No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 348: BMW Championship Recap

Episode Date: August 31, 2020

Fireworks from Rahm and DJ, Olympia Fields absolutely bucks its head, Hideki, Niemann, Rory, and everything else from an exciting week at the BMW Championship. We look at how the FedExCup playoffs are shaping up, discuss Phil's win on the Champions Tour, LPGA, KFT, we settle the Pittsburgh debate, F1, and the usual segments. (Apologies of course for not getting into questions.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most. he is here to talk just at length about his boy. God, what a win. What a cool win. What a golfer. I never knew he was this good. What an eye opener.

Can you see us here? Can we edit Randy's take from Thursday night? What was the take with it? He's not good at golf or he doesn't enjoy watching. He does nothing for me. He's not good at golf. Which that's so... Yeah, he's still done doing anything for me.

But my whole point was I, because I've never seen anything contrary, I, he's still done doing anything for me, but my whole point was I, because I've never seen anything contrary, I believe he's stung, because I'd never seen him play well with my own eyes. DJ Pies here and ready to speak. Very ready to speak, as I pointed out on the live show, that could be because you don't watch golf, which is we need to at least acknowledge,

and B, you did watch golf today, so what did you see as you crunching on your ice? Before we get into that, sorry. Let's get, before we get too deep on this, we got an email from a listener this week, his name's Rob. He said, long time listener, first time emailer, thought I would share what I think is a cool story with you guys.

I thought this was a very cool story. Said earlier this year, I bought a dozen of the NLU ChromeSoft truvas balls as an add-on to get free shipping on my order. They sat in my closet, which is how we get you free shipping on my order. They sat in my closet, which is how we get you by the way. Yeah. They sat in my closet as I wasn't quite sure.

I wanted to be the guy in the force I'm rolling the soccer ball around the course. Fair thought I've had this thought as well. Then COVID hit and my stepmother became very ill, eventually passing away from COVID-like symptoms. A week after her passing, I found a few minutes to get out to the course. She was always a fan of doing what made you feel good

and not worrying about what others think. So I grabbed the red, white, and blue soccer ball. With the wayward drive logos went out to the course. She was always a fan of doing what made you feel good and not worrying about what others think. So I grabbed the red, white, and blue soccer ball, but the way we drive logos went straight to the tee. While I would be happy to take you through shot by shot of that round, I'll summarize by saying, I recorded my lowest round ever in first round in the 60s. So now the guy who was too self-conscious

to even try the truvas at first now has it proudly displayed for Altacy. Thanks for the assist on a special memory. How about that? That was a tremendous story to get this. And I'll say Rob, an alum, the My Alma Mater, Marist, the, the, the, the, the, Marist. The Marist.

And he did this on a very proper golf course. It's, it's very impressive. And I think we, anyone that plays the truvas has dealt with the stigma in their head of, of, do I want to be this guy playing the soccer ball. And I think anyone who's, who's played the truvas has had that aha moment of like, man, that's that was chip shot was fun to watch.

That was fun to watch. Who gives a shit? Yeah, exactly. Now back to why Randy hates Ron so much. Look, look, he was a safe play. I don't think you hate him. He just doesn't do anything. No, no, he just doesn't do anything.

Like you like watching him play. I did today, that was very fun to watch today. That was very fun to watch. I felt like he was gonna beat the shit out of somebody in the crowd like for his celebration, just like walk over him. He's been working on that temper. Did he think it, I don't think he thought it was in

until the last six feet or so. I think he was kind of walking to see how the putt was gonna react coming back, trying to get the read. And then he kind of stopped in his tracks, like whoa, this might go in. That pen was awesome. Randy thought maybe it was a funnel pen.

It looked like a total funnel pen. I didn't see it. Did you see any putt? The miss from that spot. That's right. Can you use me? Made his putt from the angle. But Kenzie Hughes was the only one

that didn't go in the dead center of the hole. DJ Admire was both hit the absolute dead center of the hole. But first of all, DJ's putt part, I don't know where to start. It's always hard to react to like really great drama. Like I don't know what more I have to add other than that was. That was insane. That was the worst part. Yeah, he's a savant.

DJ Tron and I were watching it. And I'll say this, DJ called it early. I told him absolutely not. My fiance called it too and I was like, he's not even, no, it's over. I got to go over to the house, record the pod. He's like, no, he's gonna make it. And then there are very few moments in the year

where literally you jump off the couch and excitement. And that was, yeah. You didn't jump off the couch. No, I was just saying that was, that was Tron. Oh yeah. Came over and high-fived us. That was true. I mean, that was a top three moment of the year for you.

And then I said, FU Randy. And then he disparaged me. It's one of the greatest players of all time. Maybe the greatest player of all time. Have you ever erupted from the horizontal position on the couch, all the way off the couch because of golf? Yeah, for sure. From all the way horizontal?

Like laying down. Well, he was horizontal on the floor for a while. Well, is any elevated for the final stretch? No, if I get horizontal though, it's a good indicator of, it's just not doing it for me. You were horizontal for a while today, Deach. For a minute, yeah. For not the right reasons. What?

The whoop, the whoop killer. No, just like, you said it was one of those gas leak. Oh, it was, yeah. Now I'm confused. So the tournament, and we'll get to, this is not really coverage related totally. It was just, this is not hamstered, am I? It felt very flat up until, you know, it didn't, right? And it was kind of watching the final round

and it kind of waffled between like DJs going to win by a million after the first four or five holes. And then I called it a gas leak tournament where you kind of just slowly, slowly sink into your couch and you kind of just don't, you watching but you don't really take anything in until I was kind of like had to snap myself back out of it. And like, whoa, like Neiman's leading?

Like, when did that happen? I've been watching for two hours. I had no idea Neiman was leading. But then I thought it, you know, obviously it was extremely dramatic coming down the stretch. So somebody, somebody jumped in and said, it's not gas. Not gas. It's not gas. Not gas.

Shout out to our guy in William Sound and Massachusetts. Rahm was T39 after 36 holes. I don't know if you guys caught this, but yesterday during his round, he picked up his ball. They couldn't show that enough time. On the green, I have no complaints about that. They could have showed it 20 more times.

That would have laughed every single time. Like, how's that? It was like the Zach Johnson. We talked about the last show of the day. How does that happen? I've played less rounds of golf in my life than John Rome. Yes, never in the playoffs though. I swear. Playoff pressure makes you do that thing.

And you just went and picked his ball up. He's in the zone, man. How about the fact, I mean, there's a lot of stats you can dig up from this week. How about the fact that his only bogey on the weekend was when he fucking picked up his ball without marking it? That's the only one. And like, I know today it was a bit soft

and bit of a crowning, I believe Randy would probably say, but it was not easy. I think it wasn't easy to avoid bogeys for 36 straight holes, aside from picking your ball up. I think you really saw that with DJ Shot into 18 in regulation. Like that was the perfect example of like, man, and he hit it to 40 feet,

but what an unbelievable golf shot. That was one of the best shots of, you know, year. He landed that in the circle that he had landed in. It wasn't a best shot to turn him in, but it was one of the best shots I've seen on here. How's picking up your ball only on one stroke penalty? That's exactly what I was thinking too. What would be a more equitable penalty for you?

DQ for sure, but at least a two stroke here. Kick is that stuff to tour? Maybe. Why should it be a two shot penalty? Why should it just be one? It's like taking it on playable basically. It's taking it on playable unofficially. So you're taking the on playable,

but you didn't do it correctly. So you should be penalized further. Taking an unplayable is a gentlemanly thing to do. Yeah. Just picking up your balls not gentlemanly. It's not at all. It's true. It's like Michelson at Chinnacock. Kind of similar. That ball was in the house.

We don't know where that one was going to end up. That was... He also should have taken it unplayable. What was his penalty? He should have been deacued, for sure. And maybe possibly suspended for the rest of the year. I wouldn't want to do anything to discourage that kind of behavior.

That was awesome. I like going back to psychologically. What is he thinking? What is, I mean, I know he wasn't thinking, but how does that happen? The only way I could explain it is they show the clip when they saw it for the 18th time today, he show him repairing his ball mark

and like putting his divot tool away when he repairs it puts a divot tool away and then reaches down for the ball. I think that in his, he crossed up the two things of like, yeah, this is a coin and I've already done the marking. Now I just picked the ball up. That's the only thing I can think of. I have a very important question for you guys.

And it's one I didn't pay attention close enough to find the answer to today. Does Ramsey's poker chip to mark his ball? Because that would be a huge knock, Randy, and I would be firmly much more in your camp if that's true. Because that's a knock-head. I don't think so.

I didn't notice. Which means I'd probably not, but... That could have been part of the whole marking thing. He's wrong. He had the thing at the... You know what it probably was? Jason Cocrack had all his chips. He had pushed him into the center of the ring.

Cocrack, I think, was even or one over at that point too. He was like through, four under on the deck. I think the field might have called Co-crack's bluff today. He was short stacked, all right. He wasn't bluffing though, right? No, he went, but he more got like beat on the turn maybe. Push came to Chevy just to eat the car. He went all in like four or five times and one.

He had Ace King, just like nothing came on the flop for. He had Ace King three times. Yeah Three times over yeah Going back to rock like rom had the name at the British open. Oh, it's not going to work with the The Scottish open Irish open Irish open one of those open. They're all the same to T.C No, nobody loves national opens more than me. He had that thing go on, he had thing at Mirfield. He said this, I think he's had a couple other instances as well. Is he developing a little bit of a Cavalier reputation?

I mean, this, I don't know if this is Cavalier. Yeah, this felt like just a complete brain fart. How, where do you put your ball back down after you pick it up? That's what I'm saying, Randy. So he didn't move his, like, hey, his caddy, like pointing exactly, he's like, that's where it was right there and didn't move his foot. Like, he's like, don't move your foot.

I know exactly where the spot is, but. I think one shot is. I don't want to play the grass though, right? I think one shot is plenty punty. It's like a butterfly flabbing its wings somewhere in Africa. If you don't pick his ball up there, this whole thing might go somewhere. Maybe McKenzie Hughes isn't in East Lake next week. If Ram puts his ball in a slightly different spot.

Wow. Yeah, we'd have to dig into the math on that. At first blush, that doesn't seem like a shaker. And the Randy said butterfly effect. Yeah. So many different things could have happened. Did you just don't know? Yeah, listen, you guys are right.

That's going to be a theme for the rest of the episode. I'm sure it's TC Randy, you guys nailed it again. DJ going into East Lake as number one at 10 under par. Takes the lead at the Torch Championship, Ram in second at minus eight. Does that feel right, do you guys? I think that feels right. I think it's everything else that doesn't feel right.

What do you mean? They're not that far ahead of the other guys when they've kind of lifted and separated, right? Yeah. I thought Joel Damon had a great point on Twitter. He retweeted Milling Up thing and he's like, yeah, like this is right, but I also like don't know what the answer is, right?

I was mostly joking. I think, like if we want a final fun event, don't give somebody a eight shot lead. Like that's not gonna be interesting. It just seems like, if this thing was more than just a kind of a sham or whatever you wanna call it at the end of the year, DJ should have won it.

If you won's the first two, there should be a battlefield. All right, you win a $10 million bonus. Or you have a five or six shot lead. And then everybody else is trying to team up and get. Or you get three Mullgens, how sweet would that be? Just make it weird. We're out of gravity recalls.

Okay, yeah. Ron, you gotta hit that part of it. Yeah, Ron, you're great putt man, but you gotta hit it again. Now you know the line. I think the more damning thing was the fact that Brian Harmon that will Gray, Stat that he tweeted out.

What was it? Brian Harmon almost got into the tour championship after having one top 10 this year. Correct. This would have been a second. Right. But that's like, they make all this deal about the season long championship and all that stuff.

But I think the season long goes until the playoffs start, right? The playoffs have to be volatile. And they're arguably not volatile. Shout out big leash. They're not volatile enough. I mean, seven spots were up for grabs. Like, I don't know.

These things should be worth more. I would hate, I was kind of surprised some of the guys that were in the top 10 today that didn't make it into East Lake. They were just too far back. Co-CRACK T6 and he finished 42nd in the points. I also don't want to sit here and weep for the guys that didn't make it to East Lake because they still get to make their own schedules. They still get to them.

Yeah, but the majors, that's a big deal. I get the majors, but it's still... The tournament of champions, come on. Are we sure the majors, but it's still the tournament champions. Come on. I mean, that's that's true. Are we sure the majors are, are, you know, are included? NBC would not say anything. They mentioned the majors, I think they said the majors, but now we don't know what the definition of majors are. That's, you know, who knows? They include the player. Maybe they didn't even include the PJ championship. I felt like the red film was was ringing all all weekend. Pond of Idris is calling in. Hey, you can't say this. Hey, you can't say that. Azinger said, Hey, it's the FedEx cup is a pretty prestigious thing.

They made him go back and have a five minutes illiquid about. It was five minutes or five seconds, which one was closer? Listen, who can say what what did it seem like? I think the that was the moment I knew that the Therese Cup was prestigious though. When someone tells you what it's the second time. That helps, for sure. And that's what I think made us so excited

about seeing those puts going was that we had been reminded constantly of just that these guys were doing it for the glory. But I think the minus 10 minus 8 thing, I think that all feels right. It's fine. I think it's been a fun thing to bitch about for the last, I don't know, 13 years, I guess, but it feels like I will give the tour credit,

I think that the system feels like it's been changed what, seven times, eight times, and it does feel like it's been changed for the better. It feels a lot more cohesive. Yeah, I feel like to your point, Sally, the regular seasons straight forward, there's fucking way too many events and it's completely watered down and I feel like Wyndham got fleeced on all their Wyndham reward stuff.

And that's a whole other thing. But the way that the balance of volatility between the playoffs and the regular season and all that stuff, it feels like DJ and ROM, like yeah, those should be your two guys coming in. If Harmon couldn't play his way into East Lake, like, don't let him in the playoffs then, it would be my take. If he's played good enough in the playoffs to make it all the way through, like, that's the

whole point. Horseshoe story was a pretty, like a damn good feel good story at the time. I mean, he was 82nd, I think, heading into Boston, finished second there, won the BMW, won the tour championship, and won enough money to change his life. I thought you were talking about this year. I'm like, I don't really care if you can do it. No, no, no. But yeah, no, a Ridge, his story in 2014,

or whatever that is, yeah, that's why. Holy shit, Joaquin Neiman didn't make it to the Torch Amp chip. Yeah, he did, he's 18th. Oh, this is, all right, this is the non-updated ones. You would think they would have updated their fucking websites by now. It's updated on the leaderboard to be fair to them.

Okay. You would think so. And that's something you do hate to see. Before we go any further, if you watched, you know, we were filming the most recent season of Taurusos in Oregon. You may have seen a video that we shared of a hole in one at a beautiful par three course at Bayon and Dunes. A video that shows the swing.

You see the ball go in the hole. You see the wild celebration in the ensued. You didn't see the debate afterward if the weather nodded actually counts as an ace. I think you were riding hardest against it. For sure. And like, we're all like, do we don't care? Yeah.

Let's just go drink some happier. No, it's just going to happen. Neal's like, yeah, but is it an ace? And I was like, no, it's not an ace. But you're not listening to me. But the video doesn't show is what took place right before that. We used the new NX7 slope rangefinder for precision pro golf

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you're signing up for a lifetime service. So swing with confidence, hit more greens, maybe even a hole in one with precision progolf. Randy, John Robb, 96 feet of huts made today. Not include the playoffs. Not include. Not include. How about that? Almost made. Not including the playoffs. Not including. How about that?

Almost made as many in the playoffs as he did. That's cool. That is such a cool stat. That was what? It was 66 feet I think? Yeah. So he made 51 feet of putts on Thursday. Wow. So truly more feet of putts. That's unbelievable.

You guys can believe it. Before we go any farther, Wait, do you want to guess how many feet of putts Adam Scott made today? Like 14. 16. 33. That's not a lot.

Yeah, that's pretty cool. It was a poor effort. That's, that's neat. You know what, 33 times two is. 66. Mackenzie, you shout out, man. He will be going to East Lake. Yeah.

Before we go any farther, can we talk about the setup? Because I think that informs everything else. Can we talk Mac, Hughes real quick? That moment? That was all I wanted to say. I think that goes into a little bit of coverage and a little bit of stuff too. All right.

Is that fair? Let's go. I did a playoff take, but go. Are we going to get back to the playoffs? Let's go play off and then we'll go core setup. I think we're going to go pretty good on core setup. So what was your playoff take? This is the second round of three, and there were only two guys that played themselves in.

There's just not enough fluidity. Two guys that played themselves into E-Sleeck. Oh, that's the only two guys that swapped spots this week. That's fair take. But you're also not considering, the flip side of that is you're also not considering that guys didn't have guaranteed spots. They still had to play well to keep, stay in the top 30.

It's not like the top 30 was solidified and certain guys are getting bounced and so on. How many were actually solidified? Like 17 or so? Data golf had it around 23 spots where basically, mathematically, 99.5% chance are better. So two of the seven then flipped.

Yeah, which like maybe there probably does need to be a little bit more volatility, but then we get to the point where we're complaining about Brian Harman. I think it's just, I think the simplest fix and this is not what the players would want to hear as this is just a massive cash redistribution system as we've said, is there's just too many people

that start the first event, right? I mean, for sure. Like that's kind of the whole thing. Like I have no problem with two people only moving in because I think it focuses the story a little bit and you can get it locking on the McKenzie Hughes thing or Billy Horschl or Cory Conner's four-pudding the last green or whatever

to shake things up. Like that stuff becomes crystallized a lot more. I think when there's 15 guys that might move in, then all of a sudden it's like, if everything stays the same, this will, okay, this guy just made a pot. If everything stays the same now, this will happen, blah, blah, blah. So I think there's just too many guys that get into the Nordic Trust. I think that's a very good point too, where they got rid of one of the four playoff events. They've added the Windom rewards thing.

All right, find the middle ground then where 100 guys get into the playoffs. The other 25 guys still have their full card for next year out of that category, but they don't get into the playoffs. And I think if you're... And then there's two different things at the end of the year,

windom thing where there's two different things to track then, not just FedEx cup. Are you in the playoffs or not? It's cards plus playoffs. Which I think that, yes, I think that's great. And I think that, you know, if you are speaking totally as a fan here, the whole, the only like money thing

that people care about is the $15 million, right? Like nobody cares what eighth place makes or 12th place makes or third or fifth place makes. Or any of you care. They could, but what I was gonna get at is like, if we go back to our thing from last week and we say that the playoff should be the top 64 guys after Wyndham, like go ahead and give big bonuses to 65

through 125, I don't care. Like whatever, I don't need to see the money. Like those guys can still get paid out without being in the playoff events. Where right now all they're kind of doing is like taking up space and maybe occasionally you get one guy who goes on like a mega heater and gets in like the Billy Horseshoe story, but...

But we don't need it. We have an amen, amen to that. You could still get that in the top 64, I guess is what I'm saying. And the fact that guys are like the tours not leaning into the money, like they've never leaned into the money, but especially not this year. It wasn't paying this close attention. I don't remember hearing them mention the 15 million. I was shocked to hear. I think they're under a gag order. Well, no. So that's what I thought. I was randomly flipped on golf channel and heard, I think it was Kara Banks

was doing the intro and like, let's go now. Let's throw it out to Olympia Fields and the race for the FedEx cup and 15 million dollars. And I was like, whoa, I haven't, I don't think I've actually heard them like say that. That's, that's interesting. So I don't know. I feel like they steered into it a little bit last year. She got to finish the weekend or not, but I, you know, I heard her say at least.

I feel like they leaned into it last year. Like they were talking about like this puts for million dollars and all that kind of stuff, but it's gonna be awkward if this year with everything going on and all the charities that are not getting nearly the amount of money that they have in the past. It's gonna be, it's gonna be a little awkward there on the, on the 72nd hole.

Which is why it feels a little laughable when you hear, and this is way to, inside baseball, but when you hear the song that they chose is literally the words, are I do it for the glory? That feels like you're doing a Google search of, like how do we make people care, you know, think that these players

don't care about the money and they care about something else. Where are they? Oh, this one says that we do it for the glory. Like, that's fucking perfect. That's like exactly what we're trying to say. Just use that one I think they're Christian raps on

I did I yeah And any time you hear the word glory in a song like that if they have my spidey sense goes up if they appropriated a Christian rapsong for the FedEx cup that would be It's a score, glory. I think is the, yeah. I mean, let me do some research on the score. I got it, I have a buddy that will send me songs every now and again. It'll be like, hey, I really like this song. Check it out.

And, you know, I'll be a minute into it. And they're just using too many of those like, you know, he glory, you know, and it's like, and I just tell those, like, you know, he, glory, you know, and it's like, and I just tell him, like, what is this? I guess this is Jesus song, and invariably it is. Many people, all right, the score is the band, they're from LA, they're listed as Alt Rock, Pop Rock,

Brit Pop, Modern Rock. I do not see anything about being Christian Rock. But they are deep in the ad game. I do not see anything about being Christian Rock. But they are deep in the ad game. They've provided theme songs for the world series of poker, a Jeep Grand Cherokee commercial, dude, perfect videos. They seem like off brand Imagine Dragons. Yeah, I can see that.

It's like the store brand version of Imagine Dragons. All right, well, we clearly need to do a much deeper dive on the score, but does that take us to Mackenzie Hughes, by the way, speaking of the score? Speaking of the score that he needed, how about that far on 18? Well, going back to the facts got bonus stuff.

Going back to the score. So at least based on last year, I don't think they tweaked it too much. 30th place gets 395K. Like, whoever finishes 30th at the East Lake, whoever finishes 31st and didn't get an East Lake, gets a $200,000 bonus. And then it's descending from there

to where everybody, to about 65, it starts falling off pretty, but everybody inside the top 65 gets at least $150,000 bonus. So there's not a whole lot of difference between the 31st and say 65th. And that's kind of where I'm getting at. It's like, do you know what he cares about that? Like, just write him a check after wind him.

And that's basically what he knew. Send him on their way. Yeah, they don't need to play. No, but then they're cluttering up the quote unquote playoffs. Like, get him out of there. Exactly, like, that's the thing. It's like the whole BMW championship he is like,

all right, cut it down to the 30 and then do like a two week fucking sweepstakes. And then if you need some, I don't know, you at least get a chance for some fluctuation with this. Like they need a couple of storylines to follow. Like this guy could, they almost never do, but he could jump from 65th to 30th. But that's their worst nightmare, right?

Is because then those guys were taking money out of Rory and... I hope Rory's not. And those guys pockets, because that's what this whole thing is for, is to reward the best players for playing at the end of the season. No, it takes money out of the guys pockets that fall from like 28th to 31st in that regard. Like the top guys are still gonna win their money. Yeah, but let's say, let's say Chez finished third wins four million dollars. That's taking a couple million dollars out of you know like four if third makes four

million dollars eighth makes one point one million. Third makes a million dollars more than four. He's taking money out of but he also is out. Like he's not gonna do that. But that's, I mean, that's such an issue though, not just for golf, but, you know, that the stars are vastly underpaid. For sure. Like there's so many guys in golf that are overpaid and like not at their true market. But the way that the tours,

like, you know, member run thing works is like they cannot just write these guys at check based on Q rating or whatever. Which is where I think it's another point in the column of Make the playoffs more restricted. Yeah. You know what I mean? I like, I don't even give them a chance

to go on a run and play like two good weeks. And like, oh, I just stole, I just stole three minutes. I either make it super democratic or make it super closed off, could be in like kind of in the middle. And then that's where I think it's like, if anybody would say like, well, the playoffs are too hard to get into,

which I can't imagine anybody would, like dude, you have 45 events on tour. Like there are a lot of chances to- They should be hard, right? Like the playoffs should- That's the problem too. The follow up too. Like 125 guys make, everybody that keeps their card for next year makes the playoffs.

Like that's ridiculous. It's not good. Any changes like this that I would be, you know, if I was suggesting any changes to this kind of structure would weigh over estimate how much I care about what happens at the end of the season. What's the time of McKenzie? Okay.

That is something I do care about. I care about, like it's cool to see somebody like, I mean, I would imagine this is second masters, maybe maybe more than that. I could have that wrong, but he's won one event before, which got him into the masters, but getting into Augusta is something that you're not allowed to mention, especially if you're on NBC, and especially if you're at a PGA tour event, but that's what that putt was basically four on 18.

And I would guess he doesn't dump that ball in the bunker on the 72nd hole. If he, yeah, he knew exactly what that ball in the bunker on the 72nd hole if he, he knew exactly what that for was my point. Yeah, that was. You talk about my guys shot 66, 66 on the weekend at the Honda though. How do you think word gets out to him that they have boards? That's what I heard Max say on on his pod last week is like you can see on the board like you're projected standing stuff. So I would imagine he probably, probably he wanted to know. I would assume. I mean, he bogey'd 17, too. I got what's what would have been really hard. If he'd bogey the last two holes to miss out on all that all that comes with a tour championship appearance,

which is I think it's a bigger deal than whatever monetary amount you're going to he's going to make from the tour championship is a point. You guys want to hear a crazy stat? No. We can move on if you. The score, the band has 4.1 million monthly listeners on Spotify. Is that a lot? I don't know. That's a lot. Yeah. That's way more than I thought. But but that like that is misleading, right? Because they don't do it for the listeners. They do it for the glory. I can see Patrick Rebe and a massive span of the score. Rainy 47 million streams on Spotify. Rainy, I've got great news for most of the commercials. They might have known that they applied those numbers

to Spotify. Great news for both of us. Please, there will be no apologies between the two of us. We had a Rory Cantlay bet. I had Rory, you had Cantlay for the weekend, they tied. I almost feel like we both should apologize for how crappy they played on the weekend. It was a little disappointing,

Roy obviously distracted, a lot going on at home. He does have, it was reported that he has a baby girl on the way, I imagine, if he does play East Lake, I imagine that will be mentioned 20 to 5 to 30 times as well. But I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, that's very exciting news.

Maybe some important perspective on why he hasn't been as engaged in this fall part of the season. I mean, what? All right. I was thinking about this. What if like, is she going to go into labor like this week? Like before the turn of the minute, is it going to be? I think they planted around the tour championship. Is what it sounds like? Is it going to be, but like, he's the deputy commissioner.

He has to be there. But that's what I'm getting at. It's like, Roy's got a very good chance to win $15 million here. Right? I mean, does he? Does he? I mean, yeah, he does. He's what, how many shots? He's seven shots back.

Yeah, but, you know, over four rounds. I don't know. Listen, he has a pretty good chance. That's a tough one. If, you know, she goes into labor on Thursday, are they gonna, I don't know how that's gonna shake out. I think if you have, say, JT's career to date, maybe that weighs heavier than if you have

Roy's career to date. Two FedEx cup championships. Well, that's, no, but that's what I'm getting at. Is he gonna leave? I would say home. I would think without a doubt. Yeah, he would have to. He said, he said he will.

He said he's out there at the first thing. Oh, well, there you go. Yeah. You know, A, I thought the fact that this is remained a secret for as long as it has, a relative secret, I think is a good, kind of look for Rory. Like, no, you know, nobody wants to blow up Rory's spot.

You know, we heard some rumors here there, but it's like, hey man, like it's nobody's business, kind of thing. I was thinking about it last night, I think Rory having kids. I think he's gonna play better once he has kids. I think he's the kind of guy that is gonna, this is just total projection,

but it seems like he, it's gonna totally free him up to like, yo, like, yeah, like this stuff really doesn't matter. I love my kids, like I've got my family life, and like the golf is almost, and he's already had such a great deal of success to where now he's just gonna be freed up. Definitely hope that is the case.

I could definitely see that. Yeah, I'd just become a total like, hey, who gives a shit if I gas this or whatever, he's gonna free him up and he's not gonna pull his pressure on himself pre-tournament, which I think is what's happened in the last two or three years of majors. I think there's definite possibility of that.

Tony Finau, you were a little worried going to this weekend, little worried, maybe the back nine thirty had... Yeah, you guys kind of talked me off the ledge. I mean, I mentioned that to Rani, kind of in confidence, but then we aired it out on the live show that, you know, I was a little bit worried if the setup felt very conducive to a Finau win in that Finau doesn't make a lot of mistakes, I don't think, coming in, he doesn't make a lot of like late doubles or like,

it makes some bad bogies, but he's like, he's much more steady than I think. Of course, I'm raining, I can't quite work. No, it's very steady. What he doesn't do is go out and like, okay, Tony, like you need to go shoot 65 and win, like he doesn't do that, but he'll shoot 68. He's not 65 today, I'm fair enough.

So when he was out of it, he's green light. It was just like what Rory did today. Yeah. Rory was not in the mix at all, and then he makes a couple of late buries, and looks like he's right in the mix, he got a top 10 kind of thing. Fino, I think got reverse crowned by the conditions today.

In reverse crown, like you're saying his round was better than the credit for. I think Finau, Finau needed the conditions to be really, really tough and guys to be falling back the board. Sure. Yeah. Well, I think he needed to play better. He never would have shot 65. Yeah. I think he yeah. He needed to play better the first three rounds, I think.

I think he wasted his like best putting event of the year, probably on a week he didn't actually hit it that good. Like it was it was probably like the putting week he needed to actually win one of these things and it didn't. I don't feel comfortable watching him put. No, no, there's some tough ones this week. Like that is kind of like the whole point of, or the best argument against him is he's not good enough

putter to win these tournaments, which, trying to help you out here with somebody is like, trying to help you build your case here, but no, the case has been built for us. Like, we have nothing to prove at this point. Absolutely. You have everything to prove. The burden of proof is squarely on you.

I've made my bet. He, I kind of was almost rooting for him to win this one, though, because it would have been great fodder for the whole conversation of everyone just threw up and like completely like gave it to him. In a seven-course meal, Tony, like, here you go. We're gonna each bring you one course, one at a time. Here it is.

We wanted him to get the mega playoff. Or to get the playoff. Totally gasp and get back down by one of those guys. He got in the house at minus one, and I tweeted out, you know, like just the super mega-non-threatening 65, you know, to get in the top five, and multiple people replied, with like, I would take that right now.

He is the leader in the clubhouse right now. I, he might be the guy I would take right now. It's like, are people not watching this golf tournament and they're saying how this works? Yeah, we'll give them to you. Sure, he's all yours. Hadecki, honestly. Fina by the way, before we move on,

he was number three in Stokescreen putting this week. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, he said it was good, but it was really good. Yeah. So I have a question for you. Sure. On Hedecki, can Hedecki win? He can, if he puts like that, yeah, he can.

The lag putt that he hit, I don't know if that was on 15 or 16. No one that was like 12 feet short. Then he made the next one. I mean, I like, which, that was one of the worst lag I've ever seen. And I had some bad ones. It's possible he didn't want to hit it too close to the hole. That's true.

That pin was. I for sure have been there. Like just give me a comfy 12 footer. I got a better chance of making that than a four and a half footer. Hadecki gained over six shots around the green this week. It was at truly all-time scrambling performance. I can't recall, I mean, the Sebastian Moon

knows was second with five strokes game. I was blown away at how, and maybe I just haven't watched Hideki up close because he hasn't been crazy relevant the last few years, but I was blown away at his chipping. Oh my God. It was crazy. He was up and down from everywhere.

Ben grasped a powerful thing, man. A rye or whatever it is up there. I don't know what it is. I think it's Poa. Watching, watching Hadecki is so taxing. Like everything just looks like the hardest work. He can shoot 65 and make it look like the hardest looking 65 possible. Whereas someone like Ram and DJ make shooting a low score looks super easy.

Hadecki looks miserable. Ram feels more efforted than DJ. Yeah, maybe that's just literally how they walk. That could be part of it. Yeah, everything was Ram. And it's like Ram's just, Ram hits it so hard, whereas DJ just feels like he's,

there's kind of walking in the park a little bit. DJ's like a free safety in roms, like a, like a, you know, squatty, air and Donald defensive tackle. I wish there was a stroke scheme lag putting. That's how I knew that the putt on 18 was going in. Like God, his lag putting was so freaking good. It's, that's been like one of the weirdly,

one of the things that's blown me away about DJ the last few years. It's just, he'll hit it in bad spots on the greens or whatever, and he just doesn't seem to have a lot of like stressful, stressful come backers. It just seems like he lags it to just dead so often. We did this on a live show last night, but is anybody willing to lock in DJ for Wingfoot?

Cause I'll just lock it in right now. You just might pick for Wingfoot. No, well, I was gonna say, I made the case earlier that I think he should skip the tour championship. You just might pick for Wingfoot. No, well, I was gonna say, I made the case earlier that I think he should skip the tour championship. That would be the coolest thing ever. Because I feel like, it feels similar to, remember the masters

that he basically won before he showed up, but then he fell down the stairs. Allegedly, from the masters. I feel like we're in a kind of a similar spot with this game right now, where he showed up and everyone's like, oh no, like he, he won. Like he's for sure gonna win.

Like there's no question question he's gonna win. And that's, I think how wing foot feels. So I feel like the only thing he can do is just burn himself out at the tour championship. So he should recuse himself. It seems like he's playing really patient golf. I mean, all day today, DJ was like, yeah, like, like, those pin locations,

it was the one where guys were playing at the middle of the green and it was bleeding off 30 feet down the hill. And the right, it was like 14 hundred and forty five yard part three. That was crazy. Yeah, the pin, we'll get into some of the conditions as well. DJ's 11 to 1. Here's my thing with DJ though, like how many times have you thought that, but he doesn't

cash it in. Well he would have won the one year at the Masters, but which was ready to run to the nearest bookie and say like, dude, like, here's my life savings. He bought DJ like some sort of commemorative thing. It was like, hey, like I know you're winning. Will you sign these? Start signing these flags. Yeah. The only major I've ever picked right

since we started doing major predictions was DJ at Oakmont. So I'm going back to the well on that one. Speed, I feel like I should get one and a half for like all the close calls that he said at the Masters that he hasn't won. But speaking of DJ and majors, Randy, I mean, has anything the past two weeks evolved your stance on Dustin? Obviously, you said he's got through this year to win a major. Otherwise, he'd be dead. This was major like conditions.

He didn't even, you know, he played well enough to win and he'd play win. Important caveat, including next year's British Open. Because that's right. That's right, that's right. Yes, but not next year's match. I think the very least you could do is add, the fact that he played so well

for the three hard rounds of this tournament, you should tack on another day too. I know, but I, I, it doesn't count. It's gonna be, it's gonna be a debit versus a credit for Randy because it was an easier day. For sure. but today it's gonna be a debit versus a credit for Randy because it was an easier day. For sure.

The course got easier every day, very disappointing. TC, I hear you, I hear that. There will be no extension. Okay. Basically, win-wing foot is, I would suggest you win-wing foot. Or the masters. Or the masters.

Or next year's, or next year's, or next year's, or next year's. We talk a little limpia fields. But if he wins next year's PGA, the done count, which is at Kioa, practically a home game. How can dead people win majors? I don't they haven't yet. Did you see last year's masters? Do you want to go into the course set up?

This might be a good segue or. Or can I ask a question? Sure. The Olympia field North course. Why does it exist if not to have a tournament there every year? Who was going out and playing that course every day? Seriously, that course is tailor-made for a championship golf course.

Do I think it's a perfect golf course? Absolutely not. What I want to play there every day, absolutely not. It is meant for these type of events. So why is it not have one very, very consistently? Sounds like it could be getting a lot better too. I know they're talking to various architects. It sounds like it's gonna be a sweepstakes in Chicago

as far as renovations go all over the city. Well, I don't know, Zinger has some plans maybe to put some trees back in some of these places. He's gonna turn it into a new algorithm. I missed that. I saw people posting about that. He was just riding for trees. Trees are great. And you know what was that? I missed that. I saw people posting about that. He was just writing for trees. Trees are great.

And you know what, I'm with Zinger. I like trees. On like right on golf courses. Sure. I think some have to have them and then some cannot have them. This is a line for his supertake. You're gonna take both supers, yeah.

No, this is not a supers take. This is purely how I enjoy golf take. I think, you know, I understand all the reasons why a tree removal is good for golf courses. I still think if you can, if you can make a work with trees, I prefer trees. I will meet you there that like two little trees in a place that very clearly like kind of an environment that clearly should have trees has a bare kind of feeling to it. It's all course dependent. Yes, it's very course dependent.

I think if the corridors are plenty wide, if a course is framed by trees, I'm totally okay with that. If the trees are blocking views to other holes, I think that hurts a golf course a lot. I think you should be able to see to other holes. Maybe. I think it makes for more interesting recovery shots. No, I think you should be able to see to other holes. Maybe. I think it makes for more interesting recovery shots.

No, I think what, so that was... A few strategically placed trees. That was a very nuanced, Jay Blassey, the architect chimed in. Very, very good stuff. He said, like it's not about the hole of the trees. It's about strategic trees here and there, you know, properly placed and all that.

And it's like, you know, the fact that if it's just wall to wall trees, you're punching out left. Or right. If it's a few strategically placed trees, you have to hit a recovery shot and then you're looking at double or triple instead of, like otherwise you're just looking

at a bunch of bogies right in a row. Does that make sense? That makes sense. I can see that. I'm skewing, I guess, maybe my personal feelings with what works best for a PGA event maybe. But that's kind of where I'm at, too. And I would agree with Jay on the whole,

but I also, for variety and chaos, I do some kind of like a claustrophobic tournament words. I'm just hitting straight, man. That's why we have Mexico. You're right. I guess we can't have two of those. So I'm horrible at integrating questions into the show, but we do read the questions.

Sometimes it's hard to just, sometimes it's a question to suck, but this is good one. Not really, but I'm working this in anyway. At from Bo-Dev, Bo-Dazafa, let's hope the USJ was watching how this course was set up. This is how a US open course should look and play. Agree or disagree? Like, 30-second answer is like, mostly agree.

Things went really well for them this week though. 20-minute answer is a lot more complicated than this, I would say. Well, we got a pod, you can, you can expound on it. Right, I think like, I think that the current, with the current state of technology, narrow fairways can work for championship golf. Do I think it's the most fun to watch on repeat? Not necessarily, but like, was this better than TPC Boston?

Like a million times out of a million. So, do I think is that 10 out of 10? No, 10 out of 10 would probably be like, how Royal Melbourne played last fall. So, I want to be careful of giving it too much praise, but at the same time, I think this is the best, most realistic option we can have. I still think wider fairways would have been more entertaining.

As long as the greens are firm. Greens are firm. Everything starts with that. Yes. Like shit starts to matter way more. The playing field gets leveled so much more when the greens are firm. And it's like all of a sudden not that much of an advantage

to be super close to it. DJ specifically saying that when pins are up, he's laying further back off the tee to be able to get at certain pins was a very noteworthy thing that is not something Dustin Johnson would say at every tournament. Right. And I think the other distinction would be, they had pretty much a perfect week.

Weather wise. Weather wise, it cooled off quite a bit. So I mean, maybe it could have been even better if it didn't cool off. And if it would have stayed hot and windy because it wasn't windy today. And that's the reason for the lower scores. But biggest thing I think in my mind would be, like the USGA would have altered stuff, day to day, right? Whereas I think everything seemed very consistent and it seemed like everything was on some sort of a slope,

either up or down, in this case it was harder to easier as the week went along, but I think the USGA would have been much more up and down, up and down, where they would have totally cut the water off this morning and the players are so predisposed to bitching about the USGA that they would have freaked out on Friday, and then everybody's defenses would have been up, and they would have made it easy yesterday

and then made it hard on Sunday. So you're saying it had good flow this week? It had very good flow. I agree. It wasn't inconsistent day to day. I know they watered yesterday morning and this morning just to ostensibly keep the greens from dying. The greens aren't gonna die when it's 75 degrees

and not windy and partly cloudy. I have the greens had plenty of bounce today. For sure, yeah. Yeah, but I just wanted to see, I wanted to see something over par. I did too, thank you. I thought I was a good test today. I thought it was, yeah, I thought it was a great

bound test. Sure, yeah, sure. Could have been a great test. Could have been more fun. Yes, better test. But that is a good, as much as we joke about all the carnage stuff, there's a distinct difference between, like we're rooting for that because it's fun to watch,

like it get over the line. And it's fun to be like, like, say, say, say, say, say, it's rolling off the green. This was like a legitimate really good test. I thought really great shots got really close to the hole and good shots got kind of close to the hole and bad shots got rejected in spots.

So that being said, would I have been even happier if it got way over the line? Yes, I wouldn't. But personal preference, I totally, and why you said it got a little bit easier, make sense. And maybe there was nothing they could have done, but I like when a course gets more, like I don't want the easiest round to be on Sunday.

That's fair. Yeah. Yeah. Roy had an interesting quote on, what was, like, I don't want the easiest round to be on Sunday. That's fair. It's fair. Yeah. Brody had an interesting quote on, what was that Friday, I think, saying, hey, like the WGA, like, maybe the USGA should talk to the Western Gulf Association, which I don't think the Western Gulf Association set this up. That's Brody just getting a shot into USGA, which obviously despises. Yeah. But it's like, you know, but on some level, I think that the usj is held to a different standard

Yes, but it's a bit deserved I think like the one Yeah, and so it is like easy Punching for the players now, but I guess the question is if the usj set up the course Let's say we just look at Thursday Friday and we're on Friday night here. We say all right the usj set up the course. Let's say we just look at Thursday, Friday, and we're on Friday night here. We say, all right, the usj set up the course this week. Guys are getting dick-punched. Like they're pissed off. Our guys coming at the usj on Friday night saying like, like, like, this, like, I don't think so. I don't think so. Not this week, not this week. No, no. I think there was what four guys under par, three guys under par. I think people would be like, this is such a great test. This is what makes this championship so

great. This is why we brought John Bodden him or his I think people would be like, this is such a great test. This is what makes this championship so great. This is why we brought John Bodden hammer in. Some people would have been. What do you mean players are? Yeah, players. Yeah, I think players would bitch just some bitch, some would go out and sport at this point. Yeah, some would go out and shoot 78 and they would blame the USGA and that would be fine. But I don't think the good, a, I don't think the, like good big name players would do

that because I think they would play well on a set up like this. And I think the overall sentiment would be, I think the overall sentiment kind of takes their cues from those guys. I think it had total balance to it. There was no whole, no one pin position that like a couple, like one or two bad pins is what sends players over the edge. Like this is unfair. Like the ball keeps me locked in the sofa.

It does eight hours. And that's one thing the tour, tour like doesn't really ever get wrong. It has one pin that just like nobody can get close to it. Can you literally think of one and the PGA tour that they really screwed up? I couldn't they like couldn't they do that every once in a while just to give us a little nugget. But like what's the benefit like from there from their perspective? Like I agree.

I mean ratings and the fan like like that just goes to show you. They don't talk about that shit. They don't talk about that shit. They don't talk about that shit. Yeah. It's an entertainment product. I don't think people are racing to the TV to be like, oh, the pin on seven so crazy, like I got to stop

mowing the grass and go and get in their watches. The players, they can't do that. We still talk about that. We still talk about that. I don't know if the public are talking about that. Oh, but look at the quality of this leaderboard. It's outstanding. The fact, like if the public are talking about that. Look at the quality of this leaderboard. It's outstanding. The fact, like, guys, if you did this more often

and went to better courses, and I get, like, all right, infrastructure and all that, and all this comes back to the ball too. It's like, if you can go to more places like this, you're gonna be able to have a more proper test a lot of the time. You're gonna have a better leaderboard. You're gonna have less fluky winners.

You're gonna have better ratings. Like it's better for the sport. Well, at Chambley Brandal, if I may. This does not put a rest in, like, rest my case on technology doesn't need to change. It's the exact opposite. If technology was different, there's so many more golf courses

that could play like this. And you could, you know, you wouldn't have to quote unquote manipulate. There's just not that many Olympia fields out there. With perfect conditions this week. Yeah, yeah. So.

Randy, you equated it to the climate change, right? I got four really cold days here. I think it's snowing, you know, what's this climate debate about? Could you use a little bit of that global warming right about? Yeah, yeah. What are, yeah, scientists, what are they? Yeah, I don't know.

But yeah, I mean, it's just, you know, it really knows what's going on is my buddy Gary, who's been, you know, he said it's super cold this winter. He was reading that one thing. It's all on Facebook. Yeah, it's just the exception that proves the rule in my opinion.

Well, one thing that I think is probably good, I don't know if we wanna transition to this, is I feel like there's gonna be a ton of similarities with Wingfoot to what we saw this week. That's why I like DJ. Yes, and I mean, ROM, of course. Should be right up there, but I would say, I think Wingfoot, I've only looked at a couple of the flyovers.

I think a little bit wider gaps to fronts of these greens for run-up shots, if it plays firm, would be a little bit, how fun was it to watch 15, the par five, the shots running through that gap? That was awesome. Giving players that kind of option is gonna result in more entertaining golf. And two, I got the biggest kick out of watching dudes

from 150 yards have no idea. Like they made bad swings at it because they were so, they were in their heads. And they were not confident about the shot they wanted to play, the line they wanted to take, how much they wanted to bite off, and that was so freaking refreshing. If they were playing golf versus hitting golf shots. Amen, you couldn't have said that about T-S.

Question for you. If this conceivably, and I blocked out much of wing foot from my memory, but I'm just wondering if this did play a lot like wing foot. And let's say this was for all intents and purposes, this was kind of a US Open this week. I would almost think like wouldn't it be super hard to turn around and keep playing well? I went like, I guess what I'm driving at is it's really hard to do that for four rounds, but to do it for eight rounds in the course of like four weeks would seem a very tall task. That's, I mean, I think that's the thing.

It's like the torch ambience at this point feels like a distraction. I think a good. I think I just and should skip. I think guys would want to rep that that week and then we got to have a week off. It's a way it's going to be a bleak scene. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like, I mean, right now, that was texting a couple of guys,

like enjoy your off season. I want you to get a lot of work done, do all sorts of stuff. Like their off season is one week. Find your passions. Which who knows what's even, I don't, I haven't really read up on the fires and all that stuff.

Who knows if Safeway's even, Nicholson was alluding to it. I know, he was saying, top of the rock, who knows what if it's even going on. But yeah. Wait, that's a fair point, I think though. To your point, grinding out eight rounds over that style of golf course,

but I look at the opposite way of like, you want a playing style that will work on this. Somebody who's hitting it, DJ and Ram hit the ball very similarly. Like, very straight for how far they hit it, left to right, very consistent ball flights. There's no coincidence of those two, that they're playing style ended up in a playoff.

And there's no reason to dislike either one of them for a wing foot. How about the drive Ram hit on, was that like 14? He got crowned by the muff. Well, not the one where he got crowned by the muff. The one after that. At 15 maybe. 15 was the muff. 15 was the muff. 17 for you. 17 and Well, not the one where he got crowned by the month. The one after that. At 15 maybe. 15 was the month.

15 was the month. 17 for you. 17 and then 18 was the one where he drove it into 17 yard fairway. There with the driver and hit it like 330 and landed it on just like dinner table. I mean, shit. The one he hit in 18 in regulation was silly. Looking at wing foot odds, you got DJ plus 1100, Bryce in 1200, Rob 1200, Brooks, Rory and JT at 1400, Zander at 2000 with Laura Kawwa.

I like more. So going back to your take earlier, Randy, Laura Kawwa, having some time to digest the PGA championship win. Didn't play great this week, but I think he's kind of on crew. your take earlier, Randy, Worcawa, having some time to digest the PGA championship when it didn't play great this week, but I think he's kind of on cruise control for a little bit. And it's almost good, because it's like, okay, what do I, what do I actually need to work on?

And the stretch run. Yeah. You mentioned the big golfer in there, and I feel like maybe we need to unpack him a little bit, and as I think we were kind of saying, well listen, we might got a little hot after the Detroit stuff, but the driver has not been necessarily

what we thought it was gonna be. I don't think the last few weeks. He hit 13 of 56 fairways this week, so I mean. That's why I was just looking up around one, one of 14 fairways. And I still, he's still shot, like, what are you saying? 73 or something like that?

I wouldn't, I wouldn't want to hammer that home too much because I think like his whole deal is like, dude, I don't really care that much if I'm gonna be in the fairway because I'm gonna be so close to the green. Now, a firm asset up like this neutralize exactly and is a factor. Do I think Wingfoot is gonna be great for him?

No, do I think Augusta's gonna be great for him? Yes, yes. And that's part of what we were saying. I think earlier was like he's not just driving apart He's driving it really really really straight and some of that has definitely dropped off and over the last few The potters improved seemingly over the last six weeks. Yeah, I think the big fifth one with I think the big thing with Augusta is top 10 on the season. Yeah, there's let seemingly there's less bunkers at Augusta. To right. Like there's there's less stuff like you might be thinking about the green side bunkers. Yeah, but there's less stuff to avoid, angle wise and all that.

You're avoiding one bunker, fronting and green versus two or three this week. I know that sounds very basic, but it seems it seems like he's stripped the game down to basics. Oh, and it's the fairways are wider there. The trees are further back like he's stripped the game down to basics. Oh, and the fairways are wider there. The trees are further back. Like he's his sketchy iron play though. If it is sketchy, wedge play.

Wedge play, yeah. Which I guess he doesn't really hit any other iron. Yeah, yeah. No wedges. I do want to, you know, the big golfer, guys, I was one bad away from the Canadian Canadian from the Canadians Oh my gosh, I won four of the five the big cool the big golfer was the only one that that held me down It's you know so sorry for your loss. I'm still up

Still up quite a bit on the week very cool close to 400 on the week very very cool. Cool. Super happy for you You guys want to get to some other stories and please wrap it here. We had Sophia to 400 on the week. Very, very slow. Cool. Super happy for you. You guys want to get to some other stories and please wrap it here. We had Sophia Popov on the, of course, the winner of the women, the AIG women's open last week. Had her on the pod. This past week talking about all the emotions. She was an absolute blast.

If you have brilliant. If you haven't listened to that, please go back and listen to it. I think that's legitimately one of my, that's maybe my favorite of the year. It was exceptional. I'm glad to hear that. I was that's legitimately one of my, that's maybe my favorite of the year. It was exceptional. I'm glad to hear that. I was.

Great job. I found that she was extremely likable and easy to root for. Good life force. Yes. We did not know as of the time of recording. Maybe she knew and didn't say anything, but she did not get a five-year exemption out of it. I think that we thought she got a five-year exemption out of it.

I don't know if that was a surprise to her, but apparently you have to be an LPGA tour member to get the five-year exemption for winning. It's my name. It's going to be an LPGA tour member to get the five year exemption for winning the New York New York New York's feet. Guys. Mike Wahn took to social media to address the question of how she's not in the ANA inspiration and why she didn't get the five year exemption.

It was hard to describe this statement. He was very assertive and said like, we're not gonna change regulations. This has happened before, personally, I do think is a different situation. If it's a symmetric tour member than an international player. If a player... If anything, you want the international player

to come to your... Well, I would just say like, like she's one shot away from being an LPGA tour member. She is trying to be an LPGA tour member. Like, she's made every effort. Like, now she's proven her ability to be on that tour. So why shouldn't, why wouldn't she get the exemption? I think in his statement he even said like,

is this something we'll look into in the off season? Yeah, probably like should we view some editor-players differently? So I think he kind of agrees that the system is probably not great. The answer's not great, but the same time he's like, I'm not gonna change the regulations, which is totally fair.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, so I think last year, the Japanese woman who won her... Shibuno. Shibuno, she did not get LPGA members, she'd rather... But she chose. But she chose.

Okay. She, correct me, got him. He was getting out of my depth here. But she had a choice, whether to join the LPGA. Gotcha. But that's a good question, whether choice whether to join the LPGA. Got you. But that's a good question, whether it was to join the LPGA and get the five-year exemption

or maybe just to join the LPGA and she declined. Knowing that she's just gonna keep she's gonna stay on the Japanese tour for now. Juan gave examples of other players that have won majors and not gotten the five-year exemption. Five-year exemption. So speaking for this example, that was the situation. I saw the one thing with such a cool example of like, as stupid as it sounds, just PR.

Like if the LPJ would have issued a statement, and said, we hear you all on Twitter, but we don't care. And we're going to stick to the rules. Everyone was so up in arms before this is bullshit. I can't believe that Sophia is going through this. This needs to change now PJ tour players are tweeting about it and then one comes out instead of releasing that statement Basically just says that statement in a very human way Just hey guys. Here's what's going on. I hear you. This isn't good. You know, we're gonna look into it

And but here's how here's why it works Okay, pretty you know pretty hard to argue with Mike Watt of this one. That's pretty interesting. Here's a way to hell, big J would have ever come out and done anything. And it's just, it's just, it's just super cool to see that. So good for Mike Watt. Well, as one, a person who literally would said both of those things that you just said in those two different voices, I, to me, it's, it felt like a mistake though in the beginning.

It felt like a bylaw mistake that could be like, hey, we are now saying some metro-tor players get this exemption. All the COVID shit going on, shit is, it's a fluid situation. Like I would have thought he could have been looking into it with what he said. Like, is this kind of wrong?

Yes. And I thought he may say that we are making exception right here and going forward here is the rule. And he answered why he didn't do that. It was hard to argue once he came out with that statement of like, all right, I'm with you. I'm on board. You know, this is the situation. Just the fact that you see who's making the decision and why and all that.

I think the. It goes back to a different question with the LPGA is like, they do have some very, very, very strict and. Inflexible membership. But they've made exceptions, right? For Lexi Thompson, for Lydia Coe, like to become professionals before you could have be at a certain age, that's why I thought

like something would happen. No, I just think, I think the LPGA needs to, probably get with times a little bit more on some of their priority rankings and eligibility stuff as far as that stuff goes. Cause it seems like there's other stuff floating around that like it's very, very hard to get an LPGA tour card if you're not going through this one funnel

that they're sending you through. Which sounds familiar. Austin Ernst wins the event in Arkansas as well. Brand of the pod. One of our favorites. Oh my gosh, she's so nice. Has just the best accent. Firecracker.

Yeah. Second career victory, very, very happy for her. She had played, you know, she had a really good women's open week. We've said that she's our favorite PXD troop. That's right. Yeah. And just a couple more notes.

I was looking for Maria Fosse to have a little bit more consistency. She did. 67, 67, 67, yeah. And just a couple more notes. I was looking for Maria Fosse to have a little bit more consistency. She did, 67, 67, 68. That was good to see, good for a tie for 15th. That Northwest Arkansas tournament seems to be a good one year after year, just as far as the support they get and all that stuff. Our young, header, Lauren Kaufland, tells me she's close. Missed the cut by one.

Did not put, well, the first six holes or so and was kind of beating herself up. I got to be honest on this next one, you guys said we should add the champions tour to the agenda and I was like, what happened? Champion tour. I got a fill one.

I'm like, oh my God, I thought that was, I thought that was 21 days ago. Things move quickly. But don't let the champions tour, like don't let that deter them. No, no, no. From having these Monday, Tuesday Wednesday cause great.

Yeah, this last week or the week before I forget when I said it's like the LPJ tour, Cornfairy and Chambers' tour should be fighting for Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday night broadcast right now. When you're not hosting people, you don't have to do all, basically, all tournament sponsors want to be able to host

hospitality on weekends at tournaments. You're not hosting hospitality at tournaments right now. It's all of a TV product. Do it like the Bahamas corn fairy events do. They are a tourism based event that is like, hey, come look at our golf courses on TV. Let's see that in at 21. I don't know when we're gonna have fans.

Well, really? Scott Piercey thinks we're gonna have fans very soon, but it's possible. Looking at the champions tour though, this would give them free reign to have pro-AMS on a Sunday, which might be the cheat code for them, right? That's a really good point. That's what I was gonna say is that, you know,

I know so many things are set in stone with contracts and like the way these golf courses work, like you can't just, you know, hey next week let's do Monday through Wednesday instead. But even as you're building your schedule for next year, that's what I'm saying. Think about it. Yeah, I don't know.

It's gonna be really interesting to see how they build out these schedules as we get into Q1. And, you know, I know, we're, heck, we were watching the coverage on Friday night over here at the Kiles and the Dominican Republic event is gonna have like they're advertising fans on TV they're advertising tickets That was one of their TV commercials. I just be a very old commercial I do not want to rule that out But like at what point do do these tournaments?

We're starting to get down to decision, know, some of this stuff in January, I felt like, you know, like, like, as far as buildouts and... All even just like selling pro-AM spots. I know. That stuff must take so long for these events to do. So... And the crazy thing is, like, champions tour in Cornfery, they're having pro-AMs. Are they?

The only tool that's not having pro-AMs is the PGA tour. Really, I didn't know that. At least I know that I know the champion's tour is happening on 95% sure that one very tour's happening. I don't think the events would exist without it. I was going to say the cost benefits. Yeah, yeah. Phil looked, I mean it was complete.

It was a complete alpha job. It was child's play. It was. It was so fun to watch professionals play a course that is like not a, of course, it is not for professionals. It is a lot of sweet. Looked awesome. It is a, it is a answer to a question, which is, hey, this beautiful resort course that

I would play or have played or I've been there or want to go there, what would proshoot and the answer is really low. And it was awesome to watch. It was, it was a core crunch all on this video. Yeah. And it feels basically saying like, like, center line bunkers do not matter. And Phil's also saying, I want some reps before Wingswood.

And he's playing quite literally one of the wideest. Of course. Is he playing this week? Is he playing the Fuzz? They're off for a week. I thought they were going back to back. It makes it back. It was the week before this one.

This was the second I'll see it out. It already had that. Yeah, okay. We missed it. So they're off a week. First time hearing this. His plan, what is, as of now, to play Napa the week before Frankfurt? He's used to that New York, uh, California. Can you back and forth? I would think maybe if Napa gets canceled, depending on the wildfire situation, maybe he plays the champion sewer event the week before wingfoot. But I really want to get. He literally could hit the ball anywhere.

Like he looked good, but it was like, oh yeah, like just hit it anywhere. He also, for a guy who's kind of been dumped on for a lot of his career for his, his physicality, Phil looks like he's like 37. It looks better than ever. He looks really good. Yeah, let's just, let's just say that out loud. It was really bizarre to see him with his aviator shades on putting clubs back

in a golf cart. Yeah. Yeah. That was weird to see. His putting looked really good now. Yeah, you know, I can't tell you maybe it's just easier greens. I don't know.

So does this make you feel a little bit wistful that it didn't happen, but that he was gonna skip the US senior open? Cause I was gonna be his debut. That was his first eligibility, right? I mean, the results for Phil on the Chamber Store don't really matter to me. I hate to say it, but like, I don't know.

If he wins the US senior open, that will do next to nothing for me personally, as a golf fan. I mean, I feel cool to see, but still a lot of money and feel cares about money. He does care about money, but it's also like, it's kinda cheat codes. When you're the youngest guy out there

and like you're used to play, like it's gotta be like, it's like, you play with a, you're in the on-dex circle playing with, you know, swinging the weighted bat, and then you go, take the donut off. That's like one player, Chambersaur. It's like, yeah, I'll play 6, and then you go take the donut off. That's like one play the champion store. It's like, yeah, I'll play 6,700 yards, whatever it is.

Phil versus Petrovic didn't really give my, it didn't really give my chances. Yeah, but what if it's fun? It was fun to watch the back nine, but it really didn't give me guys. Yeah, but what if Phil comes in, and says, you know what, fuck you, Bernhard, you're anchoring, it's fuck you, McCarran, you're anchoring.

I'm in the new Sheriff in town. That would be sick. If he starts completely disrupting everything, naming names, all of them. All of them are in the end. And Hale Irwin's records, they're out the window. There's a new Sheriff in town. I'm trying to make all the money.

Guys, we've lost the plot because do you just have a distraction for everything? Like, we don't want him playing Champions Tour. We want him taking Fowdo's seat. Okay, so it's not that's encouraged this. Sorry, Randy. No, do you guys know how much money you won? 400, 400 grand. Yeah. 450,000 dollars. Bigger checked than he got in in months, right?

I think people are saying that he would have had to finish fourth or better at BMW, which spoiler alert, he was not finishing fourth at that golf course this week. I don't think. So yeah, he's making a business decision. I I was gonna say it was probably just a good investment to go play. Next year's US Senior Open site, Omaha Country Club, home course of Danny Woodhead. That's right, really. That's right.

Yeah, Woodhead. And I know, I know Phil's a big charter fan too. Wow. So, there you go. Mark the calendar. There you have it. The Big Woo Woo won the Corn Ferry Tour champion. A Big Woo Woo. The little, the little, little woo woo. Somebody wrote. Uh, the big woo woo won the corn fairy tour champion. A big woo woo.

The little little little woo woo. Somebody wrote in here the big woo woo. Oh, I didn't know there were two woo woo. Well, they're C. Woo Kim, who's, you know, a major championship winning the players. I didn't know you guys referred to him as the big woo woo. For sure. Oh, uh, but the, uh, the little woo woo, Brandon Wu. Randy, it's only in the morning though.

One. That's a throwback video. One on the corn fairy tour this week. The tour championship. That's right. Evan's, Evan's villain here. That's right. Vic, Vic from No.

Victoria National. It was, you know, it's not the same. It's not the same in August as it is in April or May. Squares are like two shots, three shots lower per round. And there's with no cards on the line. That's obviously not the same as well. Rasmus Hoegard, the 19 year old Dane, wins the UK championship, completing a fine rookie season on EA Sports, Tiger Woods 2012. He won at the Belfrey.

He's had an incredible run here through the UK swing. I missed the playoff, apparently. Do you want to talk about the Cyprus swing? Oh, the Cyprus swing. There's two European tour events that have been added in pace on Cyprus. Aphrodite National or something like that. So I went there in like spring of 2017

or something like that. Never been, I mean, people lived on Cypress, on Cypress for like 10,000 years. And it's like an archeological gold mine place. And we went there, a sweepstakes. We went and stayed in this town called Payfos Poffos. I don't know if I'm saying it right. It was one of the worst places I've ever been.

Like it was like a 1960s slash 70s, like run down British vacation spot. It was like dingy arcades and it turned out they're having two tournaments there and back to back weeks, I'm absolutely stunned. There's some really great shipwrecks along that coast and it's a really cool, I doubt many of the players will make the trip

to the non-sovereign country of Northern Cyprus, the northern part of the island, which is if you wanna read up on some crazy stuff, that's... So, all right, so they're going from crazy, crazy good stretch here. The Euro-Torps schedules, wild. They go, Andalusia Masters, Portugal, Portugal, Wingedfoot, Irish Open, Scottish Open, BMW PGA, Scottish Championship. Italian Open, they still don't have a course for that one. That's October 22nd to 25th.

Then they go, the first Cypress Open is against the WGCHSBC. And the second Cypress, tournament is the Cypress Classic, also at Aphrodite Hills. And then the Capstone. And then the magical Kenny open. And leading in to the masters. The fact that they didn't have a tournament on one, like because Cyprus is divided, right? There's Cyprus and Northern Cyprus. Yeah, there's no, like literally Northern Cyprus

is like a non-recognized country. I know that would've been sick if they had like the Cyprus. I don't want the golfers like that. Like the Cyprus open and the Cypress closed over on the other side of the surface. It is a militarized state that we did cross the border over and two that was and got some very strange looks when we toured that place. That was Cypress's wild. That was absolutely cool.

All right, it's finally time. Hold on, hold on, hold on. No, you're delaying the end of the game. No, no, no, I'm not delaying anything. I'm begging for this discussion. I think there's some other things. Matthew Fitzpatrick, T6, I don't think we mentioned him. Come.

Great, Gritty Grindr. Randy. Home game. Yeah, home game. Completely comfortable this week. He was standing in his own dorm room, right? That's right. Brendan Todd, shout out he was standing in his own dorm room, right? Brandon Todd chopped to him T8 on real this week, Sebastian Munoz graduate of my program. So all I had like to congratulate you,

Lonso Griffin T10. So he's gonna give it away late there. He was creeping into Scotty Shuffler territory and another guy who's had an excellent season that I'd like to give props to, Ben on. He really is. Ben on's been poking around a lot. He's been around a lot. Can I mention one name that you haven't rattled off yet? Yeah.

And let me say there's no bigger house in America that roots harder for Leech than this house. But seeing Leech shoot 30 over the week after someone shot 30 under is among the most unbelievable statistics I've ever seen in my life. And I just want to point that out and get that on the record. The age leash made two birdies today. Dennis, his swing coach is stuck in Australia. He cannot get out of the country due to COVID regulations. I wouldn't wish that upon anyone.

Of course. Obviously he's won this year. He's got a solo second this year at Behill. Leesh is comfortably, comfortably into East Lake. Which if you're not playing... Maybe no bigger damnation. If you're not playing good, this is the nightmare setup. Like if you're not, he doesn't drive

it straight to begin with. This week, I was talking to Maddie. I'm like, hey man, is this a good thing or a bad thing that you guys, you got four rounds in the course to work it out, but like if you're 30 over, do you want four rounds in the course? work it out, but like, if you're 30 over, like, do you want four rounds in the course?

So I give him a lot of credit. He shot, I think, 73 today with two birdies. And yeah, I mean, he's just searching. I feel bad for the guy, but also, like, I feel like one leash. When he plays like shit, it forces him to put in the work. And then he comes out on the other side better than he was already. Oh, that's okay. Brian Harmon, you, you, you, you,

did you take a columnist skinhead? Well, he just shaved his head and it's jarring to see. He had the best flow in the world. He had great hair. In high school. But then he like got deep in the male pad and baldness, like I think it came on really quickly. Possibly due to the mega core pat.

Who knows what mega corpse pumping in, they probably got some microchip. And then the last thing that we haven't talked about is the muff And we haven't done hamster damn yet. That's true. We got a lot to get through here What do you want to do? I mean that that could be one of the same well so the mo zinger kept calling the right on 15 the muff He's like, yeah, he's hitting it in the moth. There was some weird shit going on there. And she kept getting bounced out of the moth.

A couple of really lucky breaks. Again, for every time that he showed Ram's penalty, like, oh, this might cost him a tournament. Dude, he just got a shot right back. It all went into the trees and bounced out, and he made birdie like that. That happened like three people back to back to back. Somebody hit it so high up into the trees.

It was like an upper deck shot at time. I can't even stadium. Try to get in the muff. And then the muff just completed rejected it. Throat back. Everyone was chanting throw it back. Prophyl-Actix. SungJ and Alex Nord played up 14 today.

And I don't know what happened. They hit trees off the tee or whatnot, but they both played up 14 today. And I needed to see a replay of that. But hamster Dan, we can keep this somewhat brief. I felt like Tommy Roy got kidnapped. Because it was, I think it's a 15-seconder per person. I saw you yield all my time in advance.

Disappointed, didn't have flow. I felt was strong early in the week, and then got to the weekend, and it was an ad fest. It was too many ads. It was a lot. I was expecting more from NBC. They do it for the glory though. They do do it for the glory. 15 seconds. TC. I felt like Tommy really got kidnapped by Lance Barrow this week. There were no overhead shots.

There was no context. Early in the week DJ said he really liked some of the context shots as far as some of the weird angles that they were showing and the relation from one green to the fairway and like that. Honestly, I thought it was a disgrace. They've clearly not. Here's all. Just too many commercials. It completely kills all the flow.

That's when the gas leak comes in. I wish there was more on the ground stuff to show the undulation in the greens because I feel like we got that once and it totally paints a different picture. So I'll say, no. I'm gonna give CBS credit. Then I'm definitely cutting your mic off.

So I feel like CBS had more handhelds, and especially around the greens and all that, I feel like there was more. Do you know what a hard camera is? I knew more about what the actual slope of stuff was doing. I don't know, I just felt like CBS was, like CBS is trying now at least. It didn't look good because Lance Barrow was still,

he's not capable of even doing a split screen, but the fact that like he's gone now, open mind. We're open mind and moving forward. You're done. Moving on, moving on. This is like, NBC mailed it in this way. This is gonna be a complete preview

of what the discussion we're about to have. Let's do this now before segments. Okay, I'm gonna give you guys a chance, but I'm gonna warn you. We need some backstory. We need some backstory. How do we get on this subject? We'll get the whole thing,

but I'm gonna warn you, you better come to the table within apology, with the formal apology, and here's why. Well, I'm gonna apologize to you. No, no, no, apologize to you. Yeah, you will apologize. This comments came on Friday, somebody had tweeted something like, is the, is Olympia Fields the Midwest course

the USGA has been looking for? Yeah, someone asked Rory, I think. Oh, Rory, I was gonna say it, Rory said that. Rory's tied in here, he's complicated in this too. And somebody brought up Oakmont being. Brandy brought up Oakmont. I said, wait a second, don't they play the US Open at Oakmont like every five, six years?

And so we got into a heated debate is Oakmont slash is Pittsburgh in the Midwest, okay? And it resulted. Sure is hell not in the Northeast. It resulted. He said you need to stand there. You need to stop. You're worried, you're bastard,

you're the words are wrong already. Yeah. It's not as Pittsburgh in the Midwest, it's Pittsburgh Midwest. Yes. Very distinct words matter. The words were posed, we're gonna get there, okay? Yeah, sure.

Oh yeah. It's Pittsburgh, the words you've posed all along the way if in the completely signed off on. Don't get riled up, this is what they do. They're just trying to bait you. No, I'm gonna, like, absolutely put you in a grave here if you don't come to the table properly here, okay? So the question was, is it more Northeast or Midwest?

We ran a Twitter poll with you guys in agreement. Correct. That it would be settled. We've run multiple Twitter poll. We're gonna get there. We ran a Twitter poll. Is it more Northeast or Midwest? And the results came back resounding, is it more Northeast or Midwest? And the results

came back resounding 62% said Northeast over Midwest. Honestly, I think we'd like to go into those results. We're thrilled with the 30% than we are. Then you should be arguing that it's a midway. You guys should have expected that pollsters were saying you guys should have expected a 75 25 landslide. And here's what I'll say about that poll. It seemed to me that a lot of that 62% of people were made up of folks who, let's say they live in Oklahoma. Let's say they live.

This is so fucking subjective. Not in Pennsylvania, surely. And a lot of the results were the opposite of that also. Because it got pretty quick out of here. Sorry, I got a hundred. And so they were thinking, is, you know, I'm in Oklahoma. Yeah, of course Pittsburghs in the Northeast Well because Oklahoma's a Midwest well, let me I got news for you Oklahoma. You're not in the Midwest

You're in the Southwest In the plane let's not get into this no hold on hold on and then I think the other big factor and there's two other big factors in play here A people want to dunk on TC Of course people were taking to Twitter to vote purely against TC There's two other big factors in play here. A, people want to dunk on TC. Of course. People were taking to Twitter to vote purely against TC, which is disgusting. And I would say anybody who's lived in Pittsburgh and then got on to live elsewhere, resound, they said, TC and Randy, you couldn't be more right.

Of course, except for the people who were man. Kevin Moore, your strategy coach who lives an hour just outside of Pittsburgh as I pointed out. And if you would like be away in on the Southside of Chicago and what the cultural feeling is like there, I'd be happy to do that. I would be right there. You're from the plains. You're not from the Midwest, DJ. So you're from the upper plain. Here's the whole conversation. I don't say people are very against Ohio. Ohio is in the Midwest. A lot of the Midwest, a lot of the people that,

that was the other thing, people from the screen. You want to apologize to me and I, and Illinois and Wisconsin were like, yeah, but Ohio is not in the Midwest. Like they had a full district with a lot of them. And Pittsburghers were like, we hate Ohio. We don't want to be considered the Midwest because that's what Ohio is.

But that's great. Can I underline it? We, based on the election that we won at least grant me 15 seconds to lay out my case and don't fucking interrupt me once. As I know, I've been interrupted all day. Hasn't tried to say this. Hasn't happened in podcast history. Here's the conversation.

Here's what it boils down to. If you ask me, is Pittsburgh in the Northeast? I would probably say no, it's not. I would probably say it's in Appalachia. I would probably say, no, it's not. I would probably say it's in Appalachia. I would probably say it's in a different region. The West, no, that's not a region. None of these, the clothe, it's not a region.

Yes, it's not a region. It's not a region. None of these were on the table. Okay, so the question was, with a gun to your head, is it in the Northeast or is it in the Midwest? We won that election in a landslide. It's so obviously Northeast. When given those two options, that this is such an open and shut case and anything you

say here to four is complete, you guys refusing to acknowledge it. I can make it twice as bad for you, DJ, because they wouldn't accept the results of it. So I said, okay, let's include all four regions. And I will bet you that the Midwest comes in last. And you guys said, sure, how do we phrase it? And we came up with the words together. This was purely an anti-TC vote. What you're about to say.

And it was nothing more than a referendum against TC. And you know what you guys say. He believed me. You know what, sure as hell won't happen is that, you said the Midwest would get more votes than the Northeast in that one. And you said. No, no, we said the Midwest would not come in last. They did come in last, but you also said that Midwest would get more than

Northeast. Hold on, no, no, we didn't. Oh, and I think we did. The Midwest got to 19% the biggest takeaway from that one. That poll is null and vote 67% of people. We had 21,600 votes. 67% of people said had 21,600 votes. 67% of people said that Pittsburgh is not in the Northeast. And 81% said it's not in the Midwest. You're not winning this.

This is the case. That poll is bad because there's no way Northeast beats Appalachia there. We could, what did? But that means it's, you got to throw it out. It's a bad poll. We could all get on the same page right now, I think, if we said, is it in Appalachia?

I think we don't say yes. Maybe people have said it's the Paris of Appalachia. I think Drew McGarry said that, right? And I think I would sign that right now and put all this behind it. I would compromise that by still thinking it's more Midwest than that. And that's fine.

Nobody cares about the second part. It's so much more like Cincinnati and Pittsburgh are, or like their fraternal twins. Oh my God, this is so much for our students. No, no, no, we're here for the Apollo. So I'll answer the question. Is, is Youngstown, Ohio, in the Northeast? Is Youngstown, Ohio, in the Northeast?

Uh, I'd have to look at a map first of all. I don't know exactly. Well, I don't know what it is. I have, I've never been there. You haven't seen very reliant upon maps already. I've never been there. You grew up like an hour and a half from there. I've never been to Youngstown. This is, you and a half from there. I've never been the youngster.

This is your dish. You're putting up a smoke screen for the fact that we bet on this. We bet. And the bet was if the Midwest came in fourth, you would make an apology, a formal apology on the podcast. Okay, all right. I've given you every opportunity.

Sally, I will make a formal apology. I'm willing to join you. You apologize? I apologize. I apologize. I'm willing to join you. You apologize? I apologize. I apologize to my fellow Americans that the US Census Bureau, you know, this regions are completely fucked up.

And I apologize. We didn't listen to Miss Teen South Carolina 13 years ago when she said some US Americans don't have maps. Yeah. Apparently you are those US people. Or the two guys that we're sitting with are overlaid, relying upon very geopolitical lines on maps and ignorant of you keep on

Staying attitude and everything. It's never been a Pittsburgh if you go to Pittsburgh There's nothing there's not a thing about Pittsburgh that is northeast if you go to If you go to Austin, there's not a thing about it that screams like Texas. So Austin is a barbequeer. Austin is a West Coast city through and through. Yeah, it's part of the West Coast. They're throwing at these distractions out there. We're done.

I think T.C. and I are sorry, we're not sorry. Yeah. Yeah, I expect. I formally apologize for not being sorry. You guys are a complete disgrace. For the right person to take them, I trusted you guys. I did, that not being sorry. You guys are a complete disgrace. For a short, I trusted you guys. I did, that was my mistake. I believed you guys when you made a promise.

Oh, the fact is, like anybody who, like, do you wanna introduce the Instagram poll? Like fill it out, yeah, the Instagram poll. No scholars are even recognizing the Instagram poll. No scholars are even recognizing the Instagram poll. No scholars are even recognizing the Instagram poll. No scholars are even recognizing the Instagram poll. No scholars are even recognizing the Instagram poll.

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It's a spectrum between Midwest and Northeast and it's more on the spectrum towards the Midwest. And that's- If anything, it's an apple-adjusted. Quite literally has been proven. It's not for great lakes. All right. You know, like it's similar to Cleveland.

You guys are disgrace. We're done. You hate to see it. Oh, and by God one. I hate to see these guys scoring these gummy poles and this scummy people, low information voters. All right, I'll go. I hate to see, we were prepping for this pod.

Randy didn't know who Minwuli was. I absolutely did not. And then he jokingly asked if he was related to Minjeelee. And we said, yeah, that's his sister. Yeah, jokingly is probably fair. Maybe more cheekily, cheekily. Yeah. But you were legitimately shocked that they were.

I had sister. Literally like that guy in the LG TV commercial. Just like staring at the screen was my reaction. I got to just tickled me. And that's in a similar vein. The other thing I hated to see this. God, that guy's the best. Listen to the trap draw this week.

We got a great episode. Special guest. Special guest came on. He absolutely detonated Randy. Which that was premeditated. We did not back channel at all. I'll show you our texts. Okay.

It's all right. I had, you know, I hate to see Leach playing like that. Very hard. We all did. Yeah. I guess soulful. I hate to see it. Do you want me to go?

Please. Of course, you know, for my personal brand, I hated to see Rom make that 66 foot winning putt in the tournament as two days after I told the world that he stinks. That's tough. I think further than that, we set our peace in the Pittsburgh discussion, but I'll leave it at that.

Very cool. That's very, very, very strange. Sid, you hate, like, what do you hate to see? other than that, we set our piece in the Pittsburgh discussion, but I'll leave it at that. Very cool. That's very, very strange. So do you hate, like, what do you hate to see? Just the res, the, what he's getting at is that hate to see that we fucking lost them. No, all the votes. I believe. I, you know, twice.

Randy, I just feel let down by the people of. Earth? Of, of, of, of, of, yeah, exactly. It's just a total let down. This is a total like, you know, maybe it's everybody else who screwed up, not me. I'm right. I've been living a faster,

the completely different reality. Fast majority is wrong. You know what you guys should've done? This sounds like you're bored of life. He's about to get fast, get him a coke. No, get him a coke. You need a hot dog or something man? What were you talking about?

You know what you should've done? You should've begged for votes. That's what they've been, that it helped you to get that stuff done. That's good. That's right, they did do that. No, I was, I was, I'll throw you a bone with my done you should have begged for votes that have been that have been that helped you to do it today all that's right they did do that no i was i was all three a bone with my you hate to see it to as as an olive branch this is something i know you hate to see uh... which is that rounds of golf are just massively uh... in twenty twenty oh my god thank you uh...

that was after being down this is the national golf foundation it is well listening we don't have any other number we don't have any other numbers. We don't have any other numbers. They were down 16% year to date in April when all the courses were closed, which is pretty expected. Even despite that, they're up, I think 20% overall year over year.

So a lot of golf courses doing a lot of things to get people out there. Many people are saying it's the return to golf. It could be the return to golf. I think it is the return to golf for a lot of people to get people out there. Many people are saying it's the return to golf. It could be the return to golf. I think it is the return to golf for a lot of people. And that's kind of my point is it's kind of a rub of the green situation as well with like people having much more free time and much less other recreational activities, opportunities. But hopefully golf keeps some of these people around, especially the big I think there's

reading the National Golf Report, National Golf Foundation report. There was a lot of interesting things about junior programs, has a lot of soccer programs and football things and baseball things are being wiped out, gymnastics, like all kinds of stuff like that are being wiped out. A lot of these junior programs are thriving, I think, you know, in earnest take,

that's probably where it kind of a massive part of the next generation of golfers is going to come. And so hopefully keep those junior programs bucking because you got kind of a massive freebie here. Yeah, PGA of America, USGA, local golf associations, like get off your ass and do some resources and some like critical thinking behind how we take advantage of this rather than just like, oh, sweet, that's a freebie.

And not only that, like, I've seen people bitching on Twitter about, you know, like four sums just popping onto the course first round. Never like, yeah, like don't, like, don't be a dick to these people, but also like, you know, like teach him, yeah, teach him what to do on a golf course or how to play or what, you know, what etiquette is too. And also, it's on all of us to teach the new commerce because it's good for the game. And also if you're a ranger, if you're someone like that,

like, hey, keep moving, man. Like six hour rounds isn't gonna be good for anybody. So explain what's it's taking. Got many, many, many, many messages. I'm winning hearts and minds so the Strength of the Game Initiative. It's too crowded. It's too crowded.

Rubber the green. I'll keep mine quick. I would say Ram's ball bouncing off a tree on 15. I mean is that everybody's back into play Yeah, making birdie to win the tournament. That was pretty normal. That was my turn by them off That was my rubber the green too. Oh, you know what my rubber the green George Russell. Oh, yeah, we'll get to F1. No, but but that was my rubber the green, George Russell. Oh, yeah, well gets F1. No, but that was my rubber of the green. He got knocked out by a completely irrelevant fucking team. Positive rubber of the green. Alpha Romeo should not be in Formula One. They bring nothing to the table.

It's disgusting. Positive rubber of the green though, he said the halo saved his life. That the tire hit the halo above us. Goes both ways. Yeah, so. My rubber of the green is the pizza guy, tempotrovic, he shot 18 under this week out at the Ozarks,

which would have won just about every other champions to our event. And it's lost by four. Raina, do a very tan bus, a carpet, bag, or a roll. So box Sunday, and he shout out, so you guys want to give. I'm unprepared for this. So I'll yield my time. Yeah. So box Sunday, I shout out to you guys want to give. I'm unprepared for this, so I'll yield my time. Yeah, so box Sunday, I would like to say, Randy and I got a lot of backlash about the Chicago Paui did.

I just want to say Chicago pizza sucks. Chicago sell pizza sucks. Deep dish pizza. Yeah, like, Lumeau Nadi's is not good. Once a year, maybe. 20 year, exactly. See, I don't think it sucks. I just don't think you can eat it off.

Chicago should be known for its hot dogs. Chicago pizza is really good. The non-deep dish style pizza. You can get really good-ass pizza in Chicago. So I just want to say all the people that said, we had JB on the podcast. He was great. He was a great guest.

People said we could have gotten a guy connecting through a hair that had better hair. Have you ever gotten more vitriol for a guest? Yeah, I, Kyle Porter from Memphis. We got a lot from Memphis, but there's just not many Memphis. He's a lighting rod though. The Minnesotans were low key hostile because Megan doesn't live there anymore.

I had a setback Sunday. Please, I had a lot of things on my list, but what really sprung to the top was after the golf was over today, we were kind of waiting to do the pod and flipping it on channels. Randy put it on America's funniest home videos. AFV is what I, the kitchen called. Sorry, rebranded as AFV. We're watching. We're also watching Cannonball on NBC.

On NBC, which was sick. And that was good entertainment. It was not getting hit by big inflatable things and trying to not fall in the water. That was wholesome entertainment. AFV, as it's now known, was a complete disgrace. It used to be like, just 38 straight minutes of just dads getting hit in the crotch, you could set your watch to it.

That was good stuff. Now it's just like, oh my kids in the swing backwards. Ah, that was just the problem. What a misunderstanding. It used to be Bob's Hacker. Now it's Carlton, which is my whole other thing. And that I feel like there was like a great schism

between these, all these shitty TV shows that nobody really watches, or I shouldn't say that. A lot of people watch them, I don't watch them. Where I think Steve Harvey took all the really good ones, he hosts like 40 shows, and I feel like Carlton got all the shitty ones, because he seemed like he hosts everything. Carlton sucks. Carlton sucks, that's exactly what I'm getting at.

And so Randy, I don't know if you have any rebuttal to that, but I thought it was a total disgrace, and it was kind of a bullet in one of my finer childhood memories was sitting back and watching that show. I'll just say this quickly, Campbell was horrific. I think everybody involved in that show was the biggest loser I've ever seen. Even Rick, the old guy.

He's a first responder. No, not even Rick, especially Rick, the grandpa. Like, dude, just don't. This point to see the Miz involved with that. Miami. It was horrendous. What's the name of the one on CBS? Tough as nails, which Randy said is like the precursor

to the Hunger Games, basically, is just normal people doing like very normal jobs and very blue color jobs. Turning it into a competition. Randy, how do you feel about undercover boss? I don't watch these shows. I do watch the murder porn line up on CBS. And CIS. Every time I dead gravey.

See this? Yeah. God. You guys are always so scared in this country No, that probably covers mine. How much do you think Carlton's making from all of it the PGA towards over a year? How much do you think they they pay him? It's probably not that much. It can't be that much I Mean shit seen what some of these champions to a person's are who know who knows like like Carlton could be pulling down

600,000 a year. Not that much, because he'd be in the tax returns. I didn't see him in the tax returns. But he's talent. He could just be floating up into another budget. Me. Which, will you get deep in the tax returns already? Yeah, I don't know if I'm trying to get, I'm trying to recruit some folks with much more

expertise than me. Okay. Some friends and accountants. Yes. Okay. We're coming for you. For me the Okay. Some friends and accountants. Yes. Okay. We're coming for you. Formula One. It's time.

If you're waiting for golf talk, we're done. We asked, we got to one question. That's a record low. Tide for record low probably, but we're already an hour and a half of golf. That's plenty. Formula One Lewis Hamilton wins the Belgian Grand Prix. Foulsue Boat Toss finishes second. Tiger type stuff.

Merkle in one, two. Yeah. I mean, it's just a staff in second. Tiger type stuff. Merkel in one, two. I mean, it's just a step in third. The Hamilton stuff, of course, not that either of us have a great history of F1 to really draw on here, but it feels like when we were doing the Tiger, like kind of retrospective pods

when COVID first kind of started bucking on our podcast schedule. And hearing all these ones where it's like, oh, he won that one? Like, yeah, I just, I must have just like turned it off and just like went and played golf or something. I just assumed he was gonna win. Yeah, that feels like where we're at.

It was unbelievable. We were the first five laps. I'm like, all right, this is, I think I kind of fell asleep for a while. The announcer is Crofty said, if he carries the lead literally into turn five of the first lap, he's gonna win. He was right.

And he was excited. Dude, how spot on are the announcer's, he's gonna win. He was right. He was excited. Dude, how spot on are the announcer's down? That's unbelievable. They're crazy. Like, they just get all, for how? Golf's probably, I don't know if it's harder, or easier to announce, but like, how often golf announcer just get shit wrong?

Like, oh, this is left to right, and it goes right to left. These guys like, don't miss on all the pit strategies, and this guy's going in for this. This is a bad strategy. This is good blah, blah, blah. The safety car was bad timing. Bad timing.

All right, I was hoping for a second safety car. Yeah, either zero safety cars or two safety cars. I know. People reach out to us and they're like, hey, we want some analysis. I'm like, I don't have any analysis. I'm just trying to enjoy the race because I don't know shit about it.

I'm in the same boat as everybody else. We're gathering data. My analysis would be regurgitating what the announcers are saying because I'm like, oh yeah, that's a terrible strategy. That guy Karen, oh he's the best. Like he needs to be on more because I feel like they just use him as kind of a...

See, the guy who's always in the stands. Yeah, that's great. I think he sits on the team radio though. And I think he buzzes back in like, hey, I got this now. He's like the spotter. I think so. on the team radio though. And like I think he buzzes back in like, hey, I got this now. He's like the spot. I think so. He's awesome.

Yeah. I mean, there's just so many freaking elements to it. Like the, I don't know. Spa was, I thought spa was very cool. I especially coming off of Barcelona, like, you know, really the first time I've seen it. Barcelona was a fuzz. And spa would be what?

Like, see if I can have some more angles to it. Like the best kind of like reiner. Ross. Yeah. It's big. Um, long track, for only 44 laps. Yeah. I would like you to address racing points exceedingly crappy day. It was a disappointing week. Sergio Perez, interesting pitch strategy, Lance obviously underperformed. Um, obviously, he's the right word because yeah, yeah, it obviously underperformed. Obviously, it's the right word because, yeah.

Is it possible they can't play really golf courses? Would you like to? Would you like to just bomb and gouge? No, no. Oh, no. I love this. Yes. That's exactly what it is.

They're going to be asking Martin next year. Did they play great in Belgium? Begging to get on the squad. Especially with Vettel. Vettel's coming over to the squad. Oh, he looked great. Yeah, he's getting off his sinking ship. It's Scuderia Tonka.

Or Scuderia Tora, they're red. It is like, they're riding the lawnmower down there. They're driving dumb trucks. I've weep for Charlotte Claire. I thought they were both gonna take each other out on purpose so they didn't have to race anymore. Because if George from Williams didn't get knocked out, he was absolutely beat.

He was beaten one in the first. One or both of the four. Seeing Charles LeClaire go toe to toe with the two horses was tough. Who is Charles LeClaire? Shaul-caw. Shaul-caw. Going toe to toe with the two horses was a tough look.

Can you explain your land oh hate? Yeah, he's a fluffer. He's like a rich man's album moving on period. I will apologize for album. I think I was riding really hard for him just saying he needs, you know, just give him a good qualifying spot. And he's going to prove himself. He had one and got beat by both the Redis this week.

What is it? It feels like things are not gonna be, it's not proportionate this year, right? Cause I mean, Lewis is gonna win the title, like going away and the gap between one and two is gonna be enormous, but somebody's gonna get second. Like Albon's in fourth right now. He's the fourth best.

And like it is a top three in everyone else every week and Albon should be fourth. And I feel like he's still under achieving and he still couldn't have fourth in the championship. And he's, oh, he vouched he both tosses in third and Albon has less than half as many points as Boatas does. He has no shot at third, which is where I'm interested and will, you know, confess to being a complete novice like the rest of us that I'm interested to see how the different tracks change,

you know, who performs outside of those top three. Which was Renault today. Exactly, that's where I'm getting it. Like, Ocon finishing fifth day was jarring. Like if we have more of these brainer courses. I was more of these brainer courses. I was more of these brainer courses. I was more of these brainer courses.

I was more of these brainer courses. I was more of these brainer courses. I was more of these brainer courses. I was more of these brainer courses. I was more of these brainer courses. I was more of these brainer courses. I was more of these brainer courses. I was more of these brainer courses. I was more of these brainer courses. I was out qualifying they were better cars. I don't know how that's damning for landau You're you're a massive McLaren homer. I think land is a really good driver Listen I do too. I just don't really like him. That's fine. I mean I can respect that

I just wanted to hear you say he's a good driver. Yeah, he's a great driver that you don't like him I I certainly understand that all right So so going back I think at some point, I mean, Hamilton's 157 maxes 110 bonuses, 107, and then the next closest is Alblanc. So I think the question is going to be, is Merck going to have a strategy that is going to allow Botos to beat Hamilton in a race to secure second place? Secure the point. Right? Protect the point the point. Or do you think at some point, that was the most shocking part today was, if that race goes on two laps longer,

it would have been, I think the pitch strategy would have changed. Jan Ricardo is on the podium. It is on the podium. I think Max would have pitted if the race would have gone a little longer. I hated seeing Cyril express in any sort of success. No, I love Cyril. I hated seeing Cyril express any sort of success.

No, I love Cyril. I like Cyril too. I think I can get down with McLaren next year. Am I joined the Zach Brown Band with you next year? Awesome. Ricardo and Landau would be gone. My son Freddy, yellow cardada, yellow card. He loves Ricardo.

Well, he's gonna be in for a world of disappointment next year. And last thing I feel like we just need to shout out Pierre Cadillac. I was gonna say, when like we just need to shout out Pierre Cassidy. I was gonna say, when are we gonna get to? Okay, Pierre. Okay, Pierre. Pierre keeps punching above his weight. Yeah, driver of the day.

Which I think they'd go to and not have to really Ricardo should have been the driver. He was on a bad strategy and was in fourth and it was like, all right, dude, this is not gonna work out for you, but it was some good racing. I think. Monsa in two weeks.

Yeah. Ferrari going to Monsa, driving the dumb trucks around Monsa. Everybody said Rena was gonna be quick at Monsa. Apparently their straight line speed is really good. Is that the tempo of speed? Yeah, it is the tempo of speed. Why don't we wrap it at that now? We will.

All right. Last thing. Last thing, guys. Rumors have it. Nico Hol. All right. Last thing. Last thing, guys. Rumors have it. Nico Holkemberg. Hoss. Hoss. Hoss.

Roman Grojan, who somehow still has a seat with Hoss is going to be no longer with Hoss next year. But where do you think Sergio Perez lands? Because Vettel's definitely going to raise him. Right? I couldn't tell you. I like Magnuson, but if I'm Haas, I can clear out both drivers.

Yeah, I agree. Gunter, gotta make a alpha decision. Although I don't really like the Hulk, but I would take Checo in a second. Yeah, either way, I just wanna say, I think that the Matiagai for Ferrari is a total disgrace and fluffer and like he should be out of the sport. You may very well be if things continue this way.

They might try him at the Hague. Reminder this week the Torch Championship starts on Friday and ends on Monday. It does really? When your app is not... Oh, literally first up here. When your app does not... They're making the volunteers work and extra... They're making a holiday, no less is that right I assume that was right now that your

reaction has be questioning it but I'm almost positive well no it's Friday Monday it's because Monday's Labor Day I can oh my god I can confirm that that sounds right but that's I'm the only true patriot that knows their national holidays that's true. I will also say we've got a ton of people It is Friday's Randy and I are big Tour de France fans Hmm a ton of people bitching about the commercial load on NBC Sports network for that the Tour de France. So we're monitoring this situation. That is officially rap. We'll see you next week. Cheers! Bye! Get a right club. Be the right club today! Now that's...

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