No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 134: Alison Lee and Bronte Law

Episode Date: April 16, 2018

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I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah. That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! Welcome back to the No-Ling of Podcasts. We have Allison Lee and Bronti Law with us here at the Kia Classic. You guys, how long have you guys been friends? Mmm, probably almost like five years now, around five years years because we met shortly like right before

We went into UCLA we played against We went to college Probably six years now almost six years. And where are you from Bronte? England where in England Manchester? Okay, so I'm like big into soccer And then do you guys knew each other before you guys were roommates at UCLA correct? Yes, we lived together our senior year our last year at school. Okay, I'm fascinated here.

You got a story out ready for us? Yes, come on, come on. No. Yes, you're getting ready. Let's just say, I'm surprised we haven't killed each other yet, but. And why is that? We, I mean, we both have a strong strong Kind of dominant personality so we'd always butt heads

So obviously when you live with someone with the same exact personality, we would always fight all the time But we don't even fight we just talk to each other. I know we're fighting like pull thing with Yeah, like if there's someone next like a merry couple It like yeah, literally someone's next to us listening to our conversation. They'll be like geez Like I'm like gosh, they're okay, I'm like, we're fine. Just, you get along. So we talk every day. Yeah. So I was always curious, you went to UCLA, you started playing professionally. How do you balance a like class schedule with playing professional golf? I mean, it was definitely really tough,

but it was something I wanted to do. Like, I turned pro, like December of 2014, so like right in the middle of sophomore year, like a week before finals. And I remember being so happy, but so sad at the same time. And I knew right then and there that I just wanted to keep playing and continue to be in school as well.

And so it was really hard, you know, I people don't really believe it, but I do tell them like you have no idea how much I cried. Like I cried all the time because I was so stressed out and gained a lot of weight. I got so fat. But it was from sprinkles more than a year. Yeah, that's probably just from alcohol and eating. That's true. And two way up cakes. So, you know, obviously what kept me going was having a lot of great friends, having support and having that balance.

Like, I liked having a life and something to go back to at home when I wasn't on the road. And I joined a sorority my junior year at UCLA. Don't go to also Cuba. And I made a lot of great friends. But you know, that literally knew nothing about golf and now they all follow us. And I think it's just really cool to see. It's really funny actually when I joined the sorority when I was going through rush, I went through rush like a normal student and I didn't tell any of them I played golf and it's funny because the day after you join a sorority like you get like a hundred Facebook friend request from everyone in the house and so people started to get to know who I was and like over a couple weeks you

know when I'd grow the house and stuff like that, meet more girls. One by one, a girl would be like, my dad knows who you are. And I was like, cool. And we had like a dad's day, like football, tailgate, or something. And there were a couple like dads that were like, a couple of the girls like, my dad wants a picture with you. And I was like, okay, it was really funny. But like I said, I mean, going back to, you know, things like that really helped me going, you know, things like that really helped me going You know continuing to schedule everything and yeah, it was hard You know, Bronti did that like the last half of her year I don't know she did it for like two and a half years because six months was enough for me. Yeah Was it a main motivation for you to get a college degree? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think yeah

The fact that we started our journey. it was like we've got to finish this You know and got a degree in the end and once you've got it You've got it and no one can like take that away from you. So, you know, I think that's that's huge And the fact that we did it together and walked graduation together I think that was the main thing you know, we want to graduate on time like with our friends Walk graduation with all the other student athletes are year that we've knew since freshman year, so that was the main goal.

So what motivated you guys to turn professional when you did? I mean, it's kind of unique to women's golf, careers tend to trend younger. Is that a reason kind of like you're looking like this is probably some of the prime years of my life I'm ready to play professionally? Yes, I feel like it's a timing thing and I feel like it's the same for a lot of other sports.

Like baseball or football, even basketball. I mean any sport out there because when you feel like you're playing well and time is right and you feel like your game is ready for the next level, then you just need to go forward and see. And that's what I did. Like how to really good freshman year at UCLA. And I just wanted to, you know, see what my game was like compared to the other pro. So that's why I played QSchool as an amateur. And I feel like, like I said, a lot of other sports like that are like that.

You need to take the opportunity when you can. So looking, you were a six time first team of all America with the AJGA. Yes, that was the AJGA. Six time. Yeah. Yeah, I started young. Yeah, I started young. Yeah, I started playing AJG right when I was 12.

I actually tried to play when I was 11 to try and play with older girls, but they were strictly like, no, you can't have to be 12. So it would be so good. How old were you when you started playing golf? Around six. Yeah, I was six years old. It was, yeah.

Brontan, I'm always curious. I'm always curious to hear Europeans first impression of the United States So what was the first time you came and played golf in the US and what surprised you? What's something that surprised you? Well the first time I came and played golf in the US was probably junior's Rider Cup. Oh really? Yeah, I think so. Where was that? Oh, yeah? No, I'm trying it made it was a US amateur actually in cleanland, Ohio Which I mean, I'm not really gonna get a great life to America. That's actually a kind of a great view of America It's probably pretty similar to Manchester, right? Like you know all the cool places, right?

But normal America, you know, I didn't get to see that much of it. It was a short trip. I was in and out, pretty fast. I was like, oh my dad. But I knew as soon as I came, I was like, yeah, I like, you know, like the, well, first of all, the fast food is like a big thing, you know, America. It's everyone. Everywhere. Sort of defines us as a culture. So that was the first thing I probably thought about. But then, you know, one of the other things, I think it's just the people out here, like I really like,

you know, how optimistic Americans are in general, you know, in England everybody just moans about how bad the weather is all the time. Especially in Manchester. Yeah, it's especially in Manchester. She also did say something the other day that I was very offended about. She was like, I forgot what company it was, but there was a L'Oreal or something, a hair product. We were watching a commercial, or TV, and a commercial came on about L'Oreal. And then she was talking about like,

oh, that's a French or European company. And I was like, oh, really? I thought it was American. She's like, you American think, you made everything. Blah blah blah. And I was like, whoa, was like whoa I got down so how do you get to UCLA so well I knew I wanted to come to college from a very young age you know I spoke about from like age 8 nearly like I'm gonna go to America I'm gonna be like Tiger Woods I'm gonna go to college like you know I'm gonna to go to college, like, you know, I'm going to do all that. And then, you know, I looked into going to Stanford and, you know, then as I, the time

came, you know, closer to deciding, UCLA reached out. And as soon as I visited, I was like, I'm going to go here, you know, LA, like, yep, this is going to be great for me. Like, the lifestyle here, you know? LA, like, yep, this is gonna be great for me. Like, the lifestyle here, you know, the sunshine. I almost feel like I'm in a foreign country when I'm out here in San Diego, in LA, and from the States. It's amazing.

Did you find it hard to assimilate to American, normal everyday life, and that was pretty easy? No, no, not really at all. Do you have a story behind that or something else? No, no. I just made the most of my opportunity at college, whether it was playing golf, potting, or whatever. We want to go for that second bullet, I think, more so than the first bullet. Yeah, the golf ball is just golf. I know.

I feel like, you know, that was the main reason why I wanted to stay in school too, because, you know, obviously golf was my passion, golf was my career, but, you know, I wanted to have fun, I wanted to be in college, I wanted to live through this time of my life, you know, you hear everyone say college where that was the best four years of my life, and I wanted to like fully grasp that and live through that and I feel like I got to do that. I think we definitely did. So how did that work from an academic perspective?

I mean, it was like I said, it was definitely difficult and for me it was great because I was a communications major and there were a lot of girls in my sorority that were communications majors. So all my classes I had a friend or someone in there who can like send me notes if I was gone or were professors pretty flexible or some. It depended like really as a whole though. Yeah as a whole I mean they for the most part you know if you're a student if you're a student athlete you get a form, giving you excused absences.

So they can't fail you for something you miss because of an event. But for us, obviously, it's our own time. So if I was like, I'm going to be gone the next two, three weeks, they'd be like, what? And I'd be like, but you know, I'm traveling. I'm traveling to go to like, also like, I'm not giving you help.

Yeah. I actually won a professor. He wanted me to take, so he allowed me to take my midterm on the road. But I had to go and take it through this online program called ProctorU. And I had to take it on the same day, same time as a class. And this was during British Open

So I was like we were in Scotland and I had I remember taking it like three or four a.m. in the morning Yeah, I remember taking it like super early in the morning and freaking out because The Wi-Fi at the hotel was shit and like it wasn't working and I was like almost crying because we only had a certain window Is this on a tournament day, too? Yeah, this was like Friday night And I was just like you know, it's three in the morning and I'm just like super emotional and stressed out and Eventually I was able to take it was Yeah, well I was I remember I remember I remember buying

It was Trump turn man. You came I remember buying her coffee just so she can warm her hands around it she didn't want to drink it oh California girl didn't like the west coast of Scotland I was in tears yeah had you played out there before no first time it was my first week there like I've played it and she goes back after that oh I was literally crying on the course it was was not a great way. You cried on the course? Yeah, just because the weather how you played or everything was when it was it was windy like it was raining like pissing sideways Like, you know, I mean standard British phrase. She is learning it pissing Okay, it was more like shitting sideways It pissing side way. That was good. Oh, OK. I'm proud of you, right?

It was more like shitting sideways, but I mean, it was, I don't like it. It was bad, yeah. It was so bad, yeah. And now the president is probably going to tweet at you because you criticized the band. Yeah, let me go get a band from my golf course. Yeah. Yeah. So what is your first memory you have of Allison?

Oh, well, I mean my first good one. I'm going to go. Wow. Okay. Oh. Big distinction. Okay, so I'm trying to think like it's probably junior writer cup. Yeah, it was.

We didn't really talk that week though. No, we didn't. All I know is you is, I remember us meeting and she seemed like this very put together, like British girl. Can you do a British accent? You're getting closer. No, I'm telling you right now.

I'm not bad, but yeah, I'm like, she's like, I'm going to UCLA. I was like, yeah, I know, like, and we talked for a little bit, but it was just like very on the surface. Wait, you saw that? It was just this really nice girl. Yeah, because you're kind of quiet and like, it's amazing. I don't know. Do you that was just this really nice go? Yeah, because you're

kind of quiet and like, you know, I don't know. Do you still think she's a nice girl? No, not really. She's more of a bitch. I'm like more of a bitchy British girl. What's like the most you guys have ever gone at each other with the biggest fight quote unquote fight you've had? Probably like blacked out so we don't remember. I was gonna say I definitely don't remember that. We'd wake up in the morning and we'd be like morning you know. Yeah. I'm probably neither of us would remember that. Yeah that's the thing we can probably have like the biggest fight ever like the night

before and then we'll wake up and it's like oh yeah. We're gonna get breakfast. Yeah. Yeah. Literally. Yeah. I mean this been countless times what I mean I don't even remember half the stuff that happened to me go out. Yeah, was there tension like junior Ryder Cup or Curtis Cup?

No definitely not. Was there tension between the teams? Oh, yeah, 100%. There was a little bit. Really? I don't know. Well obviously you know any team stuff. But at the end of the day, I Well obviously you know any team stuff. But at the end of the day, I would say there was less tension during Curtis Cup because that's when both teams kind of knew each other more. And a lot of us were college students.

So a lot of us had played records. You mean how I like came on your bus when you on and stuff? Oh yeah, like when we won Curtis Cup, Bronty came on to our bus and like rode back with us. And we were playing loud music. We were all having a good time I made a executive decision at that point. Those can have more fun. I mean because we're more fun. So

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customs. Get the raw finish. I promise you will not regret it. Let's get back to Allison Lee and Bronti Law. So as much as you guys have talked about, partying parting was a lot of your reasoning to want to stay in school so you could finish four years of partying. Yeah. I mean, oh my gosh.

You can say yes. Oh, last kid. I would have stayed at 5. I was spending it last year. Yeah. Fun years was life. We had three bookcases up to the ceiling. So we moved into our apartment and our landlord

left like three bookshelves. Like up Like eight feet probably like high and there was about four or five rows and they were probably about full-feet wide and we filled all of them with empty vodka bottles. That's so college. God I've never felt so old in my life. Can we can we talk about like you guys you guys have money. Let's call it students. That's true.

Yeah, that's true. Oh my gosh. That's the only one. Oh, the dangerous. So, my, so I turned pro middle of sophomore year, right? I was still living in the dorms. So, we lived together that year too, in singles. So, we had a single room, which that was in the same state.

And so, I remember, like, after getting my card, I went back to UCLA, like, went to my dorm, was like living in my dorm for, like, the next four or five months. And the following year... That was an interesting night. Yeah, and the school when you came back. Oh, yeah. Oh, okay, let's... We can talk about that, the other time.

But Mark that one But actually my junior year so I decided to live with four girls including me So it's five of us and like I was traveling a lot so I was like hey, I'm not gonna be there very often so I could just room with someone So the rent's a little bit cheaper and you guys I'll leave it all up to you to look for an apartment and I come back and like we found an apartment, I was like, great, well, what is it? A freaking two bedroom, one bath with five girls. And this bedroom was like the size of this room.

It's like half the size of this room. And there was three girls. And three of us, it could be. The beds were just all in a row and you couldn't move in a room. And I was on a candle bed. It was like living in the dorms again. I was on a candle bed. And one of our roommates the dorms and yet. I was on a trend bed.

And one of the roommates, one of the girls, she decides to turn lesbian over summer and her girlfriend was over all the time. So it was six girls in a two bedroom with one bath. Are you starting thinking like, all right. I could do something different. It's so funny because all year, people would give me shit. Like, you're making money. Like, why are you living in a shit hole? And I was like, I don't something different. It's so funny because all year people would give me shit like You're making money like why are you living in a shit hole and I was like I don't fucking know

Yeah, but then we lived up the next year and then the next year was yes next year we had like valet It was zero to a hundred like yeah, no, I literally I could not walk around the apartment unless I had socks and shoes on That's how girls it was oh my god So what's let's go take us back to the night she got her card do you even remember that night yeah you do so I base Monday how are you back to yeah or no the dorms the dorms yeah the dorms so we lived in a dorm called Reaver this wasn't that long Reaver it's really freaking high up the hill You know UCLA campus is like super hilly

So reaver is probably the top of the top of the hill and we decided to live there. Yeah, and so like Monday Sunday at my card Monday. We had a rookie orientation or whatever and then I flew back Monday night We went out Tuesday and there was like a USC UCLA athlete party or whatever and We were planning on going out, but like I had just arrived and I landed late. I didn't We had dinner. It was a Monday night. I Storm remember this and then yeah, I was dehydrated. I didn't have any dinner. I show up to the dorm They're like congrats. Oh boy. I was like, I'm going to bed. They're like, no, you're going out and I was like I am dehydrated and I have no food in my stomach like I am gonna die. So like yeah

And so I drink and I like I don't remember what happened after that. I remember throwing up out the bus I had to yeah, I mean then you kind of fell into a bush when you go out the bus And I take you up and like kind of help you I mean both I will go up with my Pajamas on like my dress was on She pukes in her hair So I then have to shower her when I get back because I can't just leave you a puking in your hair. Professional, actually.

So I shower her. And she's just not helping at all. She's just sat in the shower. I'm like, this is not okay right now. So anyway, I wash her hair and everything and put up a jar, I'm gonna put her in bed. So yeah, of course she wakes up in the like small and she's like I feel great I feel great like my

dress hung I slept on your floor because I thought you were gonna die to make sure you are breathing so yeah that was quite an interesting yeah so Allison I can tell that you you sent it last year just Just looking at your results, your rookie year versus... Oh yeah. It's like a good guy. You gotta really get your rookie year. The performance drinking-wise though is just,

it's peak right. Stroke's game, stroke's game, drinking went through the roof. At least four or five strokes came. So does this still happen on the road? You guys are not no longer at school? No, we're not drinking anymore. I mean, it was the party scene. I mean, but it was Bronti's birthday a couple of weeks,

or last weekend, and it was my birthday the week before. And then I was I didn't play Singapore. So I was off that week. And then the week before Arizona, we were off. So we had like two weeks off, which was nice. And Bronti came to LA. We spent like, I did like my birthday week in LA. And then we did like a birthday week in Scottsdale.

And that's whole maze failure. It was very time. Scottsdale. Yeah. It was very time weekend. Not much. Yeah. Bronti only blocked out like for three days.

It's fine. Where do you play at in Scottsdale? Gainy Ranch. OK. And how often do you get back in Scottsdale? Gainy Ranch. Okay. Yeah. And how often do you get back to Manchester? Never. Never? No, home is Scottsdale now.

Okay. Yeah. And your family comes and visits you. Yeah, my mom. Her mom was blocked out for five days in a row. So she's got, she's great. Her family is just, I'm on full great future. Have you guys ever been hung over for a tournament round? I

are oh we know only once. Okay and I shot three under. There you go. I shot four in the oh yeah Saturday. No Sunday. Yeah this Sunday. It was a Patrick's day. what was the word? I couldn't resist. I mean, I went out for a casual drink and it was just supposed to be casual drinking. A bit of a drink, as they said. And I woke up, well, I got home at 2 a.m. Yeah.

Is that on your head? What time was your two-temp? Still there on your neck? I don't know, it took me a while. No, you don't know that. OK. So it was a rough night, yeah. And I wake up in the morning and I fat my first three shots on the rain. Did you really?

Oh, on the rain. I'm thinking, um, today's gonna be interesting. But anyway, it worked out really well. I guess it calmed my nerves or something. What time was your tea time? 10-30. Oh, that's not too bad. No, like three or four hours late.

That's fine. That's all you need. I'm really hesitant to get into golf questions. I think there's way more interesting stuff. So where did you guys... A UCLA, what was your home course for UCLA? We had a lot. Yeah, we had a couple.

I mean, one of them will show when they have that event now, the LA Open, which is really cool that we get to go out there and play. And then Bella, Friday's, that was always interesting. I have to go out and have Thursday night. Um, frat Thursday. Yeah. What was frat Thursday's? Like all the frat. Have something on Thursday. Yeah. So it was like student night. So we'd always go out and have this. And then Brat, you never took her makeup off before bed and coach would be like in the morning, oh, where were you last night?

Yeah, she knew every time. Seven a.m. we had to meet. Friday. So that was seven a.m. you're going to plan like a top 100. We don't want to be here. That experience paid off when you were actually hung over for a while. Yeah, exactly. You had experience of that conversation. Yeah, I trained myself.

I've trained myself in more than one area. So that I can perform under pressure and also, yeah. Was there much of a transition for you guys from amateur golf to professional golf? I mean, was your routine changed and everything? Did you find that challenging in any way? I think so. I mean, like playing amateur golf and college golf,

we played maybe 10 events a year and then coming on to where we played over 20. So, you know, it was just tough, like all of a sudden, literally playing every week and like making sure you're ready to go every single week. And sometimes, you know, you weren't always as ready as others, but you had to be and so mentally and physically it was just a big kind of like here you go like you're a pro now

you need to be ready to play golf and I think as well it's the fact that you have to take yourself accountable you know it it's all you know you don't have a coach telling you like be here at that time like you need to figure out, you know, yourself what time to be there and you know How much work you need to put in instead of someone telling you how much work to put in so it's I think it's just a different Whole kind of learning experience. I definitely think last year for me You know, I learned a lot In terms of figuring out what was best for me as opposed to seeing a lot of the people are doing because everyone does their own

thing and you know there's not one you know like route to success it's like everyone does different things for them and I think for me that was probably the biggest challenge was figuring out exactly what you know I should do. I feel like a lot of ladies out here play 30, 32, 33 weeks a year. Is that something that you guys plan on doing? Or is that just too much? I want to play as much as possible. I really enjoy competing. That's really why I play golf.

I was always very competitive as a child, even now. Everything is a competition, but so for me, I just love that. So I want to play as long as I'm healthy as much as I can, yeah, for sure. Yeah, I think so. Definitely it gets hard sometimes. You need to make sure you're aware of your body and you're aware of what your game is like. of, you know, what your game is like. And, you know, if you want to go home, if you want to keep playing. And so for me, I've found that, you know, you find, I've kind of found a routine. Like, I know my rookie year, I tried to play as much golf as I could, and it was a lot. But now it's like, okay, I want to be able to be home for at least, you know, this amount

of time because I'll play. You're kind of set up in blocks, right? Exactly. So I'll play three or four events and then I want to go home. Potty. No. Keep coming back to that. So yeah, so you know, and I, like I said, I really kind of cherished and you know, it, like, would want to go back home and see my friends and family because that's really important to me So you know, I try and you know play as many terms as I can But also kind of try and make sure I find that time for myself and like to go back home. Where's home for you now?

Vegas, okay. Yeah What do you laugh would you say that? I don't know. I just I mean if I for a party life, so no I just well, I'm every same an LA girl, and I always will be, and I find myself going back to LA. Like, I'm in Vegas, but I'm honestly never there, because I go back to LA all the time, but I'm trying really hard to base myself more in Vegas.

And it's kind of weird to say this, but like, being in Vegas is actually less distracting than being in a like, because all my friends are in LA and- You can get worked on in there. Exactly, and a lot of my friends like don't play golf, they just work. So every weekend they're like, let's go out and I'm like, okay, I can't resist. I get wrote in. You probably get that a lot to people are like, oh Vegas, that must be insane,

but you probably have like a kind of a siloed life right there. Well, I think if we live that together, it would be a disaster. No, we cannot live together ever again. Do you guys room together on the road at all, or does anybody? Oh, yes. Definitely. Yeah, all the time. Yeah, pretty much.

We're not this week, but we've already roomed together a couple times this week. Yeah. But like I said, not too much, because we will kill our each other. Practice rounds together Yeah, we always freaking she wanted to play at 7 a.m. This morning and you wanted to party Really? No What's it Monday?

Come on What I mean you the LPGA tour is a worldwide tour. What are your favorite places to go and for what reasons? It's a good one. I really like the tropical destinations we have. Like, why in the Bahamas are always fun. Although the Bahamas wasn't, wasn't all that tropical this year, right? Yeah, it was just like 60 miles.

A lot of wind. Windy. But you know, obviously like being on the beach, it's nice. I love this West Coast swing just because it's so close to home and a lot of our friends and family are here so they could come out to watch and I could see them which is nice. Yeah we have a really good schedule to shift. I like the West Coast which is really fun. So for me I would say this part this time of the year is always my favorite. Do you guys treat this part of the season any differently with major season about the start? Do you try to get your game peaking at the right time or is it kind of just trying to get it to peak period?

I don't know. I just feel like golf in general is just a mental game. So, you know, whether you're playing a major, whether you're playing a smaller event, or whether you're playing a practice round, I feel like you kind of have to treat it all the same and kind of go into every, all of them with the same mindset. And so, I don't really have like a particular schedule or a way that I train that, you know, gets me to peak. I know some players do every all of them with the same mindset. And so I don't really have like a particular schedule or a way that I train that gets me to peak. I know some players do do that, but yeah, I just try and treat every tournament

as if it were the same. New Brunty. Yeah, me too. Yeah. I think obviously the stretch like you do have to maybe think more think more about like resting a little you know not pushing yourself too much with obviously it but we prefer a major but I wouldn't say that I treat it really any different other than

I'm just conscious of the fact that I don't want to burn out so you know I'm not practicing for eight hours a day or anything you know just doing what I need to do to prepare like for the week basically yeah because a lot of people have said, you know, like, this is a marathon, like playing, oh, pretty much almost all your rounds and playing that many events for the whole year, you know, you kind of have to pace yourself. You don't want to just be grinding all, you know, for the beginning of the season and then just kind of at the end of the season, just being way too tired. Just get the heart injured. Yeah.

What, like, as far as the LPG schedule, do you ever get frustrated playing in the states because it's such a different game than what you grew up playing in England? Not really actually. I think coming over to college was partly, you know partly one of the reasons I did it was to learn how to play like American style golf courses. Kind of target, yeah. My goal was to be on the LPGA and the LPGA is based out here, so I needed to figure out how to play American style.

And honestly, college was the best way for me to prepare myself for that. And I owe a lot to the coach that you see a life for giving me that opportunity and letting me go there. Because I really did start to perform a lot better when I came to the States. And also when I went home, you know, even better as well. So, you know, I definitely prefer playing golf out here for sure. I read that you won the English ladies amateur by 16 shots. Yeah. It was a good event. 16 shots.

Yeah. I got the course record and they actually gave me an honorary membership at the course. Of course. at Hunstanton It's in like Norfolk. So I've never been back because it's about five-hour drive from where I live So but you know You need it. So how many shots were you up after you drowned? I'm not sure actually honestly after I shot the A under there was no looking back like I was just keep going. I get to the bag though.

It's competing against yourself. Yeah, further and further. I actually each day would say, okay, you need to shoot, you know, this many under, you know, just to kind of keep myself being motivated to, yeah, so. Who's, you guys have anybody out on tour that you've played with or kind of as mentored you since you've been up here, somebody that you've really learned a lot from in your time as a professional? I would say me personally Michelle I met Michelle when I was

14 I think at my very first US open and I loved her You know the fact that she graduated from Stanford I really really looked up to that and beating her and getting to know her, I'm just loved who she is. She's been so nice and she was the one mentoring me, especially my rookie year. Like when I played the Soulheim Cup 2, she was always there for me and kind of guiding me.

And so I feel like for me, she was one of my biggest cheerleaders, but also someone that I look up to, yeah. What was this online cup experience like? Well, a lot went on that week. Well, just a lot went on that week because I don't know, like that's right before school started. Like I was sick that week. I had like a weird food poisoning thing, so I was like throwing up and shitting like

before I missed the opening ceremony. And then I was like literally eating crackers and sitting in bed like the first half of the week. And then I was just so nervous. And I was the only new one. You know, pretty much the whole team was the same from the previous Soheim Cup except me. Andrew, a rookie on tour. Yeah, so it just, I just felt kind of out of place. Like I was already really nervous. Like I was sick. That can't help with the shit thing being that.

And, and I don't know. And that's why for me, like Michelle was really there for me. And she really helped me out a lot that week. And yeah, obviously, you know, playing and then the whole thing happened with Suzanne. Don't rush past that because it's been, we're a few years removed from it. So people may forget about it and walk us through,

remind us what happened. Well, it's okay to talk about now, right? Yeah, I guess. Yeah, so I mean, so basically what we were on 17 and it was best ball. So Brittany hit her drive in the water. So I was like, great. Anyways, she almost lied to you, she was like, we were playing really well and then, I had a good drive, a good second shot.

And then Susanne and Charlie both had a birdie putt just outside me, so they both missed and then I was the last one to putt. And I believe we were, I want to say like all square, I think we were all square and I had to make this to go on up and go into the last hole. And then I still remember it was like a right to left putt, and I think, I don't remember, but I know I missed it. Really? You know obviously we're in Germany everyone's cheering they're like yeah like you know like good thing you missed it or whatever and then I thought I heard like you know obviously I'm really upset and I thought I heard that's good and I kind of heard you know people walking away so I didn't even think twice so when I picked it up and Suzanne was like I didn't say

that's good so for me it wasn't even like oh shit I picked it up it was just like what are you talking about like I heard you say that's good and she's like no and I was like okay what do I do yeah I was like well I'm sorry like I thought you said that's good and then then I looked, we looked at our rules official. And he was like, well, she didn't can see the puts. It's a monster penalty. And then obviously I was just like, okay, like I just, I was just so in shock.

And then we were just like, okay, let's go the next hole. And then we lost whatever, like I was really mad after the round. Like I just cried. I think I was more sad than mad. Yeah, you had a really ugly picture. But what? Yeah, great picture, but But actually I have that one so okay, okay good for you. You're just sitting back in the alley a lot of great pictures of you too So just make sure you know that But anyways, so I actually feel bad because the media bash Suzanne for what she did,

but I'm more upset at our rules official. So I look back at the rules. So basically if there's a misunderstanding for a conceded put, then you replay it without penalty. And he told me that it's a one-stroke penalty. Interesting. And so like looking back at you and I'm like I'm so upset at our rules official I'm not gonna say his name he's still out here but like I'm sure but that's the thing a lot of people don't know it's like they don't know that like it should have been a different ruling and it could have been a different outcome which she have made you put it or was it just that she hadn't she hadn't gotten to giving it to you she said I didn't give you that put. And so I think if based on the rules, I would have just re-put- like placed it where it was. And your mind was at a foregone conclusion

that it was a gimmick? I mean, I thought she said that's good and it was very close. I mean, it was like a tap-in, but obviously, you know, when you're under pressure like that, I guess, But obviously, you know, when you're under pressure like that, I guess whatever, but yeah, it's I understand why but when I initially asked about it You kind of like roll your eyes about the soul. I'm gonna you guys want this all. I'm like it's exciting It was an awesome, but like I said, it's a weird way for me because it was like I was Yeah, and I was like I was crying and I was in a foreign country. And how old were you? I was 20.

I was 20. So going back to the 20-20, or the 2009 US women's open. Oh yeah, yeah. So you're 14. I was 14. So we're talking to Daniel, okay, earlier, she was 14, she was playing planted her first, and she said she didn't even really grasp

that it was the US ones. I, oh my gosh, I still remember every moment of it. You had a different experience. Yeah, so I was like, so, when I was 14, I still like braces like 100 pounds. My dad was carrying. Yeah, I was like in the, yeah, I had an in-brand ass thanks for the reminder. I brought to you just to roast

here. I'm sorry, I don't have a butt. It's actually funny story. My mom, I was putting, I was practicing on putting right now, my mom said she was kind of watching from outside the ropes. And there were a couple girls that were, you know, they're with girls golf, they were kind of there waiting for signatures and stuff. And a couple of that were, you know, there with girls golf, they were kind of there waiting for signatures and stuff And a couple of them were probably older than me And so I was putting whatever and my mom Comes up to me later and she says that oh she was just laughing and I was like, what's so funny? And she goes, you know, this girls that were sending next to me. I was like, yeah

Apparently they were like looking at me. They're like, who's that girl? Like she's so young like what is she doing here? Oh, she's probably just like a member that doesn't know what's going on and just practicing on the putting green. And then like after that. So and then I walked up to my mom and I was like, okay like mom, let's go to number one. And then the girls are just like like in shock because first of all they were saying all the shit in front of my mom. So she they knew she heard everything they were saying and second like I'm not a stupid member who's just like putting around but I was just a little kid and I remember Annie played that year too and I remember being in the locker room and

like Lorraine passed by and me and Annie like like watched her walk by like this and out we were both like giggling when she walked past and she like looked back like, haha like yeah, I'm like Lauren O'Chill. Yeah, so that was really cool. And you finished tie for 26? Yeah, that was a really fun week. Yeah, that was really cool. Great course too, sorry.

Yeah, great course. And I remember hitting like driver 3 wood every hole because I didn't hit it anywhere. I don't know how I played that well Yeah, yeah, and no ass apparently put your inverted ass into it Yeah, no no power in my glutes so I want to do some best and worst that you guys have seen from each other so like what's what's the I was thinking golf related, but now you literally just spit your water out. What's the worst shot you've ever seen, Brunty? Worst shot?

She's so good. I don't know if I've ever seen any worst shots. I can't think of any. I really can't think of any. What about the best shot? Best shot. I mean, every shot is a great shot. Best shot. I mean, every shot's a great shot.

She's a great ball striker. Look at how great of a friend I am. I know, come on. Let's keep, I'm trying to give you a, I feel like the positivity is a reward for her. I know exactly the best shot I've seen her hit. I'm trying to give you a chance to roast the best shot. Best shot was last year when I went and watched you

at the A&A and you hit that three wood on the 18th hole to two feet. I tapped it for the eagle. And you made that putt. Yeah, that shot gave me some extra dollars. That was a nice shot. Do you guys have a favorite story about each other? You have something,

because you just, whatever you just did with that one. I have one. But I do want to share this one. It's not bad though. It's a bad So Bronte this is our girlfriend here. Bronte still had doesn't have her driver's license in the US She is not driven on the left or the right side of the road from the from you know from Harmockar So it's much harder your driver's license in the UK though, right? Oh, yeah in America You could do the test your eyes closed close and pass. Yeah, and so

so we carpooled a lot and I remember she was my show for basically. Yeah, I remember she wanted what you needed to know. Yeah, so she needed a practice driving or whatever and she hadn't done any yet and we were trying to figure out a day to do it. But anyways, we had finished practice, we were driving back to campus. I think there was a basketball game or something, so it was very packed. I mean, especially during rush hour or during a basketball game, it'll take like an hour to go five miles. Sometimes after practice on Tuesday afternoon, it would take forever. But I remember we were driving back to campus, we were driving through campus and we were like not moving at all.

And I had to pee so bad. I just had to pee so bad and I don't know what was going on. At that time, my life, I peed every hour. But I just had to pee so bad and I knew we weren't going to be able to park, get to the parking lot and park my car for at least another 30, 40 minutes. And we're in campus and I was like, oh fuck it. I was like, brought tea. Get in the driver's seat. I'm gonna run out there and be in a bush. And I'll be back. This is a terrible idea. She's like, before I can say anything. She's like, the door's open and she's running in a bush and I'm sat in the seat and I'm going, oh my god.

Yeah, I literally just love the drop and sprinted into the bus. But then of course the traffic starts moving. Yeah, and I'm peeing there in the bus, I'm like looking like, and I see Bronti, like, I've been around the bus. There's like, yes, she gets and then there's like all this room in front of the car, because the car is the traffic was moving and I could see her in the driver's seat like like this like figuring out like what to do and I'm just like just freaking drive and like call the car start honking at her because she like literally could not figure it out

I was like what is this peak peak peak peak yeah, she's like like on the left side like I don't know and then finally She drives up and it was probably like probably 20 or 30 yards Yeah, and then I finally like run about yeah your first experience driving Girl driving manual entirely yeah, so you didn't know it literally don't know how to drive automatic Yeah, it was bad. Yeah, and do you And do you have a favorite one of Allison? Actually, Allison wasn't even there for this funny moment. But she was very much involved. So it was actually St. Patrick's Day last year.

And she wasn't in town. And so, Aura's the two roommates were Katie and Mari. Katie and Mari were like, we were all going to go out for St. Patrick's Day. So it's the weekend before spring break. So they were both about to go to Carboh for spring break. Oh, so this was Arizona. I was in Arizona. Yeah. And so, one of the girls, she was getting a new driver's license. I remember. She was getting a new driver's license. and so she had to take a passport out there because she didn't have it. So we are like having a pretty good time we

end up going to this club in Santa Monica and we have like you know one of the guys on the football team gets a table so we have bottle service and I'm pouring the drink so I'm partly to blame for all of this. But anyway, I'm pouring quite heavily on the vodka and the vodka cranberry and um, K-E-T, one of the girls just all of a sudden hits the deck and is like, I need to leave, I need to leave, walks outside so I rush off out to find her leaving Maureen inside. outside so I rush off out to find her leaving Mauri inside. Katie is sat on the step on the road just puking everywhere and I'm like you cannot sit on the side of the road in LA like you know you are sure I'm gonna get hit by a car anyway it was probably 2.30 a.m. at that point and I wanted to go back in to get

Mauri because I had no idea what sort of, you know, state she was in at that point. Yeah, and there's no service in this bar. No. So, I couldn't call her, so I had to go back in. Anyway, of course, the bouncer wouldn't let me go back in. So, I'm like, my friend is in there, and I can't get hold of her. I don't know what to do. So, Katie is like, we have to leave. We have to leave.

I mean, she was really bad. So I make an executive decision which was clearly the wrong one at that time to leave Mari and take Katie home. And that's the second part. I'm in Arizona. This is what was the Friday night? Yes. And it's 3am.

I get a freaking, I'm getting a FaceTime call at 3am. And I was like, oh God, what is it? And then it's Marri calling me. So I answer the phone, I'm like, hello. And she's black now. Oh my gosh, she's crying. Balling, crying. She's like, brunton, left, left me.

Like she's like, and I lost my wallet. I can't find my passport. Yeah, she had a phone, but I was like crying. And crying and crying. Pass, pull, everything. And then I wake up, I'm like, find my past, yeah. She had a phone, but I was like crying and crying and crying. Pass, pull, everything. And then I wake up, I'm like, oh my gosh, because when we grow up, we never leave each other. Like no matter what, like okay, you wanna go home with a guy.

Like, okay, but that's fine, but like, we won't leave one person alone, though. And so she's crying and crying, so I'm like, I get pissed. So I call Bronti, and this is like 3 a.m. I had to play the next day. It's like 3 a.m. And I'm like, Bronti, what the fuck? Like, why did you leave Mari at the bar by yourself? And you're like, I had to say Katie home, blah blah blah blah and I was just

so mad, I was like, fuck it, whatever. So I hang up on her, she tries calling Mari, Mari's mad, so it doesn't answer the phone. And then I was like, this is in Santa Monica. So it's like a lot of sketchy people are there and like, she's by herself and she gets a guy to buy her a big man. And then she doesn't have a wallet. She's like, I don't have my wallet and there's a McDonald's here. I'm so hungry and I'm like, well, and she couldn't even like call an Uber or something. I think something was wrong with her Uber.

I called her a newbie. Yeah. And so she was talking to me, texting me. I was making sure she was okay. She's like, I met this nice guy in McDonald's. I was like, and she was wrong. So I was like, send me texting me. I was making sure she was okay. She's like I met this nice guy at McDonald's. I was like And she was wrong. So I was like Send me a picture. So she's like sends a picture. She's like eating. She's like sitting at a table eating with this guy Like she doesn't know him and I was just like all my freaking gods. She's like this was happening all like three in the morning So Katie had and you and Mari all had this obsession with Taco Bell.

Like obsessed. So Katie is- We've all been there. Yeah. Katie is blacked out and she's like, I just need Taco Bell. I'm like, okay, how old are you Taco Bell? So I'm ordering Taco Bell and Postmates and it's coming out to be $20. I'm like really like-

It's fucking sorry. I'm like whatever, so I order it. And then I get home. And Katie's like, when is my taco bell arriving? I'm like, it says it's gonna be here in like 10 minutes. Anyway, there's a knock at the door. And it's Mari with a taco bell in her hand. And I'm like, why do you have taco bells? She's like, well, this guy was knocking on the door

for like 10 minutes, but none of you are responding. With your Taco Bell, I'm like, well, mine isn't here. Katie had ordered Taco Bell herself, also $20 worth. So we had $40 worth of Taco Bell. It's a lot of Taco Bell. And she passed out, so it didn't even eat it. So Mari was just eating everyone's Taco Bell and after's a lot of taco. Yes. And she passed out so didn't even eat it. So Mari was just eating everyone's talking about when after eating McDonald's. Yeah.

So that's probably the most memorable because of how I was like that. The fact Allison had to play the next day and she was still dealing with it from Arizona, which is such an Allison thing, you know, like, was like the more she's always dealing with everything like all the problems and that was the epitome of it because she was like you know 300 miles away and was still dealing with it, you know, like can we party with you guys by the way? This is definitely the least amount of golf we've ever talked of this podcast but it's like I had all these questions you wanted like at Nanea oh yeah, oh yeah, you know Hawaii I wasn't asking about that. I was gonna ask about all the golf courses in LA

Twice though no I won't stamp it like oh yeah Three times a year after you won important to know that is despite all these party stories these laser very very good for the you see a record for 90 more yeah really yeah one of the girls you go broke recently a couple weeks ago so you won seven times though yes okay yeah and then I won three four four and like a year and a half. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. So, all right, well that is all the time we have.

Thank you girls for joining. This was awesome. So much fun. You guys are good storytellers. We really appreciate it. So, thanks for coming on and best of luck this week. Thank you. Kevin, don't kill me.

Sorry. Get a right club. Be the right club today. Yes. Be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. How about in? That is better than most.

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