No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 168: Tiger Woods has won the Tour Championship

Episode Date: September 24, 2018

We all started believing this would happen back in February. But if you thought this was possible a year ago, you’re lying. Tiger Woods has won his first PGA Tour event in five years. We’re... Th...e post NLU Podcast, Episode 168: Tiger Woods has won the Tour Championship appeared first on No Laying Up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The right club. Be the right club today. That's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Lang Up Podcast. Number 80, it's finally happened. Kat, Kat, Kat, Kat, Kat, Kat, Kat.
Starting point is 00:00:38 You're just going to say it 80 times. To put into perspective how many wins it is. You should have to say it 80 times to put into perspective how many wins it is back. You should have to say it 80 times to start the podcast. Like, or you should count to like 1,800 and whatever it is. And so last time he's one. Well, the cheesiest or kind of cheapest way to think about it, I think is, you know, we spent all weekend at the web.com tour championship. And those guys are like grinding their dicks off to win one time on the PGA tour.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Like one time is an absolute life changer for them on the PGA tour. Cats won 80 times. Like 80. Just on the PGA tour. Not to mention. It's just swear. Like whatever you say about him, you know, like, oh, well, you know, here's a stat that puts his career perspective. It's like, no, it doesn't. Like it's just, you can never put it in a perspective just how impressive he is.
Starting point is 00:01:34 It almost felt, I mean, the whole season has been, like, a kind of build to this happening. It doesn't feel surprising at all. I think, well, once we got to, what was the point, I guess, that you guys reached where you had accepted that he was going to win a tournament this year. I mean, I think it felt like a foregone conclusion for me after Bay Hill. Yeah. Yeah. That was kind of the one that, you know, Val's part of it. Flooky made it.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Well, but hey, it was maybe it was lighting a bottle and then for him to come back. I don't know if it was the week after or, you know, two weeks after, but for him to come back. I don't know if it was the week after or two weeks after, but for him to come back and just play that well that soon, which is like, all right, cool, peace back. I don't even know if I thought it was going to be this year. I kind of written it off as like, it's gonna happen eventually. I don't know when, but yeah. See them playing the majors was like, okay,
Starting point is 00:02:19 his game is good. Like visually his swing looks good. Wow, conditions are really good. Can you tell the story? I feel like we reference that all the time. Well, it's just a, it's like most things for you. It's a clip from the game. It roamed it.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Like Tiger. Yeah, but it's really, it's a real clip. I don't, I forget the setting. I could look it up while we're talking, but essentially the clip is Tiger. Somebody asked him like, how he, how he doing or what he thinks for the term he goes, swing looks good. My swing, no, no, sorry. I just messed it up. Yeah, of course looks good. My swing feels good.
Starting point is 00:02:56 I like my chances and Roma just play it over and over and over and over. This was right around the same time where he's talking about being, you know, play it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and because I have terrible, terrible cat takes all the time. But like, I'm all right, Pete Cat. Yeah. My mom was, I was up in Atlanta last week. And my mom was like, when do you think Stuyers gonna win? And I was like, I think he's probably gonna win this week. Like, I hadn't win the BMW. Like, I thought it was gonna actually happen that week.
Starting point is 00:03:38 I mean, it's, I don't know, it's just, it's amazing how fast we've gotten back into this world where it's not crazy to see him up at the top of the leader. Well, that's a really good point. I don't think like, that's maybe the weirdest part of this is like how not weird it feels. You know, like, it's been five years since this happened. I'm kind of like, oh yeah, no, like, yeah, like, of course he won. But they're super good.
Starting point is 00:04:02 I think about where you were five years ago personally. I don't want to. So just put things in perspective. Well, the last one was at Akron, right? Like of course he won. But they're super good. Think about where you were five years ago personally. I don't want to. So just put things in perspective. Well, the last one was at Akron, right? Yeah, bridge 7, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5. That was the brack, but I was at Akron. Oh, it's more like your life situation.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Hey, listen, listen, I don't want to, you know, I don't want to be a downer here or anything, but that was also a limited feeling. I was waiting for this one to come. That's a good take. I was waiting for this to come. And that's what I wanted to get into that I mean, it's like he beat 29 other guys
Starting point is 00:04:28 28 and half to her you know Ricky, of course, is not a Not a viable threat. I haven't checked out after In the heat. It's also the hardest turn. It's I mean the masters is a limited field of well So we were spending a lot of time this week with Max Homan. I kind of was floating of take. I'm like, gosh, you know, like respectfully, no one respects the cat more than I do. You know, I promise. But like I would rather have his first win come at like the Masters.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Like that would be cool. And Max is like, no, no, no, no, you don't understand. Like the tour championship is the hardest event to win. I'm like, what are you talking to me? I was like, no, no, no, like think about how hard it is to qualify for the tour championship. And then to win, he's like, it's the hardest event to win. I'm like, ah, all right, that's kind of a good day. I think that is a matter of qualified for the tour championship.
Starting point is 00:05:18 I think the fact that he qualified is almost more. Yeah, dude, that's a good day. Yeah. Yeah, especially playing a limited schedule the first half of the year. But yeah, it's what in the Masters, there's what 60 competitive players in the last six, like real. Yeah, probably 40 guys that can actually win it. I mean, at least everybody that shows up the tour championship has earned it that season is like can win the tour championship, like quite literally anyone. So I caught there was some of that going around Twitter like I just doesn't feel
Starting point is 00:05:44 right. This is his first tournament win. I was like, what a world that we live in. That we can be like, you know, I'm not, not all these Tiger coming back and winning. It's got to be, it's got to be way on. Well, listen, I'm not saying it's a good take. Just saying it's a take. I'm much more, I'm glad that it was this
Starting point is 00:05:59 and not the hero world challenge. Sure. That would have been awesome. Well, that's kind of what it was last time with Shout out to Chevron. I know you guys are big, big oil guys. Yeah. Randy's deep in with big oil.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Drill, baby, drill. But yeah, last time it was that exact situation. It was like, like the first post scandal win was he beat the shit out of your boy's act Johnson at the Chevron World Challenge. Was that when ZJ dumped it in the water and then hold it from the car? Yeah, I think they went to playoff. Yeah. at the Chevron World Challenge. Was that when ZJ dumped it in the water and then hold it from the car? Yeah, I think they went to playoff. Yeah, maybe that was against Graeme McDowell.
Starting point is 00:06:28 I don't, listen, all the Chevron World Challenge. It's got to run together by head. I don't, I can't remember, see, and there's bigger things he's won, bigger things he's played for, but I can't remember ever seeing. Are there, though, because Rich Learner on the post game just said he thinks this is the greatest moment of his career? You could I would listen to that take I wouldn't brush it off I think when he wins a major next I had the Mathemasters I can listen to that
Starting point is 00:06:53 What do you what do you put this like up against like well? 97 masters like do you think so much of his career though was being this indestructible guy. Like so once he did all this stuff and kept doing it, it wasn't, it was remarkable, but not that remarkable that he kept doing it. Yeah, I'm sure. To get torn all the way down, both physically and emotionally and from just a public embarrassment standpoint, to the point where even himself, there's no way he thought he was coming back to this and have being written off by all these people. Like, yeah, that's compelling as hell. Like that is, like, what's sure?
Starting point is 00:07:29 Like sure. Like, Brady, how many, well, let me flip a question to Brady. How many times do you think you'd wait if we fuse two of your vertebrae together right now? Well, do I get access to the special doctors or no? Yeah, the really special doctors. And you get unlimited range access to that's the thing. I think our mutual friend, Big Play Ray, who I said that was the only thing that kept him off
Starting point is 00:07:49 the tour was not having unlimited range access. No, I'm just thinking like his win in 97 is for me, it's more important. It's more historical. Oh, yeah. I think this actually, I'm just coming into. I don't agree with Rich learning. I'm actually equate to his his win at the PGA in 99. That's kind of that's a pretty good. When he like he had one in two and a half years, he's able to swing and everybody's like, Oh, what's wrong with Tiger? You know, he came on the scene, he burst on the scene is he actually for real. And then he wins. And then that sets off or even like the 0708 like after his dad died and he kind of like was low point.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Then he basically like a lot of people forget. I think that is like his winning percentage in like late 060708 was like better than it was in 2000. Yeah, nuts. He, uh, I'm just thinking back to 97 and that that masters. What if the like the equipment didn't change in the way that it did? Like that was then the antiquate, the last of the antiquated equipment era,
Starting point is 00:08:51 where it's an old ball, the wound ball haven't been put into play yet and the big drivers weren't there yet, and he beat like people by 12. And like I know he won the US Open in 15, like by 15 a few years later, that's when the equipment was starting to change. Like everyone started to somewhat be able to catch up to them.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Like what if it never changed? Like what if it didn't get there? How many people asked that I think a lot? Like we were talking about equipment and whatever. And if things never changed, like, or if they rolled back this or rolled back that, like who would be the best player? It's like, dude, it's like Tiger or something.
Starting point is 00:09:22 For sure, even better than he is now. Yeah. I mean, I, I mean, I, how many like half baked ideas we throw out, like one that I've definitely what a throwing out is like, oh, they should let the crowd walk up the 18. That was cool. I never thought they would actually do that. Like, what's the, like, I can't imagine how many
Starting point is 00:09:38 games has happened. It's just, yeah. People just broke continues. Yeah. So I'm fucking our heads. Yeah. But dude, that was like what like I will remember that five years from now what other moment in the last Four or five years has happened that you'll like totally remember off top of your head like that one Yeah, I don't know not not many. I mean that's it was it was awesome. I'm cool. There's look. There's a lot of cool
Starting point is 00:10:03 Yeah, it's cool. It makes me mad. It's a lot of cool people that work for the tournament that put in a ton of hard work for this tournament and stuff. I think it's like the end of the world of the live under par stuff. That's just, it's like a reward for all of that. Well, how about the vacation?
Starting point is 00:10:16 Well, how about the back of the chip on 17? You had nothing to do with any of that. It's like just right place, right time. Too far under par. It was, I mean, it's funny. It's amazing how much the tours getting in their own way, yet got the break of a lifetime that this, the new system that goes in place next year wasn't in place for this year. Because if it was for this year, Justin Rose would have won the tournament and the FedEx couple. Yeah, it would have been close. I mean, Tiger beat him by what?
Starting point is 00:10:44 Like, I would have been close. Tiger beat him by what? It would have been close. I'm pretty sure that was the case. I don't think Tiger would have won the FedEx cup because it's basically supposed to be like whoever wins the FedEx cup also wins the turn. So I don't think that he would have been really close, but yeah. Like it's what was the imagine that would happen. Probably back with Tiger if then.
Starting point is 00:11:04 I don't care enough about this new system to know the answer to that. I wish I did, but I just imagine that happened. Yeah, that would be absolutely absurd. His first win back in the tour, like took it away from us basically. That he said amazing. That VK. Well, listen, as a huge fan of chaos, that would have been cool. But how do we just under the current system?
Starting point is 00:11:28 I don't mean to steer the conference. I know there's a very cat-centric podcast But how do we feel about Justin like or Justin Rose lagging it to the six inches to win $10 million to shoot 73 I think that's the perfect And how about I'm calling it a death march or slow death as a slow death out there? a death march or slow death as a slow death out there. Justin, like he tapped it and he's like, I can only go by what I saw on TV, but it looked like he mouted a lot of sorry to the fans in the in the gallery, which it's kind of a kind of a class act. Yeah. That was kind of a man, not a big Justin Rose fan.
Starting point is 00:11:58 I don't think many of us sitting here really are, but I was like, all right, that's, that's kind of cool. I think it's kind of like anti-ine rose, but it's just we're just not pro just. Yeah, you know, fair. He's just very, very English. That's what is quite okay. I love hate him because he's in
Starting point is 00:12:15 like I love Britz. That's like racist. He's like the smoke. He's like the smug English guy. I feel like yeah, I think that's likely no one's ever said. Like is it possible to be the number one player in the world, or the number one in the world at something and be smug?
Starting point is 00:12:30 That will, that was a good take too. Yeah, I said, if you're literally the best in the world, is it smug or are you just like accurate about yourself? And I respect you, sorry. I gave me a lot to think about that. That's what a million cuts in a row start as career and, you know, like, dude, no one like works harder. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:49 I think that's like you tell me. He always tells me he's like, he's like, listen, like Justin Rose, he sets up his schedule every year. He practices to be the number one player in the world. Like that means something to him. And the fact that he set his mind to that and did it. And Rose has found like the perfect balance of like being in that you just need to be long enough crew. Like he's top 20% prime driving business, but not the longest, but he is hit the ball so freaking far and far enough
Starting point is 00:13:15 and then prides himself on being like the best iron player maybe in the world. According to Sean Foley, which I overheard once the memorial, I top four Iron Player that has ever lived. Dude, I think legitimately that might be hard to argue. Well, he's really so good. He is. He is really good, but I would think the top four Iron Player will have won one major. But right on one major.
Starting point is 00:13:37 The flip side of that argument is like, there's a lot of players that have lived. I have a question for the group. Sure. So right now, of course, you're race to Dubai. Patrick Reed is the number two player in the race to Dubai. That might be a fault. Was that a question? Why are we going to be sitting here after the... Is he going to go play it? It's like the DP World Championship.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Yeah, I mean, I don't even know. But yeah, I mean, I'll have a sumi's going to go play it? It's like the DP world the D.P. World Championship I don't even know but yeah, I mean I'll have a sumi's gonna go play it like you know you get It's like a lot of five million dollar prize pool. What is it? It's like in late November What made you think of that? You're talking about this arbitrary fake You know cash giveaway like basically a way to distribute this massive pool of money that makes it still merit-based. I'm just thinking, all right, what are the other ways that they do that with engulf? It's not FedEx cup season.
Starting point is 00:14:42 This is how would you change the FedEx cup season? Like every year, it's just, that's all. And like, they should do this, but like, what, have we thought through what the answer is? What should they do at the end of the year? I don't necessarily have, I mean, I think match play for like the final six or eight guys during the week, prime time on TV would be incredible.
Starting point is 00:14:59 But I agree. And I think the only thing is like, well, it's tough to tell a vise. And like, that's the issue. It's like, okay, well, who's perspective are you doing? Well, that's the thing I think you were for to determine the best player because I think they are at odds a little bit. Well, I mean, I think that like to your point, Randy, I think we need to couch this entire
Starting point is 00:15:17 conversation on like, look, like we're not coming at this from the perspective of TV executives. Like we're coming at this from just four guys who were drinking beers on the couch watching and like, you know, what would you rather watch this or this? And yeah, if it's me and like today's final round is Rory versus Tiger 18 whole match play. Like I could tell you. Like $10 million. Like, yeah, that'd be something you're interested in.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Or I'd rather not. Like you're a comparison of like, not thinking like a tour exec and being four guys on the couch drinking beers. It's like, but also, like, kind of pay eventually to think like somebody at home watching it, like, what I want to watch this is. Well, yes or no, it's like, it's worth for us.
Starting point is 00:15:58 That's a wee approach. But that's the thing is like, yes or no, it's, it's, it's, yes and no, I guess it's like. Yes, the fans want to see this, but like if somebody won't pay for it, then it doesn't matter. So it out on some level, like, of course, it has to come back to the fan wants to see X, but they're we're in there, there's like a weird stopgap in between where it's like, yes, the fan wants to see this, but nobody will pay for it. So I need to lean on the sponsors to do that. That's all relative though.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Like they just gave away so much money and they're giving away even more next year. And the $75,000,000 allegedly, it's proven that playing for a ton of money isn't low. I'm going to, I'm going to flip this back at every given chance to the web.com tour tour championship, which no laying up was sponsoring heavily. Proud not heavily that's well, that's a just to win the small business. The award that they presented which we're going to be gun in for next year.
Starting point is 00:16:56 But like we were all sitting in the bar today watching, you know, watching these guys fighting for cards. And I'm like, dude, this is like this guy. And I can explain to my wife, you know, hey, this guy has a, has a six footer on 18. And if he makes it, he has a PJ tour card next year. And if he misses it, he doesn't. And we're all on the edge of our seats. Like, oh my gosh, this is insane. Whereas like, oh, yeah, either Tiger who has all of the money or Justin Rose who has just barely less than all of the money is gonna win this arbitrary prize that like, you know.
Starting point is 00:17:36 But with like some arbitrary number of commas in it. I feel like even the web guys will tell you, it's like, well, yeah, those guys like deserve it. That's not your case. It's like it's like well, yeah, those guys like deserve it. That's not your case It's like it's not like sure, but it is like way more compelling, but I think it's like that that's why they make that's what they try to make it That's what they try to bring into the equation to make it compelling to the outsiders where it's like well It's hard. These are the stakes. This is what they're playing for and I was like, no, I get that, but it's all relative. And the fact is, you know, the guys at the WebTour Championship, they're playing for, it's good
Starting point is 00:18:10 to go make, you know, the minimum they're going to make next year is like 500 grand. They have the, yeah, much, a terrible season. Yes. You know, and it's like, that's all relative. But at the end of the day, it's like, you know, the rich get richer kind of thing. And I don't begrudge any of. For sure. I think the top guys in golf, they probably don't make as much as they should. They all sit there. Yeah, no, I totally agree with that.
Starting point is 00:18:35 And that's the thing is, I'm not even shitting on the whole scenario at all. I get completely that these guys are incredibly high demand for their time and their appearances and their scheduling and all of that. And it's like, you know, on one hand, it's like you gotta pay these guys
Starting point is 00:18:56 exorbitant amounts of money to get them to show up and to get them to care and to do that. But on the other hand, it's like, dude, that doesn't mean like we should yours have to care about it. Exactly. And it's like, see, there's gotta be a happy medium or there's gotta be something in the middle where somehow we're making both people happy.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Because I think this is the happy medium though, because like before, this was just, like before the FedEx Cup was just a fall series that no one even cared about. The Torchampian ship. I mean, I remember going to the Torchampian ship when it was like Halloween weekend. Yeah. And nobody
Starting point is 00:19:25 had been high school. And it was, you know, guys would guys would be like 40 shots off. It was it was a awful, awful. So that's kind of where I stand with it. It's like, all right, what they've done is better than what they had. And like, I will tune in if like there's compelling stories going on. And if not, I'll tune out. And that's like, I think that's a fair, I don't think they can do something to make me be like, this is a point in television.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Yeah, I agree. I think that's a real realistic thing. Well, it's a consistency thing. Like I don't think they can do something that's gonna guarantee every year, it is the best thing possible. Yeah. Do they have, like does the tour have like PTSD from the one year
Starting point is 00:20:08 that the match play was like Kevin Sutherland and Paid and it was like 62 versus 64 of the finals? Yeah. And I, because I just look at this and I'm like, all right, like even if it was, you know, if you have the top six or the top eight guys competing in match play, like, it's really not going to be all that different from Well, you can manipulate it to give guys like a buy or a double buy who have finished, you know, yeah, one through whatever. Well, I think the Again, I am absolutely not suggesting anything. Let me preface that with this. I have no idea if this would work.
Starting point is 00:20:46 I'm sure there's a million reasons why it wouldn't. But the most popular suggestion that I've seen on Twitter and whatever, which is where all great ideas come from, is just having 36 or 54 holes of stroke play and just making Sunday your four-person shootout. Yeah, for the 10 million bucks to where it's like, dude, you still have a legitimate tournament. You still have enough players to make it so that it's competitive to where, you know, somebody's
Starting point is 00:21:14 not going to run away with it, even if they do, if they run away from three other guys who are playing their best golf, like that it's compelling. Yeah. So what I don't understand is, you know, you can have your FedEx cup, you know, race all through the regular season. And then you get to the playoffs, right? And then that fourth event, the tour championship, I think everybody should just be at zero. Like why don't they just wipe the slate clean? And so whoever wins the tournament
Starting point is 00:21:45 that week wins the FedEx. Well, I think it would be the whole thing about how, first of all, it's such an exorbitant amount of money that like who was, I don't even know who was number like 27 or 28 or 30 or whatever. Like leash or no disrespect to Pat and Kazair. Or the ones the FedEx. Or Aaron Wise or whatever where it's like. yeah, obviously they had a great year like they made the tour championship But oh hey congratulations like we're gonna give you Ten million dollars. I know Bryson just won two playoff events and two other events and whatever but like sorry That's not good enough like I obviously like I can no I know I know it is them just trying to have it both ways
Starting point is 00:22:26 But but it's like okay, then don't even invite those guys like I don't know like that doesn't make it as as a viewer again as purely a viewer Like it just seems like a really stupid way to do it problem as the whole things can try Yeah, that's the deal and I think it comes down to I do applaud the tour for doing a bonus for the regular season. Because going forward, going forward. Yeah. Yeah. So five years. Yeah. And I agree. I love that. That's that's really good. Because that's the whole thing with all right. Like that's the argument against or one of the arguments against doing it the way that you suggest. It's like, Hey, it renders the regular season worthless. And then people would say, Oh, well, you of the arguments against doing it the way that you suggested is like, Hey, it renders the regular season worthless.
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Starting point is 00:24:43 we have one more question. Who won the FedEx Cup last year? God, who was it? And it's like it just seems so like asked backwards. Like, and not only did he win the FedEx Cup on the same day, he wins the FedEx Cup. He loses his number one ranking. That's wild. That's wild, man. That's wild, man. So it just seems like, yeah, it's like, okay, if you want to make it this FedEx cup, this whole thing season long playoffs, such a big, like, no one's going to remember who wanted like a year from now. It's so stupid.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Well, let me, that's what you guys on this spot. But who won the last three FedEx cups before this? Why can't you do this? I can do this. 27 Thomas. Justin Thomas, Rory McElroy. Rory. And then, was that 15 speed? Yes. 27 Thomas Justin Thomas Rory Mackle Roy and then
Starting point is 00:25:27 Was that 15 speed? Yes, before that was Stenson's dancing before that was horshaw no horshaw was 14 stenson was 13. Okay. Yes, they're sick. Yeah, 12 The only reason I know is because I was at all 2012 11 was haaz furic was 10. No, I don't I retract the question. I don't care I guess my thing is I didn't have told you JT wanted last year and I I certainly am not the biggest though Well, I'm a very big golf fan It's just a weird situation because people like us who know who follow the tour incredibly closely and have
Starting point is 00:26:04 who know, who follow the tour incredibly closely and have friends that are like, a lot of our friends are the people who are grabbing these FedEx Cup points that like nobody else really gives a shit about. And like, like how you make people give a shit about, you know, who finishes seventh at the Valero Texas Open? Like fuck, I don't know how you do that. Like that's incredibly difficult.
Starting point is 00:26:23 So it's almost gonna get so heavy. be like, yeah, you can't. That's an unsolvable problem. I agree with you. So it's almost like just, just, I feel like this thing is a mechanism for distributing a lot of money in a way, maybe all the money in a relatively merit based way. So I'm almost to the point where it's like, just do that off to the side under the table or just publicize it over here and just don't have this whole thing. Well, it's almost like baseball.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Like we were kind of joking around Randy. Like, when you win a World Series, I was kind of joking like, you know, oh, well, like you win a ring. And Randy's like, well, no, like you still win like a Giant cash bonus. It's like nobody ever talks about it. It's good point And like there's nothing like that engulf and I think that again, like I don't blame it
Starting point is 00:27:15 Anybody involved in this entire situation because it's like it's I would do the exact same thing But like with the FedEx cup. It's like no like we don't want to focus on the money for the exact reason. They don't want to focus on the World Series bonus payouts. They want to focus on, here's the trophy that you want. And I just like, man. But when you call it the FedEx, well, even that is like, well, how do you do that without getting a brand to pay for it? It's all contra.
Starting point is 00:27:44 It's all contra. It's all contra. It's a huge circle that like I don't know where it starts or ends. Time is a flat circle. I don't know. I don't know. I got a lot of thoughts here, but it's probably not the time or place. We're not going to solve the FedEx.
Starting point is 00:27:58 By the way, Tiger one today. Yeah. Let's circle back. That was a lot. Hey, Joey. Joey makes some money. Joey makes some money. Yeah. Let's circle back. That was a lot. A lot. Hey, Joey. Joey makes some money. Joey makes some money. Yeah. Um, so what do uh, the question, we got a couple questions. A lot of them are kind of more of the along the lines of jokes.
Starting point is 00:28:20 People is a serious ill podcast. Bryson's t-shirt discuss. It said beat Europe. That's great. Bryson continues to be a very bright spot in the game. That's Bolton Bor materiel for my god's over in Europe. All right, so this is a question. And I'm so, so glad that this part of the season is on us where people, somebody makes a bogey and then the tweet comes up, hey, are you worried about so-and-so
Starting point is 00:28:44 for the Ryder Cup? But like, you guys put any stock in where somebody or finishes this week? 0.0%. I can't believe that people still do this. Unless the guy absolutely can't find the club face. Yeah, yeah. However, Tiger finished what, like 25 strokes ahead of Phil.
Starting point is 00:28:59 This is what you call him. Like, that's kind of sick. That's kind of sick. Yeah. But like, that stuff happens week to week. And this course looks nothing like League of National is gonna look like. It's not the same environment.
Starting point is 00:29:09 There's not even, it's just like Phil needed some, like once Phil didn't have any juice to play for, like I'm not worried about him specifically. No, it's just, I don't know. It comes back to the same point, like I'm probably biased about this, but it comes back to the same way I feel about captains' picks or where it's like, too, just pick whoever you think is like a gamer that's going to show up like a big stage.
Starting point is 00:29:30 I don't care what they did in February and I don't care what like, I don't care what their points say. I don't care what they're, what they're like in the locker room, like just fucking pick somebody who's like going to play well on a huge stage. Like that's it. Yeah. Because all these guys, everyone from, whoever, I don't even fuck out,
Starting point is 00:29:47 who's number one in the world now? Dustin Johnson or who took over Justin Rosa Spot? DJ. Whoever's number one in the world, whoever's number 200 in the world, like game wise, over 18 holes, they're pretty close. Yes. They're really close.
Starting point is 00:30:00 And it's kind of like almost a statistical coin flip, who's gonna beat each other over 18 holes. And it's like, dude, just, just like, yeah, I don't, I'm not worried about what Phil did. I'll think the different last one. What Phil did Thursday at East Lake. Like, it's far from a statistical. The writer kept purely being random. I love that.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Well, yeah, I mean, Tiger is one this week and can go 0 and 3 easily, like without a doubt and Phil can go 2, 1 and 1. And neither of those would be so much better. I'm just going to say if you like believe in like regression of the mean, like that's, that's where they would try. Like Tiger's going to trend down. Phil has to trend up. And it takes a lot of energy to win a golf tour.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Yeah, for sure. The best suite I saw today was somebody said like, hey, like Phil and and read Earth the bottom and Sergio's in the top 10 in Portugal. Are you worried? I was like, Sergio didn't make these playoffs. Like it's playing the European tour event. It's, it's, it's a long way gone. Hey, yeah, I'm, I'm glad to see Sergio playing well.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Do you guys think webs win at the players back in May? Do you think that's going to give him a lot of momentum going back into the into these rider cubs? Listen, the point system is a disgrace. However, I did this on the I said this on the podcast with Job. I'm cool with Webb I got confidence. I was looking up the TV and I saw his name on the leader Listen, if I was the issue there if I wasn't gonna watch the tournament, I'd be totally cool with Webb The fact that I have to watch Web swinging, that's why I'm not cool with Web. I think we determined today that Web leads the tour
Starting point is 00:31:29 in Stroke's gained swing looking awful. I think it's all very fair to say. But it works, dude, it works. He's had an incredible, like, he had a monster season. Yeah, but it just looks ugly. So, well, sometimes to be fair, it's like guys like Bryson and Steve Stricker,
Starting point is 00:31:45 like I sometimes I literally don't know how they like hit the ball. Well, you know what's kind of a take? You know what's kind of a take is, like I feel like we forgive bad backswings and we don't forgive bad downswing. It's the follow through. It's the follow through, like Web's backswing is beautiful. If you pause his swing at the top, he's like, he's perfect.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Yeah, or he's like, he's perfect. Or he's just, like, we don't hang on drugs. Is like, oh god, that's gross. Or Kevin Shappel. Yeah. Your voice. Dude, I love it. On some of the questions Chris Arckwright asked about Tiger,
Starting point is 00:32:16 is this the greatest comeback in sports history? I don't know enough about sports history. Look, that's a long history. It kind of goes back to what we say at the beginning. Can we say golf history? Greatest comeback. Ben Hogan got a fucking bus. It's like all first thoughts.
Starting point is 00:32:30 First of all, it's Mr. Hogan. Mr. Hogan. What the US open? He took a boat over and won the Open Championship. I don't know. I don't know enough about history, but it's. I don't think Ben Hogan had quiet as good a doctor. I'm going to give that to walking Phoenix Gladiator thumbs that on that one.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Is night you feel I forget where I saw this one, but is 19 in play? Yeah, I think Tiger was 19. I'm sorry. I think 15. Yeah, 15. I think he definitely went to much more play than it was. He went to more British opens. He's always gonna be in contention at Augusta.
Starting point is 00:33:04 He sets up really well for Pebble next year, and it's just a matter of like getting hot at the right time. Well, you know what would be a good stat? Is how many times does he want more than one in a year? Which is thousand, like 2002, 2005, 2006. Those of the years. Infrequently.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Yes. In other words. So he's what five short. So basically he has to have like two and a half career years at the age of 39 or four. Oh no, what is he's 42? Yeah, yeah, 42 like that's it. Here's, yeah, here's the question. It's probably not, I feel bad bringing it up in the wake of his win, but it's like, could the back go at any, like how how solid is the back? How solid is the body? I don't, I just don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:59 I'm just the back. It's the knee. It's silly. Like it's everything. Like I don't feel comfortable talking about this. There are some things I think we would. Yeah, I just, I can't say certain stuff without being, I agree. Suit for live all year, slander, whatever. I mean, I think 16 is realistic.
Starting point is 00:34:20 I told us. Yeah. I think so many. And so he needs to win five, which is how many is Phil have? Phil's career. So as long as he has Phil's career on like with a fused back on his journey on like, my is Ricky. I gotta look. I don't have my cut in front of me. That's a question from Tucker Foxx is Rick is Randy satisfied with Ricky's finish? No, I take that satisfaction from it. Well, what it is, what was this finish? I don't tied for fifth, maybe you're six.
Starting point is 00:34:48 What do we think of? What do we think of Rory's finished today? Yeah, how we not talked about that? That was, that was, I want to recuse myself from the conversation. It was a disgrace. It wasn't good. I love Rory. I think, you know, nobody loves Rory more than Trot. I, you know, he was a thrower It wasn't good. I love Rory. I think, you know, I- Look, nobody loves Rory more than this, Rod. I, you know, he was a thrower, not a picture today. Per usual. Or do we do- Does Rory look skinny?
Starting point is 00:35:13 That's what people are saying. I don't really need to notice it. He stopped doing the heavy lifting like a year ago, right? Cat looks a bit skinny. Cat claims he's a bit skinny. Cat looks healthy. Yeah, he's going to get back into the show. That's kind of like the-
Starting point is 00:35:24 Which is good. Yeah, for sure. That's like one of the underrated things about the coming. I've ever read the transcript. Yeah, but I'm sure he I'm sure he was like, you know, how are you going to prep for the rarka while you know, when you get a couple good jam sessions. Yeah, I have a weight room on my plane. I'm at it. Lift on the way over here. Here's a good one from net par golf. How rewarding was today for DuVal, Sing and Ells. Today, Roy and the rest got a taste of what they fought their entire careers.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Ah, oh, I think I'm like, I think I'm like, oh, I like that take. I'm like, really? Well, yeah, I mean, theoretically sure. I do think it's interesting that you have guys, so many guys who grew up just absolutely revering Tiger are now directly competing against them. And they've been begging for it.
Starting point is 00:36:10 And really haven't gotten a taste of anything close to Tiger. So it's interesting from that standpoint. And they still haven't gotten a taste of anything close to Tiger. I get it. I never respect it. But he had, well, like a three or four shot lead coming in to Sunday. Well, yeah, maybe not today specifically.
Starting point is 00:36:29 I think that's my issue. I think coming up, like if you give him a full off season of being out of health to prepare and work on stuff like this, I feel I still feel like everything he's done all of this in spite of the circumstances. If you give him a full four or five months to, you know, like he shows up at Tori and he's rare and to go and then he can keep polishing up his game for Augusta and April. And he comes,
Starting point is 00:36:56 he shows up at Augusta and he's gonna like, he might fuck people up. Here's a, well, here's a question. question if Tiger were let's say Tiger or to like somewhat dominate the next three four years Uh, and then eventually he's got a retire like he might well that he read like yes Redominates do he's gonna like kill the game when he does leave yes, that's what that's like a mega take Yeah, that might be the macro. Because you got all these like young guns who the tourists spent so much time prepping, like the next one, and like, dude, one, they're going to be like, well, they're not that good.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Like, tigers kick in their ass. And then two, like, what's in the wake then? Like, that's it. God, I, I, that's what I'm rooting for. That's a mega take car for the courses agree. I went over under for you. First, I, that's what I'm rooting for. That's a mega take. Car for the course is a great one. Over under. First of all, for usual. Over under two and a half wins next season. That's the perfect number.
Starting point is 00:37:53 I think too. I think too. Gosh, I'm going to take a couple of other official tour wins. Yeah. I'm going to take a hero like the hero. Season season. Does the hero count? I'd say I'm counting the hero.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Oh, wow. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, I don't think car for the course would count the hero count? I'd say I'm counting the hero. Oh, wow. That's a lot of fun. And now that's, that's a lot of fun. I don't think car for the course would count the hero. Yeah, I don't think so either. Then make it three and a half then if you count the hero. You know what?
Starting point is 00:38:14 This is kind of an answer that I take to that, but it ties in a little bit. I want to see Kat add some tournaments to his schedule. I've said this in the past. For sure. Like go play the John Deere or go play Harbor Town or go play some places that you haven't historically played. Give back to the game a little bit, but also like they suit your game better than some of the other tournaments
Starting point is 00:38:35 these days. I listen, I'll say on there, but who knows? I'll say under only because I think it's going to be two. I think two is like, that's a hell of a year. Not in not counting here. Throw that out, that's a wild card. It's too unpredictable. I mean, he's gonna put like 15 events, so like three, like winning 20%. That's what I mean, it's a whole lot. I think winning, I think winning two
Starting point is 00:38:54 is totally realistic and totally, huge, mungusly impressive. Is Tiger in the Big Four? Is it a Big Five? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Yeah. When we talked about that, remember that was a thing. I want to be dead serious. Who's your big four right now? Because you know That's like it's all gone like if tigers like this good now. It's all he was saying Here's the question over here's a question throw all rankings out all the points anything that like tells you Who is basically everyone's on like the gym class dodge ball lines. Yes, right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:27 You just pick guys. Is Tiger Woods the best golfer in the world? Yeah, he's my first pick, right? Oh, well, I mean, what are we picking for? Like a one, like a, like a, just one week. I think it's a one week, a one week, like who can win? I think it's however you want to define it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Who's the best at golf? I think you're like drafting for like the like the Arnold palm rotation. But it always depends on course. Yeah. And that's where you can get kind of lost. And I was like, is it's the best golf in the world? Why is let's back into it.
Starting point is 00:39:59 We made up the question. We can make up the pre-intercept. Who are the candidates? Like who can we throw out? Oh, anybody. No, no, no, no. Well, there's probably five or six guys, right? Yeah. the question. We can make up the pre-interests. Who are the candidates? Like, who can we throw out? Anybody? No, no, no, no. There's probably five or six guys, right? So Jinty, DJ, Rose, I wouldn't even put,
Starting point is 00:40:12 I wouldn't put speed there right now. I wouldn't put Rory in there right now. In all honesty. Well, you could not take him, but like he would be, you could be a considerate person. Yeah, sure, sure. Sure, sure. Yeah, but I think right at this moment,
Starting point is 00:40:24 you're looking. Dustin, Dustin, Brooks Dustin Dustin Brooks Tiger Brooks, Rose and JT are probably the five. You know what? I think it might be Brooks. But is Brooks better? Brooks might be the baddest down, right? But is he better at golf just because he's one to the biggest events? to the biggest events. Well, I guess that's the way it goes off the bus. Yeah. Well, I know this year, but I mean, like that's a grape. Like if you were that great at golf,
Starting point is 00:40:49 I would think like four other wins would come with it. You know what I mean? That's kind of the question. That's why that's what works as awesome as because he refused his living or far. Oh, listen. Listen. Like Loki, I don't really trust DJ.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Like he's, I don't think anybody trust DJ. He might have the ultimate highest for different reasons. Sure. That's my least favorite question maybe in golf is who's best is best. Who's best is best. I hate that but the answer is probably DJ I think. But I you know I would I would say I would kind of tend towards JT but then you're like
Starting point is 00:41:21 all right well JT can't really play over. And he can't play as much of a variety of different courses as some of these other guys. He can't play over and wear. Where will a single speech best is the best? I still, I definitely agree with that. Oh, like the top gear there. Yeah, I mean, that's fair. But I'm like, I'm talking like right now, you know, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:43 If we were going to plan an event on October 25th. The October 13th reopening of Jack's Beach meeting. By the way, I wrote you come out. A two day, a two day medal of every day. You know, who hasn't been mentioned? Who? Ricky?
Starting point is 00:42:00 Oh, sure. I don't think I really... I was going to say Tiger wins two tournaments next year. That's like, has a record game this whole day. Hasn sure. Yeah. I don't, yeah. I don't think I was going to say Tiger wins two tournaments next year. That's like, Jason. Jason has been mentioned. Yeah. He hasn't been mentioned. Wow. Patrick Reed hasn't been mentioned. I mean, I don't think you're going to find anyone that's going to say Ricky Fowler's the best golfer in the world. I know. I'm beat. I'm beat at that horse. All right. Let's try to, let's try to steer this home here with some talk. We've had a lot of rider cup coverage on this podcast for the last several weeks,
Starting point is 00:42:27 but haven't chat with you guys much on who you guys, what, what do you guys think is going to happen? How you see this playing out? We know who Tron's rooting for. He's made that very clear, but what are your expectations for this coming week? What's your viewing schedule is going to be like? Are you guys well, that's what I need to, can you educate me? What, what the viewing window is? I think it comes on like 2 a.m. Okay, well, I won't be up at Whatever's like maybe use the wake up for like the Australia up in tennis
Starting point is 00:42:59 Like speaking for my associate Randy is like what matches do you see at like 10 30 11 a.m. Easter time? What do you think will be going on that? Because that's mostly what he's going to catch. I'm going to be like, um, yeah, I don't know. God, I'm loving like, you know, it's just a statistical point for it. Coin flip. Look, it's not, I don't, I'm going to get roasted for that. I'm sure. But of sure of course it's not like exactly a coin flip my point is that the top Hundred issues yes players in the world like over 18 holes 18 holes is the smallest samples eyes possible It is a little random. It's pretty yeah, maybe not even it's pretty fucking random and and of course there You know who wants it more Randy, you know, of course, we gotta think about that.
Starting point is 00:43:46 But if Tiger's playing tourbillon Olsen, it's probably like 65, 30%. I don't know, maybe not, dude. Like, well, that's where you look. You can't know the human element. What's Nicholas Colt's doing this week? Like, is he like a marquee player in the world now? Like he showed, he's Thomas Deter.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Incredibly good player and he showed up at the right time like it can happen For sure what's Keegan Bradley doing this week, but the statistical nerds would tell you just because something like that happen Doesn't mean that it was a coin flip like 35% chance of winning you can still win like that for sure can happen Yes, I'll say this in terms of I don't know why I said not exactly a coin flip not even but all a coin flip Well, of course no one can know what will happen. We'll have to wait and find out what I hope does happen. I would rather have it be extremely close Sunday than for the US to win in a blowout.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Like, I just want to see drama. Yeah. All I want to see is something interesting. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. 16 was exciting for several reasons, but boring at the end. Like the celebration. Exactly. Like it was just, it was anti-chalmatic on Sunday. I just want to be like sweating. It's all like, Medina was like the best writer, so even though the Euro's won. Yeah, I agree with that. I'm looking forward to it. Like the stakes are pretty low. That's the other thing. It's like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:03 I don't want to sound un-American, like nobody loves Americans. But if we lose, like nobody gets executed. I guess, though that would be sick. I think it's pretty good. I've just, like, it's not just like, I would rather, I'm with you. I'm saying the same thing.
Starting point is 00:45:18 I just, just give me the more interesting the better. Yeah. I mean, I'm still pissed that Rafa Cabrerobeo didn't make the team. I agree with that. I thought it was bullshit. Yeah. Well, you need to talk to your boys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:33 No, I will. I will. I will. I will. I will. I will. I will. I will. I will.
Starting point is 00:45:41 I will. I will. I will. I will. I will. I the bottom of it, I think. Yeah, I'm going over to, I'm not going to France. I'm going to Scotland. I'm trying to, but yeah, I'm really excited to watch Teryl Hatton. Yeah, I think he's like totally mad.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Charger member of the Opus Day site. If we don't get shadowed, versus Bryce, I'm going to say, if we don't get that, what are we doing? That's the thing. I feel like they should, the captains, Furek and Bjorn should get together on Saturday and say, hey, let's, let's match this stuff up. Are you calling for collusion? Conch, yes.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Absolutely. It'd be awesome. Did you hear bones on the podcast from Toggle Mowen? He and Yarmul went, filling Yarmul got paired up together. He's like, yeah, the so called random selection process and sure enough, fill in the arm, get paired. I was like, oh, I'd like to listen to a take on that one. To get to it.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Yeah. Well, so quite like what's that? I want to see Reed versus Ram. That's why I was going to say, what's the one match you would be most interested to see? I think Reed Roy 2.0 would be wonderful. I think Tiger versus Roy. We just saw that.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Well, but like, I know in that arena and in Europe, and it like, that wasn't that. Tiger, Tiger's gonna get like, like Tiger versus like, honestly, Tiger versus anybody. Pull to read would be good. Oh, God, I'm gonna be tremendous. Tiger pulled to be sick.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Rose, spieth, would be good. Sergio Tiger would be good. Yeah, actually, I'd be answering. Sergio Tiger would be good. Actually, my big answer. Tiger beats him, you know, eight and six. Oh, this rider comes to be incredible. That's what even people like,
Starting point is 00:47:12 if you're worried about and how anybody played the Torch Championship, like, okay, then bench those guys. Like, there's plenty of other guys that can come in on both teams. I think, yeah, I think it's, it might be a three match guy. There might be a take here in that, like Thomas Bjorn has it easier than Furek.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Like there's three guys on the European team that you're pretty safe to, they're definitely not going to play more than two team matches. Definitely. Whereas the US team is like, who we sit? Who? I think it's named names. I'll see. I don't have the listed front of me.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Uh, listen. Oh, I'll see. Yeah, I got the list right here. I'm right here. I don't think Tore front of me. Uh, Alison. Oh, wow, man. Yeah, I got the list right here. I'm right here. I don't think Tore. I should about my god. I don't think Tore Bernolson is playing, uh, more than two team matches.
Starting point is 00:47:53 I'd be, I'd be, I'd be surprised by that. It's not right now. Patton, I wouldn't, I wouldn't expect him to play more than two team matches. And, uh, okay. Paul Casey, he's not been playing very well. I'll help these in the room. He's the one I would probably,
Starting point is 00:48:08 so I didn't say Sergio. Yeah, Sergio's probably not playing more than two teammates. And what about those Sergio? Top 10 at the Portugal. I'm saying that's, are you nervous? It's easier to sit those guys than it is to like, all right, Bryson, you were a captain's pick, but hey, you just came in, you just won two events.
Starting point is 00:48:21 How do I sit you for two different sessions? And I mean, honestly, who do you like for sure say? Sure say. For some bigger personalities on the US side. Yeah. So it makes it harder to. Baba, I think has to sit at least two sessions. I would have to think.
Starting point is 00:48:33 I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I be surprised. I think you'd have to like, dude, Phil hasn't shown much in like a month. And it's like unless he shows up and he's like, yo, I'm making everything right now. Right. I feel great. Yeah. He's going to say that. And he might even and he's like, yo, I'm making everything right now. I feel great. Yeah. He's going to say that. He might even, he's going to. He's going to be right though.
Starting point is 00:48:49 That's the thing. That's kind of my point. Phil wants to win more than he wants to win because of him though. Like I true, I think he, if he wants to play, he'll play once in a day. And didn't he sit once in the presents cup because you like wanted to take? That's what I was going to say is I was a little sick.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Legitimately trust him. Yeah. Which sounds fucking stupid. stupid I would trust him to be like yo I can't go anymore yeah I'm gonna leave it all in the field right that's what happened I know exactly I agree yeah that's what I'm saying they were three you know he's like I'm not playing in the last session like I've given it all I have like let me rest for singles so all right well before we go here this was a tiger podcast yeah allegedly supposedly well I will say the best thing about Tiger for singles. So, all right. Well, before we go here, this was a Tiger podcast. Yeah, allegedly, supposedly. Well, I will say the best thing about Tiger kind of gets everybody fired up about
Starting point is 00:49:30 for sure. We were kind of low energy. Now we're, I feel like we're ready to go. We're not going to go much else. We can say like he's, well, though, what just happened is Tiger just won the first time in five years and we're rolling into the best week, not the best week in a year. The best week in two years. Like, not the best week in a year. The best week in two years. The master's exciting comes around every year. The Ryder Cup is the best. And Tigers looking for vindication
Starting point is 00:49:52 for a relatively poor career. He hasn't won a Ryder Cup just 99. Yeah, well, my question was gonna be before we go here. What's your favorite, this might be a two big of a question, but what's your favorite tiger memory? Because if you don't think some memories are flowing, as you're seeing all the gallery, as he was choking back tears,
Starting point is 00:50:12 I'd never seen that before in my life. I'm glad no one turned around. Are you looking for an earnest answer? Yeah, I kind of am. Well, give me a joke. I was gonna give you a serious fermentant. Give me your joke answer. I was gonna give you a blue activation. But that doesn your joke answer. I was gonna give you a blue activation.
Starting point is 00:50:25 But that's a four-way taught you native side. I think what his dog had double ACS. That might have been it. Gosh, that's a little hard for me because I was always team Michelson growing up. So I didn't take joy in a lot of those early tiger moments. So in a weird way, like as a just a fan of him, probably today for me.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Is that makes sense? I mean, is that makes sense? Yeah, of course. I don't, I was like, when you asked it, I was like, you can't say today, that's way too recent. And it probably isn't, just because if it, honestly, like if you'd have won Valsbar when it was a total shock,
Starting point is 00:51:06 that probably would have done it. I don't know, the 2000 PGA, I just, that making that put against Bob May and then running it, then just feeling like that, that I don't know, wonderments the word, but like that feeling of like,
Starting point is 00:51:21 he's got 20 more years of this, can do whatever. That's probably what I, like my favorite memory, I would say, but. the word but like that feeling of like he's got 20 more years of this can do whatever. That's probably what I like my favorite memory I would say, but I don't know. I mean, I asked a question. Like growing up a rat like near Chicago and just going to the western open every year and like going with my friends and like watch like seeing him in person for the first time Which is so stupid, but I know that anybody listening to this podcast is going to relate and you guys probably real human
Starting point is 00:51:53 Yeah, you guys relate to it to him sure it's just like watching my TV every week that he plays all week And then actually like seeing him in the flesh and like, oh my god, like that to me growing up, I'm like, oh, like that guy's on the level of like the pope as like people of just like these, these aren't like real people that exist. So I'm like, oh no, there he is. He's walking right there. And he like just acknowledged just like hat to us.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Like that's incredible. So like one of those days probably like seeing him for the first time was was was pretty cool. Uh, I bet if you asked Tiger, he'd say seeing you for the first time. No, no, no, no, I always, it's regrettable. I've never had the chance to ask him about that. Can I change my answer, actually? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:33 1999 Memorial Tournament. 13 12 year old me is trying to get a Tiger Woods autograph on the Wednesday afternoon. What's 12 year old you like what's it was he really fired up about? What's 12 year old you like what's it was he really fired up about? What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his
Starting point is 00:52:48 What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his
Starting point is 00:52:56 What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his
Starting point is 00:53:01 What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his What's his I had my Nike golf hat on. I'm trying to get his autograph in between the 10th and 11th hole at Mirafield Village. And I got to that spot, like a whole and a half in advance to get my position, to get the autograph. I had my blue Sharpie and my program out,
Starting point is 00:53:15 ready to get his autograph. And by the time he got there, so many more people had filled in behind me. And next to me, my arms are just stuck out into the walkway, reaching out trying to get his autograph. And he comes by and my hat gets knocked off as people are reaching over me,
Starting point is 00:53:30 and he comes right by and I don't even see him, but I just feel him brush up against my hand. He feels as or as he walks by. And my buddies were behind me, and I'm like, hey, did you get the autograph? I'm like, no, I didn't, but the guys, I think I just wrote on Tiger Woods' shirt. And they're like, sure, whatever, man.
Starting point is 00:53:51 We go up to the tee box and he's talking with Butch Harmon on the tee. And he's got a white shirt on and they look at his left chest. And he has a blue streak from his left chest all the way across the street. Martin Lawrence. Oh, great, man. 100% I wrote on his shirt with my blue Sharpie.
Starting point is 00:54:08 And I have two friends that will testify to this. Ross Babbard and Tony Monovano, if you're listening. And I go home and I tell my mom this story and she's probably like, yeah, I'm sure, whatever. And they show a little news clip and like, and Tiger Woods is in town at the Memorial Tournament. He picks his ball up out of the 18th hole. Blue Striek, as clear as day on TV from his left chest is left sleeve.
Starting point is 00:54:29 That's my favorite time. That might be the reason he changes his shirt now. That might be, that might be a real one. Have you left an indelible mark on that? I might be responsible for the Sharpie policy. Like the players have to have the Sharpies and fans are not supposed to stick them out. So that's a hundred percent true story, by the way. We're gonna get an invoice from Steini if you hear this.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Yeah, yeah. 65 bucks for a new maybe with some juice running too. That's true. Yeah, yeah. All right, Tron, you got to tell us your favorite. I think mine, I think it was 2000. I'm gonna go 2000 pebble, but not the US open. Ooh, that's a deep cut.
Starting point is 00:55:00 That's your favorite takes favorite day. No, I was just thinking about this. And I was like what was like the the moment when everything was like just so like anything could happen and I think like I remember watching him on like 15 I think you hold out he was playing against Matt Goggle that was a Monday finish and like you know there weren't many people on the course and it was kind of foggy and stuff. And that was- That was a little red sweater, too. Yeah, that was fucking awesome.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Yeah. Like, and I just remember, like, I don't know if I was like, hey, I was probably in, like, freshman study hall or something watching it, like, sneaking, you know, into someone with a TV, like watching that. Dr. Nick and Peter Lab. Yeah, and it was like, man, like, that was, that was like, to me, the ultimate,
Starting point is 00:55:46 because it wasn't a major, it was almost more intimate. You know, it was like, hey, here's Tiger. But you know what else is up there? That's the thing, dude, the majors don't like, spring to mind for whatever role. I don't know why that is. This year's PGA watching it here, and like, it takes a lot to get like,
Starting point is 00:56:01 Tron excited, and like every time he's stuck in iron, it would just be like, what? It's like a statue. So like, Mar from home. Yeah, that's pretty much what I was. People on Twitter, like they think I don't like Tiger. Like I like Ty, like he's like,
Starting point is 00:56:15 yeah, but between Sean's and Sean's favorite athletes of all time. Come on, but I just, come on. It just takes me so much to like, I don't want to get my hopes up because I don't want to be disappointed. up because I don't want any disappoint. It's hard to believe it's actually going to happen. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:57:07 How cool. I've got a little bit of a trigger. I'm going to get it. I'm going to get it. I'm going to get it. I'm going to get it. Bon voyage. I'm going to tie it.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Almost by the time this is posted, I'll be gone. So is that news to me? I'm ready for any such a shit. Should we pump the pump? Should we pump the contest? Yeah, I think you just did. I just flagged out. Sorry. Sorry. All right. On that. I just flacked out. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:57:25 All right, on that note, we're leaving it. Cheers. Enjoy one of the best weeks in all of golf. Cheers! Great. Ready's got post-tigers. That's the shoulder. Let's get it right club.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Be the right club today. Yes! Ready? That's better than most. I think the right club, be the right club today. I think that's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Expect anything different?

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