No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 29: Shane Bacon

Episode Date: January 29, 2016

I challenged BFF of the podcast Shane Bacon of Fox Sports to a duel regarding the “Big 4” debate, and he rose to the occasion. We talked about Fowler, all of the other big guns,... The post NLU Podcast, Episode 29: Shane Bacon appeared first on No Laying Up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! Alright ladies and gentlemen welcome back to the No Lang Up podcast. We have to settle some beef today because my arch enemy Mr. Shane Bacon from Fox Sports and I have chosen two sides of a very political and difficult and important topic. And there's just its debate season and there's no other way to do this than to just hash it out.

Are you ready, Shane? I am ready. I am fired up. Let's do it. The narrative, of course, that we're going to beat to death here, is the Shane wrote a piece, recently for Fox Sports.com. He does a lot of fine work over there. And it was introducing Mr. a young Ricky Fowler to golf's big four. I'm a little sick of the narrative already to begin with, but I will let Shane have the floor.

And I want to hear your best cases to why you're signing off on golf's era of the big four. Well, I mean, first of all, you know me well enough to wear. I'm not really like a sensational type of person to write something to like kind of like get eyeballs and pull people in. I mean, it's more, my point was more that the resume rick's put forward since he started actually winning and that goes back to the players championship and then the way he played the majors in 14, I think that he has a way about him where he can go on stretch as the domination. And I think that was kind of my point. I mean he was in obviously played extremely well in the majors in 14 was in everyone of them really.

And then last year, got over the hump really in the players championship. And from there, we saw a different rookie valor. And, you know, it was funny going into it to last week. He wasn't part of the conversation. I mean, he's paired with a Rory and Jordan speed. And of course, that's the big conversation of those two. And is this going to be the battle of the next year? Or are we finally healthy?

Is that what we're going to finally see? And to me, Ricky stepping up and weighing that just goes, it's another feather in his campus. Since that he's stepping up and winning big, big, big time events. And I kind of went on a little bit of a tangent about, we have major championships, which seems to be what we really rate players on at this point. But the way golf tournaments are scheduled now and the big, big time events on both the

PGA tour and your BN tours, you're playing basically the same about people. I mean, when you win the player's championship, it's not like you're not facing the exact same field you would if the US Open or at British Open. So he's winning these events against the best in the world, and he field you would at a US Open or at British Open. So he's winning these events against the best in the world and he's winning them at a similar rate as the three ahead of him in the ranking. So my point is simply the way he's played since he finally started winning is equal to the other guys that are ahead of him in the rankings. And while he doesn't have a major on his resume and I totally get that that seems to be

the glaring issue. Trust me, everybody on Twitter, they can play about it. That's the one thing they went to was no major, no major, no major, no major. My point was just if you look at what he's done, the body of what he's done, since you won the players' championship, he's equal to those guys in my opinion and he's very, very close to getting over that major out. But I think when he does, then everybody will finally say, okay, now we have a big board. I'm just trying to get a little ahead of that.

Okay, I mean, I won't necessarily disagree with anything you said there. I did find most interesting in what you said. I've always kind of wondered this and never really talked about it, because I liked the way the major set up. I just think that's the most fun thing in golf, but it is kind of arbitrary that we just decided

that these four tournaments are called majors, isn't it? Well, I mean, absolutely, and I'm working on a piece probably in a run, maybe the week before the Masters for Box Sports, and I'm just kind of diving into this idea because I think so many times it is such a focus. I was listening to PTI last week. We were talking about Tiger Noodle. Excuse me, it wasn't PTI. I was Bill Simmons podcast and they were talking about Tiger Woods against Federer and Bill Simmons who obviously, you know, one of the better sports personalities out there right now. But not necessarily a golf guy. He made a point about Tiger. It said,

you know, he hasn't been anything since O. And the problem with that theory and that thought is, well, he hasn't won a major since O.A. But he has been number one of the world and one 5PG to Orbitz and one season. And again, these aren't pushover events. I mean, Tiger only played, you know, in the best of the best when he was in his prime. And I think that it's easy to just go off over the fact that winning a big event, winning the players, you know, like Tiger in the 13 or winning a WGC event, or winning a memorial or winning a FedEx Cup playoff. I mean, that's a big deal. I mean, you're playing the best in the world who are just as hungry to win that, as they are to win a major. It's just,

you know, I mean, there's history behind all four of the majors. I just think it's funny that that's really the only thing we focus on when we look at the way a player is looked at is these four events where we've made golf a lot bigger than that in my opinion. I think winning one of these other big events is just as important and just as tough. I think like I'm buying a theory I do think that this is not a hot take at all that the pressure of those perceived majors so-called majors is obviously much greater than the other events in the stigma that comes with it i think and change the way guys performed on the stretch of the look at a guy like Sergio who's

what i'll set is mindset and talks about how different is mindset is in majors and how he doesn't think he can win one yet he has no problem lining up and winning the players championship, which is a stronger field than like the US Open or even British Open has. So there is that different level pressure, but I just hate that Ricky Fowler is 27 years old and we're talking about him not having a major. Like as if he's supposed to have one by the time he's 27. Absolutely. And you're totally right.

And that's the one thing that throws my theory a little off of is these players think that too. And I think it's just the mentality of, again, it's the build-up of winning a major has changed their mentality too. So when they get to those events, they know how important they are. You know, when you get to the PJ Championship, you know if you don't win that, you go one day along, long, long, whatever break before you get to those events, they know how important they are. You know, when you get to the PJ Championship, you know if you don't win that, you go one day along, long, long, or break before you get to the next major. And it's really your last chance. But what's funny is, the weird thing about major season is,

three of the four major seasons, you can peak in June, middle of June. And if your game peaks then, you've got a chance to win one of three. I mean, that's the time you want your game peaks in, you've got a chance to win one of three. You know, I mean, that's the time you want your game to hit it stride. And if it does it, you don't have a chance to win 75% of the major for that year. And I mean, that's what's kind of crazy. I just, I almost wish there was a little bit more space between them. I wish the PJ Jammature was like an October, so they weren't just stacked, you know, one-on-one on one. So a guy like Rory last year and really, you know, Jason Day at the end of the year as well, you know, if something starts clicking and they've got a chance to run off with them and

somebody like Ricky, you know, he wanted the players, he wanted the Scott, as you know, he wanted a FedEx cup of in and now he's won this and you know, he spaced his game out throughout the year to really, uh, went on any kind of surface, really on any con. And I think that's been really, really impressive because a lot of the time, you know, some of the best American players don't have games that travel as well as some of the international players, not the Gricky's Game does travel though. Yeah, I think the, this is going off of a different danger by the BGH Tour really missed a great opportunity this year to move the BGA championship to the winter. How awesome would it be if it was coming up in a couple weeks where, I mean, instead of

going British Open, Canadian Open, DGA Championship, there's gonna be two majors in three weeks this year because the Olympics, I guess we already have the rider coming up in the fall. This would have been a great way to space the majors out this year. It's just slide the PGA championship up into early months. I don't know if they have a deal, some kind of deal with Augusta, where Augusta is guaranteed the first major every year, but is that even a possibility? Do you know? I mean, I'm not sure about this, guys, I'm not assuming you're probably right on. There's probably a lot of obligations to certain majors where you can't do that or you can't put, you can't swim maybe a major like you can in other event because we have seen other events, you know,

even a player championship really moves, um, you know, different in the scheduling, but, you know, it's 45 days and three majors are going to be playing 45 days. I mean, that's crazy to think, you know, that that's a month and a half, you're going to get all three, kind of pushed together. I mean, on top of that right after you've got to go play the Olympics. I mean, it's going to be a hectic, hectic season. And you're already seeing, I mean, sure to speak already coming out and saying he's tired. You could put me in and we're not even to really the West Coast Swink get it going yet. And I mean, he's obviously traveling around because he's getting some some appearances and again,

obviously taking advantage of all that stuff But it's gonna be a crazy season already and you've already got the number one of the world saying he's already exhausted from it So yeah, it would be cool if the many of the PGA was a different time and maybe gave people a little chance to maybe go Refine something that was working You know the schedule is what it is and I'll be interested to see if somebody's gated, if one of these three or four or five every minute you want to say you're the best of the world right now, if one of those guys game really clicks, when they get to open, there could be a serious run where Rory wins the US Open and PGA or Jason Day wins

both open, I can see it happening because there's so much to get. No, I think Jay's run that he had through from like the late summer basically is when sticks out of my mind if somebody goes on a run like that, then yeah, you can easily run off several of these, but not enough to what you said about speed and this maybe just the inherent speed defender in me. It's like, I say this ball pretty much every story that we're making too big of a deal out of it, but I mean, this was just like a post-round interview right that he mentioned I used tired from traveling a lot of what what is this that big a deal like 22 year olds

Yeah, they can get tired and then guess what they do they recover when they drive home and sleep I just I don't know everyone's talking about him getting burnt out and he needs to adjust the schedule It's like give it I mean who in what job and what career doesn't get tired at some price? Yeah, absolutely. And I wrote this. I'm my mailbag's going up today on Fox Sports so I call them and I kind of are doing

a little like many call long stands from the mailbag and it's in it. Pretty much what you said is exactly what I said. It's, I mean, we look at Jordan's feet right and we think this is the next generation of great offer. I he showed that already obviously in his 22. He's young makes $53 million last year I mean that's incredible, but You know it could end. I mean it could end in four years it could end in two years I mean he has he could go in a slump he could not win. I mean there's no guarantee that he's gonna be great for 10 straight years

So if you're the hottest ticket out there to go play in these events, overseas, I mean, take advantage when you can, I would. I'd go play in Singapore and the CIMB and Australia and all these places. Because you're not going to be. He might not be the number one player that every tournament wants in four years. I mean, we think you will.

But there's no guarantee. I mean, like I said, in IP, nobody in the world thought Tiger's last major win was going to be in 2008, but it was. So it's like, I would take advantage of it and if you're a little tired, that's just part of it. It's like you said, everybody's job, people are exhausted. It's just when it comes to pro athletes, anything they say about that, it does seem like we blow it out of proportion major. Yeah, though, I think this will be a record that I made it over 11 minutes without mentioning this next game, but this character creator Bruce Kevke has

He's been very clear. He's mentioned many times how much grappling the world basically changed not the person and changed his golf is his I'm not gonna say ability but it's a daffodilability to play different styles. Of course, it's in different continents, different time zones. And I've been very critical of the PGA tour policy that basically forced them to go play overseas, but he says that this is what helped form them into the player that he is today. So who's to say, Speed doesn't do it himself. It better long-term deal by traveling the world learning to play in different time zones

and different kind of conditions like that. Well, I mean, it's can't hurt. I mean, all the grades have done it. I mean, you know, you think back to D'Arty and Jack and those type of players that even back then go to the British Open, it's a great thing. I mean, and now Tiger, one everywhere, we've seen some other big players when everywhere and now you're seeing speed. I mean, I think the way he opened the season

was as impressive as any of his major wins. I think the way you played at Camelua obviously come into a season where people do question. I mean, the question's come just because he's the best, but you know, can he keep it up? Is this sustainable? Is he going to continue to be the best? And you go out and shoot 30 under.

I mean, to do that in the first of it of any year, I thought was as much of a statement as anything we've seen since Tiger and now you're talking about a guy that mentioned he's exhausted. Well, like you said, he'll take a week off and be completely fine. It's not like he's just scheduled to keep stuff like this. I mean, you know, it was just the start of the season and we've seen plenty of guys do this in the past, so this isn't something new. And like I said, I mean, he's not honest ticket in golf right now, and he's taking full advantage of that because those events that he's playing in, the Singapore Open and stuff like that,

you know, I mean, obviously, there's stuff that we don't know about that's being passed along to him. So, I mean, I would surely be playing it just about every event I could as well if I was him. Yeah. The Singapore one makes a lot less sense to me than Abu Dhabi did, but again, I'm in agreement though and letting it go. Back to the overall big four label that I guess we put on it. I think a lot of people, I wrote a piece for SBNation.com that was just basically against labeling errors in general while they're still

going on. I've got a big proponent of this in all sports in that you look at a guy like LeBron who basically had his career defined pretty much by the time he was 24, 25 years old and couldn't win a title in Cleveland. The comparison, you know, people wanted to compare him to Jordan, and it turns out he won his first title, the same age that Jordan won his first title yet. It was the fact that it didn't happen fast enough.

He was already labeled this thing. And it happens in almost every sport that we just kind of get carried away with wanting to label and define things while the story is still being written. Our example I gave was Phil, you know, standing over a putt to win the 2004 Masters, say, at that point he's 33 years old and hadn't won a major and he wore that, I guess, they bared that burden for so long that he never really got rid of it.

Even though he's one five majors We still like our reminded of all Phil's heart breaks in the US open what not To be to label something even like this like this big four When you know like two years ago this this whole this thing didn't exist like who were the top four players in the game Two years ago. Can you really say that like in two years? Are we gonna look back and really be like this was the big four like this the game two years ago. Can you really say that? Like in two years, are we going to look back and really be like, this was the big four. Like this is where it started. Or I mean, one of those guys could easily drop out of it. It would make like a real big four group of people like that.

They've got to be true legends of the game. The reason why Jack Nicholas, Arnold Palmer and Gary Player are known as the big three is they did this for decades. And there was and may really stack up so. But it's hard now because the talent was so deep that any guy could I mean, I've written in grace or somebody like that could jump in and this as well. I just think that as a person that's done this for a while, covering golf and had to go through a little where, you know, I mean, we're talking about the golf, the Westwood and the Warren Kymers, the best players in the world.

I mean, no knock to those guys, but you know, to have a stable of 27 and under player, 28 and under players with day and you're talking about guys that really like you said not only can win globally, but do it in the clutch. I mean, you're talking about Phil being a major winner right and I totally agree. I mean, he's always going to be able to level the loser but i think i'm pretty sure he birdie the final hole in in four of his major wins

you know which is credible and that's impressive right i mean that's clutch you know you're making a birdie on final sometimes he needed it sometimes he did uh... but if you look at the way ricky fathers one is events you know i mean you beat rory mackerel indeed points in a play up at the will sparrow uh... at the Will's Bargo. At the players' championship, obviously, he went birdie, eagle crazy to win that thing.

You know, when you think about the Scottish oes, and birdie blasts will win that by a shot. And in the way, he played Abidabi, I mean, you know, chips in on 17. I mean, these are much things to do. These are impressive things. He's pulling off gone through all shots exactly what he needs to to win. Major, major events. And I think that's the thing that I've been so impressed with with Ricky and one of the reasons that I do label him, that type of player is, you know, you look at somebody like

Dustin Johnson, who wins a bench, sure, but sure seems to be labeled a guy that won't pull out that clutch moment in a big time tournaments. And I feel like with Ricky, he's learning to be clutch, which I think is a learned thing. I think you can learn to be like that. And I think we're seeing it more and more. And I mean, four wins since May, I mean, that's really impressive. And I think that's something that he's going to continue to build on.

That being said, making no wins for two years. You know what I mean? This is golf. It's a crazy sport. But I just, that's the reason I kind of put them in a different category as I just, I've been in the rest of the way he's been able to close out these events with people really kind of limited his heels. Yeah, and I think people must be sure what I was saying is well, and it being a shineric, I don't mean that at all. I've been long since, I think you know, if you go back to the first podcast you and I recorded about two years ago,

we talked about how I thought Ricky Fowl doesn't get a fair shake and that his wins are coming. And I've always been a big Ricky Fowler. And I think everything that's happened in the last eight, nine months for wins supports that everything you just said that he is this clutch and true super star in the game. I don't think you'd really argue that. If you want to do the, oh, he doesn't want a major thing I got him gonna probably roll my eyes at Because right at the point you made earlier it's it simply it does not matter as much as people like to make it matter So again, it has nothing to do with Ricky himself. I think I

It's just something I notice on TV and it's probably just perception and who knows how much it actually applies But it does seem like when you talk about him being clutch It seems like the pressure. He doesn't ever seem nervous. It doesn't ever seem to show any nerves like when he's standing over a six foot Putt. I am as confident and making that more than I am like speak honestly. I totally agree. It looks like a routine Goose when our teeth go some was in his in his prime, you know, it was like every time Goose, it was like in the lead or was close to that US Open, you'd be like, well this guy's stone cold man, I know what he is and I kind of feel the same way, he's got this, this way about him on the golf course, even during that players championship, how are you not freaking out? He just wasn't. He was like, he was just chill, I mean he gave like many,

minimal fist bumps, I mean, you know like many, many, minimal fist bumps. I mean, you know, you're talking about one of the best closes to any event in the history of golf. And it didn't seem like he was out playing, you know, a 40-dollar NASS off with, with Snetaker and Phil. People like to think of him as this really flashy guy and, you know, because of the bright clothes,

but even like his person out he is like Very flat line almost all right anything. He's like a he's like a sponsor's dream But he never he never is in really any controversy and anything. He's not like You know aggressive on Twitter and social media or in ease. He's never in the feud or anything It's I don't know he's never in the food or anything it's it you know he's seen as like this why I don't know not wild like and if I can example of the new generation of golf you he's like the most even keel guy you could possibly imagine

well it's it's fun and what I've said from the start of this run is it's been fun to watch him progress into a guy that can be taken seriously from the masses I mean I really do believe that people did look at him and just see his It's been fun to watch him progress into a guy that can be taken seriously from the masses. I mean, I really do believe that people did look at him and just see his clothing, just see his flat-billed hat, you know, all that stuff, and they weren't sure why people we should care. And it's nice to know that there's a reason that every day guy that might not love his shoes or his pants or whatever reason they don't like them.

Like you said, I mean, everybody on tour says he's the most likeable guy out there. You know, it's like when everybody says that, you know, that's, I mean, he serves a bum. I don't know. It's like, he's like, good buddy, he's a bum. And he's good friends with a little like, that's crazy. Yeah, I guess my whole point also in what I wrote was just saying,

like, you know, rather than, you know, trying to define you know, these rivalries or this, this, anything arbitrary like this is me. Let's just kick back and relax and enjoy this because when I, I'm honestly fans of all four of these top four guys that we're saying, and if they're like, and watching Jason Day and Speed go down the stretch, that was really like really almost not enjoyable for me to watch because I wanted Speed to win. I wanted him to win three out of four majors yet. I also wanted Day to You know to get his first major. So I'm looking back at like that past years when I'm trying to choose between the lesser of two Eagles to win a tournament and now I'm looking at what we're blessed with now. It's like It's a different storyline on every single week.

And I can't even choose who I want to win the most. It's we're in this unbelievable period of golf. I keep saying it. I'm gonna keep saying it. I just want people to kick back, relax, and enjoy watching it, rather than making it. Who's the real number one? Let's just, we can decide all that

when all their careers are said and done. Well, but at the same time, we have this is what we have. This is what we look like. You know, it's, I always been, it's not overloaded in the guy, let's not talk him up too much and just kind of like see where he's at now,

but I mean, in the same sense, like you said, this is an incredible time of golf. And to me, it's like, let's preach as much as possible because it still doesn't seem to translate mainstream. It's crazy to me when I see like a highlight for Abidabhiyan sports center. I'm like, oh my goodness, they're showing this, like I can't believe that. And you know, it is as good a time as we've had. It's as good a time as I can remember in the game and I think it's fun and I think it would be amazing if Ricky wins a major this year but it doesn't that's still okay it's kind

of what you're saying so you know we'll see it and like you said we'll let it play out I think what we all want is it's just a little bit of these guys going after it in a major I mean I think that would be really fun to see you know take any of any of them, protest and then throw up in there I'll appear but see him go down the stretch you know what a gust or oak on or any of these places and see what happens because that's what we miss with Phil and Tiger and that's what I've always wanted you know to see and I think that's what everybody always wants I mean you know last night I watched Joe Gavish better you know that happens it seems like every tennis grand slam but in golf you know there's no guarantee that we're gonna get speed worry you know on the back then guarantee that we're going to get speed worry, you know, on the back,

then at Augusta, and if it ever did happen, I think, you know, the eyeballs would actually turn, you know, for the first time for people that really don't care, and I think that would be, that would be awesome. So, hey, Ricky Fowler and Jason Day and Rory and Jordan Speed, play really good in the match this year. I'm sure they're listening, so I'm sure the names have got through, but you just mentioned, I threw in a couple extra names there too and that's another one, a point I was making was like, it's not just these four, right? I mean, it's not like the NBA where you can kind of draw a pencil and a line under those top four teams and pretty much, I imagine, that those four are the ones going to be battling

off of the title. Like, DJ is so easy to put throw in this mix and I'm just going to kind of off of the title. Like DJ is so easy to put throwing this mix and I I'm just going to kind of trun on our side as big DJ fan. I'm more stealing this day from him. I think the major is still set up well for him this year and I'm just it's just it's it's going to happen. It is going to happen. You mentioned earlier that he's become kind of the face of heartbreak and it looks like it'll never happen for him. But he's still a guy I'm going to slide in my fantasy line of every single time when the majors come around.

Yeah, and I did a, you know, on my little preview piece this year, I said it would be the most likely break in the fourth of DJ, it was number one I put on the LNES. I mean, the talent and the ability to promote people out of the major. He's on the top of that list and I think he's the number one maybe you have to look at for a guy to go out there and just shoot 66 for straight days and and win by eight. I think he's the best candidate for that possible possibility So yeah, like you said, I mean and I and you know, I've had a lot of people say what about Mama? He should be on that list. You're like, well, yeah, I mean, he's one two masters and you know, that's impressive

But you know for now, I i included really following their because i think globally he's been incredibly impressive and equal to the other guys in that list and that's kind of why i wrote that piece but i mean that the reason it's fun is because it is up for the big i mean there's no guarantee that these can sustain this and stay there but you know like you said for now we can sit back and enjoy it because finally we've got a group of guys that are fun to root for actually

uh... can dominate golf running city very thought. Well, I don't know if this changes anything, but Ricky is one over par today on the North course. I think this is the, it was a fun era. Yeah, it was good. He really played really well. Congrats, Ricky. That was a lot of fun.

I hope you really enjoyed your career. But despite me saying that, you know, maybe we think majors are too important, have you made your picks for the majors as far as your students have to go on record and predict all four major winners? I haven't yet. I'm going to do a piece, probably, a couple weeks for the Masters' record, but I'm all up. So I'm going to hold on on that for the end.

Plus, I need to do a little research. I need to see, I think this is not the year for dual view. I'm so open just because it's history. I don't know if mine has been great. That being said, who knows, who might go out there when it's seven? I mean, I think the next few years for him at US Open seemed to line up a little bit better.

But yeah, I mean, do you think, I mean, do you think Lori wins one? I mean, is it too easy to say that you know Warrior's people in a major this year. I mean is that is that just like a layup in our opinions? Or is it one of those things we're saying they're not going to win? What is that better numbers or better off? I think when the British I just I couldn't go I Think he's gonna come back in a big way this year. I really do. And I couldn't go a major without picking him. But I'm pretty dead set that speeds going to win the Masters.

And I don't like his chances in the US Open only. Well, I'm just in my head on picture in DJ winning the US Open this year. So it was between the British and the PGA for me. Pick the pick Roy don't win one and I pick the British. So I think he wins. I don't think there's any way, as I'm trying to think of the math behind this, Steve, Rory, Day, and Ricky, I think they're going to win at least two of the majors this year. It's not crazy crazy is that? When so many guys that you talk about, that I talk about all the time, that, you know,

like you said, you already mentioned Cap Goode, I mean, we have a mischievous Patrick Greed, but Justin Thomas, and all these international players, I mean, I'm a great and great, I think he's got a very good chance of winning the major this year. It's real crazy to think that all of a sudden, there this class that's it's almost like the warriors and the spurs like you mentioned in the earlier it does feel like there's this class of player that we all focus on and there's a little bit of a gap in the next group when really in reality there's probably no game I mean like you said DJ could win two majors this year of other good win the masters

again I mean there's so many there's so many easy possibilities that aren't that crazy to think. And at the same time, we're going to go over four. Speak to go over four. I mean, these are very easy things that happen. We do get, I think what Rory and Jordan have done the last two years has kind of clouded our thoughts on how winning a lot of majors in a row is easy because outside of Tiger and first of all, he's in Pajor, Harr Harrington which is still one of the strangest runs ever.

It's such a rare idea to see people do this and it would be crazy to think that you know where he could win three and three years or speak and win three and two years. I mean it just I thought it was gonna be a lot harder for these young people to win majors that it consists of leveling and I obviously be improving wrong with that. The did Harrington win three out of five or three out of six? going to be a lot harder for these young people to win majors and it consists of leveling and I'm obviously being proven wrong. The did that. Harrington went three out of five or three out of six. You went three out of five.

You won the British, the PGA, and then you won the PGA the next year, right? So that's three out of six then. You won back the back. You won back the back. You're back to back Britishers. I can't remember. I mean, yes, what you won, I got it right here. You won the British, you know, seven what you want yeah one the British you know

seven and they won the British in PGA in a in a way I mean you know and that's what's such a bummer and I wrote this today about about what he majors I wrote this in the mail back but you know you think of moments in majors and you think how hard it is to win and that's a perfect example of Sergio. He did everything right to win that British Open. And he hits a good putt on the 72nd hole. And it just doesn't go in. And he ends up losing it.

And you're like, he got there. He did it. He was in position to win that. And of course, Dustin, last year, I mean, Dustin plays flawless golf the last two goals to give himself a chance. And then he hits a bad putt. And there you go.

And now he's a joke artist. I mean, it's crazy to think that those little moments matter so much in the scheme of things in the way we look at these guys' historically. Well, what's one of our favorite things to point out every spring is the Tuesday of Master's Week. And Mike Wears, dining at the Champions dinner, already got his flight book to leave town on Friday, but Len Matisse is down there doing some Monday qualifier

or Tuesday qualifier on the web.com tour. Like, they were like, they were like, they were gonna make 20 grand. Yeah, they know that right. The Lawn at the close calls in this game. I've tried to make this point before on the podcast and it's, I don't really even know how to make this point. It probably doesn't make any sense, but it's easy to look back at like the 2015 US Open and we know the speed wins it, right? So when we rewalk,

you just kind of get fixated on that final result and you forget how it unfolded. And so when I was watching like the highlights of that, you're just you're taken back into how uncertain it was that he was going to win, how certain it seemed after 16, and really again how uncertain it was on 17. You can lose the perception, people saying DJ can't win one. You go back and watch that, you should never walk away from that thinking that guy can't win him. Something just really unfortunate happened. Well I mean the T-Shotty hit on 17, I mean nobody hit it that close all day. That's a perfect example of the difference in DJing a lot of

players is you know that I mean that back T on 17. I mean when we play the practice around there it chambers. I mean you're like there's no way you can stop a golf ball on the screen. You know, when he hits a 15 feet and makes the putt, I mean, that was a clutch moment. It just, you know, he keyed. And really, you know, to be fair, he got a bad break on 18. I mean, the ball could roll back to a foot. We re-watched it at Franklin Temple, and we re-watched the final round as well. And, you know, a couple of balls before him, and rolled back to three or four feet and he has

a kick in for Eagle. And now you're talking about him beating Jordan. So I mean, yeah, like you said, it's easy to look back on the results and forget how people got there. And there's so many little things that go into winning a major. And again, we talk about majors like there, the end all. They're four weeks out of the year. And of those four weeks, you have to be playing an exceptional golf at this point especially, you've got to get all

the breaks to go your way and you can't run into somebody that's red hot. I mean, you know, Jordan's beat wins the PJ last year, Jason Dada and go crazy. I mean, you know, that's just how this thing works. So I just think it's easy to look and say, we're getting to have a major, doesn't have a major in, you know, you just kind of forget that there's about a thousand factors that go into these guys winning the league. Yeah, I think this, we may have talked about this in the, but we'll forever be known as the Lost Podcast where we spoke for an hour and it ended up not recording last year. I think it was right after the US Open, but Dustin Johnson

made a comment about that final putt, about not blaming it directly on the greens, but saying that the ball came off the putt are weird. I have my own theory on that. Do you put anything in that? You were at Chambers Bay. You played the course before. It's tournament.

I don't know if you played it after as well, but do you put any way into what he said? I mean, it looked like a shaky stroke. I mean, that's a lot. I mean, I've watched a few times now, and the stroke would shake. And obviously, the greens were buffured, and they wanted. So, you know, I'm not going to play a little bit of a factor into it. But I'll just say it didn't look like his best stroke, and, you know, it's understandable. I mean, it's a big time moment.

It's okay if you hit a bad putt. And I mean, I'm fairly certain you missed it low. And that's pretty much the pressure miss is the quick stroke and the pull. So, I mean, I think Dustin Johnson of all the things he's good at, he's actually been pretty good about being gracious when he loses.

I thought the way he handled the whole bug or date thing and everything like that, I thought he was, he handled it pretty well. You know, given that you could come out and say, this is complete DS and I thought he handled Jamers well as well. I mean, it was a tough loss for him obviously, but again, I mean, he had a block,

he put her all week and here we almost won. I mean, the week he'd put his drop and he said like that, he's going to run away. Yeah, my thought on it is that you played on shaky greens before, right? And the putts sometimes honestly don't leave the club face the way they should. They just don't start on the same line. It could be your ball sitting down in a little depression of some kind, but the thing is we saw this all week. I kept noting it all week.

It was putts, like, speak on the first hole on Sunday. I know a three foot putt that didn't touch the hole. And it didn't look like a bad stroke to me. It's just the ball can come off the putter in a completely wrong direction when you have greens like that. Yes, everyone's playing the same conditions, yes, playing the conditions, etc. I think it's very unlucky for DJ that this happened to him

on the final hole. He's scrutinized for it, but I put a lot of weight in what he said, mostly because of what you just said, though, and that he's typically very honest, and he's not one to make excuses or what not. I think he just honestly thinks, you know, the ball just came off the putter weird. It may have been nerves that cause it come off the putter weird, but I still, I do you don't like guys blaming somebody, if it was Bubba making this comment, the honest

I would probably have a different opinion, but I don't know, I believe them, and I think that actually the poor green conditions did weigh into it. And I think even said this before the final hole, I'm going to hate if this tournament comes down to a short point. It put on these greens where they just don't roll true. But the most important topic of Brickieicky Fowler and then we have to move

on from him, but where you stand on the high tops and the joggers. I'm already sick of the conversation, but I do want to know where you stand. Yeah, they're fine. I mean, you know, I'm 32 now. I mean, there's a lot of stuff. And it really is weird when you get older and you start like, you know, certain things. But I mean, I can't wear them. I would look good, she is hell at them.

But like, he pulls everything off, I think. I mean, I hate his hats, but he pulls them off. Like, I really do feel like he's kind of got that look bit like he can kind of wear whatever he wants that he looks pretty good at it. And so, I'm fine. I mean, again, do you want Jim Curic wear it? I'm probably not.

But I mean, Fowler seems to be pretty good at it. And also like, you know, Brandon Huma who makes those shoes, you know, I guarantee that they went and do it saying, what's a cool look that we could have that would make us flash. And, you know, I mean, that's what this is, right? I mean, it's business and marketing as well, just as much as it's making, look cool if not more. And so, I mean, it's fine. Again, I mean, I think Ricky, what's cool? I mean, I just do. Like, people think you look goofy. Man, well, I mean, you know, that's whatever.

But I think he pulled stuff off. I love how you started your answer the same way every single person I talked to about this starts their answer. And that's by naming their age to add relevance to the comforts. Well, it has to. I mean, I literally, if I were those on the golf course, my buddies would be like, dude, you got to get home or what happened, or did you leave your golf shoes in?

And I couldn't wear it just because it's not my look or my style. But I mean, I'm sure there's a 1,000 or 5,000 or 100,000, 18 year olds are going to buy it when they go on sale. You know what I mean? That's the look. Again, I'm not really a Jordan shoe guy over my jeans either, though. That's not really my look. So I'm not sure if they came out with converse foam shoes.

Now we've got you talking. Yeah. I put this in a couple of different pieces. I think I've written it. I'm fine with the shoes. I just do those joggers, man. It's just not a good look. I don't think he looks cool in the night.

I like his fashion. I'm not a big fan of the whole orange outfit. I don't know, but he's going to go away from it. I think he's going to go away from it. He has the subtle orange. He has, but I keep giving but I just I keep giving the Example like you've given are you look back just about 10 years ago not that long ago And there was some regrettable very regrettable fashion trends in the mid 2000s. You mean everything before

Count time looks short sleeve mock turtle neck like this is the thing that happened Did I really try to make the box like a really popular summer? I don't know So I'm 90 bucks ago. Oh, gosh They were they were glorified t-shirts. If you're ahead of button up short sleeve shirts This is like a I mean god bless Jim you know, I mean the guy You're just wondering like, nobody tells him, like, hey, those brown shoes about outfit are not the one, you know? Like, you gotta have that one friend that'll be like,

dude, that's terrible, you gotta change, you know? You gotta have your people looking out for you, you gotta have your stuff, I'm not that stylish, so I count on my friends, my people to keep me in check. And you got, yeah, so, Jerry's got to have somebody in his camp. I mean, come on. So, somebody, anybody, there was an outfit last night. I was watching whatever the European have done is right now, and somebody was wearing a purple pair of pants with a purple top,

and he was overweight with a white belt, but it was like different color purples and I just the Maxi-Machi stuff kills me. I think that's the worst, like I think that's worse that Ricky does than the joggers is like Sergio is the worst at it. Not everything has to match perfect. Like you don't have to have like the blue shoes and the blue bell and the blue hat and the the deepest things blue. I just feel like they've got this point where it's like you look like you kind of look like a mannequin but not in a good way. It's too matchy matchy in my opinion. And that's why I think Adam Scott's out into the vest because they're classy but it's

not like he has all of the stuff white and up perfect. Oh, much fun. I should have asked this to, I guess, when I had a horse or a Thomas on the podcast, but I'm going to do the pros decide what they wear. I mean, it's some of the stuff has got to be scripted for them. I know I've got to push some of this stuff, but I think I've heard almost, almost, what I've heard is the players are in charge of whatever they wear except for the majors because they do all those majors scripting. So I think they kind of like get, you know, maybe Billy Worshield gets set in outfits,

sent to him in a place and he can kind of pick what he wants to wear, or maybe he picks him beforehand. But I think they kind of can pick and choose what they want to wear pretty much every event except the majors, but then also they have, you know, we can put it into those scripting outfits as well. Okay. I'm going to switch it up. I'm going to ask you a question that I got in my mailbag from last week, but what is preventing the PGA door from doing some kind of like all-star weekend or like some kind

of skills competition, something like that? You have any half-baked ideas on the topics? Yeah, I think about this before it. Okay, so they had the skills challenge, and they would do like belong, and it was always in the silly season, and nobody watched it. And it wouldn't draw, I mean, to me, it's money, right?

I mean, if they had something where the winner took home $5 million, then they probably get. 5 million. Jesus! You've got that's what you've got to think about now. Like, is Jordan's faith in a hurry to turn their heads for a million bucks? You know? So like maybe it's winner take all 5 million bucks and you say come if you want and see

who shows up. But I think it'd be super fun to do and I think there's an easy opportunity for it because think about what's been popular in social media the last two or three years. The Brian Brothers, you know, the any trick shot people out there, what are the guys that do the stuff of Calloway that are happening on this following? You know, the dude perfect guys, that seems to be a popular thing for people and a snackable thing on the internet that just seems like the PG Tour is missing an opportunity here with that because I watch

it. It just means that in day after day, it is a stinger, two-iron under a two-foot beam that's under your way. I think that would be extremely interesting to watch. It would probably be more interesting than some of the sea level of this. Yeah. No, my idea was to do this Wednesday night of the waste management. It's already a boozy crowd, right? And people that say, you can't do it the week of a tournament or a night tournament. And that's just a freaking par three contest every Wednesday.

And they shut the doors to the course, then. That's a great point. That's the point. Right there. That's your point. That's the point. That's your point to lead up. The biggest of it in the year, that's a quote unquote silly thing the day before. Exactly. You can't practice, you know, you can't go out for reps. Exactly.

So you do a long drive contest, all right? You have all day Wednesday. This is my epic idea. Have all day Wednesday to do your trials, your time trials or whatever. You get three drives to hit on the practice team that they'll measure and you average them or take the 16 longest drives or whatever. So you make a bracket of 16 and you go head to head. For active 16, you each hit best of five and you're going head going ahead and you keep going until you get to the finals

like this would be the true parameter test same conditions same club is whose longer dj or blah blah or is rory who can crank it up the most like you can tell me that doesn't sell out and that doesn't really well on tv so so cal way uh... three-to- Management, which you mentioned, um, they had a, you know, Calaway for a while had that stable of players that were like all bombers.

It was like heroes and the Luke list and, uh, Woodland and, you know, all these guys that feed, okay. And they had a thing, a true nor, they had like a long drive competition, they had the heavyweight belt and everything like that. Gary Woodland said, well, he goes, I'm going to go back to my college suite so I can hit it like, so I can hit it like 30 yards further with that.

And these guys are going after it. I mean, they're swinging, they're swinging speed, probably 130. And it's something you're not going to see anywhere else that these guys actually try to murder a golf ball, like not carry to where it goes. And it's something you're not going to see anywhere else that these guys actually try to Murder a golf ball like not carried where it goes and it'd be fun I mean give them a long drive driver giving the stuff those guys you yeah at the competition just see What could Justin get out of it, you know because I think I'd be interested to see if he could hit a 400. Yeah I mean it don't have to just be long drive either we could do like a trick

I was thinking like a kind of like a dunk contest, but a trick shot challenge and like, but actually challenging trick shots, not where you can film it and have a million takes and do some really dumb stuff. But like, you use props and guests, you could have like celebrities come out and be like your props and whatnot and this is gonna happen on the European tour in like two months, you know that.

They're so good at this stuff, it's gonna be, this is gonna be like literally happen on the European tour in like two months, you know that. They're so good at this stuff, it's going to be like literally happening on the European tour. I actually, is it not yet, let's say, you know they haven't posted it yet. I believe it. I mean, they're so good at that stuff that I can totally see the European tour doing it as one of their viral videos. But you need guys, you need top guys to buy in or this thing will be a huge, huge thing. But you could pull out some big break stuff. Like, you want to see Phil hitting a flop shot over a big brick wall or something like that.

And you can do like a horse competition with like a top golf style. And then you end it all with a big closest to pin contest on 16 with the big sell-out crowd under the lights. I'm very glad you love it. I mean, you can really do it logistically on that golf course. You could probably do long drive on 11, which is right by 16. You could do a skip that across the water competition on 15 at TPC because you got the pun right there on a four or five.

I think it'd be awesome. Like you said, the problem is, you've got to have people buy in. And also, the other issue would be, you know, I mean, the speeds and worries are plain waste management. So are you doing just basically the best of the best from that group, you know? I mean, almost like you'd have to do it around a major

to make sure all those guys are there. Yeah, I think you put around a major though, and people are gonna bypass it pretty quickly. Yeah, I said, maybe you do it at TPC Socrates on Wednesday, you can do close-ups on 17 Ooh, okay You can do long drive on 16, you can do some goofy stuff there too, you know I mean, there's a lot of opportunity there. I feel like that place is I feel like that golf courses of most of them It's really ahead of its time and the sense of doing these kind of things. I mean, it would be cool

That'd be a fun idea, too. I can be talk to you tonight. I just felt like waste management. It's already big party. Everyone's already yelling on 16. The whole atmosphere is different that all week. That'll be the one that'll fit. I agree. You're kind of missing out on like this beef or we're part of that. But hey, Tiger plays there now. So you never know if he's not yet in that I haven't got the email yet if he's in the field He won't be in this I'm waiting. I'm waiting on the end of my scene here because he like we can do I don't want to do much tiger does he play this year?

You can be a yes, I know I said no, I just I mean that seemed like it like you said we can spend a whole meal on but It's been a lot of fun, but I'd be surprised we've seen it. Yeah. Any, what do you think about, or what, do you have thoughts on what we saw to Jason Duffman this past weekend, is this the return to glory for him? And you know, I, it was cool. I actually got to talk to him quite a bit at the, at the short shoot at the Franklin Temple,

that, obviously they won that. And keep, keep mentioning to us how much Brand Stediker was helping him with his buddy. He said just being around somebody like France Settaker And just how confident he is with the putter it almost makes him feel confident and The way he talked and just the way he was kind of Stroke it that week it did seem like this this guy, you know Don't one thing obviously laughing in this game is his buddy I mean, he's always kind of struggling with the putter. And she can get that locked in and dialed in.

And he's going to be scared. And he's like, great. I think the state shot though, I mean, that's going to be what, that's got to be top five shots of the year, right? I mean, that was crazy. I can't believe it didn't go down. If Bones was counting, you know, it would have gone down. That pin would not have been there. but it would have it was movement.

It would have gone in with no flag. I've seen that a couple of times. That thing was trucking. It was moving. It was moving. I was not surprised to see it down fall, because that had plenty of speed. I mean, I had definitely, I was definitely pulling for him. And when he hit that on the rocks, I thought it was over.

I'm in a little delay here, so I saw it on Twitter before it even happened. I was arranged up the TV off. It was about two in the morning for me. It was so good to see Duff back in the winter circle and it's a guided, I hadn't thought of the rider cup perspective really but you look at the start he's had to the season and even a guy like Stenetaker too, I kind of had I've written off in the past and I'm starting to look at it with a different light and that they've got Ryder Cup experience and a long ways away, but they've started the year very strong. And I wouldn't be surprised to see them in Red, White, and Blue Cup September. during events like this past event, which is not a major, it's not a must-see necessarily. Are you staying up every night?

Are you just picking and choosing your spots? Picking and choosing spots. Hawaii is really hard because that's 11 time zone difference or something like that. They do play those in the morning out there and I didn't last on that. If kept you going to stay closer to speed, I'd have stayed up and watched that, but Sony, I didn't watch a single shot. Do you have like a Red Bulls on reserve?

Like, really? Are you like, Argonne, I got to stay out. Well, what can I do? It helps that, honestly, the NFL is going on at the same time, so I can put them on two different screens, and at least feel better about the fact that I'm staying up super late to watch golf, that I can, you know, different screens and at least feel better about the fact that I'm staying up super late to watch golf that I can at least watch NFL as well. And so I was up watching Brockos Patriots

more than I was watching the career builder that's weekend and just kind of bled right into it. If Duckner wasn't up at the top, I may not have stayed up and watched that either. But as soon as we come away from the West Coast, it gets a lot better for me. Just that part of the year can be a bit of a struggle. It's a nine hour time difference right now. But there's a couple of things I don't know about.

But there's a couple of things I don't know about. But there's a couple of things I don't know about. The same one's career builder drop. Every time I thought about it, it takes me like three seconds to remember the career builder. And you said it just for you didn't even, didn't even miss a beat. I'm pretty impressed. I feel like I keep calling people on the call that you may have. You see, potential sponsors out there listening, this is how well I can seamlessly drop the name of your company.

So, and he drinks Starbucks coffee. Yeah, that's not good. Did you, what fill, I mean, did you have any thoughts on fill? I mean, is it just a good week or do you think there's something there? I think there's something there. I thought before the season, I thought we're going to see a resurgence from them this year in the ice. I think that the President's cup seemed to do something to him. And I honestly just think he cares so much about the Ryder Cup.

And that was kind of his, I think he pretty much kind of demanded to be on the Presence Cup team and put, you know, a pause in a tough spot to where he kind of had to put them on. Kind of helped Dave's love out in that. I think love has to put him on the team as well, whereas if he'd have been left off, love could have had a little more, I guess,

political leeway to have left to off the team is coming here if he also had another struggling year. I think he's a lot to be on the team based on what we saw out of the president's cup. And I think he knows that he got a freebie last year making that team and he doesn't want to put love in that same scenario. And I think it's going to be a really good year farm. I really do. What about you? Yeah, it's, it's, I, I always said this, there's something, there's something about

being relevant and golf that makes golf way more fun. And I mean, love, or hate, or whatever, but can be like him being in that DJ championship with Rory and Ricky and Rin going at it. I just I love Phil being in the hunt. I just think it makes it more exciting for whatever reason. You know, the fear isn't there with that guy. And I've always said, you know, it's got to be a lot easier to play golf when you've A already won majors.

You know, B don't have to worry about anything in a sense of your career or making a winning an event to get two more years of tour golf or worrying about money or worrying about status. Phil hadn't had to worry about that in 15 years. I just think that the his ability to freewill it when he gets in those positions it really is awesome and it's one of those things that we might not get to see it three more times in our career. So it would be cool if this year to gusty got back in the hunt like you did last year because it just feels different when he's there.

It really does. And I mean, I'm not even like a huge field band. I just, I enjoy seeing him. I think the events feel bigger. And what's crazy too, it's so insane to think that at 45 turning 46 this guy is having a better end of his career than Tiger which I don't think anybody would have ever guessed what like the the shape Tiger was in and how obsessed you was with being fit and all of those things and you always

look at Phil is kind of a schleppy guy who you know goes and gets donuts every Wednesday masters and his great jacket great jacket and he's still able to compete like that and in two majors in the last couple of years he's nearly won. I think this is going to be a big year for him to. Yeah, I mean it's definitely not gone. You know, I mean it's just he just set up. He had it down year last year and it's he doesn't want since the 2013 British Open just a stomach.

It's crazy. I looked at it. I wrote about that today. I couldn't believe that. I mean, I really couldn't because it doesn't, I think it's because he was in the mud and in two major, it feels like he was right there again, but you know, normally,

feel wins like the shell years did open or something. It's really, it always seems like you wins that, and it's crazy to think that we could be renearing on careers of his last win. And I think he's itching to win, too. I think that probably is motivation and in a self-diagry with you. He of all people, he of all people love that team thing.

And I just think he knows these only got maybe two or three more of these to play in. And he wants to make sure he makes it. Are you as cocky and confident as I am about the US Ratter Cup team at this point? God, I think they're gonna kill me. I wrote that in my Preview piece. I said that this is the year. I and you know what I don't I don't even feel bad saying it. Nope. Nope. I'm not nervous. I'm not nervous. I'm not nervous to circuit. I'm not nervous. So worry or McDowell or any of these guys.

I just, they don't think, I think these Americans wish you was like tomorrow. Yeah, I'm ready to shoot up. Yeah, tonight, I'm ready to night for this thing to start. Maybe in the last week, I've shifted a little bit into thinking, the way I look at it, they're top four or five or very strong for Europe. And they're going to play all four of the team matches or all four of the sessions for the team matches, right? They can maybe be there five, six, seven, eight guys are going to be stronger than I'd originally given you credit. I think Thomas Peters is a guy that could play his way.

I think he's going to be on the team and I think could be a Matthew Fitzpatrick type Emergence this year for him I'm kind of cherry picking that off of his good result in Abu Dhabi, but I think that they do have maybe some young Young guys that we don't pay as much attention to like we do our young guys and we just kind of assume our guys are dominant I got a question in the no bag a couple months ago about, if you were like to make a 27 and under team, what would the team look like for the US? I just thought, oh my God, this team's gonna be so stacked.

But really, 27 is, it's pretty young. And once it got past like eight names, or even like four or five names, once it got past Reed, that list gets thinned down a lot. So, it admit to you, I'm going to be in the D-shambo or something like that where you're not totally sure they do.

It is funny, I'm looking at the European team right now, I think you're spot on. I mean, guys like Rose, Kym, or Sergio, aren't even in the list right now, you know, on the European's point list, if you look at the world point list, that's different, but there's going to be a lot of young Europeans too. It might be more fun than we just said there in Zogs about the land. We'll a little bit tough, you know? Yeah, and Shane Lowry's going to be there, I think. Yeah, I'm just going to be on there.

Yeah, and two weeks ago, it was probably a more confident than I am now. It's going to change 50,000 times. What's the odds? Is there big odds on this yet or not? It's around even the last I've so high-burd, which kind of surprises me, but which I guess gives the edge to your opinion to write because it's all American squads. Yeah. I think the American would be a little bit more to have your favorites as a big calm ground. But you wonder if that's just like, you know, people look at past results or I don't know what drives public betting to be on a sudden people always bet on Tiger.

And it's different as you and I think the team could be, there's a really good chance the team could not be different at all. I mean, there's a decent chance that it could be the kooch, durin, kooch, come on. Like you said, Duffner, Stenaker, I mean, it really could be, it could be you're similar, and we both think that there should be like six different names on there, but I mean, it could be, you know, it could be the same old same old,

you just never know. I mean, if those guys have big ears, they'll just be on it. All right, we're gonna end this on one. You're only allowed, yes or no answers to these, as to, I'm gonna name a guy, you're gonna tell me whether or not they're gonna be on the US writer cup team okay

uh Brooks Kevka yes Justin Thomas yes Jason Duffner no Brandt's Nettaker Yes Patrick Reed Yeah man come on now he's I don't think he's in the top 10 in the standings. Doesn't matter. I know. Okay. Kevin Ma.

No. I'm sorry. Okay. Sorry. He's not because he's not going to get picked. Okay. He's going to have to qualify. Kevin Kisner. No. Unfortunately. Wow. Matt Kisner. No, unfortunately. Wow. Matt Koocher. I mean, so I have a hard time with these guys because it's not, I think it's not just on play. I think that the relationships with Pam and them have been placed so much into it. I say yes. Even though I would not probably think of it. Yeah, I was a captain of Instacooge. I like Hootalon. I would I would probably say no, but I think he will be.

Okay. I'll let you off the hook with this. What should we anything different we should look for this year with you on Fox? I will be starting a little podcast myself in the next couple of weeks. So, put the check that out and have you on all that good stuff. And then, I mean, I'm writing on Foxboards.com, you go to the golf tab, there's actually a little link there for me if you just want to, you can kind of check that out for fresh it every now and again, I normally put a piece or two up a week and then I'm going to be doing some work with PGH to our live.

So I'll be doing some posting stuff for that starting in Northern Trust, which is obviously a pretty fun event considering the names that are committed to play there. So I'll be hosting some of that, the future group and feature hold coverage for them for three events. So yeah, I got my year really kind of ran stuff in about three weeks and I'm going to be out of the waste management this next week as well. So go out there and kind of ran stuff in about three weeks and I'm going to be out of the waste management for the next week as well. So go out there and kind of chat with some of the guys and do all that free events stuff. So we're getting going and it's pretty fun, but you know, you keep killing it.

Every time I turn around, I feel like you're on something new. You run morning drive. Your picture, even though your picture look, you kind of look in that picture like you're, you could be like an extra in a vampire movie. The facial hair, you take a few. You look like sinister, but like not in like an overly sinister way. It's just a little bit, which I think almost fits a little bit. You know, like, you don't, you don't hold back on stuff. You know, you're not scared to go after people when they need to go after. So that's perfect picture for you. Like, I can eat your heart out, but I also got a nice guy at the same time.

Great, great beard. It's a great beard he's got. But I keep killing it. It's crazy watching the NLL and Hub love. I'm continuing. I love when the pros ask you for sure. It's definitely $1 million in my love. I'm continuing. I love when the pros ask you for sure. It's definitely when a million dollars is my favorite. That's ridiculous.

I just won $1.2 million. Can you send me a free share? Signals, Signals, share, man, whatever you want. Daddy, it's in the mail money. You should send him an invoice in like six weeks for like eight or eight hours. I can't. It's a really expensive shipping from my answer day up.

No, he requested it on the house. I can't bill in for it. I. No, he requested it on the house. I can't bill him for it. I mean, he's simply requested it on the house. I've heard so, and I can't get into it. There are so many stories I hear for these athletes that ask for free things, and you're like, dude, you may $20 million last year. I wouldn't even want to send the email.

Yeah, but anyway. Keep it up. It's fun. It's fun. It's fun. I wear my no to send the email. Anyway, keep it up. It's fun. It's fun. It's fun. I wear my no-lane up shirt. I wear a wet actually wore yesterday hiking. And I have one guy kind of give me the thumbs up.

And I'm always wondering if they just are thumbs up in my high-kin abilities, or am I sure you just never know. Was it Phil? It was him. I don't think Phil's got a camel back now, I can right now. But you never know. Also, I just want to let everybody know there's going, not a knackin right now, but you never know. Also, I just want to let everybody know there's going to be a photo shop, and if anybody's

even listening, there's a photo shop on my Fox Sports Mailbag, and it's including Phil Nicholson. Let me just say you need to go check it out so that that should be up today, but the question was which player should not wear another player's kind of outfit or attire and shocking film-able-it. So it'll be a wildly entertaining. where another player's kind of health bitter retire and shocking bill made a list. So it'll be it'll be a wildly entertaining look for that I'll add the link to that in the in the podcast. I'll just might appreciate that. Yeah and thank you to the time as always man we will talk to you again soon. For sure see you then.

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