No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 338: Round 1 PGA Championship Recap

Episode Date: August 7, 2020

This episode features our audio from our Thursday live show directly after coverage ended of the first round of the PGA Championship. We chat Jason Day, Brendon Todd, Bryson, Brooks, The Cat, Rory, Sp...ieth, Rose, the rest of the leaderboard, Harding Park, ESPN+, CBS, and a ton more. More of these to come the rest of the week! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah! That's better than most. How about in? That is better than most. Better than most! Expect anything different. We are recording.
Starting point is 00:00:23 We are recording. We are recording. We are recording. We are recording. We are recording. Better than most! Expect anything different! We are recording. This is it. This is day one recap, live show here from the Kill House DJ is not here, as you may have may have seen. T.C. is here. The big guy is here. Hello everybody. Big day. We're going to first talk to you a little bit about, of course, our friends at Coway. We're gonna bring a little visual element to this. You might be watching this live,
Starting point is 00:00:49 you might be listening to it on our podcast feed, but we've talked about the triple track golf ball, simple concept, three lines on the putter, three lines on the ball. We got a little putter here too, this is for Neil, for Taurus sauce, right here. You can see you can line up the triple track on both of them.
Starting point is 00:01:04 It's basic science people. 88% of golfers are better aligned with triple track. That's a lot. It's a lot of percent. Some people use it only on the greens. Some people use it on the entities. You can do whatever you want. Neil loves it.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Some people hate it. Tron, I think you hate it. Yeah, do we want to say that? That's in the coffee. That's in the coffee. I hate it. I'm a non-linear player. So I do not care for it.
Starting point is 00:01:25 I think it's bullshit that Neil is kicking. He's running around on Kisha, or Monique, or who've ever to the curb. He claims he treats him so well. He doesn't. No, he doesn't. It's just a number to him. Phil uses the ball, Dylan Fertile uses the putter, and the ball.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Give it a try, available on the Crumpsoft, Crumpsoft X, ERC soft, and a full line of Odyssey putters. CowboyGolf.com and OdysseyGolf.com for more on Triple Trek. I'm also not good enough at lining it up. I do it too. I always walk away and it's like, oh, that's left. So maybe that's why 88% of golfers are improving their alignment. So all right, biggest takeaways from day one, big Randy.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Let's start with you. It was a good weather day. I thought it made for an interesting course. I thought it presented enough challenge. The wind picked up in the afternoon. I think the leaderboards are really good. For the most part, you know, the couple sleepers, a couple sleepers cells, and a couple guys I think we wish would have played better, but all in all, I think it's shaping up
Starting point is 00:02:26 to be a very exciting next three days. TC, how much golf do you watch today? What'd you think? I watched some early, and then I went to the beach for... Did you time it around five to a year? Yeah, because I don't know, I wish I would have and I actually could have tried to get tomorrow. It's really nice if you would.
Starting point is 00:02:41 For no reason in particular. Yeah, no, I watched early. I actually subscribed to ESPN Plus already. So I actually got my money's worth out of it. We're gonna get to that some of that. A lot of people did not love that. I would assume it's not the people that are, you know, want craving more golf
Starting point is 00:02:57 to content at 10 p.m. right now, but there's some takes out there on that. Yeah, no, I mean, I thought I caught most of Brooks's round. That was a tour to force. He looked just like on cruise control. You know what I felt like? The fact that we do a pick show for all these things. And as soon as he starts going off again at a major, I felt like Gunther Steiner. I was like, I thought we were going to look like rock stars and we look like fucking wankers. How do we not all pick Brooks to win these things? I don't understand it.
Starting point is 00:03:25 If I had to do my pickover right now, obviously I would take Brooks. The big, I think the big story of the day is Scottie Schuffler, right? Of course, to you, the big story of the day is, he was smoking hot. He was crazy hot. You know, he was, he was leader from the very start.
Starting point is 00:03:41 It was very good round. He's T3 now. I'm not the only one that thinks he slips every time he hits it, right? I'm up every time. I'm like, oh, dude, oh, you just slipped. How is that going accurately? It's funny, because seeing everybody kind of figure out
Starting point is 00:03:54 they're like, oh, Scotty looks like he's 35. Like, yeah, like, where the hell have you guys been for the last two or three or five years? His back's like 55, isn't it? Allegedly. Yeah, I mean, Chitty, he won the US Junior Amit. five years when his back's like 55 and allegedly. Yeah, I mean, Chitty won the US junior am at Martis Camp at Tahoe. He's been on the map for a long time. People need to start respecting the Scotty.
Starting point is 00:04:16 It wouldn't be Thursday of a major if Tron wasn't taking a victory lap. Can we go back to something you said real quick? You're jumping off the Bryson bandwagon after one day. No, I'm not jumping off the bandwagon. I'm just reminded of, dude, of course, like Brooks is going to win this. How many times do we see this? That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Well, no, I don't disagree with you. I just think it's interesting. He's only, what Bryson finished, 200? 200, he's not done. He's definitely not done. The afternoon played a little bit more difficult. He had some weird course management. Yeah, that back nine was a little funky.
Starting point is 00:04:45 I made the four iron on 16. Which the whole point of the whole driving thing I would think is to drive 16. And I don't know, the driver shaft will get into some of that. Let's talk about the cat. I actually think the cat's performance today was worthwhile of kind of leading the show with it. It was fine.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Yeah, it was pretty good. It was fine. He was in pretty good control of his golf ball. Yeah. The putter I thought was gonna be an issue. You know, changing from the Scotty, the Scotty right before a tournament is not a good sign no matter how much he downplayed it.
Starting point is 00:05:15 The quote about it was that he has been using the longer putter because it doesn't hurt his back as much when he's practicing was alarming yet also, like made me smile and cry at the same time, I think, which is, that's the sad reality that he can't practice putting with a normal height putter. The reality is we're planning the microclimate, right? It is a microclimate.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Which didn't seem to be an issue. According to Brando, he led the field today in driving distance. If you go by the two drives to get measured. Yeah, which, first of all, shout out to the PGA tour and then, which, he was excited. First of all, shout out to the PGA tour, and then we bag on him a lot. But most majors and shout out to the PGA of America for letting the PGA tour do shot-length.
Starting point is 00:05:52 The fact that there is stroke-skinned stats and all sorts of good stats from this major. Like, it always feels so backwards when you go to Augusta, or you go to the open championship presented by her majesty. UK Bridge Open. Uh, uh, uh, or the US Open. And there's no stats.
Starting point is 00:06:11 I know. Can't get any stats. Yeah. So, how many takes? Thank you for that. I appreciate that. Um, but yeah, I mean, I just, you know, he's, he's off late tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:06:21 And then, To meet some premium viewing Friday evening. Yeah. Yeah, East Coast time is going to be nice. It feels like what do you call the day before moving day? Like I feel like tomorrow packing day. Yeah. Tomorrow's boxing day. I did think they kind of got the the groupings a little out of balance. The morning was so far ahead of like star power wise and entertainment wise. Then the afternoon was probably trying to get that Friday afternoon, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:45 bang for the buck coming in. It didn't help that the like a the conditions were tough from the afternoon and be wrong. Uh, some of the other guys. Yeah, I mean, struggle. They did not play well. Web struggled in that afternoon. Um, I thought hardening park.
Starting point is 00:07:01 I listen, I was a little nervous about the setup. I'm going to be honest. Everything I'd heard is going to play long. The rough was thick. Thought I was going to be a Beth Page rerun. I thought it playeding Park, I, listen, I was a little nervous about the setup, I'm gonna be honest, everything I'd heard is gonna play long, rough was thick, thought I was gonna be a Beth Page rerun, I thought it played a good decent balance. I think the bombers are gonna win out. I don't think Zac Johnson's gonna stick around.
Starting point is 00:07:13 I don't think Brandon Todd's gonna stick around, just that's my honest opinion. Of course, I'd love that if it would be the case for the Todd thing, not the Zac Johnson thing. Just to be clear. But a lot better balance in that leaderboard than I would have thought. I thought there was a lot of different shots and skills that were tested. I tried to talk you off the ledge a couple of days ago.
Starting point is 00:07:32 What? The controllables, I still don't think they did a great job with. Narrowing it and growing up rough is very controllable thing. I agree with the greens too, right? A little bit. Yeah. I mean, I thought it played fun. The green is a firm. I think I agree with the Greens too, right? A little bit, yeah. I mean, yeah. I thought it played fun.
Starting point is 00:07:45 The Greens are firm. I think I'm curious to see what they do with teas on certain spots. They can mix up the teas and on a variety of different holes. I just didn't think it was brute par four, brute par four, brute par four, like Beth Page was. That was boring, and this was not the case. So I'm very close to them.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I'm kind of confused by everybody, you know, bagging on the Greens. I think. What were people saying about the Greens? I don't know, but you know, bagging on the greens. I think- What were people saying about the greens? I don't know, but you know, certain people are saying, you know, they're like typical, just flatish, you know, like TPC greens. I'm like, they're not, they've got so much more going on.
Starting point is 00:08:18 They may not look like it on TV, but to me, you know, yeah, there's not massive humps and bumps, but like, those were probably some of the best greens we put it on all year last year. I couldn't figure them out all day. They were like, there was just so many subtle breaks. Yeah, and the, it's firm enough that the angles are starting to matter. And if you're playing on the rough, you pay the price.
Starting point is 00:08:38 And it is a lot more emphasis on hitting the fairway. Beth Page, no one could hit the fairways. And this, this time around, it's like, dude, you, like, you got to hit the fairway. But if you're going to miss, miss like pricing did on one way left where you have an angle the fairway, Beth Page, no one could hit the fairways. And this time around, like, dude, you got to hit the fairway. But if you're going to miss, Miss, like, Bryson did on one way left where you have an angle in, and I think that's fun. So, do you like the golf course, Randy?
Starting point is 00:08:51 Can I be, are we in the nest? Always. Of course. Guys, I couldn't remember that many holes. Dude, it's flipped. It's flipped for us, because we played it back then. Maybe that was it. I was struggling to recall, you know.
Starting point is 00:09:04 I think you and Neil were pretty faded. I think, so I think that was it. We was struggling to recall. I think you and Neil were pretty faded. I think that was it. We were kind of checked out. It was almost like I was seeing the course for the first time again. We were there like 15 months ago. Yeah. Shout out to the supers, of course. Of course. And I think those greens have a bit more zip in them. As my guy Mark Brooks was telling me all afternoon
Starting point is 00:09:26 Shout out Mark Brooks on the feature group coverage So be interesting whether they Quicken them up or you know play them a touch slow even more. I don't know what's the forecast It is it's it's more a little more wind in the morning than there was this morning But a little less wind in the afternoon. So it's pretty balanced tomorrow. So I really do think that the early groups got a great part of the draw. I thought it was going to get spicier than it did this afternoon. I guess it took a little while for it to actually bite, but I like the shaved areas around the bunkers.
Starting point is 00:09:57 I did not know that was going to be there. That is a good break from like Mirafold Village has rough between every bunker and green. And watching balls roll back into the bunkers or roll onto the green and that was a really cool balance. So, all right. So, you didn't like that I was going to change my pick from Bryson to... Not that I didn't like it. I thought it was interesting. No, so what would you do?
Starting point is 00:10:16 No, if you were to pick a winner right now, if you could start over and pick one guy to win, who would it be? I... Who was your picket from the start? Colin Moore Cowell. Okay. You know, I'm not abandoning that ship necessarily. I did also in our little draft kings thing, I was very concerned about Chase and Day and guys, he's playing really well, but the other guy I'm concerned about, he's a woken,
Starting point is 00:10:40 he's Martin Kimer. And when he's, when he's out of hibernation, you know, you get a... Freightrain coming downhill. Yeah, Yeah, so but no to your point I think obviously Brooks looks great, but you know, Bryson's right there. I'm just surprised that you would switch it so soon. You know who you mentioned I think on the on the on the draft Kings thing DB straight violin. He is still vibing. He's an exceptional golfer. Yeah. I do think Michael Renzo Verra is going to win it. Of course. Well, I love Santa. Zander was a super. He's there. Super predictable. When I think, uh, what more call of finish yet? One under one under. Okay. Well, I like to look at the leaderboard and go and see
Starting point is 00:11:19 all right, who got here in a way that's probably not sustainable. And I'm a little bit relieved to see Zach Johnson gain 4.7 strokes on the green today, not the most sustainable format he led the field. And then Brennan Todd was third in strokes game putting and Martin Kimer was fourth. So again, I'm gonna trust the people that are more likely to strike at T to green. Patrick Reed, Matt Wolf and Bryson DeShambo
Starting point is 00:11:41 were leaders off the tee and then approach shots. Of course, Tony Fino, Justin Rose, Berger, Jason Day, Matt Wolf, Sneaky, balls striking round for Matt Wolf. To be only be one under, he lost over two shots on the green. I'd like to mention Brennan Steel only had 42% of his fairways looking for a major regression from him. He's one of the sleeper cells that we're keeping a close eye We might don't know about it. I'm getting two and a half shots on the field and putting to that
Starting point is 00:12:08 How about Brooks's post-round comments? Get a little kick out of that the Narnia. No, what do you say about Brooks when he said oh Brooks is oh, sorry. I was thinking Bryson Brooks I don't live a smile on his face like you don't have to get all scientific about it, you know You know you know some people are saying oh best It's like, why is Brooks, you know, like Bryson said one thing to him on a Twitch stream one time and he just keeps banging on, I'm like, do you think that's the only thing that shithead Bryson said to Brooks along the way?
Starting point is 00:12:35 And like, yeah, it's sick. Like, Brooks started it with the slow play stuff. Because remember, he said something about, he goes in like, goes in bathroom and waits for five minutes when he's playing with a slow player and then, like, name names. And then went up to Bryson on the putting green and confronted him about it. And that's when Bryson bulked up because the big bad wolf came after him on the putting green. And then they started trading jabs back and forth. But yeah, I agree that Brooks is just looking
Starting point is 00:13:01 for a little chip in some way. But I also think there's a lot more to it too. I think Bryson's truly a dipshit. Like most of these guys fucking hate him. Oh yeah, for sure. So it goes well beyond anything with, like that's what I can't figure out with Cat. Cat should hate him too. I feel like he's fading from him.
Starting point is 00:13:21 I haven't seen them be buddy buddy lately. I don't think Cat has the energy anymore to really hate anybody. That's fading from him. I haven't seen them be buddy buddy lately. I don't think Kat has the energy anymore to really hate anybody. That's, I'll say true. But once last time there's been a fight like on the course. He's holding Mark! He's holding Mark!
Starting point is 00:13:34 Keegan and Miguel on Helly Menace. I'd love to see a brawl. I think Brooks would take Bryson. I don't think Bryson's athletic, right? Bryson's slow and lumbering. It depends on what the format would be. Boxing, I would say. Sumo wrestling?
Starting point is 00:13:52 Yeah, Sumo wrestling, I'm gonna probably take Bryson. Yeah, we talked, the driver incident with Bryson, it was, and that was exciting for about three minutes, and then it was just kind of like, all right, whatever. That was actually when I started, between the ad and CBS taking over, I was like, all right, whatever. That was actually when I started between the ad and CBS taking over. I was like, fuck this. I am out for the next couple hours.
Starting point is 00:14:10 I didn't know the rule. So I guess I learned something. I thought if your equipment broke, you were as well. Yeah, as you put it. Yeah, it was a quick judgment too. It was kind of, I mean, it didn't look like he leaned on it hard enough for it to break.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Like, I think there was something wrong with it. But he was quick to, yeah, yeah, I went way off line from where I thought it was going to go. So I knew something was wrong with it. And then, yeah, how do you, how do you measure, or how do you define the, the normal course of play? Well, it's like, you can't like slam it in anger and break it and replace it. Like, if you, but what if that's your normal kid, like course of play? That's a fair question. The Patrick Read from the US Open, I don't, you can't replace that one.
Starting point is 00:14:52 But I always thought, yeah, if you bang one off a tree or bang a club off a tree and it bends, you can't use it or can't replace it. That's what I thought, yeah. But that would strike me as normal course of play. It was just interesting to see a ruling go in Bryson's favor very quickly. The guy looked like, the guy, the real official gave his
Starting point is 00:15:08 coach or whatever a ride to the car that go get the shaft. And all he got is on the telecast, you know, made it a point to congratulate him for acting like a fucking adult. Total gentleman, complete gentleman. Yeah, like. Did we see a FedEx cup update there in the afternoon? I kind of blacked out in the afternoon,
Starting point is 00:15:24 but supposedly there was a FedEx cup update on the screen, which I, that I can't explain. a FedEx cup update there in the afternoon? I kind of blacked out in the afternoon, but supposedly there was a FedEx cup update Kim on the screen, which I that I can't explain FedEx Cup date. There you go Zach Johnson to be one of the people are confused as to why we hate Zach Johnson. Let's talk Bud call I want to talk I'll be right to talk Bud call in Zach Johnson. Okay. I got something to say about Zach Johnson And I've said it before it's nothing new. I I respect what the guy's done with his career. And I think it's commendable. That's so brave of you. And I'm so brave. I feel like he's somebody we should hold up as like an example of, you know, he's. Randy, he laid up on all 16 Parfas when he won the
Starting point is 00:15:59 last year. But apparently one even that good of a golfer at Drake, like he was like a, just another guy in the Missouri Valley in college. He seems like a great human being. He strikes me as an exceptionally cheese dicky dude. Well, I think that's, that is the, on the tombstone right there. He went, he went and blocked us on Twitter without us ever tweeting at him.
Starting point is 00:16:19 He like heard what we were about, heard about us and blocked us. Like back in like 24, he employed Damon Green for over a decade. Listen, these are multiple decades. He tapped out a spike mark before it was legal. I'm still convinced that he, they should strip the clear and jog from him.
Starting point is 00:16:35 He ate corn and he had a corn jog. Now the fucking thing, man. And you're gonna ride for him? I thought he's got a bad hairline too. I don't know if that. Well, you used to have a bad hairline until you got all the plugs. It's, it's, it's kind of, I would say it's a bit hairline too. I don't know if that... Well, you used to have a bad hairline until you got all the plugs. It's kind of, I would say it's a bit of an irrational hate.
Starting point is 00:16:50 It's not like he's given us a ton of reasons to hate him. It's like, hey, it's like a sports hate. It's just like, I just don't remember you. Sorry, but he's a corn cob. What do you have to say about Bud Colley? No, like, can he stick around? You can never count that guy out. I'll never count up on Colley Never count up, I call it.
Starting point is 00:17:05 That story goes back to what I wanted to bet him at the Masters. He was 250 to one. And he wasn't in the field, which is why he was 250 to one. And I kept threatening that whole weekend. I'm like, you do, you can't count this guy out. Justin Rose, sneaky good round of golf, huh? Rosie, they were roasting him. His draw, he was, he lost over a stroke and a half
Starting point is 00:17:25 to the field driving the ball today and hit it that go with the signs from the rough. What's he using now? Equipment. I was. I couldn't tell you. Now that he's not with Onba anymore. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:36 I did love somebody pointing this out on Twitter, Brooke, I think it was Porter. Brooke's, Brooke was asked about his driver before the tournament because he recently switched from one brand to another. We won't mention what details are of that. But he's like, yeah, they don't pay me. So I'm not going to tell you the brand.
Starting point is 00:17:49 And then juxtaposed that against Bryce's post-rock comment, talking about shilling for shafts the whole time. Can you explain your boyfriend at all today? He had such a sensible round going. And he hit a mega-queef. And then he hit the Mondo mega-queef. I thought I was in the water. I was shocked. He found it. Of course, made a mess of things trying to do something, pull off the miraculous recovery shot. And yeah, doubled that hole, but he had a couple. I thought
Starting point is 00:18:21 he potted the ball really well in the front nine, he just couldn't make any pots. Yeah, it was weird. It was like a continuation of the Memphis where he was very in control, not making mistakes and then the one hole on the back. But I think I still think he's got a little run in in the morrow. I had three, four under.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Every time I see him, I just like can't but laugh. Like he just comes on the screen. He's one of the fucking glasses. VanPel roasted. We called him Cartman glasses. That was pretty sweet. He is. He's so far. He sees coffee video. Yeah. I will say this. He continues to play the most entertaining brand of golf. Like whatever you think of him and all the antics and all of that, like watching him play golf is exceptionally exciting. I would honestly argue that Bryson plays the most entertaining style of golf now.
Starting point is 00:19:14 He's the only one that's like, if you miss something, you are, it's a risk. It is a risk. I drove over from my house to here and I was like, check, I shouldn't have been checking my phone, but checking my phone is to like, is did Bryson do something? I think the pledge time.
Starting point is 00:19:27 I was, you know, listening, you know, he's a traffic light. Come on. It will so, yeah, I mean, Bryson's the only other guy that like pops up on screen and I just start laughing. Like, especially when he's putting. Mm-hmm. Like the putting stroke is just like,
Starting point is 00:19:40 it looks so uncomfortable. They did call it out pretty good. Like his, he sounds like an Olympic lifter before he's about to hit a tee shot. Like a... Ha ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. You wanna mention your boy, Michael Lorenzo Vera?
Starting point is 00:19:54 Great lettuce. Great lettuce, that's all we need to say. Yeah, I'd look for him to go away tomorrow. Randy, Randy, I've got a step for you. Please. Tony Fina lost strokes, gain putting today. Oh boy. Oh boy. Is it his time? What are you saying? I'm just saying he hit he had a bunch of his iron play was
Starting point is 00:20:12 magnificent today. Uh, three under T 12 lost strokes on the greens. That does not portend well for you. Is there a is there a level which you guys are willing to say, this far down the leaderboard you're out? How far down the board do you have to go before you find a minute shot themselves out of the tournament today? Should we just talk? Start with Rory, he shot even part of the day.
Starting point is 00:20:37 No, he's still in it. He's still in it. I just want to hear you say it. I was so pissed I picked Rory. Immediately afterwards, I think I picked Rory. You picked him to win and also to not win. Yeah, okay, that's right, that's right. Yeah, and then I was gonna pick more of Colin.
Starting point is 00:20:51 You picked Bryson to not win, eventually. I mean, I'll say like, I think the guy's a three over, like, speed. Can't lay, speed. Yeah, I, Sunjay, Sunjay disappoints the shit out of me. Rick, I'd say can't lay's not out of it, but I would say Speed is.
Starting point is 00:21:05 It's gonna, Speed doesn't have that sustainable run. But there's so many. Cantlay's done some crazy shit in majors. But it's not like there's a bunch of, like, it's not like there's only 15 guys under par. There's like 20 guys at minus two or minus three, you know?
Starting point is 00:21:20 You could throw 64 out there though. I mean, I mean, that's what it it has to be. But we had a little side conversation about speed. Should we share it speed time? I mean, we acknowledge, of course, stinks. We've been asking the question for over three years now.
Starting point is 00:21:38 We've just been asking the question. Yeah, does speed stinks. I think he stinks. But I still think he's good enough to where he shouldn't be with the other guys at stink. Like we need to create his own space. He needs to quarantine. We're going to quarantine him.
Starting point is 00:21:52 And I think Greller needs to take over the entire program. Why don't you get your boy Greller with Fina? Fina is looking for an alpha. Well, I think I think speed needs to have Greller, priority on Greller. Let Greller go off, guide somebody to the promised land and then come back to speed. Okay. One speed figures it out, because it doesn't look good.
Starting point is 00:22:14 It doesn't look good. It's, so there's always some very obvious bad signs at golf tournaments, one, when a leader shows up three hours early before his T-Time, that is automatic 80, like that guy is not gonna win. And two, the guy that's on the range for way too long after the round. And they showed him the dudes,
Starting point is 00:22:33 he had to be done for two and a half hours. He wasn't even hitting for a while. He was sitting there like having a meditation session. Sitting Indian style with Kim McCormick. And I love it. Something's not right there. I mean, obviously. He needs to start, like, honestly,
Starting point is 00:22:49 I think he needs to start testing, like, anybody that makes a driver just, go away, ping, tailor made, like, just, let's figure out equipment wise, like how we can get him in the best driver possible for him. Cause it doesn't seem lost totally at all. You know, it's a, it's like, it's just like, it's just, I'm sure, but it's yeah. we can get him in the best driver possible for him. Because it doesn't seem lost totally at all. You know, it's like, it's just simmering under the surface.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Like it's these, but it's like it can come out at any time. And it just seems so. It's so, I struggle with it because it's like, he got to number one in the world and won three majors with cam McCormick. So it's hard to say like, cam McCormick screwed up Jordan Speed, and that's not at all what any of us are saying.
Starting point is 00:23:27 There's just, I really struggle to ever put true blame on coaches because everything is ultimately the player's responsibility, right? The coach could be saying all the right things with the players not taking it in or it's just not a great match or whatever the reason would be the only reason I would say like that you know if he I'm not even sure
Starting point is 00:23:49 I'm committed to that he needs a change he needs some kind of change. I don't know if it is coach. I know what it is is what I'm saying. Yeah, I don't know what it is either. It's just a matter of like I guess our trance of shit. Yeah, and maybe that makes you know maybe that's probably, that could very well be the recipe to go to the hinterlands forever too, and just totally mess up the remainder of your career. But I feel like at this point, you've got to try it. Yeah, we'll see. Who knows? It does make me a little sad though,
Starting point is 00:24:18 that he's kind of a non-factor right now. I like golf, it's so much less interesting with him, you know, just not in it. If he just get it in play, he'd be a factor. That's the thing. They were talking about his putting, like, oh, he really struggles from this putting distance. And he's like number two on tour from 10 to 15 feet. Like the guy can still roll it.
Starting point is 00:24:36 It just, he's putting for par from there instead of from birdie. So. And I don't think it's not like he has all this scar tissue to where he's lost tournaments in big moments. Like, yeah, you talk about a gust or whatever. But like, but it's not like he's done that a bunch of times over and over and over again. He's got a couple isolated incidents, but you know, overall, it's just like, yeah, it's just this one thing.
Starting point is 00:24:57 I don't think he's got so much scar tissue that he can't come back from it. Any other players we need to cover, we didn't talk much about Xander, but obviously he, we did. That was, I guess, if we're ready to do some coverage stuff, that was the one miss this morning, I think. A lot of people had some, had some takes on the first six hours being streaming via 499 a month ESPN plus. I believe it's, it's even five. Okay. I think it's 4 night night. I saw this morning for four night night. Okay, I got in a five, so I might have caught a bone up there.
Starting point is 00:25:30 But, I actually know I got in at 12 because I get Disney plus for the Fred Man. That's what it is. What's your guys take on the fact that you had to stream until 4 p.m. You had to pay to stream. Listen, as Justin the millennial group, I'm a streamer anyway, so it didn't affect me.
Starting point is 00:25:53 I don't know. I'm just gonna say done by all of me. In years past, how much live coverage have we gotten? So PGA Championship, as of last year, it doesn't come on TNT until one or two o'clock Eastern, something like that. But there was online feature group streaming on PGA Championship.com for free. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:12 And that was pretty good. So I feel like, all right, so maybe there was a full produced telecast that was what was on ESPN plus. So it feels like they needed a very basic streaming thing. If people want to watch one feature group and watch that for free otherwise. That would be a good, a good bridge, I think. At the same time, what I would pay $5 per day
Starting point is 00:26:35 for what we got out of the SPM plus today. That was some of the best television coverage. Better than once they came on cable. Way better. I mean, there were a couple commercials mixed in there, but you get three screens going, you get both feature groups, and I think even if you use like an online platform or Apple TV, you can do the multicast where you could have multiple options. Scott Van Pell and David DeVol are fantastic combination.
Starting point is 00:26:58 It's the right amount of seriousness, the right amount of joking, and I mentioned this near the end of it. I know that I never saw Scott Bampel today. I don't know he's wearing was he on. I don't maybe I missed it if they did. But like as soon as CBS came on, it was Nancy and Baker Finch in the booth and doing their whole thing all over again. And it was for anyone that is confused by anything we say about coverage, seeing those two. If you watch both of those things today, I don't know how you can walk away, even remotely confused.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Agreed. Shout out to my god day, Fleming on ESPN too. Sean McDonald was great. Who was? Yeah, but yeah, you could tell us as soon as the CVS producers came in, it was a totally different show. It was the Jim Nance show instead of, you know, instead of, hey, we're covering a sporting event here.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Somebody sent, I meant to get a screenshot of this so we could lay in here on the live show, but they sent us like, I guess they with one of those T-Vo things that shows when the commercials are, and there was 14 commercial breaks within a two hour period, seven per hour for the first two hours that they were on. I mean, God, like it's, it's,
Starting point is 00:27:59 well, it's not only that, when they're on the air, they're not showing golf either. No, it's, like the first 12 minutes or 15 minutes they were on the air, it's five, golf either. No. Like the first 12 minutes or 15 minutes, they're on the air, it's five. It was like, it was nuts. Yeah. I feel like we've, we've short-changed some of the other guys at, at minus three, because I feel like that's, that's a very, very much in the mix here.
Starting point is 00:28:17 You got Finao, Kisner, Burger, Woodland, Noren, Tom Lewis, Hal Tongley. Oh my gosh. And Jay, I had to laugh. Hal Tongley, one of the emelmen said, he got a lot of great experience at the president's cup this cup. No, he didn't. No, he got benched because he didn't bring his caddy
Starting point is 00:28:36 when listen to the captains and only got the play of the one. Yeah. And then JT Poston, who, that's a guy. I don't think JT Poston's getting enough. No, you're the leader of the JT Post J.T. Poston, who, that's a guy. I don't think J.T. Poston's getting enough. No, you're the leader of the J.T. Poston. Correct. Yeah. He's doing good, you got, and then, yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:28:51 Shane Lowry, Brian, the fact that Brian Harmon can compete on this golf course is kind of wild. It's definitely favor bomber, but doesn't eliminate other styles. That's true, yeah. The page eliminated, but this, you know, I know Speedplaydwell last year at Beth Page, but he also put it as ass off and that was completely unsustainable.
Starting point is 00:29:09 You got read at minus two. Yes. Havland at minus two. Adam Scott, that's actually the guy that, a couple of people reached out yesterday and they're like, hey, like, who's your real pick to win? And I was like, if we're going outside to like the four or five or six favorites,
Starting point is 00:29:26 I think it's Adam Scott. Some people are here in the comments are screaming at us to talk about Justin Thomas. I don't have a whole lot to add. I don't even know what he's got. What did you shoot? He shot one over. He was, he lost over a shot and a half off the tee.
Starting point is 00:29:39 He did not look comfortable off the tee. He struck his irons pretty well, but didn't put great and ends up at plus one. It seems a couple of people are commenting too, just saying, why does he hit that three puts so often? Because it seems like he hits that more wayward than he does his driver. Just send the driver. Yeah. I don't I'm sure he understands strategy quite well. He's number one player in the world, but yeah, it's just another, you know, we talked about this with him on the pod, you know, last year
Starting point is 00:30:06 it was just like, hey, I know you've won a major, but like, what do you think of your major championship record? And he's like, oh, I hate it. I get it's, if you look at he's, he top 10. Two of us, Justin. He's two. He top 10s half the time or half as frequently as he does in PGA tour events. So I think if we're going to bang holes in anybody's major record, it's Bryson.
Starting point is 00:30:23 He's never finished in the top 10 at a fucking major before. That's the kind of has a stunk up until he's easy. I think I think more kawa is in line. He was pretty much field average putting today. Ball striking was great. Scottie. It'd be a great putting day for him though. That's true to Scottie was was almost three strokes gained putting.
Starting point is 00:30:45 So, and then Jason Cochrack won under. He's all in. A lot of people are saying Rainy looks tired, high, dead. I'm tired of course. I think you actually look better than normal, I would say. I love it. You always keep me up. We had to summon it tonight. I was like, Alex is like, where are you going?
Starting point is 00:31:02 I was like, we're doing a live show. She's like, oh man. We should have done it around four. Like after the morning wave would have been, it was, I thought that was, if golf television looked like it did this morning, I don't think we'd ever talk about how it's covered. I wouldn't even have to mention it,
Starting point is 00:31:17 wouldn't even think about it, would just be like watching MLB or NFL. Like it just, that's all it needs to be. And the fact that it can be done, and you know what, the fact that CBS still screwed it up despite not having the tour involved with this one, is even more dammit. Like that's often their excuse,
Starting point is 00:31:31 it's like the tour of this, the tour of that, that's even more. They had hard cameras out the ass. You see how many hard cameras were on 14 for that 4D, whatever that thing is, so. Your boy hair is English, minus one. It's a flash in it. It's absolutely flush in it right now.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Damon minus one, and Matayev Schwab. On my Ryder Cup squad. Sneak in some questions here as we get close to wrapping up on them. Hit me, hit me, hit me. We gotta talk wrong. We gotta talk wrong. We gotta talk wrong.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Ron was a disgrace today. Yep, he saved his life. He's a battle, but he never looked good. And the rip, we gotta talk about the rip. Oh yeah, we didn't talk much rip. Yeah, the rip just, I don't know, man. You need to share that you're pronounced me, you made it. I'm pretty close to declaring him dead.
Starting point is 00:32:10 He's dead to me, unless he steps up. Are you the second to hold the ball? Did Price and S for a second of opinion? He's the corner and I'm like, I'm like, the medically outside. Yeah, the family hired him privately. I'm a forensic specialist. I mean, it was just sad how predictable it was, though. He just plays himself, puts himself in a hole.
Starting point is 00:32:26 It'll make the comeback. He'll make a run and then we'll look back and say if he didn't start the way he did, then he would be right in the running. And it just seems like he struggles on, he struggles hitting wedges into firm greens. I feel like, and then I feel like he always hits his, his putts too hard.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Yeah. And then, him losing, hitting one almost in Lake Merced was jarring. He's supposed to be the best at this. And I'm not comfortable going to a fade right now, which is kind of bizarre. Yeah. And then I think Fleetwood bears, bears mentioning too. Fleetwood could have had a nice one today.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Yeah, he looked like aggressive. You know, he was pure today. But yeah, I got, I mean, there was a certain point there where guys were making pots from freaking everywhere. Yeah, little editing on that end. But there were like, there weren't that many guys that had a row that, you know. You wanna tell us about your favorite stat,
Starting point is 00:33:18 I just learned what your favorite stat was today. I never knew this. Total feet made of pots. That's my least favorite stat. I love it, I can't get enough of it. I think it's fun. What's a putts. That's my least favorite side. I love it. I can't get enough of it. I think it's fun. What's a good total?
Starting point is 00:33:28 I still don't know what a good total is. I think a good total is whatever you feel in your heart. It varies. We hit me with some questions. I need some questions. All right. Is there any doubt that for McRib back door top 10? No.
Starting point is 00:33:42 No doubt in my mind. Why was there no hype for the ESPN coverage? Is this out of left field? I'm not sure what that means. I think we had to pretty good. Yeah, maybe it's great. So maybe he's just asking like going into the tournament, you know, why didn't I know that ESPN was gonna be on ESPN?
Starting point is 00:33:58 So ESPN and CBS entered into like a joint deal. This is the first year of a new deal where they've said, like we are gonna show the coverage from start to finish and they were on the air at 7 a.m. is the first year of a new deal, where they've said, like, we are going to show the coverage from start to finish. And they were on the air at 7 a.m. before the first tea time. And I don't know if I assume they wrapped right around the time was like, they were on the, they didn't show every golf shot. You can't physically do that. But they were there from the beginning to end, which is the first for the PJJM.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Somebody tweeted this morning, they're like, why are they shooting a golf? And you're like, because they're not, because nobody's fucking teed off yet. Yes. They haven't showed anything yet. Max Homa, question mark. I was disappointed. I think we all want to bet it for Max today. We're not mad. We're just disappointed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:38 And I think Max will grow out tomorrow and handle his business and be an adult. Yeah, he's a pro. Matt Jackson golf, Brooks Brooks not in feature group. Honestly, that is absurd. He's won four majors since 2017. He's the two time defending champ, but he's not in a feature group. That was, that was a minute.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Justin wrote, the squeeze Justin rose into one of the feature groups, which he was the only, he always figured out, it's like rose and Ricky, man. They always figure out how to get those guys in. He was, he and Rory were the only non-Americans, non-US Americans. Of course. I assume that's why, but how the hell Brooks,
Starting point is 00:35:13 I mean, Brooks should have been in there over speed. I know he's going for the career grand slam, but come on, that was a miss. And just unnecessary motivation for Mr. Keppka. So, was Ronaldo out of line to attack Bryson's shaft manufacturer like that? Good question. Yeah, I mean, he wasn't respectful of the brand at all, but actually Bryson reversed it and used it to get a bunch of free pub for him. Yeah. Just make, can one of you make like the most minor humorous comment ever, and I'll do my full run all the impression.
Starting point is 00:35:45 I had a cheeseburger for him. He just overplays it so badly every single time. So how does that joke make you feel? It makes me feel, you know, it puts a lot of pressure on me. I don't like it, you know, it's bad for my brand. Paul Casey's double in 18 was everyone trying to get at home under par. His flop shot in 18 was sick.
Starting point is 00:36:10 He hit it over, he hit it double the distance he needed to. And then, oh, Barry Farts wants to know, actually know what Barry Farts, you were asking me on Twitter earlier, you know, he's gonna be watching it too. Very hate that. A lot of shout out consequences, Barry. A lot of shout outs for group host Salinas in here,
Starting point is 00:36:28 which I don't know if it's just free group host Salinas after your boy got arrested, but. Yeah, like we said, that was a pretty tenuous connection, I think. Christian, Ro, Mac, Brooks pushing the Bryson narrative too much. I think you can argue that. But maybe he's getting inside Brooks's head. He needs our career. Or inside Bryson's head to where,
Starting point is 00:36:47 you know, he's trying to basically get Bryson to vote attention to him. And Brooks is like, I'm just gonna talk about this in the interviews and then go off and do my own thing. I just don't think Brooks, or Bryson, his Brooks's main competition, you know. Like you said, he's never been running for a major. Brooks should start talking shit to cat.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Like that would be the alpha move, right? That would. I don't think he will do that, but that would be sweet. And I don't think Brooks likes Phil either. Like Brooks should just start picking on. I'm picking up a lot of vibes. The people don't like do vol talking on the air. It just doesn't seem like do vol is waiting on on Phil's five. I like do volume on the air with SVP.
Starting point is 00:37:25 I think they are a great match. Anything else before we wrap this? Shout out to the LPGA. Shout out to Wimans Golf. Yeah, great leaderboard. A great time. Kang, co, Kang, McDonald, Angel Yen, Maria Fosse's up there. Nelly Cord is up there.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Just hitters everywhere. Yeah, so if you're looking, if you don't have the streaming or if you're looking for something new, the US Women's AM is on Golf Channel Tomorrow from one to four, and then they follow that with the LPGA coverage from four to seven. So our friend Gabby Ruffles, advanced to the round of 32 today, the top seed,
Starting point is 00:38:04 it's supposed to be a complete menace as I look up her name real quick, Rachel Heck. So some big names left in the US women's am. I actually wanna see a little bit of that tomorrow. I'm saying point to you. It looks sweet. It looks sweet. Megaharg.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Shout out to the 15% of the people in our Instagram poll that for the Jack City Am that said that I would be Gabby in the Jack City Am, which I did happen to do. You didn't even vote for yourself. I did not Jack City Am, which I did happen to do. You didn't even vote for yourself. I did not, I did not think I was gonna be there. We did get a question, do we like Pultern now? I'd like a chance to explain my tweet.
Starting point is 00:38:32 You said something earlier, yeah. I, if you'll look closely, I don't think I've made fun of them in maybe a couple years. I just maybe got a little bored with it, but feel like, you know, as his play has declined over the years, and he's not as much of a pain on our side in the Ryder Cup, I kind of am enjoying his humor a little bit. I kind of feel like he's got a little more self deprecating.
Starting point is 00:38:50 He plays the game. He's getting, you know, I don't know. I don't cringe when I see him on the screen in this little PGA championship bit earlier today where he's like, you know, they're asking questions about how much the want to make a trophy weighs and he missed the questions very badly. And he's like, that's what you get. I haven't won a major and never lifted the Wanda maker. I just, I laughed, I thought that was really good.
Starting point is 00:39:10 He, uh, and he got in the Tours ass last weekend about the graphics packaged down in Memphis, not showing the career wins worldwide, just career PGA Tour win. Even though other people were messed up about that. Even though it's a co-sanctioned event. Exactly. So, uh, I wanna give a shout out to the corn fairy tour out at the Ford's.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Wink of foods Portland open presented by craft times. Your people. Great leader board, great course out of pumpkin ridge. I don't know. I just I love that event. It's so cool. Too much golf. It's too much golf.
Starting point is 00:39:41 It's a sweet thing. Yeah, we've got the English. We've got the English championship going on. You know, they're doing their thing over there. I didn't see much of it, but I'm the fact that they're out there doing it. I respect it. Exactly. Thanks, everyone, for tuning in, either on the podcast feed or on Periscope.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Thanks for all the comments. We will be back same time tomorrow evening and ready to watch some golf tomorrow. Cheers! Get a right club. Be the right club today. Yes! Yeah! That is better than most.
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