No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 341: PGA Championship Recap
Episode Date: August 10, 2020Collin Morikawa wins the 2020 PGA Championship in iconic fashion. We break down the win, the ridiculous shot into 16, a wild Sunday, Koepka, DJ, Finau, Bryson, Rory, Spieth, Wolff, and all of the othe...r key players from the week. We talk Harding Park, course setup, the usual segments, and of course some coverage takes (we make it wayyyy deep in the show before this hits). This may be our longest ep yet. A lot to talk about! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I'm going to be the right club today.
Yes! That is better than most.
I'm not in.
That is better than most.
Better than most!
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No-Lang Up Podcast. Sully here, T.C. is here.
Somewhere.
Hello.
DJ Pies back in town, he is here.
Greetings, hello.
And last but not least, we're just going to give him the floor.
Is time you can just glow, you can do whatever you like.
Mr. Big Randy.
Hello everybody, no gloating.
I, you know,
was a total home game for Colin all week.
I think that proved to be the difference.
And so I congratulate him on his first major championship.
You've been big on practically a home game this week.
Two big takeaways for me, home games and total feed
a plus made. Yeah. I didn takeaways from me, home games and total fee to putt.
Yeah.
I didn't know he was gonna celebrate that.
I thought he was gonna celebrate Fino not winning.
Oh, that's easy.
Fiat, no, what?
Predicting Conmore to win.
T.C., do you celebrate when the sun comes up every morning?
T.C. does actually.
He's full of life.
I attacked the day, Randy.
Randy, if you didn't listen to the preview pod
or anything like that, Randy's picked to win the tournament and it was, I believe the day, Randy. Randy, if you didn't listen to the preview pod or anything like that, Randy's picked to
win the tournament and it was, I believe the question was, if your life depended on you
had to pick one golfer to win this tournament, you said Colin Morakow.
If you're not going to gloat, I'm going to gloat for you.
No, I mean, T.C. is going to gloat enough for Scotty Schiffler and he didn't win, so go
ahead and pick this.
It was a triumphant performance.
I think, I mean, you guys just want to get into a larger,
more college discussion. I don't want to, you know, I got, you know, a squirrel finds
another every now and again. I was just going to say if Dustin Johnson's life depended on
it, he should have picked a college. Yeah, exactly. As everybody knows, Randy gave him just a few
more majors to live. And today he died a little bit more. He got back some very negative test results
today. The concerns were a little bit of a shaky putter,
which reared a tettic colonial,
but the performance at the memorial,
and today, he is just a proper-ask golf player.
I texted friend of the program, Max Homo, fellow Cal Bear,
and practically home game for him.
It was a home game for him as well.
And I asked him, I was like, hey, you know,
does Colin kind of have goady vibes?
Or is this just like a major hot streak?
He's like, dude, this has been going on for like six years.
I don't think this is a hot streak.
It's a hot streak, it's whatever, half a decade.
So I think just a fun major for golf and golf fans.
Like it's a great winner for the game, in my opinion.
He just before we get into a larger
more coward discussion on Saturday afternoon,
he was 400 par standing on 15 T.
He birdied 15, he birdied 16, he birdied 17.
Flip over today, birdies three, birdies four,
birdies 10, birdies 14, eagles 16 to get to 13 under par.
No bogies in his last 22 holes, 23 holes
to go from 400 to 1300.
129 on the weekend?
65, 64 on the weekend is gonna.
Gonna shoot you at the board, that's gonna help.
We laughed at TC's 1400 par winning and 1300 par one
and he almost made it on 18.
I didn't, I mean, granted I didn't think
they were gonna set it up as benign as they were today. Well, the wind just didn't really buck that much today. It wasn't, it wasn't especially
benign. There just wasn't that many options as far as where to put pins on those greens too.
Yeah, they put the pin in the same spot on number one. Basically, if you look at the,
it's like in a line there on the front right, all four days, which, which is fine.
That hole was fun to watch. But the shot on 16 for Morkawa, I think it's that,
for everyone, it's like, yeah, I don't really miss the fans,
I miss the fans on that one.
Who knows if we get that if there's fans there,
but we needed a big roar on that one,
because that was absolutely filthy.
Maybe it's just because Tron and I were watching it together.
We kind of hyped each other up, I think.
But I didn't notice it in there.
I was much more just locked into the moment,
all struck by the shot.
We were so confused that nobody else was hitting a fade
in there.
Everybody was trying to hit a draw over the trees
and it was terrible.
It was really bad.
And then right off the club face,
it was like, I said to DJ right beforehand,
I was like, dude, this is just like 14 at Mirfield.
And you're gonna hit that buttery cut,
it's gonna take a little bit off the driver,
sharing off he did.
Like it was, and I will say, Bryson shot.
Bryson shot was like seven or eight inches from being
so close in.
Excited to talk about the big golfer.
We are gonna talk plenty about him, but we're,
on the crowds, I thought Jason Dees
post-round comments were interesting.
He certainly made it sound like a huge factor
and said, he blamed the crowds for him now. Well, he said tournaments can essentially that the
crowds sometimes determine the outcome. And some golfers can't, can't handle it.
So I would love to like get inside his head and have him name names, but Paul, I mean,
Paul Casey said yesterday, I think, I have a better chance here at this tournament because
there's no fans. There's something to a major week hitting you from Monday on.
Like it is, there's people there on Monday.
Like you can be a, not to say that people don't know about Colin Moorcawa, but if you're
a Colin Moorcawa, you're going to practice for three days and there's going to be an
a PJ tour event and you're going to have a smattering of people watching you, but at a
major, you're going to have a lot.
And that kind of sets the tone for like, this is a bigger deal than anything else I've
kind of been through to this point.
Oh, he's played in one other major.
And then yeah, you go play four straight days with no crowds, no noise happening in other
parts of the golf course ball ball.
It definitely I, I, you, there's no way to measure it, but it has a factor.
I'm not saying he wouldn't have won if, if, if there was crowds, but there is definitely
a factor, especially in a major championship.
I think for a player like Sheffler, too, was a massive benefactor of that playing in the
last group with Dustin Johnson.
He just looked, maybe he would look super calm anyways if there were fans there, but he
looked really calm and really good up until kind of leaked oil, but I'm sure we'll get
to him eventually.
He leaked oil.
He leaked a little bit.
He just, you know, I don't know.
It was benign. You said it yourself. He leaked oil. He leaked a little bit. He's a little bit unboken. He just, you know, I don't know.
It was benign.
You said it himself.
He needed to, you need to make some birds come in.
He had a bad, he had a bad hop on the show.
We'll get to it.
We'll get to it.
You guys, I think it's time for you guys to apologize.
About what?
For what?
Conmore Cowell led the field in Stroke's game
putting this week in one of major championships.
As he always does, Salian.
As you've been saying, he's truly been one of the best putters his entire life.
He's not a top-class.
He's like, hey, hey, I'm glad that he got it figured out.
Like, he was, I'm looking at the stats.
Ray's progress, he fixed it, man.
It was great.
And I believe I was the one that said,
I'm not worried about it, it's gonna be fine.
You are totally right, and I was totally wrong.
I did not think he was gonna put that way today.
For that, I apologize.
Or this way.
I apologize for saying that last night.
I don't apologize for what we said back in the day
about the party because it was bad,
but he's turned it around.
I mean, he was like,
accept your apology.
Thank you.
For the season, not counting day, 164th.
It's not great.
It's not great.
All right, this is exceptionally streaky,
but also it's gotta be a confidence boost and all that.
I'm totally glad I was wrong.
Yeah.
That I thought there was gonna be scar tissue there.
I do think it helped that these are relatively flat greens.
And it's a home game.
Practically.
Practically home game.
Uh, where there's not a whole lot in these, in these puts as far as, you know, inside
of six feet.
Cause he had, like, he had a few of them today.
There was one or two of them where I thought the blade was opening up a little bit.
I think one of them was just a bad camera.
Bad camera, yeah.
But yeah, I'm 100% happy to be wrong.
I think people took my tweet the wrong way a few weeks ago
where I was like, yo, I'm not rooting against this guy.
No, no way.
I'm a huge fan.
I've been a fan since first time we saw him on Reno last year.
He's a stud, he's generational, it's just a matter of this bear's watching and he figured
it out.
And he did miss a two foot one inch putt at one point, which I was thinking about that
coming down the stretch.
Dude, if he loses by one or losing a playoff, that's going to be...
That's why I was so sick he made the put on 16.
That was, just kicked the fucking door down.
That was dead son.
That was awesome.
That was never gonna happen.
I wanna give shout out to Luke Kerdanine, wrote a story
about, about, about, about,
Morca was putting that.
I thought was super interesting because Morca
has been kinda coy according to Luke's story.
He's been kinda coy about like, I have a secret to where I've been turning my putting around,
but like I don't wanna phrase what the secret is.
So I'll try to explain it without giving the secret away.
And Luke wrote this kind of fun thing about like,
following him around at the travelers
and just watching him on the putting green
and trying to figure out what the secret was.
And he surmised that basically Collins putting
was just super robotic.
He was trying to be, which I think we had kind of said
a little bit after Colonial and he's just trying to stand over it,
trying to hit the perfect speed, trying to hit,
take the perfect stroke and just getting way too technical.
And his quotes in the story were much more like,
okay, look at every other sport,
when a pitcher throws a fastball,
the batter is reacting to it.
When in football, you're reacting to what's going on in the field.
I need to react a lot more on the putting green the way I do when I hit an iron shot.
I react to what the wind's doing.
I react to all these things.
And so Luke goes on and he's explaining all this and talking about watching him and how
when he lines up his ball, a lot of guys, you know, you can see all of us included probably
who use a line for the golf ball.
You can see like eyes, sorry, I know Randy Tron,
I guess, you guys don't do that,
but you hate the line.
You can see the eyes going back up.
We're reaction putters.
You know, you can see the eyes darting up and down as far as like,
look at the hole, look at the line, look at the hole,
look at the line and he's watching Con on the putting green,
keeping his eyes on the hole the entire time
and just like feeling with his hand,
where the line should be. Anyways, it was a cool story and I thought that was, that was the best part
I've, I've read about his putting so this is literally never happened until two nights
in a row. This has happened completely forgot to do the out of the top of the show. Oh,
sick. There you go. We've talked about a ton. You know what the help is for triple track.
No, it's not. It reminded me. The cowboy crombs off truvis.
It is the office of truvis.
Yeah, be an athlete out there, man.
You don't need the line.
I thought about the bullet in there.
It is like being an athlete.
That's what I love about the truvis is it made me start thinking about putting like an
athlete instead of trying to roll that line end over end.
The soccer ball pattern, it makes it look like, it kind of makes the ball look bigger,
which gives you a little more confidence.
And then it looks like you had a perfect putt every time.
It helps you really build your confidence.
You can, you also can, if you're like nipping wedges
around the greens, and TC, if you ever do do that,
you would see the spin on the ball around the greens.
Let's do it.
All the time, man.
Left TC is generation, I'll try.
I will say, like the reason I'll play the truvis
is because I love it chipping and pitching.
It's even if you don't want to play, it's great for practicing or just seeing the ball
track to the whole one putts, even while you're practicing.
People think it's easier to find in the grass and track through the air.
There's a lot of reasons why I like it.
It's available in red and white, yellow and black.
You can get on the Coway Chromesoft golf balls.
You can get on cowaygolf.com.
Slash Chromesoft, anything else for the truva.
So you guys would like to share.
I actually think it gives you a smaller target.
Like you can pick out one of the little, the pentagons or hexagons, something like that.
Hexagons.
You can pick out one of those in a very specific one and kind of aim small, miss small.
You don't have a weird thing that I like about it.
Has nothing to do with performance, but you can, when you're rolling up in the fairway, you know which ball is your little
off-master.
It makes a difference.
Struggling at all, you can start getting into, you know, getting in your swing a lot
faster.
So, playing the yellow one is the next level.
Exactly.
Or, you know, listen, that has a downside too, I guess, if you got out-driven.
Yeah, you're like, oh shit.
Kind of hard.
You'll never get, actually, that's in the copy.
You'll never get out-driven if you play one. Back to Mara Cala that's in the copy. You'll never get out. If you play one back to more cow.
Wrapping up the stats.
He was perfect six for six in scrambling today.
That'll work.
He hit 12 of 14 fairways.
That was first in the field was second and stroke
gain off the tee today.
I was good glad to see you like first.
I'm I have to check that one for you.
But I was glad to see someone that doesn't
absolutely just send it and end up winning this tournament.
Cause it for a little while there.
51st in driving distance this week.
Yeah, I mean, but you drive it that good, like that's straight and that consistently,
you can still, you can still gain a lot of short either though, right?
No, he's not, but he's not, I mean, I think I'm sure everybody was a little bit guilty
that's coming into the week was like, oh, you know, Bombers, man, Bombers,
Bryson, Brooks, JT, all the more cow's who got her up there too, but like more cow
when he, it just shows, you know, when he is firing everywhere, he's gonna, he's gonna be there too.
He's who I looked at.
It wasn't a ton of Bombers though.
It was.
Yeah.
It was Bombers Live in the after room.
For sure.
And that's when it was DJ, Bryson, and Champ tied for the lead.
It was one, two, and six in driving distance overall
for the week, which is a bad look for golf.
But yeah, to your point, when it's like a second shot golf course,
I'm going to be like, all right, more a cow a week.
It's a more a cow a week.
And this was like a first shot golf course in a lot of ways.
And so I just kind of didn't really think about it.
But we're not all big Randy, you know?
I don't know.
Sometimes you just gotta look at some other stats.
I think I mentioned him.
I was like, you know what?
I mentioned him on the ticket in Dallas.
I did a radio hit this week.
He was so cool.
That's so cool.
Completely shooting from the hip here,
but I gotta think the PGA would be the hardest major
for him to win. Why is that? I mean, I don't disagree, but I gotta think the PGA would be the hardest major for him to win.
Why is that?
I mean, I don't disagree,
but I don't, I can explain that.
I just like because of the prints,
like the premium that seems to be placed on
driving it really far in all of these PGA.
So I mean, look at a place like,
Beth Page, Belrieve I guess was a little bit, you know,
less so, but.
Belrieve wasn't long.
That's why Tiger was able to be in it
when he was spraying it everywhere off the tee
because he could get nine irons out of the rough
onto the green, where this was long though.
Right, I don't know, I agree.
It seems like the bombers are,
the thumb is put on the scale a little bit more
for the bombers at the PGA more than the other majors,
whereas Augusta, like, you don't have to bomb it.
It helps, of course, but being a really great iron player
is gonna be great at Augusta.
It's gonna be great at a place like Pinehurst or Chinacock
or whatever for the US Open.
It's gonna be great in windy conditions, you know,
with the UK bridge.
I was gonna say I hope it's super, super curious
and keen to watch him play over in Scotland and England.
Yeah, so I think that'll be a really interesting test
for his game and cool to watch him flight irons through the wind.
I thought you had a good take,
vis-a-vis spieth earlier.
Jordan, of course, has died,
but the good news, here's the good news, heart.
For there is good news.
Jordan has been resurrected in the Call and More Colwell.
Yeah, it could be a reincarnation situation.
Exactly.
A little class iron player.
Pudding, yeah, listen, maybe now he's a putting monster too.
A flare for the dramatic perhaps.
Exactly.
Just a very classy young American player.
Yeah.
I thought it was interesting.
He dumped his approach on number one today.
Yeah.
Into the bunker.
Kind of an inauspicious start.
Big par putty made.
And then, yeah.
Comes back up and I felt like it's like,
he got punched in the face right from the start,
got back up and said, all right, bitches, I'm here.
Yeah.
Yeah, TC, I think that was exactly right.
I mean, that was a 22 foot putty,
but it rolled in on number one.
Yeah, I mean, he dumped in the bunker from a hundred yards out, like middle of the fairway.
Yeah, that one, I mean, it was hard to keep up
with everything in the beginning.
And we have a, I mean, listen,
it was hard to keep up with everything in the end.
Oh, true.
A deep, deep leaderboard to go through.
Can we do, who do you wanna do next?
Who's next?
Do we wanna do a big picture, Mara Kawa?
Do we wanna get caught up and do like eight majors form?
Like we are, are one to do.
You wanna have the fun, that. Yeah, I would say so.
Is that the question?
How many majors is that?
You got to throw out and over under.
3.5.
I'm going way over.
I love it.
I love it.
God for so many.
So many majors.
He's got such a language swing though.
Like I don't see any.
Doesn't feel like a lot of injury.
It's kind of.
It's injury risk. Injury risk.
If the, you know, the putter or the.
Can you name the active golfers with four majors quickly?
How fast can you?
Brooks, Rory, Tiger, Tiger, Phil.
That's it.
Is that hit for real?
I mean, like Ernie, technically active golfer,
but weekend, week out PGA tour.
Speed?
That's three.
Three.
He only has one master's.
Come on.
He has 14 masters, but he only has three majors.
Those who know.
I can't be right.
Are you sure?
I can double check, but I'm actually not sure.
Man, I thought he had two.
That's wild.
He's still an active player.
No.
I'm going over three and a half. That's a number. He's 23. for not saying that he's still an active player.
No, I'm going over three and a half. That's the number.
He's 23 guys.
Sick. I love it. God.
Like insane iron player.
How many times have you went in college?
A lot, right?
Well, I always, I always, I always, I have always been the overguy.
Like I always have.
And now it's like math just says like you just probably shouldn't.
I'm normally the underguy. Yeah. If there's going to be someone that I'm like, now it's like math just says like you just probably shouldn't. I'm normally the under guy.
Yeah.
If there's gonna be someone that I'm like,
if it's wolf, I'm not going.
Yeah.
Like wolf one and a half, I would probably say under
more cow I'd be more inclined to say over
but I would still technically go under.
Like that's a lot of majors.
So nobody's gonna, nobody's gonna fact check us
in this so I'll say over.
Well, it's more fun to say over of course.
Who said this on the broadcast today?
I think it was Scott Bampelt said this,
that Azinger attribute is quote Azinger.
I don't think I've ever heard it before,
but like, rang in my earlobes and my brain.
Ask a hester grass, no one rides for free.
I'm from Paul Azinger.
I think it was, you know,
it's the rider cups in our heart,
it's in their blood, I'd never heard that.
Is it real hidden Jesse? All ball heart. It's in their blood. I'd never heard that. He's a real hidden Jesse.
All ball straight ball hitting Jesse.
It's a combo.
It was more cow's drive was straighter than chain,
train smoke.
That's what it was.
No, it was, that's a good one.
I like players want to be noticed,
but don't want to be watched or something like that.
It was like, you want to get noticed,
but that's a Brooks.
It's different. That's, that's who it was in context of. It was like, you want to get noticed. Shout out to Brooks, maybe we should talk about him.
That's who it was in context of.
It was like, you everybody wants to get noticed
until you're being watched.
And I was, through that lens watching
what happened with Brooks today
and what's happened in the last couple of majors.
I mean, obviously he's major records incredible,
but since the PGA last year,
he has been in the hunt several times
and not even really come that close.
We're close to you so. And Masters actually. He's been close, but today was not.
We were talking with a couple of friends this week about
Spieth and
I
thought it was KVV maybe was digging up a quote from that Rory had in one of the Irish newspapers or
something about how when Spieth like this is great, he's on a great run, but like, let's
just see what happens next year. When he's number one in the
world, and he's going to try to back all this up, it's a lot
harder, man. And we're going to see what happens. And yeah, I
don't know. I think that kind of speaks to maybe what you're
alluding to.
I think it's interesting now that he did all this that quickly
after. I mean, should the fact that he won in Columbus that quickly after. I mean, shit, the fact that he won
in Columbus that quickly after a colonial too. Like it speaks to his character. It speaks to
the way he operates. Yeah, he definitely seems like a compartmentalized dude.
Do we want to do Capca, DJ, Speed, Rory, who's who you ready to burn on?
T.C. Who you, who you, I can't move on because I need to know who was number one.
Bryson.
Oh, Bryson wants, okay.
Bryson was number one in Stokes game off the tee today.
Yeah, he was more.
I would number one in Stokes game approaching.
Number one is Stokes game approaching for all rounds was Jason Day.
For today, it was been on then Matt Wolf.
Russell Henley JT actually fiend Fina, fifth and Stroke's game
to pro-degree today.
Matt Wolf gained 14 shots to degree.
So if Wolf would have made some putts,
he would have, he would have won.
I was talking about a little set.
Oh, go ahead.
Matt Wolf, first major, Ricky.
That's unbelievable.
Scotty Schaffler, first major.
And for Wolf to finish the way he did it,
it was some serious cahones.
It was.
First major as a pro for Shepler.
Yeah, he's putting that up.
That's correct.
Yeah, yeah.
I would have just been shocked
that he never made like a, yeah, okay.
I mean, all right, let's just talk about Paul Casey
because we need to.
Yeah.
I mean, sure, yeah. That's the one guy coming down the stretch.
Just get a little spooky for a second.
Like, oh man, like if like there's so many,
there's so many different things that could happen.
Like, I'm good.
Yeah, that was the only thing that we're not rooting for.
I know, I just find to say it.
I feel bad that I don't feel like there's,
there's all that much to say, but he's a total
Rez Act. Really nice. Really nice round. Yeah, it played great. He just kept it. I don't know. He was very happy afterwards
Yeah, which kind of says a lot about him. I think a lot of you know the knock on him is that he doesn't win enough for how up
He's at the top you guys don't give him near as hard of a time as you feel now, but
He was just kind of like I played great golf, yeah, that's kind of the point.
Not for nothing.
I've been on this block too for a long time.
We're like, man, this guy never wins.
Ever.
This wild people should talk about this.
He never wins.
But to see what he's done with his career for the last three, four, five years for, I
mean, he was like nearly out of the game.
Yeah.
It's. He, you know, come on. Like he's one 14 times in Europe. He's one. Yeah, it's very, you know.
Come on, like he's 114 times in Europe,
he's one, no, no, just three times on the PGA tour.
No, but he was like, he was in a dark place.
No, I'm not saying that to you.
I'm saying it as like a finaught comparison.
Tony's never won that much anywhere.
Like, all right, let's just talk to him.
Not even big break, yeah.
Not even, in fact, he's still looking for his big brother.
You want a new feed now next?
Let's do a feed now.
Let's get this one out of the way.
You guys sweating a little bit more than you saw.
Let me take the high road here.
First of all, which is always,
you can tell someone's taking the high road
when they point out that they're doing it.
Today was the first time I was talking to my associate,
TC about this.
This is the first, maybe not the first time, but one of a small handful of times where
I'm like, man, you know what, he played good enough to win today and he got beat.
He did a lot of great stuff.
He hit a lot of really good shots.
He was a little, as Randy will point out, a little wobbly, 15, 16, 17.
He almost broke the flag stick in half.
That ball was in.
16 was bad.
He had the birdie 16.
Yeah. Hit ball was in. 16 was bad. He had the birdie 16. Yeah.
Hit a poor shot.
But leading up to that, he looked the best of anybody on the golf course.
And I was very nervous that he was going to win.
But as Randy pointed out, I went to Randy for some counsel.
To Randy, fuck man.
We're kind of up against it here, pal.
What do you think?
And he said, no, just trust the court.
Trust the Puerto Rico curse.
It's going to, it's going to deliver. Just don't worry. Have faith. And he said, no, just trust the curse. Trust the Puerto Rico curse. It's gonna deliver.
Just don't worry, have faith.
And sure enough, here we are.
But I will say that's not the fina
that we've typically seen on Sundays.
This was a big step forward for him, I thought.
See, of all days today, I wasn't expecting it to be this.
Really?
No, I mean, there's too many guys up there.
That looks so, he looks so good.
He did, but the math was not where,
if the math's gonna fall his way,
and today was not that day,
like it was never his to lose,
and it's gonna have to really be his to lose
for him to win one of these things,
because we've seen how many times he can be close
and not get it done.
It's gotta be like four shots.
When he birdied 14, I was like,
ah, god, this is the one the putts are going in today.
He made the putt on 13 right before that,
and then 13 is like, oh, shit.
This is happening.
I didn't think he was gonna beat Bryson though.
And that was a bit of a saving grace.
Like I think if Ed Tony had been paired with somebody else,
like I don't know.
I just, Bryson was always gonna alpha, he's the big boy.
He's the big boy golfer.
Can we do the big boy golfer now?
Hell yeah.
You know what?
I don't even know where to start.
I've been talking a lot.
Somebody else started.
Monkey off his back.
I think this is an important first step for him.
A minor monkey off his back.
He has now had a very good performance in a major.
I think we can bury that.
He had a Mackenzie Hughes.
A Mackenzie Hughes the weekend.
66, 66, didn't win.
That's Mackenzie Hughes. Book it. Cash your ticket. That's McKenzie Hughes.
Book it.
Cash your ticket.
Right, McKenzie Hughes.
What'd you see from the big boy?
I mean, he had a great putting day on Saturday.
That got him in the, kept him in the tournament basically
because he really struggled approaching the green on Saturday.
And then he couldn't really get him to,
he had six birdies today on Sunday.
On the first
hole, it was from four feet, 10 inches. On the second hole, it was from three feet, three
inches. On four, he two-putted birdie. On seven, he made a 15-foot, three-inch putt. I
believe that was as long as putt made of the day. 14-foot-footed. He birdie-feet-a-putts
for the day. Not very many. six feet, three inches on 14,
and then birdied 16, which was a two putt,
he made a one foot birdie.
So of his six birdies, only one was outside 10 feet.
He only made 54 feet of putt.
54 feet, yeah.
He was rolling, he was like a freight train rolling downhill
those first six or seven holes.
It fell a lot like JT's around yesterday,
where, because he muffed the trip on eight,
that was a momentum killer.
That was tough.
It was a tough lie dead downwind,
and it looked like he was saying,
like, all right, I'm gonna risk this going in the rough.
I'm gonna risk trying to lay in this a foot on
and try to get it up and down.
And he got the next one up and down,
which was fine, it was a hard up and down.
The Bogey on nine really hurt.
That was, that was an inexcusable.
He eats a sneaky asshole. It is. He Bogey nine nine really hurt. That was, that was an inexcusable. He's a sneaky asshole.
It is. He bogeyed nine the last three days,
which it was just, that's a killer.
Because, and then the God on 10, 10,
yeah. 10 having eight iron in,
and blowing it over the green,
despite Fowl dough not understanding
that he can hit an eight iron 200 yards.
That was the one that DJ got undone on 10 too.
Right.
He had seven or eight iron in there and pulled it left.
Shout out to Mark and woman, by the way.
I thought he was actually, I thought he was good today.
It helps when you're calling things on tape delay,
but yes, sure.
Yeah.
He was good.
Yeah, about Nick, I think, he's got eight iron.
I think it's too much.
No way.
There's a too much in sure enough.
It can read out.
Let's literally, because it's on delay.
Just for the record.
But we'll get to hands today.
Okay.
I was in press in that, I thought Bryson today battled
and it didn't seem like it was his A game by any means.
And Tia will be able to compete
and hang a score on a Sunday and a major and be in it.
You know, I think it's part of the process.
That's where I was gonna go initially,
is to all the haters and losers
of which there are
many who were saying like, all Bryson, he just hasn't, you know, wake me up when he does something.
He hasn't showed us anything yet. Six straight top 10s, whatever. Dude, it's very real. He did not
have his best stuff this weekend. He was right there until what the 17th hole. And people said this
formula wasn't going to work in a major, which is just wrong. Cause like to anyone out there that,
like did that feel like it?
Did that feel like the best he could do?
Did that absolutely not.
Not even close.
It felt like a high floor.
It felt like a high floor.
So, and is that gonna work in Augusta?
I would say so.
Granite was a very good set up for him as well, I would say.
Yes, extremely.
But that helped.
But yeah, I mean, I don't know,
I thought he executed. It's just, I just, I wanna focus. Yes, extremely. But that helped, but yeah, I mean, I don't know, I thought he executed.
It's just, I want to focus on what he's trying to do
for the game through his passion, for the sport.
For the sport.
Yeah, you got Fred Ridley's daughter talking shit
about him on Twitter, right, too.
Which is sweet.
What was that?
I missed it.
Just anybody up a priceson from Sydney Ridley.
Listen, she's allowed to have her opinion.
I love it.
Does she want to be on the trap draw?
The ship more takes.
I'll say we're Bryson lost it this week.
Why would anyone be at Twitter?
Partially lag-pludding, but chipping was,
his chipping does not look.
When he misses a green, I'm not like this,
he should get up and down.
Take, I've realizing from this week,
is the answer to challenging guys out of bunkers,
having way less sand.
Oh, I loved it.
It was awesome.
That was different, huh?
That was different.
When guys were blading it over the green on nine,
on Friday and Saturday,
that was, like, it's an entertainment product.
Entertain us.
Dustin playing away for was that 15 or 14,
where he had to play way away from the whole,
even though everybody keeps talking about
flat the greens are and all that.
It's, yeah, you can't throw it high and spin it.
Which I didn't hear anyone making like
equipment adjustments going this week, going into it.
Like, I don't know enough about equipment
to do take bounce away when it's that firm, I think.
You want more of a reading in it?
It's the true who can say that.
It's the true.
It's the franny's looking around for a,
we have a fitting specialist here.
They test you on that in certified master fitter school.
Guys, that's behind the paywall.
No balls plugged either, you know,
there's an upside there.
Scotty was all happy about that.
Yeah, it's the ball really high.
We want to talk about the golf course.
We're late getting to, we can in a second.
We're late getting to this
because we missed the first ad as well.
But see, I feel like, you know,
you can understand what Lance Barrows
going through.
Oh my god.
The shit stacks up, man.
And then now you gotta do another ad.
And now we're behind it.
And we got the arcana thing.
Yeah, exactly.
And everybody's like, oh, Randy's got takes about the course.
And now we can't even hear him because we're in commercial.
And then we gotta do the CFO interview with Randy.
Exactly.
Well, why don't you guys go leave the room,
keep talking about the golf,
and we'll miss the whole thing while I do the ad
and come back, and then I'll try to recap it for you
if you want.
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That's impressive.
Really?
Legally, according to the...
Oh, yeah, I cleaned out the garage.
Yeah, he's 14 and a half strain cleaning the garage.
It was hot.
That is a huge number.
That's massive, yeah.
Well, when I was with that, you know,
Freddie and I took a bike ride and...
Oh, okay.
None of the boys really, the recovery score is not good.
And anybody get into the beers last night, possibly?
Is that it?
Yeah, that was cool. We had a good lot of show. We may have been... Yeah, I've had shitty recovery scores all week, man. It's really the recovery score is not good. Anybody get into the beers last night possibly? Is that what it's going on?
We had a good lot of show.
We may have been.
Yeah, I've had shitty recovery scores all week, man.
But you're doing it for the people.
Yeah.
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It's for the entertainment of the people.
I'm really going into our trip next week.
It's gonna be, we could have some one percenters next week.
Yeah, we're gonna be playing catch up.
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Now let's talk about the golf course.
Well, we were away, Randy, had a great take
about the golf course.
Did you guys like that?
We'll never capture it again.
It was really small.
It was taking up like a fifth of the microphones
that you probably couldn't hear very well.
Rainy, we haven't heard much from you.
What do you think of the golf course?
I thought it was a lovely test of golf.
I thought it was a little, scores were a little low out there
today for my liking, but I thought it presented a fair test.
I thought it showed pretty well on TV.
I thought the weather was good.
Yeah, as a viewer, I was quite happy with it.
TC.
I think it's a good venue to watch golf.
Like I like San Francisco, it's scenic,
the trees are cool shit. Could there be some
more variety in the greens? Yeah, absolutely. Could, you know, are there some of the bunkers
on the wrong side of the fairway? Yeah, absolutely. But I think it truly brings out the competition
between the players and not against the golf course, per se.
It's a great stage. Exactly. Yeah.
That's a really good way to put it.
I think we've been talking about it all week,
and I think that there is definitely a case to be made for,
hey, when you have a really bunched up leaderboard,
nobody's able to separate.
You don't really get a good sense of who's truly
head and shoulders above the rest this week.
And that's very important,
and I think we have good majors for that,
and I think the US Open does a great job of doing that.
I think there's also, you kind of have to put these things in buckets and decide how much,
what percent you want to, you want to really lean on, which bucket you want to lean on,
and the competition aspect of it is one bucket.
How do we really identify who the best player is?
The golf course has a ton to do with that.
There's another bucket that's like, hey, this is a really cool major venue
that three generations of people from San Francisco
have played with their dads and grandpa's
and it's open to the public and everybody can watch it
and everybody can say, oh, I know the eighth hole
and I've been over it, oh, he's not gonna get up and down
from there, I've been in that spot before
and like, that's really, really cool.
And to your point, Tron, the city of San Francisco
and having a place in the middle of the city
and just looking different is really cool
and having a competitive shootout is really cool.
And so I think you kind of pull all these levers
and decide which one makes for a great venue.
And for me, this week, those last three
really made up for the fact that it's maybe not the most interesting competitive venue,
if that makes sense.
I thought it was awesome.
I loved watching it.
What I liked especially was there was never a moment,
anything ever felt safe for any player.
You couldn't just hit the same shot on repeat.
If you had the cut going this week,
you couldn't hit every fairway of the cut.
You had to draw it off some tees.
You had to cut it off some tees. The trees really dictated
a lot of shot shape. They're far enough back from the fairway that it's not, you know, inhibiting
a bunch of shots. You're not behind, it's not your pulse effect. It's tree line, but it's not,
you know, hanging over the fairways. I really like 15, like 15's a great example. 15's a really
good one. You got to hit a draw or you have to lay it back
and you're contending with that bunker.
Like the back nine is interesting how it's start.
Like 10, you can hit a draw if you want,
but it's probably leaking into the left, like the left rough.
12, you are hitting a draw.
If you want to succeed here, like watching Burger
try to fade it, but there didn't work.
13, you are hitting a fade here.
Like it is backed back holes
where you're hitting a different shot shape.
And then yeah, you get to fit,
like 14 was kind of, you could do either one with it,
but 15, it was, if you're hitting a draw,
it might run through on the left,
or you might have to take less club
if you're, you know,
one, if you want to take it straight in line
with that bunker.
And it was that on repeat 16.
You better hit a fade into that green
if you want to get anywhere close to it.
And 18's probably hitting a draw.
Like there's that balance was really interesting.
It helps to just see a ton of golf. I mean, we'll get to cover seven a second, but watching
a course over the course of a week, and you can learn, like, oh, that's not the line.
That's not the line. That's what makes golf really entertaining to watch on TV.
I think the back nine is definitely a lot better than the front nine.
Yeah, more fun to watch. Yeah, just more interesting. And I think they tried, they tried with seven
to kind of mix it up with seven.
But also I think it's worth pointing out to,
like it was really flat light out there the last two days.
Yeah.
It was foggy and gray and,
and which I think is kind of cool.
It's cool, but it doesn't, it really doesn't pop on TV.
Yeah, it's a place I know this is a very easy thing to say.
And not people are doing a very easy thing to say,
and not people are doing a lot of traveling right now,
but it's an awesome place to go see in person.
I feel like it really comes to life
when you are able to walk around,
because there was a lot of,
I would say justified complaints of
every hole kind of looks the same and blah, blah, blah,
and I get that from people watching on TV,
but I do think there's more to it when you're there,
and when you can see the different holes
or play the golf course, which is cool that everybody can do that.
So I still maintain that long and thick rough is mostly uninteresting.
Now with the wind kind of dying down a little bit today, I thought it made it more interesting,
but when it gets a balance between it not being that long and tight and it is okay.
I mean, that 15th hole is what I kind of defer to,
is like I enjoy watching all playing styles
on a hole like that.
But when the winds up and like someone that doesn't hit it
very far is struggling with like 480 par 4s,
maybe I watched too much speed this week,
that's, that to me is where it just kind of gets out of hand.
But you know, it kind of becoming more benign,
I thought was more entertaining actually for once.
It seemed like they wanted to do certain stuff with the, you know, shaving down certain
areas and stuff, but they didn't get all the way there.
I like the short grass between the bunker and the green though, on almost every hole.
That was huge.
Yeah, but but in some of those spots where like they kind of shaved it back behind a green,
but you know, just collection areas.
Yeah, right into.
Yeah, rough.
And it's like, all right, like, you know, just collection areas. Right. Yeah. Rough.
And it's like, all right, like, you know, just keep that rough a little bit closer to the
green, like, or go, go all the way and do it, you know, quite like graduate it more.
Yes.
I did, that's a good, a good point.
I think if the wind would have gotten up more, it would, it would, it was kind of perfect
weather for the setup that they had.
If the wind would have gotten up more, it would have been a little, a little more disinteresting.
But I, I did think it, the rough was a cool mix where it was like, if you had 195 in, you might
have a lie where you can punch run one up there to the front, you might have to hack it
out, you might be able to fly it there.
It was cool to see that.
That mix and it was cool to see like the advantage Bryson had a lot of the time where he could
just muscle through a lot of that stuff.
My point on that is that on repeat, when it's tough, that watching guys hit shots out of the time where he could just muscle through a lot of that stuff. So my point on that is that on repeat,
when it's tough, that watching guys hit shots
out of the rough is not fun.
I mean, if the wind was up,
Warren guys were missing more fairways,
it would have been miserable.
But like today, it was like guys were hitting a lot of fairways.
I thought, yeah, like when you missed it,
it punished you.
Saturday, it could have been like,
I was convinced we were on the verge
of those greens getting firm as fuck.
Yeah, they were looking.
And then the fog and clouds rolled in and it just kind of...
It's kind of be hardy control-lost.
Oh, for sure.
But, you know, like...
We're talking microclimate here, TC.
The pins were great.
I thought, I think they put the pins in interesting spots.
They, you know, it changed the line, they straddle,
like the line of play on the drivable fours kind of changed and varied on day by day basis.
And...
The pin on 16 was awesome. That basis. And it was 16 was awesome.
That was cool.
Yes, 16 was great.
Seven was great.
Seven was cool too, yeah, exactly.
The guys were really confused as to why nobody was, you know, some of the longer haters weren't
sending it.
It was like, well, you can't get to that pin if you are anywhere out of position around
that green.
There's a reason why everyone's, most of the field is laying back.
So that stuff, I I think was highlighted well
on a certain channel, but maybe not as well
on some other ones.
I mean, like crazy.
Yeah, I know you guys haven't hear that, but.
It's, I was a little bit,
I don't say I was bummed that we didn't get a playoff
because Colin obviously deserved to win,
but a playoff of 16, 17, 18 would have been really cool.
Those are three really good holes for an aggregate playoff.
Not the fact that they were going to play, play everybody in the city.
I think so.
I'm unbelievable.
That would be a while.
I had a good tweet ready for that too.
It was like that big bird thing when it's like, we ride it, Don bitches.
We ride it, dusk bitches.
It's one big group.
Justin Ray had a good one too.
It's gonna be pretty tough to social distance
to your group of seven people.
All right, can we keep going on the leaderboard?
Sure.
Have we done enough DJing?
Have we, I don't think we've done anything.
Okay.
He's not getting to skate.
Yeah, just another really underwhelming,
you know, double arm.
Doctor, what's the prognosis?
Just shoot a straight.
I looked like he was sleepwalking.
That was my take earlier, he might be undead,
like unable to die.
Like a white walker?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Cool.
Like he's just a shell of his former self.
Well, Dottie was all shook today
because he was taking, he was very cerebral on the greens.
He was stalking everything from a bunch of different angles.
And Bradley was shocked.
It just, yeah, I don't know.
Like, final group, people making a lot of birdies around ya.
I wasn't impressed.
Yeah, it's tough.
Like, I mean, he shot 68 in the final group of a major.
But again, but it wasn't. Two of, final group of a major. But again.
But it wasn't two of them when it didn't matter.
Right.
Whoa, that's some thunderbolts going on outside.
That's, you know what, that was the U-Rand.
You're getting smited right now.
He's got all the run-er-ups of majors,
and I don't think anyone were that impressive.
What about Saber's Bay?
That was sick.
Wistling straight, I guess that wasn't
technically a runner-up. But the golf course was was sick. Wistling straight, I guess that wasn't technically a runner up.
But the golf course was 10 years since Wistling straight.
This was the least impressive runner up in major he's had.
Is that fair?
That's fair.
Yeah.
PGD fair.
PGD fair.
A run at Beth Page.
To be fair, we kind of missed him the first three day.
Like they didn't really present him as one of the guys
playing the best golf, too.
Yeah, it's, 65 on Saturday.
Yeah, we kind of missed some of that.
The golf course average today was 69.2,
which was easily the lowest of any of the four days.
So, I mean, you tell me what is like,
one of the most talented guys in the game,
I don't know.
I'm curious to hear which like,
I just want to see that.
Doesn't matter, does matter, is this like'm curious to hear which like, I just want to see Mattur,
that was a matter.
Is this like a feather in his cat?
Like, help me understand.
21 wins, whatever it is.
And one major, I said this,
he had the lead,
he had all the holes in front of him.
He's playing the par five, 10th hole with the lead.
Maybe it's time for me when he turned it.
I said it was like, he, it is time.
You have been in and enough of these
that have slipped away from you and you are this talented.
A phenol is a totally different scenario here.
If like, yeah, you haven't proven that you win a bunch
and you can't win a major.
This was like, dude, you have won a ton.
How do you only have one of these?
And it's not like you haven't had the chances
in these things.
Yeah.
It was disappointing.
Yeah, it's weird watching him.
It's like he, he feels like he just gets stuck in neutral.
No, this is very obvious, but he just feels like he gets stuck in neutral until he doesn't,
you know?
And he just kind of jars into gear occasionally in these things and he just blows everybody
away.
And I don't know what the difference is.
I don't know how you, it's so wildly unfair to say, like, do that more or do, you know,
I remember him at the ral a couple times
where it's just, it slips into gear and it's like,
oh my God, like nobody could ever
gonna beat him for the rest of humanity.
And I don't know how you attain that.
I don't know how that happens,
but I wish it happened more, I guess.
He made the mega three on 16.
People forget.
We missed his T-shot, which apparently went way long.
I don't know how that was a free, and then shipped in from you know 50 yards.
I felt like I felt like the whole front nine.
I think it was Dottie who said you know it just seems like he's he's like lurking like ready to
pounce like a I think she said like a big jungle cat or something.
I don't know.
But it did kind of feel like that way on the front nine,
where it's like, okay, he's just making a lot of comfy
parts, like he's got a part five on 10,
and at some point he's gonna drop the hammer.
Yeah, and then that second shot,
and when he made part on 10,
it's like, no, you know what, he's just like not playing.
He's just not playing.
He's got a lot of them big ribbing him in that way,
where it's just, oh, maybe it's just because we watch these guys a lot closer
and you pay attention to a lot more of their shots and stuff,
but Rory does that too.
It's like, all right.
Anytime, man, come on.
Anytime, we're ready, we're ready to go.
This might be it.
No, they're two straight bogies.
Okay, okay, now three straight birdies.
This might be it.
Now, bad bogies.
Like, they don't answer the bell,
and then they insert themselves in weird times.
Yeah.
And maybe that's just good by the way.
He didn't answer the bell.
Maybe that's just golf.
I mean, maybe it's just hard to switch.
And honestly, but,
maybe Mark Howe did it today, man.
And this is my bias.
Like, I'd rather him shoot 74 today
cause he's firing at every flag
and like, he's long in the rough and making
boat. Like I'd rather almost see him die by being over aggressive than hit the center
of the green and made like 16 parts or whatever he made. It just I don't know at some time
man like I don't think go for it. I don't think people really understand like how boring
his game can be though. As far as like the way he plays golf in the way,
like he plays really steady golf a lot of the time.
Well, that's what we were kind of talking about that
with Fina where it's like, man,
if he was playing, if this was Shinnecock and a US Open,
like Fina wins today, but like he's just not,
he's not doing, it's not,
you gotta make a few more birdies and he's just not, he's not doing quite, it's not. It's, you gotta make a few more birdies
and he's just not quite able to do it.
And that's what DJ had a lot of similar stuff
in his game, I feel like where it's like,
man, that's a super sensible shot to 30 feet.
That's a super sensible shot to 25 feet.
And of course, that's what you gotta do in majors.
I get it, but yeah, eventually it's gotta,
I don't know, there's just a gear missing or something.
Can we talk day?
Randy, your other pick.
He, yeah.
He's really good when he's healthy.
I don't know, that's been my takeaway
these last few weeks is.
I was super impressed.
Yeah, he's quite good.
Not really my cup of tea for some stupid reasons,
but I think it's more fun when he's playing well.
Until the interview at the end, I didn it's more fun when he's playing well.
Until the, until his interview at the end,
I didn't hear him complain about one thing all week.
He didn't see me.
He didn't do any, like, you know, that's something.
It's cold, it's cold and damp there.
It's gonna say that's the upside of the century, I feel like.
No, no issues in the cold damp weather.
Well, issues might.
They had that weird camera and his family's living room.
Yeah, which, you know, don't be thirsty.
And then, and then bitch, when people take pictures of you
at Disney World.
That's such a deep cut.
Also gotta say, that's a very different situation.
I think that's a good take.
I like that one.
Well, yeah, those shots were so out
of nowhere. The first one I was like, wait, did I? I thought I was dreaming. I totally missed
this. I texted you guys like Paul Casey's? Yeah. I don't know. I think it was just a bunch
of white people in the living room on a couch. And it was very, it was like a split second.
Split second. And nobody ever said that said. I texted our group stand.
I'm like, guys, what was that living room shot?
Yeah, I kind of zone out because Scotty had just done something
and then I was kind of recovering myself
and then I saw that and I was like,
oh, I must say so.
Imagine that.
I'd been a glitch in the matrix.
Big week money wise for Scotty, $404,000.
Solid, are you gonna apologize for Scotty, Shephler.
I will not.
Scotty was, Scotty was rock solid.
It was.
It was really, really good golf for four days.
He had a couple greasy wedges down the stretch.
It's such a god, it's such a good way to describe it.
You know, the bogey on 13, he had a great shot of rough on 13 in there and then, you know,
Baldur didn't check for him on the chip but
I was a problem spot that same exact thing happened to Paul Casey really yeah he was he was
fighting till the end great shot on 16 almost made the put on 18 yeah yeah I think you know he was
he was rock solid he should have he should have probably like the the wedge into 15 you know that
needs to be closer if you're if you're trying to win a major, but one bogey in
the final round of a major, a major playing with DJ.
Yeah.
Come on.
That's 68.
Yeah.
That's, I would have taken the over.
That was impressive.
The CBS still hasn't realized that his, oh, he slipped against.
He has, like, that's what he does.
I, that's one thing I won't get on them for because I still every single shot.
I'm like, that, okay, that one was a slip.
He did not mean to slide that far.
That's a while. He's so good at playing golf. He's definitely a golf hitter.
Well, 24 years old, was he the Cornferrey player of the year? Last year, am I making that up?
He was TC's Cornferrey player of the year. TC's at least. He's a former US junior
amcham. The decorated amateur, like, what's his, for the group, like, this doesn't
feel like a one-off maybe? Or what's the, like, what's his deal? Yeah, it's, I mean,
gosh, like, you know, we haven't gotten our FedEx cup updates all week, so I'll give
one. He was 28th in the FedEx cup coming into this event. This, this moved him up to 23rd.
I feel like you said that 30 times this week, and I still would, that's really, really
good. Like, who's his comp his comp like do we have a comp?
I guess that's what I'm fishing for him. I don't know give me a second that. Yeah, yeah, he I can confirm he was the quenferry player the year
There you go
And you know what he had he's had some trouble like he's been in the hunt a lot this year
He struggled on Saturdays
So to see what he did, she had 65 yesterday
and then followed it up with the 68 today.
Lost strokes with the putter today.
That was kind of the difference,
but you know, I mean, he hit 70% of his fairways today.
72% of his greens just lost about almost a stroke
on the greens.
He's a big guy, sorry.
I was just saying, not even playing style wise or body type wise, but like success wise,
burger.
That's interesting.
Kind of an unconventional move.
Yeah.
Late, burger in its stone is 20s.
Yeah, yeah.
One three times, played a president's cup team.
Like, I think that's a good comfort, Shephler.
There's like so many guys.
Like, is the Hudson Swoffer, Harris English?
He doesn't flush it as much as Harris English.
He just flushed it.
There's top 20 next week.
Yeah, exactly.
God, that's the best big go.
I don't know.
Scottie strikes me as somebody who's like,
it's, we're gonna look back.
This is my gut feeling and I have really nothing to base
this on, but he strikes me as a type of guy
that we're gonna look back and he's gonna have
a couple wins and it's like, oh yeah, like it's really hard to win on the PGA tour.
It's like burgers probably a good comp. Every time he wins, it's like, oh yeah.
Yeah, he's good too.
It's not a world beater.
I also look at Scottie and I'm like, God, like that guy is not gonna stay healthy.
He just seems like slipping.
He's gonna be nicked up. I know he's had shoulder issues lately, I think.
And his back is giving him problems in the path
Could you could you shed any light on why he looks old? That's a great question
Yeah, he looks like he's about the 36 year old
God I bet he was I bet he was a problem in junior high sports
T-Sports yeah probably a pitcher and like clean up hitter. Yeah, just a power four. Yeah, every rebound.
Yeah, exactly.
You like the, it's got the chest here.
And how much was the box amount?
It looks like kind of a, if burger and rye and palm
were had a kid.
You know, take that.
That's a great, you know, honestly,
I think should have won this tournament.
Cameron champ.
Yeah.
For how he was hitting it as of Saturday afternoon, I, I, I don't want to say I've never seen
someone in control of the golf ball that well, that would be hyperbole, but I can't,
I've never seen him have that kind of control getting it some pins with irons.
I mean, we know how far he hits it, but getting back left pins on 12 on Saturday with these draw eight irons or whatever that was was.
Those draw mid irons were filthy.
Really good.
It was like, whoa, if he's got that dial,
then there is an issue here.
And he did not have it really today.
Shot 70 today, he doubled nine, bogey 12 and bogey 15.
He finished type for 10th, eight under.
His drive on 13 was dirty that little low cut.
He strikes wings like a car analogy, like a Lamborghini.
Like when it's hard when it works, it's like premium.
But the wedges, it's tough to get through the skulls.
Man, that shit's always breaking down.
The other thing, practically a home game for him, by the way.
In him and more, Kyle were playing together.
Can you imagine on me home game vibes from that group?
Imagine if people would have been watching them.
Oh my God.
Guys, big news.
Sky Shaps were, loves to play pickup basketball.
There you go.
I bet he does.
But yeah, Cam Champ led the field and driving distance
with third and structuring off the tee.
Pretty solid overall week.
He's not someone that was on the tip of anyone's
tongue for a major championship. No, that's what I was going to say is I feel like people
kind of shit on him for the, you know, the bombing gouge. Whoa. We don't have to continue
to that red. People have kind of shit on him. It's true bombing. Exactly. People shit on
him for that and kind of bombing gouging and he's not, you know, a proper
player and that kind of stuff.
But and granted this was a bombing gougier type of major.
But yeah, good, good on him for showing up at a, you know, a big ass tournament.
That was the best game gets better.
Yeah.
It's gonna be scary for Red.
Who, Matt Wolfe, I feel like we can lead into Matt Wolfe here.
Well, before that, I would say,
I wouldn't classify him as bomb and gouge
because I feel like you can't leave that much in the tank
and be like a bomb and gouge.
He's not really doing, he doesn't do the gouge.
He's not, he's not Lonto.
Yeah, sure, we'll go with that.
He does it.
Lonto's like the ultra bomb and gouge.
Oh, you're trying to base this off like one half
of a round of golf.
It's the front of a and one shot he hit
at the tournament that he won.
But it's what's tried to actually see out of the area
but we were talking about that text.
There's a corn fairy guy too
that's like your poster child for a bombing gal.
Ryan Breb.
Oh, Brown.
Oh, where is he?
He plays the game the total wrong way.
I love to get to see going on that. He plays the game the total wrong way.
I love the good TZ going on that.
Because the fact that champ hits it so low, one,
and seems to be like dial, again,
I think he's got way more in the tank distance wise
than he doesn't.
I saw him hit one ball really high this week, the whole week.
And if he, yeah, he doesn't try to bully golf.
I feel like he's trying his best to play proper golf.
Yeah.
Like he's not just like getting it down there and finding it.
Lonto, driving accuracy percentage, 57%.
He's 155 on tour.
It's still, that's like where Rory is.
Nobody, no good players have a good driving accuracy.
More color, I don't get one to tell you.
It's drug dish holders in shoulders for the radio.
That's the start speak for themselves. It's less it's opening chat. That's the first time
admittedly and this is more of a me problem that I had seen that much of a cam champ
play golf. And to your point it was a more refined game than I was expecting.
You were wondering yesterday you're like, God, how does this guy not win all the time?
Yeah, somebody said like this stretch yesterday
was like, he is in complete control.
Yeah.
Uh, just the time it's 50, 58% of his fairways
to, to, uh, Londo Griffin's 55%.
Just for the record.
I mean, that was a lot of pressure, right?
He could have been the first govets arrived
to, he was the first govets driver to win a major.
That would have been big.
Again, the antibodies are the new PEDs. Where I was where I was going there was whose game though do you like more him or
wolf wolf so young I'll take wolf wolf 21 yeah that's he's supposed to be in college right now
I got more calories four year graduate like he is obviously accomplishing a ton for his age but four
year graduate probably he could've came out a year earlier
than he did.
He graduated from the high school business.
In four years, which is incredible.
Nobody does that.
Exactly.
But yeah, we are truly scratching the surface, I think.
I don't think he's gotten really scratchy.
I think Wolf's got a better attitude too.
Yeah.
Wolf showed us like some hundred tendencies
or like it was impressive watching him coming out.
It's like he was going at for it.
Yeah, if he gets a taste for blood,
he's gonna be.
That's a good way to put it.
He's gonna be very fun on Sunday.
Yeah.
He could be the killer that Rory refuses to be.
Exactly.
And DJ, that's it.
I can see Wolf being like a chimer type
where he just in like a,
like ultra-heaters from time to time.
Yeah, yeah.
That's, I think kind of what I'm getting at,
it's like when, if we get him once or twice
or three times a year, just waking up
on a Sunday morning like,
ah, you know what, man, I'm gonna go shoot 62.
I'm gonna, let's eat this.
Let's do it, I'm gonna go shoot 62.
Come on, it's gonna be so sick.
That would be awesome.
I'm way in for that.
And he's a better partner than people give him credit for.
He didn't put it good this week,
and it'd be his downfall.
First fall.
I just went to...
GD, what?
Just went to go the Driving Accuracy page on the PGA tour.
Brookskep goes 185th in Driving Accuracy.
188.
Shitty year.
Adam Scott is 188th in Driving Accuracy.
Wasn't this his first tournament?
No, he's played 26 measured rounds.
I guess going back to last year.
Listen.
So you can make the stats say whatever you want.
20 stats or bullshit.
What do you think does a better job of paying the picture?
The stats that you keep throwing out
or TC's eye through some text.
You see what he did at Houston?
As I'm talking about,
you weren't even watching that turn of it.
No, I watched him a bunch on corn fairy.
Six.
Don't even get me started on prem.
That guy shouldn't be playing professional.
Believe me, we are not going to get you started on prem.
I'm trying.
I'm really trying to get you started.
Shout out Joel Damon, $252,000.
So much money.
You knew exactly how much money was on the line
when he made that last part.
He was very happy on 18.
That was probably at least a $50,000 putt there
on 18, Zander T10.
Are we disappointed or enthused by Zander?
I felt like.
That's disappointing, weak for Zander.
You think?
67 today, but you know, 70 on Friday, 69 on Saturday.
That was a nice setup for him.
That was really nice. I don't know. I'm gonna push 69 on Saturday. That was a nice setup for him. That was really nice.
I don't know.
I'm gonna push back on that.
I'm gonna say top 10 of the majors,
not disappointing week for Xander.
He's a really, really strong major record.
Yes.
Yeah.
He's a very strong week.
I just, I expect him to elevate
when he shows up at a major.
I know he hasn't won one yet,
but like I expect more out of him in a major than I do
in a normal PJ.
He was disappointing Saturday.
I wish he would have did a little more.
Like, is our Zander and Morkawa like comps for one another as far as playing style?
I feel like Zander hits it a lot further, doesn't he?
I think Morkawa's ceiling is a lot higher.
Which is as far as like proper ass iron players that, you know, I think Xander's probably
a nice short ninth in driving distance.
He knew the ball.
He was pretty good.
And 55th in approach.
Do we want to talk Rory?
Did we do enough Keppka?
No, I don't.
We haven't talked any Keppka.
I kind of know what.
Life comes at you fast day today.
Well, all the shit earlier this week was fine, whatever.
That was sick, actually.
But then when he starts talking about DJ and Rory,
like I didn't really,
You may have lost the plot.
That fell a little bit over the top.
Or it's like, yo dude, like.
It's not fun anymore, man.
They pick up Bryson, everybody thinks that's sick.
We like that.
Yeah, those are kind of our guys.
Like, Rory, it dusted.
We like those guys.
Come on.
We're like, you know, it's like,
if you need to do that stuff to hype yourself up,
like, yeah, like maybe you're a sociopath.
Which is, we're fine with that.
I would cement his evidence.
That is sweet.
Yeah.
I'm fine with the sociopath part.
He lost strokes to the field, off the tee, seventh and approach, lost almost a stroke around
the greens, but and was pretty neutral and putting.
Pretty, pretty pedestrian.
He did not put well today, almost dead last in the field today.
And he was, he was all pissed after the round.
Said he got dicked down by some, some bad lies in the rough.
That must have caused him to lose 2.4 strokes on the green spotting.
You make a point though, you can never count out the scar tissue from last year.
From winning the PGA last year.
Yeah, exactly.
And almost letting it slip away.
Are you making fun of me?
Because this is what I said last year.
I was like, that is...
No, me and I have been...
I'm not great.
Okay, good.
Obviously it's fun to me for that.
Like that didn't look right.
He didn't like it.
He didn't like it.
He didn't like it.
He didn't like it.
He didn't like it.
Yeah.
I think it's funnier when you package it as like,
oh, him winning that major last year.
Yeah, I really shook him.
Yeah, I actually legitimately believed you.
Dude, okay.
It was Dustin that ran him down and the whole crowd
is rooting for Dustin as he's going.
And that was not a comfy win.
It has a one-month sense, which makes you think?
The math that, like, says Perch.
I thought the questions that they asked him after the round
were weak as shit, too.
Well, I want to be even asking him questions.
Might have just been like a PGA official.
Hopefully there'll be some good nuggets
in some of the game stories.
Hopefully just lightsen people up on Instagram.
That kind of seems like it.
For the hell.
Yeah.
I needed at least a note that he turned down
media after the round from the broadcast.
If he did, otherwise they didn't ask him,
maybe they did.
Either tell us he didn't do it
or tell us that you didn't ask him for a comment.
It was literally like gonna win three PGA's in a row.
So only a chance for him for a fully Mansky.
It should have been an absolute, like the only story. So I know we said that on the pod a couple times throughout the week,
but it like kind of should have been like the only story.
It's crazy that it wasn't.
And coming into into today, I mean,
what would you, how many people out of 10,
do you think pick Brooks to win today?
Seven, half of one?
To win today.
So I think coming into the week, like not even one.
No, I mean, I just mean looking at the leaderboard today,. I think coming into the week, like not even
one. No, I mean, I just mean looking at the leaderboard today and, oh, well, of course,
like Brooks is going to run everybody down. And then I mean, it was just over before
it started. The only majors Brooks hasn't won in the last four years are the ones like
mid tournament. I've switched to be like, oh, Brooks is going to win now. He's got this.
And he never wins it every any time I ever say that. Going back, funny note on J. Day, Van Everl, if we did something like this cart just screeching
his backs with on 13-T.
It could have been a...
And CVS was so far behind that they didn't show it for like three or four minutes and then
we finally see it and like
You didn't hear anything
Watch the
Stoke the mics were hot as hell
I was like, oh man like maybe it was jungle verse like something's going well
How about the happy Gilmore jackass guy practically a home game for him?
You know he was bucket is headed a pebble
Yeah, that was disappointing. Just
one last nail in the coffin for Kepp cut. So did you guys see Roy's comments after the
round today like saying, no, he had me totally confused by his like, yeah, I wouldn't,
yeah, I wouldn't say that about somebody has like three times as many wins as you do.
I go disrespect somebody like DJ. So what did Brooks actually say? He's like, I'm gonna miss this.
He's like, look at the board.
He's like, yeah, a lot of the guys up there,
they haven't really won.
I guess DJs won one, but yeah, like my chances
is when I've had a chance to be in this spot,
I'm paraphrasing this, of course.
When I've had a chance to be in this spot, I've got it done.
I kinda want to be like, actually,
last couple of times you haven't won,
and two, like, I don't know,
that was just a little aggressive and dismissive of DJ.
Where does Roy fit into this?
Yeah, what do you say, something like that?
Well, and this was on the heels of him saying before the week
that like him and DJ are always,
and that was like a media fabrication.
Roy said something along the lines of,
I'm not sure where he's going with that.
I'd be careful like being disrespectful to somebody
that has three times as many wins as you do.
Which, oh, so Roy was just jumping in on DJ's behalf?
Yes.
Gotcha.
I don't want to poke holes in this,
but I do remember doing a video for scratch
when I was working at the PJ Tour and we were doing this.
Well, sorry, just to finish the quote.
If he's trying to play mind games,
he's trying to do it to the wrong person.
I don't think DJ really gives much of a concern to that, but just different.
I try to respect everyone out here.
Everyone's a great player.
If you want a major championship, your hell of a player doesn't mean you've only won one.
You've won one.
You've had a lot to do.
You've had a lot to do.
A lot of good things.
It reads weird.
I mean, it's sort of hard to knock a guy who's got 21 wins on the PGA tour, which is three
times what Brooks has. So you it's not your scratch thing.
Well, I just remember doing a video with Brooks.
I'm sure this is out there somewhere, but where we literally asked him, like, who's your
best friend on the PJ tour and he said Dustin Johnson, just for what it's worth.
That was like, granted that was four years ago, but...
You say Brooks might talk out of both sides of his mouth?
No way.
I'm just saying.
I don't know that it was totally the fake news media that ran with that one.
But Randy, you were going somewhere?
Well, he also said, I guess Kebke said last fall about Rory.
I've been out here for what, five years.
Rory hasn't won a major since I've been on the PGA tour, so I don't view it as a rivalry.
That's right, I forgot about that.
First of all, he's not wrong.
And it is sick.
And I get that Rory was asked specifically about the DJ stuff, but I don't know.
It seems to me like it could have just been like, eh, that's between them.
So I don't need to worry about it.
I don't want to speak out of both side of our mouth either because I feel like we do
root on these guys to like, hey man, say what's on your mind.
Say what's on your mind.
Think, you know, go for it.
Take some shots.
It's I guess I'll applaud them at least a little bit
for some humanity.
Say you're welcome to say it
and we're welcome to comment
that I do this bullshit.
That's the frustrating part
about not really hearing him dish after the round
on this stuff that was brought up prior.
Yeah, he's like, he's trying.
He is actively trying to give us content.
Yeah. And so that's where I'm like, he's trying. He is actively trying to give us content. Yeah.
And so that's where I'm like,
he's got to get interviewed after the round.
But on the Rory note, this was sent over by a colleague.
The question he got after the round,
obviously winning majors is not easy.
Do you have any idea why you find it difficult
to hang around for 54 or 63 holes in recent seasons
compared to say earlier in your career?
Is it about getting off to those really fast starts or is there something else you can put your finger on? Rory McElroy says,
no, I don't know. Maybe I'm just not as good as I used to be. I don't know. I really
don't know. I feel like the golf I've played in the majors has been part, sort of similar
to the golf I've played outside of them. I've won some big events and I've played well
and I've had a good season last season. Yeah, I can't really put my finger on it.
I go out there and try my best every single day.
Some days I play better than others
and just got to keep going and keep persisting
and see if you can do better the next time.
That's a great quote.
And I love that he's that candid.
I will also say we did kill Sergio
for saying similar things.
Sergio said, I'm not gonna win one of these things.
I've learned I don't have what it takes to win a major.
Transcripts are different.
Dan's in act like a bitch for like 10 years.
Oh, sure.
The transcript on the Rory one's tough.
It'd be better to hear him, say it.
Maybe he's being.
He might have been joking.
Maybe I was good as I used to be.
Yeah.
Which doesn't seem like Rory's skills have deteriorated in any way.
I don't know.
Hell no. His wedges stink.
I think they've always stung though, haven't they?
I don't know.
Maybe it's just so jarring to see him hit mediocre wedge shots.
And maybe the stats don't pack this up, but they're not.
It's just so frustrating when you see him hit the most majestic drives and long irons.
And then you see him, you know,
just straight up miss a green from 110 yards,
like two out of four holes.
He seemed like he was driving like shit this week.
Yeah.
He was 10th, stroking enough to tee.
So it seems like, and I know this is a circular thing,
you can't like fake swagger and confidence
without playing really well,
but he just when he shows up at majors,
he looks like he's playing defense from the first tee.
He doesn't look like he's there to, like, he doesn't have that gate anymore.
He doesn't have that walk, that balance.
He doesn't look like he's ready to run the show.
Like, once he makes a couple bogies, yeah, he's kind of like gets it going and gets it,
gets it out of his system.
He didn't really have the run that he has become patented and majors for him, but who does
have that?
Who's going to have that going into the US Open?
Good question.
You know what I mean?
I feel like nobody has that right now.
Maybe the big golfer.
The big golfer has.
The big golfer's got swagger.
I mean,
I might be the only guy.
Well, no, more coward carries himself with.
Yeah, I don't, I like it.
I was swaggering more, but it's like,
from him, yeah.
It's just quiet confidence.
Yeah, I would say,
wing foot sets up better for more coward
than harding parked in. Yeah, exactly. That's what I mean. That's I got I would say wing foot sets up better for more cow than hearting parked in
Yeah, exactly. That's what I mean. That's what I'm saying about the PGA
I feel like you might have got the hardest one first. Yeah wolf swag wolf swaggy. Yeah, that's a good one
He's a swaggy boy. He is
But I was like Brooks. I don't know that Brooks is gonna necessarily be let it fly for the next couple a couple weeks
Months here
I would think he's gonna maybe have his tail between his legs a little bit after today
I wonder I don't think ever has it a couple weeks months here. I would think he's gonna maybe have his tail between his legs a little bit after today.
The Austin, I don't think ever has it.
I shouldn't say that he like physically has it.
Like I feel like he walks swaggerly.
He's got swagger in life.
Yeah, but I don't ever feel it like really
on the golf course.
I think JT can get there.
Yeah, that's a good one.
But he's not a curious one where it's like, dude.
What a weird week for him, man.
God, there's so many guys that were just like,
these are your top five golfers this week.
I'll go back to Rory.
I'm curious, and this is personal,
but I'm curious when they have kids.
I don't know, like he seems like somebody
that wants to start a family,
that wants to, you know, go down that road,
and like I'm curious as to how he's going to balance that,
how he's going to be in the near future here.
And I'm very curious to see how that affects his mindset
and his priorities as far as golf goes.
Because he's a super worldly, thoughtful,
like emotional guy, right?
It seems less single-minded than a lot of the guys out there. thoughtful like emotional guy, right?
It seems less single-minded than a lot of the guys out there.
And I say all that as a massive compliment.
So somebody that has stuff in perspective and has the world
by the balls kind of thing.
And it's like, yeah, he's one four majors.
Like maybe what's different from four and six to him.
I know he's a competitive, he's competitive as I'll get out too,
but that kind of ebbs and flows, I think a little bit too.
So, this is more just me wondering.
No, I like that.
And that's something I don't think any of us can ever know,
but I think right along those lines is like money, right?
Like when you have a hundred million dollars
plus in the bank, like what does that do as far as like
motivation and I'm gonna correct you only because he corrected Alkington when Alkington $100 million plus in the bank, like what? What does that do as far as like motivation?
And I'm gonna correct you only
because he corrected Elkington
when Elkington guessed how much money he had.
He said more like 200 million.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It seems like he needs,
you look at the guys like Tiger,
like he needs somebody to play off is what I think.
Like he has to have a foil almost.
I think Rory is, had a tremendous amount of success
and probably one more in that time period
than he quote unquote should have, right?
Like four majors in four years,
no matter how good you are, the math code.
A couple of them weren't majors either.
Correct, the international level doesn't count.
Yeah, thank you.
It just shouldn't happen that fast, right?
So spread out over a decade,
like he, his probably expectation, and there could be more on this on a podcast coming up, his expectation
for majors of one is probably spot on four. And if they were spread out a lot differently,
we would view it totally differently. He had a meteoric rise. The expectations became
very different for him. And when the results didn't follow, this is me prognosticating
on this. When the results didn't follow, I feel like he's tried very hard in the last five,
six years to justify how great, and not justify.
He realizes and appreciates how great his life is.
He has balance in his life.
He does what he wants.
He has all kinds of money.
I think it eats it more than he will admit,
or maybe even admit to himself.
I'm sure to him self, he admits it a lot more,
but the fact that he is not able to replicate this more frequently
in majors has to be hurting him.
But I feel like he tries to save himself.
Like, yeah, I've got what I,
if I never win the Masters, it's okay,
but I think deep down he doesn't fully accept that.
Oh, I think that's an excellent point.
I think a lot of it even further than that was like,
he's been famous for being a world-class golfer, like,
basically his whole life.
I mean, he and I are like the same age, and I'm struggling to remember a time in my life
where like I didn't know his name.
You know what I mean?
Like, he's always been the guy.
And I feel like, you know, Matt Wolf's always been the guy to an extent, but not even a shred
of what-
For five years of what Rory's been.
And, you know, I think the only comp in our generation
for that is like, spieth, right?
And I think he's probably going through
maybe a little bit of that.
Like, he's never in his entire entire entire life.
He's never not been like the best.
You know what I mean?
And that's just gotta be such a weird thing to reckon with.
I don't know how the hell you could possibly do that.
That's such a heavy thing to think about.
I have a feeling Rory money wise is probably,
like if you count like all the illiquid stuff too,
like is probably well north of 200 million.
That was like three years, that was three or four years ago.
When he got off Twitter, when he, like,
I feel like he is, he is,
Oh, he is me is dominating.
Investing well and stepping on me.
Should put the tax returns on golf pass.
Yeah.
He is dominated on the financial front.
But that's what I would subscribe.
Kind of struggles with that too.
Of like, God, I have so much money.
I have all this.
Like, the only, I don't know,
the only thing I have left to achieve right now
is more sporting accomplishment.
Yet, I've also achieved it.
I don't know, it's a weird thing.
Goes back to that A-Singer thing of like,
everybody wants to be noticed
and now when you're being watched, how's it go?
I mean, he won plenty when he was being watched.
So, let me push, but like, who's his rival?
You said that earlier, he needs a foil.
And I've been thinking about that since you said it.
And I don't know, I don't know, I don't know a good answer.
Because I think before it was like,
the rival was like, historical cat.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
And now he's kind of become like buddies with Tiger
and probably sees him a lot.
And it's almost like not the...
I definitely think there is a thing to like,
you gotta have somebody to push you.
Yeah, and...
Maybe Bruce's that guy.
You want the meta-take?
His rival?
His rival.
So have a teeny.
Yeah.
Wow.
No, like his own accomplishments are.
Yeah, but I just don't think it works the same.
I don't not agree with that.
That's right, that's what I'm saying.
Oh, yeah.
I still think it, no, I think it's part of the issue.
I think that's part of the issue.
He hasn't like had somebody beat him.
He has not done, he hasn't done it,
but enough in the last six years in a major to win it.
It's not like he and Brooks have gone head to head
and Brooks has come out on top.
Like it's, no, it's Brooks's time.
What's weird about that though is like when you do,
there's such a circular thing in golf where I feel like
every time, everything always circles back to you like,
man, cat's so good.
And I'm gonna do that here too, where it's like,
man, the only other person I can think of
that didn't have arrival and like actually was able to be like,
okay, no, the game is just like beat history and beat myself.
And I'm just like, all these other fucking people,
I'm gonna destroy them, just generations
after generations of people is the cat.
And he was able to do that.
And I don't think Rory, to your point, John,
I don't think he's as much of a sociopath as a sociable.
I was saying you have to be a sociable man.
And where I think he's just kind of like, man, what am I?
Yeah.
You know, maybe I don't want to.
He's asking why.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
And I think going back to Tiger, like where I get so frustrated with Rory is, like
Rory's got all those full shots and he's got that full swing, but like he lacks that
artistry of Tiger, you know, inside 120 yards to where he's playing
the truly different trajectories and different one hop and stop and all sorts of different
shots from 50 yards or 70 yards where I feel like Roy is just hitting a bunch of stock
shots.
I don't know if it's the last dance kind of thing or something,
but somebody's gonna have to make their life's work explaining to the general public how
much better Tiger was than everybody else. It wasn't just like he won the most tournaments.
It was like no, he did all the things that nobody else was able to do. It's anyways.
And then like technology hurt cat more than anybody.
Well, let me set you guys up for your TV rant
in that Guru's Speed first.
Oh, well, yes, I'll lead into it.
It'll be just, I'm sorry to cut you off,
but I think Tron had one more thing to say about Rory.
Oh, right, great, sorry, great take.
Friend, friends.
Do you want me to set the stage?
Yeah, in that I believe, if I may, as an outside arbiter, I believe Randy was really pushing you to accept
Randy's science that Rory has been declared dead for over a year now.
Well over, I believe.
And Tron, he was kind of trying to say like Tron, you need to shatter it off the pot, is
he dead or not?
I'm going to do it in a little bit different terms.
All right.
You know, I said to Randy, I said,
you know what, Rory's no longer with us right now,
but it's in the terms of,
we've taken the McRib off the menu for a while.
Okay.
So the McRib can come back.
He can come back.
He can come back once a year, unannounced.
The McRib is back.
But he's off the menu right now for the next, you know,
nine to 12 months at the very least.
God, TCO is so hopeful.
I'm just, I'm trying to separate my personal feelings
for the eye with his game.
And then I can't.
I'm incapable of it.
Okay, and that's very fair.
And I hope everybody realizes like,
I love how candid and I respect the shit out of Rory
as a person.
Obviously has nothing to do with him as a person.
He's got, yeah, when he wins one, he's coming for you.
I have a feeling that.
Which, hey, you know, that's part of the phone.
I'll take it of course.
That's the other thing.
I don't want to kill the guy off.
I know he's going to win at least
Two or three more that's what
He's giving out a lot of majors that you know not that it all comes back to but that's the fun of the Fina stuff man
Is it just a little extra rush?
I know shitty might win. I don't know if you're gonna do it. I don't know it's it's it's it's more it's more fun to play that game
When a guy hasn't won one yet. That's true.
But what I was going to say earlier is talking about Rory and kind of this whole, I've
summited the mountaintop and I'm looking around and what else is there to, what other
worlds are there to conquer, kind of vibe.
Awesome to have David Duval on the booth this week.
Like what better person to speak to the struggling Jordan
speed than him?
I'd first of all, we can do cat too.
I don't know if you guys, I honestly don't have any cat takes
really, but.
And go straight for speed.
I know we've talked about them some this week.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, cat and then.
Grind it and make the cat.
Weird week for ROM.
Yeah.
Weird week for JT.
I mean, it just felt like these guys,
there was no rhythm they weren't in.
This podcast alone is showing me more about
how deep professional golf is.
It's crazy.
I can just forget about Ram this week.
Yeah, I mean, complete non-fact.
Burger was involved.
Which goes back to that over under three and a half majors.
It's like, yeah, fuck.
Ram's probably gonna win three.
And which I'll say this, Rob doesn't impress me.
I'm sorry.
You said that a million times.
I know, it just, he's the least impressive
top 10 player to me.
He said that.
I don't know what he's good at.
I have literally everything.
Dundu it for me.
Waiter, take it away.
No, I don't need a bunch.
It's two, it's two rare.
There's too much fang.
Take it away.
Uh, speed finished to 71.
I don't know.
I don't have that much more to add than we've already said this week.
He's back, baby 300 today.
Exactly.
We rocked him.
Kick-cab because he got us today.
I mean, speed looked like he would have rather missed the cut.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah, for the first time. Although, I mean, I give him credit. He have rather missed the cut. Oh, first. Yes, first.
Although, I mean, I give him credit,
they were playing a money game.
He and Ryan Palmer were playing a money game today.
You can hear him.
One of them say, yeah, I'll hammer.
That on the...
Maybe we would have gotten a last hit by Palmer.
Today?
Oh, Palmer should be 64.
We did.
Yeah, sure.
So bad week gets worse.
And then, sorry, so you are less impressed by John Ron than your web Simpson or Patrick
Greed.
Because those are two top 10 players right now.
Yeah.
Oh, God.
I'm way impressed with Simpson.
He's been awesome.
Read, done do it for me either, but I actually think reading Ram,
that's a really great,
I don't know, those guys strike a lot
of the same chords for me.
And then Adam Scott, I was really disappointed
in Adam Scott last couple days.
The threads were just coming up.
I think he was probably a little rusty
because he hasn't played, but I don't know.
It's just happened, bombed.
What?
I mean, where do we want to go on, Spieth?
What's the, who wants happened. BOMD. What? I mean, where do we want to go on, Spieth? What's the...
Oh, God.
Who wants to start?
It sucks.
It sucks for the game.
It sucks as a fan.
It sucks when he's not playing well.
It sucks when people say, like, God, like, why do you guys care so much about Spieth?
Like, why do you not care about anything?
It's like, go on Twitter.
Like, were you not taken by, you know,
like when, like he just magically beats everybody's ass
at a gustor for three days and like,
like that's cool and you feel alive
when he's doing that stuff
because at all the entire time it feels
like it's hanging by a thread.
Exactly.
I feel like people forget 2018 masters,
the run he made. Yeah.
It gets the bogey on 18. He was gunna birdie it. If that ball doesn't hit that tree limb,
he was gunna birdie it was going to be a flying around 62 when he probably was going to win
the masters. It was going to be one of the greatest rounds in golf history. And like the
feeling of that back nine when he ran that putty on 16, looks at Greller and says, are you
kidding me? Tell me if you didn't appreciate that moment
or you don't appreciate speed for that,
then you were dead to me.
Now, how's that?
You can feel he's whiny or you can feel that,
like he's not that technically good,
because he's not.
He's like, he's greater than the sum of his parts, right?
Of course.
I think he, what you said about earlier,
like the artistry missing,
like I feel like that's part of the reason
why I love Jordan
is because it's not robotic, it's not,
like there is, there's spirit there, there's art.
It, yeah.
It's so weird because it is not a total loss of gain, right?
He is not missing cuts, he's not bombing out,
it's not like off the face of the planet, yet,
I think we've been pretty consistent on this, not close. No, it's not. I the face of the planet. Yet, I think we've been pretty consistent on this,
not close.
It's not.
I mean, he's had burn.
I've been inconsistent.
Hand up, hand up here.
The point I've made on repeat is like,
dude, the birdie average is there.
He is making a ton of birdies,
but he is not driving it anywhere near well enough
to stay consistent and stay out of making black numbers,
whatever you call bogies.
It happens very frequently.
That average is horrible.
It happened a ton this week.
I mean, should he made five birdies today, but yesterday on Saturday, he made four bogies
on the front, four bogies on the back.
This was not a good course for him.
No, it was, yeah, it was always a bad setup for him.
And after round one, I thought he was going to miss the cut.
And he might have been better off doing that.
But he did work his ass off on the range Saturday
and figured out something.
He shot 68 on Friday.
I think going back, he's a Thursday.
Like going back to this,
he's greater than the sum of his parts thing.
It's like, it's really weird to watch him
when you still see all of those parts there
and you can't figure out why it's not adding up to more.
Like that's the confounding part.
Yeah, the secret sauce is gone.
You know what I wanna see from him
that we've literally never seen, so probably won't is,
and I know part of Bryson's Cheese Dick Act
is like things he says in the press conference,
but Thursday or Friday maybe it was even Saturday
in his press conference, he said like,
you know what, like in the past,
I've always viewed myself as like a really unlucky golfer.
Like I'm always so unlucky. And you know what, this week the past, I've always viewed myself as like a really unlucky golfer. Like I'm always so unlucky.
And you know what, this week I just kind of tried
to look at it differently.
And he was noticeably less whiny
about when things didn't go his way.
He didn't like grimace on missed pods.
He just like went up and hit.
Brison, here's the thing.
Yeah, Brison.
And that seemed to work really well for him.
To the point of like, we didn't feel like we saw
the best from Brison and he granted out a T4,
whatever it was.
I think that is a hundred percent of contributing factor.
Speed needs that times 10.
Did you see his...
He lives and dies with every single shot and bounce
and all that and he is not hitting it good enough
to be able to live and die with that.
You gotta accept some balance in your game.
Did you see his quotes this week
that he was talking about exactly that?
It was like the only quotes I saw from him
where he was kinda like, man it's so unlucky.
He's like, it seems like a lot of my career,
like the bounces have gone the right way,
and now it really seems like they're all going the other way.
And yeah, I don't know if that's totally the right way
to look at it.
You know, from my expertise at winning multiple majors.
The longer he keeps building up this scar tissue
and searching.
So I guess the question is, does he need to,
does he need to, what, like,
does he need to make a significant change?
I don't know.
Yeah, like probably.
I don't know enough about the golf swing to say that.
And I don't know enough about everything that goes on.
But do I think, like I said,
do I think he's close and like about turn the corner?
No.
I don't think we're seeing any of those signs.
It's such a hard question.
I feel like because I feel like McCormick
and really like that whole team has been there
since he was 12 years old.
It's not the same as like,
oh, he needs, he just needs a new swing coach.
It's not Sean Foley when he was tiny.
It's not like, Cameron McCormick knows
how the golf swing works.
He knows how Jordan's speech golf swing works. That's not the only thing he he was. It's not like, Cameron McCormick knows how the golf swing works. He knows how Jordan's
spitz golf swing works. That's not the only thing he's trying to fix here. I
would guess. I don't know any of this, but I mean, he's trying to fix like, we're
talking about our other this week, John. It's like his golf swing has always been
highly imperfect, right? And, but it's it's worked. I assume a big part of
that is it's worked because the confidence factor, it's worked because of the, you know,
this special sauce we're talking about.
And now that's gone.
And so it's like, all right,
how do we band-aid an imperfect swing?
How do we maybe build a new imperfect swing
that still feels right?
But it's like, there's so many moving parts
that it just seems so hard.
But what it does seem like deeply,
extremely from the outside looking in is like maybe just a hard hard, but what it does seem like deeply, extremely from the outside looking in
is maybe just a hard reset, you know,
just doesn't seem like it would hurt.
And it's weird because you feel like this is rock bottom,
but then you remember, like, he made the fucking cut.
Like, he's been making cuts all year, you know?
There's just enough color and a colonial, right?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm worried about Greller.
I just, you know, like he, you know,
I don't know if you guys saw the clip yesterday
where he's like, dead fucking straight,
dead fucking straight.
Like hands the putter to my, like,
it's not Mike's fault, man.
Yeah.
Jordan, don't take it out on him, man.
He wants, you guys are on the same team,
which I don't think is necessarily blaming Greller.
No, I don't think so.
All right.
Who wins a major first?
No, Greller, George.
Speed, McElroy, Dustin.
All right, so we are,
Wingfoot.
He will are screaming Rory.
Clenching their steering wheel.
Screaming Rory's name right now.
So we've got Wingfoot, then it's R great. It's Roy. I would say dust then Augusta again
doesn't it's been stinky then
Then where's PJ next year? Kioa Kioa practically home game for Dustin and and that's that's a rib course
And I guess he won there by a
Royal St. George Practically home game for Dustin That's a rib course. And I guess he won there by, a Royal Saint George. A legend.
Practically home game for Dustin.
And where do you also open next year?
Who gets a, Tori?
Tori, yeah.
Rib.
Rib.
Yeah.
DJ.
Has anyone of farmers?
It's a very DJ tournament.
Maybe.
You used to live in LA, practically home.
You.
You.
I'll stop.
Sorry, that's your bit.
How long ago does it feel like when Bryson Sorry, right? That's your bit.
How long ago does it feel like when Bryson broke his shirt?
That was six weeks ago.
That was six weeks ago.
First day.
God yeah.
So everybody picks a Rory.
Are you picking to be safe pick?
I'm picking JT.
Like literally, he wasn't an option.
I got, I'm picking it.
I literally might pick speed.
That's, that's, I mean, a couple cracks at Augusta.
That's how deep this runs for me.
I know.
What if he just starts, like, stops playing most places
and only plays Augusta?
Hard times.
Hard times.
Yeah.
John Deere.
He just rocks up like four times a year.
I just, here, let me underscore one thing.
Speed is 27, man.
Like, he's 27.
He's one of the, already you can tell, like,
one of the most talented people to ever play golf.
You can tell that by watching him the last five years, right?
It's like, dude, he's gonna figure it out.
And if you guys wanna jump, not you guys,
but the larger people,
if they wanna jump off the bandwagon, man,
good riddance, say la vie.
But I'm not jumping off the bandwagon,
I'm just, something needs to be changed, it'sagon. Something needs to be changed.
It's obvious.
Something needs to happen.
It's not getting better.
It doesn't seem like.
I'm saying when it's time, there will be clear signs.
And there are signs are not there yet.
Yes, I agree.
But I am remain hopeful as I know Randy does.
Of course.
Good times are ahead.
Stay the course.
It's always darkest before the dawn.
Exactly right.
Do you make that up?
I got a check.
Somebody might have said that.
This might have been a record.
How long we made it.
Is it time?
We got to put time, let it sign it.
Please.
I mean, we got anything else after it?
Fleetwood.
Fleetwood was a very dis-pointing thing.
You know what?
I was telling Dej though.
Messed up a big par life in the kid.
He's only had three, three four years of majors.
I want to give him until he's had five four years of majors
until I really.
It does seem like it's been a lot longer.
So that kind of talked me off the ledge a little bit.
He's had a lot of success.
Where it seems like he should have just barred stormed in
and won these things and.
You're, I think you're right.
We need probably a little bit more time.
Almost dead last and guys that made the, the cut in Strokes Game approach.
That's just so bizarre.
He's just asserting.
Yeah.
So I don't, and probably a lot of Ross has played in the back of the doubt because he,
he was over, he was over in England hanging out with the fan, you know, for, for the last
yeah. Six, eight weeks before this.
Two quick guys. We don't want to spend much time, but
Daniel Burger continues to play really good golf and
props to Hal Tongue for not disappearing.
His 16, I mean a late double two on on 18 today, but I was impressed. He hung around much more than I expected and we haven't talked about
A much on this show, but we talked about him in the round recaps.
Give proper attention to how tongue I think.
Oh, shout out to Brennan Todd,
to you 17 at that golf course,
that was not what I would have drawn up for him.
And one thing I'd like to just alert everybody too,
just out of an abundance of caution,
Justin Rose appears to be playing good golf.
So everybody keep your eye on Swivel,
he may be around to pick one of these off here pretty soon.
Threat level orange.
Threat level is creeping up.
Tough weekend for...
Why don't you guys like Justin Rose?
So it's such a tough week.
Your friend Mike Lorenzo Vera.
Tough weekend.
Tough weekend.
Tough weekend.
Did you guys, a lot of people were banning
about the Mike Lorenzo Vera player diary
that he wrote for the European tour.
Did anybody read this or any of this stuff?
You were telling me about it today.
One story that really bears repeating from there
was that the guy, there's a whole backstory
about this about how he basically had one
really good year in professional golf
and just spent all his money. Just all of it.
Partying, everything's on me.
We're going out all the time.
You guys spend money to make money.
Until, and he goes, it's said,
I don't know what the problem is.
We spent all our money.
But he goes into great detail about like,
literally just would use my credit card
until it didn't work.
And I called the lady at the bank was screaming.
Like, why is this not working? You don't have any money. So he went into massive debt, just a fascinating,
extremely candid story. But he was talking about, I think he was in the lead at Dubai.
He's either Dubai or Abu Dhabi, big, big tournament. And so he's, he's got the 54-hole lead
and he's in his hotel room and he's freaking out because he's like,
I just can't stop thinking about how much money it would be
if I win.
And he's like, I couldn't fall asleep, couldn't fall asleep,
so I got him my computer
and I started looking up what kind of car I would buy
if I won.
Yeah, that didn't help either.
I picked up this half a million dollar Lamborghini
that I was gonna get.
And yeah, I just fell apart the next day. But anyways, I picked out this like half a million dollar Lamborghini that I was gonna get. And yeah, I just, you know, fell apart the next day.
But anyways, I was thinking about that this week where it's like, man, he's,
he might be car shoppin' here after 36 holes, but maybe, maybe just a nice car.
Nice camera.
I remember Sam and Colona a couple years ago when we were over there for the BMW
national and just thinking, God, this guy's aesthetic is so cool.
It's outstanding.
Yeah.
So hopefully we see him more.
He was a shot of life there for the first few days. guys aesthetic is all about. Outstanding. Yeah. So hopefully we see him more.
He was the shadow life there for the first few days.
We, can I put in a request, maybe a podcast though?
Sure, a podcast guest.
One more guy, Patrick Cantlay.
I want him to know we're actively monitoring the situation.
It could be, Wingfoot could be, yeah.
We, monitoring like your ass.
Yeah, or you're upset.
You're putting my notice already?
Just, you know, it's a notice.
That's all it is.
I'm saying you're saying positive.
No, he's saying negative.
He's really good and he's just, you know,
come on Patrick, we gotta be a little better.
73 today is the most disappointing
after a good day yesterday, a tough 66 yesterday.
Wingfoot should be a very good Patrick Cantlay, I would think.
I would think so.
Set Morkowski.
I watched some Keith Mitchell or Spina.
How does that guy not...
He drives the fuck out of it.
Dickeyless man.
He hits it.
And like whenever I see him on, every time, like,
damn, that guy's really good.
Three weeks later, I forget him.
You know, see you swinging again.
Damn, that guy's really good.
Like, come on, dude.
You guys got two minutes on the cat.
I mean, I just don't think there's lots to say.
About what you expect.
Totally unsurprising.
Yeah, I mean, he just hasn't played golf
and it was like a cold.
People were mad at me because I already peed him
and I had the courtesy to wait until the freaking
round start.
That was very responsive.
That was big of me, right? That was very responsive. That was big, I mean, right?
That was very responsive.
A lot of maturity.
I feel like I've said this for a major past,
but I want to just be proud of everybody
that I feel like we're keeping the cat expectations
completely within bats, you know?
Yeah, it feels great.
Cats still gonna have to pick his spots, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
I just, I like that we're not living and dying with everything.
I don't even know what he shot today,
and that's a great feeling.
Golf is deep, right?
Exactly.
That's how it's going to be.
That's what I want that to be.
His open.
He should retire there after he wins it.
There's nothing I would want to see more than that.
That's what I want to see.
That's what I want to see.
That's what I want to see.
That's what I want to see.
That's what I want to see.
That's what I want to see.
That's what I want to see.
That's what I want to see.
That's what I want to see. That's what I want to see. That's what I want to see. That's what I want to see. That's what I want to see. I think if the big golfer wins a major before then, they're gonna roll back the ball and fuck up all the way.
That's what I was telling the Chinese.
He's like, man, how's it feel like
you're riding so hard for Bryson?
Because I went pretty all in
after the whole rock and mortgage thing.
But I was like, you know, the only way
that shit happens with the golf ball
and all the stuff is like, Bryson's gotta go win
like eight majors.
We need to, we need the majors. Like we need it.
We need the big golfers are way forward.
We need it.
It's almost like a quasi-trojan horse.
Exactly.
He is the generic in the cold world.
Yeah, yeah.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Can I say this about both Bryson and Brooks
and that I don't like either of them?
They should just make out already.
And I root for both of them.
And that is so rare and golf.
Exactly.
So rare and golf.
That, God, that's well said.
That's exactly how I feel.
But it's fun that you don't like them.
And I think we need more guys.
We need more guys like that.
I feel like it's exactly.
You have to be able to separate yourself from like,
I don't like when you're watching it.
It's like, oh, he's such a good guy.
I hope he wins.
Like, come on, man, it's an entertainment product.
He was the most entertaining guy.
That's like, they're all fair.
They're the two guys.
Everybody falls all over themselves to see
how much of a class act Justin Roses.
You know what, I don't fucking like him.
Good, yeah.
Get him out of here.
That's healthy.
Yeah, in the converse it's true too.
Like, it's fun to root against guys that are like, good guys. That's healthy. Yeah, in the con versus true too, like it's fun to root against guys
that are like good guys.
Yeah.
Do we want to talk about Ricky's chunk butt
to biskecut?
Oh my gosh.
That was brutal man.
It's tough.
Randy's too classy to jump out of there.
Ricky's going through some swing changes.
We're just going through things.
He's going through some stuff.
I've been contemplating a bit on, on Richard Flower lately.
I like people are teaming up on him too much.
Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
A lot of people kind of getting on your block.
The bit's gone too far, maybe.
It's like too real almost.
Everybody's takes want to be noticed.
Nobody wants that nobody's takes want to be watched.
No. It's like, God, no, I actually thought he'd win a major right now.
No, no.
And now he's, and now he's got Morikawa on his Japanese heritage block.
That's...
Yeah?
Yeah, he's not the Puma Alpha anymore.
He's not the Japanese Heritage Alpha anymore.
He didn't even stick around to congratulate him.
After F-100A, he's not the Red Bull Alpha.
He's not the Red Bull Alpha anymore.
Yeah, how many minutes are we doing on?
We got to get it to Hansard Amph them first. I've been waiting for so long. What's going to we do?
You got to sit out. No, what's the time limit that we're giving these guys?
There's unlimited time. We wait in an hour 36. There's no more golfers. I can see 30 seconds each 30 seconds.
Oh, no 60 seconds. You got to leave if you want. It's a major. Can we talk positives first?
Yes, PN.
Yes, PN plus.
Start the clock.
Start the clock.
No, this is not a count.
Get out of here.
Get out of here.
VanPel, what's his name?
Macdonough was awesome.
Here's what I'll do.
You guys go as long as you want.
I'm just going to shout out when you hit another minute.
No.
That's one.
All right, let's talk, paying to watch golf.
Some people had an issue with that.
I have absolutely no issue with that.
Yeah.
Well, it was paying to watch golf.
Thanks, Constable.
It was a quality to watch additional golf
because in the past that wasn't.
The past they had feature groups online.
And they, you had to pay to watch that,
which I get that, also these probably the same people
that will pay for a $5 cup of coffee and not think about it.
Also, people, have you looked at what you're paying
for ESPN and your freaking cable?
That was kind of their point though,
is we are paying for ESPN and they're putting it
behind the paywall, which again, I get a bunch of...
The Jackson, I'd like to strike that.
He's never regrets that one.
I thought their coverage was fantastic.
It was the right amount of joking, right amount of serious,
just a good, strong balance and a refreshing,
different look at golf and Mike McQuade and the producers
there just did either a thought of fantastic,
just gonna be really, really interesting when they
start televising PGA tour events on
ESPN Plus and that's 22 Fridays and all that. And it's like, man, like, are they going to be able to be as open and honest and direct
about players? Because there's no chance that that, you know, like, I
had I tweeted something this week and three or four different
commentators we shout and they're like, yeah, like there's no chance we could ever say that on golf channel.
Like we would get a call from the tour within like 30 seconds.
I just like that they that felt like I was watching a major championship when they were on the air.
They were covering it like a legitimate sporting event.
They felt important to them and it was treated differently And I appreciated that and it made me very excited.
It made it extremely jarring when the coverage switched over
in the afternoons in the evening.
Blue Brown, I think it was Blue Brown on two minutes in.
Maybe it, he thought you summed it well.
He said, he said, ESPN treated it like golf fans
were the customer and golf was the product and the PGA tour and CBS treated like
The commercials are the product and the customer is like the corporate partners. Yes. I'm a financial advisor
What a fan
Yes, she is
I feel like we've come a long way in that we have tried so hard to share the blame at CBS
with the PGA tour and say like you're stipulated by all this stuff, we understand all that.
They suck.
I can't do it for a fucking major.
That was disgraceful.
What happened at the end with Paul Casey, people didn't really notice it yet, I know
it, he didn't end up making the platter,
didn't end up making a birdie.
The fact that he played the 72nd hole of a major
with a chance, if he birdies 18 and more cowabogies,
they are in a playoff.
They went to commercial and put that on tape.
Like what are we, that is the final shot
of like a Hail Mary three pointer
at the end of a basketball game.
Like while we were away, James Harden missed a three pointer.
That's the equivalent of that.
Even before that, they didn't show Dustin's shot on 16.
Morikawa's, like, hits one of the greatest shots in the history of major championship golf
and they cut immediately to commercial after it.
Like, it just totally nuked the momentum,
nuked the broadcast, and it's like, guys, like what?
I will chime in here.
I very much have felt that for a long time.
That's what kills the flow so much.
Is when it was Fox, and they're doing the whole
commercial free or whatever, you got,
you just sink into the couch,
and you just like marinate in those moments.
And even when Moorakawa finished, and like, it's clear, like he won.
It's over, right?
And it's like, dude, here's the closest we've had to like the next big thing.
Like we just saw it.
This is a, what feels like a watershed moment in golf.
It's like, man, let's follow him to the scoring trailer.
Like, let's sink in a little bit.
And it's just immediate like, ah, there's your winner.
Now let's hear about fucking rock and mortgage or whatever and
Sorry, Randy. No free ads people would counter and say well, you know Fox was losing money hand over fist
Yeah, like that was a conscious decision on their end they overpaid for the for the rights
But also like figure out more creative ways to like honestly, if you guys wanna put some of your dumb,
slanted signage,
up your stupid graphics up,
put them in the middle of Lake Merced,
and give it, that's fine, just show us more golf.
Like,
I forget where I was gonna go with that,
but, oh, here's where it was.
First year, first year of a brand new deal
between ESPN and CBS.
All right, so we saw the NBC is picking up
the USGA package right?
Five minutes.
Five minutes.
We have, they have iconic music for US opens.
Like you know that music and you,
it feels like a different event.
The first year of a new deal, you can't switch the music.
All I can hear is the players music.
In my head.
The players music is sweet.
It has grown on me.
The players and the international players.
The international players.
You're gonna play the same music that you play week and week out.
CBS thinks they're all cute because they're playing San Francisco themed music
in and out of some of the bumpers.
Thought I was Duran Duran. Someone very deep cut for grateful dead fans. They're all cute because they're playing San Francisco themed music in and out of some of the bumpers. Fought us to render in.
Someone very deep cut for a grateful dead fans, but they're like the fact that they're
playing a studio version of Estimated Profits shows exactly what CBS is bringing to the
table.
How many times did they show that that blimp shot of the fucking clouds?
I thought the only chance we were going to see Tommy Fleetwood was his ascension above the clouds. That was the only chance we were going to see Tommy Fleetwood was his ascension above the clouds.
That was the only chance we were going to see him.
Can we at least have some fun and talk about the Fowdo
Phil part? I know we talked about on Saturday's show
but absolutely. Absolutely.
I'm glorious.
Phil showed you
what a good fun broadcast could be.
There's been a lot of times
I'm sure we've overstepped on a lot of covered stuff.
But I think our core message
has been like, man, just make it engaging
and just like talk to people like their golf fans
and talk to people like the way that they seemingly
want to be talked to.
And it was so weird, man, who would have thought
that like Phil comes in and like starts dropping insights
and expertise and everyone's like, wow, this is great.
It's like, okay, cool, we're not quite as crazy as like, I feel sometimes.
Dottie got some pepper, Steph.
Everybody got pepper in their stead.
Ian Baker Finch was great.
He's bouncing stuff off the fill.
It was awesome.
Felt it was cowering in the corner.
Now, look at it.
Yeah.
What a, that was tough to watch, Felt it.
And I know putting a box.
Phil is one of the few people in the world that can do it to that level,
but it was so simple.
What he was saying, it was very pointed.
It was, I just came off this golf course and here's how I played it.
This shot is so difficult right here.
Here's why it's difficult rather than just like them always telling us what's on the
screen.
And that's what lulls you to sleep and it's all you see.
And I, I don't know why I thought it'd be different and it wasn't and it was so disappointing. And they are incapable of handling a major championship.
100% incapable.
I wanna sneaky give Nance a little bit of credit
in that I feel like he's been trying since,
not saying that we have anything to do with this,
but like since the greater zeitgeist has kind of started
noticing like man, Fowler doesn't really say anything.
I do feel like Nance has been trying to pull stuff out of him.
So the last few years, and I couldn't tell
if it was, do you know what I'm talking about?
I don't know if it was rhetorical,
or if it was, maybe I just heard it wrong,
but you're talking about today.
Brooks, yeah, it was Brooks,
he's like, yeah, Nick and 74 today, you know what,
what happened? It was just and it was just silence for like 20 seconds until dance eventually came back
on.
So I was like, I don't know.
Feldon maybe thought that that was like a rhetorical question like boy, what happened?
But I think it was like it was like, Hey man, six time major champion.
Like, what do you think Brooks was going through today?
And it was just kind of.
Oh, oh, oh, yeah. I'm major champion. Like, what do you think Brooks was going through today? And it was just kind of...
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh, man.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Sorry, I wasn't paid.
I was looking at my phone.
What did you ask?
Watch my show on CBS.
Oh my God.
Bryce makes a 95 footer on 18, whatever it was.
And it was immediately just...
Yes, that was...
DJ Sworry was gonna sit this one out.
DJ, seven minutes.
Seven minutes.
I'm out.
Last thing I'll have is it is, maybe it is, it's, you know, it's not a big, that big of
a deal, but you know, you have to follow golf on shot track or what you'd be at because
there's so far behind on all these shots.
And when they show them, you know, like the, the announcers, if they don't get any predictions
around, Fouda is going to never get some wrong. It's because they're watching it on replay. And it's like, oh, if they don't get any predictions wrong. Fouda is going on that ever get some wrong.
It's because they're watching it on replay and it's like me.
It's like, oh, he might you got to be careful.
This one might go long here with this much club and it goes long every single time because
they're watching replay that's that's fucking professional.
Like that's bullshit.
Like I can't produce it like the way we pretty well.
We're like, pretty much.
Yeah.
So the majors they're they're contractually.
I'm watching those shots.
I'd repeat as well.
To have the shot tracker and everything,
a certain amount of time behind.
I have no idea.
Say again, like they're contractually obligated
to have shot tracker a certain amount of time behind
for majors.
The PJ Tour leaderboard, I believe.
At least that's how it was five years ago.
But the PJ Tour leaderboard everybody always bitches,
like, oh, it's 15 minutes behind,
why is this updating so slow?
And it's because the PJ Troy doesn't own the event.
And so to make the PJ of America's website more valuable,
they're supposed to be 15 minutes.
But the PJ America app was shitty this week
because it was just as slow as the PJ Troy app.
I think I've said all I have to say,
I don't know if we wanna move on to form the one now.
Stop the fight.
No, it's just, I think that's different.
I guess if that was a PGA.
That's a clean 10 minute.
If that was PGA tour week, I would have spent 30 seconds on just saying it as bad as
always, but it's just disgraceful for that big of an event.
And I'm poor, never.
It's so jarring late in the season when you get, like, it's one thing when if this would have been 3M
or Memphis or whatever, in the normal schedule,
you know, or even, I mean, I guess we're far enough
into August, it probably would have been
the windmower, the first playoff event.
But when you get a major in their pumping,
the season finale this week,
and then the FedEx cup playoffs,
and like how
how like little
Like that resonates within you doesn't feel like a lot of juice this week at the wind him
And I like the wind like that's a tournament that like a great trap draw coming out on day awesome soap hump for yeah
Ertuz day excuse me to do segments.? Sure. I'm not very organized on this one, but I can start,
if you need some time to think,
rub the green of the week,
I think it was an absolute no brainer
trying to loot it to it earlier.
Bryson's driver.
No.
No, I thought you were going somewhere else.
Really?
Tongues ball talk.
I'm not sure about, of course.
Well, that's a much more literal interpretation
of the Royad Bryson's driver.
Of course, I'm sure everybody listening to this side,
but the big golfers driver literally broke
in the middle of competition.
Everybody died.
That's been all the swings I was putting in.
It would have been more over the green
if he was not able to replace it.
And then he pimped the shaft company for solid,
which I believe he's a part owner of.
And it's like, in order for it, yeah,
it was a great Jiu-Jitsu of like,
it has to work so well in order for it to yeah, it was a great Jiu Jitsu of like it has to work so well
in order for it to be able to break.
And these materials are so advanced now that that was that was a weird one.
That was that was what I had.
I had a women's am final, Gabby Ruffles, 38th hole.
That wasn't your you hate to see it?
Well, it was kind of a rub of the grain, you know, that sometimes the putt goes in sometimes. You know what? There wasn't that was everybody was a winner today after
that concession on the 36. Yeah, golf, golf won. It was the classiest thing I've ever
made. Maybe that was comic, you know, Zang gave the putt to Gabby on the 36 hole about
two and a half three footer. And then Gabby kind of horseshoe lipped one from three and a half feet on the 38th hole
to lose her, what would have been a second back-to-back
women's am.
That was tough.
That's a bummer.
All credits are rose, hang though.
She's awesome.
17 year old, great golf swing.
My rub of the green was going to be,
is a more of a ball don't lie situation, which was Halton Lee getting a crazy good bounce off a tree,
crazy good bounce with his approach shot on Saturday,
then making birdie, then coming back and hitting one
and getting it lost in the tree.
That was just, that's the rubber, the green.
Yeah, my name was Halton, so.
Okay, easy enough.
You hate to see it of the week.
For me, again, I took it very literally
was the financial advisor commercial.
Just because I literally hated seeing it every time it was on.
Mine was Lydia Co.
Yeah.
That was brutal.
Double Bo ye.
I turned it off because it was like jitter wrapped up.
She made a seven on the 18th hole,
part five to lose by one and really finished
the last five holes at four over.
It was tough, tough scene.
Can you, as someone who doesn't watch
much of the women's game admittedly,
can you put it in a perspective
what Liddy Co has been going through?
I mean, is it, is it been a species struggle?
Yeah, she, you know, was,
she's been through like head and shoulder caddies the best player in the world
And then I think she's won her last win. She's won once she won in San Francisco
2016 I think her Lone win was 2018. She's won one time
She won it like we're said I think in 2018. Yeah, and that was like oh her return and then it kind of faded again
And then this was gonna be another one Danielle Kang winning two events in her rose
She's the Vaimptaleta.
The vaunted Toleta double.
What are we, what are we gonna call her?
The mudhead.
She's the mudhead.
That was gonna be by you hate to see it.
God, well, you know what, I've got a couple of hate to see it.
Please.
First of all, scam tree and golly.
DQ.
Didn't dequeue.
Wrong score, car.
Hate seeing that.
Hate seeing Ryan Ruffles shot 63.
I thought he was gonna get it done this week.
She's 74, 72.
Weekend finishes T-22.
He's pounding away though, man.
He's playing good golf.
It's gonna happen for him.
I was hoping we were gonna see a Ruffles double.
That would've been great.
This weekend.
And then, gosh, what was my other hate to see it?
I blanked.
Okay.
Oh, you hate to see that.
You do hate to see that.
So box, real quick one.
I feel like I've mentioned this a couple times,
but always seems to come around for the PGA.
I feel like the PGA kind of lacks a bit of identity.
I don't, it just kind of feels like
the other major a lot of the time. I don't really know, you
know, the US Open is the hardest test, the massages of the
massages, the British Open, the British Open. I don't really
get a sense of identity from the PGA. I would love to see it
become the the major that goes to public golf courses. I think
that would be such a cool block. Glory's first shot is what
it is. There you go. Glory's first shot is what it is. Oh, there you go.
Glory's first hole.
But I would love to see, I think that'd be really cool.
I think Harding Park was a great example of that.
And I just think that would be a cool block.
Amen to that.
I would 100% be behind that.
Real quick.
I remembered my last year to see it.
Please.
Zach Johnson, chirping people on Twitter after the after the first round,
because people were associating him with.
There's another Zach Johnson in the field.
Zach Jones, of course, Jay Johnson out.
Yeah.
Who shot a million the first day at Club Pro.
And then Zach, the main Zach Johnson ends up
blowing up on Friday and after chirping all these people and missing the cons.
You do hate to see that.
Yeah.
No, amen to the PGA.
I mean, these big organizations,
what a great way to actually put their money
where they're mouth is.
And there's a lot of accessibility
and growing the game.
Yeah, of course, there's a lot of club professionals
that I'm sure do great work at private clubs as well
and not to take anything away from them.
But yeah, if the PJ of America is going to be kind of
grow the game, guys, and I feel like that would be a great
place to start.
A lot of really good public golf courses you can go to.
Where's that lever?
USGA in that.
I would put the USGA more as the grow the game.
Well, I would too, but if you watch the messaging
this week that didn't really seem to be,
I mean, that I guess they're both doing it. I don't know. They're both growing
it. That's why it's so big. Maybe growing it too much. Numbers room. Wait up. I just have
a very cheesy one. It's nice to have, you know, a major back. It was a great week of golf.
A bit controversial though. Like I will take the British open European television schedule
over the West Coast schedule.
That's shocking to me.
A coffee golf is awesome.
Oh no, I agree.
The rest of you guys open.
The rest of you guys open.
Someone who hates waking up before 8 a.m.
That's the most unbelievable thing I've ever heard.
Oh, I'm not gonna watch it, you haven't
before 8 a.m.
But it's over like one and then you get the rest of the day.
Maybe this should have been my you hate to see it.
Some of the Europeans that were chirping that they should have teed off you got the rest of the day. Maybe this should have been my, you hate to see it.
Some of the Europeans that were chirping
that they should have teed off earlier
so the Europeans can watch it.
Can you imagine if we churped about the time
that the Brits teed off at the UK British Open?
Yeah, teed off later so we can sleep in a little bit.
Yeah, that's chef's kiss.
I don't have a soapbox Sunday.
Other than, you know, it's finally time for us
to take a little trip.
Oh, we're gonna be gone the next two weeks
for filming Taurus Soss Season 6.
Got some pods loaded up in the cannon
to blast off during that time,
but it's time to get away.
We've, it's been way too long.
I've got it.
Out of the stickers.
I've got a soapbox Sunday.
Actually, good one.
I think wrote a,
or read an article earlier this week from Kevin Price about Tom Whitney. Oh, man.
Cornfairy Tor player. Actually finished, he finished T7 this week. Really? Yeah. Actually, and I think the article was last week because it was in Omaha. Right.
And so just a quick backstory. Tom went to the Air Force Academy. His brother did also.
His brother was an Air Force Intelligence Officer
committed suicide, I think last year.
And basically, you know, Tom's basically just trying to get
awareness out for this 22 kill charity.
That this statistic, you know, every time I hear it,
I've heard it many times for the last couple of years,
but 22 veterans commit suicide every day, which is nuts. So, yeah, so he finished T7 this week,
really good to see that. And yeah, check out 22 kill. I know he did a birdie thing. I was
gonna donate to it this week. So, yeah, just good cause. And Kevin Price wrote a great article about it.
I will retweet that again.
Great stuff.
Great.
Yeah, I had that on my list.
I forgot to circle back.
Well, the Verstappen.
What a wrap it up.
That was a complete triumph.
God.
You guys are trying to lead though.
Racing point is stacking up point.
You're bearing the lead.
They're going to get taken away.
They're losing points him taking away his
losing point. Yeah, Randy called it in Saturday's show that we're snapping qualify on the hard tires Yeah, and that was like I
What the hell is total wolf doing doing not qualify?
I don't know about college pants. He did
Yeah, uh, how wild was it to see just how much faster the Hamilton is in Bota's?
I mean, it was just
uh... that's the way
bonus at a good hit a good race but if he had a bad plan yeah
maybe that's what she was neither them have handled their tires well
i was gonna say it seemed like the tires like right after their pit
like on brand new tires they were they were already going to say they were talking
about the post games
trying to face too much down force.
Too much down cost down cost Gary Woodland out there driving
the car might literally be too good for him.
That's the only thing they can hold him back.
Their tire management has been shit.
It's the only thing that's made it interesting.
First happens is straight up sociopath.
Like if you're looking for a true killer in a sport,
there you go.
Oh, he was he was barking on the radio and they were like, you know, tell him to cool. Take it easy. He's like, no, there you go. Oh, he was barking on the radio
and they were like, you know, telling them to cool.
Take it easy.
He's like, no, fuck all that.
I'm not going to drive like a grandma.
It's my best chance to catch him.
And they finally sent him to push.
And he's like, so you're saying fully send it,
which was sick.
And then he's got the lead with three laps to go.
And he's clearly pulling away.
And he like radio's back in, like,
make sure you guys are hydrating and wash your hands back there. Like he's pulling away, and he radio's back in.
Make sure you guys are hydrating and wash your hands back there.
He's just taunting.
It was kind of the 200 miles an hour.
It was the who wants to be a millionaire cause.
It's the status one to call a say I'm gonna win the million dollars.
It was not a great race, but it was really fast.
The commentators were just all over every little strategic element.
It played out exactly how they kept saying it was going to. What's Indian guys name that sits in the stands he's fantastic awesome it's just incredible viewing experience that Sunday mornings watching for me the one that's an ego hulkenberg I think it one week it bears it bears
appreciating how good shot the clear was today he was great great. He had a great race. He made it.
He had a great run.
He is driving Rory as a macro is a disgrace.
Oh, massive disgrace.
But Char was brilliant today.
You know, Albon, God, like bizarre strategy.
Still cool.
I'm fine.
Which is great.
I felt like he needed to have,
he needed to kind of make a statement.
Cause yeah.
Gatsley got a last beer. Gatsley was started. He started to get his kitchen a little bit. I felt like he needed to have it. He needed to kind of make a statement because yeah, Gatsley got a last beer. Gatsley was started to get his kitchen a little bit. I believe that guy is okay here. You care and chat
Huck, chat Huck.
See the guy who sits in the stands. It could be. I don't know. I don't know any of the announcer's names
I kind of want to keep the poster. He's got his Martin Brondel. He's great. Yeah, I think and Crofty
Of course. I ran. Did you have anything to say about McLaren?
Listen, the Zach Brown bed.
You want me to, like, kill him for one race.
I believe they're still, they are ahead of racing point
in the season constructor standing.
So would you like to say anything about that?
That minus the fifth post.
I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
Signs was 13th today.
Listen to one, the great day. The battle was sure. I'm not sure. Signs was 13th today. Listen to one a great day.
Listen to one a great day.
Vettel was an absolute disgrace for Ferrari today.
It's gonna get ugly.
They set it on the broadcast.
It's gonna get ugly.
It's gonna get ugly.
Massey Divorce.
You know who had a sneaky good day, Alphatari, the lower tier Red Bull team.
Gasly Spinoff.
I wouldn't call him that lower tier.
They're right next to Racing Point and the standings, aren't they? No.
Can I throw one back at you?
And you too, DJ, would you guys like to say anything about Lando Norse who sits fifth
in the driver's standings ahead of Albon and Lance Troll?
It's head like two good laps.
I made it clear that I was coming around on Lando.
That's true.
I will.
I'll take that back.
Lando and Ricky Ardo next year will be a fun new outer roof.
Albon got fastest lap. A fastest land, oh and Ricky Ardo next year will be a fun new outer room for Album got fastest lap.
A fastest lap was no Lewis.
Yeah, Lewis is completely fucking down the stretch.
All right, let's thank God for verse that, and though he makes our guys and Haas, nobody
was retiring from the race.
And then I guess it's just a quick total wanker day today.
It's a real like.
And of course, gutted for Williams.
Oh, I mean, George, George, George, he made it to Q2.
I know, we were so hopeful just a tough day.
Was it Magnus and the just ran right into Williams at one point?
Magnus is a bad boy.
He is a bad boy.
No, Grochan's a bad boy.
Grochan's a bad boy.
No, Grochan's a bad boy.
He's out of control though.
I didn't even hear Grochan's singing.
I was like, Gunther's the bad boy,
and he runs a bad crew.
Yeah, he runs a bad crew.
He runs a bad dude.
Finish the lap behind.
Ricardo was.
He can't get out of that run out soon enough.
The dump truck, I believe you call it.
No, that's the pedals for everybody.
Sorry, sorry.
All right, this is a record.
We did it two hours.
We made it.
Oh my god.
We didn't get to any questions either.
Sorry, thank you for sending in questions.
They help inform the show even if we don't read them directly.
So thanks everybody for tuning.
It's been a hell of a week.
A lot of fun, a lot of tremendous interaction
on social media, live shows, pods, all that good stuff
is time to step, take a step back
from professional golf for all of us here in the league.
For the record, racing point, if not for the penalty, which is being appealed
by both them and everyone else,
they would be a head of,
they would be third ahead of Ferrari.
Ferrari stinks.
Ferrari stinks by your own logic.
So, if, because they're cheating, they're third,
if, yeah, because they got caught cheating,
they're third best cheaters.
They're not, first of all, everybody's cheating. They're not everybody.
First of all, everybody's cheating.
Second of all, like Farah is getting these big ass payments every year.
I feel like we can take this off.
I'm sorry.
I'm gonna go pack.
Can you get this right again?
Cheers.
You guys stink.
Feed the right club today.
That's better than most.
How about in?
That is better than most.
Better than most.
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