No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 303: New Tour Schedule! Plus Voicemails

Episode Date: April 16, 2020

The PGA Tour is scheduled to return at the Charles Schwab Challenge in June, and we discuss the new schedule, the downstream effects, what golf is going to look like when it comes back, and a lot more. Plus we take your voicemails on HR related issues, handicaps, captain's picks, and a bunch more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah. That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up podcast today's episode. We recorded this on Wednesday, April 15th in the morning. I am recording this section right now. On Thursday, April 16th, the announcement just came down from the tour on the new schedule.

We talked a lot about the schedule. The memo was circulated to players and there was, it was announced to players on the player, the pack on Tuesday. What these adjustments would be, we are mostly, mostly, mostly accurate at the time of recording, I know we kind of speculate on what's going to happen with the FedEx cup and everything.

That has been announced now that the Masters in US Open and everything that happens in the fall after the FedEx obviously will not be included in this year's FedEx. So if there's anything dated in that, it'll stick out, but just wanted to record this little announcement as to when we recorded the original part and when this is going up. So the rest should be pretty accurate. I want to give a shout out to again, our friends at Calaway Golf. They do this thing called, Education Wednesday. It's some sort of playing lessons with Roger Cleveland,

the video they just posted this past week on their Twitter, is Wesley Bryan and Roger Cleveland teaching you how to hit the low spinning chip. I still think about, I know they posted a video maybe a year or two ago with Phil talking about how he hit, how he hits fades and draws and I never understood, I just don't, I never thought about it the way he does which is he never changes his swing,

he only changes his setup. And sure enough, this education Wednesday episode, they show Wesley Bryan opening up his stance and opening up his club face to hit a low spinner which like blew my mind. I would have thought it would have been the opposite if you wanted to hit it low. You close the club face and close your stance potentially. So watching these guys actually walk through how they hit some shots has been a great learning

experience for me. So I would check that out on calwaygolf.com. I would compare and contrast that video with West Brian's roasting of tronon and it's gonna be which is on our YouTube channel as well That's you're not gonna get any more opposite ends of the spectrum so without any further delay Let's roll right into the podcast again check out the education Wednesday video on Calaway golf Instagram and Twitter feeds and let's roll on with today's show Mr. NG shoe is here Neil happy to. Tax day is supposed to be tomorrow, right? It's supposed to be today, but it got...

Is it the 15th or the 16th? 15th, always the 15th. Well, it ain't the 15th this year, and that makes me happy. That helps a little this year. T.C. is here. Hello, host Sully. Our resident schedule expert.

We're gonna get deep into that here in a second. Big Randy is here. Hello, Sully. Good morning. I'm shaking here. Hello, Sully. Good morning. I'm shaking my head at Neil, sorry. Well, Randy loves tax, eh? Big numbers, guys. I celebrate it.

Yes, he does. We are gonna talk, again, there was communication last night from tour officials to the players advisory council, on a conference called Tuesdays. Basically, the news that the PDA tour is scheduled to come back June 11th through 14th at the Charles Schwab Challenge. Schwab, Schwab, Sagan, Schwab, Schwab. What do we think?

What's the reaction to this news coming out? Something to look forward to, even if it's a bit optimistic, to borrow a soccer announcer phrase, you know, optimistic, I think. Optimistic? Yeah, I have a tough time. It's like, I don't want to get my hopes up. Of course, I hope that is the case, but I'm stuck between like, am I just a fool for,

you know, oh yeah, this is really going to be, you know, this is it. Or I don't know. So it's a bit of a weird situation. I mean, I think if you look around the whole sports landscape, you know, this is it. Or, I don't know. So it's a bit of a weird situation. I mean, I think if you look around the whole sports landscape, you know, all these professional leagues are essentially doing the same exercise in terms of like, you know, what, basically, when can we return, what's it gonna look like, et cetera, et cetera.

And so, I, you know, I think this is like golf iteration, but, you know, hopefully it will be reality. I'm not really reacting, because I thought this was what was gonna happen. This has been circulating for quite a while. Yeah, so I think it's tough to suss out what's actually on the books and gonna happen versus what's just a rumor, which is why

I don't report this stuff I guess too. I have a couple questions. Sure. How did they decide colonial gets to reschedule versus Valspar? So if you'll note this. So if you'll note this. Why does that work?

Carburetown, Memorial, Colonial, those are invitations. Okay. So those are kind of elevated status events. So if technically memorials, the only elevated status event of those, but they're invitational, yes. It's a whole nother category. So it's not a middle manager.

Just didn't want somebody coming after you. The tour is so busy, but as I understand it, those get first crack. Is that, do you think that's written somewhere? Like legally? Absolutely. Okay, the force measure, probably. Well, it's probably written into the sponsorship contract.

Like, same thing with with Arnold Palmer, in rotational, with Riviera. Okay. So they have like legal first crack at getting a spot. Well, yeah, I would imagine it has something to do with to this, this is pure speculation, but like the size of the sponsorship, right? So RBC also has another event that is getting, basically getting access to the Canadian Open, right?

So that, maybe that means that Heritage gets some kind of priority. Because again, the tour is, I would imagine the situation here is, we are trying to manage these relationships. This is not a, you get first call, it's like, hey, how do we, we wanna keep you for like several years? I hope that they're following the same model that Mike Wan talked about. So, hey,

RBC, we're not taking two of your events away. Like, we are going to give you one Schwab. I'm not sure. It's one of the longest run, the longest run event of the same spot. And with them being in such a 10-year spot a couple of years ago, the last thing you want to do is go. Sure. Yeah. So nationwide, I don't know for the memorial, I mean, they also host a corn fairy event. And it's an mysterious necklace. An mysterious necklace that helps a lot. So to answer your question, fuck Valspar apparently.

Yeah. No, I think it's why, that makes sense. I'm not telling. I'm not- It's for Florida. Like, you don't want to go to Florida, June. Yeah, no, I'm not saying that's the wrong decision. I was wondering if there was a manual.

There's obviously not a manual for this, but how they're under a parking order. Yeah, they're thinking through it in a pragmatic way so that these conversations are a little easier with sponsors. They have a reason to say to a sponsor why they're not getting rescheduled. My second question is, if there's no fans,

what had they thought about doing two events the same week? If Schwa, like now they're rescheduling events like Harbor Town is three months later, what if they rescheduled some of the ones that like why can't Valspar be opposite of something in the fall? Because then you're kind of stealing from Peter to pay Paul, like there's only so many guys, you know, granted opposite field events or against, you know, WGCs because those are limited field. But then if you think about all the guys,

like all these events, there's not 300, you're saying you could not feel a field. Well, I'm saying something would be better than nothing though for some of these tournaments. Like an opportunity, like wooden valspar say, but I'm sure I'll take it even if it's going to be like fringe corn fairy guys. Like, it's not a price tag is blah, blah, blah, million dollars unless you're getting like the mega discount on that.

You would not be heavily incentivized to do that because you're, if you're getting the fringe guys, that's, that's a, that, that like puts your tournament way down the pecking order. You know what I mean? Like that's a, that, that hurts you prestige wise in the tournament. I would imagine. They may have insurance policies too. Oh, so I don't honestly.

Yeah, that's pure speculation too. But if it's between running an event with like not good names versus caching an insurance policy, maybe they could have the decision. Keep in mind too, they've already can't like Valero, RBC, Heritage, like it's actually interesting. They technically canceled RBC Heritage, didn't postpone it. So it's listed on there, even with this recent news, still has canceled versus like Corralis

Puntacana Resort and Clucchin Abbeenship. I know Randy, you're a big fan of that one. That's the opposite field event versus the match play typically. That one is postponed. Okay. Match play is canceled. Match play is canceled. Okay.

So it's interesting to see canceled versus postponed. Also interesting, AT&T, Pyrann Nelson, RIP Trinity Forest, announced yesterday that they're going to TPC Craig Ranch for the next five years. That's a shame. Trinity Force just never got the right conditions or the right... They weren't given a lot of runway. Yeah. You talk to people from Dallas, it's just not a pleasant tournament experience.

It's hot. It's far away from, I guess, the normal golf areas. Sorry, the one thing on this subject that seems like would have to be a consideration is, and it's playing out in real time, things are fluid, of course, is just who has authority to bless these events for lack of a better word. So whether that's a state governor and state governor X, perhaps not signing off on allowing a sporting event like this, I think those are considerations as well, which a lot of this, you can guess on some,

but I don't know if you're gonna get final answers there. The ones that jump out to me where it would be somewhat in question, would be a place like Connecticut, Detroit. Even Ohio, I mean, with how stringent those governor-doines been up there. So it's just another wrench in the plan's potential. For me, the most interesting part of it all is looking at how they'll structure the actual competition element of it and seeing, all right, everybody who has their card this year

keeps their card next year. This is, I think this is rumored, but this is, I've heard pretty consistently for the last few weeks. Everybody that has their card now will keep their card. Anybody that like your card, you can keep it. Exactly, which I think most of these guys like their cards. You can improve your status through good play.

I think they'll probably add a category or something. But otherwise, the guys that have their card for the 2019-2020 wrap-around season will also have their card for the 2021 wrap-around season. And then from there, reach round, sorry. And then from there, nobody will get promoted from Cornfairy. Regardless, whether they play those events or not, they'll basically just loop those into a massive 2020-2021 and then do their 25 regular season, 25 web finals.

So the Cornfairy finals next year in 2021 could be like the ultimate sweepstakes. Yeah, while you were saying that for guys who want on tour, do you think they'll get? Does this season count as one of their two years of? That's a great question. I think you've got to give us some sort of credit with that.

And then how do you do major medicals, or how do you do the tours basically paying out a pocket for guys who are on corn fairy with health insurance and all that. There's just so many downstream ripple effects here and there. Another maybe dumb question, but for something like the Schwab or when these tournaments come back, what do you think, do you think they'll be, how do they do the signage?

Would there be corporate hospitality so they can put up the, you know, Schwab banner? I think no hospitality, but they could do just signage. Like big, big fencing basically. The signage is, yeah, for TV purposes, really, anyways. So I think there'll still be, that's good question. Yeah. What if guys are backstopped? That helps us signage is, yeah, for TV purposes, really, anyways. So I think there'll still be, that's a good question. Yeah. What if guys are backstopped? But that helps with signage.

No, but it helps because it's got to be much less to put the tournament on. Which is what I was getting at with the, like, I, you know, the economics of it, I don't know. But like, to be able to put on a, if you're saying it devalues something like Valspar, if you run it opposite. So a lot of the time, it's like, at least I got to do opposite. So a lot of the value, at least, I got to do something.

But a lot of the value comes from, again, I would imagine, a lot of the value comes from your television impressions, right? And if you are second fiddle tour event, where's that even gonna air? I don't even know if golf channel's not capable on Thursday Friday of airing two different tournaments, I don't think.

Sure. They do, for the WGC's's it's usually like they figure something out It's usually different time zones and you can kind of cross-match that but I yeah, it's it's not not a lot of people Going to be tuning in for a second billing. I guess part of my my thinking there was golf channels Hurtin like just like everybody else all these networks are because they don't have live sports for three months Would they want would they want to cover a tournament like that because it could be an opportunity to make up some revenue, like an opposite field? Yeah, well, they're going to be covering the other one too, though, is the thing.

It's expensive as hell to have a whole crew travel somewhere and yeah, and they're cutting personnel as it is. And then also, I think it's, I'm not sure there's that many sponsors and advertisers lining up right now as it is too. So, it's kind of, I think it's just like, let's figure some events out. And like, again, that's, it's a Randy's point too. It's like, this is all like super best case scenario.

I'm kind of surprised that they're not gonna do anything here in Jax at TPC. That would seem like a really easy like lay up all the infrastructure. It's coming down though. It's been coming down for a while. But just as far as for to stage an event, not like for fans and stuff, but just, you know, there's places, there's basically a hotel on site for players. There's all sorts of, you know, there's been events over there the last couple of weeks. Guys have been doing like two day events, four hundred twenty dollar buy-ins and a lot of pros have been, you know, sixteen pros, assimilating and playing a two day tournament and stuff. It's, yeah. The tours have been somewhat involved in the

organization of it and stuff. It's kind of, it's, I mean, guys are staying, trying to stay busy. Well, then they're going to, they'll have to test, I guess they're going to test all the players that play and at least the first four events They're gonna spend a couple hundred thousand dollars testing them No support staff as I understand it other than caddies What are the managers gonna do what are the managers gonna do with their how what are the players gonna do without the managers? They're a Bluetooth earpieces in can you imagine how efficient the range sessions are gonna make when you don't have just like Not for brides. I'm out of that's what I'm gonna do without the towel Bryce is gonna hold team and the water man the doom in the spritzer unbelievable

And then yeah media. I mean what are we like is media gonna be? I would have to allow Like they're gonna one exposure on the events, but they're gonna have to test media then too, right? Yeah And then like all right, so so if you're testing everybody, what are you gonna do? Like when guys are traveling in, or, you know, there's no way to isolate everybody in a different city each week

and have them not come into contact with the general public. Yeah, I was like optimistic when we started this and now it's talking about it. This is just like, no fucking way. Do these guys all want to get on planes every week? Like that's a thing too. It's like, I don't know.

People would be coming from different countries too. Yeah, the fact that the argument of golf, you play it out over such a big piece of land, you can stay distant, is kind of offset by like, we're traveling literally from city, from hotspot to hotspot over. Like even in the first, you know, a few weeks, like you're going up to Connecticut,

you're going, it's like, jeez, I don't know. Like do you want all these guys rolling into hills and head or there's a bunch of old people? You got to test them every week, right? I mean, I would think if you fly, if you travel, you're coming in contact with other people, if you're eating out while you're here, and even the most, I know we, everyone everyone's taking precautions but even like the most innocent transaction can

transmit the virus. Well, you were texting about last night. It's this whole like potential new schedule does does feel more like the tour of old, you know, or it's it's a it's a true you know, it's kind of some of those middle tier events. Yeah, you got travelers, you got, so like the old greater heart for open, you've got John Deere right there in the, in the thick of it, like getting better fields, getting all that. I think, I think that's a cool one that in that vein. What if they said, well, nobody can fly. Everybody's got it like, he just went a big like, like Mr. Palmer used to do and everyone's caravan and it's like, it's like

the travel in circus again. That would be so. Or they're chartering a bit of, you know, I'm sure you could find a deal on a seven six or a row. I think she could, she could, the, like, tour buses, like bands do. Just, you know, like, all right, shack up fellas, you know, we're gonna keep you isolated.

Let's take a quick break while we have the opportunity here to thank our friends at Urbill Active, URB, AL, AC, TIV. You've heard me mention they are offering a three pack for $15 of hand and surface sanitizing spray. Can't get that at your local store. And while you're there, obviously you want to be sampling. There are many of their CBD products that they're offering. And in this time, this weird quarantine time, whatever you want to call it, they're offering

a new discount, 25% off that we're extending on to our followers. promo code NLU20. That's until April 30th, you can get 25% off all of your CBD needs. Neil, you're going for it right now. That's a good reminder. I didn't take it this morning. Tell us about it. What do you do?

Well, real quick, Saul, I think you said NLU 20. 25 NLU 25. I know you did just count. Sorry, I just a verify that. Randy, you're feeling extra generous. 25% off. It's, that's the strap discount right there. Neal's using how many milligram drops right now?

I get the 750. 750, that's what I use. That's my, that's my standard go to, four or five on the tongue and or in the coffee keeps it between the mustard and the mayo. You do it before bad as well. Not every night. I know TC is more of a before bad guy. I am.

I'm a post dinner. Post dinner. Yeah. Help you just kind of chill. Yeah. Like I have to have the coffee, but sometimes it gets me to jolly as you can probably see from me interjecting with all the questions. It's great.

So now that I've taken the herbal act of maybe I'll cool off a little bit. Tell us about your music. Your jam sessions you guys have been having up here. Well, the pie man and I, that was on our Instagram. We've been, yeah, getting deep in the, in the scene, trying to stay entertained and busy during quarantine. The neighbor finally came over and said things were loud. He's working from home these days. So we're trying to, we're trying to compromise and find a, that was a good time of day. That was coming for sure. I tried to soundproof the studio, but listen, we were just going hard on Jimmy Hendrix.

We're shutting the studio down. But yeah, it's been fun. And yeah, we mixed in herbal active on the social story, which was fun too. It was well done. So, you mentioned the, the strap discount. Is this, is this equivalent to the locals discount that they got out in California?

That was, we need to talk about that. I was waiting for somebody to bring it up, right? Listen, we did not trade on NLU's name. Before we, before we go, you are B-A-L-A-C-T-I-V-N-U-T-I-F-E-25 for your discount code, please do. I put a lot of great feedback from people on it and they're thrilled with the partnership and everything.

So thank you for everyone that supported or proactive during this time. But yeah, let's explain the local rate. Well, no, we walked, if you walk in, and all of a sudden, it's from the beginning, from the top. What are we even talking about? Randy was in the pro shop. I was at a...

Where are the series? Are we talking about? We're talking about the strapped LA. So it's season six. Southern California. Southern California. Not LA, right? Where's the county?

Well, we get, we know know we work our way up to North of LA. Okay, so it's it's Southern California. We're at San Clemente municipal golf course down in San Clemente. I think I'm saying that right delightful spot. Yes, it was great and so two things I want to mention one we got the local rate we play with Brennan Thomas who is a local, and we were in the pro shop, where Annie was in there, and they were like, yeah, you know, like a kind of a,

as a muni tends to do, yeah, sure, you guys are locals for the day. And I also heard from some comments in the YouTube channel that they never ask anyway, like everybody gets the local rate. Like some guy said, like, yeah, they never, they never look at your ID. So it's just kind of like, that's what it costs.

Well, no, to piggyback that the T-Time was in our name. We, for four people, kneeling myself and DJ and Brendan. And I went into the shop and I said, you know, big Randy, one o'clock or whatever it was. And she said, oh, are you guys playing with Brendan? I said, yeah, he's our fourth. He's, he's in our T-Time. She said, oh, well, I'm with Brendan? I said, yeah, he's our fourth. He's in our tea time. She said, oh, well, I'm going to give you guys the local rate.

Brendan's here all the time. I said, really, that would be absolutely wonderful. You know what guys? She had no idea who we were. We didn't trade on the name. I think that's well within the strap by loss. Guys, this sounds like you were on the receiving end of a positive rub of the green.

Yeah. TC couldn't have said that. Totally cool with that. I did want to ask about the show up of a positive rub of the green. So, TC, couldn't have said it right. Totally cool with that. I did want to ask about the, they show up with a local golf celebrity in the area to get a discounted tea time. Not intentionally though. Yeah, it didn't happen.

It sounds like it was about the world. We're living in a tent-based world. That's right. I do want to talk about, you guys made some money gambling. I don't want to speak for, for Neil, but I think you might have to have a talk with DJ the narc about that.

I think that's a, you know what, but what risking our budget, like we're allowed to do whatever we want, but this is the perfect scenario for DJ to sandbag around. Exactly. It's the strap boys,

it's the C-suite's money that he's losing, right? Out of the budget. So why not put this right? He doesn't want to. Hold on, hold on. But he could easily put it and then make the content better with that extra $30, right? He's got a stake in the game.

Well, I think if you were to shoot him a true serum, he would say the content gets better the less money I have. And the diner boys kind of beat him up a little bit. And I also say, guys, like we ended up just giving the money right back because we ordered like three Pacificos at dinner. Like dinner got out, we got out of our skis. We were right back on on pace.

Like it's not like we're hoarding the money. Like we ended up just drinking it away. So. And that's supporting the local economy. Not by paying the local rate, you're not supporting the local... Local rates people that pay taxes. That was their decision. Which hands were...

Which really, you know, I wouldn't be surprised that the state of California came after you for taxes on that $30. They've been known to be aggressive on... Well, good thing, it's not tax day. Oh? That's tomorrow, right? Anyway, Straff's on YouTube, so if you go watch it or don't, check it out.

It's a bit, guys. It's a bit. You guys want to get to some voicemails? Would you? Would you? These are in no particular order. Thank you to everyone that called 1-833-330-TRAGE. I think is what it is.

But here we go. Hey, guys. This is Tom calling from Connecticut. I hope everyone's staying safe during quarantine. And just like you guys, I'm coming out of binging some masters, rewinds all weekend. But I wanted to say, I was seeing a lot of hate for the 2018 masters just on Twitter and everything.

And I got to say, going back to the What If podcast, gotta rewatch it because I would argue it's one of the greatest final rounds ever at Augusta, we have to eat, and what if you didn't clip that tree branch on 18, I just wanna get your guys take on that, all right? Wash your hands, wash them good, bye. Great message there Tom. Thank you Tom.

No one's saying it's not a great rewatch. I think the people at Augusta National are not thrilled with the final result. Hence, I think I think it's their biggest what if more so than for us. They're probably like, God, what if what if it didn't clip that tree? Then we wouldn't have to put the green jacket on on read. Well, I just made the point on Twitter. It was like, I haven't on, on, on read. Well, I just made the point on Twitter, it was like, I haven't seen one fist pump from read.

I don't know what he was wearing on that day. I haven't seen one image in any, like we've seen images from Sergio, even Danny Willett, like everyone from the past 10 years, if you've, like, worn the masters they've shown, like you in the highlights, I've not seen one ever since, like ever since you, I don't remember what he did on the 18th green.

I got nothing. I got nothing. he's a complete gentleman an absolute gentleman Yeah, according to the better more of a gentleman about it. I'm looking at the third round like the third round leader board you got read Macrib Ricky rom stensen fleetwood leashman bava Speed and JT I mean that is that might be the best leader board I've ever seen before. And obviously, Travis, over again.

To Randy to come on this, but like Ricky's run at that one, that one was real. 65, 67 on the weekend. Am I right? Yeah. I mean, that was a... Was that a backdoor second place? A little bit for sure. 65, 67 adds up to the same thing as 66, 66. Just want to give a shout out to him, I can't do you. No, for Ricky's sake, that was probably the biggest sweat I think I've had.

Ricky wise in a major. It's worth noting, read one that tournament. And what I mean by that is he just, he was solid. He was solid down the stretch, right? It wasn't like somebody choked it away. You know, he just, he hit golf shot after golf shot for the last four holes and vaporized Rory, which was, I was gonna say, is this, is this where Rory,

maybe like, maybe he got placed in the ICU or something after this, but like this was, he shot 74. He ICU or something after this, but like this is, he shot 74. He was three back going into, going into the final round and then, you know, just lay to an egg. Lay to an egg, yeah. See me four.

I think this is, this would be about that time when he gets on the radar of, you know. He got diagnosed. Things just aren't looking good, yeah. Prognosis is tough. We caught it late. But a lot of people were assigned to that. Like, well, did he win it?

He still won it. It's like, I think you're kind of missing the point. I'm saying like Augusta is legitimately trying to bury this. And somebody pointed out like all the thumbnails for the win. Like they have the final round, the master's YouTube channel has the final round broadcast for every master's, basically ever that since it's been televised. And the thumbnail is, for everyone is the winner

in some form and the thumbnail for the read one is Fowdo and Nancy. I cannot read, that's awesome. It's kind of sweet that Augustus. They're not even trying to hide his point. They don't say anything, but their actions always speak louder than words, which is pretty sweet.

Which, yeah, there were stories going around that there was green Jack, green suits, they were everyone calling them that were like, disbumping when he would miss Puts. I had forgotten quickly the John Rom shot a 75 in the opening round, or else he would have been, you know, his round two through four were exceptional. But the speed run is what I'll remember the most because that was real. That was very real. The shot he hit into 13 off the pine straw. And he still, I thought he was gonna make that final putt

on the 18th green. And the way he said it to, he was like, if I had to just hit that green regulation, the thing was going in. So, and that would have been for 62. And would have tied me. Same thing with Speed though, was his second round when he comes out shooting 40 on the front nine after,

like I had given him the tournament after the first round. Like, oh, this is over. He's gonna win by. How he's only one master still is the biggest mystery. I literally looked that up the other day. I was like, how many masters? Like Jordan Speedful.

Three. I was like, my missing one here, it's like one. I'm like, man. And it was 21. Like how many cumulative rounds has he led? You know what I'm saying? Like he led the tournament for two straight years until.

It was seven straight rounds he led after. He went wired a wire in 15 and then the lead after every round except the final round in 16. He should've, he was beating Bubba in 14 after the seventh hole or something like that. And Bubba just, he didn't make another birdie after that. But he just, he's like, Grelert take the wheel. He, let's see, birdie one, birdie two, birdie five,

birdie eight, birdie nine, birdie 12, birdie 13, birdie 15, birdie 16, bogey 18. So, I agree. It's a great rewatch. I'm not hating on the 2018 Masters. I think it's just the final result is what. Can I confess, I really haven't watched too many of the replays and everything.

It just depresses me too much. Like, I just don't want to, like, once I open that door, I just start thinking about what if and getting sad. Well, you're saying with speed or with just the masters, like just watching the masters last week was. See, look at this way though, we might get bonus. This little rewatch period would have never happened if they didn't postpone the masters, and we're still getting one this year, and then we're going to get another one in four and a half months. So that's the way I try to look at it optimistically.

But yes, watching guys navigate that course, watching just the golf course evolve over the years and all the all the history elements, just knowing how certain puds break and stuff like that, watching all that over the years has been an absolute treat to watch. So all right, let's watch in the course devolver. Yeah, that's adding rough and adding trees is like even it It sticks out even more the more the years go by so all right. Let's get to the next caller This is the person packs more Carolina the year 1997 60 year old hail Irwin

tear out the champions tour and then called the senior tour Tom Coyot, the Ryder Cook captain, considered his picks. Haleur once considered the ultimately not chosen. What I'm wondering is what would it take in this day and age for a champions tour player to make the Ryder Cook? Would he have to win every event? Would it never happen ever again That's what I'm wondering All right Tommy told us

Well, I would argue I looked long and hard at putting burn hard on my team He would have been a great fit for France. Yeah, like he really would have I think That's what I'm wondering you know, I think part of the worry is What happens in a team competition with with an anchor man. That's true. I was going to say, I've longer didn't make it any of the teams last 10 years than this probably never happened. There's just no reason for it to happen. Well, look at what's awesome. What about look at somebody like, like, what's they fear comes out and splits this time between the champion's tour in the game. And wins a major. Yeah, wins a big tournament on the PGA.

Just mirroreds across the champion's tour. You know, maybe he gets a look. I think to answer the question, Phil would be the answer, right? If he's turning 50 this year, is he tied to glory to become a champion's tour player? Yeah. I don't know. It'd be kind of fun if, you know, the writer cup, you had to pick one champions to a guy. That was kind of like the mid-AM that goes on the

Walker Cup team. Yeah. I like that idea. That'd be cool. Just to throw a little. I doubt they do that. Right. He's saying, he's saying if you had to pick one junior player to you. You big junior writer cup guy. US has been killed at the junior Ryder Cup. I get hyped about that. No, what was, well, J-Hoss, I believe was like a 51 year old captain's pick in 2004 or something like that. He was a killer though.

Yeah, maybe not so much in 2004 Ryder Cup, which didn't go that well, is more of an indictment of kind of the status of American golf at that time, which that's kind of of the 2004 Ryder Cup, which didn't go that well, is more of an indictment of kind of the status of American golf at that time, which that's kind of the overall takeaways, like the depth for both sides now is just completely different. I don't know if you guys saw it in the 2016 replay yesterday, I had forgotten some of the people

that were on that European team. Chris Wood was on that team, Andy Sullivan was on that team. That didn't go that well for the Europeans. Yeah, I think the course set up was bullshit though. Content to agree that that seems to be a trend in the last four years. Let's get to the next question. Hey guys, this is Ryan, local caddy of TPC Sawgrass.

I just wonder if we get a shout out for our GoFundMe page. He's called Sawgrass, Caddy Emergency Relief Fund. This is supposed to be the busiest time of the year and we're not working at all. So I just wondering if we get a shout out, really appreciate it. Thanks, guys. Shout out. That's your shout out right there. There's one going on for the band in Katty's as well. So we're going on for Keeowah Katty's. Outpost Club has their thing going on. There's all sorts of, I know Pinehurst did a big thing. So yeah, a lot of good causes out there.

Yep, so if you have the means to help somebody out a lot with their livelihood, we definitely encourage you to. We've got a few causes of our own going on here, which we're keeping you guys informed of as well, but just wanna give them a shout out. So there you go, one more, let's go to the next one. Quentin Brown call from new jersey

i just wanted to say i don't understand how tiger woods had nineteen whole of ones in his first twenty years and only one in the last twenty years it was the most shocking thing i think i've ever heard and also how was he not wearing red yesterday i was so pumped up to see tiger Woods. I needed him in red. But besides that, I just want to say I want to get more like Big Randy. I need his

spirit flow. I feel like I have some Icarito in the golf course. So like I would love to play around with Big Randy because I just need that uh that flow that he's got on the course. Have a great day. You guys are doing awesome. Thanks for all the content. I think you, Quentin, it would be a real treat to play with you as well. Maybe, maybe Quentin could sub in for me. If he's got some akerido tendencies, it sounds like he'd fit right in. The cat not being in red, that was an upset. I thought he would have been, but I could think it kind of goes towards him mailing it in a little bit for that. Or maybe he takes a red seriously for only golf, right?

Like, he would have talked about as the commentary on the masters. Rainbait, not yesterday, man. Maybe it was gonna cheap in it if he wore red. He wore it for the match is what I would say. Do you think the whole one question's a good one? Do you think it's because he changed his ball flight? No, this is a 100% tigerism not true thing,

like a 100%. I really like comics. Like this did not happen. Can we get a whole new one? His just to be clear, his wrist did not pop out of place at the 2015 masters and pop it back in and play the remainder of this round. This is one of those things that...

Well, I saw you gonna tell me Santa Claus isn't really? I might. The Mac Daddy Santa Claus is not real. Well, time out. What do you think is in true that he had 20 hole in ones or that he's only had one sense? I don't think that whatever, I don't know how many hole in ones he's had,

there's no chance he's had 19 before 2001 sense. Like I just don't know. See, I believe it. I think it's true. I just don't know how that even makes any kind of sense. Well, I don't know if you can, the whole one's are things you can really lie about. Sure, you can. I got two that I lie about. All right, I stay correct. It's a state. I don't know. It's just kind of, it's one of like, somebody sent a DM once that was just like,

hey, you know, I listened to your interview with Tiger, just so you know, like he never had a paper out. Like in the interview, he claims like he had a paper out to go and buy comics. Well, no, but the best part is the, the key answer to question you didn't ask. I asked him what his most underrated skill was. Or like, I just wondered and be like,

yeah, people have not yet. Any pause, then he says, I really like comics. That's like, really? Really? All right, so I'm gonna push back a little bit here because he said three in PGA's work competition. Okay.

None. After, he had 96 at the GMO, 97 at Phoenix, the one everybody saw and then 98 at the Sprint International out of Castle Pines. So he's had three. There he has it, had one sense in competition. So that would tend to get his first one at the age of six. So that's four. So this might be in some of the early lying about it category.

Maybe he only counts worstball. He's out playing by himself. He's known to play two balls, best ball and worst ball. I just, I find it hard to believe he has not, he's made exactly one since the year 2000 like that. So that's kind of what it was getting at. What do you find hard to read? You just made it, too, right?

So it was at, yeah, during the Vegas week or whatever, during the match week, when I was playing and he wouldn't play with Freddie somewhere during Thanksgiving week. I don't know, I have find it hard to believe that you can play that long enough. I don't know, I feel like I don't. Maybe it doesn't play golf much.

I don't feel like I get close to hitting any home once because my ball doesn't roll out when I play. Maybe the ball has changed, the equipment's changed, maybe he's not getting bounce and roll. Like, it seems like people that get a lot of home ones hit balls at bounce once, twice, and then they roll 10 feet. And maybe his game isn't, I mean, he's the cat, this game is pretty malleable.

I mean, what a weird thing to lie about. But that's what I'm saying. So highly specific. The solid original point. So the point was just like, hey, just so you know, he is, he does this about things that I don't think he knows he's lying. I think he just has believed them as truths into existence. So like, yeah, I used to go, you know, have a paper out to go by comics and I was like,

again, no, there's like no evidence that he ever had a paper out. And the book, the Army Catan's book, Tiger Woods, talks about how there were some, like playground incidents as a kid that were not validated in any way, like they're just flat out, have been spoken into existence that didn't happen. So all I'm saying is that the three

in competition plus, you gotta anticipate, I would imagine you had a, you had Stanford, I would imagine, because he was probably playing a lot more than a teen, right? 19 or a lot though. That's what I find that probably harder. I mean, ZB, ZBs had like 10 or 11. Zack's dad's had more than he can,

like he legitimately doesn't remember all of his hold. The only way to explain it is like growing up, golf courses hadn't been lengthened yet. He was still hitting it really far. He's playing a lot of junior tournaments, a lot of tournaments that you know, you're hitting wedges into part threes and those go in. And now ever since 2000, every part three ever plays is so many yards blah blah blah

But still that I don't know any any was like the best you've made two hole in ones in the last three years You're saying you made more in the last three years three hole in ones in the last two years What was the third one jacks beach? Oh, that's right Hey, and I made a fake hole in one And I made a fake hole in one, too. You made a fake hole in one. So you've made three in the last three years. Tiger Woods has made one in the last 20. Yeah, but TC had none before that.

Yeah, I had none for my first, you know, 32 years on earth. No offense. Tiger Woods is more skilled than TC, so. But that's kind of the thing. Like, there's a lot of it down there. I know there's randomness to it, but but i just i find that balance to be unlikely i very very little faith that that exact count is correct how about that that's fair twenty is around numbers well

yeah which which is randy has a test to that that's usually a signal of accounting fraud that that's very good you know you are paying attention oh yes all right next question howie uh... ryan from All right, next question. Howdy, I was Ryan from Virginia, or from Orlando, Virginia. Just wanted to say, love the content, everything you guys have going on.

And, you know, I really didn't think about what I was going to say before I called this. So, I saw the tweet and, you know, probably guys are, I was like, I was like a cancelist now that I started to, I don't know, I think that gets a big, hey cool man. I just love that. I did war land though. It did. Thank you for the call. It didn't sound like a bit is why I actually like that. But it sounded like, oh yeah, I didn't think this would always. Listen, as someone who also thinks a lot,

doesn't think before doing stuff a lot, I appreciate that call. That's the gym room. Yeah, I'm blaming. I'm out. Hey guys, through current from Greenville, South Carolina, Taunt. Maybe you guys won't be there at the BMW charity pro end this year

to kind of sucks. But anyway, I'm sure you guys won't be there at the BMW Charity Pro in this year to kind of sucks, but anyway, I'm sure you guys can be a riveting game of NBA horse last night. I'm wondering at what point in time during this quarantine we're going to get to the golf equivalent of that, which I imagine will be two tour pros squaring off in a track man combined from their basements. So what's the most boring golf content that we could possibly produce during this quarantine? Cheers. Great question.

I think we've already seen it. All the trick shots. Good. Yeah, don't do not slide into the DMs sending trick shots. It's not our thing. It's a big Randy. That's a big, that's big. That's big Randy's thing.

Yeah, he's a trick shot. Although I was the one trick shot I do That's a big Randy's thing. Yeah, he's a trick shot guy. Although I was the one trick shot I do like is when the people set up the, almost like the erector set down the, like down the stair, like off the, off the plate down the stairs, hits the dominoes, goes down the pipe, like the happy Gilmore put through the scaffolding and then, you know, it goes in a cup at the end, everyone freaks out. I kind of get a kick out of it. All right, send those to Ed.

And she shoots. Send those to me, I like those. Yeah, take it all the way, take all the trick shots. I didn't watch the horse thing, was it that bad? It can't be good. I think people, the reason why I wanted to address this question is I think people, way, it's like, oh, he just throws some drones out there

and follow them around. It's like, you don't want to watch that. You don't know what has to go into actually making video production watchable. And I just don't think streaming like a pros round would be that intriguing. I think we film a lot of shit with pros and stuff and we cut out all the bullshit

and turn it into a little 30 minute video. That I think could be more interesting but there's just a lot of rules wrong with it. I would also say that the horse game, I didn't watch it, but wasn't it like Zach Levine and Paul Pierce? They had a bunch. They were like eight. It was a whole, it's a whole tournament. So they had 16 people. Randy's boy, Joube, NBA, NBA, train young guy. That's your boy in Atlanta. But it's like, Sully said, it's not being professionally

produced in the sense that they have to film themselves. Like they have to get a friend or a spouse to like film them on a phone. And then that gets fed to ESPN and like you get two of those, plus the guy in the booth kind of facilitating the conversation. It just isn't like,

you know, two people show up to the gym with this whole camera crew and play horse. So it was a little choppy. I enjoyed, honestly, like, I watched a couple matches. I probably enjoyed just the banter or the, almost the interview of the people more so than like,

oh my god, look at that shot. Because it's not like they're hitting like amazing shots or anything. And the overall point, don't leave it to golf to come up with something that's gonna crush it here. Like this will, it will get watered down. There's tour rules around all this stuff, like staging competitions and all this stuff.

So the agents will get involved. The tour is gonna get, yeah, you can't, like it's just not likely for like Ricky to go take his phone out there and stream his left-handed match against JT. Like it's just not, it's not like a realistic thing. So, what would you say would be worse? Is there any other nominations for, what could be the worst golf content?

Worst golf content. I don't know. We may make it in the next two months though. We're just taking a quick tip. We don't wanna ruin any surprises. Yeah. They'll know it when they see it. Well said.

I don't know about you guys. I've kind of enjoyed the old rewatches and stuff. Because we would never do this otherwise. These moments just kind of get lost to history. And just even watching the final round of the Radar kept the other day was just kind of like, oh yeah. I kind of forgot I was there and I forgot all the stuff happened and I like the masters ones when I was doing like research for the

Greg Norman pod when I kind of had a purpose for them they were they were interesting because then it was like Anything extra was like oh man look at that guy's outfit like I had kind of a reason to be there But I don't find myself turning it on Right you wouldn't seek it out. Yeah, exactly. There's a ton of value just having something playing on TV. I wish there was more like early 80s, even just all 80s stuff. I feel like that's a big blind spot.

They don't, it's kind of caught between being classic golf and being more recent, exciting. It's, I don't know, that's kind of a blind spot for me as far as seeing replays and stuff. I wish they'd put more of an emphasis on that. I want the 79 players, the one at Sawgrass Country Club, the one that Lanny won, that was just a complete chaos. And like, dude, it's like, I had a mutiny in the clubhouse afterwards because the golf course was too hard. So yeah, which by the way, some stuff I'm uncovering for the Kiwapad that I'm working on is the 91 rider cup is supposed to be at PGA West, but it was in 87 players that circulated it,

signed and circulated a petition to not play that golf course game because it was too hard. And the spirit of no bad ideas. Maybe we should do a pot about the loss podcast. Like, of course, is where we've lost it. Like, it's gone. Like, over par, US opens. Like, when it just got totally out of hand and like the highest, highest four round totals ever and what happened.

Anyway. Brandy's spirit died with that. No, it's, no. Let's discuss it. With the US open, the US open no longer being over par on your spirit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So all right next caller. Hey Paul. This is all the jacks Mississippi long time listeners first time caller. I just wanted to get you guys opinion on who was a who was hurt the most by the cancel tournaments. Sure. cancel tournaments sure, Cheryl Hatton is coming off a win, but how about that McKinsey used up back to back 66 on Saturday and Sunday. I didn't know if you guys had heard about

that yet, but I wanted to let's all know, get your all stakes. I'm going to hang up and listen now, Paul. Thanks. Roll tide. I just had to get the hate Paul in there. I would say who was, who was hurt? I don't know, a lot of guys playing well. Like, are you hurt or you injured? You know, I mean, Hadecki shot 63 at the players. That, that sucks. Yeah.

I'd like to get wiped out, that really sucks. I would say who was hurt the most? Probably all the guys on the corn fairy tour. Yeah. The whole year where there's no one getting promoted from that. Yeah, and, you know, I would say who has hurt the most? Probably all the guys on the corn fairy tour? Yeah. The whole year where there's no one getting promoted from that. Yeah, and you know. It's gonna get populated on that tour very quickly then,

with a lot of talent. Yeah, that hurts the most. And the guys that we're banking on getting a ton of starts and the remaining portion of the year that probably aren't gonna be able to get in fields. And. What do guys do? I guess there's not gonna be a queue school this year.

What do guys do that are graduating from college? Hey, they didn't get to play in the NCAAs. Then be they're graduating from college. They can't go to queue school straight off. Yeah. Well, the college, these guys are going to play another year, I think. Is golf technically a spring sport? Because I know it counts as the fall.

But I know, you know, I know some, some athletic departments are petitioning to be, you know, not like I know Wisconsin said, Hey, we're not going to do it for. Yeah, it's not it's not part of the, it's essentially available. Should the player and the school like both agree to it? Like the school is not forced to, I don't believe. Okay, but those players could transfer somewhere else or, you know, they're, but yeah, that's, that's a good question. I don't believe. But those players could transfer somewhere else or, you know, they're, but yeah, that's a good question. I don't know. I think for better, for worse, for a lot of

people that are on the fringes of ProGolf, our mini tour guys are trying to get status on Let's You Know America, Canadian tour. I think this will likely end a lot of careers. I think a lot of people that were kind of, you know, if they don't even have that up playing opportunity that I don't know how long people are going to stick in ProGolf. And they a lot of people that were kind of, you know, if they don't even have that up playing opportunity, then I don't know how long people are gonna stick in ProGolf. And the volume of that number of guys is unimaginable. It is, there's just so, so many of those guys. And I think that is gonna get weeded out some.

I'd say also, you know, think about maybe somebody who qualified first time for the senior AM, or the women's senior AM, like, so many people like that who may have, like first time for the senior AM, or the women's senior AM. Like so many people like that who may have, like first time ever, looking forward to this big event and it gets wiped out, canceled, not, you know. Forbal too. And there's, yeah, there's no guarantee

that there'll be part of any other ones in the future. So. Which feels like, God, just make those spots. Yeah, I get him into 2021. I think that makes a lot of sense. I don't understand just completely wiping out last year's for ball, but I'm sure that there was a, well, like what if you can't qualify again this fall?

So like why wouldn't you just keep those qualifications for 2021 when they have the for ball there? So who knows? All right, next question. Hey guys, I've had a question for the group, for the podcast. What course would you guys like to see host a major that has not already hosted one? Thanks, bye.

Definitely Canadian guy. I was gonna say that's Canadian, right? Well, I wanted to take that, you know, not to just completely interpret his question, but like this unique situation where we could have fanless majors. What course could it go to that it couldn't normally go to? What's a course that sticks out that would be like, well, I want to see that major go there because we're not going to worry about fans, where could we go?

Rivea Ero was battered around as a US open because smaller confines and all that, they don't have the room for the logistics, I guess, for a current major. What about a course like total blind spot for me, but everybody talks about like a seminal. Like is it a long way to go? Let's dream. I agree. It's unrealistic.

I just don't think the membership would promote something like that, but let's dream. And that's kind of where I want to go. I'm pretty sure they're right. They are, it's true. Yeah, that's the tempo. Yeah, that's also the tempo.

Cypress is where I went. I mean, I don't know how great that would be for pros to play, but like they. I'd even say bandin. Just to like, I think a, from a viewing experience, having some coastline is awesome. It would look great on TV. And also the West Coast prime time would be great.

Yes. I think Pine Valley is the number one US Open one for like you just the logistics of that, you couldn't support fans in that. There's just no where to walk like it's treel, it's why but it's treelined. And to watch the pros play that like in September in firm ass conditions, that would be the best.

That would be the greatest. That while wonderful Water Golf from Shells is still like from like 1962 is still a appointment viewing so that'd be number one for me. Well fellas, it's your boy Trax from Philly. Trax? Yeah man this shit is crazy. He laughed down all the courses. People are getting fine from walking on courses left and right.

I got a buddy in mind and went down the Delaware because Delaware still had courses in play. He got $500, $500, should be in the state of Delaware. She is crazy, my man, but I got two rounds in the last week in Delaware. Are you guys superstitious at all? Like, will you keep in your pockets when you play? Like, I'm a left-handed golfer. And, you know, by left pocket, I'll keep my T's, my right pocket, I'll keep my ball marker and uh One dollar bill and then my back pocket I'll keep my scorecard You guys keep certain things in your pocket when you play around and marijuana Are you in or are you out when you play around come and jamin I have about one or two days around

I'd love to hear your responses Stay safe. Lefty track out. Morning, Damon. Thank you, tracks. God, that's invigorated. Thanks, tracks. We need that guy calling every week. That was fantastic.

Are you guys superstitious? I try to have my St. Rapio coin in my pocket. I never thought of it as superstitious, but I do always have the same stuff in the same pocket. It's more because of efficiency. Yeah, I just kind of, I can try to keep the keys in the left pocket and the ball marker in the right. Sam opposite, but yeah.

Your way makes more sense, but I, yeah. Yeah, because otherwise you're fumbling around between the T's for the ball marker, which is no fun. I'm not, not superstitious. Or the jewel in the left pocket and everything else in the right. I don't think it's superstitious, but I am particular. I have to take my glove off between every shot because I don't want to get more sweaty like moisture issues.

Of course. Yeah. I don't have any other issues. No more grocery apart over here. I don't want it getting more sweaty and wet than it needs to be. Well, the real question, Randy, are you a player? Yeah, we're gonna ignore his. I am not a player.

Can you explain the play? So that comes from my first, really, my first day working up in Northern Michigan and at golf course, I joined some, some folks for post work round and we get to the second tee. Guy pulls out like a huge, a huge bowl and just like turns me goes, are you a player? I've never felt so much peer pressure but I'm not, I can't, I've taken to not drinking on the golf course either. I just don't enjoy playing golf like in an altered state, I guess. We're playing real golf. Exactly.

We're trying to post a score, we're trying to hit cups. 18 cups, baby. I would say can go either way, but I can't smoke before I's tee off. It's usually like the fourth hole. I gotta get into a rhythm if I'm gonna touch up at all. And then it's hit or miss. Then is it gonna, you know, is it gonna completely tidal wave me and wreck things or in some cases it's like the microwave man comes out and you're like,

whoa, I'm feeling, I'm feeling, feeling good, you know. So it's kind of, I can go either way. I've never understood, sorry, this is derailing a little bit, but I used to meet people who claim they could play basketball like high. I don't understand how you function doing anything, let alone athletic activities. But I don't know. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't per take when I play typically unless it's like, you know, one of those sunset rounds where I'm not, I'm just out there trying to try to vibe.

I, you know, we have taken, taken some edibles before certain rounds at coastal places, band and Pacific. Pacific. Oh my God, dude. I was, that was, that was a spiritual experience at that. That was a spiritual experience at that. That was. But that was being an example of when it went the wrong way. I was two under through, we're in the middle of fourth fairway and solid, you went live on Instagram.

And I was right down the middle and it was just like, it was just absolutely queefe one in the ocean. Well, we had played Pacific Doons that morning and I had had a good round. I had a really good back nine, I shot like 71 or something. And you guys were like, oh, you gotta, like go for the course record. You could do it this afternoon,

like go take it deep. I was like, yeah, okay. It kind of pumped me up and I went to go do it. I birded the first hole, birded the third hole. And then I started fucking up and I started getting like kind of pissed about it just because I got to set the expectations. I didn't know you guys were zooted out of your mind. And like I just remember trying to like, dude, man, you just gotta pissed about it, just because I got to set the expectations. I didn't know you guys were zooted out of your mind.

And like, I just remember trying to be like, dude, man, you just gotta forget about it. I never said that anything like that. And the fog rolled in. Yeah. And the waves were, like, there were such just firing out there so the soundtrack was going. It was a kind of surreal.

Yeah, coming around 10, 11, 12 was like, whoa. This is cool. Yeah. So thank you, Tracks. Yeah, great question. Please keep calling. All right, next caller. Hey, this is Mary Lynn and Jason Wilhite from Arlington, Virginia. We've been waiting around for a year of our golf course open and it's being designed by Tom Dogg, which is pretty cool, but we're still waiting. It opens this week, which we're really excited about. That's not what I'm calling though. We have heard a lot about the C-suite. We've also heard about your marketing department. But Jason, I wanted to know if there's, who's running HR and have you had anyone who's been on a performance improvement plan of the last year. Thanks. Bye.

Mary-Lena, I can take that. This is Neil as head of HR. We have had a few reports. Randy, he's over slept a few meetings, which has been discussed internally. We had to write him up for it. But otherwise, I think everybody pulls their weight pretty well. I think I've created a hostile work environment a couple times. TC may have done, you know, he can be a little confrontational. So we've had him, we've brought in an outside of third party consultant to help with anger management. But I appreciate the question.

I think, you know, we're still growing. We're moving fast and I think some of the HR structures, you know, we need to get those in place. It's a group project. It's kind of what, it's a college group project, but it's also a real life business. We never officially defined everyone's roles. Everyone just kind of fell into roles

and kind of has a general assumptions what they should do. But that's kind of, yeah. It's not formalized as kind of, I don't know, a real point with that. Yeah, I think we make most decisions as a group with everybody having some latitude in their lane. It helps have you down here a lot.

Well, I got all five at once. Yeah. Everybody knows they can't act up when the head A char is in the office. So everyone's on their pees and cues when I'm in jacks. Randy stopped sexually harassing me since the deals come down. You're a c'mon, yeah.

You're a bad guy. That's all right. Next caller. Next caller. Hey, this is Michael from Indiana. Here's the thing. We know a pro golfer would beat any of us any given day of the week out on the course. My question is, which pro golfer would be the worst to lose to? Now talking about their personality, what they're like, I'm talking about just their game, watching them hit the ball around and kick your ass with just beat demoralizing.

Mine's a coocher. I can't watch that wipe-y fade, just kick my ass all day. How about you guys? I mean, Sully, you still need to set up that Martin trainer match. To be very clear, these are not my words. This is not... It's not ducking you? Not my belief that I think I could beat Martin trainer.

It was a statement made by someone else, but no, any pro golfers. What was that because he just gets hot, but then he's the microwave. It has a tendency to play horrible for long stretches. For most of the time, he's not very good and then can hit levels that people can only even dream of. I would say, it's probably a chess, right?

Like, what are respect for chess? But it's kind of chess, right? Like, what a respect for chess, but it's kind of like, how, you know, it's kind of like when DJs like, whooping my ass in a match, I'm like, God, I was just kind of, how's he beat me right now, you know? Because I get myself in a ton of trouble obviously, but I think mine would be Zach Johnson. See, I would have said similar answers,

the little bit of tournament golf I played this year, I have more and more respect from the dudes that do it without overpowering courses. It's almost like, actually, that's really true. So I think Lanto would be mine. That's a long time. I'm more along the line, the guys that I've played with that truly slap it around.

So like ZJ and Chez, I would say are guys that, I mean, obviously they play on tour. Like they know where it's going. They hit it straight and it's not far, but like the way those guys play is like, oh my God, you don't have to be gripping the club 10, 10 tension and swinging out of your shoes all day. It's like make the ball go there and then make it go there. And if you have seven iron to the green, that's not the end of the world.

That is what has taught me the most about golf and the last couple years. Now there are dudes I've played with that don't hit it far and slap it around and just like find ways to make pars. And you know, you feel like you flush it for a while and make a couple of mistakes. You look up the end of the day, you shot 72 and the other guy shot 71, it's like so demoralizing. I had up and down from anywhere, pro or not,

or it's, oh man, it's tough. Freddie Yock. Yeah, so I don't know who the answer to that is, other than that style of slapping it around and yet still making a ton of bars and never making a huge mistake drives me. I think every time we play with humor, it's like, God, dude, like, you're cheating.

You're hitting it so far. And, you know, but I did gain a lot of respect for Huber when we played it on her. Number two with them. That was one of the more disciplined, interesting rounds. I think I've ever witnessed. He didn't know where the bodies were buried yet. That's true. I always remember you saying, Stu Sink,

you would get pissed at Stu Sink for just babying the ball around the golf course. Yeah, he could be such a dominant player. And he just just you know Kind of hit that little baby fade. Yeah, I don't know. It's just See like I think you could watch follow Kooch around for a while watch him hit it and realize he's a flusher like he like it hits the ball Really really freaking good. It doesn't look pretty the swing doesn't look pretty But ugly looking swings don't bother me as much as just like Duck cookie ball flights and just slappy. I was just saying Zach Johnson just cuz he's such a cheesedick doesn't look pretty, but ugly looking swings don't bother me as much as just like duck

cookie ball flights and just slappy. I was just saying Zach Johnson just because he's such a cheesed dick. Yeah, that could be. I think personality wise, we could go a lot of different ways. Next topic. All right. All of a blow from the review here. Long time wasn't our first time caller.

You know, I've been sitting here for a couple of weeks. I haven't gotten any practice in, haven't barely been getting swings in. What are the pros doing during this time? And how do you guys feel with the first, what do you guys feel the first start's gonna look like? Thanks, I'll hang up on this. Seems like a lot of them are shut it down a little bit,

at least, just saying, hey, like, it's not worth grinding right now when I know. Because you're gonna have plenty of runtime to get it. If you know this tour is not starting now before June, that's two months away. Like, if you want to ramp it up. Four weeks, right? Yeah, you have all the time in the world.

I think guys are gonna hit the ground. If anything, hit the ground more focused because of how shortened everything's gonna be. And like, they've had their off-season. They've craved this off-season. I think there's gonna be a lot of golfers that come back and be like, yeah, you know that off-season thing. I'm kind of good. We don't need that. I wonder if it works for them. Like when I don't play golf for three months, I usually the first one or two rounds, I go out and I'm like, I play awesome because I'm not thinking. I don't have nine swing thoughts in my head. And I wonder if it

works the same for pro. That's a good question. I would be interesting one to ask them Yeah, like when they come out and just like basically let the body take over All right, this is Ben from Baltimore. Good question What do you think has more future career wins? Jordan's beef or Victor Havelin. Thanks. Be safe I'm gonna go speed speed Yeah, speed. I think this break might help speak more than anybody. It's gonna say I'm gonna go speed, speed. Yeah, speed. I think this break might help speed more than anybody.

It's gonna say, I still believe in speed too. I do too. I think he's gonna make a triumph and come back. The question made me think. It's only 26. Yeah, and it's been three, it'll be three years this July since this last one. I think the answer's still speed,

but I think Hoffman's gonna win a lot. Maybe the real question is, who has more career wins, or who has more wins in the future? Greller or Hoffland? Maybe the most important question. What happens with the 2020 Fred X Cup? It's gonna be a mega-fett X Cup,

or Fred X Cup, 2020-2021. Okay. All right, if you wanna just delay the inevitable, that's fine. Next! next if anything it gives us a short chance Good job fellas Read here in the great white north 20 or Canadian listeners We always talk about how caddies are great players in their own right

I'm just wondering if you guys have ever heard stories of caddies that just are absolute horrendous golfers Or they don't even play the game at all they could be interesting if they're a guy that just are absolute horrendous golfers or they don't even play the game at all. They could be interesting if they're a guy that just hated golf but just truck someone's bag around the course. Other than that, this could be a hot take. Some could stand flying close to the sun with this tape but Icarito is an LU's greatest asset. So, Neo for a plug like that, I'll expect a merge package in the mail. Thanks. Well, listen, we're not doing that.

Quid Pro, cool. I got it, man. I didn't hear the back end of that when I put that. I would not have played that if I had heard that. Thank you, mate. I appreciate it. Well, listen, you know, get at me at the DMs. Maybe we can get you a discount code.

Do we know of anybody that's a really, really shitty player in their own right? I mean, no offense to like Maddie, but he's like a 20 handicap, right? Maddie, if you haven't played with him, he can hit shots like Maddie's a former scratch. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. I don't think he was a bad golfer, but Jimmy Hard case, Cadi, was it engineer at Boeing?

And just decided he's just like retired like, yeah, I don't want to do this anymore and just became a Cadi and just drives around in the van from, from, torsstop to torsstop. I thought that was pretty cool. I don't know if he's, he's bad though. I don't think he was a bad golfer. I think the answer to the question,

there's a lot of shitty players on, like not all caddies are good players. That's kind of why I think they make it a point to pick. He's actually a great player in his own right. But there's, there's plenty of guys out there that What's Kessler good? No, he was terrible But he you could tell he was a good athlete

He wasn't terrible. He was not good. He was not like a competitive golfer You know like he had just started like you just started getting into it the last year or two like really really playing because you could tell He was a relatively new new gol golfers for his actually playing. TA3's Cady Brak is not a golfer. Just, yeah, just like, carries, just pro-jock, just carries a bag, lives in Alabama. He's a bag ape. Yeah, he's just like, yeah, man, I'm just, you know,

this is, carries a bag in, taps down, spike marks. Yeah, for sure. He's a good kid. My question is for Mr. Genespie,y. What are you doing to be proactive to make sure that you can maybe gain a couple strokes during this quarantine on your handicap? I'll take my answer offline. Go ahead. I appreciate it's not here, but I think we can cover this. I appreciate somebody bringing that up. Yeah, I think we can cover this forum, you know, I but I think we can cover this. I appreciate somebody bringing that up. Yeah, I think we can cover this for him, you know.

I think he's doing exactly what he should be doing, not playing golf and everyone's playing golf, hitting the raised cups is lowering their handicap. Those handicaps are so. Those count for handicap purposes. USGA. The raised cups suck. Like I refuse to play. I don't know.

I'm glad you're doing that. I enjoyed my route. I played last week and I enjoyed the round thoroughly, even with the race cups. I thought it was like classic, hey, if we're making too many birdies, if we're having too much fun. I'm making less birdies.

I can't make any punts with the race cups. Cause I don't like to hit it hard. I like to die. Maybe that's a good lesson for you. Maybe you need to start, you know, more pace. What if the opposite of that is instead of having too much fun, what if you just don't have enough fun? That's where I'm at, yeah.

Anyway, back to DJ. Yeah, back to ZZ being a sandbagger. You know, it's not even, it's not even round to round. It's like within the round where DJ has 10 or 11 or 12 really, really solid holes. And then he goes out, you know, he gets a 14, he gets a 15 and all of a sudden he just can't get off the tee. And, you know, he makes, he makes it two or three doubles in a row and all of a sudden a 76 turns into an 83. If you could play from where you play,

like how straight you are off the tee, like he doesn't hit it far and he doesn't hit it straight. Not to say I'm roasting because he's not here. But like, he's a good iron player, he's good chipper, he's good putter, he just doesn't get off the tee. Oh, it takes so many pups. It's more so than he eats.

Sometimes mid-round when he has it gone, he'll just like start like tinker him with his swing. That's the thing, he can't get out of his own way, like just committing to a shot. Oh, you know, I'm gonna carve this around. Like what? Just hit him. Sometimes when he's thinking that way, that's when he's playing his know, I'm gonna carve this around. Like what? Just hit. Sometimes when he's thinking that way,

that's when he's playing his best, when he's executing that stuff. But then it's like, he doesn't, it's almost like he doesn't stick to that same game plan. Yeah. He tries to either... He claims he gets bored and needs to like carve a wedge from 110 instead of just hitting a straightforward gap wedge,

which is, yeah, whenever we're like paired up, I just like, wait, what are you gonna try to do here? Why? No, you know what I get really bored when I play like shit. Yeah. We give him shit for sandbagging, but like, the point I always make about our handicaps

is none of us would let each other get away with either a vanity or a sandbagging handicap. Like we all play and gamble and bet with each other all the time. Like no one would, no one comes out of consistent winner in any of it I wouldn't say. And I have no issues with anyone's handicap either way. Like it, shit fluctuates.

And like the way shit gets edited, it, we can either be a vanity or a sandbagger on a certain day. It's amazing how everyone in real life will like talk to each other about how hard golf is and then like on YouTube it's, oh, he hit that shot, he can't, there's no fucking way. He's like, tron's a 2.1, are you kidding me? That guy's a 7 at best. He's like, well, I've

played a lot of golf at Tron, I feel pretty confident in his handicap, but it's like, God, people just like lose their minds and capable of understanding up and downs of golf. I go on binges too, where I'll take a trip and shoot six rounds, like right in a row, 75, 76, 74 stack those up. Those are in your handicap for four or five months. Right now, I know I've got some really good scores about to get wiped off. My handicap's probably gonna go up to 4.5, five range, which is just short.

And it's hard to lower your handicap at Jack's Beach, because it's rated like 69.5, 5 range. And it's hard to lower your handicap at Jack's Beach because it's rated like 69.5. But I will say everyone's handicap has trimmed significantly since we started doing this except DJ's. That's true. It comes from just playing all of the shit like what were you at Randy and what are you at now? Oh God, I was up.

I got up to 13.1 at one point last early in 2019. And now you're just seven, seven point eight. What's been the biggest difference? Just confidence like putting in. That's a little bit more consistency just. You're driving so much better. Ever since the Gankus visit, it really is. It's like you're just playing from the fairway at ton.

Yeah. And you, Neon, what were you and what are you now? I was in eight and now I'm at 3.7. That's pretty. Yeah. And you, Neon, what were you and what are you now? I was an eight and now I'm a 3.7. That's pretty. Yeah. Which sometimes when you zoom out, it's like, I don't feel like I'm that much better. But you're like, I guess, yeah, I'm playing better golf. If you, I still make Mondo mistakes. Mondo. Like you, you caught, like you should be a scratch. Seriously, like you cost, you're as far as you hit it, you probably still like negative strokes gain off the tee because the penalties. But listen, that's my golf journey.

And I choose to take the road to Hana instead of the expressway. So what's a realistic goal for you for this year? Like to get by the end of the year. I don't know, it's, well, I wanna break par. Like that's just, you know, top of the list, right? Like I really, really, really want to do that. And I think I, I think I will.

So I can't be raised cup. First round break for a kid. No, of course not. But I think also if I did do it with raise cups, it obviously would be an asterisk, but I think it would help me break through mentally. Yeah. Like I find that golf was like when I was younger

and you broke through 80, it was like, okay, cool, I can do it, you know? So I think getting, getting past that, that mental barrier is important. Cool. All right, I think that about past that that mental barriers important All right, I think that about wraps it good catching up on the news and everything going on in golf Thank you everyone that sent in a call big Randy. Sorry. I had one thing. I hobblins not gonna win again Because he's got the curse of the Puerto Rico That's right. I apologize for overlooking that moment. No, that's good point. God you got that in

Thank you gentlemen for joining this morning. Thanks again to everyone that sent in questions and we'll be back with some good interviews lined up for next week. Cheers. Two. It's getting right close. Be the right club today. Yes.

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