No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 27: Adam Sarson

Episode Date: January 3, 2016

Adam Sarson drops by to recap the 2015 season, preview the 2016 season, and fake some laughs at my bad jokes as we try to catch up on a very uneventful offseason. Follow Adam on... The post NLU Podca...st, Episode 27: Adam Sarson appeared first on No Laying Up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up Podcast. I am Chris Solomon, and joining me for the second time on the podcast our friend from the great white north, the biggest ratter cup fan I know, despite not having any allegiance to any teams participating in it.
Starting point is 00:00:44 The biggest Mike Weir fan on the planet that I know, Mr. Adam Sarson, Adam Happy New Year. Adam Weir fan, Adam Happy New Year, you too, man. And I am probably the biggest Mike Weir fan that you know. And there aren't very many of us left out there. So it's good to see him, never able, even though it's usually one or two rooms. What, how long does he exempt through? Is it his his exemption run out first or does Kirk Farance contract? in what were two rooms? What wind is his, how long does he exempt through? Is it his, his, his exemption run out first
Starting point is 00:01:08 or does Kirk Farrant's contract at Iowa run out first? Yeah, no, he actually at the leave he is on a special temporary exemption to sure he's got both major and minor medical. So I believe he's got like eight or 10 events or something to make a certain amount of money. So the chances of that happen there are probably some of none, but you will see him at Augusta. So you're going to have to put up with that until he decides to panic at him.
Starting point is 00:01:33 I hate to laugh, but only Mike Weir could use two injury exemptions in the same year. I don't even know what those mean, but it seems like it was specifically invented for Mike Weir. Yeah, it's not looking good. Well, for those that haven't already turned it off, we do not plan to talk about Mike Weir. Yeah, it's not working good. Well, for those that haven't already turned it off, we do not plan to talk about Mike Weir for this entire session. But I kind of wanted to do an off-season podcast. It's been forever since I've done one. And 2015, a lot happened.
Starting point is 00:01:59 2016 is going to be nuts. So, and Adam's been working a lot harder than I have in the past few months, and he's put together a list of 60 things that happened over the past year, I guess, in 2015. You can check that out at AdamSarsin.com, and I want to talk about a few of the things on that list, as well as talk about 2016 and what predictions Adam has, predictions I have, and talk about the crazy condensed schedule that we're gonna have this next year. But first, we're gonna start off with
Starting point is 00:02:30 Adam's number one story. And I think, I don't remember if you put this disclaimer in, but when we talked about putting together your list, you're gonna put the disclaimer in that the point of it wasn't to rank the stories in order of importance necessarily from one all the way to 60. But the number one item on your list is Tiger Woods is poor year in 2015. How did you get to that conclusion?
Starting point is 00:02:49 Well, to be perfectly honest, you're right. And there wasn't really a ranking system necessarily. I did want to touch on obviously, but we had a great year in 2015. Obviously, with Jordan's feet and Jason Day doing what they did. You know, Worry is, you know, he won four times and people still probably think he had a bat in here. So I mean, you know that that's what we're kind of at. You know, Lydia Colp is well, we know one's really talking about her. The majors were fantastic, probably the best year for majors that we had in my life time anyway, but to me, the biggest story for me was just truly how bad Tiger was.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Now, Greg, we can talk about how he was bad last year in 2014 as well, but it really got to, seemingly a whole other level. I mean, he failed to break 83 times. You know, you shot an 85 with the memorial, he's one there what 8 times, you know, he got, he got caught on Twitter by the ARP. This is not something that we were, what we were expecting Jordan to be, we were expecting Jason to be great, and maybe we weren't expecting Ty, but we certainly weren't expecting this either. Yeah, I mean, you left out a lost tooth at a skete, at a skete tournament, or a ski race of some kind, or you claimed you had a tooth knocked out and somehow didn't bleed as it's in the process of losing a tooth. If it wasn't for Robert Allenby, that would be the weirdest story in a year without a question.
Starting point is 00:04:22 You didn't even argue that it's even more weird than I would be funny enough. I think you can definitely make the case. Well, also the fact that he dislocated a bone in his wrist at the masters and put it back in place and then finished the last nine holes. That was pretty impressive. Absolutely normal. Yeah. Absolutely do that. That's not an issue. Yeah. Well, I disagreed in general with having tiger
Starting point is 00:04:44 being the number one story of the year, just with everything that happened, just because I'm not going to say written off tiger, but like I'm just kind of, until he shows me something, I'm kind of out on him. I mean, what I got really excited at the wind him when he made that, he made it. I'll run at it. It was in the final group on Sunday. It had a triple on Sunday, the kind of broke his back, but no pun intended. I don't know, I just, it doesn't, he moves the needle for me obviously, but I'm not
Starting point is 00:05:12 depending on him from week to week. I don't think anyone really is. And it was the, our transition away from him in 2015, I thought was the biggest story and what speed did and what day did, trying to steal the year away from Speed and Speed basically reclaiming it again with the tour championship. I mean, it was, man, it's just going through your list. It's just so easy to forget all the things that happened to like worry, worry tossing the club in the water and obviously like, you know, it's, you're not wrong. 2015 was fantastic, but just one quick thing on Tiger 2, right? There's only one person who can make the window
Starting point is 00:05:46 on a plane and be in a situation here. And that's him. And the fact is that people found out who Tom Hope was apparently by plane with that. These are the things that happened when Tiger is playing well. And he did play well, and in very, very short instances. But that's partially to me why it was so important. He's the reason why you might sign up for PGA to arrive.
Starting point is 00:06:10 He's the, you know, it was still so shocking to me to see him, you know, play the way he did. So, yeah, I just, I have trouble separating him playing poorly with from the injury. I don't think you can really separate the two at this point, but I just, I don't know, I'd like to see him playing healthy. And if he really, I don't think he's really this terrible of a player now, you know, if he's healthy and get the reps, yeah, and can get the reps, I think he's going to be fine, obviously not what he used to be. But I mean, it's easy to forget. He was in the third to last group of the masters. If it wasn't for speed, what speed did the masters,
Starting point is 00:06:44 he would have been pretty much in contention at Augusta come Sunday, which is pretty crazy to think of now after the summary he had after that moment. But yeah, I mean, with the injury now, I'm not expecting really much of anything for him for 2016. I'd be shocked if he played the masters at this point. I don't know, where do you, what do you have a stance on that yet?
Starting point is 00:07:03 I honestly, based on the way he's been talking, I'd be shocked if we saw him at the Masters as well. And I think what he's probably thinking, in his head, I'm sure he's thinking okay, you know what? I'll be able to start working out again sometime soon and I'll be able to get back, but just the way you saw the dejective work on his space throughout the bigger world challenge in the last month played. He's not ready to do this. And, you know, the fact that he's already been named the vice captain for the writer, talking to him, I almost think, I think we're already kind of reference this as well
Starting point is 00:07:33 a few months ago, what had happened. But to me, that was almost like a raise into the white flag for him. It's like, you know what, I need to be involved somehow, so this is how I'm going to do it, because I'm clearly not going to be able to qualify at points, I'm not going to be able to play it. So I'm not expecting anything from him in 2016. Yeah, no, I mean, I think that's definitely the safe projection.
Starting point is 00:07:56 And I'm mostly surprised, though, that you thought that was a bigger story this year than Page Sparanic, though. I mean, that's the way I thought the big main story, if you read headlines this time of year, that was the main takeaway from 2015. That, man. The whole split page stuff, I mean that's, you know, it's what publishers have to do these days, I guess, but I mean the reaction to Page Sparanic is probably the most ridiculous thing that I have and actually right up there with Alan being Tiger's tooth. I mean, it was like daily. It was daily. It was like she posted a new Instagram picture. It's daily.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Like I just don't understand news news or any any I guess big publication thinking that a post unless you find something really funny like in a post on social media or like some underlying joke there that needs explaining Why does that get turned into a blog post like Jordan's beef made a tweet to end 2015? Why is that get turned into an article like who who's who's not following Jordan's beef on Twitter? Like who needs that like that update on on what Jordan the speech is tweeting. So, not certainly what you or I do on our side, but I mean it's obviously completely different scenario for them. Yeah. Obviously, you have to do those sorts of things. So, it is what it is, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:09:30 The reaction to Page Sprinter though was absolutely insane. Like, I didn't understand. People were crucifying her for absolutely no reason. To back up, you're just talking about her getting a sponsor's exemption into the lady's European tour event, correct? Yeah, that. I mean, you know, if I'm if I'm a struggling tour pro, I don't care what the reason is, I'm absolutely taken in invite. It doesn't it just doesn't matter. No, yeah. No, I mean, I, I, I, I get on my queer for taking invites that he probably shouldn't be accepting and blocking out other people. No, no, I think, yeah, it's very misguided. The anger, I guess, of the frustration
Starting point is 00:10:10 towards her getting an invite, but it's just kind of like, it's a slippery slope. It's like, are we really going to start, and I'm we meaning, like, I have any influence on who gets into ladies' European tour events, but like, is that really what's going to become like a qualifying factor? It's like, I understand there's some factor in a sponsor's exemption, like a Q rating of some kind, and I just don't want to end up being like this horny men's show, like the ladies tour, you know what I mean? It should be about the golf, it should always be about the golf, it's not about who has the most Instagram followers, and who is posting scandalous pictures to their Instagram
Starting point is 00:10:45 to that shouldn't be a path to getting into tour events. That's for sure. We're in the last loop in, but in that instance, yeah, I'm sure, call it the tours and call it the public tours, but public calling her seems a little mistridden. Yeah, I can see that. I think that's fair. But other than that, you know, Dash Day not making the top 10 as well, I had a concern with that. He was everywhere. He was absolutely everywhere. It seemed like any time Jason Day was on TV, Dash was on the right beside him.
Starting point is 00:11:16 But yeah, he was one of the bigger sources of the year, funny enough. But you know, he could not craft the top 10, unfortunately. The year was just too good for him to craft the top 10. And things that I love about this list too, she's just like, I literally forgot about the Keegan and Miguel incident, like that happened back in March. I missed it when it happened, but I get that didn't even crack your top 50 of things that happened this year. They almost got enough fight on the course.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Well, I'll be perfectly honest. I actually scrolled through every single post that a cop porter made on on TV. Oh God, I must take an hours. I took some time to actually do that. And basically I combined that with some other news that I picked up elsewhere and then kind of put them together in a West. But yeah, I know that that was the most, it was one of the most ridiculous things to do. It was like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:12:08 I'll be honest, I mean, you can't tell me that you wouldn't want to play King Bradley. It's a point. I mean, he's very punchable. Very punchable. He's very, very punchable. But, but,
Starting point is 00:12:18 though, I love that whole thing just because, Miguel didn't trust him to take a routine drop. Yep. And I understand it's match playing the way it come on. It's a routine drop, and you don't trust him to do it. But, you know, him and Pepsi didn't involve. It was pretty funny. Yeah, I think I made the point, Shane Ryan.
Starting point is 00:12:35 And I talked about that on his podcast when it happened. I just made the point that like, that's like a typical play in the NFL. Like, there's a little bit of shoving in the little incident. Like, and then they go and play the next play. But when this happens in golf, there's, like, the top story on every website and everything I was discussing at the time, I agree it was a top story, it was hilarious,
Starting point is 00:12:54 but it's just so funny the way, like, a fight in golf just will absolutely never happen on the course, or not with the cameras on, at least. I'm sure there's been incidents, but I struggle to think of a really good incident with the camera on you other than like Bubba yelling at Steve Elkington maybe. That was also, that was, that was probably seven or eight years ago now. Yeah. More Bubba just yelling at anyone in general.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Yeah. Rules officials or aunts that are burying or of course Ted. Oh my god. Of course, Ted even got arrested soul. Probably didn't make it through Christmas. Yeah, Bryson D. Shambot made a appearance, won the NCAA title this year. What do you, I was curious, was what your thoughts are and what you expect from him in the coming year? I honestly don't really know what to expect from him to be perfectly honest.
Starting point is 00:13:47 I mean, he's such an interesting guy. You know, he plays where everyone knows the story right now as well. But the idea that he plays all of his irons are the exact same length, which to me is just incredibly bizarre. You probably know more about that sort of thing than I do. But it doesn't make a whole time of sense to me. He's just, he's a really, really obviously smart guy who, who knows, who knows what works for him, I guess. I mean, he's just, he's very interested in it. I don't think he actually has status anywhere right now. I could be completely off on that,
Starting point is 00:14:19 but I don't think he has status. So it's kind of hard to know what to expect, but if he gets into a mess, I mean, he's, he, he played really well in Australia just a couple of weeks ago. He's going to be able to, you know, it's not going to be like Jordan speed. I don't think with him getting into the John Deere and just, you know, when he didn't all of a sudden become in Jordan speed, but he's definitely somebody that we're going to have to keep a very close eye on in 2016. Yeah, I mean, I'd read about this couple weeks ago in mailbag and I'm not the first to come up with this I think Brandy from one of my no-lang up brethren
Starting point is 00:14:50 First really point out and make the point like yeah, he's like an interesting guy But not really like in the most charming way. It's it seems a little more like look at me look how interesting I am rather than being really genuine you agree? Yeah, I don't like to me, interesting guy is like, you know, like, Henry Stenson is an interesting guy just because of everything he's been through and all that sort of thing. I don't know if I get to exact same vibe from De Shembo, that's definitely the case. Yeah, and going back to what you're saying about his, he's got an unorthodox and you know he plays all the all of his clubs are the same length all of his irons I think just are the same length which I mean I'm 50 50 on it because I'm a big I'm a believer in going with what got you there
Starting point is 00:15:36 But I'm also a believer more so in other sports other than golf and just understanding that Success at one level does not necessarily project to success at the next level. I don't know enough of I'm not watching play enough golf. I don't know enough about him or about his game. His swing is spin-ray, ball flight, all that stuff. I don't I don't I don't track that stuff nearly as much as maybe I should, but I don't know of anything specifically that won't project well, but I think it's a fair question to ask is, can you maintain this unorthodox swing? Obviously, we've seen unorthodox swings work. Think of Jim Furek, Lietz-Rovino, or two people that come to the top of your head, but
Starting point is 00:16:15 those are the outliers. Those are the exceptions to the rule. Does this playing style, having all your irons be the same length? I don't know how it would affect you, but I think it's fair to question whether or not that type of approach can succeed in PGA tour. No, I completely do that. I'm sure it's been done before. Like I don't recall an op-hand.
Starting point is 00:16:35 It's like certain players, they don't use an interlocking grip. You know, Paul A's never did. Stock piercing, I know it doesn't use one now. I actually don't either. But like, it's weird. Like, you don't usually see this much deviation and something that is so, so standard. So I don't know, it's gonna be interesting
Starting point is 00:16:55 to see what he does. I mean, he rocks that cap pretty nice though. So I'm gonna all do that. That goes also in that category though. Look how interesting I am, see? I'm so different. I wear this hat and whatnot. But no, I'm ruined for him. I think he'd be an interesting character to add to the mix. I don't, again, I don't know a ton about him other than reading a couple articles on him. I know. I think Ryan Lavner had a really good one on Golf Channel. I read that and I'm definitely interested to see, you know, I mean, you know me. I'm always looking for the next young and upcoming players, but all each night of Johns is probably the guy that I'm definitely interested to see, you know, I mean, you know me, I'm always looking for the next young and upcoming players, but
Starting point is 00:17:30 Alley Schneider Jones is probably the guy that I'm targeting. I think the most for this next year. I think he's only got three or four sponsors exemption starts left to earn quite a decent amount of FedEx got points So I'm a little I'm a little pessimistic on his chances of earning a card this coming year and I don't think did he end up getting web.com status I don't think did he end up getting web.com status I don't need to remember. I thought he did get web.com status I know he's he's playing a Tory in February they've already announced that. Okay so I mean that's that's something to look out for yet and he's he's a great player too and I mean you know he's he's really fun to watch for sure. You know what we've always talked about too it's like the more characters that this game has the better I mean it's not
Starting point is 00:18:04 it's not like you know team sports where there's so much to talk about. The more people that we get out there like, like Bryce and Deshimbo, he might not be, maybe he's not genuine, I don't know, but he's at least someone to talk about. It's a lot like the whole Patrick Readton, and I know that you're a good Patrick Readton. It works for me. I'm mostly a Patrick Read guy for that exact reason though. I just think I just, I wait, I beat the jokes to death. I'm well aware of that, but it's not gonna stop.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Okay. He's got several mixed tapes that are gonna drop in 2016, actually, so just be prepared for those. The master's one's gonna be absolute fire. prepared for those. The master's one's going to be absolute fire. One guy that had a huge 2015 that almost think for once kind of slid under the radar was Ricky Fowler. Yeah, I mean everyone talked about him in 2015 because he finished in the top five and all four majors. But I mean he won three massive tournaments. You know, he didn't four majors. But I mean, he won three massive tournaments. We didn't win a major, so I mean, obviously,
Starting point is 00:19:09 there's still going to be people who are to stand by that often. But I mean, when in the players, literally the week of the overrated poll that had him and Plutor tied at the top was amazing. And the way he handled it, the press conference afterward, was amazing as well. Then he goes out and wins the Scottish Open, which is probably was probably the best field of the year on the European tour, which I know you'd argue doesn't really say much,
Starting point is 00:19:33 but that's just the way it is on the other end. And then he wins the Deutsche Bank as well. I mean, he had a fantastic season. Yeah, I'd be interesting. I'm sure somebody's asking the question, I haven't heard the answers to which season he'd rather take this season or last season with that awesome major run. I think the answer would be this year with the three wins. But I just the way that he did it at the players championship too was unbelievably impressive. Those that penalty kept firing at a number 17. I think it was Maltby like thought he was wet on the final one and ended up being stuck to six feet. I mean, that just showed how big his stones are.
Starting point is 00:20:06 And he fears no situation. And I see, I feel like you can tell a difference in some guys the way they play under pressure. And a foul is not one of them. I think he almost gets more aggressive and even more cool under the pressure. And I think it's time. And I don't have him predicted to win a major in 2016,
Starting point is 00:20:22 but it would absolutely not surprised me. That's very, very hot take. I think he's a top six player in the world or whatever, but the next step is to win a major and that could be easily coming in the near future. Yeah, no, he's got the game. I mean, he can, and the other thing that it is too is now he's actually, he's got longer opportunity. He's still, he's probably not the most consistent player out there.
Starting point is 00:20:44 I mean, he still has those issues with, you know, with the big number that he needs to kind of get rid of But no, he's he's right there He's gonna be a massive part of the Ryder Cup team in 2013 He's going to be in contention, you know way more than then he has recently so I'm really really looking forward to seeing him to seeing him over the next 12 months. Yeah, I forget what I was going to say about Fowler. Oh, that was going to say it was crazy to me. I was talking about, just thinking about like social media
Starting point is 00:21:16 and influence and what we were talking about with guys that move the needle. I feel like that Sunday of the players was the most active social media day of the golf season almost. Maybe definitely Sunday of the players was the most active social media day of the golf season almost. Maybe definitely outside of the majors and people argue the players should be the fifth major or whatever.
Starting point is 00:21:31 I just remember, I was in Germany or something, trying to watch it on my iPad and tweeting it. Everyone was all over this thing. This was the probably, I had to be the most watched golf event of the year outside of the majors. Well, it's funny, because I ended up missing the last majority of that turn. And I ended up coming home. I ended up coming home just as regulation was ending, so we're just getting ready for the playoff.
Starting point is 00:21:56 And I was just, I was pissed that I missed so much of it, but his run, I mean, you know, what he birdied. I think he was 600 through his last six to get out. He was four shots back or Chris Kurt of the term, I mean, you know, he buried, he was 600 through his last six to get him. He was four shots back or Chris Kirk at the turn, I think. It's insane to think about the run that he went on. And I don't think, because it's not a major, I think people tend to overlook pretty much every other tournament that the two are going to do. But it's something that we probably don't talk about enough is the way he actually came through on that tournament and it just made it so much better That you know in the polter were were names is the overrated players that week and then he just went out
Starting point is 00:22:31 Want the biggest term that they have? So good. I'm fine with polter staying on that list I'm happy also happy with Ricky with Ricky disproving that part But it's like I don't really know how to make this point or how to make this make sense But you know I've been watching a few in my lazy holiday days here watching a few replays of events, even from 2015, I did watch some recap on the player's championship this year. It's easy to like, you kind of need those shows or those highlights to look back and really
Starting point is 00:23:00 truly remember how things played out because it's easy to look back and be like, oh, Ricky won the players. But like if one shot goes differently in the playoff and he gets second, like we wouldn't be setting your having this conversation. So it's easy to just look at the result and like remember the final way of how it got there, that final shot, but like you said, being foreback of Chris Kirk at the turn,
Starting point is 00:23:21 that gets completely lost in your memory. Like you don't remember necessarily the process of how everything played out to get there. And that struck me even more when I watched, I actually watched it with my grandpa when we were in North Carolina for Christmas's the replay of the 2015 US Open and seeing all the things that happened in the back nine of that US Open. Like again, it's easy to remember DJ missed the putt and speed in it up winning it, but that was that was like probably the best finish we've had all year on tour He shot 29 29 ago and he still finished in the top 10. You know, Laurie, Laurie, like barely played well
Starting point is 00:24:25 at all the entire week still finished in the top 10. Like, that was insane. We do learn to know obviously it's, you know, speeds, speeds big coming out. Part of it was probably that tournament. Outside of obviously, you know, breaking the scoop, a time the scoring record at the Masters. But DJ3 put in the 72nd hole from like 12 feet. Like, it's, I cannot believe that happened here. It was, that in the players, there were definitely the two best tournaments of the year in my book, and then probably the Masters
Starting point is 00:24:56 is probably right behind it. Yeah, it was just so weird how it played out. Everything about Chambers Bay was weird. The Greens were weird. Fox's coverage too was just at best. You're right. Bay was weird. The greens were weird. Fox's coverage too was just at best weird. I mean they did a decent job down the stretch of like you know they didn't go to any commercials down the stretch and just showed the action but it just obviously didn't have a great flow to it and whatnot. They ran a promo narrated by the Chambers Bay tree. Yeah that's
Starting point is 00:25:23 a thing that happens. It didn't go very well. Yeah, but you can easily see how that would get approved in a production meeting, right? I mean, that sounds like such a great idea. Well, I mean, the finance trouble wrapped out approved by NBC as well. I mean, they're trying to put no network as absolved from any of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Their approach as there was incredible though. It was. I'll give them that. It was. And I love the microphones in the holes. Irusure was incredible though. It was. I'll give them that. It was. And I love the microphones in the holes. I think that was an awesome, that moment that speed gave us on 16 with that birdie ball dropping in the cup and the microphone being right there for it.
Starting point is 00:25:54 I thought, that's the moment that sticks out for me the most of that whole week. Other than the Marshall trying to stop the train going by on 16. That might have been the best line of the year. Outside what the exception, I guess, Phil, Phil's line down that hill, it wasn't straights, but that's the line of the year.
Starting point is 00:26:14 But yeah, and all that Martian trying to stop the train with his hands, there was other Martians trying to stop the bushes, I think, from starting about, I guess it was a great week. the bush is I think from from swiping about my guess. It was a great week. No, I think Fox, I don't know, I have higher hopes for them in the coming year. I think everyone does. Hopefully, I mean, it can't be worse than it was last year. Hopefully, they're just going to, I think they need to give Holly Saunders a much more expanded role. I don't think her role should be to ask stupid questions at the end of the, at the end of player's round. I don't think they should be asking Kevin Kissner about
Starting point is 00:26:47 how Jordan Speed is doing out there. Like that was just so terrible that she could be in a booth. I'd like to hear Colin commentary from her. I think she she carries herself really well on live TV. She's just not a great interviewer. The big problem that Erdogan run into knows and it's actually something that Joe Bach referenced a few weeks ago is that they're only doing USGA events. So for them run into, and it's actually something that Joe Bach referenced a few weeks ago, is that they're only doing USGA events. So for them, it's impossible to get into a group and try to figure all the stuff out. Like, you look at what Joe Bach does, week to week with Yannick Bellamy.
Starting point is 00:27:16 He does a game every single week. He does games every single week for baseball as well. So he just kind of walks right in. It's actually pretty amazing that they weren't even further off the rails than they did. And then, like you said, the issue is that you're only doing three or four NC year. You know, you're not going to be able to get into a group and they work better as the week went on. But it's going to be tough. I mean, now they're going to Oklahoma this year and I mean, Oklahoma on a little should be a little easier. It was a lot of history that you can kind of play off of
Starting point is 00:27:44 there. But yeah, no, it's not going not gonna be easier than the pick it right up though. Yeah I'll give them that and I think we're expecting some growing pains and I think be out and get Kurt Manifee off my screen I don't want to see that I don't want to see him coming on after speech just one a second major in a row saying that speech doesn't do anything great just get that entirely off my screen. Kurt Manifee is a very good broadcaster, but he was just horribly out of his element. Oh, it's not fair. That's honestly, that's on Foxy. He should not have been doing that. Kurt Norman was hit and miss. They wanted too many, you know, four-man boots instead of just describing, you know, trying to describe what was going on,
Starting point is 00:28:23 instead of just showing what was going on That that was their biggest problem the entire week. So yeah, I like Norman I didn't think Buck was terrible terrible. I just and he's like you said just a lack of experience and my My favorite moment though was when Adam's speed like tapped in for Adam's speed Adam Scott tapped in for 64 on Sunday and like he made the putt and it buck didn't know what he shot and it comes on the screen and he's like and Adam Scott finishes with 64. It's like wait a second, you're calling this event. How is this a surprise? Oh, yeah. It's like, no clue what was going on.
Starting point is 00:29:08 I mean, I had no idea how that's a surprise, and I was dying. I was like, that sums this week up an entirely. The great string grab of Phil, given Holy Sonders a hug, after their interview that's pulled around Twitter for about two weeks. Phil does this stuff on purpose, right?
Starting point is 00:29:25 Oh yeah, Phil doesn't, Phil doesn't, Phil is too smart in two times. He let everything he does, he does with a purpose. There's no getting around that. Every time he's gonna come up on this podcast, it's gonna be something completely not gulf related. We're talking about him sliding down a hill so far, him hugging Holly Saunders,
Starting point is 00:29:40 probably has belly rubs or whatever the president's couple come up. Anything that has, that does not have to do with his play will be a subject of conversation He played the wrong ball. Oh my god Because he thought that a different ball was an even advantage on a par five the most Feel thing ever There's a hint why you have two different balls in your bag anyway, but you know that's that's go right? There's nothing there's nothing else. You can really say about him
Starting point is 00:30:03 He was probably like telling a martial about it too before you put it in play. Listen, I'm gonna put this in place. It's gonna give me an extra three yards and Has to tell everyone around him exactly how smart he is Yeah, he's the best. There's no there's nothing more you can really say about him. No, he The great blind that I can bring in Porra, I've posted as well, I wonder how they spotted their best team, their best team, their couple,
Starting point is 00:30:32 an extra hole and they still didn't beat them. He's not doing it in any kind of malicious way, it's just the way he is, and it's amazing. I mean, God bless him for trying to drum up some interest in the President's Cup. I couldn't bring myself to watch it after the Capca snub. People thought I was joking that I wasn't going to watch it if he wasn't called up. He was one of the best tournaments in the year.
Starting point is 00:30:51 I don't want to hear it. It was a lot of fun. It was a ton of fun. It's actually relevant again, which is shocking to me as it is to anyone else. It was one of the best tournaments in the year. If the Ryder Cup gets anywhere near that kind of intense, we're going to be into one health tournament. I'm very excited for the Ryder Cup in 2016.
Starting point is 00:31:13 I'm not going to lie. We'll get to that in a little bit. First, I want to go very quickly past the Open Championship in 2015 in that borers' shell. Only to mention, somebody the other day tried to convince me that Mark Leachman was in the playoff for the Open Championship this year, but I'd have to, I've been there in person to believe that. I don't remember that at all. That's not a thing that happened in 2015. Please tell me all. Oh, man. Oh, it always happened. It absolutely happened. Jason Day just missed out on that
Starting point is 00:31:41 play. So did speed. Like, the fact that speed was this close to the grand slam is absolutely insane. He really was so close. He wins the first two, misses out on by a shot in the playoff and the only reason why he doesn't win the PGH is just Jason Day just goes off at 20 underbar. That about it. Just in the same. Yeah. Um, Louis used Tason. I think I've made this point before. I think he's like four shots, four or five shots away from being a four time major winner and having three out of four legs of the Grand Slam.
Starting point is 00:32:15 And yeah, he's, I still hear it over that 70s up. But yeah, you know, it's, he's really good. He just needs to stay healthy. Um, and it's, it just goes to show you the whole idea about, you know, about how, you know, certain guys can't close and this and that. And it's like, you know, sometimes someone just beat you because they just had a slightly better day. And that's, and Louis says, it's probably the best example of that. Yeah. Yeah. It's not an indication. Like, how is close calls are don't think are really an indication of him. We've seen him run away with a British open that that exact course before and I thought I thought he was gonna I was definitely rooting for him once it went to the playoff anybody but CJ would have been fine
Starting point is 00:32:54 But it was to you would have been that's your what's your problem with Act Johnson? Like I don't like I understand like he's he's I understand he doesn't exactly embody the whole no way not mentality But I mean he's really just doing what just doing what he's got available in the back, but he's not, he's not going to be able to hit Marines in two. He's not going to be able to be super aggressive. He's just, I know. I don't, I get your other problems, but why don't you just a little off? We've got a lot of problems.
Starting point is 00:33:20 What do you do? I do get this question decent amount. I mean, he's basically the face for laying up, right? I mean, he won the Masters by laying up. And I just, like his playing style is just completely the opposite of what I believe in. I get that he plays within his own bag, plays within himself, and that's the only way he knows how to play. I get that. But I just, I'm not a fan of it. I'm not a fan of his game and that way of playing it. And then, I mean, it was kind of a non-issue until he blocked me on Twitter for absolutely no reason. I never even mentioned him. Never said a word to him. And found out that he blocked me on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:33:56 And that's just what... The word gets hell. I mean, look, I've been blocked by web Simpson and Sergio Garcia for reasons that I couldn't tell you. So, and me, a whole people didn't block my Sergio is basically a crime. Like, I don't understand. But, yeah, I get the logger. But, you know, Zach Johnson laying up in the master, I mean, he's not wanting to reach those holes anyway, like he might as well lay up. I know, but he's just like the face of laying up like that's that's part of my stick Okay, you gotta just let me have this one. I'm just not it's it's he's just I hear that he's a good guy I've heard from you know that that I think DJ Pihowski is one of the leaders of don't listen to don't listen to Solomon on That Johnson he's a great guy. He's awesome. I'm sure he is
Starting point is 00:34:42 We have no this one. Yeah, yeah I'm sure he is He's definitely not in the Baba polter douxiness category like he's completely different category person personality wise I've got no problem of any eight corn out of the Claire jug. It's like that's kind of stuff I'm talking about like that's laying off like come on you can't you can't eat corn out of the Claire jug You don't know what else he did with it. It was the lamest year in the clear the clear at jug history. I can promise you that's probably true. And he ruined Speed's grand slate. I know Speed wouldn't have like two other guys would have beaten Speed but to have him be the guy to break Speed's run like it just hurt it just hurt more than I was prepared for. But it goes to get you the last, I swear for something of the last term I've been to in person. The winners have been ZJ, Matt Koocher, Baba, and I guess Matsuyama won the Memorial last time I was
Starting point is 00:35:44 there, but it was almost Kevin Nal. I've never had a really bad run of in-person tournaments as well. It makes me extra bitter. My first open championship at the old course, and ZJ wins it. Come on, come on. ZJ wins it after about a thousand different delays. Were you even there for the playoffs on Monday? No, I was flying back. I was flying back.
Starting point is 00:36:05 I went to there that morning. Monday morning, we went out there and watched Horsesho a little bit. And then I had to catch a flight. So I had a 420 flight out of Edinburgh on Monday afternoon. I thought there was no possible way I would miss the end of this tournament. I wanted to be on the 18th green when they gave it the trophy away at the open championship. I don't think I'll be. I was part of the deal with flying out Monday and of course I'm on, in the air while speed
Starting point is 00:36:28 is making his run on the back nine on Monday. What are the chances of that? There's no Wi-Fi on flights in Europe. I got nothing, absolutely nothing. And I'm watching it on the train on the way home and he makes the putt on 16 and I get up out of my seat and scream. People probably thought I was attacking the train. I was so pumped it was awesome and
Starting point is 00:36:48 Got home in time just I got home literally as he was approaching 18 and spun that wedge off the green and then I Honestly, don't even remember watching the playoff. I don't Yeah, I was I was unfortunately started work. I mean I ended up catching the vast majority of it I was sitting there working, but yeah, it definitely wasn't the same. So you've got to see Tiger laying up on all the par fours, and then you didn't get to see the most exciting part of the day. So that must have sucked.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Yeah, no. I said we go very quickly past the open championship, and we spent way more time on that than I wanted to. So let's go. Let's slide by finishing with the PGA championship. I said it to Porter, I think, after we debriefed on the PGA that I thought it was the best major performance of the year, what Jason did there. And one of the best major performances I've seen in my lifetime.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Yeah, I mean, it's impossible to put the words almost to be honest. I mean, he was from the first hole on Thursday. He was super aggressive all week. You know, I talked about this a thousand times already, but on 16 on Sunday, he's battling. Jason Day is battling with speed. And he sees speed go into the bunker, the green side bunker on the left side on the 16th and he has all this
Starting point is 00:38:08 room on the right side to hit the green. And there's no reason for him to be super aggressive in any way, but instead he just goes right at the flag anyway, even though he has I believe a two shot lead at this point. And he almost he planted on the fringe and it stays there, but that magic showed you the mentality that he had the entire week. It was like there was nothing. He was never going to stop being aggressive, and that's what it meant.
Starting point is 00:38:31 What I mean to was one, I mean, he won four or five times in the year two, but it was the crowd in achievement for him. And then he didn't play very well with the president, but I'm sure that didn't really even enter his mind after... After winning five times and getting the first major. That's an, yeah, it's a home game form too, right? In Korea, right? I mean, it's the home team. No, I think I'm a big Jason Day fan. Obviously, I was rooting for speed.
Starting point is 00:38:55 So I think it was, I'd love to see a lot more scenarios like that where, you know, the guy, where I'm rooting for two good guys. I feel like I'm always rooting against Bubba or Polter to, it always comes down to those two, or I feel like that's the case. I'm always rooting against one of those two or ZJ at the end of a tournament. So it's nice to have two guys going head to head where I really don't care who wins. I wanted to speak to win three majors in a year but I mean you can't do much better. That's true. There was some evil to root for there. I
Starting point is 00:39:24 underbunded the heroes right there. But yeah, Capca was kept in the top and I saw them on a leader Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain Captain and yeah, CBS could not have dropped the ball and you heard her with that one. I love how high-medias, I must really, how much do I have to be the topic to death to get a mention from high-medias and golf digest, but high-medias even mentioned how often I whine about kept getting lack of TV coverage in an article in actual golf digest. So I don't know if that's a significant accomplishment or like that is a embarrassing thing that happened to me in 2015 but yeah I'm fine with that. You got called out on Twitter seemingly on a daily basis by people who think you beat the pick up kid drum a little too hard. So yeah. I believe Graham Delet did it to you by recall. Yeah he just owned me and said I was being a child about it and then
Starting point is 00:40:23 unfollowed me. So that one now it's done a little bit, but yeah, welcome to the list, Graham, to let. You got to, you're starting to fight with a guy you don't want to start to fight with. I don't think I'll not threaten you. I'm not Stephen A Smith, okay? I'm not threatening you. I don't want Joe for these Canadians, but they're going aggressive. Yeah, you guys are supposed to be nice. What the hell is that, Graham?
Starting point is 00:40:42 Well, listen, you making jokes about us celebrating New Year's early, you're making all the kinds of things. So, you're lucky it's not worse than you already. What was the thing you told me, I think, about how people love Canadians abroad? Do you remember what you told me? I, not 100% sure. I know I told you that Americans know most about their own country. They don't know much else about anyone else That's fair. That's very fair
Starting point is 00:41:09 But you said something like yeah people abroad they love Canadians and I was like why is that he's like You said but I was like why is that you're like well they love us when they find out we're not you That's really fair I've read I've heard that it's like people to do this in Europe. I'd not one of them But they will actually people ask where they're from they'll say Canada just to avoid telling people they're from the US Just shameful all the way to Europe from the US and that must have played some kind of part in them It's my it's my responsibility or I'm taking it upon upon myself to change the appearance of Americans all across Europe. It's gonna take a while. Thanks to what Patrick Reed did when he came over here in 2014.
Starting point is 00:41:51 No, I've actually been pleasantly surprised. I was of the impression that people didn't like Americans here, but when I mentioned that, people are like, why do you say that? Like, they seem very, very confused as to that statement. They definitely don't tend to agree with our foreign policy and our politics in general. But as far as the travelers we meet, the people we meet tend to be some of the nicest and best people that come around. So it's not all bad for Americans over here. Just be nice and you don't have to worry about it.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Exactly. It doesn't matter where you're from. They also like because we tip 20% and that's a strangely, that's supposedly a weird thing on this part of the world. Yeah, if you're in Europe, they don't do that at all. So yeah, you and I are definitely further ahead on that scale for sure. Is that a Canada thing too? You tip 20%? We tip between, typically I would say between 15 and 20. Okay, all right. Well, I guess we're just nice people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:46 All right, I'm ready to talk about 2016 this year. I've made my four major prediction, major winner predictions. I want to hear your four predictions for this year. And I'm not going to let you pick Tiger again for the Masters this year. Please don't do it. And for the record, that was not that bad of a pick. Honestly, you actually played well. He was in one of the final four or five groups on Sunday
Starting point is 00:43:07 before he had to pop a bone back into his wrist. Yeah. I don't know. If for the masters, I'm doing it all about it. I know you're probably going to hate me for that. But I just... The call has been disconnected. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:43:23 He's... For whatever reason, he plays well, has been disconnected. him with a love it so much. I've got bubblewood in the masters again as much as it pains both me and you probably heard. What did he do last year? I don't even remember, I don't remember him being a factor other than he put the green jacket on spieth which I took way too much joy out of, but I don't even remember what he finished last year. He just looking it up now, he did finish T-38 so I mean he does have these little stretches. I mean he finished T-50 in 2013 as well so I mean maybe he's been there to go on this you know good tournament batter with thin flicks but yeah I'm just gonna take all that seems like that's probably the most safe play at this point to be honest.
Starting point is 00:44:16 He's got to game four, he's got to win obviously he's won there twice so I'm gonna go with Bubba. Alright that's fair. I'm looking at Bubba's run in the majors last year. T-38 in the Masters, 85th Miss Cut at the US Open, title 107th in Miss Cut at the Open Championship, tie for 21st at the PGA, but my God, pray for Ted Scott. It just means that he's due. I'll say this, Tirit and Kathy Barton are, is playing there for the first time this year and I
Starting point is 00:44:48 cannot possibly be more excited. Hopefully, you can challenge Bubba for the one. That would be in full support of that if he dethrones Bubba. I'm fine with that. All right, US Open at Oakmont. U.S. Open, I mean, Open-On is just running out of what they're ridiculous grants, right? There's no getting around that, it's what they're known for. So, I mean, it's tough to take anyone who is a bad putter at any major, obviously. But when it comes to a U.S. Open, you need one. This is something that can keep it in the middle. You want someone who's a great putter.
Starting point is 00:45:26 I'm gonna go with Jordan. It just seems to make the most sense. I don't see how anyone wins at Oakmont without being on fire on the green to these and all slighting again. Okay, we can buy that. British Open at Trune. Right?
Starting point is 00:45:48 Is that Trune, right? Yeah, it's that Trune. We're actually between, was it Trune, Baltic, Royal and, and Odemon? Yep. Um, you know, I mean, that's, you know, you're not going to find too many years where you had yet better, uh, better major venues than that. Yeah. Um, I'm probably going to get absolutely crushed by this, but I'm taking Sergio. Yeah, do it.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Do it. Stand by it. Look, I, I will take Sergio in pretty much any major that I, he's, he's doing a one, one, he's too good not to win one. Um, I don't really have much of a much of an of an explanation as to why I would think that he's gonna do well He he was cut there in 2004 when he last held it So I mean there isn't really a run of good form to go on but he's He's not the game to do it. He's one of the best ballstrector in the world. This is the term This is the major that if he is no one one. It's the most likely one Yeah, so I'm gonna research you all right. I've supported I'm with you
Starting point is 00:46:49 All right PGA championship. It's a mere two weeks after the end of the open championship this year Thanks to the Olympics it goes British open Canadian open PGA championship Canada just gets royally boned over on this one. We're getting completely screwed over. There is no way that anyone like you're going to get like the Canadian players. And then I guess, you know, RBC is the sponsor. So any of the RBC does, you might get a handful of them. I'm sure they're going to push for guys like Jason Day
Starting point is 00:47:18 to show up. But God, yeah, it's not going to be a very good tournament. Um, yeah, for, for, they're off to Balter's role. I think they last held in 05. Yep, Phil. Phil, I'm the number one in that year. Um, he's not going to let, um, he's probably not going to win anything. But I will go slightly off the board, I guess, um, guess, and go with Louis.
Starting point is 00:47:45 You stay with him. Okay. I don't, again, don't have much of a logic or a reason behind that. I don't think he even played there in 05. Again, he's just, to me, he's too good. He's too good. He's done it when one of these things.
Starting point is 00:47:58 I will say, though, I think we've talked about this before too. It's been a long time since we had one of those, like, completely off the board, Darren Clark, Rich Beam, major winners and that's gotta happen at some point soon. I don't know who it'll be, like all of a sudden you're gonna see like, Sean Keltz and it's gonna win a major and it's just gonna be completely off the board. Well, the good thing about these predictions is no one's gonna ever look back at them unless they're really right, right? So you can pretty much predict whatever you want here. No one's going back to you.
Starting point is 00:48:29 I've been called an idiot several times over the past, you know, seven or eight months because of my type of prediction. So, I, you know, I'm not, it's actually looking forward to those on all four of my data. It's the best. I pretty much get on a per-tweet basis. So I don't feel that bad for you, but All right, so you're saying no Rory no Jason Day majors in 25th in 2016 That's what I'm normal. All right. I My picks I made them I think in the December mailbag. I said speed that the masters DJ at the US open I Didn't really thought of the greens angle that you mentioned, so I'm a little hesitant
Starting point is 00:49:05 on that, but I'm also a believer of the theory in general that DJ, his presumed lack of knowledge or his, call it willful ignorance, if you will, works in his benefit for his golf game, in that he doesn't appear or seem to have the mental capability of getting in his own head and he kind of is able to block out some of these things. Like the Greens may very well be getting in the heads of a lot of players where DJ just doesn't even think about it and balls out. He plays pretty well at Augusta, but it's never really threatened there if I remember right. So that theory kind of holds a little water, but I just think he's due to win one.
Starting point is 00:49:41 I'm not betting against him to win one in 2016. So I'm I'm taking him to win the US open The open championship Rory's return to glory there and then at the PGA It's going to be the man the myth the legend the moment we've all been waiting for mr. Brooks Capca Yeah, there's no bias there. No, I go, you're completely right though about DJ. You know, you can never be surprised when he wins a tournament, obviously. The whole thing about Rory and Jason Day, I just, you know, pretty thin call tournaments at this point of the year is usually just worth and don't turn it's an any point of the year is usually just a waste of time. But, I worry obviously is to me he's actually probably the most talented player in the world. I don't think there is a debate about that. But, yeah, no, I'm very, very much looking forward to seeing people do this year and the same thing with
Starting point is 00:50:39 your board rocks. Hopefully if you actually, you already won a term this year and he still did it anyway. So maybe if he actually goes in and wins a major, then people actually be forced to get attention to. Well, that was also barely on TV when he actually won it. They didn't show him live until the 15th hole, or 16th hole, but nothing I'm bitter or anything or counting or anything.
Starting point is 00:50:59 But people have already paid attention to the Super Bowl anyway. Yeah. And that's honestly all right. I'm also a little concerned about the rumored equipment change. It's not been announced yet. I would be very surprised if it's not announced on Monday,
Starting point is 00:51:15 which is tomorrow, or recording this on Sunday, the third, that he is moving to Nike. And I feel I wouldn't be nervous about equipment changes unless it's the move to Nike, which just seems to take a little longer for adjustment for most guys Rest in peace Kyle Stanley. Yeah, I mean look Nick Watney never has never recovered Yeah, so you know Don't want to listen find me start to play well last year. I think about a year and a half after you swished So these these switches take time for regardless of what the player is.
Starting point is 00:51:47 I mean, Laurie took a little while, Tyler. I believe took a little while as well back in the late 90s after we've moved on to Tyler's list. I mean, they're always going to take time. I mean, as you always say, the cream rises, right? So I mean, it works as good as everyone seems as edgy as it shouldn't take him so hopefully much longer than that. Yeah, no, and correlation doesn't necessarily equal causation.
Starting point is 00:52:08 It's not like it's a guaranteed struggle, but I just, that's the only thing that has me apprehensive at all for his 2016, but I'm still, still sticking by him. But we've actually gone this long too, and I, have we even mentioned Justin Thomas by name? I feel like, I feel, but, he wins a major without me predicting it. I'm going to feel like I betrayed him at this point.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Well, I mean, you can take speed out of the masters of you if you really want to, but that doesn't seem like the the appropriate at all. So he's I'm watching Justin Thomas. I mean, he's probably the fastest one that I've ever seen. So, yeah, it's he's he's gonna be right there and you know what? He's hopefully gonna be on the rider company as well. Yeah, and that's what I wanted to the last thing I want to talk to you about because I think the Olympic conversation is gonna be very short, but looking at did you did you want to touch on the Olympics then because yeah, I've got I've got very little to say about it, but other than I'm just gonna ask if if I'm supposed to be excited about this, because I'm not. It's like they missed a huge opportunity to make this a match play event by making a stroke play. It doesn't seem any different to me than a regular PGA tour tournament
Starting point is 00:53:13 of then it's worse and that you're limited to four people per country if I'm understanding the rules, right? Is that how you understand it? I believe the rules are that you can have four per country if they're ranked in the top 15 in the world. So right now I believe the US or the only country that would have four going. And then after that, it's only two per team. But yeah, I know you're right. I mean, Shane Ryan and I did a thin out, Shane Ryan, I know a thin per golf digest a while ago now, about actually making them into separate groups and you know and making them matchplay but they obviously you know they want to go about it with short play and I just don't
Starting point is 00:53:50 think anyone's gonna pay any attention to it. I mean you've got guys like Adam Scott who are basically saying that should I really don't care. So I mean it's not a big deal for them. Guys like does a Jordan speed I mean he's always going to say the right things he's going to want to go over but I can't imagine that But they're overly excited compared to what they usually do on the pitch at tour Yeah, the only literally the only reason I'm interested is like it would be bad-ass to win a gold medal I don't care what this for it is like the first time golf coming back since whatever 1904 That's what you're playing for you playing for your country and for a gold medal like that That that's the only thing that interests me, you know what I mean? I think it sounds silly to say
Starting point is 00:54:27 that it's about a medal, but that's just, that would be such a cool thing to have in your resume, but other than that, it's not going to grab my attention too much other than it really screws up the PGA tour schedule this year, especially for Canada, as you mentioned earlier. You know that the last time it was at the Olympics, that a Canadian won the one-of-old medal. That's why they gave that's why they took it out of the Olympics and that's why they're repaying you this way. They were so great about world domination. I think that's must be the way.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Well, it's not an all-day attention to it, I guess. I mean, it's not going to be at the front of anyone's wide, I don't think. Well, yeah, then shortly shortly after, I think, I'll go, what a month and a half after the Olympics, if that, even we have the Ryder Cup. And that's the event I'm looking forward to the most in 2016. And you're going to have to talk me off my ego-filled ledge here, and that I think the US is going to roll this year.
Starting point is 00:55:21 I wish I could. Yes. You lost that ledge. I honestly completely agree. I don't see how... You look at it, you look at the European's human obviously, but they're top of the world with guys like Rory and Stensen and Sergio and all that, but Justin Rose is another one obviously. But I really don't see how the US loses this tournament, unless you know, all of a sudden, they have some kind of catastrophic series of events that go
Starting point is 00:55:52 wrong. And you know, maybe some of my tiger has to play. I don't see how they lose, to be honest. Yeah. No, I mean, I think it's, I know you're probably not looking at a list in front of you, and I wouldn't expect your name enough top of your head, but like if we assume speed, DJ, ZJ, Ricky, Baba are on the team. I think those are pretty much the safe six locks,
Starting point is 00:56:13 safe-ish locks. Then we go, Capka and Holmes are right there in the points, at least when I've last looked at the standings. And then you got guys like Reed, Justin Thomas, Horseshoe, Kevin Nah, Kevin Kissner, Tony Fienaal. I don't, you're not poking a hole. There's no weakness in that team. Whereas if you were to make a European team as of right now, it would include people like, I don't mean to disparage any of these players. I just don't think that if you form a team with, you know, four or five of these guys, that it's really gonna strike a lot of fear in the US team. But Shane Lowry, Danny Willett, Burnt Weissberger, David Lingmerth, Andy Sullivan, and Soren
Starting point is 00:56:49 Keltzen would be on the team, basically, as of now. A lot of things can change. I think Matthew Fitzpatrick is going to play his way into it. Again, a lot of things can change the next nine months, but I'm outside of the Rory, Rose, Stinson, Sergio, Quad. I'm not fearing a whole lot from the European side. Yeah, you've seen a big drop off with the European side. See, you look at guys like Polter and Bustwood who have been staples of this team for 10 years. It seems even more. And they've
Starting point is 00:57:24 fallen right off the knife. I believe Lee Westwood is still in the top 50 in the world right now. I think. But Polter isn't. They actually, the Eurasia Cup, which is in a couple of weeks, which Darren Clark is Captain and for Europe, he had to pick Westwood and Polter as his captain's pick, so they didn't even fall like that team. So, I mean, like you're looking at something, you know, where they have definitely taken a bit of a hit.
Starting point is 00:57:53 I would love to see, you know, the US team go super, super, you all know this and make sure that guys are just in Thomas and works together. You know, even someone with Devon Knowledge, I'd love to see those guys go over there and play. You know, you end up playing it in skies like, you know, like you said, it's on Tellt's and Shane Moury, Andy Sullivan, you know, Victor, do we saw an author's as a little bit of its variance, but you're not running into what seems like the impenetrable wall that Europe used to be, at least in the last couple of Ryder cups. Right. That Iron Curtain has fallen.
Starting point is 00:58:27 I've been getting into the Cold War lately, so that was fresh on my mind. But are you ruling Jim Furek out of this conversation? I didn't hear you mention him. I didn't mention him by name. I'm not ruling him out. At this point, we need fresh blood. And I'm not this, I don't, I know Fierick is one of the most consistent players of this entire generation. His writer, Cup record pretty much speaks for itself at this point.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Do I think he's a better player than Kevin Kisner probably at this point, but at some point, he's going to have to start a little bit of a downturn in his career, I think. And I just, I think they really are going to embrace the theme of young blood. I think this is actually going to be the turning point going with guys like Thomas and what not rather than... I don't know. I have a hard time seeing Dave's love leaving Furek off the team as a captain's pick, but I Just don't I'm maybe it's more of a wishless team than it for me than it is an actual realistic team, but I don't I don't know The world I mean like there's nothing he's I think I was looking at something the other day But since June of 90's there. He's been out of the top 50 in the world like for like 11 weeks
Starting point is 00:59:44 Like it's insane how good he is. Yeah. It's just, I don't know, I wouldn't be throwing. I wouldn't be throwing him on. I mean, I know you'd love to see Billy Horshield get back up in there. So, you know, I just, it's the most exciting event of years. What I'm definitely looking forward to the most, I just, yeah, I just don't think it will be as close as it was.
Starting point is 01:00:04 You know, the last couple of years. I really do think it's the US who have the upper hand here. I believe actually that they've changed the, I believe it's for captain's best. Yeah, it is this year. At least for the US side, I was gonna ask it. Yeah. Figure that your top guys will obviously still qualify.
Starting point is 01:00:22 But then if Davis loved really wanted to, you know, that's where someone might say Justin Thomas who might not qualify based on points, you know, that's where he's probably going to have to get paired. You watch your mouth. I'm really looking forward to it. The reason I was kind of excluding Furek also is just, it is a line of thinking more than it is actually thinking he won't qualify or won't be picked. And if you go the Furek angle, then you're probably, it's a slippery slope to also be
Starting point is 01:00:47 start thinking about like somebody like Koocher. And then Webb creeps his way into the conversation. I'm like, that's the exact kind of mindset and thinking that I would hope David Slub wants to avoid this year. Um, Tiger, Tiger's 36, I'm gonna stand this one. It could, it could happen. Steve Stryker's 37, he actually said he's playing more this year now too. So you know, the veteran presence is still something that can happen. Is Stricker even in event? Can he quase that? He's not in the master's, I don't think, is he? No, he said actually on Twitter last night that he's starting at the Sony and then he's going to the humana. So he's playing two of the first three tournaments.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Wow, must be sick of his family already. I mean, if we're on the Steve's Trick or Conversation, but I'm really a little more to it. So that's the best event that they do every two years. So, hopefully it's still over posted and we're making it out to be, but I'm sure that you guys will let you get back on the winning family. Yeah, and if I'm making jokes about Steve's Trick or Family, who's, by all accounts, it's let me get back on the one in the end. Yeah, and if I'm making jokes about Steve's trickers family, who's by all accounts is probably the nicest guy on the PGA tour that I think it's definitely time to end this podcast because I already feel
Starting point is 01:01:52 I don't feel bad about any jokes and I feel bad about that one. I just made them so. Absolutely. So Mr. Sarsen, thank you so much for your time. We will be looking forward to reading your stuff on Twitter at Adam underscore Sarsen and at of course Adam sarsin.com And we will be speaking with you often during the year I can imagine so thanks a lot for your time and for coming on and Best of luck in 2016
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