No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 37, Part 1: Tron Carter

Episode Date: May 1, 2016

No Laying Up co-founder Tron Carter joins to catch up on Bryson DeChambeau, his Masters experience, and all of the other happenings in the world of golf. We talked for a long time, so I’m... The post NLU Podcast, Episode 37, Part 1: Tron Carter appeared first on No Laying Up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah. That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! Hey guys, what up it's Salah. Thank you for tuning in to another episode of the No-Lang-Up podcast. We will get to the podcast shortly that I recorded last night with No-Lang-Up co-founder, Tron Carter. It had been a couple years since he and I had done a podcast.

So it ran a little longer than I expected, so I'm gonna split this into two parts. But first, I wanna say thank you to everyone that downloads, listens, subscribes to the podcast, as well as those that have sent in an awesome array of questions these last few weeks. That's very much appreciated and it makes a lot easier for us to keep an ear to the street as to the kind of topics you guys wanna hear us discuss.

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And I know for some of our regular listeners that would be really appreciated from our end. And the second thing is, Neil and Tron have worked very hard in getting our approach up to date with the most fresh items we have seen in our approach shop yet. There's new white hats, there's blue hats. The black performance teas are back in stock. The no-lang up t-shirts, the grey ones are back in stock. So please swing by the approach shop, check it out, I promise you guys will like what's in there. As well as if you have any other suggestions as to items you'd like to see us add, we are more than

happy to do that. So without further ado, here's part one of my podcast with Tron. Thanks again for I love you Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No-Wayna podcast. I'm Chris Solomon and for the first time in probably almost two years, I'm doing a podcast with a fellow No laying up founder. Since moving across the Atlantic Ocean, it is very difficult to line up schedules with people that are six, seven hours behind in time zone. But fear not, we have Mr. Tron Carter on the line calling in from Boston.

What is Boston Marathon week been like for you, Tron? Hi, it's been good. It's been our first one since we moved up here. So I kind of had always heard about the hype. And I knew it was a busy week. But man, it's places just been nuts. But all these runners are just a lot of sick individuals that run and 20s like I couldn't, you know, I'm not a runner. I can probably buy a 100 miles, but I can't run more than like five or make me will explode.

But yeah, all these people, it's been tough to get a reservation restaurant and tough kind of we live like two blocks from the finish line so it's been tough to you know go out and get a lunch or anything it's just I'm ready for everybody to get out of here. What that's what what they what year was they were applying they were thinking about applying for the Olympics in Boston like 20 24 or something like that. Yeah like 20, 24 or something like that. Yeah, like 20, 22 or 24, it would be, it would be an absolute debacle. I think it's as busy enough as it is. I think Bill Simmons was like, nobody wants this.

No one in Boston wants this. It's a complete logistical nightmare. Yeah, and really, I mean, we've only been here since November, but for the month part, we're just starting now to see the tourists come in. We live right in the city and I don't know if it's like holy shit. It's like this cicada is when a cicada is coming up every 10 or 12 years. It's like this cicada is coming a certain time of the year. And it's just like got Japanese tourists walking down the street,

taking pictures, you know, trying to take pictures of me and my dogs. It's weird. Posting for selfies with you. But you were just down in Augusta for the Master's. A couple, what is it now? Last week, two weeks ago? Yeah, I've been recovering since. Yeah, it's been, I guess, almost two weeks, really two weeks, yesterday, since we went to the NEO now and went to the Monday practice round. And what words, I know you shared a couple thoughts on some guys you saw there, but you've

been to the Masters a bunch of times, but was there anything really different about this time going for you? No, I'm going to do the keep, we keep looking out as far as the weather goes. Guys from Torjong, theseies were nice enough to have us down Weather was like was a little bit on the chilly thought it was maybe 60 sunny. I Didn't put any sunscreen on like a moron or just dumb just you know just ashy as hell

But but yeah, it was you know the course I mean obviously it's like the more things change, the golf world, the more things stay the same there. But yeah, we were fortunate we got to, kept a few little bit of D-shambo, speedy short dozen Thomas, went out with Kebka, so followed him a little bit on the back nine. Kebka, big timed, oppy bon rats, so hard on the 10th P. It was me on our like, man, we may be all the way out on this guy because he just, the big unit was there and the big unit played by himself ahead of these guys and I got a shooted to you but he had just the best horse-awesome element. He was hitting like a three-wood off the 10-T and this is the Monday practice round and he just just sprays it right and he like drops a club and does it you know the right point and it was like if you practice round bro I don't even know why you need a point.

Marshall's got to find that ball he's probably playing keeping a worse ball score like Big Cat would be out there. But yeah actually the one biggest takeaway I had was I guess the last practice I went to was Tuesday but you know we went Monday and a lot of guys flying from Houston you know the play the week before went Monday and a lot of us fly in from Houston, you know, to play the week before or you know a lot of guys that didn't play the week before really you know, fly in earlier and then they're there for a few days prior to really the first ostensible practice round. But I'm going away. How many guys don't go off early or don't go off early and then hang out all day and then play late like

like really after 4 p.m Like nobody was playing the back nine. It was like guys just played nine holes where I would think I would go in Like play play nine holes early in the morning, go get, you know, rub down, go have lunch to work for my physio, you know, and then come back out at like four o'clock and play the back nine from like four to six or four to six very, especially if it was one of my first times. Especially if you were planning on one of the guys in the final pairings a week and because I imagine that that chord plays different. Yeah. Yeah. Same, same wind and stuff. So that was a little bit, I don't know, I don't know why more guys don't think that, especially

on Monday and then you just chill out to his day and Wednesday and then ready to roll. I mean, the range was packed at that time, it was just nobody out of the course. I think that was like that when we went in 2012, if I remember right, too. It was, it was, it was smoking hot during the day. Everyone was out during the day, and then by the time at six o'clock rolled around, we were like, all right, I guess we should go. There's no one really else left out here.

But, so after, you took in the practice round, and then I assume you got to see a lot of the coverage. I know I've been very, we've talked a lot about speed, a lot of things that happen, you know, I've had two podcasts last week, but I feel like you're a bit on the other side of the aisle on speed that I guess then I am. It's not it's not hard to be opposite of be on on speed that on stage, but I don't want to get your overall thoughts on everything that happened and what we saw from him last weekend. Yeah, I mean, obviously it's tough to be out on the guy.

I've been hugely supportive of him since... You have. He was it, you know, he was it like really in high school. It started to sound creepy, but yeah, you were you were But but looking at it I just you know thought I fall in quite a few times You know whether it be like the heritage or the tour championship the person and it's just I just feel like he's playing slower and slower and it's driving me nuts. I don't know whether that's just indecision from being tired and over thinking things, but I feel like he's overanalyzing things.

That's just my take on it. Yeah, I don't think I ever noticed it until this past weekend though. Well, I guess it guess probably not until Friday. I thought it I had had something to do with him being a little bit overall comfortable with his ball striking. I mean he scraped it around a little bit. Stats show that he was actually really good. He had a lot of really great shots but he also just hit a lot of shots that really cost him. He was able to bail himself out with the putter a lot but that's what I thought led to it.

He just couldn't get decisive with that much wind and that much potential punishment like on shots like 11, 12, 15, et cetera. Couldn't get comfortable. And he was backing off a ton of shots. I feel like that just kind of stockpiled on him. But for me, it's just not that pressing of an issue for a guy to be slow on like on a major championship weekend.

I'm not in the huge hurry for it to be over unless it's like... Yeah. Unless it's really affecting the outcome of the tournament. I didn't know... I didn't understand why a lot of people were getting really frustrated. I guess my problem with it was... Hey, Ember, you know, will they're not out of position? I was like, well, they got Bernhard Longer, Jason Day, and Mautzi Yamal up ahead of them. So that's not exactly the trifect of...

Yeah, it was, it was, it was, people were like making up how far behind they were though. That's what was frustrating me. It's like, they finished two holes back and then I like, I reround it. And it's like, no, they were actually waiting in the 18 fairway to approach the green on Saturday. I guess I just for me some of it comes out to consistency. If you're going to penalize the Chinese kid. Oh god. One sent a lot of from a few years ago and then you know you got to be convincing with

that. It's not just this really isn't an anti-speed thing. It's just just be consistent with everybody You know, I used to be very critical of Kevin Nah, and he's done an excellent job of addressing the issue and speeding it up, you know, but the other thing is I don't think CBS did any favors that speed. I mean they would they would cut to him As soon you know before he would even pull his club. Yeah. And then but then somehow not show or not have the audio of the conversations between an umbrella. It's a worse possible combination.

Yeah, it was like holy shit. Like, you know, just clueless production. Guys talking over it. I mean, yeah, that was their story for the weekend with speed. It was spoon fed to him. And, I mean, yeah, it was a frustrating broadcast as it, as it, as it was. It's like, I get so frustrated too when,

there's a kid like Matthew Fitzpatrick. Right. And so we're always complaining about like, or the last few years, everybody's been complaining up until speed, you can day only, because it come out like, you know, when are these young guys gonna take charge and when are they really gonna, you know, come out and do stuff? Well, it's like, you got guys,

it's like, they're always complaining about not having enough stars, but the problem there's, like, one of the reasons is not enough stars is because they don't show anybody else. It's like, Capca, it's the Phoenix Open a couple years ago or like you know Matthew Fitzpatrick at the Masters. I mean I showed him a handful of times this kid You know, it's kid got one of the best swings I've ever seen Yeah, and obviously has the stones to back up, you know, I mean why aren't they Why aren't they putting them out there front and center? You know, I don't get that that's what it's just cyclical, right? They've put the same guys on TV for so many years.

Those guys rate well, they're popular guys, but they've no eye to the future as to who's gonna be buttering their bread for future years, right? I mean, there's no excuse not to show Daniel Berger, a Daniel Berger shot comes Sunday afternoon. You have time in that broadcast to show a couple shots from the guys that are top 15, top 10. Unless you were, I mean, he was on the broadcast

a little bit on Saturday, but unless you knew that, you would not have known Daniel Berger finished top 10 at the mass or is this year, it's pathetic, and even more. This is actually when Paul Douglas is putting out photo galleries of his Instagram account because it's good off on top. She is actually when we call Douglass is putting out photo galleries of his Instagram account because his girlfriend's hot. She is.

That's it. DB Straight Bive. DB Straight Bive. And at one point, he's going to have to change that handle. I don't think he does, man. I think that's, I think that's him. I can't get a read on that guy at all. I don't really know anything about him.

He seems like not interesting, but I'm guessing there's more to him than what we've seen. But again, we never see him on TV, so I don't really know a whole lot about him. Yeah, I think he's like the main ambassador for for for a juke life. For juke life. Hashtag juke life. All right, well, there's a guy you noted on Twitter that you saw in person swing the club and I think you've formed an opinion on him already from an off the golf course perspective

that I think a lot of people agree with and he's all anybody's talking about this week and it's Bryson D. Shambos. So first I want, first of all how do you say it? Because I was reading some tweets today that's like Dish Shamba or something like that is how he says it. I think it's Bryce and Descan though. I put that on a tee for you. I did not. That was unplanned for the record. Anybody listen to this. But I did not mean to do that too. So all right, first let's exclude everything else and just I want to hear your in-person reports on his him hitting a golf ball. Well, first of all, I had a problem with him playing up the whole human amateur thing when

you know, I think he signed with Puma Cobra like six weeks ago and just, you know, just basically delayed the payment until the Monday after the master's or maybe even that night. But I was kind of the worst tip secret out there. But obviously the guy can play, that's beyond reproach. But really, I got this sense from him watching him. I was astounded how far he hits the ball. How efficient his golf swing is.

And he really did see him, you know, the shot he hit on 18. We saw him hit on 18, too. And he just murdered the ball. So I was surprised to see what he did there bleeding out. So my problem with him. I like his swing. I Don't have a problem with any of the one-length clubs or anything like that. I think all that's cool Everybody's like, oh you're so like pretty different. No, I tend to like guys that are different My problem with him is is he just He just seems like I don't know kind of a JJ Watt humble brag time you know kind of a fluffer.

Is it a humble brag when you're just like pretty much bragging all the time? No, I guess that's the big. It's not even it's not even a humble brag it's just that you know it's just being being who you are and being an arrogant douchebag I guess but I'm sorry you can cut that out, but I'm not going to that stays in but you know it's just and I Guess the the theme now is that everybody feels like he's he's just playing everybody for a fool now You know that seems to be the consensus on Twitter this week where You know everybody thinks oh, you know he's just stringing the media along. He's just having fun with it all. I'm like, no, he's been like this pretty much the whole time.

Even before he won the USA I'm sure he was just kind of out there and just talking about stuff where he was talking about like terminal velocity or something the other day in the press conference. And it was like, that's not even that's not even applicable here like a falling object then So you say the physics the physics stuff is fake It's not fake. It's just it's just so played up like I feel like he's trying to plan to a certain persona now, but At the start, you know, which I guess is what everybody else is trying to say, but at the start At the start, you know, which I guess is what everybody else is trying to say, but at the start, he had this persona to begin with.

You know what I mean? It's not like he's been trying to manufacture this personality and like that, but you know, I just, it's not making any better that like Jim Nance just pips the guy incessantly. I'm trying to take what else. It's just, it's just all a little bit too much. I've talked to a couple golf riders about it, and they're like, yeah, he's a good kid. He just needs to take it down a couple of notes.

Which is the sense that, I think everybody could probably agree with that. Because he's here to stay, he's not going anywhere. I just want to feel like the guy's genuine. Yeah. I think he is though. I mean, I think, I'm not the first person to come up with the take that, you know, it's quirkiness

for the sake of quirkiness, but it, I don't think he's overplaying it. I think he knows how different it is and he's selling himself on that and Kind of going overboard with it But I mean he's 22 years old. We're kind of spoiled with speed and how he knows the media and like we get he's a young I mean, he's a kid. I mean and I just I do think this is truly how it is But I think he knows that people are gonna eat this up and but I think he also knows people are gonna not like him because of it So the people are gonna eat this up and but I think he also knows people are gonna not like him because of it so

I just feel like some of it's over the top like yeah songs his name backwards using his left hand yeah or You know, I feel like everybody's like oh Bryson. You're so wack. He tells about how Exactly It's kind of a lot of fill in them now like fill Always to me always seems like he can't just be ahead of the curve with some kind of statistical advantage he has to let everyone know that he's ahead of the curve or you know team study show that college teams when they wear black they're they get more penalties and they're more aggressive it's like all right we get it Phil you thought it through that

we said that at the other day was it Porter or somebody tweeted it was like yeah he's like Phil Nobody said that at the other day was it Porter or somebody who tweeted it was like yeah, he's like fill but without the benefit of having An agent or representative who's telling him to shut up. Yeah, it's like 10 times the fig jam a film but it but I I don't know if you have experienced this but like when you ever have you ever bet on guys that you don't like Yeah, I've done it to I've done it to basically Head your happiness so that the result is palatable. Yeah, exactly

Yeah, same. I've won with blah blah before and it kind of it's saw to me like it kind of softens my opinion of Somebody like I and when when you win with somebody you I don't know you the way somebody, the way I look at that person going forward is very different. I bet on Kimer to win the players a few years ago at 80-1. And I was rooting for him at the US Open just because of that. I was sold based on that. I bet on DeChambo this past week at RBC. He wasn't that close to winning. He finished T-4th. I did not think he was going to win. But just that feeling of rooting for him and having his own shot tracker tab in my browser

was kind of like, okay, I'm really enjoying this way more. You think of him on more of an objective basis for sure? Yeah, well, I was really surprised how much I was enjoying that. Like just following the shot tracker, like, and seeing the few clips that I saw, and I was like, I could actually see my, I, I, I actually preached before he came out. I was like, all right, his style is very different. Let's not overreact either way if he plays well or doesn't play well. Let's give him some time.

I'm completely getting rid of that two star after seeing two stars. I'm like in on a met from a golf perspective. I'm totally so. Yeah, I mean, I don't think there's any not to like from a golf. Right. But like going back to what was his presser? It was like Monday or Tuesday at the heritage. When he was talking about like being an artist and I was just I was like, dude, just just can it. Like just like all, you know, quit, quit trying to show us how smart you are. I just didn't, I didn't get that. Yeah, no, I think he'll eventually start fading from that. I hate that, I hate the hug and hat.

That's one thing I was like, it's brutal. I could be, that's one thing that just makes it hard to look past, but he's nowhere near like a boba for me. You know, he's kind of like, he's much very similar to a Patrick Reed, and that I think it's his off-course antics and cockiness is kind of comical, and he's really good at golf, and he's a young American. I think that they're very similar in those regards. I think it's kind of fun. The whole thing is funny to me, and entertaining. The whole, I don't, like, what blew me away was when he was waiting for Danny Willett behind the 18th greener Augusta. Did you see? I didn't see that.

I was in the corner of the room in the fetal position to know I missed that. So he was like, he was waiting for Willett behind 18th Green and Will was just like, dude, what the hell are they going way back? It was bizarre. I was just like, man, like this is, you know, it was kind of like Bubba hanging around for, you know, and like trying to be a nice guy. Sometimes when like some of these other guy wins and they're like, oh, like Bubbles congratulating me like what the hell's going on? Um, but like that's just, and then the whole, the whole interaction between him and speed, and then speed through a little bit of shade at him.

Yeah. In one of his pressors too. So I feel like these other guys are picking up on that same stuff and really they resent him a little bit and not because he's got so much game, but just because he's, you know, he's just so outwardly flamboyant and arrogant with this, you know. His whole stick. Yeah, and it's not, it's not, I wouldn't even call it stick, but I've mentioned this, this is at least the second podcast I've mentioned. What Edward O'Mullenari had to say on, I just, I've found the tweet back in February played with them and honestly this is like one of the most remarkable and I'd probably over rating this tweet but it's one of the most remarkable things I've ever seen a PGA tour player tweet he said at least I was lucky to watch in person for 36 holes one of the best players I've ever seen Bryce and DeShambo hashtag what a player hashtag game changer.

And I was like, when I read that, I was like, oh my, wow, for another pro to say that about another pro, you don't really see that that often. The fact that you called them a game changer was just like, wow, there's really actually something really special and unique about this guy that's gonna be pretty interesting to watch. You gotta take it with a grain of salt though. Are they the same like management company or something?

That's one of the flying Mollon Ari brothers. They're like the international cell of LPCP on tour. LPCP? I said this to Porter too because I think we talked about this exact tweet but I still don't know which one of the two of them is better. I don't want you, I think you know it this exact tweet, but I still don't know which one of the two of them is better. I don't want you to tell me because I kind of like the mystery of not knowing which one of the Molinarys is the better Molinarys. I like the Wanda brothers. They need to take it all away. Take it back to the Euro tour.

Get out of here. I don't want to transition too quickly into questions we got, but now that we're on to Shambah, I'm going to ask you some of the questions that we got from Twitter if that's cool. But Wally Brennan wants to know five years from now, who has who has more wins, Justin Thomas Brooks-Kepka-Bricin-Dishambo. until Tom has proved to me that he can... there's all of us, not me, I'm gonna say that, like I'm the one judging him, but until he proves thatM last year, I mean the guy was literally like unbeatable. It was like holy shit, nobody's gonna touch this guy. Do you think it's gonna like cause a true like change in the way people play the game

of golf? I mean, I don't know, there's probably kids sitting in the bathtub, you know, soaking their proby ones in epsom salt after, you know, I think he said that. You know, there's just like these little, almost like novelty things that he's, you know, kind of come out and been quoted in the same. But I think there's some legitimate stuff there Like I think the whole like I've never thought about His whole concept of wedges where you take it back to four o'clock five o'clock six o'clock seven o'clock and having a list of exactly

How far you hit it? Yeah, and each of the spots like that's that's actually really useful you know really I don't know kind of enlightened stuff. So I mean, I think there's some stuff that he does that's definitely applicable to a wide variety of people, it could help people with their games, but I don't, you know, I don't know if a lot of people, I mean, you're talking to kind of a field player too, so I'm not as good, you know, identifying with some of the stuff that he's the whole proprioception thing.

I'm not as good as identifying with some of that more scientific stuff. Well, if there's anything that looks unnatural and it's when he's trying to chip with a six iron length club, like that part, and I think he even said something about it after the round, after playing with speed, that's where I need to get with my wedges. So I think if there's going to be a weakness in his game, that's probably going to be it. But I'm sure he'll figure out some scientific way to resolve that. But I think what's where I, I'd like to think that this could be like a change in the game in some way. But you have to commit to so many different things to do this that I don't

see people, you know, this being a normal thing. His setup to the ball with those clubs so upright and the one playing swing, you have to perfect that. There's not like the trial and error for that has to take a long, long time. And there's not like amateur that's going to go say, hey, put my club's 13 degrees up right right now, I'm gonna go remake my swing. So, I, I, I, people are saying like this could completely revolutionize the way we play the game.

Who knows, maybe in 100 years, every single person that has the exact same swing and it looks exactly like that. But he's the first person to really, really, you know, change the way a golf club is swung maybe then like Bubba's probably the opposite end of that spectrum but I can't think of anyone else that really swings the club that differently on tour can you yeah I mean Fury yeah that's still the one but the end of the day he's still he's still like

from from kind of in the impact zone he's still in this spot everybody else's you know what I mean is your cell. Fureck, yeah, Fureck, he's doing all this crazy shit all around it but that's masking the fact that he's going to really fundamentally sound swing in the impact zone. I think with the Shambo I mean I got to give the guy a lot of gratitude to commit to you know be a decent player and then commit to that sort of swing and that sort of off the wall stuff is, I mean that's definitely admirable. So I don't want to sit here and shit on the kid. I just think he needs to tone it down

a couple of launches. Yeah, that's fine. What do you think about his chances to be on the Ryder Cup team this fall? Shit after what I saw in the in the right in the USM, you know, I'd take him over, I'd sure as I'll take him over Coochir. You would? There's about four of five guys that probably take him over Just cuz you know he's probably gonna piss the euros off too, which is always a good thing We got a great comment here is from at no one denies this It's very fitting handle for this comment Bryson Patrick Reed is going to be the greatest Ryder Cup pairing ever. I have no question.

I'm not upset with that take act. That's phenomenal. But... Can you put speed with it? I would say Thomas, but I don't think... As we're sitting here currently, I don't think he's sitting in a great position to be on the Ryder Cup team. He, I don't know where he is on the points list. I know he's tight with DL3, but I think, I think he'd be the first to tell you his game recently has not been,

you know, it's not been up to par to what we would expect from a Ryder Cup player. I'm not saying that he's not going to turn it on, but if we're sitting here right now, I wouldn't, you know, as big of a Thomas fans, I am, I wouldn't say that he's probably near the top of the list to be a captain's pick, would you? No, no, absolutely not. Yeah, I mean, I think it's, I think Adam Sargson wrote a good piece today. It's so early in the game. Yeah, it really is. It really is. It so much can change. I mean, imagine like in 2014 at this time, talking about, you know, people wanting Horsesho to be on it. And then it was unanimous right before the event started

that everyone wanted Horsesho on the team. Like everything can absolutely change in the matter of a couple months. So, but yeah, that's, I guess you've probably kind of already answered my next question in that, that one American win in the last eight weeks or something like that, I saw that set on Twitter. I don't know, I don't remember where I read that. It's apologies. But is that a concerning sign

for the Ryder Cup team at this point? I think some of that's just a matter. There's just more international guys playing than ever before on tour. You know, a lot of these euros, I think I saw Will at either today or yesterday, know basically announced that he's gonna play US tour full-time. I mean, you know, just just the I'm sure you can attest to this living over in Europe. It seems like the Euro tour You know, they haven't played it like they put in Europe for the first time what two weeks ago. Yeah, it's yeah Now that I realized the weather sucks, you know the same time, the money's better over here. The travel's better. I feel like a lot of guys are playing a lot more over here.

You can look at a guy like Oppy Ball and Rat. He's playing over here a lot now. It just, it's a matter of you get inside that top 60. It's like that guy was a bone killing on. He was either one or almost one that went worth last year. He's been playing a lot over here. So it's like even the guys that don't have a membership. He's American though, and he's been on. I think he's. He's other American. He's like though, and he been on. I think he's he's

other American. He's like American of Korean December. He's been playing the Euro tour. Yeah, he has played the Korean tour. Yeah, I think yeah. I mean, the Euro, it's the Euro tours become so it's it's so not well-named, first of all. It's such a joke how much travel those guys have to do. And it's yeah, I I mean I get a lot of criticism when I say like somebody like Brendan Grace needs to come over and Play the PGA tour on a regular circuit if he wants to be Accurate it's totally accurate. I mean, but he obviously can back this game up. I mean same goes for Will it He's proven it beyond any means that needs to be proven But I want to see what this guy's got

on a week-to-week basis. I do not mean it in the slightest regard that either their wins the past two weeks have been flukes. That's not what I'm trying to say. It's like, I want to see what this guy's got rather than his basically intro to the world being, you know, this huge win where we don't know a whole lot about him.

So. You want to see if he's Charles Schwarzel or... Yeah. You know, somebody that win where we don't know a whole lot about him. So you want to see if he's Charles Schwarzschild or yeah, you know, somebody that's trying to give a Euro that's really Trevor Imelmond. Yeah, that's been more, you know, we're actually funny story the masters and I can't remember who we talking to because like yeah, I just ran into who stays in the agent. He was like, God, if I could just get that guy to give a shit. Just to try at all. He's like, he can just get that guy to give a shit. Just to try at all.

He's like, he could be the best player in the world and it wouldn't even be close. But he just doesn't care at all. What would you call the Jason Dave versus who stays in match in the match play? Like the guy that just doesn't care and the guy that cares probably way too much? Yeah, exactly.

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