No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 354: Thursday US Open Recap

Episode Date: September 18, 2020

TC and Randy rail on the USGA for the soft setup while Soly and DJ try to calm them down, as the gang reacts to a mild day one at the 2020 U.S. Open. We talk about what makes a good setup, why it play...ed easier than expected, and what we think is going to happen the rest of the week. We talk JT, Rory, Spieth, DJ, Rahm, Phil, and everything else from day one. This episode also aired live on our Periscope channel.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:24 We're back. We're back. We're back. We're back. We're back. Better than most. So, Sally, why don't you talk to us about what we're doing here? Well, Sally is here, T.C. is here, fired up, ready? Hello, hello. The big guy is here. I, I, not to be confused with the big golfer. I don't want to rush through this ad read that we got to do, but these guys are ready to go, and I want to let them have their, have their time in their piece. So, if you're watching live, DJ want you to go ahead
Starting point is 00:00:57 and throw it up on the screen. But, to celebrate the US Open, Calibur Golf has a couple of cool giveaways running this week, one on their website, one on their Instagram, a Phil Mikkelson signed Maverick Driver Giveaway. No I can't give you any insight as to whether or not you might hit this straighter than Phil did today, but on Caligolf.com slash Phil Hyphen Mikkelson, you can go see that. At what point does Phil start playing the B21? You might need to talk as a fellow left that You might need to talk, as I fell,
Starting point is 00:01:25 you might need to talk to him about that. And they're giving a little art history lesson, which apparently went over my head on last week's Ad Read. Look up Pop Art and take a look at this bag from Calvary Golf's Instagram. You can go to Calvary Golf's Instagram and check that out, how you could win that in a giveaway. So, check that out. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Go ahead. Check it out. I like the bag this week. I think it's cool. It's great. It is cool. You're a big pop art guy. You're a big art history guy in general. Is that your big takeaway from today? The golf book? Yeah. No, my big takeaway aesthetically was help bad. The Nike stuff was pre-usual.
Starting point is 00:01:54 The hats are always bad. They've been bad for a number of years now. Don't like Gary Woodland's outfit. Slide either though. Oh, what you hate American? A reprehensible outfit. Gary is decidedly playing for the name on the back of the jersey this week. Where in the hell do you guys want to start?
Starting point is 00:02:12 We have had a fiery. Is that fair to say fiery exchange of ideas today on the text message? Nothing, nothing fiery about today. Our text message was fiery I think. That was the only thing fiery. That's exactly what I was trying to get at. All right. That's interruption number one of 6,000 that's about to unfold. But let's give that solid and take the spirit of gentlemanly. Oh, for sure. You guys take the first word.
Starting point is 00:02:34 No, I think, I think, yeah, it's the only thing. You guys like the setup. Yeah, you guys have no problems at all. No, I think it's a great US Open. This is extremely fair because what they're going to do is not have bring any ideas of their own, no solutions of their own. You're giving your ideas all day. They're going to say, all they're going to say is how bad what we say is. You guys, we're starting from equilibrium. Where? No, you're not going to let us get through a single point. So please, hey, this is, this is your event, your
Starting point is 00:02:59 US Open, Mr. One week, Randy, please go. What did you think of the setup today? It's sucked. Did you guys like it? Did you think it was cool? I thought it was, I did not think it was as bad as you did, but I'm gonna find some common ground with what you had to say. Man, that sounds resounding. No, no, no. Why?
Starting point is 00:03:16 No, everything has to be black and white. Yeah, we're not swearing by this setup. That's what you guys aren't listening to. This is not great. Nobody loved what happened out there today. But you were blaming blaming on the wind. I think of wind. I would say give me show me an event where the wind blew literally zero like this
Starting point is 00:03:33 afternoon where a golf course played fast, firm and angles mattered and it played fiery and difficult. I don't I don't I'm not even trying to stump you on the I can't think of one. But but but wing foot shouldn't have to rely on win. That's a matter of factor that. These guys are so good. And I said this earlier, your issue is with technology. With the modern golf ball, what these guys can do out of the rough,
Starting point is 00:03:55 how they can stop it and all these things. If the win doesn't blow, there's not a golf course that they can't get to basically every penny. WingFat has nothing to do with a lot of the shots that those guys were hitting green side that were one hopping and stopping or sucking wedges back. Let's figure out where we can find common ground. Were the greens too soft?
Starting point is 00:04:14 Yes, yes. Everybody has a rain in the last week, there? No. Everybody agrees. So let's unpack that first. Let's unpack that first. Why were they too soft? Why were they too soft?
Starting point is 00:04:23 And what I would posit is I feel like they're probably still gun shy and still too afraid to really push it to anything that might be, maybe possibly, I don't know, maybe a little bit tiny bit unfair. Why? Because they don't wanna get yelled at. So this is a part where- This is a part where-
Starting point is 00:04:41 This is a spring-spring scrimmage right now. This is just relax. This is the part where I'm trying to agree with you guys. Can't TC and I are fired up. I know, you don't even know what you're fired up about. This is not part where it brings scrimmage right now. This just relax. This is the part where I'm trying to agree with you guys. Can't TC and I are fired up. I know, you don't even know what you're fired up about. This is no one to fucking point. You can know exactly what we're fired up about. Like I'm getting, I will agree with you.
Starting point is 00:04:53 All right, if it's this soft, the pins need to be way harder today. I'm total agreement. Yes, total agreement. I think that's harder. Could it start at seven hours or yet? Yeah, I want to try. I want to read across the dialogue.
Starting point is 00:05:03 You guys will not even listen to anything that we're actually saying about this. So point number two, and where I think my associate keeps bringing up the wind is I don't think that they want to get them right on the knife's edge on Thursday, because if the wind does blow, then they're gonna lose it today and tomorrow and Saturday and Sunday.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I don't think you can go, like, you can't, it's tough to go backwards. Yes, tough to go backwards. If the green died today, and I'm not an agronomist. It's a good thing if you need a green. I don't know how to push them to the edge to the point where you can be as firm as you want them to be and need them to be, have them last four days.
Starting point is 00:05:37 I don't know the answer to that. Do I think that they're better off airing on this side on Thursday than the opposite side? Absolutely. Why, why, why why unpack that for me? Why because you can't go back? I would imagine you can't just like grow the grass in two days if you really need it to but you can go back or like Like the pins there was there's no right Green firmness is one thing
Starting point is 00:05:58 Like just pin wise. There's no reason to have like there was so many middle of the green All locations today. There were a lot. It seems like there's a lot of what we heard coming in was there so many more fingers and there's so many more accessible pin spots now because of the renovation and blah, blah, blah, blah. And it seemed like a lot of the slopes on the greens were like feeder slopes today, which I don't think will be the case the next few days. So I think your natural counterpoint would be, is it a four day tournament or is it a three day tournament
Starting point is 00:06:26 with a practice open? It's a four day tournament. Why waste a day on easier conditions? I would not say it's a waste of day. I think you could get away with hitting it poorly today. For at one point today, I had assumed there were about 45 guys under par with the way you guys were talking.
Starting point is 00:06:42 21 guys ended the day under par. So comparing apples to past ventages of wing foot is the technology that much better, the players that much better, or was the course that much easier? I think it's a little bit from a lot of the columns. Yeah. So the USEA, the people who set up the golf course
Starting point is 00:07:01 have essentially, they have one big lever to pull to try to neutralize the technology gains. Which is the firmness. Which is the firmness and putting difficult pins. And they didn't do it. Why? Hold on, hold on. And they didn't roll the greens this morning.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I allegedly, super tell. Allegional, no, I mean, we saw this on Twitter and we heard it from members all day. I allegedly super was, the super has lived it. Yeah, according to the outside of the cut, we saw this on Twitter and we heard it from members all day. Like, the super was, the super is livid. Yeah. Randy's running outside the cut. We should credit outside the cut. Rabado or whatever his name is.
Starting point is 00:07:31 He was rabid. He was pissed. Yeah. A couple other things. I'd like to seem to take his course back. It's September, not June. I don't know how that affects this. If anything, that should make it easier to keep exactly over the edge.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Listen, you guys are the agronomist, not me. And that's right. I'm willfully pointing out my ignorance here. Two, there were a lot of people pointing out the daylight stuff and how that is. So I'm just TN, I've got a real thing. That's a real thing. That's a real thing. That's a real thing.
Starting point is 00:07:58 That limit the field that much more. You got Marty Jerk. Then you'd have been all over them for not having, you know, a field that was representative. No, no, no, no. It opens, yes. This would have been one of those weird not having you know a field that was representative I don't know how to do that so it's open. Yes This would have been one of those two options if you're worried about pace of play one make the field smaller There's so much fluffer in the field today or two in force pace of play whole guys to a standard to play quick
Starting point is 00:08:16 That I can I can absolutely find guys worry 17. He made seven bird There's nobody mad about that. He never shot under 70 in his life at a US open. He's 40. They were talking about Winkfoot. It's supposed to be one of the most difficult venues. You know what golf's to give you to play your whole life. She got shoved down our throats all week. Look at those road. They trimmed the rough up a little bit. Over and over and this is Aaron Hills. I'm not this angry because who knows how Aaron Hills plays the whole thing about Winkfoot is it's supposed to be an old school this angry because who knows how Aaron Hills plays the whole thing about wing foot is it's supposed to be an old school hard ass us open venue and we didn't get it today. Super city was going to resign and quit and then we probably way so upset but just wait just wait it's going to be brutal this way.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Why should I trust the us g.a. That's a very fair take as well and that's another one that I want to I want to say I agree with you on is but why do we give the RNA a pass on conditions dictate the scoring when the wind is down at a British open nobody's like they didn't get the course fat firm enough They didn't hide the pins hard enough one thing I will say good because that's not their brand first of all exactly and and literally That's not their brand and what I will say is like speaking for this year only and I know it's a different year and there are some other Things brand but the usga literally rolled out commercials with Don Cheatle talking about how hard the US open is and how it should be blood, sweat, and tears.
Starting point is 00:09:30 And it's not meant to be fair and blah, blah, blah. Thank you. And having the first round be look comfy. Pretty comfy is tough. It's tough. I if this was Sunday and we got four days of this and I know your take is that it has to, your take is that it has to be that for all four days. I would say to be looking at the past 20 years of us opens day one leader boards. You know what I'm told up because I please do this does not look that different than what we're using. But again, you're comparing it to like Aaron you're comparing it to different venues. No, I'll throw out all the venues. You ready for them? You can compare it to a wing foot. Pebble minus six, Shinakok minus one, Aaron Hills minus seven, Oakmont minus three,
Starting point is 00:10:06 Chambers Bay minus five, Pinehurst minus five, Marion minus three, Olympic Club minus four, I need to interrupt. You got, that doesn't give me as much, you got to tell me how many guys are under par. Sure, well, I didn't look that up, so. So, I mean, Marion, respectfully, I had to gerrymander the hell out of that place
Starting point is 00:10:21 and still minus three versus minus five and they got dumped on, dumped on with rain that week. Last last time there at wing, wing foot is hosted. What do we say? The most US opens in history. Second six now, second most. Yeah. So compared to itself like in 2006, there was one guy under par after after one. He was out 100. Monty. And he likes custard. The greens are too soft right now. We agree. Yeah, they have So there's so much to be so there it's 70 degrees. It's gonna be 60 It's gonna be like a high of 63 all weekend for the next three days agree I didn't like how quickly the like it the angle stop mattering today
Starting point is 00:10:59 I'm with you on that. I'm just saying, there's no champion being crowned today. And we're gonna get- They're going to be champion being crowned because the whole fucking feels crowned. The crown of whole field. We're not, there's gonna be three days- It's an open book examination of survive in advance and that's what's gonna happen next.
Starting point is 00:11:17 You say that with surety, but what it might lead to me to believe that's true. I'll give it to it until it happens before you say that. What if it's supposed to be super, super windy on Saturday and the winds don't materialize and they set it up easy again like they did on Sunday at 7 o'clock. The second it got to the edge at Chinatacoca. Oh God, let's put the pins in the center.
Starting point is 00:11:34 And now we've got, now we've got Boddenhammer holding everybody's hand. Ooh, that is the line you have to dance. Let's sit around the campfire singing Cumbaiaga. That's the line you have to dance if you're not going to roll back the ball because golf is too easy for these guys with this golf ball which we can agree there that's the us gs
Starting point is 00:11:49 on damn fault yes this is derivatives of own goals this is unbelievable I am I am exponential I just want to be on record I'm not writing for the us g a here I'm just saying like the way the golf ball plays right now for these guys, how good they are. They are up against the wall with setups. And I think this is a fair, good championship. If you look at that leaderboard, there's nobody faking it up there. And if you do four days of that setup again, I don't think we're going to have a bad champion. I don't think it's going to have an asterisk on it.
Starting point is 00:12:19 The scores are going to be lower than people think, but it's still a great championship. Now, do I want to see it get tougher? And do I think it will get tougher? Absolutely. But I just don't think it is as simple as like knowing exactly what the wind is going to do, knowing exactly how the greens are going to play. How many guys are in the park right now? 21.
Starting point is 00:12:36 21. And another 10 or 15. How do you think? Okay. If we get through tomorrow and there's more than 15 guys under par. I will be just as upset as you guys. Is that fair to say? But even the under par stuff, right?
Starting point is 00:12:50 It's, because I've talked to people in the know with the USJ, and they're like, I guarantee you, there's not gonna be around the 60s this weekend. All right, cool, I believe when I see it, but to Randy's point, I agree. What makes you think the USJ should get the benefit of the doubt based on what we've seen for the last 10 years? I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:13:07 A whole heart of the. But hold on also, like I think as soon as there's any sort of like they're gonna get talked off of all these little levers they have to play because oh, you know what? It's gonna it's gonna be gusts of 13 instead of 12 or gusts of 13 instead of nine. And they're gonna be, oh, we can't put that pin there. I know that.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Well, that's what I was gonna ask. Are you more upset about the softness or the pins? Both. That was a question. Yeah. I'm with them on that. The combo of the softness, if it was gonna be that soft, I needed them in more punishing spot.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Honestly, I'm fine. But I believe, I'm fine if you wanna, if you wanna ease people into the pins, answer your question. I'm fine if you wanna ease people in with the pins as long as the greens are firm. Yes, and they're not. So I'm with you there, but I think if they would have gone harder with the pins today, they wouldn't have finished, which puts them behind for tomorrow, which gives us a Saturday cut, which I think they're doing everything to avoid. I know your take is don't make it 144 people in the field.
Starting point is 00:13:56 That's fine, but like this is what we're dealing with in a case play. Or yeah, why won't they finish? Like let's open that can of worms. Because they won't ever. They won't make people play fast. In tournament play, three sums takes forever when it is a hard to reach hole. That is just like the matter of the fact. It takes forever. That's the gate, that's the, the bottleneck
Starting point is 00:14:16 is actually putting out and that's, you would only be exaggerating that part of the game. That would be that much. Take away the money, then see how quick they play. Can we take a quick break here while we're ever getting fired up here? TC, what do you say? I'm talking about the reason everybody's fired up here.
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Starting point is 00:15:51 You have to bring your bottles over if a certain amount of players aren't on a part. I brought this bottle over as a piece offering, okay, for your guys' hot takes on the core setup. Here's a question. Can we get back to this? Yes, please, please. Was today, was today's first round any noticeably
Starting point is 00:16:09 different than Olympia Fields first round in the FedEx co-play? It was easier. Yeah, it was for sure. This was TPC Westchester. That, I'll blame on NBC though, because it felt like a normal NBC West. That's what Fox does is it reminds you. That's what ESPN did. It reminds you like this is different. It's a new crew and it comes with a different energy and there was like a same exact commentary. It just NBC thought that they could, you know what? It's different this week.
Starting point is 00:16:36 It's US Open. We're gonna bring in Jimmy Roberts and have kind of a cheese dickie little. Forget about it. And it's like yo, like the camera angles were different. They did a piss poor job of showing the undulations on the greens, out a whole lot of handhelds out there.
Starting point is 00:16:54 And there's just no context whatsoever. And I get it that they're playing with a limited crew and all that, but man, that felt like a normal PGA toilet. It was kind of boring. It was kind of boring. Let's be fair and point out that they probably just found out they were getting this like. They didn't have a full year to prepare. I also own the golf channel.
Starting point is 00:17:12 That doesn't help them prepare, but your point is well taken. Why they had to move to peacock, I don't get that was that was a greedy disgrace. But dude, the greens is exactly right. Like that's the one thing about Winkfoot is like, man, the slopes on these greens are astronomical. They're unlike anything we're gonna see this side of Augusta, probably even bigger than Augusta, and like, you just don't get the sense.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Everything gets flattened on the TV, which sucks. Except for Zach Johnson's putt. Like, that was the only one where you could kind of see what was going on and that blows. And then we got Fowdo shoved down our throats all day. I don't understand how he became the leading coach. When it comes from the leading voice in golf.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Your boy Terry Gainon got some PT today though. He was good. TG, yeah, I love TG. What? They need to bring Johnny back. They need to fly him in. Can we do the leaderboard before we do coverage takes? Okay, so let's do people.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Before we talk about the leaderboard, I want to apologize to the members at Wingfoot. You guys don't deserve this. That's my favorite, favorite, favorite major chavvy thing. Oh, these members can't be happy with what they're seeing out there tonight. They were livid. You know what I heard?
Starting point is 00:18:16 Maybe they're just not that good. Maybe the courses are that hard. You know what I heard? They had to slow the greens down for the US open from where the members put them. Well, the best part is like Dan Hicks is a member And so he's probably getting texts for all the other members like, yo, this is ridiculous man I'm sorry and then like they're they're getting shit from their buddies at Oakmont and you know
Starting point is 00:18:34 Well, so let me give you guys those are the people that T.C. has the most empathy for T.C. is on a group text with all this as well Let me let me give you One more question please from a from an outlet from a shop that Constantly constantly says pars irrelevant. Why are you still hung up on the constructive? How much are you part? It's not I know that I'm just Explain yourself and I don't well. I think pars irrelevant goes hashtag goes both ways like if pars are relevant Why can't they make it hard to shit?
Starting point is 00:19:05 And is 77s a 77 is a 77? I mean, doing like, do I just answer the, what does it have always have to go easy? Randy during quarantine, we talked about the, I think it was the 19, how old was that? 1904?
Starting point is 00:19:18 You know what's open at myopia? I think the winning score was like 330 something. I promise you. I promise you. I promise you. That's not the comp you're looking for. You're looking for it. You're looking for it. You're looking for it.
Starting point is 00:19:29 You're looking for it. You're looking for it. You're looking for it. You're looking for it. You're looking for it. You're looking for it. You're looking for it. You're looking for it.
Starting point is 00:19:37 You're looking for it. You're looking for it. You're looking for it. You're looking for it. You're looking for it. You're looking for it. You're looking for it. You're looking for it. You're looking for it. You're looking for it. You at. That's what we didn't have today. No. What? Yeah, there was no that's why Jason co-crack shot 68. I'm saying that when the course is softer and easier and blah,
Starting point is 00:19:50 blah, blah, blah, it's not all about par. It's more about like average shots. Yeah, not being punished. Average shots got away with more than they will the rest of the week. That's what we're up. But like, let's underscore it like, maybe it's maybe part of the issue. It's the fact that being able to get up and down from a fucked spot, green side. Like, it's a pain. So your question, a lot of people say this, like, well, everyone's got to play it. Why does it matter? It's like, okay, well, why do you go to Wingfoot?
Starting point is 00:20:13 Like, why don't you go to Flushing Meadows Pitch and put it? That's the question. Yeah. The answer is, you want a wider range of skills to be tested. And you want, when you have pins that are unfair and balls, you have a five foot putt that runs 35 feet off the front of the green, like that happens at a Olympic club, that becomes not a great test of skill, it becomes a random search of luck and that,
Starting point is 00:20:35 it's no longer a championship, it just becomes a lottery. I think that's what they're trying to avoid. I philosophically disagree with that. And maybe now's not the time to flesh it out, but I just possibly could be a better time to flesh it out. I just disagree with that whole premise. I think, you know, it's the one tournament all year that doesn't have to be imminently fair.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Yeah, and every quote unquote, good shot shouldn't be like, it shouldn't have a good result. There should be a factor of, well, you know what, you kind of got bone there. Like who's to say it was a good shot if it didn't end up close to the pin. But if there's no option for, I'm with you and that like if you are thinking,
Starting point is 00:21:16 all right, I got 180, I'm gonna land this right next to the hole and that's gonna be a good shot and it bounds over the hole to the back and you get boneed, I'm with you, like That wasn't the right shot, but if there is no right shot at all, what the hell is the point of having the best players in the world there? It could be you and I there.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Just to see who gets the ball in the hole and the least amount of strokes. That's golf. But I'm saying you could hit the shittiest shot and a perfect shot. And if it ends in the same spot, what are you, what are we testing there? So I'll throw you a bone on technology So I'll throw you a bone on technology.
Starting point is 00:21:45 I'll, on technology, on technology going back to be said. I texted Maddie. He said, leash on the front nine today, leash had the following clubs in Duke, Greens nine iron pitching wedge five iron nine iron nine iron lob wedge nine iron nine iron lob wedge leashish not the biggest ball in the world. And if it was firm, I'd be like, okay, that doesn't matter. Like you might, you might want to be further away, so you can hit a run-up shot, you might want to do all kinds
Starting point is 00:22:13 of different things, but when it's soft, like it's just too damn easy for these guys. A couple of people said, homeboy, up there got a little bit obsessed with the greenness of the course, the little lush as well. But, you know, I don't think that's a clone boy. The super super bad. Rainy's boy. Rabado.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Can we go to the leaderboard? A little bit. Sure. It's just a leaderboard. This completely, what feels like a WGC? There's no good stories. There's no good like underdog things going on. Thomas Peters, a new daddy shop.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Let me push back on that. If it was so easy, this should be even easier for underdogs to pop up but yeah. Continue. So I they're all no no no other way around. No it's not that this is rewarding all these guys are these exact same except for breast and the exact same set of skills these guys and I see this week after week. I'm with you on I'm with them on that one actually that actually makes them okay, okay, okay, okay We rocked You're so unexpectedly laid to that You walked right into that shit. That was one of those it was so bad was good. I think that's my problem like there's no
Starting point is 00:23:16 It's just the same guy. Yeah, there's just oh god JT Yeah, we know he's good, but you know, give me give me a story. There's I don't know man That's what who's Tason co-crack moved all in at the turn Yeah, he's got he's got pocket in the river All right, so what's the store what will be a good story? I want to pull the thread on that what would be a yes story? I'll also keep a mind it's an invitation of this year and there's no qualifying we do have an amateur up there I'll give you Davis Thompson.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Great round. Terrible outfit. Well, and John Pack. John Pack. Yeah. Yeah. A great, I don't know. When, when, I was trying to think about this, who's the last major winner, Francis Wimett,
Starting point is 00:23:59 that's been like, like, he won a major and you're like, oh, he's for sure never winning another year. Dog, it doesn't happen anymore. There are players who are too good. That's part of my, man. like, like he won a major and you're like, oh, he's for sure never winning another year. It doesn't happen anymore. They're players are too good. That's part of my, man. There's too much parity. Or the course is all just funnel.
Starting point is 00:24:12 It's all the same result. The ball doesn't spin. Technology, bud. Yeah. Well, listen, I certainly agree with that. To answer your question, I'm trying to literally think of like, I mean, walkers. Yeah, that's who came to mind for me. But he was really good.
Starting point is 00:24:23 He was a really good player. It's like Corey Pavement. Corey Pavement's trying to make the cut at this event in his prime, not winning. Yeah. Right. And golf is poorer for that. That's all that's all we're saying. It's all we're saying. Justin Tomshot 65 today was a class round of golf. He's the leader. We finally got to it. We finally got to it. Yeah, you want to glow it on a Thursday? Is that what it works for major change? Listen, you can't win it on Thursday,
Starting point is 00:24:48 but you can actually lose it, which I believe some of you guys did with your bets, but we can get to that later. Patrick Reed, 400 par 66 with a hole in one. I wouldn't necessarily say I would expect him to stick around. A lot of people mentioning Danny Willett as the last guy to win a major that you're never going to win again. He was like 13th in the world. Yeah. Take that shit elsewhere.
Starting point is 00:25:05 And he's like, what, top, he's, he's, he's, he's fell for me. Yeah, it's like top 30 player in the world again. That you need to get out of here. Yeah, that's the, does he win? Fuck you, he wins. Definitely. No, no.
Starting point is 00:25:16 It depends. Are you gonna give me the actual brutal conditions? Dude, make it, do that. I'm not taking, they're going to make it firmer and faster. And JT's like top two iron players in the world. He hasn't run a grinding event yet. I feel like I have never he's never just never gonna win one All these guys have been playing fucking mind games with the usga all week This is such a deep oil at things. Yes, it's not true. They're all like all it's so hard It's so hard the winning scores can be plus eight. It's gonna be plus eight like this is ridiculous
Starting point is 00:25:43 Look at this rough look at this rough and all of a sudden the usga. I'm gonna be plus eight. Like this is ridiculous. Look at this rough. Look at this rough. And all of a sudden the USJ, I mean, you do attribute some of these quotes directly to a person. No, all week, always so. There was a lot of talk about that. And then you got, you got, I'm like golf Twitter.
Starting point is 00:25:55 You got the dipshit Caddy who's rolling the ball off the green on one. This is mud. Yeah, this is really fast. So that's part of the part of we don't know that he's a dipshit. Don't, don't prime us with all this carnage stuff and then and then give us this today. I agree with that. I serve ice cream. I said with you.
Starting point is 00:26:12 What I'm holding your feet to the fire on what players did that we read golf Twitter everywhere and it's like people throwing balls and rough and like rough is shocking. I mean JT for instance he didn't say anything bad but he was just like this place is so hard. I love it. It's a great course. They've got it exactly where they, exactly where they want it to be. He just kind of like telling the USJ like,
Starting point is 00:26:31 hey, it's like little, little winks and little like, you know, we'd hate for you to make it any more difficult. Exactly, exactly. And they're actually like, this is House of Cards. There's something that's not, it is, like just incompetence right at them. They're not w waiting right at them. And they just like, he's gonna, no, no, no, no, as much as I like him, this is exactly what
Starting point is 00:26:49 Michelson did with his, with his putt and his, in his shit last year is he, there was a, there was almost a revolver in a car two years ago. Two years ago. Had they lost that course, there would have been an all-out players revolting in the US. You know, already pissed about the purse. Like basically they're floating the USGA for the entire year on their budget. I think there's a misnomer though that the tour players don't want it to play difficult, right?
Starting point is 00:27:14 Because the praise for Olympia, they're kind of difficult. But Olympia, the praise was universal. Like every top player was in love with how Olympia played. And the top guys, like JT and ROM and DJ are rooting for it to be firm and difficult because that's where they're going to have the best opportunity to separate themselves. But they want firm and difficult on to very, very flat pin position. If I could, let me unpack it and don't come me off.
Starting point is 00:27:41 What I think the players are saying is make it firm and difficult and reward good shots. What you guys are saying is make it firm and difficult and random and make it a circus and you could see why the players might not agree with that. But it's some point. But no, I'm not saying that's right. I'm not saying that's right. I just want to underscore how absurd what you're saying is. And the US open brands their own tournament that way. Yes, it's on the edge. Yeah, on the edge, survival of the most difficult. And you've got greens with all sort, you got greens with a mile of edges
Starting point is 00:28:14 on the interior of those greens. And if you're not gonna play with any of those edges, then what's the point of doing the fucking wing foot? Where we can underscore this, and probably all agree is, yes, it is, we agree. If the USGA wants to practice what they preach, then they need to make it a lot tougher
Starting point is 00:28:29 and mildly unfair. Yes. Yes. Everybody agree? Yes. I think we can make it really tough without making it even mildly untrusted. Even mildly untrusted.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Or it's just, but it's gotta be a little, there's gotta be 10% more rubble of the green. But here's part of the thing though, with making it really easy, one of the rounds, is if you make it tough, all four rounds, you have a larger sample size, right? Those bounces are probably gonna go. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:28:54 If you do it only one or two of the rounds, it's gonna be more random. And it's a lot more varied, you know? So just be like, hey, here's where you're gonna get this week. It's probably gonna even out as the week goes along as long as you make the cut deal with it most mentally tough guy wins. Let's do that instead. It's like, you know what? You don't know what you're gonna get day to day and I feel like that's that's almost it's gonna feed into the mind fuck of these guys on Saturday if they show up and it's gonna
Starting point is 00:29:20 It's gonna be brutal on Saturday if it was easy tomorrow, you know? I'll say I do not think today went as planned for them. I don't think any one person saw this mini scores under par. No, I think this was the safety net today. Yeah. At least we know it's not gonna get away from us. And the upside, maybe it'll be really good. But like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:29:38 We were talking to Maddie yesterday, and he's like, yesterday and Tuesday and Monday, he's like, these greens are not getting any firmer. They're soft, they're soft, they're playable. This is not the test that I've been talking about. And sure enough, everybody shows up and it's not the test they've been talking about. I do sincerely wonder if they are at least somewhat limited
Starting point is 00:29:59 with how severe those slopes are. Like four and a half, five percent, nine percent, 10 percent slopes on those greens as to how fast they can get them. I mean, like four and a half, five percent, nine percent, 10 percent slopes on those greens as to how fast they can get them. I mean, so then going back then, then I take back my thing of, all right, I wanna see it, you know, make them firm, don't cut them quite as short, but I still wanna see the pins and the rights.
Starting point is 00:30:17 I would rather see, yes, whether it's softer, greens are slower, greens with the harder pins. It's like, figure out how to do firmer greens a little bit slower with crazy S pins. Yeah. Bring in the agronomists over here. No, I agree. That's the thing. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:37 And like, we're the fans, like you're trying to do. I'm with you. I think if they could do that, they would do it in a heartbeat. If it was like the whole thing is like they brought in, you know, a firm to do a, probably a branding exercises worth tens of millions of dollars. And it's like, hey guys, like they told you what your brand is. Like why don't you lean into it a little bit more. But it is damning if the local super was live it at the set up.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Cause that tells you that the people who have helicoptered in for this week have the guy who knows better than anyone like how far you can push this car. For the first one weeks a year. And who the members and the USJ have taken time to fluff all over the place. I mean, yeah, this guy is obviously one of the best supers in the game.
Starting point is 00:31:20 All right, well let him do his fucking job. He's also been waiting for 14 years to do this in the first day day plays like that. If I felt we were on pace for 15 under, I'd be ringing the alarm bells. That was gonna be my question, is I, you got to admit that there's, I would say, is there any overreaction that like,
Starting point is 00:31:36 you know, this is just the first round? No, I don't think, I don't think, I don't think I don't think I don't think we're gonna remember this round is my point. Is I think we're gonna get to Sunday, it's gonna be carnage, and all you're gonna remember is Saturday and Sunday. I don't think we're on pace for Sunday, it's gonna be carnage, and all you're gonna remember is Saturday and Sunday. I don't think we're on pace for 1500,
Starting point is 00:31:47 but at the same time, my expectation was plus four, plus five, plus six, and we got a long, long, long way to go to the game. We're not getting there. I'm not, I'm not rolling that out. Not rolling it out. I'm not even close. Really?
Starting point is 00:31:59 I mean, I'm thinking, yeah, most maybe even 100, 200. I mean, JC goes and shoots 72, 73 the next few days. Well, you know what these right back to even probably the next day. You know what the crazy thing is Saturday, Sunday, with playing here in the fall. You got a high of 61, 62, 63 degrees. The guy that's going to get the most advantage out of that high
Starting point is 00:32:22 is are the leaders. Yeah. Instead of like, they're going to get the easiest conditions instead of, and the guy is going off before them, it's gonna be cool, cool, cool, and then kind of warming up. So it's not gonna play a different factor. 9 a.m. tomorrow, North Northeast, 13 miles an hour, 11 a.m. North Northeast, 14 miles an hour, 1 p.m. North, 15 miles an hour, 4 p.m. North, 14 miles an hour. It's not projected to get below 14 miles an hour of wind for most of the day tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:32:50 That is going to take care of so much of what we're talking about. I think we're like tomorrow, do they throw the pins and easy spots tomorrow? I think we're totally, I think tonight, I don't want to overstate this, but I think tonight it's a very important night. Legitimately, I think we're at a total inflection point where it's like they can either react to this, which I don't know what they'll say, maybe they'll go back and think this was like a massive success.
Starting point is 00:33:12 But I think they can either react to this, maybe like guys, it needs to get really hard tomorrow, or they can be like, we're killing it. Like let's just, tomorrow's gonna be tough. Let's not lose it. Let's not lose it. And they can keep playing defense tomorrow. That's my set.
Starting point is 00:33:24 I think that we don't know which one it's gonna be.. Let's not lose it. Let's not lose it. And they can keep playing defense tomorrow. That's my set up. I think that would be interesting. I don't know which one it's gonna be. That win tomorrow raises the scoring average with the same exact set up at least a shot. Yeah, tomorrow. I would say at least a shot. I'm looking for the scoring average to go up three or five.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Yeah, that's what I was expecting. And I think they're doing the same exact set up or type of set up tomorrow with waves and all that stuff. And then they ramp it up Saturday. And by Saturday and my mind it's too late. Right. You've played, you've had qualifying basically the first two days and it's a two round tournament. They're, they're going to look at this leaderboard. Why wouldn't they be mission accomplished? You know, fly the banner. Fly the banner. It stinks. Roy McElroy had 300 part of that. 300 bar. That was great. I heard he's a dad.
Starting point is 00:34:02 He is. The mixed blader. He's not. He's the best dad in the field. He's a better dad than Thomas Peter's decidedly. He's the only guy with kids in the field. I just think it's going to change Roy's perspective. Right. But only Rory's exactly none of the other fathers, Thomas Peter's not Dustin Johnson. None of them have any chance at how about Matt Wolff, by the way. Great round. 400 par after finishing T4, the PGA, his first two majors of his career, Loki. His second, you didn't have any top 20s since.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Something like that before he's been set up. And then if he gets another top 20 here, that's a couple of Detroit. I just wouldn't have picked him as the guy to play, like play the best golf, you know, on, I was getting ready to say the most difficult. Golf course has been a one of, I want to rel the most difficult. Golf courses, but I don't wanna. Randy, I wanna relitigate.
Starting point is 00:34:47 I got a hugely important question for you. How far back is too far back? I'm not even ready to call that. I would think plus three, I was gonna say like, yeah, plus four goes out and shoots 66, 65 tomorrow. What's the, let me ask of, I actually don't care about the answer of that question. So let me ask another question.
Starting point is 00:35:08 No, I actually absolutely do not know the answer. What's the low round tomorrow? I'm gonna say 68, 67. A couple of 66 is at least. You said someone could shoot 63 tomorrow, make it grow out of the field. I said no, I said DJ could shoot 61 and he'd probably only get a couple strokes off the field.
Starting point is 00:35:27 You're such a sick guy. It was too easy for DJ today. I think he abstained. I think he should. Tremendous restraint. I think you're protested the round. What else we got to get to you? Anything?
Starting point is 00:35:37 I mean, any other notable performances? Yeah, I mean, we should come talk about Phil. Phil. Phil's thing. Phil's thing. The two birds so early, we're like, okay, it's weird that that wasn't sustainable. Blowing it 30 yards left,
Starting point is 00:35:49 what you've been list with three woods too. Getting him up and down. Oh God. It seemed like he was, but I don't get it, he had all those fairways that was our national. How could he not have hit him at wing foot? You know when, when Neil likes to get,
Starting point is 00:36:01 he tries to like will himself into fake confidence. Like he clearly doesn't have it, but that he just does the whole like, oh it's coming, it's like, he tries to like, will himself into fake confidence. Like, he clearly doesn't have it, but that he just does the whole like, oh, it's coming, it's coming, he's back. Phil was doing that with the like, shouting for the fairway, like, go in for 200 yards. And yeah, just, then he got taken off by the, the Ghana Paul Bears after that.
Starting point is 00:36:18 But quite a little round. Zander Shoffley, 200 parts. Yeah. Especially as a, like, as a favorite. I feel like he's been, you know, onto the whole TAR. I'm not favorite so much. Especially as the odds out favorite.
Starting point is 00:36:29 I want to give a shout out to Brennan Todd yet again, for this is maybe the eighth golf course I've seen that I'm like, nope. Not Brennan Todd. At some point, it's like musical chairs, and he doesn't have a chair, but he keeps fine in the fucking chairs. Call him more, call him more,
Starting point is 00:36:44 call him very disappointing, 76 today. You know what, I'm willing to give him a kick. Call him out. Call him more, Kawa, very disappointing 76 today. You know what? I'm willing to give him a pick. Give him the rest of the season, have him show up at Capulua. Yeah. And just, you know, I think he is, I think he is, no, I think he is, pledged his loyalty to the PGA tour and the PGA of America. I'm a WD commissioner in waiting. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:37:04 I might be re-bridging the PGA. I will say, if you were off remote lane today, the course still exposed you. Like there's some high scores out there. What do you mean by off though? I guess what the iron play? Well you're just making a lot of vote. You're just making a lot of...
Starting point is 00:37:19 I think it was the dry. I was just trying to string a bogey's. I didn't think, I didn't come away thinking you have to hit fairways on it. No, I'm with you. No, but look at the guys who are out there. We're long guys or mega scramblers like Patrick Reed, you know where it's like,
Starting point is 00:37:31 just get it up around the green and you're second-chung. But Wingfoot has open areas in front of the greens. If you miss the fairway, you have chances still, especially when it's this soft guys, we're able to stop balls out of the rough. As the week goes on, I expect that finding the fairway
Starting point is 00:37:45 off the tee is gonna be more heavily emphasized than today. All right, let's do a little exercise. That's why I don't think Reed is lasting. Yeah, so there's three guys in minus four. Reed, Peters and Wolf. Who do you think has the most staying power there? Probably. I think it's Peters.
Starting point is 00:38:01 I just don't know what he's been doing recently. That's on me. But I have no actually, I never know what he's doing. He's not playing well, he's got like three, nine or 10 months ago don't know what he's been doing recently. That's on me. But I haven't actually never known what he's doing. He's been playing well. He's got like three, nine or 10 months ago. I know what he was doing. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:38:11 You're a bad guy. No! No! All right, so. I'm not saying wolf. You're saying wolf. I wanted to take wolf, but you might have swung me on Peters. He has the game for major.
Starting point is 00:38:21 He's such a driver. He's such a driver. And you know, like Peters is like Ron Light. Everybody's like, yeah, he's not getting upset at anything. Well major. So he's a driver. And you know, like, Peter's is like, Ron Light, everybody's like, yeah, like he's not getting upset or anything. Well, and now he's a father. So it's just so totally changed his perspective. He isn't stabbed anyone with a trident.
Starting point is 00:38:34 I guess, okay, he has two top fives and majors. I did. He's got a T-46 and he's kind of a low, he's a dog. He's a dog, he's a killer in training. I think he's a thorough, he's a thoroughbred. He's like a rock-wilder. He hasn't had a top 20 in a major since 2018.
Starting point is 00:38:50 It's been a minute for sure. So Wilson, neither of any of us. So, all right, that's the comp for sure. Big golfer minus one. Big golfer look good today. He's couldn't make any pots. If the greens were so bad, apparently that's what he said on on feature group coverage which is good that's yeah you might be in for this we have both well I'm getting word from some wing foot members
Starting point is 00:39:12 that the super reports may not be a hundred percent accurate oh really oh but I get the feeling of that's just wing foot members that feels like maybe some damage feel like you as you are yeah counter intelligence how many wing foot members do you know? I know so many. I feel like the super should. I'm deep in the mat. He should take it upon himself to really become the story this week. He's like Joey Crawford or Tim Hawke.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Absolutely, exactly. Exactly. Joey West. I did get a random DM. Is that your girl? A random DM that, you know, may have mentioned that there might be a covert op midnight run amongst the ground screw to go roll the greens. I mean, take back your course.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Take back your course. You have a chance to save our national championship. Or you can just follow orders. You know, a lot of people have been following orders. They got themselves in some bad spots. All right. All I'll say of the guys at minus three. You got.
Starting point is 00:40:09 That depends on play. Rory Westwood, Ustazin. If it firms up and gets windy, I don't love Rory. I don't love Rory either. I thought it was, you know, a decent round of golf today, but he's a new father. Yeah. I don't know. He didn't sound overconfident going into it and I don't know
Starting point is 00:40:26 I'm with you if it firms up. It's not a westwood guy. I've heard something There's no grass. They're gonna not have to chip and put it So you don't really have to chip all that well like there's plenty under your cloth If they move it to top golf Westchester, I would I would be down with with Westwood all right Of the guys in mind is to get so many good Previous finishes. Oh and majors to call back on which fucking good wine. There is at Westchester. The best the best Cross section co-crack Todd Harris English absolute fall on the fall. I mean
Starting point is 00:40:59 Rafa Cabrera Bella. We've never we haven't talked about him. He could be the he could be the dark horse here Bella, we've never we haven't talked about him. He could be the he could be the dark horse here. Uh, walking. He's potentially dominated it. Rafa's not going to be around by the end of the day. And he's a man. Who's a standard? Sander for Sander is going to finish top five. All right. And then the guys in minus one big Sean Norris. Uh, Boris Sabatini, John Pock, the big golfer, Tony Fiennell, John Rom or Ricky.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Rom, Rom. Rom's not going anywhere. I think Ricky. I'm gonna say Ricky. Ricky looked a little confident today. Ricky has not done anything so many activities. Well, Mom's got to be feeling good. He's been in the lab though.
Starting point is 00:41:37 He putted that lime into the cup for these corona actions. Yeah, corona premiere. Yeah, cool. Uh, Rom didn't make anything today. Bryson didn't make anything either though. Well, when it gets more difficult Ram gets better. Bryson does not and it's about to get more difficult if we I think we've covered Ram is gonna be a factor. We have a small sample size of firm hard golf courses this season and I would say Ram has You know asserted himself on them. Can we talk about speed yet? Hold on. Can we talk about JT? Why have you guys just brushed past it?
Starting point is 00:42:06 He's four sure gonna win. We'll talk about JT tomorrow night. Let's talk about JT tomorrow night. I don't want to see more from him. JT's, he's, he's, he's, he's are such, these are not what kind of age well. I want to talk about Matt Wallace, AKA Mike Wallace pulling the, pulling the band today.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Having the, having the flag tended. He had a chucking the chip I'm chunking that was that was that was move out of all of our playbooks. That was special and then clapping at Porter on Twitter Did he today? Yeah tough scene can't can't lay even grab it ears. You gotta be feeling good. Sure. I didn't know that was me Yeah, I feel pretty good You know we got so at even we've got Wallace, Van Royen, Bizzadin Hoot, Cantlay, Kurt Kinayama,
Starting point is 00:42:51 exceptional European tour player. I thought he's a manipulator. He is, but Chun Yu don't know who that is. He's an amateur. Michael Thompson, your boy DJ, Sung J.M. Zach Johnson, Will's Allotorous who almost had probably should have had two a That was they should have given him to it You know like the last six months where people have been like ah, I do if the pin wasn't in like yeah
Starting point is 00:43:12 You could just take that one that was shot going too fast What are people chiming in on the questions about as we uh didn't Bryson say though that like the the usj has a different Coefficient restitution on these I think so you've been out of front of this per usual per usual made fun of per usual and turns out to be right well he said these greens suck today right yeah he said these greens are so bad I believe is what is what he got hot mic to say I love it he needs a huckleberry exactly good luck and invited back to wing foot a lot of people shouting out of course, the goat story from Scotland.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Gill head, it's the wing foot. We're wherever it is. That was all time. You wanna tell the story? Oh yeah, so we're in the, so we're at X-rayl, which has two golf courses. One is like a course literally built in the 1700s.
Starting point is 00:44:01 The other one is Gill head's first course. It's like 1998, it's called the Craighead. And I'm asking the guy in the pro shop about, what's the other course? I'm gonna play the new course. It's the woodhead in the Craighead. And he's like, yeah, it's Gill Hans' course. He did it like in his first golf course, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:44:17 And he's two like older couple like pop out from the back. And they're like, Gill Hans, he did wingfoot, where were members? And they just hop back on their tour bus. Which that story alone is kind of like, you know what man, I hope the winner's fucking 25 under. Whatever. And over the years, that voice has gotten so exaggerated.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Like he said it nothing like that. But now in my memory, he said it like that. And they've got like nine pieces. They've got winged foot shorts, winged foot belt, winged foot hat, winged foot polo. Oh, it's just such a laid back. It's just so laid back. How about, did you guys hear the story, DJ?
Starting point is 00:44:55 I said he didn't remember that he had actually played winged foot before. Ones brand. I don't believe that. I think that's DJ play. You think he's setting a message to the USJ? No, no. Do you guys remember when we did the pod with him?
Starting point is 00:45:08 And I was like, yeah, man, you won the Northeast am. He's like, oh, dude, wanna voice it. That place is sick. And they proceeds to take us through the first nine holes that want to voice it. Well, maybe, because he won that one, he probably remembers. No, he's bad ones.
Starting point is 00:45:20 I think he just purges. Okay, that could be true. He's a genius. Can we please talk speed? Yeah, he stinks. Oh, yeah, that's what we need to talk about. Stinks, yeah, what did anything change today? I turned it off.
Starting point is 00:45:30 And there's a cocaine ride for a little bit. Totally, I turned it off after he made the three straight birdies. I just like, I know it's coming down. Oh, he finished great. Did he lose the ball in the tree? Or was it just up there? But like, why didn't he climb the tree then?
Starting point is 00:45:40 I think the three minutes was up before it was found on camera. I think that was my, my guess on it. But yeah, he started Bogey double, including a loss ball, then made three straight birdies, but then Bogey 10 and double 12, birdied 15 and then Bogey 17 to shoot 73. But it was on the range three hours later, working on driver. And I, I was reading his, everyone was kind of reacting very strongly to his press conference, I guess, in his quotes. They didn't seem that bad to me. That seemed like pretty honest. Yeah, I'm just...
Starting point is 00:46:09 It's pretty self-effacing. Just searching, man. It's not like he's had some results that would suggest otherwise. I think people are trying super hard to be like, oh, look at what he said. He's so lost. Like, oh my God, he's lost. Like, actually, he's got a pretty good wrap around.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Like, yeah, it's not going good right now. I'm kind of faking it. I'm trying to figure out a way to fake it around here a little bit. I'm hopefully gonna get in the lab and figure it out eventually. But like, right now it's not there, but like, just sit tight.
Starting point is 00:46:33 We'll see what happens. I'm gonna say the same thing I say every time, which is if you don't think he's coming back, like, that's fine. You can dunk on him. You can dunk on him all you want. Go ahead, enjoy, revel in this. If you do think he's coming back, like me,
Starting point is 00:46:46 it might, it's not gonna be this week. It probably won't be next week. It will be the masters of all. I think it'll be eventually. It's like dude. And it won't be hot and heavy as before. Just let him figure it out, man. Just let him figure it out.
Starting point is 00:46:56 How old is he? 26. Like 26. 27 I think. Or 27. He's in the 27. Here's my only problem. Hendrix and Jim Morrison.
Starting point is 00:47:04 All those people who died when they were in the 27. Don't. If he's gonna admit he's lost, 27. Here's my only problem. Hendrix and Jim Morrison. All those people who tied with their 27. Don't. If he's gonna admit he's lost, I want him to actually go search. I don't need him videotape and shit on the range. I'm kind of, it was brand-o that alluded to that, but he needs to actually, like go do a walk about. And I need him to go hide.
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Starting point is 00:47:48 Hockeyley, where it's like just making himself a part of the story. Oh, and we look at Hockeyley's arms. Look at that super, he cares so much about his golf course. It's willing to sacrifice his career. Can we talk about the peacock? The guy's peacock is fine. I want to, I'm extremely biased by our own experience,
Starting point is 00:48:06 but it just was like changing the channel. Like we put the little microphone button on the TV and we said peacock and then it switched to peacock and that was, but it's Comcast system downstairs. Extrity is, yeah. Granted, a lot of other people had horrible experiences and I feel for all those people because like, put that sucks to basically have a channel that's literally
Starting point is 00:48:26 the golf channel. Like, no, dog, we're not putting on there. It's not like they're running up against anything. It's not like there's like LPGA or Euro Tour. We're gonna try to, we're gonna try to juke all these boomers into subscribing so they watch the office reruns. Like, fuck off, man. You're talking the morning.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Why are you talking the morning? That's what they're doing tomorrow. That's what they're doing tomorrow. My question was, is it different starting with coverage streaming leading into TV coverage? I would say it is. Like ESPN plus leading into TV coverage. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:48:53 I felt like premium coverage, whereas like, hey, we're good. We got the whole crew set up. And we're making you flip to an app. That is a little looking at me. Lou Brown had, for a year's old, had one of the best things he said, pound it in BC. I'm not going to do a bunch of hustle dick work to use some slap dick VP's performance
Starting point is 00:49:13 metrics. He should have finished it with suck my peacock. I would urge everybody to go check out Ian Polter's Instagram story today where he goes off pretty hard on peacock. That was pretty rich, especially as you're playing for $55 million per person whatever it is this week. Can I shout out, 55 million, that would be a big ask for.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Well, that was exaggerated for humor, personally. I wanna shout out the group at plus one, because I think this is- The group oh, that plus one. The group of Selena's at plus one. JT Poston, who I'm still convinced is the best JT in the world right now pound for pound Andy Sullivan Martin Kimer
Starting point is 00:49:50 Thomas D.T. Hedecki who made some these like Hedecki cannot put these greens. I mean he can't put any greens We'll check it out. Maybe no one can put the greens which Hedecki can Adam Scott Lucas Glover Corey Conner Sebastian Munoz is having the year of his life, Chan Kim, Taylor Pendrith, Renato Paratore, the Shlong, Cameron Smith, Andy Ogletree, Honest Abe, Victor Havlan, Romain Longesk, Shugo Imihara, Ben on Lanto. Are you just reading the leaderboard? Yeah, we're doing a good job. Adrian, I'm talking about Phil.
Starting point is 00:50:24 That is such a diverse group at Plusfit. That is. That is. So are you just reading the leaderboard? Yeah, we're gonna read this. Adrian and Todd were still about to be a better such a diverse group at plus that is. That is. And I want to say, I think the biggest thing to me that stuck out to me about wing foot today was the fact that Lanto is plus one. That you're saying that's condemning? That's damning.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Or Sabo made seven birdies. Yeah. I'd say one or the other. I think we're not even gonna acknowledge it. I think we're at the Lanto part of the podcast which means it's probably time to wrap it up. All right. Biggest disappointment today. DJ. The 100% the USGA. Aside from the USGA because I think that's obvious.
Starting point is 00:50:59 More Kawa. I would say more Kawa as well. All on what a DJ shoot. To three over I think. Who could say? Yeah, three over. That's easy. QB readin' the leaderboard. Plus three. Yeah, it's a huge disappointment.
Starting point is 00:51:13 All of everything that happened in the months leading up to this is worth nothing if you go and shit the bet to you as a favorite. Reach a brother, but he may have been abstaining. I'm so sorry. There's going to be somebody's going to pull, somebody from the PGA tour is going to poison your bed tonight. Please do it. I gotta do a sleep study tonight,
Starting point is 00:51:29 so it might help me actually. Really? Yeah, sick. It might have sleep apnea. Oh, sweet. Yeah, I'm looking into it. Oh, good. I think burger from the whole burger shop
Starting point is 00:51:37 I'm stuff out of it too. What are these here? Plus three. Or allegedly, shut himself out of here. Plus three is not out of it. Plus three is not out of it. I know, but they gotta go, they're tied with, you know, Mike. Set a different way. Plus three is not out of it. I know, but they gotta go, they're tied with, you know, Mike. Set a different way.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Plus three is not out of it. He's Jim. Speed and tiger are plus three and they're out of it. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's, I think that's well said. We should wrap this with no cat talk. Cause that's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Guys, I already paid the cat on Tuesday. Yeah. And he looked like maybe he was appropriate. There were gasses leaving his body. And he looked like he was alive for a minute. It was a dead cat house. And then then he yeah, finished bogey double I think give me out of here buddy. I gotta go watch the bangles. That's true We got a little brown tonight. I'm Scott. I'm so excited. Yeah, that sounds really slow from two point
Starting point is 00:52:16 Oh, let's all the tight ends. How many people are still left? Not not as many as we had before so let's cut it off there. Thanks for tuning in, though. Cheers! It's gonna be the right club. Be the right club today! That is... Better than most. How about in? That is better than most. Better than most!
Starting point is 00:52:42 That is better than most. Better than most.

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