No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 273: American Express Recap, Bryson v. Brooks, and Soly Wins A Golf Tournament

Episode Date: January 20, 2020

Andrew Landry survives to win the American Express Championship over Abe Ancer and Scottie Scheffler. We chat about the event in the desert, Westwood's win (36:00), the LPGA & Champions Tour Playoffs ...(38:00), Bryson's comments on Brooks and his vicious retaliation (49:45), The Golf Channel ignoring the Tommy Gainey storyline (56:00), the tour punishing Cam Smith (1:01:00), and a ton more. Lastly, Soly won an FSGA Mid-Am event, and the boys debrief on that at the very end (1:15:00).  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most. championship. Solid here to my left here on a Sunday night in the Killhouse, Mr. DJ Pie. Hey, Solid, how are you? Welcome in. And first time on a recap this year across the table, the big guy, big Randy, just has a passion for mostly for American Express and for Desert Golf. And he's here.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Gentlemen. How are you? The sea wonderful. Wonderful. He's going to it's actually going to be a are you are you the official LPG are now I think on our side? I might be the correspondent. Okay. Yeah. Fearless correspondent. Exactly. That one's, that one's going until Monday where we do not have a result in for that one. Not a lot to take away from American Express Championship, but Andrew Landry threw us a bone there coming down the stretch. Birdied 10,, 11, and 12 was up by six. I think some taunting messages were sent.
Starting point is 00:01:28 I hate that John has made us made me root against Scotty Sheffler. I don't enjoy it at all, but the Fred X Cup makes you do weird things. Taunting Techs went out and it got real tight down the stretch here, coming home. Extremely honest Abe. Fearless 63, guys never told a lie.
Starting point is 00:01:44 I'm sure you guys knew that already. Yeah, I got it exciting. I think, I mean, there's no way to say this without making it sound like a shot at Andrew Landry, which it's definitely not, as I was kind of saying earlier, like I don't have any reason to root for or against him. I couldn't be more indifferent towards Andrew Landry, but it's just the absolute best to watch someone blow slowly like a sick shot lead. Like to just watch it slowly, slowly, slowly unravel. I know that sounds mean-spirited,
Starting point is 00:02:13 but when you have an event like that, well correct me if I'm wrong, I don't wanna watch him cruise to a sick shot with. We haven't seen that in a while. No, I think back to the garrigous moment in Memphis was one of my absolute highlights. I believe Spencer Levine had a similar situation. It's just, you know, it's speed that August. Speed that Augusta, that one was a little less fun, but yeah, it's just the best.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Well, coming down the street. And Kudos to him. I should bring that all the way back around. Like the Burdy on 17, Burdy on 18. Like I mean, it was, he slammed the door when he needed to, but it was, it was fun to watch him kick it away for a while. Which like, come after that stretch of playing at three over par for three straight holes and then parring 16, which was basically like a bogey.
Starting point is 00:02:58 He was directly in front of the green about as easy even up and down as you can expect for a pro. And he didn't get up down. It was like, look like he was actually toast. And I was like, whoa, now he's got to hit an island green and got to cover all that water on 18. And I went over and checked the stats. Nine water balls all week on 17.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Nine times. Nine on an island green. Six water balls off the tee on the 18th hole. Which is, I know this is all based on wind, but I was kind of looking up some numbers. It's crazy how much more gravitas or how much more just kind of like lore the 17th at Sawgrass has.
Starting point is 00:03:35 It's 30 yard shorter and it's like 150 square feet bigger. And this one at Palm Springs, like when you're coming, I remember Adam Long talking about that on, when he won last year, we did that podcast with him right afterwards. And he's at Palm Springs, like when you're coming, I remember Adam Long talking about that on, you know, when he won last year, we did that podcast with him right afterwards. And he's like, yeah, nobody really like realizes how hard that golf hole can be
Starting point is 00:03:51 when you're like coming down with the lead. Like it's insanely difficult. Yeah, but the stats don't really really do. I know, I know. I know, it's not so that, you know, more people don't hit it in the water there. Yeah, scoring average was barely over, over three. There were four bogeys there, total in round four, and a total of 10 bogeys there for the
Starting point is 00:04:10 entire week. There were 16 doubles. Randy, 165, Ileangering. What club are you hitting there? My 165 club probably just like a really elegant six iron. Elegant six iron. Yeah. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. Coming in right to left. OhElegant six iron. –Yeah. –I wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:04:25 –I wouldn't. –Coming in right to left. –Oh, for sure. Just like dapper. What did you think of Ricky coming down the 18th? All talking about his sponsors instead of being a good tension? –Not surprising. –Do we want to talk about Ricky? –Sure.
Starting point is 00:04:40 –Do you? –Well, I would like to talk about it in so far as you know, I received a barrage of tweets after you know the first but more so after the second round when he's I think he was tied for the leader or even winning. And it's just people that get out over their skis and you know, it's like are you were you were you were Randy? This is the year. He's going to shut up all the haters. I think it might be a bit. I think the people might be in on the bit, but it could be a reverse. So I'm get kind of fiery, though. So I'm gonna get angry. I think some are triggered. Yeah. Some definitely triggering going on. And so, yeah, I was a little satisfying this weekend. I just,
Starting point is 00:05:21 you know, I wanted to point out. Well, you shot in the 70s, third and third and fourth round, which you got to go down to like tied for 37th. Matt McNeely to see somebody else who, you know, that far down the leaderboard that shot in the 70s, both, both weekend rounds. So anyway, new swing though, I guess, you know, maybe it's the game changer. Maybe it was a short cut. It was a short cut for him to be greenside there to congratulate Andrew Landry on the win there. Yeah, that was kind of the issue today.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Like, you know, he's going through his swing change. Like, I wasn't really the swing today. He's just coming. He's coming. He puts it. Best part in the world. The best part of the world stuff is really cop fire quickly.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Except what it matters. Who is saying, who is saying the best part? They kept saying it on the broadcast. At the president's. Yo, one of the best partners. Oh my God. He's the, like he is so comfortable here. He is one of the best putters in the world. Well, like technically, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:14 I mean, he's good. Yeah. Well, it depends how big your, your database is. I think it's a dataset. Ricky Fowler's one of the best putters in the world. Except when it matters. I think that's my associate's big point. I don't know if you have the numbers to back that up. Guys, I don't wanna take this down the Ricky path.
Starting point is 00:06:30 All right, I know we've been here before. Let's concentrate on what really matters. Well, I went to Andrew Langerie's World Golf Ranking page. I expect him to be like 60th in the world. I feel like he's been, you know, he's been pretty present on tour. He's like 240th in the world coming into this. Yeah, that's shocking.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Real shake, he start to the year. But I went to look, he finished like 98 or 96 or something in the FedEx last year. So it didn't quite work, but the point of that being how valuable the two-year exemptions are for winning tournaments. He finished runner-up to John Rom in this event two years ago. And like, but having the exemption,
Starting point is 00:07:07 he would have still earned his card through FedEx last year, but not by a ton. And you know, now he's good for two more years after that. It's just, it's so, I know they outline it every time and they spell out all the things that are key as you come down the stretch, but Manit is just enormous to get two more years out there. So how do you, well, do you think it should be changed?
Starting point is 00:07:25 No, not at all. I'm just commenting. Just pointing it out. Just like, there was a, like, yeah, pointing it out. Not saying. When you're just saying, I'm not, I'm literally not saying. I'm not saying. No, no, I'm not just saying.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Not at all. Is it presented without comment? Not at all. Absolutely not at all. Absolutely. I love presented without comment, too. No, I'm not presenting that with any, I'm presenting with a comment that I love. Baseball Twitter had a lot of presented without comment. There's my comment not presenting that with any. I'm presenting with a comment that I love it. baseball Twitter had a lot of presented without comments.
Starting point is 00:07:46 There's my comment. Yeah, my comment that it's fine. Don't change it. Exactly. Can't fall over anymore. Yeah. Fine. A new slid.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Honest a, this was only his second ever top three finish on tour. That was very surprising. That's surprising. Guys made some, he made a lot of money last year. Obviously made the president's cup team played really well there. He will become a PGA tour winner. I would have to thank very, very surprising. That's surprising. Guys made some, he made a lot of money last year. Obviously made the president's cup team played really well there. He will become a PGA tour winner. I would have to thank very, very soon. I know kind of a broken record, but you know, we said the same thing about Cam Smith last week where you know, you see another boon to these big team events like you see guys do big stuff and you just become more drawn
Starting point is 00:08:22 to them and more, you know, wanting to root for them. And like I said, this is probably the first time in a stroke play event. I was really like riding for A-B answer down the stretch. That was a fun feeling. I like having some more context on him. It might have just been like we were rooting for anyone to kind of make it into. It could have been that. That helped it was A-B answer. He is fun. I do really enjoy watching him play golf. And Scottie Schaffler too. Yes. Was awesome. He is. I know you did a lot of opposition research on Tron's team just in case he was to win. I mean, the amount of like, it's just to give you guys an idea of how it works. Like Thursday afternoon, imagine, you know, like, Deon Sanders in the Falcon
Starting point is 00:08:57 days, like running a punt back and like starting dancing on the 40 yard line. That's Tron on like a Thursday afternoon around for Scottie Schaffler. And I mean, he's like celebrating pulling within like two million of me of the lead here with the, and it's not even Hovleness yet. So it's a tough look. Scotty Shephler, he's probably going to win this year sometime. Ah, yeah, he's going. It's, I think like the John Deere's his to lose. Maybe even sooner. I think he's his season thus far is sterling. This is the second third place finish. He's got four top tens. No excuse me four top five no four top tens. So what did what did they that'll be? I would like to say you don't want to like about Scotty Sheffler. He's a big guy. He's tall for sure. Yeah. And honestly, it's kind of fun for me to see
Starting point is 00:09:44 I don't have like this this is gonna sound really stupid. I don't even know what a tour that looks like me. I don't have anybody to look up to in that respect. And like, he's literally, I looked him up, he's only six three, but still it's, it's nice to see. It's a big six three, so it's kind of a unit. He's a little imposing.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Here's what I don't like about Scottie. Of course, would play more American events. Like ever since Kurt Triplett graduated, I don't know, there's no way I can, no way I can pattern my game off of. What I don't like about Scottie Schaeffler is watching his right foot because it gives me anxiety how it actually comes off the ground.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Like he ends up on his toe, not even on the cleat, like on the toe of his shoe at the end of his swing. And it like slides out from under him. I don't know how he, it's maybe it's after impact and it doesn't matter but it gives me anxiety. I was talking to Tron about this today. Well, I don't know what it is about him.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Like, he is a premier golfer, right? But he strikes me very much as like an every man and I can't put my finger on why it is. Tron surmised, maybe it's the baggy clothes. In fact, he like never seems to have shaved, which I think is cool. He has very like, he kind of looks like the best player in your high school conference.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Like when you go to like a high school conference golf meet and you be like, God, that's like, that's the guy. But he also plays two other sports. Yeah, yeah. And you're talking like, whoa, yeah. I mean, he's gonna be starting on the power forward this year on the basketball team and they're returning with three guys, right?
Starting point is 00:11:00 And then he's, I heard he was throwing 87 miles an hour now when he's a pitcher too. And like, it just feels like he's the athlete. Yeah, it does. Where's the athlete that Brooks thinks he is? Andrew, yeah, that's a good take. Where's Andrew, Andrew, who strikes me as like, you know, junior cut, like number two, golfer on like the junior college, who takes it way too seriously.
Starting point is 00:11:19 And again, like, no, you know, no shot at Andrew. I don't know anything about his. He's smoking scotties Scotty smokes heaters, too I mean, I think that's got to count for something. We're literally creating our own reality What else are we supposed to do? I watch it for three hours today. I didn't learn anything about any of these guys Which you know what I actually did forgotten till today Andrew Landry came storming out of the 2016 Oh, I do remember that. Yeah, I was not connecting the time. I remember him coming out But I was like, oh, yeah, that's the same guy. I remember that. Yeah, I was not connecting the time. I remember him coming out, but I was like, oh yeah, that's the same guy.
Starting point is 00:11:45 I remember literally being like, who's like, him versus Dustin Johnson. Who the hell is this guy? Yeah, I think he got vaporized. Can we talk about, well, I mean, I think you have an interesting nugget to note too, that I'm surprised the broadcast is lead with, but barely missing the cut on the pro-AM side of the world.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Yeah, it's hard to underestimate, overestimate, I guess the importance that the Pro Am partner may have had on Andrew Landry, who you may have remembered the Dead Spin story that was floating around about the, there were Indonesian Death Squad leader who has played in this event, sort of like 35 plus years.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Well anyways, he was joined by his son, yet to die. I'm not gonna try to pronounce her last name because it does a disservice to everybody involved. It starts with an S-O-E-R. Can you give it an attempt? Come on. Give it an attempt. Sorje...
Starting point is 00:12:36 Sorjeuse Marno, I think. Wait, here. Something like that, why don't you? Idiot's give it a try. I was gonna say, but like, now you can go watch the Netflix special in the game. Well, right, there's also a lot of good learning how, learn how to pronounce the Netflix special called the art of killing I believe which is pretty damning thing to be the focus you know to have be kind of like your
Starting point is 00:12:53 biography but haven't watched it to be fair. But anyways, Andrew Landry paired with his son yet a diet this week so maybe I don't know played with a little extra pressure a little extra pressure on it, maybe this week. I'm not really sure. Just a quick aside. These guys, these guys, I'm sorry to interrupt. These guys are bad dudes. Bad dudes.
Starting point is 00:13:12 They ran some bad boys. Bad boys. I mean, do you have the highlights of the Desk Bin Article? Well, I really don't want to like celebrate this because it probably is like a horrific story, but apparently they were, you know, running desquads for a far-right Indonesian government back in the 60s, like just killing communists
Starting point is 00:13:32 in like a province of Indonesia. Yeah, so there's that. And he's played it for like 30 some years. So in his defense, please, not a sandbagger. His team finished minus four So in his defense, please, not a sandbagger. His team finished minus four, near the very, very bottom of the Pro Am leaderboard. He was paired with Bryce Garnett,
Starting point is 00:13:51 who did enjoy the same success. He did finish strong, 75, 72, 65. So third round 65, not quite enough to make the minus 28 cut. Kind of a backdoor. He missed it by 24 shots. Can you imagine your Bryce Garnet and you like you get your pairing like?
Starting point is 00:14:06 So what do you do, man? Well, it's like night before. Who's this guy? Let me Google him real quick. Oh, he's got a Netflix documentary. Yeah, it's a tough scene. I can't, if you're ever looking for somebody to carry out some of the ideas
Starting point is 00:14:21 from the commissioner for a day pod, where it could be the guy. Could be the guy to just like make people go away from the PGA a day pod, where it could be the guy. It could be the guy to just make people go away from the PGA tool. So yeah, I mean, like you said, Rainy, it's not really something to make light of. It's just like, I don't really know what else you say about something like this,
Starting point is 00:14:35 other than just like kind of, this is a thing that happens. Like literally laugh at the absurdity that this is going on. The one thing I don't know, like anyway, like tournament-wise, is ever like on the, like has been asked about it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:46 And that's how it's gonna, like, of course nobody's gonna ask Angel and Andrew about this. No, no. No, no. Maybe they should. Like, hey, who was your partner? It was the end of, the Death Squad leader's son, like, what, literally, what was that?
Starting point is 00:14:58 Like, I would read the shit out of that story. I don't really care about like, you know, hey, would you hit into six? Looks like you had a tough time there on 13. Like, you really overcame some adversity there. Yeah, I don't really care about like, hey, what'd you hit into six? Looks like you had a tough time there on 13. Like, you really overcame some adversity there. Yeah, I don't know. I kind of want to hear about the death squad guy. But the only redeeming thing I get, not redeeming,
Starting point is 00:15:14 it's not the right word, but like, with the Clinton Foundation Association to this event a while ago, like I would have to think this guy would have been looked into. If, you know, literally Bill Clinton's going to be at the event I would have to think this guy would have been looked into. If literally Bill Clinton's gonna be at the event and a presenting person, because it used to be in partnership with the Clinton Foundation. So I'm guessing somebody must have looked into this guy at some point and deemed him not a threat.
Starting point is 00:15:38 So from a security perspective at least, but from like a optics perspective, I guess, I don't know, the flip side of that is like, if I was a tournament director, like, I don't really want to be the guy that's like, you're gone. Go tell him, hey, man, you have people don't really want you playing anymore. Like, I'm cool with it, but like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:15:55 big randies, like, are really triggered about it. So we got to really come in from a long time back. My hands are tied here. Can't fight City Hall. All right, I want to talk to some about the status of this event, what we think of it in general. But first, I think we should take a quick break here. For once, I've been tasked to not do the,
Starting point is 00:16:15 do the Calaway mention here. I think Mr. Pie is going to take it home for us. Yeah, thank you, Sally. It brings me immense pleasure to be able to read this, this ad read, this comes straight from on high, talk about coming from on high, Randy. This was handed down on the Golden tablets from our executive friends, friends and high places
Starting point is 00:16:33 at Calaway Golf. I have no idea what's happening. I will read it verbatim, okay. Quote. Calaway Golf would like to congratulate Florida area golf for Chris, Sully Solomon for his wire to wire victory in the FSGA winner series mid-AM event this week Solomon leaned on his new Odyssey Stroke lab 10 putter for nine birdies over two days more on that later and
Starting point is 00:16:57 Used his artificial intelligence infused Calaway driver to hit every fairway during the final round. Is that true? No I did it every fairway with driver. Okay. Is that true? No. I hit, oh, I did it every fairway with driver. Okay, I missed two with ions. Yeah, you really did drive it. Back to the back to the quote. Said Solomon quote, you'll have to pry that thing from my hands, from my cold dead hands.
Starting point is 00:17:15 End quote. His final round playing partner added quote, I must admit that that ferocious club tour on 18 was impressive, but when he got to his true, his golf ball, I had to remind him to go back and grab his golf bag because he'd left it on the tee. Also, possibly stretching the tree. There. We were in carts. There was no...
Starting point is 00:17:33 That's true. Is it really a win if you took a cart? No. Despite a final score that wouldn't have won the senior or super senior plates, the 150 winner series points earned by Solomon vaulted him up the all-important full season rankings landing him in a solid fifth position Also in Solomon's bag where the number one irons engulfed clearly put to poor use as Solomon went eight over on the par three's and fours countered by an eight under on the par five's there was indeed
Starting point is 00:17:58 No laying out. Oh, wow. That's well done Oh, it's been quote as from our friends atigol. I just wanted to congratulate you on your massive victory. And they touched on something pretty troubling there at the end, which was playing eight par fives in eight under and finishing what, what over for the event? I finished even for the event. I believe bombing gouge. Complete bombing gouge.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Listen, the conditions were tough. The greens were, let's just say not running at the full gamut that they could. Super seniors and seniors seem to have no issue baking putts. Well, they played easier hole locations or something. I could have it in. No, I couldn't make any putts. I made two putters.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Showed out the strut. It did help that no one else was making puts. I was, I was, I could have got upset about it, but I didn't. I, you know, I had a lot of 10, 15 photosha birdie. Couldn't, couldn't hit any of them. Made one put outside of 10 feet for the week, but hit it really well and, uh, eke that a win. And we'll talk, we'll talk about more of that later.
Starting point is 00:19:00 I don't want to, I don't want to supersede too much of this golf tournament. Sure. But I do want to talk about herbal active too before we continue. Okay. Um, herbal active, you've heard us talk about them for several weeks now. You are B-A-L-A-C-T-I-V. Uh, they are DCB-D, the only CBD used in this household. You fish, L-C-V-D.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Uh, I will say, I've started using it before rounds of golf. Really? And as much as I would love to credit, I do credit a lot of the Cal way. Equipments provided. It helped me handle the stressful situation. Herbal active, I'd like to credit, I do credit a lot of the Cal way equipment is provided. It helped me handle the stressful situation. Irvalactive, I'd like to congratulate Chris, solid solid. You could probably rub that balm on your wedges
Starting point is 00:19:33 or that, see him grease him up a little bit. You could do it on the, if you do in the driver face, it spins less than it goes through. That's very, thank you. You should do a video on that. That could be some good product placement. No, I put a couple drops on my tongue and I feel like I handled the stressful situations,
Starting point is 00:19:46 the tough lies, the rubber, the green very well. Stable as a table. You can use promo code NLU20 at herbalactive.com for 20% off all your CBD needs. But yeah, I've started to mix it up a little bit more. I used to just go, you just used it at night, and now I'm actually easing into it, using it in the morning and stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:01 I know you like the drops in the coffee. Yeah, I'm a twice a day guy. Drops in the coffee, drops, I've been doing them like a little earlier in the morning and stuff. I know you like the drops in the coffee. Yeah, I'm a twice a day guy. Drops in the coffee drops. I've been doing them like a little earlier in the evening to kind of ease into bedtime. I was doing them right before bed and I was just like sleeping too hard. So yeah, I've been easing it back.
Starting point is 00:20:18 I think I found really a regimen that's really worked well for me. All right, you are B-A-L-A-C-T-I-V for ACTIV for 20% off, NOU20 is the promo code. Now back to the regular schedule programming. This was a tough event to watch after Sony and Capelua. I'm not gonna lie. No elements, like legitimately no elements to deal with. It's truly the stadium course in the dome course.
Starting point is 00:20:41 It is, A-B answers shot at 18. He won, this guy guys like 112, 120. No wind. Like to hear that spelled out loud. It was just like, okay, that's why there's only six balls hitting the water all week on the 18th hole. But it's, I don't know. I'd like to see him.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Like this is the weakest event of the West Coast swing, fair to say, right? It is. I think it's just an outdated format. I mean, the pro-AM kind of format, the three tournaments or three courses. You lose shot tracker, which is important for people that are really trying to follow the event very closely. And it comes, there's no real challenge
Starting point is 00:21:16 in front of them come 18. It's just a birdie fest. And it's a struggle for viewers. It goes up against the AFC and the MC Championship. What would the argument be to watch this over football today? So you got to do a podcast. Yeah. Let me back into an answer to your question.
Starting point is 00:21:34 But I was catching up on some highlights from the Singapore Open today. And shout out to the Asian Tour. They did a great job of packaging. The whole final round in like this eight minute YouTube video, which was awesome, showed all the highs and lows, which I don't know if that's on the agenda to talk about later, but things got kind of nutty over there.
Starting point is 00:21:51 And watching that, I was like, man, maybe there should only be eight golf tournaments that are actually televised live, because you could take this whole fun around of the American Express and cram this thing down to a 30 minute, a 30 minute, like on demand video. And I would, that would be much more conducive to my lifestyle than sitting and watching this thing for, for four and a half hours.
Starting point is 00:22:13 What would you do with the, let's, I'm trying to do some quick back of the napkin math here. Yeah, the around 17 million dollars that are paid per week of a new contract to a broadcast goal. Right. Those are all things that can be sorted out in the boardroom. I wouldn't claim to have the answers to those questions. Some suit and pun if you just don't figure that out. The point, obviously, tongue and cheek being, yeah, it's hard to differentiate these things. And I think that's, I don't know if it's a byproduct necessarily, like the FedEx cup
Starting point is 00:22:42 stuff where every event feels like, you know you know has to have equal weight and every event needs to be kind of treated the same. But it's tough when they're so obviously not from an entertainment standpoint. You know what I mean? Like when the interest level is so much less and maybe it's I don't know. I mean we haven't seen ratings. I can't imagine they're great, but we'll hold off maybe until we do, but you know what I mean? It's just, it's a predicament that seems like it has to be solved, but then now with like the reports on the TV contract,
Starting point is 00:23:12 like maybe it does. It's just kind of like the way of the world. Yeah. Randy, I was surprised that this was one of the weeks you volunteered to come do a weekly wrap-up podcast. Well, you know what, this week always held a certain regard for me because it's traditionally been Michelson's season debut each year on the PJ tour. As it was once again.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Yeah, exactly. So in my earlier years and still this year, that was always a reason to tune in. Obviously, it didn't play well this week. But how many times have we seen Phil, not play well at this event, and then just go on a tear in Saudi Arabia this week? I mean, for sure. For sure. Which he did claim he's about to do. Which I would probably use the different word
Starting point is 00:23:57 for getting ready to go to Saudi Arabia than tear. But January, big month for death squad leaders. I know. That's God. So they all kind of put their hair up real. That's a tough decision. I, uh, I feel like, yeah, you need to face some. You need to face some.
Starting point is 00:24:13 You should have to explain. I know. I know. I feel like he's got to face some heat. First, I want to, I want to, I'm curious how he would really respond to some tough questioning. Uh, well, his tweets about it were concerning, I think, and that Billy Bites was, you'll be okay. Oh, yeah, God, I forgot all about that.
Starting point is 00:24:32 He was like, going back and, it must have been like ripped on Red Wine or something. He was going back and forth with like a bunch of people who were criticizing him or a Twitter. Yeah, a bunch of like journalists. And just basically like patting them on the head, like you need to stop worrying about this little old thing. Like this is gonna be totally fine.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Phil's go out of like, which works when it's like, hey Phil, you shouldn't have two drivers in the bag. It's kind of cheeky when he's like, oh come on relax, everybody chill out. It's like hey, you shouldn't be supporting like that, regime that killed a quote record number of dissidents last year. His quote was, after turning down opportunities to go to the Middle East for many years,
Starting point is 00:25:08 I'm excited to go play and see a place in the world I've never been. Which, listen, if you break that down, that's better than grow the game in the kingdom. Which is, yeah. I never had golf in the kingdom, is that what it's about? It's exactly what it's all about so I understand those who are upset or disappointed You'll be okay. I'm excited to experience this for the first time and then he told to paraphril
Starting point is 00:25:33 It responded to European golf writer you and Murray. He said he said to quote Kevin Hart you do you I'm gonna do me Which listen for sure. That's it. That's his prerogative. I, it's not good, it's just not a good look. It's all about the money. I mean, I think we can probably agree on that. So, it's disappointing. He's also moving to Jupe, which also appears to be probably all about the money.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Right, yeah, yeah. That's a weird, I wouldn't think that I would have any semblance of like caring where these guys live. But there's something like, he's a cow. That's a big appeal to the whole Phil ethos. Yeah. It's like, man, yeah, it doesn't make any sense for him to still live in California, but he does it anyways, because he loves it there apparently.
Starting point is 00:26:23 And to like hang that up, sucks. I don't know. That feels like it, it feels like taking an L. Does he, are all of his kids about to be in college? What, how old does young this kid? Is that why he would be in this school? I would assume so. I would assume so. Yeah, that's part of the reason I would have to hide.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Which I, I guess, yeah, in that front, I guess it's cool that they waited till like kids got at high school and you know, didn't move them and stuff. But I, I think, we can say, at least from things we've heard, the money situation for Tiger and Phil, you would think would be just like everything is, they have so much money, don't even know what to do with, but they both have expensive habits. So I think that there is still a lot of incentive for them. Apatite.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Yeah. Apatite. A lot of incentive for them to make a lot of money. I think is the most safe way I can phrase any of that. I think that's right. I mean, it's like why wouldn't you? Or not. I think, I think Phil's going through a weird,
Starting point is 00:27:22 it kind of feels like he's been in this prolonged, almost midlife crisis adjacent stage. And I'd die it. I'm not sure if it's like that, or if he's just kind of bored with, like he's been golfing and kind of doing the same thing for however many years now. And this isn't me saying it,
Starting point is 00:27:43 but also it might be gone. It might be, the game might be gone. Like if you look at his game, yeah. Like it might be. And then it's like, yeah, he's 50. Right. And it's, yeah, he might just not be adjusting well to that reality of what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:28:00 That's what I'm saying. It might, okay, well, my game's kind of gone, I might go take whatever two million bucks to go play in Saudi Arabia. Like why wouldn't I? He's up to him, he's not, okay, well, my game's kind of going, I might go take whatever two million bucks to go play in Saudi Arabia. Like, why wouldn't I? He's up to his not gonna be here forever. So I would to circle this all back though. I would respect him or anybody else being like,
Starting point is 00:28:14 yeah, it's about the money. And like, oh, it's grow the game. They're doing some awesome things over there. The roster people, like, the roster of people who are going to play Saudi Arabia, like Americans anyways, it kind of speaks louder than anything I think we're gonna say, right? It's like who Phil Brooks, Bryson Reed,
Starting point is 00:28:36 like who else is on the, is there anybody else on the list? I don't, I'm sure Kutur's going over here. I try to get super worked out, I don't think that's good. It's just like, yeah. What makes it, I think that some people can kind of pass over it pretty easily, is like, okay, yeah, what are they supposed to do? Like other countries are bad. Like it's literally the country, like the regime
Starting point is 00:28:57 that puts the tournament on. So it's different than just like going to, I don't know what the, what the compare is, like the Turkish Airlines open, I think is different than like the Saudi event in that, you know, Turkish Airlines is sponsoring the event, which is like the, like I know, soft bank is now sponsoring, but it's weird.
Starting point is 00:29:14 I think the event is actually funded, I believe it's very Saudi. Well, no, I mean to your point, it's like, these guys, the fills in the Brooks who maybe don't need that paycheck. And I get it, there are other countries that have their own problems, but it's like, yeah, where's the line for these guys? Where would they draw the line? It's not here, which is a little concerning.
Starting point is 00:29:39 A couple people I don't want to leave out who are choosing to go play this. Brooks, Dustin Johnson, Patrick Reed, Tony Fino, kind of surprising, but maybe I don't know. Money, Shane Lowry, Henrik Stenson, Sergio Garcia, Honest Abe. Sergio, going back is an upset, honestly. After what happened? How about his quote this week about how,
Starting point is 00:30:00 you know, that wasn't a true reflection of him and he's willing to, he's ready to show the true Sergio. Oh, he's mature. This week, when he returns to golf in Saudi Arabia, which is like, if you break that sentence down into two parts, I'm ready to show the true Sergio. I was sick when I returned to Saudi Arabia. So, you're all right, well, yeah, no,
Starting point is 00:30:19 maybe you are showing the true guy. Like, that's, that's, that's, that's, well, smart and kind, or lead westwood. That's, that's, that's what I talked to a couple European tour players about disappointing names. Yeah, but it's like, hey, like if you got into like Saudi Arabia, would you go and it's like,
Starting point is 00:30:32 oh yeah, it doesn't even register for most. And I think that's different then. Well, that's what I was gonna say. I don't want to give top American points. Someone like an easy out. But if, yeah, if you're a European tour player who's like looking for, you know, you need race to do buy points and you're trying to like keep your card, you're trying
Starting point is 00:30:49 to do all these things like that makes it a little bit more of a conversation than just like, no, I don't even fucking play on this tour, man, and I'm just like just coming in for some cash. Like that's not hashtag, not good. No. Anything else from American Express? We got a lot of other events to touch on. I didn't watch a ton of other stuff. Well, the only other thing, we kind of alluded to it. We didn't really dig any deeper into it, but like, so if this event is not good, what needs to change?
Starting point is 00:31:18 Does anything need to change? Do you leave it as is? Do you have any ideas? And I say that not having any ideas. Oh, I have ideas, but like everyone would be a caveat of like, well, they wouldn't do that. They wouldn't do that. They wouldn't do that.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Well, I mean, how many great golf courses are there on the West Coast? Oh, yeah. I mean, like keeping an impump springs, do you have any? Not really. Like, because I, I think our default answer for a while was, like, oh, it should be a team event. Or it should be whatever.
Starting point is 00:31:45 I'm like, I haven't candidly haven't watched Eric the last two years. Right. So I don't really think it's that. And the program stuff, I don't really have a good feel for what this tournament was like. I mean, I'm sure when it was the Bob Hope back a million years ago, it probably had a great bang.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Yeah, Jim saying that it's a diet, diet, diet, Bob Hope. Exactly. And I feel you have diet, diet, Bob Hope. Exactly. And I feel used to like that. That whole thing just feels outdated, right? Because I think you used to have, I mean, I don't know, all the cool celebrities used to like golf.
Starting point is 00:32:14 And like now it's death squad leaders. Well, not even that, but it's just like, like you'll see it at a pebble in a couple of weeks when, you know, they trot out like, for every Justin Timberlake that plays once every three years, which even he's like, what was he like 42 now? Like for every one of him, there's- Don't you dare to-
Starting point is 00:32:30 35. So we're bare up. Gary Mule Dears and the principal building from Save by the Bell or something. And it's just all these like Chris Burman. Yeah, it's all these- Whoop! It's all these celebrities that just,
Starting point is 00:32:44 like it's no fault to their own. Like I would play for sure if I was them, but you know, what makes that format cool is when you wanna watch the people rather than, like, came in, you're just really just getting in the way. And yeah, so I don't know, the pro-amp format is not really trending in them.
Starting point is 00:33:01 No, positive direct. It doesn't suit the TV audience, which. Unless the people are like, or like, early in the suit the TV audience, which did they show any of it? No, they didn't. They've kind of like super going away from that at this tournament at least the last few years. They obviously pebble they lean into it, but maybe that's where they make all the money for charity.
Starting point is 00:33:15 I would have to look at the receipts on that for how, why that's, I'm sure there's a very good reason why they do it. It just is not great for golf fans, but the last thing I will say from American Express and Randy goaded me into it by like we got tagged by a bunch of people with the Kevin Nah, Russell Knox, bunker shot on the 16th hole, Nah leaves his ball right next to the hole. Russell Knox hits a shot. I didn't even hear the audio. I got to tell him to be able to tag. I'm like, I'm not going to say anything. I'm not doing
Starting point is 00:33:43 backstopping again. I'm not gonna do it. And then Randy Sinsa long. The audio, we're Kevin Nauyels hit my ball as Russell Knox's ball is rolling by it. And I was like, okay, now I think, now I see what Bill or Tagan is in on this because it is worthy of conversation. And it just rehash the same conversation
Starting point is 00:34:02 which just brings out the worst of Twitter of like, if you could aim at that, if you could aim at his ball, why wouldn't you aim at the hole? There's no, it just misses the whole point on the fact that you wouldn't do it on the 72nd hole, the championship, and you shouldn't leave your ball to help another players. That's pretty much what it sums up to. I said previously, I wasn't gonna comment on it further and we're gonna get involved again. I forgot about the wrath every six to eight months. I forget about how just nauseating that conversation is. I fall back into it and regret it,
Starting point is 00:34:33 and that's what happens that day. So it won't happen again. I would like to point out that I've been on a firm, I don't care about this block for more than two years now. Congratulations. I don't think I've ever commented publicly, but I do like, I'm curious what you think of you and Tron
Starting point is 00:34:48 to get you guys fired up. Well, I will only, we get tagged in literally every single week, like, oh, well, backstab, look at this one, and it's like, shot from a hundred yards, and like, all right,
Starting point is 00:34:59 we've lost the plot here. I will only comment on the most egregious violations just to point out, it's not gonna be called, stop tagging us in it because they're not changing the rule, the rule it's scumming, players continue to do it but by the level of law they can continue to do it. And it sucks and it's funny to see guys
Starting point is 00:35:17 go up like JTA Gobern market on the 72nd hole at Capelua. Super funny. It really is. So yeah, it's really. The USJ did have like the word backstopping. Yeah, a rule clarification, which is pretty sweet. But it didn't change anything.
Starting point is 00:35:31 And it's still like, it's clear. Players have to agree to leave a role. It was a rule refinement, which I don't understand like what constitutes an agreement. Do they need like a signed contract of like, hey, leave this here. It's gotta be notarized. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:43 It just doesn't, doesn't make sense. Right, you'd make a great notary. I know, I've wanted someone to know what you need to do to become a notary. I think my, like my mom or my brother's one, like I don't think it's a big deal. You just fired up. Well, put that on our to-do list.
Starting point is 00:35:57 What's that? My guy, AJ, at the UPS store, is a notary. Yeah, I think so. I wouldn't want to undercut his business. North Florida area, the UPS store in Atlantic Boulevard. We're huge fans. We got to get through a couple things because we've let Bryson and Brooks fall way far down the list.
Starting point is 00:36:10 It feels like it was eight weeks ago. I know. Lee Westwood won an Abu Dhabi. Only his second win since 2014. I know he said kind of research and so I would have just pictured more in between there. For sure. I've been like, he's super not my favorite player or has been not my favorite
Starting point is 00:36:27 player for a very long time but a lot like the Brooks resurgence we've seen just like culturally resurgence over the last few years. I'm way in on the like divorce dad. Yeah I just kind of like yeah I'm divorced dad who just like hangs out in parties and like if I play well awesome yeah if not not, that's cool too. Yeah. That's pretty cool to see that rewarded with a big ass win in Abu Dhabi. Yeah, seriously. And then he picked his ball up with his,
Starting point is 00:36:52 I don't even know how he did it. He scooped his ball out of the hole with his putter. Like he squeezed it, he put his putter like with the putter head, not like one of those things on the end of the putter, like the grip of the putter, but the same concept. He literally stuck the putter head in, no, not scooped it.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Like he smashed the ball with the bottom of the putter. He's got one of like fang putters. Oh, that's cool. That's cool. I think, yeah, I could be wrong on that. Yeah. That's what it looked like in the putter. It gives me anxiety watching people put putter heads
Starting point is 00:37:17 in cups like banging them around in there. So I'm saying he doesn't give a fuck. Yeah, that's true, true. He might have gotten that putter for free. We don't know, but like, that's true. Yeah, but yeah, now he's, he's in give a fuck. Yeah, sure, true. He might have gotten that putter for free. We don't know, but like. That's true. Yeah. Yeah, now he's in all the majors, WGC,
Starting point is 00:37:29 he's up to like number 29 in the world. Is he real? Yeah, it's nuts. It's wild, man. That's awesome. Yeah, so I would be remiss if we didn't give a shout out to Andy Johnson has been beating the Westwood Island drum for like literally three or four or five years.
Starting point is 00:37:47 So I'm sure he's going to have what headache tomorrow. LPGA tour. Randy, this was, I'm just going to turn it right over to you. Yeah, thank you, Chris. If you can see behind me, we're reporting on Big Randy down the scene. Randy, take it away. Yeah, Chris, I was in Orlando earlier this week and I had a chance to walk around. No, you know what? They got season opening, diamond,
Starting point is 00:38:12 resorts tournament of champions, kind of the LPGA version of the Genesis tournament champions on the PGA tour, except there's also a celebrity component involved. Got good NBC coverage this weekend, and a good battle. I'm obviously the playoff as you alluded to earlier has not concluded. They will be going to, I believe the sixth playoff hold Monday morning at 8 p.m. Eastern time,
Starting point is 00:38:41 8 a.m. if I may correct you there by 8 a.m. What did I say? Thank you, Chris. Thank you you. It's a fluid situation. The information's coming in quickly. The playoffs between Gabby Lopez and NASA Hatokey. Hatoca. I don't know if I'm I apologize. It probably did not pronounce that correctly. But it's like I honestly think they might play five or six more playoff holes,
Starting point is 00:39:06 because they're just playing 18, which is, they had it. Jay does that a lot. Yeah, well, they had it and get this. It's a part three, like 190 yard, like it's a difficult part three, water left. And so they're hitting like hybrids and five woods off the tee bunch of threes and fours. And the pin was like tuck to the left.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Yeah, it literally there was no birdie made. There was one birdie made all weekend at the 18th by a professional. So they're just training pars. Maybe they might play all it could be like that. Isner, whoever that tennis match at Wimbledon that went like three days. I really think they could take a while tomorrow. What golf courses set? It's the four seasons.
Starting point is 00:39:52 All right. You don't really know. Yeah, it's just like really big. It's a pretty broad-savvy. Pretty plastic. Pretty plastic. But no, the only other thing I wanted to say was I got down there earlier this week to to trap Dral with Annie Park, and then I also did a trap draw
Starting point is 00:40:07 which will be coming maybe towards the end of this coming week with John Smoltz. Ever heard of him? Ever, he's a hall of pain. It's like a real sport, not even golf, a whole lot of it. Right, right. I mean, just a couple of athletes
Starting point is 00:40:21 chopping it up. Was it mutual admiration society? For sure. No, he didn't really know who I was. I got a funny photo. I'll post when I dropped the episode, but he won. He defended his title in the celebrity division.
Starting point is 00:40:34 And I think that the talk of the weekend for that, he's got one of those stand-up hunters. Oh no. But it's not the one that they're running all the info marshals for. No, that's the one that like Ernie Elzes involved. Apparently Ernie Elves like, yeah, invested in this company. I won't name it, no free ads, but.
Starting point is 00:40:51 This is an easy quick transition to Ernie L's playing his first PJ short champions event this week. We'll take me there. That's about all I have on the LPG. Well, it's gonna be, yeah, back to you Chris. Thank you, Randy. I'm out here in, I don't forget what island they're even on. But it ends in a foul.
Starting point is 00:41:07 It does. Yeah, no. Ernie L's playing his first champions tour event, lost in a playoff too. Miguel on Hell, Jimenez, which Freddie was in playoff too, right? Allegedly, yes. That's a report we're getting. I didn't know it in its Saturday. I was really, that's definitely, definitely missed that.
Starting point is 00:41:24 So I wanted to pump the brakes for a second on the Champions Tour, which is maybe a surprise to my compatriots here. But Aiman Lynch wrote something about Phil's decision to kind of just like abstain from the Champions Tour for a while. He was very tongue in cheek. Phil was that is on, I'm hitting bombs. Why do I need to go out there quite yet? I'm gonna play out here as long as I can, which I think everybody can of course understand and agree with, sympathize with, whatever you think.
Starting point is 00:41:59 What are, give me your thoughts on the current day P.J. Tour champions. Like what is it to you guys? As two massive golf fans, just to take me to, what's your word association that comes up with PJ Tour Champions? It's, the first thing I think is the scene in Zoolander when he talks about sting being one of his idols. Like the champions tour I know is it like it's out there.
Starting point is 00:42:29 It's not really my thing, but I respect those guys that they're doing. Scott McCarrid's a big influence. Yeah, let's do his music. I don't really watch it, but it's cool that they're doing it. I respect that. I think it's important for you to really get out of the house and remain active. No, I'm serious. I think it's too, you know,, to really get out of the house and remain active. She says, no, I'm serious. I think it's too, you know, you can get sedentary.
Starting point is 00:42:48 You can, I think it's fantastic. I think we will feel differently about it when we are like in our 50s. Will we? Because is anybody gonna play it? I think so. Yeah, I definitely think, like if Furek is enthusiastically gonna go play it this year,
Starting point is 00:43:06 I think people are gonna go play it. The one thing you do here is that those guys are just, they need the competition. Yes. So, you know, the money, whatever, but I think they just need an outlet. Some need the money, but yes. And the other thing you hear from it, from players,
Starting point is 00:43:18 that, you know, of course they're gonna say this, but I do, like, believe they're being earnest, is that it's super fun. Like, the guys, if you've ever been to an event, like, it feels weird, unless you're a sicko hardcore golf fan to really urge you to go to one of these things, but there is no pomp and circumstance.
Starting point is 00:43:36 It is very stripped down. It's very accessible. Like, you get the players are, it's like, you know, the competition's serious, of course, but like, it is like a glorified pro-amp a little bit. Like, the guys are walking around having fun. They know, the competition's serious, of course, but like the, it is like a glorified pro amp a little bit. Like the guys are walking around having fun. They come in the clubhouse and like drink beers after their rounds and all are like shooting the shit together and stuff. And so the no cut, like three-day tournament thing is, I mean, that's what they pretty much all are except for the majors. And that vibe gives them like an extra
Starting point is 00:44:01 day to get to places and they're just so much more relaxed because like your week just starts a little later. Monty talked about on the pod how he goes to national parks and goes and sees stuff early in the week and you just need that much time to prepare for the course and it is like a really cool vibe. And if you have an event that's anywhere near you, it's definitely definitely worth going. Viewing on television, like I,
Starting point is 00:44:23 that's what I was gonna say is like having said that. I don't ever watch it. I don't ever know what's going on. I don't ever, and maybe it's just not for me. But as a mega hardcore golf fan, I don't know. Well, it's weird watching it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, and I'm thinking the same thing where it's like,
Starting point is 00:44:40 I'll watch the odd major or if I got like monties and contention and I just want to watch somebody specific. And then I'm also thinking, I've been to a US senior open, I've been to a couple senior events and they are. They're so much fun to be in person and you feel like they're obviously really good golfers, but it's not the mutant game that sometimes you can see on the PGA tour, but but I'm curious to kind of ask a question of you guys is I you know, we just got done talking about the LPGA and I would feel like this would be a lot of people's natural reaction
Starting point is 00:45:17 To like the LPGA tour too where it's like well. Yeah, I don't know. I just don't want like I'm a huge golf fan I just don't I do feel like a lot of that category a lot I mean, I'm like know. I just don't want like, I'm a huge golf fan. I just don't watch a lot of it. Category a lot. I mean, like exactly what you said, like I watch the majors. I'll watch if, you know, someone I know is in contention and like I kind of hate saying that. And I need, it's, but it's kind of a, I don't know, it's kind of a lift to really get into another tour.
Starting point is 00:45:41 I guess. I don't know who has time. I was just gonna say, you know, I think in this, the year of prioritization, it's, you only have so much bandwidth to devote to like watching golf. So you almost have to, if you listen to a previous idea I had, if they would take these rounds and shrink them down into like 30 minutes or an hour, I would watch a lot more. Yeah. And they could still do that. Maybe they, that's what I'm saying. Well, that's what, what I was getting ready to say the whole time, everything, like, our points on the broadcast changing for PGA Tour
Starting point is 00:46:06 are very well documented. But if you're not the PGA, I mean, I know it's the PGA Tour, but it's a different tour. If you're not counting on people tuning into watch tiger and all that, you gotta do something different with it. Like, it's gotta be weird. It can be whatever, like this week on the Corn Ferry Tour,
Starting point is 00:46:24 the PGA Tour live is out there. They're like, how he led better was on the coverage today. They're cycling people in and out. They're kind of got people rolling in, just kind of telling stories. It's not as much like all the detail stuff of all the things that are going on and around. And it's different. It looks different. They did mic'd up coverage last week.
Starting point is 00:46:40 We talked about it in the Bahamas and you're actually hearing players, conversations and stuff, like try stuff. Like what's a good a good if you try something it's a disaster. What's your rating gonna go from point four to point three nine five? I don't even know how the ratings work, but like it's not it's gonna be minimal You have minimal minimal downs people who are in the boat are are pretty much in yes I was like, but that's kind of the thing is like all you can do is is like drive them away by not Innovating they're doing something different. Do you know what's a big factor for me though, is the course. And I think that's, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:09 it's what we talked about with the American Express this week where, you know, like the senior, the Chamions Tour events that I will watch, maybe they're like a funky course. So there's like a, you know, a hole that plays a little weird, maybe a tree in the middle, you know, like something, you gotta give me something.
Starting point is 00:47:26 If it's just flat and target golf and there's nothing visually stimulating, then, a lot like the LPGA, it's like, I think the more interesting venues you can get to, the more you will draw in people like us. Which I think goes hand in hand, and we say this about the LPGA all the time, but like the game, the champion's tour is not quite the same level like those guys still
Starting point is 00:47:48 Surprisingly like vomit All just because they're all in such good shape obviously But they There's specimen. Yeah, like the LPGA especially like you're allowed to go to a lot more different courses The infrastructure is not as big the game is not as big, literally. It's, yeah, there's a lot of reasons to shake things up. One of the things I took away from the Capeloo coverage was like Mark Rolfing just felt like so loose
Starting point is 00:48:12 and like kinda in DG AF mode a little bit. And a lot of that was just like, oh, come on, we're in Maui and everybody's laid back and blah, blah, blah. And I know it's kinda like a bit, but it also just made the whole thing seem so much more accessible and so much more like enjoyable. Like you said, like it doesn't have to be all serious in titles. In fact, it shouldn't be.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Yeah, exactly. And yeah, maybe it's Sunday afternoon for sure. Yeah. Like Thursday afternoon, like dude, Friday afternoon. Well, for the champions. Oh yeah, I'm just saying, I'm saying for the PGA tour too. Like any of these tours, just yeah, on a Thursday afternoon, Friday afternoon, Saturday morning, like, dude,
Starting point is 00:48:51 you got it, like, keep me entertained with something. Well, and because like Brian Stewart, like in T53, putting for par on six, like that's not really gonna do it. The last thing I'll say, I know we got some of the ground to cover, but in light of College Football and National Championship game was a couple of Mondays ago, and ESPN offered a wide range of different telecasts for the game, and one of the telecast options, which I watched, was the coaches, like essentially the coaches film room, where they had four
Starting point is 00:49:19 active coaches sitting there watching the game, all miked up, and you're just essentially flying on the wall watching coaches watch the game. And it's like free idea for the champions who are the LPGA. Like get some personalities, guys who've played, get them in a room, you know, have food beer and just, you know, telecast those guys watching the golf. And I'm watching that if they're, you know, at all allowed to say what's on their mind and really be free, like to your points,
Starting point is 00:49:52 like mix up the broadcast. Get my team there after his rounds over. That stuff like that would be awesome. Okay, we put this off long. I'm trusting at the seams here. Bryson, I don't know where one day this was. It has been a while ago, but Bryson, while on Twitch, apparently he goes and plays for-
Starting point is 00:50:11 Can I ask you guys something? Sure, sorry. I don't know what Twitch is. So it's like, I've heard it, but I don't know what it is. I want to make fun of it, but it's a very big thing that people go online and play video games. And it's a streaming to watch other people play video games. But it's like a web site. It's a element play video games. But it's like a webseye.
Starting point is 00:50:25 He's a element of it. Yeah, it's like a streaming service of some kind. I don't know exactly. Like it shows Bryce in there playing Fortnite and he's like answering people's questions. So it's like a live feed of somebody playing video games. Yes, maybe. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:50:37 And like he's been doing it in a bunch and people I guess watch it and then record it. Whenever he says something interesting and golf and they report it and he said, somebody asked him something about Bryce, about Brooks. And he says something like, he's got no abs. I've got, yeah, just the body issue.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Yeah, if you see the body issue, he's got no abs. I've got abs. So I get it, we've got reported it everywhere. And then Brooks just, like, ends your, you might have to speak on, on Bryce's path because he got his life ended. By Brooks replies, you're right, I'm too short of a six pack in post a picture
Starting point is 00:51:08 of his four major championship trophy. Which is kind of funny. It's very funny. I thought it was really funny. I think good on Bryson first. Stirring it up a little bit. I was gonna say, I couldn't be more in the opposite camp of like, please show me yourself playing video games.
Starting point is 00:51:26 But good for Bryson, like the clips actually look like something that is like a great thing for a tour player to do. They seem kind of interesting. It's kind of like, he is on a podcast, just kind of just shooting the shit, which, and at least to some candidate answers, it's probably gonna stop after this.
Starting point is 00:51:41 I would imagine. I like that he's willing, whether, you know, how tongue and cheek it is, I'm sure very, but I like that he's willing, whether, you know, how tongue and cheek it is, I'm sure very, but I like that he's willing to come to poke at another premier golfer. I also like that. I'm really hoping that 2020 becomes the year of Bryson just like continually having his textbooks slammed
Starting point is 00:51:58 out of his hands in the hallway by Brooks. Well, he's beefy though. Like, it's hard to bully the big kid. Somebody tweeted that was like, this is like the, it's hard to bully the big kid. Somebody tweeted that was like, this is like the nerd beefing up to fight the big bully. It's hard to bully the big kid. Can we just say this? Literally, this is the weirdest, quite literal,
Starting point is 00:52:15 weirdest flex set. At what point are abs important to golf? Like, this whole, and I all wanna overreact and he missed the cut in Abu Dhabi, but like but this whole Bryson beefing up thing seems weird, misconstrued. I said that before the President's Cup or in the preview where it was like, I don't think this is going to happen.
Starting point is 00:52:37 We have a long way to go. But what if Bryson's game just completely falls off the map and we're looking back in 25 years? And we're like, dude, do you remember Bryson's game just like completely falls off the map and we're looking back in 25 years. And we're like, dude, do you remember Bryson? Like that guy was so good. He was so good and then just like one off season, he just wanted to put on like 40 pounds and then he like disappeared, it was nuts.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Like if that happens, like that will be, I mean that's like Anthony Kim level stuff. Does any golfer like start lifting a ton of weights and do it for an extended period of time? Shout out to the cat, I know, you can say that, but he keeps getting hurt. Rory does not do the crazy lifting anymore. As far as I know, is it like, is that how it works? I thought, don't you have to maintain? You maintain? I don't. I'm so out of my head. Are you saying guys are cycling? I can't maintain. You maintain? I can't.
Starting point is 00:53:22 I'm so out of my head. Are you saying guys are cycling? I can't. That's not what I'm saying, right? You use, that's your word. That's your word. I'm just saying like eventually they kind of start figuring out, like, oh yeah, I'm kind of hurt there, that hurts a little bit.
Starting point is 00:53:36 And a lot of Roy's lifting I think was misconstrued or misrepresented in that. He was, it was a lot of it like preventative. Like, you know, if you do this workout, you need to do this one to make sure your back is balanced, et cetera. But like, he does not. Make sure the ribs are okay. Yeah, he does not do, I don't think at least, the same squat levels, the same bench,
Starting point is 00:53:54 like all of the glamour muscles, just kind of stopped being a big focus. And like Brooks, that is obviously a focus for him. He has heard his wrist, he has heard his knee. I don't know what the source of all these things are, but I just like don't, a focus for him, he has heard his wrist, he has heard his knee, I don't know what the source of all these things are, but I just like, for golf, you know, it does forever. Don't ask me if I'm hurt, Doug.
Starting point is 00:54:10 You need to do this forever. What about Scott Stallings? That's really? Yeah, yeah. It's he like, I wouldn't put him in crazy weightlifting category, he is like fitness freak of like endurance and like burpees and all that shit, all the he's not like, I don't think he's doing it to get powerlifting.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Exactly. I don't think he's doing it to get swole. He is like a pretty swole. He is, but I don't know, that's a little different, I think. But how long has he done that for? It's been a few years. Right. Well, I think that's your point.
Starting point is 00:54:40 We got to wait and see with Bryson and. But it's like if I'm mid 2020s, I'm not like doing, like is this your plan for when you're 45 or maybe you're done playing golf by the time you're 45, but now I'm a bulky ass golfer is my, that's my long-term play. You know what I mean? Thick ass golf.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Yeah, thick with three C's. I just don't, I don't know. I don't see the golf benefit of it. It seems all, maybe it's not a golf benefit. Well, I just say this is all vanity contest between Brooks and Bryson, which is so weird to say out loud. But in all honesty, wasn't that sort of the rumor with Tiger is he would hang around with MJ and Barclay
Starting point is 00:55:19 and all the quote unquote, like real athletes. And he didn't look like a basketball player. So he wanted to like lift and look like real athlete. Yeah. I don't know. I think there's certainly a vanity aspect. I think it's almost entirely, especially. No, no, Bryson did have a point of like,
Starting point is 00:55:36 once you see that ESPN body issue, it was like, Keppka, are you like only doing curls? Is that like the only thing you're doing? He didn't even have packs. I'm gonna not weigh into. I didn't see that. Broke, broke. Oh, there's that.
Starting point is 00:55:49 I didn't read it. I didn't. My body up against Brooks himself. You can do whatever. That's fine. A couple more topics to get to. Tommy Gainey won the first Bahamas event on Wednesday this past week. What were you guys?
Starting point is 00:56:04 I think it was absurd that the telecast did not even mention the fact that he was recently arrested for soliciting a prostitute. For sure. Here. Is my microphone on? For sure, that's weird. It's so like, it's weirder to just not acknowledge
Starting point is 00:56:25 and pretend it didn't happen than to just not acknowledge and pretend it didn't happen than to just say it once. Yeah, this is what happened, very factually, you don't have to give past value judgments, right? Just acknowledge the news of what happened and then go on about it. Like especially in a sport where there's so much downtime. How much dead air is it? As soon as you're saying that,
Starting point is 00:56:45 you can picture the Dan Hicks, I don't know who it would have been, Steve Bricascar or someone, probably. Of course, Incident last week, arrested, we're still waiting for more details. I think that's really it. And honestly, it's like, the details we do have is it was Operation Nadi Santa.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Yeah, Operation Santa's Nadi Liste. Oh, that's right. Which, as we were talking about earlier this week, someone was like, you know, do you think this is worth a mention? It's like the fact that it was called Operation Santa's Nadi Liste is worth a mention alone. Like, exactly.
Starting point is 00:57:15 That's worth a mention. Let alone that fact that it was actually him. And isn't it, it's like without that context. Like, I think it's a disservice to the viewers who, one, you're kind of treating them like they're dumb, right? Like everybody knows what happened, you know? And to not acknowledge it is really, like I said, bizarre. But I think second, it's to be able to talk about,
Starting point is 00:57:41 you know, being able to win on the corn fairy tour, like month or month and a half after being arrested and like any guy has cars that week. Yeah, what happened? Like, like the compartmentalization or the mental, you know, to be able to do that is kind of impressive. Like, and I feel like, you know, by feeling to put the performance in that context, it misses on a lot of key aspects of it. Honestly, one of the more embarrassing things to get in trouble, have a controversy be surrounding you.
Starting point is 00:58:16 I mean, so what I think I need to do a better job of, or just carry on living my life, probably, is more likely, but like paying more attention to other sports, how they handle, like, I couldn't tell you off top, I had like how the Tyree Kill situation has been handled by the networks that are, you know, talking about the NFL and things like, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:35 other controversial things in sports, how do the other leagues handle it? Cause this is a tour thing. This isn't like golf channel deciding, well, we need to protect Tommy Gainey, like this is for sure, and I can't say for certainty, but like definitely the tour being like, I can't say for sure, but for sure.
Starting point is 00:58:52 It's gotta be, it's coming from the tour of like the messaging that they're taking. Yeah, I would think golf channel, like it would even, you know, not that they're looking for everything salacious, but you know, it almost makes their product better, right? You know, if you've got that layer. So yeah, it's got to be coming from elsewhere.
Starting point is 00:59:10 I mean, to your point, the other broadcast, like it's, I feel like they talk about it. And it's not something where like six months from now, you don't have to keep talking about it, but I don't know, correct me if I'm wrong. I feel like this is probably the first broadcast of the Corn Fairy Tour since that happened. And with him winning,
Starting point is 00:59:32 it'd be one thing if he was tied for 40th, right, you probably don't have to go out of your way. Let's cut over to Tommy Gainey here, just finishing up to 75th. Just to let you talk about it. Well, it'd be, yeah, I mean, I can just, I feel like it'd be the front page of like every columnist. If the NFL like failed to disclose, hey, somebody got arrested, you know, how did last week,
Starting point is 00:59:55 now this week they just didn't even mention it. How did CBS do 2010 masters with Tiger? I mean, they like, they spell out exactly what happened. I mean, that's a, I mean, I know they spell out exactly what happened. I mean, that's a. I mean, I know they taught they imagine they were under the old the screws, right? But was it the old press conference? I feel like the old press conference kind of like got it out of the way. Yeah. We're not they probably like I think one more minute time once Mr. Paine had spoken his piece everybody was like surely there's nothing left to say. I feel like he covered it for all of us.
Starting point is 01:00:25 I don't remember specifically, but that'd be my guess. Yeah, so that'd be interesting to look back on. But anyways, we're not dumb. Viewers aren't that dumb. It's not an internet. It's the class act, so it's a completely y-washing of. It's like all personality, good or bad. It's not reflective of modern media and technology
Starting point is 01:00:45 to think that you can hide that or just not mention it. Because that is now gonna be the story. This made awful announcing, like people are gonna highlight the fact that you didn't mention it. And if you mention it, they probably would have celebrated it. But anyways, one other controversial thing related to the tour this week, a source,
Starting point is 01:01:00 I believe it was Golf Digest Australia, was the source on the story that there was an official warning given to Cam Smith not to talk about Patrick Reed, or I don't know what the official warning is, probably should have the article up, but it was essentially like, don't call him a cheater. You are no longer allowed to comment on this, do not comment further on it, or you will be fined, or maybe he already was fined. Basically, there was messaging to Cam Smith as in get yourself in line regarding your commenting
Starting point is 01:01:26 on Patrick Reed. Which a warning would lead you to believe he had not been fine, but there's that. Yeah, yes. Any further comments would result in a fine, I believe, as well as it was. Yeah, which, on his face is like ludicrous, of course. But digging a little deeper.
Starting point is 01:01:45 It is like consistent. I know you're probably gonna bring up the Joel Damon situation, but like it's in the bylaws, many of which are stupid about like you are not allowed to disparage another player. It's in your quote unquote, you know, contract. I don't know if it's that explicit, but that's conduct unbecoming to publicly say
Starting point is 01:02:03 anything bad about another player. So while it's very, very, very, like seems very, very, very dumb from a fan perspective, like any is dumb, I suppose that that would be why is because like they have to stay consistent with what's written down now. The next logical jump would be like take that out. That doesn't have to be written down. You could change it if you want, but then you got to get class X. Then you got to get players to buy in, like, ratifying a change to the rules, which are all written by them, essentially. It's like a whole, I don't know. It's one of those things that seems very simple and awful and stupid and is a little lessso or more so depending on your perspective, the more you look into it, I think. I think yet your point basically,
Starting point is 01:02:46 and I agree with it in the like, hey, like five of the letter of the law, like they have to do that. Like that's the laws they've made out. And I think that's the point. It's like, God, that's stupid. Like, but at the same time, it does make sense. Like you can't, it's,
Starting point is 01:02:59 we are the class X tour is what they're trying to say. We have sponsors to uphold. We have all this, like we are gonna do all we can to clean your image and do all this so we can get sponsorship dollars. So yeah, you can't say disparaging things about other players. I wonder what the letter of the law is on that. Like, it's a...
Starting point is 01:03:19 Spins and book is like. I know, but it's cool. So Joel Damon did talk about this on the podcast. When we were at Colonial this past year about the Sun King incident about, you was asked not to speak on any further. He used this because he did use the C word that King had cheated. He said that in its wheat. He learned the hard way that that was not the word that you should use in that scenario
Starting point is 01:03:38 where he attracts a lot of attention. If you do, even if you do believe that, and he was, uh, the rule is that you cannot, uh, cannot say disparaging things about a player. So I just commented as like, man, the tour seems very fit to die on this hill of, we are going to protect Patrick Reed's integrity above all of the things out here. And if that's true, then like, basically, Cam Smith got is getting like more punishment out of the scenario than Patrick Reed. Do you want me to read what's in the handbook?
Starting point is 01:04:08 Oh my gosh, I wouldn't love it. So this is the PJ Torch champions handbook that was published, I don't know, it just came up in a Google search, but I'm sure the PJ Torch one is very similar, if not exactly the same. This is Appendix F, Randy. You're keeping the track.
Starting point is 01:04:23 It's just following along. In regards to public comments and public attacks. The favorable public reputation of PGA Tour Champions, its players, its tournaments are valuable assets and create tangible benefits for all PGA Tour Champions members. Accordingly, it is an obligation of membership to refrain from making comments that unreasonably attack or disparage others, including but are not limited to tournaments, sponsors, fellow players and members, and or the PGA tour. Speech that could be reasonably viewed
Starting point is 01:04:50 as hateful, abusive, obscene, and or divisive is expressly prohibited. God, that's... Do you know what the keyword in that whole thing you read was? Hateful? No, no, no. No, that wasn't the word I picked out. What?
Starting point is 01:05:04 Unreasonable. And I think that becomes a question was, were Cam Smith's comments unreasonable? You know, I think that's where the rub of it lies. The next, the next, depending on what's about worthless checks, which is also, which is also kind of second, if there's any players out there, which I would think, they would have put that in at unless some players were writing bad checks. So maybe we did know that.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Or this as it develops. Well, did the tour officially, and the guessing the answers know, like comment to say that read did not cheat. Is that point in that? With their ruling. Yes, like I think if he, if I don't think it's an understanding,
Starting point is 01:05:44 like if, well, it kind of is though, right? Like if he would have cheated, they would have de-cued him, right? Like if they had deemed it to be cheating, he would have been de-cued. Is that, is that how the rule would have been, I don't know the other fact. I'm sure rules, Twitter will get all over it if not, but I think that was Reid's whole thing, right? Like that was the whole cease and desist letter.
Starting point is 01:06:01 That was, he got penalized. Everything was like, if he had cheated, like he would have been kicked out of the tournament. But like the tour clearly thought that he didn't cheat, and that's why he was assessed the two-stroke penalty. Because it was no intent, no collusion, total exoneration. So yeah, I wonder, that's a really good point, Randy, of like how they get to the point
Starting point is 01:06:18 where it sets unreasonable that you could come to that conclusion. When I don't wanna say the majority of the general public, but I would guess if we ran a poll on whether it's a simple question, do you think Patrick Reed cheated in the Bahamas? I think it would come back. I'm sure the Twitter would clearly look at both sides. Really, really give it a measured. Which I feel like now I'm going so far out of my way to try to understand the non cheating. Like the side that's like, no, he didn't cheat, that I've confused myself into,
Starting point is 01:06:46 I clearly think that he did. Lanny, the conversation with Lanny Watkins, I think was quite a surprise. I think I got a couple of flags. So she said she was ready to light everybody else on fire. I caught a little flag for that on Twitter, and I don't, I don't love how that played out. It was not.
Starting point is 01:07:03 It was literally the Macatee moment. Yeah, really. Yeah. Yeah, well, I'd both popped out of my wrist. I just popped back in. I had to make a decision in the moment to be like, okay, am I going to turn this interview into a debate? I was like, my opinion on that has been very clearly stated.
Starting point is 01:07:19 And I tried to make my point back to him and he interrupted me and continued with what his point was going to be. And I decided in that moment, he's him and he interrupted me and continued with what his point was gonna be. And I decided in that moment, he's not gonna change his mind on this. The goal of this interview was not to get in and debate with him and I did not want him to shut down for the rest of the interview.
Starting point is 01:07:33 So I decided to move on. It was tough to check your ego in some of the situations especially because I was just not prepared for that was a very, very surprising take on his part from my perspective. But the rest of the interview was fantastic of course It seems to be the part that people have commented on the most and if you haven't listened that podcast episode I would highly recommend it but I think I
Starting point is 01:07:53 the only like One good and analog To this whole situation I think is like what happened with Simon Dyson over on the Euro tour for like, you know, what could the PGA tour have done, right? And the Euro tour initially banned them for three months, right? Two months. Okay. But then like kind of got appealed. And at the end of the day, they said because there was no, it was not quote, a premeditated
Starting point is 01:08:22 act of cheating. It was the first degree. Essentially they suspended. It was a suspended sentence almost where he was on probation. And as long as he didn't do anything bad over 18 months, then he wouldn't receive his two month ban. But there's strong language and you got fined and I feel like people felt at least that there, there was let me ask you guys something done
Starting point is 01:08:48 Let me ask guys this if after the read thing and I know it's like the eighth straight podcast We talked about read but it's important a promise After the read thing if the tour says hey this incident happened we're gonna look into this and like spent a couple days And then came back a couple days later. I was like you know what, we've performed this, you know, blah, blah, blah, this, then these procedures, they probably wouldn't be that forthcoming. But anyways, we've determined there'll be no further penalty on read and they've determined that, you know, the two-shot penalty was a appropriate decision. Would you think of this situation any differently?
Starting point is 01:09:18 I don't think so. No, I don't. I mean, I think everybody would have just spun themselves into a tizzy even more over those two days. Like, oh, the tour is looking for ways to cover it up or the tour is looking for ways to whitewash it or ever. Would you personally felt differently about the process? No, I don't think so. I mean, I think it's like, it's so clear.
Starting point is 01:09:38 You watch the video once, right? Twice, three times, whatever. And you hear what? Twice, three times a lady. And you hear what? Once twice, three times a lady. Exactly. Shout out to Tom Jones. Like, you watch it. It's pretty freaking clear.
Starting point is 01:09:50 Like, what you think after the first, second or third time, you watch it, you talk to Patrick, you hear what he thinks and like, they figured out in the scoring trailer, right? I don't know how, taking more time, like I don't know what new shit is gonna come to light. It just looked like sluggish quote. Like sluggish. This priority there was clearly making it go away
Starting point is 01:10:07 as fast as possible and like him. But I think, like that, that's the part that I think is what rubbed people down the way. I don't think it was like, whoa, we didn't even think about this. Like they didn't even, they didn't even consider the intent of it or. I see what you're saying. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:10:20 Yeah, I wonder. I wonder if Sat and thought it, it would have taken my level of angst about it from like 99% to like 80%. I would still disagree with the decision, but at least been like, okay, they involved this person, this person, if it was just sluggier out there, deciding this on the spot, which I, that's bad. I guess I'll say like, I don't know or we didn't know that it wasn't, that wasn't the case. Like they very well might have had that conversation. I don't think it was just sluggier like, well, and it's really nilly.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Like they talked about it after the round. Well, what adds to it is sluggier, the previous comments from sluggier about, and the one- Well, and the gentleman thing was not good. And not wanting to find people. Not wanting to find people, because he was taking food off their table.
Starting point is 01:10:59 And then Patrick, you know, took like the utmost gentleman, it's just like, yeah. The two are kind of lost through many things, I think, like the two are lost better for the doubt in this process. Yeah. I think overall, this thing with Cam Smith is like just another strike to the ridiculousness
Starting point is 01:11:18 of the initial decision. I think, but in reality, this is what they had to do related to the situation. And that's what that's what I was gonna get is, I think the tour finds itself in kind of a tough spot in a couple different things where there are so many different teams and so many different initiatives and goals of the tour that you have to by definition
Starting point is 01:11:38 like try to have it both ways a lot. And I think on a situation like this, like you can't have it both ways. I know you wanna create more of an entertainment product and maybe create some more friction and all of those things, but there are probably a lot of times where you literally can't do that because you're run by the players and that's the structure. And sometimes you're just the cops, man, and the cops can't be the cool guys. Sometimes that's just the way it goes.
Starting point is 01:12:03 Yeah. I've got to know we're beating it, but it's we're an hour 10 and it's we're everything's beaten at this point. Did I think what plays apart in this honestly is like read showing no contrition. Yeah. For sure at all. Like had he just come out and be like, God, that looks really bad. I apologize.
Starting point is 01:12:21 I wasn't intending to do that. I realize how it looks. I'm so sorry. Like then it's like, okay, you can kind of move on. I apologize, I wasn't intending to do that, I realized how it looks, I'm so sorry, then it's like okay, you can kind of move on. I mean this very sincerely, does he have an agent? He has had many, I don't know, who or if he does a current one. Because he seems like he makes decisions
Starting point is 01:12:35 like someone who has no adult in the room. I think he used the wrong pronoun with that, is he makes decisions. I don't think he's, I don't think it's the he in that relationship that's making the best situation. Well,'t think he's probably true. I don't think it's the he and that relationship that's making the best situation. Well, I will say, and it's a good transition into the next topic here.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Shout out to the management. The, to that point of the remorse with it. And that I hit a T-shot at the winner series of, and it hammock beach here at the FSGA event that I happen to play at. But hit a T-shot that, you know, there's these weird humps and bumps in the fairway. And a lot of spots in these fairways,
Starting point is 01:13:07 the ball would just stop rolling once it got in a divot, which sucked. And I hit a ball on one of these holes and it stopped on the side of a divot, but there was sand in the divot, and it's like overflowing the divot. It was about a inch high. It was about an inch high.
Starting point is 01:13:23 And it wasn't blocking my path to the ball like it was, Patrick Rebert, it was like to the right of my ball. And my instinct was to bend down and like brush the sand away. And because of this incident, I was like, oh wait, actually, like I wonder if that's like considered part of my line of play. Like could I, is that improving my lie
Starting point is 01:13:39 is sand a loose impediment in this situation? And I like asked my playing partner and two of them were like, oh no, you can move it. And one of them was kind of like, ah, I don't know if you could. But if it wanted for this incident, I would have gone right up and done it. Like I would have just,
Starting point is 01:13:51 and not thought anything of it. And I think to your point of like showing no remorse, is he could have said, if this was the case of like, honestly, I moved the sand away and I didn't even think about it. I see it now. And like it, it, it, it definitely was a penalty. I don't know what happened. I blacked, I didn't know the rule. I, I just totally messed that up. And he didn't even think about it. I see it now and like it, it definitely was a penalty.
Starting point is 01:14:05 I don't know what happened. I blacked, I didn't know the rule. I just totally messed that up. And he didn't do that. And I think if it was any other player, that would have been the case. So. Yeah, he doesn't strike me as the kind of person
Starting point is 01:14:14 who makes a lot of mistakes. No, he doesn't. So before we move on, do you want to know what the offense is for writing a bad check? Sure. I've been curious, this whole time. 200 bucks. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:14:25 Oh, I picked him. Maybe just try to go for it. That's good to say. Just roll the dice. First offense is $200. Second offense, $200 fine and loss of check, crashing privileges. Shout out to the patch greedy,
Starting point is 01:14:36 velocity privileges. Wait, is the chimneys who are like a bank? What? This is if you're like, if you're paying your entry fees with checks. Yeah. So someone was been writing shit checks and they had to put this in. Third offense, $500 fine. Laws of check, caching privileges for one year. repeated instances of the issuance of worthless checks by a player shall be grounds for suspension or
Starting point is 01:14:55 permanent disbarment from tournament play. Jimmy Stewart should only accept entries in Bitcoin. Make those like those elderly folks. Give me the shit on the elderly. Take this out. No, I'm f- I think. Well slow, dangers by the way.
Starting point is 01:15:11 I think direct sales service. I think the record will prove I'm for the elderly. All right, now I feel comfortable with this being the very, we're done talking professional golf. If you want to hang up and be done, then you are more than welcome to. I didn't want to leave with this. Does that go for us as well?
Starting point is 01:15:25 Yeah. Yeah. Damn it. A lot of people were asking for a shot-by-shot recap of my tournament. Many of you have been asking about this. No, people were asking if we need to have the first. We need to have the first full influencer.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Many of you been asking me about my Skidgeg Regimen. So I just wanted to lay it all out in this sponsored post with affiliate links. A lot of people were commenting on the fact that I wanna go to lay it all out in the sponsored post with affiliate links. A lot of people were commenting on the fact that I want to go through it. Congratulations. Well, thank you. Well, to that point, if you're saying it's huge, I do want to take it down a notch, because it was not that huge.
Starting point is 01:15:57 First of all, at least. Well, what have been worst if you would have lost? It would have. So that's what I wanted to get to. This is my first golf tournament I've played since I was in high school. There's an FSGA winter series. Not a lot of the events come as far north. The floor is a very big state.
Starting point is 01:16:11 There's one about an hour away. I went down to play it. As far as the FSGA doesn't have a wrap round season. It is. It's the wrap round season. But I thought they did away with that kind of nomenclature. The retarded nomenclature. The fall series, winter series.
Starting point is 01:16:24 I can't keep track of that. Just all one season. But it's kind of, there's like a FedEx cup race in it. I wish I didn't know it was a thing. But now everybody seems to be coming around on the FedEx cup now that, put a couple, with a couple of points under the kids' nose over there.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Well, so I was, I was Andrew Langerget, 500. I was supposed to be paired with Paul Tassori, who is of course the Cadi of Web Simpson. Who is a coward, did he? Yeah. I'm watching the broadcast in the Sony Open on Sunday nights, like almost midnight,
Starting point is 01:16:53 and he's obviously counting for Web, but I'm like, I don't think he's gonna make it in time. And one other guy that was supposed to be a very good player, he's won two of these events this fall, was supposed to be in my group as well. And he, I was supposed to ride in the car with them and I walk up to like my guy I'm riding with. I'm like, hey, you must be so-and-so.
Starting point is 01:17:10 He's like, no, I'm an alternate. I just got added into the field. I'm so-and-so. Got the call this morning. This guy proceeded to be the worst pot. This is set the scene of what kind of a copter him in this was. He runs a putt by the hole on the
Starting point is 01:17:26 first green at least eight feet. I'll finish. Which is sick in an alpha move. A very alpha move. I did not make it. Did not make the putt and was his day was not going very well. It eventually ends up putting with a hybrid and just it won't be one of my pupils. He hit a putting with a hybrid and just at one point. Shout out to Rainy, which is sick. Yeah, he might be one of my pupils. He hit a green on a part three and made six because like you got up to the hole and just like, he missed it and then reached across the hole,
Starting point is 01:17:52 tapped it back, missed it. Meanwhile, we're just like standing around, are you guys playing games? Or do you use the whole everything out? I had to hold everything out. Like eventually, the proper goal. The guy that was scoring for him is just like writing down school, he's playing out of turn
Starting point is 01:18:04 and got mad at another guy in the group for walking during his putt. That sounds like a complete alpha. And I had to write him to our Thursday game. He's in the Thursday game now, but I had to ride in the car with him. And like he's like making jokes about it and like staring at me, waiting for me to laugh and I'm just like fuming. I'm I cannot believe that I'm having to deal with this because I was actually having a pretty
Starting point is 01:18:23 good round. But anyway, so it's not like we write. I cannot believe that I'm having to deal with this because I was actually having a pretty good round, blah, blah. Anyway, so it's not, like, first of all, the shotgun's starting cards. It's starting to mid, so. And they're missing two of the top players in the field. But I did look around that Monday morning, and I was like, you know what,
Starting point is 01:18:36 does that affect your world ranking points? A little way that to do it. I don't know how many of you guys are not showing up. I don't get as many. Well, I'm fifth now in the standings, as mentioned, by Coway, but I learned the winner of the winner series gets in the Florida Am and the Florida mid-amp. That's sick. So now I'm on my way. I'm gonna make a push. I'm gonna make a push. I'm gonna play one more event in the beginning of February, at least.
Starting point is 01:18:54 And I don't think I'm gonna get pracks around in at that one, so it might be kind of winging it. But Man, it was fun. I'm gonna try to get more involved in competitive golf this year, and I I'm going to try to get more involved in competitive golf this year. And I wanted, I've all played three qualifiers last year. I did the USM, US Mid-Am, and the four ball. And qualifiers just kind of shoot from the hip, trying to make birdies, like, whatever, three, four guys out of a field of 85 make it. This was like, no, no, like, your score is going to be posted and you like, try to compete in the tournament.
Starting point is 01:19:21 I just wanted to simulate nerves. I needed like some reps of nerves and I felt that. I guess as much as the tournament was not a joke, but it was kind of fun, light-hearted, like riding in carts and whatnot. It's not super strict, super, like, big pressure. Did you get beer at the turn? You could have.
Starting point is 01:19:36 You definitely could have. But like I felt the nerves at least. And you know, there were some moments where things could have gone really, really bad. I mean, I had to make a 15 footer for, the only put I made over 10 feet all a week was a 15 footer for double on like the sixth hole of the tournament. And I was not over par for a long after that. Like, it saved my round and it was, it was fun. I shot two rounds of even par, just annihilated the par-fives. DJ came out for the final round.
Starting point is 01:20:00 I believe he called my putting it a disgrace is what the tournament did. The Ricky of the group made sure to be out there. I was. Yeah. Winning. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. No, I was out there as a journalist actually for your information documenting for future generations. More to come on that. But yeah, I know it was I thought I was an inspiring performance. You know, you know, shit could have got a little squirrely on the drive. We'll par four. You left one in the bunker. bad lie.
Starting point is 01:20:25 Top bounce on that one. That turned 30. Yeah, could have got out of control, but played the last three and one under. Just, you know, got it, got it done. I would love to give a huge shout out to Steve, the guy who won the Super Seniors Division, complete menace.
Starting point is 01:20:40 Steve Sponder is like, yeah, he's legend in the undergolfs. Legend in the Amdor Goss Goss circle says Can you give it to him or a literature? Yeah, I wanted to talk to him about possibly becoming a miscellaneous hater I don't know if you've told the people about that program. Just the refuge kind of like our young haters program Yeah, I think one of our goals this year is to get a miscellaneous hitter program off up up and going and Just anyone out in the world who we think embodies the ethos. Exactly. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:21:07 I think we tempt them with maybe a small annuity of some sort and some free merchandise. See if they'll sign up. So I have a question. Did they keep the pairings between the age divisions or did they kind of cross-pollinate at all? It was between, like, you did not cross-pollinate. You were with your, okay.
Starting point is 01:21:24 So you didn't play with any like the super seniors did not Did I think that would be fun I could it would be it would be fun I mean shoot shoot two under par rounds on that like I know there's a joke in that in that maybe it was serious that I didn't When the senior was did they play that was my other question they play the same tease no they were okay a couple hundred yards the same to you. No, they were okay. A couple hundred yards. 438. But no, I was great to succeed and to complete the task at hand. I did. Anytime you get a victory, it's just, you know, it's really special. I did just get a sense. I've never won a golf tournament my whole life. I'd never have. And so like, playing with a lead was different. And I think my lead was six or seven at one point, but it got all the way down to three
Starting point is 01:22:07 with three holes left. And- Shout out to Marco Dawson for the other. Yeah, Ken Dawson came trying to run me down. He's a closer guy. Guy in the group ahead, birdie, three of the last five holes to get within, to finish second, to get within four of me. But I was feeling, feeling the pressure there coming down.
Starting point is 01:22:23 And to actually, when the pressure was on the most, I executed, which was, it felt good. It felt really rewarding. You rocked him. You rocked him, baby. Yeah, so like, it's a building block, right? For sure. Yeah, it's not an elite amateur tournament by any means,
Starting point is 01:22:37 but now I feel like, but I also didn't feel like I played my best golf. I feel like I can definitely, definitely, play better than that. And you won with your she-game. I'm gonna get it. I played my best golf. I feel like I can definitely, definitely play better than that. And you won with your C-game. I'm pretty much good. I'm pretty much good. I'm pretty much good.
Starting point is 01:22:50 Stay woke, Steve. And co. Well, I also wonder how often I can birdie all eight par-fives that I played, which was pretty. Probably not often. But the par-fives, I had three wooden to six of those eight par-fives.
Starting point is 01:23:00 Like they were not jokes of no- Oh, you hit them. I made that happen. So, yeah. If I come defending myself, if I come, I'm defending myself. I don't know. Have you updated your Wikipedia page? I figured they'd turn me into do that automatically. But yeah, it's fun.
Starting point is 01:23:14 Fun to get some reps and look forward to doing more of it. So try to get in there, try to get in the mid-Amp. Thanks, you're always gracious with your time. You have, of course. Thanks for letting us do. You guys have to go. I can talk about it for a while. Second hole, just worst worse than the right.
Starting point is 01:23:29 What did they repair? Did you have to play with your boy both rounds? And when I turned my scorecard head for Dave, I got I kind of got to know the FSD officials and I was like, as soon as I turned my card and I was like, Hey, are we repairing for two next time? And then one of the other guys I played with just started cracking up, he's like, what, you don't want wanna play with us again? I asked him when I got there for day two
Starting point is 01:23:50 as I got as a shotgun start again. He's like, yeah, I was like, well, what the hell are you going? What? I'm in the lead. I'm off one, dog. Shout out to the F-SG. Yeah, it was a cool, it was legitimately cool. You were like, oh, I want to play.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Oh, yeah, that was the thing. That was not to do a big commercial for your local state golf association, but yeah, it was like, I thought it was a, like a hyper competitive thing, there was dudes out there shooting like 95 and like, what was sick was the mid-AM. There was what, 25 guys or something in the mid-A-M division.
Starting point is 01:24:26 So they split them after day one into two flights. Into two flights. And then the guy who won the second flight got money. Oh, that's cool. So I was like, any gift card, or a gift card, sorry. And it put he shot like, McDonald's. It was like 84, 84 or something like that. Which he was like, I could do that.
Starting point is 01:24:41 I played with the mid-A-M in the second flight of, yeah, how do you get into the tournament? You just sign up. You just sign up. 10 handicap or lower. Yeah, no, I could do that. I played with the one. I could wait a second flight of, yeah, how do you get into the tournament? You just signed up. You just signed up. Ten handicap or lower? Yeah, I know. Let's go play. Like seriously, it would make a mockery of it though
Starting point is 01:24:52 if we rolled out there. It's true. Yeah, we don't want to, as well. Yeah, I've been a massive con. I've been a massive con. I've been a massive week beat you. So I don't want us there embarrassing. I would love, like DJ's reaction was like, I want to go play in one of these and we should,
Starting point is 01:25:07 I try to get you guys to play a one day event there down in Orlando, but those are a little different from what I hear. It's just tough for my schedule. The way I said, I try to peak for the later. It would be for the exact reason of, you know, everybody says there's golf and tournament golf. I had never in my life have I played tournament. I know, it would be legitimately just for that reason.
Starting point is 01:25:25 You'd be a good fit for it. It would be fun to just like cut 18 holes. I hit, Sunday we played our Saturday we played. You kind of fucked it up on 17. I did, I didn't even, I was, so I was kind of upset, but I told him we were playing real golf. Real real golf today. Real veggie.
Starting point is 01:25:41 But no, it, like having to mark like one foot puts because when you're in a force and it's you're in somebody don't know if it's that bad. I don't know if it's that bad. I don't know if it's that bad. I don't know if it's that bad. I don't know if it's that bad. I don't know if it's that bad. I don't know if it's that bad. I don't know if it's that bad. I don't know if it's that bad. I don't know if it's that bad. I don't know if it's that bad.
Starting point is 01:25:51 I don't know if it's that bad. I don't know if it's that bad. I don't know if it's that bad. I don't know if it's that bad. I don't know if it's that bad. I don't know if it's that bad. I don't know if it's that bad. I don't know if it's that bad.
Starting point is 01:25:59 I don't know if it's that bad. I don't know if it's that bad. I don't know if it's that bad. I don't know if it's that bad. I don't know if it's that bad. I don't know if it's that bad. I don't know if it's that bad. I don't know if it's that bad. I don't know if it's that bad. I purpose. And so it did that on me. He, I think they gave him equitable stroke of strokes because he had 92 in day one, which I did not see. But highest he could have shot.
Starting point is 01:26:12 Highest to go shot. All right, we're gonna wrap it that. This was sweet. I might have invited him on the trap draw. He should. That would be so you can put you in that type. Would you care to comment? Care to react?
Starting point is 01:26:21 I didn't even mention the fact that he narrated every single shot like every single one more He talked more than like Paul A. Zinger talked on a Sunday So all right, we're gonna wrap it that this was fun. Um, have a great week everyone We'll have we're gonna do our Caroline is recap podcast is gonna come later this week And we'll be recording a few apps down with the PGA show this week. We'll be spending some time on there So cheers this week, we'll be spending some time in there. So, cheers. Cheers. Uh-oh. Give it a big thumbs up. Be the right club today.
Starting point is 01:26:50 Yes. That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Better than most.

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