No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 345: Northern Trust & Women's British Open Recap

Episode Date: August 24, 2020

DJ runs away in Boston, Sophia Popov comes out of nowhere to win the Women's British Open, the annual "how do we fix the playoffs," DJ's career or Brooks' career, TPC Boston, Curtis Luck wins on the K...orn Ferry Tour, and everything else from the week in golf.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No-Lang-A-Podcast back in the Kill House after one of the longest trips we've ever been on out to the out to the West Coast. Sully here, DJ Pai is here. Hello.
Starting point is 00:00:40 All the footage backed up and in a safe place. It's redundant on at least two drives. We're still waiting for a new mega drive, but that's on order, so it will be thoroughly backed up and in a safe place. It's redundant on at least two drives. We're still waiting for a new mega drive, but that's on order, so it will be thoroughly backed up this week. So as long as both the Killhouse and my house doesn't burn down, we should be fine. We're going to just going to talk about our trip
Starting point is 00:00:53 for the next three hours, and then maybe mention DJ. Now, we'll do a separate podcast on our recent trip out to Oregon TC is here. Hello. Mostly watching Cornfairy Golf today, I imagine, which I'm sure we'll get deep on here. I didn't watch a single Minute I've why I track did via shot track are all week, but didn't didn't watch really anything of good of the PGA tour today You're monitoring the situation. Yeah, I watched a little bit Friday and Saturday. Obviously Scotty Shelf or chef 59
Starting point is 00:01:21 We'll get into that and someone who's with you Friday, you did not watch it. You did after. Big Randy is here to, I guess, to throw more dirt on DJ's grave. Good evening. DJ Dustin Johnson, of course. Yeah, let's save it. But yes, good evening. Good morning. Hello to everybody.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Before we get going here, have you guys ever played with a golfer that's on the T box aimed at the left trees because they're so afraid of putting it in the right trees? Yes. Or the opposite of that potentially? I'm gonna say Toronto is used to aim into the right trees, but now he's a lefty, so technically he does aim into the left trees.
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Starting point is 00:03:28 And it looks good too. It does. It's great colors. Maybe with these red accents on it. Still has flash face and all that. Usually we start PGA tour. This feels like a week we probably shouldn't but we are actually recording this. We are I think it's safe to assume that Dustin Johnson's going to win the 2020 Northern Trust. Precincts are reporting. We can't at no length up at this time can confirm Dustin Johnson has won the tournament. Broward County's not reporting it. That's sure. A lot of ballads still to be counted, but I feel really comfortable calling it with nine shot lead with two to play.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Dewey defeats Truman. Totally. Exactly. Randy's got his newspapers. Johnson's not pretty English. He's English. I was going to tweet out earlier that DJ's ringer score on the front nine this week is 26. That's pretty cool, but one of the nine's was actually 27, so it's actually really
Starting point is 00:04:14 not that impressive. He birdied every hole on the front this week except for number nine. I thought he had a chance to complete the TPC boss and birdie challenge in one week this week. And he is going to come up a little bit short, unfortunately, but one of the more dominant performances I can remember seeing in PGA tour, since I've been following the PGA tour. It's it's wild that as stupid as this sounds,
Starting point is 00:04:36 it's wild that he's only up by nine. Like it feels like it should even be more than that. Harris English absolutely flushing it as Randy's been saying for what? 10 weeks. He tried to warn. They tried Randy's been saying for what, 10 weeks now. He tried to warn us. He tried to warn us. Yeah, that's about right, two and a half months or so. He's, he's putting a lot of work up in Sea Island.
Starting point is 00:04:52 I had sources all over the ground up there. It's good to see he's continuing to flush the ball. It's turned into one of my favorite bits. Every single week, Harris English, I hear he's flushing it. This week he actually was. And you didn't pick him this week. No. But he's been flushin' it for a while now. Well, I think he's been flushin' it for like 20 years, but you know, it's all relative, I guess. Uh, I should have got Justin Ray on this. The gap between first and second on these strokes
Starting point is 00:05:19 gained T-Degrean this week, I've never seen anything like it. DJ was up by like eight shots over Kansmith, Tita Green, who was second. He is approaching 12 strokes gained, approaching the green. Charlie Hoffman is second at 6.7. You do not see gaps like that on a week to week, but you don't see people win by 10 also. But hold on. So I thought you said this is a week that we're not going to start with PJ tour. I said it doesn't feel like we should. But we maybe should. I don't know. That's kind of different. It kind of get it out of the way and then move on to it. There's some bigger questions to ask,
Starting point is 00:05:50 I think, around the tour. Who's going to make it to Chicago? Is that what you mean? That's the big one, which... Precincts are reporting that Max Homa after being on the cut line and apparently at home stressing about it, as CBS has said, that he will be advancing on to the BMW
Starting point is 00:06:08 Couple questions for you guys Martin Sean Martin posed a good question on Twitter And I saw the votes were 50 50 from the from the Twitter folks whose resume would you rather have broke sir DJ? Well, let's can we define a few things? Are you talking resume? Are we talking just like bank account like everything that comes with the resume? DJ is also a lot older. I would say bank account is included. I mean Dustin has literally all the money. Right. This is what is 23rd win? 22nd. 22nd and a major. I I mean I would take Dustin arguably the most consistent player to ever live But but to push back I think the question asked very explicitly the resume Which it's I think that includes money though. It's basically I think so because because why else would you want to win 22 PJ tour events And why would you pick that resume? It's like saying would you rather have Jack Nicholas's resume or?
Starting point is 00:07:04 Or Dustin Johnson or Dustin Johnson who has all the money? It's a good point. I wasn't prepared for that We hadn't thought about that in our our pre-tournament notes here. I'm sure smart and means resume like like as in Don't count the money just wins. I think it's like on paper. Who's career? I think he wants to know like if you if people are talking about you in a bar, which one do you want them to pick? That's basically all this question, kind of. Basically, how many PGA Tour wins is a major worth?
Starting point is 00:07:33 How many would you try? Did GTI that one time? Yeah, I think he said three. I thought it was like three and a half or something. Three or four PGA Tour wins for a major. I think it was the fair choice. Yeah, I remember two. Does it one?
Starting point is 00:07:43 It gets us to seven majors. All sorts of WGC's. He's one of all sorts of playoff events. Elevated status. Elevated status events, out the ass. Does that do anything for you, John? Sorry, it wasn't Reno, it was the turning stone. Nevermind, disregard. The old 84-lumber classic.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Does that do anything for you? The fact that it's WGCs and we're... No, it actually, I look less favorably upon those than I do in a normal PGA tourGA tors. Good limited feel. Yeah. And they're just, like, I feel like everybody's just kind of, you've got 20 guys that are highly engaged at the top. You got about another 20 or 30 who are on cruise control wanting to shut it down. Maybe this year's a little bit different. And then you have 50 guys at the bottom, from that 75 to 125, they get into Boston and are looking, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:30 or pedal to the metal trying to get into the next couple weeks. But I don't know, I mean, I would say, I would take Dustin, or Brooks. That's why. Because I think Brooks's knee, you know, it seems like, No, no, we're talking, we're talking resme here. Now we're talking knees or anything like that. I just think, you know, DJ has a major at Oakmont. Okay. And it was that he played the greatest whole ever
Starting point is 00:08:57 played, which we've talked about. Yeah. He showed fly on his resume. He showed flashes of being the greatest player of all time, just for short one whole, two whole stretches this week. Which I think to the point, makes the one major damning. Let me ask you this, whose career would you rather have? DJ or Rory? Rory. Okay. So, PGA victories wise, DJ has what?
Starting point is 00:09:19 Five, four more? Something like Rory is 14. Yeah. So it's easy Rory. Rory's got four majors, Brooks. So, Rory is 14. Yeah. So it's easy Rory. Rory's got four majors, Brooks. So, Rory plays more around the world though. You're saying those three majors are worth 11 wins? I would say so.
Starting point is 00:09:35 I think I'm taking Brooks there. Four majors is a completely different category. I'm just taking Brooks. Can you name the guys of one of the most major championships? You can. Can you name the guys of one of the most major championships? You can. Yes. Can you name the guys of one of the most PGA Tour events? You probably can't.
Starting point is 00:09:47 You probably think you can. Shout out to Billy Casper. Okay. No one ever talks about which we've covered. That's fine. Shout out to Sam Sneeden, his cherry man or dash record. But like, you couldn't tell me how many PGA Tour wins Tom Watson has. 39.
Starting point is 00:10:01 I'm gonna get, that's a guess. God help us, not right. That's gonna look so dumb. But like, you know, that's the point. Yeah, of course, I get it. But also, I think, yeah, I don't know. I see where you guys are going for it. I think it's kind of a coin flip as boring of an answer as it is. We broke this only one over four year stretch.
Starting point is 00:10:18 All of his wins come from... Tom Watson is 39 fucking. I told you guys. Yeah, I would tell you Dustin only. I would tell you, Dustin only. Point prove it exactly. DJ memorizes the Hall of Fame stuff. Yeah, like all the, how many does VJ have?
Starting point is 00:10:32 It's like 24. 34th book. Okay, there's the point. All right. First of all, I wasn't aware that Brooks had won four majors. I thought he'd only won three. I think, this is the first time here he's there. Those PGA's like, I didn't enjoy either of them. So I count those as. I think. This is the first time here. I was PGA, I didn't enjoy either of them.
Starting point is 00:10:46 So I count those as a half hour. Belary was fun. I mean the course sucked, but Tiger made it run. Belary was super fun. That was a really fun agent. Yeah. That was awful. Brooks, he won his first event, waste management, Phoenix open.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Actually, you know, he did win the Turkish Airlines open. So people forget. November 2014 and his last victory was the FedEx St. Jude Dmitational July 28th, 2019. So, really a five-year stretch. DJ has been winning tournaments since he was like 12. So, he should have been racking up a lot more majors. I mean, I would be charged if Kebka
Starting point is 00:11:19 nabs another major though. Totally. Oh, yeah. Many people also forget that Kebco won the Dunlop Phoenix back to back. The one that comes with the... When it comes with the lifetime supply of beef, right? I think so.
Starting point is 00:11:32 So that's a big, like, I do think, to your point earlier, Brooks has played around the world a little bit as well. I know you're big. That's a big sticking point for me. Would you, can I ask a dumb question? Would you listen to an argument that one US Open is worth two PGA's? Yes, that's essentially what I'm getting at.
Starting point is 00:11:50 I'm trying to bolster your case. Well, I still have two more, yeah, of course, but we're tightening it up. To back US Open's two is, I don't think we should overlook that. Of course. And then runner up in the next year. So how about the stat earlier from Twitter? That in 200, so this was DJ's 22nd win
Starting point is 00:12:08 in 271 career starts. Tiger had 71 during, and he won 71 is first 250. So DJ has two more wins in 271 career starts than Phil Mikkelson did, which is interesting. How many, the question I saw a question following, how many had to play against Tiger? How many, did Phil not have to. How many majors did Phil have within his first 271 career starts? The answer is zero. Phil had not yet won a major at this
Starting point is 00:12:36 point in his career. And of course, it was NAB 5. So it has not said a done deal for DJ to win a lot more majors, but gosh, it just feels like he should have a lot more. I mean, how about the fact that DJ shot in the 80s a few weeks ago? I think he was right. Like that's nuts. Yeah. I think that was clear with this evidence that we have now
Starting point is 00:12:56 that had to be very clearly related to injury. Seems like he figured it out. Yeah. I think he seems like he's doing okay. Another possibly dumb question. Let's say both players retired right now, or theoretically Dustin after he finishes the next two and a half holes, and never played again. Who do you think would be more, quote unquote, famous going forward?
Starting point is 00:13:18 Because I almost think you can make an argument that it's Dustin. I don't really know why. Yeah, for sure. Because he can dunk a basketball. Which people also forget. You know, the hard egg. I don't really know why. Yeah, for sure. Because he ain't done a basketball. Which people also forget. You know, the heartache, the heartache, honestly. Where you're kind of like, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:30 when you get down to resume, it's almost kind of intangible. It's almost kind of like who, you know, who gets remembered more or who is on top of that, like mental list. Isn't that kind of sort of maybe kind of the same thing? It's the Fred Couples of, like, it's the Fred Couples effect, right? Like, everybody knows Fred Couples. Ah, you know, great guy. Got such a good golfer and then you're like,
Starting point is 00:13:53 oh wait, wait, you're just one major. But that's kind of my point. Do you think Fred Couples is lying awake, being like, God, I just wish I had three more than I would really, that would make all the difference? No, if we're going by like you know if is DJ Satisfied with what he's done in the game of golf or has he done enough like yeah, absolutely right? But I still think like four to one majors wise. I don't care if everybody forgets about Kevka. He's still you know, yeah one of the Top 20 guys I guys ever to play in terms of most majors.
Starting point is 00:14:27 I just think that that carries weight. Bringing it back to this week, are we mad about the 60 on Friday, after being 11 under through 11? Hell yeah. We didn't get to watch, we were commuting that day, but apparently laid up on 18 as well. It gots questionable line, the rough, et cetera,
Starting point is 00:14:44 but yeah, that seems to have been an opportunity that got slipped away. Not a good hole you want to go at if you can't, you know, if you can't get it there. The hole that of course caused Luke Donald to call Gil Hans a cock. Exactly. Not a lot of people,
Starting point is 00:14:56 not people don't talk about enough. It's supposed to be a DM that, where the public, the Gil Hans is a cock for redesign. What is it about TBC Boston that players could not handle? It was the 18th hole at that point, right? Yeah, yeah, still the People could not handle TBC Boston and here we are guys are threatened and to shoot 30 under here Well, I just wanted to congratulate the tour and the players and everyone on really cooler heads prevailing and taking out that centerline bunker on 12 because that It's very clear that TBC Boston was wildly unfair to the players and I thought that was cool that we could see a proper competition this week
Starting point is 00:15:36 What a fucking joke DJ one in Saudi Arabia at Royal Greens That's Royal Greens. Thank you for that, John. That's probably half a British. That's my favorite feature of the pod is, John, look at up stuff on Wikipedia that ejected it two minutes later, five minutes later. Well, I do want to talk to some TPC Boston. Before we do, get going on that. I also want to talk about our friends at Woop.
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Starting point is 00:16:19 I thought I was gonna die. The whoop, just splurred. The whoop hates alcohol. Yeah, it doesn't like alcohol as much as. Yeah, it does more than just induced anxiety. But if I could spin this back in a bit of a way, I think what it does, at least for me, is provide accountability and guidelines, right? Where you're not just waking up in the morning
Starting point is 00:16:39 feeling like, yeah, I feel about a six out of 10. It's like, no, here's exactly where you're at. Here's how well you slept. Here's how much strain you're willing to take on today or ready to take on today. And it was nice to get back from vacation work. What I want to call it. But yeah, I was good to get back
Starting point is 00:16:58 and kind of see exactly where the body was. How quickly it bounces back. How much sleep you need. All that stuff was awesome. And now I feel great today. Big night last night. Which, oh my God, me and TC you need, all that stuff was awesome. And now I feel great today. Big night last night. Which, oh my god, me and TC, TC
Starting point is 00:17:08 a complete battle for the ages. I got 11 hours and 26 minutes of sleep last night and Tron, of course, somehow. Somehow 11 hours and 27 minutes. Which is 78% recovery today. Which after eight straight days under like 20%. I needed that. Turns out when you don't sleep and you drink a lot,
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Starting point is 00:18:03 Jason Wilkie asks, shouldn't the playoffs be harder? I mean, yeah. That's such an extremely fair question. I'm trying to do the calculations in my head, at least two of the 59s have been in the playoffs. Right? B-M-W. Fierrick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:21 That was 59. Scottie Schaeffler. So that's kind of a damning stat, maybe. But the Fierrick one was a little different, because Yeah, that's right. And Scotty Sheffler. So that's kind of a damning stat maybe. But the Fieric one was a little different because I think he beat the whole field by like seven. That's true. Again, the field might have stung this week.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Well, why don't you expand it? I don't, expound on that. I think that was before we, before we came up. Well, you were coming up with the stat. You had the stat that DJ. Well, uh, uh, Dustin Strokes gained on the field, a 23.05. I'd be, but the field average, uh average 1.6 strokes under par this week. I wouldn't, it was set up easy and DJ just took it the mega deep.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Yes. I just don't understand how it's so, it's been so dry and hot in New England all summer, especially the last like six weeks. And the greens were soft as shit. Live under par, which rumor has it that the PGA Tour has contacted the fan council to survey a little bit to ask if live under par should go away.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Really? Yeah, seen some screenshots from that that have been sent our way that it might be, live under par might be dead. It might be dead under par. It was a tough time for live under par in the time of pandemic when everyone pointed out,
Starting point is 00:19:28 right when it rolled out that it actually just means being sick. It was a tough one to constantly be put out there. So, I'm guessing that's at least part of the reason why they did away with that. But, what were we talking about? Oh, just the playoffs need to be harder course, which I don't necessarily agree, like the playoffs need to be harder.
Starting point is 00:19:44 I think it just in general golf courses, that's not set up to create entertainment. Yeah, I mean, I don't want to get too conceptual, but I think you got to almost kind of start with like, what are the playoffs? Like, what's the point? I'm like, talk to you guys about that as well. You know, and it's like, what,
Starting point is 00:19:58 have you got to blame your mind with that one? Whoa. But you know what I'm saying? It's like, are these supposed to be pseudo major championships, or are they supposed to be shoot out excitement? Let's get all the big names together because I'm guessing it's the latter.
Starting point is 00:20:10 It's neither of those. I'll tell you exactly what it is. It's a money grab. And out get grab bonk. It is a bonus payout system that they play off for and they need to do better at like steering into like just the enormous sums of cash that they're playing for. That was like, all right, today when we're talking to Max
Starting point is 00:20:28 about him, you know, like, hey man, like we think we're gonna make it, like I kind of was asking myself, like, why do I give a shit if you make it or not? Like you made a couple million dollars already this year and all this is gonna do, unless you win Atlanta, all this is gonna do is basically a couple extra $100,000 in bonus.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Which is nice for a lot of people. It's super nice and I'm happy for Max and all that, but like at the end of the day, like, why should I care? It would be a little different if the playoffs started with the top 1,000 in the world. And some guys could like actually make a run and you know, get some status or whatever, but yeah, just the kind of everybody's going, there's nothing really at stake except for more money. And really like shadow money that you're never even going
Starting point is 00:21:11 to hear about or think about or whatever. We talk about this all the time, but it's when the guy who finishes 35th makes whatever 200 grand or some crazy number, it's like, oh, cool. Yeah, and I think if they're going to keep the current format, just take away the name playoffs. Call the finals.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Playoffs. It's not a playoff. So like, why are we? Call the finals. It's the corn fairy tour finals. Like, why is it the pull? I don't know. I think about how much different the corn fairy tour finals
Starting point is 00:21:38 feels because there's something at stake other than money. Right. But I'm saying, like, I don't know what the answer is. I don't know how you inject anything else, to be at stake, but it's, it was, yeah, it's tough to get up for this one, especially after the women's British and the Corn Fairy Tour event this week,
Starting point is 00:21:57 kind of like a sick Dustin. Crazy man, great stuff. So Nick DeCello asks, how would you fix the playoffs Randy? Just shoot him to the moon. Why do we have to have playoffs that that's so dumb Other well, I mean it's better than nothing I think it's better than like at Pre 2007 like the torches like went away after the last major Which careful with that take the faces are out here again what? God forbid you have an offseason. Yeah. No, like what?
Starting point is 00:22:28 They're not playoffs. So what? Like something's don't need playoffs, right? Like NASCAR trying to do playoffs and PGA Tour Golf trying to do playoffs. Like, well, it comes back to the tour not owning. That's what I was going to say. That's what I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:22:44 I feel like this is extremely personal opinion here, but I feel like the way golf has trended the last few years is the same as the way all sports have trended where the big events have gotten a lot bigger and the medium events just are a lot harder to place. Like there's a lot less context. And I have nothing to back this up, but I feel like on whether it's a stupidest measurement
Starting point is 00:23:08 of like on Twitter or I don't really know what the ratings totally feel like, but that's a whole other can of worms. But I feel like the US open when it's on, like it's a bigger deal than it was five years ago. When the PGA is on, I feel like it was a bigger deal than it was five years ago. Like I don't feel that with the playoffs,
Starting point is 00:23:23 I don't feel that with the windum, I don't feel that with like any of these other PGA tour owned events. And that seems like a really big problem. I feel I will say I feel it with the players. I feel like they have done a good job of elevating the players to use a douchey marketing term. But I feel like that's a one that's gotten bigger and more grand and more important feeling.
Starting point is 00:23:42 But yeah, the playoffs just it just seems like such a transparent way to own something bigger and kind of grow it into this like big grand thing and it's just such a, it's an ad. Like it's just such a, like, I'm gonna go a complete parent thing. Lead opposite direction of this though, with everything considering all the talks around the PGL, right? This is a devised system, right, to take this huge pool of money and funnel it to the top players, right?
Starting point is 00:24:09 That's what it is. So it exists to basically reward the top players in the game for a long season. And it's not for fans. I definitely don't think which is where as a fan. I'm like, yeah, cool. I don't care. Like what else is on or what else am I doing on my Sunday? Just like give that money out anyway. Like I don't think that's the only way that can do it legally probably. I totally get that. And I'm full support of if you have all the money, you might as well devise the coolest way to possibly divvy it out. And when we're being realistic like this probably is that. What else are you going to do? It's not going to be a big
Starting point is 00:24:42 close to the pin contest. Going back last week, they did the Wyndham rewards bonus or whatever. Justin Thomas won that with that he didn't play in the event. Colin Morecawa didn't play in the event. Bryson came in fourth. He didn't play in the event. Daniel Burke came in seventh. He didn't play in the event. Like half the guys in the top center, they didn't bother to play JT pocketed another $2 million. They fleeced Wyndham with that one. It was Wyndham's move that I try to get their feel better
Starting point is 00:25:08 and that has not worked out that way. But yeah, it'd literally be too much money to distribute. Could very well be. And then you've got guys like Roger Sloan just hoovering all this stuff up. That's my favorite verb. It's just like, yeah. And then, yeah, don't even get me started.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Like, you got the Corn Ferry Finals, you know, they're gonna have those again next year. And the top 75, or the top 75 from the Corn Ferry Play, and then the bottom, the 125 through the, or sorry, the 126 through the 200 from the PGA Tour Play, they should not let the 126 through the 200 on the PGA Tour play, they should not let the 126 through the 200 on the PGA tour play in the Cornferry finals next year. They had two years, shitter get off the pot,
Starting point is 00:25:51 you're playing on the Cornferry tour full time in 2022. Only thing I'd say that is, I don't believe anybody was getting you started. That's a sick take though, I haven't thought about that. Or, you know, if you finished 126 to 150, you can do it, you can get back, you can earn your way back on, you're still gonna have some status anyway.
Starting point is 00:26:09 If you finish outside the top 150, get the hell out of us. I love that take. Way on board with that. Are there any other ideas? Fix the playoffs? Sure. You can do a lot of things. I am pro handicapping the torch championship.
Starting point is 00:26:24 I agree. No, I think that's a great change. That was a good change. That is very much a half-ass commissioner for a day change that I cannot believe. What if they handicapped all three of them? That's where I'm getting that. I'm glad you said that. I'm regular season. What could they do? I mean, match play, I think we say all the time, like at least in Atlanta, you know you're probably probably gonna have your pretty close to your 30 best guys. At least I would say your top, your 25 best guys, right? There's always some, I think that's some people
Starting point is 00:26:50 who rock it up and get a bunch of points in the playoffs and get into Atlanta. But I feel like the downside of match plays, everybody says it's bad for TV and what if you get two duds and blah, blah, blah, but I feel like the tour championship, you'd be pretty, I would like to watch you guys playin' off for $15 million.
Starting point is 00:27:06 I don't know. Seems cool. The match. I think that doesn't answer the first couple playoff events, though, that totally. You're very right about that. Well, I think one way to do it is go play cooler courses. Straight up.
Starting point is 00:27:18 What do you feel? It should be pretty cool. Let me feel this is gonna be good. Yes. And that's what I was kinda getting at with the what is the playoff situation is, you know, if you're trying to make them really, really, really good tests, i.e. great golf courses and stuff, I think that's a different avenue than kind of what we're,
Starting point is 00:27:35 what we kind of have been doing. And I know this is gonna sound like an ad, but I will give BMW credit, you know, I don't know how much selection power they have in that. But I mean, going to places like Cherry Hills and Crooked Stick and now this year, Olympia Fields and... Ronnamink. Ronnamink, like they have... Yeah, Caves Valley next year.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Yeah, Caves Valley next year. Like I do feel like they've at least moved it around. Whereas TPC Boston doesn't really... Oh, but Liberty National next year. Who of me in Liberty National was watching? One of the great power moves of our time was a Glen Oaks, the mega, mega, mega private one in New York that was like, well, hosted for one year just so everybody can see it and we're never hosting it again.
Starting point is 00:28:14 That was interesting. But yeah, that is kind of like, man, I don't really know what it's all about. Right. It's a flawed premise, right? We're trying to answer a question that none of us are even caring to ask. I don't think any of us are dying for this playoff system. Like he said, it's strictly a system to give out money. I just think they got a steer into that.
Starting point is 00:28:36 There's got to be a barrel full of 15. You can bring a brings truck in, you can have a sponsor, I don't care. But the cash needs to sit on the 18th green. I'm just telling somebody about this in the day. They should have FedEx actually don't like parachute the money out of a FedEx freighter jet. I'm way in. Be sick, right? Like the air drops, like the army makes it stuff.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Yeah, but it would just be like, you know, pallets full of cash. Yes. I think they are in a weird spot this year also, as that's a fantastic idea. I want to give that idea. It's too weird. I know you can know what you're going to say. Well, I think they're in a tough spot this year also. That's a fantastic idea. I want to give that idea. I know you're going to say. Well, I think they're in a tough spot with the charity stuff, right?
Starting point is 00:29:08 Where there was a little bit floating around, and we've set it on the podcast a little bit too, where a lot of these charities are not getting the amount of money that they have gotten in the past. And the tour has done a lot of good stuff to try to make up some of that with the Wednesday, skins games, and that kind of stuff. I think they've put on a pretty big effort
Starting point is 00:29:27 the last few weeks month to do that. But it's gonna be some tough optics the next few weeks when it's like 15 million, 10 million, 8 million, you get fucking five million. Here you go. That's gonna be a really weird line for them to walk over the next few weeks when really like we've've said a million times, the playoffs are basically just that, just this big like cash redistribution system.
Starting point is 00:29:50 It's amazing that we have this season long and all this projected stuff and like even as of today, no one that was watching could understand like what any, any stroke man or what anything happened, like they need something for the playoffs and just be like here, here's the simple cut for how you make the final 70. Which is to your point, maybe it should be handicap. You know, handicap, and just do it all by strokes. Sure. Going back to TBC Boston, I think we asked the question,
Starting point is 00:30:13 like, why does it get shit on all the time? I think part of it is because there's so much good golf in New England and it just feels like such a waste to be playing there, but it's right in downtown Boston. It's all the aerials show you. Exactly. It feels like a band-aided together Arnold Palmer course that then hence,
Starting point is 00:30:31 tried to touch up and breathe new life. It feels a little bit, doesn't really have an identity. I've played it on there a couple of times. Really, really nice walk in the woods. I was gonna say it. I feel like I've been there three or four times and like I actually, every time I'm there,
Starting point is 00:30:44 I'm like, I would really like to play here. I don't know that that means like Dustin Johnson should be playing there. But it just doesn't have a whole lot of soul. And then I think also it's like, yeah, it just doesn't, you know, the fact that they went from four playoff events to three playoff events and like nobody said a thing about it.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Like, I just remember that today. I'm like, oh yeah, they're really cutting a lot of people. Yeah, or like, you know, if they wanted to basically move this thing around the Eastern Seaboard, you're like, all right, like we're gonna have one playoff event in the Northeast, we're gonna have one in the Midwest, and we're gonna have one out West somewhere.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Like we're gonna have one in Seattle, Portland, San Francisco in prime time. Like that's a way to breathe new life into it too. And yeah, I mean, BMW did that one time with Cherry Hills in Denver here. And I don't know if it was, I mean, I do know it was a tough commute, like to go from Boston to Denver to wherever Chicago or... I got another existential question.
Starting point is 00:31:33 This is bothering me. If we're going to call it playoffs, why do 125 guys get into the playoffs? Exactly. Fantastic point. Make the playoffs actually special, right? So, I don't know what the exact number would be, whether it's 24, 32. Assuming there are three events,
Starting point is 00:31:50 I would do a stroke play, 32 man tournament, week one, the winner gets a buy into a match play semi-final. The second week I would take the remaining guys, the guy won the previous week and pledges for the money. Whoever wins gets a buy into the semi-final and then take the other like 30 guys or 22 guys, the guy won the previous week and pledges for the money, whoever wins, gets a buy into the semi-finals, and then take the other like 30 guys
Starting point is 00:32:08 or 22 guys match play them into the semi-final with the two winners and have a true like playoffs, right? Because the one of the inherent flaws of the playoffs is, if 125 guys get in, like who cares during the regular season? But if it's the top 24 guys, well then all of a sudden, it's like, oh shit, like, you know, you actually have to like really play well to get into the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:32:30 125 guys, then they would say, well, you know, there's like 200 guys with cards and it's like, yeah, that's the problem. They're just freaking guys with cards. Yeah, it seems like a bunch of like, yeah, but yeah, but like, yo, like that stuff is not our problem. Like, you guys gotta fix that shit. Well, why not?
Starting point is 00:32:47 I think that's a fantastic idea. And why not even kind of borrow from the most interesting playoff quote unquote in sports, which is probably March Madness, right? And make it a 64 man match play bracket that's just broken up over different tournaments. You know, like the way that they do the match play or the March Madness regionals where it's like,
Starting point is 00:33:06 all right, you got two games here and then we're moving to two games here and you just kind of slowly whittle it down. Like how cool would it be? Jason Co-Crack, we're sending you just spoke aim. Yeah. Well, no, that's a good idea because March Madness encompasses,
Starting point is 00:33:17 you have to win six games, right? So you can make those first couple rounds to avoid potentially like the 64 over one seat upside. You can make them best of three or best of five and play it over four days. Or start one week and... No, it's one week and... Or start one week and... Or start one week and one up or two up or something like that.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Yeah, not even. So you play like two rounds one week, two rounds the next week and then you have the final four. And there's no reason if you want to make it four days for TV, like there's no reason everybody has to play every day, break it up and you know, JT, you're plan Thursday, Rory, your plan your match Friday, you know, you'd have like good TV every day. But, but yeah, the key things for me is like, you got to have like a head to head. And I think, I think, I think, if you've got to be less people, if you did have head to
Starting point is 00:33:56 head, how cool would it be even to have like, oh shit, next week is JT versus Rory. We've got like five days to like get up for it. That's what I've always said. At the end of the tour championship, the top like eight or 16 should go on to the playoffs. Totally. The whole thing is whittled down. You can call it the finals and then it's the playoffs and it's match play and it's prime time.
Starting point is 00:34:16 The week right after the tour championship and that is then you get to keep it. So like the answer to all that is unfortunately like the fanlifts out in this regard, but like they need to sell the sponsorship to Northern Trust, to BMW, to all that. And those companies want a ton of the big names there, and years where you can have fans, and they can host host fatality and all that stuff. But if you have, you know, if they can't, you can't promise that the, I think those companies pay a premium for the playoff events. And big premium.
Starting point is 00:34:43 If you can't, you know, promise that you're gonna have a big bulk of them, they're probably not gonna pay that. Is the answer to a lot of that question, I think, but. Well, like going back to the whole match play, you know, criticism of like, well, yeah, you're gonna be left with, you know, blow out or match up. Like, what was this week? Action pack.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Do you see Daniel Burgers in third place right now? Well, and I don't get that either because the USAM, for example, had you told me at the beginning of the week, it's Star Fachi against who Osborne? Yeah, Osborne, like at the... Osborne's crazy. Like, dude, those two guys are gonna play a match. Like, do you care?
Starting point is 00:35:17 Like, no, I don't care. But when it becomes the USAM final, all of a sudden, it's riveting. When you run into a dejected, all the Osborne, the Fand and trills club house afterwards and he probably realized they didn't have the the Asian Caesar Which probably made it to even worse. We're gonna get into that on thing on our separate podcast This questions for Tron. This is from Douglas McFarlane is Scotty Shuffle the oldest 24-year-old on earth. Yes We've been over this are you going to
Starting point is 00:35:44 Apolog apologize for him just leaving his caddy stranded in the fairway there with it? I think Scottie's out of gas too. No, it was a cramp. He said he heard something pop. Which, come on. I mean, he just left him there.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Kind of went on putting while he were attending to him. You're in New England too. It's not like it's welteringly hot. It's pretty hot. Did his caddy Dutch boy is sock like our show? Shilling lives down in those parts. Should Scotty have withdrawn to tend to him. Very interesting.
Starting point is 00:36:15 No, well, I think you should, do you have an apology, son? I don't. I ask for you if you have. We, Tron and I conferred and we would like, I'm representing Tron legally now. And we would like a 59 minute apology for all the things you've bad,
Starting point is 00:36:30 you've said about Scottie Schuffler about his 59 this week. Only if Tron will apologize for him being the only guy in the top 25. Oh, and Danny Lee that's over par today. Not over yet, we got two and a half of that. He could easily birdie 18. In fact, he's got four feet to do so. In fact, yeah. So he will be even and that will bump him up into a T4 situation. How
Starting point is 00:36:54 long to do this week. Your boy. Long toe actually is ahead of Scotty on the modulus this week or this year. So actually, Scotty might pass him finally on this week, which, what's the birdie on 18? Could be, which I think he was your first round pick. I think Lotto's like my fourth round pick. So it's cool to see that value kind of pin out. Scottie, Scottie's exhausted, man. All he's done is just, you know, basically top 30 every event this year, he's coming off of two wins on the corn fairy
Starting point is 00:37:20 last year, corn fairy player the year last year. He might get, he might need to get a, a new whoop if he's still exhausted from his two wins on the corn fairy tour last year. He hasn't had any time to just relax, man. He's old. He's like Benjamin Button. Well, all right, speaking of players being out of gas,
Starting point is 00:37:39 did you guys see the McRibs quotes this week? I heard that. I did not. For what you take us to. This was from Roderick Muckelroy. He started off always a good one. This is gonna sound really bad. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Glistening. I'm excited I would myself. But I feel like the last few weeks, I've just been going through the motions. I wanna get an intensity and some sort of fire, but I just haven't been able to. And look, that's partly due to the atmosphere and partly due with how I'm playing.
Starting point is 00:38:04 I'm not inspiring myself. And I'm trying to get inspiration from outside sources to get something going. Does not feel like playoff fever, catch it. I've been trying to give him some outside inspiration. And I think he's been doing that for like a year, but you know, even that, maybe he's, you're giving him too much to chase. He can't catch it. Appreciate the honesty.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Of course. Of course. Of course. Yeah, I appreciate it. It's an interesting quote. It surprises me Appreciate the honesty. Of course. Of course. Appreciate the honesty. It's an interesting quote. It surprises me with the PGA being last weekend. Totally. I would have to think that he's excluding the PGA from that. He didn't, but I mean, he didn't explicitly say that,
Starting point is 00:38:38 but I had that assumption as well. I don't know, there was a great piece, Dylan De Chere row, to about him and Tiger playing together. And that was just kind of a weird, had to be kind of a weird vibe on site this week. Of Tiger and Rory playing together with no fans around, there was a great picture going around of those two just sitting at the picnic table, eating a cheeseburger and having die coax right by the media center, which never could have happened if there were fans on site. So I think there were a lot of people who said, you know, tigers probably gonna thrive
Starting point is 00:39:09 when he comes back into playing with no fans. I'm sure even we said that, but hearing Tiger talking about it, and I think Rory's probably maybe intimating this a little bit too, I think those guys are so used to having fans around, and they probably feed on it so much that it's probably been just like a little
Starting point is 00:39:26 Like he was referring to Graham a Graham McDowell quote where he's saying he was just like playing zombie golf Like it just doesn't so feel like it matters It doesn't feel like it's the same as it has been I took his quote a different way I took it like I'm just out of sorts and I'm tired. I think it's probably a little bit of both but he's only played like 10 times This whole year cat or no, Rory. Yeah bit of both, but he's only played like 10 times this whole year. Kat or? No, Rory. Yeah. I mean, he played, he's played, uh, he played farmers, he played Riviera, played the group
Starting point is 00:39:51 of Salinas Championship, played API, uh, colonial, uh, Harbourtown travelers. Like, he's played a lot. I mean, he played, uh, he played, Harbor Town, Travelers, back to back to back. And he took a couple weeks off, then he played Memorial, then he took one week off, then he played FedEx, and then he played PGA. So like, I, you know, I just feel super monotonous and like all the testing.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I don't know, it's a, it Tigers, Tigers quotes were more along the lines of like, I'm now kind of a little bit out of a disadvantage here because like I've done this in front of people for so long and now some of these guys get to like these big moments in a golf tournament. Don't have a bunch of fans around to put pressure on them and have people moving around and a whole different thing you need to balance. And yeah, it just has kind of neutralized things a little bit. Roy was even talking about, he kind of goes on later in the story, he says maybe that's the strategy, he's talking about basically like making bets with his caddy during practice
Starting point is 00:40:53 rounds. He said maybe that's the strategy, I do that in practice rounds sometimes with Harry. We make a lot of bets where I try to shoot scores and try to win dinner, whatever it is, maybe I need to do that. And it's like, you know, you're playing for $15 million. And like that's not even like getting these guys going. And of course, that's just a focus group of one. It's just Rory talking.
Starting point is 00:41:12 I'm sure there's other guys that are jacked up, but it's, I don't know, very, I don't want to say telling, don't want to say like read too much into it. I just think it's super interesting. And of course, appreciate Rory's honesty, as always, about how he's feeling. Because he kind of doesn't look to himself either. Does he have to play this week? Sponsors and whatnot?
Starting point is 00:41:31 I don't know. That'd be my... Like, why do you want to do that? Well, he's one of this course twice, I think. Yeah. So that's part of it, but yeah, I think after this week he's 12th in the FedEx Cup, so it's not like he's... Doesn't have to do that. He's got an outside track to Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:41:46 I mean, I'm guessing based on a lot of, you know, everything we were saying about the playoffs, like, I'm guessing there's a strong, strong recommendation, like, please play. It'd be really great for us if you would please play. And I'm sure there's, you know, four or five guys that kind of get those, those handshakes from the commissioner. But what you know how sponsor deals are really working out this year though too, but I mean, with adjusted, not biggest-made tournaments, but these guys have big-ass numbers.
Starting point is 00:42:16 They need to reach in terms of tournaments played to hit very sizable numbers with their biggest sponsors, right? This is truly a gas. Taylor made his not sponsoring him to play 12 events. Like it's, I don't know what his number is, but I'm sure it's number. And that was part of what the driving relief thing
Starting point is 00:42:32 was all about. I'm sure it was, yeah. Seminole. Yeah, I mean, he's basically the deputy commissioner. So he's got a set a good example for the other guys too, right? So yeah. It's finding ourselves in a more money, more problem situation here. Here's a question for you guys.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Anybody inside like the top, we'll say the top 30 right now, that is who's the worst case scenario for the suits in Pontavidra? Like, oh God, that guy might wouldn't like that. That's not good. The tour championship, you mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Is it all in 2020, Jason Cokrek? He is all in. People forget that. I feel like they couldn't even be mad about that because he told him what a year ago. He does, I mean, he has he has pocket Aces and pocket queens and pocket kings. If nobody knows what we're talking about, go to look up Jason Kochrack's Instagram where he's just hoarding, who bring all the cards in the deck? All the cards of the deck. He's played six card. And another thing, I thought I was interesting this week. Everybody inside the top 10 except for really, right? So everybody inside the top seven was already inside the top 30 except for Kevin Kizner. You went from 40th to like
Starting point is 00:43:42 23rd. Quiz question on this. Where's theadecki Matsuyama in the current FedEx Cup standing? 180th. I'll take the under. I'm looking. So I'll recuse myself. 36th, 18th. Well, I got zero Hadecki memories from this year, other than missing an eight foot birdie putt. Where's Justin? Well, he won the players.
Starting point is 00:44:03 I want to take it with all the points. Also, Scotty Shaffler did make that putt on the 72nd hole. Very cool. Even part of the day. Where's Justin Rose on the FedEx Cup standings? 180. 91. He's gone.
Starting point is 00:44:16 He gone. Ricky's gone. Speak gone. A lot of... Vickal soot's calling names that are gone. I think Speak's coming. How about Phil playing the... Phil's going to the champions tour? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:44:25 how about that? Trying to stay sharp for the US open. Is that depressing for you? No, I actually like it as a little strategic play. Just trying to get some get some competitive reps in before the US open. So what's the what's the story? Yeah, the next two weeks there in the Ozarks at top of the rock. I believe they are.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Yeah, they're playing both courses or they're just playing one course. Truly who could say. I hope that Michelle is only playing the par three courses. Do you guys have any? That events say it is. Any hamster damn takes before we move on to Sofia Popov. If we're in the nest, I didn't watch any of the golf.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Last week of CBS for the year, right? Except for Augusta. Till Augusta. It was gonna be my soapbox Sunday, but I'm not changing the golf. Last week of CBS for the year, right? Except for Augusta. Tell Augusta. It was gonna be my soapbox Sunday, but I'm sorry. You do hate to see that. It's also gonna be why you hate to see it. To answer your question before we do move on, sorry, I pulled up the projected standings,
Starting point is 00:45:16 there's not a lot of massive horror stories from a corporate marketing standpoint up there in the top. I'd say 10, 12. Dustin Johnson, Justin Thomas, these are projected. So, you know, who knows where Harris English will finish, although I think we have a pretty good idea. I know. Dustin Johnson projected standing. Right. I meant, the golf tournament hasn't finished, but I'm sure he'll, okay. Dustin Johnson, Justin Thomas, Web Simpson, Daniel Berger, maybe not ideal. Colin Moore, Kawah, I think
Starting point is 00:45:44 that would be great. Harris English, probably not ideal. Bryson, the big golfer, the Shamboh, SungJM. Which, how much do we miss Bryson on weekends? Like golf is not nearly as fun to watch. SungJM needs to find some form. He's been pretty shaky the last three weeks or so, four weeks. After that, you have John Ram, Patrick Reed, Zander Shoffley, Roy McElroy,
Starting point is 00:46:06 and then you get down to Brendan Todd, your boy, who I think would probably be the worst case scenario of those guys, no offense to anyone. Of which we are still very happy for. Of course, yeah, I would be maybe happier for him than anybody that we kind of rattle off there. I think it'd be perfect if Fina won the FedEx. Would you count that as a win?
Starting point is 00:46:24 No, just as a marker of like how unimportant it is. What is he currently? He's inside the top three. He's starting to roll. He's starting to roll. He's starting to roll. He's getting shlong right now too. Going back to the top of the rock stuff, they're playing two courses, Ozark's National,
Starting point is 00:46:41 which I believe is the new one by Corey and Corrin. Corey and Corrin. And then they're playing the Faws course as well. Buffalo Ridge. Any hamster amtics? No, but that just read to me of the job daily course that was at the Ozarks, that they blew up in order to build Tigers course, which had like a 15 minute cart ride between two of the holes.
Starting point is 00:47:04 It's called like murder ridge or something, wasn't it? It was always good for a laugh. Hansardan, I've watched, really I watched a little bit of golf show coverage and I watched a lot of the Corn Fairy stuff. I just got, I gotta give a shout out to my guy, Berko, Perks, Gary Christian. They're pros.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Billy Ray, they're all down there, or actually they're not all down there. They were down in Orlando, most of them, they had a couple on the ground. The last two days, they would not shut up about Curtis Luxe hands and his freedom in his arms. Gifted hands. Yeah. The only hand. The only hand today I had was that I thought NBC did an awesome job with the women's open
Starting point is 00:47:47 this morning. That was a delightful watch. Wow. I liked the piggyback on that, though, because they showed an hour of it. They cut from golf channel. Oh, I met NBC golf channel. Okay. I hate it.
Starting point is 00:47:58 I was a sky feed. I mean, don't that. Well, listen, I don't know. I'm just, I'm just, I was British announcers. They were just in charge of the feed. No, Rich learner was like, Rich, you could tell when he came in from the studio trying to like fake call it.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Yeah. It was a sky feed. And I think it's where it was. It was great. I thought it was good. I thought it was, I thought it was reprehensible that they would throw coverage from like, just keep it on golf at that point.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Don't throw it over to NBC for two and a half holes. That was stupid. You know what, they're trying to get some network exposure for that's Mike Wands big tent pole initiative network. Maybe it's you will then shame on golf for not putting on NBC in the morning. I'm sure they had to get like meet the press in or something. But you actually that's probably yeah. Your boy Chuck Todd was right. No, Tron's boy Chuck Todd loves his hair. Sleepy eyes, Chuck Todd. He's trying to always tell me he loves his hair. Tron's trying to grow his hair out like Chuck Todd.
Starting point is 00:48:48 Chuck Todd's got the worst go team in all of this. Oh right, and that's Hamster Day. Chuck Dund, you usually gotta shut me up on this thing. Chuck Tron, she's true. You're a bad guy. All I was gonna say is streaming, I tried to stream that and then streaming blows. Every time you get in and out of the app,
Starting point is 00:49:02 you have to watch four new ads. Well DJ was watching the Corn Fairy on streaming today, and he said he just kept getting the same Arby's commercial over and over again. Shout out to Vingraimes. I kept getting the same three PGA tour, like the playoffs, the Corn Fairy spot, and then the Champions tour at Bass Pro Shops, whatever. And I'm like, yo, I'm already watching the golf. I'm watching Corn Ferry for God's sake. You don't have to advertise your product for something that I'm clearly watching by choice.
Starting point is 00:49:33 I was thinking about that after you said that. There might just not be a lot of people lining up to sponsor the Corn Ferry event opposite the playoff. To show us more golf than. I'm with you there. How about the direction commercial? So I did not see this. If you describe it in great detail.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Oh my goodness. That may have been a tag targeted at you. It was not a erectile dysfunction commercial. It was, if you had like a disformed, like this was, I don't feel bad like explaining, I feel weird explaining it, but this was on television. This was, no, this is, I'm just telling you what was on there.
Starting point is 00:50:04 We're not talking about like a run-on-the-mill sea-allis commercial with two elderly folks laying on the bathtub. Which everyone loves the plas and subtlety that comes with those. This was older dudes holding up pieces of food that were in very phallic shapes, and it was talking about like if you have unhealthy bumps
Starting point is 00:50:21 on your erection or if it leads a certain way, then you might have Pyrenees disease or something like that. Right, great peeronees disease. Yeah, and it was like, God takes the cucumber into the doctor's office to show the doctor, like yeah, this is super smart, if you think about it. Right, and so I just was blown away by this.
Starting point is 00:50:41 It was very, very uncomfortable to watch. And I appreciated the, obviously the erectile just phone commercials. I touched a class and subtlety to it. And this was right in your face. So every time I want to complain about golf or the broadcast or whatever, and it's like, God, why don't they just,
Starting point is 00:50:58 why do they turn off so many younger people? Why do they, why are they more inclusive to these other groups, blah, blah, blah? It's like, ah, let's look at who's buying the ads here. And thereby probably pretty, probably watching. Yeah. All right. We're finally getting to this way too late.
Starting point is 00:51:12 And we do apologize for that. But the actual content of the AIG women's open today. So Fia Popov, the 304th ranked player in the world had no status on the LPGA tour. Had one 108,000 dollars in her entire career up to this. One in, I would say pretty commanding fashion, leading from out in front, basically the entire weekend, never missing a shot coming in and $1,650,000 and a major championship for her first win
Starting point is 00:51:39 on the LPGA tour. How about that? It was popping off. It was popping off. Well done. I was waiting for that. Randy, put it in context for us. For Curtis, ask for fun. There's two guys tied for three hundred third in the world ranking. They're Steven Yeager and Hank Lebiota, Hank's on the PJ Torins and Yeagers on the Corn Fairy tour currently. That's great.
Starting point is 00:52:00 That's great around by him today. Yeah, you're at a good, I was going to say, at a good week. That's the equivalent of one of those guys winning a major championship, which is... I mean, first of all, you want to bring us back to what happened at key school with her? Well, yeah, well, you got that intel, so... Who, what did Lauren say? So she played with Lauren Kaufflin, young hitter. Or DJ got that intel. Young hitter of NLU, who, by the way, I was texting with this morning to try to get some context,
Starting point is 00:52:24 and I was like, this is bullshit that they're moving from golf channel to NBC. Lauren LPGA player said, you have no idea how huge this is for us, to get even an hour of network coverage is massive. Oh, well, I would like the record show. I'm finding you for an interview. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Maybe you're more plugged in. Maybe you're more plugged in. I don't know. My problem is they should have more than one hour. And I agree, I think we have common ground. Anyways, Lauren played with Sophia at Q School this year I don't know, my problem is they should have more than one hour. And I agree, I think we have common ground. Anyways, Lauren played with Sophia at Q school this year at Pinehurst, relayed the following intel that she was outside the
Starting point is 00:52:52 number, eagled 17, to get inside the number of getting an LPJ card, and then missed a four footer on 18 to get back outside the number. Brutal finish, then Lauren said that they, her and her husband and Sofia and her boyfriend all went and played the cradle, Rania and other place. Part three courses, I know it ease a lot of your pain as well. Of course. Until it got dark. But yeah, by all accounts, just a super person,
Starting point is 00:53:18 just fantastic, fantastic story. So 27 years old, she played collegially at USC. USC, she was a fighter, fighter on collegiate player. Our national champion. Friend of the program Justin Silverstein said, you know, quote, like, I know, I know a fight on and BTC, I know you will fight tooth and nail to get her into the A and A inspiration and the US women's open. And she doesn't get into either of those as of the moment, which I understand the A&A
Starting point is 00:53:48 because that field was set as like the first major of the year that field always set, but I think it's bullshit that she's not in the US women's open. I would give them a week, a couple of day, like they have to write that wrong, I would think. Can you explain it? Should have been instantaneous. What's going on there?
Starting point is 00:54:02 Sorry, we're going out of order here. So you want to start with the context or you're going to jump right to that? Should have been instantaneous. What's going on there? Sorry, we're going out of order here. So you want to start with the context? Are you going to jump right to that? Start with the context. Well, okay, sure. I mean, the comparison they drew on the broadcast was like a bank hurtist, but probably more out of left field, even than that.
Starting point is 00:54:18 She's never won on the symmetric tour, which is the LPGA equivalent of the Cornfairy tour. Obviously, the number one on the LPGA equivalent of the Cornfairy tour. Obviously, number one on the LPGA tour was cattying a few weeks ago at the event at Inverness. For Anne Van Dam. For Anne Van Dam. I don't know. She was sharing a push card at the marathon with Anne Van Dam.
Starting point is 00:54:37 They were in alternate waves and they passed along the same push card and used it. Yeah. She did win a cactus tour event, which they, you know, at True North, I think, or three this, this, I think she won three cactus tour. That stuff was, again, popping off during COVID,
Starting point is 00:54:52 the cactus tour. Yeah, it was, there was just taking the desert by storm. Storming Norman Schwartz got up. And so what I am not 100% sure of is if she would have played in the women's open under normal circumstances. So I don't think she would have, because I think what happened was based on all of this is second hand via the excellent Bethann Nichols friend of the program.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Basically, I think what happened was so she was so far down the priority ranking, and there were so few players who came over to play those events in Ohio in Toledo. That she ended up getting in on priority ranking. She finished ninth at the second event, the marathon, I think, in Toledo, and then that's what got her in. I'm sure they do like an open qualifying series type thing to fill the field for the women's open. And so that ninth place finish got her into the open,
Starting point is 00:55:45 which then obviously she won. So she would not have been there without, without all the COVID stuff, which is crazy. The whole thing with the open, like with all the exemptions that they're given out to, you know, top five. So the US women's open.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Yeah, the US women's open. So she's not, to tie a bow on all of this, she's not in currently the US women's open or the A&A inspiration because those fields were both finalized. Basically, they're trying to reward the players who had already, these events should have taken place like earlier because of COVID. They got pushed back and delayed. So they're trying to honor those fields that were locked in and basically saying no more new people through the door. So she wins the women's open and is not exempt for the next two majors. Her exemption doesn't kick in until the next season, basically.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Which I think she would be exempt for next year's US women's open. She would, of course. Yeah. But in like no man's land right now, which is, I would say, justifiably bullshit. Yeah, it's a highly unusual scenario, but here it's like, all right, if you're giving all these exemptions to the top amateur players and the top ladies European tour players, whomever just, yeah, like put one more person in the field.
Starting point is 00:56:49 It seems like a massive oversight that they wouldn't have had a, you know, when they're doing top X number of people in the Rolex rankings and top blah, blah, blah, it seems like it would have been really easy to say. To that point, women's open winner, if not otherwise, because there wasn't one scheduled. When they came out with the announcement of the US women's open and if not otherwise. There wasn't one scheduled. When they came out with the announcement
Starting point is 00:57:06 of the US women's open and the exemption criteria, there was not a US, I don't believe this. I thought they came out with the exemption criteria well after the announcement that they're gonna have it. I could be wrong there. I don't know, but I don't. That would make more sense. Yeah, and we're just hours removed.
Starting point is 00:57:21 I would give, I would give them some time to see, to see what shakes out. So if you pop off first German woman to win a major, which is kind of cool. Always, you know, we were talking about like Male or female if you're the first person from a country to achieve something like that I will say the one thing I was a little disappointed in and to take nothing away from her performance I feel like they got crowned a little bit by a lack of wind. It wasn't exactly the type of wind you want to see on a Sunday at an open championship and the other elephant in the room is, you know, how many of the world-class Korean players were not able to make the event. But certainly understandable under under the COVID situation, I don't think it takes anything away from Sophia's performance.
Starting point is 00:58:08 I was shocked. I was, I just thought she was at least gonna make some mistakes today and she was so solid. Made so many, like there's puts on 15 and 16 were just nailed. It was kind of like, all right, let's steer it home here. Let's steer it home and she drains a good long bird on 15 and was like, oh, what an exclamation point. And the lead that did not stretch, they were swanopira.
Starting point is 00:58:30 I'm going to probably mess that up, awesome name, but I've tried to get it wrong. Jasmine kept making birdies. She birdies 16. I still kind of thought it was over then. It still was like, she needed to make a couple of those puts. Which I didn't really, she broke her back a couple of years ago. That's wild. Always a jarring sentence to read.
Starting point is 00:58:45 And like I for this is just like, I don't know what in sports, what else, not just golf, like what in sports can compare to this. Like you can't you can't win like an individual championship like this. If like if you're a minor league baseball player, like you can, yeah, I guess you can hit the game winning home run the playoffs if you're subbing in for somebody injured, but that's not an individual sport, that's a team sport. Like, what other antennas? I know you can make a crazy run, but like,
Starting point is 00:59:11 this is about it we have for a true underdog story to happen in a major championship golf at the new branding on the seems to be also the AIG women's open no longer the Rico women's British open. Good guy. Kind of dropping streamlining it, baby. Somebody did try to chime in and correct me today when the Rico Women's British Open. Good boy. Kind of dropping. Stream line at it, baby. Somebody did try to chime in and correct me today when I called it the British Open.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Like actually, just the women's Open. Like really, like, well, now it's the Women's UK Open. UK Women's British Open. That's what we call when the Korean players don't play. Yeah. And then we just call it the Women's Open when they do play. Hey, hey, you know, AIG stepping up to the plate and then an allions player wins it Tough probably green there. I texted DJ after
Starting point is 00:59:53 Minji Lee made that par save on the Was it the 11th? Yeah, the set the postage stamp now that's the eight. Yeah, the eighth is a postage stamp So the 11th that when she got up and down from like the gorse in the, in the dune, I was like, oh, Lee's gonna win this. And Popov just kept making, kept making the shots, kept executing, rolled in some pods. It was, it was really impressive.
Starting point is 01:00:18 I think that kind of what, postage stamp is incredible, by the way. That was so good. Yeah, I think, yeah, we can get to this in a second, like use... Hostage stamp is incredible, by the way. Very cool. Very cool. Very good. I think, yeah, we can get to this in a second, like how the course played for the women, but it's almost cooler to watch the women play it, like hitting it lower and having control flights differently, and like, that was awesome. Kind of to what you were saying, Sali, about watching the underdogs, you know, and we don't
Starting point is 01:00:38 really have this in other sports. I think what's so cool is, when someone likes to feed a pop-off is trying to do this, it takes place over a back nine that is two, two and a half hours long, and you just watch them struggle like that whole time. And she, I mean, struggles relative. Like, she didn't look like she was struggling with all, but every whole provides its own challenge, and it's always like, God, I gotta be, I can't miss here.
Starting point is 01:00:59 I gotta be in this spot. I gotta be below the hole here. I can't mess up this lag putt, and it was just, she didn't flinch at all. It was insane. And every time you expected her to, it was like, it was like boring off in the best possible way. Finally on 17, she looked nervous.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Like she was like, taking a huge deep breath before she put on like, okay, we need to see that. Because that, you should be really, really nervous right now. This is absolutely nuts that this is happening. Yeah, the lag putting was what I was most taken on. And then also, like, trying to steer at home, I think it's one thing to steer at home on a, you know, more of a target golf course.
Starting point is 01:01:35 It's another thing to steer at home on, like, your ball can get lost in a gore-s bush, or you try to hit one out of a pop bunker, and you're in there for four shots. Like, I feel like it can evaporate a lot more quickly and a lot more randomly on a link golf course. And that's why I think I'm 15, I think was her drive that just missed that pop bunker
Starting point is 01:01:52 and she ended up making birdies. Yeah, that was big one. That was probably, God, if that drive is two feet right of where it ends up in the pop bunker, it's who knows from there. That's two years in a row for Cinderella. I was just gonna say for as good a story this is, like how would you even compare it to last year's winner?
Starting point is 01:02:13 I'll jog your memory. Hanako Shibuno playing her first ever event outside of Japan. But first ever around a golf outside of Japan. When's the the Women's Open Championship? That, I mean, how crazy that was, and then to come back with a story like this is quickly becoming one of the,
Starting point is 01:02:33 one of the must see events in golf each year. Some stellar, three oh fours coming up too. Oh, three oh fours, Ben Curtis, Todd Hamilton. Thank you. Todd Hamilton was at Royaltron. Oh yeah. A couple other pop off things. Like she, she only played one practice round, And there you go. She went to that. She went to that. She went to that. She went to that. She went to that.
Starting point is 01:02:46 She went to that. She went to that. She went to that. She went to that. She went to that. She went to that. She went to that. She went to that.
Starting point is 01:02:54 She went to that. She went to that. She went to that. She went to that. She went to that. She went to that. She went to that. She went to that.
Starting point is 01:03:02 She went to that. She went to that. She went to that. She went to that. She went to that. She went of made some vague illusions to injuries, and I had to get my health right, and all that stuff. Bethann, again, the pros pro. Of course, yeah. Bethann wrote a great story after all the dust settled about. So if you're talking about how she had Lyme disease, and she had to go to like 30 different doctors
Starting point is 01:03:19 to actually get it finally diagnosed, she was just... Jimmy Walker. Similar to Jimmy Walker. Just inexplicably losing 25 pounds. Nobody can figure out what's going on. And I mean, when you're trying to play golf and you just, no matter what you do,
Starting point is 01:03:35 you can't get your body to feel normal. I can't imagine what that's like. So, not just play golf, but hang on to a career. Yes, exactly. Yeah. I was so disappointed by the weather today though. I know. I am too.
Starting point is 01:03:48 That's really the focus of this story. No, how much the wind blew the first two rounds? People were getting eviscerated. Yeah. Absolutely vaporized. I think there was one person under par through 36 holes. And the cut, I think, to make the cut, you just said to be plus nine or better. It was, like, that's awesome.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Which I regret not being able to see that. That would have been cool. Shout out to Austin Ernst, too. She's always, I was like talking to her when we go to events. She's probably my favorite PXG troop. She finished solo fifth. So, looked at, she was wearing jeans, too, which I think that was a cool vibe. Big week for her.
Starting point is 01:04:23 In Be Park plan, really good golf. I think Beth Ann, again, Beth Ann alluded to. She's really feeling her putter right now. I know like when that happens, it's truly a you can cancel for as much as the choice. She had half of McKenzie. She shot, she shot, fine around 66. Marina Alex, she's a COVID survivor. Yes. Finished T14. That was very cool. That was cool. I was disappointed. I continue to be a little disappointed, Lydia Coe, another weekend, Sunday that just wasn't
Starting point is 01:04:54 great. Her and Speed. The Speed Care Loss team. Yeah. Yeah. And then hard to escape that. And Nelly Corda, I think I would have expected a little bit more of her thus far. But I think, yeah, this was a, with so many of the top players not playing this, this
Starting point is 01:05:09 was a great opportunity for a lot of different players to, to Namba Major, Namba First Major something like that. And obviously got an incredible story along with it, which was a lot of fun to watch. We can't, kind of, go ahead. No, I was just going to say the, the mud hand was obviously a little tired from her double in Toledo. Daniel Kang, Daniel Kang, but she did shoot a 67 on Sunday, tied for 36. I was kind of alluded to it earlier, but I don't want to pretend like I watched the whole thing, but even just watching the fun around today, it was so cool to see the way that they had to
Starting point is 01:05:41 like plot around the golf course, because people say that with links golf and men's professional golf, like, oh, they just can't do what they normally do, and that's had to like plot around the golf course. Because people say that with with links golf and men's professional golf, like, oh, they just can't do what they normally do. And that's true to an extent. But when there's this little wind, you know, as there was today, like those guys can still hit it pretty freaking high and stop it pretty quick, like pretty freaking quickly.
Starting point is 01:05:58 And the women just, they don't spend it as much, they don't hit it as high. It is like a totally different game. And I don't know, it feels a lot more, almost like chess, like, you know, a totally different game. And I don't know, feels a lot more, almost like chess like, you know, watching them go around. And it was more women's links golf in the mornings. Like that would be a delightful way to start my Sunday. I loved watching it. Yeah. More inverness, more links, like just more women's golf on like really proper ass golf courses. And outside of the PGA tour window.
Starting point is 01:06:25 Exactly. I'd love to have two screens and watch them, but the reality is that a lot of people are going to choose to watch the men's PGA tour over the women. But if you can have on European tour schedule or different nights of the week or whatever it would be, that would be highly entertaining, I think. We thought Corn Fairy, please. Sure. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Gosh. I'm waiting so long. Curtis Luck, tryin' for the human spirit, tryin' for floral prints everywhere. Got the W, got it done, made a couple massive puts down the stretch, really like four massive putts down the stretch. He, Mucho did not have it today. And that was, so I tweeted something earlier,
Starting point is 01:07:03 but like watching Dustin Johnson hit seven iron into the, the par five second with a five shot lead, which we should also note DJ finished at minus 30 and one by 11. So that's brutal. That, that, that, that, uh, Newx Brian Gays last player to win by double digits. Sorry, T.C. Do you think so? Can we also just say like the cat wanna, the US open by 15? A US open. Yeah. But watching that, that Dustin Johnson shot
Starting point is 01:07:32 was very crystallizing for me and like, okay, this is, this is not how I'm gonna be spending my afternoon is watching this and it just happened to click that, oh my God, the corn fairy tours on fire that up and Curtis was the one shot lead, had a one shot lead going into the fun around and yeah, it just didn't, didn't have it. He drove it. So he drove it, he did not drive it well yesterday either. Right. He was getting, hitting the most insane iron shots out of the woods. Which, and they touched on this,
Starting point is 01:07:57 you know, in the broadcast a lot too, but when he was missing fairways, he was missing them on the right side, so at least he could run him up or at least he had a path to the green and he was, yeah, he was punching out a lot. And his powder looks so good yesterday. And, yeah, he just, I don't think he made his first birdie till 15. Today? Yeah. Which to win on the corn fairy tour, that doesn't happen very much unless you're up by 70 going into the final round. So he had it when he needed it, man. Birdie's 15, 16, par 17, and then maybe one of the best up and downs I've ever seen on 18.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Credit to, first of all, credit to Big Nop. But credit to the Scarlet course at OSU. I think it's a good, No, it's not give it too much credit. No, no, no, they always play tough. They always played tough down the stretch. I do hate seeing guys take it over the corner on 18. That's tough. Up to, that was where someone was throwing the green out.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Yeah, it's like a 430 yard par four. Yeah. Does anybody try to take it over the corner on 16? There's a little runway. Yeah. I did that in the state finals. I tried to. That's, we did not win. I mean, much more impressive guys try to take it over the corner on six. Yeah, I hear that.
Starting point is 01:09:10 All you core fair guys are on notice. I don't want to give any credit to the Scarlett course though. Any credit? None at all for producing good tournaments. It's always a good term. I'm so with you. You know what? It's a it's a good layout. The greens are just with you. You know what? It's a good layout. The greens are just so dumb. I think it's a tough course to watch tournaments, honestly. I just flipped over to it today and I'm just like,
Starting point is 01:09:31 oh yeah, I just doesn't inspire. It just inspires nothing with it. What is it? About it. I've never been there. I've only watched it on TV. It seems totally normal. Just knowing what the greens were like prior.
Starting point is 01:09:41 It's an original McKenzie. With fucking peri-maximal greens. And Jack came in and now they'reenzie with fucking Perry Maxwell greens. And Jack came in and now that it's it proved it. It's just amazing to see like the courses around Columbus like the bunkers getting deeper the greens getting smaller and the quadrants and playing more and more severe is like all of them start to look more and more like in your field village and and then Jack messes with stuff within a five year cycle every time. So it resets the clock.
Starting point is 01:10:06 Cause in his contracts, he puts like you can't renovate. Nobody else can touch a course within five years of him. I think it's 10. What's 10? I think I'm pretty sure it's 10. Yeah. He's the bad guy. Which Saota is finally getting a different look.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Andrew Green will be coming in there to renovate this. That's really surprising though, that you don't like watching events there. Because I totally get what you're saying as far as like playing the course. I was fortunate to play it, but I think it's a great course to watch these events at each year. Yeah, I don't know. It just, it seems like the Greens are way too, they're just too sectioned off from, there's no rhyme or reason to like,
Starting point is 01:10:45 why a ball's running from there to there. Like I can't make sense of on TV, I've played there twice. I think they do a great job on the telecast of like building the drama of a tournament like those guys who are just good at creating. Like there's usually tour cards that are on the line when you watch tournaments there
Starting point is 01:10:59 and it's fun to flip over and watch that more so like a middle of the year, quorum fairy vampire, I just, I don't know how much credit. Do you think the greens, as they are now, make it more difficult? Yes, but almost like not more difficult, like more, not necessarily rewarding for really good golf shots sometimes.
Starting point is 01:11:16 They were firm. I mean, they were like the condition looked great. It was just, because that's usually what, like some of these quorum fairy events, when it's 23, 23, 23, oh yeah, I'm with you there. It's definitely a welcome thing. Yeah, and like bogies are actually in play.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Yeah, I think that's more like what I'm driving. Yeah, I mean, that was the thing, like it was kind of shocking to see the finish where, so Curtis was playing this guy, Cameron Young, went to Wake Forest, had zero status as of like four or five weeks ago. He's basically played his way into, I think he locked it up today,
Starting point is 01:11:45 played his way into like temporary membership. He's coming in like top 15, like four events in a row. After not having, he's a shit out of it. He's got little paws at the top of his swing. Missed in some really bad places today. Not good. And then you had Taylor Montgomery, who I guess is dad's the GM at Shadow Creek,
Starting point is 01:12:02 you and LV guy, he had a good look at it. He bogieed 18 to miss it by one. Yet Theo Humphrey kind of backdoored his way into a T2, finished shot 31 on the back. Trying to continue the call, he would cake eater to a leg away. Yeah, not a fan. Actually Cameron Young's father is the head pro at Sleepy Hollow.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Vince Young. Vince Young. Vince Young, you could give Vince me that one. And then you had Will's, Will's Allataurus, bogey the last two. He was kind of in the driver's seat. Bogey the last two. That was tough. It was shocking.
Starting point is 01:12:35 That first putty hit on 17 was shockingly bad. And then to see him dump it in the bunker on. You hate to see it? Yeah, you do hate to see that. The data golf guys were huge on Will's Allatura. He's really good. Like he's like one of the best players in the world already. Oh, he was just playing court-tune. He was charging. He was knocking down pants today.
Starting point is 01:12:52 And then he, it is physically uncomfortable to watch him putt because he does like the straight line thing on his left arm and then he bends one of his knees, but not the other one. It's bizarre. Another guy, DJ, you were kind of all over him. He faded there at the end was the grocery store guy. Long Eric Barnes. Gray Story, he was, as they'll point out in the broadcast,
Starting point is 01:13:20 he was stalking shelves at publics. That was very cool. Yeah. Just a, not a good aesthetic. Mizuno doesn't make good stuff. And it's just always, he always looks like a minor like baseball player to me. But, but he's playing great.
Starting point is 01:13:32 So, you know, the last few corn fairy events I've watched, I feel like he's been, he's been up there. Congrats to Curtis. Awesome. Winning this would usually come with a PGA tour card, but it jumps up to 18th on the corn fairy point. So he was 135th, I think. It gets him close to getting into Wingfoot too.
Starting point is 01:13:48 Oh. There's a three week little, so the top, I think top four, top five from the Corn Fairy event through, or from the Corn Fairy list, through Portland, got in, and then I think there's three guys that get in via like a little mini series, Boise, Columbus, and what's next week? Indiana?
Starting point is 01:14:09 I believe Victoria. Victoria National. So he's got a good look at that. I think probably just make a cut next week and he should be in good shape. He's a man, he touched on it a lot, both kind of like privately and publicly over the last few months, but he's reworking the swing pretty much entirely.
Starting point is 01:14:26 And he said it in his post-round today. It was like, man, I don't feel like I'm there at all. And so if I can win when I'm not there, I think that's the whole point of trying to revamp everything. So, his swing looks wild. It looks completely unique to ProGolf for anybody who didn't watch it. Just whipping hands at the ball
Starting point is 01:14:45 at the bottom, which it would scare a lot of people, but it looks really cool. The highest finish. And he's just putting the lights out. So shout out to the golf channel, they had a lot of, we kept texting each other, they had a lot of awesome down the line, putt shots where you could just see like truly how steep these greens were
Starting point is 01:15:01 as these balls are just like trickling and wobbling down and hills and stuff, it was really cool to watch. I love watching him put the ball. Like he's got that grip that both of his hands are right next to each other. He uses all that all black putter that I know we're fond of. Yeah, he's just in using the triple track. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:15:18 The triple track looks awesome on TV. Like it's like something to actually look for. You guys ready for some segments? We'd love to. Hate to see it. What do you hate to see this week? I've got one. So, friend of ours, who will remain unnamed.
Starting point is 01:15:31 We were texting with him before the pod here. Shot his career low round. So, it blows down in Austin. Shot his career low round, 73 on a par 71. At Nice Course in Austin, his home course. We come to find out he was trying to punch it through some trees in the first few holes of the day. He ends up ricocheting,
Starting point is 01:15:56 almost hitting him in the junk, hit some in the leg, and he didn't know what, I think he made it bogey or made it double from it. He had two doubles and still shot his lowest round ever, but I don't think he properly penalized himself. Now he's, and now he's de-cute. He's signed for a rock card.
Starting point is 01:16:15 He's signed for a rock card, yeah. That's tough, that's tough, right? You do hate to see that, Randy, you got one? I kind of touched on it earlier, but my hate to see was absolutely not a breath of wind this morning for the women's open championship. I was really looking forward to maybe seeing it howl a little bit. And I will say this, I sent my alarm for 8 a.m. because that's when the coverage came on. And I remember the alarm going off. And I feel like I hit snooze, but I must have hit stop on my phone alarm,
Starting point is 01:16:45 but it didn't feel like that long. And I woke up and I got out bed and it was 9.48. It sounds like a real stuff, but yeah, it was just total tired body still on West Coast. I kind of hated to see that for myself. You're gonna have to put up some much bigger, even with that, you're gonna have to put up some much bigger numbers to keep up with me and TC
Starting point is 01:17:04 on the sleep front. I had a pretty easy one. Phil Mickelson, Justin Rose, Tommy Fleetwood, Ricky Fowler, Jordan Speeth, Zach Blair from a personal standpoint, all missing the BMW Championship. You kind of hate to see that. Those are some pretty big names.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Other than Scottie, you know, Scottie Shuffler's Cady going down I kind of hate to see that. Those are some pretty big names. Brother Brian Gay. Brian Gay. Other than Scotty, you know, Scotty Shuffler's Cady going down and Scotty not caring and just going on and playing without him, that was gonna be mine, but. My hate to see it is actually Bryson, telling someone at a,
Starting point is 01:17:37 at a famous event that they needed to quiet down. Sound travels. Because sound travels. He did miss the cut, which is something you actually do truly hate to say, because he is definitely, I would call him the needle right now in PGA, Torgolf, rubber the green. I mean, you mentioned it earlier, Randy, but the Sofia Papa's T shot on,
Starting point is 01:17:57 on, on, say, say 15, 15. Uh, yeah, I mean, that was when it was in the air, like, that was, that had double bogey ridden all over it. Instead, it just skirts the bunker by two feet and she goes on to win. So that was when it was in the air, like that was, that had double bogey written all over it, instead it just skirts the bunker by two feet and she goes on to win. So that was a positive rub of the green. Rub of the green gave it just as much as take it the way. Rub of the green? United lost my luggage yesterday.
Starting point is 01:18:16 I'm no way back from Portland. Is this enough to listen? I've rode for United longer than anybody, but I have recently jumped ship. I have been, began riding pretty hard for Delta, had a great experience on this trip. He's all in on United, because I often want some status. Is this enough?
Starting point is 01:18:34 Well, probably because so many people are jumping. No, I earned that status. No, it's because there's no, all right, so Delta has more elites here in Jacksonville, like per capita than anywhere, because all the PGA tour people, a bunch of the big Amazon office here, and everybody just racks up extra segments.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Go and do it, Lanna. Go and do it, Lanna, and then onward. And united up until COVID, farthest west I could get was Denver on the direct flight, United had that. I was about to ask anyone could get, not just you. No, no, no, no, just me, because I won't fly Frontier. I'm not the first big hit in the track. Frontier is awesome. Not just you. No, no, no, no. Just me, because I won't fly front here.
Starting point is 01:19:05 You get the biggest. I'm not gonna take this. Frontier is awesome. Frontier sucks, but that's a severed podcast. Anyway, now we had to do plane trains and automobiles to get back to Jacks. So on the way back, I had to fly Portland to Denver, Denver to Houston, Houston to Jacks.
Starting point is 01:19:20 And then they thought that the Denver to Houston leg was gonna get delayed. So then they checked me into Denver to Dallas, and then Dallas thought that the Denver Houston leg was going to get delayed. So then they checked me into Denver to Dallas and then Dallas to Jackson. But never a good time. Then they they rerouted my bags and they said, Hey, you're actually going to make your flight Houston to Jackson. T.C. we've moved stuff around. But my golf bags made it to Jackson.
Starting point is 01:19:40 My other bag went to Dallas. It's just journey laundry at this point. Yeah, I didn't need it or anything. But, you know, that was the rub of the green. Mine is gonna be, you know, we spend a lot of memory space, a lot of time, a lot of effort, spent recording shots on par threes, on all of our travels,
Starting point is 01:19:59 and just hoping to capture a little bit of magic. Well, it finally happened. There was an Ace, a one made by yours truly, on the third hole at Bannon Preserve. Uncle Juice wasn't with us. I would like to take this time to now that I've been on this block for a long time. A lot of people commenting, you know,
Starting point is 01:20:17 big celebration for a chip-in, for all these things, blah, blah, blah, doesn't count. It officially does not count. It is the rub of the green that this moment was caught on tape and it was a joyous celebration, but it is. Also we were kind of drunk. Very much drunk and just super having a great time. I have no regret for the celebration and it was a one,
Starting point is 01:20:38 but it is not during an official round of golf. I think a whole in one has to be at least during like a nine- hole round of golf. We were playing alternate shot just messing around what not doesn't count. And so let's say you make an ace on all shot format on a regulation size 18 hole course. Yes, that counts. I would say in my book, would you? Well, I mean, you just alluded to all shot. I'm saying we're just like messing around playing playing a skins game on a part three course.
Starting point is 01:21:08 I think you have like four, however many part threes there are, four, five, or six part threes, that's a lot of opportunities. 13 whole part three course and this one we played, we moved up to super far to get the best angle at a pin for a hole in one and we got it. So a lot of people are like jumping all over to say, I had a dozen count as a real ace. That's cool, because I'm not counting it as a real ace. And I think that's in line with what I've always said too, which is that it is, it's entirely personal.
Starting point is 01:21:33 If it's up to you, if you want to count it, count it. If you don't want to count it, don't count it. Do I think you should count it? No, I don't. Because you play a lot of golf on big boy golf courses and that's not your only opportunity. If you are a little kid who only has access to a par three golf course,
Starting point is 01:21:48 you're gonna go tell that kid, like sorry man, your ace doesn't count. How about the kid, there were a couple viral videos going around. How about the four year old kid playing CAC handed who rolled one in from whatever, looked like about a hundred yards. Like, yeah, sorry man, that doesn't fucking count.
Starting point is 01:22:00 I would tell you the golf course. I would tell him that. One is a Hicken Cups. If you completed the whole round Hicken Cups, I would maybe lean into it being a whole in one form. So I'm relieved to hear you say it doesn't count, but I also... Well, I'm just glad to have one that doesn't count now, because I feel like I'm bigger flex. Right. It's like, all right. I could add to my total. I'm not. I don't regret the celebration, like I said, of the hundreds and thousands of 65-yard pitch shots I've hidden in my life. I think I can only remember holding one from 60 around that number in my whole life
Starting point is 01:22:30 So to actually have it go in it was very exciting and fun. Congratulations. That's the rub of the green to make a whole and one and have it not cap Randall But it's also I haven't recorded it as a cool rub of the green. That is a cool rub of the green That won't be it's the only spoiler we're going to give you for, uh, to our sauce season six. Mine's not nearly as cool of that. I should have gone before that. Rory, that's true. That's the limit. That's true.
Starting point is 01:22:52 That was, I don't know if he did something and went back for his, he was in front of a rock. Yeah. He just like chipped it right into the rock and went in the water for a triple. He made two triples on the front nine Saturday. That was kind of sick. Rub of the green. Uh, but then T.C., you inspired me with your travel rubber the green.
Starting point is 01:23:06 So all in all, our return flight home was originally supposed to be a one-stopper, Portland Minneapolis, one-pit to Jacksonville, and the COVID, I guess canceled some of the Minneapolis to Jacksonville flight, so we had to then go through Atlanta. We are getting boned in Jacksonville.
Starting point is 01:23:21 We had to switch to the soft tires to go for a fastest lap there near the end. The, the, uh, and the Jacksonville flight. We were already the most underserved airport in Norths. They had to switch to the soft tires to go for a fastest lap there near the end. The jacks. We were already the most underserved airport in North America, largest city in North America without a direct flight to the west coast, largest city in North America without a direct flight to Europe. Now we can't even get to freaking Minneapolis or Chicago on a direct trip. What are we supposed to do? Sir, I'm trying to travel. Start using some of your influence. You have many Twitter followers. You just start using your platform. Start running up the chain.
Starting point is 01:23:48 Yeah. Soapbox Sunday, let's wrap it up that. I'll use my ace thing as my soapbox Sunday. That's kind of what I have in my mind. TC. I want to talk a little bit about Formula One and I want to, first of all say, I didn't get a chance to do this last week after Barcelona. First of all, say, fuck you to all the haters for racing point. Cheatin' ass
Starting point is 01:24:09 racing point. No, racing point. Landstrel finished fourth, Sergio press finished fifth. These are not official results, pending the investigation. So you're sending yourself out from massive apology, depending on what you won't make. They've also appealed, your boy, Lando, 10th. He's like one of five guys to qualify within the top 10 every race. Sebastian Vettel, just to absolutely disgrace what's happening for our area. I think we can find community there.
Starting point is 01:24:37 But Vettel, I think, is gonna sign with racing point. So who are they gonna kick out? Are they gonna kick out Sergio Perez? Of course. I mean, there's certainly not any. I mean, there's, like, his I mean, there's definitely not any. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:47 Why doesn't, why doesn't Vettel go back to Red Bull? It will be my question. Cause Albon's bucking. Albon sucks. No, he just can't qualify. Then he's super bad. That's a problem. He's thinking.
Starting point is 01:24:57 No, he stinks. I think you guys are gonna come, you're gonna rule the day you made this woman. No, Albon's like the guy that shoots, he's like Rory and Majors. He shoots like, or in like, he like backdoors, it's like a six. It's like a first round, 78,
Starting point is 01:25:09 and then he shoots like 66, three consecutive times. He gets fast when he's like out of it, and it doesn't matter. And he needs experience. Give him a little bit of time. Did you watch the Indy 500 today? Absolutely not. Did you?
Starting point is 01:25:21 Yeah, that's always one of the joys of the sports calendar. But some F1 guys were in it. Fernando Alonzo was racing. No way. Not current F1 guys. Alonzo's coming back next year. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:34 But yeah, but McLaren, they said McLaren won't let him race at least for the next two years while he's under contract at McLaren. I did see there's talks to bring a Formula One race to Indianapolis. Well, now that Penske has taken ownership of Indianapolis Speedway, that's hopefully going to grease the grease the wheels. Did you guys see the big Williams news? They got bought by US investment investment
Starting point is 01:26:00 banker, bros. I ran down the whole list on the, what's going to happen to Claire though? Oh, I think Claire's done. She might be test. I guess my soapbox to, to is one, any 500 is awesome. There's a lot of genuine excitement in that. And two, women's golf is awesome. I was very happy to wake up and, and thrilled to, to watch the women's British this morning. This has probably should have gone in the hamster damn section, but this has happened since
Starting point is 01:26:29 we started recording it. But apparently a shot across the bow was thrown by one gym dances. They went off the arrow, shot out to Lance Barrow for the volume of shots that we're shown today, which I believe is 330 shots, which I don't know why that has to be pointed out, I think. Exactly. That's how it feels like feet of putts made. It feels a little like feet of putts made and it feels like, yeah, thank you.
Starting point is 01:26:50 That's what we were asking for. So the fact that you feel the need to point it out shows you weren't doing it before. Clearly, when you were showing like 178 shots per broadcast, then yeah, that didn't get highlighted that quickly. So I just wanted to say my soapbox on a good riddance. We'll see you at the masters. And then that's it for Lance, right? That's it for Lance.
Starting point is 01:27:11 So he has one more tournament and then he's done. And hopefully the golf world will be watching golf as well as you guys are going to find a new boogie man after that. It'll be mission accomplished. All right, anything else would be spiked in the football? We got spa coming up. Oh, spa.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Big, big weekend ahead. Thanks everyone for tuning in. We will be ramping up some coverage for the BMW Championship. This is the one tournament, of course, BMW is a sponsored ours. A tournament that we like to attend and try to blow out as much as we can. We also can't attend it this year.
Starting point is 01:27:43 So I'm sure exactly what our plan is for content this week, but it will be ramped up a little bit. Got some good stuff coming for Tuesdays pod and some extra coverage around the tournament. It's potentially some live shows, I believe, coming later this week. So look forward to that. Thanks everyone for tuning in
Starting point is 01:27:58 and we'll see you back here next week. Cheers. Crackle. Give it a right club. Be the right club today. That's better than most. How about in? That is better than most. Better than most.
Starting point is 01:28:24 Expect anything different. I Expect anything different

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