No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 256: TIGER WOODS HAS WON THE ZOZO

Episode Date: October 28, 2019

The Cat has eternal life. Tiger Woods wins the inaugural Zozo Championship over Hideki Matsuyama, and Soly and DJ discuss his path to 82 wins, their favorite wins in that time period, the Kush, Bubba's crazy drive, the Skins Game, and a bunch more from the Zozo. We also discuss the news coming out of CBS and what that means for the future of golf on TV.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most! Expect anything different! Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No-Lang, a podcast, Sully here, DJ Pie here, emergency edition of the podcast. Today, I had to move today, and I told my fiance, I was like, she's like, hey, you know,

she stays in tune on Sundays. Like, you got everything you need to do for work? And I'm like, no, I mean, like, if Tiger 1, like, this is way before the week started. Like, if Tiger 1, I might have to do a podcast that night, but like, what are the chances that happening? And here we are. This is, you know, it's not unlike a doctor being called into the ER.

It's pretty much it. On a personal, personal day. So thank you for being here. Let me just start with that. Did Tiger fuse his knee? Is that what the surgery was here? That he, when he got his knee scraped? It could be. Possibly. Yeah.

What a day, man. This is honestly, but one of the best, one of the best Sundays I can remember, just an A plus day all the way around. We had the air show here in Jacksonville, Jags win, Minshew Magic rolls on, get to watch some Tiger in prime time. What a break for the tour. For real. That was like. Like they finish. There were some there were some concerns,

mostly from Tron that it could have been a simulation. Akin to the 2016 PGA. We had Hadecki Matsuyama and Tiger would. I mean, it was a focus group. It was a focus group afternoon, but I'm going to say it was not faked. I'm going to say it was real. And I'm going to celebrate a great day of professional golf.

Even if it is fake, you know, you know. Yeah, even if it is. Sposly the tour has turned a blind eye to some suspect use of some materials that Tiger has had over the years. It's all rumor. It's all speculation. It's extremely alleged.

This is extremely, extremely, extremely alleged. Let him do it on a sound stage. I don't care. That's fine. I was actually just watching a documentary about the shining. This is way off. Okay. But they were going deep into how potentially Kubrick could have faked the moon landing. Oh, no. Using some of the, did you watch it? No, I got three thousand.

I got three thousand. I got three thousand. I got three thousand. For sure. Oh, yeah. No, it's topic one. Anyways, yeah. It's a point being it wouldn't be as hard as people think to fake it. Especially when you start crowd control, you start limiting, you know, limiting number of people. That was a good thing. Three thousand you know, limiting number of people. That was, 3,000 people, exactly 3,000 people. Yeah. They were very quick to say it was going to be a Monday finish when they were ranked out

on Friday. How convenient. Hmm. That's the best decision they made in a long time. I was so psyched to hear that like, oh yeah, it's going to be like 630 to 830 on Sunday night. Oh god, that's the ideal situation. Which I was going to feel bad if we weren't going to do

a podcast tonight because we've long argued like, yeah, there should be an event in Japan. We've one of our many half baked ideas and suggestions we have. Oh, they should do a tournament here. Why don't they play on Australia more? There's need to go to Korea, there should go to Japan. The reality is it happens in the middle of the night

and it kind of sucks. So I didn't get to watch really at all until today. I mean, just that's just how schedules go. I tried super hard to stay up last night. I was like, you know what, I'm Tigers winning. I'm a supposed golf fan. I'm gonna stay up and really get psyched about this. And I just, through no faults of the golf,

I felt like like 130. We do need to give a shout out to Ron. Well, by the way, the whole like they should do an event in Japan and like one thing is, you know, us not watching the telecast is one thing. Did you see the fucking crowd? Unbelievable. Like it was a smashing success.

It was so much more what it's about than whether we're watching or not. Yeah, it was a success before Tiger won this thing. I mean, you could just see how much like, I mean, the Korean events cool, but like, Jeju Island isn't like Korea. It's like an island. Super isolated.

And it's not necessarily, I don't think it necessarily captures like the Gulf Hungary Korean people within the continental Korea. China. China. China's China. We'll get to that one. It's actually good.

We're probably wrong. We're gonna skip that one entirely. And then Japan, but this is like, this is a huge huge huge deal And it was it looked really awesome on TV for the part the highlights and stuff that we saw from the early rounds and All the hype around it skins game was I mean we didn't really want it was it started on me and I missed your skin Mr You are getting mileage out of that one. I'm trying. I'm trying to I'm trying to blow out the flame to get that one going a little bit. But yeah, the skins game, they kind of really overhyped

and no one, I don't think anyone really cared. I mean, they were mic'd up. I have a very important question. Okay, we're voiling back and forth. Does skins stink the format? Yeah, like oh, for sure. I think it might. Yeah, yeah, that's not good.

Every time I've ever played it, like it's not, it's just not that good. You immediately detach like five holes in. Yeah. Because it's like, oh, well, then you get to the end. It's like, wait, where are we each paying five bucks for the skin? Or like, do you just get five total? Are there a period of that four ways? Are we really doing karaoke? Yeah, skins is all terrible game. How did it become popular? I think it's just really easy to understand and it's easy for as a until the introduced validation where you are. No, there's a you know, I think it was like the TV product that they had going for years and years and years is probably like where most of the popularity came from. This is definitely be talking about two sides of my mouth when I said you know the match.

I don't care about how much money they're playing for which was 9 million. I think the total skins was like 350,000. I was going to like, oh, that's kind of lame. First of all, Tiger and Rory and J. Day and Hadecki aren't showing up to play for 350. So there was some appearance fees, if you will. I don't know how they worked that out. They may have been doing some clinics that way. Potentially. But yeah, I don't know.

I got to be playing for at least a little bit of something out there, but I don't know. I didn't want it was if you're gonna air that at midnight, you can't expect the US audience to tune in. Maybe they didn't care because I mean, no, I'm sure they did. I'm sure it was like a huge I have read almost nothing about it and really haven't heard all that much about it. I'm sure it was a success overseas. It sounded like on site. It was a ton of fun and people were really into it. But yeah, it's just, you know, through no faults of anybody's, like, just not conducive with my old man lifestyle. They might the players up. Nobody seemed to be a two-per-effector butt. Also, I didn't have that idea.

It didn't, you know, we were slightly checked out. We're filming a tour of South Season 5. We can get to that later. But, you know, normally when something crazy, interesting happens, when players are miked up, like the meme culture takes over and those moments kind of spread all over the place, I didn't really see anything. I don't know what I missed. Did I miss anything?

It started midnight. But I'm just saying like usually stuff somebody watches it and stuff trickles out and like, oh my God, did you see this moment? Tiger said, what? He had the, he responded in the perfect way to some trash talk from Jason Day. And I saw none of that. Well, I think that you, anyone, at least on social media gets pushed away immediately when they start talking about trash talk for sure. The thing has even started. It's like,

yeah, you're not, no, that's not how it works. Like this is all the same stuff we said about the match where it's like, you can't fake this stuff. No, and you're telling Tiger and all these guys, like, okay, go play super elite golf, but also be on the whole time, but also be funny, but also don't be too funny, but also don't say this, but don't swear, but maybe swear a little, but it's just like it's an impossible ask for these guys who are the best in the world at one thing,

and that one thing is not like being professional entertainers. Well, and you also get Tiger who, you know, we've talked about this before. Literally, every joke he's told in the last 25 years, everyone has laughed at. So like, he will just say a statement like, I'm starving. And totally something I would say.

The audience will laugh or like the reporters will laugh at it There was some good like they had a They had a one club challenge on one of the holes which was interesting because like ro is a par five and Rory The highlight I did see his worry was contemplating doing five wood five wood to try to get there and like chip with the five Wood around the green but I think ended up going like six iron six iron six iron one up That's that's an idea we would say we like do a one club challenge Yeah, and they did it and yeah, I do a one club challenge. And they did it. And yeah, I don't know why they chose Japan for this.

But yeah, I'm maxing out my availability to talk about the skins. I was gonna say, I don't know why we're leading with the skins game here, because Tiger was just tied to a sneeze record. How big of a deal is sneeze record to you? Well, you added an important qualifier on the end of that sentence there,

because I thought you were gonna say, how big of a deal is the record? I'm like, yeah, you know it's a big deal. And they said the record. I'm like, yeah, you know, it's a big deal. And they said to me, I'm like, I haven't, like, I think it's really, really cool. And I don't want to diminish anything. But I've always thought it was kind of, I just thought it was kind of shitty that like Tiger didn't have this record.

Boy, yeah. Like it's so, it feels so lopsided. And that's to take nothing away from like, Sneed one hundreds of events. And this is, you know, Bill Fields actually, I think for Gulf Digest, wrote a really, really good piece about kind of the whole dynamic here and what's at play.

One thing that was in there that was really cool was the only really strong positive about whatever Sneed's 82 is that it's kind of kept Sneed in the conversation for all these years. And that is a cool way to think about it, you know, needs 82 is that it's kind of kept sneak in the conversation for all these years. Yeah. And that is a cool way to think about it, I think, because he doesn't really resonate and the majors race as much as, you know, Jack

or anybody else and so. It's cool to have, and we have like no, like our generation has like no video evidence of sneak. We've never, you know, we at least get masters highlights and stuff from Jack and Arnie and all those guys that were still before our time, but yeah, I agree. It's just hard, too, because through no fault of sneeds, I mean, through no fault of anybody here, like it's just no offense to anyone.

It's just the tour was so freaking different back then, you know, like you can't... It wasn't like organized. No, exactly. Joel Beale from... I believe Golf golf digest rounded up Just some some ways to think about it and like everybody always says, you know Oh, well sneaked record is blah blah blah and he kind of pulled a few of the highlights in those 82 victories There were six against fields of 15 or fewer

Including which fits the cat one of them. Yeah, we'll get to that one of them was a one of them was a four-player field that he would There was three 36 hole events one 18 hole event and the Yeah, one of them, yeah, we'll get to that. One of them was a four player field, that he won. There was three 36-hole events, one 18-hole event, and the 1950 Crosby Pro Am, where instead of a playoff, they just gave a victory to each of the four players who were tied. So, two one. Yeah, again, shout out to Joel Beale

for rounding up all those stats. That's what we've known that. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that's always been kind of like the secret. And I think the tour, rightfully so, and understandably, has kind of looked to chase, you know, turn this thing into this chasing 82, and all those things, which makes sense

because the tour doesn't own any of the majors. We talk about this all the time. And, you know, they do want to take some ownership of their history and kind of tie it to P.J. Tour events. So I get why it happened. But it was also cool in that Bill Fields piece I mentioned, they kind of broke down how they actually came up with the 82 victories, which was basically just this panel in 1986, I believe, and it was like Dean Beeman and a bunch of people who were playing back then and they just like the day after the Masters,

according to the story, the day after the Masters, they sat down and they just went through a list and they were basically like, all right, that one counts, that one doesn't count, that one counts, that one counts, that one doesn't count. And so it's just, I don't know, it's kind of an interesting topic albeit, you know, maybe not the maybe not such a black and white topic. Yeah, I mean, let me say Tigers 82 is very black and white.

Yeah, that's the black and white part of this. Well, it's also a weird celebration, right? Because if I'm, I want you to answer this question as fast as you possibly can, okay? How many of the wins of Tigers 82 came before he turned 34 years old? Fast as you possibly can, okay? How many of the wins of Tigers 82 came before he turned 34 years old? Fast as you can, go. Forty? 71. Jesus.

71 before he turned 34 years old and he has 11 in the last decade or so. Yeah, that was bad. Yeah, that's really bad. You got in your head to answers. He did, yeah, exactly. So he's kind of limped over the fin, but there was also the time period of course where we thought this wouldn't happen. So there is that to celebrate. And I don't know, the fact that he's winning tour events

means more to me than he's, than the fact that he's breaking a record if that makes sense. For sure. No, of course. And I think it does put into perspective, you know, there's a million stats that you can rattle off about the 82 wins

because it's easy to kind of throw it out like, oh yeah, Tiger, you Tiger, you tied the record. It's like, dude, nobody else is even fucking close. Oh, man. Oh, yeah. That's the other cool thing is Sean Martin Tui is something that he's averaged 3.6 wins per year for 23 years, basically.

And that's funny when you think about like, oh, Roy, the player of the year had three wins is here right He's average 3.6 for 23 years. I tweeted this earlier. There's only two guys in the planet that have won three of their last 14 starts There's that there's Phil has and Roy fills what less He's half about little over half. Yeah, I think there was something like there's only three Maybe three modern players over 30 Over 30 wins. So we it's just it's not man There's only three, maybe three modern players, over 30. Over 30 wins.

So it's just, it's not, man, it's absolutely insane how many wins, 82 wins it. We agree that Kat, he died in 2009, right? And he's reincarnated, right? Like there's a new cat. Yeah. He's won 11 times since like the accident and since like more than that, since he broke his leg in the, in the scale, he's won 11 times, Jason Day's won 12 times in his career.

So same with Payne Stewart. Like he's got a whole career post death that is borderline hall of fame, if not hall of fame. 11,000,000. He's got like nine wins on Mondays alone or something. That's good to a couple questions. First one we got, maybe the most important one, Jeff Emborn asked, is that herbal active gum he's chewing?

Well, we couldn't possibly, we couldn't confirm, or did we also couldn't deny? We don't know. It's some sort of gum, it seems to be relaxing about there. I don't know if it's a water-based gum. It seems, it seems unlikely. Well, tell us about herbal active for those adult. Well, for sure, herbal active, I think I mentioned this on the last podcast I was on, but it is a water-based

CBD. I'm deep in the drop scene. I don't need to mention that to you. It's strictly for the listeners. I'm deep into the drop. Twice a day, four to five drops, once in the coffee, maybe a little tea in the afternoon in the evening, maybe. Helps me sleep so much better.

Helps me feel so much less old, I should say. This is working too by the way. My mom is like, so is this stuff? Is it really work? Like, is it working? Yeah, I'm gonna order some, what's your promo code? So it's NLU20. NLU20.

And get on there, herbal active, you are BAL, ACTIV. Get in there, get involved. I promise you, you won't, you won't regret it. Like you will see, it takes a little, a few days to like start to realize, oh, like I do feel better. Oh, I do see better. Oh, and then it took you with actually getting kind of deprived of it, you losing it,

that made you even realize how much you're missing it. That's what I think the best, the best wording I've heard of, the best description I've heard of this so far is, you know, you're not gonna take it and like feel all loose and zany like a right away But the biggest difference comes when you stop taking it and you realize like oh my god, that's right I kind of felt awful all the time and it just kind of slowly I'm taking the last two days and I was like why do I why am I struggling so well if you just do it today It would be good to probably take that tonight. Yeah, I'm going to need something to loosen up.

Let's also check in with our friends at Calloway. It's kind of, it's, can't believe how we're already in October, but the epic flash driver, how much, just take a guess, how many worldwide wins do you think the epic flash driver has this year? 30. 50. And I was just doubling out on the Tiger. If you had guessed like 125, that would have been not enough. Well, that's not trying to go low.

We actually didn't rehearse this either. Right. 50 worldwide wins for Callaway. I'm sorry, over 40 wins by the Epic Flash Driver. But Callaway has over 50 worldwide driver wins in 2019. We got 75 wins with Odyssey putters as well, as Stephen Brown won at the Portugal Masters today. I bet you didn't know that.

Portugal the Master's. Yeah. I missed that one earlier today. Yeah, I was checking, I was getting updates on that. Listen, I know we're talking about the Epic Flash driver. I don't know. I hope you don't mind if I comment here this ad read. Please do talk about the jaws wedges because they have completely changed my game.

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Brendan Jennings also asks, which tournament will be number 83 for Tiger? He says, my guess, defense Augusta. You know, usually I don't go with the guys that also provide the answer to their own question, but where does he win 83? Oh my God. He's not gonna win the Masters again. Is he? I just did it again. I doubted it again.

God, that's a good question. Farmer's about that. Yeah, farmers I feel like is becoming a little bit, I don't know, could be wrong, but but you think it's becoming a little more kind of Balm and Gauji, you know, and I But you know what? But you know what? But you know what? But you know what? But you know what? You know what? You know what? You know what? You know what?

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be below, like, or you could be below it, you know, you'd have a much longer putt. But if you were going to give yourselves looks at birdies, like, you'd have to iron it to the right spot. And I know that's obvious, but like, there's some courses that that line becomes so much finer. And I think that's where we're going to see him. Well, there's some courses where you have to drive it better than he does. Like, you go to that path page, like it's not going to be a good fit for him. But like, like, some like farmers, you can hit it, like, it's one of those courses where if you hit it far offline, sometimes you're a little bit better than being.

Go away, go away, right. You're sometimes a little better off than being like two yards off the fairway. And that's just some a place that he's always been able to get on the green from the rough. But that would be my prediction of the next win he's going to have because I mean, maybe the knee was bothering him way more than we understood last year. Maybe he was in way more pain. Maybe I don't know, I don't know what his current situation is with pain killers and all of that because that is a factor. I mean, I think I think his play kind of ebbs and flows with how much pain he's able to deal with. I don't know if that's back or if that's

knee or if it's neck or what. I don't know. Again, it's just this giant black box of how he treats all those things because he's so mysterious about it. But I think there's just so much more when he's not playing well, it is not because that anything is gone other than his health. Yeah. You know, and we, but we, he plays enough, like kind of through pain that we start to wonder like, I guess he's still good. I can't, he's still play like, I don't know, man.

And you know, we, I go back to those chipy-ups that we saw and I definitely thought at that time, like it is gone. Like the talent is gone. But I think looking back at that now, we can say it was such certainty that he was just dealing with, dealing with things that we couldn't really fully understand. You and I both listened to the Tiger Woods audio book, the Armicotain, Jeff Benedict, this is a free ad for you. We listened to that on a long,

I'm spectacular, but I don't know really what took us so long to read that, but I've heard good things about it, but I just, yeah, I hadn't gotten to it. I was kind of like, ah, come on, I know the story of Tiger, but it was like fascinating. It was just an in-depth biography of Tiger. Help me understand him a lot better

and kind of why he is the way he is and just kind of how, obviously like his life is a fishbowl, but like how it got there and how ridiculous it is and how famous he is, because golf fans, I think maybe don't appreciate how famous he is in world circles. Yeah, no, I think that's exactly right. I think that, I remember saying that a lot, like even back in high school in college,

like you could make a case. I mean, he was the most famous person on the planet for a long time. Maybe like the Pope. Other than that, like maybe Michael Jordan, but I mean, he was so transcendent and so just unique and I don't mean for sure. Like agreeing with you, like you could, you could make a case, he was the most famous person

on the planet and I'm sure that's dropped off now, but like it's insane. And so yeah, taking that, I'm curious, taking that trip kind of back through all that stuff. What was your favorite thing that stuck out? You either learned or were reminded of or whatever. I did it, but that was a bit of a tough, a tough part is like, I don't know how else you do it, but in an audiobook, you know, there's one person doing all the voices. And so all these quotes that are in this book, it's like, well, there's no way

these are direct quotes. And so so many of them were just very generic things and with the emphasis that was put on by the narrator Everything and it's like, dude, nobody has ever sounded like that. Yeah, tiger just exclaiming. I did it butch Like butch arm was trying to teach us. You taught me this knock down shot And he finally pulled it off at the USAM final and you know the game That just comes in and says that. We said that pretty much the whole rest of the trip. So I would recommend that. I'll give a free ad for the book, Tigerwood.

I mean, this is obviously well known in golf circles, but it really was a worthwhile use of our time. Favorite thing I've covered. Like some of the stuff about his dad, I feel like that was the, you know, I wouldn't say that's my favorite. I definitely walked away from that, not thinking very highly of Earl Woods. But the, the, the, the, when you asked what it, what stuck with me the most was after Tiger

won the USAM at Newport and Earl celebrating the clubhouse saying, Bobby Jones can kiss my black ass. That's the, that's the, that's the part to stuck out. But like, that's the bold kind of stuff that is in there where that I've never really fully heard. I mean, we only get the sanitized version of everything from Tiger and that's, that was, yeah. Of course it's full of errors and he's gonna write his own book, that's gonna correct all these errors.

That's straight to haters and losers. I think for me it was like, and we'll maybe talk about this in a little bit with the wins that we remember most, but I think for me it was kind of like a reminder of how much of Tiger's ascension, like I was too young to either follow or too young to understand or whatever. And so I feel like I've been watching a lot of, I don't know how to say it, but I feel like I've been watching a lot of Tiger's career on like DVR almost. Or it's like, yeah, now I can rattle off like where the wins came and I can

rattle off like, oh, he hit this shot here and he hit this shot here. But I was like watching so few of those live because I was 12 or I was 10 or, you know, whatever. I love though as a kid watching him win by eight. People would be like, oh, just a boring runaway win. Like, no, no, no, I like that better than when he won by two. For sure. No, the ones I, the ones I watched, I remember, but there was just so many I completely missed. And so along with that, there was so much personal life stuff that I missed too.

I didn't realize that throughout all the tiger slam stuff and all that, he had a serious girlfriend for two and a half, three years. That's a second one. I've literally never even heard before in my life. And it's something as small as that and seemingly kind of like insignificant as that is like, man, what a huge part of his life

that someone you feel like you know everything about. It's like, man, that was a huge part that I had. Absolutely no idea about. Spoiling part of the book. Big disappointment, they never addressed when he showed up looking like Junetown at the Stanford Game with a terrible on. I don't know how they miss out on it.

But it does make you realize, oh my, how many lives the cat has lived. Because I mean, I never, even after the scandal broke out, I never knew about all the Vegas stuff and all the things he was doing with Barclay and Jeter and stuff in New York. And I just, I don't know, I just, I guess I just refused to believe it because I kind of fell for the squeaky clean, clean image of it. Do you want to do the Stahlgic wins now? One of the topics we came up with was just to go with, I mean, 82 PGA Tour of Winds, what were the five? First five that you kind of stuck out, stuck out to you are the most nostalgic feeling you got from them.

We're gonna see if we have any overlap or go and blind them. I'm sure we do. We eliminated all majors from this. So this is just five random tour wins that Tigers had that have resonated with you. You go first. So a lot of mine, like I was saying, is like a lot of them will be later wins just because like I mean, I watched all the majors back then, but like, there were so few actual weekly PJ tour events that I was yeah, I don't know if these are nostalgic from when I watched it or just like exactly Exactly, and that's where I'm like, well, yeah, Canadian open. You know, he hit the shot at like,

I'm like, I don't even think you watched that on TV. Like, you've just seen the highlights a hundred times. So I do have a couple, I know I watched the Firestone shot in the dark. Yeah, I know I watched that one. So that was I think 2000. So if we're going chronological, I think that's my earliest.

Okay, I just went for the first five that I thought of. So I have to cross off that one. My number one list, Steven Ames. I don't know, you can't imagine that. That's true. No, that's true. I do remember that one too. I should have put that one on the list.

Yeah, that one's on there. All right, what's next? 2001, the better the most. Again, that's one that, like, you know, could have been. Yeah, I definitely did. Well, that was Saturday too. That was Saturday, but I do remember watching it. I remember I was at the, I think I was at the golf course

that I grew up at. It was kind of like either working or playing or... You weren't tweeting from the PGA tour social media handle? I was not, not in 2001. Now that would come about, you know, 11 years later. But yeah, so that was, you know, not much for me to say on that one.

That probably hasn't been said already. This is a personal one for me. I doubt we have an overlap on this one. He won the Moral three years in a row between 99 and 2000, 2001. There was one here where he had a huge lead on 18 and I swear, I think he did this on purpose. He airmailed the 18th green and hit the cart path

and it went all the way up by the clubhouse and made it the crowd scatter. He didn't miss a shot like the whole week. He was up by at least five. And I just remember everyone having to scatter and I think he made double or something, but I swear he just like wanted to send a message for some reason. I had uphill shot like who air males an uphill shot. I had one, you know, where I shot the tree instead of the flag this week at Wilburton.

So maybe he, but you hit the green. Well, I was just just long right. But yeah, maybe, you know, maybe at a bad number. It four clubs too many. All right, what's next? 2009 BMW Championship. Again, I don't know that this would make a lot of people's lists. But I was in college in Peoria, drove up to Coghill that day.

It was with a buddy and like, got up so fucking early to make that drive and got up there and that happened to be, that was on Saturday. That happened to be the day he shot 62 and just like boat raced everybody. And randomly, I think what I remember most about that day is we were just hanging at the range afterwards. And Patrick Harrington was the only person out there. And Coghill has this big barn at the end of the, at the end of the driving range.

And Patrick Harrington was just for, I don't know why. He was working on his swing for a little while. No. And then he just kind of got goaded into by fans into hitting happy Gilmore shots, trying to hit them over the barn, and then he did. So he's hitting these, carrying these happy Gilmore swings, like 315 over the town.

That's pre-gank as to his turn. Yeah, exactly. He didn't even have to speed them. 2000. I do remember watching this on television. The duel with Ernie at Capelua. Yeah. See, that one sprung to my mind and I was like,

you liar, you didn't watch that. I actually might not have either. I got pretty sure I watched that one. I do remember watching a go-to-a-playoff, I think. I don't know. Who gets about 20? Who's possibly saying? Yeah, yeah, I watched it.

Who's gonna be able to audit that one? That's right. Yeah, exactly. All these like from two thousand. I just think the lucky, for sure, I watch every show. The 94 USA. Next I had, I believe was 2012. So he had like, I mean, he had 50, like, it feels like,

even today kind of feels like a little bit, but he had like 50 comeback wins, you know, where it's like, oh my god This is his first win since X and his win at Bay Hill after which came after the I almost put the the chevron I believe was 2011 chevron who was what he beat like Zach Johnson right, whoever and celebrated way too hard Yeah, yes exactly. Well, you know, got the monkey office back, but Bay Hill was like his first like proper proper win after all the really shitty shit and So that was I remember that that one gave me like some some serious chills

Yeah, if you need any more motivation to do the audio book for the Tiger Woods book They do read the text messages out loud. That's right. Which is is jarring. Yeah to say those I have up next the 2018 open, which I do honestly think I watch. Who could possibly say? I do remember watching that and be like, you know what? I don't, I remember thinking, I wonder if he would do this if it was a major. Would he try this shot if it was a major? That's a good point.

Yeah. I don't know. Who could say? Who could say who could say next. My last one I had was in 2013. It was a firestone. 21. We can talk about the limited field thing after this. But I was out there. I think it was Friday and I was at firestone. I think it was the first time I was ever out there following you know watching that golf course and Tiger had like a legit chance to shoot 59. It just happened to be like walking with him that day and following every shot.

And so basically had seen like every shot of his 59 like as it was just like building, building, building, building, building and then he buried like 14 or 15 to like really have a chance and then he made a bogey I think coming in but are part an easy, easy hole or something. The shot 61 and that was like, probably my, one of my five favorite days at the PJ tour was being, like inside the ropes up close, seeing every shot of that was about as cool as it gets.

The next day, was that Saturday? That was Friday. Friday. Okay, two days later is the famous GF where he licks his finger and puts a towel in the board. He's up by like 13. Yes. And finally makes it birdie on Sunday and like does the little tally in the air. My last one has already been named the 2000 bridge dough.

The, the, uh, finishing the dark. Yeah. How about that? Huh? Only one, only one overlap. But I love the story behind that in that they all had to go to a charity event the next day. And some, or tiger, maybe just tiger had to or something.

They had, they had to get out of there that night and it was like not an option. I think he's playing with house Sutton and like Sutton grinded all the way through. Listeners may know him as Halimuth. Halimuth. Which fitting, like how could it cost himself a lot of money coming on the stretch there?

Which he would have had to distribute. But I remember that the reason they were trying to grind so hard to finish was like they had to get out of there by that day. So I don't think I'd do that. I mean, I didn't really explain it very well. It might not even be true for all we know. We got to address Alfin the Room, Will Know's best.

Oh, limited fields. Yeah, well, we'll get to that. Will Know's Bessks. This is a question for Tron Carter, NLU. Who do you think you are? I have to, I have to, I have to fall in the sword here. What gives you the right? This might have been what re-ignited the cat, but Tron is famous for doing the RIP cat tweet for basically the goal of the tweet. I'm not speaking for Tron here, but it's to do it comically early.

For sure. Right? Like, oh, Tigris. I don't know why people expect that we should be on Twitter being like, wow, what a sentimental moment. Yeah. Just think of what his children have gone through. It's like, that's not really what we do here, man.

But Tron has not been on Twitter for quite some time, and we were at the, we've been hanging out at the, we know, we've been traveling. What was it? There's, I guess Wednesday night. And Kat had boggy the first three holes. He had the water in the first one. He played, first of all, he played terrible in the skins game. He hits in the water the first hole and boggy's the first three. And I just asked him, Hey, are you going to bump a tweet? He goes, What? I was like, Kat just boggy the first three holes. He would have never done it if I didn't prompt him and he just didn't even Ask any questions just went out there. I think Wicks nine birdies later tigers leading after round one

But I do I he did ask me to declare that I forced him. Yeah, that seems at least partially your fault. Yes The previous 78 times You want to do your thing with lemon to feel?, just speaking of dumb ass tweets. I, I, that's all I was saying was, you know, if you really, if you really want to think about it, I almost floated it out to Twitter, just like, Hey, if somebody gives me $20, like, I'll write a column about this. But his last four wins have all been limited fields. Should we be concerned? My, my column. How many of his majors are limited field of it? I mean, five of them, right? Yeah. Yeah. People forget there's only like 98 guys at the master. How many people play the Zozo? Uh, like 76. Oh, God. That's really

not that many. Bridgestone. 76. It is. For championship 30. Amazing. How much? I'm very much kidding by this. There's been many haters and losers coming at me today Which has been fun because I've fired back at a lot of them But you have fun with that on Twitter. I can't do it. I can't like well. I just don't get what like Yeah, I don't know why I think there's a bad a bad habit of trying to like be understood by the entire internet like no Gosh, everybody has to know that this was not a joke. It's like oh, that's not gonna happen So I'm gonna just roast this one guy at least. But I've had enough that I've been so painfully obvious

that they're a joke that still get corrected, that it just makes me lose faith in humanity, really is what it does. I've gotten probably 40 responses right now. Oh, really, the masters was a limited field? Oh, really? If you looked at Sam's needs record, you're gonna audit his, you really should audit Sam's.

Listen guys, look at that. We did. If you don't want to hear the truth, you've got to stay out of the no spin zone. DJ Pies, Twitter account. Was, I should, I chocked the name off this one, sorry. Was the tour keeping the 10th of all par four during the second round when it played 140 yards the most we've ever lived on before. The deepest under par we've ever been.

That was a good one. Which I serve. Parts of relevant, social contract. I assume it was just for like data feeds. I got to like, I don't think you can like adjust par the way through around because it would fuck up all the yeah, like they tried to do that. All the shot tracker stuff and all the like,

they've done this before. When they did it, yeah, they have. And they did the par change at Chambers Bay, like it messed up some things in data scoring and stuff like that So if you can't there's never been better evidence though that part does not matter the fact that like oh, yeah We can't change it for scoring like here's 140 yards. I did love the tweets that we're fighting on like a lot of eagle opportunities out there today Well, it will be sick to like that. I'll kind of juke the stats

Well, it won't be sick to like that. That'll kind of juke the stats at the end of the season. Yeah. Did you see Bubba's shot through the trees? Yeah. So I still don't I couldn't get a good feel for what was going on. I assume that whole just snaps hard left to right. And he was just he would have a better angle if he played it mega up that right side. I can't confirm a second like 100 yards right of the fairway.

I think he was just bored. And he ends up hitting it between the whole sign and a tree, quite literally 90 degrees to the right. Like he had to move the marshal out of the way to hit it through there and then hit a big cut. I might have been the ultimate in real life, weird flex, but okay. Yeah. All right.

And that was admittedly pretty sick. Yeah. Oh, awesome. That was like, so we talk about this, or I usually say I give things the Bubba test, right? Like if Bubba did this, would I make fun of them? And like if it was a player that we liked more than Bubba, we'd be like, oh, that is sick. So I had to celebrate that.

It was, yeah, it's awesome. That's incredible. What tournament was that? I guess it was, I think it was like Kempere Lakes in 89 at the PGA. Yeah. Greg Norman tried to drive the 18th green or something and to plan a tree.

They found a tree like overnight. Yeah, it's happened somewhere else. Between like the third round and final round or something that they brought in a tree. At Roach, Jake 15's asking, does this win help cat reach golf digest top 30 nice guys list? He was pretty nice in the in the post round. Well, I think as everybody knows, we didn't even talk about the

push yet. Everybody wouldn't even talk about it or chief of Japan. We should do another CVD ad that reminds me. Yeah, I mean, listen, everybody knows that the golf digest nice guys rankings. It's a black box. You know, we don't know how they how they tabulate those cards. It's like the Walker cup, how they pick the Walker cup. It's such a political system. How do people tie in the nice guy ranking list? I mean, it's gotta just be a voting.

I mean, it's right in votes, I assume. But the best, the best tweet of the week was, and I really don't wanna spend a lot of time on the, if you go off die just nice guys list. But, tweet of the week might have been a cooture with backdoor top 25. He is 25th on the list. Ricky Fowler was the number one, an our guy, Max Homa finished tied for 29th with your

boy, Ches Revy. Yeah, I think Max, I think he should take that as a, take that as a sign to maybe, you know, be a little nicer to volunteers out there, maybe be a little nicer to the Valais, the Caddies, you know, people like that. Hopefully Max takes this to heart and tries to improve. One thing I wanted to point out when we were talking more about Cat is, I think it's kind of underrated and underdiscussed

that he's doing this on his own now. Yeah. Like as far as I know, correct me if I'm wrong, he has no swing coach of any kind. Not that I know, but he's certainly gone without making announcements on stuff before. So which I know he's obviously like the most talented player to ever play this game, but like legitimately, I think everyone out there has a swing coach of some kind. Like other like does he set does he go and like set up video on his own?

I was never had a lesson. That's right. But does he go and like set up video on his own? I'm sure he does. And look at it and do all of it. And I'm sure he has, you know, he plays with like, he's got a lot of close, you know, the people on his, his quote unquote team, Team Tiger. Yeah. I'm sure they're down there playing golf them all the time and like, they see a swing.

A lot of them are good players. And it's like, I think it's probably what you're talking about. Like it's, it's pretty simple to set up video. He's got his track man and like, you know, I think there was a lot of people that, to their credit, said that during, you know, all the fully changes and the Chris Como changes and all that stuff where it's like,

dude, he just needs to like own this golf swing. Like he's the best person to ever swing a golf club. Like take full ownership and don't try to listen to somebody else. And it seems like, I mean, at least today, you know, this way, it seems like that's, uh, it's really spoken volumes. It's, it just seems, I'm not a swing expert. It just seems like a very simplified, it just seems like it's going to be very safe. Still feel like he's driving it good enough, you know, to compete. He's never been a great, great, great, accurate driver of it. But we got to give, you know, to compete. He's never been a great great great accurate driver of it

But we got to give a shout out to the deck. He's buck or shot on 18 a little bit reckless Yeah, if I may say it was he's trying to win you played a win the game I guess I mean, I think he could have had hidden the fairway and tried to hold it I don't know and hope for a tiger bogey. I don't know apparently I was streaming online and the the ads that pop up within that are different I think what happens on TV a lot of people are not happy with the number of commercials that came with this broadcast So I Yes, we're gonna do both both sides to this right because I can't imagine

Well, yeah, like dude like a Monday in Japan imagine like that's true the camera imagine the flights That all had to be all the logistics that had to happen to get that done Yeah, to get everyone out there to get the announcers back out there. I know that sounds like, hey, it's your job, I go do it, like Tiger One, of course you gotta do it. That's not, it's definitely not the way it works. Like it costs, make this up. At least I've heard things like,

it costs like half a million dollars to like run a tournament for a day. So between like, just set up and all the things that go into, I know volunteers like work for free, but all the security and everything that goes in with the tournament, like it costs a lot of money to do every day. For sure. No idea if that half million total is right, but the number might surprise you how big it is to get all that done, to turn around and have the televised live. Like of course they had to, like with Tiger

winning, they would have got murdered if not. But I just think that's really impressive. Like I don't even know how they get all this because like they ship all of the stuff to Hawaii like all the trailers full of stuff on ships. I don't mean like ship it like they put it on a ship. To get it to Hawaii. To get it to the whole sabaka crew. Yeah.

How do they do it for Asia? I don't know how they do it. I don't know. Yeah. It's a very good question. I'm sure it's God. I don't even know. Did they float it all over from like, I don't know if they do. I don't know. That's a very good question. I'm sure it's, God, I don't even know. Did they float it all over from like,

I don't know if there's like a LA? And they rent it from to Asia. And then they just can't know. I don't know. That's, I don't know. That's absolutely the same. The logistics are literally mind blowing. However.

No, that's where it's like, I was gonna say something today. And like the last thing you want is, Tigers like marching to this historic win No, that's where it's like, I was gonna say something today and like the last thing you want is tigers like marching to this historic win and you're like, we did 40 minutes of real golf, we can do a little coverage on the back. Well, that's kind of where, even just like from our perspective, it's like tigers going and winning this historic tournament, like the last thing people want is like us bitching about like oh there was too many commercials However, like that's kind of the point though is like tiger fucking woods is going and winning this golf tournament And like even today I'm like having a hard time locking in and focusing because like it is every three minutes

It's every five minutes. It's like it was tough. It is relentless and so that's not a it's not a golf channel only thing It's not a today only thing, but it's something that we're going to keep saying because it's like unwatchable when it gets like that. And even when the best player of all time is literally proving that he's the best player of all time by tying this record and doing all this stuff. But it gets to the point where it's like, dude, this is... Yeah. If you can't make this, if I can't walk away with this, like with no complaints after this,

like what the hell are we even doing? It was funny to see the people that were like tweeting at us about all the commercials. Like, guys, what are you doing? We've been talking about, we are blue in the face talking about this. Are you just now watching it? But it does.

And you know, a couple people came up to me. You know, we're talking golf this past weekend at the ringer. And the guys like, yeah, watch the Masters and whenever tigers playing. For sure. I was like, yeah, you know, man, like that makes a lot of sense. Totally. Yeah, you know, really?

You know, we don't usually interact with a lot of those people, like the, because I think a lot of people we interact with are harder core golf fans than that. But when he said that, I was like, yeah, dude, that sounds like I'm way better way to do this. Last thing I'll say about the Zozo's, people were mad Keegan didn't finish out first on 18. I didn't really notice, but I did notice. And actually, I was wrong. The last thing, Keegan shoes were absolutely atrocious.

A lot of people were ripping on Tigers' white shoes too, which he's done that many times. Yeah. Also, if you want to rip on Tigers' fashion prowess, I'm the golf course, it's typically pretty good, but there were some photos floating around, off golf course, like, fashion is out there. Yeah, come on. If you haven't been paying attention, if you're just noticing that now. Google Tiger Woods, Junetow, it's what Cubs have.

How'd a chance to give myself a Cush? Give myself a little Cush? That was huge for me because we Always are constantly quoting Jerry McGuire and the Famous quarterback. Yeah, it Will he answers the phone? Yeah, this Cush. And so that was me

Really worth my mind. What? How did you give myself a little Cush? That was that was the perfect sign off. We didn't get a Sansi afterwards. That was a That was a little disappointing. Congratulations to the cat, man. That gets me kind of reignited. I kind of thought there. Of course, I had the thought that was like, okay, you know, he won the masters. He kind of walk off. We're not going to do this again. Okay. Everyone listening, I want you to put your hand up in the air. If you're driving in your car, just make the pledge. I

heard it from people probably more so in person, you know, people asking like, Tiger's done, right? Like he's done. I didn't see too many people in the golf media world calling him dead after what happened this summer in this fall, but it started to happen. People being like, I don't know.

Yeah, I don't think he's ever gonna do it again. I'm like, my dude, you see what he came back from to win the masters? Like we're not, do not fall for this again. All right, people thought after, you know, broke his leg, he wouldn't come back and be the same. People thought after this scandal, he wouldn't come back. And he's never been the same saying,

but he's come back in one so many times. I wanted to go through and count how many lives, but I think we're past nine. So I think it's fine to say the cat has eternal life. He's invincible. So don't fall for it, man. Don't, if he has a couple of mish cuts to open up the year, don't let, you know, the short-sightedness make you think

that he can't do this, because he's proven time and time and time and time and time and time. I can say 82 times, he can do this. Like, he can't. And he's, maybe as the biggest, obviously, the health is the big question mark, but when he's even remotely healthy, he can win golf tournaments. So let's not fall for it again.

Agree. Promise? Promise. fall 40 yet. I agree. Promise? Promise. Okay. Last thing I want to mention on Tiger was someone, he goes by a bonafide slide on Twitter, but he had a very good point that basically, Tiger's first win was this well-established

kind of legacy event in Vegas, and now 23 years later, he's still winning at something called the Zozo in Japan that wouldn't have existed without him. And that made the tournament better. And that's just like a really cool way to think about it. He's just kind of like, he's like one of those people who's like walking, you know, when you're walking on like a bridge

and it's starting, it keeps like appearing in front of you, you know, he's kind of doing that. I like that with his career. So we touched on telecast a little bit. You want to talk to him? Yes, I do. I do. I made sure we saved it for the end. So if you don't want to do coverage stuff or CBS stuff, feel free to sign off.

This is it. Sign off. Cheers, crack on, if you will. Some news came out of CBS that Peter Costas and Gary McCord will not be returning to their contracts were not renewed their contracts were up after this past year and they will not be renewed. Peter Costas had a long statement that was on Facebook or John Orren had it I think that said that he was thinking about doing something different and CBS made it easy by not picking up his two year option. So what's your first reaction? My first reaction was possibly surprising with how much we bitch about CBS. But like, man, that, that was not the issue. Like, costus was not the issue. Like he, I really actually like cautious.

I think we say that. I think he's, I think we say that a lot. I mean, he's, he's not the issue though. Right. He's not there, there are a million. He's not irreplaceable, but he's not, not even close, not even in the realm of the issues we have with CPS.

And I think McCord is whatever. I mean, I do appreciate, actually, I appreciate somebody who's trying to take it a little less seriously and trying to be a little less whispered hush tones and tries to make it a little more fun. It just hasn't really been fun for a while. I don't think it's been a lot of just sound effects rather than kind of like, it's like a bad Tony Ramboh.

Yeah, it's been a lot of that for a while. So not terribly heartbroken on that one, but I did think Costus was better than it was among the best, if not the best, on the career. So I was a little bummed to see that. And what was kind of shocking was trying to really put together a short list of who's gonna replace those guys. Because it's one thing to be like, oh, this guy sucks, I get rid of him, but it's another thing.

Golf doesn't do a good job of kind of cultivating talent. And there's a lot of guys on PGA Tour live, and there's a lot of guys on Golf Channel, but even all those guys and girls are seemingly like doing such an impression of a golf announcer rather than trying to actually have any kind of unique voice or do anything differently or stand out in any way. So it's like, I think John Rollins does golf

but I couldn't possibly tell you one thing he's ever said. And Mark Wilson is similar. I know he does PJ Tour live and both probably delightful, super nice guys, but it's like, dude, we need some, if we're trying to shake things up, which I would guess they're trying to do by firing two of their, or not renewing, two of their most legacy people,

then I don't really know where you turn. Few things here. One, I wanna make very clear that this is definitely not one of those things that I think, like, oh, I could do that. I could do that better than them. Like, I don't think they're in a position to succeed. No, I don't want that job.

Yes. I don't think I'd be great at it. I don't have like, here's the five things you should do to be better at this job. Like, I think it's hard. And I think it's like here's the five things you should do to be better at this job I think it's hard and I think it's like live stuff We do a live show and it's hard to do and these guys are calling like live action and all of the things going on at once I can't imagine like trying to think creatively with like a producer in your ear Okay, coming back from replay here on 14 and now we're up with Justin Thomas on 15 Peter go

Here's Justin like you would automatically just default to like, here's what we're looking at and here's what's happening. Cause I don't know, it's so hard to be on the spot. And that's what made Johnny Miller so good. Like he was willing to put himself out there without being like a parody. And he was a parody a little bit at times.

But that's kind of where I come from on this just to be clear, like I don't think it's think it's like hey hire this person hire this person like the main issue We've always had with it is like at the helm like the whole tone of it the pace of it the music the shots of dogs on the beach The lack of golf shots shown the lack of flow to it the number of putts shown compared to shots shown, the lack of flow to it, the number of putts shown compared to drives, the context of everything we're looking at, just the self-servantness of all of it, the commercials. How long do I have to go? Yeah, the commercials, the commercials, they aren't even commercials, and it's just again and again and again, and again, it's the same thing, despite the overwhelming feedback

that things need to change, and they don't. And so, like, these two guys changing is not going to affect the viewers. That was my overall point on Twitter. It's going to be some different voices in your ear, but you get cycled in different voices throughout the year. Frank Nobleo has done some stuff with CBS, Luke LB's done some stuff.

Like, those guys are probably going to have much greater roles. I would imagine in the coming, you know, and I think they will do quite fine at that. I don't think it's gonna be groundbreaking, watershed moments. I don't think it's gonna change things a lot. And that's the issue. And so I don't know, I have no idea

if this is in relation to the current negotiations that are going on with TV. I think what's in it. I can't imagine. I think it's, yeah. Well, I think it doesn't change anything, I don't think. No, and that's what's interesting. There was a lot of people that kind of said that,

like, oh gosh, this must mean they're not gonna, you know, they think they're not gonna get golf back for after 2021, blah, blah, blah. It's like, even if that was the case, like, they're still gonna have it through 2021. You know, so even if CBS is not doing their contract, like, they still have golf for the next two years.

So it's, right, but if you don't have it past 2021, it seems like you would ride it out a two year contract with like, I don't know, I mean, there forever. But we're talking seven figures for both these guys. Like I would, I don't have to, I mean, I would have to have to believe that. So if you're fading away from covering golf, I think that would be one of the things that might be on the chopping block. Like, hey, if we can get this younger person to do it at one sixth of the cost or whatever that would be,

then maybe that's where they decide to cut. I don't know. I'm not sure. I mean, they're paying a whatever amount for the rights. I don't know if that's necessarily where I would cut the cost. But I mean, yeah, if you have the same staff year over year, those guys are getting raises all the the time. And so I imagine like their cost of running it is way more than it was eight years ago. So yeah, anyways, I don't think it's going to change too much.

Who's your dream replacement? If they can, I don't have, like, I don't know. It's hard to, well, I had to think about people have been bringing up Romo for golf for quite some time. And I've never understood the appeal. I've come, I'm coming around. I'm coming around really strong of like, yeah, you don't, it's nice to have PGA tour player up there that's something that has experience. But like you said, you can kind of start to sound like a robot PGA tour player, not saying anything interesting. So many from outside that can obviously play. Like he threatened making a cut at a PGA tour event which you know people say and I've said some disparaging things of Ramos game and it's it's not meant to disparage him it's like

I like having him out there as like a barometer of like how good that Torprow's actually are totally and the amount of Torvents he's played where he shot 77 and 82 and missed a cut like says a lot about not a lot about him it's's like, that's what it's scratch to one plus one handicap would shoot at a PGA tour event. But he clearly clearly clearly has game and the chops for announcing. So I think he'd be a good compliment to somebody that has experience in the booth. I was surprised to play a tour. I would surprise him if he would want to take that much on. But you know, with everything he does with football and I don't know, maybe CBS does a

shit little golf. It's a lot of work and a lot of weeks traveling and a lot of that stuff. So I don't, I think like a lot of people have talked about Ogleby. I don't know if his playing career is totally done enough to take on again, like a really big, maybe amazing.

But I think he'd be my number one, number one choice. People are asking us to like any chance of some of the guys getting poached from Fox. I don't see that happening. I know. Faxon was kind of my other time choice because just because he's so good, you know, not I know he does more than one week a year, but that's what most golf fans see him at the US open.

But yeah, we'd love to see him 20 weeks a year instead. Well, so this obviously we're close with Bacon and have a relationship with fax as well. So this, when I say this, this is not coming from them as a source, I promise. But for my understanding is like, it's going to be super hard to poach the Fox people because they, I think to my understanding, they get paid pretty similarly to like NBC and CBS to do a lot less of this. Like their contracts are great as far as how much you work for it. And they've got to do some tough events to prepare for like the US

juniors and all that stuff is not easy to do. But from my understanding, it's not that realistic to poach guys from from Fox just because they're their per hour on TV. Great is very good. So that's what made the azure thing kind of surprising to me. And I think we can confirm here. It will not be big Randy either. Well, we've not heard.

He's not here to speak. No, I got confirmation from his agent earlier today. He's declined any. He didn't say he declined. He didn't say he was offered the job, but he said, we won't be taking the job. Okay. Well, I hadn't heard that. But if you, if you, if you, if you truly believe that, then we'll go.

I do, I'll stick by that reporting. Okay. You wanna wrap it up that? Let's do that. Okay. Thank you for the emergency pod. Congrats to the cat, man. It's always fun to see him back.

It's awesome. I mean, yeah, I mean, it's exciting. It makes me more excited for next season. Yeah. I hope he is able to just stay healthy and do a bunch of do a bunch of competitive stuff. You don't have to win. Like you don't have to win every week. Good for the TV negotiations too. Like him waiting two or three more times before that deal gets wrapped up. It will be pretty lucrative for everybody. Yeah, which is coming up in the coming weeks months, it's coming up soon.

There's gonna be some announcements, somewhat soon. Have heard some things, we have heard some rumors, we're not willing to put any of it out there yet. I may lock it up, may write it down, lock it up, put it in a sealed envelope. It's a sealed envelope and unveil it when it comes out. It's hard to put your foot down and be authoritative

about it when you hear a lot of different things. But I'll all say that there looks to be that change is a comment. We'll see. We'll head out to that. Cheers. Cheers. Get it right club. Be the right club today.

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