No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 329: Workday Charity Open Recap

Episode Date: July 13, 2020

JT's a killer, then he's not, then he is, then he's not. Collin Morikawa pulls off the come from behind win, and we cover everything from a wild weekend in golf. The coverage was a bit of an online disaster (35:30), Hovland fades on Sunday, Brooks vs. Bryson (44:30), a little different Muirifield Village setup, and a lot of other topics covered. This was a fun one. Let's do it again next week!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Lang Up Podcast Sunday afternoon, a rarity here in the killhouse. I don't think we've done this since Tiger One of the Masters actually. It brings me back.

Yeah, it's solid here and it's a lonely afternoon here. It is just my colleague, TC, Tron Carter's here. We got rid of the NARC, we got rid of the Strat boys. It's going to be a quiet afternoon here, it is just my colleague, TC, Tron Carter is here. We got rid of the NARC, we got rid of the Strat boys, it's gonna be a quiet afternoon here. Wall to wall golf talk. I'm gonna ask you to put your books and notes away, okay? It's time for a pop quiz. I'm gonna put your knowledge to the test here.

How would someone decide if they should be playing the regular ChromeSoft, which is the one in the red box or the ChromeSoft X in the black box? I mean, it's all personal preference, right? Just a matter of what you value in your game, what you prioritize. We're leaning on you for your certified master fitter knowledge here, but I think it might be funny

that I might be about to give this answer because I think based on all the info I'm gonna give, I should be an X guy, but I prefer the red box to your exact point. I'd not exactly sure why I play the regular cromps off. The regular cromps off is best for players that want more distance with it, with just about every club in the bag, along with the tour level control around the greens. And the X is for those that want a little more distance on the driver with a very workable

flight and precise distance on each iron. And of course, along with tour level control around the green. So check out the Chromesoft and ChromesoftX at CallwayGolf.com slash Chromesoft. Oh, and for everyone that is deep in the European tour scene or believe technically the challenge toward this weekend, you know that Mark Warren won the Austrian open using a ChromesoftX golf ball with the triple track this weekend. Warren. And did it without a caddy, which is sick.

So Callway would also like to congratulate loyal chrome soft user and sweetens regular Scott fan of Rocky Top Ford for his win on the US Amtor TPC Sugar Loaf Classic. So congrats to Scott. No, Scott. Yeah, well, so congrats on that. Whoa, wild day.

I think, first I'm going to ask you to take of many things that we need to take back. The first thing I'm going to ask you to take of many things that we need to take back the first I'm going to ask you to take back is you saying I don't really know if I have much doubt up for this week's pot. Yeah, I got a lot Got a lot. That was a heck of a as of yesterday afternoon. It looked a little bit suspect. Yeah, it was just you know There just wasn't any a lot a whole lot of storylines developing You know, it just besides like Justin Thomas playing really well more a cow of playing well It looked like it was gonna be a runaway. Yeah, JT and then developing, you know, I just besides like Justin Thomas playing really well, Moricaa playing well. It looked like it was going to be a runaway.

Yeah. JT. And then, you know, when he's the first two today or two out of the first three today and we're often running. It was such a weird day because he flip. I think he flipped plot between being a killer in a house cat about six times today. It was rough looking early and then he won put it, I think 10 straight holes between six and 15, whatever that is, capping that stretch with a club tour on 15 for the ages and draining

a 25 foot eagle putt that was winding in from the back of the green. And this is where I get caught up with golf Twitter as well. Everyone declared it over. So I was like, oh, yeah, it's over. And I was kind of doing the math. I was like, I mean, it could. I wonder what the odds. I should have looked up the draft King's odds as to what they were as of that moment.

What would have taken for you to bet it on more a cow at that point? On 16? Yeah. Probably at least five to one. Oh, yeah. I would have think it would have been at least 10 to one. Cause yeah, the odds of him catching a shot per hole, which he did, 16, the bogey, it was just a bit squirrely that chip run, getting away from him a little bit.

I mean, I think that's just a result of the math kind of evening out of, you know, your 10 straight one put run has to come to an end at some point. And they were really quick to give him a shout when he ran the chip by. They were like, Oh, watch, look at, look at how he just, you know, he watched it go by and learn the break from the other side. And when that happened, I kind of thought I was like, OK, I at how he just, you know, he watched it go by and learned the break from the other side. And when that happened, I kind of thought I was like, okay, I mean, I know that first of all, every golfer hopefully does that to begin with. But how those things work when it rolls away that far, you can kind of get tricked into

what it does at the end when it's running out of speed going away from you. Which is the least important part of the next part. The least important part of the next part. And it broke to his left, you know, as it died, it speed going away from you, which is the least important part of the net. The least important part of the next plot and it broke to his left, you know, as it died, it was going away. So he played it outside on the left and it never broke right coming back the other way. So I mean, I'm sure Justin knows how to adjust for that, but it was surprising how much they were like all over that.

And then he didn't, he did miss it on that left side. I mean, going back, I think starting on number eight was where his run started. He was two over through seven. Yeah, kind of made a mess of seven and then eight, not the most comfortable part three in the world. Him was back there today too. Nine, 10, 11, really were it. I think it got real was the club twirl out of the rough on a punch out on 13. That was a good shot.

It was, but I was a little curious as to why he was club twirling a punch out into the bunker. But it looked, honestly, a lot of my notes are not, are in preparation for him having one because it just looked surgical. It looked to your, to your tweet as well, just like it was experience. It was just a master class of,

Tabaro, a phrase from Mark Emelman, which I think I heard a dozen times this weekend, but a master class and just, look like a guy that had been through this a million times and executed it, and then all of a sudden, he didn't execute it. Like the shot into 15, the second shot into 15 was pornographic. It was wild.

And then Morakawa was flustered at that point. He was in some weird spots on, on 15. Yeah, he struggled to make par on that one. And I mean, going back though, let's start. So 40. So Morakawa shot into 12, a par 30. Mm-hmm. It was unbelievable.

And then he's driving to 14. 14. That was, that was as cool of a late hole that I can recall seeing. Like, and it's kind of the Harkens back to our discussion around 15 of travelers. And I know they're very different holes. And this hole wasn't even necessarily set up to be a drivable hole. Like they never use these teas for the memorial. If I remember right, they use that tea for one of the days of the Presidents Cup for one

of the sessions. I remember Keegan Bradley, I think just nailing a fan in the head. Well, it's a different experience. It's a different experience. It is very different. for one of the sessions, because I remember Keegan Bradley, I think just nailing a fan in the head. It is very different, but I mean, especially for where Sabatini takes it. Yes. Yes. Well, three. We got to talk about that too.

But that's okay. So that is the kind of the point of a lot of that discussion back then without using any names in this discussion. But that was an eight yard gap that Morcaw had to fit that drive through on 14 and he did it. Like would the numbers say, do that? Like go for it. Like, that's the shot.

I'm almost positive like JT's play and I'm not giving him a pass for laying up, but that he was most comfortable hitting a wedge from 100 yards into those pins. He's an easy-ass birdie. And Morcaw with a day before pulls it left above the bunker in the rough on the downslope and he goes, oh, last place you can miss. I was like, man, I think Wright would have probably been the last place because the right is the water. I mean, it was not a good place, but there is the point is there's no good place to miss.

Hovland was so close with his ball and went in the water. And more cow getting birdie out of that and then JT playing in a different way and also getting birdie. That's what I was talking about with like, how cool is it to see it actually come down to a real decision and not just everyone sending it on a drive-able platform? And three drastically different outcomes. Exactly.

I thought that was the full spectrum of what exactly I would like to see as from an entertainment standpoint, coming down the stretch of a tournament at the end. That was the 10 out of 10. It was fun to see some different pins out there too on Sunday. Like the pin on 11 up front there, like Hovelin's putt hitting that 15 feet out to the left

and then it broke down most of the way right. JT was able to bank one in there. And then the pin on 14 was great. Front pin on 18 was really interesting too. They always usually do the back left Sunday traditional pen for memorial, which I'm sure they're protecting, which props the JT to on the in regulation. He came up short into 18. That chipped it. He had from down short of there. That's part of the reason I'm playing left hand. And, and like really to see him play it, play it

in there low was was cool. Yeah. I love when see him play it, play it in there low was cool. Yeah. I love when those guys play it low versus versus taking it high. That is a whole different skills. Yes, that chip is a more interesting shot than watching a guy like try to predict how it's going to pop out of ankle deep rough around the greens, which we saw a lot of this week. And we're going to see a lot of even more next week because the rough is going to be

up even higher. Some discussion on that on Twitter earlier in the week, I was, my stance on that is not like, hey, shave the banks at Mirfield Village. That's not at all I'm saying. It's not what it's designed for. It's severe slopes and it puts pros and really awkward spots and those shots around the green don't look even remotely easy. I get tired of seeing balls from the rough out of the fairway, come screaming through a green and stopping two feet into the rough.

And somebody that air males a green by a yard, it stops in the same spot. I just think that's kind of, that gets dull watching that. Knowing if you're out of position off the tee, you can use the rough as a backstop behind the green. That's where I stand on that person. And some shorter rough would probably be easier

for those chip shots, but it also could lead to balls bounding further away. Your way in all the greens are so elevated. Yeah. And so like some of the, the, the, the, the utilize short rough like to the right of 14 and on the bank on 12 like not a lot of balls or some balls are staying up on that slope, but nothing was getting caught up in that grass.

I mean, some balls were hitting at the right angle and speed to stop, but it wasn't serving as like a backstop or breaks in front of those waters. So I like how that played. I thought the course played very interesting. I might, we're gonna get to Mark out here in the near future, I promise, but I might be talking a little out of my ass on this

and I'm wondering maybe you can help guide me here, but there's certain guidelines, or I don't know if it's technically a rule when it comes to course setup for the PGA tour. When green speeds are a certain guidelines, or I don't know if it's technically a rule when it comes to course setup for the PGA tour. When green speeds are a certain speed, you can't put holes on greater than, I want to say like a 2% slope. And this week with the dial back green speeds was like 11. One, that didn't feel that slow to me.

Watching it didn't, I know guys struggled a little bit with the pace, but that led to a lot more interesting pin locations, not only for access from fairways and approach outs, but also putts. I feel like I was watching way more break on putts than we're usually used to seeing on the tour. That was why like going back to more kawa, you know, I don't, this wasn't the easiest week to make four and five foot putts either. So I don't want to.

And that goes back to something. I remember Zach Blair saying once to us, which was when I got out on tour, I was stunned. How many, how infrequently I had to play a putt from eight feet or in outside the hole, like just how straight a lot of the parts on. Very donated. It's like kind of quadrants or places to, you know, yeah, I think I didn't really notice the green speeds all that much. I think it's more just probably if you if you waited against footage from years prior, I'm sure it would be. Well, to that point, I think it was slower

greens, just means you can use the slopeier part. So a lot of the puts were speedier. If you're above the hole in a lot of like some of those pins on 11, JT, the pin on four one of those days, like the birdie putt JT had was like from 12 feet or something. He played it three feet out on the left and it broke in. That was gross. So that was, that was fun to see. It was a fun kind of change of pace. And the score is ended up looking a lot like the memorial, probably a little lower than that,

but I have a feeling they're gonna, we're gonna talk about next week here shortly. Yeah, let's talk Havlin a little bit. Let's get some more, Cal. We haven't covered much of that. First of all, I'm gonna put in first team, all PGA tour in player caddy conversations. Like, it seems like he is a broadcaster. He gives you everything he's

thinking bounces it off as caddy. His caddy seems like an alpha. I think we actually got a question on that. I'll get the name here in a second. But the way that they, so it's from Brian Phillips actually, more of that cad more. His name is J.J. Jack of it, right? Because, yeah, because Nancy said it about six times for four weeks. But the way they talk about it, and I loved the final one into, into, into 10, it was, you know, he went down a club and basically told him, like, if you feel this wind change, like back me off of it, like tell me, if you see something, tell me, if you see something, say something. And he got over it. And I think he was worried about it getting there and it got there plenty

which kind of showed how jacked up he was. But gosh, that just sets you up for drama so much better and to watch him execute these. And here's Caddy say, we want to land this three or four past the pin coming into 18 green and it lands three or four feet past the pin was, that's just awesome. For sure. That's a whole layer. And I think it's, you know, I was texting with a friend earlier about he was asking whether I like not having fans.

And I said, honestly, I'm enjoying it more because they can bring you so much more of this context. It does feel a little flat at certain points, but I think the positive is outweigh the negatives. I wouldn't quite give him a pass on that. And the no fans doesn't necessarily, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't think we should. I think we've got these mics so much work. They do. It's now, right? Yeah, but I think they could still get the mics up there, even if they're

weren't fans. I just don't want to. I think that they've made the minimal effort to do that until very recently. We're throwing on the bag. Sure. Something like that. Yeah. On the bag. And then it's not it's not attached to the player. But you're still there during the important combos. But to that point of like, all right, we don't need players, Mike's up. We just need, we can use the boom mics that the announcer shut up. Like they are executing on that.

And we are going to shred them and tear them into pieces and the hampsion portion of this episode. But I am in on how they are currently handling player, Caddy combos. I mean, it's a huge, huge development. Yeah, talking about more, Kawa, I was very impressed. I mean, he putted really, really well the first two days. And I was curious to see how that would last

on the way he gets. We've had some internal techs going up, like, I'm not sold that he's putting is an issue. You guys are way in on it. Well, then of course I get, you know, I get owned by everyone on Twitter because, you know, oh man, like, he made that 30 foot put to get in the, you know, I'm like,

That's not the issue, it's like the 30 foot. Yeah, I in the, you know, I'm like, that's not the issue is like the 30 foot. Yeah, I'm like, I'm more worried about the two, three, like he's a hundred and ninety-eighth on tour in, in like puts inside a three feet. Oh, and he's like one seventy-fifth in Strokes Game Pudding coming into either coming into this week or coming into today. Yeah, and it's, and it's markedly worse in Final Round. Yeah, that 11 inch putt to get into the playoff,

lipped like it was on its way out. Yeah. And like I'm not saying this because I'm, I'm rooting again. Like I'm saying it because I'm, I really liked the guy and I want him to be an all world player and all that. I just like the more that shit that happens, the harder it's going to be to, to really get where he wants to be because that, that shit is demoralizing. Yeah. It's weird to kind of have this stance overall when I think it. So he ended up it.

He gained four and a half shots on the field putting this week 24th overall. To your point, it was negative. There's only day with negative strokes game putting was today the final round. He's 45 today. Lost his shoulder. I mean, he made a good put on 17. On 17, he made a good put on 15. So, you know, it's not like he didn't, didn't make some important. Right. But it's not an asset right now. It's definitely not an asset.

It's more of a liability. This week, it was much less of a liability. And in fact, it ended up being an asset mostly for him this week. But I mean, the iron play, it's going to become a joke, but it really is really, really, really good. At one point, I think it was sometime yesterday. I think it was his approach into 15. I'm watching and he hits a, I think it was, maybe not,

but I don't know exactly what hole, but he goes, hits it and he goes, go left. And the ball ended within five feet, just right at the pin. Like that's how accurate he is with the zirens. And he and Hovelin hit the exact same percentage of greens this week. Really? 77.78. That's what the percentage of greens that JT hit was.

68. 55. What? Yeah. No way. 55.5. And he didn't make a bogey until today. Hold on.

That was today. I'm sorry. Okay. That's good to say. He had 66% first round, 88% second round, 78% third round and 55% today. Yeah, he, it was a weird, weird day for JT. So he was 72% for the week, which makes it.

That sounds a lot. Yeah. How the hell did he, I'd spooked myself here. Actually, even more amazing. More Kawahit's 77.78% of the greens in three of the four rounds. Wow. Yeah, I mean, just seeing him hit gosh, like that six iron on, what was that on 16?

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Yeah, JT this week, you don't have to remind me about Oh, did you really? Yeah, oh, I didn't realize that. It was 12 to 1. It would have been a lot of weeks of the favorite in a row of the favorite winning. Yeah, which I think Warikawa was 50 to 1. That seems, yeah, I guess we picked him so much

in the early part of that of our picks as well and I don't think nobody had him this week. So the putting, we are concerned going forward. So do we think today, like winning does that change anything for him? You think does he grip it a little bit? I don't want to say does he grip it more loosely? Because he grips it very loosely. It definitely gives you, you know, anytime you win it gives you confidence, not that I

would know. But, but I think part of it with me is like, it just looks so uncomfortable. He stands over it so long. I remember watching him at Reno in person last year was the first time I'd seen him. And I remember being like, standing there watching him, I followed him for nine or 10 holes. And that was my biggest takeaway,

other than the ball striking was, God, he does not look comfortable putting Would you rather five footer for your life? Would you rather he hit the putt or Hadecki hit the putt? Oh, man More cala, okay, I think so too Yeah, people do not get on Hadecki enough for how bad is I think I think there's such a long like with Hadecki We absolutely know yeah We've seen that for a long time. I think there's such a long, like with Hideki, we absolutely know. Yeah, we've seen that for a whole time. I think more of Kauai can go either way, right?

I swear there's just no one that gets cut too more often and it helps that CBS only shows putts really. Just cutting to Matsuyama and he's got an eight footer and it just doesn't touch the hole. Like it's just how he hasn't figured any of that out. I think there is something to be said to for these guys, they've got a lot of birdie putts there. Yeah, that's true. Five to 12 feet. And those aren't necessarily always the, I think there is something to be said to for these guys, they've got a lot of birdie puts there. Yeah.

That's true. Five to 12 feet. And those aren't necessarily always the, a lot of birdie puts that aren't the highest percentage. But Craig Fishman asked a great question. Over under on more Kawa Kaua career wins 15 and a half. And thank you to Craig for sending in the actual, the number over under. A lot of people just ask you for the over under. It's always great when you send the actual number.

I'll go over on that. I think that's an easy answer, but I want to go under just because it seems like every time we get an opportunity to do one of these, it, I always go over. I think I've given, you know, speed eight majors, row, eight, ten. I'll just say under just for fun. I mean, I think he's obviously supremely talented and going to be such a mainstay, but I'll just say, just literally for the hell of it. Going back to the putting, and some of this could be sample size, but then again, at the end of the day,

it's, you know, we're looking at a couple hundred attempts on a lot of these. Orikawa from inside 10 feet, he's 165th, 10 to 15 feet, he's 40 second, and then from 15 to 20 feet, he's 209th and from 20 to 25 feet, he's 200th. So there seems to be something in that 10 to 15 range. You know, it could be, you know, that's on 104 attempts, but, you know, it seems like there's, you know, part of it maybe he's an aggressive putter as it is too. Rob Finley, which upcoming majors suit more a cow of the best?

I mean, I don't know what made what courses he's not going to be a good fit at. Yeah, drives it long and straight. Yeah, he's long enough. He's not super long, but plenty long to contend and he's going to hit a shitload of greens and if it runs into hot weeks. So I would I would I'm not putting in the top of list for British opens right now, but I mean, gosh, wing foot seems like a really good place for that. Definitely does. I mean, harding does seems to too. If Bryson wasn't going to win by eight, I would say more. How would would would would fit in very well there. All right, straight vibe. And what does Victor Hovelin have to do to sacrifice in order to break the Puerto Rico open curse? Oh, man, that's a, that's an interesting one.

Uh, it's not his day. He just needs to put better, I think. Yeah. And the chipping, like when he left the, when he left the shot in the rough, like, dude, I, I feel your pain, man, that's, and he's been really open and honest about the chipping struggles. So he had a good chipping week. Yeah.

He was, it was until today, he gained every day, strokes gained every single day around the greens. I was 17th overall. The putting really did let him down. He lost a shot and half the field, 52nd and putting this week. How do bad days today actually? Yeah, he lost two and a half shots today and led the field in strokes gained T to green, which is always tough to, you know, not win when... I think the concern with him on the chipping is going to be down here in the south on the

Bermuda. Yeah, it should be better on the better grasses. Yeah, that kind of neutralizes chipping ability. I think at least a little bit or at least the contact becomes more of a guessing game on how it's gonna come out, which in my theory would mean that the lower skilled chippers would have kind of neutralized some of the higher skilled chippers. I agree.

Could be proven wrong, but that's my assessment. I tend to think when they slow the greens down a little bit, it actually favors the better potters. Find that too. A little shorter stroke. Yeah, I'd have to think about that probably. Some more. I'm terrified to make these comments anymore

because the data police will just come circling. I just know personally, I'm not a good putter. You're a pretty good putter. I'm not a good putter right handed. Great putter left handed now. But the, like I feel 10 times more comfortable on fast greens where I just barely have to get the ball started. There's so much less that can go wrong in a shorter stroke.

So I think I'm curious to see how much quicker they are. Yeah. It was weird having, first of all, the weather moving up the T times gave us this three-man pairing, which is about as, I don't, it's hard to find a guy to root against that in that pairing. I guess three extremely likable guys. That was the thing.

I think, you know, I tweeted on 12 or 13, I'm like, I'm just enjoying the hell out of this. I don't really care who wins. Like, there's no bad result here, as long as they all play well. That's what I would have, you know, in a different world, I'd have been much more upset about JT, JT blowing us, or I don't want to say blowing it. Actually, that takes us to our next question from Ryan Schleyhuber. Does JT have a little choke in him last year at Riviera than today? Question mark. I mean, you're going to let some, like, yeah, choke is the wrong word. Nobody's cat. Yeah. That's what I was ready to call JT killer.

I think I uncalled him a killer, called him a killer again. And then now we, I think we call off the killer thing. It's easy to pick off guys that, you know, I think I tweeted this Saturday, Justin Ray was tweeting some stats on it too. Like the PGA tour average for closing a 54 whole lead is 44%. Now JT is one of the best players in the game. He should have a higher percentage than that. He was eight of 12 going into it, which is two of three 66%. So now he's eight of 13. It's not trending in the best way. I mean, it seems to, you know, the couple of these are starting

to be a little bit more tip of the tongue and fresh on a lot of people's minds, but he's also the guy that has won the most of anyone on tour the last four seasons. This was what would have been his 13? What have been 13, which would have tied to Val? So that had been 13 and six years, do Val did 13 and five. I looked this up because I had a bunch of tweets ready for it if he won. Glad I didn't tweet those out before the final result because I was ready too.

But it was, you know, some questionable strategy coming down the stretch for JT, I was, I was ready too, but it was, you know, some questionable strategy coming down the stretch for JT I think, leaning hard on that three wood that cleafed it on 18, cleafed it on 18 again, and then worse the second time. And then cleafed it on, on 10 when they hit one good one the third time they played 18, but yeah, it was. I get the three wood on 18, but I've played Mirffef a few times and great, you know, like I'm obviously I'm not hitting anywhere near as far as these guys, but Ten's never struck me as a non-driver hole. Is it just because you have to shape it left? I guess.

Is it more comfortable with that? I guess, and maybe it just gives you a softer landing. If you're coming into that fairway, at the, you know, the further the left you got to go, it's just less landing space. And I think he kind of thought if he kind of pushed one a little bit it would land softer and stay short. But he also watching him play makes me it just look like he's like, I have a strategy for this golf course.

I'm going to it wasn't a lot of decision making done by him. And I'm not even being critical of that. It's just like when he got to 17 on Saturday, I was like, all right, three would. He knows what he knows. And he hit this just dropped down the elevator shaft, like a wedge from like 160 coming into that green to a front pin, which nobody was getting at all day. And it's decisive. And I think that played his benefit.

Now when the three would start to get in a little squirrely coming down the stretch, I'm surprised he didn't go to drive around 10. But I don't know. Yeah, that was, that was a, I'll just spoil it right now. That's my, my rubber, the green of the week was the three wood on, on 18 getting stuck directly behind a chair. I'm sorry, on 10, the play out, the final playoff hole, getting stuck directly behind a tree. Listen, if you're going to hit three squirrely ones,

it's something bad's about to happen. I was most disappointed to be honest. The bunker shot he hit on the 72nd hole was, it was not that difficult. For those guys, a downwind eight iron from 165 from the flat part of the bunker, no lip issues. He should be able to get that on the green. I think that's a shot if he had one shot back, he would take that one and maybe, I don't know if he needed seven iron on it,

but he's got to cover that front. I'm more encouraged than I am discouraged with it between the shot on 15 and just the putter. It seemed like the putter was really what led him down the last, because I keep thinking that he's had kind of a rough start to, he looks like he's raised. He was T10 at colonial or Charles Schwab, who was T8 at Heritage, Mystic Cut at Travelers,

and then kind of got an Alab, it seems like. Yeah, I mean, I think he's, I think he's on the cusp of doing some nice things. I know he's coming off a miscut at Travelers, but I honestly think he's raised his floor. Like during this three month period off, I think, he and you know, it's been heavily publicized on social media, but I think he's been heavily publicized on social media.

But I think he's got himself in a lot better shape and seems to have just kind of, he's never been strong, dude, but kind of has like a just weird, I don't wanna say like kind of skinny fat to him, but now he looks like toned up and looks like in shape and well conditioned. He's kind of had some dad bod.

A little bit. A little bit, but now he looks like, I mean, these two are on this Peloton thing is, it's a real, nobody's coming off, like, you know, being on the Peloton that much and not coming off, like much more toned and in better shape to be able to handle the rigors of, and honestly, like, we'll talk about the loop,

you know, here in the coming up periods, but like the data you get from that about your physical condition and stuff, I'm sure those guys have learned a lot, and you're gonna see more and more optimization, even more body optimization, not necessarily in the Bryson style. He's the one I'm most excited to watch.

It seems like we're gonna get to a point here in August in September where we got a lot of guys trying to peak at the same time here. And obviously that's always the case. Cat, you know, cat's kind of the X factor. But between DJ, being in good form finally, Brooks needs to figure it out, but JT, there's some dogs that are ready to fight now, I think.

Question here on setup real quick, before we move on to getting down the leaderboard a little bit. But this is from Attrunch, who said, are the guys who didn't play this weekend gonna have an advantage next week when the greens are back to normal speed now that these guys have adjusted. I don't think so either. And these guys moved from week to this weekend going to have an advantage next week when the greens are back to normal speed now that these guys have adjusted. I don't think so either.

These guys moved from week to week from tournament to tournament and they'll get used to it within a couple days of, you know, they spend hours and hours on the putting green every week. The practice putting green, dialing in their speed and I don't anticipate that being an issue. As far as leaderboard stuff, Chase Seaford or Cypher, he, I was really impressed with him today. I felt like it could have even been a little bit better, but it was really interesting to see him kind of manage it down the stretch, knowing he had a two-shot cushion ahead of. Over fifth place.

Yeah. Yeah. Which is extremely important. And that's not to make this an F1 podcast more than what already is now, but what they do, such a good job of is like emphasizing how important it is to finish fourth verse 5th. And the PGA tour does not do that at all, especially for these guys that are fighting for a career spot. And we're getting, it's getting late early. Yes. Part of the FedEx Cup. Yes. He was at, he was 160th coming into the week. Solo fourth movement of 109.

Which puts him inside the bubble, of course, for the playoffs. And every opportunity I get to say, just put the Dan, their current FedEx cup standing on the screen, the projected FedEx, I was trying to think of, if I could think of, there's probably 10 things I'd rather have up there than projected FedEx cup standing. Just put the current.

So, just wear the, of course, fucking turn it. Of course, where they are in the tournament, but if you need to do a FedEx obligation, current standing, just show me that. I don't care about projected. Put both up there. You can't put just projected up there.

It is so confusing and literally everyone's tuning it out. Which, and it was cool to see him make the mega four. On 11, laid up in the water and hold out from the fairway. And then went over and birdied 12, so that was cool to see. It was fun to see his post on interview too, because he could tell he had some serious, like, man, I'm just never happening before, I don't know what to do with my hands kind of vibe going on.

Florida triple crown winner. I saw that, yeah, I'm very glad he's out of, very remarkable. One of the Florida open, the Florida state am, and the Florida match play in the same year, 2012. Well, I'm glad he won the Florida open, the Florida state am and the Florida match plan the same year 2012. Well, I'm glad he won't be in this year's state am. I still need to get my way into that one. But can't lay is going to win next week for sure. Memorial, he had a 65 today with two bogies, including Bogey on 18. He was 500 through five, I think, and he won the

Memorial last year. So you can just chalk that up. T 11 and T seven first two starts back. Poulter had a, Poulter putt his ass off this week. Gary Woodland just did his little struggling thing of playing golf, but somehow finishing the top 10 now. It seems to be a very real thing. And really respected America in the process. He did. He was his shirt literally to the American. I honestly thought Jason Day missed the cut. Yeah, I forgot he's still

placed. Yeah, I'll be honest. So yeah, cool to see him in the top 10 this week. You know, I want to shout out Peter Monardi. Shot 68 came out firing on Thursday. He had rounds in the 60s, 70s and 80s. Shot 84 yesterday battled back today. I made a bad pun on Twitter and a variety of caddies came after me. Like I said, more like Peter Maldonati, am I right? Bonsha caddies came after me, said, he's nice to sky and he gets more of his talent. I'm like, we know that. Dude, I know.

Like, you know, I just, I can still make a bad pun about his last name and shoot in 84, right? His 68 included two bogies and a,geyed 13, 14 and doubled 17 on his way to shooting 68 on Thursday. And then yeah, I don't know what the hell happened on Saturday, but 40, 44. Believe me, nobody respects Peter Monotti more than me because I don't think there's a, like he gets more out of bad ballstriking than anybody on tour. He's gritty as fuck.

I will say shining light on good players playing badly is not mean. Like if it's a Steven Boatich or Smiley Kaufman, I'm not making fun of that. I know. Yes. Like that is a different scenario. But like if a guy goes on shoot 84, like that's kind of funny sometimes because we know how good they are at this is the most relatable game in the world. When you see one of these guys struggle, or if they're on their way to a bad day, and to this point, John Rom, who was kind of scuttling a little bit on Thursday, sprays one way right on six and does like the double arm waving it right. And I put them on blast on Twitter, just screenshot it all, just like I forget what I said about it. And he gets right on there, quote, retweeted

it with a joke. They put a orange vest on me and some red ones, and I'm an aircraft engineer or whatever he said. And I was like, that's on the heels of Bryson yelling at a cameraman last week. It was just, that made me happy. That made me very happy to see somebody taking the gym. Rob, Rob flicked off a hole again. Yeah, which is great. Which is fine. What's that?

What's that? Losing your brand. Like it is helping your brand. Yes. At least in our eyes. So I wanted to So I wanted to give a quick celebration of that. Speaking of grit, I do want to give a shout out to Chez. T17 this week, 70, 72, 70, 67. Good to see Chez back at it after a couple of bad weeks.

It's going to be weird following the end of the season, FedEx Cup regular season without the cards on the line. It's just truly to get in the playoffs, which I care a lot less now. It's way more interesting to see if guys are going to maintain their status for next year. Of course, with the COVID, no one is losing status this year.

And even that, guys are like nobody's even shifting categories. I know. You just lose status or you lose priority within your category, but for a guy that is a winner of the last couple of years or somebody that's finished that like made the tour championship last year, all right, cool. There'll be 30th of that category. Did you see the what the season of championships has now been renamed to?

No. It's the championship stretch, which is of course the PGA championship, the FedEx cup playoffs, and then the US open and then the masters. And the only one, they did a graphic with that. They didn't put logos on the, on any of the majors, but they put the little FedEx cup logo on the little graph that was for the FedEx cup playoffs and they didn't put logos on anything else. Is that because they don't have the rights to?

I wouldn't think so. I mean, CBS is the rights to the PGA championship. I mean, and has the rights to the PGA championship. I mean, and the masters, right? So I don't know. That's a very, very tour thing. Speaking of tour things, are we ready? Yes.

All right. We are not going to apologize for, however long this takes this week because judging from reaction on Twitter, it was a complete chit-chot. I don't want to say complete chit-chou. I don't wanna say complete chit-chou. Cause I think people have forgotten that as of, I wish I had the date, even a couple years ago, I thought, I wanna say like, RBC Heritage 2018

was not even streamed live on Sundays cause they moved up for weather. That was the win. The win, that was Satoshi Kadira, I think won that one. I think it wasn't even live. And I forget when I think it was Memorial in 2018, they had it changed around so they could at least go cbsports.com and watch it online. Now, this is a good question we got from Roger K.

Question for the pod tonight. How do you feel about golf TV personalities on Twitter, chastising golf fans for complaining about no slash limited live TV coverage during Final Round? Again, explaining again how TV contracts work for those who don't get it. So there's two, there's two things in play here. I think you've got the golf channel people who are probably unfairly getting criticized because there is nothing that they can do. They want to believe me, they want to show the golf and they want to, now do they come off as condescending

when they explain it to people? Absolutely, but they are taking an unfair amount of criticism for what is a tour and CBS decision. Yes, and here's the deal. Everyone wants to put their hands up and be like, well, it's not our fault. Like we blah, blah, blah, blah. Somebody signed an agreement where this could become a possibility.

So how like, and then they're going to say, well, you know, the new, the new right steel starts next year, which I don't have, I don't know if they would have this figured out for next year either. But it's somebody, somebody set something up wrong. Okay, this, this can't happen. Like if you want, this is your chance, figure something out. I don't know exactly how, of course, I don't know exactly how these works, but I understand that golf channel can't happen. If you want, this is your chance, figure something out. I don't know exactly how, of course, I don't know exactly how these works,

but I understand that golf channel can't just come on and say, I'm gonna show the final round. It's not golf channel decision. They own the rights. We got a lot of emails and DMs and tweets saying, like, how come this isn't on golf channel right now? It's not on them. It is on someone though.

I put them mostly on the tour. Like, they have sold these rights for whatever it is. And when they sold them- They have to give themselves any flexibility to no creativity. I mean, and like why the fuck does CBS have a dedicated sports network? Like why do I pay for that in my cable package?

If like when there's an opportunity to actually have something like I think it was the professional bull riders tour today, sponsored by the US border patrol, the monster classic or something like that. And then on CBS, on regular CBS, it was paid programming, hot topic, and then this like murder, like crime show for an hour, or an hour and a half. And basically they could have easily put it on CBS, made everybody happy and then replayed

it at three, made everybody happy again and then replayed it at three, made everybody happy again, because it was good enough that people would watch it on replay. It just seems like the torches cannot get out of their own way. To all the people saying, well, you guys don't understand how TV contracts work.

Yeah, we do, but we just don't give a shit either. Right, I'm done having to be as a golf fan that wants to watch golf on TV. I'm done being like, oh, well, that makes sense. Like they sign that deal. It's like, no, you sign the fucking deal. Like this is wrong. You mess this up and you can't show us live golf. For all parties involved. Sure. Figure it out. And so like, you know, you're trying to get as many people to watch as possible. You're trying to get you would think you have. You have your three most promising young stars in the mix on a Sunday coffee golf, too. I mean, great.

I love watching. Like, I love it when they bump stuff off. I have to rearrange my day, but I like it because I have the rest of the day to go. And yeah, it's just so frustrating when people want to watch, because streaming is not the same. Oh, it is 100% not.

Thank you for saying that because everyone just, oh, I've got the Roku app. It's playing just fine over here. Hey, it didn't work on Roku today. Like I got the spinning wheel of death. I tried to load it through my smart TV. And then the black commercial screens, it makes the commercials that much more jarring. Well, it got really bad at the end when they were in playoff yet they would just like go to this black screen and apparently the black screen in the playoff

is because they don't, they stop taping during that so they can time the show to fit it into the three hour window for the replay. Really? Yes. So, and not only do they rob the viewers who have gone out of their way to stream it online, to watch and they sit

through all this shit. They don't take the time to perfect. Like if you want to set up drama in between shots, keep cameras on these two guys. Talk about how JT just lost two shots of the last three holes. Colin Moore, Cow was trying to win a second. Like talk about this stuff. Set the scene. Now they go to a black screen for editing purposes to time out the show for the replay.

That when I found that out, I was so upset that I dedicated so much time to it. And stream, online stream worked great, CBSBORTS.com, I went on my computer, but if I wasn't... It was good on my computer, but like I'm sitting there on the couch, I'm giving my son Freddy lunch and all that.

And it's like, it's just an imposition. And then on top of that, we were talking to DJ earlier, DJ was on the road, stopping for lunch, he's trying to watch it and the stream cuts out when JT's put on 18 was a foot out. Like the whole... I'm not saying this in any braggadocious way, but I'm in the top whatever percent of golf fans

of as far as dedicating time, right? I didn't know how to find it at 11 o'clock. I honestly didn't because I, first of all, I didn't know his own golf channel this morning. I tried to stream it on PGA tour live. It wouldn't come up. And so a friend of mine reached out and said, well, my uncle just ordered PGA tour live for $70 because he thought that's where he could stream the final round broadcast. That's the other problem.

Everybody, like, it's so territorial and everybody's got their stuff and it's exhausting. It really, really is. And it didn't come on immediately. It was like a, it took at least 10 minutes from that they signed off in the golf chair on this morning earlier than it was like a 15 minute gap.

JT had hit it to two feet on eight and they missed it. I mean, it's just, oh God. It's a comedy of ineptitude. It's such hard work and it, It's like not only are we trying to get more people to watch, we're just trying to keep the same people watching. That's the thing. Right?

You know what? Like, probably if we weren't doing this pod and if it wasn't three guys, if it was Brendan Steele, Troy Merritt and Nate Lashley up there, I'm going to the beach during the day guys. Don't need it, do not need it at all. I will say on the coverage front, I thought I really like Mark and Wilman.

I think he does a good job. He certainly needs to diversify some of his phrasing a little bit, but I think he gets in, he gets out, he says what he needs to say, and then, yeah, I mean, God, Fowdo just seems to be getting worse and worse every week. So. I am, this isn't directed at any announcers in particular. I'm so over announcers being stunned at how far guys hit irons. There was at one point, I forget who it was.

It was like someone leaning on a nine iron from 172 into 18 was like, oh, that's a stock. Dude, when I, it's downwind one and there's, that's how far pros hit nine irons. That's not that shocking anymore. That's separate issue, but I think this highlights, yeah, I don't know how you ever gonna grow the game when like one of, grow, grow your audience. I hate grow the game. How how you ever gonna grow the game when like one of grow grow your audience.

I hate grow the game. How you're ever gonna grow your audience if what non hardcore golf fan went out of their way to stream this today? Like you can't it is the barrier to entry for streaming is higher than anyone wants to believe that it is. We got texts from guys that play on tours that were like, hey, how do I watch this? I don't know how to watch this, you know? And it's a shame because I thought overall,

I thought it was a pretty good broadcast. I thought so too. Yeah. They had three guys to cover. They sprinkled in Cypher and Woodland a little bit, but other than that, it was like, cool. If this is a three-man match, bring it to us. And so I thought they mostly did that.

And then, you know, and then of course all this happens. Yeah. So. And I don't want everybody to think that we're just not doing the hamster damn thing this week just because I'm back or something like that. Yeah, no, this was a call for. This was people were fired up about this.

And gosh, it would have been sick if they still weren't. I mean, we, the reason why it's worth discussing is we bitched about this when you couldn't even live stream it and they adjusted to be able to do it, which at the time I remember being like, what the hell, this has been a possibility the whole time and you just haven't done it until people actually complained about it, so I don't know,

maybe they'll be changed, well, it won't be this year, I can promise that, but maybe in the future hopefully, something there has to be a better answer than, ooh, the contract, so it's a good answer. I mean, you, something there has to be a better answer than, oh, the contract. Well, I mean, you would think the contract would be easier to navigate if the PGA tour has a stake in. Whatever they're calling golf. Whatever they're calling it now. All right, you ready to move down to the list to Brooks Keppka, first person?

Oh, I would love to. This, I think it was, was it Tuesday or Monday? It was, it wasn't necessarily the most timely thing. He could have done it Sunday night as Bryson was marching on to victory, but Brooks Capca tweets a jiff from Eastbound and down of Kenny Powers having an incident after a steroid infused incident, which you don't, he didn't mention any names with it, but, you know, piecing two and two together here. I believe it was directed at Bryson coming off the win. I was disappointed to hear that Brooks had was,

at one point committed to the Memorial, and then no longer committed to it. And all of a sudden, Mrs. the Cut Friday and commits the next week's Memorial. That was a rollercoaster of emotions because if he's gonna call out for steroids, you better be there at the event. It was Tuesday at 3 p.m.

Okay, so. Yeah, that's a little late for that. It was Tuesday at 3 p.m. Okay. Yeah, that's a little late for that. But I think it's Brooks kind of proving to everybody, like, yo, I don't like him. I don't know what day of the week it is, man. I don't care. I'm not watching the golf. He probably didn't know until Tuesday.

He also tweeted or replied to a golf digest Instagram. It's like a dumb caption contest thing. Brooks like upset and he captioned it with like, when, when, so Paige McKenzie had called for Brooks to get suspended for this tweet, which is, she's, that's amazing. Don't even get me started. Amazing take, but he says, when you turn on the TV

and at page whatever is talking, and so he, he definitely heard it and rolled his eyes at that comment, but. And then Bryson took his, Bryson, his, his Bryson took his bonds took his trophy to, uh, yeah, to the to the stay chaos in Dallas. Like he's he's walking around with his rocket mortgage. So he like, it's like, it's a green jacket or the clear a jug or something. Well, the video, the good, I don't know if he's like starting a production company or

what's going on. I think he hired Antonio Brown. I got to say. Yeah, the same. Browns. He's making hype videos on his Instagram and made a minute, 52nd, whatever, a 52nd long video of him just pounding drivers. And what I believe to be Chris Comos living room, I don't know. I'm not really following where that was or what.

Was that a camera on the other side of the net that kept getting him up and which I don't know. I'm not really following where that was or what not. Was that a camera on the other side of the net that kept getting enough? And which I don't know why that camera view wouldn't be used in this. But so the video starts them swinging, swinging, and then the clips just get faster and faster and faster until it's him just whacking driver. And it ends with a screenshot of showing that he had 144 miles an hour club head speed, which is off the charts. Like Cam Champ is like 130 and Bryce, right? That's like legitimate long drive contender speed. And the caption was leveling up, correct? Yes.

Okay. So I think honestly that he needed a week off to like rebuild some, get some strength back to be like, no, I'm just kind of fading coming down the stretch with my driver. I think that's gonna be a big thing. Yeah. Especially as we get into, no, I'm just kind of fading coming down the stretch with my driver. I think that's going to be a big thing. Yeah. Especially as we get into the fall,

it's probably more of a thing now, because it's so hot where he's losing water weight and he's struggling to work out as much just because he's exerting more, more energy on course. But yeah, I mean, it's definitely going to be something where, you know, he needs to take every few weeks off. Well, I want to, I meant to look this up. There was a report somewhere in an Irish newspaper, I believe that a, uh, he

just started floating the question about all the intake Bryson has had. And the two questions that are out there that I believe he proposed, I, forgive me, I don't have the name in front of me was has Bryson been tested for, you know, has,son been tested for, has there been a drug test? Since he's come back from, as the tour just shifted their focus to COVID. And to, like,

And it's so what kind of drug? Because that's the other thing, from a drug perspective, I don't think they're testing for what these guys will be using. No, and Brewery has said in the past, like I could take HGH if I wanted to, not be detected and stuff like that. But the other thing is the hotness of the driver.

Are they still testing equipment? I haven't heard anything on that. And they're not really letting much media on site to ask people these questions. So it's... Or, you know, equipment guys, either. There's not a whole, I mean, there's a few, you know, but it's not the full staffs and everything like that. So I doubt the testers are essential personnel.

Yeah, sorry. So I found the nameers are essential personnel. Yeah, sorry. So I found the name and I regret finding it because I don't know how to say it, but Maliki, Klerken, and it's from the Irish Times. And the question is, does D-Shambos transformation raise this questions, but who will ask them? So I think it's important to phrase it that way.

Like, just look, let's get some answers to these questions. No one is saying, Bryson, you're on steroids, blah, blah, blah. I've seen a lot of the jokes and I've kind of rolled my eyes at it, but I also would be like, yay, that's the reason why you test. It's like, I like to have some answers to those questions. No one is saying Bryson, you're on steroids, blah, blah, blah. I've seen a lot of the jokes and I've kind of rolled my eyes at it. But I also would be like, yeah, that's the reason why you test. I was like, I like to have some answers to those questions. Also, yeah, from a behavior perspective, you know, I mean, our friend Latimer from the program, he, you know, he was rodered out of his mind and he was freaking out on people, you know, like there's some anger things that go along with steroids. Tony Fienau hit 206 ball speed in a Twitter video. So which that outweighed the fact that he shot 59

and bogey. Yeah, bogey on 18 or 17 won the last two holes. He played the last two holes in one over. He was 14 under through 16 shot 59 at his home course, which maybe you know, maybe he's not a killer. What what do we think about some of the lines that Bryson's gonna take at Memorial? Well, the one that Phil took,

what hole was that on the front line that Phil took the other day? Did he go way left on three? Is that the part five? Five and seven are the part fives on the front. So what I was pulling up, a fun new thing to do is pull up Google Earth of golf courses and see what the 330 to 350 carries are that Bryson could consider considering,

you know, on the variant, variant wins. So Roy Sabatini played number three, which if you don't know what number three at Mirafield Village looks like, it is just a very obvious iron off the T to a fairway and then it goes back across this pond to the left. Rory hits what I believe to be driver up near four T to just avoid the water overall. And I guess chip from on top that hill. He made birdie when he made bogey in round four when he did it, but on Friday, he did it and made birdie. So Bryce, it's like a three 30 something carry to the front of that green. Now it's a very narrow green.

I think at the very front, it's, I don't know, something like 15 yards wide. I doubt we see Bryce and do that, but that's possibility. So Mikkelson on five in round two, cut the corner, hit one, 368 to the right rough, had 113 yards in. Really? On five.

Which is on five. 530 yard dog leg right, par five with a creek running all the way up the left side. Right. And I guess he was talking to some guys on the putting green when they restarted. I think Fira gas him about it. And he was like, yeah dude, like.

Holy crap. Like I took it. You know, I mean, he's taking it over houses and stuff. Yeah, that, I didn't think about that line, because Bryce and I thought I'm Bryce and might go to that second fairway on five. On the other side of the fair. Which yeah, even if the teas are back on 14,

could we see him take driver and try to drive 14? It's gonna be interesting. I mean, none of the bunkers in the play form. There's one on 17 that's like 325 carry, but that used to play downwind, you can hit three with over that probably if he wants to. So I think we skipped over like Brooks. Yeah.

Kind of just thinking it was what? How many over this week through, I mean his first nine, he started on the back. It was five over, shut 40 on the front, 41 on the, on the his front nine. Like, yeah, with bogies on both the par-fives on his front nine. Statistically, with with bogies on both the par five's on his front nine, statistically, you know, he was hitting 40, 42% of the fairways in his first round. 61%

of greens didn't put well. And then don't see any stats for his second round. So, yeah, I mean, I don't know what, you know, it seemed like he played battery shot 69 second round. So are we concerned at all about him? Do we think he's not out, I mean, he's also the playoff bubble right now. I mean, he's 156th. Which is a weird, weird conversation to have. I mean, it has not been, not been a good year.

I know, I don't know. We're late in the season. This is not necessarily code related. I don't know how many, exactly how many starts he's had this year, but it's not, he should not be this far out. I am surprised to see him adding this week. It seems like a little bit of, you know,

and it's a lot. His quotes on it too are a little bit unbrooks-like. Like, yeah, I'm trying to get in the playoffs and I need this and all that. And like, like, hey, I guess Minnesota is a better venue for him, but it just seems like, all right, like put all your eggs in the basket of playing well there and one or two other places, Memphis, you know.

Yeah, it's got nine starts this year for the whole year as best finish. He did finish seventh at Heritage. Yeah, I don't know, it's gonna be a weird dash. He's gonna play five weeks in a row. I think leading up into this, which I mean, if you had all this time off though, you should, that's understandable, I guess.

So moving on. Oh, and then, yeah, so Brooks and Bryson. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so I don't think it's even a possibility to pair them together this week. So share this, yeah, I hadn't thought of this. So Brooks is caddy, unless Ricky Elliott, Brooks is caddy. Great player in Ricky Elliott, Brooks is caddy.

Great player in his own right. Yeah, great player in his own right. Great guy. He tested positive a few weeks ago for the COVID mate. And I guess he's still, still having some trouble. It seemed like that was an issue this week with a few guys who had previously tested positive who, Watney, Fertelli, who's the other one.

Nick Taylor. No, no, Taylor was the other one. Nick Taylor? No, Taylor was coming back just off of a layoff, but... But he was still, I thought he was testing... No, Taylor was like not playing the last four weeks out of the, out of the bunch of cautious. An excessive abundance of cautious. Because he didn't want to expose himself to it, and of course he was paired with Fertelli and those guys.

Yeah, so I guess Brooks is either gonna have to play with those guys in champ or just not. Not in Ricky on the bag, but. Or play by himself. Right. So I guess any hopes of us having Brooks and Bryson together. And then if Brooks, let's say Brooks makes a run in Saturday, Sunday, he would have to play by himself,

which is bizarre. It is bizarre. I hope that is not the case. Maybe I hope you keep the same caddy for this week. No offense to Ricky, but I want to see Bryson and Brooks this week. If there wasn't that excuse, and I shouldn't say excuse, there wasn't that reasoning and they didn't pair these two together, then I honestly would be questioning why anyone would follow the game anymore, like why we were doing this. Like it would be steering away from controversy in the worst possible way. Like they are publicly calling each other out. They want it.

They want it. Like give it to us. And if they, I am pre-upset about this because I could see a situation where they wouldn't do it. So they, and they put Ricky on PGA tour live every single week. So it's not like you guys aren't gerrymandering this stuff anyway. So please, please do this. No more fans at the moral or PJ tour events for the rest of the year, obviously, which a bunch of caution. That was broken earlier last week. We're in a, in a,

a symptom-based model. Yeah. You know, which I love that they backdated that to July 1st, instead of like, you know, like you guys just made just yeah, just totally made that up on the fly on like July 6th or July 7th. Um, yeah. And as we mentioned at the top, Mark Warren won the challenge tour with without a caddy, which is I think it takes me to the end of my notes. And then to our segments, I believe unless you got anything else you want to add. Yeah. I just wanted to so for next week, I wanted to ask you, do you think Jack figures out a way to make, you know, get himself into the booth or zoom yourself onto the toilet. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, 100%.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Jack will be in there for at least, at least 30 minutes, I would think. You agree? At least 30 minutes on Sunday, probably a couple hours on Saturday. Oh, I would have to think so. Yeah, he wouldn't miss that for the world. So I had heard some rumors that I might have even been from you, I don't remember,

but that when they started looking into, they looked into other places around Columbus to have this tournament and Jack flex on them and said, like, no, not having it anywhere else, you're having it here in Columbus. That's, that is straight rumor, but that adds up to me. Were they looking at Sao-da?

I heard Sao-da and I'd have to check who told me this, what the other one was, but Sao-da, Sao-da would be my candidate, I think, would be the best possible one. Which checks extra on happy with Sao-da right now, too, because they're... They're ripping out all this stuff. That checks out. That definitely checks out. And then, yeah, I'm really curious, you know, next week, they have full license to completely kill the greens. Yeah. Because they're ripping the place. That's right. Yeah. After anyway. So I want to see, I want to see him take it past the limit. Yeah. The Jeff Oglefield, I think said this on the Friday pod. Well, once I've never stopped thinking about it was the tour is so good at never getting it wrong. Like imagine setting up that many whole locations and never having one that was too much.

But that goes back to our initial talk at the beginning of the pod about, like, it's crazy how little the eight footers break. Exactly. But I'd be surprised if it'd be really cool if they got it super baked out. But I don't think that's going to create great TV because of what we talked about in the beginning too. If it's super firm on the greens, all everybody's going to roll through the green and end up a foot into the deep rough Yeah, it's going to be the same shot over and over and over again and that gets boring. It does put more of a premium on hitting fairways

Yes, yeah coming in from the right angle. Yeah Some but like if you miss like everyone's going to miss in the same exact spot It's I don't know it'd be harder to separate yourself. We're gonna see some serious rubber the greens next week as far as divots go. You think there's gonna be that bad? I mean, like on 14, like I don't see it. Yeah, there's not enough space.

I think there's only so many places you can set that pan-up and guys are still gonna be laying up to 100 yards out. I think they're resodding some of those spots. They were taking divots from the range. I heard something about that. They were going to be regrassing some air, not regrassing, but literally taking peltz and replacing divots and growing them back in. I don't think anybody's playing tomorrow. I think they're having everyone off the course Monday and just doing a full

maintenance day Monday. Interesting. I should be better research on that, but I'm sure you're right. Yeah, because like nine would seem to be one that would be an issue. Well, everybody's laying up to the same spot anyway. Yeah. I could see that. Oh, the more reason to move the tee up on 14. Oh, Levin, if you're not going for it, a lot of guys are laying up to the same spot. Send it on 14 or else you risk laying up into a divot.

There you go. Move the tee up. You have a, you hate to see it of the week. Let's get into some segments. Oh my gosh. You know what, so between it and yesterday, the guy on the boat out in Tahoe, at the celebrity event, there was a guy wearing a lime,

neon green, like tennis ball shirt on a boat that looked like he was about to puke. And I didn't even really notice him at first. I just heard David Bruganio cairying for Oscar de la Hoya, which David Bruganio, if you're not aware, he's in the midst of it. He's got two starts left. He's been on a major medical extension, quote unquote, for 15 years now. Get truly amazing.

It's a few hundred thousand dollars tax-free every year from the tour. Just taking advantage of the system. Is that, was that rubber the green? Or is, I thought you were going to say, that's the green shirt, that was going to be a really good green shirt. No, I thought the green shirt, I don't think the green shirt guy is going to, like he was, he either puke right after that or blacked out, it was not a good scene. So I hated to see that.

My hate to see it was no laying up so in Tron Carter tweeted out some images of a grass island within a bunker at the new PGA course that is being done by Gil Hansen, our friend Jim Wagner. They looked awfully phallic shape there in the bunker. And you hate to see that the PGA, you know, went in and deleted the post because I thought it was funny. It was clearly an ode to our friend,

Mr. Wagner, who has a very juvenile sense of humor. And that's just something, you know, at the end of the day, you really do hate to see. I'm sure he won't, he won't mind me saying this. Tom Pasley from Pinellar Street, shout out to his God, Jim Wagner. What a gem. I love that.

My other minor one was you did hate to see Ryan Paulor made a nine on the 16th hole this week, which is the rare sex temple bogey. You don't see those two often in the pediatric. When you do, you hate to see it. I do hate to see as well. All the WDs, there were some weather delays and all that. A lot of guys that were well outside the mix that were clearly not going to make the cut. They WD, I think it was disrespectful to work day

and to the CEO and Neil Boucher, and really to Mr. Nicholas as well. I would have never have been this week from Memorial. I just think I remember that even Pat Perez, when we were out that one year, Pat Perez, he was playing with two other guys on, it was on a Friday, he was clearly going to miss the cut. He plays his last six or seven holes

in like, you know, 45 minutes. Steve Lowry withdrew and we're like, hey man, like, why did you even come back out? He's like, dude, you get fucking roasted by the tour and by everybody if you withdraw from Jack's tournament. So I'm not, I'm not even going there. The, you have a rubber, the green. Let's see here. You go first. All right. Easy rubber, the green this week. I was kind of, I was, I felt very stymied on this until the very end, which was JT's three wood on the 10th hole in the playoff ends up a foot directly behind a tree. It, it's something you hate to see and it is truly just the rubber of the green.

But if you spray three, squarely three weds, you're probably gonna get into a behind a tree on one of them. I mean, really the weather today was the rubber of the green. It forced, I wonder if it ever come down. It forced all this into, you know, all this broadcast stuff into motion. I also wanna say, you know, a kind of a reverse rubber of the green here,

prohibiting the rubber of the green from taking over. John Rom and I forget who he was playing with on Thursday or Friday, specifically calling out like, Hey, can you mark that ball? And it was, it was beautiful. It was Gary Woodland and someone else that they were, he was playing with, I think, I don't remember exactly who it was. It was, it was exceptional. I feel like I saw a couple of times people, I think more, Cal, did it at one point, waited for guys to get up there and mark their ball.

Which is great. You do love to see soapbox Sunday. What do you got? I want to shout out Haley Moore out of the cactus tour. Hold a can Duke. She shot, she won for the, what the third time I think on that tour. Since, since the quarantine started, she shot 62. I found around 62. Next closest, Nobody else was even in the 60s. So she's truly absurd. She's going to be a force to be reckoned

with. I don't care who your competition is. That is insane. No, and like going up, you know, like going down the list of players, like these are, there's good players. No, I'm not even taking a shot at the competition. I'm saying no matter the competition, if you blow people away by eight, that's nuts. Yeah. Yeah. So that was, that was up there for me. Should be playing in Toledo.

LPGA comes back into this month in Toledo. And yeah, we'll see if she can play her way into the, the Rico Women's British Open. Yeah. That's, which is, I got several soap boxes, but one of the things I had on there, I wanted to make sure we mentioned that the Riko British Open is alive and kicking. That's gonna be at Royal Trune,

as well as the Women's Scottish Open is going to be at Renee Sons. I don't know if they're back to back weeks. I think they are in back to back weeks. And they're like, they're doing Pauli Shore bio-dom. Yeah. You know, very strict bubble. So that's great to see. Since we won't see, of course, the open championship, the

bridge, sorry, the UK version, open presented by our majesty. We won't see that at Royal St. George's this year, but we will get to see the women play at Royal Troum, which is exciting. My soapbox Sunday, I got three different things. The Ryder Cup officially postponed now, which we've been holding off on saying forever, even though everyone knew this was happening. For good reasons, you can't have fans there. I understand it. Let's delay it a year. So let's go the complete opposite direction during that week. I want a made for TV mixed gender event that week, mixed team event. Get some LPGA players and PGA players together. You can't tell me that I guess I should look this up. I don't know if the LPGA has an event

that week. I'm saying for the men, you can't say they had something going on because they don't and they make it for charity, do whatever it can be silly. I don't, I don't care what it is. It can be the match more so more like the match than it would be the writer cup or soulheim cup or presence cup or anything like that. But give me give we people have been craving this kind of mix. How great was it go back and watch in the high woods when onica played with like Fred funk and tiger and stuff like that. That's great. Like give me give me that crossover. We've got the Kia classic that that hurts the case. So we got we go we go a N A Portland Kia and then the Meyer LPGA is canceled, but the shop right got moved. Okay.

Well, let's pay some of the top women a bunch of money, continue with the Kia classic and then also showcase them at this May for TV event. So I don't know. I think it's going to be really interesting on the LPGA like the are the Korean players? Are they hunkered down over here? Or are they playing Korean tour right now? Are they like, how's that working? Yeah. Quickly too. We have a new Wild World of Golf coming soon. We filmed this week at Winter Park with Madeline Saxstrom and Annie Park. That one is going to be a lot of fun. TC plays left handed in for the first full look at TC's game left handed. And lastly, our friends at the open and the RNA, they're hosting something called an open for the ages this week.

It's going to be on Golf Channel from Thursday through Sunday. It's an interactive opening, open. It features clips and a storyline from the past open championships at the old course. We've got a sneak preview at it. It's awesome. You're going to see, like they basically just took a bunch of highlights and made their own broadcast out of it. So, you know, you can kind of predict as to how some of this stuff is going to go, who's had great rounds and great events at the old course. And they're going to make a tournament

out of it. It's going to come down to the wire. I would imagine at minimum, we get to watch four days of golf through the years at the old course. And that is going to be a win for everyone. And that is just the most mind numbing task of stitching all this together and creating this story. They're going to have announcers announcing it as if it's live. It's going to be like Jack is going to be involved. Tigers obviously going to be involved. There's going to be Rory and imagine there's going to be Sevy, Fowdo, all kinds of stuff, all mixed together and one. It's going to be awesome. So that is coming. This would have been open championship week.

And we get to see some of that this week, which I'm excited about. Couple more housekeeping items. Corn Farrier Tour this week. David Lipsky, congratulations to him. One by four shots, 62-66 on the weekend. Taylor Pendress second, and then Paul Haley finished T3. So you'd just see him.

Ollie Schneider-Jans playing well, Christopher Ventura, Victor Houghlin's more Ouija and counterpart, top 10. So good to see that. And then we haven't talked to any Formula One. Oh, I know. That's more kind of trap, John Lane. Yeah, you know what? We've already recorded part two of the Columbus thing. Okay. Well, you know what? We've already recorded it. That's right.

Two of the Columbus things. Okay. Well, I got no more golf stuff. So if you want to sign off now, go ahead, but we can talk some for me. The one second, ever for me, the one race of every watch. It's a lot of people warned us week one that we watched was last week. It was, hey, this is incredible. Don't get used to this. I think week two was much more like what a normal race is like. A lot less cautions. But I thought I was equally as attentive to everything. Because I think, and I thought about this today,

it comes back so much to the announcers and how on point they are for everything and how they lay things out for you. I know what I'm watching for. And I'm watching guys kind of, you know, trying to overtake, you know, between six and seventh place and they're spotting like, hey, the Renault, like they should let Ricardo, Daniel Ricardo go around

Espanol con because of this strategy, he's on these tires and all this. For a novice, even that is like easy to digest. And just the whole treat, treat the viewer like they're smart and they'll catch up on us. Exactly. And I actually got into some F1 podcast this week, just kind of, and they, it's not meant for intro to F1 people,

but I'm keeping up. I don't know everything, but I'm kind of like, oh, so this is like what the quote unquote experts are talking about. Now I know to look out for this stuff the next time I watch it. And I'm fully, fully immersed as a fan. I don't know, so cool to see like how they laid everything out. Like once Max Verstappen got past, it was like

very obvious he was going to get passed by Botos coming down the stretch that, all right, now he's going to go back into the pit and get new tires because he's, he can't catch both of us. That one point for the, so like it was signs Hamilton and Verstappen going after that one point. Fastest lap point. Yeah. Yeah. Well, also I think Verstappen was just like, all right, I'm going to get off these tires to make sure I hold on to third as well.

And he had the time and the cushion to do it. What's so interesting about it is it's and I think I said this last week, it's not about who wins. Like the whole thing is not contingent on who wins golf is. Yeah. I mean, we saw a lot of of like Hamilton one going away today, but I don't think we saw him race at all. It was just, it was that fifth, sixth battle.

Yeah, you know. Now, it was, it was excellent. So there wasn't a ton of overtaking. We got, we need to digest kind of the new, the DRS and all that stuff, because I, I don't know, I don't know how I feel about it necessarily. It kind of just seems like you get like a Mario Kart booster

and can just blow past someone and I get that that's kind of part of the deal and that's the reason for the excitement. But I don't know. Something. What did you see the late breaking news today? Yes. After the race, the Renault has filed a formal protest about racing points. I don't know, just their car in general, if it's fair or not.

They've made drastic move up the grid. They're much faster. I'm kind of... I love teams lobbing shots at each other. It's kind of been a joke over the last couple weeks that I've been riding for Sergio Perez and Lance Stroll, but like the more I watch them, the more I kind of like... Sergio Perez had a great race today, which, and I wonder what the hardcore F1 fans would say about the drive to survive series,

but they kinda make Sergio look out to be like, all right, well, he's got all the sponsors and that's why he earned his spot on the team and Ocon ended up losing his spot to Perez because of blah, blah, blah. But that's the thing with Stroll. It's like everybody shits on him, but he keeps up.

He keeps up. Driving pretty well. And then. Ferrari's a complete disaster. Oh my god. Like that guy that Mateo or whatever he, he just seems like he has no control. Right. He's lost the locker room. LeClaire was, he put his hand up and said, shop shop shop.

He put his hand up and admitted the fault in, uh, in Bumbe's own teammates of Astrum Vettel and they both were off within three laps or something like that. It was, I think within the first lap. It was, it's very, they hit on the first lap. I thought, I think LeClarica made it around a couple more times, but yeah.

It didn't realize. Yeah, it was, they called him in. But, hey, CM, my guy, George Russell. Yeah, I think I just laughed. Struggle after such a, like, so it was so interesting to see him finish 12th and qualifying, and granted granted it was raised within margins and qualifying the qualifying was wild that was better than the race wet tires yeah I'm

starting to learn the tire strategy now to get this so so T.K. Kelly sent me this this video earlier today uh Herman Tilkey her Herman Tilkey he's this he's basically the Faz Sashri's Jones of, he's designed pretty much all of the new tracks that they're on. So the one in Abu Dhabi, the one in Singapore, and then made a circuit of the Americas and made some substantial changes

to some of the other ones. And it's very formulaic. Like he's doing the same shapes and the same kind of set up on all of these. And they need more diversity of moves and tracks and all that. So very interesting video, I'll post that,

but I thought it was like there's so many parallels with golf and that just kept it going to wear. Because there's so many little variables, like how wide is the track? What are the sequences of turns, all these things? And then also, maybe the tour should look at doing like a final round, lowest round in the final round. Get some FedEx cup bonus.

Get some FedEx cup bonus. Mm, love that. So even if you're out of it, you're going for broke. I love that. McLaren still, some Mercedes has more than double points of anybody already. Like they, they must be just be the, I mean, clearly they're the Yankees. Like I didn't realize it was going to be this bad this quickly.

Total wolf. No face shield. That was a big lead bomb about that. Bump our guys from haus are officially listed on the F1 website now. They in the standings. They were not listed last week. They are, of course, 10th with zero points, tied with Williams. Red Bull, I'm seeing now how much of a disaster week one was for Red Bull, because they got 27 points this week in our second or in third behind McLaren, which McLaren doesn't seem long for that second spot.

Your boy, Lonto. You know. He had a great final lap again. That was nuts. Yeah. Gosh, so that's the thing is if you know That wasn't one of the exciting races. I was glued to it the whole time I couldn't find a time to go the bathroom and no commercials makes it easy to I

Hundred percent watched it over golf this morning. I did not have golf on TV I had that on my computer and I had f1 on the TV Yeah, so we got a Hungarian Grand Prix next week and then a week off So it involved people watch the watch the f1 series and let's go and they added a bunch of So we got a Hungarian Grand Prix next week and then a week off. I'm still involved. People watch the watch the F1 series and let's go. And they added a bunch of, they had like three or four new races too. Added another one in Italy and then a few other ones. So stoked.

All right, let's wrap it at that. Thank you, everyone, for tuning in. It's going to be me. I have a special guest going to be wrapping up the memorial this week because everyone's going to be on the road, but me this coming week. It's going to be my, my have a special guest gonna be wrapping up the memorial this week because everyone's gonna be on the row but me this coming week, it's gonna be my ladies bachelor at party here in Jackson. I'm gonna be living in the kill house next week.

So yeah, I'm moving back in. So, but TC, enjoy the rest of your Sunday. We rarely get to enjoy our Sundays. This is, I don't know what I'm gonna do with the rest of my day, but we are gonna enjoy it. So thanks everybody for tuning in. We'll see you again next week. Cheers.

Crack on Warren. Get a right club. Be the right club today. Yes. Be the right. That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most.

Better than most. Better than most. Better than most.