No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 232: UK British Open Recap
Episode Date: July 22, 2019Shane Lowry wins the UK British Open by 6 shots at Royal Portrush. We discuss his victory lap, poise down the stretch, winning in Northern Ireland, Portrush, Rory's run at the cut, G-Mac, and a ton mo...re. We also discuss the Xander Schauffele incident, the Kyle Stanley kerfuffle, we recap major season, and everything else from one of the most fun weeks in golf. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I'm going to be the right club today.
Yes! That is better than most.
I'm not in.
That is better than most.
Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Lang Up podcast, wrapping up the UK British
Open presented by Her Majesty.
The first two days were presented also by the Rory Foundation.
Shane Lowry, oh, I'm sorry, and Her Majesty of the Queen.
And and Dubai duty for it. Thank you. Sorry. I lose track sometimes. I get excited. Shane Lowry wins by six shots. Do I
have that total right? Six shots. That's correct. What is your guys? Let's start with big
Randy. What's your lasting memory of the week? It will be Royal Port Rush. I did not know what it
looked like. I had no visual of it. It was really fun. I'm glad I got to see four
days of golf played there. And with an Irish winner winning in Ireland, Northern Ireland, Northern Ireland,
but on the island, on the island, that will be my end during memory.
Tron?
Ah, it's tough to not just subjugate Randy's take. I think Loury, I mean, he, it was a
tour de force. He, uh, he was nails, uh, there wasn't really even a moment where you thought he was
going to kind of give it away or even that it was in question. Like we thought he was Icarito.
Yesterday, we, we said on the live show, is he, like, is this becoming Icarito? And it's like,
he literally flew into the sun and it didn't never fell.
He flew out the other side of it.
DJ.
I'm, of course, I'll remember both of those things as well, but a big one for me is probably
Rory.
I mean, watching him A hit that ball out of bounds on Thursday morning, watching him come
back and grind trying to make the cut, watching him tear up and choke up in that post-run interview.
I mean, that was my heart went out to Rory a lot this week
and that was kind of tough to watch.
I think that's gonna stay with me for a while.
And that's why I wanted at least to focus
our preview efforts on setting the scene for what it meant
for this tournament to go there,
because I think even I didn't fully, fully understand it
until we heard that interview and the little shakes in his voice and the emotion. I was like,
I wanted to make the cup, but the whole thing was kind of a big laughing stock because
it's like where is one of the best players in the world and here we are trying to cheer
him on to make the cut, but hearing his disappointment for not making it and seeing GMAT get the
moment to walk up the 18th green here on Sunday today in front of his, you know, he's
actually from Port Rush, Roy's not, but GMAC being from Port Rush to get that moment to walk up.
But again, these guys never could have ever pictured this ever happening growing up
in Northern Ireland.
But I think it can be kind of a trope too, because you play so many events in the States that
go to guys, you know, kind of quote unquote, home towns or adopted hometowns and you hear
about, oh gosh, Tigers playing the Honda and his hometown and all this stuff.
And like, obviously nobody puts those totally in the same bucket, but you just, you hear
it a lot.
And I think it's easy to kind of get desensitized, just stuff like that and to see just how
different this was and how not in that same league going to World Port Rush was.
To worry.
I want to congratulate Tron on getting the leaderboards surrounded, but not actually making any
profit from any of your pre-tournament bets. Well done.
Thank you.
That's almost like winning the...
Who will not win?
Of the Who Will Not Win, which we're all for.
Emerge victorious on this. Who were you guys picked to not win?
I had John Ram, it was a little testy on Thursday. He was looking pretty good.
It's just to be clear on the Who Will Not Win, it is...
You're not trying to pick somebody that...
Right, as they can't win.
Right, of course.
Trying to find his close to it here.
Well, that's what I think, you know,
the best we've done is I think,
and I picking Dustin at,
what was it?
The Masters, the Masters, we finished.
Second.
Second.
So I mean, that's as good as you can do.
Yeah, try to top that.
You pick the guy who finishes second.
That's as admirable as you can get.
The best we've done is you pick him.
If I do say so myself,
you picking Reed to not win any one. Well, and that's where you fly a little, but that's, that says, it admirable as you can get. The best we've done is you pick. If I do say so myself. You picking Reed to not win any one.
Well, and that's where you file a little,
but that's the risky run, right?
You know, you gotta file a little too close
to the sun sometimes.
We breeze a little bit past Lowry.
I think when you got to four,
Fleetwood had a putt for Eagle on 12
to make it a three shot lead.
That was the only moment,
but I had already tweeted the picture
of them getting the trophy in grave
so it was already over. It was, I never, I would never already tweeted the picture of them getting the trophy engraved, so it was arguing.
It was, I'm never too early.
I think it would probably was feeling that at that time.
Yeah, I'm sure you'd seen the tweets.
I think the one for me, it gets down to the eagle put on five that Tommy had.
Like, all right, if you're going to, yeah, this is real, you're going to make this putt.
And then there were so many, man, he flat, like one was playing so difficult, as we saw,
he flagged in there to inside 10 feet from
200 yards on one and didn't really give that one the best effort and he just
It just didn't look comfortable on the greens at all
Which I know is tough in the wind and that's not that stuff and in that shirt
Yeah, I'm sure he was catching some wind in the do we think it was two different shirts
He wore that same shirt twice this week because it the same one that he ran it back? Yeah, wore it two or three times as well.
Like, it's the Rorschach test.
So let me ask.
The Rorschach.
The Rorschach.
Is it?
The Rorschach and awe.
Because Brooks and Tiger don't have to wear them.
Do they?
Does that mean Fino and Fleetwood have to wear them twice?
Like, they delegate that to them?
Oh, I didn't think of that.
That's very interesting.
Well, maybe Brooks paid his penance with the floral hats.
Or maybe Brooks just paid Fino,
and you know, Brooks and Tiger paid Fino in Fleetwood
to wear theirs.
Probably, and it's probably possible.
There's all stuff we can,
we'll report back on all this stuff.
I felt like today would have been really, really freaking
interesting, like with those,
like the conditions with a big leader,
the only question in doubt was like,
is he gonna throw it all away?
Is he gonna go full JB Holmes?
If this was actually close today would have been so awesome.
It would have been great, because nobody,
nobody in the last, I don't, I have not looked this up.
I don't think anybody in the last hour broke par.
I mean, all the scores that anybody shooting under par
were early this morning.
I mean, Molinaria's coverage was,
that's how I was waking up this morning
was coming in under par, but no one else. Yeah, Molinaria's coverage was, that's how I was waking up this morning was coming in under par, but no one else.
Yeah, Molinaria got all the way up to T11.
Yeah, he was, he was finished by the time,
time to woke up.
Which moving the T times up seems to have really
crowned the earliest guys, like the guys
that were furthest back.
Yeah, I suppose so.
Oh, there was a lot of like,
I'd be bondratched, shot 67, I think,
co-grackrat shot 67, I think, co-grack shot 68,
Ustagen shot 69,
Molenari shot 66,
like a lot of the guys that went off early
were very, very much.
Yeah, and like, if I'm one of the later guys
and kind of like do that,
like moved up to avoid all this shit,
but we had to play and all the shit
and the younger, the other guys did not.
I don't know.
It matters in this championship.
It does.
Let's get into that during our faux controversy section with Big Randy.
Now I'm calling this a real controversy.
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What's the highest thing burning on your guys radar so far?
Just Lowry very deserving.
Do you guys want to play a little trivia?
Oh, related to the open.
Yeah, of course.
I always love to.
Do you shout out to me, Razerhand?
You can shout it out, but I need you to not
consult your scoreboards.
So five players shot even par or better all four rounds.
That will rush.
Can you name them?
It wasn't Shane Lowry, and that's for sure.
Five players.
Even par or better?
Danny Willett?
No.
John Rom.
Lee Westwood?
No.
Man, Kenka?
No.
It was over a part of the day, I think.
That's what I'm saying.
Everyone in the back half today.
Fina?
Fina is one.
Four others.
Sheesh.
Robert McIntyre.
Big shot, Bob.
Terrell.
Terrell Hatton is two.
Whoa, three more.
I know he was, he climbed a lot of spots.
Did we say Justin Rose already?
Did we do it with somebody else?
No, he shot a million today.
The Rick, the Rick Ricky. No, no, it was over a part of spots. Did we say Justin Rose already? Do it with somebody guess that? No, he shot a million today. The Rick, the Rick Ricky.
No, Rick was over.
No, this is bad radio.
Why don't you just tell us good news.
So Patrick Reed.
Whoa.
The boy from Bradislava, Roy Sabatini.
How about that?
And Doc Redman.
Whoa.
Does DJ need to apologize?
I thought that was kind of cool.
That is very cool.
That is a great stat, Randy.
Do you dig up your own stats for you?
I'm sorry.
Though I dig them all myself up
to Bill Fields, a researcher over here.
Well, I think that's interesting.
Because DJ suggested that Doc Redmond
should give his spot up.
Yeah, I did.
I think I would stand by that.
I think it's a great week.
No one's a bigger Doc Redmond fan than me. But yeah, I mean, I think I still would by that. I think it's a great week. No one's a bigger doc Red Fittin, doc Red Fittin fan than me.
But yeah, I mean, I think I still would have rather had Matt Wolff in there than doc Red Fittin
finishing like 20th.
You're an anti-medicine.
The medicine man.
That's a good nickname.
The medicine man.
He's a Christian scientist.
He's a Christian scientist.
We kind of glanced over it, but obviously, I think we were all kind of at least feelings,
feelings something relating to Lowry coming up that last hole with the Ireland, the Ireland
around him.
We saw some people, like Sean Martin, was that the golf course that he grew up playing.
For my understanding, he comes from very modest background and kind of filled with it.
Did you hear the story that Dan Hicks shared on the air that when he was, I think it was
that when he won the Irish open, he was renting a house before he turned pro,
he was renting a house with his mom,
his mom put, they were like scraping money by,
apologies if I'm missing the details on this story,
but they're just scraping money by,
his mom went down, put 50 euros on him,
a 250 to one to win the Irish Open, any one,
and that like helped pay off the rental house
that they were in and paid off a bunch of other stuff as well.
So like, I think that probably kind of sets the scene
for where they were at.
Is there anything more baller
than winning your national open as an amateur?
No, that might literally be as good as it gets.
And that round he had Saturday, again,
he's a dog redman didn't do that.
36 whole lead and shot 63.
And it's kind of easy to kind of scoff
at a 63 in a major now that we've seen in 62
and it seems to happen a lot, but like that was literally the second best round in
the history of major champion change.
Well, I was going to say what was weird is his walk up 18 on Saturday almost felt more
emotional and like it it was the Sunday walk whereas the actual walk today on Sunday was
a bit more subdued.
Which actually, it makes you think,
I mean, just what his, you know, the 18 hours
between rounds must have been like,
if that's how he's feeling on Saturday walking up 18,
think about all the time between, you know,
the first T on Sunday.
I'd be super curious to know what he did.
Yeah.
Like, did he just go out to the pub
and have a couple of pines last night?
Like, he probably normally does. I don't know. I mean, I would I don't know I
I get like nervous before like I just play like a nice course
You know like I think about it a lot. I'm like what time should I get there? Do I want I don't want to hit too many balls
And like it's a bad always a bad sign. It happens almost every year at the Masters when there's like the surprise guy on top of the leader board
And they're like paying over the range and they go oh and
Smiley Kaufman has arrived three and a half hours
and a force T-time and it's like,
oh, no, no, no, no, this is not gonna end well.
Well, so we've talked to guys,
when you get guys usually off the record,
to be candid about what it's like sleeping on the lead
or whatever, I mean, they freak out, they can't sleep,
they wake up at four in the morning,
they try to eat breakfast,
they're trying to go to a movie or something,
they totally take their mind off of it.
It's, that'd be a good podcast itself, just rounding up some stories like that.
Almost feel like the way that that Lowry went about things today, it was like yesterday
was the big category climb in the Tour de France and he knows he won it.
And then today was the stage where he's going down the shop so he's like, and he just still fall off.
And he's just like, he's like sipping the champagne
and yeah, just trying not to fall off his bike or rack.
I mean, the conditions today, I don't know how you can never feel,
like what he probably wasn't able to experience
cruise control today because like,
when the winds whipping 20 and like they reigned hard there
for 30 minutes or so.
Conditions were really tough.
Really tough out there.
But it almost felt like it, like later on,
it felt like it kind of helped him out because.
Oh yeah, because nobody could catch him.
Like nobody could run real.
Nobody else could do anything either.
And if he just kept finding the fairway
and getting it around the green,
he had a couple of three bogies in a row,
I think at one point, but it still didn't feel like
he was losing ground.
No, I mean his one over 72 felt like 67, 68 today.
What do you think about Brooks seemed to be a little aggravated today, animated out
in the golf course.
There was a clip that was floating around Twitter of him as JB Holmes was plumbobbing
in the background.
He just gets disgusted and walked off the green.
Will Great tweeted that he had motion to an RFA official,
pointed at his watch.
Let's get this going and then said some things after the round.
He said, we were on pace for 13 holes,
but we're always on pace if I'm in the group.
And then was lambasting J.B. Holmes from not being ready to hit.
That's the issue.
Before he even started his swing,
or started his shot routine, he wouldn't have his glove on.
And things like that.
That was the thing on the first tee.
Oh, it's awesome.
I was gonna say,
you're talking about getting nervous the night
before playing a big course
and thinking about what time we're gonna get there.
Apparently, JB Holmes doesn't do that.
He was not ready to hit on the first hole.
He hadn't seen the hole all week.
He's just staring down the fairway,
trying to figure out what he was gonna hit.
Didn't have his glove on, sniped it OB.
You know what he wanted to hit?
Zinger lit him up.
That was the best part. I mean, it feels like I am very guilty in this regard. People are piling
on this JB thing. Totally. It doesn't have that much effect on the, like the fan watching at home.
I mean, it's bad. No, it's like, it's the things people were defending him at Tory. Was that last
year or two years ago? That was two years ago when he did a norm.
That was a whole shit.
This is what you need to be pissed at.
And people, and then now it's devolved into this whole,
it's like its own thing now.
But I feel like before, it's like, yeah,
this is what you need to be pissed at.
Yeah, I think these things just cross
into almost like meme territory
when it's just, it gets to like a ubiquitous critical mass.
It's like Baba being a jerk a few years ago
where it's like no matter anything that he does,
it's like, oh, well, yeah, well, because he's an asshole.
It just is the centerpiece of every story around,
is he an asshole like maybe, I don't know,
I don't know, I don't know, very well of it.
Is JB slow?
Yeah, for sure, but it doesn't have to be
at the center of everything he does.
You love a problem when JB is on pace
and people kind of pat him on the head to,
well yeah, like look at him, they're put a four hour round.
Yeah, they're only a whole behind,
like this isn't that bad.
The issue with it is like that he ignores all of it
and never speaks on it and never like admits
that when he's wrong or like is trying to get better,
there's no attempt to get better by any measure.
What does he have to though?
He's never been penalized.
That's, it's unfair.
I mean, he's living under par.
It's unsportsman, unsportsman like, you know what it is?
It's not classy.
It's, I'll meet you halfway there.
It's not classy.
What are some of your classiest moments of the day
that you saw today?
Oh gosh.
Well, I know, one that you and I shared was hands down.
Brooks is putter raise on five.
Just after Fleet would hit that close one in there.
Really disappointed we didn't get a slowmo replay of it
But flea would drives five and Brooks is up by the green and Brooks half-assed raised his putter out of
You just drove it to like eight which to his credit Brooks hated closer than that
Because cool yeah closer than that. Yeah, I had to like yeah, I made eagle
There was up there also Shane Lowry on the 72nd hole trying to quiet the crowd down
for Tommy Sleetwood about to put out after he whipped everyone into it.
Absolutely.
Rockest.
Speed and Fleetwood trying to figure out who just earned was it such a display of class.
Hicks pointing out that I can't remember whose caddy it was.
Is it?
Oh, it was Lowry's caddy.
Quite a good player in his own right.
Great player.
Well, you had a good point there.
I think they should start outing the players
who are not, the caddies who are not good players.
Somebody tweeted this at us, it was like,
oh, so his, his caddy Mick is a 21-handed guy,
but he's got a wicked to win this.
This.
Before we move on from JB, you want another stat
brought to you by yours, Julie.
Oh, stat boy.
Only player in the field to not shoot around in the 70s.
Oh my God.
You're a hot.
Almost didn't shoot one in the 80s, you know?
Oh, yeah.
Hey podcast world.
Hey, that's true.
Fires at final round 80s, 70s.
That's a lot of stress.
That's a very ball don't lie moment.
Which I didn't check his whole my whole,
but are we sure they didn't penalize it for
slow play?
He should have been in the barbersol.
Yeah, that was a good block at the year-on.
He skipped it.
Classless.
The skip is home town of it like that.
Gawa was coming to him to try and test.
Which, you know, it's weird, and maybe this is just being totally ignorant or like, but
it's just so weird to think about this.
Fleet, it was actually Fleetwood's home country.
Well, yeah.
I'm not even dipping my toe into this one.
Look, I'm in love.
Because you can't get all the politics in.
UK is Northern Ireland, Scotland, England and Wales,
which is like, but a lot of people consider
those individually countries, Northern Ireland separately.
So the kingdom is kind of like a group of countries.
It's very complicated.
You can see why they fight over it for like 50 years
or like more than that.
Or like 15 hundred years.
Yeah, exactly.
No, I just thought that was interesting to wear.
You know, I thought Tommy Handle it really well
with the crowd being exceptionally pro.
Yes.
Lowry, but also. I like when the crowd is a really pro
one person by the way.
It makes it a lot more fun.
Yeah.
It was a weird look just flipping on live from, and like, I know
that you guys got to talk about whatever they got to talk about,
but it's like, what is this going to mean to, you know,
the country of Northern Ireland and how it relates to Irish,
Northern Irish relations?
So let's go to Brandylshamblée, Jaime Diaz, and like Rich Learner.
I'm like, ah, I don't know, maybe not the best guys to weigh in
on what that means to your point.
But at least it felt like this was a very...
We're much better guys to weigh in.
Yeah, I got this.
I've been to both of these countries before, so.
It felt like, you know, with all of the complications
around the relationship there, this weekend did not feel like one of them at all.
Like it was a storyline, like going into it,
but if you didn't know any of that,
you would have not felt one single part of it.
If you didn't know any of that,
you would have just thought they were in Ireland.
Correct.
But like I'm saying, even with the crowd,
the way it was treated, I don't think any,
like there's not like, I would imagine like,
the Protestants of Northern Ireland
were not rooting against Chain Lowery, I would have met,
I don't know, I can't, I don't wanna put myself in that scenario,
but it just didn't feel like a real thing
while you were on the ground.
But it felt very, very positive, which is great.
Which, does it kind of free Rory up a little bit?
And cause I know he's gonna play for Ireland at large in Japan
in 2020.
It feels like it kind of frees them up to have it be less of an issue.
Hey, I don't think about that.
I hope so.
Some of the people that were tying Irish flags to umbrellas and waving them aggressively in the air
was maybe slightly tad aggressive, but they were supporting their fellow countrymen.
We could totally be like the ignorant Americans.
They're like, yeah, these guys got the shippied up after the turn of the year.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, we don't know what actually.
By the time this post, hopefully, all of it still rings true.
What do we do, Randy?
You're a big fan of faux controversies.
I want you to kind of rank your best controversies of the week.
Well, thank you, Sally.
I don't want to rank him in terms of my favorite,
but I will say the first faux controversy this week
had to do with David Duval,
Carding and first round was at 90.
91.
91. It was he had just his handicap up to then.
And then he's a plus one.
Randy doesn't want to rank the contrivers.
It was 90 and then it became 91
because it changes 13 to a 14.
Randy doesn't want to rank him because he loves all of his controversy.
They're all his children.
Well, it was Alan Chippnut who kind of stoked the flames and saying, it do always kind
of playing tourist golf.
Making starts like this.
His job now is more of a broadcaster.
He's not a golfer. He's not playing.
Week to week, you don't have any type of real schedule on the Champions Tour.
You know, it's a little
selfish
for him to play to take a start. Is that your tip?
You're from somebody else and I
think I'm I think I'm there with Alan. I think it's interesting.
Now I wanna say, you hate history.
I wanna say, Duval has earned the right to make the start.
I get that.
I get all of that.
But I think it's an interesting discussion.
I think it's a great discussion.
Like it's a perfect example.
Do I mean, to Shipnix Point, it's like, yeah yeah, Mark Calcivec here playing any he plays a regular schedule
and is competitive on the PGA tour champions and Duval's not.
Some shame to be there.
Same thing.
Exactly.
I get that, but at the same time, I'm like, dude, if you win it and you're exempt until
you're 60 years old, you have the right to hold that spot.
I believe that pretty strongly.
Sounds like part of Shipnok's point, too, is that Duval seems somewhat joyless while he was doing it.
Yeah. Like fans were like, yeah, I'm afraid to look at the guy.
Well, I think you did make a 14. But to take the sunshine out of it.
I was going to say like to Duval's like the punishment for that, if you're going to take up the spot,
is if you're going to post an embarrassing score, like people are gonna talk about it,
and that's part of the deal.
So that's the trade-off, I think.
Well, I see what I think we'll be interesting
is next year, whether he makes the starter not,
because obviously he wasn't planning on shooting in the 90s.
He burned it first two holes,
he was threading the lead there for a while.
But a score like this, where he's 13 shots worse than the next guy.
It's like, a lot of that was one whole.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'm on the other side of it.
I have no problem with Duval teaming it up.
I'm with you.
I think he's earned the right
and he can do it however he wants.
I mean, you look at John Daly making a mockery
of the PGA championship.
Like, you know, I think you've all showed up.
He didn't play well, but at the end of the day,
like he's earned the right regardless
of what he does with his time outside of the open championship.
He's earned the right to do that.
He's, but I'll push back and say,
he's earned the right only because that's the way
they wrote the rules.
Like they could change the rules.
For sure.
And then we would say, well, he has an earth.
Well, that's, no, that's exactly where I'm at
and like if they change the rules obviously be like all right cool yeah like that makes sense
I'm fine with that but until they do I'm like I'm totally fine with them being there and I don't know
what really where this uh controversy has been for the last like 40 years at the masters when you
you watch guys go like giggle around and shoot eighty five No, they change their policy. They change their policy.
Well, they get the tap on the shoulder when they're like, yeah, and to be fair, the open
change theirs too.
You're not allowed after 60, I believe, which I think is why it was Tom Lehman's last
one.
So I think Duval kind of falls in that.
He's kind of in the, the no man's land a little bit between being too young to be, you
know, ousted and too old to really
want to play competitive golf.
So I think it's much to do about nothing is where I would fall.
Listen, where I think this netted out, it shouldn't have admitted it was a rather boring
afternoon.
You just tried to shake things up a little bit.
Which, a little bit.
I'm down with that.
Can we save a couple of the other controversies?
We kind of brush past port rush a little bit.
I want to talk a little golf course. Yeah, we'll call it a little chance to catch a breather here, but what did you a couple of the other controversies? We kind of brush past port rush a little bit. I want to talk a little golf course. We'll tell a little
chance to catch a breather here, but what did you guys, what did you guys think of the golf course?
I loved it. I thought it was what you love about it. The runoff specifically were my favorite
part of it. I think the fact that, you know, we always talk about good shots or great
shots being, you know, looking like great shots and average shots being treated as such.
I think that was a perfect example of it this week
was if you didn't fly it to the right shelf,
if you didn't hit the right spot,
I mean, it was probably rolling off
and we see that a lot in the link's golf
but we don't typically see it rolling
into these like 15 foot craters that Royal Port Rush has.
Like the misses were drastic,
which I think even, you know,
kind of is more of a testament to Shane Loury shooting 15
under. Yeah, in that place. It's nuts. I think the long, the long narrow greens were really
good. Yeah. One thing, I thought the course looked so cool, just in these passing shots from the
ground, DJ, you mentioned this while we were watching it yesterday, everything they've shot from
the ground where you could see the undulations and see the dunes in the background and kind of see it from the perspective that you would see it if you were on the ground versus
just those kind of big dumb high shots that they've got from the towers. It's just a lot of everything. Yeah, and yeah, I
agree. I think a little slopes are what make it make things all I mean a lot of them are not so little
well, that's a big notice them from a big TV tower.
It's not huge elevation changes from one
to the property of the other.
So the slopes that you're navigating
that are direct in front of you are severe,
like they're huge.
And like, if there was one shot,
I think it was showing, I forget who was
chipping on the third green.
And it was like a low to the ground shot
showing the slope they had to pitch over
on that third green.
It's like, if you're high up, you have no appreciation for how hard that shot is.
And what I love the most, maybe, was just seeing how challenging and uncomfortable the shots around the greens were for the pros.
Like, if you missed the green, you had decisions to make. Do you play it low? Do you play it high?
And you had to, you know, do try to use some of the slopes behind the pins and whatnot and watching Ram implode on Friday morning.
And when he was greenside on the second hole and he made double out of it or maybe Bogey I think.
That was perfect.
You never see weak to weak pros really uncomfortable
around the greens because it usually stops
in one of Randy's well groomed bunkers
where it stops and high rough
that it's easy to flap a 60 degree around.
So I thought, yeah, if you missed these greens,
you got punched in the face
because the ball rolled away from you
and it rolled into shit that you did not want to play out of.
That was an unbelievable test to go off. I thought it was great. The conditions didn't
really buck their heads until Sunday, and you saw the difference in trying to come into those
greens with crosswinds on Sunday because nobody could hold them in that afternoon.
I know this is another overarching characteristic of Link's golf, but just seeing how the wind
changing affects holes and seeing how moving the how the wind changing affects holes and seeing how
moving the T's, changing affects holes and stuff. I mean, that 17th hole is a perfect example. The
fifth hole is a perfect example of that where it's like one day it is, you know, they're driving it
over the green. One day they've got 160 yards in. I mean, it's just, it was so cool to see how much
variance there was and variance in like the length of par five, the directions of the holes. I think,
you know, we're saying no, no two holes basically like ran the same, back-fives, the directions of the holes, I think we're saying no two holes,
basically ran the same, back-to-back holes,
ran the same direction.
That's always cool with the wind.
And then the par-fives all played differently.
Some of them were guys were hitting eight irons in two,
and some of them were true, three shot holes.
And yeah, just a great mix.
I hopefully back there sooner than later.
Except that it wasn't very pretty.
That's what you said.
Well, to your point, after you aired me out,
after I was just viscerally trying to confirm,
and like, guys, are we in the nest here?
I have a take that I need to ask you guys,
but I hope we're in the nest.
I go, sure, of course,
deesh, of course we're in the nest.
I was like, well, I kind of thought it'd be
a little more dramatic than this.
I thought it'd be a little... You said I thought it would be prettier. I thought it'd be a little more dramatic than this. I thought it'd be a little, a little like-
You said I thought it would be prettier.
I thought it'd be a little prettier, because everyone's like, oh my gosh, they're cliffs.
And there's so many, the elevation change, and this is the most dramatic off course you've ever seen in your life.
I saw Thursday and Friday, I'm like, what were you listening to?
Probably you. It's probably you and Aiman. You're talking about all the cliffs and how grand the whole place is.
And you only saw that when the camera was on the ground,
I thought.
This sounds like a coverstake.
Well, I got back into it.
If you're going to stick a gun in my face,
I'm going to have to defend myself.
This floor is a standard ground state.
You're exactly right.
Do you know my favorite part of Port Rush?
What was that?
And this is kind of tongue-in-cheek,
but I hope it'll whip you guys up.
It's the InCourse Out-About.
There it is. Controversy number two.
You like in-course out-of-bounds.
Oh, go ahead. You can kick it off then.
What is it? I think it adds an element of just chaos.
Yes.
It's very harsh. Yes.
Everybody knows where the out-of-bounds is,
so it's not like it's jumping up and surprising everybody.
Except Paul Casey allegedly on the first day. I didn't know who's out of bounds, which I don't know how you could not know.
I think it's just a bit of quirk that you only get at the British open. Like you don't get that
here at any, you know, week to week on tour. And it's like you know it's there and it completely
changes the way you play the whole.
And if it doesn't, then maybe that's being arrogant.
I thought the history or the backstory or the reason for the out of bounds between one and
18, up the left side of one and up the left side of 18, was pretty cool.
Jeff Shackward wrote a little piece about that that basically at the 1951 US Open, the
only other open change of chips, right?
The only other open that they've hosted there, the club didn't actually own that tiny
sliver of land between one and 18.
So since it was not their property, like it had to be out of bounds, they've since purchased
it, probably with a rocket mortgage.
And they had a free-ass.
That was the joke, guys.
They've since purchased it, but thought that it would be nice,
be a little cheeky to keep that as out of bounds.
It's so much.
It's a pain homage to Max Faulkner and the boys back in 1951.
I miss that story and I love that story.
It's pretty cool.
Yeah, thank you.
Now, why number one was OB up the right?
We're Ricky hit it.
I'm not really sure.
I'm not totally sure, but I guess we could discuss that as well.
I mean, my point on being kind of against it
is that you already are punished really
severely on this golf course for being offline.
And like especially on that left side, like you do not want to be down there.
Rough was not like finned out anywhere.
And you know, and you know, and you, it does a terrible angle down the left.
This course was really, really, really well protected against like bombing and gouging.
There was no one that just cranked driver everywhere and thought, even if it runs into
the heavy shit, I'll wedge it on because that just is not the way you play that golf course. So I think it's good
when OB kind of helps prevent that. Like if OB is there and makes guys think like I can't pound
driver here because I can't go left because it's OB, that's great. But already guys wouldn't have
been hitting driver there because you don't want to be left and down in that shit. So it's kind of
just double punishment and kind of, I don't, I've always thought the OB penalty
is just too severe.
I think it should be like if you reach it,
it's your second shot.
Like I think,
Oh, no, I disagree completely.
I think that it's the harshest,
it's the only harsh penalty for pros.
Yeah, I think so.
Maybe they should start putting in just willy-nilly OB
week to week around some of these PGA courses.
I was gonna say, I would ride for a,
this is where maybe I'd get down
with a bifurcation with the rules here
because OB for the average player sucks.
And I think everybody would say
that's probably their least favorite rule.
If you get it into this grandstand, OB.
Yeah. You don't even get the,
you don't even get the opportunity.
You're kicked out of the tournament.
Yeah.
I think the way this boils down to is, you know,
Sally, DJ have you, steak to claim here,
but it's always more in favor of concurrent sensing
for penalties, whereas trying to hire
more consecutive sensing, you gotta serve it all.
Yeah, yeah, you gotta serve all your penalties.
I think you should have to play a golf tournament
with one ball, once you lose that ball.
You're done, you're done.
This is gonna turn into a commission.
I'm going to say, this is a great plug for you.
If you haven't listed the trap draw, all about what we do
for your commissioner for a day, I would urge you to look that up.
So you can't seek that.
That might have to be just a part one.
I've thought of many more.
Oh, yeah.
Sally wants to get involved as well.
It sounds like he's got some wealth.
We'll have to run that back sometime.
We're also submitting, I might just be with the trap draw.
He's been.
Yeah. We've got a run that back sometime. We're also submitting, I might just be with the trapdrides now.
We've got a request out this week.
We're hoping to get some proposals.
We've got an RFP out now for some earthworks down at TBC
sawgrass.
A lot of ecological issues that have sprung up
with rerouting the intercostal to the TBC sawgrass.
But we'll deal with those as they come.
Well, my idea, I should save it for the next pod, but is to prevent bomb and gouging, there
should be a little zone in the middle of the fairway at 270 yards.
If you hit it in the zone, you get to throw your ball 30 yards further.
That's a treat for the guys that don't hit it.
We're kind of talking a little bit about gamifying the you know, the, gamifying the driving experience out there.
If you hit it a certain length,
you get, you know, some bonus points.
If you hit a certain straightness,
you get some bonus points.
But again, I thought one of the things we discussed
is you're not allowed to hit straight balls.
Yeah, you have to cut that one.
I don't know that I necessarily put that legislation
on the table quite yet,
but I was talking about outline,
first I was talking about outline draws,
because I think a proper shot should be left to right. But then
the more we thought about it, maybe outlawed straight balls. But again, we, I feel like we're
getting all this stuff in. Yeah. Yeah. We'll take us to your next favorite
controversy, Randy. Well, the next faux controversy that popped up was, I mean, it was
truly disgusting. I think it's I think you tried to banish it from your mind. That's right. Yeah. I was the incident between Kyle Stanley technically multiple incidents.
I don't want to make your point for you, but it happened twice. So Kyle Stanley had a couple
airing shots, did not yell for his playing partner, Robert McIntyre, Bobby Maxwell Rod.
They brought it down after the round round during the round, I think.
Was it during the round as they were walking up the 18th?
Yeah, had some choice words.
Like, hey, dude, you got to get a ball hit his caddy's mum.
Yeah, that's why on the bounce.
Now it's personally.
So the controversy is should Kyle Stanley have yelled for?
Yeah.
And should he have yelled it, even though some other people
happened to yell it for his golf ball.
And Tron and I are firmly in the stance that,
I think KFS is in the wrong.
He should have yelled for.
It's your personal responsibility to alert people
of your air and shot.
A lot of these guys in the PGA tour
are all about personal responsibility
till that first T-Shot goes off.
Yeah, and until the rubber meets the road. Yeah, we see we see how guys actually behave.
If you guys are going to be on the side of needing to hold KFS accountable for this incident that none of us here witness
I'm gonna be holding myself accountable to hold you guys accountable for every incident on television that happens
when a guy hits a wayward drive.
I had to point out four of them for you.
I think this week before you guys bothered to note that Rory with his very first shot of
this golf tournament hit someone and broke their phone, did not yell for.
He didn't hit someone.
Nobody hit their phone.
Nobody else yelled.
That's besides the point.
If it's going in the direction of people, somebody said, yeah, that's your point. He's tired of these millennials with their phones out of
Evolving and no one on that t-box yield for which is very different than cloud Stanley's situation
So you guys are just piling on with with with mac and tire because he got involved
Yeah, it was personal for him. Yeah, he went to one like euro journalist who yeah, it was really chatty
There was a cloud wasn't even quoted in the original story about what happened.
And they're just like, oh my God, what an absolute degenerate.
Well, maybe there were some things are bigger than the game.
And this is one of those things.
Maybe there was a good thing that Kyle wasn't quoted because he seemed to make his case
see this is where you guys self-accriminate yourself.
Yeah, you essentially double down and this was like, why should I agree with four?
This is how I know you guys didn't read the stories.
This is the tone that you gave it.
No, why should I yell for?
When what he said was, yeah, a bunch of people had already yelled.
So I think like we were probably good.
It's like I didn't feel the need to because five of us had been yelled.
It wasn't, you know, I've been thinking about this for eight years and I'm going to take
a stance against yelling for.
And then he called Mac and Tyre out for being a rookie out there and all that.
All you to see was, yo, my bad, I'll yell for next time.
So you guys are much more about the optics of the situation than the actual principle.
That's incredible.
I was pleased that somebody called him out, I think, because I think this does happen a
lot.
I want to be clear, I do like people calling each other out for things.
Get a fuck.
I don't agree with what he called him out for, but I like it he did it.
That's a C-Way.
And B, you know, we've got some, we've got some heavy weights.
And I was going to say, can we introduce into the, into the record, Ernie L's,
ever heard of him, golfer, two time champion golfer of the year, sided with Magintire. He said,
I'm glad somebody finally took a stance. He even said his words. He said the beward. He proposed banning people who don't yell
for. He said, if there's video, so Roy's band, somebody hitting a shot. So Roy's be
banned. Is that what you're saying? Roy's been according to Mr. L. Yes. No, Roy didn't
hit somebody. He did hit somebody. Oh, he hit their phone. If you're yelling for, it shouldn't
matter whether you hit somebody. If it's going in the direction of people, you know what, if we're a head yelled for,
it might not have hit her phone.
She might have protected us.
I don't want to sound like a bad guy, but I think it's okay to hit people on the bounce.
It's not that big deal.
It's not an all-pick deal.
If you ever see that one, that clip at Capelua, I think it was last year, where some,
like, kept you at a wayward shot on 18, and it bounced, and the guy jumped in front of
it, so it would hit him.
And he was like, yes!
By the fall. and it bounced and a guy jumped in front of it so it would hit him. And he was like, yes!
By the fall.
Next season, Taki starts three or 64 days.
No, you guys got all whipped up by the headlines
and got swept up in a month.
Before even reading it, you had already made up your mind
on it.
I'd love to ask Tron, I remember a certain incident
in Greenville when I was taking a photo of you
laying down on the ground behind you
and you violently let your club go. and it hit me right in the face.
Did you yell for there?
There was a club not a ball.
It's exactly right.
No, the pediatrician's for policy explicitly states the player must play a shot in 45 seconds.
So what I'm saying is all the rules are out the way.
The player must yell for.
So where where you at?
Where were you on JB home today or Ricky today?
Both of them piped it up.
He's like, we're talking bands on those.
Let me read in my camera.
You have my attention.
I mean, it's clearly an issue.
The incident that happened is clearly not, I think.
DJ, I think to your point, Greenville, you were, you were, I was in a frost.
I was in a frost.
I feel like,
we're the media.
You were in coaching my professional.
He had a credential.
He had a credential.
I had a credential,
and I just, I just think the optics.
I just think Tron should have re,
and he should have handled it differently.
He should have apologized.
I was so apologized.
It would have gone away.
I wish I had, I still have the videos the way.
I'm saying that,
oh my god, I'm so fucking sorry. I'm so sorry. What would you have said? I was like, yeah, I still have the videos somewhere. I'm saying that, well, I'm so fucking sorry.
I'm so sorry.
Well, what would you have said is like,
yeah, I didn't ask DJ if he was okay,
because other people at RDS don't feel so okay.
Hey, nobody else did ask me about that.
And you know what else happened to Greenville that week?
Tron hit somebody's house, went over and signed a glove
for them, but did not yell for.
I did yell for.
I do not really recall that.
I do not recall that.
All right, well, I'm, I'm I'm gonna hear you guys getting.
Oh, way overly aggressive on yelling for. If you're gonna dig your heels in this much,
no, people are going to hold you to account every time you guys have a lot of video tapes,
golf shots out there. And if the people want to go back through,
it's a good commercial for the YouTube channel. If you want to go through and look at,
you know, these guys hitting wayward shots, when they're yelling for,
when they're not, I would encourage you to do so.
You're talking to the guy that cheekily calls out
every time somebody even remotely attempts to backstop.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Now your responsibility, now the stance you guys
have taken here is that every time,
every time somebody does this,
you need to be all over and roasting their ass.
That's the cross you bear.
And I would really like to see you guys
riding for some more specific bands as well. Okay. Players who should be banned. We talked a lot about bands on the
absolutely on the commissioner for a day. John's got a whole list. He's right implement.
Speaking of bands, they're so unfortunately tough transition. He's dead. He has died.
He has not won a major now in five years.
He came home to live out his last days.
He's spent them peacefully among friends.
There will be a celebration of life.
Is there a visitation?
No. Well, it's family only.
In lieu of flowers, we ask you you all subscribe to golf pass
But he is dead I'm sorry he has died
There is no coming back
Well you please explain the beginning of this bit.
Yeah.
Well, I just said to me, getting in the year, I kind of gave Rory an ultimatum where I was
just getting tired of, you know, this is Rory's week, will he win it?
And it's like, listen, if you don't want to major this year, he's dead to me.
He's gone.
And here we are.
He's dead.
Oh my God.
So who's next up?
Well, doctors have just informed me.
Dustin.
Dustin Johnson has 12 months to live.
Oh my God.
Eight months.
Oh yeah, 12 months.
If he does not win a major by the end of 2020,
it will in fact be fatal.
Gosh, is there any transcript? He needs a major transfer.
There's only one here, one major.
And that gets you on the transplant list.
I was gonna say, does Rory dying?
Does he, are there any organs he can harvest from Rory?
Oh no, well, maybe he's 61 degree wedge.
I was gonna say, yeah, it's just so good.
He drives it so good.
I don't know, he wants anything from Rory.
Yeah, so I appreciate you guys' thoughts,
prayers, concerns. Thank you for this is a tough time. Thank you for getting a
time for you. Yeah. We're saying in the Kille House, we might start a little
shrine photograph. Like putting up some just look like when you go and walk into a
church, you can like light a candle for certain people. I think we're going to
get someone going like that here to Kille House. So dearly depart Randy remembers.
Troy McElroy. Exactly. Next up, I think to discuss there was
what the transition is there. Yeah, I don't know. So let's get us
might be the best. Sander Shoffley.
We, you know, we of course, due to a live show after every round during major
championships, we did discuss this at length on Saturday's live show,
this broke Friday afternoon, I think after the live show,
it already been completed that then really started
with Buckington's head Saturday.
Yes, people were really, really fired up about
Zander Shoffley's driver being non-conforming,
which is of course a Callaway driver.
We will of course comment on it.
I think our disclaimer on this was like,
before we even had a chance to say anything about it,
like, oh, you guys are on the take from big equipment.
Like, yeah.
I mean, yeah, I think we're pretty open about that.
Kind of the point here, but we will of course comment on it,
but I think we are clearly have a conflict of interest
in this regard.
We wanna address that upfront.
However, I will say, so when I read the headline,
I don't know what your guys' reaction was,
but I thought like, oh shit, he just got
DQ'd for a non-conforming driver.
Yeah, I didn't really know how the process worked.
Which it should be, like, you know,
this could be a commissioner for a day thing,
but they should do a NASCAR style.
Which is, what's the after?
There's a final round to play.
After the final round, no, even if you test them
on Thursday, let them play.
Oh. Do it after the final round and say, this guy's been DQ. Turn around, no, even if you test them on Thursday, let them play.
Do it after the final round and say,
this guy's been DQ.
Do it publicly.
And then Ricky, my little major.
Martin's, Martin's Lumber is for,
I'm just a picture of him up in front of all the people
out of the 18th grade.
We'd like to welcome Shay Lowry, however.
Well, I think quickly, solid at your point,
I think of course, Coway supports
and are instrumental in a lot of projects
and things we're able to do.
But I do think we've been very candid about,
they're not telling us, we can have our own opinions on,
of course, we've been very open to the technology debate
in general.
So, we're also not gear heads.
Yeah, I think that's more of the issue.
Yeah, I don't think we weigh in on equipment stuff that much
because we don't really know it's not our block.
Except we make a lot of PXG troops trip.
Exactly.
Which was like also to my point was like,
I love the opinion that if this happened
to another equipment company,
we wouldn't be sitting here roasting the equipment company
on it because I think it's one,
I didn't know a lot of anything really
about this testing process.
So, part of the deal with what happened with Zander was that out of the 156 players in
the field, only 30 are tested.
And now, when they test somebody, the results are supposed to be private.
Now, I don't know how it got leaked out there.
I guess when Zander was walking around the range, somebody had made a joke to him about his
clubs being illegal.
And they got, I want to know who did that.
Yeah, I got to do.
Which so like the RNA had clearly not protected the confidentiality of this test.
So he gets tested Tuesday night and it finds out his limit is one point over it.
Characteristic time.
Characteristic time.
So basically it's like they do a measurement of how they'll swing something onto the face of a driver,
and basically see how long that sticks to the driver.
What the trampoline effect of the driver is.
The characteristic time has to be below a certain level, meaning it can't just suck into
the face and then trampoline back out.
That's it.
I'm getting this from the golf.com, Jonathan Walls, golf.com article.
So, the characteristic time that you're speaking on, the rule states that a measure of the
clubface's spring-like effect must be no higher than 239 microseconds, but a number
can go as high as 257 due to manufacturing tolerance.
So, it's common for drivers to have a CT in the high 250s during testing.
So, from what we've heard, all all the guys, like basically anybody on tour,
is trying to push that characteristic time up to the absolute limit.
And this is something they test for, and when this test was performed,
the characteristic time that like the Calloway was measuring on the range was different than the characteristic time that the
RNA was using.
And the one the RNA got was 258,
which is one point over the 257.
Now, Zander claims that there's-
All the limit under, correct.
He was making, Zander was throwing out
some actual specific equipment company names
that which I think has been kind of subject of debate.
He threw out the PXG, a PhD driver had failed.
Bob Parsons stated that that was not the case,
but that can be adjudicated in civilian court.
He also said that a tailor-made driver failed and golf.com reached out to tailor-made for comment and they did not comment.
to tailor-made for comment and they did not comment. So basically what came out of this was that people thought,
Xander was cheating and people think
Calaway is making super hot drivers,
which might explain why Big Randy's been driving the ball
so well this year.
We don't know.
We don't know the case of that.
In addition to all this, the characteristic time
of a driver can change with as few as a hundred center hits
in the middle of it.
So if you've used a driver for a while,
your driver might be getting hotter and hotter and hotter
because I don't even want to pretend
another science behind that.
But that is apparently the case,
like if the longer you use a driver,
the hotter it could be,
so which is why you need to test it.
But again, guys are kind of living so close
to that limit as it already was.
And if that driver was tested by Calloway,
it was still showing as being under,
which is what was confirmed with the RNA, I believe. Again, this may sound just like us explaining it away. This is explaining the facts
that we know about the scenario. I think it was painted very quickly as like Callaway is like
juicing hot ass drivers, which I don't cannot confirm or deny that, but I don't think that is the
complete representation of the story. The issues Ander had was like, dude, test everyone here.
Between two to four people failed in this, and his was the only one that got publicized,
like, why am I looking at out to be the, the, the pariah here?
Well, and yeah, I don't know how specific you got into this, but yeah, they only tested
30 guys in the field, right?
Yes.
And there's 156 players in the field.
And so the Sanders point was like, man, if we've had up to four fail out of 30, and then,
you know, there's a lot of other guys that are maybe
popper some of the field. Yeah, right. I mean, it's, it seems like kind of a no brainer
that that should be the next step to test that. But again, like I'm not, I'm not a statistician
or a testing specialist. I thought I was interesting. And I will try to get to a question here
throughout to the group. Xander mentioned like, hey, I get the clubs, I show up.
I use the clubs.
I put on a show.
I play the golf.
I saw he was getting some flack in the Twitter world
that like, hey man, you got to know your test scores
and you have to be responsible for that.
And it's like in the very, like most basic definition,
like yeah, he probably has to be responsible for that.
But what we learned in the cowboy truck with the ride along
was like some guys literally, they're just like,
yeah man, just hand me the clubs and I'm gonna go play.
Some guys are very involved in the club making process
and like no, all their specs and everything about them.
So I guess my question is, you know, is that do you think Xander is in the wrong for not,
you know, knowing that his driver's hot because I don't really put a lot of blame on him,
I guess.
I'm with, I think it is ultimately the player's responsibility.
I think the Bucks got to stop with them now this being that being said
I saw a couple analogies floating around of like the preparedness to a cork back situation like a bat exploding in cork fire
I don't think that could be any further off to be honest like this is not like a clear like not this is not a clear like blatant
Cheating of like well, let's just wait until I get caught which cork bat was sick because everybody's bats eventually break.
You were gonna get caught doing it.
And that I don't think is the comparison here.
I think it's like trying to live as close to that line as possible,
at least again, that's my limited gear head knowledge
and how the tour truck operates, that's my understanding.
And this is not the first time that this has happened.
This happened at Arne, like Arne did this test
in an open qualifying series event of some kind in Japan,
I think was the word that we had.
There were six failures there, and that wasn't publicized
because again, this is all supposed to not be publicized.
So that's how it all kind of came out,
was Xander, was malped off at the RNA,
was really pissed and called them out
at them not protecting the, you know,
whatever the sanctity of the driver test.
I think the two things for me that I'll be most curious to see
is, a, you know, our guy's gonna take their drivers
in this week in Memphis and Reno and say,
hey, you know, like, Tor Trucks here, let's test this,
let's get it B, you know, I think we're all for like,
the governing body should govern.
Like, and I think that's part of the deal here is like,
the fact that, you know, this is a once a year type thing
that it seems like we're all right, cool.
If this is a big issue and the governing bodies think it is, then do it more than once
a year and do it right and do it to the whole field.
Don't just have, all right, cool, we're going to cherry pick a small sample size over
here, voice it upon these guys when, when, you know,
especially if these things change over time, yeah.
You know, week to week, month to month.
Yeah, the way I kind of net out
is kind of somewhat similar to the, to the Stanley thing
was like, I think people read a bunch of headlines
and form their opinion off that.
And like, people call them a cheater and stuff like that.
It's like, dude, you gotta be, I've learned my lesson on this one too.
Like you gotta be damn sure if you're gonna use that word.
And I know kind of,
some of the other players were joking with him about it,
but man, it's not fun to even have the rumors around you,
like floating around like that.
When I don't,
like I truly am a heart of hearts,
I don't think that is the case.
Yeah, no, I totally agree.
I mean, I think, I think, yeah, that's what,
you don't see Zander get fired up about very much stuff.
And, you know, I think that, to his point, like, nobody's going to take,
like, it's an effort to read about this stuff and an effort to learn about how the test works and all that stuff,
which is an effort that I don't blame any of these people,
but most casual golf fans are just not going to go through, you know.
I'm raising my
hand.
Exactly.
Like, I think there's going to be a lot of people around metaphorical water coolers tomorrow
just be like, oh, yeah, you hear the Xander was cheating.
Yeah.
And like, that's, that's what sucks for him is, I think the deeper you dig into this and
you can, you know, you can say that we're, we're biased or explaining it away again.
Like you said, but the, the deep you dig into this, the less it seems like an issue and
that's kind of where I'm at.
It's a shitty kind of PR thing for Xander and Calloway.
And even, I mean, you know, PXG and TaylorMade
and the companies that got thrown out
as speculating for failing the same thing.
It's like, if you don't have transparency on this stuff,
then like it's gonna be unfair to a lot of people, it seems like.
Which credits golf.com for their article, I thought the golf channel original article was pretty much bullshit. I mean, it's just be unfair to a lot of people, it seems like. Which credits golf.com for their article,
I thought the golf channel original article
was pretty much bullshit.
I mean, it's just like socialized.
There was no telling of the story there.
You can read that whole article
and walk away thinking kind of similar
to how people are feeling, I think, which is,
like if the golf.com article tells a lot more complete story,
I think, into a situation.
I think there's more to it,
even like this will continue to develop as we go along over the rest of the season. Well, I wonder if it will. Because this
was a clarity. It was an RNA test, right? So like, if that's what to your point about, like,
what's going to happen when they go to Memphis this week? Like, probably nothing. Unless I don't
know, does the tour do this stuff every week? Like, I don't think so. I think that was Anders
Point was they kind of test the driver models with the manufacturer and the USGA and all that stuff.
But I don't think there's somebody on the range that Memphis testing to see if drivers are
conforming or not. So, probably won't be an issue until we get back to the open chainmanship
next year. Or if the USGA wants to come to. Which is telling too that the USGA is never,
like this is never really popped up at a US open. Yeah. Well, I think we're ready to move on
from that and mention the Calaway
epic flash driver is and the harder than ever.
No, what do you guys think of the the schedule?
The way the major championships came played out this year.
And there were some comments leading up to it.
I know Justin Rose was kind of saying he didn't like the new schedule and kind
of it was hard for him to peak his game at particular times in that tight
time frame.
Bolinari had some things to say about it.
I think afterward and whatnot.
What do you guys think of how, as a golf fan, what did you think of the major schedule?
I think the PGA, kind of how early it's really ending up.
It's only three or four weeks early.
I know.
Then before.
I think that's part of it.
And then now it's like, the golf season really gets started as far as watching golf.
January, February, March, West Coast swing, you know, players in March.
Now like, I know we joke a lot about the players, but it's a legitimately big event.
And it's these guys tournament, like they all take it seriously.
So I think it's, you know, now it feels like it's actually less time between the last
big event of the year as far as the major season and the first big one next year.
I think I think it's an important overblown distinction. I mean, it's hard. Obviously you can't speak for the players.
You know, if they feel like they don't have time to peak and I wouldn't begin to understand what the hell that sentence like even means.
But as a golf fan, like you said, I think it's I think it's actually really good like it's good and it's bad
And it's good from the sense that I've loved having one a big one big event a month
And it's been really cool like it feels like we've kind of had a lot of
Critical mass or whatever momentum since March since the players like it's been really fun to kind of go all in for a week
And then kind of recede back with the tide a little bit.
And that's the flip side of this is,
I don't know that it's good for everybody, necessarily.
Like I don't know that it's great for, you know,
a lot of these PJ tour events that like I've never been,
I've said this a bunch on the pod,
but I've never been more checked out of the non-major events
from March to August than I have been this year. And maybe that's the hyper-major events from March to August that I have been this year.
And maybe that's hyper-personal and I know you guys have kind of said,
maybe that's what it's always like, but I'll be very interested.
It'd be great if someone could do kind of a deep dive on ratings and stuff this year
and how these events were affected because if you guys want to sit here and
all throw out a tournament, you guys tell me literally even who won.
We saved that for Keppeloo a a couple of weeks ago, five weeks ago.
Like I would do worse at that game now than I ever have.
On the flip side, I do feel like the, maybe the, like the masters PGA, US Open Stretch was
jam packed.
And I do, and to your point, it felt like that was extremely like it just degraded the
run of the mill regular tour events that much more to where, I mean, shit, look at the
cat.
Well, that's the most or like, literally among the most jarring stats of the years, that
from the masters to the playoffs, right?
Tigers going to play one non major.
What do you, what would he have in the moral? He played play one non-major. What do you have in the Memorial?
You played though, is my question though.
I think I mean, usually plays Wells Fargo
like when he's talking.
Well usually the players is there.
Yeah.
So then usually he would, he'd play Wells Fargo,
he'd play, he had his tournament in DC.
Yeah.
So I mean, yeah, the new schedule is played
when them or Akron used to.
Akron, yeah.
That's usually, yeah, right after, yeah.
That's good point.
Now he's skipping Memphis this year.. Yeah, that's usually yeah, right after yeah, it's good point. He's skipping Memphis this year
I mean it is kind of I don't want to get in Kyle Porter Memphis Twitter the battle here
But tough scene oh man the Kyle Kyle a simple picture of like an aerial port Russian saying now imagine playing a golf tournament in Memphis next week
It must have been a mess with the three six mafia
Might have been the three six mafia that's sick to the Memphis Twitter all over a man.
It was a tough scene in his mentions.
It was mine.
It was awesome.
Any, like Phil may be skipping,
I think he said this week, Tiger skipping.
Russell Knox is in laundry.
We're not even sure if he's qualified.
He said there was a tweet about like a big bruha
at Russell Knox is skipping Memphis.
I don't even know if he's qualified.
But it's a tough transition.
I don't know for us, it's kind of, it's hashtag good for business when the majors are
going on.
People are more interested in pro golf in general.
That being over is kind of like look back after the years, not a ton for us to really
get excited about, but it also means we can go to other things.
Yeah, I mean, that's kind of a wild feeling.
Like it's weird to think about literally eight months
are going to go by with, you know, between majors.
That's, I know it's only a month of difference,
but I don't know, it just feels like, it feels like,
agree, like it should feel like an offseason.
There really isn't still, you know,
like the schedule is still going to keep going along.
And that's kind of what I'm saying is it just feels like more of an offseason.
Like you can treat it like an actual offseason. And also, I feel like the first major of the year
seems like kind of a misnomer because whether it's an April or March, like guys get
guys starting to get tuned up in January and really
get going with their games. So I feel like that's, that's kind of irrelevant. I'm going to watch
golf in January regardless of if there's a major or not. I think the other thing that, you know,
just a little bit jarring is like, we haven't mentioned the playoffs. It's like the playoffs aren't
even, you know, like for me personally, this is one of my favorite times of the year for watching, watching the guys in the
fringes. Like it's like, it's like, it's all going to Reno this week. Like I'm,
I've been dying to go to that event just because it's like the one last
gas before the windum for guys to get into, you know, kind of jockey for
position into that 125.
This is like watching the, like watching the FedEx Cup standings is fun.
And it's the most relevant time of the year.
It's the guys are playing for their livelihood.
It's guys on the web tour, the Cornferri tour.
I'm going out to Portland in a few weeks too.
I'm fascinated with that's golf that actually matters.
Yeah, I mean, it's going to sound very quite hip-story,
but what not.
But it's watching the top 70 or whatever players
in the week next week in Memphis get, you know,
World Golf ranking points and fat checks
isn't that intriguing to me right now.
But then on the flip side of,
all right, who gets into that 125?
Once you're into the 125, like, I kinda check out
because you've already accomplished the goal.
If you get a big ass check or not, I don't really care.
Seeing John Merrick had 9.5 million in career earnings yesterday,
it was, that was jarring.
That was, John Marik Twitter came after.
Yeah, they were really fucked up.
People were right for the elephant man.
He had made a hole in one at Barbersaw,
and they had listed him as notable being in 27th place.
And I was like, dude, I don't,
I had a lost track of what the word notable means.
And people were not happy with that.
He then shot, I think 76. Was that notable?
Which at the barbersol was like shooting 150.
Want to give a shout out to Lee Westwood.
T4 is going back to the masters next year.
Right record at the masters.
That was is he the is he the new favorite for Augusta next year could be.
I love watching Westwood play golf because it's because he can't chip.
He chipped great this week. No, that part was tough. Like that was tough. Part today was legitimately like that was PTSD. There may be a lot of feelings that
came rushing back once he whips that putt. But no, it's just he's just he's like a
Monty level ball striker. Oh, yeah. What what do you guys think? We we touch we
talk some port rush, but where does port rush sit in the road now?
Do you wanna see it and open, go back there?
Are you taking something out of the road?
What happens here with the road?
I don't know how the road actually works.
Like is it?
Is there any,
let's just pretend we do.
I was gonna say,
is there any reason that there has to be a fixed number
of courses can you just add it in?
It seems somewhat subjective.
I mean, it's a lot more distinct than the USGA,
but I don't think there's a set other than the old course,
which Randy hates.
Well, I think Martin Slumber said this week,
like the question was,
can you see this event going outside of
into other countries and into continental Europe?
He said, no, we have like, we keep like a rota.
So it sounds like to me, Port Rush is now in the rota.
And I think officially turnberries out basically for theota. So it sounds like to me, Port Rush is now in the rota. And I think officially turnberries out,
basically for the moment.
So it seems like, so I don't know.
I think, you know, we talked about this,
some on the live show, but basically that's where Randy had said
that he wants the old course to, you want the old course,
you don't put houses up there, right?
It's incredible.
You guys are disgusting.
The question was, if you had to chop a course
from the current rota to make your room room for Port Rush what would it be?
And you're...
And I threw out the old course out of love and respect and admiration for it.
I'm like...
Because I'm tired of seeing it desecrated.
Defiled.
Exactly.
You don't like them putting T-boxes out of bounds and putting them all over on the Himalayas?
Exactly.
They got to put the T-boxes on a whole different course.
I'm all ears.
Yeah, my bad.
So, as some people who had my back on Twitter said, like, hey, there's a reason why PressWik
doesn't host the open anymore.
From Osaburo.
Whoa, Osaburo.
Whoa, that's kind of...
My brain is enlarging right now, I think.
So, it's out of love for the old course that I'm...
They should, anything very serious.
If they go to the old course, it's gotta be a fixed ball.
Like everyone plays the same ball in that week.
2021's gonna be very interesting.
Go back for that, the 150th.
I mean, it's the only place where they had to delay play
because of the wind.
Like, it's ridiculous.
It's...
Because they had to dial the greens up and put the pick.
Exactly.
Like, if that's not evidence enough of,
hey, something's wrong here, then you will address me as a son.
I'm gonna fuck who we are.
I'm gonna hit my ball till it stops oscillating.
How can he's act like that?
That's what I'm saying.
People are coming around on kept guys.
I'm coming around on kept.
Yeah, that's Nike, man.
Well, he takes care of everything.
Well, what was night, I mean, he didn't really roast home's
quite as bit as I think we were hoping,
but he did roast him pretty good afterwards.
But like, we were counting on him.
Like, we, he now has our trust.
And as he's finishing that back nine, we're like,
dude, his post-round interview is going to be the best thing.
He's the torchbearer for the war.
Yes, he's going to do this.
He's our only hope.
And, yeah, I'm surprised he didn't stuff JB Holmes in a locker on the way.
But going back to the road of thing, DJ, which, which course are you chopping?
I don't, I don't know, it's a hard question.
I haven't dove into some of the past ones as closely as I would have liked.
I mean, Royal St. George's, I couldn't tell you a ton about that golf course.
I don't remember it much.
I remember, I remember, of course, Ricky
playing well. I think everybody remembers that. But I don't remember much about
the course. I guess I'd say that one. It's an easy answer. But I think my
my take would be I can close my eyes. So a picture of this is kind of like a
Goldilocks situation. There's three. Like three of my children are
Lhythm and Burkdale and Liverpool. And I got a poison one of them.
And like just pick one, that's fine.
But they probably shouldn't be three in that area.
I think I love all three of those courses.
I love all my children equally.
But you can probably take one away from that area
if you had to take one out.
I think for me that's Liverpool.
And I love Huy Lake.
I think it's a great, great course.
I just don't, you know, it's flat.
And it's just like we're talking about
some of the coolest golf courses in the world.
I feel like it's a better club than a course.
I could see Trune.
I could argue Trune.
That's my number two.
Yeah, I think Trune could come out.
I think, you know, it's hard to take St. George's away
just because the only, that's those three in England
and then St. George's are the only ones.
And it's on the far other side.
Yeah, it's a completely different side of that whole island.
Scotland, you know, they're pretty decently well spread out.
I mean, I know St. Andrews and Carnivus are close,
but I wouldn't cut either one of those. Sorry, Big Randy.
But you know, it's just on the guts.
I'm going to be some truth.
I mean, I'm over here making the tough choice.
Randy wants to have a freaking open at Colin.
I was listening to that.
Max, for sure.
Yeah.
It's open eligible.
Yeah.
There's a groundswell of support for that idea.
I think.
All right, let's close it out.
And you can do any of these.
You can do all of these.
We're going to recap our major season.
Your favorite moment that happened in a major,
your funniest moment,
or your biggest disappointment. You can do all three, you can do one, you can do two,
what's sticking out to you guys? Is this the major season or the season of championship?
Let's stick it to major season three. We'll do a separate podcast for the season.
Bill is off in a bunch of major. Well, only one of those springs to mind immediately
and I'm happy to answer all three, but I want to get on with the funniest moment of
major season, you're going to steal mine.
I think it's everybody.
So it's Zach Johnson.
Damn.
I think that's everybody's right?
Is Zach Johnson whipping on a practice wig,
yelling, oh shit.
Now what?
Now what?
Like that's,
you didn't whip water practice.
He hit the ball water practice.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
And I mean, that's just, literally,
I think that's as good as,
man, I put Tiger as prime my number one memory, Tiger winning, that's just, literally I think that's as good as,
I put Tiger as probably my number one memory,
Tiger winning the Master's probably my number one memory
of this season and I put that as number two.
How long go does that feel?
It was like six years ago.
TC.
Go to Randy first.
Randy.
So you kinda stole mine there.
It was ZJ, that was the funniest moment.
I think Tiger for sure, you should be a non-T the funniest moment. I think Tiger for sure,
you should be a non-Tiger Captain moment.
Yeah, I think I still will probably remember
most enduring Kebka winning the PGA.
But yeah, this is a good question.
I'm, I'm, it's low key like quietly, forgettable.
Yeah, I was going to say like the US Open all it can remember,
really thing is like, I kind of disappointed it seemed to be playing a little
benign, woodland obviously played exceptionally.
Kind of disappointed.
You hashtag not my US Open.
You slept through it intentionally.
I think that's why I gave that.
There should be, the ball doesn't spin anymore.
So crazy shit doesn't happen as much anymore.
It's actually not crazy shit happens.
Well, especially in the wind,
like these guys can just pierce it through
with these kind of knuckle balls
and it doesn't, like it doesn't get beat up
or it doesn't.
Again, the topic is your favorite and funny as well.
Well, I think that's why I'm struggling to find some options
of funny moments.
The exact sounds one, stuff to that.
That is, if I think you give you another second.
Yeah, go ahead.
Today, maybe this is a recency bias,
but Hendrick Stenson hitting a cold,
cold, clean, shank today,
and a scream going to, like,
other side of a gate, and it cutting to him and him just so
predictably snapping the club over his knee. I thought he was gonna re-snap it into four pieces
it looked like. The whole sequence was just art and it's probably definitely recently biased
for that needed of mention. I agree. I mean, in the tiger moment, specifically for me, when he walked
off the green and he screamed
as his son ran towards him, and he hugged him, that was like the first time that I'd
ever felt like I was rooting for Tiger instead of like I was selfishly wanted to see him
win. That was, that was a moment, I thought.
I'm going back to that same day.
That was a great moment.
I love the fact that they moved the T times up.
I thought that was was that was fun.
That was one of the few times that I actually liked then moving T times up when Molenari
hit in the water. That was that was yeah, that was wild. And CBS like neglected to show
the shot that led to oh, you mean on 15 on 15'm 15. Yeah, okay, we hit the water on 12.
On 12, and then the water on 15,
it was like, holy shit, this is happening.
Yeah, that was very real.
I think a category should have been the time
that we all yelled,
shh, from the levels in the kill house.
Probably stents and snapping the clasps.
I think so.
Yeah, that was awesome.
I put the Jordan and Greller
kind of interpersonal issues at the US open. That was high. I don't know which category I put it in, but that was a highlight for me.
I was the name most disappointing. That was hard to say. It was like just
Intra personal within Jordan. Yeah, that might be in other ways that you know taking it out on Mike the alpha
Well, I think the other question is a big one that we can probably all answer,
which is who's the biggest disappointment of your major season.
I think what is the biggest disappointment?
What is?
I was thinking who is, but yeah, it can be either way.
Besides Rory, he's now,
well of course he's a part of it.
I'm gonna discuss it from beyond the grave.
Honestly, I don't know.
The first thing I thought it was DJ,
but even your second to the master's did,
it might not be the best one.
But I'm just thinking it's kind of a joint between,
it's gotta be speed, I guess.
Like, he just, you know, I know we kind of said all year
that it just feels like he's kind of faking it
and it's kind of smoking mirrors and it turned out
it kind of was at all, all the majors he was in contention at,
you know, it just, he looked like he was going to be able to hold it together
until he didn't and kind of slowly faded.
It felt like whack-a-mole.
Like, you know, he's got, you know, gets four out of five things figured out
and then driving pops, rears its ugly head,
and then it gets driving figured out and putting popped up.
And it felt like he did so much in the positive direction.
His birdie percentage is still ridiculous,
but he just gave too many shots away.
And I think he would say the same thing.
I think Flea was high on that list for me too.
I mean, he was playing so well coming into the majors
that it just seemed like he was so ripe to pick one of them off
and then got himself in contention at a bunch of them.
And it just...
Part of it too, it's too late.
You want to see him win so badly.
Yeah. Yeah. Good guy.
So, like, can we talk about JT a little bit?
Of course.
Like, he finished T17 of the 2018 Masters, T25 at the US Open last year, cut at the Open
Championship, presented by whatever.
Tough draw.
T6 at last year's PGA Championship, and then T12 at the Masters this year.
Missed the PGA.
With the tournament.
Yeah.
Cut at the US Open, T11 at the Open.
I got, I feel like I was expecting to see after 2017 JT.
I was like, Dan JT is like clearly the best player in the world.
He's got this unlimited upside.
I feel like since then it's kind of yeah. No top fives and majors since he
since he won it in 2017. That's eight majors. And you won twice this year.
Oh, sorry, sorry. Last year, I was gonna say that's new.
18. He hasn't won this year. Like it just seems like, all right, man, like we're we're waiting for it.
And I'm and I mean this in kind of a complimentary way. It's like, hey, like you're you're
ceiling is like higher than any. Well, I think not even waiting for it. Like we saw it.
Like he won.
Yeah.
Six times in one year and it was player of the year.
Like that was, that was nuts.
And it, it feels like a long time ago.
But as far as the majors go, it's like, yeah,
winning six times in one year is a precursor to, all right, cool.
Like you, you win a major for, you know, once for the next three years,
every year, or you win two in the same year.
Like that's those are things where if you can win a major in back to back years,
that's kind of a sign of, all right, that's an alpha move. I feel like he hasn't had an alpha move
since he won the PGA.
No, I don't have an explanation for it. I think he would probably say the same thing that
he was expecting more success after that. I don't even know what the issue necessarily
is. It doesn't seem to be like, oh, putting his holding him back or driving holding him
back, it does not sustain that kind of elite level.
It's almost like DJ, right?
It's like, what's holding DJ back?
Yeah, I just need to win every week.
What's going on?
I mean, it's kind of like day, DJ, and now JT have all had
that 18 month run that was just absurd,
and they've come back to Earth from it,
and they kind of don't...
In Roy.
Oh shit.
Rory won four major, so like the day JT and DJ and all one wanted.
And DJ's won 20 times on tour.
That's not maybe the best comparison, but that one stretch he had was absolutely nuts.
I think what he won like nine times in an 18 month span or something like that.
So I don't know what the what the sciences of that, but I hope it's not like like kind of
deteriorating into that J. Day category of, you know, is he
are we going to see him win another major again?
deteriorating J. Day in the same sentence. I'm in for that.
You're here for that. So for next year's majors, who let's
think ready to do that? Let's talk early early picks.
Oh, she's like, quickly before we do that, my disappointment is it's looking to be like
the end's knife for Philip Alfred.
Oh man, I just, I've been holding out hope in my heart
that there's a US open out there for him to win
and I just don't know how it's not happening.
Are you gonna use the knife?
I don't think you can really use the knife,
somebody who's 49 years old and I think it's one five majors up but
we're just you'd euthanize a 30 year old who's one four. Well I'm saying like the
decline is to be expected at this point but it's just disappointing. I'm
kind of trying to I'm going through the five stages of grief with he's probably
not going to win the US open. It's someone who'm going through the five stages of grief with he's probably not going to win the US Open.
It's like he's going through those stages.
It's some of his quotes about how he was like post-winning and like, I'm just kind of
showing up to, you know, I'm not even worried about winning.
Like Tom Watson though, Tom Watson, you know, he almost won the Open at 62 or 61, 59, 59,
whatever.
Yeah.
But, well, if the US Open's gonna be a birdie fest,
who knows, but traditionally, I would say
that the US Open, you know, he's not gonna be able to come.
And you know, Mikkelson doesn't give a shit
about playing on the senior tour.
Yeah, I don't know where I met out with that Rainy
because it's not like he's losing distance
at a certain age, and I don't think it's like
flexibility, he's losing or talent. It's just weird how it works. Like I don't think it's like flexibility. He's losing or talent.
It's just weird how that works.
Like I don't think we were expecting Ernie
to pick one more off when he did.
And maybe, I don't know, I don't think the 2013 open
was like an unexpected, like Phil's last stand
or one last major.
I don't want to rule out that he could compete
for another one because he does summon something.
When it's going for him, he gets momentum going.
And I know he's not close now,
but if I can give you a little bit of hope,
a little bit of life, you know, that tunnel,
I don't wanna say it's all the way over.
I think it's worth noting too,
that there's an difference between winning
in a US Open and winning another major.
Well, that's why I was gonna say,
I think he'll compete at the Masters in,
he'll be on the front page on a Saturday,
but the US Open specifically,
he's not winning that.
The sharpness, it's almost like speed.
It's the same syndrome that's speed suffering right now.
It's just something, whether it's this one day
or that the other day, it's just not all clicking.
I mean, we're talking about,
it's one this year, too.
You want a pebble, allegedly.
Yeah.
And that's why, kind of this year,
with the US Open being a pebble, I was, you know,
trying to convince myself, maybe this is the year.
It's going to have to be a surprise one.
Right. It's like, wing foot, there's going to be no surprise there. It's going to be
so the return. So anyway, that's that's my disappointment.
Mm-hmm. So yeah, let's look to 2020.
All right. What are we making picks right here?
I mean, if we're making picks right now,
I'm picking Brooks to win all four.
We got to talk about the, all right,
so you got obviously Gusta and then you've got
Harding Park for the PGA.
Weanfoot.
Weanfoot of the US Open and then Royal St. George.
Yeah, I'm going to speed Keppka, Keppka, Keppka.
So can I just say Keppka's finished in the top four
of May in seven out of the last eight majors?
Seems pretty good.
Or excuse me, six out of the last seven majors.
It seems pretty good.
And you can certainly say that with three wins.
That's factual.
If you need them.
Nuts, I mean, again, it just kind of gets brushed off.
Oh yeah, we finish fourth, it's kind of disappointing.
But again, all the guys you have to beat
to finish fourth is significant and noteworthy.
I'm gonna go with Rob for the Masters.
I think he's got a strong name.
He's working really hard on really keeping his composure up.
Robbo is DJ, I like to call him that thing.
What a bullshit thing. No one calls him Robbo. It's like the castans a T-bone thing where he's trying to start his own nickname.
I've never heard anyone outside of a Taylor Mankham or just a Colin Rombo.
I just want to get that on the record.
You know, we don't comment on other quick,
that these areas.
There's nothing to do with the equipment.
It's just bad branding.
T.C. who you're picks.
I think I don't think the cash should show up
in Harding Park.
Well, real quickly, cold and damp.
What is, like who does Harding Park favor?
Do we have to do it? I just don't know how it's gonna be a love.
I just don't know how it's gonna set up.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I thought they were last year, it just felt like it was gonna be.
Brooks.
Yeah, it just felt like they're gonna shoot.
Well, I talked to a buddy.
He'd be five under par.
A buddy of mine, Brian Jackson, Luzant and San Francisco.
He played there a couple weeks ago.
He plays there a lot.
He said they've basically taken the fairways in by 50 to 60%.
Which is when we were there in February.
And we played white T's where like their T boxes are,
I mean, it's gonna be a typical like PGA setup now,
like it's gonna be a prox, it's gonna be long,
it's gonna be tight, and it's gonna be kind of like Beth Page.
I don't think the rough there is nearly as low-key thick,
I think it's just one C in the rough,
and the thickness of that rough, but.
I'm picking DJ, okay.
I think it's gonna be a bomber, I guess guess we can probably say that that's the early favorite.
I also think we can probably cover these in the preview podcasts next year as we see
who's training.
Oh, but it's always fun.
I think Shoffley has a real good chance to pick off a major.
Yeah.
Whether that be Augusta or the PGA or US Open.
We're all saying George, the Rictator.
Oh my God.
Ricky's gonna win on.
I think 2020 is his year, man.
He's sniffin' around.
It's the Olympic year, you know, he's gonna be inspired
by that, he's got the tattoo.
What does that do to the schedule?
When are the Olympics next year?
I was in August, aren't they?
Well, I think it depends only,
depends on the July, August.
The hemisphere you're in, I think.
But we're in the Northern hemisphere.
Yeah, the German Olympics, July 24th, August 9th.
So I'm guessing it's going to be right after the UK British Delta.
So today is July 21st.
And I think they played the golf the second week, if I'm remembering correctly.
That makes sense.
So they'll probably have the British a week off and then got how stoked he wants to get
the drugs.
We talk a lot about forgotten man.
How forgotten is Hadecki?
Right.
How long has gone?
Can I tell you, this week was the first time he's missed a cut since the open last year.
And yet he feels like he's playing like garbage.
Yeah, completely irrelevant.
No, I saw that stat like shook me in my tracks.
Like I did. Yeah. No memories of him during that irrelevant. No, I saw that stat like shook me in my tracks. Like I did, yeah.
No memories of him during that time.
No.
Other than he made appearance on the leaderboard of the PGA.
Yeah.
Coming in parts.
Are any of these kids gonna sniff around?
Yeah, Matt Wolf is probably gonna win the PGA.
It's like the fly in the ointment, right?
Yeah, right.
In a Morakawa Wolf.
Young Hope.
In a wing foot.
Can I get you guys picks?
Who's gonna win the FedEx? Got playoffs.
15 million dollars.
You can say.
15 million.
Who could possibly.
Well, first of all, who's gonna win the win?
I think it'll be somebody.
I think it'll be somebody just so dumb
in becoming of the FedEx like Kutcher.
Boom, perfect.
I'm taking Bryson.
Yeah.
Or Bryson.
Well, DJ was all upset today.
But Brooks, that's how it's gonna be. Overtook Kutcher. Oh, DJ was all upset today that Brooks over took a
coochie.
Oh, we didn't know.
I don't know if that's true.
I don't know if that's true.
I'm looking it up.
That is huge.
How do we not lead with that?
We're scrambling to this.
According to my projections, the dream is dead.
Well, according to my projections, it looks like Brooks was only, you know only 85 or so points behind Coochir in
the FedEx Cup.
So I would think with what it Brooks finished fourth, I would think he's probably going
to pass him.
It's going to be really close, but I would think he's probably going to pass Brooks to take
over the number one spot in the FedEx Cup.
Is Brooks playing Memphis?
I assume he is.
But well, I mean, I'll be there.
I'll be there.
But that's kind of thing.
So, like, the only reason I think this is interesting is because there's a very real
possibility that, like Brooks and Couture could be neck and neck going to, going into
wind him.
And whoever is leading the FedEx Cup list at the end of the year, wins $2 million.
And Brooks, like, literally might not show up to try to win.
There's no way he plays wind him.
If he's like 10 points behind or 10 points ahead,
like, Coocher, of course, will show up.
Yeah.
But like, what if Brooks just is like,
that I'm fucking good, man, I gotta don't care.
Well, on that topic, and it's,
do you imagine a more folk hero?
Well, someone related, he might be pocketing
the A on risk reward challenge.
Is he up on that?
He's currently tied for first with DJ,
which is literally in the Jason's day.
Literally another million dollars.
Yeah.
So he may just say, you know what?
I got the A on money.
I'm good.
I got that A on money.
How about the fact that I don't need the window money
and we're all going to play for the FedEx money.
The top five
Oh, and that are DJ
Brooks Jason day
Jason co-crack
See it seems like I don't know I got to do some digging it seems like it might favor the longer
Which is really great to see the get rewarded
my favorite the longer. Which is really great to see the get rewarded.
Just to put a bow on that, if Brooks wins all of that stuff,
anyone goes out and wins the FedEx Cup.
I know it's a big if, but he's the best player in the world.
It's $18 million of just like free money,
just the off the course.
That's insane.
It might retire.
I would for sure.
But not like for him to win the FedEx cup though,
it would require him now to win a regular event
which he won't do.
So.
Well, he's already like 1200 par or something
to start into our championship.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
That's his fucking sweepstakes.
I forgot about that.
That's an absolute sweepstake.
Are we truly in the nest?
I'm kind of excited to watch the championship for the first time.
I am serious.
We'll bury this in the fair.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
That's better than most.
How about him?
That is better than most.
Better than most.
Better than most.
Expect anything different.
Expect anything different.