No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 327: Rocket Mortgage Classic Recap

Episode Date: July 6, 2020

Bryson, Bryson, and some more Bryson. We discuss his dominate performance, what this means for the future of his career and the future of the game, and whether or not he's the best player in the world.... We also make fun of his asinine comments during the week (33:00), Matt Wolff's strong showing (38:30), and our usual segments (48:00).  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:29 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No-Lang Up Podcast. Sunday night here at a very, very steamy kill house, our air conditioning is not working. Might be a good metaphor for tonight's pod. Uh, DJ Pies here. Greetings. Hello. Big Randy is here. Hi, Solid.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Namaste. Your boy. I safely can say your boy, Bryson. Oh, boy. You called it back in like 2017 at the PGA. You said I'm in with big data. We got plenty to talk about with Bryson. Before we do that though, can you guys know about the play yellow campaign? I can literally say I know nothing about it. I'm about to learn you. You've heard us talk about the 2020 Coway Crumbs Off Golf Ball, Crumbs Off the X Golf Balls increased distance, great feel, the triple track alignment,
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Starting point is 00:02:24 walking through the time square, telling people that, you know, the end is nigh. You guys need to, uh, need to pay attention. This is, this is going to happen and it did. And I think it was honestly like the fact that he didn't win at colonial and harbour town is because they're colonial and harbour town. And they're kind of weirder different golf courses. That's kind of what we've been saying for a couple and many, many, many other people, of course, but, you know, kind of what a lot of people have been saying is, do you wait till we get to some of these golf courses where you can just kind of hit it all over the place and we'll get to much more about that. But yeah, they are who we thought they were.
Starting point is 00:02:56 The question that's at the top of everyone's mind and this comes from Joey Arnold on Twitter is, you drive it like Bryson, but you have to wear that stupid fucking hat. Twitter is, you drive it like Bryson, but you have to wear that stupid fucking hat. Do you do it? Absolutely not. But no, fuck no. No, we look for two very different things out of the game of golf and I don't not like golf enough to wear that stupid fucking hat. I don't either, but I would drive it like that.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Ranny would you? Of course I would. I'd wear it. If I could wear the hat backwards though, I would do it. Saviola Jacks like a, exactly. Or Bernie Mac perhaps. The hat's not the hard part for me. If I had to look like Bryson, I wouldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:03:31 He gets such a pass for the hat. Like he's got so much other stuff going on that people forget like, oh, that's right. Where's that dumb hat? And he's really slow. People forgot about that too. He took over two minutes to lie on up an eagle putt today. And he people have said he has sped up.
Starting point is 00:03:44 And I think we're probably seeing a lot more of him on camera when he's like in the final groups and all that stuff, but the reports have been that he has sped up a lot. I know there's been certain instances where not so much, but what helps when you just like eliminate most of the golf course with the T-Shop, and there's not much left of it to conquer. And to be fair, it's just taking fewer shots
Starting point is 00:04:01 than everybody. Where do you net out on all this, Randy? You know what, it looks like he's happy Gilmoring golf right now. It's completely game changing. I think, you know, I was thinking about, he's had runs of really good play in the past, right? Like, he's wanting back-to-back weeks, I believe, was it two years ago? And so I was thinking, you know, are we seeing a true change
Starting point is 00:04:26 or are we seeing a hot streak? And I don't know how anybody could come to the conclusion that this is something new. And, you know, I didn't even think he played that well this week until today. He lost a half stroke to the field with his approach play. And he gained a lot on the final shot. He was over a shot lost to the field with approach play.
Starting point is 00:04:48 And I think Justin Ray the stat, there's three winners out of the last, like, 655 that have won with a negative strokes approaching the green. He flooded his ass off. He hit at 367 yards on number 18, protecting a lead with water down the left. And that was 30 yards past where Wolf hit it.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Like, I joke like Jordan Spee should retire. I don't know why he needs, what is he after gain competing in this era, right? Like go retire, you'll be inducting into the Hall of Fame someday, you got a lot of money, like go live your life. It's, it's, who's gonna be left for you to watch? Brewery's dead, DJ's gonna die. Honestly, I think... It's speeds are tired now.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Like Bryson... Bryson Big Brother, Wolf today, it looked like. Oh yeah, absolutely. I think Matt was a little nervy. A little shook to start. Yeah. Like, oh, you hit it far, check this out. Like, one's the last time Wolf's...
Starting point is 00:05:40 Wolf probably has hit it farther than anybody, his whole life. Yeah. Up until last week and today he gets front, front row seat of it. Like that's got to be jarring for him. We did, they didn't play together. So it wasn't quite a front row seat. But he's looking ahead, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Which we'll talk about that later. I'm just completely, I'm, I'm all in. Something I said on Twitter, like if Bryson, there's so much personal, like hatred and annoyance of Bryson that I think it's clouded the fact that we truly are in what could be a historic time for PGA to our golf. I think that's extremely well said and very important. I think there's a lot of people that are conflating
Starting point is 00:06:18 how much they don't like him with what he's doing and not disrespecting it but just looking for reasons to poke holes in it and all that stuff. And of course, we're gonna have to see if his back doesn't explode in a couple of weeks, which might happen. All of those things, we gotta make sure
Starting point is 00:06:33 there's a little bit of longevity here, but yeah, to your point, I don't know how anybody can watch that today and not feel like you're watching the varsity take on the JV. It's unbelievable. It's maybe a lazy analogy, but it reminds, and I think somebody tweeted this a couple weeks ago, or something, is like the whatever the maxed out guy is
Starting point is 00:06:50 on Tiger Woods, PGA Tour, the space suit, golfer with all the attributes. It looks like that. The iron approaches or wedge approaches he has into these holes look like he hit a drive under a tree then had to punch out to like 65 yards, and then as a pro, that doesn't look like where you should be hitting a t-shot on any of these holes. It looks, that's what it hit me today. It's just like this is broken, like this is wrong.
Starting point is 00:07:12 This should not be, not for price and sake. He should be doing this. He clearly has figured out the path to the most success is going to be to play like this and he's just learning how to do it. I think honestly, we are barely even scratching the surface from him. I think he should 100% reconsider this six iron length. He is a totally different player now. He is requiring way more way different skills. And he is going to be hitting wedges into 80 plus percent night, 95% of par fours, I think from here on out. So I think you should be the last person that was the exciting length.
Starting point is 00:07:46 I think Andy Johnson, I think had a stat that his average length into par fours was like 103 yards or 104 yards, something like that on the PGA tour. And he's hitting like, well, the second par five today, he hit an eight iron to like 238 yards of the pin. Out of the rough, he hit an eight iron. Like that's, that's so stupid.
Starting point is 00:08:06 If I was to tell you he hit a 344 yard drive this week, what would your reaction to that be? I would say that he averaged, I think, 350 or so on there, right? Because he hit 21 drives longer than the 344. That was his 22nd longest drive of the week. So I wanna dig in on a couple of different things, a couple of the different naysayer things.
Starting point is 00:08:27 One, I think there's going to be a fallacy of, oh my God, he's just swinging as hard as he can, he's blowing it all over the planet. I don't think that's true. I think he's driving it straighter than a lot of people are going to give him credit for and a lot of the the purists who are going to, you know, lament that he's ruining the game, which maybe he is
Starting point is 00:08:43 and we can talk about that later. But a lot of people are going to say, oh, he's just, he's complete bombing gouge and he's ruining the game, which maybe he is, and we can talk about that later. But a lot of people are gonna say, oh, he's just, he's complete, bomb and gouge, and he's just blown it all over the place. I don't think that's true. I think he's driving it pretty fucking straight for how far he's hitting it. And B, when he was missing,
Starting point is 00:08:55 he was always missing on the right side, or like where he had, like he was, he had to punch out a couple times, but he always had an opening to the green, or he always had, you know what I mean? It wasn't ever dead. Jammed way over on the right, and there's a little runway to, he always had an opening to the green or he always had, you know, I mean, if it was an end jammed way over on the right and there's a little runway to he would miss on the left or the golf courses that's like at Hilton head, he's jamming it between like property boundaries, right?
Starting point is 00:09:15 You go to Detroit golf club and there's holes on the other side. Like that is where you can swing it. Exactly. And that was going to be the other thing is when he can't, when it doesn't, when it didn't do him a service to get really, really close to the green, he had no problem like laying back and taking less than driver and doing that stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:30 And so that's what I think a lot of people were saying about, you know, the majors, like, oh, this just isn't gonna translate to the majors. There's no way that this is gonna work. It's like, he doesn't, he's not an idiot. Like, he's very far from an idiot. That's like the whole point is, he's gonna know, like, dude, I don't have to bomb driver everywhere. And that's what I think we see with, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:47 someone like Dustin Johnson when he goes to a shorter golf course or whatever he knows, like, I can just hit this two iron all over the place. I think Bryson's going to figure that out too. And like the par-fives where he can swing from his heels, he's going to do that and they're par-fours. Like, that's where we always come back to, a par 72 golf course is not a part. It's a par 68 and if you can turn these majors into par 66 golf courses or even par 68 and shoot two three four under every day, like he's gonna win. Yeah. That's it.
Starting point is 00:10:16 It's crazy. This was a perfect course too because you could run the ball up to every green. Yeah. So they made a point. I thought that was a fantastic point, right? Like when he was out of position under a tree, he could play those low shots that would just run up onto the green. Yeah. So they made a point. I thought that was a fantastic point, right? Like, when he was out of position under a tree, he could play those low shots that would just run up onto the green. He was decidedly not a second shot golf course. Exactly. So that won't be the case every week, but yeah, it's just, I don't know, we've said it. I feel like we're repeating ourselves,
Starting point is 00:10:39 but his floor is just, he has raised his floor unbelievably to where can I ask this is Bryson the best player in the world. I think right now for sure. I mean, he's finished in the top 10 to eight weeks in a row or something like that. Like, yeah, I mean, I, I know he's not going to rank there in the official world golf rankings and all that, but I'm just asking do you consider? I think anyone can define that. Like, if you told me he's not, I would believe you as well if you had good reason too.
Starting point is 00:11:05 But I would say he's the best part in the world right now. I think it is situation dependent. It's not going to, it's not going to work at every golf. Well, and I think that this kind of speaks to one thing that, this is going to be my second thing that is going to be overlooked here is just how well he put it. Like, number one. I think, yeah, I mean, that's the big thing that we should, it should kind of be the headline this week is, you know, the headline will of course be like,
Starting point is 00:11:25 Bryson Bludgeon's Detroit Golf Club to death, but really he didn't. I mean, he gained six point six shots with the driver and seven point eight shots with the putter. So it's like, I mean, he just, he was literally number one in putting this week. And even that is a whole, like, everything you bring up with Bryson,
Starting point is 00:11:41 I feel like it's just a complete, like, tributary side conversation that we can go down. But even the way he puts is fascinating to me. I was talking to somebody about it earlier and it's like to someone like me putting, and I think probably a lot of players, like putting seems so almost like subconscious. When you're really putting, of course, you need to know the line. Of course, you need to have the technical skills, but when you're really, really putting
Starting point is 00:12:03 well, you're feeling the ball in the hole and you're just kind of seeing it go in. That doesn't look like what he's doing at all. I mean, he's grinding on the green's books and he's like, I don't know if it was before or after CBS came on. I forget which network it was that had the audio, but I think it was one of the, it was a second hole, I think, when Bryson missed the green short right and he's going through the calculations with Tim Tucker's, Cady, and like, I don, when Bryson missed the green short right, and he's going through the calculations
Starting point is 00:12:25 with Tim Tucker's, Cady, and like, I don't even know what the hell he's talking about, but he's 73 plus up, it's up four plus this. 73 times three is gonna be this, blah, blah, blah, and he's just trying to figure out like, lag speed and all that stuff. And it's like the most mechanical thing ever, but then he goes and he puts better
Starting point is 00:12:41 than anybody else in the world this week. It's unreal. He said too, he'd left so many like in the heart short. Oh yeah. Like he could have made, three or four more puts that I met, just like specifically in the back nine today. And that, that to me is like kind of the third pillar
Starting point is 00:12:55 of Bryson is gonna be the wedges and I'm sure we'll get into a lot more of that too, but I feel like he's gonna drive it. Like driving doesn't really seem like something that kind of fluctuates wildly the way pudding does. You know, it seems like Rory is gonna, you pretty much know Rory's gonna drive it well all every week.
Starting point is 00:13:11 You pretty much know Dustin's gonna drive it well every week. And I think Bryson's probably in that same category. And even with like his wedges, it mid-bad the last month. I think so. And he's contended at like every event. And I feel like it's gonna be the potter. It's gonna be the thing where if he makes a ton of putts like then I don't know how anybody else is really going to have a shot. I think you'll have off weeks with the driver. I think he's driven it very well since he's been back. I think I mean it's
Starting point is 00:13:35 just that's just math of like if you're going to hit that far do you like there's going to be yeah it's going to start to turn on you some but I definitely definitely think he's going to improve with his iron play and his approach play. I think the thing to mention too with Bryson, I think his personality... Punchable. ...is punchable and leads people to not appreciate maybe what they're seeing for sure. But I want to say, this isn't the length that's turned him into a great player, but he was a damn good player before all. For sure. And like he has crazy good pedigree.
Starting point is 00:14:09 And so it's not like, he's not some like freak or like, this isn't a fly by night guy that, you know, was riding a hot like that's what I come back to. It was like to to your point, I it's hard not to think of him as the best player in the world right now. And I don't know. I don't know. I don't see how that really changes over a course of a season two years.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Like this got me more wins on the PGA Tour than Hedecki. Hedecki's two years older than him too. And of course, of course he passes Ricky. He's now officially the alpha in the book. Which is tough. Gober is stable. Which is tough for Ricky because Detroit, I know, has a special alpha in the book. Which is tough. Gober is stable. Which is tough for Ricky. Cause Detroit, I know, has a special place in his heart. But then I like, he played with Ryan Armour today and we'll go into some of the other people.
Starting point is 00:14:50 But it's just like to Ryan Armour is playing antiquated golf like that. That's shit ain't gonna work. I was actually trying. I think I'm pretty sure I'd have to check the staff. But I think Ryan Armour finished 21st on the 1981 PGA Tour money list. It's kind of the vibe that he gives off, which is sick. And that's, but no, I mean, good for him, but like, that's, I think that's over, man.
Starting point is 00:15:10 You see Wolfen, D-Shambo, what they did today, it's like, oh no dude, like, like that's, that's where the game's going. And like every year there's gonna be about 10 more guys like that graduate. Like imagine the 12, 13 year olds watching those guys they, yeah, it's just that's where the game's going. Well, and Bryson had a great quote about this afterwards.
Starting point is 00:15:29 And I think there's a lot of, every time someone shares a Bryson quote and a lot of them are very eye-roly and very punchable as, you know, to borrow a phrase. But a lot of them are also really smart. And I think he's right about this one that I think Will Gray tweeted at that. He was basically like, it's gonna take a generation. For this to really take hold,
Starting point is 00:15:52 there's gonna take a generation. Because to your exact point, Randy, it's not like everybody can just drop what they're doing. And like, okay, cool. I'm just gonna hit the gym for three months. And then I'll do that. People will work out more and all that stuff, but they already kind of are. To your point, you always bring up solid. How many guys have wrecked
Starting point is 00:16:10 their careers trying to chase distance and trying to do exactly what he's done? It's not something that really I can think of anybody who's done something similar to this. But I think if you're starting when you're 12, 13 and you're seeing, oh my God, I need to nuke the ball. It really will change and just how you develop your skills, right? And so I think, until what I'm getting at with all that is there is gonna be a large long gap where, like, gap, Bryson might be the man for a while.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Assuming his body holds up. I don't think anybody else could have done this. I think we've said this in previous weeks, no one has the capability to transform their game and swing and has the commitment and willingness to do it like Bryson does. I mean, he has figured out his own shit, his whole life. Like, I don't think Brooks Kepp could go into the gym and, you know, eat a million protein shakes and drive the ball like Bryson does.
Starting point is 00:16:58 I agree with you. And I think that's what goes back to, you know, the list of guys, it's not to be all end all, but he won a USM and an NCAA in the same year. And the list of guys to do that are what, Jack, Tiger and Phil and Bryson, I think so. And so you take one of those guys and then you like, you know, it's one of those guys that's experimenting now. Like that's the pedigree. It's not some guy out there trying to lift and chase it. Like it's, it's a guy who's really fucking good anyway is doing it.
Starting point is 00:17:34 He's not just a dumb meathead. Yeah. That's to your point. Which that's the crazy is it could have just totally blown up in his face. Yeah. If it didn't work, that's what he's saying before. He's not done either. Well, on this note, and I believe I'll turn it over to DJ here for a second if you'd like to gloat. DraftKings has brought their expertise to legal sports betting. It's not quite legal yet here in Florida. We do a pick show on our Twitter
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Starting point is 00:20:08 I didn't think we'd get through the first, the first ad break with it. Will Knights ask a great question? How will I explain this to my future kids? But yeah, Jacob Bellas, how does Bryson's gameplay overseas for open championships presented by our majesty and future rider cups. We touched on that sum, but like the old course, if it's even remotely firm, it's going to be a complete joke for him. Well, I just, I don't think part 65. I think that that's going to be awesome to see, though, because that course can leave you
Starting point is 00:20:39 in some funky spots with 65 yards. Like I recorded that 2000, British Open from Tiger, you know, it was on Golf Channel I recorded it. And I just started watching some of it. And Tiger hits this drive on six, and he hits it into the walkway. He's got 48 yards into it and he puts it. And he four puts in the fairway, but I was like, dude, that's the kind of,
Starting point is 00:20:59 like the only chance golf has is having weird shots. You know, if the ball's gonna go this far, it needs to be really weird shots from these weird spots that these guys are driving it in. Well, I think to your point, Randy, like, I think my gut reaction on like a British open question would be not that, you know, that style of play is going to, let me say it this way, that style of play is going to let a lot more players in, but I don't think it's not going to make Bryson worse.
Starting point is 00:21:24 I don't think, you know what I mean? Because I think he has, like you're saying, he has the pedigree to let a lot more players in, but I don't think it's not going to make Bryson worse. I don't think. You know what I mean? Because I think he has, like you're saying, he has the pedigree to be a really, really good player and he knows he has a lot of different tools rather than just bludgeoning the golf ball. But now also he can bludge in the golf ball. You know what I mean? And that's where that's how I keep looking at the majors is like, yes, when the golf
Starting point is 00:21:40 course is firmer and when the rough is up, like that is going to let a lot more guys in and it's going to make it harder for him to win but it's not gonna make him worse. Like he's still gonna, you know, he's still doing a lot of really good things. And I think not only overseas, I think the majors are, I think it's fair to wanna see it in the majors from them now.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Right, like, I've kind of seen enough week to week on the tour, return to golf obviously, but now it's like, okay, it's time to have some results in majors. And so I think that's what I'm most looking forward to in the remainder of this year and going forward. I can see a British open where it's really windy, you know, causing him some problems. It seems like he hits the ball. Yeah. Really high, but you know, that's, you could say that about more than half the field. You know, like that's not a him problem specifically. Another question we got was from Josh White.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Is Bryson just home run swinging in baseball and three point pointers in basketball just playing what the math says? Like both of those games have changed a lot in recent years. Yeah, I think so, right? I think the three point analogies fought on. And I thought about that with distance for a long time of like, yeah, it's going to, like, it just homogenizes the game. And it loses some love for it and some art to it.
Starting point is 00:22:55 It's like really hard to explain what is meant by that without sounding super high-minded. But yeah, gosh, it's not going to be that fun if it, if everyone's driving it far as anyone driving it far. Well, let me ask it this way. I mean, is if he goes off and rattles off, you know, X number of wins and a couple majors over the next few years, like, listen, we saw what happened with the anchoring band when Keegan Bradley won a major and like, I'm dead serious. Like when these guys hate optics and they hate, they hate seeing great golf courses being brought down on national TV and looking stupid.
Starting point is 00:23:29 And Bryson's making them being the USGA and making them look really dumb. Really dumb? Really dumb. And that's where to Will Knight's question, how do I explain this to my kids? Well, let me talk to you about regulation, what happens with the downstream effect
Starting point is 00:23:43 of not doing anything. Because that's what it is. I don't think if he's playing a smaller head a driver of golf ball that spins more and I don't think he's swinging like that. Yeah, exactly. And TBC Jed, of course, Jed Ramel asks, what would happen if the USGA governed the game as aggressively as the PGA tour protects its media image? I think that's a good transition.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Is that a good transition? No, let me, like, what do you guys think? Like, is this something that's going to expedite the, you know, I know this is a massive question, but like, is that is something like this? Is this the only thing that might expedite? Yes. Like the equipment change. I don't know if it's the only thing, but it's certainly a thing that could like, the USGA would not have came out with their statement before all this hit, if they weren't gonna change anything. Maybe I'm giving them too much credit, but it sounded for the first time very clear that it's like no, no, we recognize there's an issue here.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Bryson doing this can only expand that. Which I think. Honestly, I mean, maybe the first person all week to say this, maybe the only person to say this, I kind of feel bad for Bryson in that instance. That sucks because he kind of found the hole and... He'll figure something else out. Well, yes.
Starting point is 00:24:51 It's similar to when courses started tiger proofing, right? That's it. You know, we mentioned St. Andrews, but tiger was shot 19 under there in 2000. Like if Bryson goes there in a couple of years and shoots 25, 26 under, 30 under. I think that will cause the RNA. And I think that is something that is gonna make a lot of people take notice like whoa.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Like this course simply cannot hold up. Yeah. When they started, you know, they put a T-box out of bounds that I think they kind of, if that wasn't the sign for them of like, hey, whoa, something's not right here then I don't know what will be maybe it's that. I think a hard one too will be like You know, everybody talks about all these great links courses and like oh, you got to control your runouts and all these bunkers that'll just sneak up and grab you and like as soon as Bryson steps up there and says like what bunkers like
Starting point is 00:25:44 What are you talking about? He cleared the loop. I just flew all of them. Like, yeah, that some of the magic's gone. He cleared the bunker on 18. That teach I cleared it by 57 yards. I have landing 57 yards over the bunker. He cleared it by, another one by 64 this week.
Starting point is 00:25:58 I just was digging into the stats a little bit. And so what a Bryson to have 90 yards or something into 18. 98. Kevin Kizner, obviously not a long hitter, but you know, finish third, I think this week is average on that whole was like 171 into it. And it's just it's a different game. And check it out like he didn't even his wedges good. Right. And he won by what three two he won by three.
Starting point is 00:26:24 He won by three. Last thing I wanted to know was he had 137 miles an hour swing speed on the radar guns week, which some of the radar guns on the clubhead speed can be a bit finicky, but that's what it said. Also, him flexing on Troy Merritt and making him go first on 13 because he wanted to wait for the green clear on a 400 yard par four was the best.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Troy got backed out. That word there. That word, so tough. Yeah, you're fine a 400 yard par four was the best. Troy got backed out. That was so tough. Like, yeah, you're fine. You could probably go. I mean, you could, yeah, why don't you go? You're not going to get there, right? Yeah, we're going to be waiting a little while. Why don't you go?
Starting point is 00:26:54 That was that hit home for me really, really, really hard. That's usually the only time I teal first in our games. But if I was Troy Marriott, by the way, like, you got to stand up for yourself. Like, no, like, oh, we're not going anywhere. Stay away. What for the sanctity of the game, too? Well, there's that, you know?
Starting point is 00:27:11 He also missed the green by 70, like, eight yards, which was awesome, and I can relate to waiting for a green to clear and not even coming close. He hit it well, though. He crawled it. He crawled it. Oh, he hit it. And again, there was another one where he, like,
Starting point is 00:27:23 missed in the right side. He could run one right up the shoot. Mm. I think he made Bernie there, right? He made Paarl now. Two Paarl, but yeah. Made Bernie the next one. Anyways.
Starting point is 00:27:31 You said is it, is it, like it's, it's numbers. He's gonna, he's scienceing the game and that's what he told us he would do. And I don't think anybody should be surprised. And maybe this would be our transition into the, the cameraman conversation. Do we want to break and do Wolf? And then we can go back into Bryson,
Starting point is 00:27:47 because we're worth. Let's keep it up. Let's keep it up. I got my train of thought going here. I want to be very clear that like this has been a glowing pro Bryson's process podcast thus far. And I still stand by all of that. Bryson, the guy,
Starting point is 00:28:02 okay, yes, that we're awfully hard to cheer for. Like, I don't, I don't want him to win. I kind of, I guess I kind of want him to win just for the chaos and maybe like the distance roll back. And like that kind of, that side of me wants him to win, but like I don't ever, you got to be able to separate those two things.
Starting point is 00:28:17 I guess what I'm saying, just because we're talking about Bryson a lot, it doesn't mean we're like, oh, go Bryson, this is so fun. Like no, it's, it's like ruining the game, for sure. It's, but it's like, it's pretty entertaining. It's an interesting conversation. I love chaos agents, so I think I'm naturally drawn to him.
Starting point is 00:28:34 There are people that great me, there are personalities that rub me the wrong way. His does not do that to me, so I fully understand why it does to some people. He doesn't rub me the wrong way. He doesn't. He really doesn't. And I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Do you think he's like earnest or what? I just think he's... What, why does he get into bad rap on? And I don't even know if he's like, I can't tell you how to feel. If he rubs you the wrong way, he rubs you the wrong way. So I don't think it's like an objective. But subjectively, I can tell you,
Starting point is 00:29:01 he doesn't bother me. Like, even the camera, we can get into this. But so I'm here to say, I actually kind of do root for him. And I think, I think he's, again, the chaos and the anarchy and just like, just gumming up this whole system. I love it. I live for it. And I think that far outweighs, you know, yeah, does he?
Starting point is 00:29:21 Sometimes wine and like, yeah, but I don't care. The hat is stupid though. You could. That's stupid. But it's like, it's like, like, why not, you know? But I do want to ask. I think some of it, I think some of why he sticks out is a result of the class acts tour.
Starting point is 00:29:38 And like, there are dicks in professional sports. And I think where golf, like like he stands out more so and golf is because they try to whitewash and paint everybody and it's this like vanilla everybody's just like so dull. And so you get a little off kilter and again, it's like, it's fair, he does rub people the wrong way. But do we talk about people's personality that much in like the NBA or Major League Baseball or?
Starting point is 00:30:09 Like I guess there are discussions like that, but it's like, yeah, at the end of the day, it's like, it's no big deal. It's like what part of makes it fun. I think, so that's where I come from is. That's really interesting. I feel like in other sports, maybe there's almost like buckets
Starting point is 00:30:24 that guys get put in, right? Where it's like, there's like the stone cold, like steely guy, there's like the happy-go-lucky guy, and there's, you know, like the, like the Winnardall cost guy. It's maybe that's kind of the first one. But in golf, there's really like not, right? Like there's kind of, I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:30:41 That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. And then it's like, I don't know, we don't really know what to do with you. You're supposed to just kind of be the class act. Exactly. So I'm not saying you have to like, or I'm not saying you can't be offended by Bryson,
Starting point is 00:30:52 but I think like what makes Kobe Bryant, right? It was a great example. How he, you know, the people who were Kobe fans were such diehard Kobe fans. And if you didn't like Kobe, like, you know, the jaw and the, like that stuff came across very in a way that was like, oh my God, it's cheesy
Starting point is 00:31:10 and he's just overdoing it. And, and you know what, at the end of the day, like that's what makes sports fun is having those discussions and those arguments with fans. And I feel like I don't want us to force Bryce and to change because he's just like a little different from everybody else. Like I want him to be weird and I want him to piss people off because I think that's fun.
Starting point is 00:31:30 I think that's good. 100% agree. Like it is not, and I say that thing, like he's allowed to piss you off and you're allowed to not like him. For sure. I am very in on, like all how often he speaks his mind and we'll tell you exactly what he thinks and give you all of this
Starting point is 00:31:47 Throw it all out at you that does not mean you have to like it So I'm not not fault I don't want him to fall back into a box and be neat and you know Buttoned up and all this stuff like that. It boars the hell out of me and the only thing I would add is he can't have it both ways either Yeah, like I think aiman Lynch pointed that he wrote, he pretty much, yeah, just flamethrowered him. He ended him. And he called him for golf week this morning, or yesterday, but he, you know, his point was basically
Starting point is 00:32:17 this guy who wrote, you know, did this 15 minute masturbatory Instagram video, my word, not his, about himself working out and watching Fox News and painting the house and watching his car. Like he can also then be like, guys, I just need some privacy, man. Like you gotta, come on. Like so I'm with you and I,
Starting point is 00:32:37 in no way saying like, Bryson, you're wrong and you need to shut up. You shouldn't have, you should be thankful for your platform. Like no, keep going off. But like, yeah, people are probably gonna make fun of you and like send you bad tweets and, you know, you gotta be okay with that too.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Let's cover what happened with the actual cameraman just here and this was Will Gray, which again, Brennan Portath was pointing this out too of like this whole story came about because Will Gray was there and asked, went up and asked Bryson about it. And it seems, you know, obviously we're in a very weird time when it comes from media coverage,
Starting point is 00:33:09 but it seems like the tour seems to want to be trending away from outside media coverage. And this story came because a golf channel reporter's out there working his ass off for this. But the quote he got from Bryson about this cameraman was he was literally watching me, the whole entire way up after getting out of the bunker,
Starting point is 00:33:27 walking up next to the green, and I was just like, sir, what does the need to watch me that long? I mean, I understand it's his job to video me, but at the same point, I think we need to start protecting our players out here compared to showing a potential vulnerability and hurting someone's image. I just don't think that's necessarily the right thing to do. And then later on, he would say,
Starting point is 00:33:47 as much as we're out here performing, I think it's necessary that we have our times of privacy as well when things aren't going our way. I mean, we're in the spotlight, but if anybody else is in the spotlight, they wouldn't want that either. I feel like when you're videoing someone
Starting point is 00:34:01 and you catch Tiger at a bad time, you show them accidentally doing something or someone else, they're just frustrated because they really care about the game. It could hurt someone and you catch Tiger at a bad time, you show them accidentally doing something, or someone else, they're just frustrated because they really care about the game. It could hurt them if you catch them at a vulnerable time. We don't mean anything by it, we just care a lot about the game.
Starting point is 00:34:13 For that, to damage our brand like that, that's not cool in the way we act, because if you actually meet me in person, I'm not too bad of a dude, I don't think. Which was Amon's, I think Amon's lead was anytime someone tells you how good of a guy they are.'t think, which was Amon's, I think Amon's lead was any time someone tells you how good of a guy they are. That's, that's, that's, listen, can I say something unequivocally
Starting point is 00:34:30 that is a horrendous take? I don't, I don't want people to misconstruely like, I agree, like that's a stupid take. And I hope, I hope people close to them have told them it's a stupid take. Like, yo, you want the money? You want to like be considered an athlete or whatever? Like, that's the best.
Starting point is 00:34:48 That's the territory. I understand it's your job to video me, but why are you videoing me, bro? Inside the ropes, competing in a professional sporting event. Like, at what point do we stop considering these things, professional sporting events? That dude, here, here. Now, I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:35:03 I think there's a couple of things. One, it made me even more appreciative of the cat who deals with the minimum, I would a minimum 10x of this literally every day of his life for the last 25 years. And is always, he almost always speaks after rounds to the media. He almost, like he's, he takes a lot of that in stride
Starting point is 00:35:24 and it's kind of funny to see media, he almost, like he takes a lot of that in stride and it's kind of funny to see it bubbling up with Bryce and after a month of press here. You say Tiger and I'll throw out Mikkelson too. Who's gone about it in a slightly different way than Tiger, but in his own way, he's handled that same limelight between the ropes with a plum. And part two would be just to underscore
Starting point is 00:35:44 that it is a dump take. Like you said, yeah, the whole idea of like, I just don't want this camera to like catch a very literal, capture of exactly what's going on because that might be unfair is. Like yeah, maybe just don't, don't proceed a Kim lit up on fire on Twitter too, which is delightful.
Starting point is 00:36:03 But, like yeah, maybe just don't be an asshole, man. Like that's on you. Or the cameraman or being at like, you could look at it in another way, getting back to class X who is that mindset has what decades holding golf now. Exactly. Right. Like for him to even think that way is is is born of the PGA like covering well and presenting their sport in a certain way.
Starting point is 00:36:23 The gold standard to use a pun of this would be like the John Rom thing at the players a couple years ago when Rom gets pissed after with his caddy after this bad shot and it's just like such a very human like revelation of like, oh man, these guys really get upset and like they're in the heat of competition. Of course, like that's just stuff that gets taken down and of course, it's just kind of emboldens not every player. Of course, like not everybody thinks this way. But yeah, I can see why a player would be like, Hey, what the hell? You weren't supposed to do that. You're supposed to protect me. Really? No, we're supposed to put on a good TV product and get you paid. That's where our obligation should end.
Starting point is 00:37:00 I am so sick of the golf fan feeling like being willfully ignored in this. And I think everyone's kind of rallied around this, but the fact that Bryson could potentially like play a player even thinks this way is like, you are there to entertain us whether you believe it or not. This whole world exists because people are willing to put up dollars to be entertained by this. Okay. So you can't sit there and say, like, protect our brand. Are you fucking kidding me? I was so visibly upset.
Starting point is 00:37:28 And maybe a little drunk when I read that that half of last night. I got so worked up. It was how, it seems intentional that going that far out of your way to say something so dumb. You gotta wake up the next day and be like, you know what, I was off on that one.
Starting point is 00:37:41 I understand exactly, you know, we're here for entertainment purposes. And you didn't even do anything that bad. It's like, you get upset after a bad shot. Who doesn't get upset after a bad shot? Tigers, but throwing clubs, his whole career. It's not that big of a deal. I understand that he just loves the game so much.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Well, for smart guys, it's just a very myopic dumb reasoning too, right? Like I think to what we've been saying is fans, like the outbursts and the anger and the like that humanizes guys. Like if anything, I think it makes me more invested in certain guys. And so for them not to realize that, for Bryson not to realize that is a little concerning and for the tour to, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:38:27 I'm beating a dead horse, but it's just the class X tour is all BS. We rate a cover Matthew Wolf yet. Yeah, so let's, I don't know where to even start. What, let me, let me start with the expectations. Disappointed, are you, is this, what did you guys see today? Sorry. Three shot lead coming into Final Round. He got, I didn't feel great about it going into it. I think there was no way today was going any other way than it did. It could have
Starting point is 00:38:57 very easily. After one, what do you think after one? I thought like that was the first hole was the, like, okay, that didn't look great. It just looked like he didn't play great and then it's just some I swear this is a dumb theory. I have engulfed but it's like some days when you need it to go 110 yards, it goes 110 yards and some days it goes 102 and it felt like I they had a wedge into one of the holes that just got caught up on the front French and I was just and he could have confused by it and I was just like I just didn't feel like your day. He made four bogeys in the first 10 holes. And he came back. He laid his ass off.
Starting point is 00:39:28 He looked like he totally freed up and looked like that dude that lit the amateur world on fire and was just out there trying to drop as many birdies as possible. And I think that is probably what he, I didn't get to see a ton of it, but what he rode to the top of the leaderboard through three rounds. And then coming out that front nine with a little more pressure on you. It showed and that's my take on that is it's extremely understandable for someone that is 21 years old should be going into their senior year of college and we're watching them, you know, try to try to win on the PGA tour. And then he has done that, which I think is, you know, a lot of people have been, I don't want to say criticized, but critiqued his pro record
Starting point is 00:40:04 so far, which is understandable. If you said at the beginning, when he turned pro, that by mid-next summer, he would have a win on the PGA tour. I think everyone would look at that as a very strong performance. Yeah. I mean, I think what was the stat if he would have won today? It would have been the youngest two-time winner since Tiger Woods. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Is that good? Which is D's? Yeah. Yeah. It'd be different if I thought he was going to be a consistent week to week player coming out. And I definitely didn't, and nobody should have expected that from him at ages 20 and 21. I do, I think he can turn into a much more consistent player. Of course, I still think he's kind of winging it out there free swinging it and has a ton to learn on distance control and how to, you know, attack pins on the PGA tour, 100%.
Starting point is 00:40:46 And I think this was probably a great learning experience for him. And his interview afterwards was, are those great, it was super positive. He's like, I think for TV purposes, you can look at a guy with a three shot lead going to the last round and they present it as if they're expected to hold that lead. And a reality in golf that is not that big of a lead. It might look like it on the scoreboard.
Starting point is 00:41:08 And with four holes left, three shots, a big lead, both 18 holes left, so much can happen. Well, especially in Bryson happened, especially coming in and no top 10s, since he won and leading the field in Stroke's Game Pudding. T3 is the Taylor made relief driving check. True. I forgot about that. But yeah, no top 10s and then also leading the field and putting that week is like a dubious combo,
Starting point is 00:41:31 I feel like where it's like, ah, well, what if they don't go in? Yes. They're probably due to not go in versus Bryson who's finished top 10 every time he teased it up. But I think a very armchair psychology here, but also like you said, he's 21. He's trying to figure out how to travel.
Starting point is 00:41:48 He's trying to figure out, like, I think he's changed caddies a couple times. He's probably trying to figure out golf swing, golf courses, all that. Like, yeah, it's, I think he's on the bag today. He should have, yeah, exactly. I think the more interesting conversation,
Starting point is 00:42:02 of course, he's disappointed. And I thought he showed resiliency on the back nine today. I was impressed with that. He got, he was on the tracks with a freight train bearing down on him though. I didn't think the more interesting conversation is around his whole career thus far.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Tron said something I hope you don't mind me sharing it, but just like, you know, I feel a little disappointed with Wolf's career performance today, right? Like he had the win, which I think probably still cover, like you have to consider everything a success because of that win. But I think this is his second top 10, right? Aside from the win.
Starting point is 00:42:39 So it's, I think that's more of an interesting conversation. Where my mind, I don't know why I thought of this, but I went to a baseball comparison with him and somebody, I don't even know if this nearest little really, know the name, hopefully, Solid Will, like a guy like Joey Gallo who's this new age uber prospect and he gets to the league young and he's kind of a boomer bus guy, right? High strikeout, high walk, high power.
Starting point is 00:43:04 And I feel like that's, for me, that's the type of player Matthewer bus guy, right? High strikeout, high walk, high power. And I feel like that's for me, that's the type of player Matthew Wolf seems to be right now. Yes. It'll click maybe once or twice a year and he certainly can win on those weeks and there's going to be a lot of swings and misses though. Oh, 100%. I mean, I think that I will not critique the golf swing at all, but I don't think that golf swing is set up to be the most consistent game on the PGA tour weekend week out. I think he understands that is fine with that. You can have a very successful career on the PGA tour being a boomer bus guy. You know, Joe Gallo was also also known as crazy Joe was a member of the Colombo Crime family, which I knew I'd heard that name before, but not at a baseball context.
Starting point is 00:43:43 That's sick. Well, and I think, solid, I think that paints, that crystallizes the comparison to Bryson, even clear in that. Like, check it out. This guy Bryson, he's hitting a 30 past June, and check it out, he's way more consistent. And that, that more, it just hit me when you were saying that, I was like, oh shit, like, yeah, like Bryson's like all of that plus some yards plus like all
Starting point is 00:44:10 the consistency. Yeah. To that, I would say plus the putting at Wolfs at Wolfs age, Bryson was still yet to win the USM and win the NCAA title. That was happening the next year. And Bryson, you know, didn't turn pro. He was 22 or 23 when he turned pro. Yeah, he was late. And so that's where these guys, it's like, and people are gonna be all over Okshay Batia too if he doesn't have success in professional golf very soon. But I don't think it's necessarily,
Starting point is 00:44:37 it's definitely not, their career should not be defined by their first few years, especially when I would consider that time to be the time they should be in college, right? So if they came out as, you know, if he had played in just as an amateur to this point and had won a PGA Tour event as an amateur, we would probably view him totally different than,
Starting point is 00:44:56 just because the fact that he had turned professional. Like if he had this kind of ish record in events playing as an amateur at this age, we wouldn't view him the same way. Yeah, in the post-tiger world though, it's like you just want to put your hopes on people. Sure. And I think if nothing else, it's like there's that little bit of disappointment that, you know, Wolf's maybe not going to be one of the old time great. And like that's totally unfair to him. But I think that's some like a little bit of what people are feeling.
Starting point is 00:45:25 I don't know, I'd love to know what you guys think a good career comp for Matthew Wolf would be, like a best case worst case. I don't have a good feel for that. Usually I like those questions. I don't, yeah, that is a good one. I get John Daly, two majors.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Mine is all the extra curriculars. Oh yeah, mine is all the- They were comparing John Daly, two major. Mine is all the extra curriculars. Yeah, mine is all the... They were comparing John Daly, bracing to John Daly on PGA Tour Radio, which was kind of sick comp. What do you think about it? Yeah, I'm going to have to give back to you. That's a good one. I don't have one on top of it.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Do you have one? I struggle with that is why, you know, I feel like so many of these young guys, like we can say, SungJam jam's gonna make 50 million bucks on tour, like I really don't know what's gonna come with Matthew Wolf's career. I definitely think it's too early to tell. If you don't think he's gonna work out, you're probably, I would definitely disagree with that
Starting point is 00:46:16 at this point because if you've showed that much success on the PGA tour, it's not consistent week to week, but if you have shown that ability to win and come very close to winning a tour event, a little super freak is the only guy to beat you this week. Yeah, it's a good sign. What it was to come. This is a massive projection since the guy was literally number one in the world, but
Starting point is 00:46:33 what about Jason Day? Just someone who runs really, really hot when it's going really well, hard to beat, but I think it can disappear for stretches too. Well, this game is gonna be more course dependent than someone like Dave. Like Dave's game traveled from place to place. And Wolf and his two most successful events have been up north in the summer,
Starting point is 00:46:54 northern grasses, easier golf courses where you can bomb it and not the most strategic play. It didn't seem like there was a ton of thinking that needed to be done around that golf course this week. Not saying that he's not a smart player, but like it, I look at heritage and I don't be like, oh man, he, Wolf is a shot maker into those pins. The golf course looks sweet.
Starting point is 00:47:13 What'd you guys think of the course? I thought, as I texted you guys, like for humans, it seemed like a cool golf course. Like watching those guys, like, oh, this might as well be like anything. It's like the, you know, the golf course doesn't matter. It's price and it's got 74 yards into every hole, but I was like, man, I would really like to play there at a place like this.
Starting point is 00:47:30 It looks really cool. Dope ass, classic, or off? Yeah, some cool greens. They did a decent-ish job of getting lower to the ground, kind of, on some of the drone shots were cool. Some cool pins on some of the part 3s and stuff like that. So it was a fun place to watch a tour of it. Can I float something to you?
Starting point is 00:47:45 Did you guys know Jordan's speed and Bryson are the same age? Yeah, I looked at there two months apart. I looked at it today. It's the first time hearing of that. Doesn't Jordan's speed look like he just feels like he's like 13 years older than Bryson at this point? He's only on time. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:47:57 26 going on, 46. Speed having won 11 times by time he was 23 is, I've looked that up today and was like, whoa. See, that's how the speed's done. He's walk away, walk away. Man, what happened to speed? Should we talk about that? I know.
Starting point is 00:48:14 God. God makes me really sad. I'd love to add in a nugget about, you know, Kevin Kizner finishing solo third. Maybe this is my handshirt. I'm like, what was that guys? That was a, that was a miss with Tyrell Haddon, the same group. They just dropped the ball with that group. I was, I had them had one finish.
Starting point is 00:48:30 They weren't going to win. The show was Bryson. I don't know. Yeah. Like, what, what I have wanted them to take any shots away from Bryson so I could see Kevin Kizner. It's like, no, not really. No, but I think it's very realistic that you can cover the guy in solo second of the
Starting point is 00:48:41 tournament. Yeah. I only, and also show Bryson. I don't think I saw Adam Hadwin shot all week. No, that is true. He finished tied for fourth. I will say, first time here, and this is maybe Hamster Am too, but I wanted to,
Starting point is 00:48:54 Let's do Hamster Am. Let's do it right now. Okay, I get, you get 15 seconds. 15, okay, I just want to say props to Amanda Baleonis. I thought her question to Kevin, maybe he didn't like it, but I loved it as if she asked him, you know, what do you make of Bryson? And I thought that was a great question.
Starting point is 00:49:12 And he was, it was a pretty good answer. It was good too, his whole, like he doesn't have enough going on at home. It was very, like, he's like, oh my God, most of these guys are dads. Where's Bryson? It's like, just does all golf all the time. All right, Sally.
Starting point is 00:49:23 I mean, it's, I don't have a lot to sail on it. I mean, it was just kind of a normal way. It did a good job focusing on the right things, coming down the stretch, aside from missing some of the players that were close to winning the tournament somewhat. The Bryson repetitiveness of storyline, protein shakes, and just it gets, I know that is designed for the people
Starting point is 00:49:42 that are not tuning into watch as much as we do, but I'm done. Imagine. Imagine not watching it at all for the last six months of the two to get to see Bryson there. What's a hell? What happened to this guy? I don't have much for my 15 seconds.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Other than maybe it's my imagination, it feels like the commercial load is down. It feels much more watchable. And also, I think CBS, it's so clear, they need to have a centerpiece story. Like when the story is Bryson and they can build everything around Bryson, everything flows.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Yeah, that totally agree. And when they don't have that or when the centerpiece is like Troy Merritt or there's four guys battling for the whole homeless hubs or whatever, then it just becomes, it's soft the rails and feels arbitrary. Yeah. Ryan Armer had a great week.
Starting point is 00:50:22 I don't really have my, I was like preparing for if he won how to talk about Ryan Armer and a great week. I don't really have my, I was like preparing for if he won, how to talk about Ryan Armer and I didn't do much preparation. So I wouldn't have been able to handle that one very well. Ryan Armer, I don't really listen to his music, but you know, the fact he's making it, I respect that. Yeah. Chris Kirk had a good run.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Was this the 36-hole leader? A little podcast bump. For Chris Kirk. Podcast bump, Nance with a little shout out to the podcast. How about that? The broadcast was coming off the air I love those guys love nance man love. Yes. I've always thought that
Starting point is 00:50:52 Really appreciated that no that was cool. That was really cool. I think I pretty much covers the PMI classic do you do want to get any shots in it rocket mortgaged? It's on becoming I was thinking the 313 challenge. It's It's cool. I didn't really know. It was a learning experience this year for me. We'll be all in on that in future years. That had slipped off my radar last year. I will say a lot of it was probably Bryson, but I enjoyed watching this week.
Starting point is 00:51:16 And I... Bryson helped that. I would say that. Even without him, I don't know what it was. The golf course just popped for me. I liked watching it. It felt very interesting. And I think I just... Even without him, I don't know what it was. The golf course just popped for me. I liked watching it. It felt very interesting, and I think I just,
Starting point is 00:51:28 it all completely washed out of my brain from last year, other just because Nate Lashley won by like six or whatever. But I didn't have a lot to go on from last year. No, it was fun. And shout out to the tour for moving to Detroit. Obviously, a city that can use an event, and a city that can use some positive vibes and some good charity stuff, and upper Midwest, man.
Starting point is 00:51:50 More events. Can I do special mentions? Sure. Arjun Atwell, at one time, Saturday morning, got it to 12 under, I believe. It was like tied for first. That's unbelievable. Check it out.
Starting point is 00:52:02 I didn't even know he was still playing golf. I don't know how did he get in the tournament? He hasn't had a top 10 since 2013. He ended up shooting, he finished T-45. That's a tough weekend. So props to him and then, Maven McNally, you know, it's quietly, you know, having a pretty decent year this year.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Shout out to my Fred ex cup team. Shout out to your boy Tony Fienau, another week where he should have contended and didn't. Oh, listen. Can I ask you, can we talk about the Fred ex cup team. Shout out to your boy Tony Fienau, another week where he should have contended and didn't. Oh, listen. Can I ask you, can we talk about the Fred ex cup? Thanks. What do you guys want to do with that? I mean, I think it's the mega season.
Starting point is 00:52:33 I think I want to read draft. I was going to say, do you want to do this march all the way for another year? I mean, sure. It's getting kind of a read draft. I'm kind of, I feel a read draft after the tour championship. You know how Onika talked about like when she got to the top, how like there was like nowhere to go and she's kind of very lonely, weird feeling.
Starting point is 00:52:51 That's how I feel kind of right now. That's probably because you don't have a rapport with any of your guys. I have great rapport. I'm, you know, I'm chatting with homeless hubs and the DMs and stuff like that. Give me insight. Speaking of the DM, shout out to the guy who messaged me that a homeless hub looks like Matt Wolfe, if Matt Wolfe lived under a bridge for a year. That's what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Someone look it up. It's pretty, that's pretty good cup. That's pretty good. Will's out to us. When's on the corn fairy tour? Didn't really get to, I didn't follow that, that closely this week or get to watch much to that. But I feel like that's a name I'm hearing a lot of.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Yeah, he was knocking on the door for quite a few weeks. So good for him. Maybe just a second. Should we get to segments? Randy, you want to kick it off? Yeah, are we doing, you hate to see it? Let's do you hate to see it first? Oh, I got a good one.
Starting point is 00:53:30 I believe it was Tuesday, maybe Wednesday this week. Windom Clark's Twitter got hacked. He was, he was slight, I had a DM notification went there. I'm like, windom, why is windom Clark DM? Like, he was on my frex last year. But I can't say I have any kind of rapport. I can't say I have much of a relationship at all with Wyndham Clark.
Starting point is 00:53:51 And so I opened the DM and check it out. He was like, offering me this discount code by MBA jersey. I was like, yeah, that's probably not one. So he did announce on Twitter with exhalation points. My account was hacked. So that was my, you hate to see it this week. You do hate to see that, sorry.
Starting point is 00:54:07 What do you hate to see? You know, one thing you hate to see really is when you're watching professional golf, a break from that professional golf to see a commercial about professional golf being back. Sure. And I think we all know what we're talking about. We're talking about a commercial
Starting point is 00:54:22 that is on every time it's a break. Hey, Simpson! The PGA Tour is back on on every time it's a break. Supsing. The PGA Tour is back on the tee. It's been a month now, guys. We have been back on the tour. Can I do a quick break into that? When people are bitching constantly that there's too many commercials,
Starting point is 00:54:38 why do you need to advertise your own product that somebody's already watching? I know the ant give those back. That's been my block for like six years, but that's unbelievable. We've learned it's like, it's an old, unsold spot, right? And which, yes, please go back to the college.
Starting point is 00:54:50 I know. Unreal. It's, it's maddening. But the part you hate to see the most is a commercial repeating on the air publicly that had to get approved also has a glitch in it. This glitch is Christopher McDonald, who is the actor who played Shooter McGavin in Happy Gilmore.
Starting point is 00:55:10 It does his Ricky Fowler twice in a two second period. And what you really hate to see is maybe it's a tribute to both of his DUIs that he's got because he does have two of them, the second of which being when he tried to tell the cops that he was Shooter McAfin and was in Happy Gilmore and tried to get off of it. And I had people side in the DMs telling me all kinds of horrible stories about this guy I've heard horrible stories in the past. How like, you know, they've run into them in bars and he buys drinks for every under 30 year old woman in the bar and is hanging around like blacked out drunk by the end of
Starting point is 00:55:44 the night. And then you know, well, somebody will go take a picture with them and that he'll hang out with them like two hours after that and just getting drunk. And that's the guy that PGA tour wanted to feature in their return to golf. And not only that, they wanted to do it twice. So to that, I would say with maybe the biggest class act on tour. Yeah. Ricky Fowler.
Starting point is 00:56:05 So you do, that's just something when you watch golf, you hate to see it. Quick aside, is there a worse, like could there be a worse fate than being a character like that in a Uber successful TV show or film that then you get known as that character for the rest of your life?
Starting point is 00:56:23 I think he steers into it though, I think he enjoys it. Well, I think it's one of two ways. I feel like you have to steer into it, but you gotta know where the edge is. And I don't think he knows maybe where the edge is. I think like, Can you imagine every time he goes out, he shoots him a Gavin.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Well, think about someone like Screech or someone. I know. I mean, there's a hundred of these guys. I did work out well for him. Right, well, I don't think he knew where the edge was. I wouldn't want. I think it's socks. I think it's kind of sad.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Speaking big Randy. What's your hate to see it? Well, I had a much simpler one, but Tron had a mega multi-tour parlay in our draft king segment that you mentioned earlier. That was like just beautiful mind chalkboard moving parts all over the place like five head to head matchups that all had to hit across multiple tours. And he missed out by one shot with Patrick Rogers finished one shot ahead of Tyler Duncan. He missed actually catching that. So you've read that. That's things you hate to see. Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Really hate to see. Let's, let's move on. We'll reverse the order. So you go first, rub the green of the week. Mine to maybe a lighter one this week. Bryson's drop on 15 was a bit too, rub the green for me. Yeah. Exactly sure.
Starting point is 00:57:38 No, it was going on. They did it. I would say they did it. Not a very good time. Why did it keep going so far? That was a great amount. We didn't talk about Bryson slamming his equipment. Why does it keep going so far with these things?
Starting point is 00:57:50 I don't know, man, maybe you're hitting the wrong club. Yeah, that might be it. So he's a beef guy. Man, that's why it's going so far. Flizzly green. He's a king doing that. It rolls into some thickish rough, and there's a sprinkler head there, and he gets a drop, and he's able to drop it away
Starting point is 00:58:05 from the thick rough and onto the collar, or just something he can get a putter on. Now, he drops it, and it rolls backwards further away from the hole. So it's not like a rolled closer and had to redrop it, and they let him redrop it. And I don't know why my thinking is, I think Bryson was being sketchy with his drop,
Starting point is 00:58:24 and when he dropped it, the first contact it made was closer to the hole, which you can't do. So even if the ball rolls backwards, you know, you... So he's trying to drop it as close to that line, closer to the hole as he possibly could, and the rules official will stand, and they're really close to it. You got to know where the edge is. And drops it, and so again, it rolls further away, but he gets to redrop it, and next time drops it, lo and the line, or whatever, and gets a good lie out of it. And it was an easy
Starting point is 00:58:48 to putt. That he won by three. It didn't really matter, but it could have mattered at that time. And that was, I guess technically the literal rub of the green is the ball roll off the green, but that I didn't care for that. I did. That's tough. The rule book's always been the true 15th club. I had a quick one rub of the green of the week. You know, Randy, it was, it was about our guy, Max for Stafford, just electrical issue at the Austrian Green Prix. It was, it was a sure podium for him. He was, he was quick those first few. On the Red Bull Ring too.
Starting point is 00:59:16 I know, unbelievable. Which Sully proclaimed they were in Belgium this morning. He was a bit over his knees. Yeah, I was very confused. I was very drunk last night. I woke up in a day this morning. And the part I loved out that one drive to survive, they started a race and the guy yells it. They always like, and we're racing in Belgium. And the guy didn't say that today, but I had already planted it in my head. He was going to say it.
Starting point is 00:59:38 So I texted you guys that and it turns out it wasn't. I missed it. I missed a tea time earlier this week doing that exact same thing. I just imprinted it in my head 1236. Turned out it wasn't. I missed it. I missed a tee time earlier this week doing that exact same thing. I just imprinted in my head 1236. Turned out it was 1214. Missed it. Anyways. Anyway, that happens.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Randy. Well, this is par rub the green, par soap box, but I have a different soap box. So bear with me. Ryan Armor completed his third round at 1600 par. Rice and D. Chambo, a few, sometime later, completed his round at 1600 par. By virtue of completing his round, first Ryan Armour gets placed into the final round on Sunday. Final group. Yes, thank you.
Starting point is 01:00:17 They got to fix this. I think everybody would have been better off with Wolf and Bryson paired together. I don't know if it's the TV executives who need to make the call. They need to change the format. It shouldn't be the first one in, goes out last. It's, you know, based on FedEx cup points. But somehow the tour has to control their own product to be able to make these groups on television more marquee.
Starting point is 01:00:42 And weigh in on that. That's sick. I love that control That's sick. I love that control your own product. Cause like right now it's like, well, that's the rules. Like, well, who makes the rules? It's you guys.
Starting point is 01:00:51 You can change these. So I like doing it on FedEx Cup points. That's a kind of a, get a jail free card to not basically say like, well, we're stacking the deck, but you can kind of do it. It doesn't make it seem as quite as unfair as just like cherry picking. Like, well, no, Matthew, you're gonna kind of do it. It doesn't make it seem as quite as unfair as just like cherry picking. Like, well, no, Matthew, you're going to play with Bryson.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Yeah. In fairness, I would go for that method as well. But that's good stuff. All right, soapbox Sunday, I got a very quick one. Let me lead it off. I was listening again, the aforementioned PJ Tore radio. There was a promo messaging, you know, blah, blah, blah, catch it this week at eight o'clock on golf. And I had totally forgotten. I know this happened a while ago, but I blah, blah, catch it this week at eight o'clock on golf.
Starting point is 01:01:25 And I had totally forgotten, I know this happened a while ago, but I just, I wanted to circle back, you know, we never leave any stone unturned on this podcast. I had totally missed the whole golf channel rebranding to just golf, which is very stupid. And I just wanted to say that that's dumb and I don't like it. And you know, golf channel just laid off like a bunch of people this week. And that was just another good indicator of like, man, maybe just make like good shit.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Don't worry about like how you're branding stuff and trying to be some like digital conglomerate. Like you don't make anything good. So like who cares what, you know, who cares what the name on the top of the press release says. Like you're the golf channel. Just be the golf channel. And that, I don't know why that really struck me, but that's just, I'm stepping off my
Starting point is 01:02:08 stuff. I got you back on that. Totally. Thank you. Pretty good from the so-called. Launch it on golf. Consumment on golf. So needless.
Starting point is 01:02:16 So needless. Who's next? I'm happy to go. So I got a real bone to pick with, and I'm sorry, Tron's not here this week. Daniel Summer Hayes, team it up in Colorado this week on the corn fairy tour. I was led to believe last week that that was his swan song. He was retiring. It was, you know, the feel good story, probably of the year on the corn fairy tour. And and lo and behold, he's out the next
Starting point is 01:02:43 week, team it up in Colorado. That it's it's it's absolutely disgusting. Why do golfers insist insist on ruining good moments like that? I just cut. You missed the cut. You missed the cut on the number. You'd be happy to know. Like, whoa, oh, oh, that's cooler.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Like that's, you know, when you tell your grandkids, yeah, my last event was actually in Colorado, I missed the cut. It wasn't, you know, I you tell your grandkids, yeah, my last event was actually in Colorado, I missed the cut. It wasn't, you know, I withdrew from a playoff after I had nothing left to prove. And as you said last week, as you should have done. Yeah. So just our horrendous, horrendous decision by Daniel Summere's. And I want him to know I'm thoroughly disgusted with him.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Imagine my surprise when I'm texting with him this week, trying to schedule him for the podcast, and he says, I'm actually playing this week, it was kind of like, well, the point was kind of to talk about your walkoff, but okay, we'll see. I feel I still may have a mile off. And we maybe have to phone you in for that. Yeah, please do.
Starting point is 01:03:40 For my soapbox send, we touched on it some already, but I want to shout out the Return of Formula One. This was the first race I've ever watched live after watching the F1 drive to survive on Netflix. And of course, listening to some fantastic trap draw episodes, the detail of the series, I was afraid that watching the actual races was gonna be much more boring, just because I just felt like, all right,
Starting point is 01:04:02 they're packaging this up and showing you the most exciting stuff from the races, and that's probably better than sitting and watching it for two hours. I was wrong. It was awesome. I'm gonna say you know that we sit and watch six hours of golf every Sunday.
Starting point is 01:04:12 It is the complete to that exact point. It is the global. Holder opposite. I couldn't take my eyes off the screen. There's no moment to like check your phone to follow any of that because the broadcast is unbelievable. There's no commercials. Zero, for two hours.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Unbelievable. How does that, I get that the entire thing is one giant commercial for all these racing teams and all the, you know, signage and all that stuff, whatever. But I was couldn't believe the quality of production of how many moving parts they put you in the cars with the drivers with audio, a rear view camera, how hard they're hitting the camera, how hard they're
Starting point is 01:04:45 hitting the throttle, how hard they're hitting the brakes, what gear they're in, how many miles an hour they are, how many, like there's so much going on. When Red Bull had an issue, they get Christian Horn of the team principal like on, into the calling into the broadcast and tell them what's going on. And it was so reckless. Just doing reckless. Just reckless damage to all these drivers, Brian. But you got to understand how hard golf is the broadcast.
Starting point is 01:05:05 I mean, it was over in two hours. It was just a great way to spend a Sunday morning. If you somehow like watching golf on TV, I would highly suggest like also watching something like something like to do one. Well, do the Netflix series first. Yes. You get to learn about all the people and the personalities
Starting point is 01:05:20 which again, golf would never do that. Yeah. And then, you know, like all of us, it's like, oh, now I can't wait to watch the races. It's amazing how fast they made fans out of all of us, I think, so fair to say. What a tricky formula they came up with. I'm ready.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Now I'm ready to turn this into a formula one, bottom, right? I think, yeah, it's the pivot. Well, it was a complete sweepstakes at the end. And people were saying, like, guys, don't get used to that type of thing. Yeah, it's not everything. This was the first race you watched. That's not what it's usually like. complete sweepstakes at the end. People were saying, like, guys, don't get used to that type of thing. Yeah. It's not everything.
Starting point is 01:05:46 This was the first race you watched. That's not what it's usually like. It was like five second penalty here, five second penalty there. Like, oh my god, it was good. And I cut this. This might be too much nitty gritty, but the Alex Albin tried to pass Lewis Hamilton on the outside. And you know, Hamilton ends up bumping him off the track
Starting point is 01:06:05 and incurring a five second penalty and get Albin had passed him technically. It's why he had the penalty. And I'm thinking like, I was like, oh, watch the replay. It's go, you idiot, he passed you, you can't do that. I was like, oh yeah, you were taking that turn to 100 miles an hour.
Starting point is 01:06:18 You can't see how much space exactly you're giving this car and you have to make a split second decision, literal split second decision. And it was just, it was fantastic television. If you like sports and you've not gotten into F1, again, start with the drive to survive, getting the trap draw episodes and then let's all be racing fans because I'm totally sold.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Well, we'll see. Hey, bud, we're right back in Austria again next day. We're back in Belgium. They're going to slow down the corners, though. Oh, yeah, it's going gonna be the workday charity challenge. The workday grand free day actually. Yeah, they're putting some sawdust on the main drag. Using some different corners. And the peak ahead for this week on the PGA tour is this is for you work day open,
Starting point is 01:07:00 which I believe is technically the work day. What a lune, man. I just, this is for you work day. Yeah. Blows at 35 yards man. I just, this is for you, work day. Yeah. Blows at 35 yards left. God, I forget. So this is the first. We forgot all about Philly.
Starting point is 01:07:11 But Bryson's like the new Phil. The first of back-to-back events at Mirafield Village, they're going to be doing some shorter rough for this one, slightly slower green speeds to create some additional pins. They're going to utilize a variety of T-boxes to help protect the course. Of course, for the following weeks Yeah, two straight weeks of Mirafield Village
Starting point is 01:07:28 Excited watch that the supers will be in all of our thoughts these next two weeks is Bryson playing both of them or Probably taking next week off maybe and kind of take a week on some point. I would think so But listen past champ of the memorial. We'll see. I'm gonna probably take this week off if he was going to right? I would think how's the how's new Bryson's game as as our. How's the, how's New Bryson's game as our, your field village expert? How's New Bryson's game going to stack up there? Well, I would assume. I mean, how's it going to be hitting a 350 and straight and putting it really good? I'm just trying to think of it off.
Starting point is 01:07:59 All by whole, it's like, yeah, one will be great. Two will be great. Three, he'll have to hit iron. Five, you're kind of limited on how far you can hit it. Six, a somewhat limited on how far you can hit it. Seven, bomb it over the corner. Nine, you're limited on how far you can hit it. Ten, bomb it.
Starting point is 01:08:12 Eleven, bomb it. 13, bomb it. 14, you might try to drive the green. I was going to say 14 would be cool. That might be really like going forward. That might be interesting. 15, he's probably limited on how far you can hit it. 17, bomb it.
Starting point is 01:08:23 18, bomb it. So probably pretty good. Sounds good. Sounds good. All right, thank you everybody for tuning in. Thank you, boys, and we will see you with another episode here Tuesday coming up shortly. And otherwise, we'll be back together next Sunday.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Cheers, too. Namaste. I'm gonna stay. Good night, club. Be the right club today. Yes. Be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. How about in?
Starting point is 01:08:52 That is better than most. Better than most! Expect anything different.

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