No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 32: Shane Bacon From Fox Sports

Episode Date: March 22, 2016

Back yet again is Shane Bacon from Fox Sports to talk about the latest happenings in the golf world, the Match Play event this week, the upcoming Masters, and a lot more. Shane has some... The post NLU Podcast, Episode 32: Shane Bacon From Fox Sports appeared first on No Laying Up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most! Ladies and gentlemen welcome back to the No-Langup podcast. I am Chris Solomon. Been away from the game for about a month now. Apologies for that. We've been doing some transition stuff on the website, moving over to a new host and didn't want to throw up a whole bunch of material. In the process of moving over to a new host.

But beyond that, we have back for, I've definitely lost count how many times, but probably for the last time ever, we're never gonna hear from this guy again because he is starting his own podcast over at Fox Sports.com. He is, of course, Shane Bacon. I got a list of things that we have to get in.

Now that I'm never gonna to hear from you again. Well, yeah, I mean, that's true. Probably just some, probably, I'm going to delete your number. And it's like we're breaking up, really. Podcasts breaking up, I guess. So we can still text all this stuff we can't say online, all right? Yeah, no, it's, it's, I'm just making sure that that's still open. That's still open.

An open line of communication between us. I'm not sure I'd be able to watch golf turn a bird to live seven days in a row without the ability to at least say, can you believe this? Somebody just said this. I think our offline conversation, we used to publicize pretty much all, it would all be on Twitter, but our offline conversations during golf is what has gotten me through some of these moments. Some of the stuff we talk about, can't say a lot on the air. Which is kind of funny because I do sometimes see things you say on Twitter

and I'm like, I wonder how many edits that went through before you were like, this is the one I'm going to go with. Because I mean, some is pretty edgy still. I mean, I do think you've gotten to a point, you know, I mean, your following's gotten big enough to wear. You probably don't say a lot of stuff, right? I mean, there are plenty of things you avoid or you have in your mind that you don't go with. Yeah, more because like, I just try to avoid somebody misinterpreting what I'm saying. And it's impossible.

It's absolutely impossible because people will like make an argument and that's something I'm not even arguing about. Like, today I just posted a picture, a map of all the places where they had European tour events so far this year and Everyone's like ripping on before it like what's because of the weather in Europe? I'm like oh Of course it is like I think I understand why they're not playing Europe. I just Sounded interesting. My voice my voice is that it's the European tour It's like if our if our West Coast swing was in Vancouver, you know, well, we're back in the States, finally, right around April.

I mean, it is funny because I mean, you think about, so I guess the European tour starts in Dubai mostly, right? I mean, the year would kick off kind of there and they're there for what, two or three, four weeks. They go, it's South Africa. They do kind of a wrap around thing too, where they start in South Africa and they go to Dubai and Qatar and then Thailand and India all over. And then I think they start in Spain when they come back from the Masters maybe or maybe even

sooner than that. But I mean, yeah, I live in Europe and it's not, you don't want to be playing golf here this time of year. I mean, it's nice in like Italy and Southern Spain and stuff is time of year, but I mean, anywhere in Northern Europe or in Scotland or anywhere in England, you're not gonna have enough daylight and you're not gonna have enough warmth

and lack of rain to be able to get a tournament in. So it was just, yeah, everyone finds something to needle with every little tweeds. So that's what I protect myself when I'm still not afraid to ruffle some feathers. Although I've been getting a lot of heat for making fun of Mike Weir lately. So I'm starting to feel bad for my fellow Canadian friends.

Yeah, I mean, he didn't do anything to you. All he did was, he all he did was play incredible golf for like a 10 year stretch and then, as immediately, and it does not play a good golf anymore. I was gonna ask you, back on the European tour thing for a minute, because for as many funny tweets and gifs and things like that that you create, you guys are also so good. You in particular with the social accounts, but on the side and stuff, I feel like you guys

are so good at diving deeper than numbers and finding a couple that drive your points. I was going to ask, where do you look up your stats at? Because I mean, I have a couple of the places I go to, because it is hard to find PJ tour stats compared to European tour stats. And do they overlap because so many events are considered both now. And I do think it's a tough sport to nail down numbers in

because there's so many tournaments all over and they don't always fall into one call. Yeah, it's hard and that's where again I get kind of needled on certain and have to be very careful with how I word the tweets, right? Because like, it's like if I'm counting speech victories, do I count the hero world championship or whatever? Right. Or do I count like European tour starts when I say somebody's one five other last 12

starts or whatever, but no, I just tried to I tried to accumulate I don't know I use different all different sources. I mean PJ Tour dot com is pretty good about historical stats and stuff and I go to players Yahoo pages a lot because that those are good for their PJ tour stats. But that's where yeah, I at least like look around as well to make sure you know I'm wording a tweet right otherwise somebody's just gonna blow me up on on something I said but Yeah, I try to I got some sources to some guys can give me some information behind the scenes and Yeah, so I love I love when Mark Brody's report comes out on the Mondays or Tuesdays whenever about the I love when Mark Brody's report comes out on Monday's or Tuesday's whenever about the Stroke's gain and stuff looking back at the weekend because that's where I think a lot

of people stuff a long ways to go as far as incorporating that into analysis. I think it's such important data and a lot of people refuse to try to make sense of it. Even guys on tour, when I talked to Billy Horser on the podcast, he just said, Stroke's gain T-Degrean was the only stat he doesn't look at. And I'm like, me personally, I think that's the best stat there is out there. So it's really interesting to see guys that they have these measures to help them with their game, that is their living, and they're just kind of refusing to go along with it. But I mean, that's a little bit like the analytics

in baseball and in NBA now and stuff, where for so long people are going to look, there's so much more information out there that you can dive into and all the kind of old school types where like, no, it's about wins or a or a, or a jump shooting team can win the championship. So I mean, I just feel like there's so many of those type of people out there, and you do wonder if players just have been, you know,

they've been pointed to certain things, you know, I mean, what's your putting average, you know, what's your scrambling stats, things like that. But yeah, it's interesting when you do dive into it, because I do think of all this hoards, it seems like all would be the most analytical one to look at. And I do think that a lot of the time people just stop looking at it. It's like top 10s.

I go to top 10s a lot when I'm looking at how players have played because to me, if you're playing against a stink golf, that's great. But it's funny because what's so different from a type from 11th and a type of 10th, there's nothing. So I really try to find trends in that. So there's six top 14s in eight starts. To me, that's just as impressive because you're just right around the lead,

you know, at a lot of events. Yeah, and oftentimes it's like one shot that's really making the difference in that. Right, it's in the back door, top 10 guys that we always joke about. Cool. I mean, we gotta throw Rory into that conversation at least a little bit now.

That guy loves the back door, top 10, when he's not winning tournaments. He has his scoring average on Sundays and events. He's not really in contention And it's got to be absolutely one of the best of all time if he's if he's eight shots out of the lead He's gonna shoot 66 or 65 one Sunday. I mean, it's do you think there's like a free-willing thing where he's like Let's just go out here and bang it and just, make a whole bunch of birdies and new cares. And like, maybe when Rory's not thinking about it, it's the scariest call from the world.

Yeah, I just, I can't get my bearings on Rory right now. I've been so excited for his comeback. And, you know, the putting grip change, I think kind of ruffled some feathers and got a lot of people's attention. And he's actually quietly putted it very very well since making that switch It's a small sample size at this point, but it's his ball striking that's holding him back right now, and I wonder if I mean it's complete speculation obviously, but I wonder if like the change in putting has

shifted his focus from his ball striking or something like that But it means consistently one of the best ball strikers in the game and he just keeps making like Terrible terrible mistakes that are costing me. I don't know how many double bogies he made this weekend, but I still think I mean, I'm flaming hot take here. I think he's gonna be I'm ready for him to contend at Augusta. I mean, I think I felt I feel better about him this year to Gustav than I did last year when he was Number one player in the world and everyone's talking about the career slam. I mean I to Gustav and I did last year when he was number one player in the world and everyone's talking about the career slam. I mean, I don't know if I agree 100% just because we haven't seen him consistently play well in an event yet. And to me, it's like, you know, we've seen it.

And it was in somebody even said at this morning on Twitter, they said, I mean, you know, you look at the top six players in the world and worries the moment, the longest time between his last win and that was in November. I mean, it's not like it's been forever since season one, but, you know, speed obviously at the early season win. And another guy that's not been very consistent this season either, but, you know, day comes out last week and obviously, you know, wins with not as best stuff, which is kind of Jason Dayish. I mean, we talk about how talented Rory is and people always talk about, like, Rory's

the Ferrari and, you know, he's the the guy that when he's got his best stuff Nobody could beat him and I'm starting to wonder is Jason Day the same thing because I We it seemed for some reason it does seem that even in the top three top four conversation the big three big three four Whatever you want to call it Adam Scott's and there's will obviously this year But it does seem like days the one that gets the minimalist amount of fanfare for that, and he does have the talent that like, and we saw this last weekend, kid went with a big game,

and we haven't really seen a top player win like that in a long, long time, really, back to the one man that we won't speak of. Right. No, I think I wrote this, I forget a couple about maybe a month or so ago, I said, it just felt like his run at the end of last year felt like a long time ago, right?

And it really wasn't that many starts ago. And I just wrote, I said, I hope we just don't lose perspective on what he did at the end of last year. And you're right, it does just kind of seem forgotten at times, not forgotten. I mean, he's not like a sleeper by any means. I mean, everyone knows the name, but I feel like at six, was it five wins in his last 12 starts? Like in six wins in the last, you know, year and a half right? It's like that's that's that's not something like I could be wrong. Has Rory done that before?

Speed's not done that before. Like this is this is this is something, you know, the current players in the game we've never seen. I mean, yeah, Phil in his past, but I don't know. This feels very, very significant to me. And I agree, maybe it's just because he's Australian, he's not European or American, and most of the journalists are American and European, but that he's not getting the full full attention. But, man, just that gear that he pushes it into, it, I think question of who's game is, you know, who

wins if their A game is unanswerable at this point. And I think you and I made him talk about this last time we talked as I think I spoke well with John Swantack actually said, I'm ready to put speed in that category too. I mean, look at that A game he threw out at Kapalua this year. You don't look at that and say, oh, Rory or Jason's A-game beats that. These guys can have this, they all have this gear to get it to. I mean, honestly, I think Ricky's A-game is right on par with all those guys. We may not see it as much as we do with day or something like that, but man, it's just

such a, I keep saying it, but it's just such a good time to be a golf fan. And you know, to piggyback on the point you made, is it, is it weird that it's 2016 and it does seem like, depending on what region of the world you're from, that matters at how much we talk about you. You know, like, like, Matsuyama, who to you and I, I feel like we're like obsessed with this golf game and and know when a short game's clicking. Now I mean he's got a chance to win pretty much any tournament out there, but for some reason isn't thrown in that list of speeds and and fowlers and really lorries in there just because of what he's done. You know I mean in the sense of talking about it because I think when you hear people bring up the big guys in golf Speeds a first name that comes out of people's mouths and then the everyday sports fan that that occasionally talks about golf

Almost always goes to Ricky, you know because he's an American and he's known and people like him and all that stuff But you know you wonder just because days pretty unassuming, you know He's got his family. He does his own thing. He takes time off He seems to be have live a pretty regular life I mean he drives an RV around to golf tournaments, you know, you wonder if all of those things factor into this like weird perception of what time a player he is, even though we've seen like you said at the end of last year, we saw him go on a run that was pretty historic.

I mean, I do, you know, you think back to 14, Rory won the two majors and I think you want to firestone as well, he won like three tournaments in a row or three out of four and you know, that was obviously an impressive impressive run but I mean day did that you know almost on steroids and then I mean you're talking about a putt away from being in a playoff at the British Open as well so you know it's just funny and like you and I we joke and talk about names like Patrick Reader, Kepler or somebody like that all the time and again those are Americans. It's just funny that I wonder if that, I mean, I guess it plays into it.

I just think it's funny as he is global as a game is that that still could be an issue. Yeah, I think, and I like, I interested to get your take on this as whether this is a new thing or not, maybe within the last 10 years, but a lot of it's based on Q rating right now, right? I mean, like you said, Ricky is, his Q rating is off the charts right amongst amongst golfers and him being American probably has a lot to do with that But I'm guilty of it too though

I mean like if Hendrick Stenson's in the lead of a tournament and you know if I'm if I'm out of town or traveling and The likelihood of me streaming it that from my phone versus you know if Ricky if Ricky's in the lead or like down the stretch of the waste management is and it's much lower, I'm much much more likely to tune in if it's Ricky at the top and I don't know. I'm probably so I have a hard time criticizing anyone or, you know, even picking that apart because I'm probably as guilty as anyone on it. is anyone on it. I mean, and look at when golf went through its lowest of lows and not to knock these guys, but I mean, when Martin Kimer and Luke Donald Lee Westwood or pastor on the number one ranking and Patrick Harrington's winning majors, I mean, not the sexiest group of guys in the sense of curating, like you're saying. I mean, it was a time where Ty who was hurt, Phil wasn't doing a ton with his golf game

and we were kind of waiting for that next young start to emerge. you know we had a couple of people come out time and time again but nobody was really grabbing at that and it's a little bit like Adam Scott. I mean Adam Scott is everything you'd want in a champion golfer, right? I mean he's as nice as people can be. He's got an amazing golf swing. He hits it forever. He says all the right things, does all the right things. Obviously he's a handsome fella.

And when he gets to the podium, you're changing the channel. It's not necessarily quote unquote exciting stuff. You should have led with he's obviously a handsome guy, because that's what his aid building is right there. That's what he hangs out on, is exactly right. But I remember how excited we were last year going into the storylines going into the Masters and the, like, it's going to be the exact same this year except even bigger. Like Adam Scott winning twice going into this day who's obviously had a ton of success

there. Speed is average, finish is 1.5 and his two Masters starts. Have you made your pick for the Masters yet? Come, lean in so much you love us to you love it and i mean you know you look at some of the numbers and he hasn't had a lot of a ton of success in the sense of uh... consistent golf at a gust of but i mean obviously made the play against but but you know that's one of the issues with short so is you know

he's playing great golf and gets the win and he looked really really impressive down the stretch. But he has the lone solid finish at Augusta. And you wonder if, as I've written this a couple of times in my little master's previews, but I do think Augusta is probably the best example of a golf course. It's a horse for course golf course that I've ever seen. I mean, Jack was there, but, you know, not just Jack and Tiger and Phil and names like that. I mean, I look at like Jose Maria O'Fobl, or like Nick Fowl though, and these kind of, you know, Ben Crenshaw, these people that seem to play a gust of consistently well because they knew it. And so you wonder if the consistent play going

in, somebody like Steve, who as you mentioned, would finish second first, just gets the course. And when he gets there, like for a couple of things, click and you go, I'm at peace, or I'm at home, or uncomfortable, and they just have a good week because those feelings just all get to the top of their skin, and they're so excited and you look at Martin Kimer, obviously a world class player and a multi-major winner who never plays well like us.

And you just wonder why, and it's just obviously a course that might not set up for his eye. Yeah, but God, so funny, just slip that in, obviously multiple major winner, like that fits in so perfectly of what we were just talking about, about how like Ricky Fowler's curating and how much we talk about him and he's not one of major and climbers one, two and we just kind of brush him under the, granted he's not back that up well with consistency, so I could see where that comes from, but that it's just so funny to hear you just slide that slide that in multiple winner. But when was the last time you looked at the master's odds? How fresh are they in your mind? Um, I look at them when I get them emailed to me, you know, and I actually have the the mash play odds open in front of me.

You know, the Vegas odds are always interesting because they obviously point towards as you mentioned some names that people are going to want to throw money on that's why a name like tiger might still be 40 to one to win the masters you know but I was going to ask you know before we kind of dive all the way into the masters I just kind of wanted to hear it because I hadn't really seen exactly what you said on it what you think last week about all the people saying they couldn't believe Americans were skipping Arnold Palmer's man?

Yeah, I mean I shared an article that Bob Heragro for ESPN that just nailed it. I mean it's the way the setup the schedule has set up this year. The PGA tour did absolutely no favor, Starni. Right. It's a tough year because the Olympics, like the Canadian Open probably got screwed the most. It's the week between the British Open and PGA Championship and I'm just assuming nobody except for Mike Weir and Brantson had a curve. I have to do it. I'm contractually obliged to throw that in there.

We need to get you a beat button and you can do it like you cost every time you go after it. I need to add a dollar to the you a beat button and you can do it like you cuss every time you go after one. I need to add a dollar to the Mike Weir jar every time I mention it. But I mean, I think you and I talked about this offline, but it's like, what do you skip out of this group? And I don't have the schedule right in front of me, but it's like, Valspar, the name, I mean,

the tournament itself is not like the sexiest name, but players love that golf course. And it gets a pretty darn good field. You're not skipping the WGC the week before that. Honda Classic is one of the most challenging courses, one of the best fields of the year. Riviera has the week before that. Pebbles the week before that. Waste management is one of the most fun events of the year. Farmers Insurance Open at Torrey Pines is before that. And then after Bayhill you've got the match play, you can't really skip that unless you're Henry Stenson, and then you've got Houston if you want to start before the Masters, that's where you got to play, and then you're

the Masters. What do you skip out of that group? I totally agree. I had that event circle as the one a lot of those guys were going to skip too, it was just, it's no knock to no knock the Arnold Palmer that's what I thought was so weird that it seemed like people thought people were taken and like like they were like it was a personal like a assassination of Arnold Palmer's golf term and you're like listen this isn't they're these guys love Arnold Palmer I mean you know he's a legend it's like it's just because his name's on top of the tournament doesn't mean these guys have to be there you know I mean if you've got a skipping event here or there to make your schedule make sense and to be fresh for,

I mean, listen, the media's followed for making major so important. And that's why these guys do this. I mean, they have four big events a year, and if they win those, it is not only career to find them, but it seems like you get into a different national honor of who you are as a player. I mean, we mentioned Ricky Fowler. You know Ricky has played an incredible golf last year and a half and excuse me the last two years I mean he finishes in the top five in the majors a couple years ago and then he finally starts winning last year and the question still when you get a one of major and I think that's why you've got to make sure you're not only ready and prepared but you're refreshed. I mean look what Jason Jason Deges did coming in. He's really kind of prepared his schedule to be fresh.

You know, had it into a gust and to kind of a meat of the middle of the season tournament. So, you know, it's just, like you said, it's just kind of the schedule dictated the fact that a lot of guys had to make this a week off. But I mean, the bigger question for me is, I just don't get how you can sit in our shoes and get in that you and I, because I think we're on the same page here, but how you can sit back and criticize a player for the way that he schedules his tournaments.

Like, you have, the player has full autonomy as to what he wants to play and what he doesn't. It could, I mean, me personally, Bay Hill is not the most appealing golf course to me. It's not must see TV. And from a TV perspective, just the fact that it's Arnie's tournament doesn't add a ton to my viewing. The same way, like, I grew up watching, going to the Memorial, watching the Memorial. So it's different from, like, I guess, a sentimental perspective for me. But I wouldn't tune in,

if I wasn't from Dublin, Ohio, I wouldn't tune in to see Jack Nicholson the booth or tune in to watch, you know, because it's Jack's tournament. It's not, that doesn't add that much to a viewer's, I guess, enjoyment of the tournament. I would tune in to see Mirfield Village that golf course is bomb and I feel it is amazing and that tournament's always really, really well done. But I mean, something like, I don't know, I'm just not tuning in to what to see Arnie in the booth I don't know if that makes me a bad fan or I don't mean that in the disrespect to Arnie at all I gotta be very careful talking about Arnie because anything could be seen as a good insult but Yeah, I think it's just enough. It's a Again, you got you got a you got a circle something out if you're gonna call people out for not going to that tournament

You got you got to tell me which one they're supposed to skip Yeah, you know what's funny is I'm currently reading the chasing greatness book about Oakmont And and it's it's a it's a really interesting book just because it kind of talks about all the big events there and When Arnie was like in his young forties He was struggling with this game and he had his first season He'd never win I think the community like 73 or something. He didn't have a victory or 72. And he took an enormous amount of time off from the tour.

When back then, the tour had four or five names that if they didn't play those events, nobody cared. And he said, I gotta go back. I'm gonna go work with my dad. It was right before the US Open was going back to Oakmont. So I must have this, what, the 73, I must have been 160, but you know, it was, it was so interesting because like back then he takes all that time off and yeah, I mean the tour was probably affected from it since he wasn't there and Arnie was such a big drawing golf. But he had to do it because he had to go figure out what is wrong with his golf game.

Why he wasn't playing well, why was it wasn't hitting very well? And that's what has to happen in the same and these guys can't play every single week I mean, it's crazy and they're trying to listen speech trying to play every week I don't know why he's trying to but he's literally trying to play almost every tournament and I mean, you know It'll be interesting to see you know what speech scheme looks like if he kind of keeps this up I mean, I understand get you know, get the money when you can especially right now in the early season events But you know, I mean, you've got to take some breaks and I think that's why it just so happened to be this week And if they would have said this week is the and just had a blank on every tournament people would have still skipped it

They didn't skip it because it was it was had anything to do with the Arnold Palmer. Yeah, no, I think that again this year is screwy and I'm sure the Olympics had something to do with it but making the match play some point after the Masters, right? I mean, you have a long time between the Masters Masters in the US Open, there's over two months between. I know you have the players in there but you just can't you can't try to squeeze all that into before the Masters and if any, yeah, I mean, if anything, I think, I figured if you and I had talked about it, this was the year they could have got away with moving the PGA championship into February or something.

Right, I love that. Yeah, that was, I love that idea. I mean, so after the Masters, it goes heritage. Texas open, Zurich, Wells Harlow. So really, if you threw match play in that Valero, so this is what you could have done, I guess, is throw match play in that Valero Texas open day. And then you keep all the people in Texas because they'd be in San Antonio and then they'd be going to the Shells. So you have the Texas open there the week before the Shell. And then you could at least give people a week off after the Masters and two weeks before Wells Fargo.

Because a lot of people are going to play there obviously and then, you know, then you get into the players in NAC and T. And then, I mean, my guess is after the players, before the USO, so after the players, there's four events before the USO Open, I bet you see the big boys play just Memorial and that's it. I don't think they'll play, I don't think a lot of the guys will play Byron Nelson, I don't think of it. Whatever the colonial is called now, the Dean and Deluca, then you got the moral, then you got FedEx. I would say you'll see that'll be their big break, because they know after that,

that's when the three majors happen at 45 days, then they're the Olympics. Yeah, you have to, I mean, the big guys are gonna skip. I think Speed still goes, is he going to RBC again this year? There's no way, foreign around. You can't, I mean, you just can't, you just can't do it.

I would be surprised. What happened last year. I mean, you just can't. You just can't do it. I would be surprised. What happened last year, I think, is he committed to it before we won the match. Right. So we have to go. Yeah. My guess is he probably hasn't committed to it this year. Right.

Yeah, and I think you have to commit by Friday the week before, though, right? Right. And so I'd be shocked if he played that this year. It doesn't. It does not make sense. But pivoting, backing up real quick to what you said though, anybody out there thinking like, oh, it's just golfers, they can't do that.

They, about playing week after week after week, shut up, like it's, fatigue is a very real thing. Your golf game suffers on it. Absolutely. I got, I got, I got, 18-holes five, five, six days a week. I mean, that's, 18-holes walking and you're waiting. I mean, that's the thing too, it's like practice. Real those aren't fast. These guys are on practice where those playin'

in two and a half hours. They're out there for six hours, you know, and they're playin' a pro-AM. And, um, it's, I mean, that's, that's exhaust. I mean, you're at the golf course for 10, 12 hours, if you've got to do a press conference and stuff. I mean, it's not like you dip in and dip out for four holes. Yeah, no, I talked about that with Max Homa, and somebody, somebody replied and said, everyone gets tired of their jobs. I'm sick of you talking about to golfers and like, all right, whatever man. But pivoting off this, are you worried about speed at this point?

No, no, I'm not worried about it. I'm intrigued to see what happens when he does get it back clicking again, because he obviously has his games not clicking, and I think we can see that. But, you know, we all still look at these players that are great, and we expect them to be great every week, and that's the biggest misconception, and the biggest wrong doing we can do to any really good player because The era now, but not not I mean we're not talking about Tiger right now We're simply talking about the players in this era compared to the players in

2000 2001 2002 2003 and I mean I'm not sure anybody would argue that those guys were better. I mean, I think that the talent right now is Is so deep that a bad week now is a tie for 40 if they're a miscut. It's not a tie for 11. If you don't hit it great and don't make putts, they're going to be 20, 25 guys that do that week. And that's why we see every week, we see random guys near the top of the leaderboard as well. I mean, while maybe day wins, you see four, five names up there that might miss the next three cuts, but they just had a good week. So, you know, it's hard for me to sit there and go, what's going on with Speed-Scame? It's more, when is it, when he's going to get out of the

funk a little bit, because, you know, it has, it has been what, two months since why? Yeah, no, yeah. I'm not concerned either. I was just looking at what he did running off. I think you and I talked about this too, where you're saying, I went and looked up his stretch from last year. I'm like, well, let's look at what he did a month before the master's last year. Couldn't have been that good. And I was like, oh, okay, he was like first, second, second, first leading up for whatever into the matter. I was like, okay, maybe that point is not the best point to make. But I'm not concerned about the right word. I just look at him and Rory. It doesn't, day to day, there's no telling,

there's no idea what to expect at this point. They're very up and down. You see some of the worst rounds I've seen speed play. And again, it's not like something, easily fixed like putting. It's like a big, horrible ball striking round, hitting the ball in terrible, terrible places. And if you're not controlling your misses in time for a gust, you just can't win there. You can't get away with your misses there. So, concerned in the right word, I'd like

to see him play well going into the masters, but even if he's still my, I'm sticking with my pick, he's been my pick from the preseason, I expect him to go back to back at the Masters, but I'd like to at least see something before we step foot in the Gustav. Well, that, and agreed, and that's again, you know, this is why I think the match play is smart for all these guys to throw in. You know, while we talked about it, if it was a couple of weeks after, the good thing about the match play is, even if you don't have your best stuff, you could win a match or two, which would be awesome and it would be good for your confidence. And if you lose the first match, you just chalk it up to, I got to beat that day, and then

you were only an internament for a day, and now you can go work on some stuff and get ready for another stroke play event. You know, I think it's a smart time now for speed to go out there and, you know, I mean, play Uber Aggressive or do something a little bit different because I just think this event is so, so unique, not just because it's match play because you can do stuff differently, you can play golf courses differently and you can really approach the round a little bit different and it doesn't hurt the way you do the things because all you've got to do is beat the guy in front of you.

Also, I mean the match play really is like on paper one of the best events, right? I mean, it's a lot of fun to watch because you do get so many big names playing each other and it really goes on throughout the week. So if you're a work, you can just, you know, throw a PGA to rely on, see that plug. And, you know, you can pay attention if Speedplace Valor or Speedplace Justin Thomas. You know, that's something fun for golf fans to see because you really do get that Sunday feel for like five straight days. I, me, I like the old format.

I like the one and done, the way it currently works now. It's still kind of one and done, but it's more like a death march after you lose your first match. I forget what the stat is, but like there's your chances of coming out of the group if you lose your first match or just minimal. Which from that perspective, it makes sense to keep speed around for a couple more rounds if he loses that first match. But it's the same as the NCAA tournament. It's like the first couple rounds are the most exciting. Those first few days of the match play were the best.

You get guys from all over the board playing and you get to each other. And usually by the end, you get tired out. And I find myself rarely end up watching the final few matches, right? Because it's a lot of commercials. It's very slow in between shots. And there's only two or four golfers on the golf course

It's just it's hard to make an entertaining broadcast, but It's in my head it always seems like a great tournament. I'm a pump for the match play But by the end of it like by after on the day five of match play I've and chain unless it's somebody I'm really interested in the final I've kind of burnt out on it by that point But it's the same as in CIA tournaments. I mean it's somebody I'm really interested in the final. I've kind of burnt out on it by that point But it's the same as in C.A. Tournament. I mean, that's Did they purposely made it during March madness this year? I don't know. That's a good question I one of my ideas this week

I really want to go up to some of the guys that are a little bit open the chat and Do some videos and have them after the the bracket comes out. I want to see which team they would compare themselves to. So is is is is is is speak North Carolina or does he feel since he hasn't been playing great maybe he's a little sneakier you know maybe he's maybe that that foresee that people could see make the final four or is you know maybe somebody down the list maybe you burnt the spurt or something. I mean, does he pay attention to it? But is does he feel like he's a Syracuse type

who got in and now he can make them run? I would just be interested to see if they even pay it. I mean, I think these guys pay attention to the tournament. I know Speed put his bracket out there, but. Finally, it is. He also had my mountain deers in the final four. So he also had my mountain deers the final four so he also had my mountain beers in the final four. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, in a loss of the first round? Yeah, that's what I meant to say that at the very beginning when we came on we were about us drowning our tears with, or distracting ourselves with a golf podcast

because our college basketball seasons are over. But I don't get to watch college basketball anymore at all. So my heart was, I did get to watch some of that game, but my again, life goes on. But no, I think, did you, you see the third broadcasting two hours worth of the selection show this year? We're getting closer. We're getting closer. I don't know if you remember I had a post like a couple years ago about how infinitely more exciting the

match play would be if like the in some sort of fashion the players got to choose their opponents, right? So like the bottom half of the bracket, like the numbers 33 through 64, get put up on the board and spread out evenly as if like the same way they would in NCAA tournament, like a 16 seed, et cetera. But the top like 32 guys, it'll be like a blind bidding,

think like Jeopardy or something, like if you're ready to put your name up and like choose your opponent, you get to bid. And it goes in like a priority system, right? like if you're ready to put your name up and like choose your opponent you get to bid and it goes in like a priority system right so if you're number one player and you and you want to pick your opponent you press the button and you get to go and you take your name plate and you go up and you you hand it to your opponent right so if you even pulters 64-seed which you almost was like and spieth wants a rider cut preview to beat him like he gets to walk up to

polter and say, I challenge you to a duel and put it on TV with fans cheering and get the players boozing and you can't tell me that wouldn't add a lot of intrigue to this event. My only fear is I think that might get better ratings and some of the early coverage. That would be amazing. I think everybody would watch that. Right. You can get a friend in the audience like, you know, they speak thick Jamie Donaldson first and his Donaldson's friends are booing and throwing stuff on the island. This is a great idea. I love this. I am 100% in. I also think you could carry this over and on the tour

championship, you know, we keep wanting the tour championship to be match play. You get to do that as well. The first 15 guys that picked their 15th opponent, you know, the other 15 guys that are opponent in the first, in the first round of the match play tour championship, which, again, how fun would it be to watch the tour championship these guys play for $10 million bucks? I mean, they get nervous for sure. I mean, wouldn't they?

We talked about this. I think of like, you can handicap it, right? And you can, whatever the top eight seeds get double buys or whatever and having it end like on a Wednesday night, it ends during the middle football season as it is, right? So I have the final, be $10 million showdown. If you end up with Ricky Fowler versus Rory for $10 million bucks, like on a Wednesday night, people are gonna tune into that and watch that more than they would on a Sunday a

stroke play event but let's stay on on topic here because I'm not dark my jokes. Can you imagine how many binders bones would have to bring into the event like the numbers that Phil would have behind all of his potential opponents. He would be soaring, soaring, uh, what's his weakness? He had four pages on his short game. It was just everybody's been thoroughly vetted throughout the whole process. I'm telling you man, this would be amazing. This would be absolutely amazing. But uh...

Bones would have to take a couple of weeks off before. He'd have to have like an inner own caddy and just so Bones could be like, listen man, I can't wait too much homework. Homework to knock out on this. Keegan if he somehow makes it in would be unable to like make a decision and to keep hesitating and back it off. He's just talking. He walks up to the mic and backs off.

That's right. Jordan's speed is like, I just want to say this isn't like a formal challenge. I really respect Jamie Donaldson and I think he's that's right. Jordan Speeth is like, I just want to say, this isn't like a formal challenge. I really respect Jamie Donaldson, and I think he's a great player, but I think I like the way this bracket plays out and he would be so political about it. I love Scott Pierci, great guy, great player. I feel like I could win eight, seven,

so I want to take Pierci. I just got Pierci to get in this field. You know what? I still say this. Pierci had've got piercied in this field. He would, you know what? I still say this. Pierci had one of the best final rounds last year. I watched all year. It was whatever tournament he won that went. It was like how the event this week's going against the WGC.

He shot like a final round 65 or something. And it was like the most pure round of all time. I was like, all right, there you go. I mean, I know it's the B level event, but that was pretty impressive. He won a tournament last year Let me make sure I'm not mad I'm out of dream about Scott pierce You never know I don't think he won a golf tournament last year He won the Barbersold Championship

Three strokes ever will cost when will cost made that like 90 footer on the 18th hole to pretty much secure his card for this year Okay, I will I won't good I see it now, you're right, you're right. I had no idea, I was still, I was bearing my, that was the opposite week of the Open Championship where I was drinking my, drowning my sorrows and whiskey with Zach Johnson's win. So, I know people, I was there and I saw it. I still have to like go on Wikipedia and verify it when people say that Mark Leishman was in the playoff of the open championship last year like I refuse to believe that was actually a thing that happened. And the best story by far was Leishman wedding. I mean, yeah, it was funny, it was like, everybody was like, who is this guy? And I'm like, it'll be like, make you cry in your computer level stuff if you win, where this whole story about, you know, his wife was close to pass it away, and she made it through,

and then she told it, and he said, you know, I don't take office seriously anymore, I just want to be happy with my family, and it was all the same year. It would have been crazy and everybody just kind of glossed over that and they were like, well you know who's he could win to it? Or is that Johnson could join that elite Augustus St. Andrews group? And yeah, I think I think I think Lee's been like bogey the first two holes or something that was completely out of it. But I'm still sad I think that might have been the most depressing playoff in the sense of how much trauma there was leaving up to it. And then what it kind of turned into, we were all, we had this feat in Jason Day thing all happened

and all at the same time. And then you're like, wait, who's in the playoff? What three guys? I don't even know if I watched it all the way at the end. I was like, I think, I was obviously rooting for, I'm sorry, sorry, Mr. Leachman if you're listening but I was rooting for Uzzi. That anybody was EJ at that point but yeah to have day and speed miss it by one shot like that could if that was a five way

playoff imagine that for my history standpoint. Andrews three and and I have to play on they have to play what three holes four holes three holes and it's like or four holes I guess in your life. This is Four holes with five guys and it's and nobody gets knocked out because it's not Would have been and but they have to they play all five at the same time they have to right? Yeah, they have to I think yeah When they have the six-man playoff the Northern Trust like in 2001 they all played at the same time so

Yeah, I think you have you they don't have a choice They all played at the same time. So, yeah, I think you have, you don't have a choice. You don't have a three-semin or two-semin to play off? My favorite part of that was Ivo Rubson rolling out of the jigger in, just had to have been eight pints deep to have to call that playoff. He thought he was retired, he thought he was done.

He's walking off, he's shaking hands, people are hugging him and they're like, hey, listen, we need you back for like three minutes really quick. Sorry about that I got a great story of We were I got to play St. Andrews about a week after the open and My buddy and like we're coming around he beat me on the first day We got to play San Andreas twice he beat me the first day and he was let me hear it a lot a lot and beat me the first day and he was let me hear it a lot, a lot. And he were playing this evening time and there's these dudes,

just like a group of 15 guys, if a jigger in, just hammering it up, just pounding pints, and he hits it into the roadhole bunker, right? And he goes in there, and I'm filming it, I have my GoPro out, and I'm filming him. It takes him four shots to get out of the roadhole bunker, and he makes in there and I'm filming it. I'm like go pro out and I'm filming him. It takes him four shots to get out of the road whole bunker and he makes a 10. And like, he was furious, absolutely furious.

And so he goes up to the next, it goes up to the 18T and takes the box from me. He steals the box, steals the honor and tees off in front of me. And these dudes start rolling out onto the course, and they just start yelling out. I'm like, what are you doing? We saw you, you're still in that bunker. You're still in the road all bunker.

What? It's what makes that place so cool. Oh, God, it's so awesome. Those people can, I mean, there's no place in the world. Maybe I'm wrong, but is there a place in the world that when an amateur makes like an eight footer on the 18th green at any given time, there's like 20 people to clap? Yeah, the fan, well, the only problem I had about it is the sight lines were terrible.

Like the layout of that course is just not meant for a fan attendant, unless you're in a bleacher, you just, you couldn't see what was going on and the routing is all around the outside of the Course you can barely cut through the inside of the course So I had a hard time seeing anything so people just post up on individual holes and just go nuts when every single player comes through because they're just So excited to see golfers and that they they had to work probably pretty hard to get those seats But it's not the I again, I'm spoiled by having gone to the memorial every year and that course is a little bit built like an amphitheater around every hole and every T shot But yeah, it's not the not the best for sight lines It was a all-man that town and that that whole I had I did all for if you're listening for the first time

Did a whole podcast on on our trip to St Andrews our golf trip, which is both as a viewer and as a game to play it You can you absolutely cannot beat that. You can speak to that you live you used to live there. Yeah I mean that you know when you look back at life I always laugh you know when I talk to my dad and he tells most of the things he talks about is just basically stories from like 25 years ago you know, and you know, you make like this completely ridiculous decision when you're 21 years old, when your friends like, let's go to St. Andrews for the summer, and I'm like, okay, whatever, sure, that sounds fun. And then you look back on it and you're like, damn, that was a good decision. I'm really, really, really glad we did that back when we had no reason not to, you know, because it's like, it's like you, I mean, what I love

about you living in Europe right now, and you know, because it's like it's like you I mean what I love about you living in Europe right now and you know I follow your snapchat and Instagram and all that stuff is you know You're one of those people I think that has just been like I have this cool opportunity I have this ability to travel when I can and what when I get free weekends and you just do it Now I think there's so many people that don't do that, you know They just want to sell me a cow's orill and relax between times and I feel like it's, do it when you can and I went over there and got a caddy job and it was like, we'd caddy four days a week and do two loops and that would make our money doing that. But then we'd go play golf. I mean because

you know, we're golfers. It's hard. I mean, we'd go play little courses around the area, like London links or Lady Banks or really any place that would really have us. And, you know, we slam four sets of clubs and four people in a car that probably was fit for two people and just made it happen. So, it's the coolest city in the world in my opinion. And I really, I'm not sure if I'll ever find a place I like better. Yeah. No, I think what, honestly what you said, like the whole no laying up mantra or whatever that applies to golf, like applying that to life is also a very, I think a very good way to live your life.

Like like you said, whenever somebody, one of my friends comes up with a travel plan for a random place, like I just go with it. I just do it, right? And I figure out the work part later and I probably gave me a lot of attention in just do right. And I figured out the work part later and I probably gaining a lot of attention in my office for how much I travel like on the weekends and sometimes cutting out early on a Friday. But I don't know, you just kind of go for it and figure it out and

yeah, it's been the experience of a lifetime living over here and just getting way out of your comfort zone and doing random things and just ending up in back roads of Bosnia trying to find some random waterfalls and stuff. You can learn a lot about yourself in those scenarios. But, we, I mean, we, you know, we, when I lived over there, we do the, I mean, I went to, what, what I always felt the funniest, I mean, and I'm not sure if you've done this, I think you have, because I think I've seen a couple of trips you've done, but I went on a couple of trips just by myself without my buddies because they like head stuff planned or whatever. And man, you can have a hell of a time in a random city in Europe, you know, especially if you're open to talking to people and doing stuff. I mean, I went to

Devlin one time and at some point I was at some big set in or whatever, big nine rugby match, with some guys that gave me an extra ticket. And I'm like, you know, I mean, these are kind of things that, you know, when you're 75 years old, you can look back at those goofy pictures and laugh your head off. But yeah, it's, Europe is so cool. Why are these, why do these young Americans, why do these guys not go over there and play in this thing?

Well, I got a mail back question, somebody asked me about Peter, you line, like, does he, why does he not play in the United States? I'm like, why would he? I he? He's doing really well over there. 80s in Europe and it's awesome. Yeah, no, it is just different. Like you said, doing solo travel and whatnot. You meet people so easily.

I don't travel solo in the US ever, but I very rarely travel solo here, actually. But I never feel like, I don't know, I did a tour in Belgium. I actually did a band of brothers tour, a bunch of like old war, about two battle scenes and whatnot in the best tone in Belgium. And I went down there by myself

because I couldn't convince him my friends to do this really nerdy tour or whatever. And I was like, I had no fear that I was gonna like end up having dinner by myself. And sure enough, I got met a bunch of people in the tour. We went out around best tone and whatnot. It was awesome. I mean, yeah, we're way off the golf topic now Anyone is listening this far is just trying to kill time anyways, so I don't feel bad

So I was gonna say we talked about the podcast earlier if you look up on iTunes It's called the clubhouse was yeah, I'm ready to ask you about this I was wondering if you're going to start talking about it. So I can still the name of it from one of the shows when I worked for back nine. And I messaged both the guys that were on it just to make sure they were cool with it. Because to me, the Clubhouse is kind of the best part of the

golfing experience in my opinion, because either before or after, when you get to a course or you come out after, I mean, you have it up here and you're recapping the round, then you're adding up and you're passing around money or you're doing watching whatever games on the TV. It's to me, I want to make it feel kind of relaxed and chill like that as well. But yeah, I mean, it's basically the idea is to have

some guests on and to ask them not only about golf, but just kind of about their way to get in the game, their way to make it professionally if they play. I think there's so many stories like that, and on top of that, there's so many stories of guys that got to the mountain and couldn't make it. And I'd love to get some people like that on there as well. I mean, it's harder for them to talk about it, sure.

But that's the reality. It's like, we sit there and look at Jordan's feet in Ricky Fowler and anybody. I mean, think of Crank Perry. I mean, think of any's that's made it on tour and made it for a number of years and there's That's a great story, but you know, there's guys that missed out on Q's school by a shot four years in a row You know, and I think that's for golf fans. That's kind of cool as well So I mean, that's really it. I'm just trying to I want to do a podcast podcast for a while and Fox kind of held me out with getting it all together and stuff like that. So the previews up, if you go subscribe to it, it's on all the podcast channels too. So if

you look up Clubhouse or Shane Bacon or something, it'll be on there. But I chatted with my dad for three or four minutes just about how I got into the game and kind of how you got in the game when he was a kid just because I'd really never asked him that question before. So it was an interesting little dive into kind of how I started out in golf and then that was kind of why I wanted to make it kind of my first little preview piece and then hopefully we're jumping into our first big yes this week. Great, now I'm looking forward to it, but I'm definitely interested to our, I, basically what you just said, one of my favorite podcasts I've done not that wasn't with you of course was

The last one with Max Homa who is you know I love it. It was great. I mean just if you get a guy that's open like open to talk And I think he's a guy that I would say I'm not gonna say a struggling tour pro He's a young guy and he just lost his pga tour card now. He's playing on the web com tour But these guys are very, I think realistic, I guess is the right word or realists, right? I mean, like I told him before we went on, I'm like, I'm gonna ask you questions

about what's different between the PGA Tour and Web.com. I hope you know I have utmost respect for the grind on. He's like, no, totally, I understand. And he just, he understands the difference between him and the next level guy, right? And it's not like, you don't feel bad for himself. He loves his life and he enjoys the career he has. But some of those guys have the best stories, right? And the best way to talk about it, and they're not like maybe as guarded as a Jordan

spieth would be like in an interview or a podcast or something like that. So it's fun to just to talk to guys that aren't at the top, top level of the game. It certainly can be there, but I mean, there's just for every Jordan's piece, there's a thousand guys at that next level that just can't bust through. So, no, I'm honestly some of the best podcasts and some of the best things I listen to aren't going to be with the top guys, right? Because those are the guys that are coached the best on how to talk to the media. So, well, I know you're going to get J. Cole's run pretty soon.

So, oh my God. That'll be something. But, yeah, it's, you know, what I find funny is, so like I did mini-torque golf now like 10 years ago, I guess, maybe nine years ago, something like that. And, you know, the guys that were dominating then that didn't make it, you know, I saw one not too long ago and he lives in Ohio and he's selling insurance. I mean this guy was so good.

So good. So good. I mean he shoots 66 every time you play with him. And it just wasn't in the cards. He could mentally do it when he had to. It wasn't the right year or they changed to a school on them or, you know, any of those reasons, it's just, it's crazy because, you know, what I always find funny is when you look at the junior golf scene, it always seems like there's about five

names and I almost find it rare when somebody like Jordan Speed goes on to be great on the PGA tour because, you know, when I played Junior Golf and like age AGA golf Those guys none of those guys have made it. They were like dominating that circuit when I was around. Yeah No, I mean, I just look like same exact way I look at the guys that you know would shoot 64 in high school matches and then like Flunk out of their college teams. It's the level. Yeah, it's impossible to properly describe But run a little bit at a time I was two more things I want to ask you about you've done one event so far with PJ tour lives that correct?

Yeah, I did the northern trust and I'll do this week with match play talk How is that first experience that you was it a pretty much how you expected it to be is it? Is it all is it all it's live up to be you know know, to be a live TV on Air Broadcaster? I know you did the US Open online last year as well. How is that different from what you're doing with PJ Tour Live and how have you liked it so far? I mean, it's different because, you know, when I did the US Open, I did featured holes, which you get now, you know, the staple in that is that you have the same hole all day. So you know where guys are missing putts most of the time.

You know, you have stats on laying up and going for it and all that stuff. And you know, what's the proximity to the whole average stuff like that? And that's where you get your knowledge from. I mean, it's not about the player. My favorite thing about the featured groups is you're following these guys for 18 holes. I mean, you're locked in on how they're playing. So I mean, you really get these guys for 18 holes. I mean, you're locked in on how they're playing.

So, I mean, you really get a feel for it. And you can really say, you know, he's sitting eight ironed here from 175. And you know, he hit eight iron from 175 on four, and he flew the green. So, it's like, those are the cool things I like about it. And I mean, honestly, I just love being a part of something that I think I was hoping would be around, you know,

years ago. I just, I love would be around, you know, years ago. I just, I love the fact that, you know, golf is the most unique sport to broadcast in the entire world. And it's the hardest sport to broadcast the entire world because in football you've got one field. And that's why you've got one court. And tennis, you know, there might be a lot of matches happening on different courts, but those cameras are fixed there and they don't need to move.

They don't need, that thing needs to really happen. And I think, you know, with golf, there's guys on every hole, you know, teeing off at different times after the morning and as a fan, if you're a Jordan's speed, die-hard fan, you couldn't watch them in the morning when he played his first round. He isn't, you know, before the last couple of years, ever. I mean, that was just not even an option. So I think, you know, just being a part of something that I think is kind of revolutionizing the way fans can consume golf, and especially the golfers they like, is such a good thing for golf, you know. And I mean, you know, I apologize that you have to revive always during it, but you know,

I just think it's such a good idea about the PJ tour and I just hope it continues. I hope it gets bigger and bigger, and I hope that they add more time and more groups and you can, you know, I hope in 10 years there's every morning group you could click on and at least watch it. I mean, it might not be audio to it, but I just, to me, it's it's allowing golf to be a little bit more, you know, revolutionary in the sense of technology because, you know, we have the options to do it now. And I think the PJ Tours are really kind of grasped that well. Yeah, and what I love about it is how much respect the announcers and the broadcast team has for the viewer, right?

It's not, you're not spoon feeding like all the narrative stuff that you find on like the Sunday afternoon broadcast. They know it's the hardcore fans that are tuning in, they don't need, you know, the same stick and they don't need to, you know, have the gym dance, hush tones and what not. They just tell it like it is. And it's a much better look into what a normal PGA tour round of golf is like. So I've been, I don't give credit out very easily.

And I've been very high praise of PGA tour lives. Oh, it's just, it's the best. I mean, literally I, my Thursdays and Fridays with how I work and do my days are completely different now just because of it. I literally wake up in the morning, I come to my desk, I put my iPad up with PJ Tour Live on, and this is like I don't go to a coffee shop, I don't go to my living room and watch anything on TV. I mean this is where I go because I know for four or five hours I'll be able to watch the biggest names in the tournament, you know, play their round.

And if you watch that, you know, play their round. And you, if you watch that, you know better about what went on. I mean, you know, if speed, you know, maybe speed hits nine out of 18 greens, but what if five of them hit, they were on the front end? You know, you know, the little intricacies of his round better than somebody that's just looking at a card. Plus, I mean, you know, I mean, we want to watch golf. I mean, that's what fans want.

And that's what, I mean, I'm a'm a golf fan I mean I want to watch it. Right alright I'll get you out on this and you know we can't do a full podcast without even really talking about the Ryder Cup. What is the one player we always mention on the podcast that we haven't mentioned this? Vaughn Taylor and he won a tournament. What? We not talked about it. We did it in the town and we not have a podcast about this.

I believe you. Yeah, it's on me. It's on me. I haven't done shit for a month. I want a blonde Taylor avatar for 24 hours. Wait, we should just do this now. What is our actual master's bet going to be? Who's our bet?

Because I'll write it down.'s bet going to be? Well you made up all right, so I've been drinking when you proposed this to me on Twitter It was I had more people tell me that they love that Twitter Exchange that I've had people talk about I can have a conversation with Rory Macroly on Twitter and people be like that was funnier. I love that so You've been drinking and you wanted to keep taking Tiger for some reason, I think. No, I kept taking you said, like you said something like, I'll give you anybody but Rory and whatever. I give me somebody. I'm like, and I took Rory because I didn't read your tweet.

So, okay, so I have, let's just, let me, I'll find this here. I'll find this. And this is the very end ends. I don't feel bad holding people up. Yes Sorry if you guys are still here. It's your fault. It's really your fault It's not fuckers. Yeah, this is this is on you. This is on you. I'm searching for any times. I've mentioned you Which might you take him are you taking Montaillard or not? Oh god He's in the field this year isn't it's a writer cup year. How could you not take him? Oh, he's gonna what if he what if he what if he finishes like night that the masters and gets on this writer cup year. How could you not take him? He's gonna, what if he, what if he, what if he finishes like ninth at the masters and gets on this writer cup team, it's gonna be the best?

All right, here it is. You said, if I was handicapping the masters field right now, this second, my favorites. This was on February 27th, you said, Bubba, Fowler, Usthason, Jordan, Scott, Phil. And I said, oh, God, that's a stroke. That dude that has been beaten by one guy total in his two master's appearances is fourth.

So I was talking about speed. Like how do you have speed fourth? And you said, I'll take the top three and you take speed for our bet. So you would take Bubba Fowler, Ustazen. And that's it. So I thought you were saying, I'll take him to finish top three, or I'll take him to not finish top three. So I said, why are you baiting me into this one, but

give me top three and a half and I'll take it. You said I'm confused, but it's late and I have to do it. So I kind of get it. Yeah, I miss reddit blah blah blah. And then you said, all right, no, wait, happens to the best of us. I'll take bubs Louis and Ricky You can have speed and two guys not name Rory I said speed Rory day is team in We have to do a draft on this. All right, so you get speed day and a rowdy cheese? No, that's what you specifically said you don't get rowdy. So I can't get up. This is not fair.

So you can have some, I mean, speed the day is pretty good. So who's your third pick? So who's on your team then? It's Boba Baller and he was stasing. Oh god. Oh, wow, this should be more pay for this. Boba Baller and he was stasing. OK. I get speed day and not rowdy. I'll take out him Scott. I was going to say it's right there Oh, well, this should be more pay for this. Bubba Fowler, it was Tason, okay.

I get Speed Day and not Rory, I'll take out him Scott. I was gonna say, it's right there in front of you. That's a good one. That's a fairly okay. The outliers probably use the, or Fowler. Bubba's done really well here at Speed Day, Scott obviously have. So, I mean, I don't think it's that. I mean, I think you might be the favorite by little.

But, I have like three of the top four guys in the odd sheet. I'm feeling pretty damn good about it. Yeah, that's pretty good. That's okay. What other stakes that was like money earned? Or is it total strokes under par? Or what are you gonna do? We could be money earned.

That seems like an easy way to do it. All right, money earned as an avatar bet or is it something better than that? Let's think on it. Ask the people out there. Ask the thousands of people still listening. If you have made it this far, you get to choose. If you heard this part of the podcast, just send it to us and we'll do whatever that is.

What's our first suggestion? First person to say it, we will make that the best. That's a great point. That's the best. Whatever you also say, I mean as long as it's not like commit murder or like jump off of something really high, whatever it is, I mean we're not going to get tattoos, but make it make it something we'll do. Yeah, make it fun. Make it fun. Yeah. We'll look a little consideration into what this is actually we've done. Exactly. We love it. We've done some avatars things. They've been pretty fun. So we're in on whatever you decide. Cool. Exactly. We love it. We've done some avatars. Things that's been pretty fun. So we're in. We're in on whatever you decide. Cool. Alright. Mr. Bacon, good luck with the podcast. Thank you again for

your time. I will throw a link to your podcast page in this post as well. And yeah, enjoy the match play this week and we will see you on PGA Tour Live. Cool. Thanks buddy. Any time for shooting. Alright, take care man. It's been a great club. Be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most.

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