No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 161: Justin Thomas

Episode Date: August 20, 2018

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I'm gonna be the right club today. Yeah! That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! So Tuesday throwing out the first pitch, it rigly. Mm-hmm.

Wednesday, Fallon, Thursday, no laying-out podcast. What's the biggest deal of the week? Um, in terms of order that I knew of them happening, I'm going to go with the Fallen you and then the first pitch. So how'd that play out? Yeah, I was just going to the game, it regularly with my girlfriend and then two people that work at my management. And yeah, we know a couple of guys in the team. So I went and saw them beforehand and then kind of down in the field before.

I'd never been to regularly. So I was kind of taking it all in. And there was about 1240 and they were like hey do you do you want to go out the first pitch and I was like what do you what you don't have that figured out yet yeah I was like I thought they were joking because I'm like you this is like one of the things you have planned sure I was like I don't know and then everyone's like yeah come on just do it and I was like all right whatever I'll do And then everyone's like, yeah, come on, just do it. And I was like, all right, whatever I'll do it.

They're like, okay, be back in 15 minutes. I'm like, what? So I've no warm ups. No, not throw anything. Anything in the open or anything. So I went and had a beer. That was all I had. I was like, okay.

Did you fire a strike? I didn't. No. It was way too much in my head that I was going to throw it in the dirt and it did not go in the dirt. Did you air mail them? Oh, yeah. I haven't seen the clip yet, but for good reason.

Well, first off, we gotta address this. You are getting absolutely fleeced on cart fees, by the way. How about that? $200, what's going on here? What are you spending $900 in the pro shop for also? Yeah, you know, I care about my family and my friends, so I guess I was just getting a lot of good gifts for them for Christmas or something. I know you know, it's, I like to, I care about my family and my friends. So I guess I was just getting a lot of good gifts for them for Christmas or something. I know you've got money now, but I feel like you can get some of this, you get a better

deal on some of this stuff. But usually I don't love talking, I'm asking other, like players about other players, you've been on several times. So we've done your background and all that. We got to talk about the last week's PGA championship. You had a front row seat to kind of the resurgence of Tiger. And this is obviously a very big deal in the golf world. But you've got a relationship with Tiger. You've formed one over the last few years. It's got to be, I imagine it's interesting you're being what you're 25 now. So you grew up watching him and now you're friends with him.

What's the genesis kind of of your guys relationship though? Yeah, our friendship, it's really, it's cool and every once in a while I just kind of have to pinch myself a little bit just because that's, I don't know how it really happened. I mean, I just kind of reached out to him a couple years ago when he was hurt and I wanted to talk to him about Augusta and he wasn't playing and so he was more than happy to help since he wasn't in the field. And yeah, we just, I don't know, we just kind of got along our personalities kind of mesh pretty well.

And we're both competitive. But yeah, I mean, I just grew up watching him. And I feel like he is the reason I am where I am now or the reason that I started loving golf as much as I did. And it's just, I really enjoyed the opportunity to try to learn from anybody. reason I am where I am now or the reason that I started loving golf as much as I did. And it's just I really enjoyed the opportunity to try to learn from anybody not necessarily him. I mean guys like Phil or Davis Love or whoever it may be.

I ask them so many questions because I just feel like if I can get pull one thing out of a conversation of 20 things they say, then maybe I can use it to help me. And you know, he's not quite as open as he was when he was hurt. I'm gonna say, the things changed since the last year or so when he's returned. Yeah, a little bit. I mean, if I get him in the right, you know, the right spots, then he'll still, you know, be pretty normal with me. But it's, yeah, we're not exactly going through a bunch of different shots that he knows

before. I guess I like it. we were a couple of years ago. When was it clear to you that he was going to be back in a big way? I mean, it was, you had a front row seat kind of in the early stages of it. Yeah, when we first started playing, when he was back, and I mean, I was never going to say anything to anybody just because you don't know what's going to happen, but I mean, I told my family, I was like, if he stays healthy, I think I'll win this year just because he had the speed back. You could tell he just, he really, he really wanted to and he wants to make that rider

cup team so bad. And he made that very apparent from the beginning of the year, which is pretty cool to see that he's played this well and given himself a very, very, very real. He's earned it, John. Exactly. He's good to be on the team. It's not something to where it's like, very, very, very real. He's earned it, John. Exactly. He's good to be on the team. It's not something to where it's like, oh, we're picking Tiger Woods. It's like we want to pick him because he's playing top five

player in the world kind of thing. Yeah, absolutely. So it was cool to see that whole transition. But I mean, the most important thing is he's healthy, and he seems to be having fun, which is cool. Well, and you know halfway through that first round, you guys are paired together in the PGA championship. It just looked like, you know, at least those first few holes, you got to a hot start,

he's struggled in the start. And it was just like, man, all right, we can't get too excited about that. Like he's, you know, he's playing well, but like clearly he's not on JT's level right now. And then he just like rallies and just fires off what he did was that. I mean, it's not a course that probably set up that great for him. Were you surprised to see him struggling the beginning or were you surprised to see him turn it on or what did any of that part of the process surprised you. Yeah, it just was really was just kind of two holes.

I mean, he, I mean, 10, we started on probably the hardest one in the golf course and 8, or 820 in the morning, that rough, he missed the fairway on that hole. You weren't going to be able to get to the green. So making Boogie there wasn't a big deal, but yeah, the doubly made on 11 was bad. He just did it, not a either one, the smart shot or just not a good shot right here in the water. And then he just did what he does so well, just kind of plots his way back. And it's really, really fun to watch playing tournament golf with them.

Just the up and downs, you know, that's how he grinds on those four and five footers. And, you know, I remember reading when I was a kid, how he treats every three, four or five footer like it's to win the golf tournament because you never know, come Sunday if it is. And he really does. And he makes so many of them.

He just makes those par saving puts when he used to and yeah, he had a great back-known on Thursday that realistically kept him in tournament. Sounds like you're still learning from him on the golf course and you're a major champion now, you've made your own way but you're still picking up things in the middle competition from him. But for your own perspective on the PGA championship,

you had a great week or kind of what was your major takeaway the week? Do you feel, and obviously you won it last year, did you feel was there sense of disappointment in not closing the deal this year? You walk away, I forget what you finished exactly. Tide-sick. Tide-sick. So, do you walk away feeling accomplished

after that week or how's that go? A little bit of both. I mean, I was really disappointed with my finish just because I felt like, I mean, I couldn't believe starting 4 back to Brooks, let alone anybody else that I had to put on 9 to take the lead. It was pretty insane. And obviously I had a bad 3 put there on 9 but then made great birdies on 10 and 11 and

that was just like, I'm right back in this thing. And I was so comfortable and I was so comfortable, and I was so, the adrenaline was pumping, you know, I felt, I felt like I was gonna have a great chance to win, and I just, you know, I hit good shots there, I hit a good up and down on 12, and hit a really good shot in the 13, and just kind of misread a putt.

And then 14 just took all the win out of my sales, and that was a bummer to finish those last five holes, how I did, but my first title defense in a major, you know, given myself a chance on Sunday, I was pleased with that part. I mean, we talked, you came on the pod last year, right after you won the PGA. We made a, I made a rule that you had,

you weren't allowed to come back on until you won the masters, but we were willing to break it for this. Thank you, appreciate it. You're welcome. How different was the, like, how different did quail feel versus Bellarive on the weekend with all that was going on all around? How different was that?

It was a lot different, but the crowds at Quail were unbelievable too. And I mean, I don't know, it's unbelievable just the crowds that come to the PGA. You know, all the majors are obviously great, but somehow some way the PGA just always seems to get it just a massive showing. This year was for a little different reason,

but I just remember it quail like last year, coming up those 16, 17, 18 tolls and just looking around and being, it's 20, 30 deep walking out. And it just was, That was 17th hole, there was a lot of people. Unbelievable. And so that feeling was a little similar, but I mean, just the buzz and the air with all

that was going on in the potential history and the potential storylines and it changed for me to go back to back. I mean, there was a lot going on. So walk me through the 11th hole on Sunday. It's probably as you took you this long. I wanted to kind of set the scene a little bit here, but what happened? Your 11th hole teased up. You know you're going to get roasted by me on Sunday. It's probably as you took you this long. I wanted to kind of set the scene a little bit here, but what happened? You're 11th hole T is up. You know you're going to get roasted by me on Twitter. If you lay up, so you go for it, right? Yeah, it was, it was a tough pin. It was a really, it was a great, great setup. I mean, I carried, always does an unbelievable job. I feel like with the PGA, with

the course setups, you know, they moved it up on Friday and they kind of had to pin a little farther back. It was easier pin, a lot easier pin to wedge it to. We talked about it, I was just, I was hitting it really, really well. Jimmy was, he was probably 60, 40, 70, 30 of me laying up just because of, it wasn't as easy of a chip if you missed it in the left rough as it was before. Yeah, Friday, right.

It was really easy up and down there. Yeah, you just hit it over there and you kind of you're chipping up the green. But it was just a perfect three with number as far as the ball was the one. I think it was like two 98 hole or something and I know if I had a good three when I was gonna land it right at the base that hill and and I just felt like at that point the tournament I had a chance if I make a two. Yeah, it's huge. It's gasp. Yeah, I was never gonna if I make a two. It's huge. It's gasp.

Yeah, I was never going to make a worse than a four, hitting land up. And I mean, my wedge game has been really good the last month. I was probably going to have inside of 10, 12 feet. But to me, I felt like it was worth the risk. It wasn't going to go right, because I could make birdie somehow from left. And yeah, I hit a little double cross there.

And yeah, I had someone happening get in the way. Yeah. I was going to say first you struck the perfect pose. I mean, that was like the Jerry West moment. I could overlay the two images and it would be it would be the same one first and one you think you're the logo, you're not the logo. But anyways, so I know I'm not.

Okay, it really nailed somebody they didn't cover that on TV. I just assumed that it hit somebody, but what happened? Yeah, I hit someone right in the head. Oh, really? I actually didn't know that. I was, yeah. I did. It was, yeah, he was, I guess, like just left of the path.

It was probably 10 yards, like kind of from the, where the gallery is and, yeah, I didn't hear it or see anything, because it was pretty far left. And walking up there in the rules of officials, like, hey, he's like, you hit someone. Just wanna let you know we have someone come in. I guess he's bleeding a little bit,

but we have someone he's fine and everything. And I'm like, oh, jeez, not again. I guess. I guess an experience in this matter. And I go to my bag and see that I didn't have any gloves left. You didn't have any gloves left? No, I'd given some. It was so hot that pretty much every day when I was done warming up, I would just throw

them out. Yeah. And luckily on Jimmy's side, I kind of keep some extra balls gloves for scoring whatever it is. So yeah, we, I get up there, the usual sonic love form, we got his information to, because I, you know, if he has any kind of medical stuff like that, I mean, I want to take care of it.

But he was good, he was in good spirits, and I was glad to see you, he was okay. Well, I mean, there's so much going on that they kind of, it was, the broadcast is jumping in and out of what happened So I actually didn't know that that whole story behind it But so you're up under that tree you're not you're not in the good position at all what what else happens Well, yeah, I actually have a good picture to that someone sent me that I'll show you. It's a picture from They're down below because I mean the guys just sitting there and like I had to move the gallery and actually

They're down below because I mean the guys are sitting there and like I had to move the gallery He's actually Kicked like 20 yards back and left like behind two trees and that was we're walking up there the world's officials Like well the good thing is like we've heard word you're fine like you you have a shot And I'm like oh great and I get up there. I'm like What's like behind two trees like I got it in this rut? Yeah, it's bad But I had to move everybody but it was kind of on a bank and he was sitting there, I'm like, dude, like you're fine.

Like I'm not gonna hit Jig Ann, I'm going a little different route here. So he was able to stay there, but it was, yeah, that was a pretty unbelievable up and down, cause I, again, I'm just trying to make four at that point, and I just, I had an eight iron, I felt like if I kind of hit a low one and landed it, just on that down slope,

it could kind of get enough momentum to go up the hill. But if I landed too far on the upslope, then it wasn't going to bounce up. And I just needed to get on the other side of the hole, try to get it 15, 20 feet. My partner was feeling pretty good that day. And just kind of one of the things that luckily just went in there, you know, eight feet knocked it in. Well, what happened between, you know, I don't know when it happened, but didn't something happen with a scoreboard posting?

Yeah, yeah, I was reading my putt, and I was kinda like, I'm reading it, and the view I was on, there was a scoreboard kind of right there, and they took, cause I think I was at, I was at 11 under, and I think Tiger was at 10, and they took the Zero off and the crowds kind of waiting, but I mean I'm not paying attention

I'm reading my putt and then they put the 11 up so that everyone knew me to birdie and they went not What scoreboard keeper does that? Well somebody's about to putt and now and So I just kind of like had a regroup and just kind of walked around the hole and That was a huge butt for me I end up making it and I was like, you know that after all that happening and I just kind of felt like I got a lot of momentum Yeah, you walked that one in and that was yeah that up and down to pull you back to it, but So after your does Tiger was behind you, right? Yeah, too What do you do like after you're after your finish? She's exhausting for a day

Do you care who wins behind you? Are you paying attention to that? What's your next step? Yeah, no, I was looking at the leaderboards all day, because I want to know where I was. And I mean, once I got to 16 and made Bogey there, I knew I pretty much didn't have a chance. I felt like if I went Eagle Birdie and posted, then I'd have a slim chance, but I could at least finish top two or three.

But then just kind of went par par those last two holes. And then as soon as I got in, I was signing my scorecard and I saw Brooks hit it to like eight feet on 16. And I was just like, all right, this is done. So it was pretty cool to see Tiger, you know, birdie 18 like that. Yeah, Twitter was a bit of buzz about something about you guys, what you and Shane Lowry on the 16th always lining up a drop. You clarified that was there was no issue

between you guys, right? It's just a ruling. No, yeah, it's, I mean, Shane being the player and he wants to make sure he's getting the proper drop. And yeah, he didn't have a good tee shot over there to the right and I hit one just right on the green and he had a rules official come.

And I guess the rolling he was getting just didn't really make sense. So he called another official over and then that took a little bit of time. And I mean, I didn't have a very good lie. So I'm just kind of like looking at it and I feel like I was over reading it. So I'm kind of just start walking around a little bit. And then the rules officials kind of couldn't figure out what the deal was. So Shane's like, guys, like I just need to know here and because they kind of kept talking it was just taking a while and

it just was an unfortunate time of the day for that because I you know I kind of had some, I just made an unbelievable about 30 footer for par on 15 trying to keep this momentum going and so finally I was just like, hey I'm I'm just gonna go guys it was nothing against Shane. Yeah. Just was the the timing of it it and wishing it didn't take so long. Yeah. All right. This is a tough one. The the globalist at Calloway are forcing me to say this.

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in limited quantities online and at retail starting this Friday, August 24th. So visit calaway golf.com for more info, pick yours up before they're all gone and now let's get back to our podcast with JT. So going all the way back, I think we chatted last right before you, or you're getting ready to take off, I guess, for the FedEx cup and for the, for the president's cup. The president's cup was your first team event as a pro, and not to get too much back to Tiger,

but I think that's kind of where things started to change for him and that, I heard so much feedback from, you know, the media was saying, how much of an effect that kind of week had on him. What was it like to have Tiger in that team room and the presence of my nose assistant captain, but just kind of everyone deferred to him in that room? A little bit.

It's nice because since he's a vice captain, you're like, hey, Tiger, I need another sandwich. Can you go get me that? So does he actually do it? He takes it very seriously. He'll do whatever we need, you know, to do an extent. He knows that most of the time we're just messing with him, but it's yeah, it's good fun and he takes it very, very seriously, which is even cooler. Did anything about that first team experience surprise you? I mean, it's my favorite things to

point out. I know that you've never played in a rider cup. We're going to get there. But with that first team experience, the presence cup, anything there surprise you. Not really. It just I think because I've been to a couple rider cups with my dad working in the PGA and like I'd seen him. I mean, I watched so many of them and I have so many friends that have played in a bunch. I don't know. I just, I felt like I somehow knew what I was getting myself into. And I don't know, it was a blast. It really was. I mean, we played some really,

really good golf that weekend. It was very enjoyable. It was, it was dominant. So how does, how does that experience relate to the Ryder Cup? I mean, it's a similar group in charge. It's going to be made up a lot of the same guys. And how involved are you, again, you're a rookie, but how involved are you in the process of, like, who's going to be filling out those final four spots on the team, who's pairing, who has that process started yet, or what goes on there from your perspective

as a rookie that's already made the team? Yeah, I talked to Jim a couple times. I talked to him during the week of the French, because he want to know what I thought of the course or about it. I talked to him afterwards, kind of want to go through hole by hole after he went and played it. But yeah, I mean, like for Presence Cup,

we kind of would talk as the picks were, that process was going strict with Collison. He'd ask us what we thought, ask in an an ideal situation who are ideal pairings who would we want to play with not one play with whatever it may be and Because it is a big deal, but he that they want to get as much information as possible So they can all kind of dissect it and get together and and kind of create the best teams and how did for the president's cup You and you play with burger you played with Ricky, right? So, is it more, what matters more to you? Kind of similarity in style of play or just kind of friendship,

like wanting to play with buddies? How does that, what are you favor in that regard? For me, I want to know the person's game and I want them to know my game. I think I was something that Rick and I did so well and Boug and I just, Boug, that was just kind of a random thing, you know, like, Strict came up, he was like, hey, do you want to play with Boug and I was like,

I love to. I mean, Boug's got that demeanor, he doesn't care, and he played some unbelievable golf that day. Because I wasn't, I didn't have my best off and I was, I was running out of gas and I, I was glad to have him. You were screaming with your, like, running around with your head cut off. Yeah, I was a heck of a hype man that day. But we need to print Bugs quote after Saturday and frame it in our house or something. He said something along the lines of, yeah, I mean, I hope we go out and beat him even worse tomorrow.

You guys are up like 14 and a half to two and a half or something like that. I hope we go out and beat him even worse tomorrow. So you mentioned you played the the Ligolf national at the French Open this year, were you more surprised? Were you surprised all that more Americans didn't go over and play that event as well? Yeah, I wasn't sure. I mean, I knew it was the thing about it is being kind of in the middle of the season, you know, it wasn't too long before the British.

And for me, it worked out well because I was going to have those three weeks off in the States. So, and I don't want to take three weeks off before major. So I, I felt like it was a good opportunity to go see the course, but the field is going to be really good for World Ranking. It's a Rolex Series event. It's a great purse. It's a great opportunity. I felt like it would have maybe set a little bit of a statement if I went over there and won a European Tour event there and you know I want to I want to win in as many different countries places, continents, whatever it may be as I can and that just it would have been really cool. I felt like to go over there and play well but it did work out well. I mean Paris was unbelievable. Versailles was incredible. It was a really, really fun week. I'm glad I went.

Let's just say it's a really tricky part in the schedule, either, guys. You don't go play for events in a row. You don't go play French Irish, Scottish, and then the British. And you don't really want to go over, come back, and go over. Which is what you did. But I got a lot of questions where the re-surprise

at More Americans didn't go over. But I said, if you really want to see the golf course, you can go over for a day or two. Which guys did? I went before the British. And it's gonna play differently in September. Exactly. It's like going to play Augusta in December. It's like, yeah, it's cool to go play Augusta,

but are you really getting that much prep for the Masters? No, it's just, so I felt like playing it in tournament competition. I just felt like it would help me a lot. All right, so take us to the golf national. What's the golf course like for those that haven't seen it? And is it something? I think it's gonna be quite different than

what the setup was at Hazelteen and whatnot, but what do you think and after seeing that golf course? It's a great course. I really enjoyed it. I hit seven drivers in four rounds. So it's very, very narrow. I mean, I remember walking around there

and I was sending pictures to Jordan and Rick and I was just like, guys, like, okay, you guys are gonna be. Yeah. I was like, all right, so who gets the odds? There it is. There's a lot of water on the course and it's a cool little layout. It is. You really, it was windy a lot of water on the course and it's a cool little layout.

It is. It was windy a couple of days. You had to flight the ball. It hit different shots. It was a lot of crosswinds. It was never straight in or straight down. It was kind of okay. You had to hold because the fairways were so narrow, you can never really ride the wind

and get it curving. You had to try to hit as straight as possible. You had to do a lot of working ride the wind and get it curving. You had to try to hit it straight as possible. So you had to do a lot of kind of working it against the wind. And I feel like, you know, being a good ball striker was something that I really enjoyed about the golf course. And it's not a links course by definition, but it plays like a links course, right? In some way, it's probably the firm soil,

firm ground, or is it play more target golf like America's golf? A little bit of both. Okay. I mean, the greens were, the greens were somewhat receptive as the week went on. They got a little bit firmer, but yeah, the fairways were, they could get firm. If it was firm, I mean they'd be extremely difficult to hit and then coming into those greens, you need to be out of the fairway. So it just was, you know, I hit a lot of, a lot of five irons, a lot of four irons off

tees. I hit a lot of three woods, holes that I felt like I could hit driver, but just wasn't necessary kind of thing. Sounds like a good Tiger course, not gonna lie. Yeah, it does. It's definitely a ball striker to off course. Did you have any one major takeaway something you learned about what you need to do while you're there, other than that kind of style off the tee any major one take away.

Not really. It's, yeah, it really is. It's just right in front of you. It's not like it was something where like, okay, man, I know that if I can't get there, I got to be over here kind of thing. It's like it's just right in front of you. You see the hole. You kind of know where the wins at.

You know where the pin is. And it's just, there's a couple holes you can play different strategy wise. Like, I know a couple of guys that were behind me were just kind of hitting driver everywhere, but I didn't really see that when I was playing it. And so I guess there is some opportunity, but for the most part, it's just right in front of you. The Ryder Cup courses are not typically not trying to trick you. They're setting up for a good theater from match plays.

It's going to be great too. Yeah. That's first T is going to be probably unlike anything or Ryder Cup's ever seen. I can't wait to see what Reed does. It's going to be unreal. So I mean, obviously so much gets made about you and Jordan, the buddy's saying all that we're like a million times past that. But it's going to come up again here in the coming weeks when it comes to partnerships. And obviously he's paired very well with Reed. Do you guys foresee a chance that you guys might play together or you mentioned his name

there and you mentioned Rick's name there? Is that kind of where you guys see things falling out? Yeah, I mean, the thing that I like about myself in these team competitions is I really do feel like I could pair with a lot of people. I mean, I don't want to play with someone that I don't, if they have a different golf ball, if it's completely something that I have no experience with something like that, but I mean, that goes the same for everybody. But yeah, I mean, guys like Jordan and Ricky, I know their game really well. So Jordan,

I've always talked that we want to play at some point, and we will at some point, whether it's this year or next year or five years. I mean, I'm very confident that we wanted to play at some point, and we will at some point, whether it's a year or next year, or five years. I mean, I'm very confident that we're going to have some success in these team events together. But it's just hard to separate those two. They've done so well. And as long as they keep winning points,

I'm perfectly fine. It's somebody else. It is tricky. You do have an interesting twist to it. I always wonder if that happened. If you and Jordan play together, where does Reed play with? And I could see he and Tiger being a really good four ball team. And I think I know they played different golf balls.

And you mentioned the different golf ball. How important is that to you in alternate shot to be paired with somebody that you play the same golf ball? Yeah, it is. But it's nice because at the presence cup, and I assume it's the same with the rider cup, but you just kind of hit the other person's ball off the tee. So it's like Ricky would hit my ball off the tee so that coming into the green with

irons, I was hitting my ball, something I was comfortable with, and then he was just putting with it. Yeah, it's a little different putting it is crazy as it is. I mean, golf balls feel different off the putter face and a strict even made that comment that, you know, his speed was, he often had to put with Tiger's ball a lot because he couldn't get the speed down right away because it was softer and felt like he just couldn't get it to the hole which it sounds bizarre it sounds ridiculous but it is true I mean Rick's balls a little softer than mine that the cover was so I kind of had

some chips with it some puts with it but I mean both teams are going to the same stuff yeah it's not just us. Yeah, you just reminded me that I remember I forget who it was, that somebody was going through and equipment change and they were on the putting green and practicing with their new equipment and they're falling like a 20 foot putt, they said the new equipment rolled two inches less. Like I could tell, there was a two inch difference in the in the club. I don't get that extra. I know. I was like, God, Lee, you guys are so incredibly dialed in. And also since you were last on, you won in Boston, you guys are so incredibly dialed in.

And also since you were last on, you won in Boston, you went on to win the FedEx Cup, the $10 million prize that goes with that. This was just about a month or so after winning the PGA championship. How does playing for that kind of cash compare to competing and winning a major championship, the kind of pressure? You know, and you believe me or not, if you want, but I really didn't feel any different. I think the fact that I had a chance to win the golf tournament helped because I was not thinking about the Fed.

I scooped it all. I just wanted to win that fifth, I guess. Yeah, my fifth time, I think. You won five times last year, so that would have been six. OK, I wanted to win that sixth time, because I think I read something that like, only one other person had done that or something, I think it was Tiger, I don't know whatever it was,

but it was something to where I knew, it just, it, man, it would have felt really good to close off the year like that. I mean, yeah, it was obviously unbelievable when in the FedEx Cup, not winning the Torch Ampuchip, I don't care if I finished 30th in Atlanta, if I still in the FedEx Cup, that's great, but, capping that week week that year off with the win would have been pretty special. And, I don't know,

I just didn't really think about too much. I mean, when you, you kind of look up, you see the boards. I got the projected scoring all the time. And it's pretty crazy. I remember looking up at one point in the beginning of the back nine and Jordan and I were tied. And that just, they have the projected standings out there. Wow, I didn't realize that. Yeah, they have projected in every tournament we play. I mean, obviously it's not as important, but it's, yeah, you get to Atlanta and you kind of look up

and the projections are up and you see, you know, whatever how many points ahead or behind. And yeah, one point we were tied for first for the FedEx Cup. It's like, man, would be some some unbelievable TV. Well and it's you know to a lot of people that don't play for for money it's easy to kind of get lost and you guys make a lot of money play for a lot of money but the difference between you and the PGA and it's about two million versus now you're playing for tent like that is a enormous you know this

difference and I you mentioned the kind of distraction of trying to win the tournament, but that's why I was just wondering if there's an amount of money that would matter to you, like to play for, that would make you nervous in that regard. Like, does it make a difference if you're playing for 20 versus 10 million? I don't know, I've never, yeah. But the thing is, is like, I mean, I've been just as nervous when I go out and have a match with some buddies, and we're, you know, we're playing for whatever we're playing for. It's not, there's everything is I mean, I've been just as nervous when I go out and have a match with some buddies and we're playing for whatever we're playing for. It's not, everything is on a different stage

or a different level. But I just feel like when you're, I've never really thought about money when I'm out there playing just because I'm so worried about just winning. And I feel that over the course of my career, I'm gonna be fine financially and I don't wanna, I just, I'm not out there for that, I'm out there to win as many terms as I can.

But I've been fortunate to where I've never been out there and like, oh man, I need to, if I don't win this, I cost myself this much money kind of thing. That's, I remember, and it, as much as, it sounds like a kind of media-ish answer or public answer, but I remember asking you about it after you won it, and you were like, dude, I honestly really don't care about the money that much.

And you know what, it didn't sound like lip service, but I remember even either you were rookie, or what year did you finish like third at Sawgrass? It was like your rookie year or your second year? It was. No, my second year. Second year, I remember I was, I asked you, I was like, you know, you just won like 500 grand.

What's that like? And you're just kind of like, yeah, I kind of plan to make a lot of money. It's not the big of a deal. So it's just, what's that like? And you're just kind of like, yeah, I kind of plan to make a lot of money. It's not the big of a deal. So I find that interesting, but I mean, has your life in what way or has it changed since you won $10 million? Yeah, I mean, it's, I've definitely done some things

that I probably wouldn't have done. I mean, the most enjoyment I get out of it is taking care of my friends and family. I mean, going on trips, we did a little family vacation last year to the Bahamas and just like, and not having to worry about it. And I just, I don't know, I've always enjoyed being able to take care of the people

that I'm closest to the most. It's just, it's really fun to me. I don't have any crazy hobbies or stuff. I don't love cars. I mean, I have one car and I have another one coming, but it's like, I don't have any desire to have six cars or like I'm fortunate to where I'm sponsored by Rolex and I have watches with them. It's like I'm not Outspending my money in a bunch of different ways, but it's so to me I get more enjoyment out of just kind of

Blown and out on a weekend with some of my best friends than anything else and that's what you know We talked to the Ernie L's a little bit about that too. It's kind of like he's in his late 40s, still grinding out their playing. And often he's made top five probably Ernie's in all time on the PGA tour, but people don't really fully realize you can do so. Like it's not all greed, it's not all for yourself.

You can do so much, you have so much family, you can take care of with fine and so much for charity. So much what he does goes to his charity and all that stuff. It's been fun too. Yeah, we've really, like one of the coolest things actually was just talking to my girlfriend about that is, I mean, eventually I want to have a foundation. I want to do something when something truly hits home

with me of what I want to do it with. But like last year, I was in Louisville for Thanksgiving and we went to Target and just bought like eight or ten thousand dollars worth of stuff And went to the boys and girls club at Louisville and just because I mean, you know those kids They don't get anything. I mean yeah, and it's like it was but I was actually there and was able to give it to them and And that was really cool. So just doing stuff like that where you know go into a random restaurant and you get away Trish or waiter that's really nice and just tipping them a couple hundred bucks just on a $10 tab.

So stuff like that to where you can just kind of make a little difference in someone's life or someone's day. It's cool, but it's, you know, I'm very fortunate to be able to do it. That's cool. So you had your insane 2017 season, you won five times, you won three times this year. How do you evaluate your currencies? And you're coming off a career breakout year?

You win three times, but it's not as good as last season. How do you look back at this year and say that was a great year? Yeah, that was definitely a great year. I think just not winning a major this year holds this year from being a great year. It's really the only difference. I mean, I feel I've definitely been more a great year. It's really the only difference. I mean, I feel I've definitely been more consistent this year. I've had a lot of really just kind of solid weeks. You know, I consider a top a top 10, 15, 20 sometimes a solid week. I

mean, it's not good by any means. I feel like if I play how I should or make the right decisions on the course, I should be in the top 10 or top five. But I just had a lot of weeks where I just haven't had my best stuff and I've kind of grinded out it. And those are huge come this time of year, you know, that's a difference from me being six or seventh in the FedEx Cup in second or being six in the world rankings instead of third. So it's like, that stuff is a big deal and I take a lot of pride and consistency, but it was funny because to myself, I put such an importance

on, all right, I want to make every cut this year. I wanted really finishing, I want to finish top 25 every event I play on, I want to finish top whatever many times. And then I'll be saying, I'm like, man, I haven't won. I feel like I haven't won in so long, or like, I feel like I haven't had a chance to win, like I'm kind of backdoring these eights or 11s or whatever it may be. And yeah, I just kind of praxed him for Akron. I was like, man, like I just want to win again and it just kind of happened. So that was, that was pretty fun.

One, one thing I've noticed too is just how you're, or in the early part of your career, it was you were very hit or miss. Like you would, you would have great weeks, but you would, you would, you would bottom out much more often than you currently do. And I think that I feel like in stroke play and like the way the PGA Tourists set up, that's an okay style to be kind of in and out. If you miss cuts, that's not that big of a deal. But you guys, especially the top players,

seem to take so much pride in making cuts. I mean, that's a way bigger deal than I think people make it out to be. Because you turn on the TV, you know, on the weekend, it's the top 10 guys and whatnot. But you got, it's, people don't see that Friday grind of like, I'm not going home for the weekend. Yeah, because you, because you can never know

what can happen on a weekend. You get some certain places. You know, I feel like a place like a traveler is a great example where it's, you know, the winning score at the tournament's always 13 to 16, 17 under, but like, two under makes the cut every year. It's just, it's one of those places where the scores kind of fluctuate a lot and you can make the cut, you know, by one or something like that.

And then all of a sudden you shoot 64 on Saturday and then 62 or three on Sunday and you have a chance to win. It's like, so just giving yourself a chance. Yeah, nothing pisses me off more than when I miss the cut and it's just, and you don't even yourself a chance. Yeah, nothing pisses me off more than when I missed a cut. And you don't even have a chance. And you've obviously had a great couple of years. But it took a bit of a time for your breakthrough to really come.

I say that with a perspective of one of your good friends, obviously, Spieth was busted out in a big way. That's a second time you've heard him. But trying to get to a certain point of it. It's so many levels along the way. You outperformed him, right? So at amateur levels, at different levels, and it feels like, I guess, was it difficult for you

to watch that knowing you were capable of it? And do you feel like you've gotten to a point where, all right, now I've really proven myself on this stage and belonged or deserved to be mentioned in the same sentence. I still don't think, I mean, he's won three majors. I know. I know, I've won one, and he's still one, I think he's won more times than I have on tour.

He is more accomplishments, but I've definitely making steps in the right direction. But yeah, I mean, there's a lot of people out here that I think just because of my last two years, I get mentioned in the right direction. But yeah, I mean, there's a lot of people out here that I think just because of my last two years, I get mentioned in the same sentence as when as a whole, I don't know if I deserve it quite yet. And which I'm fine with. It's like, look, I mean, I'm only on my fourth year on tour. And, you know, yeah, by my sixth, seventh, and eighth, and when I'm played as many as Roy or as many as DJ or as many as Jordan, I feel like I have the capability of having the same

accomplishments or more than they have. But for the time being, I'm very pleased with how I've progressed and gotten better each year. One of the more eventful things that happened to you this year was an incident at the Honda Classic that caused some social media waves. It almost seemed to overshadow the fact that you won the tournament. We've heard you tell the full story and snippets and press conference and whatnot, but for the sake of this podcast,

take us through what happened at the Honda Classical in the 16th hole, I think. Yeah, it was, you know, and I made it very well known after the fact, obviously wish I didn't do it. I overreacted whatever it may be, but yeah, it just said the cries of the Honda can get a little rowdy, you know, it's um, and little fret bro, a little bit.

Yeah, you know, it's exactly so it's um, you can tell that the drinks were flowing very late in afternoon and yeah, this guy had been kind of been needle in me a little bit and instill that that's gonna happen. I need to get over that fact, but uh, finally, it just was the fact that I just had enough and I just after he said that, I turned around and I was just like, dude, like you got to go. I just, I really, I'm trying to win a golf tournament here. I don't really care. And I handled it very poorly. I said that, but I shouldn't have done it at all. I mean, in retrospect, it's just one guy. And because of that one guy, I've created a lot more people that don't like me as opposed to one guy.

So it is what it is. I mean, if that's one of the worst things I do in my career, I'll be just fine. Well, the first question I had though is how often does something like that happen? Has that ever happened at any other point? I mean, the cameras picked it up is what really made it a big deal. But I mean, is that a totally unusual thing for a fan to get ejected or for you to ask to be a fan to be ejected or a fellow playing partner to request that from security of some way? You know, it's just to happen more lately.

It's because at these tournaments, you know, guys, they do that they get drinking so much and it's just like they kind of feel invincible on the other side of the ropes and look, I understand that the needling and stuff like that's gonna happen. And we do understand that. But it's just like when it's inappropriate or when guys are doing it like as we're over shots, or they're just, I mean, when it gets ridiculous, it's like there's just no spot, no place for that.

You know, I understand the hour athletes were adults, but it is golf. And I think, you know, people so often are like, well, you know, that's just typical golf being soft or whatever it is, but it's like, dude, like this people. Different sport. You people in football, basketball, baseball,

those players can't hear them, you know what I mean? Like, you think Tom Brady can really hear all this people that are dollocusting him in the stands? No, it's like, they're right there. They're right next to us. And it's like, when you start saying stuff about personally or I mean, I've heard, I mean, I remember it was so cool, at LA this year, this guy was just non-stop on me on 17.

And he just was, I mean, being so inappropriate and just rude. And finally, I just kind of like turned around on my two, like, it's good. And then he kind of, and then he turned around, of course, act like he wasn't there. And then he, and you and then he turned around, of course act like he wasn't there. And then he, and, you know, he didn't want to say it to my face. And I just kind of, you know, I looked at him and I kept going. And then he said it again.

And then Rory, I was playing with you. He was just, he came down and he was like, get this guy out of here. He's like, there's no, there's just no place for it. I understand that there's different tournaments and different moments that you can get routing. And, you know, you can be loud, but it's just, like you said, it is golf.

And it's a shame that it's kind of gotten that way. And yeah, I do wish that I had that moment over. Well, it's kind of an unforeseen fallout of the cell phones being allowed now. Is that people can film themselves yelling at a player and post it and like look up funny. Yeah. Yeah. Like there's people that I just go and harass players and stitch their video together and post it social media at the end of the day. Like I've

turned into somewhat popular social media accounts because of their harassing players and what. Yeah. And it's just kind of, I don't know. I know that you mentioned just golf kind of being getting a bad rap in that regard, but it's a sport where you guys need it to be quiet when you're hitting, like when I'm playing around, I don't want people yelling when I'm getting ready to hit. I don't want people taunting, like it's just not, it's not part of the game. It is, and you look at, I always look at Augusta.

Yeah, it's like, look, they don't sell liquor there, and people don't get out of hand, and people understand that if you yell, they'll kick you out, and you can't have cell phones and We never have any problems at Augusta and it's just um, it's unbelievable I saw a picture actually I I was shown tiger last week of a picture of him. Yeah last week Do you see that with all the phones? It's like these picture. Yeah, it's like what's it's unbelievable It's like why would you do this when you could just watch it live?

Yeah, you know, Rory and I were talking about that because tiger hit one offline and we were kind of looking back and everyone It's unbelievable. It's like, why would you do this when you could just watch it live? You know, Rory and I were talking about that because Tiger hit one offline and we were kind of looking back and everyone's got their phones and we're just like, this is unbelievable, man. It can't be good quality photos or video. It's like, what do you do with it?

You know, like what are you gonna, like wouldn't it be cool to just tell the story to your friends? Like, hey, I was right there as opposed to, here, look at this really crappy video I took that everyone's yelling and you can't really see anything. Yeah, well, and there's obviously a lot of fallout from it and what it's kind of that been like.

I mean, you feel like fans have turned on you I guess it stuck around, is it people get over it? What has that been like? Oh, no, people definitely haven't gotten over it. You know, there's certain accounts or certain people that make sure that they don't let them forget. And it is what it is. But I took that stuff very personally for a couple of weeks. I was struggling after that. It was the first time I'd really felt like I had people

hate me and rooting against me. And people still yell, getting the bunker to me all the time. At this point, it's just kind of funny. You got a steer into it at this point. Yeah. Well, it's just, it's one of those things. It's like, man, like, let it go. Is it really? That's in, and that's kind of what I was just surprised at. And it's hard because like, obviously, people accused me

of being a fanboy on your behalf or defending you. But I was like, dude, if, like, if Bubba injected somebody, like, I'd be like, yeah, that probably made, they probably deserved it. Like, I feel like that would make sense. And'd be like, yeah, that probably made, they probably deserved it. Like I feel like that would make sense. And I try to put everything through that realm of, I just felt like the reaction was just way, way, way too strong.

You can't say, like, oh, toughen up, like, oh, that's just golf and whatnot. And then treat such a very minor incident as if you, yeah, to get point. I hurt somebody, you know, or like, yeah, actually did something that was wrong. That's kind of the issue I have with it. Every once in a while, like, yeah, to get point hurt somebody, you know, or like, yeah, actually did something that was wrong. That's kind of the issue I have with it. Every once in a while, like I'll,

I try not to just like read the comments or read stuff of anything I post, but if you ever get some time, it's pretty entertaining because yeah, it always goes back to I'm surprised he didn't get that guy kicked out or did do this. It's like, dude, like I kicked that one guy. I mean, it's like I stabbed him with a trident and like escorted him off the golf course.

I was good to say. It's much funnier to joke about all the people that you clock in the head with your t-shirts. Yeah, I don't kick them out for me in the way or anything. I mean, geez, could be worse. All right, let's do a few more little random grab bag questions. All right, how much do you weigh?

About 160 pounds, right? Because they still on the brach,ach say 145 every single time. I figured that was not the case. Do you have one favorite stop on tour every year? I mean, how are we excluding majors here? I think so, yeah. Okay, yeah, I love the players. I love the memorial.

I love both of those Germans. Those are two that stick out to me. Yeah, sure. It's great too. From a fan I love both of those Germans. Those are two that stick out to me. Yeah. Charlotte's great too. Yeah. From a fan experience, both of those places are just such great viewing experiences. Do you kind of of, of all of your the majors you've played in, I feel like the open championship has been the one that's alluded to the most. Do you have any, why is that I guess? And do you have any future plans to maybe play more links golf and leading up to the open? Yeah, there's a pretty good chance I might go play the Scottish or something future plans to maybe play more links golf and leading up to the open?

Yeah, there's a pretty good chance I might go play the Scottish or something next year just because I love links golf. I truly do believe that I will win at least one or two British opens. I love that kind of golf. I feel I'm very creative. I feel that I can hit the shots but I just for some reason haven't performed very well. Yeah, it just so happens to be that, you know, the three years I played, I haven't been

and I've had three bad draws. And that's a part of the British Open, unfortunately, and it is what it is, but I mean, over a long career, that stuff hopefully will even out. But I don't know. I've really just had one kind of a couple bad holes the last two years. I mean, this year I had three consecutive holes where I made doubles, I've really just had one kind of a couple bad holes the last two years.

I mean, this year I had three consecutive holes where I made doubles. And it's just like, you can't do that in a major. And then two years ago, I made like a nine in a double or something. And it's like, and I missed the cut by one this year. And I missed it whatever by two the year before. So it's like, I'm taking myself out of these tournaments just in a couple holes just by doing something stupid. So it's like, I don't know.

I feel that we had a great game plan for Carnier Steve this year and I enjoyed it and I was playing pretty well. I just said three holes that killed me. That'll happen quickly out there. What do you love about Ling's golf? It's just so fun. I mean, you can play totally different courses even though you play the same course each day. You get different wins. This year was so fun because it was so baked out and so firm.

But I just, I love, you know, sometimes when it gets rainy, windy and you can hit a six iron from 130 yards, and you land in it, you know, 80 yards and letting it roll. I mean, that stuff is enjoyable to me. But yeah, in terms of the success, I've had it open. I don't know exactly what it is, but we'll get it figured out. Do you have a favorite links venue that you've played at?

Ever. I mean, what's your favorite? I had a feeling that was gonna be the one. What makes that one stand out? It just, it was awesome. I thought the, it just really, really liked it. I thought it was a beautiful course too, but I don't know.

I just remembered a lot of holes out there that I really enjoyed. And you know, that great, the 18th, great finishing hole and that 9th hole is just unbelievable, but that's interesting, because most, a lot of pros don't like blind shots.

And there's a lot of blind shots. Yeah, there are a lot of blind shots, but it's just, I don't know, I feel like it's just a very true links and Kings Barnes is pretty, pretty unbelievable too. It's definitely one of the prettiest links courses you've ever watched. Playing event at Kings Barnes? My first professional event was actually the Dunlinks. Dunlinks, yeah. So I played there. Who's a player that you've seen that's not in the mainstream discussion and you can kind of define that however, how whatever level you want that you were really impressed with.

The guy that should be on people's radar that is not on people's radar just yet. I mean, what kind of world ranking are we thinking? I mean, you can be 30 if you want. It could be as simple as people don't understand how good Zander Shoffley is or it might be. Yeah. Anything in that regard of like, I mean, but it sticks out to you, it's kind of like, got your attention. Maybe you played with or something that did something that really impressed you. Yeah.

Zander is definitely, I gave you that one. I know he is really good. I'm so, I'm just confirming that. But that was my takeaway from Malaysia, because you played with him in Malaysia, right? And I just, I was really impressed with his ball stroke. I was, I never played with him. Yeah. But, I mean, I'm biased, but I mean, I, I think once a guy like,

bud, Collie wins, I mean, just how good he hits it is, it's ridiculous. And we've played a lot of golf together. There's obviously one of my best friends, but but you know, I think when he comes back from this little accident, I think that he's obviously hungry now, but in someone like him, and Trey Mullen, Axe-Man, Trey is so good. And I think the Valera this year was huge for him, just getting a contention, having a chance to win.

But I think those are two kind of guys that once they win or once they get in contention more, I mean, Bud's had a lot of chances, but Trey is someone that he hits it so far and drives it so straight, and his ball striking is unbelievable that once he can just kind of touch up some of the other parts of his game,

I mean, he's someone like a, you know, like a Charles Howe that'll play 30, 25 years out here and just absolutely be an ATM because he's so good. In that realm, like are you, do you feel comfortable enough to be, or do you feel like enough of a veteran to go to him and be like, all right, here's what you need to clean up, here's what you need to get better. Do you give advice to people like that? For sure, for sure. I mean, someone like Bud knows, but portray, you know, this is I guess just his

second year. So any way that I can help him, you know, I like playing practice with him and he'll ask stuff about the course, but he's gotten better at knowing what he needs to do and you know, he's got a great, great caddy who's really good for him on his bag. And yeah, it just with Trey, sometimes you have to say it a couple of times to kind of get it to really sink in, but I think he's learning a lot. It's just, you know, the process is sometimes a little slow when it comes to learning. Obviously, Bloodhead was in the car accident there

with Memorial this past year, and you're one of your best friends in your roommate. What is that recovery process been like? I mean, what is, have you been up close in person on seeing it all and kind of take us through like from that day? I know that was, what is, have you been up close in personal seeing it all and kind of take us through like from that day? I know that was a really tough time for you all the way to now. It seems like he's made quite the progress.

Yeah, yeah, it's been good. And I mean, a lot of it is just kind of the swelling and everything just getting all that. His range of motion is good. And his ribs are healed, which was great. The surgery went well. But yeah, I mean, that was one of the toughest nights at that I had had in a

I mean since I could remember I think I got like an hour and a half asleep that night. I was on Friday night So I mean and then I had to go out and try to play golf on Saturday and Sunday and I was when When I went and saw him in the hospital on Saturday afternoon, it for some reason called me a lot. I think being able to talk to him and seeing him and just kind of seeing his charisma

and seeing that he was okay. He was all still there. Yeah, it just it helped. And because I didn't know what to expect when I went in there, I didn't know how he was going to be, if he was going to be mad. So it just it helped going in there and seeing him and I was able to kind kinda ease off a little bit.

But yeah, I mean, it's been a tough recovery form and I know he wants to get back out there but he's just starting to hit balls again, which is awesome. And I know I'm pumped to have him back out. So take us through, this'll be it last one but kind of what is, what is Jupe life like? Who are all the guys that live down here? I mean, I know I've kind of gotten a got a decent idea of it

But how does it work out? Who do you hang with the most down here? Who hangs with each other? What's it? How's it work out? Yeah, I mean, I hang bud and I do about everything together when we're home But I mean I hang out with Rick and Allison a bunch. I mean Brooks is down here DJ bug Patrick Cantlay Patrick, Kevin Tway. We got a couple of other buddies that are here that we hang out with, PDU Alliance here, Camillo, Keegan, John Kern, Jamie Lovemark. Geez.

And everybody at the Bears Club. Yeah, pretty much, I mean, you have Rory's here. I feel bad, I'm leaving so many people out, but it's just- I think you mentioned Tiger. Yeah, oh yeah, Rory's here. I feel bad. I'm leaving so many people out, but it's just. It's like you mentioned Tiger. Yeah, yeah, I'm big cat. Yeah, it's, and it's great. There's just so many, there's always,

always games, which is nice, but do you have to schedule an advance or do you just show up at the Bears Club people are there? It's just kind of depends, you know. When, like off season, when it's, you know, just November, December, January, the one everyone's here and the, and the courses are good, then you're kind of, they're pretty often, if you take some of the night before, December, January, when everyone's here and the courses are good,

then you're kind of pretty often, if you take some of the night before, hey, you got a game, be like, already got something set up or whatever it may be. Everyone kind of has their groups that they kind of hang and play with, but yeah, it's always pretty easy to find a game. Who's the hardest, hardest guy to get on the golf course?

Just never, never, like, can't pull them out of and say, like, let's go play a game and they're like, yeah, I'm probably Brooks, Brooks. Yeah, he's never really, not that he's not a hard worker or anything, but he's always enjoyed his downtime. Yeah, and I've gotten a lot better at that. I mean, I like not really touching a golf club for a little bit when I'm off.

And I mean, he just kind of works out, I'll go out in the boat, he'll just hang out. But yeah, he's not someone when he has an off week, he'll spend five of those days practicing. He may spend two or three and maybe go play, but he'll just kind of go hit balls for a couple of hours and take it easy and then he'll spend, kind of like I do, spend his time working on the on-site

that Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. What is your downtime? Like you mentioned that and how, how, how much time do you spend off? I mean, I know like us amateurs at home when I spend like five or six days away from the golf club. When I pick it back up, I don't even know where the club faces. How long is the layoff have to be for you to feel like that? It's, it, it just differs. It really does. I get in the same habits. I mean, I know after taking three days off, I'm going to go out and my clubfaces are going to be good halfway at the top. I'm probably

going to have it super laid off and then I'm just going to be kind of wiping at the ball. And it's so that kind of have to go through my fundamental, my checkpoints to get everything kind of fixed up. But it's, I don't know, I used to be really bad at taking time off and bad at getting my feels back when I come back, but I have gotten better. So I mean, I enjoy taking five a week off, not really touching. I'll slowly get into it Thursday. Probably have a pretty good day Friday, Saturday, baby go play, and then Sunday just kind

of do something light. And I feel like by then I could start a tournament on Monday, but then I used that Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday to really hone in on the certain areas of my game I need to. Are there ever terms you show up? I know I said the last question, but are there tournaments that you show up for that you're like, oh man, I'm not ready to play a week.

I'm not ready to play this week. Oh yeah. Yeah. I've had that a bunch. It's funny as it is. I've played Yeah. I've had that a bunch. Really? And it's funny as it is, I've played well. I've won tournaments like that. I mean, I mean, an acronym this year, even.

I was like, I didn't really know because I'd taken some time off. And I just was kind of getting back into it and all of a sudden. And we worked really hard and found something and played really well. But I feel like some of those times because it takes the expectations away and you kind of think about that as much, sometimes helps. Very last one I promise. Is there a future major venue that your eyes light up at? Do you have a future major venue at all?

About all of it for sure. I can't put into words, Oxide, and I am for that. It's going to be to the point where I need to call myself down because it's my only opportunity to ever play in front of my hometown and my home crowd. And it'll just make me feel the most special that I can. So it'll be really cool being a past champion there and go into the champions dinner and just being able to play and I mean I've played that course so many times it's 25 minutes from my house and staying at home. So yeah, I'm really really excited for that one. Cool. Alright, we'll wrap it up that JT. Thanks a lot. Let me come down.

Absolutely. Appreciate the time. Best of luck with the rest of the season. Thank you, sirs. Take it home for us. We'll do. Cheers. Cheers. Take it home for us. We'll do. Cheers. Get the right club. Be the right club today. Yes!

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