No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 196: Honda Classic Recap

Episode Date: March 4, 2019

Keith Mitchell has won the 2019 Honda Classic, and we recap his back-nine run, the charges made by Koepka and Rickie down the stretch, Vijay almost winning a tour event at 56 years old, the... The post NLU Podcast, Episode 196: Honda Classic Recap appeared first on No Laying Up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. we're gonna get through today. This has been a lot of fun to go through. Love the voice mail. Yeah. There's, get in and get out. I think is the general theme to people that we'll tell you. For sure.

And there's a lot of getting grabbed bombs. Yes. I couldn't have said it better. Ask your question, get out. But we were gonna welcome people harassing colors, harassing each other. Yeah. And we're gonna get to some of that.

But, a lot of questions directed towards Randy. So we had to wait, make sure he got back, the big guy got back from dinner to record this podcast. We'll get to that but once you kick us off with with our first question. Yeah, first voicemail, let's do it. Hey guys, this is Brian from Jacksonville, Florida. I just played Rose in Augustin today for the first time in shadow 126. So that's what I'm at mentally right now. Anyway, my question for you guys is, how did this point where you guys that keeps Mitchell

wanted on 18 today? I know it's great for him being a first time PGA-12 winner and all, but how did this point where you that didn't go to playoffs with Brooks and Ricky and Walt? Thanks guys and I love your content. Listen Randy was tickled. Yeah, so I was picking my parents up from New York port and I was listening most of the time on shout out series XM shout out Chuck and Pegg. Yeah, my parents and shout out John Rollins

and who else is on series. Anyway, they did a great job. So I didn't have eyes on the event. So I was a little nervous, you know, you never quite sure what's going on in the car and TC's firing off chipss fire and off chips, Bill Cosby, J.S. lesson, right? Yeah, I get to the cell phone waiting on my phone's just exploding, my brother-in-law's text to me, like, Ricky, Ricky, Ricky, I'm like, oh, God, what's going on? So, Nielis, to say I was very relieved

when I learned of Keith's triumph at the 18th hole. I don't think it's, I get the question, we all were kind of rooting for a playoff, but we're not like disappointed that Keith Mitchell wanted a bit. He wanted, he wanted. He did, and it doesn't really matter like for Keppko or Brickie's legacy

if they would have won today. It doesn't matter to me. I would have been more entertained by a playoff. Well, no, I think it's preferable that Brooks didn't win. Yes, correct. Well, you had a think it's preferable that Brooks didn't win. Yes, correct. Well, you had a good take earlier, or maybe that was Randy,

about cheapening legacies. Well, yeah, it's like the Annel Cabrera. Yeah, we said, Brooks has really tarnished his, his C.J. Cup win. His career record. Yeah. His C.J. Cup and Phoenix Open. That's like those wins shouldn't have happened,

just like the Greenbrower shouldn't have happened for Annel Cabrera. Yeah, I think that's what you said like the green brayer shouldn't have happened for Annel Cabrera. Yeah, I think that's what you said. Nothing is tarnished, it's more than Annel Cabrera winning the green brayer. Exactly right. It's growing up basically a perfect game. The like the best career ever, in my opinion. Sure.

Well, along that, along that note, we have another voicemail. Yeah, let's go to the next one. This is Jack Berks from Alex Stink and Tucky. Keith Mitchell is clearly knock off off brand Brooks Keppga Does that mean that Keith Mitchell will win all of Brooks Keppgas PGA tour wins because Brooks refuses to live under par? Thank you. It's a great question This is it's a question everyone's gonna be asking. Do we think Brooks refuses to live under par? I've thought so until he won the CJ cup. I feel like he kind of I feel like he kind of embodies the live under par lifestyle I feel like he kind of, I feel like he kind of embodies the live under part of life. I feel like the the the PGA tour events that you win outside of like that that aren't domestic.

Don't really count towards live under par stuff. That's fair. That's in the bylaws for sure. That's definitely in there. I like that. I think Brooks is a repressed live under par. Well, I was going to say he strikes me as a big a big work hard play hard guy. Yeah, it was like he was like he was somebody who would say I work hard, but I think he is a repressed live under par. Well, I was gonna say he strikes me as a big work hard play

hard guy. He's like, he's somebody who would say I work hard, but I can't. Like, I think he embodies it, but he's not, he hasn't admitted it to himself. He's deep in the Mick Ultras scene. That's what I mean. Mick Ultras kind of like the official beer

of living in a park. It's the, what's that? Like, the young, the giant song. My body tells me no. We found out in strap, too. That's Neil's alarm clock, which he picked because he said he hates that song. It's rather alarming. It makes him get up.

I think I would have liked to say that Brooks refuses to live under par, but I can't get the video of him accepting the player of the year trophy out of my head with Dustin. This bad boy is coming home with me. He's bought it. I'm sorry. How about the fact that Brooks, they said this on the telecast and kind of stopped me in my tracks That he won player the year last year missing four months of the season with injury and he didn't play the master and didn't win a regular PGA tour of it last year. I didn't even realize that that's why

What do we think of the new Brooks? Well, we'll get back to Keith Mitchell here It's like but what do we think of the new Brooks Capca kind of just firing off takes and quotes and all this stuff I think it's great. Yeah, I'm all in love with it. Do you, right? Yeah. I feel like this is the Brooks that I was originally in love with, like four years ago. Exactly.

I truly just like did not give a fuck and he kind of got quiet and kind of boring there for a while. And I think he kind of, I think you looked inward. Yeah. He kind of was like, yeah, why does anybody ask me questions? I don't get the attention. It's like, dude, you don't say anything. And now he's like, all right all right well if I want like actual attention

I've got to start saying some things I think I think I've kind of wanted to not like what he's saying and just oh like Yeah, he's just looking for attention like no, he's actually I agree with I think yeah, I think what kind of all the spade is paid everyone out there on tour like has takes and like has opinions No, or not very they're all just really repressed. Yes. And not a lot of people are actually willing to say things and like say it out in public. So good on him. And then he kind of went back to the well on the whole like not really into golf thing

this week, which I felt like he was getting away from. That's a bad take. I know. He was kind of like he felt like he was going to walk away. And I know that there's some stuff going on in his personal life a couple years ago that he was kind of referring to and how he just didn't want to be involved in golf and kind of He was asked to expand on it and he didn't want to which I understand that but kind of like faking like he was gonna quit golf a little bit I don't know if that's what he meant or if that's how people took it and ran with it

But I'm so over that I'm not a golfer. I think he's I think he's a little bit It's a tough week for him and I felt combined going on I think he's a little bit it's a tough week for him NFL combines going on Yeah, I feel like he's got some measurables and he's not he's not delivering on well I was gonna say if you want to be an athlete go prove that you're an athlete sure, you know like Dion did bow jack You didn't you didn't walk on to the Florida State Seminole football team when you were there on campus John Smalls proved he was a golfer this way. Exactly. At the champion store. Yeah. Yeah. How he played.

I don't know. That's a load. I don't know. You're setting me up for failure. Shout out Marco Miro. Like I saw it, but I didn't care enough though. Yeah. I mean, I know he's out there doing it.

I respect that. Totally. Sting, also a big hero of mine. I don't really listen to his music. Can we go back to our boy playing Royal, Royal, St. Augustine? Yeah. And they're heard of that.

Is that a real place? I thought you guys played there. Is that where you guys played when we were up at Strap? No, we were played at Lost Marsh or something like that. Some Marsh. I don't know. 126, man. 126.

I don't know what's a lot of stuff. What kind of advice you got for someone who's hanging up on 126? There's got to be some universal advice. Get really drunk and then put the club the way it's like three months. I think I'm of two minds. I think that he, I think it's really cool

and people say things and then they blow over really quickly and everybody realizes that it's not a big deal to say stuff unless you're tiger or, you know, that's pretty much it. Like everybody forgets about it immediately and it's never a big deal You just say what's on your mind and that's what Rory has been the best at that for his whole you know His whole career considering the best at it considering his profile correct if we could just ween Rory off the golf pass commercial Yeah, now unfortunately those those takes are behind the paywall apparently, but

Yeah, and how unfortunately those those takes are behind the paywall apparently, but That's one and then the two that like kind of I get no respect Act whiffs a little bit of kind of like the patreon. It's like, you know, we're the underdog. No one respects us You're almost like post-respect like everyone like respects you so much that they just I don, like you haven't even had a chance to defend the two majors that you hold right now. Yeah. Well, and it's also like what does respect even mean in golf? It's not like you don't get into a vent. He's not like not getting into events. Or like, well, he was pissed. He was pissed always about like the, which you kind of touched on, but the, you know, I just shot, I just shot 68. Nobody wants to interview me. What the hell? And to your point, it was kind of touched on, but I just shot 68. Nobody wants to interview me.

What the hell? And to your point, it was kind of like, yeah, you're not gonna say anything. Which, I don't know. It's a trickener the egg, right? Yeah, it's very strictly. It's, is it, I don't know, with Brooks, it's a little bit like, hey man, if you're gonna,

if you're gonna be the bad boy or whatever, just lean into that,, like, nothing matters. Yeah, we say this every week, like nothing matters. What, you might as well go have fun with it. Well, I was gonna say, I want the overarching takeaway here to be, like, keep firing. Yes, keep more of this, Brooks, it's been awesome. For sure.

Maybe he's looking to be glossed Mr. Keppka, the ultimate signers, but that's true. Do you think he was pissed that like he wasn't included in the original Big Four or or the SP2K boys? Anything like that. That's maybe the sign, maybe he was supposed to be smiley. I think as JT, who's the hardest guy? Maybe smiley guy so that Brooks can live.

Who's the hardest guy to get out of the house or get out on the course in Jupiter? And he said Brooks immediately. He's the hardest guy. When he goes home, he get out on the course in Jupiter and he said Brooks immediately? Yeah, he's the hardest guy like when he goes home he like truly He's a home, but I don't even I respect I respect the shit out of this even touch a club We I'm I'm here for the the world of interesting Brooks. Yeah, like that's so good for everybody in ball But I but at the end of that I want Brooks to be interesting. I don't just want Brooks to be Interesting because he's been close to be authentic.

It has mysterious, authentic, right? All right, cool. Now, like, you're gonna be upfront about stuff. Cool. Keep being interesting and don't just be... I don't think I was imagining it. Like, when he came on the screen this week, I was more interested than I was at any point in the fall

or anything, but I was just like, it's a different perspective of like, all right. Now, if I have kind of more of a reason to root for this guy, then I'm gonna be more intrigued when he's- He's really, really, really, really good. I think it's like, it's like him, like if everybody's playing their best,

where I've kind of gotten to the point where I thought Rory was, like Rory's top end was the best, I think JT is the number one player in the world now. I think we just said it was DJ last week. Yeah, we said it was DJ last week. But I don't know, man, I think matters. Nothing matters. Nothing matters.

See how quickly people get together. No, but say what one hell you want. There is a big four. It's in no particular JT, DJ, Brooks. And a player better say Justin Rose. Like, no. Oh my better say Justin Rose like no. Oh, I got Justin Rose. This is just when they're honors is like,

no, this is this is this is like top end. It's like it's like JT. JT Brooks DJ and Rory are that like their top end is higher than anybody else's top. Justin Rose has to be like, no, absolutely has to. Unequivocally not. I think I'm with you, Tron. Take it all away. I got a really good.

We got a voicemail from somebody across the pond a little bit later that some people this table are going to have to answer for. But we'll get some more calls about Justin Rose not going to be included on that list. Back to Keith Mitchell. I Stuart Moore tweeted this, I forgot that he was the last man out. It's a 2017 web finals. That's kind of cool to see.

It's kind of gut-runging. Things changed quickly. Yeah, now he's a winner on the PGA tour. He birdied four of the last seven holes, including he birdied 12, 13, 15, and 18. And one thing Zinger kept pounding on and I know Zinger's kind of had a little bit of a rough start

No, he was really good today. I thought he was good today He kept saying like like when people are nervous you leave putts short Yeah, you watch like VJ left a couple of putts like shaky short I mean VJ is different though, right? But he was like Keith Mitchell is getting every single one of these putts to the hall He's putting with confidence and then we needed to make a putt on the 18th create a win in tournament He drained it. That was awesome. He didn't lip any in either. No, they were like they were buried and he bokeh. I was surprised that VJ made as many

potasks he did. He did. Keith Mitchell made he bokeh the first two holes today and then played the rest of the rest. I thought he was going to get vaporized at their start. So shout out to the course. Of course it was awesome today. It was, you know, I mean, another new greens and everything. There was, it was proper golf. Like you had to play it in the front and actually use slopes and take a little bit and it was, it was, it was fun to watch. Well, we all looked at each other that, that par three

laid on the front. I don't know if it's like seven or eight. Mm-hmm. It was playing like two, 33 in guys are hitting seven iron. We're like, what the hell? And it was downwind, but it was like, it was downwind, you had to land another front, you had to roll through the swell, it was really cool.

And it's kind of piercing a little bit. The golf course, maybe we'll get even more about the golf course later, but I don't think I would ever want to play it. I think I would shoot a hundred. No, we talked about it the other day, we would pay not to play it. I think if someone said you could play it for free,

or you could pay $20 to not play it, I would maybe pay to play it. I think if someone said you could play it for free Or you could pay $20 to not play it I would maybe pay the $20 because I would go be like our boy and shoot 126 and Just lose all my golf balls and they would be no fun But as a tournament golf test like that was awesome to watch today I thought it was super fun. You had to hit golf shots and it's just you know You could show it. Yeah, it shows the difference between tournament golf and recreational golf. And how much more intriguing it is to have firm greens. No I think this is like a kind of a bad course for firm greens because you can't run up the like there's just water everywhere. So there's not

like any front paint is just yes. I'm prepared to be shut down on this take a little bit but I know we talk about how golf courses like don't have to be green and you you know, down with brown and how the tour seemingly jumps up the saturation on some of these broadcasts. I could use a little more saturation on that golf course. I don't know why, but how shiny out there. Always comes in like weirdly brownish green,

but not like dried out, but I don't know why that's really. I don't think green's gonna fix that golf course. No, I don't either, but for some reason it's so bad condos around there. Like it's super brown is actually really appealing, but that color is now appealing to me. It's not important, but I just need to get that off my chest. I appreciate you sharing that. Yeah, listen, it's a, it's just, it's a, it's a, it's a safe place to be, to be good to do that. You ready to get into Ricky? I think you

have something that'll, uh, yeah, let's just off there. Just keep moving. Hey guys, it's uh, Ricky from Randy's Keister. I'm a good question for a large Randall. I wonder why do you always use big words that nobody uses in their common vocabulary? Like, either you have a humble brag, or just trying to flex on us, or you're a part-time question maker for the GMAT. Either way, I don't get it, man. There you have it. Wow. Shot's fired. Let's go to Randy for his response. I, uh, but first of all, was Ricky really in my keys, sir?

Yeah, he was. He actually was. 15, 17, and 18, too. He was in the atrium, like the little waiting room in the little entrance area. He had an appointment for sure that he showed up early for. And he was just sitting out there with you.

He was still on the paperwork. Yeah. I won't gloss it a back door second. No, but there were whiffs because teeth was at eight the whole time. And you ride a new car almost back to what I wanted. Yeah. You got it. There were tones.

You have to give it. You were oaky tones of a back door. You definitely have to give credit to Ricky today. For sure. You all had credit to Ricky today for sure He That's no Fudge that's what he was talking about I mean what is PMI even mean he he He did while he wobbled dance he wobbled himself a whole early and then he but then he was nails and then he tried to fight out

Ultimately when it didn't matter. Hey though. What? How do you feel about the post game? He was waiting for... Well, I didn't see it. He was waiting for... He was in the group ahead. He was waiting for Keith Mitchell. That's like first, first win.

That's a class, right? You know, maybe he was two groups. It's cool to see you guys won so much. You know, he knows what that's like. It's, you know, he's passing it on a little bit. He won, you know, one, two, three, four, five times. Five events. How many runner-up career runner-ups do you guys think Ricky has?

Probably not many, because I feel like he either lights himself on fire or... He has 14 career runner-ups. Oh, okay. He has had a runner-up every year that he's played, every year since 2009, except for 2013. He's had at least one runner up. That's a lot. Ricky plays a lot of really good golf.

Yeah. I'll say this, he's a good putter. Dude, yeah, yeah, he never really feel comfortable. Like, I think he's just a really good golfer. I don't think he's very good. I don't think he's gonna, like his course management irks me sometimes. What was up with that?

We mentioned that 230 yard, part three, I forget who a whole that is. The number seven. Seven. God, he was like 40 yard short with like, like, white beef fanny. He just hit, he makes some weird swings and weird decisions sometimes.

And like, like, going back to Phoenix, it's cold and kind of rainy. And he's hitting irons off T's on yeah, you know 440 400 you are for yeah, it's like hey man, do it. You do you know I think he did miss about a three and a half footer at one point today on number 10 and then went for the spike mark Blame which is like which is a tough well We're gonna get into rule stuff here in a second, but it's like really hard for me to get, like, on the player's side on this,

when they're not gonna use the new rules to their advantage. It's like, all right, like, if dude if I was playing for this much money, I would know the new rules. Like, yeah, I know you think they suck, but you have to know how they work. Anyways, VJ Singh, 56 years old. That was a shot of life today.

Almost won a PGA Tour event today. That was, I was rooting really hard for that. I couldn't picture myself. They were chaining his name on the set of life today. Almost won a PGA Tour event today. That was, I was rooting really hard for that. I couldn't picture myself. They were chaining his name on the seventh interval. That's maybe the first time they've ever chained to be chained to be chained. Time heals all wounds. No one knows.

I did a deep dive on VJ today. Kind of pre just to get myself amped off. I don't know, it's like it's wild and VJ. Like he hasn't had, I guess that shackle for tweet that was making the rounds. Did you see that? Like old takes exposed, picked it up. It was like VJ, it was shackle for going back

with and forth with Bob Estes. And VJ hadn't had a top 10 in four or five years. And I don't think he's had one since, but shack was basically like, yeah, like why is he still playing the main tour and all that? And then, you know, he goes into the day and he really, really showed well today. I mean, I thought he made some big putts

to the shot on, was it 17? Yeah. That was a bummer. That was a major bummer. Very soon, I'm surprised he didn't play that from the water I mean, granted like obviously he had a to get a better view of it Then I did maybe couldn't get down to the ball or it was too steep or something but trying to win But PJ's so like I'm so torn on the guy is he like I I think he's one of the great minutes of our time pretty sure

He's not a good guy I'm pretty sure he's not a good guy. Like I'm almost a hundred percent sure that he's not a good guy, but he's like, like you said, he's a total man. Like he doesn't give a fuck. No, he's, I don't know, either way. You know, it had become the forgot man for a while, but it's really been fucking, it's had lately,

is the lifetime exemption. Well, you know, let's go to say they're gonna like he's gonna there was some guy they gave a lifetime free pass on the airline pass too. I forget what airline did it. And they gave him like a first class free pass and he George Clooney gained the system like just like would fly to Detroit and have lunch. And like basically, he I got so much out of this lifetime pass that like he they sold it to him but they like no way will he'll ever like make money off this or whatever and he just gained them for ever and they'll never give another one and they like waited for him to make one little

technical slip up and it was like he brought someone with him that he wasn't supposed to Bob on they axed it. I feel like they're the PJ Tours is waiting to take away. And the lifetime of the matches, but would read that guys. So we're big fans of the process. Of course. Right. We love, like, you know what, if we hit a bad shot, it's fine. As long as our process was good.

Right. I feel like VJ may love the process more than anybody. For sure. Totally. I'll never forget the 2014 Memorial. He's playing a practice round. And some dude just like comes up to like this dude wearing all brown Just like starts talking to him from the stands and giving him swing tips

And VJ listens to every single word and the guy hands him his business card And he's like you you give me a call I'll come out and I'll come visit you at your expense I'll come out and we and I'll give you tips and like VJ was seriously legitimately entertaining it I was like dumbfounded about watching the whole thing. I'm like, is he making fun of me? Like, I was just, I was reading stuff today. Like, he's just feeling, like he's always had this chip on his shoulder from ever since the Stevie Williams calling him

out for stuff on the Asian tour way back in the day. And then, you know, all the dear antler stuff and that whole lawsuit and all that. But at the end of the day, VJ's whole thing is like, I feel like he's at ease on the range hitting golf balls. He's like, when I hit a golf ball and when I control the distance and when I see it leave the face and I know I've hit it, like I wanted to hit it, that's the most satisfying thing in the world.

And that's like totally. And that's more gratifying than even winning. Like I just, I want to have that feeling over and over and that's like totally. And that's more gratifying than even winning. I just, I wanna have that feeling over and over and over again every day. How much we think VJ's made in this career? Off top your head. On course. On course.

All the GJ tours. Just VJ tours. Every dollar. I just saw it. I was cooking. I saw it. I was like 42 million. 71 million dollars.

Doesn't include the FedEx cup. 10 million either. That's, that's, that's. That's including the FedEx. That's not excluding the FedEx. He's third all time in money. Yeah. 34 career wins. He had what?

He had how many wins after 40? Which I think that's the one that Tiger said. Like 20 of them or something. Yeah, Tiger was like, that's what I wanted. Like that's my next crusade is to basically. He might not get there. I don't know He won like nine times one year didn't he?

2004, yeah, the middle of tigers Prime we might never see it again. This might have been the last one the last flash But that was incredibly counted out man I mean we may need to do like a VJ topic pod. Yeah, I have to the deep dive because I think that would be really interesting That's a great idea because I feel like he's one of the more underappreciated players. Yeah, total time. Let's get into some USGA stuff. What do you think? Let's do it. Love to. But real quick, before we do that, it is worth noting that it is officially March and our friends at Calaway are bringing the heat with their new limited edition Chromesoft Shamrock

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Pick up yours before they're gone. CallawayGolf.com or at your nearest golf retailer. Let's get back to the phone lines. pick up yours before they're gone. CallawayGolf.com or at your nearest golf retailer. Let's get back to the phone lines. It's golf from whiskey, I've heard in Southern California have to tell you guys that I think the rant by Justin Thomas this week against the USGA and the follow-up rant by other tour players

is something the USGA needs to address. The rules got to change. The drops are ridiculous. Ricky made fun of it this week. Oh, doing great if you don't want to after making fun of it. Follow that up with horrendous, horrendous, uh, with this caddy lineup stuff. And finally, the pin-in can out fiasco, slow play. Please got to deal with the stuff. So keep the good work up, guys. Hope you guys can step a little bit of the JTU ramp onto the pod and we'll just do it later. Thanks.

You should put his kid on. I would like to hear his kids opinion. Yeah, it sounded like he was pretty. The kid was fired up in the background. So this kind of stemmed from my FedEx cup or a FredEx cup member. Adam Shank was penalized two strokes for his caddy standing behind him as he lined up a shot in the bunker. I think I think we all stand with you. Yeah, that had to be a kind of personal. It was bullshit. And anyways, they didn't let him know for another 24 hour or so.

Yeah, so PJ Tork communications tweets it out. JT like quotes retweeted with a hashtag grow the game. And yeah, somebody chimed in and said something like play. Just follow the rules. And JT says totally agree. I'm more so say things in hopes that the USGA starts communicating with the current players to better the game in the sport.

The rules are rules, no getting past that. Just hope going forward, communication is had, and all golfers benefit from any changes. USGAPR, Twitter, it kind of knows the thing. Yeah, says hold my beer. Justin, we need to talk. You've canceled every meeting we've planned with you, but we were reaching out again.

We were at the first five events and tournaments last year, and your tour has had a seat at the table for seven years. We'd love nothing more than to give you a seat. Call us. I love the seat at the table metaphor, by the way. That's one of my favorites. All right, so this was JT After's Round Today. This was tweeted by PJ Tours' Mike McCallister.

It is unfortunate. It was just, it really hurt me. It was upsetting to me because they were putting the information they put out. There was an accurate in terms of me canceling meetings and that doesn't make me look at them. And that's when, that's just when I got a little upset and then we had talks and communication with them because, you know, I know those guys have talked and then we have talked in communication with them because I know those guys have talked to them, I've talked to them about the rules this year, I've talked

to them that we've all tried to communicate and try to get better relationships with them. It's just, it is what it is and all we're looking is better to support in terms of the game. All right, thank you guys. All right, so there you have it. I think with the rules, it's important to separate out this one in particular with the rest of the changes, right?

Like Ricky being upset about the drop thing, I think is kind of bullshit. It's like, dude, that's the rule. Like you didn't follow it. Yeah. And that's what it means. If you hear the philosophy behind the drop thing, like I know it looks so, so fucking stupid,

but it kinda makes sense where, all right, cool, it's like in order to avoid three drops from shoulder height, we're just gonna do this, and then hopefully that eliminates 20 seconds here and there, that's fine. But I think the issue with this rule about the caddy lineup thing is like the way it was

interpreted the first couple of times, we're like, whoa, wait a second here. That is not kind of the whole thing that's supposed to be about intent. All the rule changes were intent. How tall Lee getting the penalty and then Danny McCarty getting the penalty. We're like, wait, the caddy was just standing back there not lining them up, but happened to be with him. All right. Cool. We're talking about intent. There's guys out there that are anchoring their putters. Well, yeah, that's insane. They don't say they don't intend to.

But that's going to be intent, but you're going to say that a caddy is going to line a guy up out of a fucking greenside bunker. Yeah, is that real? So that's kind of where the biggest JTT. got really worked up when that happened to Danny McCarthy and almost happened to him, many got penalized and fiend, or he almost got penalized and fiends. So then the tour just like put a pause on calling penalties until there's further clarification on it. And then Adam Schink got this penalty and like riled everybody all up again. So I do for the most part, I'm like, guys, these are the rules now. Like you should understand how to drop it, where to put it, blah, blah, blah.

All of that, I separate out from this, like the way this rule continues to be interpreted. You guys agree, disagree? No, I totally agree with that. I think a lot of the stems, a lot of it stems from the USDA just becoming like an approved punching bag. It's amazing.

Which, on one hand, I feel for, I feel for them a little bit because it's gonna get to this point now where it's like they can do nothing right. And it's just gonna be like a five year. So you gotta burn it down. It's just, yeah, it's gonna be a five year hurdle that there's nothing they can do to win people back,

other than just wait, which on the other end is fucking funny. And like it's kind of sweet. But they've also been like, they've been asleep at the wheel on every major issue for the last 10 years. So they've kind of dug their grave on that. But so my big thing is with the tour, these guys did have ample opportunity to say their piece and to, and what do these guys mean? The tour of the players? No, the players. Well, like, you know, like the tour is the players. Right.

I think that's the thing that's being lost here. Like the tour, the tour is the players are certain guys. You know, there's certain mechanism here that's representing the players. And I think the players are so disconnected from the game at large that they're not responding to. All right, cool. Like it's, you don't like these rules, like say Say something and they don't and they don't respond to that and then you know push comes a shove and the rules are out there and Well, you guys never consulted us on this and no like we did you guys just

Thought it was gonna be interpreted differently because you're PJ tour player That's the hard part is I think that during the whole the whole feedback period It's still hard to weigh in on something until you actually see it. It's not material. Yeah, yeah. I think overall, like I don't know what the rule than rule changes have accomplished. And their defense, like it's again, two separate things.

Like these are the rules in place, like go follow them and kind of shut up. Separate thing, the rules haven't really affected anything positively. I wouldn't say. Well, the whole thing too is like, Adam's not fun better. What's the point of maybe?

All right, the pin, leaving the pin in, that's, that's increased the time to play around. I think it's just you had a potential again, a chance for like PGA tour to be like, all right, we're not going to follow this because like for us playing golf, it definitely helps us go faster. We're not, nope, we're not in the group of people that are going to make, all right, well, I want it in. You won it out. But if we are playing a competitive round

and you say, all right, cool word, you won it in, you won it out, like that sort of thing, that gets cumbersome, but also like, all right, cool. Like what, doesn't matter what the rules are, if you're not gonna enforce them. And so, I got two points on that. The first one is the whole lining up thing was basically in response to the LPGA tour. Right.

There's been no controversy on the LPGA tour this year with lining up. Yeah. Well, it's a... And no caddies on the PGA tour are really lining up their players. Like, I don't think that's been an issue ever. Like, and I think we would call a guy out, even if it was legal, we'd call a guy out if this caddy was lying on the wall. But this also is like an entirely a TV issue.

So again, the top players are screwed. Like I don't think any one of these penalties has been like, oh, I was watching and you did this. It's like, no, I saw this highlight on TV. Exactly. I saw this clip on TV, that's a penalty. So again, it kind of targets the players that are on TV. But then be like, all right, if you're gonna have the rules

and you're going to have the, like, there's, there's totally selective enforcement. Yes. Oh, without a doubt. Pace of play. Cool. Like, somebody like JB Holmes or somebody, you know, there's, there's 20 or 30 really, really slow guys out there on tour and they knew who they are.

And they're like that because they can be like that. And the tour has let them be like that. And, and I said, like, it's like looting. Like, just because they're not enforcing it, doesn't mean you're not doing the wrong thing. Schwartz on a rules official got into it on Thursday. They got put on the clock. He's playing with Ben Crane.

And you can't make out what they're saying, but he's like extremely animated and pretty much yelling at the rules official. Like basically like, look who I'm playing with. Like of course, maybe even then, like to put it put it so even if he gets a bad time all right cool you get 10 bad times you get fine 20k yeah cool like you know the bad player like the very slow players are gonna are gonna keep playing slow because they're gonna make up you know it's just it's so it's very gutless in my

opinion Randy got anything to add before we move on So I think you guys covered it. I'm sorry. I get so fucking fired up about this stuff You want to move on to let's talk a little bit about the television coverage? I Guys, this is John from New York. I just want to know what is NBC thinking not showing either Ricky or Brooks's drive on 18th. Well, the show. Thanks, guys. Yeah, we're a little, we got more voice mails about coverage and commercials and everything that I think we got anything else for the record.

So that's why we're circling back in on it. DJ is still, I'm still retired. You're amazing. Absolutely retired. I'm fishing. I'm working out every morning, you know, I'm just enjoying retirement. Guys, guys, are we going to start getting hate mail from the Comcast NBC universal execs to be I don't know if this is I didn't watch it. Brian Roberts starts bucking his head. A ton of golf until today. I'm worried about

this Sunday formula. I thought Mexico Sunday was like a ton of commercials. Today felt a lot like a ton of commercials. I felt a lot like a ton of commercials. I don't wanna get the timer out. I might have to get my hitter TC back on the stopwatched counting commercials again, but it feels like there's a huge lot of commercials and then also on top of that we have playing through. It doesn't seem like they figured out.

They're using the playing through. It's completely been abused, I think. And again, consider this a warning. I don't want to get the stopwatch out, but that's all anybody was talking about. I had that last hour was supposed to, it was insane. We had five guys tied for the lead,

and you got another voicemail for it. Yeah, someone else weighed in on this. Okay. Hey guys, this is Glades from Saratoga. Every year after Super Bowl, I always get a kick out of what people think was the best commercial and I'm really looking forward to seeing all the articles tomorrow as to what was the best commercial during the Honda Classic. Thank you. It's gotta be PDF like a boss. It's a great

question from Glades. Glades. I haven't heard that name. I like the plugin. Yeah yeah yeah. Saratoga too. Yeah yeah he's he's he's he's living room repartor at uh at the at watching the pony watching the pony yeah it'll be bets the pony uh gosh favorite commercial that's that's a great it's a great question pdf like a boss I believe was mentioned already um I got a numby the the the rowy golf pass commercial we yes that was it's it's, it's reaching a tipping point. It's like a Hall of Fame level. Which one of the,

standing in the Hall of Fame level commercial? Which one of the six different Ricky commercials? There are a lot of this. But I think it kind of goes to, and we've said this when we've done heavy CBS criticisms, like we don't give enough blame to the tour on these things. And it's like, they've sold, but I don't know exactly how it works, but basically there's a fixed number of commercials that

have to be reached in a certain period, blah, blah, blah. And man, when it gets really exciting, it, like, it sticks out even more and has no, and Eddie Pepper all tweeted us today. He's like, I was watching American golf. He's in the States. Yeah. What's he's an Austin right now? And he's just like, I, this is unbearable. Like, I can't believe people watch golf this way. And because he's used to like the sky broadcast and somebody replied like, Sky's just as bad. He goes, it's really not. So I don't know, man, it's like, God, how you can miss out on Brooks and Ricky on the fine on the 72nd hole, team off. Like it just is maddening. We would give CBS the same amount of shit for it. So we have

to have to express kind of the disappointment like the whole like live under part Commercials thing. We're already watching the golf You don't have to show me a live under par commercial. That's that's gonna make me not watch I'm not sure what the action item is there like I don't know what you're supposed to like at least when they show me like a how to train Your this is not me talking about the telk At least when when they show you how to train your dragon commercial You're like okay, maybe they want me to go see how to train your, this is not me talking about the telcast. At least when they show you how to train your dragon commercially, you're like, okay, maybe they want me to go see how to train your dragon. That still sounds like a hypersexual.

But just a commercial that's just like live under par. It's like, yeah, fuck me. I'm like, I don't know what that, like what do you want? I don't know what that means. Am I supposed to, am I supposed to go to a website? Am I supposed to, I'm supposed to change my clothes? Am I supposed to get shit face and blackout? Am I supposed to just keep doing what I'm doing?

Don't you think? To touch on our last topic just a little bit, but I think this is in the same vein. I think it's an example of the powers that be in golf at large and there are many different organizations. These people don't get the important things right. And they just are so focused on kind of the stuff that doesn't matter. Like at the end of the day, right? Like I think that's so, and I mean, that is a indictment by Eddie,

to lay that on the broadcast. And you know, we're here talking about, well, drop hide and all this shit that does not matter at the end of the broadcast. And you know, we're here talking about, well, drop height and you know, all this shit that does not matter at the end of the day for the long term health of golf. All right. The whole point of the whole live-underpar thing is to get casual fans to watch golf. If you're a casual fan and you tuned into that broadcast today, would you watch golf objectively? Probably not. Well, that's a tough, that's a tough question because the finish was so that broadcast today, would you watch golf? Objectively. Probably not.

Well, that's a tough question because the finish was so good. It was, the commercials really, really drug away from that, I thought. That's the best finish that you could possibly ask for other than maybe cat being involved. And if you're fatigued hearing this, wanna understand, too, but also is like,

this is your product. The standard of what has become somewhat acceptable. People are like, oh, stop complaining about it. Like, listen to what we're asking for. Two of the guys that were almost in a playoff, we didn't see them play the entire last hole. Like the last hole. It's like the NFL not showing first and third down

on a key drive. It'd be like not showing free throws in the last minute of an NBA game. Like it's unbelievable that we have to ask to see the golf shots on the last hole. And then where the dick has for calling it out. Like oh my god, and I get that people are tired of hearing about it but like something has to change at some point.

Okay, I know we say it every week but like how did that happen? I can understand if it was reversed, if it was Keith Mitchell and they didn't show him on 18 and he was one shot behind, because he's not Ricky or Capca. But if you're missing those two guys, how can we have faith that you're like, keep the takes, how can we have faith that you're giving us the best viewing product?

You're not, spoiler alert. Next question. Next time. Hey, this is Sean from Nebraska. Can we talk for a second about how Wyndham rewards Clark just recklessly going for the green on 18 there and two And just how that might affect his windham rewards standings at the end of the year hashtag live under par You saw him kind of touching them all there

Was it egregious I? Didn't see his comments after the round. Maybe he thought he needed to make three and making three was more, you know, more feasible than making a two, but if he knew he needed to make a two from there, it was pretty, it was pretty great. Well, as an organization called No Lang, I know, that's something we should celebrate. That's the hard part.

I, he got, I forget somebody said like he has legendary status. I was like, yeah, if you light money on fire on the 18th hole, you just are bought. You bypass the initiation process. You're in. He also now looking back at it. I think he's playing the right game in that he only cost himself. I think somewhere between like 20 and $30,000 by Bogey in that hole.

And imagine how much more he would have made if he would have tied for second instead of finishing tied seventh. If he like, if he eagles it. His whole game is bombing gouge. Yeah. So like this is just what he does. I love it. It was a calculated risk thing. It was. I'm like, dude, like it only matters in professional golf if you have really high finishes. Well, he's a, I think the thing that you hate to see is he's one of the troops. The PXG troops, you say? Yeah. And you hate to see the PXG troops making bad decisions like that.

Well, we don't know if it could have been an intelligence mistake. We don't know if he had bad intelligence. Colin Powell, maybe. Yeah. So feeding them a bad later board in telling. It's hard just hard to say. I don't know if he knew that the key Mitchell had weapons of message. He thought he, but yeah, he thought that there were there were WFDs hitting up there

And you know just for now to you know tough tough air. How's week from when them Clark? Yeah second is Joe's game putting for Long's bricks during the scoreboard Yeah, it was a big it was a big breakout for the FedEx squad so Randy congrats to him Shout out Randy squad he's on Randy squad Randy squad finally showing signs of life Well, I was gonna say we're out of the seller. I will say that they're in the fourth place Nobody's gonna miss that 20 or 30 K more than you are well, that's right. I should have made a big dip Listen, but I I appreciate I'm going for the episode You're in fourth now. Neils and Neils in fifth correct, but but you guys are still there's a massive golf between no

No, no, no, no, it's it's closing. It's we're coming for you bud Sure, well, that's a massive golf between... No, no, no, no. No, it's closing. It's... we're coming for you, bud. Yeah. Sure. Well, that's a long season. Uh, all right, this is probably my favorite voice been all the day, I would say. Yeah, James Kuhner from England. Um, you know, don't you think it's about Tommy Boyz sub-Kuhner himself, McHoy fans?

And I mean, he's had, like, put it the best part to Fiji Tosie's now. I mean, what? First and true. Gain and promote everything at the moment. New Boyz just slagging him off. I mean, what the fuck is that and then like you know an open discussion about him being dead i mean really and then

to see i mean you can come to club american kid is playing fucking shit and then you know you know you know even even going from the slightly than i am a bento that's around that you're taken bris and that's just uh well what the fuck are you going on next thing you know you'll be supporting entrance music on the first tier sandwich all right yeah I'm annoyed crack on yeah haha god that's the kind of stuff we're looking for in the voicemails James can we be friends yeah James thanks thanks for the shot of life there I don't want to

I don't want to take it to literally here, but maybe the is very dead might be a little lost in translation. Yeah, yeah, I think that's made a little tongue in cheek. But I did, I went to bad and said that Roy McRoy has been the best play on the PGA tour so far this year. I'm not slagging him off. I think he's talking to you guys. Well, I picked him in the master's, I don't know. That's like, everything was directed at Randy. I think I was super complimentary. Ricky and er, sorry, of Rory.

And there's too many rares in our last podcast. So who was slacking them off? Was that you big, Randy? I think everybody kind of hit. Randy called him a throw and on a pitcher. I feel like you've been on that. That's a collab to take from you. Yeah.

Don't project your takes. He was quoting you. I think the most interesting thing we touched on was comparing Rory's stroke gained performance to war in baseball or PR in bass. You know, kind of take your pick of this all-en encompassing player performance metric. And I think there's an interesting discussion to be had and we don't need to do it now,

but it'll be, you know, we'll all see how it plays out going forward between, it's the age old, you know, debate between who's the most valuable players, the guy, the best guy in the team that wins the most or the guy who, you know, performs best in this all-encompassing metric. And I don't know the answer to that, but I think it is interesting. And I look forward to seeing how it plays out. Yeah, so, all right. So that's the ultimate cop out right there. What do you think thus far on the PGA tour season? I think there's, I think at least over the last few years.

Who's the MVP of the PGA tour season? There's a concerning lack of wins in what could be big spots for Rory. I think the other thing when Rory is I think Kebka has been the MVP to answer your question This year this year. No, not I guess like over the last you know 18 Cuz I think with Rory too. It's we're not we're not necessarily judging Rory against the rest of the PGA toward judging Rory Against what his potential is. For sure. Yeah. Judging Roy against not even his potential like what he has done, like actually achieved. But I feel that's part of being a great player in any sport. But back to the point though, I think it's like we were maybe a bit discounting,

like having four straight top fives is a big deal. I get it's a great sign for playing this good of golf. That's a really, really, this good of golf. And for the record, we were definitely slagging Jordan Spees. We listed all the clubs that he made and talked about how much his ball striking has decreased. So I don't know if you might be hearing what you want to hear a little bit there, James. Please don't stop sitting voicemail's like. Oh, I think he kind of had a stand to write down a couple of things. Well, that's part of the fun of being a sports fan too. And I think what this also touches on is how jaded we are in a post-tiger world. I hear correct.

You know, tiger's greatness is still fresh in our minds. And so that's the natural benchmark for finding the next great player. Are we in a post-tiger room? Are you ready to say that? Well, post-tiger winning 80 times. Like it has screwed up, we'll think of post-peak cat. Post-peak cat.-hugger winning 80 times. Yeah, post-pick cat. Yeah, yeah. But somebody, somebody winning 80 times and be like, oh, that is possible. Like, makes

us, like, look at somebody like Rory who's won like 14 times and be like, I mean, yeah, sure, that's cool. So it's not as much fun to readjust kind of our all of our expectations downward because then it's like, yeah, I guess maybe the reason that we like Rory is that he's not a sociopath or like the reason we really like him is he's not a sociopath like he's really humble and approachable. Right. A real person human. Yeah. But one of the things that we dang him on to is that he's not a sociopath. Right. That he's not just a killer. Yeah. What do you have to say about

the Bryson stuff? Do you support music on the first tee at St. Andrews? I didn't see this. Well, I ended the call. You didn't all honestly, no, I don't support that. It's your boy though. But yeah, Randy was, I should ride for BD. Mentioned to people, Randy was a costed at the Atlanta airport.

Yeah, someone I was. Just not a costed, I I'm kidding friend of the show Said oh my god, I just we're walking down terminal E Oh my god, I just got to enlist in the podcast Randy your takes on Bryson. We're a fucking disgrace They're so terrible superintendents everywhere or pissed. Yeah, everyone's right. I had trouble I had trouble sleeping after some of those two weird hills a diode for big Randy. I think it's been a little bit Misconstrued. Super. We don't have a lot of chemicals to work with too. They could they could really make your life miserable It's true. I yeah, wait look we don't have to relitigate the whole thing

Can we just say part of the Rory thing? I just looked up since the start of 2017 He's got one win and two runner ups on tour. Weird way to do. Again, he's way too living under par though. What does he have worldwide? Well, but my point is against 95% of professional golfers, like that's great, man. Yeah, yeah.

Roy is also not a European tournament, but it's just a different discuss. Sem's a man's ex. All right, well speaking of shitty wedge players, let's go to the next voicemail here. What's up guys? This is Mark Cohn from DC. Been a huge fan of no-ling ups since day one. Appreciate the work you guys do. I just want to know when y'all are going to let Neil spread his wings a bit. Now that he's left the mothership, he's got more time to focus on his true craft, creating content. I think it's time to get him involved. Thanks, y'all. I mean, yeah, no disagreement on this side. Randall, we just got back from... Can we, can we unveil? If you want. Location for season three of Strap. Episode three,

season three, we got to figure that out. We got to... We want to have to dial in the... It's traps. It's... Each one's an app. I think it's episode. I think it's just strapped three. Yeah, you know, like Ghostbusters three. And then they're released in incriminate parts. Each episode is released. Yeah. Well, we just got back from Louisiana.

We were in the Bayou. Deep in the Bayou. Baton Rouge, New Orleans. People are gonna see that, you know that in the next couple weeks here. So yeah, Neil, Neil, Neil, we've had a lot of projects recently. I think the people are going to start seeing much more Neil, which I think is good for everybody. Good for everybody. All right, so yeah, we need to get Neil, you know, learn, learn more about golf. Neil also does live in New York. He's gonna try to spend about a week of every month

down in Jacksonville and whatnot, but... He's in the New York office. Yeah, so he's our correspondent up in New York. But yeah, there'll be plenty of Neil going forward. He's this is first month full-time. Hey guys, please be easy on him. That's right. All right, let's move on.

Good evening, Lads. This is Lawrence formerly from London. Now, residing in Chicago. Love the pod. Thanks. Bit off topic from this weekend's tournament, but I wondered what your take was on the European tour's social media approach. Probably saw the Tommy Fleetwood and the Hemrich Stenson stuff recently and just wanted to see what you think about that compared with how the USPGA tour handled their approach to social media. So that was it. Keep up the good work.

Thank you. Is this a plan? No, there's no plans. Well, there's one plan. But we'll be out ahead. We tweeted about this plan, but I don't know how much we've really discussed on the podcast. I think we can say it very quickly. They're running circles around the PGA tour when it comes to social media and content. So the subtle way they do it, the restraint they show is probably the most important part. Their golf fans. The content committee, that was amazing. And then releasing the bloopers to that was awesome.

They did that this past week. So yeah, running circles. We know this, but just kind of wanted to shout them out on the podcast as well. Bravo. Hey guys, this is Paul from Raleigh, North Carolina. And this is in response to that, Michael head, that said that said that whistling

what is whistling for? Big fan of college man knucklehead too. Knucklehead uh I really I love the personal shots I think. Yes. Uh all right we're gonna cut him off. I think yes All right, we're gonna cut him off he goes he goes on for quite some time. We're gonna cut him off there Yeah, love call was at the end of getting it. Yeah, yeah Yeah, I'd say call out other callers. I think that's gonna improve your chances of getting that show I think keeping it short that's gonna improve your chance to get in on show and

Yeah, the whistling thing I guess that that you know that goes going to improve your chance to get down to Joe. And yeah, the whistling thing, I guess, that goes to another. That'll stretch out to another way. But that was wonderful. All right, let's move on. Hey, Kielhaus. First time, long time, calling from South Orange. This is the Wifey Fade on the season long race for the full-length series. When I'm lonely and I'm sad at night, I usually like to think of

2016, we're open championship presented by her majesty to Queen, final round. The dual against the sun. I was wondering if you guys have any sort of round like that that you think of when you're sad and lonely need to pick me up. Cheers. Good question. Does he mean professional rounds or like our own personal rounds do we think? I think he means professional. Yeah, yeah.

I have a question. I don't. Well just because you pose that question. Sometimes when I can't fall asleep I will think back to a specific golf round and just start replaying the shots. I did it last night. And I feel like it's like counting sheep. Oh for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I love doing that. Professional rounds, I don't know. I don't mean to...

This isn't an all you for you, Reini. Don't get excited. But... Maybe it's just because I worked on this big project for the PJ Tour when I worked there, but Rikki's fun around at the players. Like I swear. I think about that one a lot. Fucking gross. It was awesome. It's like it's cool as a get. So if there is one I can't say that I ever am like God I'm really blue. Remember that time Ricky dominated the field of the players. Now I feel better. I don't think I'm really at that point but that's the first one that springs to mind. I feel just because it brought me so much personal joy, I think I can go through all of Mikkelsen's back nine

at the 2004 Masters Sunday. How do you fucking predictable? What, I mean, what happened after he won? For me? Yeah, I went, we were at a spring break in Hilton, I ran out the back door of the house and jumped in this lagoon, kinda. Were there alligators in the lagoon?

Well, I was like out there splashing around a little bit and the neighbor comes and he's like, I would get out of that lagoon if I were to get the naders in there. I was a little, I was in a bit of a malt to the hop frenzy. I don't know, I feel like I want to lean towards some masters highlight that I've seen on Golf Channel more than like an actual round. So I don't know. I've seen the Tiger wins so many

times and maybe I think back to 05 with the chip in and then the two bogies leading in coming in. I don't know. I don't know if the one that like in recent years that is like I feel like I was sweating at the end of it was the 2015 US Open at Chambers. Yeah. That's like I felt like I was on cocaine on that. Like that was that was as close as a Chambers' Day. That's like, I felt like I was on cocaine on that back then. Like, that was as close as I'll ever get to that. I don't, it was like blacked out, what happened with DJ and speed and all that. That's the one that sticks out to me the most

of the last five years maybe. I'll tell you the other one, I don't know why it comes to mind is the Cabrera and Adam Scott. Yeah, that was awesome. Playoff is reading. Yeah, yeah, that is cool. They like, both stuff did on 18. That, that was awesome. Playoff is reading. Yeah. Yeah. That was cool. They like post-stufted on 18. That was, that was a cool wrap.

TC, you got one. Yeah. Oh, it's, I would say non-02 BC open spike make a royal division. Would be. Can Duke 65? No, the nine. Interleviate at the O4. You have to have it. No, but like, yes, but I didn't see every shot because they didn't show. I would say the 97 Masters, I remember coming home from school, and Tiger shot 40 on the front nine, and he shot 30 on the back nine.

And I can probably tell you pretty much every shot that he hit on that back nine. Like that was, and it was a Thursday, but that was the day that he won that tournament Yeah, he that was that was it. That was the day. He ended Fautos career 40 30 It was awesome. That was it. All right. Let's wrap up a few more. Can I do one more quick shout out if you'll allow sure Non pro golf division the 2016 NCA men's match play final between Texas and Oregon and Eugene. When both hustlers, I was just totally out. Was that the, I was at the night. That was when the chef was on the roof.

Yeah. Yeah. When the chef was on the roof. That was, I was so invested in that, in those five matches for no real reason. Yeah. Bromney a lot of joy. All right, let's keep moving. Hey guys, what's going on?

This is Jeremy in Nashville. What would you rather hear less about the FedEx Cup standings in March or your buddies shot for shot recount of the 85 you shot the local media this weekend? All right, thanks. Gosh, that's a toss up. I kind of like hearing people's round by round sometimes. If it's a course, I know really well and can picture other shots. I kind of I kind of enjoy it. It's just a question. Yeah. And if you have any guys, as someone who shot 85 at their local media yesterday, I can I can run you guys through every shot if you want and where it really went wrong. Run us through that t-shirt on 9

I had to pee so bad have you ever had that where you had to pee so bad that like even you get to the top your back so You just black out. No, it was it was awful. It was last whole a day You wouldn't have to go through it. Well, it's just a couple things right I almost missed the ball straight up bit literally no one cares about the FedEx cup update I think we all know that at this point But if people saw a video of like I'm just going back in my head If people saw this video of DJ's T-Shot on 9 they would care yesterday Yeah, that would be the number one trending thing on Twitter. They'd want to hear they would want to hear the story

Yeah, for sure. It was horrifying The one thing about the FedEx cup is horrifying. The one thing about the FedExCup is we're talking with, talking with someone today who was playing Honda and you know they moved up the FedExCup and that's a first for players at a certain level using the FedExCup as an indicator of success is useful and saying like oh dude you moved up six spots this week you moved up four spots this week you moved up one spot this week. It's just a good indicator that like, okay, things are tangibly going in the right direction.

It's the metric that matters. Yeah. Then it matters and that's what you judge yourself by. But, you know, Ricky is in the green side bunker of needing to get up and down to likely force a playoff and now we're gonna go do a FedEx Cup update. Like that's a slap in the face. Yeah, that I don't write.

And they don't show like Porter's tweet this week. Like they don't show the current standing, like the much more relevant information. They don't show what the guy is in the tournament. Yeah, yeah. Like you don't show where, yeah, if you're in first place. Or hey, you know, if he makes par here, he stays T12, if he makes birdie, he goes to T7, if he makes boey, he goes to T19.

I think to your point, DJ, they should take a page from the English Premier League coverage. We're cool, show me the top 10 of the FedEx Cup, but it would also be interesting. Show me like 120 through 140. So I can start to get a sense of guys on that 125 bubble. Yeah. Like maybe on the back half of the year, you know like yeah now I was gonna say I don't think that starts to

Travel it's not hugely relevant But if you're gonna show me the top 10 this time here. Well, at least show me you know the the cutoff Where the relegation is you guys feel like this is like this year feels different now we're starting to give it a thick get into the thick of it. Yeah, guys are starting to grind for majors and and you got like you got some serious shit coming up. One thing I was doing a little bit of research for an upcoming podcast but one thing to note all of Tigers master's wins came when the players was in March. Oh, it's preparation. The plastic mask. He prepared for the players more than March. Oh. His preparation. The plastic match. He prepared for the players more than he would prepare

for a normal tour of it, not quite major, but after the players is done, he goes back and starts his preparation for the masters. So basically he played Bay Hill and then he played Matt and then he played players and then he shut it down for three weeks or so. Yeah, wouldn't touch it. Yeah. So just, just, just, oh, look or so. Yeah, it wouldn't touch a club. Yeah.

So just just don't look at that. Yeah, that's good. No, it's also he just hasn't won a major since 2000 days. So they move the players. But listen, he's coming in pots. Yeah, good conditions for tough. All right, let's keep moving. Hey, Dennis from Kansas City calling.

Is it too early to think of Lucas Glover for comeback player of the year? Like that. I don't think they do that award. They did away with that one right? Steve's trick or broke it by winning it twice in a row. Yeah, so the reason why we included this is we are gonna bring back the comeback player of the year and we're gonna award it at the end of the year So anyway people that can track it throughout the year send us your candidates for comeback a comeback player of the year, and we're gonna award it at the end of the year. So it's gonna have to be a player either, because it could be whatever. It's like if the Birdman comes back.

Exactly, yeah, yeah. So wait, how did non-Birdman division come back? How does Chief Stricker win exactly? Exactly, well that's what everybody's been asking for years. Yeah. You wanted no six and no seven, I think. I think they started doing it. I think they started doing it I think they started doing it. I'm doing it in the doctor I think they started doing it almost on like a like a

You know necessary basis where it was like we're not gonna give it out unless someone really deserves it Which is kind of a cool way to give it out maybe but as someone who has won a most improved award in your life Yeah, it's insulting. It is for sure. It's a punch in the face. You sucked in the first place. Correct. You can clever. I think you can you can attribute a lot of his early success this year to not being picked in the Fred X Cup draft. I think Haunt's all. He's got a little of that red ass. Exactly. Listen, I'll never forgive myself. Yeah. He is eligible. He subbed, however. That's true. There's a one ad drop coming after the master.

I think that's going to be Neil, because he's got a- Yo, if you're listening to this, which I know you don't listen to the pop, if you're listening to this, you really should pick up Lucas forever. Joey, Joey Garber and the boys. Yeah, they're just not getting it so hard. I hate myself for actually getting that right. Steve Stricker was the PJ Tour comeback player of the year, ENO6 and ENO7. I just, I legitimately wanna know,

like how do you, well he was really bad. Like before. But like who's voting on that? Like, was he just that bad? I think so. Yeah, I don't know. I think it was like he was so bad

and then he got himself back to relevancy. Yeah. And then from relevancy, he actually made himself good, made the president's cup team. It was that big of a leap. Yeah, I think so. He was split into leaps. The wilderness of a leap. Yeah, I think so. He was splitting the two leaps.

The wilderness. Yeah. I remember it. He had seven top tens and oh six on sponsor exemptions. And then his renewed form continued through 07. He won his fourth PGA Tour title at the Barclays and ending in 11 year victory drought. So, FedEx Cup, you know, it's a FedEx Cup playoffs.

It was one small step for Wisconsin, one giant leap for Steve's trickery. If that come back. Alright, let's keep moving. Hey guys, this is Dan from the Boston area. I just have to know, VB is just pulling our leg with this whole buck-lup thing, right? This club's not really ever going to exist, is it? Is it just like a long con? Okay.

Bye. A long con. Well, here, let's just play these back to back. Hey, guys. Zach Blair here. I wanted to give you guys an update on TBC. I heard there was a skeptical caller wondering about the project up in the Boston area.

And due to his concerns, we've decided to pull the plug. But in all seriousness, yeah, update on the project is still just kind of looking for that perfect place or that perfect partner to kind of get things rolling and just going to stay patient until we find the right person. Cheers, crack on. Are the investors? Possibly you. Yeah, this could be you well look

We're all getting together again at sweetens co for the ringer to here in a couple weeks I guess the update is there is no update, but the update is that we're you know, it's moving forward Onward we're on a Cincinnati. We're on a Cincinnati. Let's uh, let's wrap it up. I think this is the last call Hey guys, I'm gonna hold them down the couch up here in Goodwood and Canada. I got a question about the insufferable topic of the rules change. What was the problem that was being solved with all these rules changes? Aren't we all kind of playing our own, our own sort of faster version of rules anyways? Can I drop it where you lose it?

Our own sort of faster version of rules anyways kind of draw that way. Yeah, we did Pull this stuff like what was the point? Well, it was a problem. They're solving Okay Want to give a big shout to Arthur in good wood. That's I think he's the first repeat call our first regular. Yeah God, he was just even more despondent this week than last week, which we love. He kind of goes back to Tasmania when they got, you know,

when they got that Barmbubil told us to take an Irish shop. An Irish shop. If you hit it in the shit, I don't know, just drop it around the snakes in the Mirum grass. Arthur, your call is now go to a different voicemail box. It just goes straight to the top of the queue.

Arthur's got the VIP line. Correct. I couldn't sum it up better than he did. Honestly, that's so perfectly said. What are we doing? What's the point? It goes back to my, they're solving problems that are minor. And they're solving problems that don't really exist like looking for problems this all

Instead of focusing on the actual problems. Yeah, well that we talked about this a lot and I know this is a wildly unfair comparison to make but think of how much money they spent on the the rules Changes the research the presentations the videos the trips to go talk to. Do it like thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars, right? Like, why not just just go, I don't know, put that towards like T times for youth players or just something that's gonna get somebody on a golf course. You think of course, youth on course. Yeah. Five bucks, yeah. Five bucks around.

Yeah. So that's around and. But like what, I don't, like you know what what I was gonna play today, but just I didn't have that extra 20 seconds to drop It three times and then replace it ultimately when the ball moves closer to the hole like you're not a truck I legitimately like don't know what happens in a penalty area now. Yeah, I don't know what I'm supposed to be doing You know what? Ranny that's really cool that you called it a penalty area. Well, you never hit it in penalty areas That's true. God Strap his train. You know what? I want to make a PSA before we close this up

Randy area servicen. No Randy is putting his ass off. That's true. That's been very cool Here on that school you just his friend Hank Yeah, give him some some advice and said, hey, you know, figure out which thing which one of your hands is yippy neutralize that hand by turning the other direction. Randy's done that. He's made more plots inside of 12 to 15 feet than I've seen him make in the last probably 10 years in the last 10 weeks. I've told you guys, I think I've gone three rounds now

without missing a, you know, a comic-like part. Yeah, yeah. And it's like, oh my God, like it's fun to play golf. I didn't know this was possible. Like is this how it always is for you guys? It's cool to see you break out in the end. We'll see, it's almost, I almost feel bad talking about those because I don't want to jinx it.

But I think it was that $96 or three footer that you banged in the back of the cup. That's true. That's one of the one day. So, all right. Friend Hank gave you some food. Well, my friend Hank's been, you know, doing me solid on many fronts.

So, shout out to Hank. Cool. All right, we'll wrap it at that. Thanks for bringing it to you. Thanks for the voicemails. That has been a blast to go through. And I hope you guys are enjoying listening to them. So we got a ton more collars this week than me last week. So hopefully that keeps up.

More British people calling, please. You guys have been there. Oh, there's Canadians. Yeah. Yeah. Arthur, maybe call me like directly. Just give me some of your thoughts on the little world at large. Yeah.

Alright, cheers. the world at large. Alright, cheers. Be the right club today. That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Expect anything different? Better than most.