No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 325: Travelers Recap

Episode Date: June 29, 2020

DJ wins, Streelman makes a run, Phil has some moments, and the TPC doesn't bite back too hard. We discuss the course setup, DJ's drive on 18, the COVID "outbreak," how the tour moves forward, Daniel S...ummerhays' run at the Utah Championship, segments, and a whole lot more. We also react live on the air to the shocking news that NBC will be taking over the USGA contract from Fox, effective this fall (1:05:45).  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most. He's coming down off that Daniel Summer haze playoff. There was a lot of golf played today, DJ Pies here. Just coming down off of the pizza that Tronor was great. I don't have pizza in weeks. Don't you dare shut out the brand on that.
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Starting point is 00:01:47 Do I say it wrong? You always say farther. Yeah, I'm not going to correct it. It's a very literary difference. Yeah. Well, there you have it. Thank you to Nick for calling in. You can learn more about the ChromeSoft and the ChromeSoft X
Starting point is 00:01:57 at calwaygolf.com slash ChromeSoft. That's calwaygolf.com slash ChromeSoft. It's also Midwestern, I think, just to say further, instead of farther. Yeah. What are you saying? You saying midwestern? You just don't know it proper English?
Starting point is 00:02:11 No, I just think it falls under local dialects. I just think it's interesting. Yeah, I think Randy, you identify more as a Mary Monterey than a midwestern. Yeah, not always go to private school. Yeah, you, Brady. I have a product of the public school system. You learn the Queen's English and all that in Marymont. Speaking of the public school system, I was going
Starting point is 00:02:29 to say that the story of the day I was ready to lead with Daniel Somerhez. Since he lost the playoff, I think he's getting bumped down the agenda, but we're going to get there trying to worry about it. All right. Let's start with the traveler championship. Dustin Johnson, his 21st win. Is that correct? On the PJ tour? Sounds about right. 13 seasons in a row. 13 seasons in a row. Shout out to the wraparound schedule, which is really brief to marry into that stat.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Complete crowning of the implementation of the wraparound schedule. You've been saying everything is a crowning today. You want to keep going? Show we go into it? Go for it. Well, let's start with the wraparound schedule. That statistic everybody loves to say is only possible because of the wrap round schedule He was crowned early in the week when my pick to win Brooks Capco with drew out of an abundance of caution
Starting point is 00:03:12 And web and excess The best in the world. Yes. He got crowned by Michelson 71s on the weekend. He got crowned by Brendan Todd You know Dutch blowing himself and he got crowned by Brendan Todd, you know, Dutch boying himself. And he got crowned by Kevin Strylman, who couldn't find a birdie down the stretch. And he got crowned by the strip of Ruff on the 15th hole, which we're gonna get to. I didn't know I would have,
Starting point is 00:03:35 that I wouldn't be the one to bring that up. No, thank you so much, dude. Listen, when you're in the trenches, we're all in the trenches. That was pretty wild to watch that. Like, can we just dive right into that? Let's start there. Sure.
Starting point is 00:03:44 What were you fired up about and how did that progress? So I watched a lot of golf this week. I watched a lot of PJ Tour live, which is obviously a lot more depth of the golf course than they showed just on broadcast TV. And I watched a very soft and benign golf course that watching the top guys just pound driver very frequently hit a lot of wedges and saw almost no bite to the golf course. And I just thought to myself, I was like, what a waste of a collection of talent to not make these guys earn it with real challenging shots with bite, with edge to them.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Like 15 just seemed to me, and I know there's some variance, and I know like 13% of balls go in that water, whatever. But it's like this whole is 260 to the front. So what reasoning would there be to have a ball that goes left of that green get stopped randomly? Like a random stop by a foot of rough? It was, to me, was like, I would love to see it actually be exciting coming down the stretch
Starting point is 00:04:37 to maybe watch a guy go for it. If some guys lay up, it's more exciting when, you know, with the tournament on the line, somebody goes for it. If DJ would have gone for it today with the lead, if there was an actual decision there, that would have been dramatic. That would have been interesting to watch. Well, like asking the best players in the world to have to strategize around a severe challenge
Starting point is 00:04:55 on that left side, I think, is should be like required of these tournaments. And I want to preemptively apologize because I massively, quickly unsubscribed from this Twitter thread and all the back and forth. I got dragged into it. I felt like I was walking into it. I hate Scott Faw. Like, he's nails on a chalkboard. I don't even care. He seems to have a great system and his data is backed up. Like, it seems correct for the most part and for strategically.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Like, I do not like the guy. He's one of the my least favorite people on all of Twitter, which is saying something. This is saying something. Listen, we're not getting into the weeds of the who said what. The point is the ethos I agreed with, you know, you seem like you had it under control, so I unsubscribed.
Starting point is 00:05:38 I would guess the pushback would be, well, if it shaved all the way down then less people are going for it. Correct? Is that most of... That was a lot of the feedback. And I would respond to that saying, do you think a foot of rough is what is making these guys go for it?
Starting point is 00:05:49 And that's kind of where I was gonna go to next. And also the other thing would be, you know, if guys are going for it or laying up like throughout the week, like if you put a gun to my head right now and said what percentage of guys went for it this week and what percent didn't, I would have absolutely no idea.
Starting point is 00:06:03 But on Sunday, I could be like, oh, well, I know Dustin went for it because I was watching the last, you know, I was watching the last few groups go through and I think that's probably your point is like, everybody could lay up there all week for all I give shit. Like as long as, you know, there's a decision to be made as the leaders are coming down the stretch. And if somebody's down by two, like, I don't think they're laying up. So I thank you.
Starting point is 00:06:21 If everybody goes for it, does anybody go for it? And everyone's like, are you, no laying up is asking for more layups? It's like, yeah, it's not that exciting if it just, if everyone's going for it, to your exact point, is anyone really going for it? It's like pretty simple to go for it. It's a, it's a no brain, almost no brainer decision, especially when the rest of the course is pretty bad enough. That's exactly the point.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Like there wasn't any bite. And when they got to 15, it's like, all right, here's the hole where this water hazard comes into play. And I watched Phil's ball, Eek left of the pin, gain speed down the slope and stop in the rough. And I was like, what's the point of shaving that bank at all if you're going to leave that foot of rough? Let that ball go in the water. Which Randy, you kind of said something to this effect a little bit, I think, with interesting golf holes, interesting pretty jam-packed leaderboard, and not feeling all that interesting to watch. Is that a fair summation of your experience? I think that's exceedingly fair, DJ. Thank you. And how much of that do you think is because
Starting point is 00:07:16 there's, like, not very much teeth in the golf course? Well, it's interesting, because, like, last week in Hilton Head, there wasn't a ton of teeth, but I found just the tournament much more captivating. So I'm honestly, I don't know, but I will say, you know, had you not watched anything today and you just saw the final leaderboard, you'd think, oh my God, what a great tournament. Like it must have been, yeah, you know, right down to it. And so I didn't get that feeling. I didn't think it was like overly captivating. And I think it was just more of how the proverbial
Starting point is 00:07:46 horse race played out. And to your question, I don't know, maybe last week on also an easy course without much bite because of the conditions, we just got a different horse race. So I would maybe attribute it more to that, but I don't know. But I hear your point on 15 specifically.
Starting point is 00:08:03 I don't disagree necessarily with anything that way. I think last week there were a lot more horses in the race. Yeah. That was the next round. Yeah, yeah. And it was just, you know, it's a little cooler looking. It's a little more interesting. A little more interesting.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Harburetans, more interesting. And I don't even dislike the courses week. I don't know if it was that necessarily. It just was, I think. I think it has so much potential as my point because like the pins on one and two today, right right, right from the get go, we're exciting. Two was 346 yards today. Pin tucked on the left, like that little left tunnel on number three at Augusta, and it was like, hey, if you want, birdie, go for it. It's a little lob wedge. Try to get this
Starting point is 00:08:39 as close as you can and watching the leaders come through and both miss the green. They both got up and down for part. They had to work for it. I was like, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Make these guys work for it. They're really freaking good. Like it's not like literally the best. Like it is okay to make it challenging, especially when you get to the weekend, when you're playing two sums, I understand there's pace of play issues when you have 156 guys on Thursday, Friday trying to get people
Starting point is 00:09:00 both bunched WD for COVID. So that helps as well. And you got guys off both sides and you don't want to log jams on the golf course. That's how they set it up. But when you get to the weekend, that's how I want to see guys separate themselves. That was my overall point. I understand the data would maybe show a lot of different things,
Starting point is 00:09:15 but I don't think Roy McElroy is standing on that team and laying up if the water is the grass. The data doesn't capture excitement. Right. And that's where I got lost for me, it was, oh, it's so much more exciting because the data should, like, dude,
Starting point is 00:09:28 like the data doesn't have anything to do with what's exciting or what. And not everyone's following the data. Like, yeah. If the data, I would hazard, yeah. Most people probably aren't. Yeah, so that's my case. All right, Dustin Johnson, your champion.
Starting point is 00:09:42 What? Let me just get this back on the proverbial race. You drove us there. You're right. I can't. You know what that was an example of those questionnaires where it's like, if you don't stop the train, it's going to kill four people, but you flip the switch and have it kill the one person, that was you with that.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I was going to say it was like Phil's bunker shot onto the railroad track, which was one of the highlights of the week, highlight of the week for me as well. Dustin Johnson, your winner. I think, you know, it's probably we played golf this morning and we were kind of talking about the leaderboard and I think we were both kind of of the consensus like, all right, look around it. Who else is up here? Dustin better go grab this thing.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I believe your quote was if Dustin doesn't win, that's damning, which I agree with. Yeah, and listen, he did. He did. He tried really hard to not. Dottie tried hard. He tried hard not to win it. John, let's start with you. What'd you see today?
Starting point is 00:10:31 First of all, I want to admonish him for the shot into 17. That was horrid. That was not good. That was awful. Why would you ever go for that pen being a... Wait, it just kind of... Was that 16?
Starting point is 00:10:43 The part three of here. The part three of here. 16, okay. Yeah, 16. That was. Horrid miss. He's coming right out of the, you know, he's coming right out of the delay. Maybe he was who I don't know what happened with the T markers. I hadn't flipped over.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Somebody stole. I'm talking. Yeah. Which is sweet, which is of course thing. And we would, you know, encourage. They're probably in shirt. But the fact that Dustin hits one OB, which was awesome.
Starting point is 00:11:07 And then basically second ball, birdie, and then birdies the next hole. And then the drive that he hit on 18. That was, I don't understand what happened there. That was just squared up. He was like, you know what, I'm done messing around. I'm gonna take this. I think we heard him say that.
Starting point is 00:11:22 He was miked up. It was like, it was Oakmont style. On 18. Well, there's a lot to unpack there. Of course, you're referring to what many people say is the greatest whole plate in the history of golf. He's won once every season for his entire career. He will forget that again, folks. Can we unpack the, the, the, the semantic argument that was unfolding? So the point is he, I don't believe one in 2013. The calendar year.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Yeah, correct. Or 2014, but he won in 2013, 14 seasons. So they hold him up. Well, what's the stat? You probably have access to it. Like Jack and Arnie and Tiger wanted. Yeah, if you want the WGC HSBC in 2013, which we can, I'm totally fine to argue whether that's a real event.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I'm with you, but he won it. It's very if a tree falls in a forest effect. And I want to admonish you, Randy, because you said, you know, he's dead. He's dead if he doesn't want a major this year. Correct. Correct. Correct. All right.
Starting point is 00:12:23 He has finished. Yeah. He's finished in the top three of three of the last. Let me stop you. You're so barking off the wrong tree. You know what he's going to say. Yeah. Cool. He's got a win on him. That's, that's all point. He's like not going on the door. Maybe one of the most talented golfers ever. He's supposedly he is. I got a question for you, Randy. With only there only being three majors this year, does he get a one major extension to next year's masters? Wow. No, but I will allow a special open championship exemption for next year. That's the one he's interested. That's very cool. Yeah. That's what I'm willing to do. All right. So, so
Starting point is 00:12:58 you're saying if he wins the 2021 Masters that doesn't count, but if he wins the 2021 Open, Open Championship, which is two or three months beyond the Masters that counts. I believe that that is war. It was real St. George's where he almost won the right dumbest thing. I heard. Well, listen, frankly, I don't think we have to worry about any of those things. So do you want to keep our you remember what? Do you remember when Bush, so he,
Starting point is 00:13:26 one thing I would like to point out, he was basically gonna win the 2017 Masters and then whatever happened happened. That's true. People do forget about that. But all stairwell thing. And Bush was saying, I guess, I guess, Bush was getting stuff autographed by DJ.
Starting point is 00:13:41 He's like, hey man, like, you're gonna win this week. Like, this is gonna be worth a lot more. He's like, I think you have anybody should know what we can call that. Falling down the stairs right before the turn. Sorry, sleep rub with the green. Classic, it's a rub with the green. He said where she is in the house, right?
Starting point is 00:13:55 He knows socks on the hardwood floor. Exactly. That's all I would you see from DJ today. Not to go back to the golf course, but does any hole get more credit for being an exciting hole that then it deserves than the 18th hole? No, I was struggling. Like, what was exciting about that?
Starting point is 00:14:09 No, the only thing that's exciting about it is that it's got like a badass atmosphere. Yes. It's got the bull with the amphitheater. Like Riviera. I was gonna say it kind of reminds me of a knockoff. It's like if Riviera and the 18th hole at Thornblade with the Penderly Championship,
Starting point is 00:14:24 with that left bunker, had a baby. And it was a really mediocre baby. I mean, it's, it's 433. DJ had 81, 83 yards into it today. Will Gordon had 96 yards in. It's just like a driver in between, like a, to a wide fairway and an easy shot under the green.
Starting point is 00:14:44 I don't, there's, you're forgetting also that golf is broken. It's sure we're going to. It's a wide fairway and an easy shot under the green. I know there's you're forgetting also that golf is broken. It's sure we're going to it's a wide fairway if you can fly it. Yeah, 300 plus. It's a very hard drive if you're if you're flying it to 85. I think we saw with Brennan Todd in the same group. Yeah, a much he had nine iron from but it was from that kind of chunky fake rough. Anyways, DJ one. I you know, I said it's on Twitter, but it was just.
Starting point is 00:15:05 You have so a crowning. So it's season four of the crown. Which we do. He was T79 after the first round. He was wild. So he battled his way back after McKenzie Hughes was blitzing everybody per usual. He shot 60 people, though,
Starting point is 00:15:18 I know that. He shot 60 in the first round. Well, it was, you know, as far as, you know, right there with the Daniel Summer Hay story, as far as what, you know, tugging on the hard strings, you know, DJ winning this event, you know, just totally, you saw how much it meant to him. For sure. And, you know, it just, I'm not so happy for the guy. That's, uh, correct me.
Starting point is 00:15:37 It's been a while since we've, since he's won. Right? Well, I'd like literally don't even remember what his last win was. Well, I'm guessing last season, bud. His last win was the, we never really tied the bow on that. His last win was the group of Selena Cemetery. Oh, right. Of course. In 2019. Do you have more bow time to do? Well, no, I think we kind of got sidetracked, but I was just going to say for those that are like, wait, wait, what is this whole controversy? Tiger, Jack, Arnie, they all won when the PGA tour season consisted of like it was all within a single calendar year.
Starting point is 00:16:09 And somebody Doug Ferguson on Twitter was making the point, which I will stand beside him, that we cannot put DJ next to those guys because DJ gets the benefit of the wrap around schedule. And one of his wins and to keep the street going was because of the wrap around schedule. Very cool of you to say wrap around, which very few people around these parts do. I will say the stat is kind of silly, I mean, but more so, DJ's longevity and consistency is truly remarkable.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Yeah, I'm listening. I'm for sure. It's basically to illustrate that the guy's been a killer for a very long time. I will also say that Nicholas and Palmer were winning Mr. Nicholas, Mr. Paul were winning some questionable events against not nearly as strong a field like a traveler's championship against Kevin Streol and Wil Gordon. Hey, Rory was there. Don't give me started on Rory. Well, let's go there. Let's let's talk about Rory. Well, let's go there. Let's talk about Rory.
Starting point is 00:17:06 He's not, he should. Before we do. Again, back to the 80 60 yards into the green. Oh, right. He's a... Speaking of which, how would we determine? You were speaking of which. No, I am gonna stretch to work this one in, okay?
Starting point is 00:17:18 How would you determine how far you are away from the pin, huh? Ranny, how would you determine it? You'd measure your calorie wedges. Yeah. You know, the pin, huh? Rainy, how would you determine it? You'd measure your Callaway wedges. Yeah. You know, the only two instruments God gave me, my two eyes, maybe. I don't know, how else could I do it? I would say that you would probably
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Starting point is 00:19:18 Hmm. Can anybody give me a good reason why they shouldn't the player side they're an integral part of the team and they absolutely are. I'm not disputing that. What, you know, at all. Look at like the WDs this week, you know, no faults to the people who were involved, but it's like a good deal of them were because of Caddies or like if you're really talking about cinching up the bubble and really like limiting the risk and taking every possible
Starting point is 00:19:41 precaution necessary, like why would you not have these guys use and push carts and range finders? That's the reach. Listen, for content sake, I would love to see that, but I don't like seeing you put these guys out of the app. T.C. You know what, you know what, I'm like, God damn it, I'm so happy you brought that up because guess what, purses haven't changed at all.
Starting point is 00:19:58 So all these guys can still pay their caddies the exact same that they would pay them normally. That doesn't really job those. That does against, yeah. What's that? Paying people to not do any work. Well, what about the tour pay? Does it against many of these people?
Starting point is 00:20:11 What about the tour paying guys who don't, you know, who test positive for COVID, to pay them 100K? That sounds like something an employer would do. Not something, you know, that sounds more like workers comp. Yeah. Well, how does that work with an independent contractor? That's what I'm saying. You can't be an independent contractor when it's convenient.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Listen, Dej, you're preaching to the choir. I'm just saying, I was burning on that a lot this week. I should have saved it for my Sunday soap box, but I saw an entry point. I hit the whole hard with the rangefinder stuff. It doesn't make sense to me why there's caddies. I would. From a client's own perspective, I love it. Nobody loves the caddies more than me.
Starting point is 00:20:42 And I think that they should, like I think that there's no way if a player's still being compensated fully and still, you know, these are deeply extenuating circumstances. And I'm sure that I would trust the classics of the, you know, playing on the PGA tour to take care of their loopers. Cooters eyes just lit up.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Well, then that's, and then that's the tradeoff as if guys don't do it. I would expect them to get thoroughly aired out and we'd have a content bananza. Ooh, gosh. It would have been fascinating to watch DJ pipe 1 OB today and have to go put his push cart down there and figure all that out. Totally.
Starting point is 00:21:17 No, Cady. Which blows with the string. That's so you had to put the string between the two OB stakes to see if his ball is touching any part of the line. Can you just, oh, you can't trust the human eye. No, not in a situation like that. All right. Well, let's, let's DJ.
Starting point is 00:21:32 I'm with you. Let's, let's keep that dialogue open because you think about his many great points. Think about it this week. I think, again, this is no, like, no fault to any of the caddies, but like, it's just numbers game. Yeah. And are the caddies on the charter? They might be. They might not be. Are they okay? There's two chargers. But what's your argument to saying, like, you know, golfer XYZ says, you know, the caddy is a, like, he helps me perform my best, like, just. You're, I mean, so does your physio. So does your swing coach.
Starting point is 00:22:05 I think, but like if other team sports come back, it's like, why have the coaches there, right? Like, there's a line where it's like, they're a part of, if each guy had their own coach, I would understand that. But I think before you, before you ask the caddies, you have to ask the swing coaches and the physios and all those guys that are on site. And in, you know what, I've prayers up for all the agents who have not been allowed on site
Starting point is 00:22:29 the last couple of weeks. I mean, you gotta remember there's significantly fewer activations going on. Yeah, you know, like these guys, I don't know how these players are even functioning with other agents on site. Bryson hasn't won since his due guy hasn't been allowed to sit on site. And the towel guy with how hot it's been. I mean, you can't measure these things. You brought up Bryson, and I'm sure we'll unpack him a little bit more, but like,
Starting point is 00:22:50 how interesting is that player-cadi relationship? Like, imagine all the stuff that that guy's doing, getting numbers and all that stuff. It's like, Bryson air-man. It would be fascinating to see Bryson like candidly like without a caddy. He air-managed green suit. He would go on.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Friday, I was watching on Friday, air-manled was that 14 kind of down the hill there. It's like pretty good guy. He's a pretty good guy. He's a pretty good guy. He's a pretty good guy. He's a pretty good guy. He's a pretty good guy. He's a pretty good guy. He's a pretty good guy. He's a pretty good guy. He's a pretty good guy. He's a pretty good guy.
Starting point is 00:23:11 He's a pretty good guy. He's a pretty good guy. He's a pretty good guy. He's a pretty good guy. He's a pretty good guy. He's a pretty good guy. He's a pretty good guy. He's a pretty good guy.
Starting point is 00:23:19 He's a pretty good guy. He's a pretty good guy. He's a pretty good guy. He's a pretty good guy. He's a pretty good guy. He's a pretty good guy. He's a pretty good guy. He's a pretty good guy. He's a pretty good guy. He's a pretty good guy. 1992, I've never seen someone go long here. Incarina! That was really, never seen someone go long, a 14 green, like a downhill shot in hot weather, man. Let's get it back on the, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:33 the Phil Mickelson rails here. Uh, COVID, how many people do we have? Seven WD, something like that. So it was camchamp, web simpson, Brookskepka, chasekepka. Budcali, Budcali. Denny McCarthy. Denny McCarthy. Six. That's six.champ, Web Simpson, Brooks, Capka, Chase, Capka, Bud Cawley, Bud Cawley, Danny McCarthy, Danny McCarthy. Six.
Starting point is 00:23:48 That's six. And now we've just, just leave a random word that Dylan Fratelli also for next week, next week, for next week. Yeah. Oh, it's just Grammack Dollar. Was that last? Grammack Dollar was before it turned, yeah, you're right. Yeah, it's the seven. So I think I do want to, I was critical last week of big J. Monahan. He's been behind the scenes. He hasn't really been out front. I don't think we've seen too much of him since the players press conference. Finally got up in front of the media and kind of, you know, regardless of what he said, I think the fact that he was just up in front and given statements and you know, I think they made some changes week over a week after the whole lotany thing and then
Starting point is 00:24:28 we can talk about Cam Champ here in a sec. For the most part, it just seemed like there was a little bit more leadership from Monahan this week. They have an interesting problem on their hands now with a not insignificant amount of false positive tests that are deciding guys' fate in a tournament. And not only that, it's deciding like,
Starting point is 00:24:47 other people they've come in contact, like Chase Keppga with drawing out of an abundance of caution when Ricky Elliott, who's Brooks Keppga's caddy, tested positive and then took another test and then tested negative. I have not had an update since then, whether he's confirmed to have not have it, but none of those guys tested positive
Starting point is 00:25:03 and they're all out of the tournament. Well, then it's the weirdest part of the monohan best conference, was when he's confirmed to have not not have it. But none of those guys tested positive and they're all out of the tournament. Well, then we're as part of the monohan press conference. It was when he's like, no, no, we were expecting that to happen. Well, then someone was like, well, what would happen? Like if someone tests positive and then to test negative, like, what, what would you, and he's like, oh, no, no, no, we would expect that to, we would expect that to happen
Starting point is 00:25:19 and then they just moved on. So yeah, it was a really good experience. Well, it seems a lot more likely that there would be a false negative than a false positive, which is the scary part, I suppose. Right. But then we also possibly maybe saw the same thing with Cam Champ as well, who got, I think, tested three more times, and all came back to negative. And people were saying with Cam Champ, like, oh, you know, if it was a false positive and
Starting point is 00:25:37 he was really negative and he didn't have it, it doesn't matter whether he broke the rules or not. No, it's still absolutely matters. Like he detailed that for people that don't know. He went in, so according to 25 different sources that who, to a man are all pissed. I got some really nasty DMs from people defending him and saying, what protocol did he break? Like, like, all right, cool.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Talk to any number of tour players or tour officials or people on the ground on Hartford. Like he worked with this physio after the test, but before the test results came back. Like the one rule they have is like, you can't go in the clubhouse. It goes right in the clubhouse. They sent his trainer home.
Starting point is 00:26:15 His trainer works with a number of other guys. Like that, like for people to not be able to see how dangerous that is or how that throws the entire system out of balance is beyond me. And I think you could read between the lines in Monahan's press conference when, you know, more players and tested positive, basically his improvements were, are not his, you know, the tours improvements were, okay, any player who breaks the rules, they're not getting the
Starting point is 00:26:40 stipend and we're changing the way we do the fitness trailer. And it was basically everything seemed like a direct kind of reaction to exactly what you do. Especially after, you know, guys that said like an colonial and heritage, it was like, you know, hey, is everybody really taking this seriously? And then this week it seemed like everybody was taking it seriously after that. And I'll be shocked if he doesn't get suspended. I would be, that's interesting, because they don't really,
Starting point is 00:27:07 I mean, they're not interested with suspensions as it is, and I think they'd rather the story go away than suspend them. And he's not playing this week. Yeah. I'll be curious to see if it plays the, this one's for you work day. I believe that was in his, either in the tour statement or I don't know, there's been so many
Starting point is 00:27:25 statements really. It's love takes that he would not be cleared until the work day. So if he doesn't show up there, then it can be a spursy button, but maybe people can put two and two together on that. So Alan Shipnote had a very, I think probably the strongest take on this whole situation, which was basically shut it all down right now, and this is gone far enough. Rani, what's your take on this?
Starting point is 00:27:51 Are you tapping out? I wanna recuse myself because I don't have, obviously I don't have the answer. So I think that's exactly my take. And that's what I've been thinking about at a time and I'm like, dude, I have absolutely no fucking idea what they should do. I have absolutely no idea have absolutely no fucking idea what they should do. I have absolutely no idea.
Starting point is 00:28:06 I don't know what I should do. Yeah, yeah. I was like, where a mask and don't be an idiot and don't go to public, large public happens. I don't think they should shut it down though. I don't either. I don't either. And what really bugged me about,
Starting point is 00:28:17 I like Alan a lot, he's a friend of ours, but like it's, it bugged me that he cited like incorrect information. Yeah. To with the, I guess New Jersey reported 1800 deaths or 2400 deaths that were backdated. Yeah, backdated to be attributed to COVID. Well, I was from the last three months versus in and it all went into one day and he
Starting point is 00:28:38 attributed that like 2500 Americans died more than 9.11 and it's like, no, they didn't. I would push back on that just a little than and that any numbers you'd like to pick right now are not good. It's definitely getting worse before it's getting better. It seems like. Right. And those type of corrections, they're probably gonna be more corrections
Starting point is 00:28:55 down the road in the same direction. You just see how bad the data was left to 15 green. I mean, all those numbers are way off. I think the tough spot is, you know, you lose a guy like Kebka this week and any guy that has with draw, it's in Simpson, you know, coming off a win. It just, you know, when you get to certain tournaments, the majors and that guy like Tiger, a guy like JT,
Starting point is 00:29:19 some of these big names like on a test, yeah, sorry. It just, I don't know, It's gonna make the whole event. It almost makes it feel arbitrary, right? Yeah. And all of a sudden people, well, he couldn't play. So is this a fully mid, I'll probably be that person saying it. But, you know, it just is a weird, weird situation. And I don't have the answer.
Starting point is 00:29:42 So I don't want to like, what do you guys think of Jay Day? Real quick, I think it was, it was definitely unrealistic to think that there wouldn't be positive tests. And they seem to have been prepared for that. And honestly, it took something, I don't remember exactly what Rory said, but it felt like Rory kind of stepped up and was just like, let's, people started taking it more seriously this week. I think was kind of, I think the wadney thing last week was a kind of a wake up call for everybody.
Starting point is 00:30:05 And, you know, like, like, going back to the tour statement was like, no, instead of, instead of putting a statement out, like, we're just going to have the commissioner get up in front of everybody, instead of our comps team putting a statement out. And I think that was important, right? It felt like there was, there was some direction from the top on that note. Nick Rodin, 23 asked, how confident are we in the towards ability to safely have over 8,000 fans on site in only two weeks? That was going to be my last point. Is that seems so awful and not good and so unnecessary? Yeah. Well, and from which standpoint?
Starting point is 00:30:37 From a couple standpoint. Yeah. So I think continuing this to be playing golf. I think if I'm reading the Teelee's, I would think that the tour is absolutely in no world gonna push for like more fans. Like I don't think that that's not where their revenue comes from, that's not where they're... Let's keep the show going. Yeah, like they just want to keep going. I would think and I could be totally wrong about this,
Starting point is 00:31:01 but I would think that it would be the tournaments who would be pushing for fans, because otherwise they have no way to make money. And there are a lot of title sponsors are putting up a lot of money right now, and not having any of the levers that they usually have with programs, with just normal admission, hospitality, all that stuff,
Starting point is 00:31:21 but they still have basically all the same costs. I mean, they still have the tournament sponsors are in a really, really, really tough spot right now. And that's why in the host orgs, yeah. And yeah, the host organizations who are putting on all these events who are totally separate from the travelers and rocket mortgages and all those things. But that's why we keep harping on the purses, staying the exact same is like the money is still going to have to come from somewhere.
Starting point is 00:31:44 And it's still, these host organizations are still gonna be on the hook to deliver X amount of dollars that they signed up for and they're gonna have to do it with no fans. And that's why I would assume big assumption on my part that that's where the push for fans is coming from. And like that is extremely problematic.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Oh yeah, it makes no sense to me at all. Let me ask you this. Do you think fans on site increases the risk for players? Getting COVID and testing positive? Or are you coming at it from like, it's just not good for the actual people showing up? Because I think it's more of the latter.
Starting point is 00:32:19 And I think it's great risk, but I think it without a doubt increases the risk. Yeah, there's more, because fans equal more volunteers, equals more security. One thing I didn't even thought of until we were talking to some people was like, where do people park? Nobody's parking at the clubhouse, which means they have to park off-site, which means they all have to get in a bus, which means they all have to share that.
Starting point is 00:32:38 How do you do the bathrooms and how do you do concessions and all that stuff? It just, man, it seems like such a needless, a needless risk. Unless you're a host organization who's like, we literally don't have another way to like make up this money. That sort of feels like to me. It feels like there's like without fans, some of these tournaments, like the whole reason for having the tournament is to raise money for charity and you're not raising money for
Starting point is 00:33:00 charity, what's the point of having the tournament? And the only people in this entire... It's the time is that the reason that they do it? Well, that's where we're getting back to the tour. It's like... It's far as the IRS is concerned. The only people who aren't taking a haircut in this are the players and they don't end the tour doesn't pay taxes.
Starting point is 00:33:16 So put three and three together. You got me. I'm coming to church on them for if you're preaching that. So I don't know, man, it's a weird situation, but to your point, Randy, like to unpack that a little more, like, no, I don't think it makes the players safer to, you know, that's totally fair. But I don't think it increases. I think there's a way you can do it, though, without I don't think that's the point. I don't think that's the huge risk. I don't think it massively, massively increases the
Starting point is 00:33:42 risk to the players, because I think they're going to be so sectioned off. But I think, you know, when you're seeing all this, and this is where I, you know, I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about as far as like the medical side of this. But when you're seeing all these different kind of community hotspots and community spread and all this stuff, like, yeah, it seems like literal last thing you'd want to do is get 8,000 people in one place, whether it's outside or not, like that. That's the whole thing. It seems like the whole priority is keep the show going.
Starting point is 00:34:10 It was funny this week people were like, well, ship now, you rely on the PGA tour for your paycheck and all that stuff. It's like, yeah, it's true. I want the PGA tour to keep going more than anybody. Sure. None of us wanted to shut down. So I think that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:34:23 It's like, it's already kind of a walking a tightrope. Why add another huge variable to it. And what's also a little weird about that is, I feel like the shipnote piece and a lot of the people who agreed with it, I totally understand where they're coming from, but it doesn't feel like they actually get to the end of their sentence,
Starting point is 00:34:46 which is like, if you shut it down now, then what does that mean? That means we're probably not coming back till when, till there's a vaccine. Because it's kind of, as- That's a non-starter. Bleak as this totally seems. I don't know how this isn't kind of the new normal, at least for the next, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:04 I feel like I'm incurring more race. Three months, four months, five months, six months. Go into the grocery store. Yeah. Then I am going to the golf course. And so I don't know, it's hard when you say, like, no, they need to shut it down. This is not working.
Starting point is 00:35:17 It's like, well, okay, but then what? And that's where I kind of like can totally sympathize for the tour as far as like, well, no, they're probably not going to shut it down. And where I net out with it is the people inside the ropes in at this event are not the ones that are going to be at great risk, right? Of course, we're all doing our part to limit the spread of this virus to the people that are greatly affected by it or not harmed by it.
Starting point is 00:35:40 So if they are testing, like right now, if a player tests positive on site, they are quarantining in place. They're not at risk to other people. They are addressing that risk to other people. So can our tour players willing to take on the risk of catching the virus? Clearly, very clearly. And they're able, the overwhelming odds are that they will be totally fine if they get this virus.
Starting point is 00:36:02 So is it a great risk to the people of America and the world that they continue to run events? I don't think so. I think if they have a huge outbreak, I can picture an event getting canceled. I definitely can. Like if 15 guys get it, I think they're gonna have to be like, all right.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Well honestly, I mean, I could see it for, like, economic reasons, too. Like if a, you know, yeah. Maybe that's more of a corn fairy thing, or something like that. This crazy corn fairy had zero positive tests between players and caddies this week out in Utah. So.
Starting point is 00:36:32 But to your point, like I think it's gonna be a fluid situation. Well, this is an alarming week and it's always good to be vigilant, but again, it's important to note how many of these came back as false positives, you know? Did they? I can't see them. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Yeah. Cam champ took three more tests and tested all negative. But that could have been he was just on the back of the very back end of having it. But I've read that false negatives are more prevalent and likely than false positives. So we may be in a who can say all of a sudden out of my depth in every single episode. Yeah. Can we talk about, so the fact that Jason Day got to play an hour and a half after his tea time. I mean, it's a tough thing because he didn't feel good. He requested a test, which you don't want to dissuade guys from doing that. But at the same time, he got to
Starting point is 00:37:23 play by himself. One of the slowest time, he got to play by himself. One of the slowest players on tour gets to play by himself. That feels a little bit off to me. Like, okay, like why couldn't, why Brooks and Chase didn't test positive. Why couldn't they just play with each other all week? This was once the weekend hit, right?
Starting point is 00:37:42 Yeah. Once or exactly in the limited field. That's probably why. Yeah. I have a hard time kind of, you know, somebody has reported, are you saying they shouldn't be able to play at all? No, I'm just saying like either, either you show up for your tea time or you withdraw. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Either one. And like, you know, I know that's tough and I know it puts a guy in a shitty spot to have to make that choice, but it seems like guys before the tournament started had to make that choice. Why doesn't he? Can I say something as a complete joke that is not no longer a serious comment because I respect Jason Day for reporting in everything,
Starting point is 00:38:16 but this was definitely nobody. Jason Day. Yo, I got this COVID. He's got the COVID-20 at that. I'm curious, so, and I don't know, if it was anybody else but Jason Day, do we feel the same? Matt Wallace, so Matt Wallace was on another side of it where Matt Wallace had to play by himself. Mike Wallace.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Yeah, sorry, Mike Wallace had to play by himself between sandwich between two threesomes. You know, which is awesome. And then like, I guess he threw his quesadilla in his play nine and then just got up. And, and, and was pissed the whole time, I guess, too. So I just, I just remembered the, the, the origination of that, which is, and let's go over to Vern. Thank you, Ian. This is Mike Wallace.
Starting point is 00:39:05 It makes a hole in one. Oh, so fast. Juck's supposed to have that with us. I think this master's right. Definitely with the master's. Juck's supposed to have that with Nance on the podcast a few weeks ago talking about the family members and how I just, I just do, just really want to do my due
Starting point is 00:39:18 diligence to make sure they're going to have this moment save for the rest of their lives. They're going to keep going back and watching it. I just got to get everybody's name right. Chris, do you know how hard that is, Chris? Mike Wallace. have this moment save for the rest of their lives. They're gonna keep going back and watching it. I just gotta get everybody's name right. Chris, you know how hard that is, Chris? Mike Wallace. Anything else on COVID?
Starting point is 00:39:30 The PGA Tour of Calm staff statement on Dylan for Telly. What's that? On the whoop thing. Yeah. It was tough. It was a point three and it's hard to explain. His respiratory rate went up point three over the night prior, which is very, very normal, very negligible.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Yeah. Lonnie's went up two entire breaths. Yeah. Mine's gone up more than point three like four times this week. So just full disclosure, we also signed a deal with with whoop before it with Woop before it was cool. Way before it was cool, honestly. Yeah. So I wanna be a little transparent here.
Starting point is 00:40:11 We've been wearing them for like six weeks. Which is how we know that like your respiratory rate goes up and down like much more than 0.3 and I don't believe anyone's have COVID. So that was a little weird to shoehorn that into the press release. It seemed like they were really, really, uh... It just seemed irresponsible from the PJ Tour comms.
Starting point is 00:40:28 I mean, where it's like, hey, like, if you really want to use this thing as a tool, don't, don't be the boy that cried a wolf on it. Over a point, yeah. It's, it's a complicated algorithm and all that stuff. But yeah, the wany thing was alarming because his rate went up so hot so much. Like, and yeah, it gives you a typical range of what your respiratory rate and his was exceeding it. And if you go up by 0.3, it does not exceed your typical. I went up 1.8 on Saturday night to Sunday.
Starting point is 00:40:52 I got a COVID test on Monday. In my wife got a COVID test and everything like, and it came back negative. I just had like a plain old cytosan infection. But I didn't know you got a COVID test. So I've heard up the nose. Not the nose. How was it? Not good. Never doing that the nose. Not the nose. How was it? Not good.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Never doing that. Yeah, it's not a lot. It's just go to a lot, Jay. No, I went down to St. John's County. That's wild. Yeah, I didn't know that. Kevin Streelman had a great way. I didn't want to put you guys in.
Starting point is 00:41:16 No, that's very cool. I'm, you know, I should have let you play by yourself about Thursday. I got an important question to ask about Kevin Streeland, made a great run. Top of what is on everyone's mind, the sunglasses on the back of the head. What's going on here?
Starting point is 00:41:32 Lee's does that too, so I have to be careful. But you can't be in support of that. No. I've been that guy before, and it's a tough, it is a tough scene. Somebody called Streeland the anti-just for men guy. He's gotten very gray. I want it over under career earnings for Kevin Strylman. A lot, man.
Starting point is 00:41:50 I don't know. 18,000. Yeah, 17 million was the number that jumped out to me. I looked it up earlier and I don't remember, but I think it was 20. Uh, which, Tron and I had a very brief discussion about him earlier and he's a guy, you know, after my own hardy's
Starting point is 00:42:05 from just outside Chicago, guys, Wheaton, Illinois, Emily. Oh, Chicago Golf Club, where he declined a membership. Exactly. 21 million. But, you know, a guy that is, I would say the consummate grinder, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:18 of course, great story about him just blowing out cars, going from mini tour event to mini tour event. Cadi, it was for us. Cadi, Whisperer. Cadi-ing and doing the whole thing and he's went on and had a very long career. So I feel like he gets dumped down a little bit for being kind of an every man, but you know, I have enough of that. I like Truman.
Starting point is 00:42:34 He makes, sorry, Phil Ticosky was who broke that question and apologized. Did he make like seven birdies in a row to win the trip? He said it's exactly what he did. He did. We can report 2014. So, Strayelman, you know, good for him. He's up there. I don't know that anybody was really riding super hard that he would win, but good for him
Starting point is 00:42:53 that he was up there. I think there has to be an asterisk on that 7 birdies though, because if there was a rough patch down there, who's to say if it really counts? Yeah. Good point. I'm 15. Will Gordon, what do we think of him? T.C., this is your time to shine.
Starting point is 00:43:04 I've been pumping the guy for a while. What, you wanna expand on that? I think you gotta... I think, you gotta... I think you gotta... I think you gotta... You guys are bad guys. You guys are bad guys.
Starting point is 00:43:18 No, I think, you know, the last... We saw him in Reno last year. Sat at the, I don't know, it was a crab's table, a roulette table. Yeah, you're popping up on a lot of tables. First time you had ever gambled before, and I'm like, oh my God, dude, this is awesome. Oh my gosh, you got my room, talk about it.
Starting point is 00:43:33 I knew he could send it, but he was hit in 186, 187. Off the tee, he ball-speed. That's like, that's not a pure Bryson drive, but that's what Bryson does. But for him to, like, he played well, and so for him to come out last year and be in the same class as Hoveland, Wolf, Moorakawa, Justin Sue, all those guys,
Starting point is 00:43:52 and like, that's a tough battle for the Scrat, like, because those only four guys can get sponsored exemptions from that crew each week. He was kind of the fifth guy. And so this year, seeing what he's done with him, it's been remarkable. That's what I was gonna say. I don't know that any, I don't know if anybody can like,
Starting point is 00:44:09 really put into perspective just how impressive it is to actually go out and do that. To come out and this is what is second or third, top 10 on tour, basically on order to... He's top 10 on order to... He's top 10 on order to... It's hard to explain and I kind of messed it up earlier, but basically you get seven sponsors
Starting point is 00:44:25 exemptions. If you're not a member of the PGA Tour, it's the maximum amount you can take. You can get up to set. You can get up to set. Unless you drew love. He gets more than seven? No, I'm just kidding. So you get up to seven to get as many points as whoever finished 150th on the prior
Starting point is 00:44:43 year points list or money, one of those two. So you have seven starts. So whoever finished 150th probably had over 20 starts. So you're already hands tied behind your back. You don't know when you're going to get starts. That's how you get special temporary membership. Special temporary membership, which allows you to get an unlimited number of sponsor exemptions
Starting point is 00:44:58 for the rest of the year. Correct. And if you finish, once you are, you know, you have special temporary membership. If you finish in the top 125, then you get a card for next year. As it turns out, the way that things have worked this year, basically it's the same number.
Starting point is 00:45:12 So once you get special temporary membership, he's almost assured a PGA tour card for the next year. But you don't, so not only that, so even if he didn't get it today, he would have earned his way into the rocket mortgage next week through a top 10 and wouldn't have had to burn one of only two sponsor exemptions he has remaining. But he got the card anyway, or the special temporary membership today, which is so impressive and so hard to do.
Starting point is 00:45:36 And in a year where there's not going to be an avenue to earn one this fall, there's no corn-fraith finals to graduate from. He would have been stuck in limbo for a long time. Well, how about, and I mean, the names you just rattled off also, like, what kind of odds could you've gotten on this happening that Wolf, Hoveland, Moorakawa, and now him as well, like literally none of them had to go through the corn fairy tour, which was what? That is, Hoveland had to go through the corn fray finals, but to your point, he used like a full season.
Starting point is 00:46:04 No, yeah, yeah. That's unbelievable. It's so hard to do. So hard. I feel like there's still time for the Zach Johnson's and the JJ Henry's of the players advisory council to bone him over. I think we're now through the JJ Henry swing
Starting point is 00:46:21 of him hoovering up sponsor exemptions. Of course he lives in Fort Worth, so he got in the colonial, he's from Connecticut, so he steals one this week. Four great rounds that we've seen over two tournaments from him. But yeah, hopefully we can move on and we can give Wilgordon his unrestricted
Starting point is 00:46:37 sponsor exemptions now. Moving on, Bryson, another guy who, you know, I don't know, I got no transition. Let's just talk about price. Watching him on Thursday was, he was a, paired with Rory, so watching those two and Phil, which was a whole, just a very weird experience, which we'll get to Phil in a minute here too,
Starting point is 00:46:58 but I don't even know how to, I don't even know where to start. It's just watching him and Rory specifically, you're like, dude, these guys, how do they not win literally every tournament and I'm not exaggerating? Like they, their driver puts them so head and shoulders above everybody in the field. And it's like, dude, if how can you not just hit it close and make putts from 86 yards on every single hole? It doesn't seem like Bryson's making the putts.
Starting point is 00:47:27 He putt it well this week. He putt it well this week. He putt it well. I think he's in Stokes game putting this week. I think his wedges were. He did not approach very well. I just feel like every time I see him, he's missing a putt and he's apoplectic. But I think it's the Mikkelson thing that we've talked about where it's like, God,
Starting point is 00:47:42 this guy can't make a five footer instead of like, God, this guy hits it to five feet a lot. Man, that's crazy. It just doesn't seem like he's brought it all together. He's hit like it basically a squirrely drive that has either had to reatee or has severely punished him in both the last two weeks. He was somewhat close to, I mean, he finished at 1500, DJ finished at 19 and he hit at least 1 OB ball this week. I might have hit more than one.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Um, and he'd be to par five today. He had one in the water. There, there were some sloppy mistakes. It just seems like he's struggling, which to that point, he's definitely not. He's finished top 10 in each of the three events. And that goes to show the value of just driving it really far is you can be even kind of shitty with a lot of other parts of your game or not sharp and still finishing the top down the pd tour. Check it out. What if he is struggling? That's what's
Starting point is 00:48:30 I'm saying. Yeah, it just hasn't clicked yet. I think that's the lens to view this week is like, I think it was a massive success from the standpoint of he has raised the floor of his potential in his game, to where he can have an extremely mediocre week. It got him tied for six, you know, at Travelers. I think the way he's playing now, it's like, he's gonna really have to fall apart to one miscut or to like not be a factor. And these aren't courses that are well suited.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Exactly, exactly. That's 100% right. I think we've come through like the three courses that are like, all right, those three are gonna be, you know, like after like the Riviera's and stuff which I think you finished fifth at Riviera or something like that too, but like on the hashtag return to golf, these were gonna be the three that was like,
Starting point is 00:49:21 all right, he might, let's see how it goes there. And now like this week, I don't know if he's in the field in Detroit or not, I think he is. I thought he'd sign that like a long time ago that he's playing there. But like that seems like a golf course where he's like, he might win by eight. He might win a couple of events by eight. And you know what I mean? Just to for all the people who say he can't put, he was 10th in strokes and putting this week as well. Just that. Is this going to be the new McKenzie Houston? Did you just say that? He was not looking at that.
Starting point is 00:49:46 No, he was in. So I was actually correcting you. No, he's ninth, 5.049. Yeah, he hasn't finished outside the top 10 since Riviera. Well, to your point, and I was a weird article that was kind of floating around that. I don't know if we got the whole story from Bryson, but his quotes were basically like,
Starting point is 00:50:04 Oh, what the hell was that? I want to be the house, kind of like around that. I don't know if we got the whole story from Bryson, but his quotes were basically like, Oh, what the hell was that? I want to be the house, kind of like a resident. Yeah. And I think that's exactly what you mean with raising the floor of, no, he, now the odds have shifted in his favor of like, he is going to have to really suck to him, ever sniff missing a cut. That's right.
Starting point is 00:50:21 I know we've said this on this podcast a couple times, but like watching him in Rory especially. Like watching Rory shoot 63 the other day, I think I tweeted something afterwards, but it's like, oh cool, like pretty mediocre, 365 for Rory today. Like he just doesn't have to do anything all that special and he's just gonna make all the birdies.
Starting point is 00:50:42 All the par-fives are par-fours and he's gonna have little flip wedges. He's gonna drive it up close to a couple, and oh, bang, whoa, Rory shot 64? Holy cow, how did that happen? I do wanna address a lot of people who are reaching out whenever anybody shoots a 66. All 66s are not created equal.
Starting point is 00:51:00 If somebody shoots a 66 on the weekend in blustery conditions at the Honda, it doesn't, there's no equivalent to that at the weekend in blustery conditions at the Honda, it doesn't, like, there's no, there's no equivalent to that at the travelers in benign conditions in the first and second round. Well, also, they should be two of them. Two of them, yeah. Two 66s.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Yeah, but, but even then, it's a par 70. There's no wind. It's, it's benon. Honda's par 70 just, just no, I know what you mean. Yeah. Pat and Kazair almost had the full Mackenzie Hughes' switch. Which that would have been impressive. That would have.
Starting point is 00:51:27 66, 66, 66, 67. And so Mackenzie Hughes, the two bombs he made on 17 and 18, took him from a six-way tie for sixth to a T-3 and made him almost $211,000. Like $300,000 Canadian. Six-way tie for sixth you know, the new 66. I will say watching he made a huge putt there on 17 and loose like a really big fist pump, having no crowd noise for that kind of sucked. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:56 How cool is that spot that both he and DJ? I guess DJ was on 17. 17, yeah, that was a spot. That thing was great today on 17. But yeah, I don't know. Three weeks in watching golf on TV with no fans. How do we feel? It's not demonstrably different most of the time for me. Yeah, totally totally fine. I think yeah, I think if it's the matter of should we have the event or should we have the event with no fans? No, no, no, no, no, no, I agree. That's not the point.
Starting point is 00:52:27 I'm saying, as a viewing experience, is it, I think there's been, eliminating all of the variables, is it make a difference when you watch on TV? I would say like the, the McKenzie Hughes one that you pointed out, like that sucked, the Daniel Burger chip in at Heritage. I think I was kind of like, all right, well, that was kind of anti-chomactic. And then actually, we'll get into this too, but the Daniel Sumber Hayes playing in Utah, which like that would have been an unbelievable scene if there were fans there. But other than that, I haven't thought about it. Yeah, and there's positive.
Starting point is 00:52:58 There's positive too, because there's no way they can juice all these mics. It's true. With crowd. You're going to get a bunch all these mics. It's true. With crowd, you're gonna get a bunch of morons. That's true. Yelling. I think it back nine Sunday though, it tangibly affects like the excitement level from watching on TV.
Starting point is 00:53:14 It was actually, there's enough houses at travelers that there was some decent crowd noise coming from them and people made a putt and there was kind of refreshing. Mostly. The majors are gonna be weird. Yes. I think Augusta could almost, you could convince me that it would be cooler even.
Starting point is 00:53:27 It would just be like extremely tense, which I think would be kind of fun. But like a US Open PGA, I would know fans that's going to be very weird. I would listen to a case for piping in crowd noise. I would listen. I would listen to it. Well, we'll see if someone wants to call in
Starting point is 00:53:41 and make that case. I would hear it. Randy, let's talk about your boy, Phil. 63, 64 start or 64, 63, 64, 63. Shot of life. What would you see from him this week? What'd you like, what'd you dislike? Why, I got, I was really excited.
Starting point is 00:53:57 36 whole lead. You're going into the weekend. You were buoyant on Friday. I was absolutely so excited. Did you think there was any chance he was winning? 36 hells in? I thought there was a chance for sure. I'd gone to my head, would he win, yes or no?
Starting point is 00:54:13 I would probably say no, but I think that's what remains is like his best. He's struggling to find his best for four days, but he's still supremely talented, of course. So yeah, I was hoping he could conjure something. It was a big let down this weekend, though. The 71s were, I wouldn't have expected him to play that poorly, I guess. The bunker shot out of bounds that has been previously referenced was the greatest all-time.
Starting point is 00:54:44 That was unbelievable. Serious question for Phil on the back of the play last week at Heritage? No. No. Okay, never mind. I was going to say on the back of three weeks are we concerned about it, but even on the back of one week at age 50, getting all the way through a weekend, are we concerned about that?
Starting point is 00:55:01 What? Yeah, it's been a concern. I think he... We remain concerned. We remain concerned. We're monitoring the situation. We're working with local state officials. And that's where I'm not sure if it's just... Like, it's a factor of all those things, right?
Starting point is 00:55:13 He's his age and for whatever reason, he just struggles to have that consistency over the course of four days. I can't think of a worse course for Phil to play than Harbor Town. I do. That's 100%. That's it. I was like, go to say course for Phil to play than Harbor Town. That's a hundred percent. I was like, go to say it, went to say it. There's no way you would play that course. Do we need to do a hamster damn section on TV this week? Sure.
Starting point is 00:55:34 It could be very quick. There was no last pair of this week, so I feel like we need to. Is that right? Yeah. Sellers shy and the other do, they've got two separate crews now. As the captain, DJ, what are you allotting each person? Each person gets 10 seconds. It was back to being what it was.
Starting point is 00:55:51 In Heritage was a anomaly. I think this might take. Randy. I thought the four o'clock, the five o'clock was especially terrible. And other than that, I didn't really notice anything. That's all I have to say. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Well, I think you've a shout out to Mr. Schnitz. Schnitzler. Schnitzler. Is that right? Schnitzler? I think it's Alan Schnitzler. Alan Schnitzler. Schnitzler.
Starting point is 00:56:17 The traveler's got. The Schnitz. That's my 10 seconds. Alan Schnitzler. DJ. I thought it was actually pretty good. I thought it moved along. One thing I would say is I would have loved to hear more Ian Baker Finch talking about being in the wilderness.
Starting point is 00:56:29 He's talking about Brendan Todd, you know, like, oh my God, this guy completely lost his game. Yeah, I totally relate to that. And then that was kind of the end. I would have liked to hear a lot. Like that's the one time where it's like, you like make a personal. I do actually want to hear from you on this.
Starting point is 00:56:42 You were one of major and then you didn't do any. Yeah. So anyways, can I give you my Finch? Give me some more. You were one major and then you didn't do any. Yeah. So anyways, can I give my finish? Give me some more. Pull back the curtain a little bit. Give me a little more. Can I get my soapbox Sunday out of the way now? Because it's tied into that.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Mine was going to be a shout out to Brennan Todd for how well he's played. And it felt like this was skipped over him, I guess. This was CBS's first time with him. And he won two other events this year. They weren't on the air. And so they were acting like this was his return from the Yips.
Starting point is 00:57:07 And they said Yips about 780 times. And they also said he had driver Yips, which was not the Yips he had. He had long iron and fairway wood Yips. And it just seemed like they are blowing past like how far, how great he's been playing for a very long period of time. He's having a great season.
Starting point is 00:57:21 And it was a tough day today. The Yips that he's had in the past were not related at all to what happened today. To that exact point, it was just kind of like Ian Baker French gave us nothing in that regard. And it was just it's kind of weirdly not shitting on the guy, but like more of like making that the narrative about him more than it was. He's won twice on on tour this year. And as much as we really don't care about the FedEx Cup would have been leading the FedEx Cup again in a year that he would have been like player of the year.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Yes. He had a tender or front runner. If CBS doesn't cover it, it didn't happen. That's true. That's kind of the vibe I got, which was kind of frustrating about Brendan Todd. Because yeah, that was, he was going to be in my shout out and I'm kind of tying all that into it.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Solly, what do you think about the dog? Now that we're on the coverage side. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. You can't tell me you think about the dog? Now that we're on the coverage, so I'm like, thank you. Okay. You can't tell me you don't have enough cameras out there. All right. If you've got one,
Starting point is 00:58:10 everybody's 10 seconds to stop. If you've got one on the dog, you can't tell me you don't have enough cameras out there. Objection, you're on your time is up. I apologize, I said about that. Trance, it's time. I shouldn't reward your bad behavior, but it is time to tell you what the corporate fairy tour.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Baby. Daniel Summerhase, quick shout out to Patten Kazairan Scott stallings had great weeks. That's just one. Kevin Shaw shout out to all shout out to everybody as well. Daniel summer haze playing in Farmington, Utah at Oak Ridge, the Oak Ridge boys. Oak Ridge National playing at the course where he grew up.
Starting point is 00:58:41 You probably had heard whispers of this story if you're on any social media on Sunday afternoon, you probably had heard whispers of this story if you're on any social media on Sunday afternoon, but he had announced he was before the week. He was going to retire. This was going to be his last event, playing at home at the course where he grew up. Very cool. Nice send off. Very legal.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Very legal. Very cool. He was going to retire and Randy. What was he going to do? He was going to, I'm being told he was going to, what was he was he gonna do. He's gonna go teach high school and coach high school golf. He's gonna, he's going to pay, as they kept saying, he's gonna pay it forward, pay back the game. And my question was, I was curious what he was gonna teach
Starting point is 00:59:17 and you guys informed me that physical education. That's what I've heard. I believe which seems like a much, much more comfy gig than dope dark ball. Dark ball is on so starting. Over level golf tours. Starting the week, a very cool story. Farewell, the Daniel Somerhe is at his home course. He's going to go do this cool thing that nobody else that I can think of has actually went and done. The story is made exponentially better on Sunday when he goes out and shoots 62. I thought he missed the cut.
Starting point is 00:59:45 I thought he missed the cut too. So they put a big, you know, a big edited video in front of them on the tee, one of the days and the corner fairy toward it. Did a great video. He teared up and then I figured I was like, oh, yeah, like he didn't play well. It was too much for me to miss the cut. No, he didn't. Check it out. he didn't play well. It was too much for him. I missed the cut. No, he didn't check it out.
Starting point is 01:00:05 He didn't went out completely just blitz the golf course this morning, shot 62, finished almost three hours before the leaders. But Bogey does last whole. Bogey does last whole, but finished three hours before the leaders. The wind gets up in the afternoon. Nobody's able to pass him. So he gets into a playoff. But he see what happens in the playoff. They play the 10 pole, which is like 520 yard or 510 yard par four, really hard.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Lake in front right of the green. It starts pouring rain, three man playoff. The other two guys make par. He hit a good putt. Like it was, I'm pretty similar line to it. It went in. Yeah. That putt went in. Yeah. That went in.
Starting point is 01:00:45 And just didn't just didn't fall. But I will say Daniel Somerhez class act. True like truly a class act. Zach and the Utah guys always speak, speak volumes about him. And I think back to 2017, he almost won the memorial that year. He played really, really, really well. And then. He did win in Columbus, his first start.
Starting point is 01:01:06 His first at the Nationwide Children's Hospital Open. And then that same summer, 2017, he went to the Quick and Loans National, the Cats event in DC. I don't know if he was leading at some point during that. I just remember him making noise there, and then he made noise at John Deere. That was right when I was getting deep again
Starting point is 01:01:24 into sports betting, and I was getting deep again into sports betting and I was betting on him at like 200 to 1, 250 to 1, you know. How did that go? What could have been, man? What could have been? He, it was weird to me to watch a career and the guy was four years ago. He finished third at the PGA. But that PGA was faked, the 2016 PGA.
Starting point is 01:01:44 So it's an alleged PGA. It could have been a guilty conscience wanting to get out of the game. But so do you think you would have one thing? The only way, it's very symbolic, I thought, for a golf career to end on missing out losing by one shot on a great put that you hit that just burned the left edge. That was just like, that sums up golf and how hard it is. And I'm curious if like if you,
Starting point is 01:02:08 if he would have won, if you think he truly rides off into the sunset. I think he would, honestly. Like they, they talked to him after the word, they talked to him after his round. And, and he was kind of like, you know, I don't know who knows, it'll be good enough. And they basically asked him point blank,
Starting point is 01:02:20 like if it is, you know, or what do you think, he's still gonna hang it up. He said, honestly, like, yeah, I think I will, I think this is a good, you know, I feel like I need? You're still gonna hang it up. He said, honestly, like, yeah, I think I will. I think this is a good, you know, I feel like I need to go out and I'm sure he wants to speed at home, spend time with his kids. And it's also, I mean, he's super admirable, man.
Starting point is 01:02:32 He's made plenty of money and like, who among us wouldn't, you know, applaud somebody who's like, hey, I've done what I want to do and I'm gonna hang with my family. He hadn't played. It's kind of the Lorraineau Choea, which a few less wins. He hadn't played a World Golf ranking counting event since the 2019 military tribute at the Green Rire. So I mean, he hadn't played in...
Starting point is 01:02:57 Right. I mean, Miss 14 and 19 cuts on the Cornfairy Tournament last year. I hadn't watched that. I thought he was playing every week. No. And, you know, I don't know. I mean, the guy was, he was in the top 100 in the world for like a solid two and a half years.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Made 10 million bucks. Yeah. I also want to shout out. Real quick. I think, I think he blew it. I don't think he should have participated in the playoffs. Right. I think he should have withdrawn, shaken hands
Starting point is 01:03:21 with the competitors and walked off into the sun. Well, it's COVID. You can't shake hands with the competitors. That's true. That should have been very succumbent. But if he's going to retire, what does he have to prove in a playoff? If he's retiring either way, just withdraw, you know, he entered the event this week.
Starting point is 01:03:36 I said he should have scooped it if he had a chance to win, but yeah. He should have scooped his last bite. No, he shouldn't even even teed off. But why prove it? Bottom line, it was great to have. That's a great take, great. It was great to have Corn Fairy back televises.
Starting point is 01:03:50 I wish you could see the shit even grin on the ready space right there. I am kinda serious about that. It is a Sacramento King's shirt. No, I am kinda serious about that. You really, you don't think you should have showed up for the playoffs. Because for the rest of his life,
Starting point is 01:04:03 well that would have been sick for sure. Like who cares? You know, playoff, what, okay, you finished time for second, you lost in a playoff. No, screw it. Four rounds, I finished time for first, that's how I ended things. That would have been epic.
Starting point is 01:04:16 If you're ever in the situation. People aren't willing, that's why Tiger should have scooped that Augusta, people aren't willing to do the epic thing in those situations. Which many, man. Well, you also get DQ to not get any of the money either. No, not if you pull out of a playoff. No way.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Yeah. No, you're saying out of the playoff. Okay. I think summer hate should have pulled out of the playoff. 72 holds he tied for first. Walk it off. What are the rules on that? No, you're just would be,
Starting point is 01:04:44 and you didn't finish the whole. You'd get T2. You're just T2. This is a weird time to suggest this. I think, I've been thinking about this. I think a runner up in a playoff should pay out differently than a true runner up. It's like when in hockey, when you get an extra point for...
Starting point is 01:05:01 The overtime loss. For an overtime loss. Or for a, you get less points for a shootout win versus a. I just thought about that. It's like if you if nobody beat you over 72 holes, I think that's a dip that's that's different than a solo second. Let's just show that I'm in for that.
Starting point is 01:05:17 I don't know where the money comes from, but I take it from also that they should have played it off for a second. Then if you have a three man playoff, play it all the way off. I'd like to give some more corn fairy shout out to five May. Please. They had Will's Allataurus and Braden Thornberry and Theo Humphrey, the first two of which I was very excited to watch. Fantastic viewing.
Starting point is 01:05:39 They had the hot mics all week. Great to have perks and burko back in the booth, actually from Orlando. They weren't even in the booth. It was great to have Cornfairy back on TV after two weeks of not. Holy shit. Thank breaking news. Sorry. NBC is broadcasting this year's US Open. And Fox has just ended its 12 year contract with the USGA, according to Doug Ferguson, at the end of the associated press. Whoa. Associated press. Sorry, if you want to finish your corner, very note there, but.
Starting point is 01:06:07 No, that was all I had. And Ryan Ruffles. Ryan Ruffles. Tough scene. And he was on your... And he had a great run. Yeah, he had a great run. He said that it was tough to control the distance on wedges
Starting point is 01:06:17 at 4,000 feet, which, but next week, you're at 5,500 feet. So you got to get used to that. Holy shit. Three people with direct knowledge of the change set came together in the last two weeks. They spoke on condition of animinity. I can never say that word, because the deal has not been announced.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Announcement is expected in Monday. Tough scene for Mark Holy. Holy shit. That sucks. Fox is the best. Oh, we need time to process this, I think. I guess we'll be discussing this maybe later this week. I don't know what to say.
Starting point is 01:06:51 Uh-huh. Yeah, I don't know. We're gonna have to think on this for a bit, but I extremely, extremely get reaction. I don't know if maybe Fox got hit mega hard with COVID stuff and just the contract didn't make sense anymore? I have no idea. Orch is a good out.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Yeah, it can be. But then like, all right, so I think that brings us to something NBC-nooked golf channel this week. Yeah. And then they want to spend another couple hundred million dollars a year on the US Open. That was going to be the only other. The last thing on the agenda was the massive golf channel layoffs that were announced
Starting point is 01:07:28 this week, which we kind of, you know, you could see around the corner. You could kind of see what was coming a few months ago when the golf channel announced that they were moving their headquarters to Stanford, Connecticut, which is kind of where the rest of the NBC sports operation was. But they made that pretty official with employees this week and basically announced, hey, we're going to, we're going to pretty much replace almost all of you and a few of you will have the opportunity to reapply for your jobs. Should you so be interested? Rip the soul out of the account. Can you explain to me because I don't really know, I don't keep up on the broadcast stuff
Starting point is 01:08:02 as much as you guys. Are they replacing all these people? Are those people's responsibilities being taken over by people currently employed in Stanford? That's why I didn't know. I don't know. You're just going to hire new people in Stanford. Why wouldn't they bring them off from? No, it seems like there's a lot of efficiencies with, and I sound like one of the bobs.
Starting point is 01:08:23 But it sounds like there's a lot of efficiencies because they're gonna be in like with NBC sports network if they're already existing studios, they don't have to hire your or employ a whole different couple sets of camera operators. I think it'll be a little, a little above. So it's all like they're hiring a ton of people up in Connecticut. And that's what makes sense.
Starting point is 01:08:42 That's what I think, why would they? Yeah, and that's what I think the reapply thing was for is the jobs that will just transfer. I'm guessing those were the ones that were more like, we love for you to reapply, but the ones that are like, hey, we have a graphics person already in Connecticut. We don't need to bring a second graphic person.
Starting point is 01:08:57 I think that was probably the vibe, which, yeah, I mean, I think that's gonna be shitty for golf fans. I don't see it literally any upside whatsoever to this for the consumer. Right, no, it sucks for all the individuals. And I don't say this to make light of that at all, but I will say the NBC sports presentations that they do and other sports are really good.
Starting point is 01:09:21 They're like top of business. So I'm not really pessimistic about that, I guess. No, I think that's an interesting point, but I wonder if, yeah, I wonder how much like institutional golf knowledge you're losing on that stuff, you know what I mean? Like, if you're not having, if you're losing producers and you're losing like the people who are really
Starting point is 01:09:40 making these things go and the people you're keeping are the executives who, as I believe, I mentioned on Twitter, like basically the people who have thought like, what, you know, I know what real golf fans want, which is like really toothless morning shows and like paid luxury resort adversarial, like that's what people really like. If those are the people that are keeping their jobs, like, I don't think, you know, the slick production of NBC sports is really gonna make anything better. But, and it seems like it's more, you know, it's just a wave,
Starting point is 01:10:08 like the tour is gonna take over a lot of the elements too at PGA tour entertainment and state run media. We'll see. We'll see. It doesn't seem good, but you got any more in file? I can't process my thoughts right now.
Starting point is 01:10:21 I'm just like, Well, talk to it and let me play interviewer then. Like what off the top of your head, like what are some of the big ramifications? Because, I know. Well, Fox is like the only innovator. Because I know, but let me ask for the people who may be listening.
Starting point is 01:10:32 That's all I know. Fox is the only one that's innovated anything over the last several years in my mind. They've changed the way, how frequently shot tracers use, they have done so many good, like, really long segments of commercial free. They have given you audio that's better than anything that we've gotten in TV, and they've shook up this infrastructure that's heavily tied to CBS and NBC
Starting point is 01:10:53 that is an issue, especially with like tour run events, just with the commercial load and everything like that. It's been the best viewing experience, I think, to watch golf on Fox. Some people don't love the commentary. For that. They don't dress at at horrible first year. How far they've come.
Starting point is 01:11:07 They've come so far and they are in it. Like they are the only ones that seem to be proactive in getting ahead of the curve and trying to be different. And now we're back to just these two networks again. Maybe Johnny will come back. Oh, it's for sure back. That. It seemed like also that Fox treated it like a lost leader. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:29 It was like a prestige play for them. And now that, now that NBC, it's, you know, it's like, I don't know if Fox had an out or if NBC, you know, it's like, is the USGA taking a big financial hit too? Yeah, I have no idea how it would be. Because they were getting a freaking blank track from Fox. Yeah, I don't know how the economics of that work. That's basically came out to like 91 million E. No, I know what it was.
Starting point is 01:11:51 I just don't know how. Yeah, I don't either. I don't know how that. I hope somebody keeps telling us in the amateurs and the lower level events. I love the one. Fox had cut back on that the last couple of years, which was disappointing.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Yeah, because nobody else, it's their right, so nobody else can pick it up. We're like, even like US Open sectionals, golf channel used to treat it. It was like, you know, it's glory. It was like golf's longest day, and they did studio shows and all that. I think golf channel was doing a lot of that
Starting point is 01:12:16 to kind of slurp the USG out to try to get the next right steel. And they really like blew it out of the water this one year. And then the USG was kind of like, oh, great job, but like we're gonna go with Fox. Well, maybe they'll start re-slooping. Hopefully it'll be, that's all we need some re-slooping.
Starting point is 01:12:30 That's the best we can hope for. All right, well, we're gonna listen, rest assured, we're gonna dive in. It's always gonna be up, working the phones. Adam Schefter is gonna be doing his thing. I mean, trying to get some info on this. Somebody that is not bacon has already slid in, be like, I was, I know, somebody that was gonna be to be involved in just said, like, yeah, I absolutely no idea until two
Starting point is 01:12:48 minutes ago. So this is, I didn't even hurt a rumbling. Props to Fergie. We were, I was dogging him earlier on, you know, holy shit. What a scoop. God, this might suck for a lot for golf fans. Uh, potentially. Well, should I always enjoy the NBC production of the US open, but I just felt like we needed some, some, some one of our country. You need an upstart incumbent challenger. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:14 Fox was a beacon of light. It was something we could point to you to say, like, at least those guys were doing something different. The more that I think about it, the more I'm like, all right, when they entered into the contract, they probably thought they'd be a player for the right steel when it came up. And now that they are no longer a player in the right steel, maybe they were looking to get out of this as soon as it could possibly. Well, maybe that takes us into our, you hate to see it segment? That's something that the most definitely hate to see.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Anybody want to kick us off? Yeah, I have a kind of a benign one. Runner up, I, personal note, I hated to see Michelson's weekend, but more than that, I hated to see Seheath the Gala from Pepperdine, Mysticut. I was hoping to see a little bit more of him play. He was a big name in college golf this year. Obviously, the college golf men's champion chips women's championships were canceled. So that was somebody I was hoping would do really well this week, but he missed a cut. I've got a story about him. Sure. He slid in the DMs this week and said, uh,
Starting point is 01:14:13 I don't know if he played college golf with him at Pepperdahn and, uh, um, his freshman year or sophomore year, so he went out on the range and he was purposely shanking balls on the range and his coach asked him, Hey, why are you doing that? He's like, oh, I'm just trying to psych on my opponent. That's a long way in on it. You have my attention. Solid, do you have another? You hate to say it? I do. Yeah. There just seems to be a lot of winging going on in relation to continued
Starting point is 01:14:42 winging in relation to the official World Golf ranking starting up. I haven't heard anything for the last 10 days. going on in relation to continued winching in relation to the official World Golf ranking starting up. I haven't heard anything for the last 10 days. Andy Sullivan took to social media or there's an article that was had a bunch of quotes of Andy Sullivan kind of complaining about how far he'd fallen in the rankings and how their livelihood is based on these and it's how they get into WGC's. Again, missing the point that the fields are set for the WGC's. This is not going to have a tangible impact.
Starting point is 01:15:05 Howtong Lee's caddy was on Twitter saying like, you know, as he's fallen from 81 to 91, which isn't howtong Lee's caddy, like the one that didn't bring his caddy before. I don't know. I don't know. He, no. I don't know who he brought to the president's cad. But sick of that guy was making noise. He brought his trainer, right? He went never caddy before. I don't know what happened there. But just bokeh. That was making noise about the OWGR. The best he was complaining about it and he's like saying about how
Starting point is 01:15:33 Tom couldn't play and he dropped in the rankings and how Tom was eligible for the events. He just didn't come play. It just seemed like people are totally missing the point and it's all people it's all people from the European tour that are all still up in arms about the world ranking system. So I hate to see that. And that's just something you hate to see. Tron, what do you hate to say? First of all, I hate to see JT, Missed a Cut both Poston and Justin Thomas.
Starting point is 01:15:57 When Justin Thomas misses a cut, I was starting to get worried. It's unsettling. It's unsettling. He's one of the far and away one of a top three or four players in the world. There's no reason he should be missing cuts, especially in a place like Hartford. He actually drove it well this week too. Right? But I really, really hate to see Massimo. Oh, and Anne Becky. And Anne Becky get booted from Belair Country Club. Well, a quick point of correction. They did not get booted. They resigned.
Starting point is 01:16:24 They're membership. Well, you can not get booted. They resigned. They're membership. Well, you can't take us out. We quit. Yeah. The membership was waffling on whether they were going to be kicked out or not. So they were suspended, but while they were going to, like, they were going to be suspended concurrent with their prison term.
Starting point is 01:16:36 Right. They were going to be reinstated once they got out of the box. And this former president, you know, pulled out the whole class act, the whole, like, I'm a, I'm a gentleman thing. Gentlemen are not felons. In that case, they're not gentlemen. And he said it would cause irreparable harm
Starting point is 01:16:54 to everyone at the club. I believe he said, Bella, there's a laughing stock amongst clubs. That worldwide laughing stock. And so sure enough, you know, they said, you know what, we quit. We're out. We out the bitch. I hope they enjoy Riviera. So you hate to see that. One thing I hated to see was Randy again, your boy Phil Mickelson. We didn't really mention the joggers. I know that was
Starting point is 01:17:19 part of it, but it just kind of feeds into this. Far be it for me to suggest midlife crisis would be the word. Prolonged midlife crisis. You got the joggers, you got the sunglasses, and now a report this week that he's filed to trademark the term hit bombs. Hopefully in the... Heating bomb. We gotta get that in now while we can.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Hopefully it's trademark. Exactly. With the intent to start a clothing line of the same name. And I just really struggle Randy yourself included and maybe as the poster child for this, the people who are still on board is like, God, I just ride for Phil Mickelson, man, I love that dude.
Starting point is 01:17:57 He's my guy. None of those people, to a man, none of those people should be wearing hats or shirts that say hit bombs. It just doesn't make any sense, and you really hate to see that. We even talk about the sunglasses, either. Which, a hundred, like, book it,
Starting point is 01:18:12 maybe our friends at Draft Games can help build a market on this. The sunglasses, there's some financial play with the sunglasses. It's gonna have to come out in a couple weeks. But you hate to see that. It feels like some people are really gonna get taken advantage of losing some of their hearted money for some ugly hit bomb shirts.
Starting point is 01:18:30 Moving on to the rub of the green segment. We can move through this quickly. Randy, well speaking of Mikkelson, I got rubbed of the green on Saturday. I was really excited. Of course he's in the lead going into the weekend. I know he's gonna be in the final group. Like this is gonna be cool.
Starting point is 01:18:47 I'm gonna watch golf Saturday afternoon, really excited for it for the first time in a while. I go out to my usual Saturday morning thing. I think I was at the coffee shop reading and I pull up the leaderboard. It's around noon, 12.30 maybe. I'm like, oh, cool. Like, let me see how if anybody's making an early move and little did I know they'd already
Starting point is 01:19:07 played the whole damn third round. Literally the first time here. And I saw Michelson shot 71 and it kind of just torpedoed my whole like excitement for Saturday. That's forever the great. That was a rubber the green ball build off that I really didn't have a good one. I was just going to say nothing more than the weather. And part of the weather, why I bring it up
Starting point is 01:19:27 is I'd like to get some more kind of standard week over week TV ratings. I'd like to kind of see, see how we're trending here because from everything I saw, it didn't really seem like the big, you know, the Schwab week was what, 2.6 million or something. I'm trying to remember that off top of my head. I could be wrong there, but heritage with a massive, massive weather delay was right around 2 million. And so I'm just curious how, you know, I'd like to get just a normal, a normal week, see how many people are watching golf in this whole, you know, there's no, there's no competition. These numbers are going to be massive. And I'm not totally sure that they are. Well, did you, I got good news for you.
Starting point is 01:20:06 You're probably getting an email in your inbox versus tomorrow morning from Jeff Syslinski from Golf Channel with the ratings in them. Well, we'll see. It definitely felt like things are kind of getting back to normal. At least for me personally too, of like the excitement of golf being back like third week is kind of like,
Starting point is 01:20:21 oh yeah, that's what it's like to watch golf on TV. So, uh, I do just to follow up on Randy's very similar experience. I'm on my way to furniture shop, which we had planned for Saturday morning and pull up my app and see that they have already teed off and are playing and realizing I'd booked six straight hours of furniture shopping and I missed the whole thing. But my rubber, the green of course would be with the tournament on the line. And of course, very little, you know, not much risk with DJTing it up on the 15th hole. Pulse three wood and yanks it dead towards the water. And it hits a very random strip of rough and plugs in the bank.
Starting point is 01:20:56 It doesn't plug in the bank. You actually could play it off the bank. The ball stayed up for DJ as twice. So in reality, well, in reality, it ended up kind of playing as if there would have, as a penalty, would have been a penalty. So it didn't end up really, you know, if they were playing a long game on you. He had an opportunity to, you know, expand the lead. He could have got that up and down in theory.
Starting point is 01:21:17 He could have chipped it on the green and made a play there. But that is the rubber of the green. That's all staying up. Trying to do you have a good one? No, really. My rub of the green was gonna be like rub of the green stuff of the money. All these guys got these COVID stipends.
Starting point is 01:21:32 Didn't we use that last week? No, last week. I'm doing it again, baby. All right, last. This is Trud's version of his own 66, 66. Exactly. Last thing, the soap box Sunday. Sully, I know you did yours already, Randy.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Kick us off. I was just gonna point out I'm coming back to Mikkelson. I firmly believe those were not joggers he was wearing today. I think they were just extremely tapered men's pants. They did not have the elastic cuff that you might have seen. I got a gentleman wearing joggers. I thought you did.
Starting point is 01:22:03 No, they didn't. I looked at a closeup. And from what I could tell, from what my research seemed to suggest, they were zipped. They had a very couple of inch zip at the very bottom of the pants, but there was no elastic cuff at the bottom.
Starting point is 01:22:17 Therefore, therefore I say no joggers. Well, that's good to let the record show. And they were just extremely tapered. Tron? Soap box Sunday. Special time for everyone. Gosh. Where should I go with this?
Starting point is 01:22:32 He's going to take a piss on a lot of things. I was going to talk about Will Gordon, but we already talked about Will Gordon. I was going to talk about Ryan Ruffles if he won. Obviously he didn't. I am going to talk about Thursday I am gonna talk about Thursday. I wish I'll talk about myself. Try and watch and tell us what happened.
Starting point is 01:22:50 Randy, why don't you tell us what happened about Thursday? I have two takes. I have an optimist take and a pessimist take, which I like. I want both of them. Let's start with the pessimist take. I think you've made the decision to go left handed as a money making decision whereby you have a severely reduced quota and it helps you win money in our Thursday game. That's the pass missed take. The optimist take is I was blown away by how quickly not only you broke a hundred but have shown rapid improvement and you shot a 93 on Thursday,
Starting point is 01:23:27 which was good enough for second place in our Thursday game. And so my hat's off to you. Thanks, Randy. I couldn't have said it any better. It's a triumph of the human's. And I will say, I'm playing golf. It's the third time I've ever played golf left handed. One follow-up question.
Starting point is 01:23:44 Are you were playing the green teas, which I believe are those the forward at Jack's Beach? No, they're one back. One back from the heart. They're senior teas. Are we considering moving back anytime soon? I've talked to my consultant, Panther Chris, Panther Mike's father, Chris Foley, up in Minnesota.
Starting point is 01:23:59 He said, you know what, Tron, let's wait till we break 90 before we move back to the whites, which I think the whites are around 6000. That's gonna be my kind of forever home, lefty. I'm not getting off the tee at all. I was really proud of myself. No speed whatsoever. I was in no bunkers.
Starting point is 01:24:16 I lost one golf ball and I didn't make anything higher than a double. Just like at the old course, exactly. Exactly. That's it. It is at the old course. Exactly. Exactly. It is indeed impressive. It's remarkable. Yeah, I'm worried I'm gonna,
Starting point is 01:24:31 Ian, I hadn't touched a club in two weeks. The remarkable things you made at 12 during the Letti Challenge video. Yeah, I also almost buried the first one. Tron, it was a truly inspirational week. And I think I speak for everyone when I say we can't wait to follow your progress. Thanks, David.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Keep it posted. I mean, it's a lot randy. Your words mean a ton. Thank you, Mark. You're welcome. I'll wrap actions inspired millions of generations if you're done pumping yourself. I will move on. So box on day, quick one for the shout out to the National Links Trust.
Starting point is 01:25:02 A lot of people were talking about this early in the week, but they got through the National Park Service, a contract to take over management of three Washington DC golf courses and also secured a bunch of investment to redesign them, to renovate them, whatever, you know, of course, restore them, whatever the, whatever the word is. Tom Doak will be doing restoring Walter Travis's reversible golf course at East Potomac. The Hans Golf Course design is doing Rock Creek Park, which is a William Flynn design and bow-welling. Of course, the architect for Mr. Cat will be doing Langston, which is a very historic
Starting point is 01:25:41 one there in DC. Shout out to all the people involved in that. I think we, Muni Golf is very close to all of our hearts and cool to see a massive project like that get off the ground. If you build it, they will come. Exactly. Would any time table on that out of curiosity? I don't know. I'm sure the shout out, of course, to Andy and the crew at the Fried Egg, they've been following that closely, that story closely for a couple of years now. And I think they're close. Yeah, sure amount years now. I think they're kind of the journalists of record on that story. So go to the Friday's website if you want to read more about that. I think that's all I got guys. Can I say one more thing?
Starting point is 01:26:15 I'm chipping it better than I ever had. That cannot be downplayed. You have to be if you were shooting 93 left. I'm flashing so hard right now, like flops. Anything inside of 50 yards, I'm putting in the five foot circle right now. The five foot circle. Yeah. I think you should be. I can't, I can't, I can't make the five footers.
Starting point is 01:26:36 That's the problem. I can't putt. But you get there. When will you break 80? Uh, the old course in April. Wow. If not before. You have it circled on the camera. Can you, can you avoid every 80? The old course in April. If not before that. You have it circled on the camera.
Starting point is 01:26:46 Can you avoid every bunker at the old course? Well, you can miss left all day at the old course. That's true. That's true. Interesting. Boys, that was a fun one. I haven't recovered from the Fox thing. Yeah, you've been shook for fun.
Starting point is 01:26:58 I'm genuinely flustered. I'm very upset. So let's really just end it with that. Cheers. very upset. So let's just end it with that. Cheers. That's better than most. How about in? That is better than most. Better than most.

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