No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 216: PGA Championship Recap

Episode Date: May 20, 2019

Brooks Koepka wins his fourth major and his second PGA Championship, and we discuss what this means, how many majors we're giving Brooks, you can possibly compare him to, and everything else from the ...last week. We also talk about the identity of the PGA Championship, our favorite holes to watch this week, Blimptracer, and a lot more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah. That's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Expect anything different. Better than most! Expect anything different! Ladies and gentlemen welcome back to the No-Lang Up Podcast. Brooks Keppka, our golfing overlord, has won the PGA championship.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Fourth major title in his last eight starts. Two players alive have more majors. Two players that are currently active have more majors. Tough to have. That's so disrespectful that are currently active, have more majors, the two players have got. That's so disrespectful. Well, worries, Dad. So he doesn't count. But we got, we got a really exciting Sunday.
Starting point is 00:00:53 That was a fun Sunday. That was as good as it could have been, I think. We were very worried that it was gonna be a runaway or a snooze fest or somewhere in between, which would have been an extra snooze fest. And yeah, that was, Brooks kind of delivered in a fun way. So that was good. It got interesting.
Starting point is 00:01:08 The weather was brutal. Dustin played well. There's a lot of good stuff going on. I think we need to introduce ourselves first, right? Sure, let's go. People like that. I was very fired up. Sorry, I'm DJ.
Starting point is 00:01:19 I'm Randy. Randy's back here at the Kille House. After an afternoon, convincing around Jacksonville Beach, Neptune Beach. And Tron is back from playing National Golf Lings with the PGA America, exactly. I listen guys, I'm just trying to keep up our networking around the golf space. Very cool. Somebody's got to do it. These guys are back here editing straps as you're going to be fanning around New York. No respect for us visiting the club for us.
Starting point is 00:01:45 So I think we kind of ranked this internally when we were starting the day was like, all right, here's what we want to see. Brooks fall back to the field. His rank number one, that would be most exciting. Two was just run away and win about like 15. Like do something truly historic. And the worst thing that could happen was just like linger
Starting point is 00:02:00 at like a seven shot lead. And it lingered like a seven shot lead for like half the day. And it looked like it was over. Everyone was kind of, the Vince Carter gifs came out really early. Well, they came out on Thursday. They did. And I was kept trying to tell people,
Starting point is 00:02:12 just like, just wait. And I finally flipped over to the dark side. I was like, it's over guys. I think Randy and I actually put the Vince Carter gifs on the preview pile. They came out like a week ago. That's true. Yeah, it was over before it even started.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Dude, long way, you've come a long way from betting that Patrick Reed won't win the Master's last year to it, correctly predicting that Kevka's going to win the PGA. I think, I don't know, maybe a recency bias, but I can't think of an easier tournament to predict the winner than this past week. I know that sounds like hindsight in 2020, but I'm glad that we are on record actually doing it, but look at that golf course and look at this setup and look at everything. It's like Brooks or Dustin or Rory is going to win this golf tournament. I think Rory, literally nobody else can.
Starting point is 00:02:53 I think Rory winning Congressional was the last. Yeah. Super easy one to pick like that. Yeah, that's a good call. You want to take this time to glow a little bit, big Randall? No. No. You're kind of like the Brooks Capco, the podcast here.
Starting point is 00:03:05 You just kind of like just kind of show up, drop the bomb of who's gonna win the major, just kind of, you know, just in and out, get, grab bonk, and then he goes and spends the rest of the week on the beach. Yeah, he's not even touch a club, but he's home. My pick to not win DJ. In second. That's how good you are.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Exactly. You risk it. That's the, that's. Exactly. You risk it. That's the high degree of difficulty right there. Me and my associate, Sally had DJ at the, DJ runner up, runner up at the two majors to start the year. That's the, what's the Ricky slam? Shout out to Jay Ricky.
Starting point is 00:03:36 He's halfway to the Ricky slam. Yeah. What was the most exciting moment of the day? Honestly, it's kind of pessimistic, but Brooks Air mailing that green on 14 by like 30 yards was sick. It wasn't even close. No, that was like things were, the wheels were wobbling, everything was starting to, it was like,
Starting point is 00:03:53 wow, I mean, he can't pull out this whole thing, there's no way. And then the commentator set it up perfectly and like Brooks must have nuked that ball. He's like, eight yards, we haven't seen anybody hit eight iron. He hit 30 yards over the green. It could read out. Yeah, it was a no-mosh deal.
Starting point is 00:04:10 It just helped state. That's the only, I was gonna say, it's the most shook I've ever seen Brooks look, but it's the only time I've ever actually seen him look shook on a golf course. Kind of shook his head as Caddy and just looked a bit mystified. And there's Channing DJ Adam.
Starting point is 00:04:21 When he air-mailed the green, best moment of the week for the New York fans was that they were like cheering when he air-mailed the green. Best moment of the week for the New York fans was that they were like cheering when he airmailed the green with tough man. Yeah, that's a we're gonna get to the fans. I'm gonna disagree. I'm gonna say that the most exciting moment of the week was thinking that Brooks actually that Ricky was still behind Brooks on 13. Tron some Tronch University guy. Ricky is cad is catty. Yeah, he was pretty steady who I really like and respect But yeah, I mean you know if if some of those penalties they called earlier in the season Our penalties then there's no way that that's not a penalty. It would look like serious takers is a
Starting point is 00:04:57 I'm not sure It did look like it and then they flipped to the behind view and literally the cameraman is directly behind him So Ricky couldn't have been right behind him, but that one view did actually look like it And I thought we were gonna get a little tronchaverse. He stirred up there But you know everybody talks about how bad the controversy's were for golf and how they're oh, there's such a bad look I kind of miss them to be honest. We haven't had a good one in a little while. Hopefully hopefully Well, hopefully the USG We haven't had a good one in a little while. Hopefully, hopefully, hopefully the USG has started to slide.
Starting point is 00:05:25 The USG had a pebble. That'd be great. And it's like, I'm trying to go through my head and see how many different ways that the USG can mess up pebble. It seems like there's less ways that they can mess up pebble. They'll do it. They'll do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Oh, I think so. For sure. I don't see how. I'm with you. I'm talking about the USG. I think it's green. Yeah, there's not that much to do. It's going to grow I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you.
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Starting point is 00:06:10 Which honestly, I thought there was no way they could do it again, but like it existed in the realm. That's true. Guys That was part of the reason I went up to New York this week was to the semedix. No, I did some investigations and oh, sure Played Shinnokok as well. Yeah, you know. Yeah, I could definitely see how they messed up that course. Well, I'm just not willing to put it past them that they won't mess it up. This thing's not over yet. It's not over yet. I hope they do.
Starting point is 00:06:34 I think now's the time to start firing up the, like I hope for total complete chaos and carnage. For sure. At the US Open. Last year's fourth round was disgusting. That was more, they were, Sunday was way more disgusting than Saturday. They should play, they should play.
Starting point is 00:06:48 18 is a par three. I think at, at Pebble, let me say. All right, if I'm throwing this out, tell me first what I, what this number, if it's any good, and then where you stand on it, but the overrunner for career majors for Brooks at seven and a half, where you stand. Is that the number? How old is he?
Starting point is 00:07:05 29. He's 29. And he just turned 29? I think so. I mean, it's irrelevant. I think the number's good. But I'm... He currently has four.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Four. Yeah, I'm going to take the over. It's a lot of majors. It's a lot of majors. He basically has ten years. So that's ten years times four majors. Oh, really five majors, right? He hasn't won a player yet.
Starting point is 00:07:27 So he's got 50 majors in the next 10 years. He has to win four. He's won four. That's true. He might just bail. So just for reference standpoint, 11s and bail. Do you know how many people players have eight majors in their career?
Starting point is 00:07:40 It's Jack, Tiger, Walter Hagen, Ben Hogan, Gary Player, Tom Watson. There's six. Well, Walter Hagen, Ben Hogan, Gary Player, Tom Watson. There's six. Well, let's go into that stat on how many have won majors at this fast of a clip? Cause it's three or four. Now, Jack, Tiger, Ben Hogan, and Rory and Speed. No, no, no, no, no. Not to win that four of eight. Four of eight. Four of eight. Yeah. But by like the, like, Rory won four by the eight to 25. And they're still on four Listen for sure So that's what my point being like that still like another yeah, but Rory fell in love with lifting
Starting point is 00:08:12 Brooks is already He's already he's already he's already an athlete. I mean Rory was jacked when he won in 2014 Yeah, he was getting there, but then he you know the David Boston transition was Randy's man taking a week pounding on this take all week and it's haunted me. It's more Joey Galaway than it's David Boston. It could be, it could be a curse of Wozniac, though. I am open to considering that. No one could disprove it. Listen, I mean, I think that's what makes it a great question though, right? Like it's, I mean, Cat went 11 years between, like he stopped winning at 32, which was very surprising. And of course, he might stop, but like, dude, at this, what
Starting point is 00:08:52 he does so well, it just doesn't seem like it's going to go away very quickly. But I always think it's as soon as somebody wins a major, it's so easy to just start signing them majors. And fun. It is extremely extremely fun. I've won a record of saying, Rory's gonna win 10 and Speed is gonna win eight. They better get on their own. So here's any time now, fellas. Here's where I get back to on that too, is, so Tiger didn't win a major for 10 years, right?
Starting point is 00:09:17 Yeah, 11, yeah. It was a span of 42 majors. Over that period, a friend of mine from Boston calling some of this. Over that period, a friend of mine from Boston, Colin sent me this. Over that period, these are the results of some of the best players in the game in those majors. Sergio, one win, Adam Scott, one win, Justin Rose, one win, DJ, one win, Jason Day, one win.
Starting point is 00:09:39 I know it's hard. Yeah, but I think that's what I'm talking about. Brooks is better than all those guys. For sure, but I'm not saying we were saying similar stuff about Jason Day. But that's true. He was pretty dominant there. It's very, very condensuous set of time. There is similar skill set too.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Exactly. And I think, truly, maybe this is an extremely obvious thing to say, but Brooks's ability to elevate in majors seems like a very real and not even remotely fluky thing. It seems like he plays almost every round of golf like he has nothing to lose. There's absolutely no fee, except for that back nine, he played that to lose. But he seems to just have this, kind of what he says in the press conference seems a little bit like privado of, you know, something that's time these majors are easier to win but I honestly truly think he thinks that because they set it up like they set up
Starting point is 00:10:28 like this it is very much easier for him to win. Well is that the question did he he actually get scar tissue. That's for winning today. I know. I have. I have. All of things. Yeah, it might have been a rattling day today. I definitely have to think so. I mean, he was, it was, the first round was the round that separated him. I mean, he played pretty well in round two, but kind of putted pretty shaky. He was like a negative stroke scheme putting throughout the weekend. And if it wasn't for that, that Thursday round was the best round we'll see in professional golf this year. That's I don't can do. It was a can-do club around. But I think it kind
Starting point is 00:11:04 of nullifies out a little bit when it's DJ breathing down his neck. Somebody that he's comfortable with and respects his skill set and all that, it'd be different if it was... So I don't think he's thinking about that in the moment. I think he's panicking like, dude, I was upset. No, but I think after the fact, right?
Starting point is 00:11:18 I mean, he knows that DJ is probably one of, like, if not the only guy, one of the only guys who has the same level of a you know because I think Brooks looks at as an as an athletic endeavor right there was a lot of that that came out in the stats you know the whole like there's 30 guys that compete me you kind of picture him looking at you know someone who's just like a who's like a really dumpy tour player? Jason Kogra, Jay. What, me, me, your words. But I see him almost looking at those kinds of people
Starting point is 00:11:51 and be like, well, you can't fuck a P.B. Like, I don't even know how much it has to do with golf. I think that's what you're getting at. It's almost more of an avaletic thing. It's like, dude, you, we don't play this in sport. Like, you can't catch up to me. He's like, listen, like, can we go to the gym after this? Yeah, exactly. So I've got a little comp for for today. What we almost witnessed today was very comparable to the 96 masters.
Starting point is 00:12:12 So I'm going to read off Brooks Capka's scorps for the week 63 65 70 74 got worse each day. Greg Norman went 63 69 71 78 and Nick Fowdo shot 67 on the last day, 11 shots swing. Today, DJ only shot 69 and Brooks only shot 64, but it was a pretty comparable Brooks shot. 74. 74. 74, correct. Brooks shot, 4 over. Norman shot, 6 over in that last round.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Got worse every round. He just didn't have a Fowdo that went out and, I mean, it's impossible to post it. Also a totally different course for this. It is. You can't really make a big ass number out there. You can make a double, but you can't make a, you can't make an eight. I mean, I'm a weird take.
Starting point is 00:12:54 I kind of miss water hazard. Yeah, that was a little shame. There was like no water in play almost the entire week. The eighth hole had a pond. I don't think anybody, one guy hit it in there that they showed on today, I think. Yeah, I didn't know actually who that was I'll look it up. I think there were three all week in there
Starting point is 00:13:08 Yeah, and so that's a it's a name not the most relevant but it did notice is like kind of you needed a little bit of Bite in some places that there just wasn't that same bite. That was air wise that hit the water The graphic they showed was not kind to him. It looked like it may have maybe got halfway across the well That was a tough one. Volunteers were kind of spiking the football on that one, I think. How'd you guys, what do you think of Beth Page? Rounding, browsing applause. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:13:36 You know, I mean, it's not a bad course. It's, I think it probably gets overrated a little bit due to its proximity to New York City. It's breadth and reach as a public course with five different courses on site and just how hard it is, how many forced carriers there are for the average amateur. So I think some of that gets conflated into maybe some false sense of prestige. But I think the bones are there. I just don't think it's quite executed all that properly.
Starting point is 00:14:09 I feel like they've got to figure something out in major championship setups that the really thick rough, very close to the green that stops wayward balls very close to the green just doesn't seem like the appropriate punishment. And I go back to, and maybe it's an outlier, but I remember 14 at Pinehurst, I know it's a US open, but watching balls roll away and not stopping and guys having to deal with short grass around the greens. I know Beth Page is not designed like that, so it just, it wouldn't make sense to just shave all the rough,
Starting point is 00:14:36 but I think it's definitely inhibits the viewing experience watching guys like chop out of really ankle deep rough all over the golf course. I think if this is the template, like I think that the course, I could be wrong, but I think the course played exactly how they wanted it to play this week. It seemed like the setup was good for what they're aiming for, and I think if this is the template for future setups, like Brooks is going to win a lot of majors, and Dustin's going to win a lot of majors, and JT's going to win a lot.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Because it's like dude, there's just, it's what we're saying earlier. There's only so many guys who can, who can separate themselves on courses like dude, there's just, it's what we're saying earlier. There's only so many guys who can separate themselves on courses like that, I think. I've never seen thick rough and distance, like, be so much. Matt or so much. Matt or so much. I've never seen somebody control their golf ball
Starting point is 00:15:15 from thick rough like Brooks this week. Like that was, I forget who said it. Like that's like the biggest endorsement for lifting weights in golf that I've ever seen in my entire life. And watching the shorter hitters, like just try to hold on desperately for for the deer's life. That's why some of the guys that made the cut and performed well who are shorter hitters, like a JT post in, or other guys like that. I'm like, damn, you guys
Starting point is 00:15:38 played your ass off this week because- Rich being- Yeah, 69 today, especially when they when they kind of trump it, having the strongest field in golf, but when only 10 or 15 guys in that strongest, and quote unquote, strongest field can actually win the event, does it really matter that it's the strongest field? It does feel a bit like manufactured drama in that regard, that it's like kind of a weed out golf course, and like Rich Beam is not going to win it, like kind of a weed out golf course and like Rich Beam is not gonna win it, just to pull a name of like a short hitter out
Starting point is 00:16:07 and it's, I don't know, it's kind of like we wouldn't go back to Belrieve, everyone said, oh, this is such a great tournament. Like how great it was, like everyone in roasted Belrieve, it's amazing golf course, amazing tournament. It was like, it was good because TigerMator run. Yeah, exactly. Well, you guys talked about it a little bit
Starting point is 00:16:20 on the live show this week where the PGA used to have an identity is like, you know, anything can happen. Like this shit's bananas. Yeah. People are just gonna make parties down the stretch. Yeah. They're gonna put puts on top of each other and anything can happen kind of thing. And I feel like now it's just kind of back to all right,
Starting point is 00:16:39 which I didn't know whether or not to give them credit for like the exciting things that have happened in the past. That's just accidental. Or was it accidental? I don't mean that it's a shot at them. It was just kind of like, dude, I don't think really brutal test is the most exciting for this kind of tournament. I mean, second major of the year is the US Open,
Starting point is 00:16:55 and it's the most brutal. I don't know if they thought, or we're back in May, we need to make this a brutal test, but it's a lot more fun to have a bunch of guys that can make a run at it. It felt kind of like a US Open light. Yeah, right? They had an O2 and an O9 when they did the US open there.
Starting point is 00:17:09 A green US open. Yeah, look like. Yeah, the scoring average is like a shot and a half higher. Yeah. And it seems like, all right, cool. We're not gonna go all the way there, but we're still gonna have the same strategy or mentality here. Which Randy, I know you love the chaos of the US open,
Starting point is 00:17:24 but didn't it kind of feel like it was just kind of half baked chaos this week. Yeah, I went true chaos I think the US I mean that's the US opens identity as we've said I think where Beth Page suffers is from the over promise under delivers standpoint I think you know in comparison to Belrieve where everybody tells you how shitty it is for two weeks going in It's all you can be as pleasantly surprised. I think Beth Page kind of suffers from the opposite a little bit. And I think it's probably really cool to be there on site. And it's a big ballpark and there's plenty of texture
Starting point is 00:17:56 and plenty of, we heard you yelling on the broadcast that we had a great time there. Yeah, man. I think a lot of what makes it kind of lack excitement or lack, you know, guys being able to hit it close is it's that combo. I think what you're saying, Solid, you got all the crazy thick rough round greens. You got a ton of elevated greens and you've got rock hard greens. And so when you get the wind up like crazy like today and you've got these shots that are,
Starting point is 00:18:21 you've got these four irons that are playing downwind or five iron six irons that are playing straight downwind. You just can't get it close to the hole. It's impossible. You've got a foot where you can land it basically, but just after the fringe where maybe it'll roll out to some of these middle pins or front pins or whatever. But that's what Dustin, I don't think he hit that many horrible, horrible shots coming in.
Starting point is 00:18:40 And I'm sure we'll get to Dustin in a minute. But he didn't really go off the rails. He just, he hit us. it's so hard to hit those shots I mean credit credit to play the last four holes in one over yeah, putting a birdie on the hardest hole Of course, he hit a four iron into a par four He said last year the longest iron he had to hit into a par four all year was a seven iron He had hit a four iron coming down the stairs. That's it was really hard today All right a quick break here to check in with the number one
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Starting point is 00:20:31 he was going to stop it on the green. It was like it was impossible. I think like that's just a cool way to neutralize some of that distance when you get the wind going the right way and stuff. My favorite was one, easily. I mean it was a hole where you have to try to cut the going the right way and stuff. My favorite was one, easily. I mean, it was a hole where you have to try to cut the corner in some way. And there was, and if you, like, what happened with Brooks today,
Starting point is 00:20:53 you go too far through the fairway and the left rough with like a left pin, like, you might, you're struggling to make par, but if you hit the fairway around that corner, you got a great opportunity for birdie shout out to your partner. But that was, that was like the most intriguing hole like the shorter holes What and maybe just because they were easier, but it it it wasn't a simple birdie like you had to execute a golf shot And watching the lines that guys took around that corner But it took a lead now just a long time to figure out that they were really trying to cut the corners
Starting point is 00:21:19 That's way right. Oh my god Just pop into the middle of the fairway Just because I see looking at the scatter chart there, how long is the hole and who was closest to it this way? It was 430 yard hole. It looks like Cameron champ hit 1, 350 and got 62 yards away. And then Cameron champ also hit 1, 359 and got 38 yards away. Oh my God, really far.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Well, that was kind of my larger point is like, I don't know, like I get what you're saying and it's cool to see like, are you gonna hit the fairway or are you not? But when the 435 yard par four is becoming your like risk reward. Flip wedge? Flip wedge, like I don't think that's necessarily good.
Starting point is 00:21:59 But it is a whole, first of all it's downhill and it's playing momentum. Downwind. So like the shorter hitters on this whole had a great opportunity. Like, when you hit a good drive and you have 100 yards in, that's a very even-ish playing field with the guy hitting from 60.
Starting point is 00:22:12 The long par force where the guy is hitting from like the rough and it's 210 yards and you know, kept us hitting a wedge from 175. Like, that's not a very good thing. But you got into this a little bit earlier than we got on Twitter is, it's, I feel like it's a bigger difference between hitting the long iron and hitting the shorter mid iron
Starting point is 00:22:30 and on those really, really long parfours than it is hitting a half wedge versus a full wedge. Yeah, without those guys, too. So I feel like even the advantages for the shorter hitters are so muted. Oh yeah, for sure, right? And they come, they're so not scattered throughout the round either. It seems like, just again, like I haven't played there.
Starting point is 00:22:48 I've been there a couple times, but it seems like you've got a, it's basically like, dude, if you don't hit it far, you better play the first six in like four or five under a half. And then wait till 14. Yeah. And to your question, I think 14 was my favorite. Just because, yeah, I want wanna see that everybody in the field have the same shot in front of them and execute that shot
Starting point is 00:23:11 and see what they do with it and then got all the stands and all the kind of the intimidating bunkering around there, even if it's not a really hard hole, and some guys made a mess of it, you know. 18, I thought I actually played more interesting than I thought it was going to as well. I remember in the US Open was there, and I just have this horrible image
Starting point is 00:23:28 of Lucas Glover hitting six iron or whatever he hit off the tee. I'm like, oh, God. On the Monday. Yeah, like this whole stupid, this stinks. But watching it today, where it's like straight into the wind and guys have to hit driver, it's a narrow fairway, and I was saying to you, Solid, it's like,
Starting point is 00:23:43 dude, it's the fun around of a major, like you hit the freaking fairway, if you wanna win, like you better hit the fairway and I was saying you saw it's like, dude, it's the fun around of a major. Like you hit the freaking fairway. If you want to win, like you better hit the fairway. That's the challenge here. And I think again, we've emphasized this a lot. I think people can misconstrued what we mean by the common response we get from a lot of people is like, oh God forbid that a player should be punished for a wayward drive. Like that's not the point. We're not saying like, the wayward drives should get off scot free. There's different ways of challenging players than ankle deep rough, I think. Eliminating the recovery shot.
Starting point is 00:24:11 For instance, Brooks T-Shot on the par 5, on 13, and then T-Shot again on 18. There should have been punished a little bit more in that opinion. While the one on 18, he had to wedge out. 18 was punished pretty good. 13 was a good example of where it's like, dude, sometimes it's better to miss the fairway by 30 yards than by two feet. Tigers got that down. Yeah, go wave the wave right.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Go wave the wave. I don't know. I'm kind of torn on the, like, for a tournament golf setup, like I kind of like how this played, I kind of like the thick wedge out rough because if you go away from that, then it's like, okay, you're really, like you're just giving the big hitters like an even bigger advantage, it seems like, right?
Starting point is 00:24:50 Like yeah, maybe you're keeping more guys in it and more guys can make birdies from 170 or whatever than they can in the thick rough, but I think like the big hitters are just gonna have a massive advantage no matter what you do. I think I agree and I don't know if this is earned or not, but the biggest of the big hitters,
Starting point is 00:25:06 the best drivers are as accurate and hit it far as Jordan Speed this, who doesn't hit it as far. Yeah, some ball doesn't spin. I know. It's way too easy to hit it 3, 20 and straight. It's all relative. Well, for these guys, yeah. I'm right there with them.
Starting point is 00:25:22 For sure. Well, you've got that new, you've got some a little more speed now. Yeah, I'm a there with him. For sure. Well, you've got that new, you've got some a little more speed now. Yeah, I'm a generational driver. Well, but you seem like you've been chasing speed lately. I don't know, we'll have to see how that plays out for your career. He's got a little save,
Starting point is 00:25:34 we saw how it worked for Luke Donald. The weirdest flex I think I've heard in 2019 was, no, no, try and be like, I got the left miscode, right now. I got a two way miss. No, you guys understand how good I'm hitting it. I got the left miscode. We have, you guys don't understand how good I'm hitting it. I got the left miss.
Starting point is 00:25:46 We have a segment on the quote unquote agenda here called, who's career going forward? Did you guys want to do specific names? Do you have names? You want to put people against each other? Of course. How do you want to do? Who do you put pit first?
Starting point is 00:25:59 I think it's just like if you're picking a horse starting now, anybody in golf, who are you picking? What is the criteria is like to win more majors? To win more majors. Yeah, I think that's important. So yeah, because on that note, I think Brooks should start skipping everything, except for like playoff events. I think Brooks players.
Starting point is 00:26:18 You can't prove to me that he plays those events. He shouldn't see it. He should start demanding an appearance fee from the BJ Tour. Well, literally, what are you me to play fucking Hartford? You give me a million dollars not gonna play Hartford. Otherwise, I'm not showing up. I think it's not enough for Brooks. I like Hartford, by the way. That's a great idea. Why you gotta single that one? I know, it's the first of the game of mine.
Starting point is 00:26:38 I think I said this on a live show this week, but it's not enough for Brooks to win majors anymore. Every time he wins one, he needs to recuse an official PGA tour victory that he has. I think he's only got two, right? Exactly. He should give one back every time he wins a major. Brooks won the CJ Cup, first time hearing of this. I don't remember that either.
Starting point is 00:26:56 So that might be a major now. I was like, yeah, it was like six months ago. Well, it's sick. I mean, I think his, I don't think anybody remembers the CJ Cup victory. But him winning, he's sick. I mean, I think his, I don't think anybody remembers the CJ Cup victory, but him winning, Randy's favorite CJ Cup memory. But him winning the Phoenix Open was akin to,
Starting point is 00:27:12 that was awesome. And how can Rare winning at Greenbrough? It cheapened his entire career. It did. It just stained on the entire game. But I do remember vividly the drive that he hit on 18 at Phoenix was very similar to the drive Cabrera hit at Oakmont To win at the US oven. That was awesome
Starting point is 00:27:28 Which would have to talk about the 2011 Phoenix open well after it was to the 2016 or 2015 15 but every every I think a obligatory Every time Capca wins a major I'd like to say that I was quite on the Capca bandwagon quite early I mean, I please note that thank you very much. I feel like you almost scared him away. I did. It came on too strong. Yeah, no, what we know about him now, you should have,
Starting point is 00:27:52 like, apathy would have been the way to go. What's funny is Porter and I shared like a fantasy team and Shane's Ryan's fantasy pool. We drafted Brooks in the first round before he played his first official PGA tour season. And after when he was playing what Nancy referred to on the broadcasts, that challenge tour. And I photoshopped, we called our team the Brooks Brothers,
Starting point is 00:28:15 and I made a photoshop from a Brooks Brothers ad of Meep Order in Keppka. And somebody, one of Keppka's friends, like, sent it to him or something, and he tweeted out the picture and was like, you know who to take first round, boys. And tag me in order. And that was the last time you ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, like busy, though, I changed my number. I changed my number from moving to Amsterdam. All right, so who you taking, Deach? Well, I think if it's we're saying starting now who wins more majors? Starting now, everybody's on an effective player.
Starting point is 00:28:47 I thought we're gonna go one, like, pit people against each other, but we can do this way as well. One, what? Billion, billion percent, not even, Brooks. Are we talking about an indefinite timeframe? Yeah, yeah, rest of their careers. So you can factor in on gravity, you can take jazz. Why don't we say it's going to be a winner? I might take action. That's exactly the same.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Well, if we want to put everyone on the level playing field, why don't we say the next 10 years, like how many majors will people know? Because I feel like that's, I'm going to take speed because he's going to win majors into his 40s, I think. Okay. Is that wrong? I think it deep into like the methodology of this pick. I think it was going to, of active players, who's going to win the most majors going for it? Starting now, everybody's at zero. Yeah. You're going Brooks 100%. of this pick. I think it was good of active players who's gonna win the most majors going for starting now Everybody's at zero. Yeah, you're going Brooks 100% for sure. I get how do you not pick Brooks? I guess I'm more curious That's my main reasoning. I'm getting pick bro. I'm getting deja vu from the preview pod for both of you guys right pick Brooks
Starting point is 00:29:36 And said how do you not take well? Sometimes you know what I'm not so you two you two say your piece and then and then Solino's I think other guys have you guys watching? Yeah, well, then, Salino's. I think other guys are going to have you get some watching. Yeah. Well, that's what I said on the live show. I think that, have you been watching this? No, that's the thing. It's like, you don't even have to watch anymore.
Starting point is 00:29:54 I've been reading this for recent, that crazy stuff. Recessy bias AF. For sure. But at the same point, it's like, the dudes won four of eight. I think that, I was saying this on a live show earlier, I think I don't know what has come over us over the last two years where there's been so much talk about like, oh, could be Rory's week, could be Spieff,
Starting point is 00:30:14 could be Dustin, could be Rose this week. And like, Capka is all the like, you know, chip on his shoulder stuff gets overblown, but like, he's the only guy right now. Like, whatever your preview is on the next, on like, Port Rush or Pebble or like Brooks is at the top of the list. Here's the question though now, is it finally, is Brooks like finally to that point where you can't even like remotely ignore him that now they're actually might be a little bit of pressure on him.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Like, it does that change things. I don't know. Do we start tracking Brooks's rounds in majors the way we do Rory's? Like, it's still noteworthy when Rory misses a cut. It had a major. It didn't happen this week, despite being out out there.
Starting point is 00:30:54 And I feel like people have to, I still feel like people have to care about Brooks. Is that now though? Is that, that's question. But I still, I still don't know that they will. I respect the hell out of them, but I don't give a shit about them. Like, yeah. And like, I don't mean that in a demeaning way.
Starting point is 00:31:06 He just doesn't, he doesn't like, stir anything within me. And I think a lot of people are struggling with that feeling right now. I mean, kind of, which like you said, you can't fake that. Right, you can't, like a lot of people I think you were saying, like, or it seemed like they're feeling guilty.
Starting point is 00:31:20 I think, dude, the heart wants what it wants. You know? Well, so I toss it out, because we had talked about that on the live show a little bit, is trying to think of other examples in sports. And so, something on Twitter tossed out like Novak, Joke of itch. I was thinking Samperous. Yesterday a little bit too, where... Yeah, even people.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Samperous, though, because he was American, human-agency. The one I kind of settled on, which I like, but maybe it's not a good one, is like Tim Duncan. Oh, that's pretty good. I like but maybe it's not going as like Tim Duncan Oh, that's pretty good. I like that. You know, one of the explain what this was, but Tim Duncan's exceptionally humble Well, just just where they are so good and and it's a little not one-to-one because Duncan obviously plays a team sport but Just like no matter how good they are and what their stats say and how many championships they win, people just don't really care. They don't move the needle.
Starting point is 00:32:12 So from that perspective, that's why I was thinking Duncan. But if there's others that you guys... You said Mike Trout last night too, I think. White child, somebody, yeah. I'll take the Mike Trout, but I don't think I ever... That didn't originate with him. They originated through the ether, I'll take the white child, but I don't think I ever that didn't originate through the ether. I don't know if you have it. But yeah, no, I don't think anyone's denying that like if Rory and Brooks are going head to head even despite Brooks being American like most Americans are gonna be
Starting point is 00:32:35 pulling for Rory like overwhelmingly. It was jarring to see as soon as like that's what we were saying in here Can you imagine the feeling of doing a historic performance for 54 holes and the wheels start falling off and the entire drunk crowd just starts rooting against you and rooting for your closest friend? I feel like watching Brooks when he's playing while it feels like rooting for the house. Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Right? Yeah, he just looks like he's supposed to win. But it's not fun to root for. Exactly. All right, you guys got to tell me, if you're not taking Brooks, who are we talking to? You's kind of supposed to win. But it's not fun to root for it. Exactly. All right, you guys gotta tell me, if you're not taking Brooks, who are we taking? You're kind of talking me into it. Like I feel like I don't want to be proven wrong yet again
Starting point is 00:33:12 on Brooks. At least this one's gonna take like 15 years to work. Well, no, I'm more just like just the reasoning. I think that's what I'm most careful about. I don't have a good enough reason to take like, like I would want to say speed because of how young he is and if he's got, I mean, he's got four years that 16 major starts on
Starting point is 00:33:27 Kebka in theory. Is he going to, should he win more majors than Kebka with 16 extra starts? Who knows? I mean, you think about the speed that Brooks has in his swing, that increases the injury potential. But also increases the wind potential. For sure.
Starting point is 00:33:43 For sure. But also, we're in the darkest, we're in the darkest stage of space career right now. Yeah. And hopefully it looks to be coming out of it. And you just, and you just, Hold on, that's my point. Is homeboy just finished time for third?
Starting point is 00:33:55 In the darkest stage of his career. No, no, I'm with you. I'm, I'm, I'm, you're right. And I was speed. You're on time. I think that's, yeah. And I think speed's gonna have more longevity. I think that's yeah, and I think we're gonna have I think space gonna have more longevity I think he's gonna be gonna be able to yeah like yeah, Brooks
Starting point is 00:34:10 You can you can pencil him in for the PGA every other year For the next 10 years yeah, that's five there's five I mean there's gonna go with six more, they only play the masters once a year. What's Brooks done at Augusta? It's been a second. It's been a second this year. He hasn't won yet. He doesn't have a green jacket.
Starting point is 00:34:32 He's played it like three times. I will say, I will say. What speed done in Augusta? Well, I will say, one twice. One. Since 2014. It's one like six.
Starting point is 00:34:44 It's been 2014. Well, actually, like since Brooks has been twice once since 20 is one like three. He's one like six. Since 2014, well actually, like since Brooks has been professionally missed the cut at the open championship in his first start, which is his first major start as a pro, which who knows what better and since then he hasn't missed a cut in a major and like you look at anybody else in that time frame, it's three, four, five missed. Like the dude is, he's gonna, he gives himself a lot of chances. So I couldn't find a good way to present this on Twitter, so I didn't bother tweeting it. But in the last eight major starts, he's had like his record against the field. So he finished T-39 at one of the open championships, I think it was the last year or 2018. Are we going to sag her in here? This is a little bit saggy. So the T-39, so he loses to, you know, 38 people, but he is beaten 1,000 and 95 people
Starting point is 00:35:28 in the fields and lost to 56 and 38 of them were all at one tournament, over a turn of an eight tournament span. Like that's nuts. He's beaten like 94% of the field. I mean, all right. So going back to speed, 2018, probably the worst year of his career this far, right? He finished third at the Masters, missed the cut at the US Open, T9 at the at the British, T12 at the PGA. He shows up, he showed up at the majors. So where I go back to though, in like comparing spieth, I think I still would probably invest stronger in Rory than I would spieth going forward to majors because of the skill of hitting
Starting point is 00:36:04 it really far and straight. And it's so much more has to go right for speed to win the majors, whereas like Brooks bullied this golf course and had that go right. He potted great in the first round, the rest of the week it wasn't outstanding. Like he didn't have to make a ton of puts to win it. I feel better betting on somebody that can kind of,
Starting point is 00:36:22 no I get it. I load that pressure part of it than like relying on speed to make a ton of putts. Listen, I understand I'm taking the underdog position here and I, and I, underdog central. And as far as stats go to, I mean the stats bear it out, you can gain a lot more strokes off the teeth and you can putting. I agree, like I think speed probably will play like a longer career for sure, but I just
Starting point is 00:36:43 don't think, and not everything comes back to the golf course and the setup and everything but a lot of it does and professional golf is not professional golf is going the way of Brooks Capka right now. It's not going the way of Jordan's beat. Yeah I think you just put that way I was kind of thinking as I I would not root for that and I don't like it but that's the way it goes. But at some point is there a is there a correction maybe? What's the reaction? goes. But at some point, is there a correction? Maybe. What's the reaction? What's the reaction?
Starting point is 00:37:07 Yeah, what's going to spur the ball changes? Or that setup's change? Or what? Something like that. Honestly, Kev can might spur the crap. Like, he might, yeah. Exactly. He might lower the mound and baseball.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Like, if he's too good, they might make a correction. KVV had a good one of lower the tee height. That's what Zach Blair said. Yeah, I see. Yeah. I think that's a really interesting one. That would change guys like hitting up on the ball. I think they should just get rid of the T. No T-T.
Starting point is 00:37:32 No T-T's there. We had very mixed success with that. So, have you guys, if you're taking Capca, have you guys factored in the chance that he like might go play minor league baseball for a couple of years just because he gets bored with something? With the Birmingham Bar. Absolutely not really.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Yeah. Now, I don't know how many more he wins on that, but like I just, gosh, I just, I don't know. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, we're, we're forgotten man. Probably kind of offending, we're not even talking about him right here. Exactly. I mean, but it's like, we kind of have a known quantity here with Brooks. It's almost like, like fool me once,
Starting point is 00:38:12 you know, four times, I'm not gonna fall for this again man. Like four times, I'm more on this. This is incredible. Whereas like, yeah, there's not like a real reason to bet on anyone else at this point. So I have to be with you. I have to say Brooks, it just feels like, I get there's not like a real reason to bet on anyone else at this point. So I have to be with you. I have to say Brooks, it just feels like,
Starting point is 00:38:27 I get afraid to do that. The defense rests. Based it on this much recency. But like what we just saw, like I said, is it's 0% fluke. Like there's no smoking mirrors with anything we just saw. Randy, what about Ricky? I thought this was the week for Ricky, didn't you? I was really hoping for a strong showing today.
Starting point is 00:38:48 The most excited I've gotten, I think this week was when Claude Harman was on the steps after Brooks wanted to all deck out and poo with stuff and someone thought it was Ricky. And then Ricky was like five steps behind him. And Ricky was actually right. Right, around the corner. Can I, if somewhat seriously, if this actually could possibly be? You don't even know his last name. No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:39:08 I literally just Googled Akshay Golfer, but I know... It's Janet Watananan. I know he's working with Gankas, but he's back's gonna blow up. They say he doesn't miss a putt. Yeah. Well, I mean, he's...
Starting point is 00:39:19 What is he? Like 15, 17? Like, I'm just saying, he might be... Yeah, I'm saying, he That's not pretty much pressure on the No, I'm saying the guy who I my point is the guy who might win the most majors over the next 15 years We might not know his name yet Well, I think it like it has to be a guy whose program that will right couldn't yeah could be that will oh God All these gankers, but that's where Kebke feels like the point is it's all about speed Well, that's what I'm saying is
Starting point is 00:39:45 Keppka feels like a link in the evolution of athleticism and strength and it's just gonna keep going. That's what I'm saying. It's gonna keep like this. And that's where it's like, yeah, I love speed, but did he say it just a decided disadvantage at the end of the day?
Starting point is 00:40:01 Which is why it's even more puzzling that Rory isn't racking more of these up. Or like really even been close in a long time. There's something about Rory. I think it seems like he's got a little bit of a mental block. Like I don't, you know, obviously I can't diagnose it, but just watch him. It's like the pieces just don't fit right now.
Starting point is 00:40:21 And it's been that way for five years. A little bit. Yeah. And maybe not all of five years. A little bit. Yeah. And maybe not all of five years, but last couple years, where you're... It is crazy to think. You kind of expect back things to happen, or you just expect them not to do much, and he doesn't do much. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:34 It's crazy to think that 2014 was five years ago. Not necessarily the math, just crazy to worry. He's got such an advantage off the tee and he just doesn't seem to take advantage of it from there. It's like he's getting a head start on every hole and then he just doesn't take, you know, he doesn't use it. Which to your point Randy, I think is kind of like, yeah, I don't know if it's a scar tissue built in,
Starting point is 00:40:56 but he's learned, I don't wanna say learned to lose, but he's had a lot of losing and Brooks hasn't had that yet. So once Brooks starts getting punched in the face, do the wind start stop coming as frequently? Maybe, I don't know, like we haven't seen that yet. So once Brooks starts getting punched in the face, do the winds stop coming as frequently? Maybe, I don't know. We haven't seen that yet, is the question. What's that line where guys start coming at Brooks specifically, right?
Starting point is 00:41:15 Kind of like cap before, where it was like, all right, you are the man. I mean, are we there yet? Does he need to win one more? I don't know if we should be there. I don't know when we're going to be there. I think that's a really good point though. We haven't seen him, we haven't seen him failure.
Starting point is 00:41:33 That's why I think today could have been, like if you would have given that up, like literally the most historic collapse in history. You had to retire. It would have been, yeah, like that would have, God, that would have changed the dynamic of his career, which sounds like such a stupid like sportswriter thing but I think that's so true. Did we talk enough about DJ? I've
Starting point is 00:41:51 wanted to at least mention he birdied the hardest hole in the golf course. Did I? Did I felt like this week? It did. It did but gosh it just it felt like kind of a wasted wasted performance. I guess I don't know if that's the right way to say it but like he absolutely should have won if Brooks never existed. Poor. He played so freaking well. Randy loves those hypothermates.
Starting point is 00:42:12 I know. I know. My dad had balls in him. Should be my uncle. In the, it's a wonderful life world, Dustin won this. Pooreth had a tweet, I think it was on Friday where Austin gave him a yardage, DJ Air Mail's the green by 30 yards, he looks back at him.
Starting point is 00:42:30 It just kind of summed up the whole thing. Yeah. Today was cool though, man. Like he knew exactly what he had to do. I think there was a feeling that like, you know, for all the reasons we've mentioned about length and the golf course, whatever, like Dustin is the guy. Maybe like Luke List has the firepower
Starting point is 00:42:46 if he would go crazy low, but he doesn't want the moment. Doesn't seem like it's gonna be as likely like Dustin's the guy. If anybody's gonna catch him, it's Dustin. And he goes out and he plays like flawless on the front nine, plays awesome, plays like tough stretch. He's not really well. All the way up to like birding 15. And I'm like, finally man, like this is what we've wanted
Starting point is 00:43:03 to see from Dustin. And it was super fun to watch. And I don't really like blame him for the misses on 16 and 17. I mean, I think those are just really hard. I almost felt like he executed the shot he had to mine, right? Almost too well. It wasn't seen for sure. A little bit like Harold Barnard
Starting point is 00:43:19 after birding the first hole too, like, oh, God. Not this video. This is actually a real tournament now. We talked about some about speed. I just wanted to mention, I know I said in the preview podcast, this is not a speed golf course. I actually, I still believe that. If you look at it, it's like ball striking numbers,
Starting point is 00:43:37 man, he potted the fuck out of the ball. Yeah, I was gonna say the same, like, the best score he could have put up this week. Yeah, it makes me, honestly, this week makes me a little worried for future PGA's forum, like actually getting one if they're going to continue with these kind of setups. Well, do we want to go through the future venues, by the way?
Starting point is 00:43:51 Yeah, it's a good, because there's- Well, it's a good spot today. It's bleak, man. First, yeah, it's not pretty. For people of that type of game. Harding Park next year. I don't think that's going to be too bad for him. It depends what the rough is like.
Starting point is 00:44:02 I mean, obviously, it's going to be, I think it's almost going to, maybe not. I almost feel like it's going gonna play similar to this week, right? Like it's gonna be crazy narrows again. There's a lot more in the greens though. There is. Right. I think it'll just be crazy narrow fairways and crazy thick rough. Because I think that that's one of my criticisms of Beth Page is there's just not a whole lot of variety with the greens to where it doesn't, you know, like if your distance control is on and you don't
Starting point is 00:44:25 really have to think a whole lot. Yeah. Right. And they kept saying all week about how guys are over reading the putts, like the greens just don't break that much. There's a lot more to the greens at Harding Park. And yeah, I just don't think they're going to, I think they're going to look back at this way.
Starting point is 00:44:38 You can be like, that was probably too tough. Like I don't think that was the most exciting golf term we could. That was, that was my biggest takeaway at Harding Park Park, was just how much was going on in the greens. And really even around the greens, when you missed a green too. 21 is Kiowa, 22 is Trump Bedminster, 23 is Oak Hill, 24 Valhalla, 25 is gonna be the new course in Frisco in Texas, I believe.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Which, that's the total wild card. Yeah, we get to that advantage. We get to that advantage. Design in that. I think that that's that's kind of when we get into like the identity of the PGA I think there's some interesting stuff to think about there which if Gil Gil Hans is designing a golf course for Professional golfers like he's some of the things we've noticed like it rustic canyon like it's like like at least two of the par Fives had run outs on part on on the on the drive. Yeah, so it was like okay Bombers like you got a strat- strategize your way around this golf hall. Like it's not going to be a who it's the ball the furthest and you guys are going to kind of get to some of
Starting point is 00:45:31 the same decision points and figure out where to take your risks. And I'd be really interested to see it. Hopefully puts makes 18 cent of line bunkers like they did it Boston and Pistoff all the players, but like that is, you're exactly right. That's the place where it's going to be like, okay, what are you guys going to do? You are building a golf course. It's probably going to hold rider cups in the future. It's definitely going to hold PGA. Building two courses.
Starting point is 00:45:55 And this is like, what do you guys want to do? You have your blank slate of figuring out what you want to do. Yeah. And there's not going to be, I mean, it's in central Texas. There's not a whole lot of stuff that you can do. Like you got to trick it up a little bit. 26 is a Ronimic, 27 will be Frisco again. I think 28 was open.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Which honestly are a Ronimic. I don't know how you, they're gonna shoot 28 on the... I don't know how you'd have a major there next year, much less than 2026. Well, so they obviously went crazy low at the BMW when we were there last year. Yeah. Was it, I mean, was it just,
Starting point is 00:46:30 mega wet that it was crazy soft? It was wet. It was really wide. But it's so wide and the way, they're gonna have to push the bunkers out to, you know, 40 yards past where they are because Hans said he, when they redid the course, they did it for the members,
Starting point is 00:46:45 they didn't do it for professional golf, and they wanted to bring it back to, what Ross had in mind, not professional golfers. Yeah, and there's not much space to put any more tease in. I don't think that's, we'll get to that in 2026 and the preview pod, but yeah, to your point, I think that is the most interesting thing is kind of seeing what it's gonna happen with this golf course and the strategy behind it
Starting point is 00:47:07 So they left have Gillon to talk about it. That would be great. Who designed Trump Bedminster? I Don't know that sounds like a Reese Jones or I would it certainly has that it has that field got a it's a big-ass piece of land Yeah, it's big ballpark. I thought like I played there. I don't know four or five years ago I thought it was like it's pretty cool. It's it's a huge huge huge place. It's the Faws the Faws You know who going back to just guys who are kind of in their prime right now and not taking advantage of it Justin Rose This would seem to be a really good course for him, right?
Starting point is 00:47:43 It's yeah, yeah. I mean, he's probably a little longer than Speed, but this isn't like Greenlight Special. He's long, you shit, right? He's long, but not, he's not Keppka DJ kind of long, not Rory long. I think there's a good iron. I think there's a Tier one and a Tier one A of length.
Starting point is 00:48:01 I'm tired. I think the guys that are in that, that one A are not very many. It seems like Vanity Lang, and'm too early. I think the guys that are in that, that one A are not very many. It seems like vanity length, and then like that. Exactly, exactly. Who's got it in reserve? Totally.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Somebody's tweeted this this week, Justin Roosevelt's like he's going through a midlife crisis with the new shirts and the funky putters. Those are Randy's friends at Pinobus. Equipment change and there we shot him. legitimate shot. No, no, no, no, no, Priet. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, It's a big Randy's. Or to come on that, but I think it's important to note that Walmart owns Benobos and Randy's big Walmart guy. Randy, we're learning, we're learning. We got those prices, baby.
Starting point is 00:48:48 We can take this out of Sepert powder. Randy's been an absolute enemy to small business lately. He's going to a different haircut place. He's supporting the old great place. Yeah, those are so bad. Katie's gonna be hardbroken to find that out. He's probably at the pot. He's probably slapping around whole foods,
Starting point is 00:49:03 supporting Jeff Bezos. No, I am Amazon delivers all my questions. By drone. DG, I don't know if you want to take a little bit of time off, but I think we're approaching minute 50 here in this podcast. Might be time to talk about the coverage a little bit. Yeah, I'm going to have a beer here, OK. I think the biggest highlight of the week,
Starting point is 00:49:22 the biggest gift we got was yesterday on highlight. Highlight or low light? That was a highlight. Oh, the blimp tracer was absolutely incredible. I mean, that was definitely the highlight of the day for me, I don't know about you guys. Yeah, that was rough, man. Can we, I just wanna go through the replies on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:49:37 So they, as soon as it goes up, they say, nice drive, Justin Rose. For the first time ever on a golf broadcast, Ariel Tracing gives you an overhead look at the shots flight pattern. The replies were incredible. Mackenzie Hughes, PGA tour player. The reason it's the first time ever is because no one before them thought of such a terrible idea.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Why is this a thing? Nobody wants this. Please do not utilize technology in future telecasts. Thank you in advance. Every day we stray further from God's light. Like, look at the green, the gist and the replies. You know how to laugh at this, DJ. You were tired of it. I was having to say something else.
Starting point is 00:50:15 And more of this, and while you're at it, please talk more about the caddies and players or talk, they just got absolutely roasted for it. So here's the biggest difference too, is they win the masters, like yeah, we're gonna show everybody every single shot of the entire golf tournament. But it's kind of like an oh by the way,
Starting point is 00:50:32 whereas CBS is big flashing lights. Like hey, something you didn't ask for, but here it is anyway. Exactly. Well, what is, I think it's disgusting how you guys pick them for plucky CBS. They're trying to advance with new technologies. Take me, but I want to.
Starting point is 00:50:48 I'm talking to Tron and D. Randy here, please. But take me into that meeting. What's that meeting like where this gets green lit and how much money do you think they spend on this thing? Well, they're in with big blimp, right? They are, which is real shame that blimp, it was too windy for the blimp on Sunday. And no air support on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:51:05 But do you think they would have rolled it back out after how poorly it was received? Well, I think the, I think blimp vision or whatever they're calling it, blimp tracer. I think we name it. It is kind of a false flag operation for the shitty putting line that they had. I'm more in on the shitty putting line
Starting point is 00:51:23 than I was blimp tracer. It's so distracting and so wrong most of the time. I kind of think that they just, they draw it on when they show a putt on replay. And those are on flat greens. Imagine that on greens and I've sloped in them, man. Other than I'm with you there. My favorite part of blimp tracer though
Starting point is 00:51:40 was that it was also wasn't even accurate. Like it didn't even show the right line. Somebody called it the stock footage that you see on Golden Tea when nobody's playing. The fact that they didn't show the guys swing, that was the best part I think. Where, you know, like they're not, they're actually not,
Starting point is 00:51:56 they've made this so convoluted where they're not actually showing the action. It's incredible. I got the whole thing backwards. Can I tag in for one quick hug? And then I'm out. And then I'm out. What the hell, man?
Starting point is 00:52:09 What's in I'm out? I got her, they called my number. I got her report down there. Tell them I'm not going to be participating. They, like, that's why NBC goes split screen. If you're going to get funky with the, the trace. Well, that's what they did today. The flight scope thing on the right side to say,
Starting point is 00:52:22 do you mean, that's great. I think that's, that's fine. But like with the blimp tracer specifically, it's like, you can't, like, it just can't stand alone. It was terrible. And so, okay, I'm out. I'm out. And a lot of people will say,
Starting point is 00:52:32 who cares, blah, blah, blah? The whole point we've always had is that there are actual tangible issues that need to fix. And the answer from anybody involved in golf in any way is like, why things can't happen? A lot of them are quite terrible. Well, it just costs too much money, things can't happen a lot of more. Well, it just costs too much money, but then they spend a bunch of money on it.
Starting point is 00:52:48 You have any idea how much money this thing had to have cost, and the fact that they're willing to spend time and resources and everything dedicated towards addressing whatever issue they think they're addressing with this thing shows how fucking clueless they are on absolutely everything covering golf. Randy, and Randy, do you have anything to say about your boy McCord today, this whole weekend? He was in rare form, even for hand. He growled. I do not.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Brow. Thank you. I do not. Vern had a amplify. He needs Ferdivator. Hey, it's all safe. It's all better with Ferdivator. Keep Vern's name out your mouth.
Starting point is 00:53:19 I think Vern had a couple of those gusts from Vern's nose, blue DJs plus. Yeah, DJs, blue DJs plus. He's back in. No, that was never, that was a joke. I'm a lot of big gusts from Verne's nose, blue DJs plus. Yeah, DJs, blue DJs plus. That was a joke. I'm a lot of big jokes. Verne's infallible. I'm a big Verne guy.
Starting point is 00:53:30 When they went to the interview. I might fall away from the church of Verne. There were a ton of commercials. Like they had two guys on the whole course today for most of the afternoon. Those guys, they still managed to mangle the commercial breaks. Keppka is in one of the biggest spots in the whole tournament. That was egregious.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Talking to Ricky, and not only they not show it, they go to interview. A DJ interview, which DJ, what is one thing that you do? Hit the ball really well, dude. He's playing the 72nd hole of the major. Like, why the hell do you have to cut to that interview? Or tape everything else, tape that, and then play it after kept good, plays a shot. I know you agree.
Starting point is 00:54:13 You guys are looking at me to react. You're nodding. That's a coverage take. That's entertaining. I'm just looking at something else. We're just having a big time listening to you. I'm sure if you guys produced a teleguest with the local author. I'm curious next year with ESPN coming in
Starting point is 00:54:28 to the fold if they push things forward. Another guy, I did forget about that. I think their ESPN is just basically a CBS puppet though. I mean, it's the same like a CBS production. Like CBS produces the TNT stuff you see. Yeah, but I feel like when ESPN does, like the, does ESPN have all the masters? No, they just have the first two. But I feel like it's still they're still bringing their own talent in
Starting point is 00:54:49 He's gonna be there. Yeah, there's there's still some as long as Burman is not there. I'm cool that Just steer into it All right, can we talk about the New York fan? Oh, here we go. Let's do it. Let's do it. Oh, they're part of the reason why I root for Europe and the Ryder Cup.
Starting point is 00:55:14 I'm not gonna argue this. They're a disgrace. And everybody's like, oh, it's New York. No, like, you have a choice whether to be a disgrace or not. And you make the choice, like, have a choice whether to be a disgrace or not. And you make the show like you go with nine steps over the line whenever possible. It's exhausting. My first thing was when they were chanting for DJ after Kepka, Air Mail of the Green, and then at the top of DJ swing on 17 they just start yelling.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Like the one they were rooting for him and they were willing to screw up his swing and yell at the top of it so they're the first ones on the Broadway. It's almost like they might not be genuine. It's almost like it may not be a golf tournament. They're just a notice. It's just a live under par drink fast. I'm gonna say, I think it's a lot of people under par. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:01 It's hard. You need to get that many people in the door and you need to get them tossed up and they're having, well that's kind of what I'm saying is like I think you do just from like how big these tournaments have gotten and how big the advertising is. But that's not where the money is coming from. Well let's do it this way because I think we are kind of way on the end of the scale of the golf like Harto scale. Like we're not like shooter McGavin. We're like damn you people, go about to your shanties. But I want to know Randy, you're like the biggest, maybe the biggest agent of chaos, like the more chaotic things get, the more you're like, yeah, golf's boring, like this
Starting point is 00:56:32 should be entertaining. So I'm most curious as to where you stand on these fans' participation. I think it's not very entertaining to me. So I think it's, the chaos they're bringing isn't of, like I said, isn't it when entertaining nature? What if someone would have stole Brooks's ball? That's cool. I'm in.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Yeah, I'm in. They're just stuck in this like, borish middle ground. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the answer is to it. Well, I'm asking that because is anybody sitting at home saying, like, gosh, we gotta watch this. I don't know what the answer is to it. Well, I'm asking that because is anybody sitting at home thing like saying like Gosh, we got to watch this the fans in New York are nuts. This is so cool
Starting point is 00:57:10 Yeah, why we hear that on the golf channel and on everywhere how great all the New York fans are and how amazing Well, and I'm sure it's I'm sure it's an 80 20 thing to right where 20 I mean and there's so many people there And it might be more of a 60 40 but I mean, and there's so many people there anyway, and it might be more of a 60, 40. But, but, you know, I just, I feel like there's just so, it comes back to also like, all right, you wanna grow the game, but how do you wanna grow the game? Do you wanna educate people and you wanna get them into golf and do you wanna really get people to root for golf or you just wanna bring them out into a big field
Starting point is 00:57:41 and have them drink all day? I think we know the answer. Those are two very, very, very different things. And I think the PGA tour, you know, I didn't know the PGA champion ship is run. It's the one tournament a year run. So it's just a symptom of the PGA tour. But I think they've kind of telegraphed their strategy there.
Starting point is 00:57:59 When the person gets so big, when the money gets so big, like the, like the people that you're watching are, you don't relate to them on a personal level, right? Like they just become almost... They're like actors or puppets. Yeah, they're, you know, yeah, they're animals in a zoo or something that you just... They're the entertain you.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Yeah. They're putting on a show for you. And that's why the players can't speak up really on it. Because you lose out. If you say something, you now are the target of these things. I'm sure you're beholding this. We've heard stories of people heckling golfers in the 19th century. So I'm not sure if it's a good take actually.
Starting point is 00:58:40 But I feel like there's almost, there's almost a expectation now though. It's like, well why, at least it seems this way in the Northeast, where, like why else would you go to a tournament, except to get drunk and yell at people? They seem like they're trying to one up themselves. It was like, oh, oh, two was a big deal. Oh, wait till oh nine, and then now 19,
Starting point is 00:59:02 and now guess what's coming? A Ryder Cup, people are gonna die out there. Like, and I guess that's the whole thing. I feel a little much. Dude, but I like it. Think of the children. Six of them even think of the children was weird, man.
Starting point is 00:59:16 I'm telling you, after the PJ Willett, the Danny Willett letter that went out, the things that those fans were yelling, like he's passionate, like 45 yearyear-old women in the stands, like, I just got a belly full hot dogs, but Mr. Willet, he's yelling at him, like with passion. That means.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Because those were less and deep reference. The letter was about how the Americans were all guzzling hot dogs and shitty food and beer and stuff. And it was totally privitive and correct. Which is weirdly weirdly weirdly, it was weird. It was like a weird vibe there, and that was totally proven to be incorrect. Which is weirdly weirdly, it was weird. It was like a weird vibe there. And that was Wisconsin. So what, I'm sorry, that was Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Like what percentage of the money that the PGA championship is bringing in, or the Ryder Cup for that matter is bringing in is coming from the gate versus coming from TV. I mean, it's gotta be be massively skewed TV, right? Massively skewed towards TV. Yeah, so that's the thing. Well, what is this road leading toward like, no fans?
Starting point is 01:00:12 No, it's not no fans, but it's just like less booze. Well, it's just, yeah, just, I'm not even saying make it less fun. I'm saying, make it more fun for actual golf fans. You know what, can you imagine going out there this weekend and trying to watch golf? No, 100%. But that was her intent? Well, I feel that way going to NFL games now, quite honestly.
Starting point is 01:00:31 It's like I would rather not go to an NFL shirt. But I don't want to put up with the game. But Randy, for instance, like whenever we go to say Harbor Town or even players, I mean, it's a good, and I know I've been dumping on the PGA tour, but like they've done a good job of players a pretty legitimate event, and people there are golf fans, and that just may be this area,
Starting point is 01:00:52 and people play golf year round down here. But to a certain extent, it's like, at the very baseline level, you have to cater to golf fans first and foremost. If you're catering to the hooligan off the street, but here's the deal. New York, the cats out of the bag. Like you can't go backwards once the toothpaste out of the tube. You can't go backwards and be like, Oh, no, no, guys, I calm down because the people that are they're yelling and causing the issues aren't listening to anything that they're not listening to this podcast. So the
Starting point is 01:01:21 next level of it is like is Beth paididge even a good Ryder Cup course? Like to shave it down, but like what are the what are the good match play holes out there? It's just about the fan. It's just legitimately gonna be about the fans. I'm serious People are gonna die. Somebody's gonna get stabbed by a tried Things are gonna escalate. I'm telling you. I wonder this might be the most old man take that I've ever had to strap in. I know, that's why I feel like I'm... But I feel like we're the, we're the, like the grumpy guys down the block here.
Starting point is 01:01:51 I feel bad. I've all put on like 15 years this week. But I wonder how much of this would subside if you took phones away? Because I think so fucking much of it is like the Instagramification or snapchatification of the world and look at any like people are screaming that shit Like because they want to have it on their Instagram and then they're gonna post like oh my god look what I fucking yelled Yeah, right in his face. Did you see that? That was sick. You see how he flinched that was hilarious
Starting point is 01:02:18 That's again the toothpaste out of tube though. You can't take phones away now. Yeah, that's true or can you? I mean that then you're gonna lose 60% of the people going probably, but now we're starting to get closer. That means less money. You guys talking shrink the game? I don't know, man. It's a weird time. I'm glad I don't have to make any important decisions.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Well, that's where I get back to the tour zone, Paul's, they're just at odds with themselves. It's, you know, they want to grow. You want to grow it up at what cost? On their par, they want to be social, they want to be. And this is, I don't want to get social. And to be clear, we understand the difference between a PGA Tour event and one run by the PGA
Starting point is 01:02:56 of America, which runs a PGA championship. But the sentiment of what we're saying is, but basically we're getting a convergence of the worst kind of fan already that attends events, like a team event, like the Ryder Cup. People treat it like it's a NASCAR event and you can do whatever you want because it's a team and it's you have a team to root against and then you're also converging that with the New York fans in 2024. Did you just call NASCAR a team event? No, babe it's it no it's like NASCAR fans act crazier. Well they do have teams in NASCAR. That's a good idea. He's on the next lot. That was a loose, loose, safe, and the Hendrix racing.
Starting point is 01:03:27 I stand by that. All right, well, I want to make a quick transition here, because we've been talking about the players a lot, and somebody sent a tweet that kind of shook me up that I'd love to share with you guys. You slept with your eyes wide open last night. I did, so I don't actually remember who sounded in, but they had like a parody account anyways.
Starting point is 01:03:47 But basically what he said was, or she was a parody account, said was, I'm really waiting for the PGA of America to wake up in a cold sweat and realize that this, like they basically like, this move to May is going to eventually make the players' championship have more grovy toss or more acclaimed than the PGA championship.
Starting point is 01:04:12 And at first I was like, that's, there's no way the PGA is a major. The more I thought about it, the more I was kinda like, man, that's a really interesting exercise to go through, we'll carry this. And then you keep thinking about it and you're like, yeah, that's absolutely, because I thought I was the biggest proponent of, hey, let's, you know, let's move this, let's do this.
Starting point is 01:04:32 It's going to make it more relevant, less of an afterthought at the end of the schedule and all that. Yeah, Glorys last shot or whatever. And yeah, season championships, man. What do you really think about it? Tell me, what, what did the PGA of American gain with this move? And what did the PGA tour gain? It's two different questions. So I think the golf fan still went out with the new schedule,
Starting point is 01:04:53 but at the question being, what did the PGA and championship gain? I still think it's great for everybody. Yeah. All right, sorry. I still think it's great for fans. I think it's great for golf at large. I prefer it. But I think the PGA of America may have traded away
Starting point is 01:05:04 like one of their biggest assets. Correct. I agree. I have a hard time seeing large. I prefer it. But I think the PGA of America may have traded away like one of their biggest assets. Correct. I agree. I have a hard time seeing the players overtaking it just because I think the masters will always be the first major. So as long as the players comes before the masters, like I guess in direct relation to the PGA, maybe it's,
Starting point is 01:05:20 but I don't think it's never gonna be truly a major because the majors start with a gusto. I think it comes back to what truly a major because major start with a guest though. I think it comes back to what's the identity of the PGA as well. Agreed, right? So it used to be that crazy-ass finished- where you didn't know what was gonna happen in August. And I feel like it's also taking away from one of their primary events
Starting point is 01:05:38 where you scoot the schedule even farther away from the rider cup and you kind of segregate that even more from the main season, there's going to be a eight or nine week gap between the tour championship and the rider cup versus. It just feels like they probably should have waited to do this. I feel like because some of the first ones that are going to be in May are in very mild climates.
Starting point is 01:06:03 It's kind of like part of the issue of moving it out of August is to get out of humidity. Like, Belri was a disaster in the in weather and now they're going to Memphis. And I think you had like some May weather at Beth Bay today and that made it way more exciting. I agree. I'm all for the elements. I think that makes it so much better. So I think that helps for sure. But when you really start looking at them, like head to head and you take away and acknowledge the semantics difference, like one is a major, one is very much not a major. Look at the other assets that they have
Starting point is 01:06:34 and it's kind of like, the field is the same or is kind of a toss up. In which way? Of course, it's more interesting. The TPC sawgrass is I think way more interesting and better than all of those major or all of those PGA venues that you listed off earlier. The TV product for the players is infinitely better than the PGA.
Starting point is 01:06:56 The first is bigger which one are the players more the players are for the well, they're more incentivized to give the shit because it's coming out of their pockets. Yeah. They own the player's championship versus the PGA of America is just kind of leaching off of them. I think you were saying earlier, Salah. It's like when it's the last major of the year,
Starting point is 01:07:14 it's almost like relevant by default where it's kind of like, you got no more mails in the next eight years. Yeah, exactly. Or eight months. It's kind of like, all right, well, let's see who wins the last one. Whereas here, it just like, it felt like if you were a casual fan, like you could have really easily skipped this week.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Yeah. But it does let you wrap the season up earlier, which I think we all like a little bit. Totally. The venue though, Frisco could be a big wild card here. Exactly. That's the biggest thing. The biggest thing.
Starting point is 01:07:40 I think more so than the time of year, I think putting it at really interesting venues is a more important lever that PGA could utilize. If I think more so than the time of year, I think putting it at really interesting then uses, a more important lever the PGA could utilize. I think and maybe they're totally thinking about this, but like moving it to like a stock PGA championship location and hopefully if the Frisco course turns out to be awesome, maybe that's what they're thinking. I was just gonna get that.
Starting point is 01:08:00 That would be sick. I think that'd be awesome. I had not thought of it until he literally just had mentioned Frisco's like, whoa, what if it like, what if the course is incredible? Yeah. I'm like, that's part of the identity. Yeah. Yeah, but the odds are against that, right? I mean, I know Gil long way out if that does happen. I mean, they have they have venues announced for 2031, I think, or something like that. So,
Starting point is 01:08:18 it seems like they could take that away too if they had to, right? I don't know. Sure. They have been surprised. I'd be surprised. But we'll approach that in 11 years, 12 years. So someone else asked this on the live show. I thought it was a really good question. But if A, let's talk about like what is the identity of the PGA and what would you like to see the identity B? And then B, if you're gonna move it to one course, like what would the one course be?
Starting point is 01:08:41 Throwing the first go course out, because we don't know what it looks like. Belberry for sure. You see how great that major was last year. A lot of fans. They asked us on the live show and I didn't have a good answer for it for as much as much as he's been given every PGA course. You think there'd be one at the top of our like, you guys just have to be a PGA course.
Starting point is 01:08:59 No, who's a USGA course is a hypothetical. We said the first one I thought of is pine hers. I'll be like that. That would be an awesome venue every single year. I think. Yeah. That's a really good. That's one of the coolest courses to watch professionals play. It's doesn't have thick rough, but you have to drive in the fairway. You're playing out of native area the whole time. And it's hardest how to hit on those greens. Like it has all of the balance of a lot of the elements that I think make golf really exciting. It just sucks the kind of way with the last major we saw there.
Starting point is 01:09:23 I'm still an international guy I know it's p.j.a. America, and I know that doesn't serve their members The other one that I'd like to see I wanted to see the new greens and everything but I'm a sucker for West Coast majors. I think chambers Bay. Yeah, that's interesting and It would certainly be exciting. There's short par fours. There's horrible par fuzz. And the conditioning would be better in May than in June.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Exactly. Interesting. I think maybe more so than course, and I agree with all the ones you've said, I would love to see them go to, I think the way they really could establish identity is go to a blend of stroke play and a match play. Yeah. I think the way they really could establish an identity is go to a blend of stroke play and a match play. Yeah. I think it would be really cool.
Starting point is 01:10:09 I hate match play. But I think it would be so different. Like they hate match play when it doesn't matter. When someone's going to win like the Walter Hagen Cup or whatever the match play trophy is. You know, it's like they like, they like it during the Ryder Cup. Yeah. It was a major. It was Brooks versus Dustin like for the PJ Championship.
Starting point is 01:10:24 You could truly have, I feel like we're losing some of the yeah, how many majors does it been since somebody's one one from way back from an underdog spot too. Tiger and last major. No, well, yeah, but even Tiger was, you know, oh, you mean like a sleeper before the tour. Exactly. It's like truly getting somebody who makes a run, even if it's not, if that sweet 16 guy, or the, you know, it's like that kind of captivates people's imaginations. Some people were sending an ideas on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:10:55 I think like one identity that would be very simple, I think would be just making it only going to public off courses, I think would be kind of in line with a lot of their supposed messaging messaging national golf links field trip aside But I think that the like that would be an interesting one I think they were spouting off a lot of that on the telecast this week like Beth Page is very accessible blah blah blah. I think that would be something that would be kind of cool chambers They would fit with that pine yours would fit with that plus we get Gary player on every year to talk about chambers
Starting point is 01:11:23 They yeah, exactly. Morning, David. Morning, David. Skyhound Design, this course must have had one leg shorter than the other. But yeah, I don't know. I'm really, really, really rooting for the Frisco course to be, like, to knock our socks off. Let's get to some shout outs and then it's Throne's Time, baby. Who's going to be the one to say the letter A we have on the list here? I can't. Wow.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Jazz, Jan and Watananon. That was perfect. Yeah, that was great. That was great. That was great. It was great. 23 years old. It's been professional for nine years.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Awesome swing. It was not even making fun of the broadcast. This is not a coverage take. I was getting such a kick on Saturday out of, let's go over to jazz. On the 17th, they would think about saying his name every time. Like someone who walks to the end of the diving board. They're like, no, I'm not gonna do.
Starting point is 01:12:14 You could tell they practiced it all night because they dropped his name about 25 times on Sunday. That was impressive to watch. That was fun to watch. He was great. It would have been cool. Again, it's kind of a golf course thing probably, but like by the second half of today, you know, it's like, dude, he's not coming from behind to run this thing down, but on a different golf course, it would have been cool to see him,
Starting point is 01:12:34 kind of be in the mix a little more. My last one, Rory finishing T8 after I tweeted on Friday afternoon that he had missed the cut. He was so pretty disrespect. He was seven over par. First of all, he's my pick to win. Very dewy versus true mid cut. I think that one came out. Ferrari, Mrs. Cutts, Sally, a little bit of news favorite. First of all, it's kind of bagged that bottle. We just administer a misinformation.
Starting point is 01:12:56 I heard a lot from aged well Twitter, which might be one of my favorite Twitter's out there. Oh, yeah, this aged well. So yeah, those are my shout out. You're a wine guy. Yeah. All right, I'm gonna give a shout out to some friends of the pod, Adam Shalong, Max Holma, Kierdeck,
Starting point is 01:13:14 Albee Bonret, Matt Fitzpatrick. It's a big, big three. I wouldn't have thought that Matt Fitzpatrick was gonna play relatively well at Bethpage. And then reverse shout out to the D.B. Strayvibon, who he was in the money spot after the first two days. Holy seven back.
Starting point is 01:13:40 No, I mean, but yeah, but relatively speaking. And then he shot 78, 78 on the weekend. That's not gonna get done, guys. He and Kebke battling down the stretch would have been a pretty good theater. That would have been the best theater. Kebke beat the shit out of him. Decidedly not vibing on the weekend.
Starting point is 01:13:58 I don't know if Randy's gonna do it. I think he's got some other stuff on the list, but I'll give a shout out to another friend of the pod George Cancass, good showing by his stable, Sun Kang going win and then top 10 in the major. Keep backbanks. Keep Kang's name off the pod.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Plus Big Randy had a nice afternoon driving the ball into Andy. Randy's driving the ball great. Danny Lee could have used some improvement on the weekend, but played well early. And then also, I saw this was aad to the list, but I was shout out to John Romp for taking a leak in the background of that,
Starting point is 01:14:29 that does the Johnson shot. I think that was pretty good. So I can't believe I dropped the ball in this. I put on Instagram and did like a dumb caption with it. I was like, oh, a feature group coverage really takes you inside and somebody nailed in the comments, live streaming. Yeah, that was good.
Starting point is 01:14:43 That was good. Yeah, next time. Randy, you got any shout outs? I do. I'm gonna take it away from the PGA if that's all right. Yeah, that was good. Yeah, next time. Randy, you got any shout outs? I do. I'm going to take it away from the PGA if that's all right. Oh, please. Shout out to the Florida Tech Women Panthers of the four-program D2 national champions. They, and I believe it was Beth Ann Nichols
Starting point is 01:15:02 who had a great write-up. That's the article I read. Their program was canceled by the athletic department earlier this year, and then they promptly went out and won their first national championship in school history. Is it uncancelled now? No. They, they, apparently, like, the day... I don't know when the tournament wraps, sometime earlier this week or maybe even last weekend.
Starting point is 01:15:25 The website had already scrubbed the women's golf from the athletics page. Like it's done. Where is Florida's at? So they, it was a walkoff or it was a complete walkoff. Yeah. Whoa. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:36 So I thought that was, you know, it's kind of sad, I guess, in a way, but congrats to those ladies and in and in style. Wanted to give a shout out to to Helen Alfredson just one of the US senior women's open up at pine needles pine needles look sweet. It looked awesome delicious presentation up there Yeah, and she said she she may skip the US women's open Which is pretty sweet. That's like the Brooks thing Country Club at Charleston. You gotta go play that. I know.
Starting point is 01:16:06 I know. And a shout out last one, I think, unless you guys have any other to chain-based. Shake and that's what I was gonna do. Yeah, it's got to you. Take it away. Well, by the time this goes up, he's playing in the sectional qualifier
Starting point is 01:16:17 for the US Open in Dallas, and that's actually where we're on our way to. So. Are you gonna go out and see him? We're gonna try. We might be a little fair weather. We might see how he does in the first 18. We're landing on this during his second 18.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Hopefully he acts like a pro in WD's if he's not gonna bake it. That's the best part of the section. It's so classy when you guys do that, right? What's the deal with the Yardage books? They only, apparently they printed a hundred of them and they were giving them out to players and caddies and they ran out of them.
Starting point is 01:16:44 So he's just gonna, and I have to be stepping off some yardages up there, so I can freewheel it. The USG is ahead of the game. So weird, it's so cool to see Shane in the same field as Martin Laird, Spencer LeVide. Like all these like, two or a few of us that we've been watching for 15 years.
Starting point is 01:16:59 Which the deck is stacked against him, but imagine how cool it would be if he played in the US Open and broadcasts at the same time. I don't know, I don't know. I would do it. He would do both, which would be if he played in the S.O.P. and broadcasts at the same time. He would do it. He would do both. Which would be absolutely awesome. So I mean, he's already gained some major street cred for coming out of
Starting point is 01:17:13 locals but even that would be unlimited street cred if he makes the S.O.P. Do you want to go on the record with any throw-ins predictions before you watch it? No. Come on. Come on. Give us one. It's like pick the one player who won't win.
Starting point is 01:17:24 Pick the one person who will be on come on. I'm so it's like pick the one player who won't win pick the one got the one person who will be on the throne No tell you pick the one person who won't won't be on the throne. Oh, that's good. Uh ghost. I don't know what that means. It's John's nose dire wolf You make me do this with golf all the time. All right. All right. Well ending the plot of this So if you are not I'm too much out of that yet to do that. I can't end it. Two more shouts. Two more shouts. Spoilers out there.
Starting point is 01:17:51 I guess I don't know yet. I don't think Danny's going to make it through. First shot out, Lucas Glover. He's not top 30 in the FedEx Cup. He went through, he went through WebTour finals last year. Like he, the guy was in a dark place. Yeah, that's great. And then also shout out to Jason Coakrack. We talked about a little bit on the live show earlier,
Starting point is 01:18:09 has not missed a cut since, wherever they had the British Open last year. Last year's PJJP. God, hey. It's a press. No, last year's British Open. I was joking, because he's a club player. He's the guy, it was more fleshed out on the live show, but he's the guy, the professional golfer
Starting point is 01:18:27 that looks the most like. Where would you be a club pro? Where was the British Open last year? It was at Carnusti. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Frankie. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Frankie won. So, all right, we good to wrap it at that. Well, you got to hear your own signature. I'm gonna hear your own signature. I said that, Danny. It won't be Danny. Okay. Danny Lee.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Yeah. It won't be exactly. Exactly. So Danny Lee. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. So, thanks for a fun week. This was really fun. Thanks for tuning to the live show. And stay tuned. We got some good stuff coming from colonial this week. We're heading out there. Got some good videos and another podcast
Starting point is 01:18:57 hitting later this week. And some good stuff from onsite. And if you're out of colonial, we're gonna try to do a meetup on Thursday afternoon somewhere. Location to be determined. sentence suggests throwback Thursday. Throwback Thursday, it's coming. Charles Swap Challenge, that's where we'll be next.
Starting point is 01:19:11 We out. Cheers! Cheers! We're home. Let's get it right club. Be the right club today. Yes! Yeah!
Starting point is 01:19:22 That is better than most. How about in? That is better than most. Better than most. you

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