No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 314: The Match II Recap (ft. Justin Thomas)

Episode Date: May 25, 2020

How good was that!? We recap a wild and fun Sunday by chatting through our favorite parts, the format, Brady's shaky play, Tiger's stripe show, cart cams, and a ton more. We also talk to producer Jeff Neubarth (19:30) who takes us inside the booth, and on course commentator Justin Thomas makes a great appearance as well (53:00). We discuss what made this successful, Phil's commentary, the wild moments, and a ton more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah. That's better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most. I'm very excited. Tronis here, he is filming this one. He's excited. Tell us about how excited you are, Mr. TC. Oh, you put me on a spot. I'm so excited. We're going to, like, I feel like this is the victory lap.

Yeah, we're excited to talk. Big Randy's going to be the contrarian, right? Oh, God, I got some tape. And Callaway is excited. And Proud to have been part of Capital One's The Match and the incredible amount of money contributed to charity. They mentioned it. I was mentioned during the broadcast. If you go to calwaygolf.com slash the match, you can bid on custom wedges, raising funds

for the feeding America organization. And also, if you missed it, their Maverick commercial broke the news that Calaway, Dick Sporting Goods, and Golf Galaxy teaming up to donate 10% of the revenue from the all-new Maverick sales at those stores to the CDC foundation. And again, speaking of the Callaway Maverick, we saw Philly got a little, little wayward at times, but it hits some timely big drives, some great chips with his PM grind wedges. And if you're interested for a chance to win a Callaway staff bag signed by Phil, go

to CallawayGolf.com slash the match. And that bag also comes with a custom fit set of Cowaby Clubs. So go to cowwagolf.com, slash the match. If you can't tell the spirit of that, of that read is just very charitable and very giving, and we are feeling very charitable and very giving tonight. Welcome to the No-Lang-Up Podcast. Podcasters for prosperity.

This evening. Well, I feel like Tiger hit more Holesha seeds. For sure. Tiger was nothing but Holesha's, right? Which is, we might not cover that within the first hour based on what we just saw. So we're all pumped up. I think we are all texting each other.

Yeah, I think the excitement kind of shine through on social media. I want to turn it over to Big Randy first, though. What was your reaction? What did you like? Where are you staying right now? It was fantastic. No hyperbole. I think, are you asking for my favorite thing?

Sure. Favorite thing. I think the joy and enthusiasm in which Phil Mickelson went about explaining his golf shots and coaching Tom Brady. That's exactly right. I tweeted something that was like, man, this is, this is all I've ever wanted from golf. It's just Phil describing every shot

and someone responded, it was like, that's all Phil all I've ever wanted from golf. It's just full describing every shot and someone responded, it was like, that's all fills ever wanted from golf too. So I was good to help people helping people. Embracing the process. Exactly. I couldn't help. It was a celebration of the process, the whole day today.

I couldn't help get the image, the Pete Weber, the bowling guy, the clip where he's like, who you think you are, I am? That's going through Tiger's head as fill as way over explaining everything he's about to do. Tiger's like, yeah, all That's going through Tiger's head as Phil is way over explaining everything he's about to do. Tiger's like, yeah, all that's going on in my head. I just don't have to tell everyone about it. There's gonna be a lot of moments.

I feel like they flood back to all of us and we're just gonna probably interject each other sentences a lot today. But let me get out my favorite quote of the day, which was, this one's for you work day. I need to close it off the fucking planet. I got it. After Audi had spent however much money Sponsoring that one and they didn't get a single mention it was just all work day work day work day

Ambush marketing Neil made the call he made the call exactly highly illegal I got emotional watching that you know just hearing that tribute was just you know I just got emotional You hit the wrong one that's supposed to be hitting bombs. Where's hitting bombs? No, I just got emotional. Oh, no, you hit the wrong one. That's supposed to be hitting bombs. Where's hitting bombs? No, I lost the, we lost the best. It might be the bottom border.

We lost the soundboard. Hitting bomb. There we go. There we go. T.C., what are you munching on here? Shoshito peppers. I'm gonna try one of these. You a fan?

I don't know, I never had one. Oh god. One of every ten is hot. This is gonna be a complete breakdown. And I've already got one to chew it in the mic that's kinda ASMR. All right, so let's just start right off the bat. Shut up, man.

They're really good. You should try one, ready? T.C., what was your favorite thing? T.B. 12, just shitting himself all over the front line. And after, like I said on the preview podcast, like the guy is not that good. Like Peyton, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just, he's just some golfer. You know, I guess he got a shaft from Tiger, potentially a system shaft. Like he, he just, like

Peyton, when you saw him, even he's, he's got four vertebrae fused together. You can still tell, like his hips go through, he's got great hands and all that like I didn't see any of that from TB 12 I know you hold the shot and I know he stuffed it on the part three other like he stinks It was not good. I want to push back. He kind of found it a little bit. Yeah the last four four or five holes He really summoned something I thought I mean sure he was Phil lining up his putts absolutely Phil was like it was so pro-am mode from Phil, it felt like, Well, if you wanna talk about lining up putts,

that was bad. That was bad, too. Well, we'll get to that, right? But what, okay, so Tiger definitely lined up Peyton's putt on the part three, and he made it. But is it illegal for your playing partner to line you up? Does that think it's a catty rule?

I think it's illegal for anybody, right? I think it's a catty rule. I think it is a catty rule. Shit, I didn't even think of that. I mean, it's intent based. Yeah. Right, so if you intended for somebody to line you up, you're against the rule.

Can you imagine if slugger would have inserted himself into that scenario? What did slugger do today? There was so many times that he was needed, and I saw him like twice the first three holes. We went back to the clubhouses to wep. That straw hat does not hold up in the rain. How does Tom Brady not know how Redstake works?

That's a tough look for a supposed 8.1 handicap. Sorry I was in the film room winning Super Bowl. It's a tough look for medalist. You know, potential players club. Yeah, it's true. Seminole. Sorry, seminal. Yeah, very tough look for seminal.

I didn't think, sorry, I didn't think Tom's move was all that bad. Once he kind of got used. You had to admit it was Nebyshe as I pointed it out. It was very, very tough look for Seminole. I didn't think, sorry, I didn't think Tom's move was all that bad. Once he kind of gets. You had to admit it was Nebyshez, I pointed it out. It was very Nebyshez. He's a six foot five, like freaking unit, and he's hitting it 180 off to eat, are you fucking kidding me?

Tom, we do need to shout out. He, first of all, among one of the many things that we'll say we'll get to, and probably not get to, he didn't hit one driver all day, which was sorry. We tried to learn, he didn't hit one driver all day, which was, sorry. We tried to learn, he didn't have a driver in the bag. I eventually learned that. That was a film probably.

You put it all back. Phil said, let me put that in my bag. I'll have to just in case. If you don't have a driver in the bag, like you don't have a driver in the bag. You don't have a driver in the bag. Yeah, you literally don't have a driver. If you have zero drivers, you have no driver.

Phil has probably put the Frankenwood in his bag. There was that, but TB12 did win the long drive contest between the two quarterbacks at 221 yards with a three wood, three metal. But I felt like Peyton would have won it going away because he's got that, that, that roasty draw, but he was getting no, you know, no roll out of it. One thing that Tiger put on display that the two amps

did not, those fairways are wide. Yeah, those are, that was, they roll out of it. One thing that Tiger put on display that the two Amps did not, those fairways are wide. Yeah, that was a, that was a, they lost so many balls. And again, all right, disclaimer, like it dumping rain and you're an amateur golf or playing on television next to Tiger Woods and filmmakers, it's gonna be pretty tough. And as much as like it's fun to pile on Brady,

sometimes that's what eight handicaps will look like playing golf. Imagine, I, I, I, I really, you can have a tour of the whole day. He's a 12. Yeah, that's not truly. You can't be a current eight handy cap and play like that. Well, but you could always be the eight handy cap that, you know, has not, you know, not logged a ton of rounds in recent time, but that handy cap doesn't go up

because of it. I'm looking at you. Florida also a little different to. Yeah. So like he's, he's playing up in Massachusetts. Now he's playing down in Florida. Not a whole lot of places to miss the fairways and all that or even rough up in up at the country club.

Probably got some friendly caddies kicking it out of this. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. The thing that gave it away. I just didn't think he had a good enough feel for the game to be an eight handicap. He was a good partner. He was a good partner.

I will say all the rumors about it. He was a fine putter. I will say all the rumors about the game. He was a fine putter. Just because he did the CC way, that's mean he was a good putter. He was a fine putter. He blew that one 15 feet past the hole. They feel like they putter off the green one. Well, he wasn't good either.

There's never been a more out of body or more out of in line experience that I've ever watched on TV than watching his first however many holes and then seeing him hole a shot for the middle of the day. It was really, so many tweets, and as did my edible just hit. As that was,

I turned to DJ, I was like, wait, they're fucking, I'm just like, that was, that was not really all right. Did you guys wonder how he'd get in the middle of the fairway though? Yeah. Because that was the first thing going through my mind was like, wait a second, how did he get there? Exactly. It was his fourth shot, which is second, how did he get there? Exactly.

It was his fourth shot. But I think he dropped in the middle of the fairway on a couple of holds, and I think that was one of them. Well, he did not want to pick up. He was gonna hit, he plays like Randy does. He hits 18 cups. I think he was taking some mercy drops, so. It could be like the breaking bad theory that Walter White

actually died in that car in New Hampshire, and all the rest was a dream. That could have been the situation. He died in those woods and like the rest was just in his mind. What he thought was going to happen. His second shot was terrible. We never saw her at landed. We never saw his third shot and then for his fourth, he magically was in the middle of fairway. And fairness, they might have dropped him from coverage. For sure. Yeah. It was going to be that. What do we think of the format, DJ? I loved it. I mean I

Hopefully, you know was very vindicated in expressing my excitement for the all-shot I think that was clear to see how fun that was gonna be because I'd like to take my take back from the preview that I was kind of confused By it and that was fantastic. Yeah, it would have been miserable if it was just like that's very Imagine if they know that's very honorable. They truly had to play from like all of Brady's, you know, shitty tee shots and patents, shitty tee shots, like that wouldn't have been fun. So they were, yeah, they were in every hole, but you still had plenty of drama and plenty of the am's picking the guys up and letting the guys down and all stuff. So I thought the format was great. I was a little suspect.

I think the charity fundraiser aspect of this definitely promotes making it longer. And I think that's good. Like, you know, more time you're on the air, the more money you can raise, the more ads you can sell, all that stuff is great. But I think if you're, you know, for five years down the line, and this becomes more of like a factory,

kind of like let's turn these things out, I think it could probably be nine holes. 18 holes felt pretty long. But I think 18 holes in modified alternate shot would have felt float a little better. Yes, or that. Yeah, yeah. So the best ball on the front didn't do a ton for me. It's really shots to the anterity. Like, yeah, I think Andy Johnson or someone tweeted that would, would

Brady had lost like his fifth ball on that side. It was like just a reminder that Tom Brady's getting three shots off the Tiger Woods on this set. Give both of them a full shot on every hole. Every hole. Because not every tee box was different. There's only Tiger T's on eight of the holes. I think they played same T's on several of the holes. That was what shocked me when they're teeing off.

And it's like Tiger and filler teeing off. And it's 510 yard par four. And then they scooted up and Brady amanding or teeing off and still 460. I know. And Peyton made a, like just one of the most comfy fours I think of it received.

On the second hole, right? Yeah. Where it was like just pissing rain and he had, he must have had, I mean, it's hard, of course, there was a million things going on in a very small crew, but he did 210 years. He didn't know how far they had

into a lot of the greens, but like they said Tiger had well over, it was like 203 or something or 2010 and Peyton hit before him. And he just kinda knocks this like three iron, four iron, whatever, like up to 15 feet with water left, like that was very, very impressive. But how the elements played out on the back nine

with the ultimate shot. The conditions were tough. The conditions were tough. Not even the conditions. I'm saying like the element of the game, where it felt like every hole on the alt shot, they were opposite each other. Like, it was so cool.

It was, so, you know, if so and so runs a putt by, but Payton's got to put the next one, it's kind of like, whoa, like I want to see that. Exactly. It's probably the putt that Payton had to hit. There were some gimmies, I think it was kind of like, all right, let's string this thing out as far as possible. But I did want to see some of those guys grinding a little bit.

Which they did, they made Payton put that three footer on four kind of team. I think. Yeah. Yeah. Tom Tom got crowned a timer too on the back nine. Definitely. There was a lot of five footers that were good. But there was one. Like to your point, so I forget which hole it was. It was early in the all shot. But what both players missed a green. It was Peyton and Phil hitting the approach shots and they both missed a green. And all of a sudden it was like, all right, well, who do you think has a better chance to get up and down Tiger Woods or Tom Brady?

And like Brady lags it up there to tap in. He's a boss. Yeah, yeah. And like that kind of stuff is, you know, when you've got Phil, you know, they're both one 58 or whatever and it's Phil against Peyton Manning. It was great.

I love it. The time that Brady had that put to win, I forget which hole it was, but he had like a 12, 10 footer to win the hole. And I was like, you know what, I've seen Tiger and Phil hit these putts a million times. I have never seen somebody like Tom Brady hit this putt. And I cannot wait to see what actually happens here.

And he missed it, but it was like a really good effort. They were so loose the whole day and so relaxed. And that was the one time Brady looked like he was on a football field. He was fuming after he missed that putt, which was kind of fun to see. Just adds so much context. Yeah.

And did I get to everyone's favorite thing or did I get too excited? I think so. I would probably say, I mean, just the telecast, honestly, like obviously I- DJ making positive. Yeah, and I will- There will be plenty of cover sticks today.

Let me clarify a little bit of what I said after the Taylor made one, because what I was kind of trying to get at was, man, when you have all these people watching, it would be cool to make it look different. And today looked so freaking different than what we see every week, and like, find me somebody who is a casual fan, who's a hardcore fan, who's, you know, whatever, that didn't think that that was a step in the right direction.

It was fantastic, and all the hats off to the people who pulled it off unlike what I would have to guess is the worst possible circumstances. Small crew, people who don't know anything about golf, like pouring rain, pouring rain, all that stuff. It's just like, man, just simplify it and like distill it down into the best part and show why golf is fun And I think you tweeted something or texted or whatever that was like man

I so rarely do I watch golf and am I reminded of like man You know what this is really super fun sport. I love golf. This is why I love it Yeah, and today that was like for five straight hours. That was the feeling and I'll say this about the both the people that Organized the event and the people that organized the event and the people that were in charge of covering it is how not self-congratulatory they were about the safety protocols they had to follow. When you talk off the record with these guys,

like every single comment was almost about, this is like a safety exercise. This is not about the match. It's like you wouldn't understand how the hoops we got to jump through to make this coincide with CDC protocols, all the testing and quarantine they had to do. I mean, you saw, like, that wasn't like a joke, like the broadcasters were indifferent, you know,

with glass between them. It's like if you're raising efforts for charity in relation to this thing, like you have to make sure you are very much in line with that. And that, they didn't even, you know, even talking to Jeff about it on the preview podcast, he didn't really want to go into it because he's like, he just wanted it to be entertaining for people and Gosh, they they they shine through on that. Let's get to some of the T.C

You want to let's get to your favorite thing here in one second. No, I think I already said my favorite thing Okay, but yeah, I was just gonna go go back on that I was like, you know, wasn't like, hey, like we're clearly doing this or that or that it was a self Self-explanatory. Yes, it's like here we are We're gonna and it didn't impede literally anything, the whole telecast. You never thought twice about like, oh, well, they couldn't do this

because they were hamstrung. Like, it just, they made it work. It was awesome. Before we do get going here too much, if people might be starting to schedule some trips, some golf trips, putting some things back on the calendar after having a lot of things trip from the calendar, I know we're starting to do that as well.

One of our favorite places to go for golf is Pinehurst. That was pretty well documented. I would have to say during seasons five, I lost it. Season five, Torres Saus presented by our friends at Original Penguin, which featured our visit to Pinehurst. TC, when do you think of Pinehurst? What are your favorite things here about Pinehurst?

I think about the ninth hole on number two. Part three. Yeah, I just, really. Oh yeah. part of three. Yeah, that just really. Oh yeah. Like it just- Why is that your reaction, Deach? Well, that's like the 12th hole I would have thought of. That's what I thought.

That speaks to the great designer. I played it probably times now. I don't think I've ever hit the green before. In the midst of some really good rounds, after being one or two over going into that hole and just, I just shit myself and I get to that hole. So I think of the night the hole at number two. DJ, what's the first thing you think of?

I'll go with the cradle. I think that we've had some exceptional times at the cradle the last few years, every time we go there, I think it's a perfect way to start around a golf or end around a golf, whatever your fancy is, whatever your schedule is, and hopefully it's a place that's emulated by more around the country.

Big Randy? What don't I think of? No, I think the hotel, honestly. The breakfast. The breakfast. The breakfast is so good. Buffet, the rocking chairs, just the whole laid back.

You're in a small town, great golf. I think that whole feeling is what I get to mentally. Well, they are available. They're ready and waiting for you to come visit. So check out Pioneers if you're scheduling any trips. There's a lot of great golf in the area. There's so much to enjoy at the resort with the cradle and the this will do and they've done a lot to promote

just all around great vibe, which again, if you're curious for more, go check out our YouTube channel. There's plenty of that there. And I know we're gonna be back there later this year, but we'll announce that later on, I think. So back to the Capitol Ones of the Match, which really, if I'm nitpicking, it's the name

that's good, then I'm gonna nitpick. It stinks. Just call it Capitol Ones of the Match or something. But that's it. Let's get past that part. To say, if you have the match, like there can't be plural the match. I do think that this asserted itself as the match. Yes.

This was much more the match than the last one. I think the Vegas one was a match. I think this one so far was the match. So maybe it's like a running match. Well, it might be like a running thing. One of the matches. Like if the next one stinks, then this one will still remain the match. You know what I mean?

I just have one question in relation to you. You're making fun of the Champions for charity, right? I believe. Yes, that was my point. I just have one question about the telecast. Was that any good? It was fantastic, man. I thought they set the tone early.

The packages they did, like first of all, they got dealt in a 45 minute, 45 minute rain delay, which I thought they handled like, I'm sure there was antsy people who were kind of like, all right, why am I, you know, start this thing up, what's going on? But yeah, there was a 45 minute, and I thought they handled it seamlessly. They had packages ready to go. They had, you know, they did a good job with like the betting stuff.

They did a good stuff. Good job bringing JT in and, I don't know, there's gonna be a bunch of telecast stuff that we roll in as kind of great examples of what they did, but I thought even just navigating that early was super impressive. Again, shout out to Jeff Newbarth, who was on the pod earlier this week,

kind of outlining what the things they learned from the match one and what they were gonna do differently and implementing them and having the benefit of, I mean, something like this is just not possible the weekend before at the driving relief thing. So I don't wanna do apples, it's not apples to apples. Like you are an NBC product, it's gonna look like an NBC product.

And this is totally different. And outside the box. That's kinda the point though, right? Right, yes, this is gonna be outside the box. I'm gonna be different. Like the ecosystem is the ecosystem in order to get somebody to disrupt the ecosystem. They have to be totally out.

It's out of it. Well, somebody on Twitter made the call that we need to have Jeff come back for his victory lap on the pod. So if he's available let's call him right now and let's see and hope he's right now. Yeah, let's do it. We'll do it live. We're gonna do it live. I hope he answers. Hello.

New Barth. What's going on? Congratulations man, you're live on the podcast right now. Well that's nice of you guys to have me. We are doing what you do in the social distance world. We're picking up some take-out food along with Steve Bime, the director, and Jonathan Evans who you saw passionately waving at the golfers to stop and start when we were holding them

up in those commercials. How are you guys doing tonight? We are great. We are here toasting to a very, very enjoyable afternoon of television. Just question off the bat. Did it go as planned for you guys? No, it didn't go as planned. TV of live sports, right? Isn't that why? Isn't that why we watch these things? But when according to the plan, what fun would that be? But look, hats off to Steve, who directed a hell of a show.

I mean, you know, that rain was epic monsoon-style rain. And, you know, our camera operators were out there, you know, fussed on their asses, not missing shots. You know, we didn't miss a shot all day. And that's a testament to the great crew that Steve has and not prepared. He has the entire team for anything, you know, the announcers. I mean, God couldn't have been more proud of how they really listened. There was some pretty tough technical situations in terms of weather and stuff to do what they

had to do to make it work. Because look, having players with mics in wet conditions, with receivers buried in golf carts that are getting soaked by rain, it's not that easy. And then they coordinated to when we add I-A-Fees to the mix, yet a whole other thing there. It was not easy, and I'm just so proud of the crew who's excellent work showed up. Made my job easy. Jeff, it's Tron. Any huge concerns there on the, I think it was the second hole when B.A. goes to Kat

and Kat has no idea that he's talking to him and it's just dead silence in the car. Well, literally like the first thing we did. Yeah. That was a really fun way to start this show. I probably would like, you know, you know what, I definitely have to say, that question coming as your first question is like asking a guy who finished a really good round about the free day to have

out of the first place. Thank you. No, it's all downhill from here. You know, look, let me just say this, when you finish these shows, the adrenaline that runs through you still goes for hours and hours and we're sitting outside of a restaurant right now waiting for some food to be cooked because you know, obviously not a lot's open. We can't go out to take back to the hotel, but look, what was funny on that is that actually wasn't a technical issue. Tiger said, falling down to love, you know, he just couldn't hear it.

I just couldn't hear it. I just couldn't hear it. Hey, John, this isn't here, but we've got a fix. This is a softball DJ coming into follow that one up. What was your favorite moment of the day? What brought you the big smile? What was my favorite moment of the day? I mean, it has to be Tom Brady getting a challenge from Brooks Capdow, right? And this is what made this different.

Not only you've seen that before, right? Where someone on Twitter goes, oh, I bet they can't do this. I'll do something if they do it. Okay, well, that's level one. Then level two is being able to put it on the screen during a live show. Level three is being able to put it on the screen and tell the person, Tom Brady, that, hey, this is what Broke Kepska's challenge do.

Level four is seeing him shove it up, Broke Keps his face, and Chuck's face, who was talking trash. Chuck was offering to take on Tom at a match that point and then goes to level five when J.T. helped us get Brooks to call into the show. So I mean, talk about, you know, look, one of the guys I've learned a lot from, you know, early on producing TV, always talked about connecting the dots. That was connecting the dots, right?

We took a story and a moment and made it bigger than it was. Jeff, trying to get not to, to, oh God, here we go. Yeah, John, you want to talk about the, the, I mean, it's Bellinger's song? No, no, honestly, I love the whole thing and I wanted to be like, so positive, I mean, come in hot on you. Okay, that's what you do.

That's why people love you. How did you guys handle the randal? I thought it was, honestly, like, it was 45 minutes. We didn't have a randal, we didn't have a randal. We were always gonna tee off theole? I thought it was honestly like, it was 45 minutes. We didn't have a randole. We didn't have a randole. We were always gonna tee off the 330. We pushed it back 10 minutes just because it squalled a little bit before. So I let the guys spend 10 more minutes

in a locker room and let them warm up. It wasn't a randole. Pro move. Well, question for you. Did you, do you have any sense while something's going on, whether or not it's going, it went really, really well, and you know Golf Twitter is very pessimistic as it is and but it was

like overwhelmingly positive on golf Twitter. Can you feel that in any way while you're producing it? Obviously it's it's 925 you know Eastern when we're recording this I still don't know if it went well on golf Twitter. I haven't looked I don't look at that stuff during the show. I will say this and this is not to give you any credit solidly if like that you don't get any other, but I have an Apple Watch on, and at one point it flies, and I looked, and it was a very nice message you sent me, and I kind of made me feel good. It was like, oh, that was cool. But, you know, I could have reached out.

I could have reached out. I could have reached out. I could have reached out. I could have reached out. I could have reached out. I could have reached out. I could have reached out. I could have reached out.

I could have reached out. I could have reached out. I could have reached out. I could have the way. You guys can tell me later how it did or whatever. You know, when you're in there doing the show, you're just doing the show. And like I said, Steve and I have a great relationship working together, full trust in him and his abilities to just cover the golf. And then let me just work with the announcers. At a question.

So my favorite thing I think that was part of it was obviously the mic that players. And it's something that we would love to see every week. I'm curious, you know, you've done a couple of these now, was it this time around harder, easier, more realistic, less realistic? What did you take away? You know, I mean, again, like I wish you guys could have seen the day we had yesterday, like this crystal clear sun, beautiful and everything just worked flawlessly because, you know, when the mics don't get wet, work great that was just the biggest challenge with the

water you know our already team you know led by Jamie hats off to them because you know the mics just kept going how you know they kept saying am I your don't go to this guy's mic you can't hear or you can't talk and they were just hustle you know busted to get out there and get a sex and get spares out there and get things going. Jeff I would argue that the rain made it even more in throwing and more enjoyable. Yeah, yeah. The guy who created the math, Brian Serbs,

that was his thought after he said, look, they weren't, it wasn't a perfectly sunny day where everyone's like, look at these guys, playing a perfect golf course all by themselves while I'm stuck at home doing this. They were out there like grinding in a horrendous weather when most people would have stopped. I mean, you heard Tom at one point go, they canceled football games when it's raining in the park. Yeah, we're still playing golf

So that was really cool. I'm up You know as I told you guys earlier in the week the goal was to not talk over it all The goal was not to talk over the announcers and we had a little trouble with that at the top because they almost weren't talking enough And we wanted to get in but then we had that moment where JT just kind of like when the t-become one of the best now is a long call uh... he just he came in there and got these shipping lists going to be just with kept selling the mire is like i'm going to talk to tiger paton c allen ameter pro play this piece to

shots unlike that's good idea let's do that uh... and he's just he was just amazing the shot that fill talking through that ship shot and then seeing him actually he was just amazing. The shot, Phil talking through that chip shot and then seeing him actually execute it was some of the, like legitimately the best golf TV I've ever seen. It was awesome. Thanks. Well, like I said, that's a testament to the four guys

who completely got what we wanted to do. And they got a little vulnerable. They got a little bit out of there. As much as you say Phil, we'll always kind of go through that type of stuff. Phil was competing out there. Phil didn't want to lose. None of those guys wanted to lose. And you saw that at the end of that, that amazing comeback.

And looking at we were a put away from potentially going into a second consecutive playoff with the match. I'll say the card cam couldn't have worked out any better but Randy is sitting here fuming because of how much he hated the card. And on the fairway. You know what I know. In the rain, I understand, you know, I thought about this because I listened to to the second half of the pod with you guys. So as we can look, here's the problem.

Randy hates carts with roots because he would hate his head the whole time. That's serious. So I get it. So you probably had a traumatic experience. You know, like if you go to the doctor as a kid, you have that experience you hate doctor At the end I could see Randy probably hit his head on a cart one time and he's never forgiven carts and and this is kind of just the defense Making his look the carts that we wouldn't have finished if we walked today. There's no shot. So thank you carts The carts are fine fine a new slam. The carts were awesome. They were a highlight. I thought they were great

All right, Jeff. We'll let you go man Thank you. Thank you for the insight as well and congratulations on a great great production and hope to see many more of these Jeff I got a good feeling you're gonna be Liking what you see on golf Twitter Well, I'll tell you what what I'd love to do a tron if you can just collect some of the things you want me to see and you You can check the socks and you have my number Tron actually does have my number. You can send your inbox already. John actually does have my number.

He just choose to delete it. That's all good. That's all good. All right, guys, you guys have a good rest of your night looking forward to listening to this on the flight home tomorrow. See you, man. See you, man. Well, that's wonderful.

That's great stuff. What did you guys, he touched on JT. We haven't really talked about JT there, but how about that for an addition to a broadcast? Fantastic. The sound bite of him talking to Chuck, you know, about seeing his fat ass try to dunk a basketball right now, I thought it was obviously exceptional. So he was great at that, but he was also great at,

you know, a lot of the, you said this last week, sorry, I don't mean to bring any negativity into a joyous, so, experience. Yes, he did. He took a great pleasure. He said, damn it DJ. No, no, no, he did a lot of- He's always doing this.

He did a lot of things that traditional broadcasters do. And so what I don't want to do is pretend like he invented these things. The problem is I tune out a lot of the other broadcasters. And when he was saying them, I was like, oh, wow, that's like a really interesting thing to say. But he didn't fall into trying to do like an impression of a golf broadcaster.

So I thought he hit the mark perfectly and kind of like struck a good balance between being totally himself and also totally adding a lot of like golf actual golf. He just did it with 50% less words. Like that was just he cut out a lot of riff riff and like to your point, he's still doing some of like, yeah, it's uphill to a certain point. But I think a golf announcer will take forever to say that. And his goal was to get out of the way,

because it's probably going back to another mic that's on the ground there. And like, he just has a natural rapport with those guys and is able to kind of shoot it back at them. They'll shoot it right back at him and stuff like that. So I thought it, it's somebody that tweeted, like it's a bad look when the two best golf broadcasters are not weekly broadcasters between Chuck and JT.

I thought B.A. did a good job too. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. He was a friend of the I thought VA did a good job too. Yeah, absolutely. You was a friend of the chapter. He's a pro. What a great part. I was, Randy. Yeah. I think you mentioned Chuck real quick, but you know, it's a special ability that he has

to dish it out and take it. And I think the specialness that Chuck brings to every podcast is he just loosens everybody up. And so, like Chuck needs to come everywhere. You can mess up everything. You're not going to mess up as bad as Chuck. Right. Just keep firing. And Chuck will make fun of everybody, but then everybody is allowed to make fun of Chuck too. And I think when that's the case, it's people are then free and there's no pressure. And that's when the personality's shine.

What a tough place to live in, where you can have golf hardos like us say this about you, yet entertain the casual viewer. Like there's no one, like some people think Bill Murray is hilarious. Yet a lot of people like that we know don't. And so there's like this division line, but imagine having to do, like cover both of those off.

Bill Murray is hilarious. This golf stuff is not to be. No, I'm starting at the point where, I don't think there's a single person out there that thinks Bill Murray is hilarious in the context of golf anymore. But the goal of like bringing Bill Murray in is to bring in the casual viewer.

Chuck brings in like a casual viewer when he said, so I kind of hate the, when somebody hits a bad shot, like, oh, he looks like me out there, but when Tiger hit the shot, like striped it and Chuck's like, oh, he looks like me out there. But when Tiger hit the shot, like striped it and Chuck's like, yeah, he looks like me. They were both black. Like, I lost it.

Like, I did not see that coming. I thought it was, like, like, I guess that was a dumb comment and then he completely flipped it. But I just think he's like the perfect, he's like the avatar for the every man sitting on the couch, right? Like, he's, like, you said it, I think on the preview, he just cuts right to the core of every issue.

And it just gets to like exactly what the person on the couch is thinking. And that person never seems to have a mic or like never a place in the conversation and Chuck is the perfect representative. Well, like when the couple things stick out when Brady was really struggling on the front and Chuck starts jumping in like, yo Tom, I want you.

I'll give you strokes. It's like a red meat out there. Yeah, getting after him in real time. You know, the Chutzpah to go after Tom in that moment, like nobody else. And then watching Chuck at the end, like, like, he couldn't do shit at the end. Exactly.

Yeah. And then, sorry, if the other thing, like, JT, you know, I'd like to see your fat ass, dunk, but Chuck, in the moment, taking that and then turning it into like, Hey, that's bullying. You know, you get to that on TV. Like, that, it's really good work. It's exceptional. Can I say my favorite thing that he does, which was every time he would talk to one of the guys earpieces, he'd say, Hey, guys, it's me, Chuck. Yeah, of course. We know. There's only like three people talking to me. No, we have a free.

No shit, man, that's terrible. But I will say that when he accused him of bullying him, the PC stuff, you never know which way it's going to go. As soon as he said that, I was like, oh my God, is this the thing that's going to be picked up on the news tomorrow? Is this going to be what becomes the big deal? He leans into it.

Well, that's a thing. I was like, thank God, didn't become like a big, you know, something out of nothing, Moe Hill, and I was very happy about that. Were you gonna say something? I was just gonna say, like, I felt like JT got better and better as the day went along too. Like, you know, and some of that's just the flow

of the broadcast and all that, but I thought him on, you know, 14, 15, 16, like he was really, really adding certain stuff, getting in, basically after Peyton and Tiger were talking, but then before the shot and then getting the heck out of there. And saying it very quickly and decisively. And it was great. And note from Jeff too, that he was the one

pinning the producers, like, hey, let me go in, let me dive in here and do it. I had a question for you guys. What did you think of the virtual first T&N answer? I thought that was the one missed the day. Really. I had a question for you guys. What did you think of the virtual first T&N answer? Thought that was the one message. Really? I thought it was kind of cool. I thought it was very, it was very,

the writing wasn't great. I thought it was just like a little bit, like, it's a little much. I like Samuel Jackson asking why old people are always moving to Florida, talking about Tom Brady, I thought that was kind of good. But, you know, I thought it was a clever way

to kind of, like the Bill Murray, like Bill Murray didn't add anything. Whereas like Samuel Jackson was like, here, you have a purpose. But this was, yeah, but you're also a capital one spokesperson who kind of ran his course during the first match. It would have been, I had some PTSD from the first time. It had been cool if like the opposing team could write the intros for, you know what I mean?

It was kind of like a, well, that was that really serious or was it like the poem about Phil was kind of like, yeah, I mean, it's a little much. But at least I will say it's a name people recognize. It's a catnip for casual fans. And I thought that one thing they did that was good was, for the most part, I think everybody they brought on,

it's like there was like a purpose, like they were there to announce like, oh, I'm also donating $100,000. I'm also doing this, which is like, you know, at least it was a point. They kept bringing on Tron's favorite athletes. I know. I was like, JJ Watt, Rossi, if Serena Williams would have called in,

it would have been. Yeah, JJ Watt is the worst. But isn't that stuff so much? 290 Foudd promoted tweet. It was a thos. Isn't that the stomach for that stuff so much? I guess can't you stomach it so much better when the rest of the content is so good?

Yes. None of that pissed me off. I was kinda like, okay, A-Rod's on the screen, is this good? No, but like he's offering up a donation and he's getting it now. As long as he's showing me a lot of live golf with conversations and just good free-flowing stuff, like you can

violate me. And throw Russell Wilson and you know, JJ Watt and A-Rod, like A-Rod was the worst thing that they did there. By far. That was a lot of left field. No pun intended. A-R-R-R. Yeah, that was tough. And Cap, Cap, Cap, Cap called in. I thought he did a good job.

They got in and out with everyone. Yeah. Even the people that were on video conferences, it was like nobody lingered too long. And you know, it took away from the action a little bit, but it just didn't last too long, I thought. So Brian Anderson, great facilitator, didn't tell you anything.

You didn't see on your screen or didn't need to know. You didn't have too long, I thought. So, Brian Anderson, great facilitator, didn't tell you anything you didn't see on your screen or didn't need to know, didn't have to be like, yeah, cutting over here, someone's over birdies, like, yeah, we know that. Like, they got rid of all of that, which is. He was John Stockton. He was. He was, he was Dishon and Duncan.

How about his, the Maestro, maybe. How about his feeding America joke? Yeah, that was good. Cause feeding Chuck was too daunting or something. That was, that was, oh yeah, he's like, oh yeah, it was good. Because feeding Chuck was too daunting or something. That was... I missed that one. Oh yeah, he's like, oh yeah, it was gonna be feeding Chuck, but that was like too unrealistic.

So they're making it feeding America. Which that was the motor. I was like, whoa, that's pretty... Emelman was... I kept wanting Emelman to be Gary Player. We just didn't... It's just... He... This feels like the moment where we,

it's gonna be the part of the fight that makes the news. I was trying to do the Gary Flare, right? I just can't hit a fairway. That was actually pretty good. I thought he was okay. I thought it was fine. He added some good color. I thought he had some good swing stuff

when they're like, what's going on with Brady Swing? That was good. You know, his spine angles all off and the ball's way too far back. He didn't overdo it. It was a ball for Zalphock. Total ball position issue. He definitely didn't overdo it and didn't like overly serious up the broadcast in any way.

Somebody had a tweet earlier that said there's basically the sign of whoever outside the concert, but it was Greg Norman with the... Yeah. Poor Greg Norman, metalist. How good did that place look on TV? I mean, under, again, horrible. We didn't even talk about the conditions. A lot of people are saying conditions are tough.

Conditions are tough. So, really, really tough. They're really tough. Really. Oh, they're really tough. They're really tough. Yeah. No, it's from the commercial.

It's the only place I could find it. Man, did you make that? That's well. Shout out to the supers, Randy. Just, thank you. Thank you. Hard day ahead of them tomorrow. You know, it is Memorial Day weekend.

I think, you know, I don't know if that's quite, what the weekends all about, but I would think the supers are pretty high up on that list. So, how about that one time, they pulled the pen and didn't put it back in. I thought about you immediately. I know. There were a lot of things behind us.

There were a lot of liberties being taken that were disrespecting the game of golf, but that's okay. There was no into him or no. And we couldn't maybe see. How far is this big of? How about a kiddie Dave? You're a sick guy, Andy.

We didn't talk about Brady ripping his pants, by the way, which, he couldn't have altered his malfunction. He couldn't look less cool holding the shot because his pants by the way, which unbelievable. He couldn't have heard of that. He couldn't have looked less cool holding the shot because he swung his mic pad fell off and he split his pants all of the same thing. So can we talk about like if NBC would have had this like Roger Gidell would have called in. And like, oh these are two of my athletes and they're great guys

and this is just all American. It's like Bernie than Oswald. Archie Manning for sure would have called in. Yeah. Yes. And it's like, no, like don't do that at all. Now the granted, we got a ride, but still. We could take a little bit of a ride.

But a ride was because wheels up, shifted, however much. So, you know, there's a purpose. Yeah. But you got $20 million that we talk about that yet, which, I mean, which, Unreal, man. I mean, God, that is a lot of money. I mean, going from, and we touch on this in the very top with all the things that went

wrong, and we touch on this in the preview of, you know, the lessons learned from the first match. You can't go from a stinkier vibe than Tigran Phil taking photos in front of $9 million of fake cash to raising $20 million for charity, giving people an entertainment product to watch them. There's no other live sports on. You know, everybody, they did a good job working. I'm usually not a fan of working in the tweets

and everything watching, but it's cool to see who is actually watching in this scenario that doesn't seem super forced. Like people were actually into it and entertaining. Patrick, my home's talking shit to Tom Brady. Yeah, that's fun. That's great. I think one of the takeaways I had was,

I think I just got this. Did you get the hot one? I got this spicy pepper. Woohoo! What a Ted is hot as shit. Yeah. Uh, no, I think about the purse, they should not play for actual money.

I think any future iterations, do it for charity or do it for fun because there was a looseness. I thought that was lacking. Like if you're gonna ask guys to actually compete for $9, 10 million, it's a different animal than, hey, you're raising money for charity but it's like, you know, it's not your money on the line.

And I thought, but you also hate this dip shit. But you still wanna win. Yeah, yeah, but it lets guys show a little bit more personality. It's not quite the grindfest. So I thought one of the big takeaways is let's not you know, let's not make them high dollar matches Pay them 15 million behind the scene for all like sure yeah, make sure you know I it's not about like those guys like not getting you know not wetting their beaks Like for sure go ahead and do that or if you do outwardly like nobody cares about that

If you do make a big money like show me the money being withdrawn from their personal accounts. And then like wired to the other guy, then I'm in. But you know, if it's just like who can tell who's money it is. So I thought, yeah, today was great. There was some stuff being floated, which apparently didn't get across the finish line of some stakes in place for the loser between like Tiger and Phil would have to do something.

And I don't want to say I'll allow what it was in case there's the hope for that for the future, but it was going to be seriously good. It's like what I was like pushing for was something that made the other guy not want to lose. I don't care if the winner gets money, I don't care what happens to the winner, but make the other guy be playing for something

that they don't want to do. Which makes people play golf differently, I think, when you don't want to, at the end of Tourist's season three, I did not wanna rub Tron's feet, so I played a lot better in that last round. I was extra motivated. Footage not found. We lost the footage.

Yeah, what happened there, man? What happened was, it was all shot on a different card, and we didn't end up wiping that, or we didn't end up backing that card up, because we had already backed up the rest of the day. Totally my fault, guys. We lost it. No, I lost it.

I don't really have that. We're on the edge. I will say, the footage was very uncomfortable to watch. I should have done it. I did rub solid. It happened. It definitely happened. It would have come with a trigger warning.

Exactly. It was not pretty. It would have significantly changed the mood of the episode. Can we just go back to the whole... No, I'm not going back to, like, you know what I'm saying? You should say that, like, like somebody's stopping you from.

Yeah. Yeah, well, let me go back. I'm taking a spec. You never let me go back. Can we just do this or not? Trying to get some reps here, all right? Let's just go back to, why did we enjoy this?

We enjoyed it because it was unexpected, like it was, it was very unexpected. Seeing context of film tiger hitting great shots, but also tiger or Peyton and Tom hitting. The mystery of whether it was gonna be a good shot. Yeah, there's so much texture there. You know, just, I don't know. I just, I thought everything was unexpected

and everything, there was just a whole air of mystery around it to where we never get that week to week. I think it was mystery and relatability. Yeah, you know where, like those were the two big factors for me was I completely agree. There were, I was like, edge of, you know, it's dramatic, but like I was edge of my seat for a lot of the like,

what the hell, where is Tom Brady gonna hit this? Cause he's so between blowing it off the planet and like flushing it right at the flag. That was awesome. And then the relatability of like, yeah man, if I did this, I would probably hit some of these shots too. That's kind of cool.

Ian, Ian knowing, like, for the first seven or eight holes, like, Brady couldn't find the love face. So, thinking, fuck, like, how is the all-shock gonna go? Right, this is nuts, you know? Well, I think just seeing a bunch of golf in a row that's not all consecutive, great golf, like you just gotta get worn, like it's not. Golf doesn't have to be amazingly well done

for it to be entertaining, right? Like a mixture of some of the highs and lows is what made the part three where they all stuffed it was like, oh, here we go. Cause we haven't even talked about the par three, or the par four where they all played one club. Yeah, the four club challenge. Or the one club challenge, yeah.

Capital one club challenge. Capital one club challenge. Was it? Yeah. Which I, you know, that's better than the last. Yeah, champions for charity. Let me, going back if you'll allow me just respecting the game of golf.

No, I'm joking. I actually thought that was that was fun. I thought you were gonna get some shots in on the Capitol one. I think Randy's been hanging out in our Capitol one cafe here lately here in Jackson's stuff reopened. I almost I was hoping I would like to see him play like three holes with one club. Yeah. Yeah. Because I that went back quickly. Like Phil's second shot I thought was really good and I'm not sure if I appreciated it in the moment. Third shot. The one who you almost.

Third shot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The one where he said he was going to make Tiger go mark his ball. That's right. Tigers. Like if you hit my ball, I'll give you the whole. He almost hit his ball. Yeah. I forgot. That was his third shot. Yeah. Yeah. That was the mega four was in the play. And then Tiger's got to hit like a six foot putt with a four iron and tried to walk it in and lips it. Like yeah, that was a lot of fun. Which the math might have been off on that hole

because Tiger hit four iron, four iron, under a 380 par four, which I think they made it the yardage wrong on that hole or something similar. It didn't quite so much. I thought Jeff said on the podcast that it's a long par four. I thought so too.

Wait, no, I thought it was, you just said he hit four iron, four iron. He hit Tiger hit six iron. No, Tiger iron four iron. He hit Tiger hit six iron. No, Tiger hit four iron. No, it's a six iron. No, it's a six iron. No, I thought Phil hit seven iron, Tiger hit six iron. No, Phil had six, Tiger hit four.

Yeah, that's what Phil was commenting like, Well, like four iron really, and the, it's like smarter and really good decision. It worked really well. Tiger was like stress free. It's like, all right, 48 minutes in. Can we talk about how good Tiger played? Yeah, I don't know that he missed a shot today. Like the one part three kind of wiped it where

everybody else had a close yeah, you know, wipe quote unquote wiped it to like 15 20 feet, but he was just one of badmiss. I'm thinking he left Peyton in the bunker. The one even that was part five. Yeah, that was just like he's hitting that up and after the bunker, you know a couple feet the other way and it's good I've put him in a shit spot. I love paid and ended what 16 or 17 the point five Yeah, 16 I think the 18 was a three or 15 15 15 what were like he there was that there was like God, I was we were for micro bunkers. Yes, they have these little tiny bunkers that are awesome I love them Peyton blading that bunker shot on the par 5 and yelling at it to spin was awesome. Like dead serious.

It wasn't like a joke. Definitely fit there. Spin, it's like dude you've sculled that. 17 is a really sweet hole in metal. It couldn't really do a lot aerially to show off a lot of the holes. But man, some of the like just the way they have so much short grass around the, like the third hole was really cool with the par 5 with a really small green with a ton of short grass around it. It's like, hey, if you wanna hit it close and make an eagle,

you gotta hit a great shot. And this is not an easy up and down from long left. Not a long par-five, but here's how we introduce the challenge. But that, I've all thought all that really shined through a TV. I think, like, I got frustrated watching Peyton because I felt like he was just taking bad lines up the TV. I was like, dude, like you're aiming straight at the short side

of everything, right? Just go to the fat side and then like, but he's incentivized to do that with the format, everything too. I thought a tough look and it was heartbreaking to see that he is this guy. Phil is the overusing the word partner guy. Like just calling your guy partner for the entire day.

That's better than Babe. Which, Brady was in there with Babe. Brady. Yeah, everybody was pretty. Great job, Babe. You're up, Babe. He kisses everybody. We're running so fast. I'm so pissed.

Free corona. Yeah, you gotta remember this. I'll pre-coron. But yeah, the, The film over does everything though. I know. I don't know why you're surprised about that. But the guy that keeps calling you partner all day

is puts extra pressure on you. It's always kind of like a, come on man, come on. Do it, do it, come on partner, let's go partner. Like that would grind me down a little bit. Well, I think he was getting it put on him all day every time I get a person. That's a tough spot because I think the second Phil stops talking to you, if I'm ready and I know I'm playing poor,

then it's like, oh God. Now he won't even talk to me. He's so mad at me. I had a drive on 11. That was unbelievable. It was unbelievable. That hole was like, what, 330? It's 330 if you play out right.

It's like, 300, 310 if you're going straight out. It was unreal. It's like three feet from the hole. I mean, cat. It was unreal. Like, cat three feet from the hole. I mean, cat. It was unreal. Cat kind of got screwed because Peyton, you know, didn't let him. Cat couldn't eat.

Yeah, he could have let him eat. I don't know. But that was the format. That was what was fun about the format. But talking, Phil, talking through, like, no matter what you do, I'm gonna hit driver. It's all awesome. I go ahead and put one out there,

but no matter what you do, I'm sending this. He said that again. I think on 17. That was the part three, I think, right? No, the part five. Oh, right, right, yeah. When Tom was at, he's like, it doesn't matter, dude. Like, we're gonna eat you. Like kill whatever you want. I'm hitting the shot.

I didn't feel like Phil even needed to be playing. He could have just been coached. He could have just been the coach. Yeah. He's like, hey, listen, here's He could have just been coached. He could have just been the coach. He's about, hey, listen, here's what we're gonna do right here. You know what, we're gonna, all right, we're gonna hit 150-year little cutty spinner.

And then, and like, there's no chance that the person he's coaching is gonna be a problem. But like, he totally is accepting that into their heads. And that's the important thing, right? That's why I thought him and Brady were good partners. I thought it was the perfect pair. I thought it was the perfect pair. Yeah, the perfect pairing.

Which is what we said after the match one, was a one-on-one just doesn't let you have that back and forth with your partner, and it was immediate. He was an amazing. He was incredible. Yeah, it was immediate of just the back and forth, and Jeff kind of talked to, like, saying at the beginning that guys weren't talking enough.

I was afraid, I remember hearing that, like there's a long period of silence, I'm like, oh no, like, saying at the beginning that guys weren't talking enough. I was afraid, like, I remember hearing that, like, there's, like, a long period of silence, and I'm like, oh, no, no, no, that's not good because now they're gonna start talking over them, but they never caved. Like, never gave in and they let the guys run. Only cold, I wouldn't even call it an issue, that they ran into was, both teams

will be having a conversation at the same time. And it was kind of hard to hear what was going on, but I did not feel like anything valuable was missed at any point. I can't imagine being in the truck trying to like, oh god. Figure out like who's talking, what mics do I need to constantly be turning up and down?

Like that's the special guy that was there in charge of that Jeff talked about, but how much of a difference do that make? Well, the four guys too, not to sound like a cheese ball, but like you talked about how watching, you know, watching this major Just reminding like how fun golf is and it like lets people into how fun golf is and a lot of that is like being out There with other people right like being out there one on one playing a match Like think of your most fun times you've ever had out on the golf course

Like you probably weren't playing solo. So I thought that did a good job. Rainy shaking his head. Maybe disagree. Well, like going back to playing in really adverse conditions too, when you shouldn't otherwise be out there. I think there was just like, really tough. They're really tough. I think because of that,

there was just this like ridiculousness to the whole day, almost like from the start, that everybody just immediately recognized, it was kinda like, all right, this is what it is. Let's just do it. It should tell ranges. Yeah, you can see them all leaning into it. Yeah, which is great.

Brady was having moisture issues on the range though. The whole range session to start it off was fantastic. Like it's dumping. Yeah, dumping. Brady looks so nervous, which was awesome to see. Which we called in the beginning. It was like watching these guys get in scenarios that are gonna be very different

from the sport that they're great at is gonna be good content. So you could see them turn it on though down the stretch. Totally, the competitiveness. Yes. And the performance was, and he started bending his knees to pay him a little bit too. He got after paying much more than Payton got after now.

You could tell Brady loosened up as it went along and Peyton just from I think surgeries and otherwise is like kind of 10 stuff and got less, less flexible. Peyton trash talking wise wasn't as sharp as I thought he might be. The first go around, he just like kept talking and talking and talking and talking and finally he's like, well I can't bring up Bell Check because he owns me.

I was like, wait, dude, was that supposed to bring Brady down? Because you just owned yourself before the match even started. You can tell he was trying pretty hard and that's kind of thing where it's like, yeah, you can't force that stuff. Brady saying that Eli would have made that was good.

That was a good day. I had three quick hit things I loved. One, maybe the most relatable thing I've ever seen on a golf broadcast, which was Tom Brady looking, like, holding out and then looking back at the hole and counting, like, wood, two, three, four, like, trying to legitimately remember each shot and figure out what he got on the hole.

That was great. Two, fill, chipping with a partner and walking up and not bringing his putter because he was just so sure he was going to hit it close, but then needed to go back to the car and get his putter. And then three, I really liked the shout out to Amanda and shout out to the production, but the more like longer-ish form stories they did. Like the Brady, the story about Drew

Bletsow putting the dye in his socks was really cool. And there was some other, like other good stuff like that throughout where it was. Ernie Johnson's, the Ernie Johnson piece was great. But like even like on course, it was much more, you know, this is what we said in the preview, rather than throw it to like a package of,

here's the tail of the tape, because we need to kill some time. It was much more, hey, we got, you know, two minutes between these next two shots. Like, why don't we tee you up for a story? Well, we had great luck with the first phone call that we made, so why, two minutes between these next two shots. Like, why don't you, we tee you up for a story. Well, we had great luck with the first phone call that we made. So why don't we try another one?

What's going on? You're live on the pod here. Are you going to give up golf or broadcasting or what's next? I don't know if that'd be a good, uh, is this decision for me? But, uh, no, I, uh, I think... i think i'm gonna take the golf that was fun justin this is uh... big randy as a fellow craftsman of this you know on course reporting world i just want to congratulate you i was blown away and and i didn't acceptional job uh... honestly uh... well done

thank you a lot of fun i i honestly i started your work for poor hand uh... i didn't have the height to look out the course like that, but I felt like if I got in the right spot, I could do everything I needed to. It looked like you had some pretty good equipment too. I might have to ask you about that off-air. Well, what was the highlight? Man, it was all fun.

That was a good thing about it. The fact that I mean, I, and we did not need to do much. I mean, these guys have a mic and being good friends. I think it was a big part of it and just kind of letting them go. But it was so funny to me. I think it was honestly underrated just the fact of how nervous Tom and Tatum are. I mean, they've competed at the biggest stage

in front of so many people yet. You get them out of their comfort zone and how uncomfortable they were to start that round. It was crazy to me. Hey Justin's DJ, what were you most nervous about going in and what did you find to be the hardest today because I thought you I thought you shined as well so I'm curious what was going on in your head behind the scenes? No it was a lot.. It, um, thing for me is honestly, there were rehearsal yesterday, probably scared me more than anything

because it's just there, you know, we're trying to make sure everything is good and everyone's talking, but because everyone's talking, it's just the amount of voices that are going on in that headset. I now totally and completely understand why when I go up the

bones and try to talk to him and see how he's doing, why he doesn't really want to answer me because there's people talking to him, he's trying to listen to the players, he's trying to listen to someone else, so that part to me was I just enjoyed that. I just as a whole another element and totally just kind of new new thing for me and I understood something I never did before but it just is I mean those guys they put a lot of hard work but just kind of once I got started and honestly once those guys opened up and got a little less nervous I felt like it's when it got easier for me. JT how it's drawn, how good did Tiger play today?

He did everything he needed to do with those. The one thing I learned especially playing the team offense with them is that for someone who maybe over the course of his career, who will get things from time to time about not being able to drive it well. When you need him to get in the fairway, you will get in the fairway. And there's so many little things that like if you go back and watch on 14, which normally is drivable, but because of the weather was not, you know, him hitting an iron

off the T is whatever, you know, it's an iron getting the fairway, but I don't know if anybody notices, he's hitting it up the left side of the the fairway So you have an angle up the green. It's just it's little things like that where I just kind of got a bigger respect when I played with him His partner and Australia is like you know, I got to the fairway and you know those are stuff that you try to do for yourself But they're situational you just he's thinking that on every tee, you know today He did exactly what he needs to do and it was pretty impressive enough conditions. And can you juxtapose that with with with Chuck coming up 18 there? And I wanted to form so bad I I truly do think that if you would have had a couple of plots before and he would have been fine because he really did he had two good plots but you know it's the first plot that you're hitting on the day you don't

exactly want it to be a 50 footer uphill on fast screens because you know what's up Hill you want to hit hard but because it's fast screens you don't hit it too hard so that's tough and then you know he leaves himself up the whole but it it was tough man I was pulling for him but uh... yeah obviously we wish things to go on a little bit better but uh... it was i'm sure it was entertaining

what about were you worried all when he's stuck tried to stuff you back in the locker after you caught him uh... fat ass that you were going to get in trouble for bullying him uh... a little bit as soon as i said it, I wondered if I maybe should have. You know, I have a bad tendency of just kind of saying whatever comes to my head and that was definitely one of those times, but Charles is such a good dude and I've never played around a golf with them, but I've been around them a handful of times and it's unbelievable just how every single person he's around, he acts like he knows, and he genuinely wants to know, you know, how you doing, is your family okay, and how's everything going, and which is cool.

But for some reason, it's fun talking to Smack-Dum, and when he said that, he just kind of put it up on a seat for me, and, you know, I was gonna let it go, but I just, I couldn't do it. I had to swing at it. I'm glad you didn't let it go. That was great. When did it? I guess you kind of touched on this just a second ago but was it very clear to you that either both quarterbacks or just mostly Brady was nervous or what kind of gave it away to you or how could you tell those guys were maybe a little more nervous going into that first tee? I can tell yesterday that's why I wanted to go out yesterday, just to kind of watch

how they went around. I mean, I played obviously with Tiger and Phillip Bunch, and I played with Tom a pretty good amount of times, and I've been around Peyton, but I hadn't watched him play. So, you know, I felt like one of the guys in the booth, I actually went out and did a little bit of, you know, homework, and I wanted to go watch Peyton play because, you know, if I'm calling a shot, I want to at least know what kind of gaming has or what the tendencies are and I could just tell you know watching him watching Peyton, watching Tom, they just it's out of their comfort zone you know like I said earlier they competed

at the highest level they've won Super Bowl they've done things that nobody could dream of doing but you get them on a golf course and knowing that millions of people are watching they're not going to be comfortable so watching them just talk to, watching taking talk to Tiger and watching Tom talk to Phil it's like what do you want me to do here when I go play with Tom and we go out and play you know number one of metalists he takes the driver out and he hits it all day and then today you didn't even use the driver so, what's with that? It's crazy, man. It is, but I think it honestly just kind of speaks to the things that golf can put in

your head. I mean, these are two of the greatest athletes of all time, let alone in their sport. Yeah, they were not comfortable at all. I hope it went well on TV. I hope it looked good. I mean, they were nervous, but the shots they hit on the back nine after being you know under pressure and nervous on the front nine let alone an alternate shot was unbelievable. I mean I I think the entire world would have

lost after watching the front nine the scores that those guys put up on back nine and a modified alternate. Well we always joke about you know it's much darker than a camera's make it look. Tell us if it was much rainier than the cameras made it look out there. It was tough, man. It was raining. It was dark. My feet are so wet. Like I said, I think it was on 13. I was like the only thing that could have been worse than doing what I was doing was actually playing out there. So I got to see some of the guys after and they were cold, they were wet, they were tired, they were, you know, ready to get some rest. So it was tough conditions out there, too, like anything you touched on all the noise that's in your ear, but anything else in particular that you learned about the production

side of golf on television this week. Oh man, I mean, it's just that the log goes into it. I mean, I obviously had respect beforehand, because it couldn't be done without the production side, but it's just a lot of work. I mean, Jeff did an unbelievable job, and I know you guys had him on your pod. And I would say if my girlfriend was looking at my phone, they would think that I'm cheating on her with the same guy that I'm texting.

I'm texting them in full 30 and tight. It's like I've never texted somebody so many times in four days that I've never even met before until this week. And it's just, it's, it's getting to know the personalities. It's, you know, what I, I asked him so many questions. I even told him last time. I was like, I'm sorry, I asked him many questions. But for me, I wanted to be comfortable out there. I wanted to... I didn't know terms wanted to be the show. I just wanted to be a part of it, and I didn't want to make it work. So I'm asking him questions. I just wanted to make sure everything that I'm doing I'm comfortable with but it just it's so much work in the amount of time that they put in going into this and then seeing the weather today and like this is their baby they put so much time into this and then who knows what's gonna happen.

I'm sure I know the players are and I know I'm happy that it got done and everything went well but man it's it's a whole nother level on the production side. And I'm happy I saw it because it totally gives me a new respect for everybody. You know, just when I thought Vone somehow couldn't get any better at his job, he somehow did and he continues to kill it. JT, did you feel like you were going back? You said there's all this stuff running through my head. I don't know what to say and what not to say. And you started saying more of it. I mean, the big thing is just it's all timing.

And I mean, the biggest thing I've learned from watching these matches is, and I know honestly, just from watching golf when I'm home. It has nothing to do with the matches, but when I'm watching from home is like, I, if they're having a conversation, I want to hear it. And that's just me, you know, as a player of these guys that I'm playing against every week, I want to hear it.

And if I'm on the wrong, we let alone, when they're legitimately miked up, not just a boom mic as close to them. So that was my number one priority today, is just to not, I did not want to interfere with that. I wanted to let them go. I wanted to let them do their thing because, again, like I said, this is their show. This is, people are tuning in to just to listen to them talk, to listen to what they have to say, and that's what I wanted to have happen.

So, honestly, the most nerve-wracking part for me was just beforehand all the pre-game and just kind of getting through because once we got in the course, you know, when I'm getting asked to call a shot, I mean, that's what I do. I'm during a tournament. I'm everything that I'm saying out loud, calling Phil, Tom, Peyton, Tiger, whatever, that's exactly what I'm thinking. So that's not hard for me. The hard part is just fitting it in a window that works with the broadcast and fitting it in a time that works without the guys actually talking. So to me that was the hardest part. But once we got on the course, I mean it was just me hanging out

with four guys that I know and I want to talk trash too and have fun with and walk from placing golf and raise a lot of money for a great cause. What's the end of doing? Last thing we'll let you get out of here. We are shooting a while world of golf this week and just anything you can pass along to Randy would be really helpful on you know kind of key advice. I'm always trying to get better. Randy from what I'm hearing it sounds like you just seen a little bit better equipment.

So I don't really know what to tell you there. Amazon Prime is a tough scene right now. Slow delivery. Very tough, very quick. If you could like, I don't know if you could snatch some of the equipment that you use, just, we can work something out, but maybe just steal some of it.

As soon as I finished on 18 green, I asked where the equipment needed to go and they said, leave it. I literally, I pulled that belt off and left it on the grass. I don't know if it's there, I don't know if someone got it, but I couldn't have gotten inside quickly. We'll check eBay then, maybe it's up tonight.

Well, I'll let you out on this. On TV, I would say viewing that on TV was fun as hell. Was that as fun as it looked like to be a part of? It was fun, man. It was so much fun. It's just the hard part when you get to you know stuff like this where they're raising obviously so much money for for a great cause and but they're just they're also competitive that they don't want to lose and I mean I would say the greatest part of the

one of the biggest characteristics about a great competitors that they're you know they're not great losers or they don't want to lose. So, you know, losing holes you could sell for a fill, especially fill, is that it was not sitting well with them. But if the end of the day you have to remember that what it's for and I mean, I just, I think all four guys that such an unbelievable job and I'm glad to not say this in front of them But I mean Tiger and Phil it you know, I obviously I respect them and their competitors of mine But they they both deserve this platform that they're on I mean there's so many guys out in tour that are kind of pushing the game along Where it is but the reason that it is where it is is because of guys like them

So it's so deserving that they that they were a part of that spotlight in terms of the Representing golf it was just fun just listening to to those four guys and being competitive So it's sort of theering that they were a part of that spotlight in terms of the representing golf. It was just fun just listening to those four guys and being competitors, having fun with each other, but also wanting to win. It was great. Obviously, ended up being a great match and it was cool to be a part of it, but hopefully down the road, I can be a part of it on their side.

So I don't want to worry about messing up on the air anymore. Well JT speaking in which obviously I think you eventually want to be a part of this. When's that going to happen and who do you want to be with as far as partner of us? And I don't care how that is unfortunately not my not my position to speak on either for playing or for a partner but if and when the time comes, I'll be happy. But there's someone's going on and I'm just honestly happy to be playing the colonial with myself. And to be perfectly honest, I'm happy that I have a caddy in Jimmy when it rains because that's stuff just calling golf without a caddy today. I had to hold my own umbrella, so that was tough. I'm a little wet after all that, but now I will be,

if the opportunity presents itself, I will be more than happy no matter who my partner is and what's going on. Well, 20 more last questions here, and we'll let you go. No thanks. No kidding. No kidding. You got a lot to say, man. All right, we'll let you go.

Thanks for calling in. Go dry off and congrats on a great first time. Commentating experience All right, should we get to some questions? We had a lot of great questions People get mad at us when we ask for them and don't get to them, which is that's on me. That's fair I read them I read a lot of them and then like I kind of gauge it in forms of pop. Yes exactly So I have a question I have stally steals of it just as I credit of gazed. It informs the podcast. Yes, exactly. Wait a minute, a question I have. He's totally steals them and just doesn't give credit. I've got a great question for you guys.

How good was the cat at a moisture management today? No issues. He was always straight to the towel. Yes, so many towels. A lot of golf towels. Well, I love towel. How many sweetens logos did was Peyton Rockin' he had the duffel.

He had the duffel heavily featured there. With the OG logo, the barrel logo. Did he literally change hats on every hole? Yes. That's unbelievable. That's a man who, every hole or every few holes. I thought of this every hole. Every time I remembered to check he had a different hat on it.

Well, he was trying to represent all this. Which is great. That's great. I loved it. You should do that. You should do that. You should do that. I want his boy Rosie back in New Orleans? He gave a lot of shout out to us.

A serious question from anti-fowldo. Who are you choosing for the next one? Two golfers, two other athletes? Which before we get to that, shout out to anti-fowldo. The guy brought the noise on Twitter today. He always fantastic. Jacksonville resident. That's right. I think it's a no-brainer as far as celebrities. And this is a recency bias, of course, with the last dance, but I think it's MJ and Steph Curry. That's a good one. I don't know how you'd beat that.

I think you would say John Paxon. But yeah. Yeah, I would say Chuck, Chuck Hortisek, Chuck and MJ, but. Scott Barrow. Chuck's like, nobody likes Chuck more than me. Like he stinks. He stinks it golf though.

I would love he's low handicap privilege. He's there. That's disgusting. I can see he's got to be in the booth. He's great. So I feel like Ramos this other, I don't know, Ramos in this other camp, right? Where he's a broadcaster already.

He's got CBS affiliation and all that. So he's kind of set aside. I think he'd be good in the booth camp, right, where he's a broadcaster already. He's got CBS affiliation and all that. So he's kind of set aside. I think he'd be getting into the booth day too, right? So I feel like you get Roma involved, but I feel like it's Lairford's Gerald and Steph Curry as the two guys. That'd be interesting. Steph Curry is a definite.

I think Roma would be good to get. I think it's gotta be MJ. I don't think MJ would do it. I don't think he would be. I think you pay him, dude, you got it. It's, you know, the engine has all the money. I don't think MJ would do it. I don't think you would either. I think you pay him, like dude, you gotta, it's, you know, two days. And then it has all the money. He took, he turned down $200 million for a two hour speed,

like for a two hour conference. He doesn't need it anymore, money. Is that real? Well, there's like more to it is. Well, no, I mean, come on. It was like he had, they were to use some part of his likeness and some kind of deal and then he had to come and show up for like a two hour meet and greet conference or something

for $200 million. And he said no. So I thought MJ would do it. Like MJ, MJ is objectively MJ's a billionaire. Yeah. But the question wasn't realistic, right? I think MJ is the right answer. No, I think the question is realistic.

Like, well, let's put him in an unrealistic camp though, but I still think he's target number one But if we're taking him off I would say Steph Curry is next for me. I think he'd be fantastic at it I think loads of Sheryl's up there in the Romo and then Igodolo be good. Maybe Steph and Igodolo Yeah, pack man will be great. I think pack man will be awesome. Can he cross state lines? I feel like he's got some Which before we get to too many more questions, we usually save the coverage stuff as, you know, all right, now we'll start being critical.

But can we just take like a victory lap on golf on television? Heist it. A lot of things we've been saying for so long, we've been desperate, desperate to see, all came to fruition and how much enjoyment did everyone get out of that? Seemed like a lot.

We're not asking for a whole lot. There were more in-program ads and activations than anything we've watched this year. And this is different than producing an event with 80 players playing a weekend and all that. There's different challenges. It's not apples to apples. But I posted something afterwards

and I think it touched it, like, I think it speaks to that a little bit, at least how I feel personally, because there was a lot of like, oh my God, this is great, we need to do this all the time, blah, blah, blah. I don't think that's the takeaway. Yeah, it's like, no, like,

the takeaway is not, like golf becomes a bunch of zany exhibitions. I don't think anybody's saying that. I think the takeaway for me is like, man, you can do a hell of a lot if you just get a little creative and let the right parts of the broadcast shine and really like both A, make it somewhat relatable to put into perspective how good these guys are and B, when they are doing something exceptional,

like really let them speak for themselves and explain how exceptional it is. You know I agree. Yes, you know. I was so locked into every single shot today to themselves and explain how exceptional it is. You know I agree with you. You know. I was so locked into every single shot today. And not to pick on, you know, it's not a competition between this and like the Taylor made one,

but not a close one. I was, you know, well, 30 minutes into that. Like I was so checked out, I don't remember any of the shots anybody hit except maybe a, you know, a small handful. But this is why we were so upset last week at them having them mic'd up and screwing it up. It was like, this is what the alternative to that was. Like, you had the hard part done,

just don't talk over them, and we might have had that with forest. You didn't have the right producer. Yeah, it just wasn't coordinated properly, and I'm sure it helped for the match to see that, and see all that feedback and like, hey guys, if we mess this up, like we are gonna get roasted.

This is not gonna go well. You're gonna have a bad time. And people are gonna criticize us. All right, oh, you guys are fluffin' the producer and all that. Yeah, we had New Barthon here, he was producer. You know what, he hasn't produced a bunch of other stuff. He's not in the mix all the time. Right.

He's outside the box. He's hearing the feedback and saying, hey, how would I apply this, right? And I think just from the perspective of, like, I don't know, there's just like so much that's to be done differently. I mean, the mic to up players is great, but like, again, let's plan for every contingency,

like let's say the players don't let that happen, the tour doesn't let that happen or whatever. Let's say that goes out the window. Get some commentators in there who are not like, you know, going to make you tune out. Like I think that was a big, a big aspect of it. I think having fresh blood in there and having different people who push the envelope. Like it's fun to have JT, you know, kind of loosen up. It's fun to have a Charles Barkley. I mean, he does professional basketball games. Those are very serious competitions. To Tron's point though, we're not praising this because New Barth comes on our pod

and talks about the production, it's the opposite. It's like New Barth's willingness to kind of bounce, and he's not solely responsible for that. It's representative of his team, though, are willing to go outside the box, willing to bounce ideas off of us, and the public and understanding that, I'm not taking credit for this in any way,

but we're in touch somewhat, I would say, with what fans want. And he wants to know, how can they incorporate that into their broadcast and did that shine through today? Would anyone person listening to this or watching this argue otherwise? If you have to. They're not so set on the status quo that that's not their judgment, basically.

We're like, all right, like we're, you know what? If nobody likes this broadcast, we're out the door here. And like I feel like once that happens with these other guys, it's kind of like, all right, cool, like all bets are off. We're ready to roll here. Which I think the question, the re-nation is, how does, you take this,

which you can't take this and take it to the PJ Tour. That's not how it works. Like there's a million reasons why I can't do that. But you can take parts of it take it to the PJ Twis? That's not how it works. There's a million reasons why I can't do that. But you can take parts of it. And exactly. So what are those? What are those maintenance?

I think it's the commentators, I think loosening up and not making everything so self-serious and so. Self-serious is the perfect word. You need to have serious moments and there were even serious moments of this. You could feel the tenseness come in. For four straight days of 48 tournaments a year,

you don't need to be so fucking serious all the time. Like loosen it up, bring in some other people who will just lighten the mood a little bit. Oh, this is the second round of the Detroit rocket mortgage classic, like, gosh, this is just such a momentous event and all that and Randy's sitting over here falling asleep on the couch. You know, what did you think, Randy? What would you take away from today and package?

It's hard to know, but I would have to think if the players weren't willing to be mic'd up in some capacity, you could get around that with miking up the caddies. I don't know what's feasible with it's a player run tour, of course. So I don't know the answers to any of those questions, but if you put mics on Caddy's, if like you said, it's easy to say, well, you know, bring in some announcers. I don't know who those people are necessarily like Johnny Miller was great. I'm sorry. He retired.

But like part of the deal is maybe nobody knows who those people are and you're bringing somebody like Brian Anderson who doesn't matter who the announcers are, as long as they move the action along, it's not about the announcers. If you've got stuff to throw it to though. I mean, that's something that like, you know, when Terry Ganon's calling on golf on a Thursday, he doesn't have that luxury of, like,

let me throw it down to Phil and Tiger and Brady and all that. So I don't know if the answer is microphones and cups, like Fox has, which pick up like some sound bites on the green. It's not about the ball going in the hole, but it's like, but that is like it comes down to production and knowing how to use those snippets or like, you know, going back, I think looking at last week, it was all about last week to me was for the hardcore fan, right? I wanted to see Seminole, I wanted to see serious golf between four serious golfers

and they whiffed so, so, so badly on that. And then this week was, hey, I wanna see, like, I just wanna be entertained, right? And if anything, I got more serious golf out of this this week and also, like, I was more entertained. Well, I think that's another one, like, you know, what can you package and what can you take away is the way that they put stuff into context,

I thought. And I think some of that was having JT, some of that was having the ability to focus in really on literally just four players. But I think when someone hits a good shot, explain why it's such a good shot in a new way and a more engaging way. JT said, he said on a shot where Tiger hit it's like 30 feet from like 200 yards out. And JT was like, God, that was such a good shot.

I can't explain how good a shot that was. And I said the same thing. I was like, God, that was such a good shot. Well, that's what I was gonna say, even beyond explaining why it was such a good shot, like explain why it's such a hard shot leading into it. Because then you really want to see whether they pull it off or not.

And we're getting down the wormhole, the rabbit hole. Let's stick to some more questions. Should we? We'll get to a few more. Stick to sports. Yeah, stick to sports. Car for the course, events like this should be live. Events like last week should be taped

and condensed slash produced. Last week's discussion. It should have been cut down to a shell's while we're a golf. Or wonderful. I'm so far down the wormhole with our own shit where I can't even tell what a wonderful or a golf while I don't know what the real thing is.

Careful, we're gonna get some copyright trouble. We're gonna be people who claim that we can't be caught. Can I take it once that further? Is this a no bad idea, Zone? Are we free to express ourselves? Hour 24 in, I think we're good. Honestly, most tournaments on the PJ tour, like Thursday, Friday should be taped

and like produce down into a one hour telecast. Yes. Like, do you just whittle it down, like get some good sound bites from players afterwards really explaining some of the key shots. I mean, there's so few, not all rounds, like majors of course, there's some big tournaments and of course now you get into a fight of like what's going to be carried live and what's not. There's a lot of tournaments I would watch a stripped down one hour version of rather than sitting

for five hours on Thursday of the X tournament. And I'd be hell of a cheever to produce too. It's gotta be something where the result really doesn't matter. Like Shell's wonderful world of golf, the result does not matter. So tape it, like who cares who wins, like produce it and make something entertaining out of it. It's all like, I guess the, I know what you're gonna say.

The alternative is that is like, and I love this tournament to win, like produce it and make something entertaining out of it. It's all, I guess the, I know what you're gonna say. The alternative is that is like, and I love this tournament to death, but like, who gives a shit, like who's leading after the second round for John Deere Classic? But if you're the tour and you're gonna guess, you're gonna sell that to John Deere, like you're not, but I guess we're not seeing,

like my thing is that coverage and the broadcasts is doing such a poor job of showing us who's leading and who is, because oftentimes somebody who's teed off in the morning and has already off the course, where like it doesn't, like first two rounds, it doesn't matter. Just give us the, and actually you could serve this sponsor that much better. Like you could show the whole course,

you could show the whole package of the tournament. I think people will get, like, then we get back at like, really Tiger Woods on the golf course right now and I can't watch them. It's not live right now, which I think take, with how valuable live sports are, it's really hard to argue. Like, I think to carve for the course's question,

last weekend's driving really like 100%, the result did not matter for that. No one's gonna tweet out the spoilers from the event. Now, weekly PJ Tour event, yeah, I think live obviously makes a lot of sense. Guys, confession, I have no, like I went to the beach last week. I still have no idea who won. There's a thrilling playoff. The rib in close to ten. The greatest player of all time added, Ricky was involved.

Would you care to hazard a guess whether his team won or lost? Randy, please. That's unfair. He played great last week. Please tell me. Peyton Manning, by the way, to throw some flames to Randy. Peyton Manning now has many PJ Tour challenge wins as Tony Fina. Mm. That's right. Obviously, field events. Because they're bad. This was just another opposite field. Tony's never going to win.

He's got the curse of the Puerto Rico Open. Exactly. He's been playing with Zach out bad guys Bad guys. Well, by the way, Zach's playing a pro scratch if in Wyoming The middle of fucking nowhere Wyoming It's great. Larsony crooks. Yeah, I would watch a one hour straight down broadcast of that but not the live thing This question is Dan this question is for big Randy from Larsony Crook. Is Phil's neurotic energy approaching Bryson backyard driving net levels? I don't really know it.

I don't either, but I thought it was a lot of... I feel like he only gone on a Twitch stream. Every so no, the Instagram videos that Bryson's posting are, and I'm not a big like go follow Bryson's Instagram, so people have been sending him to me. They're unbelievable. It's just him, it's like when we were at Coastal in Newark Golf the other day,

and the long drive guy was hitting next to us, it's like that, he's just like grunting and swinging as hard as he, you would love it. It's unbelievable. And that's exactly what Phil looked like today, so I can relate to the question. To answer the question then yes. I'll say, I, Phil's whole deal is great,

and I continue to maintain the Brycesons whole deal is great. Joshua Weeks, did anyone literally jump off the couch when a, Phil almost hit Katz Ball for telling me to market and of course, B Brady hooping it? There was a lot of screaming, yeah, some were watching it, yeah. There was shrieking going on.

It's kind of said to DJ, I was like, like, they gotta be fucking with it. Yeah, that wasn't real. That's the one that's gonna keep you coming back. Exactly. How do you go from not finding the club phase to a sick shout that's back spun into the hole? That was what really got me was all the back spin on it.

As a fellow 8.1. I saw exactly what he was doing. It was the old rope. We were talking about that for a second. It was the old rope adope. How, what is the actual, what would you have to give Tom Brady? Stroke wise. Like you guys are not playing right now. The USJable says we're both 8.1.

Anytime, you know what, he won't show up. Anytime he's ready to go, I'm happy to throw it out with him. I think we could touch on this a little bit, but at InChainy 3, felt like the cartcams were great. Does Big Randy change his tune on writing, or is he still concerned about the supers and the damage to the course after this? I'm exceptionally concerned about the course.

And, you know, putting the supers in such a difficult position, where if they're to speak up, you know, they're gonna come under such a fire. Yeah, coming against, you know, this charity match, I think it puts them in a very difficult position. I think you're... I wish you guys could see the series to some extent.

I think you're adding hours to their workload on a holiday weekend. It's, which is supposed to be about the troops. Which is supposed to be all about the troops. Yeah, it's disgusting. I, if not only am I not backing off it, I'm more impassioned. No cards.

Card cams might have saved this thing. Card cams are sweet. It actually gave you a good transition to the next hole. And honestly, like, my eyes were on the screen every time they were writing in their cards. It's the fill driving 11, and then the suspense of him driving up

to see where his ball was. It was fantastic. Yeah. We thought, I think Tiger and Tomlin should be partners just cause they started to look similar. And then Brady and then Mikkelson, I'm not sure who you pick for Mikkelson. Like Andy Reed maybe, but no, it's lost a lot of weight.

Come on, look great. All right, so what at M-Shratt M underscore Shrives, what's the balance between this 20 million raised for charity and version one, playing individually for nine million? The players need to get paid, but it can't always be measured against this philanthropic scenario,

but maybe it always needs a charity component, discuss. I think I touched on that a little earlier. I, from my perspective, you know, you can pay in behind the scenes, but I don't think the match buildup should be about the payout or the money on the line. I think it's gonna be more entertaining if it's for charity on the scenes, but I don't think the match buildup should be about the payout or the money on the line. I think it's going to be more entertaining if it's for charity or if it's for dumb stakes.

Well, that seems like a parting question. Where do these go going forward? What does it look like? Because I do think that there was so much juice in this one. There was so much excitement because the first one it felt like they really nailed. I think if this was the eighth one that looked identical, we would be complaining like, oh, these are starting to get a little stale. And so I don't know what they do to kind of keep that

from happening. If they are planning to do more, which I assume that, you know, this was a raving success, they will be planning to do more. But yeah, I'm curious, I would love to hear the panel's discussion. That's a fair question of,

is this, are we so high right now on this because of comparatively speaking, it was great, but is the fourth one of these? Yeah, I don't wanna see one of these next week or two months or three months, but yeah, in December, do I wanna see one of these when the tour season is wrapped up?

Sure, and I think. And what would make you excited for that, I guess? Going back to our discussion from earlier is I would love to see... I would obviously see old versus young. Tiger and MJ or Tiger and I'm not even sure who else would be a good candidate. But somebody else in the NBA who was older and then JT and Steph. That'd be great. I still think the most important part of this,

and we said this before, match one, was our hopes that this would help drive change to normal television production. It hasn't since then, but I think still the most important thing that can come from this is not more good versions of this. This is an example. It's examples of change,

which I don't have confidence that they'll get. No, I totally agree, but I also think that more of these will happen. And so I think it's interesting to kind of think of... Because I think about the future of these. Part of it is, I feel like the incumbents, the CBS's and the NBC's look at these and say, like, fuck these. Like, these are the flunkies or the guys that didn't make it into our broadcast things. When it's like, no, these are the guys that are actually listening to the feedback

and kind of acting on it and all of that. And then also, to a certain extent, I feel like this is what the PGL would look like. Like, not necessarily minus Peyton and Tom, but also, you know, you're looking at 48, 50 golfers every week who are mic'd up, who are, you know, playing courses that are, like, they're basically, like, you're showing every shot of theirs and you're showing different feeds and all that. And, I don't know, I just feel like it's basically,

like, it's more fan-focused than it is. Just, you know, jacking off at the temple of the... Don't finish that sentence. Whatever you're gonna say, don't finish that sentence. At the temple of the FedEx cup. There you go. There we go. Well, in fairness, let's do this question at West Heartline.

A veritable libpissative FedEx cup points. Exactly. How would that have been better? We got to be fair. If we want to be criticalExca point. How would that have been better? We got to be fair. If we want to be critical at any point, how would that have been better? I mean, that's seriously what would any of you have done to improve that format and execution aside from fewer commercials, which really wasn't that bad, maybe? I think we said this up front, but for me, I would play all-chot the whole time, I guess.

Who could have predicted that that would have been? Or dude, I don't think nine holes is too short. I think 18 holes is probably too long. Do a 12 hole match. And then also I would have broken up the T's a little bit more, where you put like more strokes too, for like, Peyton Brady playing at 465 hard part four. Like that's still seemed excessive.

I was disappointed in the Barclay challenge. I didn't know it was pre-recorded. I mean, it's not that hard. I was disappointed in the Barclay challenge. I didn't know it was pre-recorded. It was kind of flat and I was expecting it to be the cherry on top of everything. Granted, it was very dark and so maybe not even feasible to do it live, but had he gotten out of the booth and gone out there and had those four guys around him

roasting him the whole way down, that's kind of what I was pictured. I think that should be a recurring thing, by the way. Can Charles make a bogey? Yeah, I think part of that was, I think part of that was if they would have wrapped it up by 13 or 14, that probably was gonna happen. I think that was what the plan was.

It was like, we have a pre-recorded one if it gets too dark, but if not, we are gonna save the last hour. I thought Charles is, because I thought Charles sold sold it like he was gonna go do it. I'm like, oh, that's terrible. That's terrible, can he? So I apologize to any snowpiercer fans for any delay overrun of this podcast. That was a Bungie, no.

Snowpiercer, Kyle, I'm like, check it out on the man. The movie's wild. Randy, don't laugh at this. I'm being dead serious. Don't be a dick. Okay. Do you think this helped grow the being dead serious. Don't be a dick. Okay. Do you think this helped grow the game? No.

God damn it, man. I'm just kidding. This didn't grow the game. Like, what, so going back, we were out at Jack's Beach this week. Does the game need to be grown? It was maybe too big. Thank you, John.

That's what I've been saying for no less than five years now. I don't know why this would grow the game. Well, and I don't know what the answer is. I mean, I don't think it needs to grow the game. I don't think it does either, but I think it did grow the game. I mean, I don't think whether you wanted to or not. Whether you wanted to or not. But what I'm getting at, do you think people watch this thought,

oh my gosh, golf looks fun, and we're in the middle of a pandemic. I have nothing to do, maybe I'll go to the driving range tomorrow. I think you can make a slight case for yes. Yeah. I believe your phrase in the scenario is, golf looks like a delightful romp. Yeah, exactly.

It does. I would definitely think so. I don't know, I just thought that's an interesting question. I'm not, you know, who's to say, really? I think that's, I think parallel to that. Golf is in a wild place right now because to your point on Jack's Beach, like, there's not a lot for people to do. Talking to the people at Jack's Beach, like, which is our, we talk about all the time,

but our local community here, it is overrun with people right now. It's absolutely insane. They're on pace, like since March 1st, they've averaged 222 rounds a day, which is whatever on pace for 80,000 rounds. It's just like 30% over last year, which was the record breaking here in 25 years. Point being, there's a lot of people, whether they're golfers who don't get to play

because they don't have time or they're people trying it out or whatever, there's a lot of people that are playing golf right now in a good, I feel like this match, whether it does anything to help the game hurt the game, whatever, it was extremely well-timed, I think, at the minimum. It feels like golf is catching a small break, which is kind of fun to see. I'll throw in one last shout for the Ernie Johnson pre-game essay. I know we've gone mentioned it in passing, but from all records I've ever heard of anyone

that's ever worked with them, he's the goat, and like the greatest, and I do that a lot of people root for, and T.C.'s raised in his hand. So I like to just acknowledge this, that Ernie Johnson, Marist, graduate, Marist Alombe, really, the Marist Alombe. The Marist, cool. Shout out to Atlanta, Georgia.

That's cool. Normally, I think a lot of benefits of the doubt in terms of obviously this is a charitable endeavor and Like a flip. If there was a I think it's fair to say if this was a fluff piece in the middle of a PGA tour broadcast I would be critical of it But in this scenario fit and was great. So I can talk out about sides of my mouth. But the best. Yeah, so that was that was really cool And I just thought I yeah, like I said, they came into the first one with this, this is gonna be the greatest. And here we go and they afforded themselves

no benefits of the doubt. And this time around, they just quietly went about their business, they showed instead of told and it was a delightful romp. That might be the biggest takeaway right there is if you're making anything inside of golf, is like, the more you tell me it's gonna be fun, the less fun it probably is gonna be.

Like just make it fun. Don't try to come up with some contrived plan to like trick me into thinking it's fun, just actually make it fun. Speak softly and carry a big stick. There we go. Like the cat. I could think of no better way to wrap this unless you guys have anything else.

We can go to the man in the arena for a while, if you want to put it. I don't know, any other TR quotes to drop off. No, I can't. I don't have any. Shout out to the national parks. Well, thank you for everyone for tuning in. This was a part I think we were very much looking forward

to doing rather than being very frustrated and upset at what we watch on television. And I hope there's many more of these in the future, properly spaced out so we don't get sick of them, but congrats to everyone involved. And thanks for entertaining us on a Sunday. And thanks to the people who took our phone calls as well. Yes, as well. Yeah, serious.

Seriously, thank you. Yeah, thank you. I was, I went to the beach last weekend after nine holes this weekend. I was giddily laughing at DJ and saying, like, this is awesome. Yeah, great. Which we are, if you are listening to this podcast, you know how hard we are to please.

And this please does. So thank you for that, cheers and crackle on. Yeah. Ooh. Give it a big club. Be the right club today. Yes. Yes.

Be the right club today. That's better than most. How about in? That is better than most. Better than most. Back anything different?