No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 375: Masters Friday Recap

Episode Date: November 14, 2020

Rahm on the move, DJ and JT among the leaders, Rory stinks and then he doesn't and everything else from Friday at Augusta. A ton of people within shouting distance and a lot to talk about, including C...antlay, Cam Smith, Honest Abe, Spieth, Cat, Phil, and a lot more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah. That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Neal, welcome in. How are you? Happy to be back. And Randy, you know, suns down, guns out. Jimmy Chitwood.
Starting point is 00:00:49 And Randy Chitwood vibes. Shout out, Bunky Perkins for the Northeast Louisiana University basketball jersey. Randy looking like Dennis Hopper, the drunk dad from Hoosier. The real NLU right there. Pass out Elijah.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Looking really nice. Lookin really great. Solid kick us off, man. First reminder, you have to do. First reminder, you could be watching this on the live show, which you can catch live on Periscope or on Twitter after the rounds. I guess I'm addressing people that are listening
Starting point is 00:01:15 on the podcast feed. You can also catch it on the podcast feed. We are drinking a little bit of Elijah Craig. Accidentally, and this coincided very well with the copy we have here, I poured myself some barrel proof today, which I did not know. Thank you, Neil, for letting me know, because it's the strong stuff. It's a heavy hitter. I did not know that.
Starting point is 00:01:33 It was a little bit of a strong pour for that. Barrel proof is taken uncut and straight from the barrel, which preserves the natural flavors of the aging process, notes of rich vanilla, caramel, and butter scotch, along with spices of black pepper and cinnamon, and every batch of barrel proof varies by proof. Did you know that? Did you know that? I had no idea. Of course we knew that.
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Starting point is 00:02:33 That's fine. I was hoping you were gonna say that last bit in one breath. I thought you were gonna push it. But you took a little breath right towards the end. He could have. If he wanted to, if he wanted to, all I know brother is I like drinking that. I'm not gonna. Gentlemen, a bit of a, I would say maybe a hair of a sleepier
Starting point is 00:02:49 afternoon today, but I fucking fantastic leaderboard. If we're, if we're being honest, A-mancer, Dark Horse Pick, no, not the Brake, Cam Smith, part of the Burrito Gallery here in Jack's Beach, Justin Thomas and Dustin Johnson, your leaders at nine under. Uh, Randy, story of the day, man, what sticks out? Oh, my gosh, just we have bunching. We are clumping. We are, we are bunching. Uh, I was nervous that somebody was going to go hang like a 66, 66 and stretch that
Starting point is 00:03:20 leaderboard, but I'm quite excited that we have, you know, gosh, just scrolling down. I mean, 26 guys within five shots of the lead right now. That's going to make for a fantastic Saturday. I want to, I'm going to evolve this bit a little bit. So we were talking earlier, of course, Dustin Johnson, per your earlier proclamation. It really has two major championships left before he's declared dead. The way he looked earlier this morning after he got, basically when he hit the shot into 13, right? Had the great eagle look at 13.
Starting point is 00:03:50 It looked like some radical medical treatments were working and that there was no way this thing was gonna end without a Dustin Johnson romp. Is that what you were feeling? That's exactly what I was feeling. He seemed to have so much aggressive. A turn for the worst there after that. It looked like he had some hydrochlorox.
Starting point is 00:04:04 I know, I know, I know. It's called. Regeneron was bucking his head. Yes. He seemed to be so aggressive. A turn for the worst. And he had some hydrochlorox on. And we have that thing. We're a gen around was bucking his head. Yes. You know, but that's usually you usually see some flashes of good. And then, you know, this is fine though. I'm very interesting how this weekend goes. It's very, you know, DJ he has good days and he has bad days. Guys, does Remdesivir work?
Starting point is 00:04:24 Yeah, we don't know. Maybe that's the question. Maybe that's the discussion topic. I would say a lot of people, DJ didn't even, he didn't even do anything on the par-fives. No. And he's time for the lead. Do you think his heart rate got up above like 48 today?
Starting point is 00:04:37 It looked how routine did it look? No. That's how it always is. I'll tell you this, Rory, the equivalent of, he went and got some like, you know, Southeast Asia. This is definitely non-FDA approved. Truly holistic.
Starting point is 00:04:52 A holistic. Yeah, he's on whatever he's on. It's it's bucking its head right now. So that's something to keep an eye on. So from a golf perspective, what did you see out there today? Again, kind of similar to what we said last night. I mean, it doesn't really feel like, for a lot of reasons, doesn't feel like the master's in the main one being
Starting point is 00:05:12 seeing the ball just stopped at it and it's tracks. It's, you know, there's a lot of bunching. I think that is probably, you know, to Randy's point. That's probably a reason why. Yeah, it just lacks a little pop. I think this is my last fanless major that I can do. It just kind of watch it for a long time. Or else what?
Starting point is 00:05:32 Yeah. You get our eye. I like how our boy from the AP yesterday, the vassers, no one needed. It's hard to really, really get the juices flowing. I will say, similar to yesterday, both mornings that I'm watching like all the screens, I was just locked in and loaded. And then when it comes on TV,
Starting point is 00:05:51 it's actually when it kind of loses a little bit a little bit of luster to me. But a lot of guys there, Cantlay is the guy that I'm looking at with a big, big circle around that. It does not even feel like he's played his best golf and he's won back, had a 66 today. It could have been even lower.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Yeah, can't lay Sunjay, Matsu Yama, and John, Ronjay Hamm, all at eight under one back at the lead. And yeah, like, Ram's got six holes of his second round. First thing tomorrow, Ram looks awesome. Ram might be in the lead. Yeah, right. Yeah, really so. You were talking about can't lay earlier.
Starting point is 00:06:22 DJs, he wants to be meaner. Well, I just, I think it would work better. You know, you think. Yeah, we were talking about Cantler earlier. DJs, he wants him to be meaner. Well, I just, I think it would work better. You know, you think of someone like Mr. Hogan, right? Just an ice cold, like kind of mean on the golf course and off the golf course. And I was disappointed every one we've talked to about Cantler. He's like, no, it's just like a nice guy. He's just quiet.
Starting point is 00:06:38 I'm like, I wish he was a little meaner. He's got a meaner. It might be Dexter. He's Dexter, which I think is even better character. It's like, man, watch out for that guy. Like, it's the guy next door that's gonna get you. One you least expect. One you least expect.
Starting point is 00:06:51 He was just, he's a killer. I really think, I am, like, I'm scared of him. Neil, what? I'm lying against him. We watched, you know, we watched a lot of golf today. What was your big takeaway? Randy's word was bunching, mine is lingering.
Starting point is 00:07:05 I feel like we have a lot of guys lingering, which in a good way, and I think you use linger when it's like, I mean, Danny Willett went out and shot 66 today. Danny Willett, Fleetwood rose the Bradman CT pan and Louis Lusthason all at seven. And I'd say Patrick Reed, lingering. Like dudes that are scary, where they linger around.
Starting point is 00:07:23 You let them, you let them in the fight late and they're gonna, they might get you. It's more like loitering. Loitering, that's fantastic. That's been interesting, loitering going on outside the convenient store right now. I think you guys are just afraid to use the word pretenders. And I'm gonna say, how can you call Danny Wilkins?
Starting point is 00:07:36 Well, no, no, no, stop. I wanna hear what he's talking about here. You named the guy I mentioned. Yeah, a lot of those guys are not gonna be there. Come the end. Name names. Camspeth is not gonna be there. Come the end. Name names. Camspeth is not gonna be there. A-B-A-S-R.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Does A-B-L. Let's go through the leaderboard. You guys tell me if they're gonna be there or not. For a answer. Maybe. When you say B there, No, no, no, no, no, no. You can't spy what you mean.
Starting point is 00:07:54 I'm gonna say yes or no. Well, I'll brighten them off. I wanna say B there, let's, we gotta, we gotta spy. We gotta talk. We talking top five, top 10. Everybody knows, actually I made this up. The master doesn't start till the back nine on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Second nine. Second nine on Sunday. Thank you. And so that's what I would say is, who's got a shot on the second nine? Who's within a couple strokes? Yeah, yeah. Back nine on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:08:14 A dancer, yes, no. Yes. No. I'm gonna vote no. I'm gonna vote no, but I would love to see it. Yes, and DJ is trying to say he was his dark horse, but you can see how he's flip-plop in here. No, I was in the dark horse. Did you pick him or did you not pick him? I did, go back and listen to the he was his dark horse, but you can see how he's flip-flop in here. No, well, was he your dark horse?
Starting point is 00:08:26 Did you pick him or did you not pick him? I did, go back and listen to the podcast. You know, you're not picking him. Is what you just said. But I said, you'd be a dark horse. Like, he could play well. And I don't think he's gonna know. No, you're not picking him.
Starting point is 00:08:36 It's a mission. I accomplished, baby, for DJ. I'm not getting in the mud with you. I'm actually with DJ on that one. Thank you. You're good there. Thank you. Cam Smith. No, no.
Starting point is 00:08:44 No, I'm gonna say no. This feels like recent form that's being found. JT, I'm gonna say a big yes. For sure. No. You're gonna say no. Hell yeah, good. Uh, can't lay. Of course. Seems like a resounding yes. Yes. No. Son Jay. I'm gonna say no.
Starting point is 00:08:52 I'm gonna say no. I'm gonna say no. I'm gonna say no. I'm gonna say no. I'm gonna say no. I'm gonna say no. Hell yeah, good. Uh, can't lay.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Of course. Seems like a resounding yes. No. Son Jay. I'm gonna seems like a resounding yes, no. SungJ, I'm gonna say no. I'm gonna say no as well. Again, kind of like camp Smith feels like this is a bit of some reason for that. I don't think SungJ is not a pretender.
Starting point is 00:09:16 I don't know. I don't know, but that's kind of like the anonymous vote by your peers. Everybody says the guy is consistently flushing it. Similar to Harris English. Yeah, that's true. I, you know, I think Sungjae might, I'm gonna say yes on Sungjae. Motsuyama. What do we think about that? No. I think I'm gonna say yes. And the definition is within two of the lead. No, no, no, no, within a few of the lead. I would say
Starting point is 00:09:38 it's all, you're blowing on the fact that not on Sunday. I think if you're what within four, yeah, making the turn, you have a change. I think no, with a decky. Rom, I think is gonna be, like I'm with you, solid, I think he's your leader after round two, probably. And I think he'll definitely still be there. Will it? No, feels dicey. The broken driver.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Really? He pulled a Neil Schuster today, broke his driver and shot 66 of the three wood. When have I broken my driver? No, you played with the three wood. Your fame is under par around, no driver. Right, thanks for calling that out. I thought you were saying like, dude,
Starting point is 00:10:07 I didn't boil over and break my drive. Calling out your best round ever and you're like, wait, we're gonna do that. Well, listen, that had that, that whiff of something I didn't, I never did, come on now. All right, I'm gonna do a couple more just so we can get through the top 10, Fleetwood. I feel like this is another interesting week, man.
Starting point is 00:10:22 We've been waiting for some proof of life. Here it is. Here it is. Okay. Nobody's, nobody's said a word about him. Almost as like superstitious. Like I see Tommy's name. I'm not gonna say anything though.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Not a coverage take, but I haven't really seen it. I'm watching play. I would say, I would say yes. He's a contender. I hope so. Come on. I think he's, we've seen this before. I don't, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Even if you haven't seen him this way, you've seen it, haven't seen enough proof for it. He shot 63 on Sunday at Shinakok. He's gone away more often than he's played well. The last year has not been good for Tommy. And I think this is where Trons had a good take that like he's still sneaky young
Starting point is 00:10:59 and has like sneaky few major reps. Like fewer than you would think because I was deep on that block until Tron said that. I was like, man, you know what, like you're kind of right. He hasn't played in a million majors. I feel like. Wait, to Niels Point though,
Starting point is 00:11:12 the European players, like the British players, have had a lot more to deal with this year, especially the ones that don't live state side. So if this year has not been great for Tommy, I like more than a free pass on that one I would say. I agree, but that's kind of why I don't think he's gonna be there. That's fine, I don't think he's gonna have the reps. And I wanna go back to Willett for a second
Starting point is 00:11:29 because that's somebody I do think, I don't think he will, like I'm gonna, do not think he's gonna win or even like, pretend to win, but I think he's gonna be around. Does that make, like I mean, I'm gonna arm the leaderboard. You know that he's gonna eviscerate himself.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Exactly. I kinda low-key enjoy Willett's place in the game. I feel like everybody shits on him and they all think he's so much worse than he is. He's a very accomplished player. And he was a very accomplished player coming into that master. Oh, he's 12th in the world.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Yeah, I mean, he gets a very unfair rap. And of course, he went into the wilderness after that, but to basically kind of almost get mislabeled as like a shitty major winner, which he wasn't. And then to completely lose it, and then come all the way back and contend in more majors, like that's really cool. And I've been saying this for a long time, I, we need to get him on the pod, because I
Starting point is 00:12:15 would love to hear more from him. I'm with you on that, especially. I think that had to do with, just, deservedly or not, the presentation of that tournament, which they presented the right way, but it's like, this is speeds to lose. And when he lost it, it was like, it was handed to Willett. Willett just went on shot 67 that day, if I remember right.
Starting point is 00:12:31 I mean, he went out and got it as best as he could. And there's no blame for him. He was nails on down the stretch. Oh, I remember the drive he hit on 18. I was like, oh man, this guy's like, he's not going to, he's not quitting. Yes, exactly. I also of course would be remiss if we didn't give a big shout out to his brother.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Who made that one rider cup so much more fun. Maybe the biggest menace of anyone here. Justin Rose. Yes, sure. I think he's gonna be there. Resounding ass. I'm gonna say no, I'm Justin Rose. I'm stalling Justin Rose.
Starting point is 00:12:58 At the time I've seen him hit on cover, he's always hitting horrible. I'm gonna call, I'm gonna call the guy out. We had a guy reach out to us on Twitter Twitter and said that just he had a theory that Justin Rose has serious allergies and that this is the year he's gonna win the Masters because there's no allergies and the reason he wears those dumb sunglasses is because He is eyes are always watering. Isn't that the day. That's what David you've all had going on as well. I think right? I don't know. I have to be careful not but Sure not, but listen, I'm gonna take from sources. I'm gonna take the invite.
Starting point is 00:13:26 And to Rose's credit, like as much as we made fun of the sunglasses, but I did meet him. I was like, do I make fun of your sunglasses all the time? He goes, I know they're horrible, right? Right? Function over style. And let me take a picture with them. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:13:39 It was awesome. All right, the last two, just because we started this experiment, CT Pan and Louis Usezin. I'm gonna give both of them. Actually, I'll give Louis a yes, but I don't think it's gonna be a competitive yes. That's, I see he's a little, he's will it category for me?
Starting point is 00:13:50 Yeah. I love the bread man, but like, that he's the definition of what I'm looking at. He's not gonna be there with you. Like, I put money on Nance, the quote, oh, and Louis Usezin, once again, you know, there he is on the second page of the leader board. Another great showing at the Masters.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Well, listen, we made it 15 minutes in, and we haven't talked about Bryson yet, so I would say now is the time page of the leaderboard. Another great showing at the Masters. Well listen, we made it 15 minutes in and we haven't talked about pricing yet. So I would say now is the time to talk about pricing. DJ, would you like to take it away? Well, would you like to do you guys have someone to say? I can go first, because I suggested it. Why don't you go first, Sally? I'd like to apologize.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Formal apology for taking Bryson to win. It was a bad pick. It is very much on brand for me, but I got very caught. You know what, I'm not gonna, I don't regret my process with it. I'm still gonna get caught up in it come April again, but he's played so bad that I do have to formally apologize. And that's how I would feel as well. That's very cool.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Cheers. Thank you. I will apologize for this week. It was a complete disgrace. Everything, including this week. It was a complete disgrace. Everything, including the driver, has been a complete disgrace. We kind of said, the driver's gonna mask a lot of these other things. He's gonna hit it down there so far.
Starting point is 00:14:52 It doesn't matter if he hits it bad. He's not gonna win, but he's not done. He's not gonna, he might not miss the cut. Continue that. Yeah, you're right, but he's, he's pretty far out of it. He's putting for eagle, with to get inside the cut line right now. Right, to get to what, nine back.
Starting point is 00:15:05 He's not gonna win. No, right. He could do some damage this weekend still. And one thing I will say in my apology, he's still the reigning US Open Champion. So before anybody's like, see, I told you this thing wouldn't work. He literally won the last master. So, or the last major. So, whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:19 And also, I'm still picking him to win in April. So that's as far as my apology is gonna go. It's like we apologize, but we haven't learned exactly. I apologize. You guys took it that way. Interesting. It's not great. It's interesting. All right. Where do we stand on? I know where he stands on. I want to say, I think Bryson quit today. I think he got a, he got a rubber the green on number three. We could talk about that shortly. He let, he's his, let his round spiral out of control after that.
Starting point is 00:15:47 I'd say he got butt hurt. He got butt hurt. I would say he got butt hurt. I'd say he looked like a little bitch. No, he looked like a big bitch. A big bitch. I don't think he quit. He has a puffer eagle on 13.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Let's just talk about that. Okay, fair and quick. That's fair. That's where the round's not over yet. So that is, he looked way too early for me to say. But for a look defeated. He, he, and as someone who knows something about moping He's moping through about three or four holes there at the end of the front nine
Starting point is 00:16:10 You know something about moping and then just ending them around with a just a murdered cutting the corner drive That everyone's like that That was very very Neil just like God this game sucks Until he can't until he squares up the driver's like Yeah devil hordes up after that Just like, God, this game sucks. Until he squares up the drivers, like, oh, this is so fun! Oh my God! Yeah, devil boards up after that. Now, listen, it was thoroughly disappointing across the board for Bryce in this week.
Starting point is 00:16:34 So I know nobody wants to hear about it. They've heard about it enough. Eyes wide open, it was fucking not good. So let's talk about three. Three was a disaster, though. It is truly the rub the green. A lot of people are looking into some rulings to say, you know, if you know it goes in a certain area to an unnormal course condition, you could have got a free
Starting point is 00:16:53 drop. We dug into the rule a little bit. It sounds like there had to have been temporary water there to get away with that ruling. I'm kind of amazed that ball wasn't found. Did anybody search for it afterwards or try to find it? Like, it's not that hard. It wasn't that much acreage to search. I offered up on Twitter, of course, this is a similar situation to what happened at Big Seater Lodge when we were there following Tiger Woods and he lost his opening T-shot.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Me and Randy quickly found the golf ball. So they need us to go to Augusta. I have no doubt that we could track that thing down. But, well, the announcers kept saying they thought he was searching too far left. But it was FALTO. It was IBF. It was IBF, that was that. But, well, the announcers kept saying they thought he was searching too far left. But it was Fowdo. It was IBF. It was IBF.
Starting point is 00:17:27 That was it. That was it. But, which I kind of look at the replay thought so too, but we haven't heard, you know, maybe somebody out there in the audience could say, maybe they found in a group behind them or something. It's possible. It should be awesome. The only thing I want to talk about, we don't have to be Bryson to death.
Starting point is 00:17:43 I know people have heard enough about Bryson. What do you think about the big thing that stuck out to me was the changing the rule between three minutes and five minutes. Because as soon as they rolled that out, they're like, oh, this is gonna speed up the game. I was like, nobody fucking pays attention to that. Like no recreational golfer in the world has ever gotten the stop clock out. The stop watch out and been like, oh, sorry man.
Starting point is 00:18:06 The clock just struck five minutes. That ball's officially pro game, though. I guess, but if it sent you back to the team, you want the masters decided, are you kidding me? That's stupid. I will say their data, I think, I believe, showed that the amount of balls that were found between three and five minutes was so menace-goo. If you haven't found them, then the first three,
Starting point is 00:18:23 you're not finding it was basically essentially the finding. Most people already gave up. Pretty, or like you can find it in that time if it's findable is the theory. Many people in the comments saying they found it a couple minutes later. So probably in the five minute window, a security guard found it.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Interesting. Is the same one that tackled Tiger last year? Don't know, I'll work to confirm that. Okay. But yeah, point being, that rule has always kind of shapped my ass, I think I just think it's kind of stupid. But five is arbitrary too, I just want to perspective. You're right, you're right, but I guess, no,
Starting point is 00:18:52 that's a good point and what I would say to that is it just looks like the USGA or the RNA or both, or whomever, just like trying to pull these little strings to be like, see, like, come on, we're trying, we're trying. In that context, I have to say that's like, dude, that to be like see like come on we're trying we're trying in that context I do that is not the thing come on I agree with you in that context Mm-hmm tough break Top break but then a lot of other bad stuff happened The rest of the round he didn't have to make bogey sure like I mean the triple bogey doesn't help he could have not made seven
Starting point is 00:19:22 Yeah, like of course, I of course and also number three, sick. Three is great. It's a great hole. It's probably it's top two or three for me. And that was a cool example. Probably I would say of him trying to bully the golf course and getting in a bad spot. And even where he hit his, his second drive was not super far away from where he hit the first one. Like that's fucked down there. That's a not where you want to be. Yeah. And so that was it. It was as fucked as he made it look. He like bladed the next shot out of the rough out of the second cut, excuse me.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Yeah. That's true. And the second one did look like it was sitting up a little bit better. Yeah. And then he's chipping up the hill. It was a tough yet to be precise, but he did not have to make bogey from there,
Starting point is 00:19:57 but the second ball was my, and to the our point, I think in the beginning of this thing was like before it started was, whether it works out or doesn't, this is gonna be amazing to watch. And to watch him try to bomb it near three green and make seven is awesome. Like that is, no.
Starting point is 00:20:13 It's entertainment. It's what I'd rather know that that can happen than it'd be like a four-gon conclusion that he can drive right next to the green and make birdie. Cause that's when it's gonna get boring. As you guys, you know, you've made an apology, Randy, I'd like to make anie. Cause that's what it's gonna get boring. As you guys, you know, you made an apology, Randy, I'd like to make an apology. Oh, my pick sucks this week.
Starting point is 00:20:29 You know what, and DJ said earlier, all my favorite golfer suck, Rory stinks. That was, and yeah, oh, he came back, you know, he shot, what do you shoot, 66? Yeah, yeah, round, round to the bed. It's like, it doesn't feel good. No, it doesn't feel good. That really, it feels like he's in it.
Starting point is 00:20:44 That hit me this morning watching Rory kind of like, chunk pole that one into the water on 16. Round round is a bed. It doesn't feel good. No. It doesn't feel good. That really feels like he's in it. That hit me this morning watching Rory kind of like chunk pole that one into the water on 16. I was. What should de-cune from the next masters as we talked about in the preview pod? All future masters. And shame on me for picking Xander. I hit.
Starting point is 00:20:57 No, Xander's right there. No, no, don't write Xander off. I they just feel like they're flat though. I feel I feel bad about know, my picks right now. Sanders three off the lead. Yeah. A couple of these guys that once it once it gets a leal good, if it gets a little bit harder, is Andrew because he was not over for all. And he's not done with his round. All right, six under a six. What a great pick. Andrew is a couple of these guys. If it gets a
Starting point is 00:21:21 little bit harder, it's going to give them more of an advantage. They're going to be able to separate themselves a little bit harder, it's gonna give them more of an advantage. They're gonna be able to separate themselves a little bit better. I truly believe that. Xander's one of those guys. This has been a big week for that. I feel like everybody, you know, that's the big complaint.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Sorry we're good to see you. You guys all right? No, I think Neil had that. I think Neil had that take lined up at like two o'clock this afternoon. Well, he did, he did look at the leaderboard earlier and I'd saw Sheffler. It was confusing. It was softly. So that could have been what happened earlier to deal.
Starting point is 00:21:48 He's one under today through 12. Okay. Well, listen, crisis has already, but still the take remains with Rory and spieth. But sure, that's what I was saying earlier for spieth more. Well, I was watching Rory chunk fat that one into the water on 16 and it just hit me. I was like, man, you know, no wonder I've gotten a little more disillusioned watching golf, like, oh my guys, fucking stink right now. It's Rory's, speed, no chance of winning majors. It just, I feel like a, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:16 I feel like the way the Cubs fans felt for so long. Just KVV had a tweet today that was awesome. There was like all these, every year of like, talking to yourself into Rory. Like, oh dude, you know, this is it. Like, he'll get the grand slam. tweet today that was awesome. There was like all these every year of like talking yourself into Rory. Like, oh, dude, you know, this is it. Like he'll get the grand slam. Oh, no, this is it. Like he's number one of the world. Do it. Oh, no, he's a father now. Just not good. He just gets himself in these holes right off the bat. It sucks.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Are we are we are we do it? Like, first of all, I'm going to ask myself this. Are we doing this? Are we going to write him off for, are we doing, like, first of all, I'm gonna ask myself this, are we doing this? Are we gonna write him off for this one? Is he out of it? He's six back right now. Shot of 66. Technically, technically, no, he's not out of it. I feel like he's gotta go out and Roy McAvoy.
Starting point is 00:22:54 But, you know, just like, how shocked the world a little bit? How often have we seen this just like, I mean, the foot goes to the, the pedal goes to the floor when, like, he's out of it, is basically seems to be the template. And as soon as he gets back into it, it seems to go away. And I know that's it.
Starting point is 00:23:09 I felt like he went to it a little earlier today, just a little bit earlier today. Like, I don't know. I was expecting more to start the day, obviously went horribly, but like. I'm not giving up on that. Show me something. Obviously, I want him to do,
Starting point is 00:23:21 like tomorrow, I wanted to go out and shoot 62. Obviously, I want that. and I will eat my words here But it's like He doesn't feel good. No right now But he had that you know I said like oh damn it. Rory hit the lowest play better. You're so fucking talented It's almost how I sometimes just like you're right He did have the lowest round of the day on the same day where he just yeah Greg Normand in the middle of the pond on 16 That was the same day. he just yeah Greg Normand in the middle of the pond on 16.
Starting point is 00:23:45 That was the same day. So he got de-cured. No, he's just not invited. That was Randy's take was 16. What was the scoring average on 16 today about 2.2? Everybody, it looked like everybody had an 8 foot birdie putt from right, you know, hit the hill, roll down. Funnel pin.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Total funnel pin. They're gonna put it on the shelf tomorrow, which will be fun. Finally, a real pin on that green. I will, it's going to be boring. It was kind of boring today, to be honest. I don't know what's exciting about those pins. I enjoy knowing that you had this opportunity ahead of you to like, all right, I got to run through this gamut of shots.
Starting point is 00:24:19 I got to hit this shot on 13. I got to hit this one on 15. I got to hit this one on 16. If I do, I'm getting three shots back right there. Like that, that is fun. That's a show. You like the formula of it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:30 I think it's, I think it's a great, there's so many shots at Augusta that like your approach shot is a huge decide, like half par of shots of like you are, have a great chance to earn a half a shot right here with this one. And if you miss it, you have cost yourself a half a shot. I love that. I don't feel that's, I don't know. I feel like that's more on just the putt.
Starting point is 00:24:53 I feel like 80% of the shots end up in the same little area. And it's like who can make a little slider, six footer. That's what I agree with that on like the par-fives, right? Where like those are great half-pars and, you know, birdies not really a birdie, that kind of stuff. But 16, I'm kind of with you. I guess it's just a different challenge.
Starting point is 00:25:09 So. I think when it's up on the shelf, I totally agree with you. It's like, I want to see guys have to make that shot if they want to birdie it. A two is a two. A two is a real two. But when it's up on the shelf, everyone just makes three. Everyone hits it still on the bottom part.
Starting point is 00:25:21 But not everybody. Not everyone but the most part. Check it out though the bottom part. But not everybody. Not everyone but everyone. Not everyone for the most part. Check it out though. Not everybody. Some people have short side themselves up on the ruff or in the bunker. Let me make you pick your favorite kid here. The rib is one back of tiger your pick last night to win.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Who finishes this tournament in a better spot? Damn you. Damn. I'm gonna say the cat. I still like them all. I feel like I'm all. I like them all. I'm gonna say the cat. I still like them all. I feel like I'm all. I like them all, like all my kids the same. Before we get any further, if I may,
Starting point is 00:25:51 I kind of thought it'd be higher. I was gonna check my live beats per minute as we go here on the hoop. I thought I'd be higher than 80. I get fired up. I feel like I get a little juiceed up. This is like my resting heart rate at night, which might actually be an issue.
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Starting point is 00:27:07 our Elijah Craig is drinking all things considered. I think that's a win for everybody. So go to woop.com promo code no laying up. You can, I mean, you can still DM, but please stop DMing me asking for the promo code because I said every time no laying up. But go ahead and ask if you forget. Where should we go next? Matthew Wolf.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Yes. Wow. Yes. The way. I just think it's. Couple of crooked numbers. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Matt Wolf. Tough day. Dumbled on 17. Tough day for the youngster. Randy, what were you doing when you were, you know, a senior in college? God, I came and remember acting a fool. Spiking the hummus. That's a deep cut. TC and I would have been rolling around dogs or just acting fool. Going to CJ's. Go, we
Starting point is 00:27:53 know the bouncer dog. Two birdies for wolf today in his final, I guess, final round. Not going to work here anymore. 77. That's tough, man. I was expecting bigger things from him, but may have just run out of gas, pick whatever cliche you want. I mean, the guy has, you know, balled out completely for the two and a half majors that he's played in other than one round. So, it was gonna happen at some first match.
Starting point is 00:28:17 It's first match. I'm unrelated to take. I've been seeing the Paul Walker, Fast and Furious, Jiff going around. I almost had you. Dude, I almost had you. I always think of Matthew Wolfen as you that. That's what you that know, like 77, no, but dude,
Starting point is 00:28:30 I played well the first one, I almost had you. That's literally what I tweeted at the US Open to Bryce. That was it? Yeah, all right, that's fine. All right. But I think of that. I almost had you and Bryce and just said, dude, you never had your car.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Yeah, that's why we do the ad reads. They slip into people's minds. Yeah, that's exception. Well, Sally reads. They slip into people's minds. Yeah, that's exception. Well, Sally, listen, I was thinking about, that's all you. That's all you. Oops.
Starting point is 00:28:50 What's the problem with, though? On the wall. I'm surprised we went to Wolf before he did speed. Well, well, he has to be where I want to go. Yeah, speed and speed's TBD a little bit. You can see in complete, we're waiting for more ballots. But two hundred.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Stop the counting for tonight. Two under through 10. Two under just enough. Here's what's gonna have on speed. This is just good enough to make me wake up very early on a Saturday morning to fire it up and watch him go bogey double. I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 00:29:16 To start the day. Perfect. It's part of the ride. You knew exactly what you're up for. And while you're up, you can flip to F1 qualifying in Turkey. You're right. Early, right? Yeah. So, you can flip to F1 qualifying in Turkey. You're right. Early, right?
Starting point is 00:29:26 Yeah. So, you know, not all bad. You say the Hungarian ring? That would be right. I don't most, I don't most rather speak Miss Akat. Like just don't, don't sneak in on the number. Just take it all away. We have not worked in a lot of questions from the, from, from Twitter.
Starting point is 00:29:43 We, we read them, we haven't listed them off, but AJ Willey, what's worse? Hadecki's outfits are his putting. Wow. Candy cane, that's a tough vibes. Vertical stripes, man. As somebody that's worn some bad stuff, like, I just, the vertical stripes are tough to get behind.
Starting point is 00:30:02 And then, like, compound that with red, it is a tough scene. You don't have to match your shirt with your shoes. Like, he does it every round though. They're pink, the shirt. That's even worse. It's almost like this off color. Like if you were to, as a man that likes blue, if you were like light blue shirts, shorts
Starting point is 00:30:23 with a dark blue shirt, that would be a bad look. I got can I be a hundo paton sometimes? I know, but you know what I'm saying right? The outfit did it and bother me as much as other outfits. That's because you are in the Christmas spirit. That's true. You're one of those guys that puts his Christmas lights up way too early. No, it's exclusively Christmas music in the car now. His, uh, no, it's not hell no. His outfit today was abhorrent. As was worse than the green one.
Starting point is 00:30:49 As a casey who maybe was cyber bullied into actually changing his shirt before he went to his first date. Shirt, what the hell was that? Unreal. You got all the fun numbers. I'm curious how Hadecki's putting this week. I don't have any acts. I don't know, I know stats this week.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Because it's a guess of the question. Never mind. All right, I'm gonna. I don't know stats this week. Because it's because it's a guess it. I guess they never mind. We'll get there. All right. I'm going to I'm going to write for three more questions here. Please. This was something we talked about earlier, but a friend of the program, Jamie Kennedy, resurfing course, not a good player in his own right, not the guy from Malibu is most one of different Jamie Kennedy. Butch Harmon was quoted. I believe this must have been on Sky Sports. Oh my God. As saying, quote, this would be the
Starting point is 00:31:24 ultimate course to take a 15 handicap, put them on every green regulation and they wouldn't break 100, which means they would have. That's a take quick. That's, but 64 puts. 65 put 65 put. You're going to be a wrong 64 to get under under a honey. The problem for 15 handicaps getting to the green. Yeah, that's not, it's not, that's just, well, I mean, they're going to three put, they're going to three put a Hyundai. The problem for 15 handicaps getting to the green. Yeah, that's not, it's not, that's just not. Well, I mean, they're gonna three putt,
Starting point is 00:31:46 they're gonna three putt a lot. It's not, they're gonna start laying up the putts. That's fine. I'll give them a pass on this. This is definitely one of those like takes that you start and you go through a bunch of possible different scenarios and you chose the wrong path on each one. I think that's probably right.
Starting point is 00:32:01 And I'm sure if he had that one back, he wouldn't say that they would not break. I'd also like to shout out TC. It's a bit of a, maybe a hyper, you know, like I go through Houston Airport three dozen times. That's what I was gonna say. Everybody likes myth, right? I like it.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Yeah. All right, we're giving it a pass. It was making a point. We're moving on. Maybe celebrating. My uncle made a lot of ridiculous. Go ahead. Matt Golden, of course, our video guy.
Starting point is 00:32:24 How do they cut and roll the greens with everyone marking their spot overnight? I have absolutely no idea. I don't have the answer that question. I have no idea. So what? Any supers out there that could help us with that? My theory, so leash put like two teas in.
Starting point is 00:32:37 I think that like they'll go in, they'll put, they'll like jam those teas in a little bit to leave clear holes. They'll mow the whole green and when they get to that, they'll mow it and then somebody will stand right there and replace his teas right away. That would be my guess. I would guess that's probably right.
Starting point is 00:32:50 And I would guess they do the same with the fairway. How about leash was grinding over that? He's getting one last look at the pot. Maybe he's gonna go try to find a similar pot on the practice green tomorrow. I don't really know what he was doing, but I was fun to see his process. He was just buying time so that Matt,
Starting point is 00:33:04 he could flash his NLE shirt. That was quite a nervous bib. All right, so good call from leash, who's not had a great year. No, exactly. Channeling at Atagusta, he's, that puts to get to five under. I mean, he's got a few more holes to put. That's what I'm talking about about lingering. Loitering.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Some people are lingering, some people are loitering. Yeah. And I don't know which one leash is, but we'll think about that. Can we, I'd like to ask you, loitering means you're going to get escorted off the premise. you, loitering means you're gonna get escorted off the premise. No, loitering means you're a menace, is what is the way I read it. Loitering is the guy that the person inside
Starting point is 00:33:30 the convenience store is like, no, you're not supposed to be there. You're looking through the blinds, like, I wish that guy would just leave, man. I just feel uncomfortable with that guy around. Patrick Reed. Patrick Reed is loitering. He is totally loitering.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Like, you're not supposed to be loitering. He's a sign, sir, no, completely, you're not supposed to be loitering. In striking distance. With what? Seven holes to play on the back. Whereas lingering is a little more just like, He's not going around.
Starting point is 00:33:52 You're flipping through the magazines and maybe you're getting a slurpee. You're just what I kind of think. And I like Camspeth, but that's kind of what I think he's doing. Alright, move. Another friend of the program, Kar, for the course. Who's the forgotten man thus far? Oh, God. Tommy Fleetwood. That's a good answer. That was a good one. I was going to the other friend of the program, Karthor the course, who's the forgotten man thus far? Oh, God. Can we fleet wood?
Starting point is 00:34:06 That's a good answer. That was a good one. I was gonna go right there. Justin Rose, I think it's been a little bit quiet. Like just the fact that he's had a really rough year and he's seven under. No, you're right. You know you could make a case for it.
Starting point is 00:34:20 And I think it's just because he was playing with the big golfer is wrong. Yeah. Like to your point, like legitimate, I think he's going to be leading after round two and he feels very quiet still. I actually think that maybe that's just because I wasn't super down with that broadcast. I was actually going to be my answer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:34 I think the cat was forgotten a little bit today on the coverage. I thought he had ton of cat. I thought the cat got an appropriate amount of coverage today. You know, relative to where he is. It was almost jarring because normally you see every shot the cat hits that I felt like I didn't see a couple holes. Where it was like, I haven't seen Tiger in a while. He's what, oh, he's three under, okay. I think your answer should be,
Starting point is 00:34:53 Shoffley maybe. That's it. Yeah, I should, I mean, to cover my ass. It should be, right? Shoffley was on the wrong side of the golf course, I think, today for the coverage at least. They seem to kind of lose track of them this afternoon. I'll say Capka, a little bit kind of floored it with it.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Every time he floored it with it, he'd be like, no, I can't. Come on, I don't want to make it look like I'm trying too hard. I've got to play this good answer too. Yeah, Capka's T19. I will also say. Capka, Capka lingering or loitering? He feels like he's loitering. I don't know which one is which, because I think he's loitering it.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Loitering is a bad dude. Is he out there ready to maybe do some, he might break the window and steal shit. Yeah, like cornbuff and farting. Bad intentions. Yeah. Lingering is like, he doesn't have the money for the magazine. Yeah, like why don't you just get out of here, man?
Starting point is 00:35:38 He's a little kid, like, do fuck off, man. You don't belong here. I'm not feeling it for Capca, because I think honestly, I think we're going to see the dudes that were in his wave, like the dudes that went, got to play a lot of golf today that were out early this morning, that I think they had a huge advantage. Golf courses, not a lot harder, but it was definitely harder the longer that day went on.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Those guys that got the Super Benign course and got to play a huge stretch where they're warmed up and could just send it. That worked really well for Rory today. I think that that was a tremendous advantage. So like somebody like Ron was playing the opposite wave that has a chance to do that tomorrow to play a lot of golf worth keeping an eye on. The course is getting more difficult though. I'd like to bring up one more thing on that though. So the second round is not over. So I don't think they can slash or willing to slash should change the course conditions too drastically overnight. They'll know the green they have to mother greens.
Starting point is 00:36:30 They will, but it will naturally dry out. It's not going to be like, oh, round three starts tomorrow spicy it up because I think they have to finish round two. I don't know what that rule is, but you it would be not within the spirit of competition to spice it up too much overnight. So this is a good question. And between rounds, they can do whatever the hell they want. It's a good question for them. I think Stephen Spears, Spire, it's not sure you're going to say Spielberg. Oh, it is Spielberg.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Sorry. Why do old players like Langer and Mies seem to play well every year at a bomber's course? It's okay. Here's, I'll, I'll, I think you just get enough for upset a place. You start to just understand where you, you, you can miss your way around a little bit. I think it's just, you know, being familiar with the course. I also think someone like Larry Meyers went out and hit, I was listening to the, our hitters on PJ Tore Radio, hit 95% of his fairways the first two days. And it's like, you just kind of blunt it around there.
Starting point is 00:37:26 There's not a bunch of big force carries. There's not a bunch of really gnarly, thick rough. So you're always gonna be around the green in two, I'm guessing, you know, on the part four. So places are nostalgic to people. And then they can kind of chip and put their way and if they're having a really good putting week, like someone like Fred Couples,
Starting point is 00:37:40 like obviously didn't have a good putting week this week, right, and like, he hits it farther than those guys, but you know what I mean? Like when to your point, you can miss your way around like you still got to make a lot of putts. And I think why you're done that. This is what he's also anchoring with. This is what with does. Welcome. Yeah. A lot of people think that with just means the bombers have more of an advantage. But in reality, at least in my opinion, it brings more people into it, for exactly what you just said. He can at 95% of his fairways, like where Larry Meises dispersion is,
Starting point is 00:38:09 like he is gonna be in the fairway, right? And that gives him a chance to hit something near the green, to hit something on the green, and it just works a lot better when, it's not, this course is not a total bomber's paradise either. I mean, a lot of those par fours kind of linger in that 440 range, which is very different than a lot of par fours, you know, lingering in that 495 range.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Like number five is a ballbuster par four now, but like 17's like 440, one is, one's like, what, like 450, something like that. Like those holes are playable for guys that hit it about that far. When everything stretches out to that 470 to 490 ranges when things really, really, really get separated. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:51 And you just have such an intimate knowledge of the greens too, right? And so you know, even the part five, like you can play then three shotters where you know you're going to have this wedge. And if I land it here, it's going to get close. And like DJ said, if you make some puts, you're going to make a cut and play well.
Starting point is 00:39:07 It's like, I think probably Mize and Longer, I was just thinking, have no doubt played more rounds at Augusta than like I've played at Jack's Beach. Right. And I found like over the last year, oh yeah, this whole, for sure, I just have to miss it here. And then I'll be like, just that institutional knowledge
Starting point is 00:39:23 that you start to accumulate. I think you nailed it on the part, I think it's more about the part five's, where they just like, it's an auto layup. So I go, I'm just gonna have a wedge in, and I know that shot, I know where on that green, I wanna put the ball. And so if they're on, it's like cool.
Starting point is 00:39:36 That's how I'll just chip it on and make a putt, right? And then like number three is another example. Oh, I'm not going for it. I'm just gonna put it right at 100 yards, and then I'm gonna, that green sucks, So then I'll have a full swing at it. So long shots into four and five, but nothing else long into the green on the front nine. You have no long irons mid irons. You'd have to hit an 11. You're going to have a long one in. Nothing really else on the back nine. You're going to have a long shot in. If you're letting up
Starting point is 00:40:04 18 up the hill. 18 maybe. And especially if you're older, it's like, you're gonna have a long shot in and you're laying up. 18 up the hill, right? 18 made that. And especially if you're older, it's like, yeah, that's a tough finish. This is a good time to bring up. Larry Mise hit driver three wood in there. Where is he? Phil's hitting driver, hitting wood.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Which is crazy. Phil Finisher is a tough, tough ask. If you're in, like, if you have a good round going. Sure. I just think there's a great time to drop. What I thought was the dumbest comment of the day by Fowldo, who said, like, guys, we can't roll the ball back. We wouldn't have, you know, guys like Bernhard and Larry Mayes,
Starting point is 00:40:35 like competing when they're 63 years old. And like this discussion, nowhere is it like relevant to distance. Like you could roll the ball back and those guys, I think would still be as competitive maybe as they are now. I don't know, I just thought that was so stupid by Fowldo. Fowldo has been after his Thursday comments were great. Like he was on board and then today it was like,
Starting point is 00:40:54 no, we can't do it. Longer. Rikishing wildly around. He's banging off the guard rails at the distance to get it. But you know, Bernhard might not be able to make it cut. Like, dude, while we probably don't have to worry about the 63 year olds when we make
Starting point is 00:41:05 that decision. He tried to whip it back around a little bit and to his credit, it is kind of hard, I think, to like get a full take on this in between golf shots. Like he's trying to make a point quickly and like, it didn't come out right. I think the argument to what he's saying is like, if it rolls back, you don't have to play it this far back. So you can play it from further up, and the long guys still have to navigate around the hazards
Starting point is 00:41:31 that Larry, Mise, and Bernard Longer still have to navigate around. Now they're playing the same game. They're still hitting at different distances, but they're not playing different games. And that's where I think like the crux of the argument is, like, Bryson blows it over all of the obstacles that are in Langer in Mises way. And to your exact point, we're not talking about Langer in Mises because this is a very unique golf course in one place that this happens.
Starting point is 00:41:52 But there's a lot of professional golfers that hit it further than those two do, but not as far as DJ and and Ram and Bryson do that can be competitive in a different landscape. One more thing. Langer's anchoring. We've covered that. Yeah, you state that at the end it bugs me. Allegedly, unless you're calling him out and you have factual evidence. I don't like the shirt. Oh, no, the shirt's leaning over.
Starting point is 00:42:17 It's not good. I don't like it. Listen, we're at a very quick TV thing. Do we want to give, you know, allegedly? Do we want to talk Michelle Wee, allegedly. Do we want to talk Michelle, we, at all, on the Feature Group coverage? It's, I was a big fan of them bringing her in. I was, I was excited to hear I was gonna go,
Starting point is 00:42:33 it's not been good. Wanna give her some more reps, but it's, it's been tough. And I think part of it, I've never done that job. I'm sure it's incredibly hard. I know they're all spread out in different spots. They're trying to figure out a bunch of different stuff. What I would love from that like featured group coverage, I say this about PJ Tour Live all the time,
Starting point is 00:42:49 don't try to do an imitation of a golf broadcaster. Just be yourself, just be Michelle Wee, like watching the coverage. I'm sure that would be fun, interesting, engaging. Don't try to be Fowda or Judy Rankin or Doddy Pepper or, you know, Ian Baker Fincher. Any of these people just try to be, just be yourself Judy Rankin or Doddy Pepper or Ian Baker Fincher. Any of these people just try to be yourself and just say what's on your mind
Starting point is 00:43:09 because I think that's where people get trapped. It's gotta be hard when there's somebody next to you like welcome to a gust of national. Here at the beautiful 12th hole, hundreds like a super professional play by play guy and when you wanna do the color commentary, it's gotta be hard to like just be natural. Yes.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Very, very much. And to your point, they're all in different locations, I think. So that's why everyone's complaining about them talking over each other. I'm with you there. They need to be talking 20% as much as they're talking, I think. I mean, it was so nice yesterday to have feature group coverage that just had all the player conversations, all the sounds,
Starting point is 00:43:44 everything you can imagine. And like, at one point they're like, listen in, as they're talking about the shot on 12, they already talked about it. And they moved, they had missed the whole thing. So hopefully she gets better, because it's a step in the right direction. It feels a little forced.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Yes. And I think that the, where they are, you know, they're not all together. I think that makes, that's a big factor. Yeah, for sure. You're exactly, DJ, that was a great take, great take. Thank you. That she just don't, you can't maintain a broadcaster,
Starting point is 00:44:13 because that's not what you're doing. But that's everyone, that's what Davis Love got in trouble for doing, that's what, like, all these guys, I mean, they just, that's why Phil was so good, right? That's why everybody freaked out when Phil came in the broadcast booth because he just, he's keeping it real. He's like, yeah, here's what I would say. If you ask me this question,
Starting point is 00:44:26 not just like, well, would you have to remember about the 14th whole of TPC Highlands? It's, blah, blah, blah. It's like, dude, just fucking talk. Just be, just be normal. Some of that's on the producers. I would love, I think the next where golf needs to go, especially with these online feature groups is to take a page of, I'm thinking of, with these online feature groups is to take a page of, I'm thinking of the NBA TV will have like a player's only broadcast on Tuesday nights where it's totally different than what you would get on network television. Take a feature group, don't have to be both of them, like one feature group and let it be Michelle Wee and another player and just help be with.
Starting point is 00:45:01 It's very natural. And advertise it like, hey, this is just two players watching golf, talking golf. I do want to give the PJ tour modicum of credit here because I think tried to do that when golf first came back, the hashtag return to golf. They tried to do that like here's 50 different channels and watch it with your own broadcaster.
Starting point is 00:45:18 And I didn't really watch it. I don't know how it went, but I think that was the closest we've come to actually doing that. So hopefully people do more of that. Credit to them Yeah, you got to pick In who you picked to know it's right on this when the college football
Starting point is 00:45:31 Yeah, exactly fired college football coach sitting around Pizza pie. That's how I watch the BCS championship It is honestly the best and like no run that one back for me. Yeah, yeah, it's so good I don't look watch this Look, watch this three technique. Watch this three technique. Especially, and I don't want to get hung up on this, but especially when you have days like this and days like the US open and these other majors where it's like, okay,
Starting point is 00:45:53 our broadcast is going to be on the air for 190 hours. Like, you can't fill that with just cliches after cliches. You got to just have it. I've said this a Bill Zillion times with it. It should almost feel more like a podcast over the top of a golf tournament. Or like a hangout or something. Yeah. So anyway, amen.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Moving on. I will say firing up in the mornings when you get amen corner cam. Oh, so feature group cam, holes four, five, and six cam and ESPN, like on a TV. Like that is like, I couldn't find time to shower this one. Don't find your, don't forget your mind groups. I gotta take on my groups.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Yeah, it's cool. It's cool, it's cool, it is a highlight reel. It is not live. Like it is not close to live. What I'll say, it's tough, you know, if you're trying to tweet along in real time. Yes, it's not great. That's not it.
Starting point is 00:46:40 If you're like my dad at the office, just trying to, I was talking to him today and he was asking about Mac, so I'm like, check it out. You can load it up and watch every single shot he hits today. And like, that's very cool. If you don't need to watch it in real time. Right. And I was the coolest part of all of that technology is,
Starting point is 00:46:55 like, by the way, a lot of shots to watch for Max today. Dennis is a Max fan? Of course he's a Max fan. Oh, he is. Everybody is a Max fan. The course. He was asking specifically, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Hey, how's Max doing? Of course. God was asking specifically, hey, how's Max doing? Of course. God, that's great stuff, man. That honestly, not good. But the best thing is you can go, like, oh, Maxpan, Bertie, Bertie Bogey, what happened? You can go click on that hole and just, he plays all the clips in succession, like, that is the best use of it. Or so, the my group hasn't worked out how I thought it was going to.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Which, it's a phenomenal idea, phenomenal technology, and it's just gonna keep getting faster and faster and more and more real time. So, this is the worst it will ever be. And it's pretty freaking cool. I'd like to propose a topic. Okay, I'd like Randy and Sal is opinion on, how do you guys feel about...
Starting point is 00:47:39 What are you proposing the topic? Are you asking a question? I'm gonna ask a question. Okay. I'd like to explain your intent then. I'd like to bring a topic to the table. Okay. Is that okay?
Starting point is 00:47:48 Just bring it to the table. Yes. How do you feel about Sebastian Munoz? No feeling. No feeling? No. Do you think he'll be around on Sunday? No.
Starting point is 00:47:59 You don't. No. Yeah, he's in that weird spot where I just, I can't really conjure much for him. I think lingering, loitering, I think he's lingering. I think he's in that weird spot where I just, I can't really conjure much for him. I think lingering loitering, I think he's lingering, he's lingering. But I can see that you got that look in your eye, I can see where I think you're going, and that he probably doesn't get the respect he deserves for. I feel like he's been around a lot.
Starting point is 00:48:17 He's been a very solid couple of seasons, yeah, absolutely. So I'm, he is on that cut line, the Mendoza line of lingering and loitering for me. I thought you were going to ask the question that we were saving for the show. Which is what? No, hold on. Can I introduce a third lingering, loitering? Please. I think some people need to be awgling the lead.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Like they're just lusts. Are you lingering or you're loitering or you're loitering? Like, they're just leering if we want to keep a little thing hell. Like, well, so define leering in this sense. They're not even close and they're just, I wish I was there. I wish I was doing that. I think it's the opposite, right?
Starting point is 00:48:52 I don't know. You got to help me out with it. You got to flesh it out for me. Well, I think it's almost more like you're, like, they're going to take it basically, right? Like, they're kind of staring it, staring it down. Like, do the J might be leering right now at the lead. Okay. Or, Ron would be the best example of someone it. I might be leering right now at the lead.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Or Ron would be the best example of someone who's like, God, he's giving me that look. Yeah. Like, Ron's going to go take what's his tomorrow. So those are the alphas, the learers. Yeah. Yeah. Let's work on it.
Starting point is 00:49:19 We're gonna flush that out. Yeah, let's work on that. Can I run through something real quick just to reiterate how hard one pro golf is, how hard two winning majors is, how hard two winning majors is? Please. Dustin Johnson, the number one player in the world. Oh, literally.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Tied for the lead after 36 holes and second round hasn't technically completed. Number one, according to who's rankings. He is, I don't recognize those rankings. What do you, my number one? Without gas, without looking, what do you think is winning chances of winning our per day to golf? In the lead, 12%. I saw there were like 25 earlier today, so I'll say a little lower, 18.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Yeah, it's got to be without clumped it is, I would say 10%, 16%. Justin Thomas, number three player in the world is 14.5%. What do they say for Charles, how the third out of curiosity? Practically a home game. They haven't factored in the home game, but he is 0.2%. Because I can tell you, my system is giving him a Chousters Something's wrong with their algorithm. They need to build in the home game Randy system love
Starting point is 00:50:15 Practically a home game Home piece. All right, so CH3 lingering Lordering He's loitering I think lingering, luring. He's loitering, I think. Lingering. Lingering. Oh, no, no. That wasn't easy.
Starting point is 00:50:28 No, he's lingering, for sure. Very nonthreatening. Okay, can we talk about the other guy, minus five, that we have? What about Phil? Phil's looks spry. Phil's a pretty loud... I'll ask you the question. Lingering or lordering?
Starting point is 00:50:38 So I want to believe Phil has one of those Saturday morning charges in him, but it's going to be Saturday afternoon, I guess. Where could be an ejection? That's the thing with Phil. Honestly, he's missed some puts that look good just on the edge. You know, I think he's a little angry. 20 footers though, I remember,
Starting point is 00:50:55 like twice today on the couch, I was like, God, Phil, another bomb. Look at DJ. But he looks good. He does, he looks good. I think this has been the whole thing, and this was my thing on the cat yesterday is like The odds that we're gonna see it for four rounds. Yeah is is tough that that doesn't feel likely who if you Ignoring any previous picks you've had so you don't have to like stick to any guns you've had if you were picking a winner right now
Starting point is 00:51:21 Who are you taking? a winner right now. Who are you? Jason. Uh, Dustin. I guess. Don't be too proud. Okay. I'll say Dustin. I mean, how could you not? I mean, I definitely the best player in the world.
Starting point is 00:51:32 He's tied for the lead. I'm going. Can't lay. Wow. Good. I like that. That's what I like. I didn't pick them though. I can't pick that one. I think Chez the top 30. No, I'm saying like to win.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Why everything clean? I know. Okay. everything clean? I know, I'm just kidding. If I, Randy, you go first. I got to think about it. Gosh, this is really hard. I think I would take all else being equal. God, a nation waits. Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't want, no one wins.
Starting point is 00:52:05 I don't want any of them. Okay, I'm going all the way down. I'm taking Kebke. Wow, really? Really? I, I think it's a three, like from an Alpha standpoint. Just to declare that data golf as a, Kebke's chance is at 0.9%.
Starting point is 00:52:22 But continue. It's a three horse alpha race between DJ. Respectfully, like wrong and JT. I'm taking JT. Okay, I'm kind of with you on those horses. You know, if you pick in horses, for like just dudes, you're like, oh man, to kill a dragon.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Can't lay a slighty. I'm probably wrong, to proud. Outside, I feel like canlay's the sexy pick. Or like, it's like, man, I want to pick him, but I don't, I have, you know, has he gotten to that level yet, I don't know. They've got Rom at 20.8. Rom is their favorite as of right now.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Yeah. Cause he's got the most golf. Most golf and yeah, he's like, he's like number one in their model. They're one, two, three. Yeah. He was their massive, heavy favorite also coming in. Meaning the model is gonna skew all his past.
Starting point is 00:53:06 JT looks great today. Yeah. I mean, he's, it feels, and he also, I don't know, it feels like he could just, I would say three and a half horse race right now is how I feel. Those three can't lay me in the outside. I did like that.
Starting point is 00:53:20 JT saying I love you to discover them. That was awesome. That was funny. All right, Randy, let's get out of here on your hypothetical. We were talking about downstairs. Oh, I was watching the, you know, I watched the guys hit drives on 18
Starting point is 00:53:32 and I wanted to ask you guys, given your own games, the current state of your games, which shot at Augusta would be the most difficult for you under pressure? Like which one shot would you be like, God, I really don't wanna hit that shot. I think, for me, it's an easy one. I don't know where I line up with my driver.
Starting point is 00:53:56 I have a tendency to pull it very wide. A chloroform. Yeah, to either smother, or even just the start line. Like, I think I'm better at knowing like where the finish line is. You know, I know it's gonna cut, but I just don't know where it's gonna start. And so that shot on 18 would be very, very, very tough for me. I was gonna say the same thing, the tight shoot.
Starting point is 00:54:15 But I feel like you would be, I feel like you could hit the second serve right down the right through the shoot. We nominated you to play the 18th when somebody asked if we had to divide the last five holes. You were gonna play 18. Yeah, but I found that to be a frustrating T-shot. As long as you didn't try to get the, you know, we tried to squeeze that F-15 ball into that, those left trees.
Starting point is 00:54:35 So I think 18 is the most visually intimidating. I think I can maybe fake it through there. The one that would give me, You think your driver's straight, yeah. Well, the one that would give me so much nerves is, because I could never reach 15 and two. So I'd be laying up on that severe down flow. And I have trouble staying down and through my wedges as is.
Starting point is 00:54:54 So I'm feeling like blade city into that back pond. The only thing I could see is I could see you bailing out way back right. You know what I mean? I'm 15, for my third shot. Great fair shot, just blow it out there with like a chop down pitching wedge and then chip on it to make your six. But I don't have 50.
Starting point is 00:55:11 That third piece, that third shot on 15 under pressure would not be good for me. Shot I would like want to hit the least is, I think the T shot on 11. That would be bad for me as well. Like I just don't wanna hit either shot on 11. I'm like, I don't, how are you worried about pulling it right or left?
Starting point is 00:55:29 Both, that's what I'm saying. So I don't have anywhere to bail on that. You've got two A-miss. I got like a four way this one right now, but. That's a good one, 12 T. I win so many people like tag me in that stupid fucking picture of like, where would you miss on the wall? And it's like, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
Starting point is 00:55:51 1,400, 1,600, 1,600, 1,600, 1,100, and 1 is deep left in the bushes. I think 12 T-shot would get in my head. Because of all those pictures. So stop tagging me those pictures. Definitely stop tagging these pictures Definitely stop tagging. Yeah, come on everyone be cool Under pressure the shot. I would like to say the most frustrating shot I find number five every time I watch it Like that t-shot. Yeah, would be a dub that whole being auto double for me. I would yeah
Starting point is 00:56:24 I would blow one right either in the bunker or way over on the road, over by Scott Brown's Grandparents. It would be this, you know, this whole sucks. How would you play at 13, would you hit the bad boy? I would, or just blow away right. Like honestly, I might hit like a two iron. I might hit the two iron down and then the two iron again And just down there and then have a little teaching wedge in my plan for me. Well yours is prime time
Starting point is 00:56:49 I got to come up with a different name for mine. Honestly, I don't want to agree that Yeah, it is a 21 degree the second shot and 13 after playing it at Golden Ocala Like hitting a cut off of the ball above your feet would be the worst result I would want to hit that shot the most of any of them But that is so freaking hard for sure so. So freaking hard. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. Augustus. Honda P. Honda P. I'm picturing, I think I could drop, you know, what would it, well, God, from the tournament, T's into 11, I would have 260. That's three shot home. That's how I was going to say. It's an easy bailout. Right. Even let's say we're, it's whipping
Starting point is 00:57:23 a hurricane downwind and then the wind stops. And I have, let's an easy bailout right? Even let's say it's whipping a hurricane downwind and then the wind stops and I have, let's say, 200 to 20 into that green. There's, I bet I could drive, drop 20 balls there and there's no way any of those is not completely blown way out to the right. We're like that grandstanders. They're all going over there on 11.
Starting point is 00:57:41 I'd also like to say, I would just, I don't just don't want to hit the shot on 17 because it's stinky and dina and that whole stinks. Okay, you got it in. Had to. Unsubscribe from 17. Cash your checks. Cash your Vegas, Vegas out there.
Starting point is 00:57:56 We went a long time tonight. You were worried about stretching now. That was great. Yeah. I'm good folks. Should we cut it there? I'm good. Any more questions?
Starting point is 00:58:04 Oh gosh, no, I'm sorry. Do I have cut it there? I'm good. Yeah. Any more questions? Oh gosh. No, I'm sorry. Do I have one more question? This is personally from me, Randy. How far back is too far back? Oh, God, that's a great question.
Starting point is 00:58:16 I'm saying, I'm saying two under is too far back. So anybody two under or worse? So the rib is still in it. I think the rib sets it at 300 because he has a chance to go like 65 clarification point to under and done with round two. Sure, sure, yeah, absolutely. Okay, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:58:33 And upon the complete, well, there's a chance, where I might be like 11 under after round two. So I don't know, but right now. I'm not under. As things stand, yeah. Seven back. Seven backs too far back.
Starting point is 00:58:44 That's too far, yeah far. Yeah great question though Please check it out. We're gonna talk about it. It's more please please hit me up with some pinch eats tomorrow morning Let me get deep in those. Well, can I can I like to yeah, I'd like to extend it for another five minutes. I got a couple of Pickums for these two. Okay Was me boy you two you can get involved. You can be the tie breaker. Okay. Who has a better finish? A bancer or Cam Smith? Abe. Uh, I'll take Cam. Tybreaker goes to Abe. Fun fact about Cam. He played in the Thursday game at Jack's Beach one time. Of course he cashed and he let the Jack's Beach golf association
Starting point is 00:59:19 keep his money. So yeah, he did. So he had a time. He had to never shout me out. He did his quote blew out his blue out his quota. he's never shot me out. He did. His quote blew out his quote. He's not a drone, which is sweet. He's not afraid to plan a pressure. Exactly. So you win a Thursday game. I like your chances. All right. Another one. I'm switching my timer. It goes to cancel it. Patrick can't lay. Yes. Sanjay M. I'll go can't lay.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Can't lay. Really? Yeah. Okay. That'll be an interesting one for Sanjay. I mean, it might be a dog. Can't lie is coming off of W and Sungjae is coming off of being in the wilderness. So, Fleetwood Casey or Willet? What's a Casey? Fleetwood Casey or Willet, I'm gonna say Fleetwood. I'm gonna say Willet,
Starting point is 00:59:59 cause I feel like Shiki. Wow, one for each of the boys. You got a tie break, what do you think? It's a bit. I think it's Justin Rose. And then the boys. You got a tie break, it's what do you think? I think it's Justin Rose. And then the next one, Rose or King Louis. Rose, I like, I'll take Rosie actually. Louis, just for Rosie.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Louis, two, two, two. Okay, I think I'm gonna take Paul Casey. Yeah, that's probably the smart play. He's got a lot of golf left in round two. It's probably the right to show. I know you guys didn't all bet on it. Let me add one more. Filler Tiger, better finish.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Tiger Tiger. Really tough out there. Really tough. I'm still taking Phil. I'm gonna take Phil. No, really tough. How about this that came from at Magic Rat SF on Twitter? Bernard Longer has competed in a major against Gene Sarasin
Starting point is 01:00:50 who was born in 1902 and Abel Gallegos born in 2002. He's had opponents that were born a hundred years apart in majors. That's a good stat. That's a cool stat. Holy shit. Someone asked for one minute on max, anything to add on max. Listen, guys just drinking it all in,
Starting point is 01:01:09 enjoying his first masters, play great yesterday, how'd it go in? He got a lot of fun. And he's on the cut line. No, the number 57. The cut's gonna move to minus one. So I'm glad he's gonna miss by two. Yeah, you don't have to sit there
Starting point is 01:01:23 and think about the one shot. We'll hear his thoughts on the plot. I can't wait to hear their pod this week. Yeah. I know he had a lot of fun. Look, he played some good golf and stretches, but I think. And he got to play with Fred couple. Well, he told us he said he loves the course. Love the course.
Starting point is 01:01:37 That was a hot take. He was willing to go. He was willing to go on the record about that. He said he loves the course. Yeah, you might want to check out that podcast. Well, I, but I thought it was nice of him to say, you know, of course, like a guy that loves the course, you want to see him play it two more times. What courses I love, I'd love to play him two more times.
Starting point is 01:01:54 And you know what? You should lowest peak and better. And I would like to shoot a bet. That's what's sad about Max is that he, his first time he shot 70. His second time he shot 70. I don't know if we've ever actually explained this, but we were real on fire. I think back to Pinehurst.
Starting point is 01:02:10 And Niel's, he didn't accomplish the first goal. Niel's whole thing. And he came at this like he was talking about the theory of relativity or something. It was completely like wonderment. Like he had just been like, oh my God, I just figured it out. He's like, I had this game plan going back to Pinehurst number two. I'm gonna try, when I go like, oh my god, I just figured it out. He's like, I had this game plan going back to
Starting point is 01:02:25 Pyners number two. I'm gonna try, when I go back, I'm gonna try to shoot a lower score than I did the last time. Whoa! Oh my gosh. Glowing braid. Guys, it sounded a lot better in my head.
Starting point is 01:02:40 So it is frustrating to see Max not be able to pull that off. I got a question now. Would you call that rule number one? We should. No rule number ones be below the whole. That's right. That's his rule. Does he pull a sandy liel and go practice at Augusta tomorrow? sandy liel has missed the cut and shown up and hit range balls
Starting point is 01:02:55 at the masters over the weekend. I think his wife and his dog are there. So like, why not? Go do it. Are you welcome? Enjoy the weekend. I don't know if you're welcome or not, but I've seen it happen.
Starting point is 01:03:05 I think so. Because tomorrow is technically still around too. So I imagine he could practice because he hasn't been cut yet. But haven't we are rumors about like Jeff Knox banging range balls at Augusta National that be like, dude, you gotta go go over to Augusta country. Yeah, that's not where you do this man. Like you're not. I don't know if it's Jeff Knox specifically.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Like don't get too comfy dude. Yeah, I think that's for members a little more than tournament competitors. Like you don't grind here. Yeah, I think tournament competitors are a lot of grind. But we'll check in with Max. What are our cut tournament? Who knows?
Starting point is 01:03:37 Sandy Lyle has done it. He's the past champ though, so it might be different flex. All right, let's cut it there. All right, guys, that was the thrill. We'll talk to talk to everybody tomorrow. Enjoy Master Saturday. There we go. Cheers. That is better than most. That is better than most.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Better than most. How about in? That is better than most. Better than most. Expect anything different.

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