No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 229: Matt Wolff wins the 3M! Irish Open Recap, and listener questions

Episode Date: July 8, 2019

Matt Wolff wins the 3M with an eagle on the 18th, edging Bryson Dechambeau and Colin Morikawa. We talk about everything from Minnesota, the Presidents Cup team, Jon Rahm winning the Irish Open at Lahi...nch, WGC's in Ireland, and a ton more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to be the right club today. That's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Battle the most Ladies and gentlemen welcome back to the no leg up podcast Matthew Wolf hello world welcome. He's here. He's arrived. He's here. It didn't take very long You called the wolf shit, man, you know someone tweeted at me, let's not start sucking each other's dicks quite yet, which I thought at first I was like,
Starting point is 00:00:50 God, that's like, I don't know. I'm pretty excited. I was like, oh, that's for pull fiction. Okay, I get it. I was like, wait, this is like actually the perfect time to do that, right? I mean, I know. That's what I was thinking. I was all fired up about it. We are kind of spread out in a lot of different places this week. To be honest, we're kind of wasn't really planning on doing much pro golf recap, but Matt Wolfchains those plans a bit today. We got DJ Pie in the car. Emergency 3M Open podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:16 I can safely say this is the first ever emergency 3M Open podcast. It's ever been recorded, but DJ on his way back to Jacks. I got to be honest, dude. I had a choice today of choosing what golf I could watch. I could really only watch one of the two and I got up early and made some coffee and had some breakfast and watched a lot of the Irish Open this morning and was playing a practice round during the 3M and had to flip it on CBS app, which I got to say was actually a pretty decent experience.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Is that what how you took it in today? Yeah, you know, no free ads, but I watched it on the CBS app myself. Well, my wife was kind enough to drive. I was taking the pledge in the front seat and watching on my front. Yeah, it was a delightful experience. It was, it's a bit of a bummer to see the same. Whatever, we don't have to get into nice try. I'm not getting into coverage.
Starting point is 00:02:02 That's not it. It's you're out of the out of the state currently so it's safe 14 hours of a little weirdy nice try. It's like it'll work today. Hi, I almost had you but It actually really it I thought it was going to be like 50 different buttons to get to it And actually was not that not that bad to get into so I was Supposedly surprised by that totally fine You know what I actually could have used today? That I did not ever think that I would say out loud? The shark experience.
Starting point is 00:02:29 They would have paid off great for the final round of the 3M. The shark Ponzi scheme as a deal and I thought it was called Buddha at Ohio Valley. Yeah, I think we pointed that out in tourist house, but I was reluctantly, it was one of the more embarrassed moments on the course. I was I was reluctantly pretty in on the shark experience Yeah, well we're gonna have to get past it. Yeah All right, so
Starting point is 00:02:54 I again I wanted to start with Lehench, but let's go straight to to Matt Wolf 20 years old third pro start fourth ever PGA tour start you saw this coming right? Totally yeah, no, I knew it was gonna be less than five starts for sure third pro start, fourth ever PGA tour start. You saw this comment, right? Totally. Yeah, no, I knew it was going to be less than five starts, for sure. A lot of revisionists, historians on Twitter, wherever, whatever stuff like this comes up, like, oh gosh, you know, I watched, you know, I watched five minutes of this college
Starting point is 00:03:18 tournament a couple months ago. And like, oh, you know, this guy's a phenomenal talent. Oh, okay, cool. Thanks. But, you know, if you look at the stat line, you could see something coming. I don't think anybody was brave enough to say that they saw this coming.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Coming out and winning that way in that short of time. But yeah, I mean, everybody knew he was going to be studed. But winning's really, really, really, really hard. And pulling one off that quickly is literally mind blowing to me. I mean, I almost like don't even think it's been, I know I've been driving and kind of checked out, but almost feels like people didn't like make it a big enough
Starting point is 00:03:54 deal about him being in the final group in Morakawa as well. I mean, it's nuts. I don't even know how to kind of put it into work. People are, it's mid-summer. This is probably the hardest time for I to get eyeballs on your product for the PGA tour. I would imagine, especially July 4th weekend and whatnot. But I agree. It's kind of like, whoa, this is the final, the final pairing, but it did, it going into today. It felt like one of those, and Bryson tried to play the villain. He,
Starting point is 00:04:19 it felt like one of those days was like, okay, like they'll, they'll fade a little bit. Like there's going to be, there's enough guys in the running that I doubt the winner's going to come from the last group. And more Coway shot 66 and Wolf shot 65 making a putt from off the green on the 72nd hole for Eagle to win despite, I mean, I don't know what would have happened if it didn't go in, but Nick Fowdo wanted that ball to slow down. He was a little worried about the comeback. Yeah, I mean, I don't know,'t know man it was questionable as usual today on the
Starting point is 00:04:47 on the the broadcast we don't have to believe in that point you know we have great ball it's great of course is a plenty to talk about we don't need to get it well one one one broadcaster friend of ours always gave us a tip that said you know never call a ball while it's moving they never try to like say what a ball is doing. Like it's going to stop it pretty soon. Like we'll figure out what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:05:08 I love those abs. It's kind of the big, it's the big, uh, the big Randy Colossary, right? Like, you know, I don't know what's going to happen, but it's going to be fun to watch. We'll see. We're all watching the same thing. We're going to find out at the same time. Like it's going to be fun. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Exactly. What was your reaction when Bry and hit the shot on 18 uh... just kind of like i don't know where it was like reluctance uh... excitement i guess like i obviously was writing really really hard for wolf and more cowah and brison kind of found himself in you know even bigger billen rolled in usual today and that like
Starting point is 00:05:41 uh... but i mean it was a pretty from all the all shot But I felt like, but I mean it was a pretty fun all-in-a-little golf shot. It was hard to be like, you know, it's hard to just be like, basically, super upset. I mean, I didn't, I didn't curse or swear or anything. I mean, it was, it wasn't preferred,
Starting point is 00:05:55 but it was still pretty cool to say it. Maybe that's kind of a cop out, I don't know. Should I have done more than that? No, I mean, it was, I don't root against Bryson, but like, my reaction was just the same as I said on Twitter. Like, dude, like, not now. Like i don't root against bryson but like my reaction was just the same exact set on twitter like dude like not now like don't do this like it this you winning is the least good story of all of this and if more cala or wolf one that was like what we need it yeah he's a cop
Starting point is 00:06:17 he's got a lot of the great uh... the more cala wolf i'm carrying and like that was there have not been many non-major Sunday mornings that I've woke it up and been like, God, I'm actually really excited to watch it all today. And actually going through the cases, you know, figuring out how to stream it on my phone while driving, like, there's not that many tournaments that I would have done that for
Starting point is 00:06:41 this year. And I don't know what that speaks to or how in depth we wanna break that down, but it's a good feeling. Well, correct me if I'm wrong. Again, I was thinking this as we were watching those swings coming down the stretch and how they absolutely nothing changed in their demeanor. I get that they're professionals
Starting point is 00:07:03 but they haven't been pros that long, but I get they've been in crazy pressure situation they've played at the top amateur levels and there are seasoned veterans at this point, not quite on that stage but they just, the moment didn't even seem remotely big for them. Do you, I swear, I remember a time period where like young guys got rattled in those situations.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Am I crazy am I remembering that right? Yeah, no, I think it all went away with Jordan speech. It's the whole that bunker shot at John Deere. Yeah. No young people are ever there. That's what it seems like though. Yeah, it's crazy. The only time it looks shaky at all, at least that I thought was, you know, I flipped it on yesterday when he was, you know, I kind of had the 59. I'm kind of flirting with 59 a little bit and as soon as he was kind of going crazy low with only a couple of a couple of holes left, he kind of started hitting blue. I'm kind of flirting with 59 a little bit, and as soon as he was going to go crazy low with only a couple of holes left,
Starting point is 00:07:47 he kind of started hitting blue shots, maybe flared when I do a bunker or something, but then comes right back in 30, they hit the finish of the day yesterday, and then he has gotten today. I mean, he was in rock solid the entire day. It was incredible. He looked like he'd been out there for 10 years.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Well, I definitely was not the biggest fan of that golf course. And coming down the stretch though, there are just some shots you got to hit with some major stones. I mean, I don't find water that interesting of a hazard for pros to navigate. But man, those guys hitting like more cowas approach into 18. I mean, he hit the proper shot. He had like a cut five iron that had to look absolutely flagged from there.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Wolf kind of, he kind of seems to lean on the draw quite a bit and hit a draw when that shot definitely called for a fade and it went long left. But obviously he drained it. In more cow, both more cow was putts on 17. That was in. I don't know how that one missed. And he couldn't have missed by much less with his putt on 18. That's got to be, first good as he's played. He's got to be like
Starting point is 00:08:46 kicking it. I don't know like a pretty frustrated for like whoa, dude. I played that good and still didn't win. Yeah, I mean he obviously had a couple early bogies. He can point to it, but I don't know if that's nerves or whatever, but yeah, I mean the fact that he kind of dusted himself off and picked himself back up after that is just yeah i mean the fact that he kind of just himself often take himself back up after that it's just like it speak even more to you know like he said at the beginning of the day we're trying to waiting for you guys to get rattled and you know almost giving up up free like a free approved path you don't like a lot of the issue seventy five something
Starting point is 00:09:17 deal you know i'm gonna think of that you guys and he goes out and make a couple of these and then just once the switch to couple of other drop and then just gap level switch, keeps a couple plugs to drop and then just gas pedal from there. I don't know how many more cliches I can work into that. He shot 30 on the back with a lip out on 17 and almost equal 18. I know, it's insane. And more of a cowl, I think, has kind of been one of the, you know, kind of the forgotten man of this class, he's like with Paul Wendon Wolf kind of stacking up so many wins and
Starting point is 00:09:44 playing to the same team and all that stuff. I think your eye naturally goes to those guys, but Morkhalla has been pretty much locked step with them relatively and getting to see his game on full display and granted it because he was in the last year, it's not like anyone really kind of did their due diligence prepping for these guys all that much, but you know that was a treat to be able to watch a ton of those guys today. We needed to get a, we needed to get Bryson to measure the terminal velocity on his jaw drop after he found out wolfhold that put. He was, he turned to get a little bit of that. It was kind of fun. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:26 It was a guilty pleasure to. He was so clearly the guy that everybody was rooting against in that area, which I guess is unfortunate for him, but certainly he stacked up enough items to have earned it. Him complaining about slow play during Saturday's round was like, was maybe one of my favorite moments of the year like holy shit Dude like look at least somewhat inward on this like how can you not yeah you can't get frustrated with slow play and be one of the slowest players Yeah, that was a tough look the whole like you know, I know people think people think I'm slow But you know like it was so hard to get into a rhythm out there So yeah, I saw every fucking player feel man, like, it was so hard to get into a rhythm out there. But yeah, that's how every fucking player feels, man.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Like, what are you thinking? Well, on Saturday, he was playing the 18th hole. And granted, there were people on the green. I kind of wish he was she on how I feel about this, usually depending on how I feel about the player, but he goes to get a drop where he could be because he says, on my layup shot here, I'm going to be standing on, I assumed it was a sprinkle head, they didn't really show it. Uh, if I lay up here, like, I'm going to be standing on this and he gets a drop
Starting point is 00:11:32 and then all of a sudden, but he gets, uh, you know, he drops it twice and then gets to place it and now he's going for the green. The whole thing, there were people on the green, it wasn't waiting the whole time, but the whole thing took six minutes to drop a ball and for him to hit his shot and i get it he was in the last group it didn't really matter but it fell outside like the cut like the TV coverage had to stay long just to show their group play the last hole because of how long he took to hit his approach into the green and he was the one complaining about slow play that was that was like a tie-in chef kissing hands
Starting point is 00:12:01 right there so it was beautiful that's the kind of stuff and I'm not sure that I saw the exact drop that you're talking about, but that kind of stuff where it's just a simple like hey, I'm taking relief from this sprinkler head or I'm taking a stance here or whatever Like that's the kind of stuff that should be so rudimentary to take a drop, but people are so gun shy about the replay stuff and having cameras on them and the amount of money that they play for and everything that's like i don't know that's a really easy corporate fix at least some of the phone is up there is like to just take your own drops well i think he knew it was shady that's why he had a rules official come because i got all right well i'm gonna get away with it
Starting point is 00:12:38 have a little more leeway to be like no this is shady don't do it yes we'll take that off like i'm not a big fool guy. I'm quickly out of my desk, that's a rule. You're going to run out of things to have takes on here. If you're not going to talk about the coverage, you're not going to talk about the rules. Well, I'm just low-key. Like, I don't have any expertise.
Starting point is 00:12:55 So that's what I'm trying to dance around. None of us have expertise in any of this. How do you think we're doing this? We just bought microphones. That's true. I'm going to say this is a very throwback. Throw, I can't, I, you know, sneak away and I feel like I'm going to call you into episode, you know, change something.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Well, you're still going through it. You're going through a tough, you know, a tough service area. So it probably does sound a lot like episode 17 or whatever that is. But I don't want to do it because I feel like everyone's going to start doing over under career wins for Matt Wolf when he's 20 years old. But I mean, we're talking like superstar, right?
Starting point is 00:13:38 I mean, this was, I don't want to say we needed this, but I was, another just like Ches Revy wins, no offense to Ches Revy. Wasn't going to do we needed this, but I was, I, another just like, Ches Revy wins, no offense to Ches Revy, wasn't going to do it for me this week. Like, I needed kind of something to reignite some excitement and Matt Wolf, like, it seems to be the guy and Twitter doesn't get that, has not been getting excited about golf this summer.
Starting point is 00:13:56 And this, this afternoon was palpable. Well, at first I'll know if it's anybody. No, of course never. And, yeah, no, I, I told it, never. And yeah, no, I told it. And that's what I mean. That's what I was kind of saying about being so excited to tune in. It's like, man, there's just a lot of guys who look the same
Starting point is 00:14:12 and walk the same and talk the same, and swing the same. And like, that's not an accident that gets old week after week after week, especially when you're not changing the format, especially when you're not really changing the golf courses. You know, it's like, I know that these events have kind of local flavor when you're on the ground, but until some of that shines through, and this is, I guess, kind of a cover statement, until that shines through on the TV, like, it doesn't really matter. Like, it's pretty much TPC anywhere every week, and which is fine, like, it's that, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:43 that's the kind of courses that they need to have for infrastructure requirements and all that stuff. Like I get all that, but it doesn't make it any more exciting to watch to the eye. So yeah, I'm completely with you. I mean, personally, I needed a bit of a golf lifeboat this week, and I was happy that Matt Wolfe and Morcaulon and even Bryce a little bit were able to provide that. So it was a great a great couple of hours back watching all. Well, which again, like I don't think we've had on a non-major
Starting point is 00:15:15 Sunday probably since I mean at least since you know, painting open, it's fun to watch a rory, but outside of that it's been a pretty tough scene. The toughest scene, but I think for Wolf, if there was ever somebody who, I don't want to say earned or deserve a little bit of leeway for coming out of like, all right, let's give this guy a little time to develop because a decent amount of people, I don't want to say a lot of people. I think it's kind of a fall, I don't know, false flag to turn for it, but I feel like some people like, man, so a lot of people saying his swing wouldn't hold up at this level. I don't know if false flag the term for it, but I feel like some people are like, man, so a lot of people saying his swing wouldn't hold up at this level. So I don't think that, I don't think that many people
Starting point is 00:15:48 are holding up, but like there was a question mark for like how he would come out. And he came out like a little bit shaky and he made a caddy change already. He had fired JP Fitzgerald, who was a course on right back. Yeah, the public, public for JP. That was gonna say gosh, how many careers is JP gonna
Starting point is 00:16:02 ruin? But, yeah, that was the public. I think like, I don't know, wolf, I don't know him very well, really at all, but he seems to be a guy that's very easy to root for and very likable and just like a cool dude and doesn't wanna get too technical out in the golf course. He just likes to chat up his caddy and like talk about anything except golf
Starting point is 00:16:21 and just has fun out there and seems to really just let it fly. And I think he even said, the tour had kind of clipped it or I saw it on Instagram, he had said something about, you know, I'm just gonna, I told my caddy this week, I'm just gonna send it. They clipped the best part of it. He's like, I think the first couple tournaments,
Starting point is 00:16:37 I was actually being a bit too strategic and he was like thinking his way around the course too much which I think was probably the meme you used of Bryson just like sitting there frustrated, unable to get a word out. Like it's gotta just drive Bryson absolutely nuts. But the way it works for him is just to send it. And you know, with PGA Tour golf courses, you don't have to be that strategic,
Starting point is 00:16:57 like hitting it really far and just sending it and stuffing wedges in there is gonna win you a lot, a lot, a lot of money. And it's also gonna win you a golf, a lot, a lot of money and it's also going to win you a golf tournament in your fourth ever PGA Tour start. Totally. And that's where I think it'll be, you know, and that's where you get into, you know, how many wins and how many majors and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Like, obviously, it'll be more fun to see him play some more majors and we can get to the open qualifying series in a second, revisit that discussion. But, you know, there are certain golf courses and certain tournaments where that just let it fly style is not going to probably work so well. But the cool thing is now we've got two years of job security. He's got all this stuff to just kind of figure out the rest and figure out how to get more comfortable
Starting point is 00:17:41 and how to get more strategic, how to ease into that kind of stuff if he even wants to. Or maybe he can just keep kind of sending it forever and that'll be his style. But yeah, like his vibe is just like so easy to connect with. And I don't know if it's maybe just the tailor made stuff he's got decked out in and like the beard and everything, but he just seems like an excited Justin Johnson out there, which is like, I kept looking at him, I was like, I kept on taking it. On that exact note, now that you mentioned that, go over to our YouTube channel, Callaway
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Starting point is 00:18:56 get bumped up on that guy so thank you DJ Pye for all the hard work you put into that one. Oh right come on, it's a good time for you. I reckon you'd help the people in your role player. You're like Ches, you're Ches Revy. That's exactly right. So, I was going to say I know that I've been kind of wearing out the Rudy, uh, gifs and references lately, but I would, if Stock Redden went to the RNA and laid it seriously down, uh, to give his spot in the open to, uh, battle, I think that'd be the right thing to do. Yeah, after arguing for the Open Chit qualifying series last episode or last week, I have a hard time being like, wait a second, did he not qualify for it?
Starting point is 00:19:37 And how did he not? But you know what, can I sneak in a coverage take with this? I was a little worried that he did qualify. So the graphic came up, the CBS graphic came up that said that he qualified for 2020 Masters NPGA. And I was like, dude, if he qualified for the open in two weeks and they didn't put it up there because they don't host the open, I am going to be so mad. But by all accounts, he is not in, he's going to have to win or they're giving away one final spot. final spot yeah for the john deer classic whoever finishes high school in john
Starting point is 00:20:07 deer classic that is not already qualified gets in so i i wouldn't put it past in the run it back next week well i know that john daily's part got tonight and it can give him you know give that spot a match you will he decides not to point oh god that would be to that would make way too much sense i think it should be special exemption season
Starting point is 00:20:25 sponsor it is a sponsor exception her majesty the queen who is the tournament is brought to you by uh... needs to give a sponsor's exemption to met wolf to the british open uk british open presented by her majesty i agree that's really good people fired up who say that we're uh... very short-sighted and by a source young golfers again another point to like,
Starting point is 00:20:46 and I know we talked about with Nate Lashley getting in as an alternate last week, but Matthew Wolf and Colin Markawa were sponsors exemptions this week. And I know it's kind of that it is sponsor exemption SCN for all of the college, the recent college graduates because there's, you know, the summer vencer is looking for a little help
Starting point is 00:21:05 filling out those fields, hoping to earn some good will from those guys and keeping coming back once they're household names. But the two sponsors exemptions were in the last in the final pairing and finished first and second tie with Bryson Morecawa did. That's pretty nuts. Yeah, that's pretty, you know, shout out to the tournament team. I know it's not really the healthiest decision to pick, you know, wolf and Morecawa to give those spots to, tournament team I know it's not really the top decision to pick you know wolf and more cowboys to give those thoughts to but you know you still got to pull the trigger so gotta do it. We had a question
Starting point is 00:21:32 from Saber Caves that thoughts on Andrew Catalan always a fan of master stream added some life to a dud broadcast problem is the format of garbage production doesn't leave much room for improvement. Oh he was doing so good just being positive until the very end. But I actually, I thought Andrew Catelon was very strong. Can I be honest with you, I didn't even know that that was Andrew Catelon, but I think that's kind of the point, right? I think it doesn't really matter, who would it?
Starting point is 00:21:56 Well, it almost should just be functional. And I should have known because Andrew Catelon always gets relegated to do all the shini jack game on TV So like his voice should have sounded much more familiar, but yeah I thought he was so fine. It was better than McAtee, I would say so Yeah, I don't know if you saw that it fell to stuck a sticker on a name tag on them when they opened up the broadcast on Saturday afternoon As if it was a hilarious joke they opened up the broadcast on Saturday afternoon as it was hilarious joke. The joke was that he didn't know his name. And so that's why he put the name tag on his right chest. So it was, oh gosh, it was stitches. Anything to applaud the Prince jokes for a little while.
Starting point is 00:22:38 All right, do we have anything else from the 3M? The only thing I'll say, I couldn't tell you, I know the tournament's only been over for a couple hours now. I still couldn't tell you many of the golf holes that we saw out there. And that, maybe a stone problem, maybe not. But what I couldn't tell you is, it ended on a pretty cool, virtual part 5. I think that's the easiest way to redeem a golf course. How did you see it? You thought it Glenn Abbey as well?
Starting point is 00:23:06 It's like kind of these like Block golf courses that that people don't really remember but if they end on a reachable par five like the recipe for a good finish It's usually pretty much there. So I don't know not really a point one way or the other just Just something kind of interesting. Yeah. I mean, sure, it's just kind of manufactured drama, but it's, it's, but I think the whole, like the whole tour is kind of like manufactured drama. And that's true.
Starting point is 00:23:31 That's true. Well, I thought about this way where I was watching the Irish Open this morning is like, I was tuned in to watch that golf course. I mean, that's kind of why. And I think it's, it's such a risky model for the PGA tour to be like, okay, like you are not gonna tune in to see the setting of this place.
Starting point is 00:23:46 We are just gonna hope for drama. And we're gonna hope that's why you tune in. Like, there doesn't seem to be any other reason to tune in other than like, oh, it might get exciting. Like it might, here we go, it might, and it usually doesn't. Really, really true.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Yeah, that's totally true. I mean, like the Irish Open was not exciting today. Like John Rom was incredible. He shot 62 and won it by two, but it wasn't like super, super exciting. There wasn't drama on the 18th hole and I get definitely had a better finish to the 3M. I think the whole matter was that, you know, it feels like, it feels like birdie or double is you know it feels like it feels like birdie or double is looming on every one of those holes that at the age you know it felt like even when john robbers cruising
Starting point is 00:24:30 like it felt like you could make birdie and any of those any of those those coming in and it felt like you could make double on any of those holes coming in and like that's i think we keep you watching whereas like you know i never felt like anybody coming to his trash they was going to make a double you know no for sure i think so also like that put first of all we've talked we are
Starting point is 00:24:50 Ireland podcasts. I promise is most of it is recorded. We're going to finish the rest of it next week and that whole episode and a lot of people have been asking about our debrief from Ireland but specifically our experience at Lahinch. All that stuff is to come in later, but I had given some props to the golf channel for their blimp use today, with some of the blimp shots they had. I was corrected by something on the ground. They were in a plane.
Starting point is 00:25:14 There was a camera up in a plane flying around the site. Yeah, you're on tour to give a fuck. Oh, I don't give one single fuck, it's amazing. But I was wondering how they were, at the time when I thought it was a blimp, how it was give one single fuck, it's amazing. But I was wondering how they were like the, what I, at the time when I thought it was a blimp, how it was flying by so fast. But somebody manually operating that thing from a plane actually moving at a much faster speed
Starting point is 00:25:34 than a blimp and tracking the ball through the air. They showed Robert Rock's shot, getting ready to hit on the fourth hole, which is the Klondike, which is a par five for members and guests, and it's par four for-4 for the Tor Pros. But your approach is played just directly over this huge dune in the middle of the fairway.
Starting point is 00:25:51 And they showed him lining up over the dune, and then they show the shot from behind and trace the ball in the air, flying over the dune to this blind green. It was awesome. It was so cool. It was such a great way to show off the topography of the course, which is the whole idea.
Starting point is 00:26:05 I mean, what's the point of going to a course like that if you're not going to show off? I thought they didn't do a great job, actually, of showing the shot on the fifth hole, the Dell, the Blind Part III, which again, this place is nuts. It just has a completely blind part III, but they didn't show enough shots from behind the players on that one to see what they were looking at. I thought was a mild criticism I had, but man, LeHinch held up. I thought scores would be lower than they were. I know they reduced it to a par 70, but Ram shot 16 under.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Yeah, I saw it. I didn't see the Rob Iraq replay. That was one of the coolest things I've ever seen on a golf broadcast, I think. And the Ram, like, you know, it's hard scored and stuff. I mean, Ram 62 today, like, that should have the wrong like you know far scores and stuff I mean wrong 62 today like that should have been 62 you know like it wasn't because the golf course is easy that's because he he had fun a really good shot and did it for rock 60 the other day I mean so I didn't get to see it one of the Irish open this weekend unfortunately but catch me up like what what really showed
Starting point is 00:27:03 out what you, what were, kind of some of your favorite things you saw, take me there. Well, the first thing for me is just like the intrigue that goes into the tee shots, and it's not just like pounding driver. It's guys that are playing different kinds of shots and watching the ball run out.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And Lehntz especially takes driver out of your hand on a lot of holes and makes you play certain shots along the ground like the sixth hole. You don't want to hit driver because it runs down into this massive pit. The seventh hole, you probably don't want to hit driver depending on what the wind is doing. And just watching guys have to have to worry about the ball running out too far on certain lines. It just adds a whole other layer of intrigue.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Even the rough was really playable, but it was like you don't want to be in it, but you can recover from it and it's not ankle deep and it's not, you know, it doesn't cripple you for your next shot, but it's like no doubt you don't want to be in it. And a lot of short grass around the greens and pot bunkers that you just don't want to be in, which is stuff you don't see on the PGA tour. You see usually the bunkers on that are green side on the PGA tour are pretty easy to get out of and guys even aim for them on par fives and there's a lot of rough around the green that guys can slide a 60 degree wedge under pretty easily and watching rough of Cabrero's Cabrero Bayo's chip on the sixth hole today. A lot of people are blowing up tron on it just for no reason, just like that it looked like a tron chip, but
Starting point is 00:28:19 honestly it looked like he tried, he had to go directly over this little pot bunker from actually a tight lie, like a fairway lie. And it just looked like he intentionally chipped it into the bunker, like it wasn't even close. And it was like that. And watching John Rom kind of hit a somewhat similar shot, one that didn't make it all the way up to the green on the reachable par 413th hole today, that was just like, this is why I'm watching golf
Starting point is 00:28:42 this morning because it was so fun to watch. One, it was, it has a different kind of nostalgic feeling just because we had just been there and it was while we were there, like, dude, I cannot wait to watch the pros play this golf course. Because it's so different. It's very unique and just so different than what we're used to seeing. We only get really like three weeks a year where we get to watch guys play Lynx Golf, and maybe four weeks a year if of course if you're kind of the Dunhill. But this is, and you know, the Renee Saunce or in Scotland next week isn't like the most linksy course from what I gather. We've not been there. But this in Port Rush are like our
Starting point is 00:29:13 looks at it this year. And I just wish, it made you just wish. And God, those, the top players in the world should have been there this week. And I don't like hey guys sack up go over and play the Irish open it's like no how do we mess up this w gc things so badly that we can't even get an on a links course like one time like there's no mix up there's no mixture to it there's no variety and why that we're just not going to see like Tiger Woods play any other golf on links golf courses other than the British open presenter by our Majesty. Yeah I mean not to derail the conversation too much but it really makes you just kind of pine for you know the world tour. Yeah you know whenever the whatever the mystical world tour will be put together and everybody absorbs
Starting point is 00:30:00 everybody and and all of that yeah I would think that hopefully there'd be some more some more links to all of them there. But again, like, I did this is where everybody comes actually for sponsorship dollars aren't there and all of those things. I don't know, say a lot of the cash rules that are in your army, that's because. I mean, I agree.
Starting point is 00:30:18 I mean, I know that. I know that there's a reason why it's in Memphis this year. And that's where FedEx has had quarter in FedEx. One of the debuts is like, it's not hard to piece together. So that's the reason why I's in Memphis this year, and that's where the FedEx has had quarter and FedEx wanted a WGC. Like, it's not hard to piece together. But so that's the reason why I just asked a question on Twitter, I actually did, I don't think I've ever done a little Twitter poll before. I just wanted to fire one up.
Starting point is 00:30:32 So what would you rather watch? A WGC in Ireland or a WGC in Memphis? And as polarizing as dumb as Twitter can be, it came back 89% would rather watch a WGC in Ireland. And I just thought like, how can we, maybe this is the inversion, like how can we something that like almost 100% of fans would rather see is like not even an option
Starting point is 00:30:52 or not even a thing, like how long can the model last where you just like keep punching fans in the face, like oh well, you don't, I know you'd, you wanna see this and like you would tune in for this but we're not gonna give it to you because we have to take the money on this side. Like how long does that last before you start having to eat yourself? Yeah, I mean, it doesn't really seem like that happened in a lot of other sports, does
Starting point is 00:31:11 it? You know, imagine basketball going to a point of like, hey, God, we really, really hate this. Like, well, you know, what are you going to do? Don't tune in, I guess. And like, that just doesn't really seem like it happens. I don I do. Don't tune in, I guess. Yeah. And like, that just doesn't really seem like it happens. I don't know. I mean, I guess maybe some of the football rules changes
Starting point is 00:31:29 and stuff, but even that is like safety related. Like, at least there's a better, you know, a better reason behind it. I don't know. It's a hard, it's a hard, increasingly large pill to keep swallowing. Well, I just go back to, and I get that the money, obviously the PJ Tours, an American-based organization,
Starting point is 00:31:49 and it's just what I'm talking about is very hypothetical and not that realistic, but it's not gonna stop me from 98% of this podcast anyways, like half-baked ideas. But I was thinking about this today too. It was like, what are the best golf experiences I've ever had? Where does golf just the best? Like the best vibe, the best what are the best golf experiences I've ever had? Like, where is golf just the best,
Starting point is 00:32:05 like the best vibe, the best people, the best golf courses, the best experiences like, well, like Scotland, England, and Ireland, and like Northern Ireland, like maybe Australia, and you know, some places I've been in the States, but like, how, like there should be a time period where golf is focused on the British Isles in the summer. This is the best few months of the year for golf in the UK and in Ireland.
Starting point is 00:32:30 It should just be the focus. I'm so glad Golf Channel goes over there and covers it. I don't know what the financial arrangements of that look like and what their relationship is with the sky and how they do the feed and all that. But it is a great, great broadcast because it's not watered down with FedEx cup updates and MetLife challenges and Aon risk rewards. And there's commercials, but it's not as many as what we see on the weekend. I just wish that it had a better field. And I wish Rory would have played.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I still don't fully understand that. I'm sure it has something to do with the open going in Northern Ireland. But I think it's a great event and I want to get back for it. I got to go two years ago and I'm hoping it goes to it. probably gonna go somewhere in your Dublin next year from what I hear and I hope it goes to a good Links course there and we should try to figure out a way to make it over there during the summer Yeah, so I think this whole conversation kind of you know, I know I just brought it up But I think it it really just makes you think World Tour again
Starting point is 00:33:21 It because you know all the all the arguments are kind of making about you know It's a great time to be in the UK and golf should be playing in the arguments you're kind of making about you know it's a great time to be in the UK and golf should be playing in the UK at this time of the year I mean you can you can kind of make all those arguments about the Midwest as well and we have made all those arguments about the Midwest and that's where I think it's I don't know that it's like an either or situation I think it's a both situation right where it's like let's take you know this world tour idea and let's put it on the best courses in the world
Starting point is 00:33:48 at the best time of the year. And then let's kind of look at what's left on the PJ Tour. That sounds very reductive, but let's look at it in it. Let's look at the 3M's and the Detroit's and the travelers. And those events that kind of look a little bit more like the old school PJ tour. You know, let's take those and kind of make this tour for everybody outside the top, you know, whether it's the top 70 in the world or the top 50 in the world or top 100 in the world or whatever, you know, is kind of leftover
Starting point is 00:34:20 from this hypothetical world tour that doesn't exist yet that we're kind of making up as we go. My question when I was thinking about it this week too was, what did the European tour get out of the WGC's? I mean, I'm sure they get money out of it, but like, there's none in Europe. Yeah, I don't know. That's a really good, it's a good question. I would assume it's a pretty decent financial arrangement, but yeah, I don't, outwardly facing. I don't really know. I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:34:48 I mean, I guess they get like, maybe it's strength of field for like the race to divide. Do you know events like those kind of get rolled up into the race to divide and make that look a little stronger maybe. But yeah, I'm not really sure. I don't, that's a good question. Yeah, I mean, I know that just because the championship management right from the PGA tour runs the event. I mean, I know a bunch of European tour social guys come and goes, European tour rules officials and all that. But other than that, like it's not a European tour event. I mean, I know Kevin Kizner's like top five in the race
Starting point is 00:35:20 to Dubai or whatever that is this year because of him winning the match play. But I just don't know what they get out of it other than like, hey, throw us one like every four years or something. I don't know. It just, yeah, I'm not sure. That's a good. I know we know the answer though.
Starting point is 00:35:34 It's just who's the sponsor is who's going to put up money. There's a reason there's won an acronym high-ofer as many years as there was. And it's just like, gosh, if it's a world golf champion, I mean, it's like in the name. I know we've said this every time, every time a WGC pops up, I think we say something similar, but it's just so obvious that something needs to be, they need to have some kind of identity. And as I was watching that today,
Starting point is 00:35:53 like why? Yeah, John Rom went out in one. I mean, I'm not saying he won because it was a weak field, but I mean, like it wasn't a top field and he was the best player probably in the field. If I'm, you know, having in front of me, but I would imagine that he was and he went out in one. Like it would have been really cool if he was battling an Albert DJ
Starting point is 00:36:07 down the stretch today or someone like that. Yeah, no doubt. Or Rory or Rose or any of the guys that you've seen over there. So kind of on the broadcast question, I know I was kind of talking about earlier about how the broadcast, at least in the States, doesn't always reflect necessarily where they are or what's going on. Lahinch is probably one of the five coolest towns I've ever been to in my life. Do they kind of share any like local vibe or anything?
Starting point is 00:36:34 I mean, I saw so many, some of the pictures of like, you know, almost like the block cardie kind of feeling that was going on over there. And it looked phenomenal. I was curious how much they kind of conveyed on that. You know, they did, and it's funny. I thought I was thinking about this too. I was like, wow, that's really cool. The thing they just did, they'd show like the surf, the surfers out there, or they show like a little playground right by the third T.
Starting point is 00:36:54 And you know, they showed like 700 people live in the town. And they talked about the party that was out there last night or Saturday night and all that. And I was like, you know what? This is the exact kind of thing that if they did this, Terry O'Rea, we can broadcast here. We'd be so mad about. But this is what they're afforded when you're not jamming as many commercials and sponsored stuff on the telecast. Like, you have time to do this kind of thing. And it fits and it flows. I think it flows when you do it properly also. I think the gold standard of those are when he and Stan was doing the Open Championship
Starting point is 00:37:30 and they would have those right Thompson assays. Those were, God, those were so cool. And that's where it's like, it doesn't feel like an interruption when it's done, you know, heartfully, and it's meant to like convey information and make you think and do all these things rather than just unnamed American broadcaster saying, let's go send our V-roll camera out for 12
Starting point is 00:37:52 hours to get slow-mo of guys flipping burgers and stuff. It doesn't really excite me quite as much as a really well done essay. I know that stuff takes time and effort but like maybe put in like some time and effort is I guess what I'm saying. Well, I don't know what the Irish tourism board has, what the relationship is with this event, if they kick in money or if they, I don't know, but I would imagine they do because it seems like a lot of it seems like somewhat of a commercial for Ireland. They should have the close of Moor andor and how that's not very far away.
Starting point is 00:38:25 And you know, it just kind of, they were going on and on about the five, which is, it's a very real thing. And I think all that works. Like if it's like visit Detroit or whatever it is out there, it's clearly sponsored and not flowing. I think that's very different.
Starting point is 00:38:40 So it works because Ireland's foreign to all of us too. And it was just so cool to see those shots. But even a place like Detroit is like, Detroit has such a cool, gritty, interesting golf history. And even that, it's like, you just take a minute and showcase that stuff a little bit. Like, how long was the PJ tour there? How many cool stories are there to harken back to?
Starting point is 00:39:02 And what happened after the tour left Detroit? And why were there so many freaking golf fans out there because they haven't had an event there forever and like Minnesota is kind of the same thing. It's like man you can I promise there are stories out there to tell it's just like it takes an extra you know an extra producer and extra camera and extra editor and all that stuff to to do that. But like that's what we talk about. I'm just full blown, kind of like slowly dripping into cover. Oh yeah, you're gone. It's gone. You're gone. It's lost it. It's good. I was on the edge for a while, but it's like that's what we talk about when it's like, man, I just was comatose when I watched this for four and a half hours. It's
Starting point is 00:39:39 because there's nothing like stimulating that happens. It's just like feeding you slow, like, gruel the whole time. It just like turns your brain into mush. It's just like feeding you slow, like, gruel the whole time. It just like turns your brain into mush. It's like there's nothing to break it up. And that's where I think, I don't know. You know what I'm saying. Oh, I know. It's so good to have you back.
Starting point is 00:39:55 It is so good to have you back. This is not, this is like, no, this is like Jordan going to the, it's not the official on-back press conference. It's just what reporters heard that he was at shoot around and he's just kinda like he's you know test in the waters this is jordan coming back for like those seventeen games or whatever was the end of
Starting point is 00:40:13 end of ninety four yeah no no no no this is a lot of people don't know he came back exactly the his second retirement season he came back uh... like for like seventeen games after something like that and got some reps in and came back and was ready to win three straight titles after that so we're that that's what we're getting out now we're ready to have you back for you know the coming to the end of the season of championships which is coming up here very soon so perfect yeah we'll
Starting point is 00:40:39 get in touch with Jerry Ryan's door if we get the contract nailed down all that stuff that we get. Well, this this week did get me just absolutely amped up for the UK British Open presenter by our majesty. Yeah, we got another episode that will come out on Tuesday night with Scott Van Pelt. He was we recorded that last week. We just kind of went through just some memories of his, you know, going over there for so many years, covering the Open Championship with the SPN.
Starting point is 00:41:05 And he's got some great stories. And it's not as much of a preview of Port Rush. You know, we talk about it a little bit, but I think we'll probably address that in next Sunday night's podcast some on our own. But look forward to that as well. I'm ready to roll. Link's SCN is upon us. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:21 I'm not, I'm willing to be, I know, keeping open mind about Renaissance as far as like a Scottish open venue. I think it's just really challenging with as many historic courses as they have to go to like a new American-owned Tom Doke design golf course. I hope it's great. I think they're going back there next year
Starting point is 00:41:39 like two years in a row without even having, you know, seen it one year, but I've gotten open mind, but I'm hesitant going into this coming week. Yeah, I'm excited. All that we've heard is, you know, from kind of being over there in East Lothian is like, it's good things.
Starting point is 00:41:52 I think, is this the first professional golf tournament at a dope course? I know, obviously he's worked on Wildlife and done some like, touch-ups and stuff there, but I don't know if we've ever actually been to like a full-on tom-dok design. I would have to think that you're probably right.
Starting point is 00:42:11 So that's interesting. That's kind of fun. Yeah, it's a little weird to have the Scottish open, like you said, at something that's so new. But you know what, we kind of felt, I think we expressed that in our Castle Stewart episode, too. Where you kind of have this this inherent bias towards anything that's not, you know, from 1886 or something over there and
Starting point is 00:42:31 You kind of want to not like anything new, but some are pretty damn good. So I'm excited to Excited to see it and excited to dive in. I'm like I really don't know that much about Royal Port Rush either So I'm excited to dive in and just kind of find everything I can read and videos to watch and all that stuff. It's kind of a nice two week ramp up here. The open website has some amazing pictures. Just like flipping through those, I was like, oh my, dude, I had forgotten how great this golf course is.
Starting point is 00:42:59 It's beautiful and it's fun links. It's a great combination. I think it's sometimes the links courses aren't the prettiest golf courses in the world for to a television viewer but man this one is gonna pass that test with flying colors so yeah yeah no Alan ship not great a piece kind of set the table a little bit just talking about how they had to read read to figure some of the holes and you know kind of read jigger stuff so that the finish is gonna be spectacular it's going to
Starting point is 00:43:25 be finishing up these really dramatic holes. Yeah, not really hot take, but I'm very excited for the British Open. You want to pound through some of these questions we got? I would love to. Sure. All right, Jay Rubes at Jack underscore Ruben said, should Matt Wolf have stayed in college? That was a good one. That's got the most votes right now.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Well, you know, we're always talking doom and gloom for the PJ Tour. I mean, what happens when things go bust and you have to go get a real job? He doesn't have a degree. That's what Bryson's probably told him, so I'm still right now. You know, I fired up that tweet. I forgot to Bryson left college early as well. Oh, that's Twitter. No one, that doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Did anybody correct you? Yeah, that's Twitter. No one, that doesn't matter. Did anybody correct you? Yeah, one person did, which was, which was, you know, thank you for your service. But maybe we start calling Bryce and the dropout. Him and Elizabeth Holmes? Yeah, exactly. Both preach at some fake science. You might throw that right back again. You know who else didn't get a college? The broad news. you might throw that red back again you know who else didn't get a college the broad day it seems everyone wants to start already talk about the president's cup which is really confusing to me but everyone lot of the questions a lot of the replies we got are like his mat wolf gonna be
Starting point is 00:44:36 on the team a lot yeah quite a few of them I that's a fair question at this point like what why not I would uh... so okay these these are two different people answering this question uh... the like realistic uh... the way players think the wake captain think the way they pick guys like says no he will not be on the team dj the golf fan who's about to get punched in the face by the up yet again
Starting point is 00:45:01 says like please take him because it doesn't matter at all. It'll be super fun to watch. I mean, well, yeah. So the question that the reason why I at least wanted to address this was, do we think we finally have some continuity in place, task force, whatever you want to call it, with Tiger being the captain? And like, so I think like looking back at 2015,
Starting point is 00:45:23 I was screaming from the rooftops. Brooks Kepp could needs to be on this team. Jay Haas selected his son. That's a big day. Very well. Yeah, old takes exposed. Where are you at on that one, huh? Can you go back and share some of those, please?
Starting point is 00:45:35 But Jay Haas took his son and JB Holmes, which was just beautiful. But Jay Haas wasn't got the winning point after all. All right. Yeah, but Jay Haas was gag after all. Yeah, that doesn't matter. But the point being like, Jayhoss was not part of the system and didn't care about developing any of these players or anything like that. He was like a one-time captain and in and out.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Whereas now they have this kind of continuity plan where do they, are they going to treat this president's cup as somewhat of a breeding ground for the Ryder Cup? And if so, like, you take that guy over like taking like kutur like we've seen what kutur does in these team events Like what what is wolf gonna look like and he might be on five of these teams He might be on ten of these teams going forward for all we know like why not find out now Totally, oh dude. I I wholeheartedly agree with you. I just wonder do you have the president's cup standings is I wholeheartedly agree with you. I just wonder, do you have the President's Cup standings?
Starting point is 00:46:24 Is it kind of ridiculous questions, but do you have the President's Cup standings in front of you right now? Well, it's my homepage, so I can just go straight to my homepage and we'll find it here very quickly. OK, OK, Bill. Well, I hope the PGA tour gets this updated on the spot, but what do you want to know?
Starting point is 00:46:40 Well, I was just going to make a point. I'm like, who are they they gonna leave off to take you know what what will assume is gonna be one one-time winner Matt Wolfe at the time. I'll tell you who they're gonna leave off it. It's gonna break your heart but it's Chez Reeve. I'm gonna imagine this is your chance to earn the spot from that. I think it's 10, they got 10 automatic spot. I'm sorry, no, it's eight automatic spots. And then the captain is selecting four. Okay, well, that's, that's a good sign.
Starting point is 00:47:13 So it's Capka DJ, Shoffley, JT, Koocher, Brison, Cantlay and Woodland right now. And then just out our foul or finao, Simpson, LT Grey, Chesrivy, Phil, Kisner, Howell,bba billy horsholt
Starting point is 00:47:26 read okay well you know what of of that group i can actually see i can actually see one of those guys getting dogs what if it's between tiger picking himself or picking wolf i he's gonna take himself come on he's gonna be a playing captain he's not even trying to make the tea he doesn't play any events this is not it's like he doesn't play professional golf yeah that's a fair point do I have a right that he has played just the memorial is always played between the masters and the UK British haven't presented by our majesty yes I believe so has to have a wonderful car yeah it's awesome it's like well speaking to that I don't know if anybody asking any questions about this but I would feel about Brooks finishing like T 55 or whatever it was yet again in a
Starting point is 00:48:12 A mortal a mortal turn of it. Yeah, is it does that noteworthy? Is that it shouldn't be like I think we should celebrate it each time Oh, no, it's perfect. I guess it's the most expected thing. Yeah. I think he should, you know, he was kind of complaining for a while about not being noted as a notable at the bottom of the screen. Like, when he finishes T40, it's like notable. Like, yep, that's what we expect out of him. He's gonna get it. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:36 And he's gonna finish T40 and he's gonna be the favorite going into Port Rush. And he's my pick to win Port Rush. And I picked out at the beginning of the year. The only major that I picked for him to actually win will be that one. And I think he actually is going to win it. So I'm not backing down from that one. Only because Matt Wolfe's not in the field.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Not yet. We'll find out after next week. How long is he going to play John Deere again? Are you thinking of playing John Deere kind of like off this win? Oh, I think so. I would have I think so. I would have to think so. I mean, he just won, but I don't think he's got the luxury to take an event,
Starting point is 00:49:10 skip it, like carving out a schedule just yet. I would have to say he's going to play as much as he can. Honestly, now I'd like move up the FedEx cup, and the higher up he gets in that, like he can make some serious, serious cash this fall and have after turning pro last month. Yeah, no doubt. Ben, Tyre Guy Ben says is Matt Wolf the first tour player to win an event without a blue check mark on Twitter. Where the two are being let on that one. How does he not have a check mark?
Starting point is 00:49:34 Well, he wasn't a member until that last punch drops. Oh, that's true. There's responsibility. Yeah, can we talk about that? He had to win the tournament to become a member of this tour. Yeah. Well, now he can vote for player of the year. So that's pretty cool. Can you vote for Rookie of the year?
Starting point is 00:49:49 That's, I don't know. That's a good question. I assume so. Yeah. So he, he with like a runner up today, he would have earned special temporary membership. Like I'm assuming Colin Rarkawa earned special temporary membership today. I didn't see that officially announced, but I'm assuming he did, which means he would have, been able to play as much as he wanted to this year as many events as he could get into and not have to rely specifically on sponsors exemptions. But now he gets the money clipped up.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Yeah, well winning actually lets him into the playoffs. So as weird as it is, like, more cow is still can't play in the playoffs. So it's weird as it is like Morcawa because he's still. Yeah, so Morcawa still can't like play in the playoffs as of now because he has not won an event. It's so hard to freaking unlock a playoff spot if you're not coming in as a member. So which I get in my don't. Yeah, I kind of get it just because it's all, you know, it's all so predicated on this 125 thing. It just gets messy when all of a sudden it's like, okay, well, also it's Doc Rennman and also it's Colin Mor 125 thing. It just gets messy when all of a sudden it's like, okay, well, also it's Doc Rennman and also it's Colin Markawa. So it's actually like, there was two other guys,
Starting point is 00:50:51 so it's actually like one, 29. You know, I don't know, I kinda get that, but it's, and I get, you know, protecting it, you know, protecting the kind of quote-unquote membership organization and keeping those perks for official official members. So I mean, they'll, you know, they play well. They'll be eligible to play it next year. Yeah, it makes somewhat sense. I think like, you know, it's so, so, so challenging
Starting point is 00:51:16 for these guys, though, that have to rely on these sponsors exemptions to try to earn special temporary membership. Like, hey, bud, like, here's like seven starts, go earn as much as the number 125 guy earned in all of last year. And like yeah, then we'll let you have the member. No, down, I mean, so that's, Haulville and is probably still just short of it. But I mean, if he gets it, which I guess he'll have another start next week
Starting point is 00:51:40 and Wyndham probably. So two more events. So if he gets, I mean, that would be four people in the same year. So if you, you know, if you, you know, if you're counting wolf, that's four people in the same year to do that. Like there hasn't probably been four people in the last four years to do that. It's nuts. I got kind of fatigued of the class of 2011 thing with the speed and JT class and whatnot. But I think the class of 2019 is going to be a very, very real thing very quickly.
Starting point is 00:52:08 No, that's not going to be a thing. I think it's a thing. Looking at that leaderboard today, especially in Holland got up to like T9 for a minute. And yeah, it's just like, it's jarring. I haven't seen anything like that in a while. And it kind of made me think a lot about, kind of, the Q-school and like the past to the PGA tour and stuff. And on one hand, it made me kind of, you know, miss Q-school a little bit where it's like, god,
Starting point is 00:52:32 it just, you know, lower the barriers for gods like this to get straight to the PGA tour. And it also made me think of kind of that old quote that everybody likes to throw around where it's like, you know, nobody who was good enough was as like literally ever been kept out. Right. And so it's, I don't know, I'm kind of stuck in the middle somewhere between what the right
Starting point is 00:52:53 answer is. But like, I think if hovelins, like if hovelins doesn't get special temporary membership and has to go to like the cordon ferry tour next year, like that doesn't really feel right either based on what he's done in his talent level and all that stuff, but I guess it's kind of all the world. That's why guys go to Europe. That's why guys go to Europe. I mean, it's really why they go
Starting point is 00:53:13 until they figure this world golf ranking thing out. I mean, what reason would anybody, any guy have to not go to Europe? I mean, there's reason why Julian Surrey does it. The reason why Brooks Kepke did it, where Peter, you line did it. And I think any system that is gonna make your, some of your top young players go abroad instead of saying,
Starting point is 00:53:30 you know, kind of earning their way, I don't know what the answer is, but this is what happened when you took away the Q-school spots is like, you, these guys don't have a direct path other than like through the web finals, which I know they're trying to build up, I'm sorry, the corn fray finals.
Starting point is 00:53:44 I know they're trying to build up the profile of that tour and try to get guys to go through it. But like, man, there is a better option out there for the money and for the ranking. And these guys are just trying to bully their way into the top 50 in the world rankings by, you know, taking advantage of that system over there and earning a lot of money in the process and picking their spots on when they come play the PGA tour. It's like, man, that's, you kind of damaged the product by putting up this wall in some way. It only affects a few guys, but gosh, I don't want
Starting point is 00:54:08 Hovyn going to go play a full Euro tour schedule if he doesn't get his tour card. Yeah, no, exactly. And I think they're taking steps. I'll be at probably pretty small steps with the PGA tour U, which always just makes me think of you. But you, you, you. But you know, I'm going to get all the details wrong because I'm driving.
Starting point is 00:54:34 I don't have it in front of me right now, but you know, the project that they're trying to unveil with giving KFC tour exemptions to the top college player, you know, but even that comes with like stipulations. I think that they're going to have to play all four years and blah blah blah. It's like only going to maybe the top one or two players or something and it's it's corn fairy exemptions. So even then it's like you still you know you're still probably going to have to you're just then you're playing just to get enough money to get into the finals and then you've got to play one of the finals and all that stuff. So it's still a much, much more indirect pass and it is kind of, you know, to the whole point we talked about at the top of the show. It's like, you know, Matt Wolfen, and Colin Moore, Kawa and Victor Haughlin, like these guys excite people because they're looking for the next thing. And I know you can't, you know, I know everybody, you know, God loves JJ Henry.
Starting point is 00:55:31 And he's putting a lot of time on the tour and stuff, but it's like, dude, how long are you guys gonna like protect guys like this and keep them just kind of like hanging around when, you know, if that's the downside, it's like pissing off people like that by giving up, you know exemptions to these guys and more capacities guys like man as a golf fan that feels you know like a really easy change and then that said he just heard it's the golf fan get clenched in the face again so I don't know fool me once that up to JJ Henry no one loves JJ Henry more than me the purple one but dropped as shrugged all of them
Starting point is 00:56:05 uh... last question let's wrap this out from Trevor McDonald how how quickly will wolf end up when a hashtag live under par ad uh... god probably by the time this post i would hope i wouldn't blame them at all they're gonna just super post him on camera champs face i think it seems like he was busy with nightly Nike clothes too? It seems like it'd be an easy transition, huh? I don't think he does wear Nike, but I'm excited to watch this guy for a long, long time, man. He could have gotten, you know, self-conscious about his golf swing and made some changes and kind of came out with some trepidation, but that does not seem
Starting point is 00:56:42 to fit the profile. and to win that quickly is it's it's special man it's it's it's emergency pod worthy that's for sure it is and it's you know I would first of all encourage everybody like we did we added to anything you did a a lengthy interview with him a couple months ago so like go listen to I mean, he's just like a normal-ass 20-year-old kid. And he's just really easy to root for. And I hope none of this comes off as, you know, I know we're talking about like President Kuffin, how many wins and all that stuff, but hopefully none of this comes off as like added pressure
Starting point is 00:57:15 because something like today, at least in my mind, just is like the ultimate freedom, hopefully, more than like more and more and more expectations. Because I think something like this today is just like, do you just validated all of it? And all you have to do now is just go keep free wheeling and just like you said, I mean, take this shared, make as much money as you possibly can,
Starting point is 00:57:36 and just keep fucking firing and keep like exciting people. I hope that, I don't know, I have no expectations for him anymore I'm just thrilled to be able to watch the ride for the rest of the year. I can't remember if this was on the podcast several years ago but I think it was maybe one of the first ones I did with JT where I kind of asked me just finished third at TPC and he made like half a million bucks and I was like he was a rookie or maybe it was the second year and I was like do he was a rookie or maybe he was a second year. And I was like, dude, what's the celebration like after you earn a half a million bucks? And the way he said it was not cocky, it was just like, dude, I'm gonna probably make a lot of money
Starting point is 00:58:13 in my career, that doesn't really motivate me. But the way he answered it was just like, oh, dude, okay, he's not celebrating that. Like, he didn't win. He's not pleased with that, and he's so confident in his abilities that that's not going to be like the highlight of my career. I didn't really celebrate that.
Starting point is 00:58:29 I got that same vibe from Wolf when we talked and I don't remember exactly what he said to make me think that. It was just like, oh, he's not worried about getting his tour card. He knows how freaking good he is. He knows he's going to be doing some pretty damn special things and again I think he would lie be lying if he said he was gonna win within four starts but dude this is this is extremely significant I think and I don't it's not like overhyping or like getting over exaggerating like when you the dude actually wins like that you that's we're
Starting point is 00:59:01 not over exaggerating this like if you finish fourth and we were like, dude, he's gonna win 30 events. Like no, he just won one. Like that was sick. Yeah, it was. And that's, you know, to what we said at the beginning where it's like, it almost seems like the hype hasn't even like built long enough yet. Like I know hardcore golf fans, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:19 have been really into him and have been following him and watching NCAAs and, you know, all that stuff. And I think they're, you you know pretty amped up but I think this news with like very very casual fans is even going to roll out pretty slowly and so you know like we said that you know not that many people are watching it the holiday weekend all that stuff like this doesn't from a hype standpoint like it doesn't feel like speed winning even though it is pretty much the same thing. You know what I mean? Dude, it might be like a more exciting speed. I'm not saying like more major wins, but like probably like more fun to I know he's a cute favorite athlete ever to watch, but more fun style of golf to watch.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Like, no, no, it's not how. Yeah. No, I'd be fun. I've said that a lot that like, you know, it's pretty much a speech and rory and tiger that are, you know, the guys that are really going to make you like go to the TV and sit down and watch. And I mean, I think Wolf immediately is added to that list. Yeah. All right. Let's wrap it once you get home safe and. Are you nervous for tomorrow? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:22 A little bit. I think I'll be pretty nervous. Have you told the people what you do i don't i can't remember i think i mentioned that sign up for us and qualifier which will be uh... by the time this is posted it's monday morning nine twenty seventy time its all-grabbed country club they put me off last i think they're a little worried about me holding up the rest of the golf course last off the tenth t i think uh...
Starting point is 01:00:41 we're gonna be called for all kinds of really if i was married to Justine Reed, there would be some fireworks going, there's some phone calls being made to the USGA tonight. They put you in the line drive section of the tee shoot tomorrow. Well, I hope you don't get JP Fitzgerald tomorrow, you know, halfway through this.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Yeah, I think it's gross. You're gonna be on the bag for me. I've been playing some really good golf, but I went over there and played this evening and then the wind was blowing and that is a difficult golf course, which I can't tell if that works, so I benefit or not. But it's not a realistic goal to qualify, but I'd like to, we're going to make some modest goals, which I think a reasonable modest goal is to beat half the field. I'd feel pretty good about myself if I was able to do that.
Starting point is 01:01:23 I think that's perfect. So I think we just go out there and we do the best we can do. That's all anybody can ever ask us. It's called where they may. That's it. All anybody can ask us. But it's going to be fun to watch. It is.
Starting point is 01:01:32 I'm a little worried about it. So remember the moisture issues from Orlando last year? I've packed like four extra gloves because I'm just going to be dripping sweat tomorrow. It's going to be like 95. It's mid-Ali in Florida. It's not going to be the best. But everyone's got to play in it.
Starting point is 01:01:47 You need me to do anything. Do you have any special category requests? Just a lot of dry towels. Keep my hands dry. All right. That's all I need you to do. Okay. All right. Got it. All right, bud. Get home safe. Thanks for tuning in. All right, man. See you. Cheers. Cheers Give it a right club. Be the right club today That's better than most That is better than most better than most Expect anything different Most.

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