No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 357: Sunday U.S. Open Recap

Episode Date: September 21, 2020

Welcome to the new age. Bryson obliterates the field at Winged Foot, and we try to place his performance, his future, Wolff, Rory, DJ, setup, NBC, and everything else from U.S. Open week.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm gonna be the right club today. Yeah! That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most. Randy is here. Yeah, good evening. Tron is here. Hey, can I say one more thing? No, thanks, Tron. Thank you. Now we're gonna play you out. We got, it's football night in America.

Sorry, Bryson. Tony Dunge is coming on, Bryson. Coach Dunge. Bryson got cut off trying to think a few more sponsors on his way out. I do wanna know what he was writing in his, in his no pad on his way, on his way down the, the 72nd.

I think you surmised it was a list of the haters. You wanted to make sure he wasn't gonna forget. I was hoping a diss track would be coming. I would generally think it was a list of sponsors. I think it was. It very well might have been. That is to ourselves. It really is.

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Anyways, go to Cal My Golfs YouTube channel for that. All right. Where do we start? Bryce. So with Bryce and I would think just baptizing the field. Probably the place to start. Great stat, as I'm sure will quote many from Justin Ray, friend of the program, most strokes gained.

Total in the final round by a US Open Champion since 1960. Johnny Miller's, of course, is 63, 10.7 strokes. Bryson DeChambo's 7.9, a couple Arnie and Jacks in between there, but it was a complete masterclass today, man. Like, before we get into all the other shit we're going to get into with Bryson, I feel like we need to vigorously point out how impressive that was today. He was flawless. He rocked him.

I did not think that Wingfoot was gonna be the spot where he all of a sudden developed touch with his wedges and was shaping shots and judging how the ball was coming out of the rough perfectly and getting it to stop when he needed to, getting it up and down, leaving it in the right spots. Just that was as much as it was a bludgeoning of the driver. Like you can't just win it, you can't win it, win it by just bombing it.

Like you had to hit a ton of really, really, really good golf shots. The firmer it got today, the better he got wedge wise. He was landed in shots short and running them up. I think, yeah, it was a complete examination of golf from him today and he passed it. It was, I think we said this a lot throughout the week, but one of the things was, you know, there's kind of a false narrative probably going through about, you know,

we need to, you can just bomb it anywhere and it's just all about length, length, length. And I think that tells half the story, but you still have to hit it in the corridors and more specifically, you still have to, when you miss the fairway, you still have to, it in the corridors, and more specifically, you still have to, when you miss the fairway, you still have to, you know, if the pins jammed over in that right side, you still gotta hit it on the left side of the fairway,

or a lot of those things, and Bryson just, dude, he just was like stress-free today. As stress-free as it could be, playing golf course, that difficult. Can we unpack that a little bit? Just like for clarification on the discussion around, driving it, accuracy, all of that, which is that the stat of fairways hit

is extremely misleading, and despite them telling you many times that you got to hit fairways when the US open, as DJ Pyle always likes to say as well, if we're not saying accuracy off the tee is not important. I say a lot of people that are like, well, you just bomb it anywhere and go find it. It's like, no, dude, they said,

these guys hit it. It's missing in the rough, but not missing by very much, where your angles are okay. There's openings in the front of greens, and you can survive. So it's also this week, they did graduate the rough.

Well, it was three inches next to the first cut, and then it was four inches into the trees and stuff, which I think is probably the right thing to do. Yeah, sure. I like when it's set up for God. But like going back, like do Azinger and all these guys like not have access to strokes gained off the tee? Like what the fuck? It's been around for like a decade now about almost. I just don't understand it and when they got to 16, you know Roger Melpys, like I like three wood here better than driver for Bryson.

I was like, what are you really? What have you been watching? Are you serious? It's by far the easiest club to hit the ball. Yeah, I just don't get it, man. We can talk a lot about setups and future golf and the USGA and all that, but something's got to change. You can't just go long narrow with thick rough,

because you're gonna get these kind of leaderboards and you're gonna get Bryson up there a lot. Thick rough means a thick winner. I think that's four as joined by new campaign. I think Tron was vigorously pointing out all week was you have to have the green, the greens really firm, which they were today, but they weren't, yeah. It was like, that was inexplicable

why they weren't that way all week. What was the most impressive part of Bryson this week for you guys? The fact that, I mean, Steve Rabado, the superintendent has to resign now. For you guys. That's a job killer. That's tough. That's tough. Oh, that Bryson is, that was, I was wondering how that tied to Bryson specifically, but only guy under par and for background, Rabado, I guess, said that he would superintendent. Yeah, he would he would resign He would quit if if there was a single player under par this week

And you know what Steve Tron Carter is gonna hold you to that. I'll accept your resignation Tomorrow morning. It's on on my desk tomorrow morning. The good news. Oh, we're gonna train him as a coder He's gonna be coding in no time I wish people could see the serious look on Randy's face that he says these things and does not crack and DJ just absolutely losing it. He's talking about universal-based income as well. Exactly. I thought I was told so welding school. They had a bunch of commercials this weekend. Is that national or is that just local? That's gotta be local.

I always was wondering, yeah, do you have to go to Tulsa? Hopefully it's just in. No, it's in Jacksonville. That one's in Jacksonville. Really? Yeah, it's called the Tulsa win. Yeah, so I'd reach out to Rocky Perkins event for some more information on this.

I was, I'm like, as I was saying. What was the question? Well, I don't even know. What impressed you about Bryce and the most? Oh, he was all four rounds all week. I mean, 70 or better, four days. Like, he just did not. He did show any weakness.

Yeah, and I really, as I'm sorry, somebody said it earlier, like his distance control and his ability to run shots up and play a different variety of shots was super impressive. Like round three was the one that he looked squirrely, he looked like, and then 14 holes in, I'm like holy shit, Bryson's only won over today. This is jarring, if you're ready for this.

Stroke's gained off the T, 5.38, approach, 6.98, approach around the green, 5..42 putting 4.59. Yeah, I was yeah, it was not just a bludgeoning drive it, you know, wedge it. It was a complete performance. And that's what I was going to say as I was asking that question. I'm thinking about my own answer and I'm like, man, you know what? It kind of was just everything.

And if you allow me for like kind of a lame answer, I think it was like his demeanor more than anything was it seems like. You're exactly right. That was lame. It seems like exactly the kind of place where he could have hit it in the wrong spot a few times and totally freaked out. And we would have got some great content out of it, but he just didn't do it, man. He'd like, when he hit it out of position, he chipped it back up there around the green and made par most of the time. And God, his putter looked amazing. It was just all that. All of it. And the crazy part is, no one thought he could do it. Everyone, no one thought he could, you know,

compete hitting the ball way further than everyone else in very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very that's been even the least bit critical of it is Neil, because he's definitely gonna get hurt, man. From an injury perspective. Yeah, yeah. I will, several me a culposed issue in my end, when I saw his strategy of like, oh, I'm just gonna bomb driver and go find it. I gave him the Ghana Paul Barron meme

before the week started, and that got old takes exposed. I actually called, I raised my hand in alerted old takes exposed to say, I'm reaching out to you guys on my own behalf. Come get me, because I missed this one. But I think like, just from the larger thing, like yeah, he copped a bunch of shit for the single like, Nires,

but as far as like kind of rebuilding your game, I know it like it takes guts to rebuild your game and change everything. And literally your body. Yeah, but at the end of the day, like I don't think anybody was like, yo, why would you do this? It's paid off.

I mean, he statistically increases his chances of getting the ball close every yard that he gains off the tee. And I think there's, yeah, it sucks when the broadcast narratives get warped like this. I remember when Ricky won the players. And they had the, you know, but that was the week where it was like, oh, he was just named

the most overrated player in golf by his peers. Like that's a legitimate, it's a legitimate thing. It wasn't overblown, of course, but like, that was a legitimate thing. This is so much more like, oh man, like Dave 64B79 on Twitter has just been like in Bryson's ass. He didn't think he could do it. Dave, check it out, man.

There he is. He did it. It's like, I haven't been a lot of like credible criticisms of, like you said, so I like, oh man, he's totally boned. Now that he hits it so far, I also think it's going to really come back to the point. It's not that people like don't believe in what he's doing. It's like, they just don't like him. Yes.

And those are two very different things. Extremely different things. And the only thing that they did not flesh this out very well though, I will say, and I somewhat lump myself in this too, that there was chatter even when it started of like, oh, US open that'll never work. That was set 100% by a lot of people. And some Dave 861 and B28, but also some people that I actually, whose opinions I was gonna say. I mean, I probably thought it,

like it was, this is very surprising to me. This type of performance at this type of course. But I guess, he just undressed Wingfoot, like, I tell you, that was a fucking phenomenal point. And that's where I will say, like I'm with you both, like I'm sure I thought that as well, but when you really break it down, like this is where it's like, man, you shouldn't both, I'm sure I thought that as well, but when you really break it down, this is where it's like, man, you shouldn't have thought that,

because what about the US Open? Does anybody ever go back and check the stats after the fact? Or you just hear, oh man, fairways, I used to watch a US Open in the 70s, man, you gotta hit the fairway. It's like, yeah, it doesn't really work like that anymore. I don't know if nobody's ever gone back and fact check themselves on that,

but yeah, I don't know why that narrative keeps propagating itself. Well, it's coming because it's from people that have played in these things. Lee Westwood, like this tournament used to be about hitting fairways. And he said fairways and greens. It's like, dude, yeah, it's still like definitely

about hitting greens, but yeah, it really hadn't been about hitting fairways for quite some time. Yeah. I don't know. It's a weird crossroads of a lot of things and technology and all that. I think we'll probably get into that some on the back half, but just off to chat about. I was going to say I don't want to get into the morning zoo crew yet and rehash the setup stuff.

But before we do, I wonder what could they have changed about the setup, I guess, to help Bryson Proofit? I don't even to help, you know, Bryson proof it. I don't even think it's about Bryson proofing it. I think it's about making it more conceit. Like I think if anything, it was gonna be a more historic performance if it's more similar to Sunday, all four days. All right, and I have no problem with that. If it's a total runaway and it's tiger at pebble,

they identified the best golfer and they did that, but it felt like they did it more on Saturday and Sunday than they did the full week. I think we can all agree around one in and round three, played different than rounds two and four. Yes. Just from a firmness and difficulty, I think. I mean, Bryson's combined round one and round three scores. I'm gonna do a round one. I won't on round three.

Okay, but like he he was trailing Louis by, you know, a combined four shots if you take rounds one and three. And so I think like what could the USGF done? It was like make Wingfoot almost as easy as they could. I think brings in all the other guys and gives everybody else a chance. Like it's it's counterintuitive, but I think that's the way they could have brized it. I think they gotta go into, I don't know if it's Tori,

but let's honestly, four to 500 yards shorter for the next tournament. That was the only thing I kept laughing about whenever they're showing the promos, is you just see this week and it's like, oh man, thick, thick, rough, narrow fairways. It's like, it's gonna win it. Okay, oh man, thick, thick rough, narrow fairways. It's like, it's gonna win it. Okay, you know, I know that didn't really work,

but wait till we get to Torrey Podge, then it's gonna be even tighter. It's gonna be even tighter. The grubs gonna be even thicker. It's just, yeah, it's gonna be the same thing. Well, if you wanna restore fairways mattering, I don't know if it'll matter matter, but if you wanna restore at least a little bit, give someone like Brennan Todd a chance. If he's hitting a to restore fairways mattering, I don't know if it'll matter matter, but if you want to restore at least a little bit,

give someone like Brennan Todd a chance. If he's hitting a lot more fairways and he's got eight irons in instead of five irons or whatever he's got, he can compete better with Bryson that who is trying to hit wedges out of there and start. And from the work range. Yeah. No, it's incredible.

Matthew Wolf just to finish the point was eight shots better than Bryson in combined rounds one and three. Right. Bryson separated himself on the hardest days, like, like, lift in separate, especially today. Yeah. And I don't think the wind was a massive factor today. I don't think it was a massive factor any day.

I think it is the lead contributing factor to scores being high, like it's seeming more difficult on Sunday and Friday. But I thought, I mean, I think the wind was going whipping a lot more on Friday for sure. Friday for sure. I think then it was today. I think today was a pretty conscious firming of the greens. Like the greens were a different color, they were a different, and I don't know if you guys want to get into this now, but like I am down with that.

Like I think it was cool. No, well, I should say. Should say. Yeah, I'm down with the way I progressed. I thought it was, and I know this is gonna be unpopular with half of my constituents here, but I thought it was like a really good progressive test. So I'm not gonna be mourning zoo.

I've done that this week, but I do wanna say, I feel this sincerely. People were like, dude, this bit is tight. Like, it's not a bit. I thought it felt a bit schizophrenic and that like, had you changed round two and three, then I can buy the progression a little bit more, but rounds one and three just seemed markedly different to me,

and it felt weird, I guess. I think it is a totally fine variable for rounds to feel different from round to round. I think it asks a little bit different questions. It's like, hey, all right, can you compete against the best players in the world when it's kind of gettable right now? Now can you compete against them?

When it's firm, can you compete against them now when we have the pins a little tougher today? But I get step by step, it's like, if it's steered to a point where it was stopping to identify the best golf shots and the best players in this week, I could get on board with what you're saying, but I think throughout the week, it was like a constant barrage of questions

being asked these dudes. And if you slipped up for six holes, you may like six bogeys in a row, no matter what the day really was. And you know, we see a lot of the highlights on the easier days, we see all of JT65, but like Dustin Johnson shot over a par when it was super easy on Thursday.

Like it was not, it wasn't, it wasn't, it was too easy for Dustin. May have been, which he refused to participate. He abstained. He somehow got T5. I really don't understand how that happened. I'm giving him my runner up, TC. I think he would appreciate that. He was second low school around two and four combined. I think going back, I talked to a guy on the ground screw and I talked to somebody else

who has a colleague on the ground screw and they basically said, yeah, they found, on Thursday, they tried to find the easiest spot on 12 or 13 of the greens. Balls are ending up in that spot. And that's where I will, that's not a US open, man. Yeah, but that's where I am gonna like, lean on my own ignorance of like, dude, I don't know, I don't know how, I don't know how to set up a golf course. So I'm like, and I know you're not saying that you do,

but like I get how they would need to, they would want to wait into it slowly and keep building and building and building rather than like shit the bed on day one and then be behind the eight ball and then like they've lost the week. Because we've seen that from the USDA or they lose their balls when shit starts going bad

and mid tournament and they did not do that this way. The fact that they didn't push a little bit harder on Saturday though, once they had Thursday and Friday into their belts, it's like all right man, like you know what you've got here. Grass, like these greens, it's 60 degrees. Shit's not dying in mid-September up there. It's 60 degrees.

You can stress these things for four days straight and they're gonna be totally healthy on Monday. That's where I fall. We can agree to disagree on round one. I would have preferred it harder, whatever. I would have to. Like it was a little soft day one. Like no one's denying that.

And I think it's more entertaining when it's more firm That it was Thursday, hundo Pete the yeah, I'm with Tron the disappointment was in Saturday It seemed like they just backtracked and I thought that was needless. What did you think of today? I really enjoyed it I thought today was good. I thought there was variety that moved up a couple of the pins. I don't need to see like Carnage for 18 holes, but I do wanna see Sabatini. That was awesome. I wanna see some guys look like fools for it's razor-thin margins,

and if you don't pull off a certain shot, cool, the ball's coming back to your feet. Shot to the rib on number one today. Yeah, that was awesome. Yeah, guys laying up on number three, I believe, or I don't know if they were actually laying up, or if they were just bad shots. There's a difference between, I'll get into that. I want to run on a four- I don't know if they were actually laying up or if they were just bad shots.

There's a difference between, I'll get into that. Well, don't ruin a funnel for me. I want to believe they were laying out. Billy Kasper laid out. Because that's awesome. He truly laid out. I think Patrick agreed that before. I think Patrick agreed just to bad shot.

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They've been pushing the limits a little bit. On that point though, on the pins and funnel pins, I found these pins were so good. It, with a little bit. On that point though, on the pins and funnel pins, I found these pins were so good. With a little bit of variability of wind, it was so interesting to watch guys try to get near them and that yes, there were opportunities out there to funnel balls in there and get good looks at birdie.

But why I love these kind of bold, slash funnel pins so much is, it's not an easy shot to get it into it, but it is what we're calling it, it's a bucket. If you get in into it, but it's like it is what we're calling it It's a bucket if you get in this bucket you have a great chance for birdie However, if you do get it in there chances are your putt is not gonna be very easy because you are dealing with severe slopes Even if you hit it down to four feet, you know You know these balls that are trickling getting closer and closer and closer, but don't get all the way to the hole

Your putt's not gonna be easy, and I love that balance of like, here dude, you can make a birdie if you execute this. Wolf had a couple of those today. The putt of Bryson had, yeah, Wolf had some crazy tough come backers, but the putt of Bryson had where he didn't quite get it into the bowl and he had to go up along the edge and then basically puttin' a 90 degrees. That was yesterday. No, today.

That was the one today. I had one. I'm thinking of webs, but yesterday. So that point is like, all right, that's your challenge for your approach, and if you miss it with your approach, getting in those bowls from some of those spots around the greens is super difficult.

So it goes from a very quote, air quotes here of Easy Birdie to a very hard par, very quickly. And I think that on repeat is like how you really identify who's super dialed in both with their ball striking and strokes around the green and whatnot. I think there's another element that's being maybe got missed for good reason. Like I just don't, you know, there's so many variables to consider before a tournament, but looking back, you've got Bryson and Wolf, two guys who can bomb it, launch it high

and everything like that. They're not having to worry about cutting dog legs and figuring out the angle and really shaping it up a dog leg. The holes are pretty, I mean, you guys both played it, you know, obviously. I'll be it for good for good for the days and stuff. Just having been there before and been in the corridors, does it look as straight, it's a lot straighter

than you would expect a lot of other major championship courses to look like. It's just weird because you look at so much rough and it doesn't have, there's not a lot of good elevation change going on with your, in terms of like, you don't get a great views of the fairway and you just look at these fairways that are kind of curved, they kind of look like they should have trees around them

and they've just like taken out all the trees. So it's just, it's just kind it just kind of looks a very unnatural golf. Like why it just looks like the fairway should be like twice as wide as they are. Three times as wide. Yeah. And so it's kind of like, you mentioned earlier, but it's like a hazel teen kind of thing.

Yeah, it's like the fairway bunkers are set off the, you know, off the fairway decently far. They don't like make you think about your lines really. It's, you're just kind of bombing it and hoping to miss on the proper side. Proper side for the angle into the green. Correct. Yeah. There's not like a lot of stuff you got to avoid.

That's kind of what, you know, it was kind of lacking in terms of defense. There wasn't, it wasn't much thrill to watching the t-shots at all. There wasn't like a, oh, can he cover this bunker and make this happen? Can he avoid this? I mean, I don't love water on golf courses, but like there was no risk of going in the water on some of them And there was no, I don't know. It's the first week I've had where it was kind of a mild thrill when someone would hit the fairway Especially in the last group like seeing Bryson When you actually saw the ball come down in the fairway and start running you're like oh man, yes

We haven't seen that in a while. That's what a great job. I don't Understand the people that love watching rough, the people that just say, hey, grow it, it's gotta be even longer. Do you guys like what, I'm exhausted after watching these guys play on the rough for four days. I want a gust that I want them to cut all the rough out. That would be the best thing that they could do.

Second cut. Or whatever they call it. Just trying to save you to choose. That would be the best thing that they could do today for the game would be, all right, you know what? We're gonna cut it back to exactly how it was in 92, 93, and basically say, you know what,

like, we're gonna firm the shit out of the greens, and you gotta worry about your angle of attack into the greens. We're kinda gonna neutralize at least some of the disc, and they're still gonna have an advantage down there, either. It's like, it's just, we're not making it like an exponential advantage. Yeah, so, go ahead. No, it's just, we're not making it like an exponential advantage. Yeah.

So go ahead. No, I was just going to answer your question about, do I like seeing guys just whack it out of the rough? I think, I think I placed like wing foot, it works because of the run-ups to the greens. And you have these big, undulating greens. And with the ball coming out of the rough, you're going to get more roll.

And so you get to see, oh, you know, is it gonna roll all the way through? Is it gonna catch that slope? So I think it works at a place like Wingfoot. That's why I was... Especially when it's few and far between. Yeah, exactly. Like, we'll go to...

Not every week. We're touring next year, and it's not gonna be quite as fun just watching them hack. I even just mean on like week to week PJ Tour setups. Sure, like it's not that's not what anybody, but it's a force carries into greens and they're just playing outside. Well, is that gets tedious for sure?

But I think I place like wing foot at work. The other thing is there's not like all roughs not create equal right? For me to rust far different than this bent or bright grass whatever it is. And that's where I bear with me on this one. I think that there is a argument that it was easier out of the rough for certain shots on wing foot than coming out of the fairway.

Like I'm watching, when it gets windy, any kind of hurting wind or kind of a crosswind going in, you're hitting shots off the fairway, you're hitting shots that are gonna have way more spin. I felt as somebody who was rooting for Wolf today felt very uncomfortable with a lot of those shots because it's that much harder to keep accurate. Whereas, he left the room.

He left the room. He left the room. Right. Out of the rough, the ball's gonna spin so much less. It is a lot easier to play Bauti ball. Get it on track, right? That's why I love hitting off northern, out of northern rough, the ball goes very straight.

Right. And so that, I think there wasn't, to that point of, there's not a great balance of like there's so many open areas in front of the green that it was very, not advantageous to be in the rough, but it was just like there wasn't that punishment for being in it. Going back to those open areas,

like that's what it seemed like, just like I went back last night after we, like I was like, am I crazy? Like I'm gonna go back and watch Hilaroo Win or I'm gonna go back and watch highlights from Ogle V and all that. And it is wild to see how much wider the approach is. It seems like the hand stuff made it a better golf course, but maybe not as good of a championship test.

If that makes sense. I know what you're saying. I think in relation to par, yes, but I also, I think you have such a, it's a better exercise to have huge ass greens and tuck the pins in the corners. And to your point, I think that they probably could have pushed the pins harder than they did. And I think that's feeding back into the pins thing.

Yeah. So is it, like, scores are going to be lower with bigger greens. That's just is, you know, I have way more opportunities to hit them, but there's way more risk reward. I'm like, all right, am I gonna try to get close to this left pin? That 10th green today, there's tempting, guys. There's so much green there, but they were luring them into going to that back left pin

and Wolf tried to get back there and it didn't work out great for him. And that is more interesting to me, is it gonna result in lower scores, 100%, but man, some of the old images from O6 of those greens, I don't think that would have been the final watch. That doesn't do it for me either. I'm not saying one's better than the other. I think this current way is objectively better as an exercise of golf, but just as a strict

punishing from the rough kind of thing. Yeah, I would have definitely made the rough more punishing if the greens were smaller and there weren't as much run up areas. T.C., you mentioned something earlier, a phrase that I know, Randy, I'm sure this tickled you as well, but when you said Augusta could cut the rough, that'd be the best thing they could do, quote, for the game. Can we talk about the game as it relates to Bryce and Deshambo a little bit, because I think this was something, John and I were talking about in the couch today.

I felt like today was a massive... Can I interrupt you before we do it? Just so we can go totally, interruption-free for the remainder of this program. I'm like today was a massive... Can I interrupt you before we do it? Just so we can go totally interruption free from the remainder of this program. I'm sure you don't want to do like a clever segue? Like Bryson, you know, he's just, he's so close to the greens, maybe he doesn't even need a rangefinder. God, that was a bit...

I don't know. Come on, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I was gonna say that some, you know, who else is great for the game that's our friends at precision pro? That's a much more optimistic thing. He played some, Bryson played some phenomenal golf over the last four days under conditions that this is in the copy so I'm gonna say it

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So we have confidence, hit more greens. Best deal of the year, please don't miss it. Sorry to hold you back, Deja. No, no worries, listen, Bryson hit a lot of greens. So that was a great, that was a necessary segue. Andy shouted out a lot of sponsors. Andy shouted out a lot of sponsors, exactly. Where was I going with that was a necessary segue. Andy shouted out a lot of sponsors. Andy shouted out a lot of sponsors. Exactly.

Where was I going with that? So the game. Tron and I were talking about the game. As we're one. The rapper. The rapper, not the rapper, the game that we all love. And I felt like today, so we, I tweeted something snarky, just like, oh, it looks like people are losing their reasons

for all these things, why Bryson's not going to work. He doesn't put, well, it doesn't work at majors, blah, blah, blah. Basically what you're left is like, yeah, well, he makes me angry when he plays well. It's kind of what a lot of people are left with. And I very much sympathize with that. None of what I'm about to say or what I have said should lead you to believe that I think he's really cool, like a really cool guy who I just love watching win, not the case. I think today T.C. for a lot of those people, I think where you can find solace, I feel like it's

got to be short term pain for long term gain. Do you want to explain what I mean by that? Yeah, it's the game, it's going expedite some change in the game. We don't know who will, but I think that's our only hope. I mean, if this doesn't, if what we're witnessing, and it's not just Bryson, there's other elements too, but I think people are finally, like the lights are starting to go off a little bit of like, oh shit, the bog is so far.

The only thing that matters is just swinging really hard and then you can fill in the rest after the fact kind of thing. Kind of like what Bryson's done with his putting, where I think that's the most remarkable thing to me about Bryson is the fact that he's turned his putting from a weakness into a strength mode, some weeks. Some weeks.

While looking hilarious doing, that's the underrated part. And Clint Novak asked this question, how long does it take for the USGA to seriously enforce distance control? Well, so it's gonna take a long time. So like, going to... We've got a couple more years of this before like anything happens.

So going back, like I think, I mean, like Wolf had what he had pitching wedge, he'd drive a pitching wedge into nine. Into nine, to the hard five. Yeah, it's like, you know what, like, if this doesn't make the USGA, like get their attention, then like nothing will. So I don't think it's like, you know what, like if this doesn't make the USGA, like get their attention, then like nothing will.

So I don't think it's going to be just this. I think like it's, you know, we talked about Augusta, like there's going to be a lot of people who barely watch any golf and the masters is the only thing that registers with them that are going to tune in and be like, whoa, what the hell? This guy's hitting it so far. And here's this come from. And it's, it's really hurt And here's where it hurts though. Those are people who don't like to be made,

the Augusta people I should say are the people who don't like to be made, you know, to look stupid. Bear with me on this also, because what I'm about to say, you're gonna have a tough reaction to it initially, but like the USDA, the people, they're not idiots, right? No, of course.

They're not blind to this happening. They have seen this happen and willfully not done anything about it, which is especially troublesome for it. This is not going to be the moment that I don't believe this is the moment that causes alarm bells. They've seen this coming. They know this.

I think it's less alarm bells for them and more alarm bells just in casual conversation and golf circles of like, hey, this is the reality now. We either need to embrace this now, and it's gonna be the reality into the future, or we change it now, and it's gonna take the next five years to change it. And I do wanna give some credit, and maybe this is too much benefit of the doubt,

but it's not that they're doing nothing. Like, outwardly yes, they're doing nothing, but clearly, clearly this is the, like probably the top thing they're thinking about with like the distance inside's project and all these different things that they've, they've been studying this for a really long time and it's a massively complicated issue

that they can't just like flip the switch. That's all they do is study it. But that's where I'm getting at is like, that's where I'm going with, you know, it's not like they're gonna watch Bryce in this week and then put out a press release tomorrow. Like, you know what, nevermind, we're putting our foot down. Like, this is gonna take years and years and years and years

to figure out, but that's where I'm going with is like, Bryson is the way forward. Like, if you don't like what he's doing, it's very counter-intuitive. You need to root from to win more, honestly. Like, break the game. Just break it. That's the only chance we have, I think.

Is that foolish? No. No, not at all. It just makes me chuckle. You could take this exact conversation and apply it to other things in our world. Yes. It's just 100%. Very funny to me.

Yeah. And if he keeps drinking all these protein shakes, he's fracking a release lot of methane into the air. That could be the whole thing. I think that's what you're alluding to. We got to watch that too. I thought where you were gonna go too is like, for all the people that hate Bryce and,

you know, if you watch Rasslin, if you're a wrestling fan, you know, sometimes you need the heel to win. 100% I said. Oh, man, that's gonna be, that's gonna bring so much more emotion and, and you know, like it's a long game in that respect too. Like we gotta build this guy up so we can all root against him down. He's so much more talented and such a higher ceiling

than Patrick Reed. For instance, Patrick Reed's our best heel and golf, but he can only do so much. Right. I would go as far as to say, I don't like Bryson as a person and I root for him. I enjoy watching him. I like watching him. Oh, I think he's so great theater.

One, I think he's great theater right now. I think it's gonna get tiresome very, very quickly. When like if he keeps doing it over and over and over and over, like, the smarter he thinks he is. That's a big one too that I had on my list, which is this is going to be awesome. Emboldened him so much.

Think about all the shit he said when he hadn't won anything. And now he's literally, he changes entire body, he did this seemingly asinine thing. It completely worked. And he won major, you know, he won one of the first two majors he played. And he could have won the first one as well. Everything he does is validated,

misting the golf ball. Like it's all completely validated. It is going to, he is to ramp it up to you. You hear that price and you are right, you're 100% correct. Put it in every face, get that much more arrogant. He is going to ramp it up to a billion.

And he's going to get more media coverage, he's going to get more, I mean, it's going to be, I'm here for it. I'm going to be fantastic. But you know what is great about it especially is that he didn't set out on one path and follow it until it worked.

He was like, all right, I'm gonna do this. That didn't work. Okay, now I'm gonna try this. Yeah. I don't know what was the light bulb that went off of, like I'm gonna now bomb it, but it is now he's just opened up a whole new world. And it took like, he used to put side saddle,

he used to do all the crazy shit. Yeah, like, and he's found out something that is going to work in every aspect of his game. And it's awesome. He's the only dude out there that really is doing it this way. And I think the big content came along the way. Exactly.

And I think the big thing, not to shift away from the Bryson is hilarious bit, but they were saying on the broadcast, like, I don't know, is this going to make a bunch of other guys like rethink what they're doing? And like, I don't think, I don't think there's very many tour players that can just, okay, I'm gonna just pack it up now, I'm gonna go in the gym and rebuild it. That's the biggest horror story in golf,

constantly and consistently. Like that just keeps happening. Other guys can't do that. This is a freak thing that Bryson's done. What it can do is what I think, Azinger very, small, kind of like alluded to, which is if you're a high school golfer

watching this, if you're a middle school golfer, like just swing your face off, man. Hit it as hard as you possibly can. Bones said, I mean, that carries more weight with bones saying than Azinger. And that's where I think like a kid can do it from the start, much easier, quote unquote,

much easier than, you know, look at his playing partner today. Jordan's beef isn't going to go like, you know, the problem is like I'm maybe speed. Do you do it? Oh, as I was halfway through that. I was like, wait a minute, actually, this, this, this thing. Yeah, that's the thing. We talked about it a little bit last night or two nights ago, like we're, yeah, bones said, period point blank, like straight up. He was like, if you have young kids, teach them to swing as fast as possible

and get as much swing speed as possible. That's the only thing that I, like that's my only piece of advice. And it's not just about getting it far down there. It's the swing speed's helping you get the ball out of the rough when it's in the rough and you're hitting more lost at irons into it and you can stop the ball.

Like it is just the golf ball. It's a, I don't know, we could spend 50 minutes talking about just how it's possible with the current technology and it's just the golf ball. It's a, I don't know, we could spend 50 minutes talking about just how it's possible with the current technology and it's just a never ending. I hate getting into the discussion on Twitter because you just can't, you can't make a complete point in 280 characters, you can't make a complete point in 2000 characters.

It's, there's just nuance and complications to every second of it, but these are the kind of, this is the scene you're left with if you have a golf ball and equipment that is gonna allow this. And if I could summarize it the best way possible, it's like, well, it's not Bryson's ball, like he put it all the way, and it's not, but it is possible to swing it this hard

with not very much risk involved with it, relatively speaking, to prior equipment errors because of what the current equipment is. There's a reason why he is currently able to, and why no one in golf history has done it like this. It's like tennis. It's a lot like tennis where the men's game tennis just got so, I don't know, just like serve, serve, serve, and to clear drive, drive, drive. If he swung like this with persimmons, Bryson would still hit it further than everyone, but there'd be a whole hell of a lot more balance to it and determination of when to actually try to crank that up in their builds.

The ruff would be, the ball would do weird shit out of the ruff and his dispersion would be even to give you, even to give a little more credence on that point too. Like it's not just Bryson. Like, you heard this stuff there talking about with Matt Wolfe before the round two where he's like, you know, yeah, this isn't really the kind of, I know it's kind of the place where a lot of people would lay back and maybe try to be a little more conservative, but yeah, I just don't play like that. I just hit it as far as I can and then we kind of figured out from there.

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Because why don't these long drive dudes, you know, for sure, you know, they're so good. I think he's the perfect guy to be, he's the perfect messenger, like you'd be different if, if say Adam Scott did this, right? And Adam Scott, I kind of quiet and just behind the scenes, he's like, you know what, I'm going to bulk up and I'm going to hit it past everybody, and I'm gonna reinvent the game. Now, it's so much different when Bryson does it, and throws it in your face and tells you, all the reasons why he's doing it,

all the bullshit reasons why he's, that have nothing to do with why he's doing it, but that just make him sound smart, and then, you know, and then all the sponsors, like he's, it's just, the whole bit is so insufferable, and like over the top, like he's, it's just the whole bit is so insufferable. And like over the top that it's so polarizing, that like going back to our,

for the good of the game talk, like that's, that's the thing that's gonna bring it to a head. It's been, yeah. It's just, Phil's gotta do this, right? At age 50. I feel like he kinda is. Oh, tell her, he is, yeah.

I know, but yeah, not cool. Not cool. To that point, it's like, it's not easy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not, and yeah, not cool. To that point, it's not easy. It's not, and yeah, did everything you said trying to like, he just, the guy was created in a content lab. Like it's, to that point, real, and it's just gonna get,

I marked my words here, it's just gonna get more outlandish. I tweeted this earlier and I couldn't, this was, I hit a character limit of the things that he's done since, since this year, which is put on a million pounds, became the longest hitter in the game. He fought some ants. He made a 10.

He berated a rules official shortly after that. He called out Brooks Kepp because abs, he cooked bacon shirtless, said he wants to live to 130, y'all did a camera man for damaging his brand and had his caddy block a camera. I forget if I said that one, and then he won the fucking US Open. Also not even on the list, the potential dog controversy, was the dog alive, was triggered alive,

or not alive, the thing KVV tweeted about how, what was it? The laser, he, the laser was technically like illegal under federal law if it hit a towel or something. If it didn't hit the towel, he had to deflect it off a tower or something else. It was illegal under federal law. Uh, well, breaking news here. I forgot about the dog.

David Faredi said, is there a Nobel Prize for golf? If there was, you have to think this man would win it. So he's also a Nobel Prize winner. Wow. Potential Nobel Prize. If they could, should the committee choose to extend into golf? Can we go down the leaderboard a little bit? I don't even know. Don't with Bryson right now.

So Bryson, what's the next thing? What's he gonna mess up? Honestly. He's gonna get, like his head is just swelling and swelling because he's that kind of guy. And like, that's the thing. I don't dislike Bryson because of a lot of this uncore stuff. I've just heard a billion stories about this guy

is a dickhead. They straight up dickhead. He treats people poorly. He's not a good human. And something's gonna happen along the way here. Sticking to the golf, I guess. Not even that we should stick to the golf, just that that's kind of what.

Is it gonna get his ass kicked. One of these days. Like, A, I would say a physical altercation, like he might get his ass beat by somebody. B, like, this is the deflating part for the Bryce and Haters. And I feel like we said this a lot after Detroit and even before that, like, he's gonna drive it long and pretty straight, like most of the time, man.

Like, that's not gonna waver. It's not like he's gonna go through a six-month stretch where he's like, oh shit, I forgot to hit it, I forgot how to hit it super, super, super long. Look how quickly fixed his governor. Exactly, all the governors were intact today. Exactly. But it's like, dude, I don't,

I know there's, he brought Rick Perry back in. I know there's, there's recency bias out the ass every week on this podcast and we can predict him for 55 majors today if you want, but like I don't see a lot of, I don't know why it's not, unless he gets hurt and that's maybe the simplest answer to your question. Like what's gonna break or what's gonna screw up

and like maybe an injury, but. There's gotta be some sort of PR controversy too, right? But yeah, that stuff just seems to wash right off. It's bolden them even more. It's outrageous. And the thing I'm putting all my hopes in here, and this is why I say I think it's short-term pain for long-term gain, is like you said, Randy,

the villain needs to win, and the legend needs to grow and grow and grow and grow. So that when Jordan's Beef gets his, gets his form back at Augusta versus Bryson, it will be the ultimate, the ultimate golf tournament. David versus Calais. Yes. That's going to be the pinnacle of golf. That's like Hogan versus Andre the Giant.

It's exactly, exactly right. How about Bryson shouting out Mr. Nicholas? Well, I think he was asked about it because it was the stat on like only so many people have won the NCAA and USAM and the Nicholas medal, right? For winning the, I think that's what some positive. I just feel bad for the members. I know, I know. So many people out there.

There's four members up there, Rick Patino. Coach for out there. I'm good. Can we talk about some wolf now? I might be bricened out, I think. We can probably circle back around. Sure, I'm sure we will. I would say anyone feel free to just inject bricened thoughts into the conversation

wherever it need be. Okay. Wolf did not shoot a 67, a 68, a 69, a 70, a 71, a 72, or a 73 this week. That's a wild stat. Solo second at the US Open. You're not willing to crown him, Ranny. I'm mad.

Not, not when he shoots 74, 75 on the two clear days where like the course was different. That little exposed for my like, Matt Wolf I, he won the WGC? Yes, exactly. So it's what would you say for the rest of the field that didn't finish runner up? You know, I think a guy like,

I think Webb Simpson, a guy like him got robbed this week. You know, he was playing a proper US Open All 4 rounds. Check it out, there might not be a proper US Open anymore. No, it might not exist. Listen, all I'm saying is that that just when there's that big of a difference, man, There might not be a proper US open anymore. It might not exist. Listen, all I'm saying is that when there's that big of a difference, man,

it just, I don't know, something's up there. How about Matt Wolf finishing T4 in solo second in his first two majors of his career? That's pretty solid. I believe I mentioned he's supposed to be in college too. No doubt, right? Not a lot of people are discussing that. He just, he didn't look comfortable from the fairway.

Going back to that. No, it was, we couldn't talk about this. We didn't do many fairways. Literally, not too many fairways. We talked about this Saturday night. It was just kind of like, I feel like he was vibe and hard and he actually was in the flow of things Saturday and there's just no way to like fake getting in that vibe of you're just out playing golf with your buddies

in the final pairing of a US Open. Even though fans, I think he tried his absolute best to simulate that and didn't change anything he was doing. How about, he's walking up, I don't know who's y'all in that. Somebody said it was DJ walking up like, say, how do your wife eat for me? That was, right? As he's talked directly into the camera,

that was a lob to the content gods there. I just, I don't think there's any simpler way to sum it up than like he's 21. It was his second major. Right, you know? Yeah, he's probably gonna be pretty fucking uncomfortable in a couple spots. But gotta be, gotta be promising going forward.

Yeah. And that's it. Sure. Oh, really to give him that. It was at least a good way. Yeah, I don't know. I said my piece. We can, we can, we can, we can, we can, we can, I just found it, you know, I think he got, he got crowned a little bit.

Randy Ustazins, right? And that same shot 67, 68 on Thursday, Saturday. I don't think he was ever really in this, I mean, Zander, Zander felt like he was much more in it than, than, than, Louis. And then they both, the five straight bones. And it was like, all right, that's not, like this is a two horse race now. What do you guys make of Louie? It's just weird, like I don't, that's, that's,

you simply doesn't care. We, that was the joke forever, like he'd rather be farming. Yeah. I just don't, I don't know how to place it, right? I mean, when he's only leaderboarded in a major, I'm like, oh yeah, that, that makes sense, but like you know whenever things have been

when he plays poorly. No, and I feel, I feel like, oh yeah, that makes sense. But like, you know whenever things have been when he plays poorly. Now, and I feel bad thinking, like, I love Louis. I love watching him. Obviously the golf swing has been a billion words have been written about that, but he's, I feel the same way, kind of, when Hideki's up there on the top of the leaderboard. It's like, I just don't even,

you don't even show these guys. What are you doing? Come on, they're not gonna win. I mean, Hideki don't. I mean, Hideki don't. I mean, Hideki don't. I mean, Hideki don't. I mean, Hideki don mean, he definitely wasn't gonna. I was shocked to deck. He didn't like, the putter didn't get hot this week.

That's so weird. That's so weird that under extreme press, under extreme pressure wasn't when Hideki's putter wouldn't get hot. Just like, we had a little talk about it earlier this week, but going back, like, just his putting mechanics. Oh my God. No shit about putting mechanics.

I texted a bunch of my coaches about this. Actually, I did text a guy like, hey, just like for the record, like I don't know shit about mechanics, but like, his, his putting mechanics. I texted a bunch of my coaches about this. Actually, I did text a guy like, hey, just like for the record, like I don't know shit about mechanics, but like his, his putting mechanics are really bad and the response I got was bad would be the ultimate compliment for his mechanics. The hands keep getting lower and lower and lower.

Looks like he's trying to hit like the flip draw with the flip. Oh my God, it's worse than I even thought. He lost three, over three and a half shots to the field on the greens alone this week. It's just not gonna do it. Only guy, a female, was T8 in lost strokes to the field. No one else in the top 20 lost strokes putting. Such a comfy week for Tony in this week.

Oh yeah, Tony, T8. T8. That was news to me. That was truly shocking when we sat down with a podcast, I hung up the scoreboard. The leader board was like, oh, not surprising. He struck the shit out of his irons.

He gained, he was second in the field and struck skin approach this week. So, it's got to make some pots if he wants to. It felt nice to be burned by the rib again today. That was, you got burned? Yeah, I did a little bit. He kind of, he kind of fucking fooled me a little bit on Saturday.

The rib that real thing was a The real thing was in the fronter. Thursday. Thursday Saturday. The TPC, but he had the, he just, he had some grind to him yesterday. He had a different look on Saturday and then he comes out on the, literally the first hole. It hits a putt that rolls back to his feet. He had four pots and four pots for six. I'm like, God, what? Foo me once, you know, shave on the for shave. I think I think everybody's everybody's rubber the green. Fooly wants to get a Fooly again.

Everybody's rubber the green of the week. Hair singlish first of all today. Well, before we move on from Rory, just so it's not, you know, Bryson just bludgeoned one this thing with his driver. Rory led the field and strokes getting off the tee this week. And Bryson gained like seven shots

on Rory with just approach play alone. So that was a baptism. Yeah. So apparently Rich being found here at Singlish's ball way after the three minutes was up. Where was it? I don't know. I don't know. Behind it. But going back to Roy, what? Roy's putting stats. It gained three and a half shots on the field this week on the grounds, which that's a good, that's a good ass putting week. Bubba lost six shots to the field, I'm seeing. Bubba's shoes and red shoes, what you think? It's not good.

I'm shocked. I'm shocked. I did wonder how the hell DJ, ZJ finished in the top 10 at this set up and he led the field in the truck scheme putting. Giga. 10 shots on the field, but Ricky, last in the field of guys who made the cut in the truck scheme putting, that's, he's the best put shots on the field. But Ricky, last in the field of guys

who made the cut in the truck's game putting, that's the best putter in the world. I know, that's crazy. That's how you know the greens are too gimmicky, right? Zander, what do we think about Zander? Another, I mean, another step in the right direction, right? What else? You thought it was not so much?

Five bogies in the back nine, when you... Well, yeah, that was horrible. But he needs to, I don't know. I think if the shot doesn't fall back, the false front on 10 and that thing gets close and he gets some momentum on the back nine, I think it probably looks a little different. Yeah, could have easily.

And then he was kind of pressing from there. Zander's had a real crossroads for me. I can see a few different paths we're taken here. I see whiffs of a very rich man's Patrick Cantlay where it's like, dude, it's time to shitter get off the toilet. He's only 26. I know. Ready does not give these guys a long life here. Yeah, I can see pass. It wouldn't shock me if he goes the rickie route. And it's like, dude, he was close a lot And he just never I was gonna ask for a cover one of majors. Sanders played in 13 majors now

He's made the cut in 12 of them. He has nine top 25s 7 top 10s and 5 top 5s That's a lot and that's a different path where he he banks one. I don't see anything That's a lot and that's a different path where he he banks one. I don't see anything Yes, two runner-ups. I you know if we're power ranking guys like in terms of who you taking gun your head He's he's there many guys I'm taking above them. So I don't think he's gonna you know bank a ton of majors I Certainly wouldn't be shocked if he wins one here, but I know I don't know it just seems like he's So I want to get out of here. Yeah, I want to get out ahead of this because I know, I don't know. It just seems like he's, so I want to get out of this.

Really good player. But yeah, I want to get out ahead of this because I know exactly what I'm doing. I'm just flipping the Fina thing right back at you because it'sander, but he strikes me as much more of an example of somebody who's like, dude, he's played like pretty nice and it just hasn't like bounced totally his way.

Oh my God. What are you? More than Fina. More than Fina. All right. So he's won a tour championship and he's won a WG. Yes. He seems like somebody who's been, he's played really like exceptional, exceptional golf and

just kind of like gotten beaten in some spots and seems like at least in the major. I mean, he's won four times a tour too. Yeah. Like, let's not put him in the same combo with Fina out here. No, but I'm saying it's the same kind of thing that like, solid will say about fina where it's like, I don't think field events. You know, he's in that, he's, that's interesting. Well, let's keep an eye on that. But it's the same kind of argument where it's like,

you know, he just, you gotta put yourself in there and sometimes it bounces away, sometimes it doesn't. I feel like Xander, I don't think he like gets, today I know he made five straight bogies, that was not good. But I don't, he doesn't strike me as a kind of guy who goes out leads by three three and then kicks it away. Like that doesn't, I think he just hasn't happened yet.

You guys wanna get to a couple questions? Sure, sure. What a thrill that would be. I think this is one we're gonna have to do for as long as we don't have fans. Yeah, go on, just finishing up the leaderboard stuff here. Zalatorus. Mr. Gilmore, you're sad.

Exactly. What did his stats look like? T-Degrean. I can pull that up for you, but T-6, Taurus. Mr. Gilmore, Exatinal week. What did his stats look like? T to green. I can pull that up for you, but T6, I think it's safe to say for Zalatorus, and if you're not familiar with him, he's having an insanely good season on the Cornferi Tour. He is probably the guy that has gotten

boneed the hardest from professional golf standpoint, of course, as far as the wrap around season and... From a professional golf standpoint. Just... as far as the wrap around season and from a professional call. I was more so, you know, saying for I was getting ready for COVID. Yeah. So I wouldn't necessarily because you're bad bad people. Congrats to Will's Eleethorus. He gained almost eight shots with his approach play alone.

He led the field in amongst professional golfers this week at the US Open and Strokes Game approach. He might be Mori-Co's son. He, he very well could, but he's about to crack at the top 100 in the world, I would think. Yeah, and the day he got a great tour. Love him. I think he's a top 40, top 30 maybe player in the world already.

And I say he needs to go special temporary membership route and start zapping up those sponsor exemptions. Try to get your way onto the tour. There's no. He's too good. There's no court. And there's I guess there's three corn ferries. Tort. There's Wichita this week. And then they've got Savannah and then one down in Orlando. But other than that, there's none left till next February, or like end of January, and I fell in. That's true, so yeah, you can, it's not like he's giving up on anything to do that.

Oh yeah, I mean, he's got his card wrapped up through the corn fairy season already. And then JT, I think we need to address JT. Do you want to, you wanna apologize? I'll apologize, yeah. I, that was another one I think I got fooled a little bit by that, by round one. And obviously blinded by my own bets this week,

went heavy on JT and, in every bet, which turned out to not be such a good call. But yeah, you just got fucking exposed, man, with the driver. That was painful to watch on Saturday. And obviously didn't look like it was great Sunday. Flash some signs of life coming in, but not a great week. While we're thinking of it,

do you wanna unapologize for apologizing for Bryson? Yeah, okay, I'll do that as well. Just tack it on, put it on my tab. Okay, anything else you guys wanting, you wanna get me on? It's all you need. It's all you need. I appreciate it.

Who did you pick that couldn't win? Oh my God, how did we wait till this? This deep in the pod. Solid, welcome to the Tyler Hitchin. I'm Jay T for the record. I picked Mark Howe who missed the cut, so I will be the winner this week of the picking guys who are not gonna win.

Solid, who'd you pick? Randy goaded me. Not at all. I listened back to it. It was a complete own goal. It was a complaining made of face. Simpson was a little light. I stand by that.

He, and that's fine. Then you didn't have to offer up another one. No, but I see Randy's approval and everything I do. And his disapproval of my pick maybe throughout, get cocky and I'll throw all Bryson won't win. Solly's picked to win, picked to not win. Bryson, to Shambu, to do, to do. Welcome to the Brotherhood.

I'm in the club now in this trip, I ask you. I've picked one major winner, correct. And in my lifetime basically, and one that I thought would not win. And then read 77, 74 on the weekend. I forgot about read. That's tough. I think we need to mention that.

That sucks. That was weirdly, maybe I was just in a bad headspace this week but I was kinda rooting for read as well. Read Anne Bryson. I was like, yeah, just give me those guys, man. Who cares? Co-CRACK bounce back today, 72 on the weekend. He got in a heavy cash game there.

He got knocked out of the tournament and cleaned up a bit. One day cash game. And then, uh... We need to shout out the shlong. The shlong. Oh my gosh. The shlong.

What a week. I think I'd be willing to say he shlonged wing foot. All in all. 71, 75, 69, 73. I think on aggregate, he absolutely shlonged wing foot. T13 made over Shlown week. T13 made over 200 grand this week. Is there just a successful week

hanging out with the commission? Oh my gosh. Who's your biggest disappointment of the week? And then we can get to some questions. God, what happened to Hovlin come out? I know, that's what I was gonna tell scene. That cost the FredEx kept him a lot of money. Still DJ, I know he finished T6,

but he gave the gritty round of golf that he was very confident he would be able to contribute this week. Just 73 round one, that cost him, man. I mean, he finished 11 shots back up Bryson. I don't think he was, I don't think anybody was beaten Bryson, but it's still DJ for me. Rob's got to be up there, though, too. Rob was, it was kind of tied between Rob and Roy. I think in the Roy one's far more emotional pick, just because I really, really, really want to see Rory win.

One of these things. Are you expecting Rory to win though? I wasn't expecting to win, but I was expecting him to, I was expecting him to make Rory a little bit today and kind of like get there where he's, he's five holes ahead of the leaders and maybe makes a birdie. I thought he'd make that eagle on the line. He gets it to minus one.

Yeah, and we didn't even get that. So that was disappointing. I was disappointing the Australians. Jason Day at him, Scott. I thought one of those two would kind of step up. Great drivers, the golf ball. It just, I don't know, I just didn't materialize. Both of them were just kind of shot between 71 and 76 all week.

I want to give a quick flashback to just, you know, two years ago at this time that Jordan's beef was, you know, two years ago at this time, that Jordan's beef was, you know, still struggling at that point. It goes to France and goes three and two in the Radar Cup. Bryson goes over and goes O and three. How far, like how far away right now is Jordan's beef from what Bryson is doing? It's like, how stark is that contrast right now?

Not good, man. No, it's not good. And they both live in the Metroplex. No, it's not good. And they both live in the Metroplex. Well, and I think, join can learn something. Bryson made some radical changes. And I don't know what that looks like for spieth exactly, but he's got to try something different.

Yeah. Do you have a biggest disappointment? Once the tournament got started, it's kind of the usual suspects, Rory, JT. Danny Lee was the biggest disappointment. Danny Lee for withdrawing. Do you think he heard his wrist? First of all, Iory, JT. Danny Lee was his biggest discipline. Danny Lee for withdrawing. Do you think he heard his wrist? First of all, I think they pressured him to withdraw.

No, no, no. Do you think he heard his wrist? I don't think so. Did you see him smash? Where did he hear his wrist? I guess he smashed his putter on the golf bag. Yeah. That might have literally been where he heard his wrist.

He had a big temper tantrum to locker room too. Really? Big temper tantrum. First of all, here he goes. Either he heard himself or it was like a m- He had a big temper tantrum in the locker room too. Really? Big temper tantrum. First time hearing this. Either he heard himself or it was like a m... Cause he was dinkin' around with his pies. He was like, I've just got leaned on him a little bit. He's known for doing this shit.

He reminds me, there was this kid I grew up playing in, Joshua Chong. If he had a bad round. He was gonna juke this thing. No, yeah, yeah. Uh, like we were like 12, 13. Chong, he was good too. He was, and he was a nice kid, but like he would 13. He was good too. He was a nice kid, but like he would just blow up after the round.

He would, one time on the, after the 18th hole, the first round of the tournament, he broke. Every club in his bag over his knee, behind the 18th green. The next day he had a brand new set of clubs, different clubs too. He was like, yeah, you know, like I broke these, so I got the MP32s man.

That's kind of sick. He must like, yeah, you know, like, I broke these, so I got the MP32s man. That's kind of sick. He must have been a merit school kid. No, no, I think he was like, I think he was a huge fan. That is a sick accusation from someone that broke a club recently and also has new clubs. Like, every month. Dany Lee, I broke one club.

That's true, that's true. I don't know, Dany Lee, I feel like there's something, I've heard, I heard some things that not everything's right and great with him, which I, I, I, I wouldn't fund a watch. I didn't get a lot of joy out of that six-putten. I got a, I got a little, I mean, a little, I don't know. It just felt a little, felt a little little. You want to see, I think, if I can reach across the aisle, I think you want to see some, some people lose their mind a little bit on. Well, that's why it was BS, the biggest disappointment was, let me see golf show, I'm not showing

it. And then miraculously finding it in the archives after we caught them out last night. That kind of thing's going to happen more and more and more with the state run, state run golf channel. Watch the choke point, people. Should we get to question? Sure. Connor Harrington, this is again a question we're going to have a lot I think in the coming

months. Does Bryson win if there's no fans this week? I feel like, I'm sorry, if there's fans this week, I feel like the New York fans would have gotten in his head so much. It's a very fair question. I think we should preface all this by like who could say, you know, sure. That's very important. I certainly think it would have been a factor.

I don't. 100%. Yeah, I mean, and only to the negative side. So I don't say this with any sour grapes that Bryson won or the Morakow one or anything like that, but I truly think if you had fans at both of those events, the results of both of them would have been different. I'm not saying, like, it would have been...

I think Bryson's still in the middle of this week. I'm saying that's a variable in that the week plays out differently. It affects people positive and negative as the week goes on. I'm not even saying, like, Bryson, you might have won by 12 with fans for all in the same, but I think it is a variable that would 100% have changed how things played out. I am curious what about Bryson makes you think that people making fun of him to his face would not be a motivator.

I feel like that's his whole thing over the last six months. I think for Reed, yes, but I don't know about Bryson. I don't know, man. I think that's his whole thing. He doesn't handle adversity very well. I think all he wants to do is just prove people wrong. I think you're right. I think you're right in the long run. I think all he wants to do is just prove people wrong. I think you're right. I think you're right in the long run.

I think in the moment, maybe not so much. He might have not been quite as calm. All the things I said at the top of the podcast about how he just never lost his shit. He may have lost. That stuff takes energy. Even if he seems to have limitless energy for it, but that stuff does take energy to compartmentalize and all that.

Also, I think Wolf would have been such a massive, overwhelming fan favorite in that group today. Like that that might have, that might have been a little weird. Yeah. What do you, I mean, what do you have? Like I think New York fans, that's like, like, I think he's just like a young. Did he have any taste?

I think he's just like a young, fun, like, oh, who's this guy, he's new, like, I love it. He would have like played to him a little bit. Yeah, I don't think I agree. The New York fans are gonna be like, well, check out this guy, man, he's so smart. Like, that's cool. Like, he's the scientist.

What do you think you're better than me? Yeah, I don't think, and I just don't think that that's gonna be the vibe they're gonna be. You look like it, George. I think they would have stuffed him in the locker. You look like John Gotti, my man. Yeah. I think they would have stuffed them in the locker. You look like John Gotti, my mother. Flipping back around on Bryson Slicks asks,

does Bryson carry the same success into the next two majors, both being at Augusta? It's a fun little nugget. The same success as in, do I think it win both by six? No, Juan, before we get one green jacket out the next two. Before we talk about the next two majors being in Augusta,

we need to, we need to announce something. Well, we were considering, like, I don't know if, you know, is that really gonna be a US Open next year at Tory Ponds? The, first of all, the major venue suck next year. They're not good. And so we're saying that we're gonna say the players is a major next year in March. You're elevating it.

We're elevating it to a major. With a carryover. With a carryover. So it's really like one and a half to two majors. Exactly. And then, you know, US Open, I think we're going to, it's not in the road next year. Preemptively not our open. And we're pushing this legislation through now and hopefully it'll all get resolved shortly,

but that bill has been introduced. So we can say for certain the next major will be at a gust, so we cannot say for certain whether the next two will be at a gust. Exactly. Correct. I don't think there's any reason to believe that price and won't play well, right?

If he's healthy and comfortable and well, I think that's like that. Like 15 guys, of course, he's gonna win for 15 guys show up with a chance to win the best. That's what I was gonna say. He's like, definitely one of them. You've got to, yeah, you've got to be very upfront about the fact that the fields weigh smaller. Both. There's no, there's no green reading books. That's interesting. Is it, I think it is. I think he's, I think it totally is. Yeah, I think he's mega, I don't know if I'm lying on that.

That's what they, Even him just for like confirmation bias. And that's what I think they, I think the numbers like, this is another pet peeve of mine that like, all the shit he's rattling off before he hits and all the nouns are like, God, who the hell knows what any of that means?

It's like, well, you guys should, like it doesn't seem like that complicated. He's asking for the front and he's asking like, what percent swing I should hit. It actually has never made more sense to me than one time they had dubbed, I put the audio down there and they planned to land it three yard short. I was like, oh, he's hitting like a 75% wedge.

Like, oh, that made a lot of sense, Roger. Five y'all can make sense of that. Shucks. He's, Roger, I need to go. But I think he does the same thing on the greens. When you do here's audio, he's always talking about like percent slope and all of those different things. Like I think he's deep in the green.

But it's so deep part of his process that even if he's not, you know, if he internalizes the information beforehand, it's still gonna change his process. It's gonna change something. It's a variable. I would just say that for a golf course, you don't see every year. I think the Green's reading books pay off exponentially harder than a place that you

might know decently well. I don't know. I'd spare two. I think it's a certain point you just begin to start remembering those greens at a gust I would think. I don't know. Interesting quote from Bryce. Are they allowed in practice rounds or anything?

I don't think they're allowed tournament week. Sort of. I don't know. I don't know. Interesting quote from Bryce. Are they allowed in practice rounds or anything or what? I don't think they're allowed to turn them in a week. So I don't know. I don't know if they exist. I don't know the week. Interesting quote from Bryce and after the round, they made the fairways too small this week for the guys that were really hitting the fairway. If it's too narrow, length is going to win. Too wide, length is going to win.

So they just aired on the side of making them too narrow. Yeah. And he said too wide or too narrow, like this is gonna win. But if you find the right mix, like how do you find that? I don't think the Ebusier, you know, the Dealer. I'm like trying to think of it. I'm trying to like,

but some of that seems like it also comes down to the dog legs, right? Because if you're not worried about running through a dog like you're just gonna really unleash on it. It all comes back to firm greens, but I think short and wide is better off for a interesting diverse leaderboard. If we can truly read ourselves of whatever the part would be, that is our best opportunity for a varying styles of play to be able to compete. Yeah. Otherwise, everybody you better get in the lab and bulk up. In that instance, like the long players are still probably going to win probably. Yeah. But at least the other guys have a fighting chance. Brennan-Tai was not going to last four

rounds on this golf course. I think he's going to win. To answer your question, I think he's going to win one of the two masters. More than two. One of the two masters. Yeah. I think so. I think that's fair. Yeah, is it is a rowy time? We'll get there. Quick shot. Well, it's probably gonna be a rowy time at Keele. Yeah, probably in May. Bishop Pickering is Jim Furek,

winning back-to-back weeks on the Champions Tour, more impressive than Bryson's win. I think we could all agree that's true. Shout out to Jim on that one, especially because he beat him at the time of the quarter. We tied. We tied. We tied. He made a 20 foot in the last all the time.

It was the greatest round I've probably ever played. So technically you would. I was going to say that. So all he's won on the the Champions Tour and you top 10 at the A&A. Right. Last weekend off of Gabby's. That's right. That's right.

That's right. Well, you also, you got, there was a week in in January, Randy's like my favorite fact ever, where you and I played the same tease at Jack's Beach, and you beat me straight up. And later that week, I played with Jim Furek and same tease and I beat him. So you beaten Jim Furek. Congratulations to 2003, you have a champion. How about that? Any given Sunday, man. Let's see.

George Hall just wanted to play off out in Portland. Can't be a Portland classic. How about that? Good for her. Maximus 9.966. Are we ready to call this performance Tiger at Pebble in 2000 light? Characteristics are similar. Physical, physically dominant over other players seem to play a different course from everyone else. Only player under par wins by numerous shots. Characteristics are similar, physically dominant over other players, seem to play a different course

from everyone else, only player under par wins by numerous shots. Sure. It's a solid case. Yeah, that's a, that's a, that's a, very light. Very light. Yeah, I think that's fair. I also think there's a take out there

and I'd have to flesh this out further that Cat, like 2000, he was also like one of the first in the new ball. And, well, I was gonna, and was gonna and first to learn I didn't really Yeah, I wasn't planning to unpack that off top of my head But I feel like there's a lot of parallels with technology as well. Many big divots would be like to think our sponsors So we've done that. Yeah, that's a good name too. Is it hamstring time? We're far in I don't know how I have a ton of stuff, but Sure, I mean I will please please out, we need to set a strict time limit.

What do you think it should be? One total minute. I think for majors, if we have not let it bleed into other parts of the show, I don't even need time. These guys are just rare and again. No, I don't really have that much. I thought it was 30 seconds each. Sure, very much like a PGA tour week.

Didn't feel like they really ramped up. I think they're, you know, their hands are tied with it not being having fans and just not having that natural energy to build off of. The commentary just doesn't really get me there. It doesn't, I don't really learn a whole lot. Maybe it's the same voices that you hear in a PGA tour week, but it just, a lot of telling me what's on the screen versus, I don't know, in the playing through with five holes to play with the leaders. Well, there's two guys on the, like, like, inner and it's two guys to track on the whole. And that was the last hole that it was actually even somewhat close. That was a tough one for me. I'm giky.

I don't have much time to take up here. I think that advertising the augmented reality app, instead of just watching the players on the golf course, I think speaks pretty loudly as to the priorities of what's going on. I think he texted us. I would literally just rather than say Deloitte a hundred times in 30 seconds. Yeah, that seems like the whole point of the app is just like we need to get Deloitte some run here.

It's like when you're watching the, not watching the US Open, you can fire up the AR app. It's like, but I am watching the US Open, man, just show it to you. You try to download the app. I didn't try. I downloaded it, itO, if a man just shows it to you. You try to download the app, and you're like, I didn't try. I downloaded it, it worked fine. I just don't, it's such an answer to a question

like nobody has. Like, I don't know why anybody would ever want that, but that's what that's all I got. I, you know, rescinded the rest of my time. I thought Fox, Fox was missing in that, you know, say what you want about their production or about the talent, about the commentary and and all that they brought a fresh set of eyes The different camera angles different tower heights, you know more handhelds

Obviously was a lost leader. They weren't making money on it But with NBC it just felt like hey, here's here's the you know, here's the US open. It's no different than the other 20 tournaments that we they're a little on their on their laurels a little bit You know, it's just kind of like, yeah, we're here, we're gonna do it. And you can tell that they're making cuts in the, like, in the, they'll blame it on COVID and I guarantee you,

it's, there's some serious budget stuff going on too. Cause I think they're making cuts across the board on the number of cameras they have out there, some of the technology that's out there, et cetera. Even their graphics showing the slopes of the greens, didn't really show the slopes of the greens. We should point out they just, I think, found out they were getting this.

Yeah, a couple months ago. So that's gotta be a factor. It's definitely a factor. I don't know. I appreciated having someone come in with just full-on energy for a major, and that's what it felt like the fox every time. And that, I don't know.

I do wanna say, I think the peacock stuff was overblown. I agree. I actually got a mistake to think the peacock stuff was overblown. I agree. I got a mistake to go to it on Friday afternoon. Thursday afternoon. Thursday afternoon, like that was an icky move on their part to just, you know, juice some peacock sign up stuff, you know. They didn't get ran. As I told Randy, you can't stop the cock man.

Randy was peacock block there for a while. I just, the only thing I want to say is I miss my absolute hitter, Ken Brown. Miss the brown points. And how, oh gosh, how good of I want to say is I miss my absolute hitter, Ken Brown. Miss the brown points. And how, oh gosh, how good of a week with this. I know. Rollin' the beach balls out there. I know. Gosh, it would have been good.

I want to see bones just move straight into the booth. Yeah. I don't know if he needs to be out describing shots that much because he can think it through probably a lot more and talk about pressure and all these things. I know he's not the one hitting the shots when he's out there, but he's seen through so much that I think a little more time in the booth for him would be better for him to instead of just describing golf shots. No, totally. Especially if it's taking place of fowl to. Well, and that's where I know what Rania and I know we're overextending our time here, but I think this is a constructive point that

I would bet that the PJ Tour and the USGAs and the Augusta Nationals and those people of the world that are the right tolders talking to these networks about how to do their coverage would disagree with this take. But the booth doesn't need to be so fucking like reverential all the time. It doesn't need to be like a church where all these guys are just constantly just like, praise, just speaking in such platitudes and such grandiose conversations. Like, how much better would it be to your point exactly, Sally, if it was bones,

especially on Thursday, Friday. If you wanna stay with the really syrupy stuff for Saturday, Sunday, like, go ahead. Thursday, Friday, the only people watching, like week to week PJ Tour stuff are the complete Siko hardcore golf fans. Just make it much more like a podcast, right? And obviously we're very biased towards that medium, but just get bones in there like telling

stories and it doesn't have to constantly be describing what you're seeing already on the golf course. Just like stretch it out, let bones, like give bones some air to tell stories and to really like have those guys play off each other a little bit. I feel like you would learn so much more because once they start telling stories, there's a point they're telling the story. There's a point of why they're telling the story.

Even Zinner telling stories. Yes, there's Justin Leonard's actually low-key really good. Some of the early coverage he was on, they just, instead of just, we don't need to hear you talk about what's on the screen. We can see that. I would like to see more of that.

Yeah, Kurt Byram's gonna to good at that as well. I enjoy that. But yeah, it just becomes a, they cut to Gary Koch and David Faraday in the tower and they just literally tell you what's on the screen. Maybe a comment in there and it just doesn't. I think I said this to Porter. It is very obvious if you sit and watch, like sitting through a major golf coverage is not for watching TV, watching golf on TV

is not for people that watch golf on TV. Like it's just, you hear the same billiacast per thing, if you watch all of it, but they're trying to do this for the person that doesn't even actually watch it. But drive five, you are. Yeah, it's just, it's hard. Well, I thought Faldon had a a really really interesting point about Hadecki

This week if Hadecki were to one today It would have been worth a billion dollars according to Fowl to be with a B a billion dollars Trace trace cova 15 million dollars per year of the next 10 years 20 years 20 years which is still only 300 yeah and glowing brain shit. What are you doing, nerds doing math? And then even like, Fowldo usually asked like budget in some divorce elements within that, that is 20 years as well, right?

Yeah, that, I have good. I thought Fowldo beat you up before. He's got the biggest fucking thing. Yeah, I know, you kick the shit out of him. You better not get in grappling match. What did he make a good, actually a good comment on course set up talking about like at Pebble. That's what we need from Fowdo.

It's like, dude, you competed in all these majors. Like tell us about it. It's like, yeah, if the Greens were firm at Pebble and on 12 we just hit in the bunker, that was the only chance you can make par. I was like, fuck yeah, give me more of that man. That's what I'm getting at. Yeah, even if it's Fowldale, let's start small.

Just like, do you just tell some stories? And hopefully they're not all, you know, the most like self-academic stories, but like, yeah, just teach us stuff man. We're here to learn. Well, that's, I think that's why we get so frustrated with Fowldale. It's like, yo, yeah, you've won six majors, dude.

Like, to take us there, like, I want to learn something from you and we never do. How many majors do you think Bryson's going to win? Well, I was a question going forward. 29. Bryson, more majors, Bryson. He got him, he's living to 130. More majors, Bryson and Brooks going forward. I mean, I'll say, whoever you put up against Brooks,

I'll say that person, like, can't lay or Brooks. I think I'm gonna say can't lay. Bryson or Brooks, I'm saying Bryson. Like, just cause of injuries. Yeah. Bryson or Roy? I don't think Brooks, like, I don't think Brooks is gonna have the longevity either.

Bryson or Roy? So I don't maybe answer that question, man. Bryson, a humble pee. It's definitely Bryson. don't maybe answer that question. Bryce and a Hundo P. It's definitely Bryce. I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, Rory. I've, oh God, I hope it's Rory, but it does it. I think Rory's got a couple more benches in him, man. But it's been like six years.

I know. Of his prime. How old is Rory? His capital P prime. How was Rory? Like 33? Okay. 32, something like that.

Is that right? I lost my Okay. 32, something like that. Is that right? I trust my case. Roy's like 30, isn't he? Is he that young? Yeah, I think so. He was 21 when he won. 31, 2011, yeah.

Okay. He's a father now. I heard that. People forget. Has Bryson sold a single link set of irons yet? Oh, four, sure. 100%. I like, I'm not gonna say I thought about it,

but it's an interesting concept. There's a lot more people with a lot more money and a lot more free time than me who I'm guaranteed. So you've got like, design your swing around that. That's where I'm wondering if people are actually doing that. But, oh, for sure. What do you, I can't put a number on how many, but I promise he sold a lot of them, a depressing amount of them.

Has he sold any of those dumb hats? The hats are so dumb. Oh, we didn't even talk about dumb hats. It's kind of meta too, because he's got, his logo is literally his hat, and his like thick ass neck, find it on the hat itself. All I picture is poor at any given time he can.

He tweets the the screenshot of him, grabbing the railing at the president's cup, leading back into screaming as loud as he can. I thought you were going to say the Russian, the war tracksuit. Yeah, the war at tweets law. Great. Yeah, those are the top two for sure. Yeah, Bryson is completely distracted from the fact that he wears that stupid hat.

I didn't think about it once to know. All right, Bryson or... Bryson or JT? Bryson, like, again, I know it's like, is it anybody over Bryson right now? I'm going JT over Bryson, really? Yeah, JT's looked a little squirrely. And it's not saying that like JT,

or that Bryson's a fat or anything like that. I just, like, you know, there's reasons that like, you know, he hasn't, like he didn't win the PGA. Like there's reasons that he, like when he doesn't win, it's for a reason too. Like the putters not always gonna cooperate with him. The only person I think I might be taking over Bryson right now, and it's gonna piss Randy off

is Ron J. Hamm. That was gonna say, ROM. I know it hadn't happened yet, but yeah. Speaking of ROM, he put it on a platter for me today guys. The Canadian hit. Oh God. Congratulations. 444 points.

Congratulations. All five of our five elements of ring here. We gotta wrap this up. Can I say one more thing? Anything else before we do wrap up? I think I'm, the Sunday recap's used to be a lot longer but now that we got these daily pods that we've been putting out. I feel like a lot of our takes are out there.

If you're Jones and for more, if you wanna hear three and a half hours on the course set up, go check out Thursday, Fridays. I do just wanna say, that wasn't a bit, like I truly believe that that's how I prefer to watch the US open And I like a very I like consistency from start to finish or if it's gonna if it's gonna amp up round around and what were the best example sure better Amp up round around what are the best examples of US opens then that have been the best setup in consistent day to day and hard enough and not over the edge been the best setup in consistent day to day and hard enough and not over the edge. Oh, well, don't take that out.

That last caveat because that's one of my big things. I love when it gets over the edge. And this is where I understand why the USGA doesn't want to do that because they, you know, obviously Shinnokok was a debacle for them. Like they're trying to put some good will in the bank here. But let's just, let's go year by year and just say yes or no with you approved. 2019 US Open Setup, Pebble Beach. Oh, no. Disapproved.

No, 20 am, 2018 Chinacock. No, because Sunday was a disgrace. Exactly, they crowned them. No, 2017 Aaron Hills. I didn't really have a huge problem with Aaron Hills, because you weren't gonna, that was the type of tournament you were gonna have at that course. They got back down a little bit

with all the rough stuff at the beginning. 2016, Oakland, the Kevin Knot. Oakmont was good. It was fun. Oakmont was okay. 2015, Chambers Bay. Hell yeah, I love Chambers Bay. 2014.

That was a fun tournament. It was awesome. What was 2014 again? Uh, was that Marion? No, 13 was Marion. It was awesome. What was 2014 again? Uh, was that Marion? No, 13 was Marion. It was 14. Oh, Pinehurst. Pinehurst.

Pinehurst was excellent. I think they can amp up the greens of Pinehurst. Didn't Kymur just like put everybody away? Yeah, put it somewhere. Yeah, so that, I think it was a very similar, I think, a similar leaderboard to this, right? Well, I think something with Pinehurst though is, and that's gonna change in the future here,

is though that native hadn't truly change in the future here is, though, that native hadn't truly grown in yet. It was still kind of spotty, and it wasn't necessarily the half-shot penalty, or the quarter-shot penalty, or like, one out of every three or whatever, four times you're gonna be totally boned. Most of the time when those guys walked up to their ball,

that stuff hadn't really truly grown in yet. Marion, yes. Like they had to trick it up, but it in yet. Marian? Yes. Okay. Like they had to trick it up, but it was cool. 2012 Olympic. Olympic just totally washes over me. 2011 congressional hell no. 2010, Pabble.

That was GMAC. Yeah. That was better than 2019. Yeah, that was better than, yeah. I think you're gonna look back at this more fondly than you, than you maybe. I think we've put too much thought into it. Oh, I think this, the sum of it, like, yes,

did it end up in a good place? Right. Absolutely, yes. But like, there was just some, just wanted a little bit more. Exactly. I felt a little bit deprived. To give you equal time, I thought they did an excellent job.

I just thought it was, I think, I get where you're coming from and I would have loved to see more carnage and all of those things, I fully and with you. All I'm saying, but I thought they did a great job. This wasn't like a skip and Shannon thing. Like, we weren't saying this stuff because like, that's a hard word. We need like a counterpoint.

It was like, no, like I legitimately like, like that's, like there's only so many times each decade that you get to have a tournament in one of the hardest courses on the planet when the temperatures aren't crazy and they can actually do whatever the fuck they want with the golf course. And I would say prepare yourself

to be very disappointed going forward. I think this is a very successful and there lies, I don't disagree with it. But I know you guys are think, weigh in on this brand and it's got to be toughest test and the commercial about the blood and everything. Like they're actually also actively saying, like this is probably gonna be easier.

Like we're gonna, we've listened to the players some, and I know that's kinda your point of, like they shouldn't have listened to him this much, but. Like they all think it's fair. All right, cool, then. We're not, then it's obviously not hard enough. Yeah. I think that they, I don't wanna go to bat

for the players on this, but I think these guys honestly and truly, especially the best players, do know and appreciate a good, hard, fair, tough setup. And they have issues when the pins get in the really silly spots and to be honest, a couple spots today were like, ooh, that could have got, with a little more wind, that could have got a little bit dicey. That's why I placed like Pinehurst is really interesting

to me because like, the players don't look as silly when the ball is rolling 10 feet off the green into rough. They look silly as hell when it rolls 50 yards off a green and then they have an impossible shot coming back up. Like, so I think, which is the best. LACC, say the next 23, Pinehurst, 24, those are the ones I'm looking forward to the most

because it's, we might not be recognizing you as hoping until, until we get to LACC. Brooklyn will be fine. It's just gonna be a little bit different. They have smaller greens. Brooklyn will be a little bit like winged foot as far as the corridors and all that stuff.

There's more hills and stuff, but the greens are just tiny. You got tinyios, greens. Dolphin' growth, dolphin. We gotta talk about THG too. Oh my gosh, so I had made a bet a few years ago with the infamous THG, one of our buddies, and there was no downside for me,

but he said, if Bryson ever wins a major, he is gonna buy me diamond seat tickets at the Reds game. Which that's like the whole shellfish bar. That is all you can eat, all you can drink right behind home plate. So that cash today, it was exceptionally, exceptionally fun for me. We just gotta get this COVID stuff behind us,

but look for me behind home plate, sometime next year with THG. Are you gonna dress up like Marlins, man? No, I'm gonna have THG dress up like Marlins, man. I might dress up like an omp and call balls and strikes. Just THG get to go as well. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, red alert.

And Tron wants to go with THG. I don't think he's gonna take Tron. Red alert, red alert. This is from Wil Gray's Twitter. Rory McElroy has commented on Bryson. I think it's brilliant, but I think he's taken advantage of where the game is at the minute with the way he approaches it, arm lock putting,

everything, I'm not saying it's right or wrong, he's just taking advantage of what we have right now. Are the A, the arm lock putting his bullshit, B, the greens reading books are bullshit, and C, he cheats on like half of his shots every day because he takes so fucking long. The lining up of your play, the caddy lining up the player, he was doing that today too, was like wolf belongs on the LPGA with that shit.

Bryson is the walking. Bryson is the walking embodiment of you don't like it, close the loop. Yes, yeah. Which is that comment from Roy is very interesting. Do guys start now lobbying for real changes? That's the thing. We're both creating a coalition of the willing now. I want to give a huge 40 nations ready to draw. I want to give a huge shout out, friend of the program,

Auntie Faldo, a Twitter who called Bryson, the canary of the Cold Stone. Like, this is it, man. He's the one. If you haven't been paying attention, like, this is it. It's here. That's interesting. The skies are orange I am smiling from that room. He's gonna get weird. It's gonna get weird. This was our only this was our only hope guys The battle lines are gonna draw who's gonna be on Rory's side like who's gonna be on Bryson's side?

Who's gonna be like I mean listen to that? Bryson. Yeah, who's gonna be super pro Bryson? But there are some guys that there are some guys when you get down to it that are gonna Probably take advantage of some of the stuff the same way bricent does and they will absolutely be on his side That's what I'm saying who were those guys? I feel like we've got to get in the stats a little bit. You're gonna have Brooks on on Rory side Well, yeah, Brooks on whatever the opposite I don't know that he's necessarily pro-rory.

Oh, by the way, I didn't tell you guys a story from a link foot. From a source, from a source of a link foot. First of all, all the superintendents stuff from Thursday, total bullshit. Like that didn't happen at all. And not him saying he's going to resign if that's all true, but like the whole like, there was a report that he was muting a foot, that he was furious with the USGA setup. And that yeah, they were just add-ons. It sounds like that was much, much over the way.

Yeah, and some member, you know, some member myths there. But one story that you take this how you will, if Reed was joking, or if he was trying to send a little message to, I guess he was out practicing. This was, other Tuesday or Wednesday night, and their water in the green, and he walks out practicing. This was other Tuesday or Wednesday night, and they're watering the green, and he walks up behind the green's keepers and cramps the hose.

The guy was like, just like no more waters coming out, and he's like, the hell's going on, and then he looks back and read as, read has the hose in his hands, and he's like, hey man, what's up? And he's like, quit watering, man. Hey, I'm trying to practice and be like, quit watering. That's enough.

Yeah, it's firm. Yeah. There you go. All right. I think that's a wrap on the US open. I'm going to fade a little bit. I think I'm a little exhausted and pro golf a little bit. We might be fading a little bit here this fall

and we'll be ramping up it. This master's is going to be off the charts. I know it's football season, but it's going to be enormous. It was going to actually be lead up and run up to it. I'm interested to see what some of the top guys are going to do as far as what they're going to play, leading up to it, all that. It's going to be fantastic.

Tiger Woods is defending the champion, by the way, which is wild. That's wild. So Tiger's going to play Sherwood probably, and then... I would assume probably that. Well, in the big match this week, too. That's what we're no longer up to sending to on the ground reporters to the Payne's Valley Cup.

Myself a big radio will be out there. Hopefully, you know, you can find some community with the McRib slash the McSplinner slash whatever else you've called them. Rory McElroy. We'll see how he he takes to you. But Rory ballgame. Yeah.

So maybe a little bit of content coming out of there. Mr. 400. Look forward to hearing about that. So thanks for tuning in. Fun week. Thanks to you boys, for a terrific week of banter, if you will. It's all thanks to you, man. And, uh, you know what you're welcome.

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