No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 21: Shane Bacon on the US Open & British

Episode Date: June 30, 2015

Fox’s own Shane Bacon joined me to talk about the crazy US Open, what it’s like to broadcast a major sporting event, as well as his personal insight onto St. Andrews, and the current state... The post NLU Podcast, Episode 21: Shane Bacon on the US Open & British appeared first on No Laying Up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No-Lang Up Podcast. We have from Fox our go-to correspondent when it comes to picking majors. Shane, we didn't get to do this for the US Open where we just basically read off every player in the field as if we like their chances. From Fox, Mr. Shane Bacon, who do we like for the u.s. open where we just basically read off every player in the field as if we like their chances from fox

mr. shame bacon who do we like for the british open uh... you just read down the yeah yeah did just read from the top actually do they have the field finalized yet can we just read the entire field of uh... yeah i i love uh... promise a can alphabetical order uh... I love Thomas Aiken. Okay. Alpha medical order. Um, first, thanks for having me. Always a good time.

Happy to be, uh, happy to be back, uh, at my home. And it's been a kind of a long two weeks, crazy, crazy two weeks working. But yeah, what's, what's, what's talk, talk to us about what your life's been like for the last like a month? Because from what we can tell in social media, I was actually joking about the bridge open question. We'll get to that. From what we see on social media, I was actually joking about the British Open question. We'll get to that.

From what we see on social media, you're basically living the dream, playing, I think all 378 courses in Scotland, and then you just broadcasted two events. But it's as perfect as it seems, right? Oh, it's just perfect. You know, that's been, you know, it's been, my last like, nine, 10 weeks have been pretty crazy.

I mean, I think when people complain or, no, I'm not complaining, but when people talk about how much they've been traveling and such, you know, that's kind of like when people talk about flights being delayed, you're like, well, every story is the same. So why would you do that to me? But, yeah, I mean, I got to go out the skyline and play

a whole bunch of the courses up in the Highlands, which is really cool because I've never played up there. And, you know, it's, you know, I got to go out the skyland and play a whole bunch of the courses up in the Highlands, which is really cool because I've never played up there. And you know, it's, you know, everybody goes to the skyland and plays field, coursing kings, barons, and turnberry, and all that stuff. But that island's area, man. I played a, probably my favorite course in the little trip is a course called Nayrn, which, you know, I mean, I'd never really even heard much about it, you know, and going up there and getting a chance to do that. Really, I mean, if you've read Tom Koen's book about Ireland, I've never really heard much about it, you know, and going up there and getting a chance to do that.

Really, I mean, if you've read Tom Koyne's book about Ireland, I just think everybody should do that in Scotland or Ireland like once in a life. Just go somewhere and take your clubs and have no reservations and play some golf. But yeah, right after that, it was off to work and out of chambers for a week, the mountain sacrament over the senior, which,

you know, when the hype for Chambers Bay and getting all excited for the US Open and the first one for Fox, you have to be a part of it. Gotty gotty gotty, and then you get to the senior and you're kind of like, you know, I hope it's not all that down a week, right? And to have as crazy of finishes that, I mean, that was just to be a part of that and like being in it was like almost as excited as Chambers Bay. And I know it's weird to think that, but like, you know, when you're doing that for work and getting to do this thing, and there's like nine people changing lead slun Saturday and Sunday and all these different things happening.

I mean, you know, it could be you and your buddies playing. I don't know if you've somebody was like watching that and definitely it'd be pretty fun to watch, you know. Well, first, let me say thank you for getting me really inspired from my trip to play the old course Turnberry and Kings Barnes here in about a month, as you describe it. Well, everyone plays those. I mean, you know that.

No, no, no, I really appreciate. I'm really, really excited for that. You know, I planned, uh, planned basically my entire summer round and you just dismissed it as if it was, uh, as if it was secondary to everything you do. No, that's great. No, thank you for that. So yeah, the first question I wanted to ask you about,

basically broadcasting the US Open was, I mean, how hard was it to follow the actual action going on? Because those that don't know, Shane was doing the featured coverage online. He was covering, I believe, the 12th and the 15th holes. Basically, every group that came through there on a loop for, I think, nine hours at a time. I know you had some breaks in there, the 12th and the 15th holes, basically every group that came through there on a loop for I think nine hours at a time. I know you had some breaks in there, but how hard was it

actually follow what was going on in the tournament yet still focus on your duties, you know, being the play by play announcer on those holes? Well, you know, one of the nice things we had was we had in our booth, we had, you know, you have a whole bunch of, you know, screens and stuff where you can follow what's going on and you see people walking off 11 and you can have a feel for it, but we also have like tournament coverage in there as well so that you know what's happening.

And while it's definitely harder to follow than say, I mean, obviously, normally just sitting around watching, you know, simply the network broadcast of what's happening, but you know, you get a good feel for it. I mean, you know, you get to see the players come through twice, which is nice. I mean, you know, like you said, I get to do 12 and 15. So every player is coming through our window twice. So, you know, when speed would come through or dust would come through or whatever,

you know, you get a chance to have them two times a day. But you know, you want to make sure, you know, what's going on with them so that when they come through, it's not a surprise. So that's, it wasn't as hard as I thought it was going to be. I'll say that. I thought it was going to be me having no clue what was really happening in the championship and then you get in the moment and you kind of have a feel for it. You're definitely focused on the leaderboard a lot of the time because you want to know where

your players sit and stand when they come through. So I would say when I got the Chambers Bay, I was a little bit nervous that come Sunday, I would have absolutely no idea what was actually happy, you know, in the competitive side of things, because I'd be so focused what we were doing, and we had a lot that are clue of what was happening. And one of the nice things was on Sunday, so, you know, we're staying through the window, right? We stayed through the guys finished on 15. So Justin makes that par on 15, huge par.

He had to make it. And we have a sign off and it's me and Robert Dameron and we sign off. And I had our stat guy, this guy named Kevin. I wrote him a note on like, Dustin was like on 14. I go, go find us a golf cart and hit it a month ago. And Kevin's like, OK, he runs out.

And he comes back and he's like, thumbs up. So they put out on 15. I have our sign off. I mean, Robert, like, jet out the out of our booth, jumping this guy's golf cart and get out to, and we got out to 17. And we watched Speednake, double on 17. And then we walked up 18 with them. And then I was up on 18, um, you

know, watching those guys come through and I've been in some, you know, golf arenas before. Um, and that, the, what you heard, um, you know, speed seagull putt of that thing would have gone down a bit crazy, but, you know, hearing that, hearing the cheers for him and then the roar that came with Dustin's second shot was like crazy energy to feel. I mean, I feel like people don't really appreciate it.

I talked about this with Porter, I think, last week. Don't really appreciate how amazing those four shots really were. I mean, both of their drives, perfect, speed, striping a three wood and DJ striping a five iron both within 15 feet for Eagles to win the US Open. I mean, on a 600-yard four or five. It's uphill, too, isn't it?

Yeah, I mean, it's a long golf hole. And it's what I said about Dustin, and I wrote this in my mailbag last week about Dustin Johnson. And of course, the questions that I'm sure we'll talk about, a little bit about it, I don't know if it's even still relevant, but was it a choke, was it not a choke? And my point was, he had a really, really tough eagle putt. And my opinion he had a good putt because it was high side,

probably hit it a little bit too aggressively, but that's also an incredibly quick putt. It's straight down hill. I thought that ball would feed. I thought it'd get to about seven feet and it just kind of stayed on that hill. But if you think about Dustin Johnson, after 16, he's an absolutely perfect shot on 17,

a perfect drive on 18, and a perfect second shot on 18. I mean, full swing wise in the pressure, you know, when he had to do it, he made three of probably the best swings he made all day, you know, to his final three full swings the day. It just was unfortunate that obviously the, I mean, the bad shot was, you know, the, the birdie putt. I mean, that was just a pull. You could tell right off the blade. But yeah, it was, it was crazy. I mean, people say, oh, man, he's not clutched to the, and you go, I don't mean he hit some great, great, great shots.

It just was an unfortunate three put at the end. Yeah, I mean, like we'll be looking at it differently. If let's say he drove it, you know, five yards off the fairway and into a bunker, had to pitch out and then, you know, hit a wedge to within five feet, whatever, then miss the putt. I mean, I think we'd still be, you know, flinching a little bit at, you know, that, at that five footer. But let's say he wedged just like 10, 12 feet, misses the putt. I mean, I think we'd still be, you know, the flinching a little bit at, you know, that, at that five footer. But let's say he wedged just like 10, 12 feet, misses the putt. There's no way we'd call it a choke. Like, the only reason it's a choke is he put himself in such a

great position. Yeah. From 12 feet to three putt that is brutal. But like, people comparing, I mean, like, I've heard people make like, Van Develle comparisons, like that's the worst. It's like, God, no way, no way. But I mean, it was, I don't know, I've said this in our, I think in a recap or whatever I'm talking about this with Porter, or just about, I hated the fact that it came down to a four foot put on those bumpy and unpredictable greens. I mean, I don't know where you stand on what,

what you saw out there at Chambers Bay, and I know you played out there about a month or two before. I mean what were the greens like A when you played out there and what did you think about the overall players complaining about the greens and the actual surfaces? Well I mean I think you've heard stuff come out at this point about the surfaces and how obviously it was some polar got in there that they were that they weren't expecting obviously obviously. You know, I went out and rolled balls on our two holes every day. And I never got any of those hops like we saw with Grand Stetaker. You know, I mean, I just never saw anything that bumpy,

but I was also out there earlier in the morning. You know, so I got them kind of at their smooth at this time. I think that when I played it, they were, I mean, they were great. I mean, you know, when I played it they were they were I mean they were great I mean, you know when I when I played it I probably played what seven eight weeks ago or seven eight weeks before You know the US open weeks so they were I mean they were in great condition when I was out there It's so yeah, I mean, you know, I mean obviously you can't predict that kind of stuff I was just reading I was finishing up the shame Ryan book and you know you forget about Piner's last year And Piner's looking so difficult, so tough.

Morton Kymre's saying that he'd take eight over before the championship started, and then they watered it and rain came in, and it was a little bit different. So, you can't predict that kind of stuff. And so, people saying, will they ever have anything out there again, is Chambers they ever gonna host anything?

I think that they would want V-G Greens to be in better shape next time. But, I mean, I think when you look at the leaderboard and when you look at who finished towards the end, you can't take away from the names there. I mean, I think that although the best players in the world did rise, you know, up at Chambers Bay, and I think that's very important in the world did rise up at Chambers Bay. And I think that's very important in the sense of what you wanted to championship. So, you could have had, I mean, listen, I always say, we had Chad Campbell and Sean McEill battle for a major one time.

You could just Johnson and Jordan speed battling. You gotta take it when you can. And I mean, in the sense of drama and excitement at the end, I mean, Rory and Adam Scott and all this stuff happening, I mean, worry in Adam Scott and all this stuff happening. I mean, who's tasting the finish? Are you kidding me? There was so much happening that I think all in all when you look back, you look at it as a successful you are so simply because of what happened at the end of the drama that was built. Yeah, I agree. I mean, I wouldn't, I think it worked out really well for

them as far as, you know, who was there at the end of the day, it being really the day at being really close and the guys that struck at the best were there at the end of the week. But the neutralization of the putting factor, I saw speed hit putts, I've never seen them hit before. The whole time I'm waiting down that back nine and just hoping that it doesn't come down to a really unpredictable and crucial putt. I don't know if that last putt can be blamed can be blamed on a piece of pole that came up or DJ really just pulled it. But I mean, that, that was, I guess, my, my biggest complaint with chambers. But there was just, and there was some instances where, I mean, like Jason Day striped the ball

down the middle of fairway, prematurely grabs the tee and then hits something and it ends up in the left rough. Or like, I think there's a speed that a t-shirt on 8 on either Saturday or Sunday that hit in the left rough and missed the fairway to the right. It kicked so hard. So I just think that there were some really quirky things that you know it loses I'm all for a challenge but at the same time there's really good shots that were just punished, you know, and some really quirky shapes to it. Yeah, but like, you know, okay, and I mean definitely moments that I agree with you, and there

was times where you thought a good shot was great, and it would obviously not be rewarded, you know, but like, when events are played on courses like that, be it on the US Open or British Open, you know, if it's a dried out British Open week or something like that I feel like that kind of stuff happens at times and I'll also say you know I mean they're going to open on next year. I mean open on it. Yeah open on is so hard I mean I just think the players these days especially tend to pull the complain card faster than it's ever been pulled. And I think when stuff's not absolutely 100% perfect, you know, people at home might not understand. Like the PG tour for the most part, every week is played in almost exactly similar conditions.

You know, the fairways are perfect. The greens are running about the same speed. They're always, almost always perfect. Again, I go back to Shane Ryan's book. He was talking about, it was a mad every's win or whatever. And it was, I think it was the green bar or something when the greens were really bad. No, it was a Derek Ernst at Wells Fargo. Yeah.

And the greens were really bad and people were complaining and complaining. You go, listen, sometimes there's just stuff you can't put it. And like, I think that the players are so used to this absolutely perfectly manicured place that if it's a bit off, then they are just up in arms, then you want to go guys. You know, this isn't a world hunger issue. I mean, you're playing golf. Like, let's take it down unnotch and just try to have a little bit perspective.

And at the end of the day, the US Open is not supposed to be easy. And at the end of the day, I think the best player in the world won it. I don't think. I mean, I think Jordan's being the best player in the best golf in the world by far. And it'll be interesting when they get to St. Andrews. I played St. Andrews about three weeks ago, and it was in perfect condition. Now, who knows what's going to happen in a week and a half when they get there or in the five weeks since I was there. But when I was there,

it was in great condition. So, it just kind of depends on, I mean, what if they got a scorching summer? You know, you just never quite know, but you know, you could always hope for the best, but I think the guys that, you know, I never really heard, the only time I really heard speak complain was about 18.

You know, that was the only time I heard him really get up and arms was about the part four, not the part five. And I thought keeping that kind of perspective on it is a helpful thing. Because once you, I really do believe when guys started complaining and saying, honest is to our, like, they were just, they just didn't have a chance, you know, because you already played yourself out of it mentally. But I think also the, the root of a lot of the complaining comes from, I think it does affect the setup.

The players show up during the week and they're whining about this so and so. Oh, they got to be careful. It doesn't get out of hand. Some of these pins are ridiculous. You can't tell me they doesn't have a little bit of effect on Mike Davis and his team and the way they set it up. I think they do guard against it, spiraling out of control. That's the last couple opens have been, I mean, I, I, what, Rory, obviously won a congressional at 1600, which is ridiculous

for US Open. Kimer won at nine under last year. I think Speed this year was at five under. I forget what, uh, 2013, who wanted it, or what they wanted out there. But I think all the complaining is, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's often the course sum. And they're going to water the course sum just to make sure that things don't get out of completely out of control. And you go to a course like Chambers Bay that doesn't have the history of a pebble beach or an oakmon or whatnot.

I mean, they don't have to worry about, you know, there's members walking around golf courses and, you know, part, part taking in these events. And, you know, you don't hear people complaining ridiculously about the setup at Oakmont or Pebble, like they were about Chambers Bay. There's no members at Chambers Bay, like they have no one that's worried about offending. And it's a course they've never been to before, so the players just let it rain. I mean, they had nothing to hold back on, but I mean, I think, I mean, obviously we saw speeds complaining. I think helped them. I mean, I don't think, Mike Davis, who claimed that the wind was the reason he made 18 to

par 5 on Sunday. I don't think that was the reason why. I think it was because of what Jordan Speed said. I will say whoever's decision it was, think the good Lord that it was part five. That was, you know, in my opinion, having 18s of part five there especially was extremely important for the excitement level. And I mean, you know, just anything on a part five is awesome. It's all be serious here. I mean, Tory Pines is awesome. He'll be just awesome. These places end on par-fives and make it tough, make it long, make it rough big.

But if you give guys a chance to make a score on the final hole, especially if nothing else, it's great. Also, let's also say this, how surprised were you that Jordan Speed didn't make his equal put on 18? Because he saw the putt break like four times. Bren and Grace's ball went up and down and up again. I was like, he is burying this thing.

But that's kind of what Back to the Sim about the Greens though. I lost my faith in speed on the Greens that like that week basically. Obviously he made the 16, the putt on 16 that rocked the house. But I didn't, I've never seen him three putt as much as he did. And I just didn't, even if never seen him three putt as much as he did and I just didn't, even if you see that perfect line on that, you can't be positive how your ball is going to roll. And you know, one bounce early in the roll offline could drive it a foot offline.

I mean, some of the putts that we're missing were missing so badly that I've never not seen professionals miss that badly on greens that aren't slope that much. So I didn't think he was going to make it. And the pup wasn't really even that close. And after seeing it four times, yeah, there's nerves factored in there. But when do we see Jordan's beat miss a putt, you know, by eight inches, there's only about 12, 13 foot putt that didn't break that much, am I right? I mean, I couldn't see, I don't even know if I've ever seen a video angle that to be honest with you. I just, I was standing up there and I was going, this guy is going to bury this for three,

and the stands are going to fall down. I mean, it's how crazy people are going. I was hoping he would. I really wanted to, because if nothing else, it forced, it was going to force Dustin to also make three, and it could you imagine people going equally able to get into a USO playoff. Oh man that's the thing. It was it wasn't awesome awesome finish but just to have it end on the missed putt just felt terrible. If it was the other way around we wouldn't be talking that it'd be like Stuart Sinks putt basically back in 2001. You know he missed like he missed the tap and that would have got him in the playoff

You know, he missed the tap and it would have got him in the playoff. It would have kind of been more of an afterthought than it would be, you know, to end on that exact moment. I mean, like, everyone was just in shock. Did he look like an affected DJ, though? I mean, was he even like aware of what happened? I was sick to my stomach. I hated it. I hated everything about it.

It was, I was walked down. So our golf course was down, a T at 18, and I was, I was on the left side of the green, and I was walking down the fair with my hands on my head. Like I was like, I cannot believe I just saw that, because so the thing, we weren't going to do our featured whole coverage wasn't going to go into Monday because obviously we would have only had one group. So I was going to walk 18 holes with Jordan's feet and Dustin Johnson playing on the play.

I was like, this is going to be the most awesome day of work. And I was like, this is going to be so great and he hit it up there. And I was like, okay, if he makes this evil play, it's going to be one of the greatest finishes ever in a US open. And it's going to be one of the most clutch holes ever. If you think about really in the major championship history, I mean, it's going to be one of the greatest finishes ever at a US Open. And it's going to be one of the most clutch holes ever. If you think about really in the major championship history, I mean, it's funny. We made fun of Sean McEill, but that shot is up there.

You know, never happened. Never happened. No, that never happened. You know, but it was, it would have been a lot of fun. But yeah, I mean, you know, that was two weeks ago. We are obviously now another tournament in. Your favorite player won, but I was going to ask, I wanted to ask you this because I saw this this morning.

Oh, it's for Tiger Woods to make the cut this week or even. He won't make the cut. You have to give the money if you, if you can gamble on sports. 120, right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't talk about Tiger Munch because I mean, there's so much more stuff going on. But I am interested in the fact that, like, just like, I never thought I'd see him possibly

really seriously hang him up, and I just read that out on Iverson Book, and I've just been kind of like looking up some players that when they retired when they decided to walk away and I just read this great article about Brian Phillips, a grant land about Roger Federer, and you really wonder like it's unprecedented for a golfer to just piece out, but like is it crazy to think you know? To be honest I mean I've actually thought the same exact thing. I don't think he would. I mean, I think maybe you and I have even talked about this

before, that golfers careers go on forever basically, as long as you want them to. In this era, especially with the technology, I mean, you can just hear you just called the US senior open. I mean, you can play into your 60s if you want. So I mean, think about Tiger playing golf in the year 2035.

I doubt he plays much on the senior tour, obviously. But what would he gain by hanging it up? I mean, like, would he be going down in sports history, almost as like a quitter? Like, no one really retires from golf at the age of 39 and I mean you people are tending to forget he was in the third to last group of the masters like three months ago Like two months ago like right he's not I mean yeah, I was the master's and he always plays about there but I mean like it's not he's not totally done. Is he, I mean, like, he's making swing changes.

I thought in 2011, and in 2012, I thought he was done. And I made that mistake, and he won three times in 12, and five times in 2013, it's like, I don't know. I just refused to ever fully write him off. I just, obviously what we're seeing is disgusting, and I don't think he's gonna make the cut this week and I it is disgusting. I mean it's like he topped a three wood. He topped just terrible. I mean like this is tiger woods. You can't be topping three woods and I don't know what it is. I don't want to hear what people think it is. I really

really don't. I think I've even filtered my Twitter feed to, so it crosses out any tweets that say, Tiger Woods needs to or anything like that. I don't want your take on that. I don't really care what he, nobody knows what he needs to do. So I don't know. I agree. There's so much more exciting stuff going on. I like how Fox handled it actually on Friday. They didn't show much of his shots at all. They basically did, you know, death by a thousand knives, I don't know what the actual phrase is, but they basically showed every shot from Thursday.

And I just went to bed. I mean, it was like 3 a.m. my time. I was like, I'm not staying up to watch Tiger shoot 90 and he ended up shooting 80s, so good for him. But I mean, he faded into the background. It's just the way I think it should be. I think he should be shown on TV from time to time and should not be the focus of broadcast anymore.

I mean, he's not even close to the biggest story in golf right now. Yeah, no, I agree. I just, I never, I was, I'm the biggest tiger to fender in the sense of exactly what you said. I mean, in 2010, at Firestone, he finished, I think he finished last, or second to last, he shot a million.

And I actually looked at articles on, at the end of that, about two weeks ago, I looked up articles, people wrote. And there were articles basically saying, is he done or he's done or whatever. And like you said, he won eight times in two years. It's just, I'm not sure I've ever seen a guy look more lost on the golf course,

which is just crazy to think. But I mean, it's, and you know what's weird? He actually looks like he's in a good mood, like between shots and stuff, you know? Like, he looks like kind of Joe, he'll be like walking around kind of smiling. He doesn't like, it's super mad anymore like he used to. It's almost kind of like he's like,

I don't got it right now, so whatever. And I mean, anyway, we don't want to focus too much time on obviously Tiger Woods, but I just, it's just so weird to think where we're at now and to think that, and my question is, you know, always when's the balance back gonna happen? And like, I, like, I want you to stand over a couple of shots before we even took it back on the first

bullet chambers. I think it was on Thursday. It just, he was standing over the ball and I was like, what is he doing? Like, he was so close to the ball and his hands were like so, it was just, it was so gross looking. And then he hit it way right in the hay. And I was like, stop doing that. What are you doing? Just make a normal athletic move. I don't know. It's just funny. I mean, like you said, everybody's got their point, but it was just, it's just been weird. It's been a weird, weird year in that sense. And I don't know, there's a lot more stuff going on and there's a lot of stuff to take from Chambers Bay. And we got Greenbar this week, but I think most focus is probably headed to the old course. Yeah, no, I'm pretty honed in on that actually as well.

I mean, it's kind of the time of year where I did that on summertime. I just don't watch as much golf, to be honest. And once the majors are going, I feel like I spend so much energy getting into the majors and getting pumped for them that, like, I'm sorry if I just don't get that hyped for the Greenbrier Classic this weekend. I mean, it's summertime, it's out and enjoying the nice weather, so I'm in full British Open mode as it is, but I think you're on the same side as me as this. It's totally cool to call it the British Open, right? Totally. I wrote a thing, I wrote a thing when I think it was like CBS days or something and I wrote something basically saying listen, I get if

you're gonna be annoyed at it, that's fine. I mean I hate the people on Twitter that are like every time you write it they go it's the Open Jam and Chip. Hey I get it. It is the Open Jam and Chip. Everywhere else but the America and here y'all and they call it the US Masters and the US PGS. And you're mean yelling about it. It is the Open GMM chip. Everywhere else with the America. And here y'all, and they call it the US Masters and the USPGS. And you'll hear me yelling about it. I get it. I just for for contextual reasons. We call it the British Open. And that's just what I say. So if you want to yell at me, that's fine. I want to just get, you know what? I think I'm going to start an email and it'll be like Shane Bacon Open complaints at gmail.com and then you can just send all your complaints there and at least have a place where everybody can

feel like they can vent to me because I'm not trying to be disrespectful. It's just what they say here. That's just what we do. Yeah, that's how we identify the golf tournament. I'm sorry. It wasn't you that told me like even during the the ceremony or something last year the director. I'm sorry, I don't know his name. Whoever was presenting the trophy even said British Open. Yeah, I mean, it's, come on now, stop yelling at us. This isn't, this isn't that big of a deal. I mean, unless like your great, great grandfather was like old Tom Morris or something, like, I don't think there's a reason for you to get that mad about it.

I don't get that mad about anything. Anything, that's what I was going to say is, how good is your life have to be that that's what you get upset about? Like that, you know what, this is my final stand. I'm not gonna let this go on anymore. I'm not gonna let this guy call it the British Open. How many drafts of tweets do you think these people go through before they finally send the one

where they're like, hey, mate, it's the open. Like, all right, gotcha, Nailwood, thank you. All right, love that. What's the British open? That's what that one's the open. Like, all right, gotcha. Nailed it. Thank you. All right, love that. What's the British open? That's what that one's my favorite. Oh, that's not just the word. But so you're just going to say, Anders, no, OK. So listen to this.

And I'm going to write this. I'm going to write in a little column about this. But I want to just bring it up with you. So I love saying, and obviously, I mean, it's like one of my favorites, probably in my favorite place in the entire world. But I was thinking about it. So we haven't had a good British open ad St. Andrews since 1995, right? Yeah, yep. I mean, oh, five was good until the back nine though, wasn't it?

I don't remember. I didn't didn't do all the hit the eject button like on 17 and but wasn't it kind of close leading up to that? Hey, he got okay, so in that was in No, that was in 2000 was deval right? Yeah, that makes more sense Yeah 2000 was deval and he got within four or something on Nine he shot 32 on the front I believe and he got within like three or four And then he made a double on 12, maybe. I think he might have bogeyed 11 and double 12 if my memory serves you, right?

And I think that was it. And in 2005, Tiger just beat everybody. I think Monty finished second. And then in 10, obviously, it was days in rolled, played like a different golf course that week. I mean, I'm pretty sure they've all been by at least five shots. 95, of course, was daily in the in roca playoff, which was like, I mean, if Twitter was around in to the 1995 with John daily, first of all, I mean, he would have like taken Twitter restore, but roca chunking that shot and then making it in the Valley of sin. We would have lost our mind Yeah, it would have been a collective. There's there's nothing else we can do. I don't even want to watch the playoff

So you're right to talk you're one by five over Monty in 05 and then 2000 was by eight over Thomas Bjorn and Ernie else and Duval was only six shots back going into the final round and i'm just looking to pick a pdf he didn't finish within eleven shots of tiger so yeah he got he got ejected on the back nine uh... i think you made eight on seventeen or something like that we're right so we haven't had a good open since nineteen ninety five at saint andrews so

i mean i picture saint andrews as uh... they don't make a lot of modifications to this golf course, right? I mean, there's not been many changes in the last 15 years extending T-boxes, are am I completely wrong there? No, no, no, they've added T-boxes, but yeah, that's about it. Just because they had the length of it. I mean, they had, they literally have one T box on one of the other courses now on the part five on the back. Okay. But yeah, it's, but okay, so I think we have to pray for wind because I think there's been such mild conditions granted Friday afternoon in 2010 was when it blew really hard and Rory shot 80.

But if we get to have some wind throughout the week, I think that'll tighten the leaderboard a little bit and that makes it not where some guy clicking and run away with it. But I mean last 2010 it played at 7300 yards. I mean if that's the case these guys are gonna route this golf course aren't they? I mean without win yeah I mean without win without win it's gonna be double digits under par every time it's here, in my opinion. Okay. Yeah, I can't get the image of Rory winning this by like six out of my head. I don't know why I totally agree with you. I absolutely 100% agree with you. That makes me nervous because that probably won't happen then if everyone's if we're all if we're this far in

on the guy, but I mean, I don't know, this feels like a tournament that you can predict. I don't know why I want to say that. I feel like speed is gonna be close, but I feel like Rory is going to be the guy. I think speed's top 10s, but Rory wins this thing. But before the season, I picked Bubba to win. And I mean like, yeah, how did you, did you have to take like some, I mean, you personally, when you write those things out like, is it like, what is it like for you? Is it like, are your hands shaking as you're typing? Well, I think the way you can you, can you walk us through that, that entire moment when you, when you write that down? At the time, I mean, yeah, the second half of 2014 was awesome but like I wasn't

like used to getting what I want like I have for the first half of this year. I mean speed is one two majors. It broke's cap goes one but I mean it's been the gift that keeps on giving this season. So looking back I guess I shouldn't have been like so pessimistic into thinking that something terrible would happen but I think when I wrote it I said I mean Bubba already desecrated the grounds of Augusta National. It probably just makes sense that he'll just go do the same with the home of golf this summer. But I don't know.

I feel, I, him winning last week obviously doesn't, doesn't help my, my fear, I guess, of him winning. And I just picture him being able to vomit all over that place, drive greens. And I I mean I know he hasn't had a lot of success in either the US open or the British but I mean I'm not I am like basically officially changing my pick though to Rory big shocker I'm picking the the guy favorite to win the tournament but yeah exactly I'm out on that no way enough limb so it's funny I had a I had a I chatted with Bubba a few years back I think maybe now three four years ago I got a chance to had a, I chatted with Bubba a few years back. I think maybe now three, four years ago. I got a chance to sit with him on any one-on-one interview. Is that a name drop or not?

Is that a moment drop? No, I mean, you're in the business. Like that's just like, that should be a part of your job. Okay, if I was dropping that, that'd be a name drop. Let me say it, hold on, let me try to do again, and I'm going to make it sound way cooler. Oh, here we go. A few years ago, I was in a part of my job. I got to spend a moment with double odds. Just me and him.

Anyway, I was talking to him. And I mentioned that I thought he had a great chance this year at the British Open to win. I said, at the time, he'd only won one Masters, and I was talking to him about which major he thinks he would win besides Augusta, and I don't really know if he ever gave me a real straight answer, but I said, because I think you've got a really good chance in 2015 at the British Open, and he really perked up, and he kind of looked up at me, and he was a little bit surprised. And so, you know, I mean, for those that don't know, I've cadded over there years ago.

And it's a place where you can miss it left all day, but you can't miss it right. And Baba is the guy that never misses it right. Obviously, it's that they all had cut for a lefty. So, and as you mentioned, St. Andrews is the place you can overpower. So St. Andrews is the place that you can drive six so say the place that you know you can drive six seven greens I mean you really can't so You know for guy like Baba. He's in a driver all day and The thing that Baba has that people never give him credit for and this is this is like going to be the only time on your

Podcast people ever praise him for anything The guys the guy short game is like so amazing. I mean, his imagination is up around the greens. And that's something else you gotta do. So I don't think it's crazy to have him as a favorite. I like, obviously, I like who stays in and I like Adam Scott. I think Adam Scott's gonna have a really good chance to. God, I just got so, I mean, yeah, I don't know. We're just, we're to say this right after we just talk about Bumma,

but I just got so excited for the British open. You just mentioning Adam Scott and Nuste getting involved. I mean, I just, I can't believe the state of the game that we're currently in. I really can't. I mean, it is bananas. It's how good it is. It really is. I feel like the golf fans can really appreciate it. I feel like the general public's not really getting excited about it. Obviously, there's always going to be that contention of people that only tune in with that one guys in contention. But I mean, like, yeah, Speed has been on the cover of Sports All Shred twice for this year for each was major.

But I get mad. And again, I live overseas and they don't really follow golf as much in Holland as they do in the US, I think. But way too often I'm having to describe to people, even my American friends over here, who Jordan's beef is, and I feel like people should be taking more notice outside. You're right, I'm inside the gulf, the bubble,

and I spend way too much of my time talking about, writing about making Patrick Reed jokes and whatnot, but I feel like it should be a bigger national story, don't you? I mean, Lydia Coe and him. Lydia Coe should be in the norma story to like nobody talks about this stuff this is crazy to two best golfers in the world right now

are eighteen and twenty one and uh... and we're not talking about this like that's crazy the two best golfers it in the world right now are the same age combined that's what's yet mean, that's crazy.

I mean, yeah, I'm with you. I mean, already said it. You know what else is funny? So you mentioned Sports Illustrated cover, okay? And I mean, I've mentioned it, you know, he's been on two. It's kind of funny that like we still measure like importance of a athlete on like the sports magazine. Like nobody talks about magazines anymore, except for Sports Illustrated.

Like Kudos is Sports Illustrated for continuing to make themselves relevant in a sense of like, their cover being a big deal. You know, because no other magazine really matters. I mean, nobody's like, you were on the cover of a vote. I don't know, maybe to feel talk about that. But like, I mean, I just think it's crazy that when speech on the cover sports

was distributed, it's a big deal in a sports world. Yeah, I mean, I feel like people are always tweeting the sports I'll show you a cover, you know? I mean, like, that is still a big thing, but I don't think I necessarily means that people are going out and buying magazines or like, or that that is still the biggest story, you know? I think we still kind of see, that's kind of like the barometer of what's the biggest sports story this week, or, you know, this, we still kind of see that's kind of like the barometer of what's the biggest sports story this week or you know This of this month or whatnot It's interesting to see and we as golf fans pay attention to when there's a golfer on the cover like we feel like

Yes, we've done it like we've talked about this enough. Finally the public is taking notice, but I I felt like it was great for the US open to be in prime time on the East Coast. Ratings were better than the East Coast, the East Coast, the US Open's. It was terrible to watch from your PN standpoint. Sun was coming up when DJ missed that. But I don't know. I just feel like, the fact, I mean, you mentioned the name Adam Skye. It's a guy I haven't even thought of this year. He's basically been non-existent except for the 64-year shot Sunday, the US Open.

But I mean, can we talk about the fact that Louis Ustazen is three shots away from having three of the four legs of the Grand Slam? Yeah, I mean, the guy is the guy's in monster when he wants to play well, you know? I mean, it's when he gets to go and what he did, what he did over the final 54 holes has not been talked about enough. It really has it. Like, I mean, that is crazy how he played that golf course. And really, you know,

I mentioned this, he shot 77 the opening round, but he made three bogies early on Sunday. If you didn't do that, he wins, well, you know, I mean, he made three straight bogies on Sunday. Yeah, a crazy, crazy, crazy dude. It's, and you and I know, I mean, you make three straight bogies on Sunday. Yeah, a crazy, crazy, crazy dude. It's a, and you and I know, I mean, we talk about golf swing and how awesome it is and stuff like that. And I mean, it's like Matt Suyama level of how much I celebrate when he comes to make that move. What he's really swinging, you know, it's like, this is so crazy. And you said, Adam Scott, this is what his finishes have been in the British Open the last three years. Second tie for third tie for fifth. So, and he has Steve Williams on the back. So I mean,

he's gonna have to have to, you have to put him as a factor, right? Yeah, I mean do, do, you, you know better than I would. Old-course greens. Would you say they're more, you need to know how they break? Is it kind of like a gust of like experience pays off there? Or is it more of a course where the greens are kind of a neutralizing factor and they're not a lot to them. No, I mean, I don't, I don't, I think that they have enough subtle breaks to where obviously knowledge helps, but I don't think it's anything close to having to have an experience. I mean, John Daly won there. He had a charter to blow up.

Like, you know, I mean, the guy that can probably was up there going, and we slept, and he hit it, you know, I mean, it's like, I mean, you, I think anybody can kind of win there, win there on. I will say, I wonder how much, have you ever messed around like a long putter, or belly putter, or anything like that? Yeah, a little bit, like a, yeah, I have. I can't figure it out, I don't get it at all.

But don't you feel like lag putting is tougher with that than putting short? I mean, I feel like putting short is why you use that because it's a lot easier to keep kind of a pendulum stable move. Yeah, I see what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah, and using a long clutter when you're having 80, 90, 100 footputs, to me might be tougher than somebody say, like, where your speed through just uses the regular. And so like, maybe that's a little bit of a reason when these greens are so massive, but I don't know.

I think Adam is obviously coming to come in with some confidence and we'll obviously have a chance. It's still crazy to think you lost that British over with four straight bogus. Oh, of course. There's some real big melodons in golf and you just kind of forget about them. Yeah, that one was just like a slow painful death rather

than like, you know, the big mess on on on on 18 for for for DJ, but like, all right. So let's let's think this, I want to see, I want to hear your take also on what you think, how, how San Andreas matches up for speed. I'm kind of of the opinion that like, I don't really think the course matters too much right now to me. I mean, like, somewhere like sawgrass, it's kind of really a target golf, is what kind of what I would call that more. I don't really think the course matters too much right now to me. I mean, like, somewhere like Sawgrass, it's kind of really a target golf. There's kind of what I would call that more.

I wouldn't put spieth right near the top of guys that should play well there, but I feel like on a course that doesn't punish you too badly off the tee. You can correct me if I'm wrong by saying that. I feel like you can spray it a little bit at St Andrews. And it gives spieth, it gives speed opportunities to miss. And I don't know. I don't really know what I'm getting at other than I feel like. It's a course that doesn't really suit him particularly well,

but is not a bad course for him at all. Yeah, I don't think it's a bad course for him. I mean, you can spray it for sure. I mean, you just have to miss it in the right spots. And obviously, he'll have all that chorded out and stuff like that. I feel like him you can spray it for sure. I mean, you can, you just have to miss it in the right spots and obviously he'll have all that charted out and stuff like that. I mean, I feel like I feel like him and Michael got it so well. I've been right now in the sense of what they do preparation wise that he'll know where to go, where to hit it, all that stuff. You know what I think suits his game

is how confident he is with the putter from off the green and how often he'll pull it and use it. That'll be a weapon he can use at St. Andrews, I think. It'll be something he does a lot. So I think in that sense, around the greens, he'll be as good, obviously, I mean, he's the best putter in the world right now, but I think around the greens, he'll be able to pull that putter out from a lot of places where maybe some players are feeling comfortable

when you won't. And I'm with you. I think he could play any golf course right now and win. I mean, I just, I think you, that's how he's playing. One thing I find funny is this big obsession with, should he play the John Deere? Yeah. I'm like, dude, the guy's gonna fly private,

and it's like six hours. I mean, it's like, Lefarran James and those guys would fly six hours to, and then have to play basketball the next day, and the NBA finals. I mean, I just don't think that's even an issue at all. He's gonna sleep on the flight. I mean, you know, it's, should he play in the Scottish? I mean, I mean, if he could, but, you know, I think it's cool that he honors the fact that it's a place that he won at, and I think any prep is good prep, you know.

Yeah, I mean, I actually, you know, this is kind of the story that I would typically roll my eyes at, you know, over-analys the story that I would typically roll my eyes at, you know, over-analysation by the golf media of the fact that he's playing the John Deere. I can kind of sympathize with it, I understand where that is coming from. Just because I'm, you know, I've only made, I've made a few transatlantic flights

in the last year, and the jet lag has really killed me. Granted, I'm not 21 and I'm not a professional athlete, so it's a little different scenario. But I can understand wanting to get somewhere and getting used to a new schedule, especially when I come back east and get on the European schedule. It's difficult.

It's just hard to get to really beat the jet lag. And what I always do is just, because I usually do a red eye back from the US to answer them and I get in at 7 a.m. and my instinct is to just want to go to bed, but I just ask as long as I can through the day and just try to beat it in one day. I don't think you have that option. You can't go, yeah, you can sleep on the flight, but as soon as you land, you're still off by seven hours because he's coming from the central time zone. Oh, no, I guess it's six because you're sleep on the flight, but as soon as you land, you're still off by seven hours, because he's coming from the central time zone.

Oh, no, I guess it's six, because you're only going to Scotland, but I don't know. I feel like you would want to make sure your body is on a full cycle to start that week. I know he's not the only one playing the John Deere, but there's a reason the John Deere doesn't get a great feel there. There's a reason, you know, Phil is not playing the John Deere

classic. And I don't know. I do respect the design in the commitment, but at the same time, I don't think the results of the first two majors should change his approach. I mean, I think in his mind, he should be going for whatever approach is best for him to do well to bridge open. But I don't, I, I, it's up to him to make a schedule, obviously, but if it was me and I was his advisor, I would say say let's get over to Scotland early.

Well, I mean, I guess, you know, I think you make good points on that. And I guess the one thing you could say is you call the the tournament coordinator John DeGro, or you know what, take a page out in the newspaper and you say you write this thing and you go listen. I will play the John DeGro every year, you know, when I can. But there's a chance for me right now to make history. There's a chance for me to go over and win the third straight leg of the Grand Slam, something that has never happened in the modern era of golf as somebody won the Grand Slam.

So I hope you guys can understand and respect my decision to get over there early. And I will be there in 2016 and I will be there, you know, in signing autographs and all that stuff. Like maybe if you just kind of like make it up going to explain to the people the chance of history you have, then maybe that would make sense.

Because everybody loves that kind of stuff. You know, you take those full newspaper ads out when you leave talent, you know, football players leave towns and payins love that kind of stuff and they always put it on dead spend and everything like that. So I don't know, Maybe if you did that it would They would help but yeah, I mean I get you're actually I I

Think it's ridiculous, but you've made a good enough point to where I least at least can understand it so way ago Yeah, no, no, that's that's that's fair Yeah, you're right if you if you murder someone you can basically take a full-page on the newspaper It's all forgiven. It's all forgiven. But I mean I feel like speed does yeah he's committed to the tournament but at the same time he's too nice. You really don't owe anyone anything. You don't. I mean like you're trying to make history. Yeah. You really are like you're trying to make history that's never been done. And I mean, you know, it's just, yeah, I mean, it's, it would be, yeah, it would be beneficial then

to be completely ready for any other side, totally. Plus, you know, you want to ask, and I don't know the answer to this, how many times has he played any of yours? I mean, really think about it. I mean, has he played it two times? I mean, I don't know. No, I don't.

Probably, probably, maybe. I don't know. Maybe you should give him some pointers on it. I think you've been around there a lot of times it is. I'll go over. You know what? I'm gonna go We're bored. I think I did a really good job. You All right, I'm gonna give you a really random trivia question and then we're gonna go to a couple Twitter questions and then we're gonna let you go I if I will give you I will personally pay for you to come over to the British Open If you can name the only two Americans that finished in the top ten in the two thousand ten British open at St. Andrews they both finished tied for seven ten shots behind Louis used Hazon

and two only two Americans two Americans finished inside the top ten in two thousand ten i mean they have to be completely random if you're doing this i mean they're pretty random. Oh. It's just, I want to highlight how far golf has come in the last five years. Okay. Um, Chad Campbell. Okay.

And Lucas Glover. No and no, but good, good, a lot, you know, those are guesses along the same category guys that I was going for. But Sean O'Hare and Nick Watney, both tied for seven that minus six. Wait till you get this though. Tied for 11th, Jeff Overton, tied for 14th, Ricky Fowler, also tied for 14th Tom layman I mean that you good layman, you know, it's funny as I was thinking Ricky Fowler's name before whatever reason I I for whatever reason I mean I wouldn't guess Nick Watton in channel air and a billion guesses I I forgot Nick Watton was tied for the leader leading it with lean straights. Yeah, no, he chucked like 82 or something

Sundown. Yeah, yeah He went he headed into the something sundown. Yeah. Yeah, he went, he hit it into the lake there, which is not easy to do. The whole course is set on the lake, but that lake does not come into play. I think number seven, he hit it into the lake at Whistling, but we'll get into that in the PGA championship. That's right. Maybe you speak winds, we'll have a, we'll have a, every day we'll do a different podcast about that. But, uh, Fowler shot seventy nine the opening day there didn't finish sixty seven seventy one sixty seven to finish that might as for it's interesting

re-match was finished third and shot eighty and the same yeah my god is insane yeah he's gonna win we've established that alright let's go to some twitter questions adam sarson wants to know why you weren't drawing any drawings for the u.s. Open this year on Twitter like you were for the Masters. Well I had a different position this year and I was broadcasting like nine hours a day and I didn't bring my drawing pins. So I'm actually curious of this is how hard is it? What were your shifts first of all? Because you weren't on straight for nine hours, were you? I mean, I was on for the better part. So we had two minute commercial breaks, I think two or three times an hour. So if you had to go

to the restroom, you could run out really quick and go. I had a guy, we had a couple guys that could fill for us if we needed like a lunch break. So the first day I only took one break. So I probably did it for eight and a half hours of the nine hours. Then the other three days I had two breaks. So we're about 30 minutes each. But I mean, yeah, I mean, you were, it was funny. I'd finish up. My girlfriend was out in Seattle for the last three or four days.

And we went the dinner on Friday and she was like tell me about your day, and I was like no, you tell me about your day The last thing I want to do is talk about anything right now You're so tired. You know you've been because I mean, you have to be on and be on and be talking You know, it's just it's a lot, but it's you the first day you're so amped up, jazzed up, and stuff. It was like 4 or 5 pm, and I didn't even realize it. You don't even realize what's going on. How hard is it to talk about golf for that long without repeating yourself?

You were broadcasting two holes, 12 and 15, 12 is a dribble, par 4, 15 was an interesting part. you were broadcasting two holes, 12 and 15, 12 is a drive-up part four, 15 was an interesting part three. How is it easier you think to do like two holes and have every group come through twice, or is it easier like for the PGA tour feature groups, you know, to do, you know, to follow one group around for an entire day? What would you think is easier? Well, I can tell you that both because I did featured group at the senior that you a senior open. Yeah, I was totally tuned to that. You're right. Sorry. I forgot. Trust me. It's totally understandable. I think feature group was tougher because you have to talk about those people the whole time. Right. The nice, the nice thing. Okay. So obviously what's changing for both things in feature poll, you're getting the same hold. That's your constant.

But you're getting different players all day long. Feature group, the constant as the players and it's changing as the holds. How much excitement can you have about talking about the hole? I mean obviously you said the hole up. You talked about what it is. You can talk about what the stroke average is. But those things aren't necessarily nearly as fun and exciting and talk to you is, you know, if you have Phil come through, then who stays and then Adam Scott, then Justin Rose, you know, those guys all coming through allow you a lot more conversation. So to me, it was a lot easier to fill time doing featured holes. That being said, if you're doing featured groups, you're on for four and a half hours, five hours maybe, you know, for featured holes, you're on the entire from start to finish. So it's a longer ship for feature holds, but I thought it was easier to talk about the holds because you've got different players changing. Yeah, I figured that as much, but at the same time, I just, it's got to be so hard to not go do the thing that you and I like to make fun of. It's point to the one thing that all broadcasters point out about a certain player.

Like when Eric Compton comes through, you have to mention that he's a two-time heart transplant. You know what? I was, I got to say this. I don't get proud of myself very much. And I'm pretty self-deprecating for in the band pretty much the whole part. But I made it a point and I told you that's even before all this went down, is one of my goals and all of the broadcasters stuff was to not just say the stuff that everybody's heard all the time

and I made it a point. A number one problem, what do you mind not to do that? And I will say I avoided it at all costs. I think the only one I did was Robert Dameron is friends with Sam Saunders. I mean, he's played a lot of golf with him. He knows Donald Palmer well. And so, of course, mentioning Donald, along with Sam Saunders, allowed my co-host basically Robert Dameron to elaborate on Sam Saunders career and him growing up and stuff like that. But I really, really tried not to do that stuff

and thought I was okay at it, it would have nothing else. No mention of the slim down Jason Duffner, or... I didn't talk about his weight loss. I didn't talk about how to do athletic dust and Johnson was I didn't say he could literally jump over the sound or anything like that I you know, I just there's so many more things, you know, and so I mean that was that was kind of my hope and goal It was to at least if nothing else folks on that stuff Plus you know during us open we could really trying to talk about The US open, you know, so I mean there's there's not a there's not totally worth it for me to you know, during US Open, we could really try to talk about the US Open.

You know, swimming, there's not totally worth it for me to, you know, spend all the time talking about what the guy did five years ago, or do you think that? Did you know DJ can dunk a basketball, though? You know what, I heard that. I'm going to confirm it. I'm going to confirm it with Adidas and see if that's true. Because I feel like you could have mentioned that on the broadcast then because It probably was it probably could have been thrown in there back nine on Sunday. I mean that guy is an athlete. I'm telling you what

Wink span Explosiveness at the point of attack you could have worked that in there If he had only he could have tried to dunk me. You know, yeah All right last question Ryan Clark is asking I think it's a kind of a good one All right, last question. Ryan Clark is asking. I think it's kind of a good one. Better chance of this of happening. Speed completes the grand slam or Big Cat gets a W in any PGA event this season. Oh my goodness. I mean, that's a good question. I got to go tiger, I think. I think so too. Yeah. I think, y'all, it's a speed. You know, I think the hardest thing would be to win three in a row, of course,

because he has to win the third straight. I think whistling straights is the place that he can't win. I mean, not, not can win, but I think that'll be a tougher win for speed. Yeah, God, that's gonna be long, isn't it? I mean, I played there two, three years ago, and it was like 7800 yards or something like that. Yeah, it is forever. It was, and we played the tips, and we didn't know that it was 7800 yards. We thought it was 72. And oh my God, it didn't beat me up. I literally did not know it. I was covered on every hole.

Yeah, until after the 18th hole, I'm hit three iron into 18. It's like the fourth part four over 500 yards. And I asked my caddy, I was like, I was like, is this really only 7,200 yards? He looked at me, he's like, no, it's 78. He's like, you haven't been noticing that there's been no other divots on the back

to ease where you've been playing. I was like, really? He's like, yeah, no, I've never seen anyone play this all the way back. You really thanks, buddy. I appreciate it. No, I mean, I shot 90, so I'm pretty sure he was like really, really wondering what's the why I was playing all the way back. And if I didn't know that, I don't think I would have. You screwed it up a bit. I know, that's a good question. And you're St. Tyre as well? And if I didn't know that I don't think I would have but I think so but I'm looking at the schedule remaining events and I mean two of his starts remaining are gonna be majors and he's gonna play Firestone He's gonna play this week at Greenbrier. What else is there? What am I missing? His event DC he's not gonna make the playoffs and what some crazy happens so

those are out his event in DC I don't even know when that is now I think that's in between is that is that after the next weekend yeah it's no next weekend's John Deere right we're really that close to the British already yeah we're 16 days from the first round okay yeah I'm an idiot I'm yeah I'm going to the British open and I don't even know this. Okay. Yeah, we out. I don't know when, when his event is. Maybe that's right after the British, but I mean, there's not a lot of tournaments left for him to play in, but, and so what are the, what are the, they, 538 is saying the odds of speed-winning are 1%. So we say there's a better than

1% chance to tag your wins at tournament this year. I guess maybe something clicks, he's got a firestone. I mean, I guess you put it, you put's a better than one percent chance that tiger wins the tournament this year I guess maybe something clicks he's got firestone I mean I guess you put it a better one percent that he wins there yeah so is this Canadian open after the open and then the quick and loans national so that's what and that's that's the end of his and then what one week break now then the next week is bridge stone and then pj then he's done other than other than the president's cup because he's surely going to be on that team oh man who who's who's the captain for that

isn't couples i just assumed it was couples no it's not um... uh... j-hawks that actually that does sound right it's j-hawks is there going to be one single person that watches the president's cut this year? And it is just such a rough, rough thing. And it's in Korea, right?

Yeah, it's in Korea. What time zone does that even benefit? I guess, me better than you. I don't know. I don't know. I just, I remember staying up for that Rory Tiger battle in China one time and I think it was on like three or four in the morning in Arizona. So I guess maybe it'd be six a.m. here.

Yeah, so it's 11, it's 438 right now in Holland. It's 1038 for you in the East Coast. It's 1138 in South Korea right now. So it's 11 hour, you know, it's 13 hours ahead for you, and seven hours ahead for me. Yeah. And I guess that's kinda like being the British open being on in the US for me.

So it'd be better for me than it would be for you, I think. But you'll have to watch it, you'll have to watch it. You'll let me know I go. Yeah. I'm not volunteering for that at all. So, all right, if we're talking about the 2015 President's Cup, then that is officially a wrap. We have covered absolutely. I think so. I think that all. So, all right, if we're talking about the 2015 President's Cup, then that is officially a wrap we have covered absolutely.

I think that's when you say goodbye. Oh, is Tiger gonna be a cappons pick for the 2015 President's Cup? Tune in next time on the Nutlaiga Podcast. That's way till that debate goes around. All right, Mr. Shade Bacon, thank you very much for joining us as well. We will do this again probably around PGA Championship time and follow Shane on Twitter. You're probably doing that at Shane Bacon. What's coming up next for you on with Fox?

I actually have a couple two or three weeks off. I'm going to be on a vacation during British week, but my dad's going to be with me as well. So we're going to be getting up early and watching the British from Alabama. So, Alabama, Robert Trein Jones Golf Trail? Nothing much happened. I think for me, work wise, too. PGA, I'll just be writing and all that stuff on FoxFords.com. You hitting up the Robert Trein Jones Golf Trail down there? Oh, you know what? I don't know where we're going to play. We'll be down there. I think

there's a course ride by our little house. We're not on the ocean. I think we're probably just going to bump over there and play. But I'm playing some golf this weekend. I hadn't taken my sticks out in a few weeks, so I'm pretty excited about that. And then just kind of winding down from the two weeks on the road. Actually, and one thing that is coming up, I'm going to be part of Calorie Live. I'm going to be a guest of Calorie Live next week. Something to be seen to you for that for a day, but so if you haven't checked that Calorie Live, make sure you check that out and make sure you look forward next week when I pop up on their little channel.

Sweet, we'll do, man. Thank you as always, my friend, and we will do this again soon. Be the right club today! That's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! Expect anything different? Better than most!