No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 298: Phil Mickelson Deep Dive

Episode Date: April 6, 2020

Resident Phil fan Big Randy takes us on a journey through Phil Mickelson's career, from winning as an amateur on the PGA Tour, his major heartbreaks, his breakthrough, gambling, controversy, equipment tinkering, and a ton more. There's so much to cover with this one, we struggled to keep it under two hours. Enjoy.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah. That's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! Before we get rolling here with today's episode another roundtable, deep dive episode this time led by none other than Big Randy, I want to let you guys know if you can programming updates. Strapped is scheduled to premiere on Fubo TV at 6pm and 6.30 Eastern time. You can find Fubo on any smart TV just by searching for Fubo TV.

As well, the no-laying up podcast will officially be on Dan Patrick Radio Mondays, Thursdays, and Fridays at 6pm on SiriusXM channel 2.11. So we're looking forward to these podcasts hitting the airwaves on Dan Patrick Radio on Sirius XM. And finally, before we get into, you know, one of the topics that we're going to talk about with Phil, of course, is his penchant for golf equipment. Always been a tanker,

never shy about mixing up with his bag, he's one major with one driver in the bag, two drivers in the bag, and with no drivers in the bag, we talk a good amount about that. We're going to talk specifically about the Frankenwood that helped them when the UK British opened, presented by her majesty, the Queen. It was a one-off custom club that Calloway, that actually, I didn't know this,

they actually inspired Calloway's strong-lofted fairway woods that are available to all regular golfers out there. The Maverick line has a 3-plus currently in the bag of our own very own Tron Carter. It feels also, of known for his wedge play. He collaborated with the Calloway R&D to create the PM grind wedge. I can't really describe this thing. You have to at least go look at this wedge how big and high the toe of it is and it's got grooves that go all the way to the edge and all the way to the Hazel for a player that lives very close to the Huzzle like myself. I might want to look into that. It allows for a ton of versatility around the greens.

I believe Neal has described it as cheating. It feels like cheating around the greens with the PM grind. So not surprisingly, Phil was also the first player to game a ChromeSoft with triple track technology to help us align it not just on Puts, but also on T-Shots, and we'll also discuss how he probably could have used the triple track much earlier in his career,

as it seemed to have been defined by missing a lot of short putts earlier in his career. You can learn more about Phil's equipment at CallawayGolf.com and learn how to hit bombs from Phil on Callaway's YouTube channel. Without any further delay, here we go. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up Podcast. Another book report edition, we have a substitute teacher for today. The actually kind of one of those situations where the teacher is going to be a student in the classroom. That student is going to be Mr. Neal Schuster. I'm a TA in Professor Randy's course today and I'm thrilled to, Professor's put his

glasses on right now, which is, which is fitting. Wow. That's getting me. Randy, I am excited. My notebooks open. You know, pencils out, laptops down. Thank you. Let me let me let me get a chance to introduce everyone here. Oh my gosh. She's all excited to get the class started here. TC is here.

Hello, Sully. Mr. DJ Pi is here as well. Hey greetings. And now finally time for the professor. Big Randy here to talk about one of his favorite topics, maybe in the world. Mr. You know what you introduced it. Today's subject is one Philip Alfred Michelson. Alfred. Yeah. Learned his stuff already. Wow. Write that down. What are you doing? How about the fact that Randy used to be an actual substitute teacher? That's, yeah, God, that's no one at this table is more qualified for this.

Well, he could do a whole new podcast on that. The key, I'll say that's the key to substitute teaching. You have to quickly establish that you care less than the students. That's the only way to gain the upper hand. Is that your approach to today's lessons? It's somewhat. It's like the line from office space when he talking about jail, it's like within the first 24 hours, he either beat someone up or become someone's bitch.

How much go visits? Yeah, not that bad. Not that bad. So we're going to dive into the life and career of Phil Mikkelsen. Can you set the scene first for your unabashed love for the man, how that dates back and why? Yeah, great question. I will never apologize for being a Phil Mikkelson fan.

I grew up a huge, huge fan of his. I think, I mean, anytime somebody shares your first name, I mean, you gotta be a fan, right? Big. But no, I feel tattery. I feel tatering. I think I was coming of age, right? Although he was the second, third, fourth best player

out on tour, he was in a way, an underdog to Tiger. The heartbreak kid. And he was the heartbreak kid. He was 0 for 46, which we will get into in his first majors. 11 and a half years of majors. And I think I was naturally drawn to that and then more than that his style of play was always I just appreciated it right that the Go for Broke, reckless swashbuckling play he exhibited on the course was fun.

And I was hoping he'd say swashbuckling. Yeah. And I guess more than that, you know, say what you will about it. We can get into some of it. But he had a certain persona and charisma on the golf course and the way he treated fans and the way he would Talk to media and give stand-up answers and I don't know. I appreciate it especially in contrast to Tiger and everything about Tiger Woods at the time. Can I ask you kind of an existential question? I was thinking about it. Yeah, it seems like everything Phil runs antithetical to everything big Randy Well, and curious how those two things square for, is it an opposite to track?

You willingly let him pull the wool over your eyes. I don't know, I'm curious if you've thought about that and if that's a fair assessment. I have. I think, I think my admiration and fandom for him was solidified at a young enough age where one I wasn't really aware of you know, maybe this could be an act and and two I wasn't fully formed in my

pessimism or cynicism about about the world and so I kind of like he's grandfathered in exactly yeah, I think that's exactly the right term um he's outside of statute limitations yes but it's it's a of like he's grandfathered in. Exactly. Yeah, I think that's exactly the right term. He's outside the statute of limitations. Yes, but it's a point we'll take. But also, maybe this is a discussion for afterwards, but if somebody's been acting, quote unquote, acting like something for 25 years,

isn't that who they are at this point? Well, I think that's a very good point as well. At some point, you fake it until you make it, right? I think there's been a lot of parallels with the Garth Brooks documentary. The Garth Brooks podcast we did. I had never made the Phil Garth comparison. That's a really good one. One question just going to set the scene for today's lesson. Kind of in comparing how American history books maybe conveniently leave some things out, you know, and when I look back at my time in school

I was like, wow, why didn't I learn about that? Is the name Billy Walters gonna come up as a lesson? We will do it sometime to Billy Walters. So we're getting the real story today. Yeah, and so the format I want to use, I want to go, I feel like chronologically is the easiest way to go about it. So let's just dive in. Let's go. He turns 50 this year. So he was... This is chronological. Well, that's... So that's...

You gonna hit us with a trivia? You gonna hit the class with any trivia? Well, here's your first trivia question. If he turns 50 this year, what year was he born, Neil? 1970. 1970. That's right. So just pet over there.

Sorry. Hey, hey, hey, I have my hand raised. We got a solid sit in the front and the DJ sit in kind of the back. Like, yeah, professor, I had my hand raised. We got a solid sit in the front and the DJ sit and kind of in the back like, yeah, professor, I think you're full of shit. How can you actually like this guy? Put a gold star above my name.

So he's born in 1970 to Philip and Mary Michelson, San Diego, California. You see the second? He's not technically the second, but I don't know. I don't know if he's a junior. I didn't see anything about him being a junior. Don't you just have the same middle name to be a second? Listen, I'm asking the second.

Well, they didn't say, yeah, well, yeah, in the second I'm not junior in the second. My dad was like, what are you doing that shit? But we're not doing that shit. I don't think Randy said, his father's middle name. Honestly, it's not my notes. It's a good question. Why don't you come to my office hours?

We can discuss that further. He's right-handed and everything. Those are your first little trivia. I think everybody knows this. Right, he's right-handed, but became left-handed, mirroring his father's swing. So has his father practiced in the garage right-handed. Young Phil would stand across from him

and mirror his father's action, which created a left handed swing. His father was an avid golfer. They had a short game area in their backyard, which I think goes a long way to Phil becoming the short game artist that he would become. Really not much is very typical childhood. Obviously loves golf.

There are stories about, you know, one time at age four, you ran away from home with a golf club in a bag of balls and a neighbor found him down the street and returned him home. Is this his version of Greg Norman getting caught off the on his boat by the Coast Guard? Is like a, hey, it's the wine guy.

Not the golf guy. Maybe he was just playing around around the neighborhood. Well, the last story went, yeah, he was like mad about something. So he was going to run away. And I may have missed it. He grew up in Southern California, San Diego. San Diego. Yeah.

So I want to point you obviously is an avigolfer. The first career milestone comes in 1980, where he wins the junior world golf championship in the boys 9 to 10 division It would be in San Diego in San Diego correct. Yeah, it would be the only World Golf Championship You would win though four years later in 1984 is that official WGC event? It's not okay though Four years later he would lose he would be runner up in the 13 14 division to South African named Ernest L's Great photo from that day. Yeah. Yeah, was Ernie a big unit back then big unit. Yes, has always been a big unit

He kind of looked like Freddy actually as a teenager. Well, it's funny. You mentioned Freddy is actually modeling I'm a righty Freddy's lefty. He's modeling my swing. He's beaky comes way over the top. Freddie's kind of a swashvuckler too. A young swashvuck. Great hair. The only other boys junior event that I wanted to point to again, he finishes runner-up, maybe setting a bit of a motif for later in his career. In 1986, he finished runner up at the junior worlds to Corrito Villa Roman. And what was significant about this was

he finished runner up by 11 shots. Mr. Corrito shot a 15 under, a record at the event, and absolutely dusted the field. And I thought that was kind of interesting because I have never heard of Carito Vila Ramon. But that's next week's lesson. Yeah. So did he come back into the story later?

Not at all. So get this. What if guys we've had you to change? Oh. So he graduates from the University of San Diego High School. I don't, I guess it's a high school on the campus of University of San Diego. That name threw me for a loop.

University of San Diego, there's the Don's. No, that's San Francisco. Oh, that's right. Yes. Not the SX, that's San Diego State. That's the Torres. The Torres, I think. Yeah, exactly right.

This was the University of San Diego High School. So I don't know what the high school mascot was. He graduates in 1990, he heads or excuse me, 1998 and he heads to of course Arizona state, of course, forks up. And I just want to take you through. I'm not sure people appreciate how good his college career was. So as a freshman, he wins the NCAA championship. He plays on the Walker Cup team, comes back his sophomore year, wins the NCAA championship. He plays on the Walker Cup team. Comes back his sophomore year, wins the PAC 10 championship, the NCAA championship, and the USA amateur.

Quick note on the USA amateur. He defeated Manny Zerman, five and four at Cherry Hills. Manny Zerman finished runner-up two times in a row at the USAM, 1990 and 1991. DJ you're shaking your head. Sean Martin a huge man he's an airman fan. He would ring that up all the time. Did he turn pro? I believe he's a teaching pro now. I'm sure he had a go of professional golf. He went to Arizona. He didn't feel we're actually high school teammates at the University of

St. Ago high school. Man he was from South Africa but moved over to the States and then went to Arizona and I believe he's now teaching Pro and South Florida. Anyway a quick note on that US amateur win on the first toll of the final Phil conceded a 30 foot par putt to sermon. Michelson had a two foot birdie putt and conceded the par putt to sermon saying later that I wasn't gonna try to lag a two footer. And you know, this is me putting words in his mouth now. I knew I had to make it, which I think is the first big jam.

Like imagine that your opponent's 30 feet out. It's the first hole of the USA big jam. Like, imagine that. Your opponent's 30 feet out. It's the first hole of the USAM final. You're good, man. I'm just gonna put all this pressure on myself to make this two foot birdie puck. So I don't wanna lag it. That's sick. I've never heard that before.

Just like Big Rady. Yeah, true celebration. So he was, yeah, he would go on. That was at Cherry Hills. He obviously won the USAM. It became the first person since Jack Nicholas in 1961 to win both the NCAA and the USAM in the same year. It became the first left-handed swinger to win the USAM. Wow. And in 1990, when the Fred Haskins were worked for the top, kind of the Highest Man trophy of college golf. the Fred Haskins will work for the top, kind of the highest controversy of college golf.

So that's a sophomore year at Arizona State. Let's turn now to his junior year. This is at a time you got to remember people aren't turning pro early. You know, these days, I think he wouldn't have seen his sophomore year. It was, you know, besides that was pre 9-11. He could not have been worse.

God knew it was pre 9-11. So in 1991, he's the two-time NCAA defending champion. He does not win the NCAA championship in 1991. Warren Shoot of UNLV wins, Phil finishes tied for fourth. He also does not win the USAM, loses in the round at 16. He does, however, win the Fred Haskins award again as the top college golfer. And, oh, yeah, what also was special about 1991.

He also won on the PGA Tournament. So as a college junior, he wins the PGA Tour's Northern Telecon open in Tucson by a stroke. And you got the dumbass helmet. No, not the dumbass helmet. The conquistadors, so. Was that the old, that's not the Phoenix open. No, it's a it's a bygone tournament. Actually, it's the Tucson event,

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Rio Marshews RIO-MAR.com, use promo code NLU15 for 15% off at checkout. Let's get back to the pod. So just a couple of things to note from that. He became the sixth amateur to win on tour. He is still the last person to do that. Obviously, he was 20 years old when he won. In the final round, tripled the 14th hole.

He was leading. He tripled the 14th hole to go three down. It could be no. But then birdied 16 and 18 for the one-shot victory. Oderassi. So again, even as a 20 year old at the start of his PGA career, essentially he's always been that guy.

This was 91. Yeah. Okay. And you know, he played the Walker Cup that year too. His second Walker Cup. Yeah. So we give a shout out to the team. Please. Alan Doyle, who has had to have been mid 40s at that point David Duval David Eager Franklin Langham Bob May Phil Meckleson

Tom Sheer J. Siggle Mike Spusa Mitch Vosius Any names in any partnered with with Bob May in one or two of the matches. You guys talked about that with Bob May, didn't you? I think we talked about his walk. Yeah, I don't know. I was like, I don't know his track draw episode six or something like that. Bob May was trap draw episode one. Yeah. Was he? That was back when you had to have been runner up in a major.

You get on the trap draw. Yeah. Van the Velvete. Van the Velvete was on. Yeah. I want to know how many ways. How many ways feel qualified for the 91 Masters? Because he won the USAM.

He also won a tour event to get as an amateur. And he's shrinking the field. He's still played as an amateur in 91. Yeah, correct. Because I was gonna say, he comes back to school for his senior year in 1992. Unfinished business. Unfinished business.

That's a big jam move too. Wait, so all right, so he comes back but then he turns pro midway through. I know I'm probably fast forward. No, no, no, he completes, he turns pro in June of 1990. He played all four years. Yeah.

I thought he won pro-american all four years, baby. Yeah. Oh my gosh. That's a huge effort jumping ahead. That's a bit of the energy years, baby. Yeah. Oh my gosh. He's just jumping ahead. That's a bit of the lead ahead. Don't read ahead. Go read ahead. Oh yeah, the money's going to come.

I'm that good. I think I got unfinished business right here and then we'll get to that stuff. I think you mentioned it. People just, you didn't turn pro early. No, you didn't turn pro. I mean, you look at all the college sports. It's full of, really, people would go,

if you left pro one year early, that was like what people did, maybe. But yeah, people went all for you. Aren't there stories of him walking around with noodles of cash, though, like from his, like during his college days? I couldn't find any on the record, but I'm sure, you know, who could possibly say?

I'm sure, I've got some fun. Mr. Randy, some of the messages I've got about Greg Norman the last week, I'm sure, you know, who could possibly say? I'm sure. I've got some fun. Randy, some of the messages I've got about Greg Norm in the last week. I'm sure there's going to be some DMs coming your way with some deets that I hope you share with us. That might be in the off book report. Yeah. So, 1992 comes back as a senior.

He wins the NCAA championship for the third time. He wins the Fred Haskins award for the third time joining Ben Crenshaw's the only three time winners. I've ever heard of him. So he wraps up his college career winning 16 tournaments and 51 starts. And then as I mentioned, he turns pro shortly after graduation in the spring. Obviously doesn't need to go to Q-school. Goes right onto the tour because of his PGA tour win.

It was too busy winning. So they hold that exemption once you've won for two years. That's the exemption for winning a tournament, right? Yeah, you get two full years after the current year. Yeah, even if you're not a professional. Apparently. How about that? It doesn't really come up much.

I know, that's why I never really thought about that. This might be a dumb question. He's the most recent amateur to win an event, right? Yeah, he's still the, yes, correct, correct. Come on, pay attention. You're just going to have a web tour event. Gotcha. In Athens. Correct. And Shane Lowry won the Irish Open as an amateur. Correct. 1993 is first year on tour. The only real significant thing to note. Besides, he won twice was he hires Jim Boone's McCay as his caddy, obviously a relationship

that will last a long time. What tournament city win? The Buick Invitational at Torrey Pines and the International in Colorado. Is that the stable-furt one? Yeah, Castle Ferdinand. Oh, wow. So he just, yeah, Castle F just, yeah, that's what a format for him. He's just going low, jacquist style.

Did you say, I don't know if this is in your notes, but wasn't his college golf coach? Was that Steve Lloyd? Yeah, good, good, great question. What's your name? DJ. Yeah, great question. No, thanks. Happy to be here. Steve Lloyd was his college coach at Arizona State, and then transitioned. Shout to Kevin Benjamin. Thank you.

To his agent and business manager upon graduation. Only reason I bring that up is, A, it's foreshadowing if something is brotherable. Exactly. We'll do later and B, it's a pretty baller move or weird move. I don't really know to be a very successful college coach of a three time national champion and to be like, fuck this, I'm an agent now. Yeah.

What's among the bad, the most common way? Let's manage this business. Well, I think when you get certain show ponies, you got to attach your card to the generational guys. I'd like to give a shout out to Amy. Michael, I know we'll get to her. Yes, we will. But I guess they met when he was at Arizona State. She was a junior in College and was a Phoenix son cheerleader at the same time. So she had already gone pro Some people consider cheerleader sport

a lot of people. Something like brother. Something like that. Well, some people consider cheerleading a sport. Exactly. But she went and she kept going with her degree while doing the Phoenix songs. Very cool. Do you have the first date story in your notes? I don't.

Do you have it? Yeah. Well, he tells it all the time. But he talks about how he was a psychology major. Yeah. And so he made sure that their first date was to a scary movie because he knew that, you know, this sounds like sociopath stuff, but he knew that like, you know, heightened, uh, whatever, your, your adrenaline gets going, which makes you implicitly like trust

the person next to you more. He's like, yeah, there was all this, all the signs that went into why I chose the first date because I knew she would be nervous, she would be more apt to kind of like let me, you know, let me in. And he's again, it's worked out. He thought it on Faire in the leather jacket. That's what I have for that. Essentially the fear and like the attraction are kind of the same physical responses and so he was able to like substitute the attraction for the fee. You better scare the shit out of anyone you're attracted to. Yeah, they go ahead. They go ahead. They go ahead. They go ahead. They go ahead. They go ahead.

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It's the situations where some of the people that may have been involved We're also like dude. He is out and they play they're playing the nicks like tomorrow night in Phoenix And they go and like we're taking the nicks man. This is crazy like Chuck is out super late and bark We go back and put up like 42 and 16. And the suns would just wipe the floor with them. Yeah, well, we're gonna get into some gambling stuff, of course. Sean, thank you for pointing that out.

Those Phoenix suns teams were awesome. Shout out to Paul Westfall. Yeah, head coach. So shout out to everybody. Really shout out to everybody. The next five years on tour, really the time frame between 1994 and 1998, Phil establishes himself as, you know, a very good player on tour. He wins 10 times, has seven top 10s at majors, he has two third place finishes, one at the PGH Championship, one at the Masters.

Off the course he nabs a speaking role in the 1996 film, Tin Cup. Of course I think everybody is familiar with that. There was a story that I found apparently somebody bet him that he couldn't flop a ball over a tree on set and there was like a pool of 1200 bucks that people antied up for. So the story goes, you know, Michelson of course takes the bet, hits the flop shot and as the ball like essentially before it reaches its apex over the tree, bends down and picks up the money

and walks off. That's pretty good. So yeah, he made $1200 on the set of Tinkup. In 1996, he marries. He, Amy, they officially tie the knot after four years of dating. And so this all sets up, you know, he's one over, you know, over 10 times on tour. He's had some good major finishes. How wait, all right. So how, like, how are his first three or four years out on tour, he's had some good major finishes. How are his first three or four years out on tour? Did he, was it successful? Was it?

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He's won 10 times. He's got made up in $12. And he's got a third place at the Masters runner up somewhere. A third place at the Masters. I think if you're freezing it right there, it's like 1997, maybe the next decade is mine. I am ready to take off.

Well, you know what? I'd like, you know, we obviously we have the Tiger Tax, which you've genuinely put together of how much money the Tiger put in other people's wallets. I think there should be a Phil Tax calculation of just how much money extra money Phil has paid in taxes to live in California. We're gonna get there. We're gonna get there. So, yeah, Tron, I guess to answer your question,

he's, you know, like, I have to think the list of people of one 12 times on tour is, you know, we're getting into a rarefied air. I'm just saying that like strikers hold here. Yeah. Three of those wins were Tucson. Like, you know, is he winning big events? Take me, or is he just scratching the surface here? He's scratching the surface. Like he beats up the international. He beats up the West Coast swing, really.

Okay. Which he does his whole career. So we go into 1999 and this is the first instance where this is kind of the initial wound in the US open that will develop all kinds of scar tissue throughout his career. This is the famous beeper tournament, Amy's back home, eight, nine months pregnant, feels ready to leave at a moment's notice. They're expecting their first child would be their daughter, Amanda. So Phil shares the first round lead.

This is at Pinehurst number two. He shares the first round lead with a 67. He shares the second round lead after a second round 70. He's one back after the third round. He shoots a 73. And so we go into the final round. He's dueling with pain, steward of course. Phil.

The cat chokes. The cat, the cat pain, steward of course. Phil the cat chokes the cat the cat chokes people forget that rip cat right Phil has a one shot lead going into 16 on Sunday He bogeys after he misses a six foot par put Pain makes a 20 foot Put to save his par. So now, pain is tied. Pain? This is 99? Yeah.

Pain on the 17th, though? 16th. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. Major pain. I'm excited. No, pain makes a 20 footer for par on the 16th, and then birdies the 17th to take a one shot lead.

The nugget from that is like, if you look at the scorecard that Phil signed afterward, he writes that two in like bold. Like when pain makes the birdie, it looks like it's in pen because he writes it so. So it's a hard. I wonder if he got a decoy. That's a good question. That is a good question.

Michelson misses seven plus on 17. And then of course on 18 everybody knows pain makes his 15 footer to win. So just the what I wanted to paint there was obviously Phil misses a couple short putts. Pain makes some tremendous putts and Phil finishes runner up at the USO. This is back when that little ass, a crowshafted thing right? Well the chrome yonix right? Yeah. And I do want to mention, I feel

the same 31 inches long. We're going to get into other sponsorships through the years, but feels early sponsorships might be the best the game has seen between Hugo Boss, Rolex, Yonix, Yonix, sometimes he would wear the, the tour advisor in the early days, he just wouldn't wear it at all. Great flow. That was pre-bearing point. All pretty.

You got to remember this. Yeah, it was all pretty pretty. Very pretty. Pretty any kind of real financial system. We even got into Ford bearing point. That's the dark ages. Well, this is my last memory of, like, as a high school middle school golf around this time

Was just you're talking about Phil missing these short puts like that's all I remember Which is like oh he's not gonna make this like no they wouldn't even touch the whole they weren't even close That's true and then things flipped eventually for him where he started making those puts But for so long and I will get the shinnokaka just like no, he's not gonna make this as a kid I thought I was like man this guy is so good. He just can't make it like short Why you just put yeah, what I never thought make this. As a kid, I thought, I was like, man, this guy is so good, he just can't make it. Like, short while you just... He puts, yeah. What I never thought of when I was a kid, I lockstep word for word with you.

What I never thought of was like, man, this guy hits it close a lot. Yeah, I know, which is what I should have thought, right? It's like, oh, it's, it's close. How many shots do you think he costs himself every week by playing that short ass blade putter? Or, because that's what I always come back to. It was like, man, he look cool,

but like was he playing along stuff? Yeah, because I bet all of us tried to play, I tried to play a blade putter. I was like, oh, that's so swaggy. I didn't make any. Well, that's great for shadowing too. We'll get to something along those lines, Tron. So I wanna take us now into the year 2000

and I wanna focus on a four year window between 2000 and 2003. In that window, he wins eight more times on tour. He collects eight top tens in majors, including three straight third place finishes at Augusta. And then he also has runner ups at the 2001 PGA championship and the 2002 US Open.

Oh, one as when David Thomas broke his back by laying up on 18. Yes, correct. And then the 02 US Open, I believe, is Beth Page, which he wasn't really... it's a runner-up, but he wasn't really. That was kind of Tigers. The galleries were pulling form super, super hard. He had a bad impression. Yeah, it wasn't a near miss Was that this when Sergio couldn't pull the trigger the waggle situation of Bethpage? Yeah, okay 2000 bell south classic fill one shortened to three rounds You guys know who who the runner up was I Don't

Gary Nicholas Really The amateurs I don't. Gary Nicholas. Really? The amateur. So that's on the course. I wanna go through some off the course stuff between that 2000 to 2003 window. The first thing I wanna talk about is in August of 2000, fill places a $20,000 bet on the Baltimore Ravens that's right.

At 22 to one to win the Super Bowl, Baltimore goes on the Baltimore Ravens at 22 to 1 to win the Super Bowl. Baltimore goes on to win the Super Bowl and Phil collects $440,000. That Ravens team shout out Trent Dillford. Shout out Ray Lewis. Shout out Whiteman Cotes. Ed Reid.

I was Ed Reid. No, that was pre, was that pre-edrig? I think that was firmly at re. Yeah, that was at re. Yeah. Shout out the club and... Well, that was the next year. That was the next year.

Yeah, it was the co-bolt launch. Okay. I thought it was the year before and then he goes on to win the Super Bowl hold on. Well, please. While you look that up, let me, let me, in April of 2001, Phil claims to have correctly bet on Duke to win the NCAA championship.

I could not find he employed me whether some of the most successful betters I've ever seen, you know, they just I see so many winning tickets. Well and Vegas Dave. Yeah, that's right. Vegas Dave. How does he do it? Wales only Phoenix Phil. And in the spring of 2001, he places another $20,000 bet on the

Arizona Diamondbacks to win the 2001 World Series at 38 to 1. They go on to win the World Series. He collects $760,000. That's really $10. This is the most Phil thing ever, by the way, not to publicize these things. To make sure he has to pay taxes on it. He doesn't care about the actual money. It's just flexing on people that he won the bets. Also, what he did mention was he bet 60 grand on the Orioles to win the House Air. That was Randy Johnson in Kurt Schilling. Well, that's why I was going to say,

Tron's deep in research now with the Ray Lewis stuff. But of course, the 2001 World Series was monumental for Kurt Schilling Dutch Boeing sock. That was, no, no, no, so he, no, he Dutch boy is sock with the red socks. No, oh one was the Yankees and, oh that's right. Yeah, yeah.

So the Schilling was all on the nine of us. I was the big unit in Schilling. Yeah. You know what, pay attention, come on. Try it back in class. I'm so, I'm so ashamed, I, hold on. Put your personal device away, it's a card.

I'm trying to find the right device. I have a feeling like chilling in, and Mikkelson, those guys seem like they must have gotten along when he was playing for the nine backs. Or they could have been just to like, to Alpha for each other to hang out. Fair, you know. What year was the Super Bowl they could see?

The one could see. It could go out of 2000, was the murder. Yeah, so it happened a year before, that's why I was when Ray Lewis won the Super Bowl, was like, very polarizing for this guy. Yeah, so it happened in the year before. That's why I was when Ray Lewis won the Super Bowl. It was like very polarizing for this guy. Yeah. Phil, you know those Twitter characters? Very polarizing.

They came out in the World Cup that just like tweeted a million different scenarios that could happen and then deleted all the ones that didn't happen. So like the Twitter feed was like, oh, penalty coming in the 91st minute and everyone's like, see, it's all fixed. That's Phil with Bettek. He bets on everything and then shows you his winning ticket.

Yeah, a lot of things. It's kind of sick. So in October of 2001, his second daughter, Sophia, is born and also in 2001, the lower course at Whisper Rock opens to a lot of accolades. It's Phil Mickelson's first design venture. He worked with Gary Stevenson. In 2002. I don't think I knew that. In 2002, this is where we start. I feel like this is a big transition. This is a big shift in the life of the person. Yeah. He's talking about the Bob Hope

Chrysler Classic when he beats David Bruggani or Junior in a playoff? No, but that is noteworthy. I'm talking about in September of 2002. And Bruggani was still claiming that broken heart as a major medical. I'm talking about in September of 2002 when he signs a multi-year deal with Ford,

which is one of the most amazing, inexplicable sponsorships I've ever seen in the world of golf. A left chest deal, too. Like this is big with the Nike swooshes, you're filled with it. Do you remember those like four XL shirts? Yeah, they're kind of like brown, yellow, off gold shirts with the Ford logo. With no collar. They're not.

Like the mock turtle neck. Yeah. So let's go to 2030 now. With like the shiny black pants. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,all went toe to toe to toe when you're right. Well, that was the idea. I would love to hear Phil explain why did that sponsorship? We all know it's because they rolled up a you haul with money in it, but he'd be like, you know, I took a F-150 for a test drive and I,

you know, you'd have like some like really long. It's American made. Yeah, he'd have some logical like rambling answer that would make a lot of sense, but then be like that's not true. It would be this way So you know Rick Smith like I Rick Smith's bag. Yeah, do you know Rick Rick Wilson? Yeah, so I met him at this function He introduces me to Steve Steve Bartholomew over here who runs this foundation and that's how I met the guy from Ford Yeah, and they're really doing some great stuff with these cars.

Yeah. Stabila track, you know. So, February 2003 is where he's quoted as saying he takes, he pokes the cat. He, Tiger, hates that I can fly it past him now. I'm quoting Michelson. He has a faster swing speed than I do, but he has inferior equipment. Tigers, the only player who's good enough to overcome the equipment he stuck with. This was an interview Phil gave to Golf Magazine. He went on to say, I'm thrilled with my titleist equipment

and proud to represent the company, but I'm sorry, he gets blowback from this. Do you guys remember? Oh, yes. Which like, even hearing it again, it's like, that wasn't even a diss to Tiger. It's like, hey dude, you're better than me. Like I just have really good equipment.

Yeah. Everyone's like, oh my god, he a slam Tiger was like, he literally said Tiger is way better than me. Right. He just a tons a little tough. I can't believe you'd sign that deal. What's a diss on like the equipment company more than in his Tiger? But the equipment company's paying tiger to yeah

It's also the I don't think it was known as a favor to tiger Maybe the first example of of a hashtag hitting bombs With Philip ironically, oh three he didn't even win no it's it's it's It's a bad year and we're gonna get it's a fair equipment. Well, we're gonna get into that So he he kind of walks back to Stamie says I'm thrilled with my title as equipment, Prouder, I present the company, but my remark was absolutely not intended as a knock on any other manufacturer, which I don't know how that you got to remember this is before golf is intent based. Well, it sounds a lot like the Watson press conference at 2014's. Oh, I'm sorry,

you took it that way. No, that's not what I meant. I didn't take that mean that as a shot of Mr. Watson. Yeah. Like March 2003, his son, Evan is born, and this is, I think this goes a long way to why his 2003 season was not good. Very difficult pregnancy. Michelson would later say he, his son, didn't breathe for seven minutes and had the emergency nurses not been there with the equipment ready. He might have had some severe brain damage or other circumstances. It was also a touch and go for his wife. He said we were two or three minutes away from losing her, Michelson said. So very traumatic, obviously experienced during the pregnancy there, which I think.

That's 2003. That's 2003, which I think goes into why, 2003 was more or less a lost year on the course forum. Makes sense. So we roll into 2004. Everybody's healthy, everybody's happy. Presumably, he wins his first start of the season at the Bob Hope Beats skip Kendall

And we roll into Augusta now over 46 in majors and I think this is where he's firmly You know has the mantle of best player to never win a major and where are you this week? I am in Hilton Head, South Carolina. I am a sophomore at Washington and Lee. We are on spring break. We have rented a house with some other people. Your family or your friends? Friends, friends.

College spring break. And he shoots a final round 69, including a 31 on the back nine to win by a shot over Ernest L's get some back for that boys 13 14 championship that L's got Nipton on of course shot three consecutive 69s. Yeah, yeah birdies 18. Obviously follows it with the infamous leap I followed his leap with my own leap. I ran out the back of our rented house and jumped into like that lagoon. If you've ever been held in head,

there's a lagoon. Yeah, I was gonna say. Well, I was a little inebriated and I was just out there like celebrating and the neighbor comes out and he's like, Hey man, you should really get out of there. They're, you know, they're alligators all around. I said, okay, yeah, you're probably right.

So I climbed out of the lagoon and it was just euphoric. And I was in the new world at that point. Well, and I was thinking about, you know, why do I love Phil Mickelson so much, which you asked me at the beginning was, I, the teams I really care about, the Cincinnati Reds, one world series Series when I was six years old and I didn't really have much of an appreciation for it. Phil Meckleson winning the Masters was really the only time a team I've, or an individual I've deeply cared about, has won a title. And so I think it was just a monumental like moment of my own fandom

when that putt went in. It was very joyous. Congratulations. It was very cool. Is it as time? Great dance call. While it's on the way. Is it as time?

Yes, at long last. All of America was rooting for him. And if you look at the, if you watch that replay, just the absolute jubilation around that green. Yeah. It's a real, very real thing. Randy, any of your friends on spring break,

where they as invested as you are like, none of them, or were they like, why is golf on? No, they were, they were watching, but none of them were invested. I remember they, we got like a 12 pack of corona. That's what we were drinking. Under, only, only, only a 12 pack of corona. That's what we were drinking. Under age, only a 12 pack. Pfft.

I got you drunk enough to jump in the lagoon with Gators. Anybody else have any gay, oh four masters memories? My girlfriend dumped me that morning. Really? Yeah. I remember that. That was not a setup.

I did not know that. That's it. Sorry. And I remember that because after he made the putt, she texted me like, oh my God, did you see that? How crazy was that? I was like, are we getting back together? I don't know.

That's all happening. They're so big of a set, get us back together. We did not. I do remember that though. It's not you, it's me. It was me. So I want to roll forward to June. The Shinokak, US Open.

Fill three puts from five feet to make double on the 71st hole. It'll cause to drop from a tie to two back. Cuff scene. He would lose to Riteef Gooson by two shots. Shout out to the Yes putter. Yeah, that's another heartbreaking US open run. That's the same term he made the double on number seven,

where they lost the green. The Goose is an interesting character. I don't... Definitely. I feel like I know anything about. The Goose was a killer there for a little while. He was. He kind of came on the scene and then left just as quickly,

but he's kind of been killing on the Champions Tour. Well, We talked about I forget I don't know for any said it that a US open W gets you like auto killer status I mean got had like two and three years. So it was Lee Johnson the the jackal then is it like one of you like a tear drop tattoo He was just there for the second. Yeah. Cats got the three-tier job. That, too. So that's in June.

In September, Phil signs an endorsement deal with Calaway after ending his titleist deal 16 months early. Word comes out the previous fall. 2003, Phil took heat from Tylus after he phoned a Calaway rep who had helped his brother with equipment. Supposedly, Calaway played the voicemail Phil left for him at its National Salesman meeting. Sick! Oh I didn't know that. So we're going back to Tyleus. Tyleus was less than pleased. They agreed to terminate the contract

16 months early. That's September 2004. Also on September 2004, two weeks later, Phil goes to the rider count where Captain Hal Sutton pairs he and Tiger together in two matches. They lose both. They lost in four ball to Monti and Padre, two and one. And then they lost in all shot to Darren Clark and Westwood. Clark and Westwood bogey 18 and still beat Tiger and Phil. Phil said about the experience later, quote, in alternate shot, you play with one ball. And that was the issue, Michelson said.

Tiger found out the year before when we played at the Presidents Cup, that the golf ball I was playing was not gonna work for him. He plays a very high spin ball, and I play very low spin ball. We had to come up and we had to come up in two days with a solution. So I grabbed a couple dozen of his balls. I went off to the side and I tried to learn his golf ball in a four or five hour session

on kind of an isolated one of the other holes out there trying to find out how far the ball goes. And it forced me to stop my preparation for the tournament, to stop chipping, stop putting, and stop sharpening my game, and stop learning the golf course. In the history of my career, I've never ball tested two days prior to a major. I've never done it. It doesn't allow me to play my best.

What allows me to play my best is to learn the course, sharpen my touch on the green, sharpen my chipping out of the rough, and ball striking, and so forth. Instead, I'm taking four or five hours and I'm out trying to learn another ball to allow us to play our best. Had we known a month in advance, we might have been able to make it work. I think we probably would have made it work, but we didn't know until two days prior. This is where Phil comes back to. I'm not trying to knock anybody here. No offense to anyone. I actually loved how decisive Captain Sutton was. I feel like that's a sign of great leadership to be decisive.

Had we had time to prepare? I think we would have made it work and could have had some success. Apparently it was so bad. He was struggling with the ball so bad that he didn't want to do it on the South course anymore. So he went to the North course. It's like hide away from all the fans trying to figure out the golf ball.

I'm like, that's how bad. But his game was also not in good shape, I think at that point, and try to learn the golf ball, but it was so far off the planet that he didn't want to do it in front of fans. Isn't that kind of alpha that, like, without even any conversation, he just accedes to the cat's ball? Well, yeah. That means the cat. I'm pretty sure.

Cat, we playing's ball. Well, yeah. That means the cat. I'm freaking. Yeah, we playing my ball. I'm all kidding. But the interesting thing and all of that was, you know, so much has made a field deciding to change equipment sponsors, but it was kind of a retreat. I for one support to move. I think he couldn't have made a better decision.

There was some conjecture too as to whether, you know, Vegas played a role in it, some potential accounts payable. Perhaps. I was hoping that would come up. I have tried to source that back to something, and I just wonder if that's one of those golf rumor things that just became truth, and I've never been able to get it.

Like, hey, of course, it's hard to get somebody to go on the record, but that was the case, that it was gambling debts that were part of the reason. I'm sure that was a factor in his decision-making and wanting money sponsored. I have no idea, but I can't get that. That's just kind of became one of those lower things along with a few other golf rumors.

I was gonna say there are a couple, but I was gonna say shout out to Michael Jordan. Yeah, they're just like out there that are not, there's no basis effect. I can't find any basis effect. I'm not saying it's not true. I just don't know if it is as factual as people make it out to me.

Yeah. November of that year, Phil shoots a 59 at the PGA Grand Siamlet Golf. It's the lowest score in competition. Is that considered an official 59? Yeah. Is it? Yeah.

Let's go to our Bermuda expert, Neil. For sure. Yeah. I mean, the tour, it's a competition. A official 50-day competition. It's an official competition. Yeah. It might not be like a tour 59, but it's a competitive 59.

Well, it's like Billy Mitchell said in King of Cotton. You know, let me know what he does if he gets to it. Yeah, well that's true. Matters. Listen, that's fair. Uh, as unofficial tournaments and minor tours, that's where it's listed. So there's a lot of, a lot more of those.

So he has not listed on the Wikipedia page as PGA tour 59s. Those 59 fit. So Fierrix 58, Guy Berger, Chipback, DuVal, Goidos, Applebee, Fieryka, Ken, JT, Adam Hadwin, Brandt Snettaker, Kevin Chappell. Those are your 59s and PGA tour history. I don't even know, like half of those did show up 59. The unofficial ones for the PGA tour, Shigeki Mariamma's 58 in the US Open Qualifying Round. David Gossett had a 59 at Q school,

Phil Mickelson's at the PGA Grand Slam of Golf and Harrison Frazier at Qualifying School Tournament. Imagine going to Q school and somebody shooting in the 50s. Well, I was gonna say, what if you run into a 58 at US Open Qualif? I'm gonna say that. That's been one of the weird, I'm gonna go with them.

One of the weird, you know, big moments to topple during our golf lifetime. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like when that, who's in the 60-barrier? Yeah, I mean, Duval was kind of like the most recent one I remember when I was younger. And then- Remember being a big deal?

Yeah, then who's after Duval? Applebee? There was one of Furex. I don't know. Anyways, but yeah, now it's like I don't have one shot fit. Yeah, you don't have to go live. That's no idea. I don't have a shot of 58. Yeah, had to listen.

A Quinta or the Bob Ho. Yeah, whatever. Applebee did it at the military tribute. It's true. It means even more there. That's true. It was the Greenbauer Classic at the time. Well, no, it's people forget. A military tribute. Strikers. It means even more there. That's true. It was the Greenbauer Classic at the time. Well, no, it's a military tribute. It's Trickershot 60 the day. Goido Shafi. It's always been a military

tribute in some form. Yeah, it's just like, you know, you look at Phil's, Phil's wins. Did Phil, like Phil won the new sponsor, Phil won the ROW. So Phil is technically won the Mexico championship No one to a throughout. So he so Phil is technically one the Mexico championship twice now. So Guy Berger did it in 77, chip back did it in 91, Duval 99. So Duval was third and then Goidos and Apple be both at it in 10.

And then Fierrick did it in 13. Fierrick's might be the goat. Oh yeah, 59. Cause the field like he beat everyone by like, at least seven or something that day. Yeah. The kid was on site that day. I watched it.

It was fun. About that. Yeah. So let's roll to 2005. Phil wins three times early in the year. He wins out of Phoenix. He wins at Pebble and he wins the Bell South in Atlanta. I don't know when exactly this happened, but in 2005, he partners with Exxon Mobile.

He and his wife Amy launched the Michelson Exxon Mobile teaching Academy. The STEM initiative. Exactly. Shout out to science, which I think TC is that would. That was commercial. We win the STEM Academy at that time. No, absolutely not.

But those commercials, they were, they played on loop during the masters. Yeah. I'd also like to give a shout out to the Bell South Classic. That year as well, it was shortened to a 54-hole event. He beat Argen Atwell, Rich Beam, Branch Obe, and Jose Maria Ola Thouble. That's a great stable of runner-ups there. So April, we go to the masters and I had forgotten about this. I want to remind you, after the first round, this is from a New York Post report, has the New York Post has learned citing multiple sources who are eyewitnesses that VJ Singh and Phil Mickelson were involved in an explosive incident yesterday that escalated into

an animated shouting match that nearlyated into an animated shouting match that nearly evolved into blows exchanged inside the Augusta National Champions locker room. I don't think I know about this. I'm sorry. It's explosive is such a New York post descriptor. Yeah. The story goes, sing, the number one ranked player in the world, which, you know, that's kind of- Because he was a complete minute at that time.

Delivered what one player called, quote, a completely classless move of, quote, clear gamesmanship when he complained to a master's referee about Michelson's spikes early and yesterday's completion of the first round. Sing, playing in the group behind Michelson, summoned a referee at the twelfth hole where he was playing at the time and complained that Michelson's spikes were leaving large spike marks in the green. The referee then caught up with Michelson's group after they teed off on 13 and conveyed things complaint to Michelson. According to an eyewitness, the referee told Michelson another official was going to be sent

out to file down his spikes, causing one of Michelson's playing partners to steward Apple B2CRAC. What are they going to send? A blacksmith. The report goes on the official with a file was never sent out and Michael Sins continued playing in his own size 12 callow issues. The official said, catch me outside.

How long? So according to by centers, Michael Sins remain calm, outwardly calm throughout this odd inquiry. But according to twocenter's, Micheal Sinnerman calm outwardly calm throughout this odd inquiry. But according to two sources, the scene complaint infuriated Micheal Sin, the defending master's champ and later led to what One Bycenter termed a serious altercation between the two top players inside the locker room. Whoa, I have not heard that.

Kind of side with VJ on this one. Yeah, yeah, I remember grinding my feet on the guss' screens. Failure spikes are too big. I will say one player, the New York Post story, says one player who requested anonymity was shocked by saying, saying, quote, you never do something like that in the middle of a round. That's something you take up with the player after the round is over. After you've ever already just like three puts. Yeah.

Uh, yeah, I think I'm, I might be team VJ on this one. There was some, yeah, there's some abusive abuse of spike marks, uh, or cleats in this, in this era. TC has a metal spike. I what do you, how do you feel? I can only play metal spikes when it's approved by the course. That's the T.C. He's erring the greens for them.

Unfortunately, that was kind of the end of that incident. That we know of. That we know of. They didn't beat each other up or anything. That we know of. So August is, August of that year, 2005, he wins the second major the PGA Championship of BoltisRoll, goes wired wires, shares the lead in each of the rounds.

Wasn't there skiing accident at some point? Do we miss that? You know, I don't have a skiing accident in my notes. Okay, we can take that out. If I could have one of my researchers look into that. I'm gonna turn the calendar to 2006. Does anybody remember the 2005 PGA? Baldisraw Monday Finnish. Do you remember it? I do. No, happening now.

I like it could have been a simulation. I know what you're getting at. Well, I was glued because again, I'm a big fan, but... He broke his legs skiing and flagstaff in 1994, broke his legs skiing and flagstaff in 1994, corn in New York Times. Which, a moment from O5 that kind of gets lost to history is before he goes to hit his approach into the 18th green at Baltic Roll, he goes over and taps Jack Nicholas's plaque,

and then misses the green. Well, I remember him battling Elk. Elk was right in there. Oh, five was also just going to your personal history. And this will be a Cardinals quarterback later on. It was the year that Carson Palmer got his leg broken by Kimobano Lovato. Yeah, that was tough. That was a tough scene. So 2006 in March, I found this interesting.

At D'Areal, he hit a fan with his ball, broke the person's watch and he gave him $200. April, he wins the the Bell South. 13 struck should victory. 13 shot victory had two drivers in the bag. That was a beautiful. I think that might have been hold on. Let me see what the last year was. I might have been the Bell. Let me see what the last year was. Am I the best? I think the best. The best. This is a two more years.

Zach Johnson won the next year of a Ryuji Amata in the worst playoff ever. TBC Sugar Loaf first. And then Ryuji Amata won the following year. That was TBC Sugar Loaf over Kenny Perry. Your boy. There we go. But yeah, Phil wanted minus 28.

Forever putting to bed, the phrase, if you have two drivers, do you really have one? Yeah, exactly. Well, so he takes the two drivers. Sorry, what was the point of the two drivers? Well, he takes the two drivers in the bag at Augusta, and the reasoning is, one is, he didn't want to change his swing. So he said he can make the same swing with each driver,

and one was like an inch shorter and promoted a fade. And one was longer and with the same swing promoted a draw. I was actually playing two drivers at the same time. I was like, which looks like for like three years. God, that makes way more sense than trying to draw a painted driver. So yeah, the reason was he could make the same swing and the ball would react differently. What did he take out?

Do we know? I don't know exactly what club can imagine. He's taken wedges out at Augusta. I think it was three. I don't think he had a three, but maybe three. I don't know what whole he would hit. He went from driver to driver, driver to driver, and then two iron, but he could hit one of the drivers

really well off the ground too. So he wins, it worked for him. He wins the Masters. Second green jacket. He's now won two majors in a row and we go to the US Open in June of 2006. A win at the US Open. He would join Tiger, Jack and Ben Hogan as the only people to win three consecutive majors in the modern era.

The final round, he held a two stroke lead after the 15th hole on Sunday at Wingfoot. He bogged 16 and he parred 17. He has a one shot lead standing on the 72nd hole to win three majors in a row. Of course, I don't have to tell you guys what happened next. You can if you want. It was just absolutely crushing. Loads his drive, Felix Bobgarner. Way left.

Up coming home. Left of left. Tries to hit it. Unbelievable recovery. Doesn't, I just, I don't want to. I don't feel that bad for him for that one. I feel bad for Monty People forget

That's fairway. Yeah, people forget Jim Furik bogey 18 to miss a potential playoff by one shot Oh, he made a mega up and down the Lonty double 18 and chip said I thought he chipped in on 18. Oh, good. He's hit a mega nippy. I think you just hit it up to be close Michelson would be quoted in Alan ship next post game piece is saying quote I'm still in shock that I just did that. I can't believe I just did that. I'm such an idiot It was crushing I gotta, it was absolutely crushing. Did you cry?

No, I didn't cry. I just remember it was just like just numbness. I remember watching that and when he hit the drive off the hospitality tent, I was like, whoa, sick. Like this is awesome. And then as progressively as the whole is when I was like, oh, this sucks. Like every shot, I was like, oh no.

Like, I was like, oh, he's gonna get a trouble. Like he's gonna be fine. And then I was like, oh my god, He blew it. I think what made worse my brother-in-law you guys know him Is like the biggest Tiger Woods fan and so just like the text messages and yeah good bars piece shit Reef I got in the way what did any it you see where he hit it? What was he doing? Because that was your dad over there he wins that he, he's on Tigers level at that point in time. Like he almost surpasses Tiger as like, yo, it's, he's the captain now. It would have been what, three in a row.

Is he though? I, uh, Ogovy Chippen on 17, I apologize for the error. I don't think he's surpassing Tiger. At that moment in time, I think, absolutely. And he'd be holding three absolutely. In the powering. He'd be holding three majors. Three belts concurrently. I've got a gun.

Going for the slam at the open. Where was the open, you know, six? Was that a little boy like, oh, what like, okay. And then the cat resources himself. Yeah. So, exactly. Nothing much to report the rest of 2006, 2007. Did you make the cut at the open at Huelic?

I didn't write that in my notes. I think he did, but he wasn't competitive. E, let's see. O6, E, Tiger, Mystic Point. Tiger, Mystic Cut at O6. This was Raptors Dad died horribly unprepared, but yeah. So he would want three in a row and and Tigers coming off an MC. I agree. I think power ranking wise. I'm not saying that the career is match, but at that point in time, I think, Michelson's the new, like he's the new athlete. Yeah, maybe a dumb question.

Was he number one in the world up to this point? Never. Never has ever made a good move. That's what I was supposed to do. We'll touch on that a little bit, but yeah. So 2007 he switches coaches. Yeah. Never played that a little bit, but yeah. So 2007 he switches coaches. Never played the year, never, never won. Yeah, he drops Rick Smith and goes to Butch Harmon.

And that's an April in May. He wins the players. Did we ever get into apologies if you don't have it in your notes, but I've always been curious how him and Rick Smith got together? I don't know much about Rick Smith. I think Rick Smith. And his association with Phil. I don't have that. I don't know much about Rick Smith. I think Faxx until the story of like he worked with Rick Smith and Smith was famous for on the range.

Like, somebody, you hit a bad shot and then like you go ahead and other one and you hit it well, and Rick Smith was big. Oh, that was better. No offense to Rick Smith. No offense. No offense. Uh, 2008, I found this interesting. He was a great guy.

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2008, I found this interesting. He was inducted into the National Italian-American Sports Hall of Fame. Good on to you. Can we go back to him one of the players? Sure. Do you think that's the most unlikely victory of his career? Well, the British or I was going to say, or the British, or the British. I was gonna say that or the British open. But yes, it was tremendously unlikely. It makes it unlikely, what do you mean? The user wearing the, the turtleneck, the mock turtleneck.

Well, it's, it's just such a precise golf course. Off the tee. Like you can't spray the ball, you can't. Essentially any, it's not a good course set up for fills type of mistakes where you know if you miss wide usually that means you're in the water at Sawgrass. Or if you go for a flag that like you get your hand caught in the cookie jar you're probably not getting it up and down. Well that interestingly enough that

I think it was the first year they switched to May and I would think his game would be better for March. Like, the overseas is easier to hit out of, I think, than like Spungy Bermuda. I don't remember exactly how that course played in the first time in May, but not. Interesting. Even he himself later on, like, he missed the cut a couple of years ago, and I was like, how did I make these? Yeah, he's, he's, he's made it the same. Shit, when he said, I'm going to skip it. Yeah.

Years ago. Yeah, he's he's made it the same shit when he said I'm gonna skip it Years like a guy gets us in the whole like fill 3.0 with the last few years Yeah, so June 2008 He finishes tied for 18th at the US open the only thing I wanted to bring to the group's attention was He did not carry a driver in his bag He would later years later say quote that was a mistake. I'm a Frank.

It's feel like King of the over correct. I can would is yeah you're right. It was now recently. It's like okay I'm getting old. Well guess what I'm just going to try to hit it as far as I can. It's like no not you're getting old. Yeah it's a complete over correct for no reason. Randy which northern trust revier of victory was it oh eight or nine where the guy rolls down the hill. Yeah, it's a complete over-correct for no reason. Randy, which northern trust Riviera victory? Was it 0809 or the guy rolls down the hill?

That's later. He didn't win that. That was a year of Bill Haas one. Casey, you're taking us out of chronological. I thought it was 0809. I was going to go back to you. You went back to back at Rick. You got to go back.

Hey, raise your hand if you want to ask a question in this class. I'm sitting right next to the teacher. Otherwise, pipe down. So the not carrying a driver in the bag, he would later say that that was it. Yeah. And he would say, quote, what a great idea that was. I'm going to play with a three wood. And then I miss the fairways with the three wood.

That was ridiculous. That didn't work out. Which again is where I like, why do I like him? He's honest. He, you know, he... December 2008. Is he? I know, I know.

Like he seems honest. Maybe honestly he's the fool to solve it thinking he was honest for so long. He's honest about certain things. He says interesting things. Yeah, I don't know if that's the safest big honest. December, Stevie Williams is quoted in the Tara Nakie Daily News as saying he wouldn't call Mickles in a great player quote because I think he's a bleep. I don't know. I don't know what word he was

intimating except it's an expletive. What a trash rag. Non-class act. In an interview the next day with another New Zealand news favorite the Sunday star times Williams confirmed making the comment and said it was no secret that they don't get along Tiger kind of scolded Stevie publicly and you know that was That was the oh Michelson after seeing That was the, oh, Mikkelson, after seeing Mikkelson would say, after seeing Steve Williams comments, all he could think of was how lucky I am to have a classic like bones on my bag and representing me. Those are the moments, God, those are the moments he lives.

That's what he's at his best. What he's like, he's playing chess, like, classic chess, basically. Yeah. Just like, I know what you think of it as a, I'm going chess, like class act chess, basically. Yeah. Just like, I know what you think of it as a, I'm gonna take like a cartoonish high road. Was there ever, because I think we're probably out of that time frame. Was there ever a tournament or a juncture where he could have ascended to number one? God, TC, I couldn't have fed you a better question to ask me. In March 2009, Mikkelsen closes to within 0.52 points of Tiger in the official world golf

ranking. Which equates to what? Essentially, you would threaten to pass them for the number one ranking for the first time. Essentially, I think... Sorry, this is when? March 2009. So after the cat's been on it.

The mega layoff. Exactly. Which plays a part into it. Essentially, it came down to like, if Tiger misses a cut, in like one week, if Phil were to win and Tiger were to miss a cut, he would have passed him. Who would have had a massive asterisk? And I thought.

Because it's crazy how many tigers on this? Tigers on a shell for like eight months, wasn't he? He should, he should have gone to Europe. Well, and I think somebody, if you have those things that Japan, if you have filled season by season, I believe in March 2009, Michelson Tiger came back at Bay Hill. It was that one week where if Tiger MCs at Bay Hill and Phil does really well in his next tournament, which I believe was the shell Houston, they would have flipped and Tiger wins

Bay Hill and Phil missed the cut it. He's the guy. See you there, motherfucker. Buddy had a class act like bones on the bag at least. Right. May 2009, Amy Michelson was diagnosed with breast cancer and Phil suspends his PGA tour schedule to be with her through treatment. He only made two starts between May and August of that year, which was the US Open in the

week prior to the US Open, whereas two starts. Which that US Open, he tied the lead on Sunday on the 67th hole at Beth Page and then promptly misses a short birdie on the 68th hole, three puts the 69th hole, and eventually finishes two shots back at Lucas Glover. Tough scene. It's the toughest. And don't forget Dave,

Dave DeWall was up there too. Yeah, I know. Which was a no-day finish. I don't remember miserable tournament because of the weather. The weather is like when did the Monday finish? Is that a Chinatown? No, Beth Page. That was Beth Page again. But it was just all these guys, and It was like, no, Beth Pales, Beth Pales again.

But it was just all these guys, and I'm like, God, I just want Phil or David of all the wind, and they're just slow bleeding out. Yeah. Lucas Glover turns out he's a great guy, but, you know, but it's not who anybody was. We didn't know that at the time, yeah. Although he was, I think, didn't someone say

the last section of qualifier to win? I believe so. Yeah, I think that didn't someone say the last section qualifier to win. I believe so. Yeah, I think that's right. July 2009, Phil's mother Mary is diagnosed with breast cancer. Phil pulls out of the British open to be with her. Wins the tour championship that September. And then we roll into 2010 January. Scott McCaring comes after him.

Blast Phil Mickelson for cheating because Phil uses a square grooved ping-i-2 wedge at Tory Pines. We McCarran of all people's class. Michaelson for cheating. McCarran would say, quote, it's cheating and I'm a Paul Fillis put it in play. If I can set the stage for you, Phil,

was among four players at Tori using a Ping-I 2 wedge that was made 20 years ago and has square grooves. Such grooves are now banned on the PJ tour because of the new USGA regulation that says irons have to have V shaped grooves. But that was a sick wedge. The square groove. One of those for a while. Pink wedges remain legal because a lawsuit that pingfiled against the USGA that was settled in 1990 under the terms any ping-i-2 made before April 1st, 1990 remains approved because it takes precedence

over any rule change. Wow. He was using a 20 year old wedge. Yeah. And on the PGA tour. Yeah, can't you just pick your phone. Well, let me explain to you why. So what happened was Carson so high. Yeah. In the people

versus USG. Yeah. Well, and Michelson would say, quote, it's a terrible rule to change something that is this kind of loophole is nuts, Michelson said, but it's not up to me or any other player to interpret what the rule is or the spirit of the rule. I understand black and white. And I think that me or any other player to interpret what the rule is or the spirit of the rule. I understand black and white and I think that myself or any other player is allowed to play those clubs because they're approved. End of story. So I think this was almost Michelson like needling like how dumb it all was. This is where I think we start to live in the performance

art. Yes. And this is to set the stage. So now I believe both Phil and Solair team KPMG at this point, is that right? Yes, we are on the same team at this point. So I have to recluse myself from this conversation. That was at Tori, early February, Michelson's taken the wedge out of place. What, he's made us from 2010? 2010, let's move that as up the house.

March 2010, Michsen allegedly transfers nearly 3 million to Gregory Silvira, a former sports gambling handicapper, acting as a conduit for an offshore gambling operation. Silvira would plead guilty in 2015 to three counts of money laundering of funds from quote an unnamed gambling client. Multiple sources identified that client to be Phil Michelson. 3.5 million. It was like 2.75 million. Sheesh.

You got to remember this isn't 2010 though. So it's that's $20.10. It's post recession. April 2010, he would win his third green jacket. It's a win for the family. Yeah, that's exactly right. That was Nancy's call because of the breast cancer stuff the year before.

And it was just a jab at Tiger. Oh, that's true. I didn't forgot about that. That's right. That was Tiger's first master's back after the escalator. He burned the 70 second hole on that one. That's where he went up against Westwood and Freddie was in the mix. Phil would not win. He didn't have any more tour wins the rest of 2010. But in August of 2010, he announced he had been diagnosed with psoriasis arthritis

and he had plans to go vegetarian in hopes to aid the treatment. That's at the end of 2010. I remember this is preamberal. I tweeted something about this the other day. That's at the end of 2010. You know what I remember? This is pre-embral. I tweeted something about this the other day. But I remember this doctor friend of mine was talking about this. He's like, dude, you would not believe when all those fucking commercials came out at that time.

Every like 50 to 70 year old man within 100 miles of the hospital would come in with like a sore knee and be like, yeah, I'm pretty sure I got this psoriatic arthritis thing. So I need that, I need that end brawl stuff that Phil was talking about. I got the arthritis, man.

That's what it is. So if you could just prescribe me with that, like no, you're just old. No, that's not what it is. Well, in the spring of 2011, Phil officially begins a campaign for Amgen Pfizer as a paid endorser for end brawl, the drug to treat Soriatic arthritis.

That's the commercial right where he puts the, puts the rake back and grabs the back. Looks like he's got that beat some kids at the last five of all time. What's that enough guard being left with this kid's hands now? I'm just fine. I can't do kick-talk. 2011 T2 at the2 at the British Open? Well, I want to take you to January of 2011. T.C. Goddamn it, man. Raise your hand.

Torrey Pines. He trails bubble-wats and by two shots on 18. Oh, Neatz Eagle. Has bones go up and tend the flag on a 72 yard wedge shot. Explaining to this, Sige and Michelson saidelson said quote when I get a wedge shot from 72 yards I usually fly within a yard 95% of the time I remember that at the time you're like 95% of the time It's a fact and he was trying to fly a pass and spin it back. Well, he wanted to give you two chances

One one to fly into the hole directly and then one on the spin back. And that's why I wanted bones to tend it on the spin back. And bones tells that story. That's all stuff. He was looking, I think this is right, the same hole. He's looking back into the sun and he's terrified. He's going to get hit by the ball as he goes to tend the pin. I didn't think about that. He wedges it to like two and a half feet. That's a great shot.

It was a very good shot. But then he loses by one double watts and one that day. Back to Jerry. Yeah. April 2011 wins the shell he's an open. That was a really impressive win. I remember that.

He shots like 63 65 on the weekend. And you're like, oh man, he's prime. Yeah, I remember that too. That was when, wasn't he like way, he's way left on, got like up and down out of the trees. I don't know, I'll find the answer. I'm just gonna replace his ass off on the weekend. Yeah.

And you're like, oh man, like he's either gonna win the Masters by a million or he's gonna totally flame out cause he's blown his load this week. Right, which he didn't win them. He did not win the Masters. Shout out to Charles Schwarzel. July, as my associate TC said, finished time for second at the bridge open, where he briefly shared the final round lead after a front nine 30. That was the one Darren Clark would go on to win.

DJ hit his infamous shank out of bounds. So to give you a sense of fill at this time, he's the second highest pay, this is at the end of 2011, he's the second highest paid American athlete, he's earning about $62 million a year. 53 of those from endorsements. Four of you know a bit from the game.

I'm not gonna talk. So we have the gambling, that's a take home of like 26 million. Yeah. We roll into 2012. And this was maybe one of the more impressive wins of his career in February at the 18 T Pebble Beach program. Where he shoots a fine around 64.

He's paired with Tiger. He beats Tiger by 11 shots. I remember you getting really hostile with Good Bar paying it back. Yeah, the him. Charlie, we was runner up. That's right. That's exactly right.

Mikkelsen would say, quote, I just feel really inspired when I play with him talking about woods. And I know I have a class act on the back. I can't ever state how much that impact. And this is one that dynamic right, because he's working with Butch, and a lot's being made of like, oh Butch has given him the mental tips to be able to play with Tiger. And so this was, you know, he's starting to pay it off.

That's the year he does the thing with Romo. Or he hung out, Romo was Tiger's partner, and he got dinner with Romo the night before, and like Ramo didn't tell Tiger he was doing that So first fairway he does like real loud. Hey, hey Tony great time at dinner last night man And Tiger like looks back over at Tony like all pissed off. I couldn't believe he was Dining with the enemy. Yeah, remember Tiger's got a class act on the bag at this point as well. He does that's true Thank you the Byron Bell

Not no longer. I think that was 2010 only. During 2012, I don't know. DJ, you probably would know. He's deducted into the World Golf Hall of Fame. Sure. I don't know what time of year those usually. It was the week of the players, I believe. Okay. So like it was the kid was there as well. But he gave it and standing in the hall of fame. He was standing in the hall of fame. He gave an exceptional speech. He had put some really cool stuff in his locker. Had his ping pong paddles in his locker. Had a, I remember he had a plane in there just because he was like fascinated by.

He's an avid stuff. He's an avid flutter. Yeah, he's an avid flutter. So yeah. That was I think the last hall of fame in Duxchens here in my neighborhood too. It was fun. Peter, I think he got in as well.

Do the Arnie and Flemishelth around her? He has flown himself. He hopped in the cockpit and his private jet sometimes. Yeah, yeah. What was, what year did he fly home for something during the US Open and then come back? That's weird. We'll get there.

September of 2012, Mikkelsen, this is all, according to a sworn affidavit by Mikkelsen's business manager. Mikkelsen pays Billy Walters nearly $2 million to cover a debt related to, quote, sports gambling. That, this will come up later. We roll the calendar of 2013.

January of 2013, Phil causes a stir when he says publicly he will have to quote make drastic changes due to new California and US tax laws. He takes a lot of heat for this. Again, he's making about $63 million a year. Phil would later apologize for saying those things out loud and walk back his comments. We fast forward to 2020 though and Phil is moving from California to Florida. I think this was the time where he was doing when all the like, you know, paying under the table for the gambling stuff when he was doing like the weird press conferences where he was just there. I remember one so vividly where everybody

could see him from the media center standing out at his parked car with Steve Lloyd, and I think maybe Bones, and they were just standing there like his press conference was supposed to start at like 11, or whatever, and it was like 11.25, and he's just literally standing 50 yards from the media center, just standing there talking, like clearly like going over like fuck, like what are we about to go say there?

And all the media is basically just like peering through the window at it like taking pictures and like what's he gonna say they comes at it it's just like oh yeah like kind of you know slow news week what's going on guys and he tries to be all kind of like very charming and I don't know I'm sure it worked February of that year 2013 he lifts out a putt on 18 at TPC Scott still for what would have been a 59 in the opening round He does go on to win the tournament June we go to the US open at Marion. I believe this was when he flew home early in the week for a graduation Sorry, what was the year though that the FBI picked him up for questioning this would be at the memorial This would be the late because all that stuff comes out publicly. I believe in 2015.

Okay. Got you. Yeah. So 2013. I forgot about that too. Mr. Mabelson, there's a special agent here. Yeah. US Open Marion Phil holds the 1836 and 54 whole leads.

On Sunday, he three puts three and five for double bogey. Then he holds the wedge on 10 for Eagle to get back in the lead. He was jostling with Mike Davis the whole week. He was supposed to be the par three. Yeah, the par three is 300 yards. You couldn't even get the T-box. Yeah, dude, because you weren't carrying a driver. Frank, is this Frank and what, isn't it?

I think he has a driver here. I think maybe the most critical mistake, more than his drive at Wingfoot was the air mail wedge on 13, which leads to bogey. That was probably like 105 yards, something. Yeah. So now he trails Rosie by one shot. Phil misses a birdie putt on 16, which was kind of his last shot.

He eventually finishes tied for second. This in 2013 is his sixth runner up at a US open. July 2013, he goes over to Scotland. He wins the Scottish open and then follows that up in 2013 with a funnel round 66 at Murirfield to win the British Open. Started the day five shots behind Lee Westwood, Phil Burdy 17 and 18. Bones would call the final round

the best of Michelson's career. Michelson would later say, quote, I played arguably the best round of my career and shot the round of my life. The range of emotions I feel are as far apart as possible after losing the US Open, but you have to be resilient in this game. I was remember here and after that, people like, I can't believe one of the players

was open. Like, he hits it too high. But then listening to this, he came in second the year before to Darren Clark. So it really wasn't like he was... You got to turn the corner at some point. I think his ball flight was at least adjustable at that point in his career He was able to flight it down and the knockin on him He's he would go over there and hit these flop shots

I'll try to hit these flop shots off the hard pan and finally kind of adapted the playing style required for that kind of golf course I mean his first act just started fitting him really well first nine or ten appearances He didn't he finished inside the top 25 one time and then he got it solo a third in 2004. It's looked like an outlier. Yeah, scuffled a lot more and then and then 11 13 16. Okay. Played well. Carry on. Thank you.

Yeah. No, that's, that's a great point. The last thing from 2013 that I want to point out is Mikkelsen's design company opens the Aqua Championship course at Kuhn Ming Shining Star International Sports Club in Kuhn Ming China. One of my favorite Mikkelsen designs. Well, I found a review on Planet Golf. It's exceptional. PlanetGolf.com. Shout out to Darius Oliver, correct? Bear with me here. I want to two two paragraphs from it, the opening and the closing. So the review says, short drive from the

UNAN capital of Kunming, the aquacourse, open in 2013, and what is design collaboration between Mikkelsen, his former coach Rick Smith and locally based American designer Joe Obringer. The final paragraph, I'll skip a lot of it, but it says, aside from the design itself, the shaping here at Ako was the most basic imaginable and the vegetation planting makes as little sense as some of the whole concepts.

The feeling of playing in a flat field through artificial mounting is one that we doubt connoisseurs will enjoy. Unquestionably, the best thing about the Ako experience is the caddies and their cutesy plaid plus four outfits. The 18th hole is the other highlight as it isn't awful and ends the suffering. Not sure what the Shining Star developer expected for the millions he paid Michelson's design company, but it had to be more than what was delivered. Aside from the Michelson name, there's nothing to get excited about here at all. So if you're in Kunming China, I would encourage you to check out the aquacourse.

Maybe they've shut it since I could say is it still there? Well, it's still on his website. So we got a 2014. He misses the cut at the masters for the first time since 1997. He misses the cut at the masters for the first time since 1997. In May of 2014, the Wall Street Journal reports the FBI and SEC investigating Phil and associates for insider trading in Chlorox stock. Michelson denies wrongdoing and later the investigation would find no evidence and be concluded without any charges. Total exoneration.

Perfect trades. In August, it's his only other, August 2014, it's his only top 10 of the season when he finishes second at the PGA. That was the one of Valhalla. Let me Valhalla at you. Yeah. Where they invite Rory. And I believe Rick, it was Ricky with Phil or it was Ricky. Ricky was with Phil. Yeah, they they invite Rory and I believe Rick or was Ricky with Phil or was Ricky was with Phil

Yeah, they were worried to play through because it's getting dark. I think Rory's out completely out with them Yeah, they did not fight them. They said I am playing through. Yeah, they might have mangled the end of that tournament Yeah, it's a weird look. I was sick. That was an awesome tournament though. It was it was a cool tournament That's a good major course. So 2014 is the only, it's the first season in 10 years that Phil doesn't win on tour, but he does play in the Ryder Cup that September. Yeah. Thank God.

And this is when he rips Tom Watson saying, no, it wasn't guy, it wasn't minute Tom Watson. You took it that way. You took it. Uh, quote, nobody here was in on any decision. Michelson said at one point and louded the system used earlier by Paul Azinger in 2008. Uh, Michelson quote, unfortunately, we have strayed from winning formula for the last three writer cups. We need to consider maybe getting back to that formula that helped us play our best. As the story goes, Watson ripped the team Saturday night, leaving everybody more or less speechless,

and then Phil went player to player and told like a nice story about each guy. So anyway. Is that according to Phil Nicholson? Yeah. I'm sorry he took it that way. Listen, many ways it's going to get. Yeah. I'm sorry you took it that way. Listen, many ways it's going to get. Yeah.

So one of the people said, said one of the sources, I don't know what article I got this from. Quote, Mikkelsen was trying to lead the team and protect the team there when he put himself under the gun pretty good on Sunday night. He did that for a lot of people. Selfless. Selfless, exactly. So let's go to 2015 quickly.

It finishes tied for second at the Masters. It's the 10th major runner-up of his career, which places him second all time to Jack Nicholas. That's the one that's spieth one. July, the only thing to note from the bridge of hope when I thought this was funny, you can remember on 17 at St. Andrews, he hits his drive onto the balcony of the hotel.

He makes triple, he was two shots off the lead at that time, but makes triple. Wow, I didn't realize he was out there. Yeah, May, I guess I'm a little out of order here. May of that year up at the memorial in Columbus. I don't know if this is when he was like approach. It must be, but I found a little anecdote that he stopped at a little kid's roadside lemonade stand and paid for a $1 cup of lemonade with a $100 bill and told him to keep the change.

What else happened that week? That made me feel the same. And I think that's when, yeah, that must have been when he was approached by the agents. It was like pretty dramatic. That came up to him in the locker room. They were on site at Moral, if I remember right, and like, whisked him away for questioning. How disappointed Jack must have been.

Oh man. The feds are on site. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I believe this. In September of 2015, there are plans to design and build Michelson National Golf Club, outside Calgary, which is actually set to open later in 2020, but obviously we'll see with everything going on. It's must be cool. Yeah, very good things.

Yeah, which, you know, if it's like Whisperock, maybe it will be. He leaves Bitbucharmin in 2015. Forbes magazine estimates Michelson's annual income around 51 million. 2016. He hires Andrew Getson as his new swing coach. In January of 2016, there is a stir when Ryan Ruffles is quoted talking about a gambling incident with Michelson.

Ruffles says, quote, we get to the first tee. It's pretty early in the morning. Oh, God, we got to see. And Ruffles is now quoting Michelson as saying, I don't wake up this early to play for anything less than $2,500. The 42-time USPGA Tour winner gave Ruffles 2 to 1 odds. If Ruffles won, Mikkelsen would give him $5,000.

If he lost, Ruffles would have to pay up $2,500 after he turns pro. Ruffles is like a 17-year-old amateur at this point. Ruffles is like a 17 year old amateur at this point. Ruffles says, I was a few down through nine, but then I buried six of my last seven to win by one shot and took his money, so that was pretty cool. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Uh, Miggleson, it was not too pleased

that this all got made public. Quote, he's young and he's got some things to learn talking about ruffles. One of them is you don't discuss certain things You don't discuss specifics of what you play for you certainly don't embellish and create a false amount just for your own benefit So those things right there are that's high school stuff And he's gonna have to stop doing that now that he's out on the PGA tour You only publish it if it's your

22 to 1 off on the Ravens winning the Super Bowl or the Diamond Vax winning the world series. At what point does Phil start piling around with all these young guys? Like that's always been kind of a red flag for me. Like when he started having this whole bromance with Kegan and... We're deep in the Kegan, right? Brandon, Steele and Rookie. Yeah, they do their practice rounds together. It's like they go like this.

That are his age, don't really want to hang out with them. Both Tigers kind of the same way, right? Steel and Ricky. Yeah, they do their practice rounds together. It's like they guys that are easy. They don't really want to hang out with them. Tigers kind of the same way, right? Like with JTE and all those guys. They're mentoring the next generation. Yeah, they're passing around to EC. It's very, you should start hanging out with a high school. You should start playing high school.

I started our young hitters program. Come on. That would be the best. So I said, he's played a match at Jackson Beach and get some high schoolers for money. Man, man, Keanu. I said May 2015,

I actually think it might be May 2016 when he was approached because on May 19th, 2016, Mikkelsen was named as a relief defendant in another SEC complaint alleging insider trading. This is the Dean Food Stuff, right? Yes, this was the Dean Food Stuff. Now this is this is kind of complicated. I read a lot of stuff. Great. French onion dip. Dean Foods. So, what's his deal with CPG companies? Well, let me let me set the stage for you. The FBI approached him in 2014 after his round. Okay. All right. So that must have been the Chloroc stuff.

approached him in 2014 after his round. Okay. All right. So that must have been the Chlorox stuff. So this action stems from trades and dean foods in 2012 in conjunction with confidential information provided by Thomas Davis, who is a former director of dean foods company. So also a linebacker for the fan page. Who Thomas Davis tipped his friend and his friend as Billy Walters obviously the

professional sports better. The SEC did not allege that Walters actually told Michelson of any material non-public information about teen foods but Michelson made trades around teen foods. He had never made any trades previously with teen foods and he cleared a profit of 931,000 from trading Dean Foods. So Walters gets convicted in 2017 of making 40 million on this Thomas Davis' private information between the years 2008 and 2014.

So this Dean Foods executive is feeding Billy Walters' private information about Dean Foods. Walters is using it to to make investments on Dean Foods. Now, why is he doing that? Because Thomas Davis had gambling debts to Billy Walters. So this was like his way of share repaying that. At one point, Michelson owed Walters two million dollars. And I think that's when Walters told Mikkelsen, hey, you should invest in Dean Foods. I think something good is going to happen. And Mikkelsen does pay back the profit and then he uses that money to pay back Walters. So we got this whole insider trading web going on.

I had it, I was pictured before. A ledger explain that is. Legally. I was thinking Mikkelsen, I can imagine him trying him trying to explain this is like, so why don't you invest in Dean Foods? I just love their French onion dip. And I like, you know, Clorox too. I like to keep the counters.

You know, and I like to invest in companies that I use respect and love. I forget if this is like a widely publicized story, but this is shortly after this is when Koocher also during a, was also during a rain delay or something, comes into the locker room at some PJ Tour about wearing Dean Foods. No, it was a T-shirt. It was like they were sitting down for a meal, I think, at players' minds. That's what I'm saying. It's a cat fill!

Fill! Come over! Come sit with us! And like Koochir takes off his sweater and has a Dean Foods shirt underneath. The suit feels its down. That was pretty good. Coach condition. And then his life I did shortly after that.

Over the last few years. So, this is where it's like convoluted. Mikkelsenics essentially never gets formally charged. And at one point he pleads the fifth and refuses to testify. Um, Walters, Billy Walters never cooperated with the authorities. So investigators never are able to learn what, if anything, he told Michelson about the source of his information about Dean Foods, believe it or not, snitches get stitches situation. Exactly.

Is Phil and Ark? Well, so the government has no proof that Mikkelsen intended to violate the laws against the OCC is intent. But what the SEC did do was they named Mikkelsen, I said, as a relief defendant in a civil case, meaning that the agency believed that he profited from insider trading, even if he didn't engage in it himself. So Mikkelsen settled the civil case by agreeing to surrender his trading profits of 931,000 plus interest, and in doing so,

Mikkelsen either admitted nor denied the allegations of the SEC's complaint. Is that an Alfred plea? It sounds a lot like an Alfred plea. Yeah. Which the straffloist took. Which we know all about. Yeah, so that's kind of the best I can summarize that whole operation was because Billy Walters never cooperated. Mikkelsen essentially pleaded the fifth

and was able to not testify to anything publicly. Would Mikkelsen going to jail for an extended period of time or prison federal propound in the Aspath century? Would that be equivalent to like, like Vic getting arrested on federal dog fighting charges? Just as far as the Mike Vick one's little more visceral. I think it'd be like the Martha Stewart. Yeah, the Martha ones the crazy.

I don't need a dog fighting on a different level because there's a lot of emotion there's a lot of this. There's so much more. But just for how shocking it is, like... Martha Stewart's a great guy. Like one of my favorite golfers is going to prison. Well, I think Martha Stewart, like in her world, was like this wholesome, popular character.

People were like, really Martha Stewart was inside her trading. But yeah, Mickleson, you know, he wiggle's out of that. I don't know if this is in your notes, but isn't like there are Billy Walters' book that's gonna come out that supposedly is not gonna be great for Mr. Mickleson? Or did they already come out? Oh, I don't know. Okay. Yeah, I don't know.

You have my attention though. I could be, I don't know what would be. I have no source for that. That's the alleged of alleged right there. So this is all May of 2016. July of 2016, we go back on the course and Mickleschund shoots an opening round 63 at the British Open, tying at that time

the major record for low-round. Inners of course, one stroke behind Stenson going into Sunday and Phil shoots a buggy free 65, but loses by three shots because Hendrick shoots 63 on that Sunday. Which I think it was, I don't know if it was the 15th club or someone, Jake Nichol, or somebody put together like an analysis of the best performances in major championship history and fill that week put forth the fifth best performance in major championship history. That was true. Yeah.

Henry Stanton put together the second best performance. Like he had not only should he have won, he like legit was one of the greatest performances major history. That's a good say. We have a couple stats to go along with that. Michelson finished. Michelson has the runner up finished 11 shots clear of third place, which is a major record. Whoa, I forgot about that.

He's 17 under if I remember right? And the next guy was like six and then it's the end. That's the most one. That's been 19. Or yeah, 20. Yeah. It's birdie the last one last middle finger. Mikkelsen's 267 score is the best ever for a British open runner up and it's the second

lowest major runner up score behind. Jordan's beef. Mikkelson's 266 at the 2001 PGA. Wow. It's his 11th runner up now in a major. So yeah. That's wild. Yeah.

Fall of 2016, I don't know the exact date. Michelson has two surgeries for sports hernia issues. 2017 is kind of a light year. He comes back, but I think quicker than anybody really expected from the sports hernia. The one thing that I wanted to note at the US Open in 2017, he withdraws from the US Open to attend his daughter, Sophia's high school graduation. And then two weeks later in June, he and bones part ways. So as first reported by no, you know, do you want

to give some some color on that? Yeah, it was, that was a weird wild night. I was, so I just quit my job. I was living in Amsterdam and I was moving back to the States, but I had started to kicked off like a month and a half trip through the UK that I was doing before I moved home. The summer of solid. Yes, it was, that's what it's been known as. And we get a text from a well-sourced individual that says, hey, you guys can't say anything yet, but bones and filler announcing tonight

that they're going separate ways. I'm like, oh my God, that's wild, can't say anything. So I'm actually playing a round of golf at Brawra. And I tell the guys I'm playing with them, I'm like, you can't say anything, but I'm gonna kind of be on my phone because there's gonna be some news breaking at some point while we're out here

that bones and filler breaking up. And I checked my phone a couple of weeks later and I had a miss call from bones and I was like, whoa, that is really bizarre. So I call him back and I'm like, hey, ironically, he had told me, he's like, you gotta go see this brawler place, you have to go see it.

I'm like, dude, you're not gonna believe this, I'm playing brawler right now. He's like, no way. I won't keep you long, just like check your I'm like, dude, you're not gonna believe this. I'm playing Brewer right now. He's like, no way. I won't keep you long. Just, hey, check your email. I got something for you. And I was like, okay, yeah, what's up? He's like, oh, no, nothing.

Just like, check your email. And I knew what it was by a deck. Like I didn't. So I checked my email for the next like 45 minutes. And he had sent, he sent to a bunch of people that he knew, I think in media or whatnot. But I don't know who he, if he tipped off anyone else, but I would have just been checking the email, so I was able to break the news first.

Is this before or after you fake the whole one? This was right before I fake the whole one. So like I, I'm so distracted during, like whatever the tweet goes out, I'm so distracted during this round and I tee off on like the 14th hole. And I call them, but I hit a really good drive. I call them back and I'm like, hey, you know, really appreciate the tip. Like let's catch up, blah, blah, blah.

And then that's when I go up there and like I'm kind of looking for the ball, but not really because I'm checking my, like the Twitter mentions are going nuts and all this. And we got there and I made a whole new one, I'm a part four. So, any opportunity I get to work that. What are you doing?

What are you doing? It was a wild, wild, wild night. What a world. So yeah, so that's June of 2017. 2017 is one of Michelson's worst seasons on tour. He misses the cut then at the British and the PGA. At what point did he start working out and getting rid of the, was it a sub-containees fat? Well, I think that, I think that coincides with something I'm going to get to.

So it's got a 2018. March, he ends a winless drought on tour, which is stretching back to the 2013 British Open with a victory in Mexico at the WGC. Oh, that was a great final round. Awesome day. Yeah. Justin Thomas had his whole out on the 72nd hole and then the playoff. April, the only thing I wanted to note here was was the unveiling of Phil's button down

golf shirt, which made its appearance in the master's practice round with Tiger, which was wild. Yeah, there's a lot of wild stuff in that sentence. It would get a little weirder in June at the US Open. I don't know if you guys remember the third round of the US Open. Yeah. Phil would shoot in 81. The highlight being he would hit his ball before it came to rest on the 13th hole. What would be a two-shot penalty? Phil would say, look, I mean, no disrespect to anybody. No intent to disrespect.

I know it's a two-shot penalty, and at the time, I just didn't feel like going back and forth and hitting the same shot over. I took the two-shot penalty and moved on. It's my understanding of the rules. I've had multiple times where I've wanted to do that. I just finally did. Which, what did come out very quickly, I was like, hey dude, you could have taken it

on playable and replayed from the previous spot. Like that was, he tried to paint that as the smart decision and it was 100% not. And he got tarted feathered for it. Well, so Curtis Strange asked them if it was disrespectful to the championship. And Michelson said that it wasn't the case. He said, quote, it's certainly not meant that way. It's meant to take advantage of the rules as best you can. championship and Michelson said that it wasn't the case. He said, quote, it's certainly not meant that way. It's meant to take advantage of the rules as best you can.

In that situation, I was just going back and forth. I would gladly take the two shots over continuing that display. How good is that though to just see like someone's brain just short circuit? I'm like, yeah, I literally not hitting the shot again. I've got to do. I can't do it.

Yeah, basically. The next way you guys feel about it, what do you saw at the first again. I'm getting it. You can't do it. Yeah, basically. The next one. How did you guys feel about it when you saw it the first time? I thought it was sick. Well, I was withdrawing. Yeah, I thought he was going to withdraw. I remember getting a text, I think, from Good Park and my brother. And I was like, oh my god.

Like, Mikkelsen just lost his mind. He's losing his mind. Yeah, I was like, oh my god. This was while they were losing the course, too. It was shocking. Yeah, I was like, oh my god. This was while they were losing the course too. It was shocking. God, that was a good day. It was really shocking. I really wish that putt that he hit when he like,

jabbed it, had gone in. Yeah, had gone in. He lived it. Yeah. I think that would end sweet. The next week he did walk it back a little bit. He got back down a little bit. In an apology, yeah.

He said, I know this should have come sooner, but it's taken me a few days to calm down. My anger and frustration got the best of me last week. I'm embarrassed and disappointed by my actions. It was clearly not my finest moment. And I'm sorry, which was a good apology. Saul and I were in Chicago at that time at the KPMG women's PGA events. And it's when I got to meet my guy Phil for the first time in my life. Metameth, soldier field. And I was thinking it possibly,

possibly could be the tallest combined height of two fills anytime, anywhere. I was thinking unless Phil Jackson and Phil Blackmore have met each other or until I meet one of those guys. Yeah, that's very how tall is Phil? Like six three easy unit. Did Phil think that you were Jay color? Because you you tend to look like Jay color too.

He did not mistake me for Jay color. Um, did he think you guys were like taking a picture together and you were doing a video? Like there's a video of this whole encounter. It's like a two-minute video. And I think he had like, it's all in, well, because I remember him going for like the picture and you're like, no, no, it's a video.

He's like, oh, okay. He played along though. And I can't say if this was a throw away two minutes for him, but like he was, he was really good that day. I mean, you know, he was impressive with the kids and I don't know. He turns it on for the sponsor stuff. Yeah, he was nervous. Yeah, I was super nervous.

Um, August, you'll remember the Miz and the main commercial heirs with Phil Dodge and golf balls on the driving range. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. We did our own spook. Get his ass. Get his ass. September, he's a captain's pick for the writer cup. He goes O and two though, as the US loses.

That was one of the most iris possible captain's picks in the whole time. November is the match. I think we all had our own thoughts and feelings with the match. Who's that? Phil. Sorry. Well, I was trying to make guys up his first time. Who is that? Phil.

He's trying to make guys up his first time. Phil did win the match. He took home the $9 million prize. It's a very awkward playoff. Yeah. And then we're going to check the Billy Walters. At the same time, the infamous Michelson or the J. Goan story about Michelson at the speed sweating,

I don't know if you guys remember that, where Owens essentially went up and complained to him about, you know, his technology didn't work, and watch the match. And, you know, he wants his money back, filled to got a hundred dollar bill, threw it at J. Goans and said,

go F yourself. I think it was kind of ingest, but there was more to it. I essentially feel saying, you know, this $100 bill, yeah, I just won like $90,000 of these or $9,000 of these. Do we think you actually won $9 million? Do we think they split the money? I think you won more than that. I think you split a separate pot, a you split the money from the agreement and then anything you did win $9 million. I never, the whole match thing was just... Shout out to our friend, the main grip.

Big shot Bob Lucettich for breaking what's been, I thought was an open secret for the last couple months. Yes, you're on Twitter. What was it? About the match too. The match too. Brady and Manning. Brady and Manning, yeah.

Which, yeah, I thought it was gonna be at Mirfield Village, but I guess all the COVID-19 stuff is a very fluid situation. I think it's a very fluid situation. I made it more fluid, possibly here in Florida. Yeah. So we'll just roll quickly. We're in 2019, we're last year. On course, he wins the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro Am,

which was sick, which was sick. It's his 44th career PGA Tour win. He tried that Alpha, Paul KC. I thought kind of amazingly. So it disgusted on the last hole. It's his first PGA win on American soil since 2012. 18 T-Pebble Beach Pro Am. No, false.

2013 Phoenix Open. 2013 Phoenix Open. Yeah, still. Thank you, TC. Six years, thank you, TC. Six years. Thank you, TC. I regret the air.

February also of last year, the PGA Tour implemented their new rule allowing players to wear shorts during practice rounds and programs. If makelson's calves go somewhat viral. You guys. Great to have you guys. Great to have you guys. Yeah. Good, good calves.

No denying that. It's all you have to say about that. June, the fireside chats with Phil. Get unveiled on his social media. Good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, here we are, nothing better, Saturday at Augusta, hit and bombs. And somebody spliced it with the scene from the office where Michael runs into Meredith with the car. And it was one of the best ways to remember to see it, but I can't find it. So if somebody knows where that is, please send it our way.

You'll remember the first fireside chat video was the, he tells the story of the 2006 memorial when the officials out changing the cups and went to get dump in the cup. Somebody took a dump in the cup. Which may have been, that may have been solid back in 2006. You guys were there in 2006, where were you? It may have been the guy who was going after Nick Price,

you called him, found him. That might have been very well-cutted. I think I was the same year. July, to your, you had asked earlier, TC about the diet, he shared that he had completed a six day fast, Mikkelson had of nothing but water and a special coffee blend. He and Sol are big on the.

Yeah, he lost 15 pounds. I think he was targeting the, what you call the sub. Subcutaneous fat. Yeah. Which he'd been talking about for I think a few years. Decades. Yeah. I would say, like, I'm really yoked.

You guys just can't tell because I have subcutaneous fat. Phil's been fascinating at the beginning now. I don't know if he caught fastening, but when he, it's almost like it clicked firm with social media. He must get some type of serotonin hit that maybe he's not getting from gambling or something with like, oh, look at this. I can reach an exponential amount of people

then I can in my press conferences. But what from everything that we've been doing over the last two hours, Leesie to believe like he's not just going to get super bored and talk with what, okay, cool, what's next? Yeah, I'm going to move to Florida. My favorite thing about the diet and the fact that now the wake server is like, he's like 50, right? He's almost 50 and he talks about it.

Like, well yeah, I have always known this. Like yeah, if you want to talk, like this is how you got Paul and the devil. Right time to do it. Yeah, of course, this is what it does to you. And it's like dude, you had a lot of years of your pride that you could have been in my chain. That reminds me that was a Norman quotes about him. Like yeah, if I just come to, you know, weight training earlier, like dude you had a lot of years of your pride that you could have been in my chain. That reminds me that was a Norman quotes about him like yeah if I just come to you know weight training earlier like you know

I knew about it, but I just you know that It's like well, which is it did you know about it or did you like you just discovered? Yeah, did you exactly I think he's a sociopath in the best sense of the word They all have been complicated October a little nugget for you guys. Last October, Phil visited the Chinese city of Macau for the first time as a guest at the Las Vegas Sands. I can only imagine the gambling you got into the Macau.

Did he build the city of Macau? November to the coffee thing in an interview with, I think, I own a steven. Phil made the claim I drink coffee all day long, and in the last 10 years, I've not been sick a single day. Dylan DeCherra, our friend at Golf Magazine, published like three public instances where he has been sick in the last 10 years.

And in the last 10 years. And Sean Zock from golf.com did the six day coffee fast. Yes, in early 2012. I would encourage people to go read his dispatch. Well, all right. If tomorrow, Michelson teamed up with Jenny McCarthy and went on like a big anti-vaccine thing, like would it surprise anybody?

In one sense, no. But that's the thing. He's always balanced like he's weird and he's out there, but he's got like such a good understanding of how it plays publicly. And also that you got to look at the stem foundation. He's a big man of science. Yeah, I will say in all my personal dealings with him, he would stay at the at the Ritz and Buckhead, regardless of where the tournament that he was playing in Atlanta was or when he would go, sometimes

you would have like, you know, corporate outing over it, peach tree or East Lake or wherever, or if he was coming into Augusta a couple days early, he would, he would float over there for the day and then do a corporate outing. And he would always stay there regardless if it was athletic club or wherever he liked staying there. And every single time he came in and he tipped every bellman and every dormant on her box and didn't do it in an ostentatious, showy way.

And then he would wake up at like 6 a.m. every morning and have breakfast down in the main cafe and read the Wall Street Journal. It was remarkable like normalcy and routine. See how we gotta do that. We gotta do the hotel stories trap draw. There's too much that. That's a great call.

Yeah, it's A-Cons brother, man. It's A-Cons brother, man. So to put a bow on this, I guess the only public thing Drew Heat 4 was in December, he announced he would play in the Saudi Arabia event this year, which he did go and play in. He was really excited to see a bar of the world that he's never seen before.

Taking views there. It's all the haters. He said, quote, you'll be okay. I'm a do, to quote Kevin Hart. I'm a do me. Wasn't that it? Yeah. Also, the only thing to add, he did not make the 1999,

or excuse me, he did not make the 2019 Presidents Cup, which is the first time he's missed an international team competition since the 1993 Ryder Cup, which I thought was. Did you mention the dual Sergio? Pretty interesting. The Ryder Cup. Do you guys remember,

they, they, at Hazel team? At Hazel team. And what if they shot like a worst ball, 63, or something crazy. Like the two of them just do it the whole day. Yeah, it was not that. That was one of the most remarkable things I've like watched.

And it got kind of overshadowed. So that's a gross one. It's like a pro amp. Yeah, it got kind of overshadowed by the Rory and Reed match. But yeah, that was far better. I got two things that stick out to me about Phil's career And all that he's only one three WGC's Which would seem like right up his alley cat one of them. That's true

He won two of them and in in in oh not and so two of his three or a no-no And then the other was WGC Mexico and also, he's never won the FedEx Cup. Yeah, that's true. From what? I think you can add FedEx Cup, Paul, the year, never been ranked number one. But he's won, like I said, this is kind of like my bow, right? He turns 50 this year. He's won 44 times on the PJ Tour.

He's won five majors, of course. He's earned over $90 million in on course earnings. I thought this was an interesting stat. He's got 23 top three finishes and majors, which is third all time behind Jack's 46 and Tigers 26. You know what I always thought was not not perfect parallel, but an interesting parallel for Phil is Arnold Palmer. One of bunch majors, one major short of the career grand slam, always played second fiddle basically to the dominant player in the era, made a ton of money off the course. He loved it. Huge market guy, beloved guy.

The people shamed him. He took the thumbs up thing from Arnie. Arnie obviously is more iconic figure in the game golf, but there's a lot of parallels between Phil and Arnie. I would also say one special project of NLU that we have not been able to do yet, but I hope that we can is having Phil, our Phil, our Randy walk 18 holes with Phil Mickelson

and count how many times he gives the thumbs up and the head nod to the crowd. Just document every thing you're watching. I would love to know how many times he does that in one round. That was good. When we get back to normal, that'd be a good project at an event. So that's a little shocked with Scott McCarran. That's a fucking ridiculous round.

So I hope maybe you learned a little something. Great, that was excellent man. That's a look into the life and career of Philip Alfred. Thanks for teaching me today, Mr. Randy. You're welcome guys. Now, hey, homework, get it done. All right, and enjoy yourselves this weekend. Okay, one more thing.

Have fun. All right, thanks everybody for tuning in. Cheers. Let's go to recess. Be the right club. Be the right club today. That is better than most. How about in? That is better than most. Better than most. Better than most.