No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 299: Danielle Kang

Episode Date: April 8, 2020

Danielle Kang is back to take on your best questions from Twitter, including some great stuff about her relationship with Butch Harmon, specifically how he helped her, her controversial Solheim Cup comments, what she's doing with her time off, how she handicaps games with Maverick McNealy, and so much more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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April 10, 5.30 pm Eastern time. To answer the first question, visit calwaygolf.com slash fan beat. That's F-A-N-B-E-A-T starting Thursday, April 9 at 8 am. So that's Eastern. Calawaygolf.com slash fan beat to be ready for the 10 minute live game happening Friday, April 10th at 530 Eastern without any further delay. Here's our podcast with Danielle Kang. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up podcast. Welcome on today in quarantine. I think it's safe to say. Would you are we I think we'll declare right now our favorite LPGA tour player player Daniel Kang. Thanks for joining us. Oh thank you. I'm the new favorite. I'm just sucking up to you so you'll actually give us some good gold today. So don't get too excited. What's your set the scene here? What's your current scene? Where are you at? How much golf you play and how are you passing the time? So far we haven't played much golf courses are open but right now I'm strictly

quarantined and I put a little bit in my room and I try to do a little empty what I call it like empty swing, a little crack swing on my mirror but other than that not much golf but however I've been awesome January so I've been playing a lot of golf until recently. Well for people that don't know, where do you live? I live in Las Vegas. And what is the scene like in Las Vegas as far as the virus and everything? Is that a hard hit area?

What's kind of compare it to maybe what you've seen on the news in other parts of the country? What I've seen so far on the news and comparable to them, Las Vegas has been pretty okay. I don't think we've been hit that hard yet. There are definitely people that are sick and getting contaminated. All the restaurants are shut down take out only I think that's kind of the standard right now but it's not that bad to be honest but I think we are getting

a little bit more cautious than normal and it's not that bad. Well in kind of the people I've talked to here that are maybe corn fairy guys and stuff like that in Jacksonville they kind of are in a've talked to here that are maybe corn fairy guys and stuff like that in Jacksonville. They kind of are in a weird holding pattern of not knowing whether or not they want to practice right now. I'm like, I don't know what's coming next or when we're actually going to be playing. I don't really understand why I would be practicing really hard right now. Is that kind of the same boat you feel like you're in? A little bit.

I think I felt that few weeks ago, but Bob Terman at Playaden was the Boka tournament in January. So I've been off for probably about 13 weeks now. It's been a long time, it's over three months, and the beginning got probably kind of felt, but I just really like playing. So I'm a bit frustrated that I can't just go out and, you know, play off. I have new appreciation of this going and playing around on punch creams now. That you see how it's like a week of play golf. But are we got a bunch of a bunch of really good Twitter questions? We're going to get through as many as we can. I don't know if you flagged any, but I flagged a bunch of them. The first one comes from a huge fan. Maybe the biggest fan he just

can't believe he would it would make his year if you would answer his question. At Big Rain, NLU. Just a special shout out for him would be so appreciated, but he wants to know one skill, either chipping, putting, driving, distance, or mental that you would steal from someone else on the LPGA tour, if you could. Mental from Indie Park and Kipping from Lydia Co. That's a quick answer. Give us some details there there what impresses you about both of their mental game and their and Lydia's chipping

Lydia's chipping I can kind of put it in a way when she hits what shot it looks like the ball is putting on makeup as it's kind of loading the whole it doesn't look it doesn't look wild it just kind of looks the hole. It doesn't look, it doesn't look wild. It just kind of looks, you know, people just hit a chip dot. It kind of goes, I don't know how to quit it. But when Lydia hit it, it's kind of going, oh, I'm on my way as you cut her with a, and it just kind of softly lands her softly land right next to the hole. It's her hands are just incredible. I'm positive.

It's like she's, her chips are very polite, if you will. If by the motions you're making on FaceTime right now, that's what it looks like to me. No, polite is a different word. This is just casual, casually sitting right next to the hole, casually going to two inches and just saying thank you and you just kind of go how did that bulge it? What impresses you about MB Park's mental game?

MB Park's mental game I have the privilege to get to know her really well in the last years and my goodness, nothing phases that woman. I tried all the golf course, all the golf course, nothing. Her mental game is she steps her mind to it, she gets the dust. And I think that's some special quality that people need. And she's definitely special. Well describe her game. Describe her game as a whole for people that maybe aren't that familiar with it or haven't seen her play a lot of golf. Well, Indy Park's ball game is very sturdy. She is consistent. She doesn't look as if she is falling off the rails or she doesn't see her get nervous

technically. We don't see her giving off a lot of emotions, but that's what I like about her personality. She feels all the emotions. Everybody does, but it's the portraying. She's got the focus space on. She has, I know what I need to do, and this is what I'm going to do, and that's the mentality she has,

and I think that's great. That doesn't fear you off from your own goal when you're trying to accomplish. So that's pretty incredible for me to see. Where does her judging distance rank in terms of like other players you play with it? And how it relates to you and other top players. I don't think I've ever seen a miss a fairway. It's just just great every time. And it's high and high in soft landing with iron, long iron

dress shoes. And then the putting don't give me started on the putting my guy that's all is almost going in every time from wherever you see they're in or almost going yes she can put the absolute lights out so Kyle Schrader's to piggyback on Randy's question if you had to take one skill from big Randy and put it into your game you had to take one what are you you taking? I guess it's his people skills. What's much nicer than I am, which makes you a happier person, when you're happier person, you play better at all. So I guess you have to skill.

That's getting violent, a technicality right there. I was gonna say, you'd probably be best off if you took his chipping. That would damage you the least I think not that you're a bad chipper. That's not what I'm saying. You're making a face. You don't agree Yes, don't miss it. That's what I was thinking hit every green and and then you don't have to take his chipping or don't use any of this chipping So I'm kidding Randy you're a great chipper

Brandy, you're a great chipper. So it wasn't my film, it wasn't the words. The last one related to that is M-M-222, which KPMG PGA championship victory means more to you, the 2017 individual or the 2019 team program, of course. Oh, oh. Well, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I one? I might take the individual I will Well, I'm sorry, but just as you are and I are in FaceTime I will show you how much the other one means to me because you are on my Nightmare. Oh, we're right there. There it is. You are you're somewhere in the house here as well

I don't know where it is exactly but I promise you are. Yes, see? You guys are technically, you guys have a frame of Wow that that does mean the world to me so Taylor Farrell asks one thing that is keeping you sane during isolation. I haven't gotten bored so okay. What do you do? How do you knock aboard then? What do you do? I'm pretty busy. I've done a lot of workouts in the room. We've got a lot of different places. We go on hiking and I know that's social distancing before they shut the park down. We went to bedrock, down in the national park.

We went to waterfall fights, mountains, Charleston. Visited seven magic mountains. Yeah, I don't know. I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to play, I like to actually, maddening I talked about how we have to appreciate this time because we're probably never going to get this kind of time again. We've never funned this much, you know, we never get a chance to spend weeks and weeks out together. And yeah, we complain about not getting an off season, though we definitely do want to play after this possible. We're competitors, so we want to get out there. I haven't gone out there a long time. I miss playing ball competitively in front of fans. It's mixed feeling. We like it at the same time. We want to get out there. Yeah. Along those lines,

a question from Cam Luxka. That's a tough one to pronounce. How did it feel to catch fire, the latter part of the season? Is this hiatus good to fine-tune or does it suck because you've been playing so well? Because you finished the season last year on an incredible note and that started on a good note as well. So how does that relate to your actual way you're playing? I don't look at it as it's going to be an issue. I'm kind of the test person that you kind of talk about the flow with the world throws at you. And for me, yeah, of course,

I keep playing the plague because I'm playing good. But I'm pretty sure that I'm not the only one in the boat where you know, you plan out your entire year, you plan out your schedule, and it's all gone down the drain right now. And that's not just me, that's everybody. I mean, he's a dick, he shot a coarse record, and it got wet. So pretty sure he's not very happy about that either, but it is what it is. It's like, that's all I can say, it is what it is. I just want

everyone to be safe and healthy and just get the world back normal. During then, I'm on, but we're creating this new campaign. I've done a lot of the video challenges, the hashtag challenge each other, presenting a lot of funny videos, and most of the videos are a half-full-time job, technically, when you start a campaign. So that's keeping me busy as well. Yeah, some Connor Hendrixson, he asked the DMS during quarantine have to be out of control. He said, let's hear him.

My DMs have been regarding the challenges that I've been asking. Everyone's posting all the really, really fun videos. Just check out the challenge each other, account, I'm running it, map and I are running it. So anytime you guys tag us, tag me or maf, we are a download video, reposting it, and we're donating money to Greece for food banks, which is the only food bank in Las Vegas that needs a lot of help. And that's where I actually volunteer. I'm not volunteering right now because of the whole, you know, no volunteer quarantine thing, but there are so many ways that we can help each other, especially in the time of air-quote-border.

So keep an eye out. It's inspiring. That's really nice. The pikeman asked, how has Buchharmon helped you? He seems to be more than a coach, but also a big fan. I'm not sure exactly what he means by that, but what's the timeline when you start working with Butch Harmon and kind of what kind of a effect is he had on you? So a lot of people have asked me what kind of effect butch has on me.

All I can sometimes respond and it's kind of a joke but not really. He got me up to number four in the world in less than a year and a half. He asked me how he did it. I really don't know. I just do what he says. That's as simple as that. But if people ask me what is that, I always just want, I don't really know. He got to ask the guy. He's kind of a crazy genius. I was having a lot of problems before I went to him and I was in 2018 fall. I think I've missed, I made one out of nine cuts before I went to him, so I missed eight cuts, eight out of nine.

Missed the final cut I made beyond and then I went, I just couldn't keep it in the fairway. I've never hit it OB. I put, yeah, I know it's a different kind of thing, but I don't really hit it'll be, I mean, you know, I don't hit it way right way less, and that's what I was doing. And frustrating me, so then I um, Dustin Johnson actually was the one that told me to go to Fouche Harmon four years in prior to 2014, he told me to go to Buche, and I said, no, as a no, no, no, it's okay, you know, You go to, I'll go in the time comes and then four years later, I went to which department of dust and goes,

I asked you to go to four years ago. You could have gone to four years ago. I said, let's just move on past that. And but you even know that you could dust and stuff up. But I don't know, I started with them, and then I finished third, and then I won. That'll work, I think. It was pretty cool.

And. Well, so what is this teaching style like? I mean, does he like, you know, quiz you? Is he giving you a bunch of drills and stuff for you to work on your own? Is it kind of, what really activated for you? Did he just like inspire some things that were kind of already there within you?

Cause that's kind of what the sense I get from a lot of instructors how they work with top-tour pros is they just got to really kind of find ways to ignite the players more than they are making huge structural changes. Yes, I think that is what playing football is about. I don't think he has a thing he saw with everybody. He's not very so personally speaking, he's not very technical with me, he's very goofy, we joke around a lot, we talk a lot, but it's a very casual lesson when him and I are together, it's basically hanging out and we have so much fun, but at the same time, he delivers the messages the way I would understand them. So I ask people can tell I'm pretty difficult, you know,

just a, oh yeah, yeah Chris, oh you don't have to nod. And why are you laughing that way? You laugh, you don't excuse you. I think I hurt my neck from nodding so hard at that, actually, a little bit. Yeah, yeah, oh, whatever, guys. So I, yeah, I could be a bit difficult and I, I don't understand things very well sometimes and he says things in a way that I would, I would understand it

so far, since as we've been working together, I don't know how he gets in my head, but he does. And a lot of times I had no one in my team, why didn't you tell me that earlier when he says to do something and I do it, and he gets really and he gets really upset I told you that three hours ago. He just walked away or something, but he's fun Can you give us an example? example I'll take the shot and you said Danielle the club is coming through a bit this way the head is doing this I need you to come in a little bit for shallow And I stared at him and the mess that I don't know what shallow

mean. And then he dropped the club and just walked away. He just walked away. He didn't say anything. He just walked away. He walked about 20, 30 yards, stopped, and there come back. It goes, clear draw. And I said, oh, okay, why didn't you say that? And then he just stared at me. But it worked. So, I don't know. That's what I mean, but I can't really explain, but then he explains it in a way I understand. I guess he dumbed it down for me, thought for dummies, and he could write that book. One time I think he went to me and he told me, he was comparing me to somebody and then he told me that this person had more dedication and more will and then I don't know why that really

Irritated me and then I said what are you talking about? I said I Practice so hard and then I started going off at him Just I don't know and then he wanted to just give me a little bit more motivation That's what he was trying to do and then I was freaking out on the side that I went, oh, I said, I don't know, he talked about he goes, why I got you thinking about it? And I went, dammit. So things like that. But he, I don't know, it's about Bush's even golf tournaments

when I'm on the road. That dude watches TV. He's, I'm in Asia and he's watching in three in the morning. He's looking at the swing. He's looking at the shots and calls me on Saturday or whatever it is, how are you feeling? And he checks in with me and that's the caringness. That's both beyond the coaching and that's where I believe that he's a bit different with a lot of people.

That's the care, it's the care is by the students and he loves helping people. And butch has a huge heart and he just wants everyone to optimize the best they can and help them get there. He's able to do that. So. That's his working. What the last Buch question? Steven Stewart asked, you may have covered it there,

but what is your best Buch Harman story? I can't really tell you all my favorite B on it. I live push to the talking. I always tell people, you can just give him a call. All right, we could do that. We need to get him on the pod. He would be a great guest. I have a feeling. Yeah, he's got to ask him.

I can't say a lot of the things that we talked about. A quick break here to give you a shout out again to our friends at Original Penguin. There's no new Taurus sauce episode this week, as you know, that concluded last week with our final episode at Tobacco Road, but they were an absolutely tremendous partner to work with in this most recent season of Taurus sauce.

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good fun poking around on that website as I do on a near weekly basis. So thank you, Ginda original Penguin, for their incredible opportunity they gave us with Taurus sauce and I hope to do many more of these and do go check them out. And always remember to be an original. Let's get back to Daniel Kang. Well, Steven Proctor asked, he said that he'd like to know what you think about the idea of women and men competing in the same event as done in Australia, and your ideas on formats

that you think might be cool. I think it'll be really cool on stroke play or match play King games or not The idea of having a woman and men King game that has the same golf course would be like amazing to be honest because even pine hers I know we did it back back week, but that was a lot of fun. We got to see the men Played just before our tournament and I know it wasn't major, but I absolutely loved it I got to be the men compete on the weekend. I got to see how the golf course played. The golf course was set up. I mean, the conditions were still actually, you know, here. So I hope

that there's a team game one day where I met TJ Torplier, LBJ Torplier, and he team up and play against each other. I could be a match play bracket, Pepe Deal, maybe even when there's a close celebrity pro-amp type, maybe we can merge them together. I think it was a big fun because it'll showcase different parts of the game on what we're really good at and what they're really good at. I think a lot of people get confused sometimes that women actually don't miss a fairway, men do. They think that a lot of the girls are, I mean, women are better at stroke, and versus the men.

I think women have better accuracy than the men do, and that is my honesty. We just hit it so straight. The Iron Play is what, when we played at KPMG, that's what stuck out to me about you. It was like your Iron Play was just so freaking solid. And the very, yeah, the variables were not there at the same level as they are at the highest level for men.

But it was fascinating to watch. I mean, it's kind of like, I can hit it way past you and you're in tighter than me on every single hole. It's such a fun. Yeah, I hit it right now. Yeah, I hit it right now. Oh, yeah. Yeah, wait.

Well, I'm still a little bit better that you thought I had to lay up on the third hole. And wait, okay, oh yeah. I haven't figured it out. Way past it. Okay, real life. This is a complimenting you on it. It's like I should be able to get it very close to the hole and I can't and you're hitting,

you know, whatever seven irons into the green and with extreme accuracy. That's what I'm getting at here. So yeah, okay. Yes, I agree with you 100%. When Maverick was in a group with us, when he sees off, the sound is completely different. Yeah. And people just kind of watch the world and it's not crushing you know, but we can't check. We can't make it. I hope I don't offend anybody by saying that, but it's just honesty

They hit it. We'll much further and so much harder. That's how it is. They are gone out driving me a guy That's what turketeama he fights with what I said I did fight with five you sure than me and He is one of the furthest hitters and golf and That's insane to me and no, I don't think he plays the fight but I'm gonna tell him to do that. And I make him play the same keys with me and then he's lost because for him even he has to lay up because the golf course is completely different and I love the fact that I took you guys like you lost right now he did a good job done. But yeah so going back to the topic women have a bit more accuracy than the men do, for men hit it really hard, and their short game is actually incredible. I can't even remember at the US of the qualifier, right?

And I don't even care if I still be one of the best Ryan Fox to playing in the group, Morgan Hoffman was playing in the group, I believe. I think those are the three sets. Now, at one point, we're playing a 36 by believe I think those are the three sets now at one point We're playing a 36-fold polifier Ohio's Burino high-end and After around the 20th hole I looked at Alex and I think Ryan asked me

Brian Bob Scott be hey what it would you know how is this is already different playing you know Ben their woman's game watching and I said Yeah, none of you guys I hit the green all at once. It's not a point. It is incredible. And none of you guys have hit the fairway all at once in the last point. Hit the fairway and the green please. And they're all 4-500 par. And they're just in Ryan's last Morgan long, Alex is short, right? And they're all just tipping to two feet and I'm going how is this happening? They're right side, left side, fair long, Alex's short right, and they're all just chipping to two feet. And I'm going, how is this happening? They're right side, left side, fairly fun for a hit and on the green.

Make up and yell, 30-yard bumpers shut, I'm just going, just dressing me out, just hit those firsts. But I think that showed me, I go, it's my god, these guys are so good at around the greens and they're touch. And it's really, really motivating and inspiring to see. But at the same time when they play with us, they go, you ever miss a fairway or a green, just miss. Yeah. So Mabel always tells me that every time I get mad when I miss the 15 footer, he goes, you know, specifically, you're bound to miss more 15 footers

because you have more opportunities To make them so I don't need to get so mad about missing a 15 footer on the third hole That's that's profound there. I always say like people for like for male golfers I said this very many times, but We we watch so much male professional golf and think that that's like how we should play the game But in reality like that works at the highest level, but it's not that necessary to just hit it super far and be inaccurate in our normal walks of life. And I learned so much more playing with somebody like yourself

or even some mid-ameter senior Am guys that don't hit it very far at all yet figure out ways to be creative and have great short games. And it just shows you that many different ways of getting the ball in the hole. Makes you want to just tighten up all of your dispersions, right? I mean, I don't need to hit like the perfect drive. I keep like striving for this amazing long high draw t shot that I hit properly once in 20 times.

When a reality, I should just have a shot that just is very reliable, right? and 20 times. When a reality, I should just have a shot that just is very reliable, right? Yes, it's not, I hope that people really take that apart. I did a little clinic for city bank and it was a one-on-one lesson and there was about 30-40 people so I have to give lessons to every single one person. It was pretty fun. And one guy came up and I said, how can I help you sir? And he said, I want to hit it wrong. And I said, what's your handicap? And he goes, what do you mean? I said, what do you shoot normally?

He goes 90. And I said, OK, what is extra? 10 yards going to help me in your game. And then everyone just heard a lot. And then he's close to me and I went, no, I'm in serious. I'm not trying to be a dick here. I'm just being really serious. Go work on your putting.

That's ridiculous to me that you want to hit 10 years. Just because you see dust and Johnson hit that far and all these Tiger Woods crushing his 30-yard slices and bubble lots to stop it. Just go put it. It's not real listening. They're not real listening here. Exactly. They're not they're not the model here. Honestly, I would just say, striking iron's well, consistently towards middle of greens is the best way to chop so many shots for Aminers, so many shots.

Talking, you were talking some about tees and stuff with Kirk Kadeam. I'm wondering, we got a question from W.A.P. Hoosier. How do you decide strokes and tees in a match between you and Maverick? We, what we do is, I always ask the strokes he never gives me to me. I think that's kind of rude but whatever. But he played my keys a lot and my keys meeting I play around 64 to 66 Vegas with Altitudes. A lot of times I play back to you with them but I get shot from

par 5. But it gets kind of stressful for me to have a lot of horns and hybrids and fibres in the fifth play back there. So it's not really fair, fairness and the iron game. What we do now is I ask him to play my keys and I take the driver away. Hmm, that's interesting. Yeah, or if you're a curd, I give him the driver and he still has been in the crab and I love it. Well, how's that match play out then usually?

Who has the upper hand there? Is it pretty close usually? It's pretty close at that point, because taking his match drive away from Maverick, he drives couple of holes. So I kind of take the advantage on number 15 on our golf court at the 60s in Tom Rallorland, out asking can you drive the green you go I can come close and I go how I stop or if I run up to the like one up one tee up and I just hit a driver on the degree. It's kind of not fair but it is fair because I'm trying to take advantage

but it does get close though I think that is the best way I can manage the games is taking the driver away and play with. That's fun. What same guy asked the question, what's your preferred on-course cocktail is? I don't drink. You don't drink? No, I know I might be surprised with a lot of people, but I actually don't drink.

I don't like the taste of it, and I'm kind of a control freak, and I don't think I would like the way it makes you feel. There you go. I like to be a little hurt at all times. There you go. I like to feel hurt at all times. There you go. That makes a lot of sense. I'm crazy sober.

I'm pretty sure adding alcohol is not that smart. I feel weird nodding along to that, but I can. Yeah. Yeah. I'm completely okay at every situation. I don't really get you ready to get me a little bit crazier or a little relaxed. I think I'm completely okay at every situation. I don't really think that you think it is. Getting a bit crazier, a little bit more relaxed. I think I'm good.

I'm guessing there's a story behind this one from Dave Evanson, which is, does your bro still annoy the crap out of you by walking up to check the flags, no matter how far off the green he is? Oh, yeah. So, Web.com did a little feature about my brother and I but without calling either of us they filmed us saying that we're both annoying So it that got people going obviously. Yeah My brother still hits the plastic no matter where he is. I don't know what the he says I should do it

He's a better trooper than I am, but I don't want it I'm looking I'm looking for the specific question on this, but it was I'll find who who can be going to attribute it to but something about the kind of You you jumped up some controversy here it is Tim Schirmer You faced a lot of criticism for your comments about the soulheim cup has that forced you to rethink being candid or outspoken when answering questions from the media Yeah, it actually has always wanted to view guys that rolling up. So yeah, I am definitely it picked me a back. I didn't to be honest There's two ways looking at that one. What can you can you go through what you said?

I guess I said that team game is about taking each other's souls and you know going out there to crush the other team But that interview wasn't about so high. So that's where I get really confused. So for some reason it was for youth so high. So I never said America or US or Europe, but at the same time, after that's that aired and I went, wait, that's what was the first so high and they would ask you, hey, we need some, we need some kind of a controversy answer for this. Like, what do you think about team game? And I said, I don't know, team game because I have a team mate. Like, no, no, I can't about something.

Okay, well, team games just crushed each other. Like, go take each other's goals. Like, you have a team mate to do it. What's fun is that. But now, okay, if you get everyone's online, let's look at it in a second perspective. Am I lying? No, that was, I was more upset about your apology.

Yeah, I'm sorry. Am I, is that a false statement? Like, do you go out trying to hold hands and be cum by? I'll be trying to come on. Let's not, let's not hit ourselves. So if you guys want, if people wanted to take a hit at me for it, go ahead. But I honestly, I didn't like the hit because I don't think I deserved it and too, I didn't know about it. So kind of weird for me. A lot of people that know me for me I always say things the way they are now

And Bob that might be refreshing that might not be but there will be some rare opportunities where I'm very candid Which is with you guys knowing up and I appreciate that though because That that's life. And to be honest, we're at the coronavirus pandemic right now. Does it really matter what I said back then? Yeah, it is. And, and, and, and, and, but, guys, because I've said it to the greatest part, I can't say what in a 40-year-old, three-moment, and she retired, how amazing is that to how amazing that was what we were talking about. Not oh my god guess what you said. And it felt like I said a false statement.

Yeah, well that's just where it's good to hear context, right? Like for a lot of interviews in sports, you know, if you especially press conferences, if you say it, like you can tell a whole story on a podcast, everyone can hear it, hear you laugh about it and just think, oh, that's not controversial. But when you take like those two sentences and you print them, it looks like, and somebody can make a story out of that, that becomes that's when people go back into their shells and don't want to say anything anymore, just because it's not, it might, I might even say that's not representative. Like that's,

I read that statement and I was like, yeah, that's cool, that's, that is what makes team events like cool. Who is actually offended by that? Who's upset? Was anybody upset? Like really actually upset? Yeah, that's where I come out with, yeah, thanks, thank you Chris for actually, you know, being with me on that is because

it just kind of shocks me is that when people, you can never satisfy everyone, right? You're always gonna piss off somebody. Everybody has something to complain about. And it means, including enough people, that's life, and I get that, but when they always want someone to be more outspoken, when people, they don't want the same answer.

They don't want the same personality. Well, if somebody says one thing I align, they crushed that person. So it's kind of like, and for me, I didn't even think I was gonna take a hit for it, because I didn't even know that was gonna happen. So then I went, wait a second, what energy was that, did I go, oh, and then,

and then I sat there and I went, did I say something wrong? And then you know, people blamed me for losing the phone and I, I, how did you blame somebody? So then I went, you know, whatever. Yes, I didn't play that great. But like, yeah, I lost all the points.

And yeah, you think I was, but my words didn't affect the game. I think the way people, I hope next time, was anything else happens to other people. I just wish that they could just kind of embrace the truth and embrace the reality and just have fun with it instead of criticizing. The criticizing is, kind of the the truth and embrace the reality and just have fun with it. Instead of criticizing, the criticizing is, because people criticize each other and they might be mistaken or I'm being misunderstood. But it takes away from the beauty of the game.

It takes away from the fun of the phone handcuffs and it takes away the golf. And the golf is what we're here for. So it doesn't matter what I said. It doesn't matter what I will say. It doesn't matter what anybody said. Just watch the golf and if you don't like it, you don't have to go crazy about it. I like the controversy though. Like that's it's fine. I could like I'll like people to just get all upset about something that doesn't require anyone getting more excited. Suzanne comes up to me and I'm going to be honest about this. Today came up to me at that week and she's like, dude, girl, because I know Suzanne really well and I adore Suzanne. She speaks her mind and she has erovia.

And she goes, girl, I'm so happy you started something and I go, dude, I didn't even mean to start it. And she goes, no, I'm going to come back at you with it because I've been waiting for somebody to start something. She goes, I'll step on your throat and I will, I love it. It's, but that's our combo. It's just funny. And a lot of people didn't take it lightly.

So I just hope that in the future, whether it's their Ryder Club, the Soul Hines Club, the UN, and you all international crowns, the President's Cup, it's all fun and no one's out there to harm each other. And just like now, just come together and help each other and understand each other more so that someone says this and that. And that's what I really hope people can do. That's what I call the Twitter trolls. Yeah. There's some hard sports. Well, take us to the SoulHimp Cup, then the actual event and everything to play out, which ended up being one of the most exciting

sporting events really of, of the last year. I don't know where, where you were at the conclusion of it and the emotions that we're kind of riding on, on everything. Honestly, the entire game, the entire entire match flipped in all three minutes. While we're off to any minute watching that final three minutes for everything flipped. I think it was pretty heartbreaking for us to lose because we didn't anticipate it up until the last three minutes. And, my knee, personally, I think it was very difficult for me to play in that kind of weather. And I played really well my final match, but again, I thought I was going to have to go on that.

And I think we made the most birdies combined in the entire day. But I thought that just wouldn't budge. And we went off the first, and I know Carlos that really well. She hit the far. And there were a couple mistakes I made on the part 5 where I know she's reaching and two so I just gambled and went for and even on 16 I know she can reach it but I can't and I have to lay out because it is a stupid crease and I can't cover it and I go, I have to lay out and I had a very opportunity.

My wedges were good and I missed that putt. That putt. I filled dream about it. More so than the 18 pull. Because people have said to me, God, that bogey on the last must have been hard to lose a point. Yes, however, it looked like I had an iron in my hand. I had to go for it. I had to. He had an iron on the par 5 and I was just trying to hit on the left side. I kind of mis-cited it by a little bit, but caught the lift, went back in the bunker. Didn't know it had that much sand. I pulled the trigger, hit it well, then it's another bunker.

So that's the hole I call. I sometimes look at myself and I say, I executed the six shots exactly how I wanted to. I made those. There's not the heck to move on it. However, 16-fold is what really bothers me is that I knew that that's tough was a little high. I had a feeling a little it was high and then I backed off, I re-lined it and then I went it's so high. But at that time we were all good behind and I was on the clock and I didn't I couldn't back up at the third time and I was really slow. I admit I was slow and a lot of other people were

slow too but I just thought to myself I was over the plan I was doing. No no no no I'll hit it on the I'll make it on the high side of the cup and I lift it and I went damn it. I freaking knew it was high. Why did I enter a lost battle when I was still there? But a couple of the memorable moments for playing with Lizette solid on that 36th whole day, we made that final putt to win that match and that was a huge point as we were the last team on the golf course and we were watching the scoreboarding all the way. That is one of the most memorable moments because my partner hit it close enough where I just went at my putt and I made it.

I keep saying, you know, I stole her thunder, but it's our thunder. So it was really, really great moment. We won that point. How long was the putt? Did the, uh, did the old Danielle can't quote come up at any point about, uh, about putt legs? No, not missing under five feet or whatever. Uh, I, uh, it was about, I honestly, I'm just gapping here. Probably 20 feet. So, it's like 20 feet, Lizah hit it to about 15. That was up first. It was just a really cool moment. It was raining, it was cold, there's a lot of people there.

And Lizah had an Ike just needed to put up point out because we haven't been playing very good. But I don't think it was our game. It's just how weatherman, it is so cold. It makes clothes reprieve. It can't lie, my toenail died. You know, my toenails died from that wound. They froze.

Just from the cold? From the cold. It was two of my toenails that were absolutely black. And I couldn't walk. And I obviously were a match, not cause our adrenaline junky. So during the moment, I don't feel it, but my goodness, it was so cold and I was shivering. And I think I have to get better at playing in the cold.

So I'm trying to go out when it's cold and biggest just to figure out how to play in the cold. My record in the cold is so great. Well, four way right said, you may have just covered it, but what's the one shot you wish you could have back? Is it that putt there on 16? With 16 putt, that's the one shot I wish I could have back.

That is the one regret I have. And your whole career? No, that week, that's the one. I have trauma, man. What about your whole career? Oh, it's all for a positive, huh? What about your whole career? What's the one shot you would wanna have back? Third, who I am, A and A last year. What happened? I All for a positive. What about your whole career? What's the one shot you would want to have back?

Third hole at A&A last year. What happened? I pulled at a hair. I didn't know that there was no B-L-F. That was just at the bottom of the car path. And I actually didn't know. And I think that was the fake fault. And I wish I could have that back

as I hit it faithfully pure out about. And I took myself out of the run in the A&A. I don't, I always tell people, I don't mind losing as long as I've done the best I could. And that one, I can't give myself that credit, it's because I took myself out of the running can. So early on Sunday, because I didn't know there was no. And not knowing is not acceptable to me. And it was just, I always give myself a little

miss tip, you know, a little gap. And I gave, that, that miss that I hit was the gap that I gave myself. And I went over there thinking it was perfectly fine. And then I went,

how was that obese? And I realized the O.B. line was very close to the bottom of the hill. If you hit with mostly just less of the rough, it will kick dead less and go be. Not what I didn't know. I wish I could have fasted the shot I regret.

But I probably have more regretting shots. I just don't remember. I three thought it's loose to Cindy Michaels, the Canadian woman, the amateur. That was the thing that I remember to. Oh, there was another shot at US Junior that I lost during the French one, the championship. Yeah, I can keep thinking about it. But I I'm going to go. Let's not bring up. All right. We'll get go. We'll keep going. Then what James Copeland you're the oddest fan interaction you've had during a tournament. I don't remember. If you think of it, let us know. We can come back during a tournament. Yeah, artist fan interaction

During the tournament is usually fine. I just don't like it when people break in a mouth hole Is there a story there? I've gotten my hotel room was broken into a couple of times. I don't know how they know where That's not what a bit weird Because I don't know what they're doing there. They didn't steal anything. Is why you were gone? Your hotel room was broken into? Yeah, when I was dinner. So that's where I get upset weirded out, but they didn't feel anything which makes it weirder. I wish they would have stolen something. Yeah. Yeah, this one makes you feel someone breaks in your house and they don't take anything.

But all your stuff is everywhere. So what were they looking for? That's where I go. I don't know. How did you get any fingerprints or anything, figure out who it was or how they got into your room? I saw a video, so I think they had a key card but a lot of the hotels what I often do is funny enough most of the hotels to go up to the front and then tell them okay last name, hang room 362 they usually give you the key. They don't I really ask for ID very often in that scenario. No not very often so I think that's where I get very nervous when I check in.

We'll say, oh, thanks for joining us. Ms. King, your room number 254. Like some people could hear that. So it's always asking us to know your room number. Yeah, or I don't know. Oh, we have security things where you get into the elevator. You don't push your button first thing by that. You think people want to find out these.

They can find out. Like I said, feel something. You think people want to find out these, they can find out. Like I said, feel something. I'm not encouraging people to do that, but for me, that was a bit, I rather would have found something's wrong that I was like, oh man, they took my computer. Yeah, then you at least know what they're doing

while they're in there. Yeah, that's bizarre. Luke McGrath asks, which course do you think you would have the best chance of succeeding on if you were to play in a men's US Open from the men's link? So a, Marion, which is 7,000 yards in 2013, Pinehurst 2, which is 7562, or Shinakok 7440 in 2018, which of those three would you have the most success on anything? Really quickly, I'm going to call in for a friend right now because I actually don't know the golf courses, but I would set the pattern number two. So, what do you think? Matt heard the questions though. Mary? He said, choice one, Matt has nothing to redo, but he said he will give me the best chance there. Okay. Well, except that is final answer. Okay.

Oh, God. Why? He keeps on, he keeps on encouraging me to go play a Monday qualifier on the PGA tour. Yeah, so we can spend more time together. How awesome. Why would you want to do that? Not spend more time with Matt.

I meant like actually Monday qual qualify for the tour of it. I thought about it when all my age determined Scott cancels and P.J. Troll was still up not because that when I had no opportunity to play in the women's event, I just wanted something to play in. I was looking for places to play, but yeah, in the future, if there's an opportunity,

I definitely would take the opportunity not an opportunity I would turn down option a though we would be option a that would be really I'm I'm I don't really thought about the Monday qualifier out I'm surprised more more women players don't play in like Monday qualifiers and stuff trying to get into tour events well we have to play the free Monday qualifier and then the Monday qualifier yeah that makes sense but we can't think of doing that because you don't have time That right. I know that makes it I know, but during when there are downtown I thought that could be interesting, but I hadn't really thought that through so do it in Hawaii

That'd be a fun story to follow you should do it. That'd be really cool All right, this is some I'm curious to as well. This is from at T. W. Fan Living in Vegas. How often do you go to the casinos and what's your favorite one? I actually went under the strip quite a bit. I love to eating out. I don't gamble, but I do love Bellagio and Arya. So one of my favorite restaurants are Yellowtail,

at Bellagio and Carbonara area. And I would watch a lot of shows. I've seen most and all of the sorts of cool issues. I went and go see, I went and saw Ari on a Grande, I went and saw Bruno Mars, honestly living in Vegas has been pretty awesome. Yeah, take me there. Yeah, because like I think people, you know,

obviously most tourists, no Vegas for Vegas for you know the strip and whatnot But what what is it like golfers rave about living in Vegas? What is it about it that makes it so enjoyable The more good things I say the more people are gonna move here. It might be true So I'm gonna start with don't move here and then it's too hot because yeah, what's gonna people here now? Is it growing? It's grown so much in the beginning it was just in the park and I are the only two women players here Far as I know and then in the men it was where I'm more stop here is the Kevin Nah and a couple of young LB guys and then now it has grown so much that I can name in name everybody But I've got a lot of friends here now, which has been a lot of fun.

But going back to the question, I guess I've year off a lot. The airport is the best. Easy in and out. Whatever you go is only a 20-minute drive. Your home is only 15-20 minutes away from the airport, and it is the easiest airport you just get through. And that's what makes it so much better for the golfers is the easiest airport you just get through and that's what makes this so much better for the golfers is the airport stress right and then the

golf courses there's golf courses everywhere here and they welcome pros more than any other places that I see they love like TPCs are my life that's my home course and I play there almost all the time, but let's I go to shadow with them again, but they love their approach. They are so respectful of us. They love having us, and that's what makes us want to be here. You know, some golf boards just to be a bit of high, some golf boards to be like, you know, kind of cautious on how many people they want on the golf course, off the golf course, and like, you know, kind of cautious on how many people they want on the golf course, off the golf course, and there's a bunch of many rules restricting, but these

two bars are so very welcoming, and they're just so proud of us. And I think that's what makes the golfers and Vegas love Vegas. The golf course isn't that close to being close to each other and the travel. And plus, it's not Vegas, which means if one of them wins, they're all having a party on the street, which is a full best night of their lives. And then on two, they could all go out and eat at one of the best restaurants in Las Vegas. There's just no loose situations. It just could get really hot and really windy. That's all. I'm sold. That was very, very, very, very convincing. Yeah, sorry. And just don't lose your. Okay, I'm not moving it was very, very, very, very convincing.

Yeah, sorry. And it's the total gap. Okay, I'm not moving it. Don't worry. At J. Miller, 2036, he says, one round at Augusta with three buddies or one round at your favorite local course with Tiger Woods, which would you choose?

Well, I'm round at my local course with Tiger Woods. I was going to, I thought you might go the other way. Why would you choose that? I don't have to fly. Go play somewhere. Tiger's coming over here. Why would I try to take that shit? Have you ever been to Augusta?

Uh, no. Is it? I told him about it. Really? I should? Okay. Oh man, really? Yeah. You have to now I

Found that Augusto was in Georgia Box here. Where did you think it was? I Never thought about being anywhere else. I just Didn't know where it was. I just I never I've never watched the master Never watched the masters. Is that any reason in particular? No, not really. I saw it's a tiger place two holes last year when you won. I don't know, I'm really usually playing a cross-chound or a cross-tank.

So, you know, one of my really close friends, I watched it because when I was playing the last few holes and then I don't want to bring that up but he didn't the water on the par 3 and then I saw. So I watched about two holes and then 2015 I was in the run, I ran over to TV and then even in the water and I was gathered. I was a bad loss in my channel. But, no, not particularly reason that I don't want to watch it or I want to watch it is just I haven't really had a specific drawing I guess my brother was playing in it or one of my best friends were playing in it, the fabric was playing it, I'd be there, I'd be watching you know, but I would rather be talking I guess because I have afraid of? So I I'm sorry.

Well, is it weird for like I remember seeing some tweet like when the Augusta National Women's Amateur was announced I saw a couple of one or two LPGA players tweeting like hey like when do we get to play it? Is it weird that you know? Obviously the men's pro game goes there and now the women's amateur game does but there's no women's pro event there Is it kind of like do do you see any growing animosity on the tour about any of that? I think a little bit. For me, I definitely thought about that as going,

a guy says a prestigious play, and I know a guy's stuff. I just, like I said, I was joking aside. Where it is, watching this entire tournament. Yeah, yeah, I get it. I wasn't ready to call background. I just never really, you know, I just learned to play. I didn't really watch, right? So putting that aside, the idea of the master

is what kind of draws me in to this entire controversy of women thinking, why don't we have our own. So master's tournament is a prestigious event. held at this incredible golf course called the Gustav Astral. Now, the women get to play it, right? So the amateur women. So I can see where our players are coming from and thinking, well, when are we going to get to play?

Because you don't have something like the Masters, where there's a $1 girl, two sandwich, and where people can't run, but they're all run, you know, back walking. Yeah, I'm doing a little motion, the back walking to their spot. And people wait years to get the tickets, and I hope the game grows, and I know we're trending in the right direction, and one day we'll get there. But for now, I don't want to demand, I don't think anyone should have anything. But I think it'll be pretty cool one day if we do get to play, because playing Augusta

is people's dreams, right? Now I know I chose Tiger Woods coming to Vegas, but I think that's a way better bet for me. Well, I just wouldn't have to get lost on your way to wherever Augusta is located. Hey, I got to take three friends. They could find them. They could find them. They could find them. They could find them.

Yeah, they could find them. Yeah. I said, you know what guys? No, it's true you guys. I'm going to take Tiger with all of my friends. There you go. Nick Loseito asks, he says, I'm interested in why LPGA careers

seem to be shorter than PGA. I understand pregnancy and family, but also curious if bigger persons would change that. As a fan, I would love to see careers like Tiger and Phil and Women's Golf competing till near 50. Oh, you got Julie in here? Julie's a charger. Mm-hmm.

I guess bigger persons can change that. Yeah, they could. Not there yet, I can't really speak for people. But speaking from me, from my perspective and in my thoughts, yes, I think if you go through a pregnancy, I don't know what it's like to go through a pregnancy, but I don't know if you're the same, right after pregnancy. You could be the same, but I'm talking from majority. On top of that, if you have kids, it's not a double standard. I think it's just really hard to have this career and Has off to the mom that I've had had this career. I don't know how they did it

But they're the outliers there. They can do it and I think we need to figure out a way But it's not easy, you know, no route is easy. I Actually don't know I don't know how women could just do up to 50 traveling the world like we do flying the commercial plane waiting in the airport. Not being able to spend time with your kids. Maybe there is a big bit of a difference between women and men and not sons. But this is not an easy life and we don't get to be home ever. We travel 30 weeks out of the year and we're all over the world. We're not in the United States only. We're about 30% out of the country. Sorry my

sorry commission by a Cesar Long Presented Chair but we have a lot of international presence. We're living in Asia, we're living in overseas Europe. It's not easy. And to have one, have a family and do that and play a full schedule really hard. So maybe a bigger person would change it. Maybe what maybe a bigger person would get more, people into golf itself, but I think just the lifestyle that gets the women

to retire earlier than men do. I think it makes sense. Yeah, that's a really good answer. A couple more. And we'll let you get out of here since you've got so much going on here. JB, I'm not laughing. I was not, I wasn't making fun of you. You saw I'm very busy.

What JB for three? How do you go about getting new equipment? Are the trucks as prominent on the LPGA tour as PGA? How often do you switch irons and wedges? I'll hang up and listen. We don't have tour trucks on our tour. So unfortunately, we have a tour band where the rest come out and the reps work together

along with our tour fans together. We've got the PXG reps, we got the ping reps, that's a calorie reps, those are the three people that are out consistently and the pedal stuff. Other than that, we have one band that they share. So answering that question, I don't really know what it's like you just it so bad

and switch bugs, unfortunately. I knew that to be the answer. I was just wondering if you... Is that why you said I'll just back and listen? I'm like, uh... No, that was his comment. It was all hang up and listen. That was not the editor.

Oh, really? Yeah, that was not the editor there. I don't think that... Yeah, a couple. I don't think a lot of people know that, though.'t I think it's just a genuine question like a that he had and people probably didn't know the details behind the van Or how that works on the LPGA tour, so yeah Thanks, whatever you like like I'll leave the your thoughts open on that one You sound like you have some more takes on that

But that's my own personal opinion. So I will leave my opinion out of this. Okay. I'll answer the question. Let's end with this one. Steven Castner says, how did the change in the CME Championship from the possibility of multiple winners being rewarded for year-long play to now one big check, which is $1.5 million.

For one big check, for someone that gets hot in the last week, how did that impact the tour? Should they go back to the old way, embrace this, or something else in your opinion? To be honest, the way he put it made me doubt it just now. I was like, well, the wording of that question just made me rethink my answer. Yes, I get it.

Somebody dies, gets hot one week week gets $1.5 million. But it's okay. Let's just regard that really quick. I think it's really great. The higher premises of the idea behind it is that there is the biggest check finally that we could win over a million dollars in a tournament. I don't care whether it's for one person or for, even if we did a season long thing, it's not as if we're all getting paid million here. So I think it's a great start to where we could be headed to if somebody has the opportunity to even win 1.5 million dollars seeing Piracy's.

I think that's pretty awesome. Now getting to the whole is a fair, what a, I don't know what's fair, what's fair, but you want 1.5 million. And to be honest, if I'm standing behind that 1.5 million dollar take, I'll tell you it's 100% fair. No.

Oh, fair. Yeah, fairs of wins, right? Yeah, if I want 1.5 million. So now I like it. I think it's a fun care at the end of the season. And it was very dramatic last year. That's for sure. So, maybe we could look forward to you holding that one day, telling us how wonderfully fair that is.

One guy did come up to me. What was it about Lee? For a bowie? I missed the pot on the final hole. And they're like, you can know that that was for to tie the lead ball abroad? And I went, yeah, I did. And he goes, well you lost it. You must not like money because you know, you missed it. And I just looked at it and I go, thank you. And then I just stood there and the map I thought was going, went into the club house, moved to the club house and he just

comes down, he looked up and then face and he goes, oh no what happened. I was gone for three minutes, what happened? And I went and then one of his buddies goes, some guys came up here and said, you must not like money because you missed that, but why would you leave that plus short? Because I left this short, right? And then, the mouth goes, oh, I'm sorry, I looked at it and it says, things began to remind me that I lost $1,500,000!

God! Before we leave, can you give us a quick sampling of the Pro Am voice that you debuted in our video? What's your pro-am voice? Yeah, what's your pro-am voice? Oh, God, I was blocking. Well, Chris, thank you so much for having me. I've been really honored to be on your podcast today and thanks for letting me be myself

always and hope to see you at Randy's channel on the call Chris again. I fully saw Randy at FOCA, was it at FOCA or yeah. So I hope that you guys again, I hope the Kia comes up to, um, I hope the world goes back to normal and we'd be able to all hold hands and think and buy us like we used to. I don't know how you're giving us straight face right now. So all right, well thank, well thank Maven the background there for his help on several of the answers and thank you for spending an hour with us and I'm sure listeners will greatly appreciate hearing from you. All right well thanks guys thanks for having me on this podcast again.

We'll see you soon. Always a pleasure. Alrighty. Get the right club. Be the right club today. Yes. That is better than most. How about it? That is better than most.

How about in? That is better than most. Better than most.