No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 152: Jessica & Nelly Korda

Episode Date: July 2, 2018

From the KPMG Women’s PGA Championship in Chicago, Big Randy and Soly sit down with Jessica and Nelly Korda to talk about their relationship, what it’s like to be on the LPGA Tour together, how... The post NLU Podcast, Episode 152: Jessica & Nelly Korda appeared first on No Laying Up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Better than most! All right ladies and gentlemen welcome back to the No-Lang up podcast coming at you from Chicago, Illinois. Big Randy and I are here. We are gonna wrap up our week at the KPMG Women's PGA championship, but there's big weekend and golf. We didn't get to see a lot of other stuff that happened. We wanted to touch on a few other things that were going on. Randy, how are you? I'm good, thank you. Yeah, just caught bits and pieces of the action from the media center and other televisions

we're able to get in front of during the week. The Euro event over in France looked, that course looked pretty sick. Reports are good on that layout, on that challenge. It gets going to be weird. Not only say weird, but it's going to be interesting to see how that course plays for match play with that thick of Fescue.

It's going to be interesting what they do with that Fescue over there, but it did have a very, very lintsy feel to it, if you will. Yeah, yeah. I was kind of wondering the same thing, whether they would keep the Fescue that thick and low-prevalent or yeah, or going in hills on it maybe. Brahm did not seem to be enjoying his time this time.

No, we saw him always a yesterday. His struggles on, was it 14th hole? I think it was. He was struggling on. He had gone like double bogey, double bogey a couple times. Actually saved a par from the Fescue, but it was very flummox for a few minutes on whether he could even get his club on the ball.

What did you think of a couple people were chatting on Twitter saying they're surprised and kind of disappointed that more American players didn't go over to play the French open considering this is the course that the writer cup is going to be out here in a few months. What do you think of that? Yeah, I don't know. I think that's a big ask for you to have guys go over there for essentially at the end

of the day, essentially an exhibition at the end of the year. I just don't think it fits in well to a lot of guys' schedules over the next couple weeks. You're saying the Ryder Cup is an exhibition. The Ryder Cup is an exhibition. The Ryder Cup is an exhibition. Yeah, yeah. You know, guys going over for the Scottish in a couple weeks, it's either you're going over and coming back or you're going over for essentially like four weeks,

a whole month if you stay for the Scottish and then the open championship. I think it was an unrealistic expectation to expect a lot of Americans to go over just to play because it's a Ryder Cup course. Is that what you're thinking? Yeah, I'm with you definitely considering you'd have to go either French, Irish, Scottish and the UK British open presented by her majesty.

That's too much to ask and then just go back and forth at a period of time when a lot of guys are actually trying to catch a couple of weeks of rest going into the open championship and things like that. If you want to see the golf course, you can head over a couple of weeks of rest going into the open championship and things like that. If you want to see the golf course, you can head over a couple days as you're adjusting to jet lag, you know, jump a flight from Edinburgh over to Paris and go up and see the course for a day or two if you really want to. And I think a couple guys are going to do that from what I've heard. So I didn't think I thought it was cool that J.C. went and played, but I mean, if I'm guessing I don't have any Inside info and I'm guessing he got rewarded handsomely to go play in that event

In some way, so it's it's not it's not a non topic for me if you ask me well, and I Maybe you might know this question. I'm kind of asking a question. I don't know the answer to like how many potential European writer guys were even in the field? A lot. A lot missed. I'm saying that was definitely not there. A rose. Oh, it missed it there.

I gotcha. And we're not an event. I mean, I'm imagining those guys have played the course before and whatnot. But conditions are going to be different in the fall. And it's guys have three days, four days to practice out there before the event. I'm not putting much stock in that.

And the style of play is going to be totally different. Stroke play versus match play. This stroke play event, guys, you've got to protect against hitting it in all this trouble. Whereas in match play, guys are going to be much more aggressive. So I was cross to see what happened with Julian Surrey there on the 18th hole, fellow Jacks native and fellow customer of haircut candy.

Yeah, we all get our haircut at the same place. And he had a one shot lead on the 18th hole, double bogey did. Everyone kind of melted around, melted down around Alex Noren's final round, 67, 68, 400. I think he shot. Birdied 16 and 17 when everyone else was falling apart there on the stretch. So you had a pretty good tweet about that. I think it took it well. It felt personal.

On the Ryder Cup course. It's a year long crusade. He's got against me. It's a revenge tour. I'm going to feel it. And actually, you know what? I feel like it's finally died down. Well, I think you started to kind of own it, lean into it

a little bit. That's usually when it kind of, the moment you stop fighting, it is when it kind of lets out. never ever ever said the guy couldn't play and despite the the way it's been twisted we're not gonna go down that route anymore that that one says we're putting that behind us was rooting for the the big homie Chris Wood who looks like he's been in the weight room by the way he had a good chance at it shot two over today and missed missed out on a playoff by one shot But Chris Wode was kind of he's been Team slender man. Are you saying has he lifted himself out of that exclusive club?

It certainly looked like it I mean I sent him a message asking him you know if you've been on swole patrol and he said He's just nuck into J. Day's fitting shirt. So, okay, so that's yeah little little inside info for you there Moving on to PGA tour we didn't get to see almost any of this this weekend. Unfortunately big homie ZB We I think we're glad we didn't get to see much of it today. Yeah, we were pulling too hard for him I think that's what I've heard yeah, I think we just we all wanted it a little too much Final round 79, unfortunately. 77?

What's the par out there? I think it was par 70. Well, par 70. He shot, he shot, he shot seven over today, unfortunately. But Francesca Molinar ran away with that one. Kind of took the drum out of that one, which is kind of a bit of relief from our end, considering we weren't able to watch it. Tiger T4, kind of a quiet little T4, if you ask me.

I know the field was much weaker this week, but put the mallet putter in play and was seventh in Strokes Gain putting this week using a brand new putter. So if you got the putting figured out, that's what held him back at Memorial, it's what held him obviously back at the US Open and in recent weeks. So that's at least something intriguing to watch here in the coming weeks. So this isn't a new or original take, but I think it's worthwhile just to remind myself every week or a couple weeks is what Tiger is doing is absolutely incredible. Correct. I honest to God thought he would retire from the game and that he's even competing is somewhat of a miracle

and that he's like, he finished in the top five of a PGA Tour event this week. And it was kind of ho-hum. I feel like it should still be like front page news. It's just, it's incredible. Yeah, I mean, I'm appreciating how Used to it we've already gotten you know, and it's but it's it is kind of And I've tried to add perspective on it back when it happened just all that he's been through in the recovery process and how so much of this could not have happened and

You know you you and I have both had kind of some back issues here in the last three, four months that are so incredibly minor compared to what he's gone through. And we were both just really struggling with it and kind of puts into perspective for how much he's gone through to get back out there and playing. So yeah, it is amazing that we kind of brush by it now. But I think the next, we've seen top five from him since he's been back.

And so we're kind of waiting for the next shoe to drop, which is a victory So we're we kind of tend to be unimpressed with the top five when we should be we still should be like it We should be impressed that he's able to to play correct I think that one picture that was floating around the webs this week of him walking to one of the teas and just the crowd that was Fallon behind him it was I mean yeah, it's unsurprising, but I mean mean, all the fans are out there battling that heat, following him. I mean, we had it here in Chicago, too.

That was not the weather you want to be attending a golf tournament in. No, it's kind of brutal. You just pray for lots of shade. We got out of Jack. We tried to get out of Jacks during the summer to try to get some cool Midwest air, but yeah, we came in the wrong week in Chicago. It was 95. He did index of like one, we came in the wrong week in Chicago. It was 95. He did next, he did next to like one 12 at one point

this week in Chicago. So yeah, um, about quickly, uh, how about Bo Hossler? It came to play. 26 now in the FedEx Cup rank. Is he really? Yeah. What do you think is T6 this week? T6 this week.

How about shout out as well to Steven Yeager, little podcast bump T13 in his first PGA tour event since coming on the podcast. So, I mean, we can try to act surprise, but we're not. DJ D fung. What do you finish? He finished tied for 17th. Wow.

A lot of things happening. What do you think of the open qualifying series? So it basically? Well, why don't you explain it for the listeners? Well, I think, I hope I don't screw it up, but essentially the top four players that are not automatically, not already qualified for the Open Championship that finish in the top 12 get an exemption into the Open Championship. So I didn't see exactly who that went to on the PGA tour, but ZB was in the running for that one and we were definitely pulling

for that one. But do you like kind of that mode of qualifying for the open better than say, like an actual sectional qualifier? Gosh, I think yes and no. On the one hand, I really enjoy the idea of local and sectional US Open qualifying just because it keeps alive that fairy tale. You know, Cinderella story, literally anybody could go out and win the US Open because of those stages of

qualifying. And I guess, theoretically, you could too, like, through years of, you know, status and tour starts the other way. But it's like if you want the best field possible, I feel like the open champion should qualifying might deliver a stronger field. Yeah, I guess all things being equal, if you're asked me kind of which I prefer. I think I actually kind of like the way the USDA does it. How about you?

I like it. I think it adds an extra level of entry. I think anything that kind of supports the kind of, I don't want to say fringe guys, but the guys that kind of live in that purgatory. This is kind of their heavy hit part of the season. All these guys are outside the top 125 from the previous year and kind of have semi-status on the tour. They can pretty much get in all the events they want in this stretch.

If you have a big week, it can change around your whole career and season by getting the open championship and whatnot. I do like that intrigue added to this event because otherwise this kind of little stretch is not the most intriguing on a week to week basis but sure gives you one extra thing to follow as the week of weeks go long until the deer gets here correct Yeah, we have back to major season so on that note we actually were out here in Chicago is probably clear on Twitter this week Let me let me sorry, let me jump in. Sorry to kind of get excited.

I'm not excited. But there was one other event that we kind of were able to catch the tail end of each night, which was the US senior open. Correct. And I think I saw holes 13 through 18, like three times, but I didn't see any of the other holes just because, you know, when we were out at the

the women's PGA, but it was a sneaky good leaderboard at last. I said that last night and you know big ups to David Thompson, clutch putts down the stretch. It's interesting to kind of watch that in comparison to just the men's US open and that we're kind of able to enjoy it a bit more, you know it's less hectic and you're less engaged from a like a critical standpoint. And just kind of to take it in and kind of, and I commented today just how those microphones that at that last putt that David Thompson had to win, I caught him catching making a huge deep breath right before he hit like that four foot putt to win the tournament. I just think that's so cool.

Like from an audio perspective, it's kind of go and watch the golf we saw this week and then flip on the TV and hear conversations here, Jerry, Eric Paul Goido say, just never felt comfortable over a putt all day and all that perspective. I think it's cool that Fox gives the 100% treatment to these events, all the events that they do, not just the men's US open, but just the most watched. I did too and i am really hoping to be able to watch some of the u.s

uh... senior women's open oh yeah cago golf club here what couple weeks it is in two weeks i believe so yeah that is going to pop on tv from what i gather so yeah that's exciting so all right sorry so as you're saying that we spent this week here in chicago at the uh... k p m g women's p g a championship All right, sorry. So as you're saying, yeah, we've spent this week here in Chicago at the KPMG Women's PGA championship. It was my first LPGA event, let alone first major and had heard good things. I know you guys had been out to the key of classic earlier this year. Kind of just raved about the overall atmosphere. It's just a different, it's just different out here.

It's just different. What were you hoping to get out of this week coming into it? Well, a few things. Anytime I go to a golf tournament, what I like to do personally is, I like to walk the whole course. So I hate just like being posted up at one spot and watching multiple groups come through.

I don't like to watch golf that way. So, I wanted to get out and walk and at least early in the week, Thursday, Friday, my goal is to always, you know, essentially get a pairing sheet and look for groups that all three players, ideally, I'm like, who are you? Totally unfamiliar with. Yeah. And then do just a quick little cursory research and you know, I'll kind of single it down to two, three groups do a little bit of research where they from,

you know, quick back story, pick a group and then go out and walk at least nine holes with them. So usually I'll, you know, walk nine holes. If it's really interesting, I'll do the whole round. But, you know, after nine, I might jump to another group that I was thinking of. And it's just a great way to, one, there's no crowds with these groups. So you're never fighting a lot of bodies. Two, because there's no crowds, and usually the, how do I say it's kind of the stature of the players right there, they're not the, yeah, they're not gathering the biggest. No, and so I don't know. It's just more prone to kind of some funny, random,

random, random interactions, just, you know, some weird stuff can happen and usually, you know, you're witness to it. And so, and so yeah, I saw a little bit of that. So those are my big goals early in the week. And then later in the week, you know, what I wanted to do was really get a firsthand look at some of the, you know, tournament leaders and ideally, you know, top five, top 10, you know, the really prominent players up close, just because I find it fascinating that they essentially, you know, the really prominent players up close, just because I find it fascinating

that they essentially, you know, their orders of magnitude obviously better than I am, but they're essentially playing the same game I am. The yardages are pretty similar. They're attacking a golf course in much the same way I would have to if I were playing. And we were able to see that. So it was kind of mission accomplished on all fronts for me.

I had a blast. It was hot as hell, but we managed and made the best of it. There is. And we weren't up the first to say this, but yeah, like you said, there's so much more you can learn from watching these women play than you would learn from watching a PGA tour player play from 75 to 100 yards further back, bombing driver at distance we can't hit,

whereas to see how they manage their way around fairway bunkers and how they plot themselves towards pins and stuff like that and how they make it look easy with their swing speed. But we got to see, I mean, Song-Yong Park swings a golf club. Yeah, yeah, don't get me wrong. Like some of them like freaking lash at the ball.

Right. Yeah, it's probably, you know, it's just like the PGA. There's different levels of just different swings and different rhythms and tempos. But it seems like the women, there's more, there's more women with just such good rhythm in their swings. I don't know. Maybe it just doesn't demand their game doesn't demand you know that you hit a nine iron from 175 yards sometimes and just not everyone's trying to max out distance with their irons and a lot of them

carry a lot of hybrids and use those to approach par fours like it's nothing and are able to stop them on a dime and But man, I think we both kind of were we're heavily drawn into it so you can use golf swing in her whole aura And like I kind of caught that earlier earlier on in the week and I was heartbroken to see her Double bogey the 17th hole to essentially cost herself the championship She had some strong play coming in and birdie the first play of all to extend it to a second hole. But that was kind of the first impression I got was that the person I felt like I could

have learned the most from and how they managed their game. And there's how efficient and tidy everything was. And I don't know. That was that was my biggest takeaway. It was just being so impressed with her attitude, her demeanor and everything that went along with following her for several days. Yeah, she had an incredible disposition. I mean, I don't think I ever saw her show any type of anger

or she never gave the appearance of being upset about anything and granted she played, you know. Yeah. Take away like two holes today. She essentially played 70. Fluffy. Really good holes of golf. I was just so, like, she's just never out of position. And like, not only not out of position, but it's like dead center of the fairway or,

you know, right center attacking a left hand pin. She's just always in the right spot. And then her approaches into the green, like so many times, you know, she's not hitting it so high and stopping it on a dime, like she's, she's, dragging it. Yeah, she's landing it, you know, 25, 30 feet away from the pin with some release.

And it's, you know, ending up 10, 12 feet and then she makes a putt. It's just a, it was just really impressive display. And I think you know I get some people were making comments and I know that there was three eight there were three Asian players in the playoff this time around. And I know that kind of want to be we want to be cautious how we how we discuss this. But they don't want to put our fun in our mouth. Right. But a way of saying it is the interest for the game is obviously much higher if the if Lexi Thompson is going to be in the playoff

and some of the top American stars, Michelle, we and whatnot. But just and listen, we're not going to try to act like we're experts on the LPGA tour or Women's Golf. Well, no, I think, right, I think from, like, let's be real. It's like from our perspective, like know what is our perspective we are casual at best I think is fair to say LPJ fans to this point like I know I'll be more of an LPJ fan after this week but coming into this week it's like casual at best you know tune into weekend coverage of the majors maybe you know a couple odd rounds throughout the year in addition to that. And so I think one being casual fans of the women's game and two being like American males were naturally going to be drawn to the players whose backstory we have been exposed to.

And I think a lot of times, you know, the players from Korea and elsewhere in and around Asia, you just don't have an understanding of backstory. You don't have a good feel of personality sometimes. And that's, you know And that's not their fault. That's probably our fault a little bit for not being more in touch. But I think the reality is, I'm sure there are a lot of people tuning in, for instance, today that are in the same shoes

as we are. And maybe kind of, I don't want to say put off. I don't think that's the right word. But maybe not as drawn into the coverage seeing You know Nasa Hattoka was Japanese and then two South Korean players, right Yeah, no, and it's it's but I think where you're going with this. Let's yeah

It's in the few you know since going to the key classic and I'm much more I've been refreshing the LPJ leaderboard way more often and kind of getting to know some of the people and following them on a week to week basis. And I find myself equally as drawn in by some of the top Asian players as I am with the American players, especially two of the teams that ended up in the playoff were people that I wanted to follow in the week in the in Thursday and Friday just because I was drawn in by their swings and their stories. I mean, I mean, so you so you knew I'll be honest, I going this week, I didn't know if she spoke English even or not. And she was at the player showcase thing on Wednesday and she was just this bubbly personality and was entertaining everybody and had a smile on her face the whole time. And I was just kind of drawn into her whole, I got, it sounded like I'm about to risk it all for it. That's not what I made.

I was just like, this is like an intriguing person to me. In the way she handled, the way she handled her post. She's just magnetic. Yeah, yeah. She's got a magnetic personality. Handled everything with such class and had a smile on her face and was signing autographs after essentially losing the championship. I don't know, just getting to see firsthand the struggle, but then people, she's a two-time

major winner and see her fighting for her third and going through the nerves of it, I felt so much closer to the situation and more likely to tune in next time she's near the top of the leaderboard. I totally agree and just kind of while you're talking I think a couple points come to my mind. You know, I think that the takeaway for me, one of the big takeaways for me is having spent, you know, just four days at the tournament, is like now I have an appreciation. Like I know like now I have an appreciation like I know so young you is this magnetic personality and outgoing and just bubbly and I know you know song hung hung park is like this silent assassin and you know very shy but like

stoic and and part of that is explained by she doesn't speak the language and she doesn't yes new to the country right doesn't. Yes, she's new to the country. Right, right. She's new to the LPGA Taurus. But what I'm saying is it's like I leave with like a feel for like who these people are. So I think, you know, honestly, like our job and hopefully this podcast is part of that. You know, I think I think our job when we go to cover LPJA events is to bring those personalities and to let our audience know who might not be as familiar with it, show them that personality.

So the next time they do flip on Final Round coverage in an LPJA event, they'll have a much better appreciation and they'll be more drawn to it. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's just like when you said it's just different out there, it really is. I mean, it's it's fun. I mean, we were supposed to do a podcast with Angel Yinn and Lizette Salas. Lizette ended up big timing us and ended up not coming by the, not quite. Yeah, it was the brain. The practice round got pushed back. Yeah, we'll give her a pass, I think. Anyways, we end up talking to Angel for a little while. Angel is like a 19 year old. She's American.

She's of Chinese descent, but American girl is just awesome. Hilarious to talk to. And her caddy, she's like, my caddy told me to ask you about your towels. She said, you guys have towels. I was like, yeah, I'll give them a towel. So I gave her caddy a towel. And I saw him during the round today.

And he's like, do you believe it? yanked my the towel off my bag already. And Angel had just made birdie and the final round of the tournament and comes running up. She's like, hey sorry I ignored you yesterday. He's like T5. Yeah. Sorry I didn't mean to walk right by you when you gave Chris the towel. I was like you were signing your card like it's fine but they're just so happy to have people out there covering the game and and and super I think we got to do how many podcasts this week during a major that never happened

right. And they're just gracious and outgoing. I was going to say, you know, telling that story about angel. It's like you want to talk about like an electric personality is like holy smokes like she will light up a room. And then again, it's just you got to spend time. And so, you know, I know I was guilty of I haven't spent the time, but I think this is a good first step into kind of learning about these players, getting to know them. And like I said, I will be much

more of a fan and much more kind of knowledgeable going forward, which is exciting. And we've talked about, you know, we said this was an initiative for us this year to get out to more women's events to cover the women's game tighter. It's been, it's a bandwidth issue. If we could do it every week, we would, you know, I mean, just being out there this week and missing out on all the other golf that was going on around the world was quite challenging, but got to cover a women's major. Super excited to do that. Very glad we did.

And it was a success. I know it's July 4th weekend, and maybe people aren't as tuned in to be able to watch as much golf as we wanted to this weekend, but it was a blast. And we had had a chance to interview the court of sisters, which shout out to Jessica. She finished tied for fourth. I think Nelly ended up in a tie for 40th.

And we also got to interview Lydia Co. last week. She ended up tied for 31st. She got up there near the top, but just didn't couldn't quite hang. I think I said to you early Saturday in her round. I think she had just birdied number one or number two. And I was like, Lydia's going to win this. Yeah. She absolutely flagged her T-shot, par three, third. And it just went long. It was his back pin, and it's like, you just can't go long as dead. She ended up making Bogey, and I feel like that kind of took all the wind out of her sales. Yeah.

Got to play with Michelle Wee during the Pro Am, which was phenomenal. I think we talked a bit about that on the last podcast with Karen Stuppels, but she was great. We're going to have a lot of video stuff coming up, hopefully this week, and breaking that down a little bit, especially thanks to all the KPMG folks and everyone from CAA and from the LPGA media that just helped us with every single step along the way. This was a blast to cover, hopefully that shines through in the content and in the podcast and what not.

Anything else before we turn it over to the court of sisters? No, I think that, sorry to kind of leave you on a dull note, but I think that's about it for me. All right. That is it. Signing off here from Chicago, we're going to roll over to our interview. We've recorded this obviously on Wednesday before the tournament started. So I know that it's not the most timely,

but it's as timely as we could talking to Jessica and Nelly Corda about their relationship, their careers and everything to date for them. Yeah, I was gonna say it's more evergreen stuff. We didn't really get deep into the, no, the women's PGA per se, Jessica's story about her injury and recovery, I think is pretty fascinating.

And we tried to do a little digging into kind of the sister dynamic and they come from obviously a sporting family. So I think it's good stuff in there. Yep, definitely. So, all right, signing off here from Chicago. Everybody have a good July 4th. And might be a bit of a break on the podcast after this. We're going to be doing a bit of traveling, not quite ready to fully reveal that yet,

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or at OdysseyGolf.com. Now for real, let's turn it over to the court of sisters. All right, welcoming in the court of sisters, Jessica and Nelly, we're gonna do the best we can to kind of distinguish the two voices here, best we can, but all right, so first off, Jessica, do you guys get tired of doing me having to do do media together?

That was a long enough Maybe you'll direct that at Nellie since you since that's somewhat new since you've been out You know, come on why are you giving me that face? So it's kind of it's just weird. It's you know when one of us plays well and the other one doesn't play well The media comes and asks you about the other person. You're just like, come on, let me be. Which has happened a couple of times. But for the most part, we have a lot of fun with it, just because we have so many stories

and I feel like the deeper we get into a conversation, the nutty, you're right kids. And so, especially just Nelly and I hanging out, it's outrageous sometimes. What was it like growing up as you guys as kids? like the nutty-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er-er Last year, last year, last year. No, because I mean, she was, she's five years older and... I'm shocked you didn't put the hat in there. Yeah, five and a half, if anyone wants to really know. The English population. The English population, that everyone knows. Very important. And, you know, she was already on tour when I was 12.

So, I didn't really grow up that much together. I think she's playing a lot of Barnabas. Yeah, well, say that, what year're what, 24, 25, yeah. You guys do start your career so young. It definitely feels like you've been out for a while. No, was it always golf for you? Did you always know you wanted to play golf as well? Yeah, I mean, having an older sibling just in general,

you always want to do what they're doing. So all the time and Jess is getting really annoyed when she was a teenager. You know going through teenager motions. She's always like, every where I went I had to take you with me. There was no like, oh I'm going with my friends but I want to go too. And my mom was like, well if you want to go, you have to take your sister with you. And I'm just like, come on. Seeing her play golf, I really wanted to play as well. But my dad was really into golf. And just in general, we spend a lot of weekends at the golf course, so that's really how I got into it.

And obviously, I looked up to just and still do. So I'm really into it. I'm really into it. I'm like, I'm scared. I do so. I'm willing to admit that. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. And I just always want to kind of follow in her path. I remember I have a simple thing about the same, a younger than me.

It's about the same gap as you guys. And as kids, we did not get along at all. And then as adults, we grew close together. Was there a period of time where you guys didn't get along? Or is that still current? No, we've always had a really good relationship. I mean, she was really annoyed. Jess was really annoyed when she had to take me everywhere.

Yeah. And so this was the biggest thing is, like, Nelly would be the biggest tattletail ever. Not? And you know, I mean to a certain age, you have to say that. No, no, no, but that's what I'm'm saying and then our brother started doing it to her and so she realized how annoying it was how would you brother he's two years younger two years younger than seven younger seven years younger than seven and a half

in myself got our first eye role perfect but yeah so when he started kind of doing these things that she was doing to me, she was getting so annoyed by it, and so her and I would start ganging up on him. And so that, you know, we grew closer with that. Perfect. And then just on the golf course, you know, being her short game's always been so great. And, you know, you'd always try to compete as much as we could with each other, but it was never the same. I mean, you at a young age with the five year gap,

that is a lot. And it's gotten really fun for me to see how she kind of grows up with the game and just how, you know, the woman that she's shaping into, which is crazy because you're turning 20 this year and I might cry. Oh, cry! because you're turning 20 this year and I'm like, Christ. Oh, Christ. Do Nelly, do you, are you guys, or I guess both of you guys, do you scoreboard watch

and see how the other one's doing? And then you think about it, and then you're in the middle of her own. I think you kind of like motivates us too, because you know, you see her up there, and you're like, I'm like, I'll say it's a very competitive. She's so mean.

She sees me inside the top 10. Still like, I'm so bitter about it. It did happen last year, but Nelly sees me inside the top 10, and she's on so bitter about it. It did happen last year. But Nelly sees me inside the top 10, and she's on 18 and needs to make a birdie to kick me out. And she's like, I'm going to make this. And then I don't even send her great job and good playing. I'm just like, you know.

That's all I get out of your bag. Thanks for taking away my top 10. Well, I had read that I think maybe it was after your first cut. I don't know exactly the situation, but you had said sometimes you feel like you're almost more happy in Jessica. You're almost more happy in Nellie's results sometimes than maybe Nellie is. I was just curious, how long that will remain the case now that you're more on equal footing and a little bit more competitive.

That was definitely the case for the first tournament and then it was like, okay, I want to beat you because we have, we had a bet or we still do, I think it's every year, right? Jess, really? Sure, let's go. Sure, let's go. Year long bet, whoever wins. I like her. I lose her has to buy her a bag of her choice.

So last year, obviously, I had to buy Jess a bag of her choice. Except for, Nelly decided to merge it into my Christmas present. Okay, so when you have Jessica Corda picking out a designer bag you obviously have to merge it into a Christmas rather because it is not cheap. Oh my god you are full of it right now. It's been a lot more expensive. So I want to hear talk about your brother too, because he's also an athlete. He plays tennis, correct? So what is his current stature in the game?

Amazing. Is he still an amateur? Yes. So he's six foot five. He's tall, very like he. Working his butt off right now. Dad and Sebi flew to London yesterday. Two days ago. And he's getting ready for Wimbledon. Sebi flew to London yesterday. Today's the go.

And he's getting ready for Wimbledon. So he just came off of... Junior Wimbledon. He just came off of... He lost in the semis of Junior French, which was, you know, good. And obviously the win in the Australian open was pretty special. How do your parents keep up with trying to watch you guys play

and watch your brother play? Mommy's usually with me. No, my mom, my mom out usually. And then my brother usually has my dad. So I'm like, are you saying my brother and my mom? Because it's like I wasn't. Hey, you're the other side of Florida. You're not part of the clan anymore.

But both your parents, too, were professional tennis players, right? Yeah, so mom was top 25 in the world and obviously everyone knows my dad. I feel like I don't know for you this week now, but there's so many people coming up to us or me and being like, is your dad here? I was such a huge fan of him more than any other event. I mean, I just played the golf course for the first time today so not really. Yeah I had people stop me today that were like oh I brought pictures of your dad would have loved to have him sign it and I was like I'll sign something. That's cool

like you just keep walking. How are your tennis games and also how's your brother's golf game? Oh my gosh my brother's golf game is amazing. His swing is so good. He's a lefty in golf. Golf taught. Yeah. He's insane. But you guys don't really play tennis much. Well, he took us out a couple of months ago,

and let's just say the balls went high and by. I think I'm better than you. Come on. You have to say that. I see it. I think he's better. I think he's better. N She's really good at ping pong. I can't say who's better at 10 Nets because we don't play.

You parents are both checked too as well. I read that you grew up and you play summers in the Czech Republic back in the day. When did that stop? Do you speak Czech? What is your kind of your Czech background? So a little crazy. My parents had no idea where they wanted to live. Obviously I was born in the States because communism had just been lifted and so they just in case it came back, they didn't want us to grow up the way that they did.

And I went to school in Czech Republic half the year and half the year I'd be enrolled in American school. So I would go half days, and I would get taken home around 12 o'clock, and then get tutored in the other language, and it facts over the work fight to the other school. And then that's how I was in school for till fifth grade. And then they decided that we were going to stay in the states because I was playing golf and they saw potential and knew that for me to be able to be the best

that I can be, the US is definitely the place for us to grow up, it's Nellie and Sebi, where it already is better year round. Well, there's better, I mean, we're right next to the ocean, it's tough to beat. It's so tough to beat. So I actually represented the check national team until I was 15.

It was really cool. I played World Amateur when I was 13 in South Africa. I played European teams, European young masters. Awkward story, I said no to being on the junior Ryder Cup for Europe because I qualified, thinking I was going to get picked for the States. But they thought I was born in Chugger Public, not in America. So I was going to get picked for the States, but they thought I was born in Chugger Public, not in America, so I actually didn't get chosen for it.

So I didn't get to play on each day. I just got lost out of all. Yeah, I messed out on the entire day. But yeah, no, I loved playing in Europe during the summer. It was awesome, and then the winners we would get off and be a normal kid. And a lot of the summers, too, were mostly spent, you know you know with my cousin who's five days older than I am and Just being a kid. Do you still speak checker? I speak fluent in tech You really what about you?

You do really communicate with half of our more than half our family you have to so that makes sense So I noted in I saw in your your first win was the Australian open which coincided your dad won the Australian open as well How does a six-way playoff even work? I had no idea I saw your first win was the Australian Open, which coincided with your dad won the Australian Open as well. How does a six-way playoff even work? I had no idea. So we all chose TZ, like broke TZ, and we're like, oh, basically, you know, this is how it's gonna be.

I took the last T, so I was the last one to hit, and they split us up into two groups. Okay, I thought they might. I thought they split us up. They split us up into two groups, I thought they might. I thought they split us up. They split us up together. They split us up into two groups and I had never been so nervous. I was so nerve-wracking. But I remember Barton Nieland's echo coming to me

and she was like, you need to breathe. And I was like, I literally almost tried to cry and because I forgot to breathe. And. Going into this before the play. No, this was during. So we all, everyone, I think only one of them didn't make a par.

We all part and went back to the tee. And then I honestly, I'm not 100% sure who it was with the three put in. I saw one more girl, three put that played in front. There was a huge jumbo trying right there. So I could see what was happening on the green when I was in the fairway. And I was just trying to hit the fairway and hit it somewhere on the green. And then I left myself the same putt twice and I ended up draining this putt and I was like, I like goosebumps everywhere, like I just couldn't believe it. And then I

think Julietta was putting in mist and then Stacy was putting in and then mist and Brit was just standing off on the side with me and she was like, you need to breathe, you're turning blue. It was like, okay. It's funny, Brittany was just in here before you guys came in talking about how nervous she gets on the course. It's funny that she's able to identify that for you. So, Nelly, do you guys travel together

from week to week? Do you guys stay together on the road? Does that have to ask them? They actually just travel together and had a nightmare of a travel day. Yes. Oh, okay. The worst travel day I've had ever.

Last year we didn't travel at all together because I would get to the site on Sunday because I like, I've never played the show tournament. But this year we also haven't really been traveling. I mean, she spends most of her time on the other side of Florida and West Palm and I'm in Sarasota. So, you know, we usually get to the tournament on the same day and sometimes we room together, we room together. At the beginning of the year, but now kind of go in our separate ways a little. I mean, when you kind of play practice runs together and then room together, You kind of want to join together. And have lunch together.

Yeah, that's, yeah, I was, that's exactly what I was asking. I was like, what point do you guys separate for the day and not, you know, our friends are really good about it too. They're like, hey, if you need a break, like all, you know, you guys can room with your, yeah, or we just go or we just go on our, our own. That makes sense. So you had a very eventful winter, this past winter. Walk us through kind of what happened with,

you had surgery this winter, and it was a long recovery process. You recovered from it. On the course, quicker than you expected, but what was the basis of the surgery you had, and what did they do, and how that worked out? So I've been struggling with headaches in my grains for years now. They said that when I was, when they took my braces off, I'd brace on for eight years

To try and fix this problem and they never could Basically only my back teeth touched so your grow your bottom jaw supposed to grow down and then kind of forward Mine just kept growing down So only my back teeth were touching and I couldn't there was no traction in the front at all So biting into things I had to go to the side of everything. So a lot of pressure kind of created in the back. When we played U.S. Open in 2015, I went to see a specialist and there was braces that I could have, they would drill into the top of my, John, you know,

trying to move things around like I cannot have braces. Like, there's one thing that I cannot do is braces right now. So they built me this like, puck that I basically had, which Nelly had seen it for the first time, I think last year and she was like, you should be so happy in a relationship because you were just wow. And I was like, you should be so happy in a relationship because you were just wow

And I was like thanks. She literally was laughing for like 15 minutes straight. I was like, I mean But like it's not that funny. Yeah, cuz it's like it's straight up hockey puck like it's just it was not pretty and So that actually relaxed my jaw so much that it dropped back and I started snoring at night So that actually relaxed my jaw so much that it dropped back and I started snoring at night. And it all seemed like, where? Oh, Millie woke me up in the middle of the night with like, Jess, you're snoring. And I was like, no, I'm not.

I can hear myself. She was like, you can't hear yourself. I couldn't fall asleep. I was like, I was debating on like throwing a pillow in her face. And I was like, it was so bad. So it actually also dropped back and left. So when I was talking or chewing or anything,

I had to swing it back to center and then bring it back up, which made me work even harder. And it just tightened everything up even more. So I had terrible migraines. I was, had headaches every single day. I wouldn't sleep through the night properly. And I finally had enough in China where I had a migraine that literally cramped up half my face.

I couldn't even open my eye. I had to pull out the program and I literally just went back and slept and tried to get rid of it that way. And the cramp lasted until the next week into CME and I called my parents and I was like, I'm doing the surgery. We need to find a surgeon called the surgeon. And he was like, I can fit you in December 7th. So you knew what the surgery had to be at that point already. I thought that it was just going to be there going to break my

bottom jaw and just move it forward. I didn't realize that. Yeah, just just that. If you think about that, actually wouldn't be as bad as what happened was they actually went in through my top lip and broke my top jaw into three. So your palate into three. So I have a ton of screws from like my nostrils down. This might be the first time I faint in a part. And then they made small incisions on the sides of bottom where your bottom draws and they kind of like shaved off side because there's a nerve is running through the bone.

So they shaved off the side and kind of slid it forward and then put screws in there. And yeah, so the recovery was awful. It's been documented over and over again, lots of blood, lots of throwing up. Didn't take in a calorie for three weeks. I was fed through a syringe. Couldn't even, they had to break my nose on top of it because they couldn't get the breathing tube up. So usually it would go down your throat

but they're working in your mouth so as to go up your nose. This point where you regretting doing this, or did you go, was gonna be like this? I didn't know it was gonna be this bad. I would recommend anybody doing it is to have it done in a hospital and be in a hospital. I was outpatient. And so my mom had to take care of me.

And mind you, we were also in North Carolina. So we were nowhere near Florida. And then I had to fly five days later, go home. And I kicked my doubt out of his bed because I had to be monitored. And so I slept in bed with mom. And you know, every couple hours she had to change my ice, give me my medication and all this stuff. And I had no idea what time.

And it was so all of a sudden at four o'clock in the morning, I decided I'm going to take a shower. My mom got no sleep. I think Nelly took it really well. My brother couldn't even walk into the room. He was like terrified of my face. I mean, Jess didn't even feel her bottom lips, so she was drooling a lot. And I would just be eating dinner, I'm like, Jess, you're drooling everywhere.

I'm like, sorry. I still don't feel, I would say 75%. I still don't have feeling. I have nerves that are tingling, which is a really good sign. So the nerves are recovering. I just nerves that are tingling, which is a really good sign. So the nerves are recovering. I just had my last couple of scans done and the bones, everything looks really good. Just the left side isn't growing in as fast as the right side, so and I can't feel most of the teeth. But it isn't proving. It's so much. It's so much. The original problem though is totally gone. Now I just have, because also I'm doing in vis-a-line, because when you do this type of surgery your teeth shift.

And so I also am in vis-a-line and moving my teeth, which is putting a lot of pressure just on like my jaw, just the muscles. So it's kind of struggling with something a little different, but that'll go away once I'm done with treatment on Tuesday. So is she emerged from this and Jessica looked totally different? Oh yeah. I mean, what was that like to see your heavier sister, like just basically look at, come out and look different.

I know you had said Jessica that you looked like a mirror. I looked like Shrek. And you don't, but even like you looked in the mirror and didn't recognize yourself. I mean, it's what's that like? It took some time to adjust. And when the swelling went down, I mean, she looks really good now, but when the swelling was still there, it was a little scary as she said,

my brother was like, oh my God, what? He like, what? He wouldn't come near me. It wasn't that bad. I mean, come on. He, but he was shocked. I mean, come on. Don't really act. But he was shocked. I mean, seeing someone for what, 17 years,

looked the same and then one day, she comes home and she looks like a balloon, just so swollen, and then looks completely different. You're just like, uh. And then when you came back on tour, you would walk by people and they may not recognize you. That was tough. I, I think the first like two days in, in Thailand were tough. Like the first, I, it was tough because none of my friends were there because like, Nelly and Austin and,

Alison, they were just all coming from Australia. So people that have seen me on FaceTime, like I had nobody there. And so, I, like people were staring, which I knew I was prepared for. Kind of. But it was tough. You go, and the surgeon told me, you go through depression, you'll go through, you know, why did I do this? I'm happy I did it. It was definitely really, really tough.

It kind of taught me a lot to people stare. People really, really tough. It kind of taught me a lot to people stare. People really, really stare. If I ended up being a swollen as I was, I would probably have a harder time walking outside. Were you still really swollen when you went to Thailand? I was still pretty swollen. You look at pictures from then to now. It's still a pretty big difference. And I wasn't eating a whole lot.

On a golf course, what do you eat? I mean, you can't really take too many liquids with you so I was I was sucking on goldfish because that was the easiest thing for me to eat because anything chewy was not. And then I mean you just went out in one. That's right. I was black out no idea what happened. That's what is such an amazing story and I know you've told it many times, you're probably dwelling on it but it ends with you winning that tournament is just that's what I find the most remarkable it's amazing. That was cool.

Congratulations. That's so cool. Thank you. I feel like this is like majorly shifting gears. Oh. That's fine. I'm curious if you guys kind of as sisters, I think the most natural prominent set of sisters in athletics is probably the Williams sisters.

I don't know if you guys look at people like that as any kind of inspiration or how they've done things both on and off the court or if it's. I don't think we like look at the sister dynamic of the Williams sisters. I think we just look at like the sister dynamic of like the William sisters. I think we just look at them as like individuals or or any athlete really individually. I don't think it's more of what it's like a sister duo kind of thing. It's more of just like who knows what how they are off the court.

I mean, I know obviously they say that they're very supportive of each other and that's kind of what we are to. Yeah. We're it. Melia and I I know how to deal with her that they're very supportive of each other. And that's kind of what we are to, where, Melia and I, I know how to deal with her. She knows how to deal with me. We also know how to push each other's buttons if you really want to. But at the same time, like, if she ever needed me to do anything, I will drop everything that I'm doing and go help her. And she's exactly the same way.

And, you know, being on and towards such a lonely place and to have a sister that you may or may not be getting along with at the time. Yeah. Really nice. Well, Nelly, you were so close in Singapore and I remember the image I remember is walking off that final green and Jessica was right there. Like do you remember that?

Do you remember like did you need the comfort at that time? Oh, yeah. I was kind of like there were a lot of emotions because I mean, it was a it was a long day and you know, being so closely kind of like there's a lot of emotions because I mean it was a it was a long day and you know being so closely to kind of having in then you know I was on 18T and I was actually over the ball and I hear the massive roar from Michelle and you know I do I mean I hit a really good shot into 18 and obviously the best shot I've seen all day I was such a tough pin I was like if that doesn't show some stuff,

I don't know how to say this in another way. You could say it however you want to say it. Faultiness. Faultiness. We got the explicit rating. You could say whatever you want. Yeah, no. She just, it was one of the most incredible shots. And even though she didn't make the putt, that shot into the green intro, she's not afraid of the situation. I would say 99.9% of people would be going left.

And she was like, nope, Siga, like I'm gonna try to make it from the fairway. Yeah. You didn't push it a bit towards that far. Oh, no, I was gonna straight out of it because I knew I had to do something, but I think just like the emotions and everything, I started, you

know, you kind of like let loose all of it. But I was glad she was there, you know, she talks some sense into me because sometimes when like that happens, you kind of don't see like clearly, but. I remember watching that. That was like a really, really fun tournament to watch. Yeah. So many people that we root for in contention and whatnot. It was a really good tournament.

And no one lost it too. That's the thing. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so. Everyone was fighting their butt socks. I mean, you have a mentor, obviously, an interestinger, but I'm curious, no other, any other people out on tour

that have been kind of a some sort of mentor to you as you've come up as a youngster on tour. Not really. I mean, I have a lot of close friends. I mean, I've kind of Jess's group has kind of adopted me too. Hello, because Nilly's hanging out with my parents. But also, I also have a couple good friends out here. And Jess has been on tour since she's been 17.

So I've kind of been going, like, whatever she's kind of learned, she comes back home and like, we talk about it. Because it's always something I've wanted of been going like whatever she's kind of learned she comes back home and like we talk about it because You know, it's always something I've wanted to do. I mean ever since I qualified for the open At 14 it's kind of really something that I was aiming towards Anything you find especially the different than what you were expecting after it now having some experience out here No, not really. I mean I played on Symmetra for a year and that was really hard but I do think everyone should go through that because then they appreciate everything so much more like being out here and

you know traveling and all the fans and playing these awesome golf courses hospitality. It gave me a lot of perspective because the longer you are somewhere you know, you start nitpicking. And I'm just like, Jessica, you should experience like what I've experienced. I mean, not saying that it's bad, it's just you appreciate the LPJ so much more because just going through that experience, I mean, you go to towns like no one's there and it's just like there's one hotel

and then there's one restaurant and you're eating at this restaurant, seven days straight. And you're just like, I can't wait to go home. Like some events I was like, I didn't even mind if I missed the cut because I was like, I just wanna go home. Like, it teaches you to travel each week

and all that stuff. She's been out literally since, I qualified for my first year as open when I was 15 in 2008 and she was there. So's been out literally since, I qualified for my first year as open when I was 15 in 2008 and she was there. So literally since then, like, Nellie's been in every single locker room, like wherever I could sneak her in, I would. And been traveling to tournaments.

She came one year, she did like one or two weeks with me out on the road. She got, oh, I went to New York for, what was it? Wegmans. Back then it was Wegmans. So, you know, she kind of got to experience it without experience. Yeah, exactly. So kind of already like new. Yeah.

Do you on tour right now, do you think, do you think people see you as Nelly Corta, Jessica Sister? And is there any kind of motivation to you know extra motivation to really make a name for yourself aside from that? I feel like I'm always gonna be I mean Jess is always gonna be Peter Cortez daughter and I'm I mean the same but I'm more of like Jessica Cortez little sister so I'm always gonna have that kind of like title next to my name but I think I'm more of like Jessica Cordes' little sister. So I'm always gonna have that kind of like title next to my name, but I think I'm kind of forming a name of myself.

I mean, the finishes that I've had in the past year and a half help, but you know, obviously it is motivation to keep trying to make a name for myself and get people to know like me as Nelly Corda. Sure. Jessica, you are somewhat infamous for having fired a caddy mid-round and putting a boyfriend on the bag and that's the face of somebody who's been asked about this many times. I have to know that I don't know the story. What does a caddy have to do to get fired mid-round? Guys, cadding is not that difficult. You know, it's just a lot of it is personality. There's certain things that I expect every player I hear expects. And same in a job, there's

only so many times a boss can tell you, you know, we need to do this differently. And there's only so many chances that you get. And you have to take note that at majors, at majors, everyone's stress and it's high strong. I had a lot on the line that week. It was in just a major. I had Swahine points on the line. It was the first time that I, you know,

was could make the team and they doubled the points at majors. And so and I was inside all of that. I had a lot of going on and I needed somebody to be there for me and at the time it just it wasn't going that way and I had multiple talks with my team that if it isn't the way that it needs to be then we need to make a switch mid-round. Mind you three other girls had had cdy firings that week, but nobody's was as you know publicized as mine was. But the caddy is, you know, we're still friends. I ask about his kids all the time, we get paired together all the time.

He caddy for one of my best friends and so we played a ton of practice rounds. There's no hard feelings. This is something that happens out here all the time. It's just super unfortunate that people were so interested and they weren't even interested in like who was winning the tournament. And I'm pretty sure I got asked to go on a couple of, news stations the next morning in New York City to talk about it.

And I'm like, seriously, like, it's not that big a deal. That's kind of why I asked. You know we talk with Lydia Koto about her highly publicized caddy changes in Danielle too. It's not a big deal. It's not as big of a deal amongst you guys as people make it out to be. And it happens a lot after majors. Yeah. Well after majors it is. It happens a lot. Ten minutes run high. This is our job. If you're not there, 100% arguments happen. It's sports. It is what it is.

People from the outside, they like to judge and have their own opinions about it. But unless you're there right there in the heat of things, you will never understand what's going on. Four of your five wins have come outside of the US. Why do you hate America so much? That is so mean! I don't. Is there any one of those five wins that means the most? Not really. Each one of them means something else. Obviously, I think a lot of them are first of end of the year,

which is definitely something to think about. I would say, each golf course was so different. My feelings were different. In 2015, I had such a bad, 14. Yeah, 2015. No, 2015. 2015, I had such a bad year. I didn't even know if I would get into Malaysia.

And I ended up winning the tournament. Like, something clicked. I had took a couple of weeks off before it, and something clicked. And then JT went, was there like the week after that. And I was like, look, I'm sending you a lot of good Juju. And he would send me my picture of the, me winning in my score card.

And then he ended up winning. And same thing kind of this year at the, in Thailand. That was the first time I had one in front of any member in my family, which was cool to have, you know, Nelly there. And JT was playing that afternoon, I guess, because of the time change I was extending. You good, JT. On that note, I'm supposed to ask you

where you want your banner to hang in the gym in relation to JT and Michelle. I told him that we need to like have the, like us on his side of the wall because it's not fair that we have to be so far away all the time. This is all they're gonna apply to YouTube. None of us else have seen it. It's just so.

JT has like own wall and DJ has his own wall going and like we're so far away and we're like but we want to be right there. We're like, JT put JT on our wall because even Brooks is on our wall. Yeah, okay. So I was like, come on. Good to know, we may have to do a tour of that sometime. So, all right, we kept you guys for a long time and it's a major week, so thank you for taking the time. Thanks for having us.

Of course, best of luck this week. We'll get some more sweaters in the mail to you. Yeah, too. We'll get you some. We'll get you towels. We'll merge you guys out. So thank you very much and best luck this week. Thank you. Thank you. It's going to be the right club.

Be the right club today. That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most.