No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 234: WGC FedEx St. Jude Classic/Barracuda Recap

Episode Date: July 29, 2019

Brooks Koepka wins the WGC in Memphis. We discuss our feelings around this event, Rory, Memphis, and WGC's in general. We also discuss Morikawa's win at the Barracuda, and our week on site and one of golf's most unique events. We mix in some listener voicemails, and discuss the upcoming Playoffs as well. Thanks for tuning in.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No-Lang-Up podcast. We have WGC FedEx, St. Jude Classic. We have the Barakuda Championship. We have what was the Cornfair event named this week?

I know it was in Springfield. It was a lot of great names. We had the AVEON Championship on the LPGA tour and we have the UK British show British senior open presented by her majesty, the Queen and Ken Duke and Ken Duke and goodbye duty for you. Played in Ken Duke's home country. Got a kid we'd get a e-mode about that. That's like a three-year-old joke we've had to go.

A lot to a lot to break down here. I think we're going to start with the Memphis event, which I think none of us were too excited about going into it. Did it meet or fail to meet, meet, or exceed your expectations? Well, first of all, hello. Hello, DJ.

How are you? I, I, I, I try and how are you? I'm great. Okay. Good to see you. I mean, it's getting lit out in Reno. It is. We are recording before Reno ends,

so if more a Cala wins than, regrettably, we won't be able to comment It is. We are recording before Reno ends, so if more Akala wins, then, regardless of, we won't be able to comment on that. We'll be doing live reaction as we're watching it. It'll be really cool. So I think, with regards to Memphis, I think two things can be true. I think one, you hate kids. Yes, well said. And cancer is sick.

Yeah, those are the two things. No, I think one, it can be an awesome thing for the city of Memphis. I can be super happy for everybody who was out there seeing events or seeing all these players. I think everybody, you know, who's been, they've been going to TPC Southwind

since like 1989 every year, FedEx, the biggest supporter of the tour. Memphis event has been around since, I don't even know, like, long time. 50, 60, 70 years, something like that. I have nothing but good things to say about the city of Memphis hosting this. You don't want Memphis to do that.

No, I think you see why all the Memphis people got so fired up was because there's a lot of deserving cities in the world and that's why I think the WGC's should move around a little bit. Memphis did nothing wrong. This is the Tours ball. But I think number two thing that can be true is I don't have to be that excited to watch it. I was not that excited to watch it.

It's, you can't feel bad about that either. You know what I mean? I can't take excitement for an event and that's where I think a lot of the hostility about the event going into the week was coming from. And like I wouldn't have tuned in today if it wasn't for Rory Brooks. And that actually ended up being extremely disappointing viewing today anyways. I think I think it's what happens when you like design things on paper. They look great where it's like it is a good city and a good host course and a good field and a great deserving charity and all those things. And it's like, guys, this is like, come on, on paper, this looks so good.

I'm like, yeah, but it just, there's no such like soul to it. I don't know what to tell you. Well, and then for years, I know Tron has really followed the Reno event. Bear could have very closely over the years. And to me, it's just never really fully grabs. I could never fully fully captured me. And I know it's kind of hard for us because out there, like more people care about hearing about WGC

than they do Reno. But for us, I don't know, the story, I think, is a lot more interesting than the guys grinding for cards than the fat cats getting fatter and richer and Brooks cruising to a victory. Like, I don't know, maybe it's just because we've gotten to know a lot of decent amount of guys that kind of like, the game was in the game.

They jump rope at 125 line and battling for cards. And I just find that way more interesting. And I think, you know, just, we're gonna talk more renal lately later. We're gonna start, of course, with Memphis. But just being out there and seeing some of those old guys grinding too and like just seeing like where their place is in the game.

And it's just, it kind of, I don't know, it was not heartbreaking because I mean, it's all relative. A lot of these guys have made tens of millions of dollars playing golf and whatnot, but I just have way more respect for the grind after seeing. There's not many points available. Barakuda and guys have to have a top five finish to really make an impact on their standing. There's almost like two throwback things going on on tour this week.

Barakuda, I've never been to it, but from everything you guys have said and from everything I've seen and heard, it just feels like a throwback event, it feels like what the tour used to be like when guys were driving from a event to event and kind of going out to the casinos at night and hanging out with each other and just a lot, like, less serious is not the way to say it, but just a lot more laid back and a lot more, like, approachable for a normal human being. I think that feels very laid, like, very throwback. And I think think that feels very like very throwback. And I think the Memphis like crowds

feels very throwback. I think where, you know, talk to a lot of people on site and like the crowds were massive and they're used to seeing like kind of a shitty field. The week, it's always what, the week before the US Open, week after the US Open.

Week before the US Open. So occasionally, you know, you get dust in and you get a couple guys who like like to play the week before a major, but typically the field's just not great. And so so this week it sounds like they all got to you know It like almost feels kind of jarring and shocking to see how much lower the scores go this week I know Dustin shot 19 under last year, but that was kind of an outlier if you look back I was like, I gave this a greatest player of all time. Exactly. Well said now he's on his death

But I think those fans like, you know it feels, you feel a lot more local excitement, which feels very throwback as well. The problem is like, it's just so hard to get that to translate to TV or to the, you know, us sitting here in Jacksonville. You know, it's, it's, it's, it's really, really hard to convey that. Yeah, I think it's, it's a little bit, we're not mad at you guys, we're mad at, we're not even mad, we're just, it's just like... It's a terrible spot in the schedule for it and it's a casualty of, you know, the new schedule. It's gonna be really weird when they go next year. I don't even, I've seen reported two different ways that it's gonna go,

Memphis, the open, England, and then Tokyo for the Olympics, or I've also seen that it's gonna stay maintained this spot in the schedule and they're gonna go England, Memphis, Tokyo, which is just a nightmare for the top 50 in the world. The guys that are most affected by it. But I don't know. It had, it's a good course. It's a good course. I always like watching.

I always feel like you can't fake it around there. Small greens. It just had a better, the old spot and the calendar fit better. Between the PGA and the open. And it just felt like the last big, non-major event of the year before the playout. I don't even, the playoffs don't even feel big. So it just felt like, I don't know, it had more of an identity I thought at Firestone than it now does.

I think it, maybe give it time. I mean, who knows, but I don't know, it's, it's a tough scene. So much of this, I think, depends on how, you know, the competition goes, which I know is very obvious. But the first year in Mexico was the best leaderboard and it was wild and people were making birdies all over the place. And I think that colors a lot of, like, holy shit, this tournament is so exciting. If that had been a sleepy runaway, like maybe we'd feel differently about Mexico, but now we have these first impressions of, oh my God, anything can happen at this tournament.

And it's so wild that I've now stuck with us for two, three years. So I hate that, you know, for all the reasons we mentioned up front, like for all the good positive reasons that, you know, there are for a city like Memphis, it's kind of going to get colored now is like, all right, well, it's just, you know, it's boring. Nothing happens there. Whereas if it would have been this Rory Brooks shootout, like I think everybody was hoping that might have, you know, it might have been feeling a little differently. Which is their defense, like Firestone wasn't

usually that exciting. Like it totally, it's not been a very exciting tournament over the years. It kind of shows, it's a lot like Tory Pines where it shows like, other than when Steve Williams said it was the greatest win in his career. That was it, Scott. Well, that sounds good.

It feels a lot like Tory Pines where Tiger or Bay Hill, even when Tiger basically makes it seem like it's a lot more interesting than it is. Westwood winning that one year was really cool too. Because he had the UPS. Oh, I know, and it's in Memphis. Yeah, we're talking about Acre. Now, I mean, I think, like, I feel bad sometimes because FedEx, well's up, this deep confi-

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because it's comical how much money they play for at the end of the year and some of those pots are for $7, $8 million on the 18th green. That is freaking comical, I think. But otherwise, why would I care how much money the players make? Well, I think my point is just that the tour, it's kind of a reflection on the tour. Like the tours manage to make this sponsor that's basically funding the entire tour,

make them look like the bad guy I'm lost. It's, yeah, it felt a lot like, you know, this thing got, it was a hostage situation and it had to go to Memphis. And I think that's where a lot of the initial resentment came from, which I don't think is fair. You know, I think it's more than anything. It's probably FedEx stepping up and saving an event

more than, you know, ripping it away from Macrin or anything like that. But, or ripping it away from, you know, Australia or something, because I don't, all the things I think we'd wanna see, like, probably aren't feasibly or fiscally possible for a lot of reasons we talk about on this podcast a lot. But it's just, to your point,

it's like on paper, everything feels great. You know, it's like these WGC's are a perfect example of like, imagine, you know, the pre WGC world if someone sat down and was like, what is it that you guys wanna see? Like what would make you happy? Like, dude, I don't know, just like, give me the best players, man.

And just like, you know, just let me see those guys on cool courses and they're like, okay, cool here. We built, we designed this whole thing. It's the WGC's, what do you think? No, that sucks, we don't like it. And so I hate being that guy that's just like, what's your idea? Nah, no, not interested.

That's just the way it started to feel. What's the point of calling them the WGC's? They're not W, yeah, they're, I guess because it pulls players from all over the world in theory, but they're awesome guys in the field that I've never heard of before. Poom, saying, sassy. That's the only thing that's world about them though.

I mean, in the one that they do leave for, I mean, at least like Mexico is still in North America with the one they do leave for is China and that's the worst one. That's the worst of an on Torrent. Yeah. So what do you do? And what's the answer? Well, just get rid of these and replace them with normal, quote unquote, normal events.

Is it, because I think the tour, I mean, the tour by and large, like wins in these, they make a fuckload of money on these. They get the best field. They appease their sponsors. They get big crowds at all of them. Like, you know, they're not going to change it just because like, we think it's kind of boring. Or ratings good. I don't know. I don't know if ratings are great. I'm like anything right now. I mean, just like everything with ratings is thrown off by the one guy. Like it's the ratings don't really mean anything because and streaming and all the different ways of all.

But he comes back just enough to screw up all of the, well, our ratings, yeah, it's down from last year, but we had a tiger year last year. And like, you don't, like every tournament rate's pretty much the same as the interesting. That's what that's Randy's whole take is that the cat is basically just like a black hole supernova of the sporties. He's just, he expanded it to these ridiculous levels.

It's just gonna all collapse in on himself. You guys want to talk about a small bit of dark matter? You want to talk to some Brooks? Sure. Let's get to our first voice males here. Hey guys, it's Vandy from Orlando. I mean, this is the funniest thing I've ever seen in my entire life. The guy shows up 30 minutes before the round.

People are freaking out, like he's not gonna show up. He entire life. The guy shows up 30 minutes before the round. People are freaking out like he's not going to show up. He shows up. He practiced for about nine minutes. I think he took three swings on the range, maybe nine pots, and any whoop worries us. This is just one of the funnier things I've ever seen in golf. I can't wait to see what actually Brooks does next

to just one up how much he could even care less. I mean, he might show up to Augusta Thursday morning, nine minutes before his heat time and just walk out, she's 65 and leave and not even answer questions. This is one of the greatest things we're ever going to see and if you can't appreciate how funny this is man. Also, I love what you do and by the way, Ian Baker finishes making me shove needles to my eyeballs right now. I can't lift my sky anymore. All right.

All right. All right. Yeah. We had to cut out part of that voice, though, because he was kind of spiking the football. He went for a long time. I got called like three times by the way, too, which we don't necessarily encourage,

but we could only play one of the messages. That was a good call. I do think to his point, like we don't appreciate Brooks for how much of it. He's like everything that we would want a golfer to be, still for some reason people aren't like fully on board. I'm kind of the same way. I can't fully, fully buy into him, but like he says all the right things now. He's not a golfer though. He's not. He's not a practice when he goes home. He made that very clear in his,

in what was this, he said he was tired in his press conference. He's like, yeah, I'm pretty tired. Just mentally though, just mentally. Not physically. Not physically. I beat the shit out of you if you wanna fight me right now. I think that what's cool about Brooks is

a sentence I wouldn't have pictured myself uttering 12 months ago or two years ago is like we stopped recording the podcast to listen to Brooks's press conference when it went up, which is actually pretty fascinating. I thought that was the more interesting than a lot of the golf we saw. Not, you know, to anybody's fault,

just Brooks made it pretty boring, pretty early. But I thought that the time to T-Time thing, I wanted to be a little bit more exciting. He basically diffused that and was kind of like, yeah, everybody's freaking out about this. I usually arrive like 55 minutes before my T-Time on Sundays and today I was 45 minutes. I did like his, yeah, I mean, I don't need to hit balls. I was like, I show up, I'm like stretching right ago, like I don't need to hit golf ball.

I don't know, he's like, everybody's like freaking out. I think he said, I'm sure you didn't see him want to ounce of stress on my face. I'm fine. And then he had a cold week. Yeah, he's fine. I mean, people go to work sick all day. That was a clear shot across the bow at Jason Day. Many shots at Jason Day at the press conference.

That party had on 18. He was like, yeah, and this is for 64. I was like, Jesus man. I know. God, that was a quiet 64. Yeah, that was like the quietest 65. I've ever seen in my life. And part of it's just because he got up and down

from everywhere. Tron, a little staff for you. He got up and down 20 out of 22 times. Why are you directing this? This feels a little de-ondancing on top of Tron's, right? Including nine out of nine times on Friday and seven out of seven times on.

It seems good. So, Tron's Chippings Fix. If you guys are curious, you know, Tron, what's keeping you off tour? What's, you know, what's keeping you from taking the next step? Listen, that's the kind of stuff you're gonna have to improve. Well, it's exciting. We got home and we got some of these Calloway sure out wedges they sent to us. Yeah, exactly. Like they kind of sent them as a joke and I'm like, man, maybe I should actually use it. So looking down at it, I'm like, God,

this actually looks pretty good. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna check my pride, check my ego, I'm gonna go to the range tomorrow and see, see how they work. I did enjoy FALDA today saying something or was, you know, they're talking about driving distance how important it was and FALDA's like, no, it's not the driving distance, it's important,

it's the putting. And it's like literally man, it is the opposite. Like, how can you watch golf and be a six-time major champion and think that? And there's a little chart that was floating around Twitter. I don't know where the origin of it came, but Chris Stroud tweeted it at the PGA tour, a very upset about this, but he said,

very unfortunate that precision has gone out the door. So basically, if you average driving between 310 and 320 yards, you made $3.1 million is your average salary. If you drive it between 300 and 310, 1.3, 290 and 300, just under a million, and the charges drops off completely. So clearly the reward for tons of driving distances is extremely real. They're anti-briangle. Yeah, it's bullshit. Like, clearly the reward for tons of driving distances is extremely-

They're anti-Brian gay. Yeah, it's bullshit. I do think, I mean, it was a great leaderboard. Brooks obviously, Web, Three Shots Back, Leesh played really well the last two days, Solar Third gets him up to 11th in the all important FedEx cup standings. Fleetwood, Fitzpatrick, Rory, Ron, Poulter.

How sick was that shot above a hit? Oh, God. That was on an 18th track. He missed the water to the left. You're talking about the water he blew into the dead center of the pond. Shot out the Robert Gargis on that one. That was shades of Robert Gargis from 2013

or whatever year that was. Under it, part, he hit the trees left of the pond and then it went into the pond. Exactly. God, if anyone's went into the pond. Yeah, exactly. God, if anyone's looking for some shot in Florida, just look up that Robert Gargis Memphis thing where he had a three-shot lead coming in the last hole and made an eight.

Was that when he was put in the set? I mean, like the 29 inch pond. Yes, exactly. That's exactly when it was. He did get a pretty good fist punch, after he made the Puffer Triple. Fist punch, triple. And lost in a playoff very jump vandal belled style to Can anyone tell me who he lost you in the playoffs? I think hold her chair Chad Campbell no idea

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I know your big money guy huge money guy So Brooks wins 1.75 million dollars, I believe for the WGC So that's a pretty good little Sunday in itself. He wins two million dollars for the No free ads unnamed hotel Season long points race. Which I can't wait to get to that. Yeah, so that's just thank you for competing and doing everything you would normally do this season.

Here's an extra $2 million. And then another million dollars for the No Free ads, unnamed, I don't know what they do, risk assessment, something like that. Large insurance. Yeah, some assessment, something like that. Large insurance. Yeah, some sort of risk reward challenge. So there's another million bucks for, again, doing stuff

that you know, we probably found out maybe like Monday after the tournament that you made Bernie and improved your standing on that one. So here's $4.75 million. So basically if you took his earnings from today, which I know is unfair because they're built on a whole season worth of work, but just his purse today and his bonus money

would have put him 13th on last year's money list. And then that's not even counting the bonus that you'll get wherever he finishes in the FedEx cup. He doesn't even need to win to make a couple million dollars. I believe that's more correct. Yeah. Or that's definitely correct. Yeah, sorry.

Now it's what winner gets 15 this year? Yeah, so this doesn't include the playoffs bonus. So everybody, like if you finish 125th, I don't even know what it went up to this year, but it used to be like you'd win like 30 grand or something just for finishing 125th. And then that was all the way up to, you know, you obviously won 10 for finishing first. And I think it was three for finishing second.

And now that's up to like 15 for finishing first. And I forget what it is for finishing second. Well, not only that, you get paid if you're in like the one 26 to 150 rush to get, you get bonuses. You got it. And then you lost your card and you get a bonus for losing your card. Well, what's all, what's going to be weird this year? I'm not sure how that I know that they kind of did the math on this, you know,

tour championship and how they're staggering the field, which is hilarious to think that they are actually gonna stagger the field and give somebody a, start somebody at 10 under par. I think I've come all the way around on that. Oh, I am. I'm around on it. I think I'm in on it. It's a complete joke, but it's a sweepstakes.

But so, well, if you were up near the top of the FedEx cup in prior years, it was pretty hard to, like if you had a bad week to torture championship, like it cost you, but you wouldn't fall like all the way back to 30th. The person who starts in first could hypothetically finish 30th. Like you'd have to punt like 10 shots back to the field and then keep falling back.

Which I think is kind of sick, right? If everybody's like, I think a big complaint about the quote unquote play offs is that they're not, you know, they haven't really been a true play offs. It's kind of like a body of work. And it's, it's of course, you know, whatever sport you want to compare it to,

but it's, you know, so and so is 16 and O and then they lose in the playoffs and they're out and it doesn't matter. So I guess in that regard, it's kind of cool that, you know, there's a little more heft and you got to kind of play well the whole time, but I think it's kind of retweeking and retweeking and retweeking something that's obviously been imperfect for 13 years in the hopes that what happens more people will be able to understand it, which I think they will. So I guess it's probably a step in the right direction.

What if you get hurt after 36 holes? That's a great question. And have to withdraw. Like what if Brooks like hurts his wrist? Well, that's not gonna happen. He'll play through them. Yeah. But yeah, you go from first to 30th, and you have to withdraw. Is that what happens? I don't know.

That's a great question. That's sick. I mean, on that. Yeah. What if you're like violently ill and you're throwing up? Like somebody could just be out there just bunting the ball around, throwing up in between shots. Can we talk about the hotel, the hotel points race?

Please. Yeah, for sure. Do you think that Brooks, this is a theory I'm working on. Do you think Brooks, so everybody gets pissed when Brooks wins normal PJ tour events, right? Yes. He should only win majors. He's like his, exactly.

He should only win majors. But do you think that, so he won this, he won this week, which locked up his $2 million win and rewards thing? Do you think he only won this week because of how much he didn't want to play a win-no? I think it was, but I think they were on them. They have to have, there was like a day taunt of some kind or an agreement of Mexican standoff.

Mexican standoff. Between all the guys in the top 10 of that guys. No collusion. We don't want collusion, sorry. We don't want to play, nobody wants to play a to collusion, solid. We don't want to play. Nobody wants to play when we're in. We don't want to play. All right, we're all signing the agreement.

Nobody's going to go play, right? And if one person would have committed, then they would be, oh, fuck this guy. And now I got to go play. I heard Sanders playing. Yeah. No, fuck, he can't play. And we all got to go.

So nine of the top 10 are skipping. Yeah. Who's the one guy who's playing? Surprisingly not, Coacher. I would have, I think it's Paul Casey. It was the only one that is going for it. But yeah, I mean, I don't know what they thought was going to happen. I guarantee it couldn't have been this, but they, I mean, they fleeced them.

They absolutely fleeced them. Look at the sketch we're talking about, right? But like they didn't get any of the players to shoot. Now it's like the laughing stock. Now, like the idea for wind him, I'm assuming was to get players to go to play this tournament. Like they're giving away this big cash prize and they didn't get it. Trying to fill out that's probably hotels and greens probably part of it. I'm a big part of it, but probably only part of it. I mean, I think the other part is obviously just like the exposure impressions and exposure for

the entire season. Yeah, which they did, they got that. They added a new tab on the website. That's you. Wind of rewards, you know, tracker. I will say, I mean, the feels probably gonna be stronger anyway, right? Well, to, we were talking about this earlier, I'm actually thrilled that none of the top guys

are showing up because the story was at risk, I guess, of shifting to like who's gonna win the wind of rewards, when the story next week is like, who keeps their card? Like it is one of the most important weeks. I mean, they're all, they all, of shifting to like who's gonna win the win-to-mere awards? When the story next week is like, who keeps their card? Like, it is one of the most important weeks. I mean, they're all, the points count the same, but the drama comes down to like, we are actually gonna be watching the FedEx Cup standings next week. That's the same way we're watching it this week with Reno, what's going on now.

But that needs to be the story. And it's one of the best subplots of the year for any tournament, really. And it's same as, you know, when it comes out of the final web events and the web finals and all that That there's a lot of livelihoods on the line next week like people are playing for real stuff. Yeah, like their livelihood They're career and well, it just kind of you know hit hit me even harder once I mean everybody knows the PJ tour plays for a shitload of money But seeing like some of our friends go from web tour to PJ tour have shitty years and make like $600,000 Like you literally play for 10x every time you tee it up.

Yeah. Then what you're playing for the previous year and that has a huge, huge impact on a lot of guys. Totally. Let's get to another voicemail here. This is Connor from Atlanta. I was wondering if the Atlantic Paranormal Society will be launching in an investigation into T.V.T. Southland regarding the ghost of Rory McRoy haunting the grounds.

I just want to call about that. Thanks, guys. It's a really important and important and great question. We got a lot of calls about Rory. He didn't look alive out there today. What do they call that when the, like the, it's like in the rock when the body, you know, the post mortem, the leg is still twitching. Randy's not here to defend his, to, you know, bearing defense.

I think he'd be, well, he's spiking the football. Very true. To answer this call, I should say, also the Irish newspapers picking up the big Randy red a death sentence out loud American golf course You have a school course being Randy land this You guys happen to miss that it's loading around out there somewhere But in fairness they said in fairness the American journalist did say that Dustin Johnson has 12 months to live

Yeah, in fairness. I believe he was working on a quote bit Absolutely. Yeah, in favor, I believe he was working on a quote bit. End quote. End quote. End quote. So you were a little fired up about your boy in Norton. Well, I was gonna wait for you guys to apologize. We gotta get to Rory here.

Okay, yeah. I'll let you guys think like, I was in time to apologize. What is there to say about Rory? There's nothing to say. I know, there's really not much to say. What did he shoot today, one over? But I would have been mad either way.

If you'd have won, I'd have been even more mad. I think that's a good point. Like, where was this last week? The porter tweeted out his like last 17 rounds on tour and how bad that 79, like stands out as an outlier. Today was not good, but like, I don't know, I don't think it says anything more. He said such a great season outside of the majors.

This today doesn't take anything away from that. He's played so much good golf. He's been close in a lot of tournaments. He's won two tournaments or just one. He's played so much good golf. He's been close in a lot of tournaments. He's one, two tournaments, or just one. He's one, just the players. No, he's one twice. He's one, but anyway. He's one of the players in the Canadian open.

Oh, the Canadian, that's right. He won that by like 25. I thought he won another one, but maybe not. No, this one's been third. So I don't think this fits in. He kind of narrative of like, yeah, Brewery just like can't close. Like no, he's had an unbelievable season.

The issue has been that he hasn't stepped up in the majors in particular. And so like not getting it done against the number one player in the world today doesn't really change how I feel about it. Yeah, it looks like a lot of what we were talking about back in February and March before he won the players. You know, what is it? I don't know.

Can he close? What's going on? What's going on with Rory? You see Sunday fades. And granted, like it was that for sure. I mean, I don't know how you, I'm saying this as like a shitty eight handicap, of course. Like I don't, that is not lost on me,

but I don't know how you can, like every fucking hole, it seems like he just is 3.30 in the middle of the fairway and blowing it past the end. Yeah, and like how do you shoot one over from there, man? Yeah. Like holy cow. So is Sogress?

Is it like a safe space for people who maybe aren't the best closers? Like Ricky, Rory. I don't know if Rory's not a closer. Surge, yeah. Rory might be the closer. Like when he's had chances in majors, he's won them all. That's the kind of thing that almost all of them. The really 2010 at Wissing Strait, he had a plot on the 18th green to get into

the playoff and he missed it. But other than that, like when he's been close, that's what's been made me wonder are like the majors somewhat outliers. Like statistically, should he have one, like from a probability standpoint, should he have one four of them? And I know he vaporized the field in at the 2012 PGA 2011 US Open, but I don't know, like, is that is a true representation of his talent? I would say so, but like, it still is kind of a little question, I don't know, a question mark on his major total. I saw staff in the PGA tour.

This would have been the fourth time that he, oh, gosh, Mark, I would just made a long birdie on 17 to take the lead. We'll follow this story as it develops. I'm tracking on my phone because I can't look at Troy Mirich. This would have been the fourth time Rory won in the start after missing a cut, which is kind of interesting. Good bounce back player. Yeah, three birdies in a row for Morcaw. Huge. But yeah, so on to your point, Tron, are you ready to apologize for the not-

Well, I thought it was just starting to begin. There were a few guys in the field this week. courtesy of their OWGR standing. Boom. Boom. Yeah, let's look. But like, like, Cam Smith, not having a great year, hemorrhaging FedEx Cup and all of a sudden,

he's right back in the mix now because of, and then, so Norton, explain Norton. My point was this new point in the calendar for this WGC. And there's definitely an argument out there that like the points, the order in which you earned them doesn't really matter. And if this event was still in June, why is this event where it is?

They just won it before the playoffs. I mean, it was the same, this is the timing that the Firestone event was still in June, why is this event where it is? They just won it before the playoffs. I think it was the same, this is the timing that the Firestone event was. That's, I would have to say, that's part of the reason. But anyways, at this point of the season, for somebody like Noren, who has had a, by all accounts of very poor season on the PJ Tour, he's 136 in the FedEx cup in danger of losing his card,

two weeks left in the season to earn it. He gets into an event that doesn't have a cut that is a FedEx juiced up FedEx cup week. He only has 80 guys to play against and he is able to earn point while the rest of the guys grinding for their cards are in Reno. He gets like this exemption based on his world ranking and the fact that he's on the Ryder Cup team to, you know, bump, see bumps. I think Daniel Berger outside the top 125 as a right now. It's like an earned income credit, you know. Yeah, exactly. I mean, yeah, I don't have money sitting in the bank, man. That's, you know, that's the stemming. I lost the trail of that metaphor. I don't know.

Well, the stemming this argument was me saying that Norton was not a top 10 player in the world. And now these play on the PGA tour, we're arguing about whether or not he's going to be in the top 125. Well, listen, that was my case. No listen, that was This argument started like two years ago exactly two years ago at that time He was a top 10 player in the world because of all the Euro events correct that that was the point. No, he was contending all the time He said like a couple top fives on the PJs. Well, it just doesn't play over He wasn't playing over here. He's like full time on the PGA too. Now he has. Now he's won last year.

Bubble won three times last year. Now he stinks. Listen, that shit happened. He was top 10 when he was playing on the Euro Tour. And now he's in danger falling outside of the top 50. You're being jingoistic, solid again. It does suck that it's a no-cut event. Guys can show up, finish last place, and still get world ranking points.

Shout out to Poom. Like not. Is that still the case? I don't think you get world ranking points for finishing last to Pum. Like not. Is that still the case? I don't think you get world ranking points for finishing last anymore. I know you don't get FedExCut points at the bottom like 20-ish percent of the field don't get FedExCut points I don't believe. I remember looking at it a couple years ago and it might not have been last place but the guy who finished like second to last got a pointer too.

They definitely get cash. I knew that but I don't think, I think think it was the you may be thinking more of the hero Or like if you finished Ted last I think you do get points. Yeah, which that is messed up field But anyways the the whole point is kind of It just feels weird at this point of the season that somebody's getting points to determine their livelihood when he's kind of afforded a luxury based off Based off nothing that happened this year. Like, to this point, he's not played himself into the playoffs and he gets a nice break right before. Like you get a jail free card.

I guess, yeah. I don't know. I think it seems like, it just seemed a little fishy to me. This is not a norm. I wonder how much it played. How was Fierrick in the field? He's top 15 in the world. Really?

That's how. How about that? How old is he? 49. 49. I think, I mean, he finished second at Sawgrass, which is like the juicyest of points. That's what? Yeah. How about that? Yeah. How old is he? 49? 49. I think, I mean, he finished second at Sawgrass, which is like the juicy stuff points. That's what it was.

Yeah. Well, that'll get you a nice little bump there. Fierrick might be, we should be having a conversation. I know you're right for Brian Gay. We should be having a conversation about Fierrick being the greatest golfer of all time. He's up there. I was listening to that argument that much. So, yeah, he's 48th in the world right now.

So, anyways, just to the point of, you know, I have to trust being out there in Reno and whatnot and seeing guys grind for their card. I looked up and I'm like, whoa, that is a pretty nice little benefit here to get to play a no-cut event and maybe lock up your card because of it for next year. I think we talk about that. I know this is kind of a European bent to it, the conversation we're having now, but it's like, I think this is kind of indicative of why it's so hard to fall out of that top 50, right? I mean, for anybody, if like Fierrick's a good example,

you know, you just, yeah, it's, you know, obviously it happens, but it's, but Fierrick dropped out, like way down and he wrote this way back. Well, that's how it happens eventually, but like you see guys hanging around in that like 35, you know, number for a really long time because you just get these free points and you get into so many more events.

And obviously you get it for a reason, you get it, you know, you're up there because you probably won something or finished high. So it's not a perfect system. If we had one death panel spot selection per year for a guy in the tough 50. That'd be very interesting. You know, what would you just take their card away? Yeah, you said their card away. We'll send that over. What would you do, you just take their card away? Yeah, you just take their card away. We'll send that over.

I'm sure they're working on that one already as it is, but it's a great idea. Last thing on Memphis that I want to say, unless you guys have anything else, but as cheesy as it might sound, I thought the Brooks hospital stuff was really cool. I don't think we've ever heard like heartfelt Brooks and he said that like three or four times, I know they kind of beat it up on the broadcast a little bit too, but in his post-around interview too, I mean, he said literally like word for word. Like the hospital visits have like legitimately changed my life.

Like going there gave me so much perspective and that can be such a throwaway line, you know, for guys and a lot of them do this week. But we've talked about this a lot with the PJ tour. Like the charity stuff is no joke. It's easy to kind of goof on and easy to say like it gets worked into too much stuff. But when it's good, man, like it's, it's so impactful and important. And I don't know, I thought that was cool to hear from Brooks.

To that point, guys that, you know, we, that we talked to about this event seem to talk about that in a totally different way. It gets not going through the motions. It's like legitimately what they do with St. Jude is incredible and they do feel like inspired. And like just watching the little interactions, I know they're kind of forced for TV and stuff that they show on there, but it feels real.

It feels somewhat real. I don't know why, but they know them by name and it just feels actually pretty good. So to their credit, again, none of the issues we have with this event are anything related to that at all It's like when people When they had the PGA in St. Louis And we're like why do you hate St. Louis so much? I don't do it. It's not about your city

Yeah, and actually got good weather this week I think it was not wasn't as hot as they thought it was gonna be right it was cool I just seeing Keppka walk off and then Ricky has caddy who's also a good player in his own right Talk to the kid on the on the 18th green. I thought that was pretty cool. And reports that Penny Hardaway was out there as well. T.O. was out there too. Penny Hardaway's the head coach at University of Memphis.

Really? Yeah. First book, man. Number one or greeting class. First time hearing of this. All right, let's move on and talk a little. We got a little Penny commercials. A little like penny hardware.

In the Furny Hardaway, yeah. Not a little penny though, like the big one. Yeah, real penny, but the guy from the commercials. Yeah, I mean, I'll say he played basketball for a long time too. What do you know about that? It was pretty good. Sometimes the world's pretty good. Let's talk about Reno.

It's not over yet. Colin Morecawa is threatening to win against Troy Merritt here coming down the stretch. But TC and I got to go out to Reno Tahoe this week. Guys, tell me about it. It was invigorating. Yeah, TC, this has been a top of your bucket list for quite some time. Yeah, this one, and I still need to go to the John Deere at some point. But yeah, I'd never been to Tahoe, I'd never been Irino before.

We had an opportunity to go out there, stayed downtown, one of the casinos, silver legacy. Stayed out of the casino for the most part. We spent the first night down there. The first two nights we were down there. John Daly had a big... Yeah, it was good to say. We got some stories from that. We couldn't really film much of anything

that we did out there, especially the casino night, but man, it was funny to just, I don't know, we talk a lot about the tour kind of losing its fun edge and like drinking and partying and like it was wild to like walk down the down there's the casino and be like, oh, yeah, there's paparazzi shooting crops and oh, there's Harrison who's playing Blackjack and me and I don't agree, he was running around and he said he's up five grand and next I see him, he's up three K and down one K like it's just ups and downs. And it was like the closest you can get to like experiencing the PGA tour party scene. But everybody says the green briar is the only gambling scene even beyond the Reno one

where we'll get you like have to gamble a green briar. There's nothing else to do. Yeah, so like everybody's in the casino every night and just but yeah, daily was playing the slots. The legends will have it that he was seated between two slot machines. Did this get reported anywhere? This is the coming from the No Legout podcast.

Must credit. Must credit No Legout podcast. He had, was pulling two machines at once. I think it was a thousand dollars a poll, is what I heard. I don't know, that might not be right. That part might not be right. But what happened next is right,

and then he hit the $180,000 jackpot. He was, I believe you said drinking straight vodka with no ice. That's, I guess that's, that's the J.D. way, I think. Uh, and I'm porting to reports. According to reports also, uh, began licking the slot machine after he hit the jackpot. As one does. And then fell over and was escorted out of the casino.

And a carrying out which was the best thing that could have happened to him because you probably would have gambled all that money right back. He made the cut this week too. He did. Congratulations. His swing still like, you know, for all his health troubles and, you know, I mean, he's looking a little ragged but his swing still looks good. Oh, it's, yeah, it's still his divot pattern on the other hand was an absolute disaster.

It was like all scattered. Randy would have loved it. Oh, it was so scattered. It wasn't even like a one little patch or strips. It was just randomly putting balls and just making the worst possible divot pattern. But we heard him. He's the hardest, man.

We heard him during the pro-am, like recount the night to somebody else and say something like, basically he wasn't remembering any of it. And so holy shit. Yeah, it was, we didn't get to see see this, but this like this happened. We had to pro-amp party.

We were at the pro-amp party. Yeah. Which I don't know if he was supposed to be at that or not, but anyways, we got to play the pro-amp with Pat Perez, which was awesome. What was your, what were your expectations going on? Yeah, I think, I don't know, Pat, I've always, I've never, you know, I met him a couple of times before,

but I always felt like he, you know, it was like the don't give a fuck stuff was maybe overplayed or maybe like, no, he truly, like he just doesn't. He was so laid back, but he was also super thoughtful and engaging and like really switched on, which, yeah, it was like, we had great conversation all day. He's, he's, he's, he was really frank about certain stuff

about white boys golf. He's like, dude, I can't make $2 million a year, you know, $5 million a year doing anything else. Like, that's why I play golf. But I was also just super impressed with, he owns his swing. And he is a ball striker man. He didn't like, he missed maybe three shots that day. And he

dropped another ball and absolutely flush the next one and exactly what he was saying. So it just premium ball striker. Yeah. He's about as good a company as you can have for 18 holes for a program. To your point, I just thought like he kind of his, I don't want to call it an act, but like I just remember after he won the CIMB, he's like, I'm going to be the same guy. I'm not going to work out. Kinda felt like playing to the crowd a little bit. Yeah, a little bit, but you do talk to him, and it's just like, you wish other people would be that real.

And he's also not afraid to be that person when the mics are on. And yeah, that quote, I was like, I asked him, do you love golf? He's like, no, I don't. Like at this age, playing tournament golf, like, you know, in the 19 years of this, it's not that fun, but like, it's a great win, make a living, yeah. And he says card for 19 years in a row.

19 consecutive years, which is nuts. And he said something to, he's got, you know, he's exempt for next year because of his win at the CIMB. He won the best possible tournament to win pretty much, which is CIMB because you get a full year of exemption then two years after that. And he's like, I've got, uh, I got rid of it. No, all right. No, there's no more CIMB. Oh, yeah, I've got rid of the CIMB because you got a full year of exemption then two years after that. And he's like, I've got. I got rid of it. No, there's no more CIMB. Oh yeah, I've got rid of the CIMB.

But yeah, if you went a event in the fall is like the best possible time to do it. And then he's got an exemption for, he's gonna eventually have made 300 cuts. I think he's 11 away from that, his caddy. The JJ Henry. The JJ Henry, the purple model. And he's also gonna be top 50 in career earnings

and he'll get another year of exemption for that whenever he needs it. So he's like, I'm good until I'm like 47, basically, this is a really interesting way of looking at it. But for some, it's earned it for 19 straight years. It's seriously, seriously impressive. But man, we got to do a podcast with, if you guys haven't, for those that don't follow us

on social media and solve Jason, sorry sorry Tim Herron and Jason Bone pop up on your podcast feed and skipped it. I don't blame you. Like on the surface, I wasn't like the one that jumps off the page. You would be making a huge mistake. If you're listening to us sit around and talk and not listening to those guys,

you're doing something wrong. Oh, wow. So please go back and listen to that. He, Jason Bone, I will say it. I'm not afraid to say it, is the most entertaining person in golf. Yeah, how about that? Like, I was a tour de force.

And I did not know that going into the week, like not even remotely, we got done with it or like, shick, we record three more hours. And then we, and that night we ended up, they had like a little speaking thing for him in Kalamore, Kawa for the Maracuda folks. We were up in the like a little speaking thing for him and Kalamore Kawa For the for the Mara Kuda folks. We're open to see sweet of course and He just kept your role and man. He had you just so many stories. I mean guilty as charged and sorry

He just tells them so well. He's up there just drinking wine But he is like the perfect level of guy that doesn't have to give a fuck and doesn't have any like He has sponsors, but doesn't have any like image to protect and will give you the story. So I was thrilled. I mean, I know this is obvious based on what you're saying, but looking at the barracuda leaderboard and looking at, you know, kind of some of the trends

and golf and stuff, it's like those are the personalities man that really, really, really need to be brought out. And like I promise they're out there and I promise that not everybody is a robot, like people think. And I don't know how else you make the 3M championships and the John Deers

and the Windoms and those tournaments of the world. I don't know how they're entertaining 10 years from now if you're not bringing those personalities out of people. What do you think Jason Bones career earnings are? More than whatever I'm gonna get. I'm bad at this. I don't know.

16.5 million dollars. I'm like that. Yeah, it's wild. And I don't think he's like, you know, I don't think he's walking into it to target and get and beat him for autographs or photos. Exactly. He's got a pretty good spot in the world of golf.

So on the flip side, like you've got all these veterans out there who are like Duval was in the field. Trials. Direct shot it. You know, all the people saying he's a ceremonial golfer. Yes, for real. For real. No, Duval was in the field.

Purple Mamba was out there, of course. JJ Henry. He's a freaking unit. He's an absolute unit. In all of the size of J.J. He wasn't wearing purple and tron was really. He was hung up. Yeah. Maybe saves it for Sunday. He was going to get a picture of them because he wasn't. I got got. Got to hang out with Katman and Strever. A lot. Big week for Strev.

Well, I'm curious to ask you. I know you've kind of been on police watch for the exemptions and the given out to guys in that 45 to 50. Uh, the report forthcoming 45 to 49 age range did talking to those two guys change their perspective on any of that at all. Well, I mean, I think those guys, like they're not on sponsor exemptions. They're like lumpies there because he's a, like, he's playing out at category. Like they're both playing out of past champ category. I don't have a problem with those guys. I think we talked a lot with them about lowering the age for the champions toward a 45.

That would solve a lot of problems. They were the guys that are kind of caught in the middle. Especially the guys that are playing weekly out on the corn fairy that are taking up spots from the young guys. Like a Frank Licklider. Yeah, he will name names. They just felt, so the word, I don't know what the word is I'm looking for

because it's all relative because the lumpies made 19 million and Jason Bones made 16 million. But it was weird to kind of see guys that clearly still have talent, can clearly still play this game and really not having anywhere to play. Like that age range is just like the no man's land

for professional golfers. And again, I care a lot more about seeing the young guys grind and guys that haven't made their first million yet, but it is a matter of time, I think, before the senior tore at the lower, so 47 or something like that. And then on the flip side too, you've got Morikawa's leading right now. He got John Chin, Charlie Danielson. I know they gave an exemption to Dylan Meyer. Dylan, yeah, DJ D funk, Dylan Meyer. They also gave an exemption.

I think Danielson was that exemption too, right? Yeah, and then, Wil Gordon, too. Yeah, just played well. We played, played roulette the other night with him. A few hours. He had never played roulette before, he just kept winning. And I was like, yeah, dude, this don't get used to this.

It doesn't normally work like this. Did the boys play any golf all year out there? We did. Played a little golf, played it. Yeah, yeah. Grizzly Ranch over across the border in California. Well, first of all, we played the pro-amp, and the pro-amp, I've never shipped that bad.

It was like a parody. Yeah. We did pad, was roasting him. And I know if you saw our Instagram story, Tron did chunk a driver with the trackman, I will display. That was tough seeing. Well, he accidentally was handed my driver.

And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I've been drinking today, but I'm not that fucked up. This grip feels weird. Extra stiff shaft was not good for TC. I've got an extra stiff shaft. Are you doing that? Why? I have an 85 extra,. I don't know. Why? I have an 85 extra,

because I want my dispersion tight, which it is. But I did hit a 400-yard drive on seven. He did. He did. That was one of the better drives for him. So, playing at altitude, first of all, it's kind of weird trying to like figure out how to get your ball to really apex,

but the 17th hall of air, we gunned it, and we had these new fancy range finders that adjust for altitude and for elevation. These are... Barometric pressure. Yeah, it was 415 actual, 321 adjusted. So there's a 96 yard adjustment, and TC almost drove the greed on that hole.

So. Yeah, it was 466 from the tips, and those guys are hidden for five iron off the tee. Yeah, but yeah, and then actually got some got some pointers from Pat's coach Drew Steckel. Yeah, Drew and they were he was fantastic. Pat's caddy. They've been together 28 years 28 years from when he was an amateur. I was like, don't I was like, wait, you're a twerker 19 years. He's like, yeah, I'm gonna send my bag when I was an amateur. Oh, no. Yeah. And so like, we're like, yeah, how many starts away? How many cuts away are you from 300? And he's like, I just can't. It's like 11. He knew the number immediately. Yeah. We played

Grizzly Ranch as a Bob Cup design. Some funky par fives out there. Some really good short-forz played with the winner of the Bachelor at Garrett Nurgorian. He showed us his Instagram page. He had 96%. He's like 750,000 followers and 96% of them are women. We're like low-key deep in the Bachelor of Bachelor at Seriously. That's exactly right. Yeah, they might have the Ben Higgins might kind of be our block I don't care. Yeah, he lives here. He played baseball at Nevada Reno and then went to Went on the show. He's still with the the lovely young woman that was the bachelor at and they lived down in Carlsbad now so guys more colleges birdie 18. Oh It's happening to merit needs to be needs to to eagle. Wow. Holy shit, man. What a, he was so,

Morikawa was so freaking impressive. Yeah. Just hearing him talk and watching him play and he's like wise beyond his ears. He's a really short kid. What, what was your guys' impression of Reno in general? I loved it. It was weird and cool and like there was so much to do and like it was pouring rain on

Friday. So we're at the tournament on Friday. They suspended play. I'm like, well shit, let's just drive back over the lake, drive over across the mountains, back over the lake, sunny over there. We played at one of the best mini golf courses. Oh God. We got to put on the interim story, but it was like the coolest mini golf course

in the 30 36 full complex. Yeah. Mountain in a lake course. Was it a month? It was a lake core. It was a dope redesign. I mean, some of the features were like it was built in 1956, I think. We had to do all this screw stuff. You had like sit on a fire hydrant on one of them. You had to do one left handed. You had to do one like a pool shot. I think that's how you protect par with some of these. There were a few designs that were a little bit look at me. Yeah. The volcano template was a little bit chow,

I mean a ten on that all. But no, we played old Brockway, a little nine whole course there. Original side of the Cosby clamping. Yeah, that was wild. Tahoe, Tahoe and like the 40s and 50s had to be quite a scene. Back when Sinatra owned the Calneva casino. Yeah, I'd never been Tahoe before.

It was, we sat out on the dock outside the high it there and just had your angst one night. And yeah, I mean, might be the nicest place in the world. Seriously. I got deep into a Tahoe rabbit hole because we filmed forthcoming. After tour sauce wraps up, you guys can look forward to another season of Strap, which was in Reno.

But yeah, kind of just going down and digging up some stuff on like old Tahoe and what it was like. If anyone is looking for a movie recommendation, by the way, bad times at the El Royale, it's all about this hotel and old Tahoe. But I'll leave it at that strongest recommendation. I went deep down the Reno Wikipedia thing, just about how it was the main gaming spot before

Vegas, and then Vegas came along, and then... It's Vegas without the douche factor. Totally agree. It's very real. There's some rough spots for sure. I think gritty. Yeah, not to gloss over any of that, but I mean, it's just, yeah,

there's no Steve Aoki's not fucking running around there and throwing cakes at people. Yeah, there's nobody like beating you up on the street with like handing you gross flyers and like stuff like that. It's just, there wasn't no man. It felt like the coffee scene was really strong. Curtis was raving about it.

We went to a couple different places. One was right on the river. The bowling stadium? Did you see that? No. It's like the national bowling stadium. It's this, I think it's that. They've got 80 lanes in there,

and a few thousand people can fit in there, and they have all these big bowling. It's like a perfect, weird little place for straps. Yeah, exactly. I think there's, people are gonna like some, some of the stuff that comes out. The World Scravel Championship was, was coming on while we were there.

All things you guys could check out in the beautiful city of Arena. But there was so much good golf. Well, that 18th hole scene too, actually, at the Barakuda was incredible. It was seriously cool. It's a tough course to walk. So kind of the fans really congregate there

on the 18th green, that finishing par five. And that scene right behind people playing bags back there. And it just is like, it was like a, it was like if the, if the PGA tour and the cornferrey tour had a baby, it's like kind of what the event is like size wise. Most aspirational vibe you could have.

And then, but yeah, like, Martis Camp, Clear Creek, Edgewood over at the lake, there's a bunch of good courses in and around Reno, someone that you guys played. Just like really cool, funky place. I liked it. I can't wait to go back. Troy Meredith had it right at the pin,

short of the green, he's gonna have to chip in for the win. Otherwise, Callumore, Cal, your champion. Unbelievable man. I mean, this is class. Like, there's no other way to like, it's something hard thing to tweet. Like, wow, really impressive play, but how do you like describe

what this class is doing immediately? Well, that was the interesting thing about talking to Will Gordon the other night, because he's like the fifth guy. Forgotten for four exemptions. For a lot of these events. He's like, man, I'm like, it's cool to see these guys playing well,

but like, I'm here too and like, I wanna get into these's like, man, I'm like, it's cool to see these guys playing well, but I'm here too and I wanna get into these fields, but I can't because these guys are just, boguarding all the spots. And he's- Now the wolf is one that- Yeah, so that helped him out a bunch. Say that from Vandy. Yeah.

Yeah. But I mean, yeah, God, it's just nuts, man. I mean, they're so freaking polished. And like we said, we talked more, Kawa. I like talking to the rookies just about, because it seems like everyone has a lessons learned from and that and it seems like one of his was He's going like he was like looking around and be like oh, I need to be grinding so hard because all these guys are on the range so much He's like I was beating myself up to death like I got out of my routine immediately just like watching all the tour guys hit so many range balls

So seems to have adjusted pretty well to where it hits him in range balls. So it seems to have adjusted pretty well. He adjusted quickly. Unbelievable. And is, is Hovelin under achieving at this point? Has to be. He hasn't won in like five starts. Six starts.

Well, this, so this gets more cow into the playoffs. I mean, to your exemption, he's gonna get his, if you are a mayor, it doesn't ship it. Well, yeah, he was gonna, he was gonna get his card anyways. Or he had his card locked up for next year. And I would imagine it would take a minor miracle for him to not get it for next year.

But also speaking of people getting their cards, big shout out on the, the corn fairy tour to our man, Harry Higgs, trying to play in a pro-am with him at Savannah, at least nine holes of the pro-am. Harry, the hit man Higgs, giant fan. I'm a giant fan. Like I think that he is exactly kind of the type guy that PJ Tour needs.

He's kind of big and a little brash and a little, just like, I know people throw this around all the time, but like, I can't picture a better guy to have a beer with, you know, just among the most normal, the more normal dudes we've met out there. He's from Casey. He absolutely pounds it. And yeah, he's just funny. He's his

own person. And he'll tell you what's on his mind, which is sweet. I think he's, I think he's going to be very hydrafic in the in the Fred X Cup next year. Yeah, that's exciting. I mean, he's going to be easy guy to root for him. So maybe we're going to we'll have on the pod eventually. Yeah, we need to make that happen. We were supposed to record with Pat Perez while we're out there. He ended up gambling instead instead of recording. So we didn't end up recording that one. Gotta run and check though. Yeah, he says he will. He will come on some time and that will surely be must listen.

I didn't watch, I want tuning in a little bit to watch the AVI on this morning. Jinyoung Koh, it was 108 there at one point this week. And today it was like long sleeves and rain gear. I mean, like the cold front finally rolled through. What's with that event? I just can't get a sense of it. I know.

It's kind of just a major because they call it a major. If you dig too deep on it, you start asking yourself, wait, what is a major? What is a major, man? Some of those pictures. It was a touching, yeah. I think, I don't know what,

how bad the heat. I think it's bad winter and a horrible heat, but it was like horrible splotches in the fairway and like really some rough, rough scenes and condition wise. Like, look like they should have resided this before the tournament, probably, I don't know. Troy Merritt had a great chip, did not go in. Colin Moore, Kyle, your champion.

Unbelievable. Unreal. I mean, he came in as a featured guy. He was doing, he, one guy did a press conference while we were there. It was him. And he like, when you're a sponsors exemption, you got to do a little bit of other sponsor stuff. And he had to do a Q&A with Jason Bone.

And it was amazing to listen to how polished he was and how bone was absolutely letting it fly. I think more of a cow, I got pretty red face at one point hearing some of bone stories, but he's the I mean God That's unbelievable. I don't know what that five events or six events since this guy's graduated and wolf and more How are already winners unbelievable? So Jinyoung Coe she won her second major of the year Sungyeon Park had a really rough Sunday and gave it away Jennifer Cupcha almost tracked her tracked her down. She shot like 66 or 67 today.

I missed it. I was so, oh, so we had to tell us what happened. Tell us what happened to your night last night. We went to the Harajian concert done in St. Augustine. Great time. We actually went with these two miscreants and their significance others and then Matt Johnny Thompson the cow attack down there and then Steve Lear and Paul Lear Maddie Kelly's Holy name drops here Tron get to the story Super Chef Bobby Flay. Sorry. I'm still like so yeah, we had a big night on the way home. I puked in the Uber I had a big night on the way home. I puked in the Uber. And Alex always, so my wife always brags about her five, her five full no rating.

I was like, I'm sorry about your rating. You know, it was a $200 cleaning fee instead. Yeah, but yeah, I mean, the guy was cool and it was like, it was non, it was non stinky vomit, but yeah, every time I, every time I hang out with Maddie's in long I'd like to ask that guy if that was if you agree with that were they in the car? Yeah, yeah Yeah, well every time you say I've I've puked three times in the last like five years and two of the three have been When I've been with Steve and like he just got he's he he he sends it

Where were you sitting in the car? It was like two. It was a Dodge caravan. It was two captain's chair. So I was in the right captain's chair. It was right in the middle though. But you can't roll the window down. You know, you didn't feel it coming. You didn't, the war and the driver

could pull over. It was just, it was just, it was not stinky. Well, I had to go pick up the, the Toronto had the drone at its house. I had to go pick it up from him today. I tried messaging him. He was not fit to fly. I mess.

I messaged him on my path of vision. Hey, can I get the drone? He never replied. And I was passing his house. Anyways, I just popped in and ring knock on the door. And he comes to the door just looking. Freddie and I were taking a nap. Yeah, he was, he did not look right.

Like it's something I felt like I interrupted, like a funeral of some kind. He was a dead man walking. And but help a show by the Iration, guys. Push gave a shout out to Tourist sauce right before we played already gold, which was hilarious. Such a fun venue. Oh, is it a great event?

So thanks to those guys for having us out. Last last thing I had on my list, you guys see the news from Bob Herrick. Skin's game coming back in Japan. I saw that the Monday of the Japan event. The Monday of the Zozo Championship. In the Monday or Wednesday. I thought I was going to be Monday. Early in the week.

Cycurs. I guess at the same course that I've been at tournament. I don't know if that's right. It's at Accordia Golf Narasino Country Club. I think that's the same. Of course. Yeah. One day competition will offer lucrative prize money, will take place a few days prior to the start of the Zozo Championship.

So who is it? Tiger Woods, Roy McElroy, Jason Day, and Hideki Masayama. Which I assume means all those guys are, would be playing in the Zozo Championship as well. I know the big cat has already confirmed a bit. I don't know. You know what's up? Are they mic'd up? I don't know. They might up, or they might up. I don't know. Complete non starter if they're not mic'd up.

And just off the top, like I already probably don't care because it's just a money giveaway and they'll probably screw it up. I guess. Hey. So do not know on whether or not players will be mic'd up. It says, basically, this is part of an agreement that Tiger has to provide content

to golf TV, which, as we know, is an international rights holders. But apparently there is negotiations to have the skins event televised in the US market as well. The big homie Mark Steinberg has declined to comment. Maybe on golf pass. Possibly. Maybe to get the golf pass boys involved. All the donations they got in lieu of flowers. That's what you can't possibly. It's possible. You know, I don't know, whatever. I only bring it up because we talk a lot about, you know, weird ideas and.

I'm a different from a weird ideas, but they always end up looking to like formula, formulaic. Yeah. Like it's, I don't have confidence that they're going to like crush this and it's going to be really freaking cool. I think they should do three, like three of the top 10 players and then the other one should just be totally out of left field. Getting strokes. That'd be safe. Yeah. Yeah. Having an every man getting strokes would be great. Yes. They should use some of the exemptions for

somebody like that. It'd be more interesting. Bernard Longer won the UK Senior Open at Royal Lovum. It'd be a more interesting Bernard Longer one the UK senior open at Royal Lovum Didn't watch a ton of that but not a surprise he wins pretty much everything and I think that's pretty much all of it Payouts in that one. He only won like two two hundred and twenty thousand pounds Hmm, that's fine. That's fine, right? Isn't it? I think normally for senior majors they win five or six hundred pounds Yeah, I'm fascinated to watch this week. You get the corn fairy going to San Francisco or B-space, I should say. But the between that, and they've got two more weeks in the regular season there, and then between that and the the wind, I'm just seeing guys on the bubble like Pat and his iron. I guess he's still exempt from his wins,

but he's 126, burgers 127, Duffners 132, Peter Euline 133, Bo Haasler 140. So, I mean, there's some guys that are on the outside looking in right now and on the flip side, there's some guys, some pretty decent players, right before the bubble too. Yeah. What are his norm must be playing, right? He's one to one.

He's committed. He's committed. Yeah, he's committed. Yeah, that'd be good. Sejfield's always cool. Yeah. Yeah, the windom's kind of a low key of a fun week. Awesome.

Well, I'm going on vacation. So, I don't know if you guys are planning to do a podcast on Sunday, but we'll have, we have some podcast recorded that will at least come out in the next couple weeks. It depends on what happens next weekend, but you guys are, are let's people know. You'll let them know. Yeah, we'll let them know for sure. We'll keep you posted. You're good. You're good. Yeah. I trust you guys completely. Where are you going for vacation? We're going to Amsterdam at a Switzerland. Whoa. Just get out of the get out of the humidity for a couple almost a little over a week. So right. It's a great time of year to be in central Europe. Nice. Freddy's the C suite swing about Geneva. Check out his account.

I got to mix them with Tarross. That's actually more more Zerick. I suppose that's like all that that shows, you know, my familiarity with that's what I'm flying in. I got some appointment set up there. So yeah, Freddy's Freddy's out of school this week. Two weeks off of school. So I'm on. I'm on daddy duty this week. Yeah. You kick things off pretty well by p Two weeks off of school. So I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on, I'm on It's getting right club, be the right club today. Yeah. That is better than most. How about him?

That is better than most. Better than most. Expect anything different. Expect anything different.