No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 201: Players Championship Wrap & Kiradech Aphibarnrat

Episode Date: March 18, 2019

Rory McIlroy had returned from the dead and won the 2019 Players Championship. As usual, we take some listener voicemail questions and discuss Rory breaking through, what we thought of the move to Mar...ch, Eddie... The post NLU Podcast, Episode 201: Players Championship Wrap & Kiradech Aphibarnrat appeared first on No Laying Up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah. That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No-Lang-Up Podcast Players Championship Wrap. At the end of this episode, we will have a interview with Kierdeck Opie-Bahnrat. I'll put in the description what minute that interview starts at if you want to skip over all of our bullshit.
Starting point is 00:00:44 But we're going to wrap up the Roy's win at the players championship. Somebody wrote in this week and said we always just assume that people know who's talking and we need to introduce ourselves on the podcast. So that's a fair take. This is very fair take. This is DJ Pioski, age 31 Neptune Beach, Florida. Hello, my name is Tron. And I will be reading the part of Big Randy today,
Starting point is 00:01:07 since this is all performance art anyways. I'm Sully, and we are... Well, let's roll right into it. We got a lot of good listener voicemails, and we're just going to roll right into those. All right, Lens, this is James and Sheld. I just wanted to call and check in on that guy the other week that was asking the Ferrari with dead. I guess I want that guy to come on with a tail between us
Starting point is 00:01:28 like and just apologize to everyone himself as family. Everyone is left out. All right, yes. Are we sure that wasn't Rory himself? Wonderful Charlotte accent. That was. I love that part of the country. That's great. Do we have a bridge straight into something? Yeah, I mean, let's just roll into the next voice, man. Don't you agree? Hey, guys, Jeff from Massachusetts called me in a few weeks ago saying Roy was dead. I was wrong.
Starting point is 00:01:56 He's very much alive. My apologies to Sully and the guy, the British guy, do weeks ago go who is pretty upset about my proclamation james mingling egg on my face why did he only apologize to you i think that i was the most adamant that he wasn't dead it takes a big man to apologize i think that's cool
Starting point is 00:02:16 for a little bit of a cause you call them dead yeah did reny calm dead now he said i went back and listen because people i think are very confusing that we had declared Rory dead Or maybe they everyone else is also we should say that we we don't condone you know anything any voice Mill's that appear on this podcast are not the property of no laying up. They're not we don't you know condone those Retweets do not equal indoors. It's not equal indoors. This isn't the sixth sense exactly with you know Emnight shaman around the 745 minute mark of the Mexico pod, uh, Randy did say, uh, this question was introduced by our friend, then Massachusetts. And Randy did say
Starting point is 00:02:53 if he doesn't win a major this year, he's dead. And now he has. Gosh, you're in quite a predicament, quite a pickle now. Yeah. Are you going to clear the fifth major? I was for sure not a major. Uh, good win. He can't help but feel. I did declare him the Mick Ricky last week, although Ricky has won a players as well. So I'm not, we're just going to take wait and see approach.
Starting point is 00:03:15 I think that's all we can do at this point. We're monitoring the situation. I don't know it. I don't know what this means. You're saying he's on his deathbed, but we're it's touching go. No, I don't know if he's on his deathbed, but it may or may not be terminal. We don't know. We have to run some more tests. We might be seeking a second opinion. You're a moron. Big and rich learner called the best win of his career. Any thoughts there? He doubled, too. That's stupid.
Starting point is 00:03:45 And he said, I know he's won four majors, but considering always come back from or something like that. Man, the hyperbole that's come out of the NBC Golf Channel last couple of weeks has been so- A lot of remarkable. Yeah, a lot of short-term memories. If you can't be hyperbolic though,
Starting point is 00:03:59 talking about golf. That's what we were hearing. You know, what's true? What fun is it? I feel like, yeah, well, he was standing on the 10th tee at Augusta in what, 2010, 2011, four shots up. Yeah. Completely imploded, Icarito himself, lit himself on fire,
Starting point is 00:04:12 and then he goes and wins the US Open by eight. Rich, basically, his point was, oh, God, all this baggage he's been carrying, and, you know, he's just all this baggage, all the, it felt like a lot of straw men, you know, you know, I've had a lot of haters coming at me. It's like, well, I mean, not really. Like you finished top five in four events,
Starting point is 00:04:29 or I think everyone knows you're playing really well. That was not a US open. I thought you were gonna, for sure, go with, listen Rich. Listen Rich. You're the great inner Rich. You know Rich. If you can ever find it, the interview with Jim Thorpe.
Starting point is 00:04:41 He's scrubbed it from the internet. And Rich learned, talking about the tax evasion is an all-time rich. Listen Rich. You know from the internet. And Rich learned, talking about the tax evasion is an all-timer. Listen Rich. You know Rich, I just, Rich, I made some mistakes. I disagree with what you just said though. I think I feel like people have been getting on him
Starting point is 00:04:52 for like top finish, like, present company included. Like trolls on Twitter? Yeah. It gives a shit. People on here have been like, can't close. No, I think we said it. Nobody said, no, didn't close and can't close. I think two weeks ago, we said how enthused we were with,
Starting point is 00:05:09 like I said personally, I'm Ricky's hitting wedge shots that we haven't seen him hit and, right, or sorry, Roy's hitting wedge shots, sorry. I'm frothing. I'm looking at Grandia, your boy. Ha, you know, feathery wedge shots, discontrol looks better, all of it, but going back to the congressional US Open,
Starting point is 00:05:28 that was not a US Open, it was the Quigalones National presented by the USGA. Okay, anyways, you can check the tape on some things we've said and it's, we've not declared them dead only. Well, don't do that, don't check the tape. Oh, look at us. No, let's just move on. No, I don't know. I mean, I think I would I would hazard a guess to say that we said something to the effect of
Starting point is 00:05:51 man, that was a little weird. You would picture him winning those events, but he just kind of didn't hit the shots when he normally hits the shots. However, he's still Rory and he's still, you know, he's still the world class player, not even a world class player, he's Rory. So, yeah, of course he can still do that, and he did it. But don't check the tapes, do not check the tapes. But don't check the tapes, I hope there are tapes. I've been adamant that he's playing the best golf
Starting point is 00:06:15 in the world, and I didn't expect him to win the players. Well, how cool for you then, this was a good thing. Yeah, I feel good, I feel validated, and I feel like that bluffing yourself. Yes, absolutely. Don't injure your shoulder. I absolutely will, so feel validated, and I feel like I'm fluffing yourself. Yes, absolutely. Don't injure your shoulder or feel yourself about that. I absolutely will.
Starting point is 00:06:29 And here he is. He's come out on the other side. I feel like it's just kind of people have, you know, I've said this last several weeks, like if you don't win, people automatically start asking questions in this like post-tiger world. He's been in the lab. I think he got crowned a little bit too. I'm going to say it.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Really? I think ROM crowned him. I don't know crowned a little bit too. I'm gonna say it. Really? I think ROM crowned him. I don't know about that. What was the best moment of today? Today was super fun. Runs easily, ROM, and yelling at his caddy. That was the best moment of the day. The shot on, the furic shot into 18,
Starting point is 00:06:58 and it wasn't the best one. Pepperls pod on 17. Vegas is pod. Vegas is pod to, yeah. Oh, I mean, yeah. We just had Eddie on the podcast We're all kind of you know, we're all jacked up and and rooting for him Can we we'll we'll talk a little bit about Eddie, but he he was even par after Thursday came over to the kill house did a podcast
Starting point is 00:07:15 It's great. It's gonna go up on Tuesday night of this week and then just played his ass off and almost won the golf tournament today That was sick very cool Randy how you feeling? I know you were you You were a little, I don't know if I really like watching golf, a little jabby. That had to be fun, no? Yeah, it was all right. I was hoping for somebody to just blow up down the stream. I mean, Ron was a little bit of a controlled burn, but after watching that tournament last year,
Starting point is 00:07:42 and then this iteration of it, it was night and day. I was, my eyes were bleeding last year. No offense to Webb, who had a good, and he had a good defense. I think he made a boring. He's 16 and played too well. I was hoping the conditions would buck their head a little bit. That's fair. On that note, why don't we, let's keep moving.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Before we do, guys, can we talk about something? Please. Sure. In lighten me. Oh, do you have something in your backpack? Okay. And it is phenomenal. I discover new pockets every day. I keep all my books in there and my laptop.
Starting point is 00:08:13 It's phenomenal. As a man of letters, it's a very important thing to have as a good bag. For sure. For sure. But I know I couldn't help but notice you used the golf bag. I do. Yeah, you guys use the Callaway specific golf bags.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Me, my associates, Tron and Neil, I have switched into the new line of OGO golf bags. I think I don't speak for myself. We were very nervous about switching away from the hyper light bags. You guys probably all saw in Toursauce and Scotland. We got a ton of comments about those. They said, hey, there's this new OGO line. Maybe take a look at these. I was like a hell
Starting point is 00:08:48 no. I'm sick into the hyperlites. And I saw the OGO ones. I was like, okay, these actually are pretty they're just the same thing with with more functionality. They have better straps than they than the hyperlites. They have more room than the hyperlites. They still feel nice and comfortable. You know, we all go out, we all walk at Jack's Beach and you can't do that without having some good straps on the golf bag. I've been really proud of us. We've really dedicated to walking.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Yeah, summer's coming, we are not gonna be walking. Wow, speak for yourself. We'll see. Yeah, I don't know, we'll see. OGO.com slash golf for more information on that. Now you can roll this question. Now let's keep moving. Okay, this is Taylor from Augusta.
Starting point is 00:09:26 I was just calling, watching the final round of the players and just thinking of your thoughts of moving it from May to March. It's a great thing to go back. Keep up the great content and thanks for listening. Bye. I think thank you for listening. Thank you for listening, yes. Yeah. Female collars are very much encouraged too.
Starting point is 00:09:49 For sure. Yeah, we're all very excited to hear. It's like ladies, now you go right to the front of the line, free drink, first time long time. Yeah, both for the show and just in life in general. This tournament belongs in March, period point blank. For sure. God, I thought that week was spectacular.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Just because I'm with you, I wish I'd gotten a little more biblical, a little windier. It sucks that even when it does get windy, it's not crazy firm. But a lot of players were kind of mixed on that. A lot of players are like, this golf course isn't meant to play firm. A lot of them were saying, if it's a true test,
Starting point is 00:10:20 it's got to be firm. I don't know. I don't know where you guys fall on that spectrum. I very much fall in kind of the big Randy Camp of like, this is entertainment. I, it's all theater. Like this whole is a island green. Like it's, it's kind of a joke. That's kind of where I'm at.
Starting point is 00:10:36 In that regard. So it's not like, is this like pure golf? Like no, but this is, this is wild. That was wild what we want. They should lean into the, yes, theatrics. Yeah. Without a doubt. And like, every it's no matter how big the lead is, even when Webb got to 17 last year, he was horribly boring, but we at least wanted to see
Starting point is 00:10:51 how he handled 17. Like nobody has its sign seal delivered till you're on that green. It belongs in May, it'll have been to it twice in May, it's been 95 degrees, hot and humid and miserable for fans and for everyone. I kind of was about there this week and like, why did it ever move? It's been 95 degrees hot and humid and miserable for fans and for everyone. I kind of was out there this week and like, why did it ever move? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:09 I know that whether it's more unpredictable in this time of year and there was some Monday finishes and whatnot, but Florida in March is infinitely better than Florida in May. And it's better for fans and I'm glad the weather cooperated this year and the takes didn't start popping up. I'm like, well, this would they get from moving it to March? Like even when it's rainy and windy like this, I think it's awesome. Yeah. This is the ultimate.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Yeah. You got the full mix, like the locket of DL3 winning that one year and kind of Craig Perks' year. It was like 50 degrees I think. So yeah, I think it belongs this month and it feels like a bigger deal in March too, which I'm totally fine with. Yeah, I wonder why that is.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I wonder if that's because we haven't had any majors yet. And without a doubt, people are a little starved for that. I would assume it definitely kind of dominated, I don't know if it dominated really, the headlines coming in, I think a lot of the headlines were kind of, is it a major or not, which is whatever we can get into that later.
Starting point is 00:11:59 But yeah, I don't know. I had nothing but awesome things to say about, about the move to March. I think we thought it was gonna be spectacular, it was as good or better than we thought it was going to be. March is who we thought. Yeah, I do think they need to grow the rough up a little bit more. I'm with you there. I'm with you. I don't know, you know, I don't want a Granemy Twitter to change their guns from Randy to me, but you know, so I don't really know how this works. But watching some
Starting point is 00:12:25 of the shots out there, and we walked around a fair bit this week, and we got to watch Brian Gay build an 18-hole round, which is one of the great treats of my golf watching life. Did you guys watch Brian Gay for 18-holes? Like 13 or 14-holes? Yeah, he was paired with friend of the podcast, Adam Long, so we got to watch that. And it was a little bit of a bummer to see. And you kind of saw it on 16 today when Rory hit his drive, where he hit his drive. Having played that course a lot of times, no, we do.
Starting point is 00:12:53 The hardest part about it is when you do miss those fairways, like I have just horrible memories of sitting in that four inch Bermuda rough where the ball just like gets spider webbed by this grainy ass rough and you're hacking out and whatever, this is the whole width and angles versus rough conversation. But when Rory bangs it down there and he's got a nine iron into the par five
Starting point is 00:13:17 from kind of a, you know, what looked like a pretty decent, almost pseudo kind of fluffy lie from this overwatered, overseated driving matte range, looking, uh, ragrass, it doesn't sit great. I was a little bit surprised with the way the greens looked,
Starting point is 00:13:31 especially earlier in the week. Yeah. They were kind of sketchy. I mean, the reports from a lot of players, like it might look okay on TV, but they're not great. Like, especially the collars on the front nine, like the fringe was just really, really,
Starting point is 00:13:43 I mean, it was dead looking, more out there. So, you know, I'm sure mean, it was dead looking all the way out there. So, you know, I'm sure there's some growing pains with shifting it back, but. A transition year, I think some of that stuff is kind of forgivable. Yeah, it's not like it got better throughout the week, too. Yeah, and like they now will have the course
Starting point is 00:13:55 ready to peak in March every year, and this was their tightest time frame, like the change over and whatnot. So I don't know enough about a ground made to, to a pine on that greatly, but I think that's kind of in year one. It definitely didn't affect anyone away in that. No, it was very green. You know, it looked, it did look pretty, it looked pretty, it looked pretty cool. I don't know if it's like a bit as people have said, we've had a bit
Starting point is 00:14:19 of Stockholm syndrome, we talked about the theme music, which we're going to get to, but I had a blast out there. I thought it was a wonderful tournament. The viewing angles are tremendous, and it does get forced down your throat. We were kind of bitter about the week before it even started, but going out there, I walked around all day Friday, Saturday, I had a blast. We go back to the tapes.
Starting point is 00:14:37 We've said this the last two years. I know. It's a great tournament to watch. It's an exceptional product. I think it's only downfall is really the fact that they can't just let it be the players. And you can tell with NBC, even every chance Trico got yesterday and today talking about the significance of the tournament. The feel, they just have this inferiority complex that's that supersedes everything else just let it be itself with that said
Starting point is 00:15:08 Let's go to the next voice mail should we? Hey guys bill from Minneapolis could this have gone any better for the all caps game over the PGA tour immense amount of height leading into this tournament the fifth major one might say you know What are your thoughts are we are we gonna add this to the rota? I mean, come on. It was exciting. So I kind of, Billy Horsel tweeted something about the zero in the week. Like the tour has never pushed this on the players to like promote it as a major, but walking, I don't know what, what gate you guys entered at, but if you walk in the Davis love VIP entrance or whatever it is, and VIP just means like, you just walk right in. It's for everybody for the record.
Starting point is 00:15:45 They play like sound bites from players and from broadcasts, like not even subliminally, like just like blasting it in your ear like, yeah, I mean, this is like a major, I prepare for it like a major. And like carefully curated clips that you hear on your way into the tournament of like, oh yeah, this is a really big deal. Straight propaganda.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Yeah, it's what it felt like a lot. I mean, this is kind of a pointed discussion on the Eddie podcasts that's coming this week, though, is I think kind of where the root of the identity crisis might be in that the players used to be a much bigger deal than a lot of PGA tour events, but like the floor on PGA tour events has risen so much. And like every event there's huge money. Yeah. Now it's like, well, what is the players then? It's bigger deal than those tournaments,
Starting point is 00:16:27 but it's not as big of a difference as it maybe used to be. So is it a major? I think, I think, is that fair to you? That's where the root is? Yeah, I think so. I think it's more ceiling than floor. I mean, the floor of the Valero text. I mean, the Sanderson farms and the players are still.
Starting point is 00:16:43 It's like a second tier event. But like regular. But even that stuff has been elevated to the point where it's like, no, it's part of the wraparound season. These are all PGA tour events. These are all important. And then it's almost like you're constantly trying to stay ahead, you know, keeping everybody happy
Starting point is 00:16:57 where it's everything's in the wraparound season. But now, memorial and Arnold Palmer, like, now, well, you guys are different. You're on another level. This is Mr. Palmer and Mr. Nicholas. And then, well, Tigers event, like, now, well, you guys are different. You're on another level. This is Mr. Palmer and Mr. Nicholas. And then, well, Tigers event, well, now, okay, well, now also you're on another level. But also the WGC is also you're on another level. And also, of course, the playoff events, of course, you're on another level.
Starting point is 00:17:17 But the players, I mean, that's entirely on another level. It's at late stage cap. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, you guys surprised that they haven't up the purse even more. I mean, it's pretty, it's pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty egregious. But what, not, but make it so outrageous that, that you're talking FedEx got money. Like, you get $5 million for winning just this one event, like, and basically, I know they have everybody in the field already, but just make it so outrageous that, you
Starting point is 00:17:42 know, you're kind of, it's like, it's of, it's like the new money major. It's the new money master's kind of thing. Well, you and I were talking about it a lot while we were just walking around. And I think that yeah, I'd be all in on just leaning into, it sounds like we're being pejorative or backhanded when you say lean into the absurdity of it. And I don't mean that in even like in a bad way.
Starting point is 00:18:06 I just mean, look at the fucking golf course. Like you said, like you have an island green. Like just lean into it is so different than anything else. Just lean into make it an absolute spectacle. And I think that everybody that goes to the tournament would love that. I think the, you know, the purists would hate it,
Starting point is 00:18:24 but I think they already clap back at almost everything that the tournament, would love that. I think the, you know, the purists would hate it, but I think they already clap back at almost everything that the tournament announces. Anyways, so it's like, I don't know, I think just absolutely make it its own thing. And I think that's our one beef is, you know, just stop trying to make it something else. We're walking around and you see the new, you know, the whole redesign driveway
Starting point is 00:18:43 and you can tell exactly which golf course in Augusta, Georgia, they got the idea to open up all of that and to change all that stuff. You're walking around in the chairman, the chairman sign, all the past chairman is called the honorable company of past chairman. I wonder where you got that idea. And the trophy changes and like, it's like, do you just stick with one thing and just keep making it its own thing. The old trophy was sick. The old trophy was sick.
Starting point is 00:19:08 You walk in the merch tent and there's 15 different logos. I'm like, dude, just keep it the same. Just, it takes a long time. You can't just keep throwing money and make it feel traditional. Like, it takes a long time for those things to set in. So just stop changing them.
Starting point is 00:19:23 The new, the new players music, I don't know if there's a voicemail on it. There is. Okay, so I'll leave that, but on the flip side, the new trophy, just seeing it in person, it's got off. But it kind of looked like Jim Furek was what I was kind of going for,
Starting point is 00:19:40 and I was like, oh my God, this might be, the answer might've been right there for us the whole time. How big is it? It's too big. The stand is like standing. It's like standing. It's like something, give me. I mean, it was on a stand.
Starting point is 00:19:50 I don't know if the stand is all part of it. I didn't watch the trophy presentation or anything, but it was like three feet tall. Like a two liter bottle of Coke or something? It's like a mini Stanley Cup. It looks like a mini Stanley Cup with what you saw on the top. With a two kid sports trophy.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Yeah, like if you took, if one of those trophies from, you know, I remember like, Hirschbine trophies in Sikimore, Illinois, where everybody gets like the little league trophies. Shout out to those guys. Shout out. If one of those trophies got gigantic, like that's what it looks like. And then are they gonna like the plastic where you have like the seam, the seam up the side,
Starting point is 00:20:26 you know, and it's like a molded plastic trophy. That's, I don't know. Are they gonna keep? The crystal one I thought was awesome. Are they gonna keep morphing it every year? That's what I have to incorporate. That's what I have to incorporate new faces. That would be sick.
Starting point is 00:20:37 That's probably the best thing they could do. Which otherwise, yeah, then it's like, okay, well, why'd you pick this arbitrary point where it's like the first, what is it, what's it been like, 37? 38? Yeah. It was Neil's football number. Oh, maybe, well why'd you pick this arbitrary point where it's like the first, what is it? What's it been like 37 or 38? Yeah, it was Neil's football number. Maybe that's why they did it. In 20 years from now, it's like, yeah, this is based on the first 38 and only 38 champions, Rory McElroy.
Starting point is 00:20:56 You won't notice his face in here at all. That might be the burning question coming out of this week. Or on the first 38, if guys won the tournament more than once, do they get double ice as much influence? Shout out to Steve Alkington. It's like dominant jeans. Yeah. Listen, all these are great fantastic questions. I mean, I think after, I mean, we knew this going into it,
Starting point is 00:21:17 but like definitively, this is not a major. Like, no, guys, but we recorded more podcasts this week with players than we have in any week ever Which would never happen in a major like there's photo shoots going on with sponsors and stuff like the players are attending and Monday Tuesday like this is not it's just not like it's fine guys got MDF Yeah, it's not a major like it's fine. Let's let's we can move on I think the only thing that would make like People asking this question is the only reason that this keeps coming up.
Starting point is 00:21:45 That's why I didn't even want to address it. Like, is this a major? Like, no. There's four majors. There's four majors. Am I being crazy? No, there's four majors. If things started over right now,
Starting point is 00:21:54 and everything said, okay, we want to make, we have this tournament, you know, this whole entire schedule, we want to pick four tournaments to be our majors. I'd be like, yeah, you should pick the players. It's really good. But that's not how it works. I think majors like time is just a social construct. Exactly. So you can choose to anything
Starting point is 00:22:12 can be a major in your heart. Like who cares? As it stands now, like three of the four majors are already in the US. If we add another one, would it be in the US? Like does that make the most sense? Like, you're riding for the CJ Cup? Yeah, absolutely. Like one in Asia or Australia would make more sense than adding another one in the US. I just don't, it's such an answer to a question that nobody's asking, right? And then, and then, and then,
Starting point is 00:22:35 why would everybody, and other major, where everybody always asks about like, why, who is talking about this, why is this a thing? And needless to say, everybody's talking about it. Yeah, just stop, it's not a thing. I needless to say, everybody's talking about it. Yeah, just stop. It's not a thing. I think it's almost derivative. I think everybody's talking about everybody's talking about it.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Yeah. But I don't think anybody's actually talking about it anymore. The commentary, the comment time. Yeah. Well, what was the comment that we had heard that come out of Ponte Vigia, which was, the fifth major is still being played in May? Is how brutal.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Yeah. Oh, cool, cool dig,, but I mean, the PJ does stink, but that's another issue. That's a different take. You want to roll into the next caller? Next caller. Gentlemen, Steven Schuster's second calling from the C-suite. Just wondering, he was talking about getting some more partnerships in the works.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Just wondering where we're at on that. Want to see you guys better wet in your beaks a little bit more, generate a little bit more cash flow, your organization. So, give me an update. Thanks. Very cool to have someone from the C-suite calling in like that. The call is coming from inside the house. Well, speaking of majors, I think we can shed some light on Steven's question and potential
Starting point is 00:23:48 new partners. We're going to be doing some stuff with Pinehurst Resort this year. So, Ollie, you want to talk about that a little bit? Sure. I think I've been on the record saying that Pinehurst II is my favorite golf course that I've played in the United States. They've had majors there. They have had majors there.
Starting point is 00:24:03 And they have made a lot of changes. They've kind of, I think a lot of people get drawn to the very new places and they're exciting and they're fun to play and kind of contend to forget about some of the classic places. And Pyners has done so much over the last decade, even, you know, with the renovation of number two. And now adding number four and adding the Thistle Dew Pudding Course and adding the Cradle, the Part Three Course, that I think there's a lot of fun things we can do there.
Starting point is 00:24:27 We are going to do there with them. So we're bringing Pioneer's own boards and official partners. Yeah, we are very excited. We're going to be doing an event there later this year, much more to come on that. But I think in where we're kind of starting now is like we get questions all the time from people about where they should plan their golf trip for this year. You know, it's kind of, I've got X amount of dollars to go do one big trip. Where should I go?
Starting point is 00:24:50 It's early in the year that, you know, possibilities are endless. And Pinehurst is one that we talk about anyways. So I think that's one that we wanted to, it's very easy to bring on as a partner. So Pinehurst.com, they have all kinds of offers, packages, check it out. So I mentioned a million different things that they've already done, but yeah, the number four course just was redone by Gill Hans. The number two course basically kind of shifted
Starting point is 00:25:11 how golf course architecture works in the United States over the last, you know, 10 years, 15 years. And yeah, I'm excited to get back. The brewery, we need to mix the brewery. There's a bunch of shit. Really cool to see you guys working with them. I'll report back to Stephen Yeah, you know that guy just sounded like a bright guy. Yeah, we got a lot of good ideas there
Starting point is 00:25:30 So we'll consider our beaks wet and let's get to the next caller. Hey, this is Sean from Nebraska self-loading Sean is this Jim fear cool is this Jim Fiery cool. I also think Jim Fiery is cool. I think Jim Lee thinks so. I mean, we see him at Sundelley all the time. Yeah, which makes him cool.
Starting point is 00:25:53 He's inherently cool. He's dining at Sundelley. I think he gets the Babs special. I talked to him about it one time. I know we got a lot of new listeners since this went up and it's not on our iTunes feed and he works. Our host sucks more on that to come. But go listen to our podcast episode with him from November of 2017.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Like, I honestly... It's on the website, right? Yeah, it's on the website. Nobangup.com, the podcast tab, go on there. Go listen to that. Like, as an awesome interview, he had told funny stories. He was like a great hang. He had no idea who we were and just kind of sat down and told stories for an hour.
Starting point is 00:26:20 And if you didn't see that small moment coming up the 18th today, then yeah, I can say definitively. It was... I was disappointed with the fact that Saturday he didn't like he should have gone for that shot if he falls in the water he falls in the water he dies he dies but if he pulls off the shot like hey he saved himself a stroke which turned out to be very very you know valuable and B he's what 10 minutes from a shower? I love Jim Furik. It's taken me, I think it's taken me,
Starting point is 00:26:48 maybe this is what the caller is alluding to. It's taken me a long time to admit that. He's very much a dad. He's a golf dad. But he hits big shots in big moments. We kinda, I think we all got a bad taste left in our mouth by whatever it was four, five years ago when he was kinda in some big moments and tended to get a little yippy down the stretch. 2012 fighter cup really hurt us too.
Starting point is 00:27:11 But his 58 was these Chaff 58 and 59, that's very cool. That 59 was insane. That's quite a club. Yeah, I happen to be there on that day at Conway Farms when he shot. And just watched like pretty much every shot on the back nine and dude, he's just, he's like a, he's just a bulldog, I don't know. And you sit in the press room and I know this sounds cliche too, but all these guys give such boring answers
Starting point is 00:27:37 and everybody complains about this all the time. And Fierrick never, ever, ever does that. Every time, whatever the question is, he legitimately to the point where he'll stop and like, and he did this to me when I first was out there, he would like look at my credential, ask who you are, like what are you reporting this for? Because he's like, okay, I know that I'm going to say some stuff,
Starting point is 00:27:57 I'm not gonna, you know, be cagey and I'm not gonna try to hold stuff back. So like I, hopefully this is a person that is trustworthy that's not gonna make me look like an ass. And he just, yeah, he says what's on his mind. And it's awesome to see. Awesome to see him up there. It was cool. Like much like the VJ thing a couple weeks ago at the Honda would have been would have been cool to see both of them get it done. But say Lavi. He's a pro pro. He's the ultimate pro pro comfortable in his own skin.
Starting point is 00:28:21 And like nobody grows up like wanting to be like Jim Fiery like Billy Joel. Yeah, he's like Philip Rivers. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Can you be cool though? If nobody grows up wanting to be well, that's the Billy Joel conundrum. It's like nobody you know he's like by all intents and purposes of rock star but like nobody nobody thinks he's yeah, nobody thinks he's cool or like grew up you know idolizing him. Do you remember the shirts from a few years back, the button that I called with the ex-alarm on the front? He did say that on the podcast, the shirts he regretted the most were the button up, short sleeve shirts he used to wear.
Starting point is 00:28:56 But like talking about some way that just owns or swing. Yeah, I mean, the shot he hit on 17, I know he didn't make the putt on 17, like that was extra ballsy as well. Fluff had a, first of all, the bracket's like a big moment here for Fluff, as he was getting the yardage and the wind right, I'm like, okay, it's also pretty big for the guy that's got to hit the shot.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Fluff's got a five year play ahead. I just want to say, it was, not only was that a risky shot, it inspired me to make a very risky Google search as I went for an old ball's, Jeff of some kind. That's what it is. Big daddy.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Yeah, Sid's got a five-year plan. What is it? So I went for that and only saw a few things that I was not supposed to see. So how about Fluff being born in 1948? It's incredible. Probably the only caddy out there that was born in the 40s.
Starting point is 00:29:39 I would generally don't know how he does what he does, not only for an entire week, but for an entire season especially in the summer heat that's amazing that's amazing six figure check probably close to that for him as furek made over a million dollars for finishing got made a million dollars pretty nuts all right next question what's up fellas this is Nate up in Michigan Nate the great season spring but I want to to call Randy and I demand a public apology for the Mick Ricky comparison that he made the other day. Absolute garbage. And yeah, we need to hear an apology from you on the pod. Thanks Nate.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Thank you. You're doing what you're doing. Really appreciate you looking out for the democracy in the world, Nate. Thanks for calling in, Nate. Randy, got anything to say? Well, I think we kind of touched on it in the democracy in the world and eight. Thanks for calling in, Nate. Randy, got anything to say? Well, I think we kind of touched on it in the beginning of the pod. I don't think we kind of want to touch on it. We want to touch on it. It's a public apology that he's demanded.
Starting point is 00:30:33 You can refute that if you like, but you'd be a scumbag. Is Rory not definitively not like Ricky? Is that what I'm being asked to refute? Well, I don't think you're being a little coy that, you know, do they have some similarities? Certainly. Yes. Are they the same player? Absolutely not. Does Roy have four majors? Yes. For sure. Another different era. You guys bastardize everything. Different era. That was the tweet. We have moved on from the McRib era. I would now earn the McRib era. It was the goat era and then the McRib era
Starting point is 00:31:06 and then now we're in the McRicky era. Well, so did a new era start today. Potentially, that's what we're monitoring. We have to monitor a situation. I mean, Ricky is one of players, so. So you could make an argument that the McRicky era is like this proved even more that we're in the McRicky era.
Starting point is 00:31:22 It might be all in on the McRicky era. Next topic. I'm so stupid. Andrew and Philly, I was really in the mood to agree with anti-wistling guy all week. Wanted to hate the player seeing music as it was just absolutely forced on us. But God damn it if I wasn't whistling the damn theme music on Saturday afternoon just couldn't help myself All right, don't leave you guys with that crack on there were I'm just gonna keep roll right into the next one because there were a lot of people that actually called it about the music He went on like that for some time It's fire it's heat. It's for it. It's yeah did it, it went! He went on like that for some time.
Starting point is 00:32:05 It's fire. It's heat. It's good. It's a banger. I agree. We made fun of it. Now I look back. It was a brilliant rollout.
Starting point is 00:32:13 It made us recognize the theme song. And every time it came on, I just started dancing. It was good. It was good. I'm leaning into the self-seriousness a little bit. They did, which, well, so the only issue with it in the full version that you saw in the video that it tweeted out was then after this part that everybody loves, then they go into this
Starting point is 00:32:30 like weird trap beat, which was never on the telecast, and that part, it was like, ah, would they get like a focus group to design the music, but that's the live under par remix. But that never showed up on the telecast, but that never showed up on the telecast. And what was on the telecast was fantastic. I like it.
Starting point is 00:32:49 I hate to say it's going to be a classic. I think people are going to recognize it. It might be my ringtone. I'm serious. I just started shimmying my shoulders every time I heard it. And on the top of that, the graphics package is fire. It's really good. It's really good.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Whatever their blue color that they use, and I know we make fun of graphics all the time like that's how you do it like that is i'm i'm retired i'm retired from broadcast takes of course but i'm posed a question to the group do you guys like more commercials or less commercials it depends on the situation i'm gonna get back to you on that one don't you get tired of the same commercials though well that's a good question would you rather have less commercials but the same commercials? Which is I'm kind of used to that because I watch it a lot of it on Apple TV and it's They go to their own their own set of commercials and there's only three of them every week anyways But I'd rather I like you just I mean this is like the secret of TV isn't like you just tune out of the commercials anyways So it was interesting even on the like I was listening on the radio a lot this you know early this afternoon and then late yesterday afternoon
Starting point is 00:33:46 It's obvious that that that Randy hates books Because you know Justin Rose is partnered with oh with Morgan Stanley. Yeah, you go up Randy Yeah, the book trust. I mean it was noticeable right and especially like imagine if it wasn't limited commercial Interruption this today with the amount of action they got. It would have been impossible. Like they were doing all they could to press the buttons to get to their action. They had to show a lot of shots on tape delay.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Obviously there was just so much going on. Again, there's no issue with showing shots on tape delay. If it means that you're gonna show the shot and you're not and you're gonna let it, like the Sergio thing yesterday. Was it Sergio yesterday? No, Polter yesterday. Oh, on four.
Starting point is 00:34:24 When he hit it in the water and then they showed the whole thing play out. That was cool to watch. You know, and I feel like they in the past or other networks would have cut away from that. And then from there, you know, they would have lost the flow. And then if you have to show something tape-related to get back on rhythm, you do that. And they crushed the wrong thing. I know we kind of touched on at the top, but they're having a conversation in the bunker left of 11.
Starting point is 00:34:50 And the wind, he's got a hooket around a tree from the left bunker, and the wind is blowing hard left to right. And Adam Hayes is caddy steps in, and I don't like this at all. If we lay this up to right here, you have a flat lie, and Ram says, I'd be uncomfortable with that or something,
Starting point is 00:35:06 it's like a bad angle. It's like, dude, you're trying to hook it out of the bunker around a tree over water with left to right wind and as soon as he hits the ball, he just f-bombs and was like, oh, fucking perfect before he said that or something like that. It was perfect. He comes as a su-sue.
Starting point is 00:35:21 I do wanna hear the full Ram break down at that moment if he's asked about it afterwards because this goes back to the TV people being, the keepers of the take. And as far as what we saw on TV, that's how it played out. So I wonder if there was more conversation before that or more, something else going on. But as we saw it, that was sick.
Starting point is 00:35:38 That was brilliant. Listen to them on the radio, there was a lot of ROM chatter picked up by their mics. Do, and the radio's always better for that. A lot of, a lot of, oh picked up by their mics, dude. And the radio's always better for that. A lot of, a lot of, oh my gosh, I'm sorry for the language you may have heard. Well, that's really nice. The mic's are very hot.
Starting point is 00:35:54 They never apologize. I'm going to be writing an FCC complaint. That's a good call. Yeah, there's no apology. They stand by it. How many times is this, like the Sunday column Sunday column gonna emerge with ramen contention of like, yup, here he goes, he's really mature, he's had temper issues in the past, but he's over them.
Starting point is 00:36:10 And he's gonna continue to do this like this part of who he is. Well, I'm not just saying this because they're both Spanish, but this is kind of been the Sergio Playbook for 20 years, so. Who's he working with? Sergio's way different now.
Starting point is 00:36:22 He's way, he's calmed way down, he's a family man. Well, I know he destroyed five greens, but now he's a class act. He's with the troops. Here he is with doing some fan proposal thing. Who is Ron working with? I don't know. Like to get better? Yeah, on his mental game.
Starting point is 00:36:40 That's a great question. They filled tolls. Is that real? Yeah. You can look him up. You can look him up. You can look him up. Oh great question. They filled tolls. Is that real? Yeah. You can look him up. You can look him up. Metallica talking about.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Oh, I was like, oh god. We got to announce. We'll have posted this on Twitter, but quick shout out to the trap draw. If you haven't watched the Metallica, some kind of monster documentary, I know this is a very, very unique segue, but we did a whole trap draw episode about that. So if you want to watch that and then listen to the podcast you're welcome to if you don't want to do that you're welcome to do that as well so shout out to Phil Tolls. Let's go to the next question.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Hi this is Ben from Boise. I'm in a debate with my buddies that I need to appeal here to the Supreme Court of Toursoft. Kevin nods walk in putt on 17 yesterday. Was that a confident move of softiness or a nervy reflex to a touchy downhill putt? Thanks. I'm a hang up and listen. What do you think? I'm abstaining from any Kevin nod. From giving Kevin nodt any more attention than he's crying out for. It's very big of you. Ready? I think it was cool.
Starting point is 00:37:52 I know, well, that's not the question. Well, I don't think it was a nervy reaction because you wouldn't, if you thought you missed it, you wouldn't bend down to pick it up. Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at. I thought it was nervy at first, just the way he reacted, but then I was like, well, yeah, even if he missed it,
Starting point is 00:38:04 yeah, he wasn't gonna scoop it, which would have been sick. If he did scoop it, it would have been de-cute. First, for sure. I love the idea here of bringing into question walking inputs because a lot of pros will play it off, like they mean to walk it in and they definitely didn't, but they will just act it, play it off. This is not one of them.
Starting point is 00:38:22 The casual walk after you think you miss it is like you come up out of your stance, you don't bend towards the hole to pick it off. This is not one of them. Like the casual walk after you think and you miss it is like you come up out of your stance. You don't like bend towards the hole to pick it up. This is this one's is case shut. He was definitely that was a saucy move. I mean how about the cat yucking it up with his boy Kevin Naw. I bet he'd been trying to I've been premeditating that the entire entire week. Kevin Naw. I get what we saw him, we watched the, as you guys know me in Toronto, huge process guys. So what a thrill it was Saturday morning to be able to go out to the course and watch guys just watch their entire warm up process. So we watched the cat, watched him hit balls, watched
Starting point is 00:38:59 him chip, watched him putt, and he's y'all getting it up there with Kevin Nal. The whole thing started very early. There was a very comfy pairing. Well, I was really impressed with Eddie Pepperel's putting her team. Yeah. You mean like Tee. You talked about Eddie Pepperel, did we? Well, back to the Tiger moment.
Starting point is 00:39:13 More Kevin, the not-tiger moment. The seeing that kind of go into this viral world of Twitter was hilarious. We got a lot of absolutely hilarious replies. My favorite being, uh, because it, the, the, Paul Azinger jumped in and said something not intelligent about like, oh, they even have the same teeth as they were laughing. And somebody said, I missed that. Let's not violate Azinger's honeymoon period. Dude said, dude said they got the same teeth exclamation
Starting point is 00:39:39 point. I'm dead ass fam. Hashtag free Bobby Smurda. That was my favorite tweet that- Yeah. Listen, the golf schoolable game. I mean, anytime Kat does anything even remotely human, he gets- I know, that's- Lauded for it. It was a little crowned a little bit. I mean, it was funny.
Starting point is 00:39:58 I like- Yeah, it was fine. Every time I watch it, like, I laugh and smile, I'm like, this is big. It went into this whole like, this is what golf needs. Like, no, dude, it was like a funny moment between two people. It wasn't that funny tiger Clearly thought it was way funnier than it was Which helped kind of play into it was live under par personified it was it definitely it's gonna be in commercials
Starting point is 00:40:16 Yeah, exactly. Hey, this is Matt calling from who gives a shit where I live USA Who gives a shit where I live at USA? I'm necessary. We need more villains and golf besides Patrick Reed I find myself not really rooting against anybody if you guys could pick one person to turn heel and go bad So that we could root against them who would it be? There's a lot of love of content Adios Randy you got it. This is your block. You got to take this one first. Yeah, I think Matt, here's my advice. I just pick any pick who you want.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Don't, you know, it doesn't matter. Don't want the facts in the way. They don't actually have to do anything. Just create a reason in your own mind and then start writing for it. I think that's, I think that's smart. Kind of like Randy's not one Ricky. Exactly. Well, no, Ricky is a disgrace, but besides that.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Well, I feel like the easy answers are like Bubba and Polter, like the fans that the people that you know, fans have already taken upon them to root again. Who actually doesn't like Polter? Anymore though. But like the casual American fan does not like Polter at all. Like without a doubt. Like he got to he gets harassed everywhere he goes in the state, he posted an Instagram today about getting blown up out on the course and how his kids had to listen to him and get screamed out all day, which is, hate to see you. Which is tough.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Yeah, it's not. We don't want to encourage that kind of thing. No, I mean, I, you know, I'm gonna throw, you know, throw Jason Day out there as a candidate. There's plenty of you guys not to like. Yeah, I, I, I wanna hear you guys name your name. Number one heal. Yeah, each of you. Well, I wanna hear you guys name your name. Number one heal. Yeah, each of you.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Well, I think Ram is quickly, he's almost like the, I mean, you guys don't like Star Wars, but he's almost the, he's like Anakin Skywalker predisposed to be bad. I think he's the one you're talking about. That's why I preface it with that. He's got all the pieces in place. Everyone, I think loved him, comes out,
Starting point is 00:42:03 he wins a Tory Pines, makes that big, he looks like he could save the galaxy almost. And then now you start to see things like today where he's blown up his caddy. That's all it takes is like, we saw it with, we saw it really with Bubba. Like, one hole, the mics pick up the wrong thing. They pick up, you know, you blowing up your caddy, what who knows if he was even blowing them up or if that's just how they talk or whatever. And it just becomes legend and lore and they're got Bubba such an asshole man. I heard him that one time on that one hole that travelers,
Starting point is 00:42:37 that guy's an asshole and it just becomes so black and white, good versus evil. Rom is the prime candidate to slip up and do something that's like unforgivable, I think, and people are gonna start riding against him. Hold on, Mr. Politician, I need you to answer the question. Is it John Rom for you? It's John Rom, yeah, yeah, for sure. Like I thought, you guys are not innocent here either. Everybody's riding for Rom to hit it in the water
Starting point is 00:43:01 on 17 just to see what he's gonna do because it's fun to watch. It's fun to do bad shit, you know?'s fun to watch it's fun to do bad shit You know, well no, it's fun to do hood rat thing and my whole point is it's entertaining for sure Volatile people is great. I'm gonna make my feet to the fire there. I'm gonna I'm gonna offer up another few guys here Kegan that's yeah, be fun. That'd be fun. That's gonna be mine Justin Rose even though he's like the Maybe too much of a club's act. That's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Are you against the Eagle Up initiative? Putting books in the hands of young children? I would say JJ Henry. Well, I want to separate this out because like we, this is like, this is again, is coming from a place of like, not, we hear some things about guys. We know some of these guys and we just kind of get the wrong. This is like completely different from that.
Starting point is 00:43:46 This is kind of like, I don't really have a great reason to, but I just don't really like you. Exactly. And Keegan was the first name that came to mind for me, I think. But yeah, I mean, we've definitely heard some things about players that I could name that are stories that you don't want to put on the record of like, yeah, that's why I absolutely despise that guy.
Starting point is 00:44:03 But separating that out is kind of like, you know what, I just don't root for that guy. Like I find myself, like, for, for, when I was, before we started doing this, when I was just a golf fan, like, I just didn't want to root for Web Simpson. Couldn't be a nicer guy. No real reason to like him. Yeah, is that changed? But just his swing is really up.
Starting point is 00:44:17 I mean, I've heard some actually like really good stories about Web that actually make me root for him, but I don't like root, root hard for him, you know what I mean? I don't know. It's a weird Walker Texas backstop. Can you root for a guy and also want them to play bad golf? It's kind of a philosophical question. Hmm. No, I don't think so. No, that's how that works. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Well, I think Webb would be like that that category where it's like, I just I don't like seeing you play well, but I know you're like a great guy. I don't know. I don't like seeing you play well, but I know you're like a great guy. I don't know, I don't know, we'll think about it. Well, on that same topic, I would like, I like seeing Mikkelsen do well, but I also like seeing when Mikkelsen's in the hunt, I'd also like seeing him absolutely light himself on fire. You also like seeing him do bad stuff.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Yeah. But why is this golf fans seem to do this with like, it seemed to really care if somebody's a good guy. Like do we do this in other sports? Like, yeah, for sure. Like, you either hear a story about a guy. Oh, I heard that guy, he was a dick. My cousin's, you know, was six years old and she asked him for a ball and he didn't give it to her.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Like, that guy's a dick. Yeah. I mean, Randy's a big Antonio Brown guy. Is that right? Love's Antonio Brown, Tariq Hill. Tariq Hill. The thing is, putting everything on me, you're abusing the concept, Tron.
Starting point is 00:45:25 You need to dial it back a little bit. I think the floor for guys is way higher in golf because you just never see like a truly, truly bad person. You're never going to, for the most part, hopefully. You're never gonna see in golf like the shit you see in the NFL with, oh, this guy's out for, he just beat up his girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:45:45 So he's, yeah, I guess he's got a Miss 4 game. Allegedly. Allegedly. Well, some of them have been confirmed. You know what I mean? The golf stuff is just, I think when you do get the, like, oh yeah, he didn't sign an autograph, it's just so much easier to be a dick in golf
Starting point is 00:46:00 because it's the scales slid so much. Well, and you're so much closer to the actions. And, sure, like the players walk between a bunch of players because the scales slid so much. Well, and you're so much closer to the actions. And it's true. Like the players walk between a bunch of players or fans, and you could reach out and touch them. And like, there is, the interaction is very personal. When Tom Brady runs into the tunnel and you yell things out of me, he doesn't acknowledge you,
Starting point is 00:46:17 like nobody thinks anything of it. But like in golf, the players are expected to acknowledge all the fans. And bad things happen in the NBA when players. Yes. It's true. Shout in the NBA when players. Yes. Yes. That's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Yeah. So yeah, I don't know. It's kind of a weird, weird, but I feel like people will just take the small sals in 2011 blah, blah, blah, blah, and I hate this guy because it was like, all right. Well, that's what that's what Randy does. But yeah, but even some of that stuff's made up. Right. I mean, who in the like it doesn't matter. Nothing. Nothing matters. Like who okay here's all right one more question
Starting point is 00:46:49 what's up fellas it's joe from augt and you talk um just a quick question really is Jordan speth a forgotten man uff well big easy boys Well, take it easy, boys. Tron? I'm going to say vehemently no. I think he's in the lab. I think he's, you know, kind of re-entering the world of golf after his honeymoon marriage phase here. And I think, you know, is he dealing with some shit?
Starting point is 00:47:20 Yeah, absolutely. But I have full confidence in Jordan to emerge on the other side of this. Well, I think it would be, it kind of depends on your definition of the forgotten man. Like, is he the forgotten man for sure? I think so. I remember losing your mind earlier because looking up his world ranking.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Yeah, he dropped to number 30 in the world. He is the forgotten man, but he's not the forgotten man, like, you know, in the way that, in the way that we've seen people become the forgotten man, but he's not the forgotten man. Like, you know, in the way that, in the way that we've seen people become the forgotten man in the past, I still think he's, he's at the top of my list for Augusta, he's still, you know what I mean, but I was gonna be my question, solid, but he is the forgotten man.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Do you still feel comfortable with no, but I'm locked into the pick. So yeah, like I'm not changing, as soon as I change the pick, he'll wouldn't fucking master. We know that's gonna happen, but. DJ to your point, it's kinda like the different stages of grieving. For sure.
Starting point is 00:48:08 Where I think, we're still a little upset, we're concerned about Jordan, but we haven't accepted that he has forgotten me. Like when Apathy sets in, that's when he's truly the forgotten man. That's what I'll say. I think to be the forgotten man, we have to stop noticing when you play poorly, and people are still seeing the scores, and seeing the struggles. And he's not forgotten. When Adam Scott,
Starting point is 00:48:29 he's gone, but not forgotten. Correct. When Adam Scott dropped out of the top 50, I think nobody really, really noticed it on a day-to-day basis. But maybe it's just the US market paying more attention to speed and whatnot. Well, Jim Fierrick might have become the forgotten man
Starting point is 00:48:43 then before today. Yeah, he was fair. He was number what? Like 200 in the world? He was like 167 now, he's 57. So big jump. It's not over. It's definitely not over for speed.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Like I think he had a much better round too. He just dug himself a hole in round one. I mean, he made seven birdies in the second round. Yeah, he said he clicked. He said he's back. Which a lot of that is just like convincing yourself, which is sweet. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:07 We're gonna see him again where Matchplay, we're gonna see him in Val Sparras, he's skipping. He's not playing Val Sparr, I don't think. God, Val Sparr, my beat, the first chance. The last chance, Val Sparras might be the next week. That's a good call. Tough draw for them. We haven't talked about Fleetwood.
Starting point is 00:49:22 We talked about Fleetwood. Go ahead. I just, I feel like he, I really, you know, A, A, I'm a Fleetwood homer, but he didn't, he didn't have his A game, he didn't have his B game this weekend. He, you know, all those left misses that he kept hitting with his irons, you know, he had a C minus game and he still, he gutted out a 270 yesterday and stayed in it for most of the day today too. I think those are the rounds that you really figure out how to build on. Of course, when everything is going swimmingly, you're going to take that forward. But I think it's those days where you
Starting point is 00:49:58 don't have your game that you're really making the difference for a master's or a US open or a commercial. Chad Feltz had a great tweet, did Fleetwood sacrifice his life so Rory could live. We're going to have to look into that and give back to you. Fleetwood is, I mean, obviously he's playing some tremendous golf, but it's kind of a, if he's at Back to Back, poor weekends, being at the top of the contention,
Starting point is 00:50:24 like if this would happen back toto-back again with Rory, how much people would have freaked out about it? I got all the different expectations for different players, but it's just like, no one really thinks that about Fleetwood right now. It's kind of like, yeah, it didn't work out, but just kind of the different standards that people are held to is kind of highlighted there.
Starting point is 00:50:39 And they're like, well, I agree with that. I was gonna make the same point. It's, you know, if he was somebody by a different name, we might be detonating. I'm starting to feel the way, I feel about Fleetwood the way I felt about Spieth two years ago, three years ago, which is every time he tees it up, and you look at the golf course, you're like, oh my god, like this is this fits Fleetwood perfectly. And every time he rushes out and he plays well in the first couple of rounds,
Starting point is 00:51:02 so yeah, he's occupying a pretty big part of my heart right now. So I'm hoping that it does click the way you're talking about TC. I almost feel like it gets to the point. Maybe where like a Jason Day point, or sorry, I got all sorts of Freudian shit going on. A Dustin Johnson point where DJ was T5 this week.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Nobody's accusing him of choking or, you know, he was consistent throughout the week. Right. His floor is probably, you know, on a good week, it's probably a top five or a top 10. And on a, you know, on a bad week, it's a miscut. I think Fleetwood's floor may even be a little bit above that, but it's, but it's ceiling's probably
Starting point is 00:51:44 a little bit below. Shout out to Fleetwood for the Betty made up, and bit above that, but it's a sea, but it's ceiling's probably a little bit below Shout out to Fleetwood for the Betty made up and going for the pin on 17 though by the way Like truly trying to win it go ahead Randy It is interesting though just looking at his results this season on the PJ tour He's he's played six events including the players His first and second rounds right so six six events first and second round, we're talking 12 events. He's broken 79 times, third and fourth round. He's broken 71s. I think some of it's got a one data him feeling out playing in the US more to. I think also when he wanted to give some love to Abraham answer, he had a really, really excellent week
Starting point is 00:52:21 and played better than the T12 they got, but in Ollie as well. Yeah, I was going to give a special shout out to Ollie. I think he completed the full Icarito cycle one, starting with a go-T, going to a mustache, getting up to the top of the leaderboard, flew too close to the sun, dumped in the water on 17 and flew back to T6. Yeah, that was a costly whole for him. Joel Damon as well, T-12.
Starting point is 00:52:45 T-12 and then very, very quiet T-20 for Bryson, 70, 69, 69, 71. Randy, you know what he comments there? What? No. What are you looking for Bryson? Well, I think he really got, I, you know, Bryson, Bryson's my guy.
Starting point is 00:53:02 I'm looking for him to win a major this year. I think he also probably got freed up once they got that suspect in custody in the Gambino family boss murder a couple of weeks ago. So as soon as you started saying that, do that's what you're gonna say. Yeah, he had his baffee outfit on all week. Look at like a jumpsuit. Look at like he's ready to take out some pastrami say, which is at the deli. Shout out to Brendan Poirot.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Yeah, I was gonna say, I forget who came up with that one or the original name. The original name. Every time it starts raining and then he's gonna put on the rain carry just with that hat. That's my fate. The last thing I've got is, I'm kind of worried about Brian Harmon.
Starting point is 00:53:46 With his hair? Yeah. Like he had some of the best flow, you know, ever. And then a couple of weeks ago I saw that picture and it just really threw me for a loop and it kind of shook me to my brotherhood. Welcome to my brotherhood. Yeah, I mean, I'm, you know, I'm a, you know, I know all you guys are baldest. You're prejudiced against bald people. And we let you hang out with that.
Starting point is 00:54:08 I'm right. I'm just a beast. Can you have you ever talked publicly about your, about your baldness? When did it really start to go for you? It, you know, what? It happens very, very, very quickly. Well, that's what I identify with, with, with Harman. But, you know, it seems like he just, he accepted the hell out of it.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Instead of going to the kind of the spieth cat hair plug route. I mean, it's like he just he accepted the hell out of it instead of going the kind of the speed cat hair plug route I mean it's that that picture is yeah, yeah Not great. I had no idea all right. Let's wrap. I just want to give one more quick shout out to to guy this guy And I'm not really encouraging this it is same Patrick's day. I think everybody's having a good time this guy called in I haven't checked but I think it was six times when we started recording and all of the messages are basically to this effect Patrick from Cleveland Ohio Rory one on see Patrick say listen And it's awesome everything's awesome. You're you're all the best
Starting point is 00:55:02 Patrick from Cleveland. I love you. I love you. All right. That is it. We're going to roll in our interview with Kierdeck, Abib Bonrat. A lot of people asking if we interviewed him in between his round one 84 and his round two 69. We did not. We actually interviewed him on Tuesday. So we can't take too much credit for the Eddie Pepper L podcast bump. Maybe that's why he shot 84. That might have been it. Actually, we gave him some pretty negative. Neal's sitting a little too close to him, I think. So what a thrill to hear Neal on the pod.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Yeah, we got a great chance to chat with him. He was awesome. And yeah, some of the stories that he tells here, listening back to it, it sounded different in person even kind of the way he expressed himself and laughed. And here in the story kind of of the sponsor. I hope that really shines through that basically changes life as a kid and how he doesn't even have a contract with them. He is a guy that you meet some people and you end up rooting for them less. He's the exact opposite. He's someone that you just walks into the room and you're like, God,
Starting point is 00:56:01 that guy absolutely loves life and just loves where he is in the know, where he is, where he is in the world. So it's very, it's cool to see that. Cool. All right. We'll put a wrap on the players championship here. And next voice you'll hear will be Kierdeck, Epibond, right? Cheers. Cheers.
Starting point is 00:56:15 All right. Now, welcome again, Kierdeck, Epibond, right? Second cut. Roll it. Let's try this again. Neil, why don't you start us off here? Well, Kierdeck, this is an absolute pleasure. I've been a big fan for a long time.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Back when no laying up was getting started, one of the first pieces I wrote for the website, the blog, as they say, was about you, because I think you were just dominating the Asian tour at the time. And I was living in California, so I was watching like late night golf. And it was basically like, you know, the Malaysian tournaments. And I was like, who is this guy? And you put this crazy move on the ball. And then I got a media pass.
Starting point is 00:56:56 The first time I think we got one for no laying up at the AT&T Pro Am. And I believe that was one of your first tournaments. And I saw you on the putting green green and I was too scared to say hi So hello here we are So here we are official high right official high. Yeah, it's just that's what go great Being only four years. Yeah, so right and I also saw you Teo on 10 at the master's press this round, okay, and I don't know if you remember it was like I think speech and well if I say I remember you you're believing me. What did you say?
Starting point is 00:57:29 If I say I'm living, but you're you're leaving me. Uh, no. Well, okay, that's just true thing. I mean, it's like 10,000 people's around, but well, I was looking at your Wikipedia page and I saw that one of your friends had to have written this on your actual Wikipedia page. It says you referred to as the Asian John daily. Where does that come from and do you like that comparison? Oh, I love it. John is one of the greatest player in the world. He got
Starting point is 00:57:56 like three major under his belt. He hit like miles. He is far. He's swinging hard. I mean, He is far, he's swinging hard. I mean, someone called you like Asian Johnnerly, I really proud of it. You know, we got really similar backswing, we got really long backswing and we can't get any longer. Otherwise we're going to hit the balls and then on the back. And, you know, it was Greg Stolley, Greg Nicknames, backhomes, and I'm really happy with it. So one of the first questions to come to mind for me is I have no idea what golf is like in Thailand. great nicknames back home and I'm really happy with it. So one of the first questions that come to mind for me is I have no idea what golf is
Starting point is 00:58:27 like in Thailand. So what was it like for you growing up playing the game and how did you get into the game? It's a very simple back in Thailand. Before it's just a really slow start but now it's really popular. I don't know that all the parents look at the result, what we make, look at the stall, what we make, the career, what we win, or just look at the check. I couldn't tell. But just getting there, I started golf when I was 8 years old, which is not popular at all, it's just like old sport. You know, you're gonna meet the guy like 60 years old to playing sport
Starting point is 00:59:06 You would go to the golf course. Yeah, I mean the first time you get in the golf course I bet that someone gonna die in the golf course Walk you know one step. They got a hard time to just get one step Yeah, and that's like oh shit my dad being here for? I just want to be in the soccer field, run around, kid rounds. I was doing my homework, same as normal kid, but I'm just getting lazy. If my dad's saying, if you're playing golf, he'd get someone to help me or doing homework for me.
Starting point is 00:59:37 So I'm just running, grab a golf club straight away. So that expanded how I love schools. Yeah. So, and then the first three shot was in Spamie, I have to say in that way, I'm playing soccer, I'm playing table tennis, I pay, um, basketball, by Binton, almost every spot back in school. Um, but I can kick the ball, I can hit the ball even the ball, moving the air left and right, but the golf ball was like a feet in front of you and sitting there still, like stay still, I miss the first free shot. So like wow, this spot is interesting. Yeah, I'm trying to
Starting point is 01:00:15 beat this one. And every day is different. You're hitting five yards, 10 yards, you can improve every day. You think you're good at the wedge now, you can hit the ball and win up, got the launch. But one day you're coming with a different hands, longer. Well, I keep missing again because longer. And it's, you know, want to improve every step. So that's why I'm getting to go off and try to beat it. Yeah. And where'd you grow up playing? Was it a country club, a private club, a public club? Just public club. Public. Public. Is that the vibe mainly for golf in Thailand, mostly public? Mostly, mostly. And well, I would say it depends on how are your families. I mean, if you can afford the good golf course, you can just go playing a private golf course, which is good families. I mean, you can just go playing a private golf club very nice and best factility, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:11 range practicing, but I start from range hitting ball and range and then pay, pay like six whole pathrees, you know, a shot 140, I 50 yards. Yeah, so that's the way I'm growing up. Yeah, and then, so, I mean, I would call your swing iconic. I'm curious if anyone growing up tried to change it,
Starting point is 01:01:32 shorten it, you know, tell you like, hey, you're making it, like, because you said, it took you a few tries to even make contact to get the ball, anybody try to tinker with the, the move you have? No one tried to change it just myself. Yeah, I just used to think that um, let's think that the good golf swing like Adam Scott. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:01:57 I was dreaming like, well, I couldn't have the golf swing like Adam Scott. If I practiced there, I got to swing like him. I can't just practice three hours per day, but the swing like me, I got to swing like him. I can't just practice three hours per day, but the swing like me had to practice six hours per day. Because I, I mean, I need more hitting more to let the memories to remember it was a movement of the bodies. Compare with Scott, which is like, very nice. And, you know, but look, other way, if I'm like him, am I not playing golf?
Starting point is 01:02:26 He looks good, smart. I mean, somewhere in Hollywood. Maybe. I mean, that's why he's just walking the golf course. He looks too good for the golf course. I think it's all his spot that I mean, you're, I mean, short and big fat guy can play. It's all his spot. I bet you never seen seeing the guy like me
Starting point is 01:02:46 who run around in soccer or basketball field. Yeah. For sure. How are you gonna run? 90 minutes, do you imagine? Yeah. It's only spot that I can play. And playing with Scotty, somehow it looks funny to me.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Yeah. What the hell are you doing in this? I know, it's the best. It should be on the catwalk or somewhere. Golf needs more swings. Yeah. Like yours. I really, I truly believe that.
Starting point is 01:03:09 What was it like at the Olympics then for you? Oh. Man, when you walk into the village, that, all the athletes. Yeah. Well, you have to sing all the boxer, all the gymnastic or running guys. Just go run around. And just, you know, look at them like, what are you doing? Why do you have to run? Why do you have to work out?
Starting point is 01:03:29 Man, just sleep. We got it five for what? We just we got the 10 and playing 12. Yeah. But, and then they eat just like cat eating, you know, just, you know, three bites and then done. No, we just eat what you want. Ice cream, sweet, whatever it is. They never enjoy life. I would tell you that. I love it.
Starting point is 01:03:52 I mean, I don't know how long I'm gonna leave though. I just want to enjoy it. It'd be by that it's taken. Yeah. For sure. And then back to the stuff you said, growing up, you played a lot table tennis. Yeah. How's your game? Same with my golf that I can tell. That's good. Yeah. You got, you're pretty good on the table. Not bad, but I think it can beat almost everyone.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Yeah. Any, I bet I feel like you don't have any table tennis. A table. I don't know. Table tennis here, right? I don't have to find one. All right. So I can say whatever it is.
Starting point is 01:04:23 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you play any of the tie Olympic tennis players? No, I have no chance. This is Ali. Ali golfed at playing. I love Snooker. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:35 That's Snooker. So. Yeah, pools huge in Thailand. Yeah, it's billion. I guess. Yeah, Snooker was really huge in Thailand. It's really popular. It's getting back on the road again used to be
Starting point is 01:04:47 really popular and then know any Snooker Play on the tour on the field and then disappear a little bit a couple years and then now we get back and get get strong again Yeah, so I read an article by Alan Shipnuck and I think he came and kind of hung out with you in Bangkok a couple years ago. In there it sounded like you had a story about a $150,000 car payment that kind of served as a little bit of motivation for you. Were you able to pay off that car? Well at the end I pay off that car but it's just a little bit late of the deal that
Starting point is 01:05:26 I support to pay. It's really funny, Sali. I got, like, example, I can't remember exactly the numbers. I think, let's say I got like, 10,000 in my bank account, then you're going in the showroom to get a nice car, showroom to get 150,000 car. But depends on the tax, you know, the back home in part tax was really expensive. So it's caused like 150, but then me and my dad, yeah, just go like we surf side of paperwork, everything contract.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Then I just realized that I got 10,000 in the bank. Yeah. But she got four weeks. Yeah, I got four weeks, Exactly. The deal is four weeks. And my next golf event was next five weeks. So, well, well, I can't get the money in time for sure. For sure, because the golf event going to happen happening like a week after the car alive, then I'm saying, okay, let me go back half of our weeks and and I'll come back. So the next week I'm going back to our side paperwork, everything. So the cow will be alive on the same day.
Starting point is 01:06:30 It's got to even start. So I know that was a goal for me. So I have to win this. I've been a second, I think. But I forgot to look at the price money. Yeah. Even second, it's not covered a car. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:42 I mean, the worst thing even I win that week is to not cover the car. I was like, what the hell am I doing? So I'm keep playing, keep in Y, get in Y and play every week to get the cash and at the end I get it. But it just take like a month later than that. Later than the deal. You still have the car?
Starting point is 01:07:02 The car was my caddy at the moment. Yeah, I'm driving my wifedies at the moment. Yeah. I'm driving my wife or thriving. Let's say I'm using there and then I got a new car, I passed it to my wife. Then when my wife got a new car to my sister, I want to keep it so bad because it's a good memory. I'm not selling away. I'm just giving to the caddies, that my caddies that be worked together for almost 10 years.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Yeah. So my caddy was right must it has been back home. Yeah. That's a good caddy treatment. Yeah. If you've been working with your caddy for a long time, for a long time, yeah, about 10 years. How'd you guys meet? It's a good story. I'm actually he's not my, my caddies. He's a friend of my ex-caddies. So my caddy had to go wedding, some wedding home, his friend wedding or something. He'd take off for two weeks and he'd just get the job by my friend, you know, on the back for two weeks, just passed down job.
Starting point is 01:08:08 And then I win, I win that two weeks. Yeah, both weeks. Yeah. Yeah. So you just recently took up membership on the PGA tour. What was, is that always been a goal of yours? And why did you decide to take it up now? Well, I think it's all about cash, though. Well, it's not. No. Well, PGA tour was one of the biggest tour if you're playing basketball, you're the same as you want to be the NBA, you know, you want to be the biggest feel in the world, which is PGA Tour. I was dreaming every kid back home is dreaming to playing on the PGA Tour, but I had dreaming to win on the PGA tour, but I dream to win on the PGA tour. It's just make the, how you're saying, it's the new things in Thailand to make the new generation
Starting point is 01:08:51 in spy and it's just to make my bank account in spy as well. Yeah. So are you setting new crazy goals like you did with the $150,000? Yeah, I do. Well, I was just planning to buy a jet. I just want to be faster than Ian Porter. Oh, he got the huge furry collection, which is all,
Starting point is 01:09:15 I mean, all of his house can be like a thousand horsepower. Like, no, like a million horsepower, you know. Yeah, just a lot of good cars. And I kind of thought that for sure. I mean, I have to buy a jet to be faster than him. It's too late for me to start now. Have you calculated how many tournaments you'd have to finish second in to buy a jet? I start thinking about last week that I made him and go to his house. I think I have to win like 19 DJ tour that? That include the bonus of the sponsor maybe. Okay, so I can't afford all the card that he has, but start with this week, the players, that would be a good one.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Yeah, I think we better start it right now. I'd be like 19-week in a row, and we can go straight. I noticed the SINGA logo on your shirt, and I've been to Thailand a couple times. I may or may not have one of the SINGA tag tops because shirt. And I've been to Thailand a couple of times. I may or may not have one of the SINGA tank tops, because I was one of those backpackers. Don't hold it against me. But I've never seen him on a kind of a golf shirt. So I always feel like a packbacker's tank top.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Oh, we got really good relationship. And good story with Kuntzantit Pilompakdi is the owner of Singapore. I, I, I, I'm saying my, my ice companies, my dad business was, doesn't go so well when I was a kid. And somehow Koon Santhit just jumped in and support me when I doesn't have anything. You know, just pay for the golf going to play in the coffee room.
Starting point is 01:10:48 I doesn't mean that he gives the money because when we were a major, we're not allowed to get the money. He's just supported you. Yeah. Exactly. He's just supporting and then, you know, let me survive on this tour. I could say he's my second dad. He's my half of my golf career.
Starting point is 01:11:06 And he loved this spot, he loved to give away, it doesn't matter to have, you have to be good and then they pay you. They pay me when he was, when I was like, nobody, he was like 12 years old, 10 years old, and they're giving out like 100 kids. And the good thing is they never turn around, they don't walk away, they just with you, even if you want to be there you'll retire, they're gonna give you a work, just work in the company or work whatever you want. And the things that everyone in the world might be not understanding is just the relationship for
Starting point is 01:11:41 between me and the companies, you have no contract. And we just, you know, hard to hard, just believe men to men. Many sponsors just been trying to walk in and saying, like, how much that sing-up pay to be on a chest, which is quite a huge number. I'm saying, okay, just give me a week, so give me a month, I think about that. I go call whatever I have in, okay, just give me a week, so give me a month, I think about that. I go call whatever I have in my life,
Starting point is 01:12:07 which is like a lot. And I told them they were surprised. I was saying, okay, they give all my life. They keep my everything in my life. So if you wanna sponsor me, you have to call everything what I got now. Not included in the next test that's coming. Not including that one, but this, you know.
Starting point is 01:12:26 There's a lot, it's huge. You wouldn't have become what you've become without their reports at a young age. You can't ever replace it. Exactly. That's cool. Who were some of your golf heroes growing up in Thailand? Tiger.
Starting point is 01:12:37 I have to say in Thai. It's a common answer. You're not surprised. So, back in that town in Asia, Tiger is really popular. And he's not just a golf athlete. He's just like a great spot players in my life. I never see anyone be good like him. Was dreaming to play one same event like him back in the day.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Then I can't remember. It's like 2014 or 15. I was playing in the same event like him back in the day, then I can't remember it's like 2014 or 15, I was playing in the same event. I believe that the PGA championship is the major. So I was practicing on the end of the range on the left side and he threw a lot of crowns spectator around. I was keeping balls in turn around who just a lot of people even on the range. And when Tiger was show up, he walked across the beach, you know, walked out to the right of the range, so opposite of me. Yeah. I'm just eating balls. I know Tiger is coming. I'm just keeping balls in turn around with no one here. No one behind me, not even one. Yeah. Not even the bird. And I was talking to my caddy, he's like,
Starting point is 01:13:46 he's like getting that naked, you know, taking my shirt, yeah. No one could have realized. Yeah. I was talking to all my sweater, I was getting cold, I was taking all my sweater. I was telling him, I know one looking man, take all my shirt.
Starting point is 01:14:01 There was no one looking me, no one even laughing at me. I was telling caddy, he's like getting Towsons off I get nagging and hit boss. No one gonna lick on ice. That's sure. Tiger is a god, you know, in this game No one can just keep the eye out of him. They're hypnotized on him. Yeah, I just wanted to know what he eat what he What he eat normally what he doing and then to be like him. Have you played with him? No, no She asked you be nervous to play with him. Oh, yeah, of course of course I was dreaming to be playing with him on the third round not a final round Because I can't give me a day to improve my game back. Yeah, I'm sure that I'm kind of playing golf with him
Starting point is 01:14:42 Because when you're playing with someone that you love that's your hero You keep on high on him. Yeah, you know, how many steps you get in the restroom and you know What's the first thing he get in and out? Well, you want to know every everything of his movement in the golf course. Yeah, I got chance to talk to him in Mexico Lots a couple weeks in work off like on fair too fast on cutting greens I was like, oh, how are you? And you ask me are you playing well? I'm just going to tour I was like wow, that's cool. That's very cool. Yeah, I feel again. I just can't feel my hands
Starting point is 01:15:16 Yeah, even he's just talking to me a couple words. Yeah, but really difficult to expand how I feel when I'm meeting him or how I saw him He's one of the best Person I'm seeing he looked light and shining. Yeah, so so his mom is from Thailand Yeah, does that is do you think there's like a laser pride in that in Thailand? Do they you guys feel like that? He's yeah, I feel that he half Thai Yeah, but that that he half Thai. But just far from me and for everyone back home feel. I don't know what he thinks, but we always know that his mom is Thai.
Starting point is 01:15:56 But I know he doesn't spend a lot of time in Thailand back home for sure. You know, even when he moved here, when he was a kid, he's not even going to speak any Thai. But we know it. Sure. Well, we played with Area Jutana Garne last week, and you learned some Thai. Some Thai foodies. I asked her what her favorite Thai dish was,
Starting point is 01:16:16 and I tried to pronounce it, and I think it's a- Batonam-ba. Yeah. Batonam-ba. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Batonam. Okay. It's a deep-fi fish with fish sauce on the top. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, she got a good, she got a good, she a good cook, she improving. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:45 She not used to cook, not even one ditch, but now she get, she get to working on it. Yeah. Because she knows that I love to eat in the house. I don't wanna go out. I just wanna be relaxed and in short, or somewhere I'm just be yourself, you know, eating homes and she getting there, she getting there.
Starting point is 01:17:04 Okay. So in the ship knock article, it said that your quote was like, I like to have goals, you know, you know, you have something to chase. And I'm curious if this year you have any specific goals on the course other than, you know, obviously, win, right? But like, is there anything specific not related to just like winning a tournament that you're okay so for the second then not me So second from here to end of the year I will make like At least Seven millions. It's all about the money. Yeah Cash is king cash is king cash is king. So what else do you spend money on?
Starting point is 01:17:42 Car watch just cars and watch shoes. Yes, good one shoes. What kind of shoes do you do shop? I'm a big fan of Yeezy Yeah Can you spot fake Yeezy's immediately? I can I can well I'm not gonna tell you the prize because I've been talking back and forward to my wife that Just cheap. Yeah, I tell my wife So she's not gonna listen to this Well, okay. Well, I will keep thinking maybe she not play attention to the shoes to the sneaker is cheap like 50 bucks You know for the she lays some. Yeah, some parents can get like 3000 but Every pair was 50. Yeah
Starting point is 01:18:28 What about non-Golf related goals? Non-Golfer. Off the course, you have any goals? Wow. Well, I want to have a kid. Yeah. But it's not coming yet. I've been dead with my wife for 11 years. I've been married for three years.
Starting point is 01:18:40 It's not happening yet. I'm working on it. I'm keep patising. I'm on on it. I'm keep petting. I'm on the making process, but it's not that easy, you know, it's not sharp enough like I'm playing your deep in the process. Yeah, just, you know, sometimes my iron is like solid, but something it doesn't that solid. So I have to work on it. Maybe a sharp is not strong enough. You have to build a new shop, maybe.
Starting point is 01:19:05 Listen, that could, you know, we got to experiment with the equipment a little bit. Yeah, I guess, yeah. You have to work on it. But I got it very soon. I'll let you guy know. I got it good. Two questions.
Starting point is 01:19:16 What's the most nervous you've ever been to hit a golf shot? The most nervous? Most nervous. Do me wish you vent, is that? Just what shot were you the most nervous for ever in your life? It should be a pot. Yeah, pot to win is the most nervous. Is it? I have kind of a rich one. Well, I was saying is the one in Mexico last week, last like a couple of weeks, I just feel like, um, how to say enough to hear I've been take six weeks off away from the golf course for quite long.
Starting point is 01:19:51 And then I come back to play well again, I'm, I'm like, I'm starting playing golf event again and getting really nervous to get the backswing on the powder. I'm finished around. I'm just want to measure how heavy my powder is, but it's the same. Yeah. I was couldn't take a backswing. I don't know. I just want to measure how heavy my power is, but it's the same. Yeah. I was couldn't take a backswing. I don't know it's so heavy, but you know, at the day and I just made the job done with like top three in the World Cup, which is good point. It's good for me for both tour, even the rest of Dubai and the FedEx point.
Starting point is 01:20:20 What do you, and last one, what do you think of TPC sawgrass? Have you played here a couple of times before in the players championship? What are you expecting this week? I hit 17. Why do you hate it? They heard me last time. They heard me a lot. I was like, I was, I remember it was like seven under after 16. And I was up there in the top 10. And what happened? I make seven on a 17 17 I hit in the water two balls Was it hurt me a lot, you know what how bad is that I Stay one more night in Jacksonville and then I called it golf course I want to go back play on Monday again. I want to play in 17 hole again. Wow, but they turned me down They turn even you down, okay, okay, I got what they mean
Starting point is 01:21:03 So I got I got one more question. Never been the last huh? Yeah, well It's kind of close to my heart. I see Sometimes I you know there's a few pictures out there of you with the vape with the break and I'm curious what your favorite flavors. What he got in what he got in the vape rig? I like yogurt yogurt and he's any favorite flavor of yogurt. It's one in a loteyprek? I like yogurt. Yogurt? Any flavor of yogurt? Like vanilla yogurt. I love yogurt.
Starting point is 01:21:29 I just love this meal. I keep up on the web now, but because, because wife. Yeah. Man, I guess. That makes sense. You know, you've been to somewhere that got a lot of mosquito all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Just flying around your ear like me.
Starting point is 01:21:49 Same as a wife. Just talking like me. Right. It's no good. Whatever it is. But it just keep talking. And then I was like one day I'm just keep up because I'm not that healthy. I'm saying I just want to enjoy my life. I'm enjoying my work. I'm enjoying my life. But when you hear it every, not every day, every minute, you'll get like, okay, I'll give up. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I was gonna say when I was watching you play back in like 2014
Starting point is 01:22:16 and you know, you got the six out on the court. Like that's, it's, I feel you. I know it's not good for you. It's not good. It's not good. But it doesn't occur to you. I know it's not good for you. It's not good. It's not good. But it's not a good. It's just the fun hubbid, I think. Yeah, I hear you. I'm still a little kid from that day.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Yeah. And coming from really small country back homes, a lot of friends, we'd love to do crazy things, a lot of funny things. Yeah. Which is some good and some were not good. I realized that and I apologize all of the bad thing that I do. Let's meet you. Make sure you send that to my wife as well. I apologize that but at the end I have to
Starting point is 01:23:00 try to be a good boy and try to show everyone that I'm at lead, you know, yeah, try to be healthy But I'm not gonna run like all the box. They're not gonna run wake up at five not not that much But I'll try to be nice and healthy. Yeah, awesome. Hey, thanks for joining us. This is a lot of fun best of luck this week Thank you. You shared it Get a right club. be the right club today. Yeah! That's better than most. How about in?
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