No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 142: Curtis Luck and Edward Loar on the BMW Charity Pro-Am

Episode Date: May 22, 2018

Curtis Luck from the victorious #TeamTron and Edward Loar from #TeamSoly join the podcast to talk about their experience putting up with us at the BMW Charity Pro-Am. We hear from them on what they... The post NLU Podcast, Episode 142: Curtis Luck and Edward Loar on the BMW Charity Pro-Am appeared first on No Laying Up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah. That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most! Real microphone with Big Randy. Yeah, what's up with this? Makes me uncomfortable. Some unbelievable reporting from Big Randy in the field this week. The true journalist, the rising star in the game. But we're going to get to our interviews in a second here with Curtis Luck

from the victorious team Tron and Mr. Edward Lourr from the non-victorious team Sally through no fault of his own. But I wanted to debrief a bit on the experience in Greenville and at the BMW Charity Pro Am, and turn it over to our champion of the bet, Mr. Tron Carter. I was gonna try to be sporting about this, but these guys are kinda goading the end of, hey, you know, go to a little bit.

I ran a dirty campaign. You did run a dirty campaign. There was a lot of negative ads, negative energy. I could kind of rose above it. The cream rose. Yeah. The cream rose. The cream rose at the top. I had a terrible, terrible practice session on Wednesday.

Yeah, I'd like to say I was not putting out misinformation trying to move the line at all. It was that bad. Tron was so bad that he had thrown clubs so many times that he let one fly that hit me hard. It wasn clubs I was well he finishes swing and then let him go and just launch him and what I mean it just it's like it became like a loss to $200 to solely on it was so bad it was an occupational hazard for a lot of us that were watching we don't even have workers confidence I know I know

work that you just you know rebel dirt, I worked out, you just, you know, rubble of dirt on it to work out. But yeah, I think, and then I tweaked my neck a little bit too, so I legitimately visited. Yeah, my rhomboid was like, I think I've got some inflammation on my spinal column. So I saw the physio every day, legitimately, on the range. And due to the amazing fundraising efforts of our followers, we threw out there if we raised $15,000, you would wear range. And due to our the amazing fundraising efforts of our followers, we

threw out there if we raised $15,000, you would wear a full length Phil Michelson, Misen and Maine shirt during the competition, which I thought was going to work against you. Biggest upside of the week. 100% Tron actually pulled off this look. It looked really good. Much better than Phil. I think it pains all of us to say. Oh yeah, that didn't really look spectacular. I'm going to wear them once the temperature is cool off. I think it pains all of us to say. Oh yeah, that didn't really look spectacular. I'm gonna wear them. Once the temperature's cool off, I think if it's above 80, 85 degrees,

you get a little rough. But once the temperature cools off and the humidity comes down a little bit, that's gonna be my look. Well, we just wanna again say thank you to everyone. We actually, we set out like an internal goal of raising about $10,000. We would have thought that we would have considered

that successful. We with BMW matching all donations of 50 or greater up to $10,000. We hit that for next year 10K. I think we ended up somewhere around $34,000 raised for our two charities, which are $1,000. And the Greenville Children's Hospital. We'll be doing the raffle drawings shortly here for everyone that contributed to team tron well i think we're going to do it i said monday night i think we're going to do it Tuesday night i want to be back in jacks with you guys and so yeah thank you to everyone for donating this

this was that was really inspiring i thought that was really cool and kind of to see everyone rally around this dumb little competition we threw together and we had we had a lot of fun with it and together anything's possible Yeah, seriously that was awesome. So big Randy What you've been a greenville before is this your first time? No, and I actually have family in the area So I well, that's not true Let me back up. I do have family in the area. That is true I've been on the outskirts of Greenville before but this was my first time to downtown and you know

I had heard great things from Tron who was here last year. And I was like, really? Greenville, South Carolina? Okay. But yeah, really, really cool downtown. Just a very live, lively, mainstream. Food, restaurant, bar, very walkable, some really cool architectural features, great coffee shops, which we will get to.

Yeah, it was, lived up to exceeded expectations, very cool trip, glad I could make it. DJ, this is your first BMW charity program. What was your initial reaction to it? I loved everything about it. It was, it's cool to see three different courses. I think all of us kind of like to see and analyze and talk about and play, you know, as many courses as possible. So it's cool to see cool see a bunch of different spots. Um, and just, I mean, the, the, we've all been to a million PGA tour events and, and big, you know, kind of big scale events. And for me, like for my money, it doesn't get better than for me, for my money, it doesn't get better than the web tour and champions where things are just so much more laid back and the guys are so much more accessible and nobody's

stressed out and nobody's hassling you about credentials and all the things that I totally understand why they happen at PJ Tour events and how you have to keep things reigned in and controlled. But out here, it feels like the way I imagine the PJ Tour felt in 1980 or 1975, you know, it's just a little more chilled out and it's just you traveling roach. It is, yeah, it feels, yeah, exactly. It just feels like kind of a traveling circus or a more intimate traveling circus and you're kind of out there and it's just great. Everybody knows each other and you still obviously get to, you know, watch the golf up close.

And the players are, you know, buying large. You know, the players are just as good. It might not be quite as top heavy with superstars. But we play behind a goat with a green jacket. Yeah, well, that is actually a great point. I will never forget. Maybe the last thing memory this week is just, you know, obviously, pace of play is a little sluggish out there on every tour, but standing and watching

Mike Weir up on a tee box waiting to hit a shot, turning around, watching a guy with a fake name on his cat-bib, hit a wedge into the green. That was like, what a world. Yeah, what a world. Derek Ernst is playing behind us. He's one and one Kwell all of a few years back. Yeah, I mean, it was, it's just really, really, really cool. And the celebrity aspect is cool too. I mean, it's weird to be, you know, it's weird to be walking around and, you know, you're grabbing a plate of salad and you see David Wallace from the office.

And so I got one of the kind of bit characters from Mad Men out there today. I mean, it's like general last night, Aaron Rodger. Aaron Rodger, yeah. You know. Yeah. On, kind of a similar level star. Yeah. Aaron Rodger.

Carlton, AKA Alfonso Rivera was asking if there was gonna be an open bar during the rain delay Friday. Yeah, it's just, I loved it. Couldn't, couldn't have had more fun. That's what we were laughing was we were playing the 10th whole at Furman and we in Alfonso was playing like 13th or 14th and was on our hole And we're like watching him we're kind of jabbering with him a little bit about how far left he was Sure enough when we came through that other way. I ate it over to that

That wrong hole as well as Max home is coming up the fairway He almost sprints up like yes I cannot wait to watch this you had the calorie staff back then not the america's funny some videos back this is true this is true it was fun to just kind of have because it watched the web guys kind of have fun with all the chin-and-again beer poll in as well randy i don't know how you feel i kind of i think it was more fun to watch and just rag on tron and sali and make jokes that it actually would be to play inside the

ropes yeah i agree i think we i had mentioned to you earlier, you know, there were maybe 10 shots. I was like, oh man, I'd like to hit that shot. And the rest of time I was like, I'm kind of glad Sully and Tron are hitting those shots. I'm, you know, in the lights are brightest though. Yeah, we would have shrunk from the from from the challenge for sure. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, nothing with ability. Just like, like dude I was having a good time just strolling and reading the legs watching a little golf yeah making making some jokes with my guy DJ yeah it was great. So free beer for everybody or dollar beers for a while. Dollar beers after Magnanimous Tron made made the birdie on number nine. It got his redemption on television. I was signing something balls for kids you know I felt like I did. I had some experience. Homeowners as well.

Homeowners, I saw Nick Love for Homeowner. I had some experience from last year. I think I put that to good use. And I love to figure out what it looks like for next year. Chum it up with the producers of Golf Channel and make sure your birdie got to. Yeah, Sean John Spontech. And a little bit of Payola, go now.

So with that, I want to say thanks to everyone. The BMW Cherry Pro Am for having us out. And as long as they will have us, we'll keep coming back. This was a really fun week for everyone, for the NLU Fam and extended Fam. And thanks for donating. I know we mentioned that, but that can't be said enough that it's cool that we get to go around and do fun dumb things. And that's cool in itself.

But when we can do that and raise it kind of way more money than we thought we could. That's kind of staggering. Yeah that's great. So yeah I say it was just humbling. It's humbling to kind of be associated with that. Very cool. So for sure thank you everybody. With that we're going to turn it over. Our first interview is with Trons Partner Curtis Luck and then after that we'll be Edward Lore. Thanks everyone for tuning in and we'll check back with you next week. Hey folks, Patriotic Tron here. Let's take a minute to talk about the new stars and strives Crimson's Troubles golf ball to Caliwess just released. It features Caliwess

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So stock up for Memorial Day coming up, US Open, and then, you know, obviously July 4th. Fly the flag. Let's get back to the show. Come on, people. All right, welcoming in from Team Tron, victorious Team Tron, Mr. Curtis Luck, what do you have to say to the show. Come on, people. All right, welcoming in from Team Tron, victorious Team Tron, Mr. Curtis Luck. What do you have to say to the people?

We are the champions. I just want to thank all the supporters of Mantron. Particularly Tron, because I know he's got a lot more fans than myself, but yeah, it was a great week out there, not for Solly and Ed, unfortunately. It was not but it was awesome for me and Tron and to come away with the victory is just a great way to finish the week How would you describe the margin of victory? A lot As simple as that

You know me and Tron discussed it earlier this week we thought for a while there it might not have been you know that fair that you are Scratch this week, Sully, but So there's been a lot of talk about my handicap, which I think my handicap was fine I think it was just your handicap was two shots too low. It was way too low People would call me a sandbagger. You're not a sandbagger. I agree I agree with that I think I think Sully's handicap was the one that was out. It would just got artificially low at the wrong time. Yeah.

Like a very well aware of them. He's a reverse sandbagger. And that happens, but unfortunately you just timed, I guess, your golfing expertise wrong whilst you're at band and dunes, you know, you shouldn't have been cleaning it up over there. It was hard not to take your, the, the adamant nature of your, well, you're definitely not a scratch. It was hard not to take that part personal, but, you know, I'm recovering. the the the adamant nature of your well you're definitely not a scratch it was

hard not to take that part personal but you know I'm recovering it was I'm very well aware of this but to hear it from the outside I'm not gonna lie it stung a little bit but I'm not sure I said that I emphasized it oh did I exactly I do recall saying that I believe you like one of those people that likes just toe people there scratch golfers which is actually not true but I'm not sure about it I'm believe you're like one of those people that likes to just tow people there scratch golf us. Which is actually not true, but I'm not sure about it. I'm very comfortable as it to. I'm not a scratch. I'm very well aware of it. But we're talking about how we are going to potentially do something where I'm going to try to qualify for the US Open next year.

And when I told Ed that when I was about nine over through 11 holes in the pause that he made before trying to find out if I was serious or not was enough to let me know I've got a long ways to go. Are you sitting with a guy here in Curtis that qualified for the US Open and dropped it? I decided he didn't even want to play it. Is the US Open overrated Curtis? I can't say. I haven't played it so we'll just have to I guess and see. Hopefully this year will be the year I can figure that one out. What was, so explain your timing. So you won the USA Amateur, played in the Masters

and then turned pro right after that. Did you have, starts lined up, is that the reason why? Yeah, I just had like a really good little lineup of events with Bay Hill and then the Masters to finish off my amateur career. And then it looked like I was going to get the maximum invites I could, which was 9. Not all of them were set in stone at that stage, but it was looking positive. So we decided, or like I guess my team and I decided that it was probably more beneficial for me to turn pro and utilize them and try and actually get somewhere with them.

How old were you when you officially had a team, would you say? It's one thing in Australian golf, like amongst the organisations there, they sort of grind into you to take it as seriously as possible. And one of those things is selecting a group of people that support you and are going to look after you. And so I would say probably from the age of 15, I knew that group. Obviously, family is included in that. But like I've been with my coach from that day, I must have been 14, 15. I've been working with the same physio, strength and conditioning, all that stuff. It's all been the same guys from that point on pretty much.

So what does your give us your breakdown of your partner's game for this week? What did you see that you liked? What did you see that you didn't like? What's the full breakdown? Pretty much love everything, to be honest, you know. You just did an all-round, drive all far. That is bullshit. Walk in the cart leading between the two nines at the halfway halfway point you said to me that you think this partnership is falling apart

yeah well I'm not even sure Tron knows that you said that Curtis said a lot of things that was young yeah exactly I was immature didn't realize where I was going at that stage you know the lead had dropped after the Ed started so well on Friday but yeah yeah, no, I, the one thing I really like about Tron's game is that he doesn't really hit it out of play that often, like it's kind of in play all day, yeah, he can queefe it a little bit, but for the most part, it's pretty good. The queefe plays, you know?

Exactly, I mean, this is coming from a fade of myself off the tee, you know, like I Love where trunks going with the fade like the pool fade. I see it did Fade man, you know like did you see him hit that house? Yeah, that might I mean like I think I might have had something to do with that because I did get up to him on the Tenza. I want to see a draw and I think For sure drew well like myself I and I think like it for sure drew well like myself I really do think we're both not capable of hitting draws with drive so I can hit all of the three words I can't I'm just saying with me you know like so I think that he can put that on me so

give it so give I want to hear you kind of your breakdown what kind of what lesson would you give Tron and what lesson would you give me for our games? Tron I would place him on a chipping green between 10 and 40 yards and I'd just tell him that he needs to be more aggressive with like his stroke because quite often when he's like Got a touchy feeling shot. He actually like kind of overdoses it and Even the some of the shots, he actually like kind of overdoes it and even the some of the shots

that he hits like well, they just kind of don't have like they don't have aggression to them so they kind of come up short or they you know they don't quite carry far enough so that would be my or they roll out too much because I haven't put enough spin on it. Yeah yeah so it's kind of speed relative I think but trunks are pretty good putter. He gets around the grains like when he's actually on the grain He puts pretty well XO has been a treat to you. Yeah, yeah, really had and I didn't even put that well this week Yeah, but I can see like he's got my like I'm good

So and and as I said he kind of keeps it in place. So there's nothing like Jumping out at me. There's definitely stuff we could work on in Ony's long game, but I definitely think like he would gain a lot of strokes from 10 to 40 yards. And then you, Sully, I think we just need to see a little bit more control. Like I like your, you're the opposite with the full swing to trying, you're really aggressive,

but I think that more often than not doesn't work out for you. I think when I see you control it a little bit more off the tee, I see you in play a whole lot more. Which is the opposite advice my caddy gave me yesterday. That's true. That's true. Just send it, bro. He was backing off and he was all over the place. Yeah, then you started swinging. We don't have to get into it. Yeah. John, what advice would you give Curtis on his game? Oh, I need it every time. John Stockton, Jr.

You got it. We talked about it yesterday. You got that little, uh, you know, it comes out once around. Yeah. I got a little miss with my wrenches at the moment. It's long left and unfortunately it gets me in trouble at the moment. So I think as soon as I start getting that out, I'm totally, you're 21 years old going on 48 years old. 21 in earth years. Yeah, yeah. You know, yeah, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're

already, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're already on the years. You're, you're, you're already on the years. You're, you're already on the years. You're, you're already on the years. You're, you're already on the years. You're, you're already on the years. You're, you're already on the years.

You're already on the years. You're already on the years. You're already on the years. You're already on the years. You're already on the years. You're already on the years. You're already of the ocean. My mom legitimately didn't believe that you're 21. That's the kind of believe it. What is so this is kind of your first full you're playing the full season on the web tour this year your first full like length of time experience in the US. What's your impression been of what professional golf in the US so far playing the web.com tour? Of the web.com it's just like a I guess like a it's a crazy crazy tour in the fact that everyone's just so hungry to get somewhere which is obviously the PJ tour after playing in

bites out there everyone's super competitive obviously but there's like a different mentality on the web to get to that point so I don't know what changes between it but I guess some guys are just searching for that that better lifestyle that the PJ tour has to offer. What has been something like culturally in the United States that has surprised you? You go to some pretty interesting places. Just having a rush everyone's in. Yeah. Yeah. Like people in Australia just slow. Like they just do things slowly and take their time compared to over here. Everything's about, I think, everything's more about being fast and getting things down

quickly, which has its benefits for sure, but I definitely would say that like culture back homes are a lot more relaxed, which I kind of like. Everything except the piece of play, probably. Yes. Yeah, the pace of play, but that's everywhere worldwide. We need pace of play to go up everywhere. How many times have you been to methodical this week, your favorite coffee shop in Greenville? I would definitely have ticked over my, whatever they call it when you've been there.

I'm going to get a free coffee. You're a punch card? Yeah, my punch card. Yeah, there you go. I'm'm gonna get a free coffee. Punch card. You're punch card? Yeah, my punch card. Yeah, there you go. I'm gonna get a free coffee for sure. I reckon if I go back tomorrow morning, so I'm gonna say probably like eight times with multiple like purchases at each time.

So you were able to have a method. Yeah, the big method. Yeah, that's me the method. You are an absolute coffee fanatic, fair to say. Yes. 100%. Where does that come from and what drives that? I'm definitely not as big a fanatic as someone like Mac Goggan. Really?

I've found, well, Matt just pretty much, I'm going to say, knows everything they reason to know about coffee. If he ever decides to open a coffee shop, I'll be there every day. But yeah, I guess it's like, coffee is really big in Australia, like it's a real cultural thing, like we really get around it. It's like part of your daily ritual is to go get a coffee kind of thing, whether it's picking one up before work or going late at night, like it's just, that's just what it is. And I think once I started traveling a lot I started realizing that the coffee wasn't quite as good like where I was going

Like everywhere else and so it then became like a passion of mine to search for like the really good coffee and then from there I just started getting more and more interest in like how it all works and yeah Now I can't deal with life without it. Not a Starbucks guy, not a chain coffee guy when you go. Completely against Starbucks. We're out on Starbucks. Where does your do-do research before you go to towns? Is it what the best coffee shops are? Yeah absolutely. So I kind of when I know I'm going on like Stince where I'm gonna be playing through four events or whatever it may be, I will be before I even go to the place, I'll know where I want

to check out. It doesn't mean I know if they're like 100% good, but I'll have basically got a note in my phone of everywhere I have been and everywhere I should go check out. So like we're going to Nashville next week. I've already got I think three or four locations that I want to go try makes my life easy and then from there like I think after a few days I'll know which ones like the king and which one I'll go to for the rest of the week. It's kind of just a hobby probably more than anything right? Like it's yeah you guys have so much free time out here that it's probably good to get out and just do something it doesn't really matter what it is. Absolutely. It definitely is a good time killer, but yeah, it is a hobby for sure.

It's a great way, you know, like if you've got, I'm one of those people that just as soon as like Thursday comes around, I'm just super excited to get out and play like tournament rounds. I hate like having like an afternoon tea time because I feel like once I get up I just like I'm just waiting and it seems like time takes forever. So it's a good way for me to you know get up go get a coffee it might take 20 minutes to get there might who knows how long I'll be there for as long as I can be normally and then to the golf course and usually that's the way I kill my time in the morning and sometimes I do the flip after around so it's a nice like as you said a little hobby. Sometimes you do both. Yeah yeah I've got like a late morning tea time perfect

I can get there beforehand and afterwards. So we talked a bit about this week about what your practice routine is like. So walk us through a typical day at home in Orlando, what a typical day of practice looks like. Yeah, so fortunately I live with a really good buddy, Ryan Ruffles, who's also another young Australian professional. So most of the time when we're home we're both there which is great because it's awesome fun having someone to practice with but like on a normal day I usually

try to hit anywhere I'm gonna say any depending on the day sometimes in Orlando it's hot like summer it's hard to hit as many balls so I'll say like I can hit anywhere between 300 and 600 balls a day. How long does that take? I don't know how many golf balls it is. It sounds like a lot to me. I'm gonna say it probably I like fire balls off pretty quick So I would say like over the course of a day I might take two to three hours like in total of just hitting balls. I'm pretty quick, as I said, so I don't really muck around. And then, yeah, so do that. And then always, you know, do an hour or so on the pitching green and an hour on the putting green.

And then always, nearly nine times out of 10, try and go out and play, whether it may be nine holes or 18 holes, fortunate. We can whip around in carts in, you know, depending on the day, two hours, sometimes, you know, like even quicker. So, like, it's one thing that is so different to, like, Aussie Golf is pretty much no one plays in carts back home in Australia. So it's a nice change, it's certainly different, but it definitely helps practicing. So you just sit out there,

do you guys have a special section of the range at our worth? For, it's like you and Charles held a third. Yeah, it's like, it's a double-sided range and usually one side's like actually like been set up for all the members. So we can utilize either side, but basically we just go to whatever side's into the wind. I'm much preferring balls into the wind and the range is just at a length where drivers debatable on whether or get to the other side. So you need to know that

obviously you're not putting anyone in danger and so hitting into the winds usually just where I'll go. But we do have the freedom of kind of I guess going where we want on the range. And then you were talking about your team earlier. So you could coach us back in Australia? Yeah. How does that work? Just back in Australia. Craig Bishop. He's been awesome. Really, I'm going to say pretty much taught me everything I know relative to the golf swing.

And he's like a great golf coach. He is super technical. But that suits me perfectly, because I think about golf that way. How does it work being 8,000 miles away from him? It's definitely interesting. Like when I was like an amateur living out of Perth still, at home, like I would just sort of pop in. And you know, whether I had a lesson with him or I just went next door and he had maybe 10 minutes

bare between lessons and he'd come over and like help me out that's definitely been a change because obviously I don't have access to that anymore. It's funny though you know like he's coaching method is it's based kind of around the golfing machine which obviously a lot of people know that's a really specific style of coaching and then he also did a lot of stuff with Mako Grady. So fortunately for me, like whilst I learned a lot of my coaches' stuff, like there's a really exact equation of what he's looking for and I kind of know what that is. So when

I'm away I don't feel the need to be calling him weekly or whatever it may be. Like I'm lucky if I speak to him once every month. Do you kind of just self correct? He's taught you. Yeah. He's taught me your own course. That's exactly right. And I think that is the key to like a, that's what I think is the key to a great golf coach is to go and ship your engine. If they can coach themselves out of a job, that's the best attribute. Because, I mean, unless you're one of the top players

in the world earning so much money, you can't really afford to have your coach with you all the time. And although we've got FaceTime and all this stuff, like we can send video footage so easily now. It's still not the same. So to be able to, yeah, self-assessed and re-correct, like things that are going wrong, whilst you're out is like a really,

I think it's a really important attribute to have as a player. Do you have like a specific habit or bad habit of some kind that you're always kind of working through or something you're kind of working through at the moment? Yeah, absolutely. I always fight one thing. So we kind of have four checkpoints in my golf swing and three of the four of them usually don't really move that much.

There's one in particular that I always, always have to maintain, particularly when I'm on the road a lot. Because by like the third or fourth, on playing, you know, your mindset kind of goes from just getting the ball in the hole rather than, you know, like when you're practicing at home, you're kind of always working on things and making it look pretty. So like one of the things I do is my pelvis kind of shifts forward as I take the club back, which makes me stand upright in my swing.

And that causes a few smaller issues. Like the club starts to drop in back behind me, because the playing gets showered and then all. Yeah, there's a whole heap of things that can come from it. So yeah. So as long as I maintain that pelvis kind of staying back and my spine angle like more over the top of the ball, I tend to keep it good stead, I guess. I've never thought about spine angle or pelvis or anything in a golf suite.

Yeah, no, I'm sure that's going to help my sony a lot. There are a couple more thoughts. I don't think I'm capable of even being my own coach for hours at a time, much less days at a time. So you won the USA Amateur, you've played professional golf for a year and a half now, is that right? Two years now? And the Asia Pacific Amateur eventually, I ticked off a year, like only a month ago.

Okay. Just over a year. What is the biggest, do you see like a gap in what helped you win the US Amateur and what you need to be a successful pro and think like a specific thing that you need to grow and improve upon? It's interesting because like obviously USM's a mashpipe and so you do have breathing space in match play, you can put bad holes in and whatever. So like something I know that I've really got to work on,

which was really good that year, in particular 2016 was my driving, like I was in play all day every day. And that just counts for so much, like on these golf courses, particularly on the PGA tour, because they are brutal to be playing out of the rough and out of the trees, like you do not want to be there.

So that's one thing that I want to kind of sharpen back up and get back to maybe where I was because I mean it also opens doors to you know playing more aggressively when you're hitting it straighter you know like I could hit drive away maybe some guys were hitting three lines to lay out because I felt comfortable and yeah that, that has a big impact on how close you can hit it to the hole. So you're 21, you live in Australia, you have an Australian accent, your professional golfer, what's dating life like in Orlando? No good. So a scene is how I'm going to say.

It's like a big retirement village. Particularly in the area we live. But yeah, I think I'm going to have to invest some more time into that. It's not been great since I've been here. Did you consider going? You want to play in Europe? We're going to play in Asia. Absolutely. So in 2016, yeah, I won the WA Open, which is just a pro event on the OZPGA tour. I should say the PGA tour of Australasia. Yeah, I kind of was at a point where I was feeling ready. I felt like I needed to give it a crack to see where I was at, like on that stage. I'd had like a couple of other good finishes that year, so I was kind of thinking now it's the time to have a go.

And I had no pressure on myself to turn pro. I just decided that I was going to end to like Q-school. So I entered Japan and Europe because I'd played in Japan and I'd noticed like the tours run really well. They play for pretty good purses. You like their clothing? I like their clothing. Yeah you wear a Calibur Japan stuff that looks pretty well. It's awesome it's pretty wicked and then yeah I just I just loved Japan so I was gonna like I'll definitely give that a crack. It's kind of good playing Japan out of Australia too, because it's a similar time zone. And then Europe, I had a lot of advice from guys like Brett Rumpford and the other ones, Jason Scrovener,

like guys that I've grown up sort of watching and starting to practice with in my later ammono days, they were all in Europe and like they said how much fun it was and just that it's a great tour, you know like it really at times get thrown out of your comfort zone with all the different things like language barriers and stuff like that. So Europe was somewhere I was really interested in traveling and playing, but yeah, when USM happened, that kind of shot that down pretty quick. You were kind of thrust in, we were talking about it earlier, you were kind of thrust in,

being from Perth, where you, it's pretty remote place, you had to travel five, six hours, most of the time to... Yeah, very. So Perth, obviously, I think it is the most isolated city in the world. Yeah, it's so as juniors and amateurs when you start taking it seriously and like you want to actually play big golf events, the travel becomes pretty significant, whether it's coming to the US, to play the Amateur events here in summer, or if it's just going to Brisbane or Sydney, like it's always like a five hour flight, it's never driving. So we learn really early how to travel and how to handle that.

Like I mean, I started, I think my first interstate trip for an event like on my own, I was 15. And you literally, yeah, you just go to like your hotel and that's it, like there's other kids there and you're just like just go to like your hotel and that's it like you just there's other kids there and you're just like alright let's go and and so as I said I think we learn really quickly how to travel which I think has been a great advantage for me I think you can say in results particularly like a lot of the young Australians are from Western

Australia. You've got Minji Lee, who's on the LPGA, Hannah Green on the LPGA, Oliver Goss, obviously out of stellar amateur career, Brady White, another one, and now you've got guys like Minwool Lee, who are also breaking through in the amateur scene. So I definitely think it has a pretty big impact. What was, so you played as an amateur in the Masters in 2017? Did you stay in the Crosnest? I actually only stayed in it for one night.

I was told that it's pretty small. The coffee was no good. Yeah, the coffee was not good. No, yeah, so I was told it was pretty small beforehand and that like you weren't really that separated from the other amateurs if they were all willing to stay there. So my family was obviously there that week out to watch. They rented a house nearby. So I actually just stayed in the house and then I think it was the Tuesday or the Monday

night. When the Tuesday night, I think they have the amateur dinner I camped out in the crow's nest with the other boys or us stayed in there and it's obviously an amazing experience. Like it's something so few people have done, so that's really cool. In fewer because you took up two exceptions and so on. And then, yeah, but the thing is, it's not ideal. If you're off in the afternoon and someone in the crow's nest, one of the other amateurs is off early in the morning,

if their alarm goes off, everyone wakes up. And that's not my jam. So what are you, so we're sitting here now, this is in May. What do you have to do? What does it needs to improve the most in your game between now and the end of the season to make sure you're on the PGA tour next year? Just a bit of consistency. Where my golf is good, it's great, like it looks really good. I'm just made actually a few equipment changes in the last few weeks with Kauai and like it's looking

really positive like I think my bag set up in a way now where I feel really comfortable like I feel like there's nothing there that can be improved. So that's exciting and you know the start of this season it's kind of on and off you have like a lot of off weeks in amongst a lot of tournaments. So I think like I'm just slowly warming up, I've just come off to miss cuts, but that's a very short story. I'm actually super excited. It's probably in all seriousness, after missing two cuts, I'm probably as excited as I have been in eight months to play golf because there's so much really good stuff going on And you get the, you know you podcast bump now, I feel

Yeah, absolutely. Where does the BMW charity ProM rank in as far as web events that you've played so far? Well, it's definitely been the funnest so far hands down. You're welcome. Yeah, yeah, thanks guys. It's been the funnest so far. the courses were pretty good amongst the three of them It's definitely an interesting format to play three courses have to play them practice rounds as a staff and and when all the conditions are so different On each course. It's it's kind of interesting to get your head around but yeah, it's it's a it's a it's a good tour It's um we've definitely traveled to some interesting places so far this year like obviously going to the Bahamas But yeah, it's a good tour. We've definitely traveled to some interesting places so far this year, like obviously going to the Bahamas

and then South America, Panama, Colombia. It's all been great to see new places. You could get on the road though. Yeah, I'm drive. I'm super excited just to get into the thick of things and then really start playing golf. We'll probably follow up in like 17 weeks when you've made your way across the United States. Yeah, we'll see how you feel about the car. As far as like PGA tour or kind of guys that kind of been mentors to you, you talked about

that a little bit earlier. But really anybody else that sticks out or anybody else that you really look up to. Yeah, um, Tron. Tron, of course. Yeah, absolutely. Stand out. Obviously, the Aussies, I think are a really tight knit bunch. Like I've played practice rounds with Jays and obviously hang out with Jays a bit and then Adam Scott has been awesome Leash has been awesome even like Leash's caddy Mackelli's being great, you know that all those guys have been Really good and I think they're great with all the youngsters

particularly Australians But yeah, I was fortunate enough to have a great like caddy. Oh Jeff Ogley and other one I was fortunate enough to have like a great cad Katty, oh, and Jeff Ogleby and other one. I was fortunate enough to have like a great Katty out there last year with me in Matt Trenton, also known as Busy. He really like helped me kind of learn the ropes, I guess. And obviously had a big impact on how I was playing out on the course as well.

But yeah, there's a heap, I mean another notable fan favorite, Zach Blair. I know you guys are... I'm the friend of the program. We're in on Zach Blair, shout out to the Buck Club. Another one that was surprising and it just came up through, I guess, like a mutual friend was Ian Polter. Ampulter was really good when I first went back, basically when I won the USM I met Polter's Caddy Terry Mundy because he was cutting for one of my mates Sam Horsfield. And then later down the track I ended up playing

with Polter in Macau and Polter was great. He really looked after me, took me out to dinner, actually me and my dad out to dinner a few times. And then, yeah, so bad we just ended up traveling and played in Habitabi and Dubai at the same event. And yet again, you know, like he was great, just, you know, making sure I was alright and kind of including me on things that he didn't have to. He seems like he's almost kind of playing a role a little bit. Is that what you saw or not? I know he rubs a lot of people in the States the wrong way, but to me, it just seems like it's a bit of an act almost,

and he's just kind of a little chippy, and it's just kind of how he is. Yeah, I think the thing that gets Polter some haters is that he just says what he feels which I think is a great eye I think that's a great characteristic whether you're wrong or right that's another story but you know what like if people can't accept when someone says something that they don't like so be it I would like to think I'm kind of that way so you are probably exactly that's probably why we get along. So I am.

That's probably how we get along, you know. So yeah, but he was really like really great for me early on. So much so that the first event I played over here, Bay Hill, I wasn't feeling that great. And I had a really rough week. I actually got de-cued. You know, he just said, look mate, like if you want to come around to my house in Orlando, I had nowhere to stay. I was in a hotel. He said, like, just come around and stay a few nights and just, you know, take a breath. So I went over to

his house and the same thing. He was just like awesome. Speaking of the haters, what do you have to say about to some of your haters out there? I got no time for haters to say like, I'm going to hate. The backstory of Friend of Mine texted me, it's a good luck with Curtis luck this week. That guy's an asshole. And you're like, we're racing through your mind trying to figure out when you were an asshole at Brookside Country Club, putting a practice rod sometimes. Yeah, there's a reason I can't remember. It's because it's not important. All right, on that note, we're going to get you out of your

regrets from dinner. But thanks for putting up with us this week. And I hope you had fun. And I hope you're looking forward to the rematch. We're going to have this fall when you guys come to a web tour championship. Absolutely. Thanks for having me.

Get a roll in and then we're going to fire it up at like the Dunhill or Pubble Beach. Yes. Oh, yes. Step up. Come salute. Thanks for having me. Get a roll in and then we're gonna fire it up at like the Dunhill or Pebble Beach. Yes. Oh yes. Oh yes. Step up. Step up. Step up. So all right. Thank you Curtis. With that, let's turn it over to our interview also with the fourth member in our group, Mr. Ed Lore. All right. Welcome again now. Pardsy. My Pards, Mr. Edward Lore. How you played today without us today. How did you even was was even worth teaming it up today? It was barely tolerable. Luckily I had two members of the Olympic curling team,

Gold medals. My man's shooster. Yeah, dude, those guys were right. And you know, you don't get to play too many times with the Olympians that you look like you're a better athlete than so. You know. The second most famous shooster you played with this week, is that right?

That's correct. That's correct. So we got served some humble pie by Team Carter. I can't help but feel responsible. You made the cut and Curtis luck did not. It's really hard for me to look at myself in the mirror and not feel responsible for our team not making the cut. But you sure feel responsible.

Absolutely. I mean, 100% agree. I mean, I could have made a few more birdies, but I think in, let's see, I made, maybe 15 in three days. So I mean, yeah, I don't know if we've made the cut, but certainly the good beat by these dumbasses, but we got to do it. I was going to say, I don't think it was the fact that you all got beat. It was effective. We got drums. We got tramps. Yeah. Yeah. There was a there was a lack of drama in the situation. I think the handicaps were slightly off But I don't think that's why we lost I mean if we were ahead on normal handicaps, we still wouldn't beat I normally get five off of you

Yeah four or five and it would have made a difference I didn't I didn't bring the game, but we had fun was is that what's your normal pro? I'm experienced like was this was a little different than that. You guys are great I mean obviously what you guys, all of us appreciate it. And, you know, I always appreciate good banter. I mean, what's, what, what the hell's the six hour round if you don't have good banter? Um, so no, that's great. I, I do it every moment, even if you did play like a dog. What was your reaction when I bladed my wedge out on the very first hole of the tournament?

Honestly, I, I was like, man, most scratches can hit the green from 100 yards, especially after piping it. You know, let me pipe the 280 down the middle. I'm like, okay, well. I would have been more concerned after the second hole. After the one that was a little bit of a chili pepper out to the right. Yeah. So, you were obviously a little rattled early.

You played, you played pretty good yesterday. It stretches at the cliffs where you made some birdies. But obviously you hit the ball long way, so you need to play the par of five as well. Firm only had two of them. You were just, you were a little out of sword set first day. It's hard when you don't get any pops in your mindset. For my score to count is I have to beat you on the whole

So otherwise like I pretty much count on you to make par every time So I'm like firing for birdies and when it goes sideways it's easy to get get out of hand pretty quickly But I was I was rattled. I'm not gonna lie. It was kind of like the old adage of oh, I got a hit it You know if I don't hit it hard enough the putz not gonna go in well That's you know, that's like one of the worst series in golf It's it's hard to do it to just feel like I'm just gonna play regular golf You know obviously when you're playing alongside a tour pro, but that's how you play best. You don't play best You got to build around yeah firing it at every pin and doing stupid stuff. It's learning experience

What did you think of uncle tron's game? Tron is a solid. I take tron anywhere as a seven. I mean that is a solid I didn't send back that either. That's the gentleman, but you did a good job You did a good job, you know with most your stroke holes, so you're a good seven Tron I mean, I think yeah, I guess that we usually give him we usually play off maybe five Between the two of us and I think that was that was not Tron's best game I think if you would have brought your A game this week, you wouldn't be this by the way. I didn't I didn't

my irons all that well. I played better yesterday, but it's just Curtis said quit focusing on which holds you're getting pops on and just play golf. Yeah. And that helped me out yesterday. How did the Miz and In May affect you? It was a little constricting Thursday Friday. And honestly, if it's fall and it's crisp and you know 60s, 70s, it was the humidity that killed it just absolutely killed me. Like if you get a little sheen going in the sweat and then that stuff gets a little wet it's okay but if it gets a

lot wet it is it's a disaster. The biggest question people are dying to answer is what did you think of Big Randy's reporting? Top notch, I don't know how randies not on you know a national affiliate. I mean and the props it this prop game is incredible I mean it's just top-notch granny. I just worked with what I had just Come up with something each day for you. Try and do and jack some drama It is we were rustling around in the woods and having to find that that broken club. You were searching hard. I don't know what you guys were going to do if you found that edge. I'll probably wouldn't reach you after they played with you yesterday. So if you were all right, let's do it personally by person here. Start with Tron.

If you were to give advice on how to improve our games, what's the... You gave, first of all, I played so bad the first day. You'd demand and we go to the range in two, ten minutes. But starting with Tron, what would be your lesson for Tron? Tron needs a lot of... he needs a lot of short game work around the greens. You know, he does pretty well off the tee. He gets, he actually gets the ball a little far forward. So he kind of gets swiping and hits those, you know,

what do you call him, a queef out there. Yes. That's a scrape queef, scrape queef. But really, other now, you hit the ball pretty well, but your your short game variety is lacking. It's very lacking. Yeah, absolutely. And for me, and for me. Oh, we need some practice, Sally. If you're going to maintain your your quest to try to qualify next year, we, based on what I saw, it all starts with your setup. You aim about 30 yards right, and then you kind of hit either

a pull, either straight pull, or you had a pull hold on. And so for a scratch player, I mean, that's supposed to be an elite player. There's a lot going wrong. God, so close to me. You say he's more like a Joe Flacco. Moments of brilliance.

Spices of brilliance. My comfort zone is around a two. I went into this knowing my handicap was artificially low. So I'm solid as a two. I'm not a scratch player. Yeah, obviously playing with pros makes it tougher. You guys haven't, like you said, this is the first competitive round You've played since high school, right? It's just a way different element and obviously you guys realize that kind of come

Hopefully appreciate what we do every week. That's kind of what I want to get into too is just watching like Watching you guys grind out here and seeing you shot two under it ferment and seeing where you stood on the leaderboard after that was kind of I mean, I knew scores were low out here, but that was kind of shocking to me. The margin for error. No. It doesn't exist. Yeah, yeah, there, like there is no margin for error. No.

And when you came out at the cliffs on Friday, birdied the first four holes, and we gained one shot during that time period, I was like, You knew we were in trouble, right? How do you guys do this? Yeah, I really don't actually understand it. So for those that don't know, of what is your what's your either? Two or three minute kind of background into your amateur career into your professional career. What's your what's your story? As a professional I'm the constant journeyman. I've played nine different tours from the PGA tour to

You know non-existent mini tours. I've played in 28 countries. I've always been good enough to keep the dream alive. I've had some flashes of brilliance of one twice on the web. I've had my card a couple of times. You know, I was an elite college player. I was a four-time all-american. I won 10 tournaments between college and amateur golf. So play the Walker Cup. So I was obviously, I didn't think I'd be playing the Web Tour, trying to scrape by at age 40. I thought it'd be one of those guys that won five times

and had $50 million like we all do. But I'm still thankful that I get to keep trying. And I'm still hopeful that I can you know achieve more success but it's it's just a really hard deal and honestly if I knew probably how hard it was 17 years ago I don't know if I would have done it it's just you know at the end of the day the math works out to play the PGA tour it's basically five guys a year you know in an entire world. So, I mean, how stupid can you be really to try it? And so, what was your experience like when you finally got, when you got your tour card? Did you feel like your game was well set up to succeed on that tour?

What year did you get it from? The first time was 2012. So the end of 2011. So I've been a pro for 12 years. I played in Asia, you know, when played a couple times out here So I thought I was well adjusted, but I mean I got that shit kicked out of me The one that really hurt it was forked when I got my car back in 14 because I played really well in here I'd finished fourth on the my list. I had one I had like eight top 10. So I Great year going back Yeah, I, I played worse. After the first time, what did you feel like?

All right, I need to improve on this after 2012. Really, I felt like my mid and long iron game. The PGA Tour is such a different animal than the web tour. Certainly many tours, you know, many tours. And here it's more kind of nice country club golf if you're lucky. You know, so you're hitting a lot of short irons. We're on the PJ tour, you know, the average second shot's like 175. So it's a lot of 5, 6, 7 irons and it's a lot different.

You're not trying to necessarily shoot 25 under out there. You're trying to shoot 10. So it's a way different ballgame. It's kind of shocking to see this week. I mean, the term it's concluding as we're speaking, Michael Arnott was not in the event. What an amazing story. I mean, I know Michael Rowell from the Adams tour,

and he's been. How would he see? He's probably see. He's probably 34-ish, played it. Gosh, where did he play it? Little of a mar or Sam Steven F. I was somewhere down there, but he's from South Texas. As always, had the ability to shoot really low.

He's probably one four or five times on the Adams tour, but man, what a life. This is an actual life-changing moment where Whitney's saying really. He was not in the event to Wednesday. Kent Bull with Drew. He was in Oklahoma. I think you're getting ready to play in the tour. He was probably got rained out on Wednesday. So he probably was waiting on his first round tee time.

Comes up, no practice rounds. And he's, what, 75% of the way to a tour card now? Yeah. He shot, he played the front nine twice. And granted it's part 35. He shot 55. He shot 27, 28. He shot 28 today.

28 today. He shot 27 on Friday. With a a bogey with a bogey on nine and he shot 28 today What was his best? I want to see what his best ball was probably about 24. Oh, that is sick So yeah, that's that's kind of what I don't know you see I see like guys like you do still like chasing the dream and still I'm not here knowing that that week is around the corner for essentially anyone. Absolutely, I mean, and you know, especially out here, if you wanna turn them, you're already more than halfway to a tour card, I mean, the number is usually 160-ish. You know, so it's...

You had the yellow bib this week. Yeah, I'm off tour solid star. I mean, I'm basically, if I wanna turn them, I've got my card, I've made enough money. I've made it just about 90,000. So it's just hard. It's, it's hard to keep, obviously, keep chasing the dream when you're just trying to scrape by and you're not having a ton of success, but it's also hard to give it up when you know that you're only four days away or you know I see all my contemporaries that you know my record was as good as you know Charles Coacher the Jonathan Bird all these guys that I grew up playing with and you know

they're still doing very well so it's like the dream is still there. What do you see I mean is there something you look at with those guys games you see as a big difference between yourself and them what is I think there were always I think looking back, there were just a lot more consistent. I was always a very streaky player. So, you know, when I got on a good streak, I could win a turn. I could beat anybody. But, you know, consistency, especially with ball striking day to day on the PGA Tourism which you have to have, you know, putting maybe wind you a tournament, the ball striking

kind of keeps you out there, and that's kind of always where I've struggled a little bit. It's timing too, right? You just gotta get hot the right time. Have you felt like that's been kind of the thing for you over the last decade or so? You just haven't been able to string it together at the right time, or?

That's a really good question, Trana. I mean, I've had some really good years on mini tours. Now, would they have translated to, you know, if I was playing the PGA tour, I don't know. I mean, like 2008, I played the Gateway tour, and I ever left my home, you know, I won four times and I finished second three times out of 10 events.

I mean, it was, I mean, 120 grand, I never left my house. So, but I don't know what I've, would that have translated to, you know, playing somewhere in front of 30,000 people? I don't, so I don't really have no answer to that. What was it? What was your professional status? You have triplets.

You have six year old triplets. What was your professional status at the time when you, when you had the baby triplets? I was, uh, I was a conditional player out here. And I was in, um, let's see, we used to have a, we used to have a tournament outside of Pittsburgh in a terrible course and it was like the best opening round I'd played all year I shot I think 67 and I was in third or fourth and my mom called and said you've got to come home and so I drove like a maniac to the airport got on an airplane and went home and my kids were born two days later. That was September 5th of 11.

So I was kind of doing that. And then I was about to start to our school. And low and behold, I got my tour card the first time that year, which I had to have something to do with it. I was going to say, how did you manage that? I don't know. So were you invigorated, scared, shitless, anxious, excited all the above? D, all the above, yes.

What do you remember the most about how many years did you play on the Asian tour? A little over five. Did you live in the States when you played on the Asian tour? I did, I lived here and then I would take four or five trips for three to five weeks out of time. What do your favorite stories about playing on the Asian tour? Well, you know, I really enjoyed it. It was, it's, it's, it's a lot like the European tour. You have a lot more camaraderie because you're always staying together and, you know,

taking two hour bus rides. You know, I never forget the first event I played after I got my card in Malaysia. It was in Burmama or Myanmar, which is like one of the poorest countries in the world, but it was a military jaunt, I think it still is, but one of the guys, one of the like the Colonel's sons played on the tour, so we got treated like royalty, but I remember pulling up, I had a 24 hour flight to get there and get to the course and I'm playing with a couple of buddies from home. We keep seeing these armed guards with AK-47s and, you know, they're basically guarding

the perimeter of the golf course to keep the peasants out. So, I mean, this is my first time, you know, I've been to Malaysia for Q-School, but that's really not that different, but I was like, this is just a little different. And then, you know, like India with the cold cows and the roads and you can't move the cows. You can't. So just sitting around your bus going, hey, get the damn cows.

Can we like move them along just a little bit? So it's, you know, it was a great life experience. I really, I really did enjoy it. And so you did five straight years out there? I did. So I would play, you know, our season was kind of would start early in the year. And then during our summer, we wouldn't play because it was the rainy season. And then we would play in the fall.

And then I kept doing Q school. And I didn't, I didn't never make it the finals or anything. So I just kept going back and it actually wasn't bad. I played, I think the most I played was maybe 21 tournaments and You know I had the summers off so I'd come play some stuff over here and hang out financially with all the travel costs dealing with traveling such great distances where you were able to that makes sense for you financially play those agent tours were you able to make that work or what was that kind of like financially? You know back then I was single.

I didn't, you know, I didn't really have that much overhead. And I had some nice years where I made, I think the most I made was like 160. So I was able to turn a profit and you know, I was lucky enough that I had a group of guys that helped me out if I needed it. Cool. What, what are, what are things like that you, do you pick up anything from kind of this new school guys that come out these young web, web tour guys that, you know do you pick up anything from kind of this new school guys that come out these young web tour guys that, you know, we play with Curtis Luck this

week, obviously you guys are two totally different ends of your career. Are you still at the phase where you kind of learn things from guys that you play with in any way? I know they all hit the shit out of it. So do you though. Yeah, I mean, I'm still, I'm still above average, but I'm way more average than I used to be. But you're still in the same distance as I used to. I'm still in prionic, I'm in the same distance.

Man, yeah, I do. I enjoy hanging out with the young guys. I mean, they obviously have a spark for what we're trying to do. I still try to pick some of their brains. They're all so good with the technology and the track man's and I'm getting better I use one. I don't have one like most of these guys somehow they'll help me. I don't know. It's fun. It's fun to hang out with them I got a couple of Taylor Moore and Kevin Dirty that hang out with a lot and I just you know they're good good energy Do they pick your mind at all? Do you find many the young guys come to you for advice?

There's a couple um, I actually thought it would probably be more and looking back really if I had to do it over again I would have found more of a mentor. I actually I talk a lot now with Phil Blackmore and I really respect his opinion on these really smart you know, he didn't have a great career. We played on tour for 25 years. Well, some people wouldn't call. I'd call anything if you played 25 years. Sure. That's a great career.

So anyway, now we probably watch his work often. Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So not very many of them. I mean, those guys that hang out with the last me a question, you know about travel or Where to stay or you know, yeah, and obviously some But I do stuff a little different on the golf course me because I'm left handed so yeah, it's not a lot of knowledge going back up Forth where does the BMW charity pro am rank up there with web events like annual events that you play as far as how much you enjoy at the golf courses the whole experience

Hey, it's grown to be a top-notch event. Now, I mean, obviously the days get long with the pro-amp format, but it's something that you know is, you know, it's part of the week. It's like AT&T, you know, Pebble Beach. It's an ass kick, but it's a great event. It's same, same as this week. Obviously, on our tour, the money is so important, and this is one of the top three or four purses, so everybody comes. All the fancy amateurs here, they treat us very well. It's turned into a great event, and Greenville is a great town, great food, nice people, and they've done a good job with Thornblade. It's gotten better. And then I love the cliffs.

Oh, that's great for my favorite place. Those greens are sensational. And then, you know, Furman is a good little layout. You can tell it's kind of a university course. It doesn't get a lot of love. I think the first within the first five minutes of us sitting down for dinner on Tuesday night, or Wednesday night whenever we did

Your face you already were mentioning the greens at the cliffs and I was like all right This guy's gonna come out you birdie the first four holes in the cliffs and I was like getting ready to sound the alarms for 59 Watch I thought it was coming So you ruined with Charles Howell at Oklahoma State, right? I did you have any favorite Charles Howell story? He's a friend friend of the program. know, he's a big fan of the program. I've known Charles for, I first ran into Charles when, let's see, he was, we were either 9 or 10, I'm a year older at the future masters and he had a, he used to play those Yannex drivers and they were, literally they would come into the bottom of his chin.

So he's been, he's been kicking my ass ever since. But you know, Charles wasn't very domesticated when he came to school. So I remember my mom would probably tell the story better. So the end of Charles's freshman year's mom came to kind of help him move out. And he was moving in with us. And we had a tournament in Ardenmore, which is about two hours south of Stillwater and Debbie, she didn't show up till like the second day, and my mom was like, Debbie, where have you been? And she said, well, I've been doing laundry for two days. Every time Charles would run out of underwear and socks instead of learning how to do laundry, he would just go buy more. So he had like three laundry bag full, so underwear up to all. Yeah. It is mom.

If it's doing laundry for like three two days straight before you got to the third of it. Oh, man. All right. So if come this fall, you're going to be at the Web Tour Championship. I would imagine are you down for a rematch menu versus Tron and Curtis?

Oh, there's that mean 100%. Just book it. And if hopefully you're on your way to your pdator card for next year Would you run it back for this event with the with the four of us again? Sure. Yeah, we weren't too distracting You guys are awesome and I listen obviously most of us are front are you know love to love what you guys do I'm excited. I get to be on the pod. I mean this is a listen most your stuff and you know you guys are great for the game I'll appreciate that

I just want to say from my perspective, you know, I kind of goof around a little bit this week How appreciative I was you know how approachable and you were very willing to kind of go along with the absurdness of some of the stuff we were doing So it was much appreciated from our perspective too. It was great getting to know you and also your wife who made the trip. Yeah, so. Randy spent the whole day with the wags, yes.

Yeah, I was outside the robes. Yeah, so I got to know everybody, it was nice. I knew you're into this when after you birdied those first four holes at Cliff, you turn and be like, man, we can't gain anything on these guys. I'm like, you're out here grinding for your card and somehow still care about this team solvers, team trauma thing.

So I thought we were going to make a move, man. Came out firing. I thought you were there. I thought you were all right, too. Yeah, no moves to be made. So you feel like you're just not to, not to delve back into 2D, but you feel like your game is kind of trending back up. Or like you you entered what last year?

You're playing PGA towards Latino America. No, I was playing mini tours. I was playing many tours last year. Yeah, for the last I was never gonna do those don't make sense for me with a you know life and kids You know, I had a little bit of status to Rosy getting into a couple of events out here and You know the Adams tour was so good. It was basically, you know, the same as a Latino tour Economics, I mean, so I was just doing that and then you finished what second in Panama this year? Yeah, second in Panama and fifth in Savannah. So you see a very limited status coming this year Well, actually I went back to Q's no No, I went back to Q's school. I went through all three stages of Q's school.

I used my push card in the first stage. Nice. Nice. I think I remember seeing that on Twitter, yeah. I did it a couple of days in second stage and I had a buddy do a couple of days and then he did finals. And I finished, I think, 35th.

OK. I was kind of, you know, I was about. So that gets you status the first. So got me the first eight starts. Okay. And then you, you partly had that. And I've played nice enough to where I don't have to worry about it. I've pretty much got enough money to where I've already get basically clinched my card for next year.

So now we're just, you know, trying to catch a few hot weeks and get back up there. I know you don't, you don't play there as your home course and we didn't get to watch much of the buyer now. So in this week, but what are your thoughts on Trinity for us? And you've played the state open out there and a little bit more out there as well, right? I think it's very unique. I think it's I think it's fun to

play. We talked about a little bit when I played the state open there, I'm pretty sure the greens were way firmer. I didn't see any any mob balls have a chance to stop on the greens and I know the tours different. They wanted to look good on TV and presented a good product to the to the players but I would like for it to see it play in its normal state. I think it'd be a way you know they wouldn't be shooting grass off of it. Yes, they really didn't with the wind. I mean Charles shot a great round 65 but you know really everybody else was know, kind of right around par.

We spent just 61, 66. I mean, that's one shot. That's a dessert. I mean, that's like, that's like a web tour, you know, I supposed to do that on the big tour. That's nutty. So, on behalf of our whole team, man, thanks for a great week. It was a lot of fun. I hope we don't get to do it again next year, because I hope you're outplayed by Renelson here this time next year. But we can look forward to rematching again here this fall. And thanks a ton for having us, man. Hopefully it's like you and T-Boone pickings playing this. That's right.

Yeah, that's right. Thanks, that's it. Cheers, thanks, guys. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it. Let's get it right club. Be the right club today. That's better than most. How about in?

That is better than most. Better than most. the most.