No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 350: Tour Championship Recap

Episode Date: September 8, 2020

DJ triumphs at East Lake, and we breakdown the end of a peculiar season, take a bunch of listener questions, gross vs. net championship, the weird avoidance of the money discussion, East Lake, the upcoming sweepstakes of majors, Formula 1, and so much more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah. That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most. Pai is here. Hello, Sal, I'm thrilled to be here, man. What do you do it for? Money. That's it. That's it, man. Not the story.

I'm just here so I get paid. That's it. Not the victory? Nope, not at all. Listen, how are you, man? I'm good. I got a lot to talk about. I don't think it's gonna be straight crying in bitchfests.

No, I just become very trendy to dump on this one and we'll dump on it a little bit. But you know what, there's some positives to take away as well. And yeah, I'm sure we'll get to all that. Just the two of us though. It is. It's just the two of us. We had some travel going on currently.

You know, a lot of people asking us how we're gonna spend our off season, which, yeah, we got a lot planned, actually, a lot to squeeze in and just a few hours. Tron could not be here. We're doing an event in Tennessee this week. So he went up there for that earlier, but he did send through, I don't know if we want to call them trunks takes. I don't know if we want to brand them somehow, but we'll sprinkle those in throughout the throughout your broadcast here.

He didn't get it done today. And he's like, uh, but Zander, Zander, he sure, he played great this week. Great all season. Most notably starting in Hawaii. He was the first Callaway staffer to game the Maverick sub-zero driver and he nearly went back to back at the tournament champions from there, continued the great play over the course of the season. I, when I think of Zander, I think of the extremely strong iron play and the very consistent right to left ball flight. That was bolstered by his Apex pro 19 irons that he actually helped Calaway prototype and bring to life. How about that? I bet you didn't know that.

When I think of him, I think of his dad, but we'll get into that too. In the shorter part of the bag, Xander's got the fan favorite jaws wedge and the classic number seven shape on his Odyssey putter. I have both of those as well. Top it off with the Chrome Soft X 20 golf ball. And that is the equipment recipe to be one of the players, the one of the top players in the world and clearly somebody who enjoys playing O'East like that was a trendy pick coming in but you guys had to sweat it a little bit

I almost a little bit I had JT also so I wasn't making you sweat it well you were the one taunting so that was a reason you would you would be You know sweating in a bit based on his finishes over the last few years there I can understand why people were picking him and why he had a great week. So for additional detail about what's in his bag, visit calwaygolf.com slash sander hyphen shuffly. That's calwaygolf.com slash sander hyphen shuffly. Also really quick before we get going. Last week on the precision pro ad, I said NX7 like five times, we're in the script and

quite clearly we are using the NX9, which you'll see upcoming in Taurus sauce. So I want to give a quick solid regrets the error on that one before we get going. Very cool of you. It is very cool of me. So where should we start? I would say truly one of the, has to be one of the best days in the history

of the American jet ski industry, with Dustin Johnson winning $15 million. What a thrill. I mean, it's hard to, we're gonna get into what the hell all of this all actually is, what it all means, whatever it is. You have a hard time convincing me someone could win it more decidedly than Dustin did.

And I'm willing to propose this. Gosh, I thought I'd make it a lot further before I proposed changes to this. If you win all three playoff events, you win the whole, no, you get the whole FedEx cup purse. That's sick. I'm in on that. Who was the kind of like flashback thing we were doing on where they had the Florida prize?

Or if you won all the events in Florida, you got like a race. Oh yeah, race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race. Race.

Race. Race. Race. consecutive events on the Florida swing, you got a bonus of like $250,000, which was like 4x, what the winning prize was. Can you imagine if coming down the stretch, it was what, $70 million? Everyone's rooting for JT, like dude, you got a birdie this whole man, like DJ's gonna take 70 million, I'm supposed to win four for finishing in third. That would be absolute,

well, he wouldn't have because he didn't win BMW, but the point still stands. He basically did. So the only person he got beat by in three events was one freakish, like 60 foot putt that happened to go in. I didn't fact check this, but somebody made a really good point that if it is accurate is a very good point

that DJ letting, I'm using air quotes here, letting Ram win helps him win this week because if Ram didn't win, JT would have been in second and would have, I mean, DJ ended up winning by three, but it would have been much closer. I mean, down the stretch, if, I mean, again, it's butterfly flaps as wings in the past and who knows how it actually plays out, but that's somewhat interesting. That seems like fodder for the broadcast. We're like, you know, everyone thinks Dustin's just a Seaball, hip-ball guy, but you know, really he planned this thing out three weeks ago

by letting John Rom win the BMW. What were your big takeaways today? What are you, what are you burning on? I'm trying to stay as positive as possible. So my big takeaways probably wouldn't be where I would want to go next. I kind of want to just, I don't want to immediately turn to Wingfoot, but my immediate takeaway is like, that was really cool, man. Like, great golf DJ. Like, that was pretty special.

Second at the PGA, wins Northern Trust. Second at BMW, wins the Torch Championship. It kind of doesn't mean anything unless you win the US Open though. Like, whose fall would you take? DJs or Colin Moore Cowas? Right. No, that's, that's extremely well summarized. But yeah, that was kind of my big one too. I would applaud the tour for the format change. I again, people like to dump on the strokes and the staggered start. And there's a couple of things to dump on with that. Most of the fact that DJ gets an official PJ tour win

when he literally started the week at 10 under par. That's pretty fucking stupid. Beyond that, it's more fun to watch. It's nice to know exactly where everybody stands, you know, watching on Sunday. It's nice to have all of those things, but yeah, especially, you know, before that back nine on Sunday, like this week, it just,

there's no real, you know, nothing, no real gravitational pull to the telecast. It's a lot of just like, man, DJ is still playing really great. Like, hopefully he can, you know, what's it going to mean for Wingfoot? What's it going to mean for Wingfoot? And that's a tough draw for the tour championship, just having the schedule kind of shake out the way it has this year, because obviously that's not usually the case. But with a major 10 days away, it's hard to really get up for for anything else, especially if you're going to actively ignore all the money that they're playing for, which we can

get into here in a second. Question from Jared Lewandowski. Did the two-stroke advantage and format overall prove to be too much for an event like this, especially given course and conditions? Definitely felt like most players in the field never had a chance.

I don't know if that's totally true. I mean, they didn't have to make... You just kinda made DJ play really well. He made it feel that way. It is extremely, and I don't want to zoom past this. Like, yeah, you can say it's done that DJ gets a win for starting at 10 under, but I already said that. You can.

You are welcome to say that. You can't zoom past like sleeping on the, like having that much pressure, being in the lead. Like JT admitted last year that it affected him. And DJ is the first one of these to close it out to go in with all that pressure on your shoulders, expectation that you should win 15 million bucks and actually do it.

I think that's worth of a picture win. We should point out the shadow leaderboard, the OWGR leaderboard that they keep zander, first place at minus 15. That's, so this, Scotty, real quick, Scotty Sheffler minus 12, Dustin minus 11, JT minus 11, Tural Hat minus 10, John Raw minus nine, Moorak Dustin minus 11, JT minus 11, Tural Hat minus 10,

John Raw minus nine, Moira Cowell minus eight, the rib minus eight, a couple other. What was the weekend Saturday Sunday, leaderboard at the BMW? No. Who won the weekend at BMW? Who won the weekend this week?

You can do the shadow, people are way too obsessed with the shadow leaderboard. That wasn't the format this week. No, no, I'm with you. I know with you. I'm running to the people, right? Yeah. Guys, stop asking about the shadow leader board that wasn't the format this week. No, I'm with you. I know with you. I'm running to the people right now. Guys, stop asking about the shadow leader board. When they do the Dell Technologies match play,

does anybody go say, okay, who was the most under par? Who would have won the stroke play this week? That's not the format. We get all this stroke play all year long. We get a variable, a different tournament at the end. And all anybody wants to do is talk about the 72 whole tournament, the tournament score. I don't understand.

No, I'm very much with you. I don't love, I guess you got to do something, but like the way the OWGR stuff shakes out is kind of weird. I'm okay with that though. Like that matter because all the guys are in the top 30 anyways, and there's probably not some like major massive swings going on, but that part kind of weirds me out a little bit,

but I guess you gotta do that stuff, so. But the OWGR is a measurement of golf and like how you are doing on the golf course against other people. Yeah, but that changes a lot, whether you're out of it. It doesn't, it doesn't. And that's where we were talking about this

before we came on and this is a very admittedly dumb, sports talk radio take, but I also think it's the right take that I still think Dustin would have won. I know he didn't shoot the low score this week, but I still think he beats Scotty Sheffler and Zander if they start from scratch. I don't think they, I'm shooting from the hip completely, but I think it's a lot different.

Prove him wrong. It's a lot different mentality when you start the week seven back and you're just firing, firing, firing, firing. Like then it is starting from scratch and going out and beating the guy who has almost won the last three weeks in a row. Like I still think Dustin would have got it done. So I think that there's a strong argument against this format because with the old format, you had a secondary story there,

which was who was winning the actual golf tournament. If a bunch of these start playing out like this, where it got close today, it did. It really did, but for the, I mean, DJ was an overwhelming favorite to win this thing from, I don't know what point on Saturday or Sunday until obviously until he did, at least, in 2018 we had the Rose and Tiger thing

going on at the same time, which was confusing for people, but at least saved some reason to watch. Like if DJ would have been up four or five coming down, it would have been a specially tough watch. I would say that with DJ coming into the fun around leading by five, that was the most exciting it could have gotten.

Yes. You know, I think that was almost like the best case scenario. So to the Justin Rose example, I agree a little bit only because Tiger won probably, and that kept it interesting, but like I legitimately had already forgotten until just a couple days ago, and we were looking to subbed it like Justin Rose

won that FedEx cup, and I don't think that's the point of the FedEx cup, and I don't think that's the point of the FedEx cup. And I don't think that's the point of FedEx spending all that fucking money to do this. What's funny is that replay was on the other night and he walks, you know, he taps in to win it, he kind of turns to the camera like, sorry guys, I know who you're rooting for.

And I was like, dude, actually no one really cares who wins it. We got to see Tiger win the tournament, man. That's, yeah, we could feel like we've got a whole Justin Rose, why does Justin Rose Erke you podcast that we need to do with a few? That would even hurt me that much, I know what he was trying to be. He was trying to be like, no, but that's exactly it. Yeah, we'll save it for the other podcast, but yeah.

Yeah, that's not works, not my thing. So I don't know, is the format great? No, is it like a good band-aid of like here it's simplified for the people and here's how things are going to fall out and there's a ton of money still at stake, even for the guy that doesn't win? I think it works fine. Now, what doesn't work for me is if you're going to actively ignore

the amount of money that they're playing for on the broadcast. Yeah, which I think that that was probably done in reaction to... For sure. ...some of the charity stuff and like everybody's taking a hit except for the players this year that's involved with professional golf. And so I get why they would do it from an optics standpoint, but also like the amount of people who are going to connect those dots are probably far fewer than the amount of people who would be interested in knowing that Sanders putt was for a half a million dollars or a million dollars on

on 18. If you're that embarrassed by the amount of money you're paying out your players that you want to keep it a secret. Maybe that's the issue. Even when it's not a secret, like it's publicly available information and everyone that follows the game knows that this is happening. Yet you want to treat the viewers like that that's not important and that that's not what they're playing for and that's not what's happening. Like the case, the point of yes, it's COVID,

there's people being laid off, the the torrentous laid off people, you know, people at home that have lost jobs and blah, blah, blah. Like that, that is 100% the reason. If that's the case and if that's how you feel that way, then more of this money should be going to the charities that are being shortchanged right now. If you're that embarrassed by it, that you basically keep it a secret, or try to keep it a secret, and these two true internet sleuths sitting here

are pulling the top off this story, that $70 million was paid out, or whatever it was today. I just don't get that such a short-term, bandated strategy. And it's, it's the, of the three possible things you could do. One is tell everyone what the money's for and pay it out. To ignore the money and still pay it out. Or three, do something you are proud of, like say that, you know, however much percent of it is now going towards charities and then tell the people what they're playing for as

well, that everything but no option two works for me. Yeah, it seems. Option three would have been most ideal, I think. Yeah, it would be, I don't know, I know I'm being way too idealist maybe, but it just seems like such a no-brainer that if you just took it, you know, if you just took 10% and said like, hey, 10% coming off of every place this year. And here's the reasons why these people were laid off.

This charity was short-changed. Balbalah, here's where the money's gone. We're going to make it a big talking point during the week. Like, that just seems like such a home run. And if you're not willing, I guess, to kind of... And maybe there's a bunch of like procedural reasons that can't happen. I'm trying to give like every benefit of the doubt here, but like make players bitch about that.

You know what I mean? Make the players back. This is bullshit that you guys are not, that you guys are short-changing me and giving it to charity. This is fucking stupid because you're gonna, otherwise those same players are gonna go out every single week. Like, you know, we're just helping the community so much, man. This is what it's all for. We're we're we just, you know,

that's really why that why we don't pay taxes is because we're just doing such a force of good in the community. And it's just got to, it seems like it's got to go both ways. But the term, I'm not a great vocab guy and I actually looked up the term disingenuous before I tweeted it. I was stunned at how well it applied, which is not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does. Like everyone, they kind of hinted at near the end

and they finally dand-hicks at the end, was like, said Zander's pile on the last hole was worth half a million dollars. It's like, it was so throw away though. And it was so like, well, we gotta it. We got to, we got to say something. You got, you can't make this whole season, the season long race for the FedEx Cup, which is just a money dump. That's what it is, which is fine.

You can't do that all year long and then ignore it at the absolute moment when it actually comes to matter. And last of course, people do it for the glory. And which brings me to my next point, maybe. This is the story that hasn't, that they've been told. This is the story. Well, been told. This is the story. Well, so we tried to tell the story.

We misattributed the band before we get to that because I know it's important. Listen, it wasn't the greatest finish today, you know, but it was, I would say it was a solid finish. So I don't wanna, I don't wanna abuse the term great. DJ, I want it. It was exciting to watch them win it. I don't wanna, my point is I don't wanna abuse

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Kentucky, 47% alcohol by volume. Elijah Craig reminds you to think wisely, drink wisely. All right, we have a big may of a couple on your end here. Yes, I had wrongfully attributed in, I believe last week's podcast, the glory song, you know, for lack of a better term to a band called The Score. I was blown away that it had 47 million streams. I didn't think something, you know, something couldn't have been right with that. And it turns out something wasn't right. Shout out to an eagle-eared listener

who shazammed the song and found out that it was not by the score. It was actually, and the only reason I'm bringing this up is because in true, you know, class acts tour fashion and in true year of 2020, fashion, it's by a band called the American Gentlemen. And so I just want to give a shout out to the tour for choosing a band that couldn't have been more of gentlemen throughout to voice, you know, give a voice to this, this season long race. And so I just wanted to give them a shout out. And it

turns out it has 1900 streams, not 47 million, as had been previously reported. You were really close. So Mayakulpa on my end to both the score and to the American gentleman. It didn't sound right when you said it. I know that's why I was so blown away. Right.

I didn't hear any other corrections come through until today, actually. Now a lot of score fans out there. Not a lot of people auditing, anything that is said on the auction. Not a lot of people auditing, you think they said on auction. Orgents, not a lot of people listening, but, obviously, as well. That very well could be it.

There's a couple of dust and things I still think we would need to talk about. Let's unpack it. And let's kind of, you know, you mentioned the money stuff. Let's get that, you know, just out front here. First place, $15 million. Second place, $5 million. Second place, $5 million. Third place, $4 million.

It's gonna keep going like that for a little bit. Fourth place, $3 million, two and a half million, 1.9 million, 1.3 million, 1.1 million, 950K, 830K for 10th. So that's a lot of money. There's a lot of money going on. Really all four of these weeks, Lavner tweeted, did you see this? I did. The number that Dustin's won over of money going on. Really all four of these weeks, Lavner tweeted,

did you see this? I did. The number that Dustin's won over the last four weeks. Like 18.4 million or something. 18.7 million dollars over the last four weeks for Dustin Johnson, which is roughly the same. Career earning stuff is always gets unfairly used, but I think this one's pretty fair.

That's the same as the career earnings of David DuVall. Former World No. 1, David DuBall. You got to remember this is a pre-Fedix couple. This was it. Yeah. That's the point of the whole thing is, man, you got to play your golf at the right time in the right era, apparently. I got really deep in like the career FedEx cup bonus money leaders today.

Oh, it's unbelievable. You know why? You know why I did, because they ignored it so much that I was like, all right, this is now the biggest story of the day. I was really hoping and DJ kind of blew his opportunity at this. Anything but a win today would have put him above several people that have won the FedEx Cup in career FedEx Cup bonus earnings without having one one. That's see, like, that's a legit impressive stat. He was knocking on the door. VJ is the lowest ever with 11.2 million and he won 10 million in the year that he won at N08. So could you, I guess I made it easy

for you to venture guesses as to who the top 10 are and could you could you do it in any kind of order of who the most FedEx cup money in their careers earned. Yes, I could. Okay. Well, Cat has two. So I'm going to say he's number one. He is not number one. Roy is number one. Roy is number one. So, third number one, Cat's number two. 30.9 for Rory, 28.4 for Tiger. Probably JT after that.

It is not, well, it is now DJ. All right, okay. Now DJ will be at like 25.9 million now. That's a lot, man. I've just like, just9 million now. That's a lot, man. I've just like just straight bones. Just money. Shadow money. Yeah.

Man. 11 million and shadow money before today. That's gonna be one of the weird, you know, I don't know if anybody cares about this, but that's gonna be a weird thing going forward when people look back at like career earnings from this era is like, none of that stuff will be counted.

Well, now it will be. Now I just mean I like the PJ Tour website. Like if you go look at someone's like career no, no, that stuff will be counted. Well, now it will be. No, I just mean on the PJ Tour website. If you go look at someone's like career earnings, none of that counts. But it has to now, right? Because you get 15 million for winning the playoff finale, right? So like Rory and DJs, that's gotta go to career earnings, right? That's interesting.

I don't know. I should have looked that up before I started off. Actually, there is, and I just found this too, there is a FedExCub bonus money page within the PGA tour. It shows 2019. Actually, yeah, that maybe I may be wrong there because it says Rory Mackery got 15 million in FedExCub bonus money last year. So you got zero for Wagas winning the, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I do feel like Gloria. That's true. I forgot about that. Beyond that, just a couple of DJ things to shout out. The drive at 18, I feel like they didn't make a big deal of. Sorry, did you want to finish guessing on bonus money? Oh, sorry, what number are we on, five? You got through three. Well, and then DJ and then JT.

JT is actually behind three other guys whose first names all start with J. Really? Yeah. Fieric? Yep. Jordan? Yep.

And... Justin Rose? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Then Henrik, then Snettaker, Billy Horseshoe, Bill Haas. And then now Phil is the most, actually Zander probably is now. The most FedEx cup money ever earned without winning it. Yeah, it's definitely Zander now.

Zander's got over $11 million in FedEx cup money in four seasons. Wild. And it seems like all accounts, you know, kind of point to this bonus money going up even more over the next few years. So good shit. Keep the PGL away as best they can. Should we do some of Tron's takes?

Yes, just to wrap up, we were saying though about like the money, you know, the money going to the players and not to charities. I think a good case could be made for the tour to say like, yo, now is not the time to be short-changing our players. For the long-term run of golf, PGA tour golf, and charities and that money going to them,

like, please just trust us on this. We need to pay our players right now. That's fair. I would listen to that. Yeah. So to be fair to them. Well, yeah, and that's kind of what I'm getting at. There's a million reasons why it probably shakes out the way it does.

And 70 million reasons. 70 million reasons. Why it probably shakes out the way it does. But it's just as soon as you want to play like the optics game of let's not even bring it up, it's like, dude, that's got to go both ways. That's what makes me up. That's why it got me all worked up. So, go ahead, you had some trontics.

We'll just kind of sprinkle these in. These are very bullet points. I haven't really read these. So I don't know what we're gonna get ourselves into. And if any of this is legally objectionable, these are tronts takes, not my take. First one, East Lake equals soulless disgrace. This tournament has stunk since the first year

they had it at East Lake in 98, lacks any juice, nobody in Atlanta cares, even when there are fans, boring layout for tournament drama. Have it on the fucking West Coast in prime time at some point. juice, nobody in Atlanta cares, even when there are fans, boring layout for tournament drama. Have it on the fucking West Coast in prime time at some point. Tour continues to lead sports in strokes gained lack of creativity. I think you could soften that, but I don't know if you can really argue with maybe the crux of what he's getting at there.

I think it's been decently exciting since they switched the Nines. Basically it is, it concludes. What's exciting about it? I mean, Rory and 16, that was pretty awesome. Rory, hold out two years ago, when he won it. Literally. Couldn't tell you, but hold out on 16. Like that was a long call.

That was like four years ago, I think. That was in 2016 as well, then. Okay, that was, I don't know, I thought that was really interesting. Last year was kind of somewhat boring. 2018 was obviously awesome. Yeah. The cat. Yeah, I don't know, I thought that was really interesting. Last year was kind of somewhat boring. 2018 was obviously awesome. Yeah. The cat.

Yeah, I don't know. I think it's, I do think it. Of course it's going to feel extra dull with no fans. Like 30 players with like all these pretend stakes at, you know, all this all this, all this fake drama hyped up around it is of course that's going to feel this dull. And I think that my farewell stink. Well, I feel like it's kind of a two pronged stinkage because I think that it stinks on TV,

but I think it also, I think like so many other golf courses we talk about, it's a good tournament test, right? I mean, I feel like the best player wins there. There's nothing fluky about it. It punishes bad shots. I mean, the feel like the best player wins there. There's nothing fluky about it. It punishes bad shots. I mean, the rough seems a little absurd. Like, even Dustin said that in the post-rounder where he's like, yeah, I mean, you think you're like

driving it great. And I guess you're not, because the fairways are so narrow, so you're kind of, you're still hacking it out of the rough. Like, I think it becomes a little bit of a crapshoot, especially when guys, that really hit me today, when guys are just like cheering, when the ball gets in the bunker,

it's like, okay, well then I guess we should take out all the bunkers, because that seems like the opposite of the point of a hazard or penalty area, whatever you wanna call it. But I think on the flip side of that, you're always gonna have pretty good competition, just because you have the best players, right? I mean, it's always gonna be seem probably a little artific artificially exciting because you've got big names and all that stuff and I think it would probably feel like that on any golf course and I think if you went to a better

more interesting golf course it would be better and more interesting I guess would be my take yeah I think it's very pga tour like I don't think it's worse than a lot of golf courses, and I don't think it's really better. I think it's very just kind of middle of the road tour. I thought the pins were actually really excellent today. I did too. It was super interesting. It was cool that there were bogies out there. Yeah. It was cool that even beyond, if you drove it off the fairway, you could definitely make bogies.

We saw a number of... God, the Bermuda Rough, we should talk about that for a second, was just completely not ridiculous, but it was just soul crushing. that for a second. It was just like completely, not ridiculous, but I mean, it was just like soul crushing. Rory shot on Saturday. And Bryson's today. Yeah, Bryson. I don't know why he was doing it.

Rory's was, I mean, yeah, I, literally this happened to me earlier this week in like the summer Bermuda, a ball of wrestling, Nestle down so far, that I hit a seven iron, about 20 yards, with like a full swing. And so like when Rory did it, I was like, I know everyone was doing the one of us,

it says he did it, but I was really feeling it. Like, all right, that is a relief to see somebody, to see that happen because balls that settled at the bottom of thick ass permute-or-ruff, that I totally agree I find extremely boring to watch and pro golf. Like I just don't think, like it's truly limiting guy's ability

to hit really good recovery shots, does not make for great television, I don't think. And that's what I had in my notes was East Lake does a good job at the things that you totally can't see on TV or the things that are like bad on TV, where it's, it looks on TV, it looks like dead flat, just like really extremely boring walk, and it's not, it's a really cool piece of property.

It's up and down and crazy, like lots of movement going on out there on that property. You can't get any of that from TV, so that kind of sucks, but I also doesn't seem like it uses it all that well. It's basically just hitting a lot of T-Shots like down the hill or up the hill. I don't feel like it plays on the side slopes very much,

which kind of sucks. And there's just nothing crazy. You don't ever see balls banking out there or anything, nuts, it's just like hit this very narrow fairway. Sometimes we're gonna go downhill and sometimes we're gonna go uphill. So that and the really thick rough is just like not super fun to watch on TV.

And most people are chunking into the water, which is sick. I will say they mix in short holes very well. I think it's got some interesting. It's a hole that have gotten short because of technology. Yes. Yeah, not overly lengthening.

There are holes that are essentially driver wedge if you want to try to pound a driver down there, but there's enough risk in doing it that not everyone is taking advantage of them. And the short holes have some bite to them. They're not gimme birdies. There's definitely not g Burdies out there. I think that it invites a lot of different playing styles into the picture.

Yeah. I think that's fair. And I will say that, you know, to Tron's comment about, uh, have it on the fucking West Coast in prime time at some point. Agree. I think many, many people would agree. I'm sure even some people at the tour would agree with that. I think part of the very obvious challenges

Southern company and Coke are both based in Atlanta and that's why they're in Atlanta. Like that's it and I don't even think there's anything really all that more interesting like in Atlanta to move it to. So I can't imagine like what does it cost to have, and maybe this is FedEx, I don't know how this breaks down but to have the whole back nine commercial free, that's FedEx and Southern

company and Coke putting up some pretty good amounts of money. And that would be really hard to go just like find elsewhere and say, thanks guys for your sponsorship for 20 years, but we're going to go move it over here. Or play the tour championship like this. And it ends with eight people that qualify for the match play part of it. Like a tack on at the end. I saw this circulating on Twitter a little bit this week, a couple of people out there would pass this off as their idea. This has been my case for about five years now. That gets rid of all arguments of like, oh, a match play doesn't draw great. blah, blah,

blah. We can't switch tournament from stroke play to match play. We have this sponsor that wants us to do this, this blah, blah. No FedEx is not going to argue with you if they get extra golf out of this and they truly get their own head-to-head match play for all the cash. You can make it all about the cash at the end and you do it in prime time during the week at the end of the season. I mean, it's a little tough when you start your next season, literally a few hours after it, but 64 hours, I think, is what Justin Ray said. If you had this week dedicated to watching the playoff

of the playoffs, I would watch the shit out of that. You can handicap it in that the one seed starts four up, the two seed starts three, you can do all these things. It's kind of hard to say having just been like, bludgeoned over the head with FedEx Cup stuff for the last three weeks and the weird start. And it's weird to know what my appetite would be for like, more FedExCup's psych right now.

I don't know that I would totally have it. I think what I said a couple of weeks ago, make this just a big like March Madness style, week's long match play bracket. Like, break up the matches and really make it much more like March Madness, one versus one different times a day. And it's like, hey, Justin Thomas, like you're going to the first round is in, you know, New York or Boston or wherever they want to have all caps to the Northern Trust.

And you might only play two matches. And if you get out of there, then you move to Boston. You might play two matches there. And then if you get there, you, you know, you play in Atlanta, whatever. I think that would be so much more fun to like be thinking about, oh, should it's Dustin versus Ram all week, rather than what if we started one guy at minus 10, right? I think that there is like that is dream scenario. I think that there's a reason enough out there, and I don't pretend to really know how these tournaments operate as well,

but it is such a quick non-starter for so many people that work in golf of why match play doesn't work. And I trust that to a certain extent, that I don't think you can say, hey, give me take my stroke play event that ensures that these players are all gonna be there for four days and take that away.

And now I don't know if Dustin Johnson is going to be there on the weekend in my hospitality when I want to host hospitality. Yeah. So it just seems like, I mean, look at the fucking, like, look at the names that were up there. Like if you do it the right way, like you're going to, first of all, this goes back to what we were saying a couple of weeks ago too, is like, you don't let in, you know, 125 guys. Like that's the problem.

And we'll get to this with F1. Honestly, I know this is going to sound like a richer of a parallel, but so Pierre Gasly wins in F1 this week, and it's seemingly this quote unquote, like massive underdog. He's the first person from non Mercedes, non Red Bull, non Ferrari to win. It's in like six years or something like that. And that seems like a massive upset, right? And it is a massive upset. But the difference is with F1, you only have 20 guys.

So you have full context of who the favorites are, who the downsides are, all of these things. And it's not that Pierre Gasly is a massive underdog. He's still one of the only 20 best people in this sport. And that's the problem is like, an underdog like Michael Thompson, no offense to Michael Thompson. People don't have space in their brains

to keep tabs on 125 different players. And like they're not going to be psyched for all 125 of those guys. Like that's just not how it works. If you limit the number of people that can get in, I feel like people have more of a frame of reference. They know who the favorites are, who the underdogs are, even if on paper they're not as quote unquote favorite and underdoggy. So just let less guys into the fucking playoffs. That's the problem. That's your issue, I think.

Moving down, Tron's speaking of underdogs. This is again, verbatim from Tron. Scotty, Scotty, Scotty, I'd like a public apology from Sally. Be getting no public apology for any of that. So Scotty, Sheffler wins $5.3 million this season without a win or a runner-up finish. Does that feel right to you? It doesn't feel right to anyone, I'm sure, but... If this happened in a flip situation, TC would be furious about this. But him benefiting from it, I'm sure, but if this happened in a flip situation, TC would be furious about this.

But him benefiting from it, I'm sure he's in love with it. I mean, yeah, Scottie had a great year. Great year. You know, he made it to the Torch Championship, played great at the Torch Championship, and shot 66, 66, 65 the last three rounds to make a lot of fun. Almost a triple McKenzie Hughes.

Almost. One deeper than a matter. Which a lot of people don't realize, like you can't go deeper than 66 in order to get him a McKenzie Hughes. Almost. One deeper than that. Yeah. Which a lot of people don't realize like you really you can't go deeper than 66 in order to get him a Kenzie Hughes, which we should shout out JT. 6666 in the last two rounds without the win. It's an official Mackenzie Hughes. That is an official Mackenzie Hughes. So, no, I mean, it's the end of the whatever this season is and I want it. So I don't hear any apology from anyone else on that. So, uh, no, we will

not apologize. Uh, I believe this next one's an F1 take. Hate to see stroll, get a podium. Of course, he's being facetious. Tough look for all the haters. Maybe people should look deeper into whether science is a fluffer instead of continually giving away. We're saving F1 to the end. All right. Now he gets back into golf. Also hate to see demeglio bootlicking the tour and participating in state-run media. I think that's in reference to a USA Today column that you dig deeper on your own for that. What do you wanna move into next?

We'll break these up. I was gonna get to some of the questions that flowed through because I'm very poor at getting them. It's so much easier to get to questions that when there's just two of us. But, Herm Train says, just me or was this the most boring towards championship they've ever had?

No, I don't, it's been far more boring. There's been far more boring, but I'm ready to just recirculate this take. New season coming up, I'm ready for dubbed in crowd noise. I watched a baseball game with you the other night and by the third inning, I had totally forgotten that it was like dubbed in.

Like it was a gentle applause for a single, you know, a little bit more noise for a strikeout or a home run or something like that. It feels like just taking the red pill and just being like, dude, I don't even care, trick my brain. Yes. And I would be way too unsettled by that the whole time.

I'd constantly be remembering like, no, I'm not, I'm not falling for this shit. I refuse to let this into my brain. I think you'd forget about it. I think it would help. I would too, that's why I don't want to do it. It would help with the excitement. Like that is, it is so much harder to get amped

in these big pressure moments. If the telecast is going to stink and there's no crowd noise, that's a huge ask. You are asking people at home to like convince themselves that this is dramatic and exciting. Which is, yeah, BMW is a little unfairly spectacular. Well, and they had crowd noise on 18. There was enough people around there for those moments. That made a difference.

So I think that that contributed, of course, to feeling maybe extra, extra boring, whatever. I got a list of questions as well. We'll go. Bryson Gordon. No relation. No relation to the big golfer. Is DJ not folding on Sunday the biggest proof yet that the FedEx cup isn't a big event? That's a very interesting take, but I would say I think Dustin would have won any tournament that he was playing today.

Yeah. That just makes me more upset. Again, all of these make me more upset that he doesn't take Harding Park and just run with it. And so many other ones, even since he's one one, it just seems like he should be bracking up way more of these. Like, it's so very clear as to how talented he is. And I winning, big Randy's not here, like people ask him, you know, to extend like whatever is,

is he's gonna leave a vapsense on his life or whatever you wanna extend, I don't know what you wanna call it, stay of execution. And no, it doesn't change anything. Like you can win 30 more of these in the fact that you only have one of the majors is what makes it so frustrating.

The fact that he has this much success, like, I don't know, Rory's got 18 tour wins and four majors. DJ's got 24 wins now, whatever it is, 23 and one major. That's a tough balance. That's tough. And I will say to your, the data golf stuff, the probability of like, you know,

he shouldn't really win all of these blah, blah, blah. That felt more like Harding Park to me, where like he did play, he didn't kick Harding Park away, like, more of how it took it, I felt like. Yeah. And so I'm buoyed by that, which is, I think, the best sign that, you know, we'll hopefully see him play well at Wingfoot, too.

And like, I'm rooting for it, man. Like, I love watching him win, and I want him to get five majors. I mean, I think that is good for everybody. Oh, 100%. But I think that he played, hopefully, Harding Park doesn't go down as like, oh, another one he lost because he's very much lost plenty of them. There's been more heartbreak. I feel like he just got beaten at Harding Park.

Yeah, it just felt like truly the time to like go and take one by the horns again. Like, I know he did that at Oakmont, but like that felt, I don't know. I don't know why that one bothered me so much because I think he's, because he's had so much success since he won Oakmont, like 2018 that year was absurd, how often he won, and the fact that no more majors have come since then despite all of this good golf, to not get the majors out of it,

to not, I don't know, be able to convert any of those, it just bothers me. There was a good question from SC Buckeye, has someone made sure DJ's team has rented a house with only one story for both Wingfoot and Augusta. Of course, I would say a lot of parallels to what we saw going into that 2017 masters, where I had to look it up, but he finished T3 at Pebble,

one Rive, one Mexico, one the match play, and then, oh my God, took his spill on the stairs at a gust. So fairly similar stretch here that, you know, T2 at the BGA win, second win. And the second it became to be within a playoff. And the second was essentially win. I still think that there's something that there's there. You should get more money for a runner up in a playoff than a true runner up. That's, I would list that out. Nobody beat you over 72 hosts. Yeah, no, it should be some kind of, some kind of extra bonus with that.

I also think all PJ Jordan should be winner tick all, but that's a separate. Well, money clearly doesn't matter anymore. It's a separate conversation. Phil Johnson asks, why should I care about the FedEx Cup? The FedEx Cup. The FedEx Cup. I was going to say, you shouldn't care about the FedEx Cup. Yeah. Why should I care about the FedEx Cup? The FedEx Cup. I was gonna say, you shouldn't care about the FedEx Cup. Yeah.

Why should I care about the FedEx Cup? You can laugh the question, but like I think I did say a big picture question. No, it's a great question. And it's one that I have, I don't wanna say wrestled with, because I wouldn't say I'd give it all that much thought, but it's something like, it's very easy to make fun of.

It's very fun to make fun of. I enjoy making fun of it and we'll continue to make fun of it. However, like look at the winners. The winners have been pretty much in line with probably who the best player is that year. You know, I mean, like look, look back at you had DJ this year. You had look back at DJ this year, you had Rory last year, Justin Rose, like, spieth, JT, Rory, I mean, and Riksdensen, it's, yeah, it's been really good that you're ready. And I do think you got to give the tour credit. I mean, of course, it's taken eight or nine iterations of changing the points and the formats and all that stuff, but it seems pretty optimized right now to really identifying the player. And so I think both things can be true. It's also still gonna be fun to make fun of,

at least for another generation. But that's what I think I'm serious. I think this shit like takes legitimately like generations. Like look at the player's championship as I think another good example of this where like the players was a really good and fine tournament for a long time, right? Then it felt like all the pressure kind of ratcheted up

to like, let's try to make, you know, let's try to quietly make this a major, let's try to quietly make this a major, blah, blah, blah, blah, and there's just been like a generation's worth of people who are like, fuck this, no, it's not a major. And I really think like you're already starting to see people turn now into like dude,

it's like look at the fields, look at the golf course, look at the purse, look at the winners, look at like it's a really great tournament. And I think like that stuff just takes a really long time to shift. And that's what makes me laugh about like the optic stuff and like oh, we got to really control this and that and really like manipulate how people think

about the FedEx Cup is because, there's nothing you can do, it's just gonna take time. And that's why people like the majors is because they've been around for a really fucking long time. That's it. Well, and also when it came out, $10 million was such an absurd amount of money. I remember, definitely not covering golf this time,

I was in college and that came out and I was like, oh my God, I wanna watch that. Cause they give out, at that point, not even $2 million for the biggest tournament, right? So now I was in tournament, it's gonna be basically like 10x, what a big tournament is. Holy shit, that's gonna be wild to watch that.

Now, when you do this for over a decade now, that 15 million for a lot of these guys, I'm not gonna say it doesn't get them going. I'm sure that 15 million for a lot of these guys doesn't, I'm not gonna say doesn't get them going, I'm sure they've got a whole lot of stuff going on within them, playing for that much money, but for fans, it's no longer that interesting for me, like DJ ads, 15 million.

It'd be one thing if like, you know, DJ's career earnings were 15 million and then he doubles them today. Yeah. But even that is like, it's such an amount of money that so few people can them today. Yeah, but even that is like, it's such an amount of money that so few people can relate to. Yeah, it's like, dude,

I remember asking, like fill that when we had our thing at the match, because that was gonna be my other example, is you know, I was with you when I first heard, like, oh my God, $10 million, I can't wait to watch that. And then you watch it a couple times, you're like, this sucks.

Like I don't, turns out I don't care about that at all. And the match was the same way, right? Everybody thought, oh my God, this is gonna be so cool. So much money. For nine million dollars, this is so amazing. And it's like, I had infinitely more fun watching, you know, the one with Peyton Manning and Tom Brady, I have no idea what they even played for.

And I think that's the journey. Kind of the point. And that's where like, I do get the optic stuff of like don't make it about the money, it's about the trophy, it's about the trophy, it's about the glory, we do it for the glory, we do it for the glory, it's like, I guess if you do that for literally years,

maybe you can beat it into people's heads. But until you do, it's gonna get made fun of. And I think the tours got to probably wear that a little bit. Who's the player of the year? Dustin, yeah, I think. I mean, if he's not, then, well, I don't know why that award exists if there's a FedEx cup.

Like, what else are we doing the FedEx cup for? Because I think they would get completely excursiated if they were to say we're not doing a player of the year award and it's just gonna go to the FedEx cup winner. That would be hashtag not good amongst the media. Yeah, I mean, the players vote on the player of the year award and it's just gonna go to the FedEx Cup winner. That would be hashtag not good amongst the media. Yeah, I mean, the players vote on the player of the year, though, right? They do, but I think that's always been like

the longstanding thing is like, oh, whoever won the majors, like they're the player of the year. Oh, I see what you mean. You know what I mean? Like imagine how pissed people would be if it was, like, oh yeah, Rory won two majors and, you know, four other events, but, you know, JT won the FedEx Cup, so he's player

of the year. Like that would be a complete disaster. So much money. Who's here? You're taking Moricala or DJs? As someone who has less than $15 million in their bank account, I would happily take DJs season over Moricala's. But I don't, I mean, I would think DJ would

rather have more cowboys. Maybe think about, I don't know, how much money is a major worth? I mean, one literally $18 million to last four weeks. It's hard to explain this, maybe because I'm trying to paraphrase what the feeling I get from talking to tour guys about this more so that it's not direct quote, but like those guys just want to play and be recognized for really good golf.

Like majors and good fields and stuff. In that, I'm saying basically, like I think fans tend to overrate the majors more than players do. Like they'd rather play good, long, sustained golf than have a peak win a major time. You know what I mean? No, I totally agree. I might be over generalizing it, but like just in general, they would love to just go play golf like DJ just did. And that's exactly right.

And I hope at least like it definitely won't amongst fans or amongst his fellow players, but I hope that amongst fans, it doesn't get poo pooed away as like, well, the Fattix Cup is dumb. So like that doesn't really count. But I think that will. Like I saw a bunch of tweets that were like, yeah, but he's still and got one major. It's like, dude, he's kicked the shit out of everybody. He is playing by so far the best golf in the world right now. And like, hopefully it doesn't get discounted because the FedEx cup is dumb. Do you know what I mean?

It is still max effort from all parties involved to win the FedEx cup. So in that regard, it is a significant golf achievement. Like without any argument, I mean if anyone argues that, like get the fuck out of here, come on. Like that is a long, it's a very prestigious award.

I mean, we can make fun of it because they try to make it seem more prestigious than it is, but in that regard, like yeah, dude, we're all playing for the biggest cash pile in golf. Like who's gonna go win it? And DJ outfit everyone. Like that's not worthy. And I guess this is where I'm getting at is, you know, this is how the change takes place over the next, you know, five, 10 years, we're gonna be like, you know, you know what?

People used to make fun of this, but it's rules. The FedEx cups the only thing that matters. It's the true indicator. That's why these guys do it. It's not about the money. So just watch yourself. They cut away.

That's how it happens. They cut away from this championship this week to do a commercial for the start of the new FedEx cup season. So, there are many, there are many old goals. A lot of things that they're gonna be available available for us to make fun of and they got it They squeezed in I thought they were going to go for one of the back nine actually went commercial free on the back nine Yeah, thought that we were going to get a back nine Commercial for the FedEx Cup championship during the FedEx Cup championship

I thought we would we got a front nine one. Uh Tron had some many thoughts on this Heck of a year for Tyrell Hatton, Sebastian Munoz had a hashtag elite year. Harris English continues to absolutely flush the ball. Heck of a season missed off this week for honest a after his opening 64. Mackenzie Hughes is my vote for player of the year. leash birdie does last two shot under part of the week. Build on that. You probably some scrolled all the way down to give a shout

to Lonso Griffin for finishing 18th in the FedEx Cup. Congratulations. Fantastic season. Very cool for you. And part of a, well, I'm calling a victorious FedEx Cup team. You guys can gerrymand, or however you want. I can win two titles. I don't really care how it all goes.

You just want to be recognized for good play. I just, that's what it is. Tron actually, in his next next note brings up a very interesting point that DJ winning the quote, PGA tours ultimate prize end quote, and then announcing he's going to the PGL would be the ultimate chef's kiss. Tell me about those Steve Sands interview afterward. Oh God, it was the, like, that was my favorite part of the day

and I don't want to read too much into it, but like Sands was doing some Simone Biles gymnastics to get DJ to like give a good sound bite about the FedEx cup and how much it means and how it's, you know, legacy cementing stuff. And he said, so he said something like, you know, Dustin, this is obviously like something that, you know, you're such a private person with regards to your goals. And you came out this week and you said that you needed to win the FedEx Cup

in order to really cement your legacy. You said that out loud, you felt it was so important to say that out loud that you needed to win this event. Why did you feel like you needed to win in order to really cement your legacy as one of the greatest players of all time about winning the FedEx Cup? Dustin said, well, yeah.

What did you say? I didn't need to win it. I said I wanted to win it. My favorite thing with you is like, so good. Having been present for a conversation that you tell the story about it and the exaggeration that comes with it. And I heard Steve Sands ask that. And that was minorly exaggerating. That's impressive though. Like, I love it. You draw me in every time you go to tell this, tell a story of how somebody said something. I need it. That was like another, and listen, I get, man,

that you've probably shot the wad as far as Dustin Intel and Dustin takes and all of that stuff goes since he hasn't really trailed over the last like three weeks. But it was funny, just flipping on like off central afterwards and stuff. And I know Azinger said this and Dan Hicks said this and when you really break it down, it's pretty laughable that they kept just saying the same thing that like, you know, he came in

and he said this FedEx cup was something he wanted to win and then he did it. It's like, yeah, I think that's fucking everybody, man. So they all want to win it and then they sure, if they do, then they do. It's my favorite Roger Malky as I'm ever is, I mean, he's a guy that just hates me. He just hates making both.

He wanted, he really wanted this one, and then he wanted. Can I do big winner and big loser in terms of how the how the tour championship playoff finale, whatever played out in terms of money. Someone last week, I know I'm just itching to get to F1, but somebody suggested that we have a rock star of the week and wanker of the week. Yes.

It's honor of Gunter Steiner. Rock star of the week is Zander Shoffley. So he came in the week in 14th, which would have projected him for $620,000 payday. He finished tied for second for $4.5 million. So he basically earned himself $4 million with his play this week. The big loser, the big wanker, Web Simpson came in. Web might hate money at this event.

He projected for fourth place, which would have been $3 million. He finished tied for 12, which got him somewhere around 685K or something like that. So lost about 2.4. And I used lost and gained and quotes, like nobody counts the money until it actually hits their bank account, but as far as where you came in at, got a handicap and where you ended, that's the extremes.

And I imagine Webstrop would not have been as severe under the old format. That's what I was gonna say. We talked about this. I know a lot coming in, but I think that's kind of cool. I love that there's more volatility and that you can actually, if you play horrifyingly bad, I mean, you could go from fifth to 25th. And Bryson went from eighth to 22nd, but that was only a dip of about six to 700,000. And just because eighth was only worth one point, one million, I can't believe I, that's a sentence that's actually been just been said.

That's a tough, you know, I don't know how much time we want to devote, but a tough playoff for the big golfer. Yeah, I think he's little, like there's questions about his sustainability. And yeah, listen, do I think that Olympia and East Lake were good format for him? Not necessarily.

Are good setups for him? No, I don't. Did I bet on him in both of those weeks? And draft games, I guess I did. It was not a great season. Question from Benny GQ, does this run give us any additional thoughts on softly going into these two majors? Or is it just another good FedEx cup run from and he'll be middle of the road favorite going into the weekend?

What's the question? I don't really know. Do we think, Zander's going to major like going into the majors? Yes, I think he's like one of the, you know, so five players, you got to put on your very, very short list for every major going forward until, you know, until further notice. But it doesn't feel like he gets treated that way. No, absolutely not. And so I tweeted something to this avail,

but I got kind of not peeved, but I feel like Faredi was like the 400th person that I've heard mentioned, Zander's dad, and like this unorthodox relationship. And Faredi was like very coy about it. Like, oh yeah, you know, Zander, and he's got quite an interesting relationship with his dad who was in the interview also and yeah, they do things pretty unorthodoxy.

And I was like, and then they just moved on. I was like, what the hell does that mean? And so I started digging. What an unbelievable story. I don't know how I didn't read it. From last January, I think it was Todd Leonard in the San Diego paper, pga.com is where I ended up reading it, but that was like the first deep dive that I've actually read on Xander and his family

and his upbringing. It was fucking amazing. And hearing his dad was just like, I don't wanna say like overbearing, but that was kind of the vibe that, like overbearing, but also it sounds like they're totally like fine and very close and have a very good relationship.

So I think it's kind of like a double edged mega-strict. Yes, but also. Discipline military. Yes. So, like, Zander's interview on the Earn Your Edge podcast with Cory Lumberg and Cameron Rokormick is excellent. And he doesn't really, like, steer right into that, but mentions like it makes 10 different remarks throughout it of like, well, yeah, like basically alluding to that, but mentions, like, it makes 10 different remarks throughout it,

and I'm like, well, yeah, like, basically alluding to his dad's presence, which is, like, he doesn't do it with bitterness, but kind of like, yeah, like, that wouldn't have flown with my dad. And there was a bunch of stuff that, you know, was in this article, and I won't quote it all, just like, please seek it out and go read it. But it was, you know, like, his dad wouldn't let him take photos

with trophies. In junior golf, he wouldn't let him take photos with trophies. In junior golf, he wouldn't let him play par three courses. He wouldn't let like all these different, like super, I don't know, shout out to Rain. Just all these like different fascinating things. And I think I was texting somebody about it today and I was like, man, that's, like that's what I've been dying for. He's like, and that's what I think we've said

on this podcast a million times is like, man, I would love to ride for Xander. I would have loved to really be feeling something with Xander in the mix today, but I just don't fucking know anything about him. And I guess, you know, this is the only real behind the curtain piece I've really seen and I need to listen to the podcast you've talked about as well. But yeah, it's, I think if there was more of that out there, I think people would be feeling a lot differently going into majors as stupid as that sounds.

Maybe this qualifies in hamster dam but and spoiler alert for the pod that will come out later this week but I talked with Harry Higgs on the podcast this morning. Second time he's been on but just talking about, we talked about the golf ball for like eight minutes as far as he's going to maybe be changing golf balls this fall because of he goes in a great detail as to why and like what he needs out of it. And I was like dude, it just made me mad that like, how do I not know that about, like something like that about tiger or rory,

or how are these announcers not getting little nuggets from them at such as, you know, I need a golf ball that can fade up against this wind, but if it has a tail at the end, like his detail is insane. And at the end of he's like, sorry, that was probably pretty nerdy. And I'm like, no, dude, like that's what I'm here for. Take me there as to all these things that go, if I see that many golf shots, it is going

to start getting mundane. And you lose appreciation for the greatness that comes in the craft of what these players are providing us every single week. And it just kind of washes over you. And I need more shit like that. I need to care more. I don't necessarily need more drama. I don't need it to be like, you know, heavily dramatized or, you know, steering into the WWE

like we talked about, but it just needs to be, God, I keep falling back on this. But Azinger saying that DJ is laying back off the tee at Olympia Fields because he has a lower spin ball and he needs to be able to get to front pins. Like that is, that is, I'm there. Like take me there. You just took me there. I mean, that's gonna say I think Zinger did a good job of that even this week too. He had a couple, a couple nuggets like that and that, it makes such a difference and I don't get why, like golf has such a slow pace until the last nine holes anyways. Like there's, and it's on for so long that I don't get why golf has such a slow pace until the last nine

holes anyways. And it's on for so long that I don't know why some of those front-nines and really the Thursday, Friday, telecasts don't feel more like a podcast almost. Like dude, I don't need, PTA Tour live is a lot better at that. It is, for sure. And I think there's a lot to be learned there because the people who are tuning in on the Thursday and Friday are the really hardcore fans, and that's exactly what they're looking for.

And what they don't need is you just say Justin Thomas on the 14th hole, because there's a graphic that does that for you already. You don't need to narrate what's going on, just show it. And just talk, you know, just have some conversations, guys. Just get into some stuff. Get him, skip. Yeah, and he loves that.

That can count as hamster, dam. I didn't really have anything else. Other than a massive commending compliment, I don't know, for everybody involved with the commercial free, back nine, because that was so cool. And change things very quickly. We were texting each other, I know that, there was no drama this week that was different

than what happens week to week on the P PJ tour. Like Dustin was clearly gonna win. He was up by two or three or four or five. Pretty much the whole stretch of the day never really felt like he was gonna lose. There weren't any crazy massive moments, maybe his par save on 14 there or 13. But beyond that it was like pretty standard stuff. And it felt really dramatic because you weren't constantly and punched in the face with commercials. Like every single time you try to get into it.

I'll be working my way back to you, babe. And I will, a huge shout out. It's awesome being in a swing state with all the political ads. That was great. Just the murder porn. Those two going back and forth at each other was so cool. I will say that service now commercial,

but the song I was just singing, I've heard that so many times that I've, I literally have heard it in my sleep, and we went to Home Depot the other night, and that actual song was on, like very faintly over the loudspeaker, and I was like, there's no way. Like there's no possible way this song has followed me

to Home Depot. Come on. like, there's no way, like there's no possible way the song has followed me to Home Depot. Come on. And if there's anybody sitting that works for an ad agency being like, worked on you, fuck you, no, that's too far, it's too far, we're not into that. No, it did not work on us. Like, I wouldn't have known what the company was.

So I don't know what they do. I really don't. God, golf is just not meant to be constantly watched. I'm constantly interrupted. No, I'm saying like, you're not supposed to watch golf for three to four hours. No, definitely not. They make that clear,

we're just hitting with the same ads over and over again. Fuck these guys. Oh, watch it. Yes, they'll watch it. It was, and I was, you know what, even despite the fact that it was really never in question and Dustin was probably gonna win a tournament that I really, you know what, even despite the fact that it was really never in question and Dustin was probably gonna win a tournament that I really, for a lot of reasons

we've already expanded on, don't care all that much about. It was, I was happy to watch today. I didn't feel like a jackass for watching because I was treated to a really good product. You know what I mean? And that, that's what I think we're talking about. Yeah. And they do that with the players, Championship two.

And like, it's just, man, it's so stark to see how bad it is week to week when you see how good it can be. And I'm not being idealistic or overly reaching for anything unrealistic. I'm not saying everything needs to be commercial free, but holy shit, man, get more creative with the on screen ads, get more creative

with like the playing through stuff sucks, like just make some incremental improvements. Super easy thing to get rid of. It seems like it's only getting worse, I should say. Yes. Super easy thing to get rid of, the playing through, like we don't need the graphic to slide to show that it's coming back. You cover the action.

Almost always it's during a swing or a ball landing, like they just have a graphic that slides across and you can't tell what the ball just did. So, that's- I want to give a shout out to the NBC and I'm sure CBS would have been the same way if they were commercial free. I think they're just horrible at juggling all the commercials and all the asks and all that stuff. I think that's probably their biggest downfall, but you could see how much better the producers

are and how much better the talent is and how much better all- all these people just shine when you're not constantly interrupting them. Yeah, I wouldn't say NBC had like a sterling playoffs. It was okay, like we probably, again, we focus on this more than probably anyone else. I don't think it would garner a mention either positively or negatively if there wasn't so much negative,

like so much bad-shade engulf coverage that made it worth talking about. It's passable. It's not spectacular. wasn't so much negative, so much bad-shading golf coverage that made it worth talking about. It's passable. It's not spectacular. It's not, I don't know, on my head, the gap between them and CBS was bigger. And maybe this is just like, all right, the COVID is level, the playing field a little bit. I don't know. It didn't feel as stark as maybe I was expecting. I think in the election season that we're entering, I'm down to a complete single issue voter at this point.

And it's just commercials, man. And that's... But their commercials are still pretty bad. No, they are. They're horrible. And that doesn't come back to either network. That's the tour. And that's where I'm getting it.

Listen, it's election. Maybe we're all in this together. We've all got to work together to solve these issues. And if you vote for me, it's a vote for less commercials. Because that's the only thing that that's what kills it. That's the biggest thing. The biggest challenge facing our nation right now. I'm an independent.

I do not believe in this two-party system or these two networks, I hope I can win your vote. I can be swayed either way, not to see be us. T-Shobber, what's Deij going to spend it all on? You got to run back your take on what should be done with FedEx? This of course comes from our Commissioner for the Day Trap Draw, which we're probably about to do for another one of those, a fresh batch of takes. But I think we found a lot of bipartisan support on this one as well

that if you're going to give away $15 million and expect people to care about it, there's got to be some sort of wrinkle. And my suggestion would be that at least a third of it has to be spent within 30 days. And the receipts of those purchases have to be presented to the public for discourse and discussion. Which we did in Taurusau Season 5, you won $500 and you had to spend a third of it. Exactly. And I bought a new guitar and a cameo from P.D. Poplar. And I'm happy to show their seats for any of those.

And I bought a cameo from Murphy Lee as well, but it wasn't very good. So we didn't include that one. Are we done with questions ready to work through some final other stuff in golf? There was one more good question. Well, there were a lot of good questions, but we hadn't got to all of them.

Antifaldo, friend of the program. If they were to move the tour championship from East Lake, what's the best slash hardest 18th hole for the purposes of watching guys dump out duffel bags full of cash with every three jack and water ball? I saw this one and I hadn't, I wasn't able to give enough energy to think as to what my answer would be.

I would be rushing in the answer right now. I think the 18th my answer would be. I would be rushing an answer right now. I think the 18th of Jack's Beach would be great. That's a very small audience. I know of people that will understand that one, but it could be truly the most maddening hole, 18th hole in America. Braining crossings also would probably be up there, but I thought about crossings.

As far as like holes on tour, I don't. Pacific dunes would also be pretty bad one. That would be a pretty bad one. I feel like Houston could be pretty tough. You got, yeah. Soggress obviously would be great. With that 18th hole would be really, really cool. That way, a lot of balls are good.

Soggress might be my answer because like I think it is one thing to thread a driver in there to try to win a golf tournament. It's a different with just straight money on the line at the end. Yeah, I think that'd be a tough shot. Yeah, yeah. And I think, again, I've had many times,

but they need to move the tee on 18, it's our grass. It's the top of the hill. Up to the top of the hill. When it's downwind, I'm with you. Yeah, you have to be up. You don't have to play it up there every day. Yeah. Which brings me weirdly too, my next point.

What do you think of 15, the Part Three at East Lake? I mean, it's very much, I mean, it's an island green in name only, whatever, peninsula green in name, I don't know. It's kind of dull hole, I think. It, I was kind of of two minds throughout the whole day today where it was like, on one hand, they kept saying, like, oh my God, this is so much pressure.

This is unbelievable. This shot that these guys are facing blah, blah, blah. And I agree, like it looks very, very hard and it plays 233 and all that stuff. There was one ball in the water today. That kind of, I don't know. I don't think it quite has the bite that it looks like it has because I think everybody just hits in that bunker.

Yeah, it's not that hard. I will say the number of balls in the water is obviously extremely diminished with the Torch Ampage Up and only 30 balls in play in 120. There were four, there were four all week. Yeah, it's not a lot, but yes, it's four out of one 30, or 120 is not, you know, it's not four out of five 70 or whatever it should be otherwise.

Round one, it played 150 yards, which that seems like a crowning. But they've moved the pin up for that. That's actually, that's one of the more interesting days actually, I think. Round two, it played 226, three balls in the water. Round three, it played 206, and then of course 233, the final round. So one other thing I want to get in, I swear, it didn't mean to bury this more than an hour into it as faint praise, but like, I think when they came out with the schedule during COVID and they said,

you know, we're starting back up second week of June, did I think we would get three straight months of golf tournaments with no interruptions? Totally. Absolutely not. I'm with you. True, I commendation. I would pray, I don't know what that word is, but a salute to all those involved, the PGA tour, all the sponsors, all the tournament directors, everyone that dedicates their year, their livelihood towards making these events happen and entertaining people.

They happen to have them without fans. Obviously, we want fans at them and we would love for these to go differently if they could, but they can't. And even the event they lost, they filled it in with another one. I mean, it's impressive stuff and I just, I didn't want that to go by the way side. No, I had that as my soapbox Sunday as well. So what was it?

I think seven players tested positive, which is mostly early on. Extremely impressive, especially, you know, as you watch kind of some of these other sports try to wrangle people and get stuff to some sort of playable condition. So yeah, I have the same thing. I mean, it's super, super, super impressive that they were able to get it done the way

that they were. And I think it was not easy. I'm glad that we, I think as far as, you know, our stance, I think we were pretty eyes wide open about the fact that we had no idea what the right move was. So I feel confident about that. I'm glad we weren't out there beating the drum of, this is bullshit. Yeah.

Everybody needs to stay home. Cause I don't think that aged super, super well as far as the PJ tour goes. But yeah, kudos to that man. I'm glad that we've been able to watch golf for the last 14 weeks or whatever it's been. Amen. A couple more Tron things to sprinkle in before,

you know, we get to our last stuff. He says big shout outs to Charlie Saxon, Lauren Kaufflin, the young hitters program. I believe Charlie was the leader going into the final round at the Cornfair event. Lauren was one back at the Smeacher event. Neither got the jobs done, but as Tron says, the hitters are hashtag involved on the leaderboard. He says we go into 2021 with one thing different versus the last 15 seasons. Do you know what it is?

We have six majors in the next season. That's true, but I think that's would be different than any season. 15, a very specific number, and that's because as he says, David Bergagno is no longer out of major medical extension. He says disgusting scumbag. Again, those are his words.

And then this was a good one. He says, question for you guys. Three predictions for themes for the 2021 season. He also sent his as well, if you'd like to hear those first or last. We'll do those last. Okay. I would say, I don't know if this counts as prediction.

I just had, I had understood it as three themes for 2021. I would say, my first one is how badly the majors are just gonna stunt on the tour next year. They struggle to make us care about the FedEx Cup this year with one major, I don't know how they're gonna do it with six. Theme number two of that, also, there's a rider cup next year, with an extra year of hype and build up going into that one.

It is going to be just an enormous next 12 months. In a soulheim cup, I believe. And a soulheim cup in the same month as next year's Ryder Cup. And my third one, I truly believe that it is time and it is going to happen that it is next level. I don't know what that means yet, but it is time for JT to assert himself.

Yeah. I feel like this kind of return to golf, he's been a slightly different golfer in how confident it looks like he's swinging, and it just didn't quite piece together, and I don't know exactly why I don't pretend to make excuses for it, but I feel like he's just got himself in better shape,

and he is carrying himself with a different level of confidence, and I think that it could be an enormous next 12 months for him. It feels like what we've seen DJ do the last three weeks, like there's maybe four guys on the PJ tour who can do that and JT is definitely one of those guys. And it seems like we've seen that a bit, like he's gone on runs, not maybe quite to this level,

but yeah, it's always kind of shocking when they don't happen, I guess. It's different when DJ is doing it, but I think that's a great prediction. What are your themes? I had back on the tee, we're gonna see Jordan's speech return to golf.

Woo! Like, again, I've been steadfast in this, if you guys don't wanna be on the bandwagon, that's totally fine. If you wanted to clear them over, go ahead, say it. I wanna, not you, them talking. I know, I wanna be on the bandwagon, but also say it's not there.

Yes, yeah. Okay, and I'm very much on the same page. Like, it's not there. It's, he's not good right now. It's not good, but, like, if people want to say like, you know, he's done, like I haven't heard a lot of those takes. You know what I'm saying? I've heard a decent amount of those.

Not credible ones. I've heard a lot of like Frank 654 on Twitter who's like, he sucks. He's never gonna play good again. But I don't hear a lot of credible sources saying like, no, he's like, he's toast. And that gives me hope that, I mean, he's, he's sure, literally one of the most talented players to ever play golf.

Like, I don't think that's into speed. And he's going to find it back, back on the tee, return to golf, Jordan speed, 2021. This one was kind of a tag team with Tron. We were kind of side-barring about this, but it's, it's kind of in line with one of his, which is that I think Brooks is going gonna just continue to lash out more and more as he becomes like kind of Mr. Relevant. And Tron thinks it will probably, this is one of his predictions,

Capka continues to struggle with injuries and doesn't find form. And I wonder if as that happens and as we've seen what DJ's done and as we've seen what Bryson's done and if JT starts doing something, I think maybe Brooks will, and as we've seen what DJ's done, and as we've seen what Bryson's done, and, you know, if JT starts doing something, I think maybe Brooks will, you know, I think maybe he's gotten a taste of being kind of Mr. relevant, and I think he's going to take PEDs.

I think he's going to at least, you know, dump on people in the media, which is sick, and I commend him for it, and I hope he keeps doing it. And then this is not an inventive one, but I think Xander's gonna win one of the next six majors. I think he'll win him. I got your next year. I love that. Tron's other ones, his predictions for the quote, super season, we need to count,

we need to call out that it is called the quote super season. Can I ask you one question before we get to that? Sure. Do you think the next six majors that we're gonna have of course next year, do we get a multiple winner? Yes. I almost said, because I'm an idiot, I almost said that that would be Rory,

but I think that it would be a safer, I mean, it's a safer bet to say no, right? Like I think that everything's so deep that probably. Like is it a crazy coincidence that you know there's a is a crazy unlikely that zander dust and jt rory brooks and x you know player x will all win majors like no that doesn't seem unlikely right more kawa hoveland like all kinds of different guys so I would say there won't be a multiple winner, but of course, who could say? I'm trying to think of it. I'm grabbing this before before I say something

dumb. I can't find it. So I'll probably say something dumb. But so Brooks and Rory, who is the, um, besides those two, who is the most recent multiple winner. Like how far back do you have to go to find a multiple winner from what year to now? Is it Phil with 2013 open and 2010 masters? That would make the most sense to me. Kimer. Ah, of course. Oh, and Speed, duh. No, okay, that wasn't even close.

Anzac, no, ZJ is not up there. That's speed. Speed would be the most reason one. That is the same topic. I thought about that one too. That's interesting. Yeah. So to your very roundabout point, Bob, I sucked. Yeah, I didn't do that. Okay. It was fun. They happen. Yeah. They happen. It's not crazy. All right. Tron. Of course, he asked for three and he provided Way more than three per usual. He said my predictions for the quote super season. Adam Scott wins one of the six majors. Shaffler makes the Ryder Cup team. We'll need a big apology from you if that happens. I'd love to have them on our team. Capca continues to struggle with injuries. He doesn't find form. Tron says I will RIP the cat increasingly often.

Sungjae wins the players. Fleetwood finally wins stateside, likely at Riviera. Honest Abe wins the Grupo Salinas Championship, becomes an international sensation. And JT asserts himself and becomes the dominant force in the game. So you guys are aligned with that, right? Can I find a little trivia question for you? Can you name who, I guess I don't know if anyone made it up until this year, there were, I think I'm counting four guys,

maybe five guys that had got a FedEx cup bonus every single year. Every single year since, oh, since seven. How many five? Yes, I think I think it's five. This is not just not just tour championship. Like you got top one. You finished in the top one 50 basically. I assume what those I don't know how those rules work.

Exactly. But yeah, all right. So Dustin. No, he did not know seven. First year of the FedEx got. Oh, shit, okay. Fierrick? Fierrick did not, 2017 did not get a FedEx Cup bonus.

Yeah, I suck at this game. Okay. No, it's a fun guess. It's hard to think of. Fierrick is correct. Rory, not Rory probably, because he wouldn't have been until he go nine. Charles Howell.

He's not in the top, he's not made more than five million, so I don't think he doesn't qualify in this list, I don't think. Oh gosh. That's a tough one. I know Hunter Mayhan was up there for a long time, but he wouldn't have got one last year. And you just named one of them as far as winning a major

in the next six, one of Tron's picks. At least Scott's got. Oh, I got it. Yeah. Who are the others? It's easy to forget Matt Koocher as well, of course. So and then Brainstantaker as well, which that one kind of surprised me. That's interesting. On the long journey, man.

This was a question I missed. This was from Uncle Dev. Is Zander a dog or a killer? Dog. I think he's got to be a dog. Yeah, I don't think he's a killer. He's killed. He has killed.

Yeah. But I didn't wait too close too often to be and not want to be a killer. Which has been his most off-the-erker. He's more of a lurker. What was up with the chunk chip today? What was that? 13, I think.

Oh, yeah, when DJ made the big par putt and yeah, that was that was tough. That one great. Yeah. But then he, I think 14 he had to hack out got up and down from like 130. He had a lot of good wedges, man. He's extremely extremely good. He voles it super nice. All right, what do you want to get to? We're getting closer to wrapping this up and really I just want to get to form you the one. We should mention, I didn't get to watch much of Valderama, but it was extremely tough. They blood that.

That falls tough on the Labor Day weekend here in the US, but two over one that, John Catlin one that, who's an American as well. And apparently he had been disqualified from a previous tournament for violating COVID protocol. Really? Yeah, came back to win that, he won by one of her Martin Kimer.

Facing adversity. So he shot 75 to win the tournament today. That's the world I want to live in. I do wish I could have watched more of that, because we've been seeing some fun firm conditions in the States recently as well. I didn't have much for segments. I didn't really. We had plenty else to talk about this week.

Rumble green. Rumble green. I feel like it has to be Joe Kovic. Oh my God. Uh-huh. Just a really tough look there. I should have got this tweet off and I didn't get to it timely enough, but I was going to just caption it with like, whoa, the view from the woman's view is crazy.

And it was just going to be the camera shot of Tiger hitting the cameraman at the 2010 Ryder Cup with Scott. The cigar guy in the background. Sean had a good rubber green. It's actually a look ahead. It's a pre-rubber green of the week, which is a look ahead to next week's A&A, which has the mega backstop in play.

Oh, I think it's on the temperatures. Well, and also it's going to be 120 degrees, so caddies are in carts. So also the rubber with the green. But potential for some of the best grandstanding we've ever seen. I'm excited to watch some more major championship golf. Me too.

LPGA tour. I didn't really have a, you hate to see it, I don't think. Not really. I think kind of almost what feel means peer to it. Like, ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hate to see web fall way down the leaderboard, lose a bunch of money. Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know if I don't hate to see that. Yeah, you know, um, I did mention joke of itch. That was, that was last note, sorry. He said, uh, joke of itch is truly a sick guy. Uh, he's like a combo of ROM and Bryson, um, which is, I think a pretty good take. That's pretty spot on. That concludes the golf portion of today's show. And you're welcome to leave.

If you're not into Formula One, if you are not into Formula One and still want to listen to us, please stick around because I think this was kind of the week. I finally just, I try not to tweet too much Formula One stuff, but I had to on Sunday like, hey, if you're even remotely into this, I get to a TV now because this is about to get really good. Really wild race at Monza.

One of the most, at one point I think I said to you guys, if the leaderboard was completely flipped, because this is about to get really good. Really wild race at Monza. One of the most, at one point, I think I said to you guys, if the leaderboard was completely flipped, I would believe it more than I do currently, because from the experience we've had, we've only watched live races so far this year. It is basically a Hamilton for staff in Botos, in some form in the top three. And at one point, Max was second to last,

and Hamilton was in dead last because of a penalty he had to serve. And both tosses was in like six or something, and Pierre Gasley's out in front. You know, safety cars, it was finally a red flag, and Louis Hamilton riding a scooter down to argue with the steward, but the penalty he was getting,

and we saw something like a 200 to one Pierre, a pier, a gasly, a 200 to one underdog, when a Formula One race, which almost, it very rarely happens. I believe I can only speak to this season, but everything almost always feels like a four-gun conclusion in this week was anything but that. It was unbelievable. Yeah, that was, it's amazing how quickly we're out of our depth as far as quote unquote analysis goes here. So just speaking as someone who, very, I think that's part of the chart.

Very candidly, like just started watching this season. It is such a shining example of like, what I'm sure all the hardcore fans have been pissed about for the last four years, which is like, this is fucking pointless to watch because there's no parody and it's gonna be one of these three guys who wins and that's boring.

And yeah, as soon as you got other guys in the mix, it was like, holy shit man, this is what it's all about. And I, well, we talked about this last night over to my ice cream, shout out to cookies and cream here in Jack's Beach. But I think you could almost make it to make a golf connection here. This is allegedly as a golf podcast.

I think on one hand, you could make the case that like man, Gazzly winning, that was so cool. Like that's why the PGL would be so bad is because, you know, you need these underdog stories and blah, blah, blah, blah. And I think that it's actually the opposite. I think that proves why the PGL would be successful in my view and throw out all the many, many things that people have taken issue with about the PGL.

I'm kind of just talking about the thought exercise of a group of 48 superstars that are teeing it up every week. Because like I was saying earlier, in the pod, it's, you have so much more context when you actually can like wrap your head around a smaller number of players, rather than trying to wrap your head around 200 people who could potentially win on the PJ tour week to week.

Like that is an impossible task unless you do nothing but watch golf all the time. Whereas Gasly being up there like my wife was in the other room working out and she knows enough about Formula One to know who Pierre Gasly is and know that that's a big deal. And so she stops what she's doing, runs into the room to like watch him win this race. And that is like the most, like that's never happening in golf, right? Yeah, I don't know how you simulate that in golf. I, you know, as that race is happening,

I think back to, of course, the Netflix series that we all watched that got us into Formula One. And all I could think of was, Pierre Gasser's got one career podium in his life, which was a third place finish out of 20, which to like a golf fan, that probably sounds like super, like nobody cares who finishes third out of 156.

Like why would you care who finishes third out of 20, but it's just different in this sport, like half of the reason you tune in is like for this midfield battle. And so he gets the third on the podium and he, while he's still in the car, he is screaming on the team radio and they have access to this team radio. This is of course why we think player, caddy conversations are so vital to broadcast. They have access to it and they just screams and he's not even back into the pits yet and says, this is the greatest day of my life. Finishing third place in a Formula One race. And I just thought, that is what hit me so hard. I'm like, how does this sport do so well to make you care about what guys finish other than the guys who sometimes the guy who wins is a complete afterthought.

Like they'll finally check in and say, oh yeah, Lewis Hamilton wins is 90th race, blah, blah, blah. And Carl's signs is trying to pass Estabato, come and have a last stretch for sixth place. And the excitement goes for that instead of, and I'm not saying it works the same in golf. I can put on about literal the race cars, of course, the excitement level is different. But so when Pierre Gasley has the lead after just crazy, weird pit stops would come with the safety cars and all this weird strategy, Lewis Hampton goes

into the pits too early. When he wasn't allowed to, he gets a 32nd penalty, has to drop back, all this stuff ends with like a really random result. And he, when he wins, like he crosses the finish line and just asks like, what just fucking happened? We just won the race. And three minutes after it happens,

the F1 Twitter account is tweeting out that video and they bleeped the F bomb, but like they are celebrating that has just happened. And it just was the excitement of the weekend in terms of being a sports fan. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I think there's the foregone conclusion that comes with, again, we're really just speaking about the season, but I know it's kind of been like this the last four or five years at

least. But just speaking from, you know, I think Randy pointed out like last week, excuse me, I don't know if it was two weeks ago, actually, maybe the last race was where they were basically like, yeah, Hamilton, like, if he,, Hamilton, if he takes the lead into turn five of lap one, it's over. A spa. The next hour and a half is like kind of whatever. He's for sure going to win if he makes

through the first five turns in the lead. And that's where Dustin Johnson imagined. I guess it was kind of like that this week, but it's like, yeah, if he goes out and, I mean, if he plays the first four in like, one under, like, it's totally over. Weirdly enough, this is, you know, Hamilton finished in the points, but this was the race that highlighted how good he is to be more so than any of the races he wins and how cheated I feel. Almost said this. How cheated I feel is to form you the one fat.

But like, how we don't even get to really appreciate him as a racer because you so far out in front and you don't see him racing anyone. He's racing himself out there in front and to see him actually just catapulting past cars and zooming right around them and just how he was still a factor in the story when he was in 17th place was kind of just spoke to his greatness

and how Botos could not pass cars. In the same exact car. Botos was wanting that he had a puncture what he just get blown past by everybody a puncture and he said he couldn't race with these settings this is a joke this is a joke you're driving the bat mobile okay man you do not get to say that how do you think George Russell feels back there in the Williams for real and you're telling me you tell him that your settings are a joke shot declared Williams last all right last race she's still alive she's retired for and you're telling me that you're telling them that your settings are a joke. Shout out to Claire Williams, by the way. Last. All right, Pete.

Last race. She's still alive and she's retired from all the... So what you're talking about is why they were freaking out on the broadcast booth about the reverse grid qualifying, where it's basically like, I didn't look into this at all. So somebody, people are going to come at me hard for my gross misunderstanding. Which we welcome, Which I totally welcome. Do not send us your golf taste.

A lot of people send me emails and DMs about like all this stuff that I've missed. It's been great. But they were basically saying like, you should almost start qualifying, I think what they were saying. You should almost start qualifying in reverse grid order. Like start the Williams up front,

start the other ones, blah, blah, blah, blah, and then have almost like a mini race where it's like, you know, watch these guys overtake everybody, put the best guys in the back and watch them overtake. And I'm almost thinking about that with, that would be a sick golf tournament. Put like, no offense to our friend, Mark Lee Spinoe, exactly.

And poorly put him out in front, watch guys get a pull. Put dust in way in the back, and just watch him chase everybody down. See what he feels like when, you know, oh, I'm down by 10, cool. Like I'm gonna start firing now. How's the reverse grid start to like, why would teams race hard and qualifying

then if you're gonna start in the back? I, listen, admittedly this is the extent of my knowledge. I think it would be, you would race hard because, like I think it would be like based on your standings in the Constructors series or the Driver series, that season is I think the reverse order. And then you'd be qualifying. So like the poll would still be the, the poll, you know what I mean?

Yeah, I don't know. I don't think you'd actually, I don't know. I don't think you'd actually start the race like in reverse order. I think it would be. There's an article in the BBC, I just googled reverse grid sprint race plans and there's seven seven hours ago for me. The one set to revive reverse grid sprint plant race plans. Well, apparently they do this in F two. Job is telling me and that's

all I know. But so it's it's out there. It's possible. Tron, of course, had some some F one takes. Christian Horner needs to be publicly apologize. I believe that's in reference to F1 takes, Christian Horner needs to be publicly apologized. I believe that's in reference to sacking, sacking gasoline, replacing him with Albon who I will submit stinks. Tough race for Max, even before he had the retirees. That was a tough week. That was a bummer. He said, charlie Claire should refuse to get in the car.

The rest of the season Ferrari is a stain on the sport. I think that's all for his F1 takes. I think that was we got through Tron's lengthy list of, uh, of commentary. Monsa did not disappoint. Oh, awesome. It was a great track. It was just, uh, that was where I, uh, got the most joy out of sports this week was watching that. What a complete dumpster fire for this.

It's weird to not talk Ferrari guys. To not talk it day off. I feel like I've got some of my racing takes have expired because I, my lifespan of how long these live in my head is not that long. At what point are the Ferrari, is the Ferrari team managers putting their drivers in danger by making the team that car?

To be a very, very big issue. Like the, the wrecks were, the Claire's wreck was not cool to watch. Yeah. Just straight up break failure for Vettel, which yeah, that's tough. It's tough to watch. I you don't come into this. I could don't come into this with any rooting interest for any of the teams in particular. Like a lot of Formula One fans are getting a lot of joy out of seeing Ferrari. Yeah. Just shit the bed this year, but I don't really have anything to any reason to feel that way.

You can tell they've got some Yankees, Duke kind of vibe to him, so I can see that. We're just see, I wonder how Carlos signs his feeling. Yes, because he has been awesome this year. He was awesome this week and just knowing he's going to Ferrari next year. I really like Carlos signs. They were trying to get him to protect second place and he's like, no, I'm going for the next year. I really like Carlos signs. Like they were trying to like get him to protect second place and he's like, no, I'm like, I'm going for the win here. And I think he would have caught Gazzle with one more lap.

And then this really tickled me at the free practice one. He was, you know, he's out there and on the team radio, they're like, okay, yeah, Carlos, it's pretty quiet out there. You are the only car on the track. And he just says, just say I'm P1. You are P1, P1. And apparently a good golfer, a good player in his own right.

Two handicap, we're here. We're gonna try to, try to team up for some content with him in the future. Well, it's Lando, another good week from him. Lance Troll, of course got crowned. Tron's not here to defend him, so we can show him. Extreme crowning, he got by with a sketchy ass pit stop that, free tire change during the red flag.

Yes. Disgusting. Bo Toss was a disgrace, Ricardo, nice week. Lewis Hamilton, I mean, watching him literally just go from 20th to 7th was artistic. I was, like, if there were more laps left, he might have won that thing. Yeah. Which, gosh, yeah. So that's about all I've got. Yeah. Same thing you're missing. Anything we're missing. I'm sure we've missed gosh, yeah. So, that's about all I've got. Yeah, same thing you're missing. Anything we're missing, I'm sure we've missed it, ton. But we, just a programming note for this coming week, we are going to be gone basically this whole week. We are not planning to recap safely.

We have a interview with a Hall of Famer that is set to air on next Sunday night. It talks a little bit. Hall of Famer? Yes It talks a little bit. Golf hall of famous. Yes, as a formula one. As we roll into US Open Week next weekend, we talk a little bit about the US Open with this particular guest who has a lot of experience there and talk about Wingfoot in particular.

And then we'll have a US Open preview Tuesday of US Open Week. And as I mentioned, Harry Higgs episode will come out later this week. So also a quick, almost forgot. We should have done this at the top of the show. Shout out to Walker Trolleyes. We have, we tweeted this news out earlier this week. We've made an investment in the push car company known as Walker Trolleyes.

It is a product we've been using for a long time and something that we really believe in. And we want to do more to kind of encourage people to get out and walk on golf courses. And we want a hashtag make push cards cool again. Maybe not, maybe that's not the hashtag we want to go with. Yeah, we'll workshop it, we'll workshop it. So you'll be seeing a lot of those in our videos and reading that story and learning about how Brad and his team have come up with this design

and this concept is pretty cool. And we're excited to be a part of it. It's fun to have a push card that you're really psyched to go use. Yes, exactly. I believe it's been called the Lamborghini of push cards. Yeah, I don't think I can say it any simpler than that. It's been great.

With that, we are going to bid a due and we'll be back for some major championship golf here coming up very soon. Very soon. 10 days in. Here we go. Maybe nine days depending on when you're listening to this. Thanks everybody for tuning in. We will see you soon. Cheers. Cheers

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