No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 377: Masters Sunday Recap

Episode Date: November 16, 2020

DJ blitzes the Masters scoring record, Rory teases, JT and Rahm fade, and everything else from Masters Sunday. We discuss DJ's career, how many majors he ends up with, his best comps, why we haven't seen more of this from him, some stories from hanging out with him in Myrtle Beach, and a lot more. We go down the leaderboard, discuss Augusta's recent progressive moves, some coverage takes, and a ton more. This one was especially fun.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah. That's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Greatest player of all time. There we go. DJ Pies here. Hello. Happy to be here. Big Randy. I would ask him to apologize for trying to call DJ dead. We're putting him on his deathbed, but I expect some comments in relation to Dustin Johnson.

Randy, I'd like to thank you for doing that. I was gonna say, I, somebody needed to motivate him, so you're welcome. And it's nice to be here this afternoon, and I'm on your left for the folks wandering at home. On your left. That's about what I expected.

Before we do get going, we saw a lot of Dylan Fratelli this week. If you, they noted on the broadcast did a great job telling the story of how much distance he has gained. Maybe if I may say the best performance by somebody who gained a lot of distance going into Augusta. Am I right?

Undoubtedly. Okay. He had the 46 in shaft in his Maverick SZ. So it's Maverick SZN. He used the X-forged irons, X-forged utility irons, a chrome soft, X-golf ball with the triple track technology, which we saw a lot of. They also mentioned a couple other things about his putting, not about how good or bad he is at it, just that he keeps a pin in the hole before he hits the putts, which is... Can't argue with that, right? It's all jarring to see him fly the ball into the trees on 13.

And then it was so far down there. So far. It was a nuptial ball. He used the triple track putter from Odyssey and Odyssey won the putter count for I believe the 20th consecutive major. He's wearing quater shoes as well, made popularized by the very own our very own Tron Carter, I believe. And again, at the Zozzo Championship last month, he was the first time he tried the 46-inch

driver with a eight and a half degree head. Since he switched to the sub-zero setup, he had had 22 yards in driving distance going from 2.91 to 3.13, 4.5 miles an hour club at speed and 6.3 miles per hour of ball speed. So how fun is that? Very fun. Exceedingly fun. Yes. Where do you guys want to start with Dustin Johnson lighting a gust of national on fire? How many people have two green jackets? That's pretty cool. Dustin, of course, 2017. We talked about 2017. He was obviously going to win that one.

We felt like this was kind of a validation of that take. So I would declare him two time master champions, how you guys feel as well, maybe one and a half times. I think that's fair. I think, you know, TCA, I told you, for sure, I'm ready to recognize two green jackets, but I think we need to put a little bit of an asterisk on the scoring record for that. I think DJ was the one that he kind of, kind of, uh, sorry, can you lift it up a little bit? I think DJ was the one that kind of intimated that in his post-round thing.

He said, you know, the conditions certainly helped. He was the first one to say it. So... What? So many people are saying it was a crowning. Was it a crowning? You won by five. Absolutely not crowned.

The crown by the golf course. Let's start with... This is kind of a strange place to start, I think, but let's start with the conditions. So when people say there should be an asterisk, why was this so different? Let's unpack that a little bit because it's not like Dustin was not, you know, in complete control of his golf ball. And I would like to think that he would have fared similarly if, you know, it was firm and fast or any of that stuff. So what do you guys think? Who was led into it? Who was helped by it? Who was hurt by it. Let's start there. I just mean the sheer, just the, the, the, the,

the low scores, right? I think it helped kind of everybody, or it had an opportunity to help everybody. In that case, does it help anybody? There weren't a lot of consequences. Right. The questions asked were very different of this master than a lot of previous ones.

And so I think it, like a teeny, the smallest, tiniest, tiniest, asterisk goes on this one, I would say, and that it was, obviously the golf course was set up extremely easy or ended up playing extremely easy, broke the scoring record and Cam Smith became the first player to shoot in the 60s and all four rounds and in the master's history

and he didn't win it. Lois score ever for runner-ups was Sung J and Cameron Smith. There is something to the fact that Lois cut, I believe. Yeah, there's something to the fact that this golf course played extremely easy. And when Dustin got the lead, there wasn't that bite in the golf course. There wasn't like, you know, they still had to answer a couple questions coming in, but he answered them emphatically, but a lot of those golf shots are not nearly as difficult

when the ball's going to stop where you landed. I mean, seeing Sungjae get up and down from where he got up and down from on 15 or for Tally on was that 17 like there I mean I mean guys were guys were getting it close for some pretty bone spots. Yeah and I'm glad to see you know DJ tied for low round of the day today which again I don't think puts an asterisk on his performance. My point was just like, when we hear about, oh my gosh, 20 under as a scoring record, I'm always going to think, well, yeah, I was kind of playing a little soft and easy that week.

But I'm not taking anything away from his performance. I think everyone still wants it as bad, right? And it's all the best players in the world going for it. So in that regard, like a little bit tongue in cheek when we say asterisk, but at the same time, like this was very different than the masters. I think down the stretch, seeing him, like seeing how windy it got, the back nine there,

like seeing how, I mean, he shot three under on the back, I think that that's, it was impressive to see him coming down the stretch and he played best when it was toughest, too. His back nine today felt a lot like his round yesterday also. Where it was just like, yep, he needed to hit that shot and then he did it. No, he needed it, you know, he laid up in the perfect spot and hit a wedge to the perfect spot and, you know, made some of the putts, didn't make some of the putts,

but it was never in question after really as late as maybe the shot on 12, you know, he hits that green on 12. It's like, okay, this is, this is for sure. Once he got through seven, it was, you know, because you know he's gonna, at worst, make par on eight. He's gonna have a look at birdie on nine. 10 off the down slow mud ball from 215.

That was a crazy, unbelievable shot. We're making bogies come through that one. It was organic, man. That's all right, sorry, apologize. Like that's where making bogies come through that one. It was organic. That's all right. Sorry. I apologize. Like, that's where it started to go wrong for speed. Speed in 2016, bogie 10, bogie 11. I thought you meant this here.

No, like, that was Thursday. And then had to stand over that shot on 12, and his mind had to be racing. So you had to get through that gamut, and once it was through that, it was over. But even then, though, like, I still think it's not like the, when the greens don't have a bunch of fire in them, you can ship it relatively close. As long as you punch out or play to the middle of the green and two pot, like worst you're going to make is bogey. I think what's interesting about the conditions is it allowed dust into showcase how good

he was. He was never going to lose it like you're saying. It also allowed not to take anything away from these guys, but a lot of either first timers or smaller names quote unquote to get up there. And I think, Tron, like if those guys had the foreshot lead going in the back nine, like we might have seen a little more fire from the golf course, you know, like see the cats 12th hole or some stuff like that. I mean, it was it was out there to lose if you wanted to. I think we don't and I don't think anybody is, but we don't want to take anything away from what Dustin did

because he fucking slammed the door really, really hard. And that's why, you know, it was not a crowning. We will be the first one to let you know when that wasn't crowning. But when did anybody get crowned? Well, I was just going to say for Dustin in particular, I mean, cam smith shot 69 and M shot of 69, you know, it's not like those guys just vacated it in one way You know, I as far as did anybody get crowned that's an interesting We can explore that later on but explore that space. Yeah

I had it I couldn't help the feeling of being upset with DJ as this was coming to conclusion of like, like why doesn't this happen all the time? Like come on man, like this, we know you have this talent, we've seen you do it in so many tournaments, not just like small PJ Tor events, like you go through his list of wins,

it is deep, it is complex, big game hunter. Yes. I got so frustrated with you guys last night when you're like, man, like you look at all these times that I'm like, all right, cool, there's been how many times that he's, that he's spit the bit. I wouldn't say Harding Park was one of them. I would say,

pebble certainly he didn't have it that day though. Whistling straight, some weird fluky shit happened down the stretch there. But, but otherwise it's like, I don't think he's been in enough of these spots to where it was a Norman situation or something. Not a Norman situation, but enough of these that he should have slammed the door

on more majors to this point, like a hundred percent. He could have slammed the door to Harding Park. He had a lead. I think we're called also shut 64. Right, but it was out there to be taken on that day, similar to today. This was a tipping point. I think D.A. Sorry, I'll let you explain it, but I thought that was absolutely there to be taken on that day. Similar to today. This was a tipping point. I was, yeah, exactly.

I'll let you explain it, but I thought that was absolutely what today was. Yeah, we were talking earlier this morning, and he, it's weird when you kind of know you're living through a moment like this, and you never really know if it's recency bias, or if you're putting too much emphasis on it, but that's totally how I felt this morning,

which was, if he slams the door on this one, like I think he banishes all those demons you're talking about. Not banishes, but you know what I mean? The good is outweighing the bad at this point. Whereas, dude, if he would have had a historical blow up today, like, he would have been our generations Norman. If he blows straight out, I'm sure he'll leave.

Yeah. Final round of masters. It's all of a sudden, like, dude, we gotta talk about this guy. But to your point, Tron, I do think, like, next time he's in this situation, I think there's a lot less like, oh, I don't know, member, member chambers Bay, member, member Pebble Beach.

I like, like going back to chambers Bay, like I don't think even that one, like I have a hard time pinning that, like yeah, he hit a bad pot on the 72nd hole. Great. Three pots. I think it's just, on weird ice cream. I think it's the same shot in there. Nobody talks about that. Hit it like eight feet.

I think it just goes to like, I mean Norman had his fair share of stuff that he did nothing wrong and he didn't like Bob Tway holding out Larry Meyers chipping in. Like it's just like a accumulation of heartbreak that is like, all right, wait, at the end of this career,

we should see this stack of this mini-major. And we might still get there. Like today was a big sign of like, maybe he is gonna end his career with four or five of these things. And I hope that he does anything less than that, I think would be a bit of a disappointment and a bit of a, just not representative of the talent level of this guy.

I mean, the way he plays it, I try to piece this together on Twitter afterwards, was like, that formula is almost damn flawless. Like a very long hitter with a five yard fade that doesn't miss left, that is solid with his wedges and has a complete all around short game. Like, whoa, that, this should be more than the second one

because that plays well anywhere. Yeah, no doubt. And he plays such a disciplined game. 100% I'm thinking it's a near enough credit for that. This should be more than the second one because that plays well anywhere. Yeah, no doubt any place so He plays such a disciplined game 100% Near enough credit for that. I think we saw a lot of this week too was it wasn't I'm trying to think of a good example of somebody who really when they have a going is just unconscious and like kind of Bludging it to death like that's now what this was this was we said it on the live show last night

Like it felt like watching the cat to an extent, right? Where it was just like, all right, here's my spot to strike, cool, I'm gonna make birdie here. Here's my spot to just not, here's a bunch of holes where I'm just gonna not do something stupid. Whereas when I feel like I'm watching JT when he's super hot, like, like JT or Rory, like those guys need like a heat check. And they're gonna keep going, right at 10.

Oh, cold time off. Yeah, but like DJ's gonna, he's playing within himself and he's not trying to tempt fate. Like, whereas like, I feel like Sungjae shot into 11. Today, like, that's a shot that like, I could see Rory or JT. Yeah, that's right. Yeah.

So let me ask you this, given all that, how the hell four months ago did you shoot 8080? Like, that's something going on in your eye. That has to be injury. We also, first COVID survivor to win a major. That we know of. That we know of, that's something going on in your eye injury. We also had first COVID survivor to win a major that we know of that we know of that's absolutely right. I interesting little note here is that Dustin Johnson now 24 career PJ Torweins two majors Johnny Miller 25 career PJ Torweins two majors.

Here I don't think DJ's done. I was gonna say in DJ doesn't have the yips and he's planning against a lot more depth. You know what's interesting about DJ is and maybe it's just because I keep thinking all day about how some J's 22 years old. DJ's 36 and I feel like we see this a little bit with like Adam Scott, Justin Rose, some of these guys who have kind of like peaked at this mid-30s range and you start to, you start to fool yourself into like, oh my god, this is going to go on for another six, seven, eight years and it kind of just doesn't. And I don't know what your guys' outlook is on DJ from that regard.

He's not young anymore, he's not like the young gun, even though he kind of feels like it. He's got a long live swing though. Even though he kind of feels like it. He's got a long-liled swing though. Yeah. I think he's gonna he's gonna age gracefully. I would say this is a total without looking at swing numbers. Obviously I'm not a swing coach. blah blah blah all that stuff. I would say that 98% of his driver swings are within like one and a half miles an hour. Like it's's very similar. Like, he is not, you know, trying to dial anything up with the driver, he has just found a stock shot that he is incredibly, incredibly comfortable with.

And I see no reason he can't do that for five to six years, it doesn't, I mean, this isn't Bryson, like, he's not trying to time something up. He's not like trying to find something. This is a very repeatable thing that was in, like, it was a clinic with that thing this week. No doubt. And that's where I think it's just kind of hard to square is, you know, it's, when you watch him this week and really like the last, I don't know, eight

months, it's like, dude, he's the, by so far in a way, the best player in the world. And this just feels like it's going to last another 10 years. And a lot of times, like, it doesn't. So it's, it's a little bit of a weird thing to square. We could be an airing a kind of DJ, Bryce and Era, where if those are the two top dogs, we see some battles. Which would be pretty cool. I'm bummed we didn't get to see a battle this week. I'm so mad about, I'm even more mad about Wingfoot now.

Like he was supposed to win Wingfoot. That was a great setup for him to do and he did not. It just, I felt like after 36 holes, you had ROM, JT, you had some horsepower up there and a lot of that was Dustin slamming the door but a lot of it wasn't. Those guys were fucking disappointing too. So you guys continue to be a little disappointed. Going back to DJ, I love the emotion post-round. I think he gets so much shit all the time for, oh, you know, Dustin's an idiot or Dustin doesn't care. He doesn't try hard.

Like, no, like, I continue to be on this block. I think Dustin's like a genius. He's not a, he's not a, like a, a brilliant book. Yeah, he's like a genius. Yeah, he's, he is a brilliant, brilliant human being. He knows how to manage his energy. He knows how to manage his bandwidth and focus.

He has great spatial awareness. The guy's like, he's like one and a billion, right? And he's just either, I would say, either great at or extremely not great at, depending on how you look at it, at faking the bullshit. He just has no interest in faking the bullshit. Tell a story of what we were hanging out with the Myrtle Beach, you know, my earlier.

Well, we were just high, it's great. So when we had him on the podcast, we went down to his, or I guess up to his junior event in Myrtle Beach and we're all, there was like a little dinner gala, I don't know, gala, kind of, whatever, dinner thing afterwards that we all went to and we were all kind of standing on the bar

and he, this is gonna come off as him being dickish. That was the last time. That was the last time. That was the last time. That was the last time. That was the last time. That was the last time. That was the last time.

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That was the last time. That was the last time. That was the last't trying to get away. Wasn't like having a bad time. Like you can really read when somebody's like, doesn't want to be there, you know? Wasn't on his phone. Wasn't on his phone, just like standing there and it was just like, if you guys want to talk, you can ask me something, but like, I will not be participating otherwise. I am totally content standing here in silence,

just hanging out and having a beer with you guys. And maybe we just like drastically read too much into that, but I think all of us walked away as like, that guy is so, uh, in so much control over like what he spends his energy on. Yeah. There is no faking anything and it is just like, hey, I need to go practice and then he goes and practice.

And when he's not, he's like, I need to, I need to rest for the next time I'm practicing. Like that's how it feels like he lives his life and that is a gross oversimplification. I know he's had kids since then, and I'm sure that's a massive factor in it as well, but it was wild to see. The thought of these guys here have a whatever somewhat influential podcast and what I say or do might be forming an opinion on that and that might be getting out in the public

couldn't have even registered on his radar. Like he just could not have, like a refreshing thing in the world. But not in a dickish way. Like we were all just kind of in awe of it. Like I think we're all like decently good at just whatever small talk with these guys. I had nothing.

It's like you, you heading back like tonight? Like it's more like, I was talking about South Carolina football with him and he's like, yeah you heading back like tonight? You're like, it's tomorrow, it's like. I was talking about South Carolina football with him and he's like, yeah man, most champ. That was it. So you should have hit him with like, well, big golf time. That was very, very interesting.

He's just so efficient. Yeah, it was, yeah. It was bizarre. Before we get going, I wouldn't say that this was necessarily a great finish. So I can't kind of lead in with speaking of great finishes. Well, I think you just did. I was and you disrupted my flow there,

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And unusually thoughtful question, not really even snarky from him today, but Is DJ more likely at this point to win the Grand Slam than spieth? The career Grand Slam career Grand Slam so British you need to know what in the British and the PGA which the PJs Like a foregone conclusion Also, I don't have to tell you Randy next year next year, we're at Kiowa, practically a home game for Dustin, which I would like to address that later on.

I think you would have to say, for sure. I mean, the whole bit is, right? Reasonsy bias on these podcasts, which is, you know, I think we lean into that a little bit. Dustin's game is so agnostic for all of these. Like you were saying earlier, like there's no... And spieth sucks. I think I've moved into the anger stage of grieving.

Yes, God, that's well said. That's exactly how I felt all weekend. I think a boiled over, I forget if it was a Friday show or the Thursday show, or just, like the realization, or just like, God, all my favorite guys fucking stink. No wonder I don't like watching golf right now. All the guys I ride for suck right now. And Speed is the poster child for that.

To answer that, yeah, I don't know who would. What does Speed have to win, remind me? PGA. Remind the folks list. Speed would have to win the PGA. Of course, another frequent poster, deep fried egg, also asked it. You can tack Rory, I have that question as well. I was going to say, would you put Rory ahead of...

Yes, I win the Master's, D-Jandy. I win the Master's, D-Jandy. I would. I really think... I'm a little bit more bullish on Rory. Yeah. It's a meme and kind of a joke at this point on bending over backwards to find a reason my Rory is going to win one of these things.

But I walk away, encourage more from this week than I ever have from a Master's for Rory. I swear, I know walk away, encourage more from this week than I ever have from a master's for Murray. I swear, I know that sound, that may sound like ridiculous, but I really, I really do. That was some excellent, excellent golf definition. He found it faster, and I honestly think

he's gonna show up in April with finally like a fuck it at it. He was 14 under the last three rounds. Yeah. Do you think another master's in five months helps Bryson, DJ, or Rory the most Rory? I would say Rory. Yeah Bryson I think this this now off time will help Bryson the most so he needs to go get a little bigger

And he's gonna say it's getting stronger. I think it's probably gonna hurt DJ the most because he's just hot right now Yeah, yeah, yeah, hopefully like five months, hasn't now. Yeah, yeah. He's like, He's like, He's like, He's like, He's like, He's like, He's like, He's like, He's like,

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A little bit more compared to DJ. Just, I don't know. I just think DJ plays, I mean, that was your point. I think he plays such proper golf that like firm it up the firmer the better, I think, for him, but Rory drove it so freaking good this week. Like that was really encouraging. He found an extra gear that seemed like a not

quite Bryson level length but more, definitely more control than Bryson had. And I think his approach play was truly dreadful this week. But the shit that Rory was doing like on 13 and 15 last two days, I'm like, what like 16? What the fuck? Like 15. Well, last two days, you made par from, you made par yesterday from the front leg, you had par. He was raised in the water, love it. He was raised in the water, love it. And then, you know, and then he just hits these

nonchalant, epic little wedges and makes a pud. It's like, dude, like, like, why are you making this so hard on yourself? I totally, it looks like to me, this is total, you know, guessing from what I'm watching on TV, that Rory, and from what I can tell, it looks like to me, and this is total, you know, guessing from what I'm watching on TV that Rory, and from what I can tell on Instagram and all that stuff, he has been adding speed. And his swing looked like more speed, and he looked to have a disconnect with his driving

and his approach play. And do I think in five months, he can kind of bring that closer together and dial that back a little bit more? That's my hope. I mean, the driving is what has me, and like, if he keeps driving it into that position next spring, there's no way he hits his irons and wedges his pores. He did this week. I'd be my guest. And he's got more perspective. I didn't even thought about how much he's only going to get more perspective. I didn't even thought about how much perspective I got there. Kind of rolling a bunch of questions up into one

here. But Randy, I was wondering if you could take us back, explain the death call. We were kind of dancing around and joking a little bit. And I guess the natural follow-up would be last major of the year. Do we want to issue a death notice to any other players? That's interesting. So, a couple years ago, or I guess the end of last year, DJ was on my radar for a while, but finally at the end of last year, made it official. I gave him one more year to win a major, or I'm declaring him officially dead over. And

I appreciate you guys reminding me that the masters this year in November was part of the four allotted. So, you know, here are the good news. He has risen. He has, he has, he's very, he's not that, he got the mat treatment or anything that you think he responded really well to. It just, you know, we, we, some, some trial, some really cutting edge trial therapeutics. I think they'll be, you know, you'll hear a lot about them in the coming months, but responded really, really, really well. And be, you know, you'll hear a lot about them in the coming months, but responded really, really, really well. And honestly, right now, I think we're sending them home.

We want them to enjoy his family and life. And a lot of the woods. It's just a happy story. Yeah, it's very cool. To the second party question, I'm not, actually, I'm not declaring anybody on Death Watch for 2021. But I got my eye on some people. So yeah, stay tuned next year. It's a very easy on the one that's dead to you. Rory is dead, okay. Speed is, speed sucks. I kind of think speed's dead,

but I also think he kind of reincarnated himself into column more, call his body. And came Smith today is what it looks like. And a little bit of And he kind of, his spirit moves into different people. It's like ghost. And I would like to make clear that the speed cheering and riding for is not as in, I think he's close. And it's about to happen. It is a total just like blind. This is going to be fun regardless of what happens.

I just want to make that clear. Yeah. That I have not in any way been like, oh no, I mean, the alternative to this is like, it turns into, I told you so, the podcast, which is what everybody wants to listen to. No, I think I'm going that direction. Speed will be back at some point. Well, that, sorry, two different questions. I think-

I've turned back as long as he's not gonna be back, but he's not close. He's very, very bad right now, yes. And he needs to let Greller spread his wings. He needs to give Greller to Roy. Do you think April 8th, do you think Greller's on the bag for speed? That's my birthday. I hope for a birthday present.

That Greller is on the bag for another top template in the world. Wow. I think speed needs to start fundamentally changing stuff because what does speed should go play baseball for a while. Be sick, or hoops or something like that. But I think at some point, he needs to start blowing shit up. I love it.

It's so weird that he can struggle understanding this. I would almost understand it better if his game fell off the face of the earth rather than just like being mediocre. You know what I mean? 100% know what you mean. Like he makes birdies still, he goes on runs. Went from like a 10 to a seven.

Yeah. Instead of a 10 to like a three. Which is kind of the do-of-all thing, I think, right? And I know the gap between like the 80th ranked player in the world and like the fifth ranked player in the world is not astronomical. Like incrementally getting there is so, so difficult, but like it's kind of a thin line.

It's easy to fall from fifth to 80th. And you know, if it's just a couple of things go wrong, but I'm just so curious as to how that happens, you know. If he wasn't making any birdies and it was, you know, shooting 75, we're not in smiley coffin territory. It's not like that. Not even close to that. It's just like how you can fall from the best

to just very mediocre despite a ton of talent. It's just something. Let's not talk about speed. It makes me sad to be like, there's so much other. Okay. The only only other thing I want to add, Max Homa had a really good point about this a while ago. I forget when he was talking about this.

But a lot of it too, I think think is the constant, constant, constant analysis. Like I wonder how much different spieth score cards look than a bazillion other players in the top 100 that we just don't even pay attention to, right? Like I'm sure Ian Polter goes out and shoots 75 every now and again and just nobody at all thinks about it, right? And spieth is under this microscope. And so he's got a kind of, you know what I mean? Like you can kind of, to your point,

it's all like there's not a huge difference between 80 and five, but it feels a lot, lot, lot bigger when you're constantly like obsessing over every one of his rounds. Right? And so I don't know how much of that is rationalization of me trying to pretend it's not as bad as it seems, but I don't think it's to your point It's not smiley cough and territory. We need to very

Vocally call that out that like he's not shooting 85 every day back to DJ real quick. Um, sorry He's also on three majors since Rory last one. Yes, exactly wild. I think the I think the Polter Conf is like Polter comp is like, Polter and Speed might be the same player right now. Are they they're probably similar in the rankings, right? I mean, I think Polter's 49 speeds, speeds 80, speeds missed a like four out of his last. Four of us are seven cuts at this point, but I don't know,

sometimes I was going to go back to the DJ and we're looking for comps for him, which I think is a challenging thing, and I'm just kind of scrolling up the people that are just above them in total PGA Tour of Winds and comparing that to major winds as well, trying to avoid too many that are, you know, pre-World War II. Leetra Vino had 29 career tour winds, six majors. Jean Litter had 29 wins, one major. And the name that I'm scrolling up and seeing that I'm getting a ton of vibes about VJ.

34 to our wins, three majors. That sounds very much like a place that Dustin might end his career with. Yeah, that's a good comp. Yeah. So, this is kind of a sports talk radio. I think more. Good.

I don't know, it's the recent Zeebias. We could have more more wins more majors both Could could It's a big that's a big I mean he could end up where Mikkelson is in another 10 years That I don't know about that I mean DJ he's got the natural ability and 15 wins and it seems like he's still have like two major wins at this age right now At age 36 it's like it seems like DJ's the kind of guy that's going to be well served by experience and know how like he's gotten markedly better in the last five years as far as playing proper golf like this.

So the kind of sports talk radio question I was going to ask, of course I would say everybody at this table probably thinks he's been an underachiever to this point. What tips the scales on that? How much is enough? I think three majors is, I think he gets one, really he's got three right now, but really if he gets one more official major, you know. That was quite the critics. I think four would do it for me.

Three, and this is not a shot at Padre Harrington, but Padre Harrington has three majors. Yeah. He kind of gobbled them up in a very short period of time. I'm not taking any of that. Well, the cow was a way of war. I mean, guys, as a follow-up to that question, what would another FedEx cup do for you? I'm not prepared to answer. That's wholly changes his entire legacy, right? for you. I'm not prepared to answer.

That's totally changes his entire legacy, right? Mm-hmm. If I so many track bands, he can just leave them around at different stops. I think the Saga Major is always very, very important. I think three is, hey man, you'll never hear another peep for me about Dustin, not realizing his potential. And even two, two is just such a bigger step than one.

Like, right, like, thinking about all the guys I have won. Yeah. And then, you know, validated eventually with a second. So this is a good win for golf today. Can I name some three-time major winners? Just to see if how we feel about DJ being around this group. Jordan Speeth, Patrick Harrington, VJ as mentioned, pain Stewart, Nick Price, Hale Irwin, Larry Nelson, Billy Casper, Julius Boros, Kerry Middell Koff, Jimmy DeMarit Henry Cotton.

And then we kind of get into the pre-World War stuff. But the four timers, Brooks Capka, Rory, Ernie L's, Raymond Floyd, pre-World War II guys. That feels like we're going to be lost. Yeah, that's what I said. It feels like a good comp for him. Even right now, just there's a little bit more depth in the game. I would argue than when Price was playing. But Price only had 18, you know, PGA Tour of Windsor, played Worldwide as well. But I think, you know, having like that, I don't know price

like they feel like they have kind of a similar game great iron players All right question for you guys who who finishes with more majors from here on out Brooks or DJ I Think DJ Right started you're saying like starting now or starting this morning? I mean, I guess both. Like so Brooks has, Brooks has how many? Four or more.

DJ's got two, slash three. Like overall, do you think Brooks finishes with more? Overall. Overall. Yes. Are you saying, wiping the slate clean? And then, oh, so, all right.

So then, all right. So you're saying Brooks overall, and then from here on out wiping the slate clean. I'm going to say Brooks just because we, just so I don't get caught up in the recent CFDJ. I was going to say, it's DJ literally doubling his career. I think Brooks can absolutely win another one, which means if they both ended up at five, if he told me that today, I wouldn't be shocked at all. I think the other thing though about Brooks is,

I don't think Brooks is gonna have the longevity, both with injuries and in-wise, like with the passion to play. It just has a big ass head start. Forza, a lot bigger than two slash three. But as we've seen with Rory, you can get six straight years now without winning a major.

So, I mean, because DJ kind of dangled his, his ball ball. His ball, of dangled his is all his what is over kept like you know like all that shit that kept this sad after what was that last pga that was harding part yeah yeah what's fun now I think now it's like okay well let's see what like let's see if kept corresponds next year yeah I think I'm more excited about where golf could go than I have been uh in the 18 months. I was thinking that too because I think even just looking back and writing down that Dustin Bryson and Colin Mark Howell are your major champions this

year, like that's fucking sweet. Dude, it's been a what an unfer like a half a deck more than that. But even just those three just like drastically different styles, drastically different personalities, like interesting, all three are fascinating to watch. That's awesome. Good for everybody. The young guns showing out in majors this year, like how many like wolf making a run at two majors,

SungJ here at here, we haven't talked about SungJ or Cam Smith yet, but those, I mean, which again, you don't want to take anything away from anyone, but man, no fans has to be a big factor for that I don't think so as much with cam Not that's a cam. I have the young like the under 20 24 and under crowd like if you could crunch the numbers on You know if you could come up with some metric to show how young inexperienced players did in the majors this year versus other years

I would guess this year's higher is It's right, it has 100%. Like that is a thing. And I think it is kind of like, we kind of, as we're watching it talking about it, lacking juice, it's like that. You don't, this year has made me really, really, really appreciate how much crowd noise on TV is the thing. And I said this, you know, early on in the pandemic process, it's like, I'm ready for an experiment.

I'm ready for somebody to try some gentle clauses, some cheers, some groans, like some piped in crowd noise. Look, they have enough trouble as it is showing the golf shots. So if they can't handle that, I'm... We're entering a new era though. That's true. I still don't expect a lot to change in this new era, but I think that would go a long way

with the viewing experience is just to be reminded of what that used to sound like with crowds and whatnot. So... I'm kind of bummed with, like, we're talking about how excited we are for golf. is just to be reminded of what that used to sound like with crowds and whatnot. I'm kind of bummed with, we're talking about how excited we are for golf. I'm kind of bummed that the major championship venues in 2021 are lacking. Hit us. Again, for the people listening, I might not be aware. Augusta, Tori Pines, Goood.

Royal Saint George, Keele. Which I think Saint George is, I like Royal Saint George, it's just not my favorite of the, yeah, it'll be nice to see British open to after a long layoff, but Tori Pines is tough. They should do two British opens next year. Oh, let me see.

Back to back weeks, which where's the PGA after that? In 22, I don't remember. But it's country club, St. Andrews, and somewhere good, I think, in 22, but I can't remember. I think due to go back to Law Hall, is that Bedminster? I think it might be. Oh, that's right. God, that's gonna be.

How? Okay. I know everybody's got a lot of shit going on. I know everybody's, you know, listen, we're, we're, yeah, everybody's pulled in a lot of different directions. How has nobody brought that up? That the PGA of America is scheduled to host a fucking major

at Donald Trump's golf course in like a year and a half. That's wild. There's no fucking way that's gonna happen, right? Just in general, looking at it. Really? You got Kioa, Trump, Bedminster, Oak Hill, Valhalla, Quail Hollow, Aronomink, and then Frisco, and then the Olympic Club.

Frisco's not till 20. All this roll. I thought it was 25 that they were going to Frisco. No, 27. Imagine being the next couple months. That's what I was going to say. Imagine every day when that dude fires up his phone, being at the PGA of America, it's just be like, God, I hope nobody remembers where we're going to the 2022. It's just really hard for me to get excited about a lot of those sites. PGA is a bleak scene. Go forward. It gets it gets it starts to get better and better, though.

23rd and say, let's make it through Tory. And then I think it gets it starts to get better and better. Better and better though. 23rd. I was gonna say let's make it through Tory and then I think it gets really good. Yeah. We got country cob LACC pine herds. I got some some cool stuff coming up. Aronomic in 26 is going to be. I don't think that's going to happen. Like they're going to assault that course. I don't think they're going to be able to play it.

I mean, they're going to have to redo it and I could. Yeah, it might be in a ball rollback by then though too. I don't remember that. Very interesting. Who went to talk Cam Smith? Yes. Sure. That was inspiring stuff, man. I remember I felt very similar of course because he was playing well, but I was very excited to watch Cam this year after Sony.

Like, that was, he's a very exciting, exciting player. And then you kind of dropped off the face of the map for like eight months. Fish the lock. You say Sony I. I was so impressed by his writer cup his singles match against JT. Yeah, presence. Excuse me, presence cup against JT. Complete the definition of a dog.

Exactly. And so I was really that one tweets who ever sent that in. The. The. The. The. The guy. I. I. And so I was really that one tweets who ever sent that in the I think I was more excited because of that and you know, we We know him a little bit from the local Thursday game. He's like a local coffee shop He's like a mini Aussie Shepherd. Yeah, he's not very big but like man like he there's nothing you will protect your shit Yeah, he works hard. He's cool, he's lovable. I mean, he kind of hit it all over the map today and it was still even making the turn.

It's like, if anyone's gonna run him down, it's gonna be this guy who's kind of spraying it everywhere. It was just... It was just shot on this. It was really fun to watch. One, nine? God, yeah. Yeah, seven and nine.

I will, a lot of people are calling for me to apologize on, I didn't think of would last four rounds and it did. I know, but I'm gonna say apologize for that. And then he had Bussi on the bag too. I know, you know, Bussi taken over for Sam this week. His caddy was down in New Zealand and I didn't want to quarantine for like two weeks after this, going back down there for the holidays,

but seeing Bussi on the bag, aspirational like, by perfect spiritual Sherpa around Augusta. It's just, it's really fun to see great putters. You know what I mean? Like, I know that's an obvious statement, but it's fun every time they get on the green, like, oh, this guy might just will it in.

That's, those are fun people to watch. I remember somebody else, we used to believe that about it. Exactly. That's why I sat on Twitter. I think he was the, the four-local version of George's feet. Give it a I said on Twitter. I think he was the the four loco version of George's feet Give it a couple months, and I think you could win a lot of money with the trivia who's the only player to ever shoot four rounds in the 60s That's a really good. It's not as cool as that block to be on. Give me till tomorrow

It's bizarre that cam that the like the Sony open that he won was the most Atypical Sony open. It was yeah super soft. Yeah, super soft and wet and all that and then the masters that Open that he won was the most atypical Sony Open. It was yeah, super soft, super soft and wet and all that. And then the masters that he that he finishes T2 and same kind of deal, which is weird because he does not seem like that kind of player. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think I would say softer.

Um, can you can get away with you get up and down more. A prestige. You can get him down and get away with not being a pristine ball striker. About the up and down on 15. From off the bridge. He was like, oh shit, after I hit it on 15, out of the fairway and then he goes left of the bridge. And then yeah, somehow gets it up and down from there.

There was some crazy, there was some crazy shit going on on 15 today. I feel like all the possibilities were in play. Like, uh, Leishman, he was over right of like almost in 14 fairway, but like behind the TV tower, behind the bunker, had to just play one up to the right, lay it up for his like his third shot, laid up his third shot to his foreshot, and then foreshot put it like 25 feet and made this bomb, thought it was crazy. Nothing to back this up, but I feel like

I saw more balls going that long water on 15 than I ever have before. I feel like I saw more going the long water than the fun in the front one. Yeah, I think because it was so soft guys, weren't fearing sending it. Yeah, maybe. A lot of balls were hitting on that middle of the green

and stopping, but if you carried it too far, it was gonna bounce. I'll go with Neil on his take about, I mean, a lot of balls were hitting on that middle of the green and stopping, but if you carried it too far, it was gonna, it was gonna, it was gonna, I'll go with Neil on his take about, like they should shave that bank down all the way to the, the front bank. I think they, usually the plays like that. Usually it's firmer or faster, whatever enough

that the balls are gonna go in there. Yeah, yeah, just, didn't have any bite. Golf course looked a little, a little rough around the edges at times, by the end of the week, which, for Augusta standard. Yes, for Augusta standard,

it was not the golf course that we are used to seeing. Do you think that's why they moved the pen on 16? Do you think that could, that's probably the shadiest part of that green back there, right? That's a good theory. I don't know. I like to think it was public pressure. Freshers, it's like Randy, but yeah,

the non-traditional pen on, I never heard an explanation as to why they did. Maybe you like to shine some light on that, Randy. The blood is on your hands. They got back down. Yeah, I was super happy. I like it, I thought it was a cool pen. Yeah, thank you.

It's fine, it's not as good as the back left Sunday pen. Is that a funnel pen? Yeah, the idea. I will accept your back left funnel pin. I don't like it, but I will accept it, but you had to give me that shelf earlier in the week. You can't have three funnel pins. Oh, I agree.

I'm with you there. I wonder if with the greens as soft as they were, that that back left pin wasn't gonna play how it has anyways. Like, what ball wasn't gonna bound in the middle of it and then roll up that slope and come down, it was like gonna hit that bank and suck back too far. You would have had to almost land it on the back to the middle of it and then roll up that slope and come down. It was like going to hit that bank and like suck back too far. And you would have had to almost land it on the back.

Yeah. That would be my best reasoning as to why they didn't do that. So shout out to Carfer in the course for saying you can't spell funnel pin without fun discuss. Maybe a fantastic thing, which speed that birdied four holes in row then turned around and bogey 16. There's no chance he would have bogey to that. I feel like that proves that it's a good game.

He can't hit a proper goal. It's a good game. Which is fine. We want to see speed. He not only, yeah, he birdied all the mini golf holes. We'll have a 13 to 15. Cat stuck it on his little mini birdie barrage, which we got time on the cat today.

I don't even know if I'm ready to talk about the cat. That was wild. If I can say it, the 10 wasn't that bad. I felt nothing about it. As far as 10's going. It was a pretty good 10. I was like, If I can say it, the 10 wasn't that bad. I felt nothing about it. As far as 10's going. Yeah. It was a pretty good time. I was like, oh, yeah. I mean, you know, he's, he's just not sharp.

Like that's a commitment to the wrong way. Yeah. A commitment to the wrong way. That happened. But then when he could barely get out of the bunker, like I didn't think he was going to make it out of the bunker. When he was trying to. Oh, yeah. He's old. The bunker lie was brutal.

The second ball he hit, like that had enough to stay up there. It just spun so much. It came back in the water. It wasn't a, it wasn't a spieth meltdown. It wasn't like, just seeing the grit and determination to come back and do what he did after that. Like that's, that's the, the mark of, like the ultimate competitor for sure. I was inspired by that. I mean, you know, I'd love to use the cool running image for that. That's how I felt. Like he carried his rig across the finish line,

shot a prideful 76, did the interview afterward, made jokes about it. I mean, he just couldn't commit to the win. He couldn't, couldn't, couldn't, couldn't come into the wrong win. I shoved it a little bit. I just, oh, and I committed to the wrong win. Cause the win was off the left.

And then I took a lot more shots, Amanda. You know what I liked is that he was,, there's another version of the cat who's not jolly in Butler cabin talking about his Ted. You know, he was kind of yuckin' it up a little bit. That's great. A good question here, Nick Parnell. If you had to put money on one player to win a major next year, who is it? You guys are going to say Bryson.

Don't put words in my mouth. I know you. I will say Bryson. I was going to say Bryson. Don't put words in my mouth. Yeah, I know you're a dick. I will say Bryson. I was gonna say Bryson too. What's he what and Tori and yeah, I'll say Bryson. I'm gonna say JT. Really? Yeah.

Can I just add a curiosity like what makes you, why? I don't know. I just think he's so, he's so talented. He looks sleepy on the weekend. He's just got a harness in a little bit, right? Like, it seems like he's just, he's just sold all jazzed up and he just can't, like, you know, he's trying to go at everything.

He's trying to force the issue, force the issue. It's a little bit more patience. But that's gonna come with reps. I was gonna say, like, I'm not making, he's one of major and I'm definitely not making excuses for him, but I wonder, first of all, on the answer to this, as far as what the competitive landscape is right now versus 2017 versus 2014 versus 2011, how much it's evolved, but like, how freaking good you've got to be now to win, how do you not put pressure on yourself to be like freaking perfect?

Like, imagine going out and shooting like 18 under this week and having not one. How demoralizing that is, how hard it is to stay patient, it's something that DJs manage to do, but like, dude, this is nuts, how many freaking dudes that you could just throw out there that can win these things, and how good Rory is when he's on, how good JT. How good Ram is when he's on, how good Kepp is when he's on. I'm sure you could say that about pretty much every era, but right now it feels like, yeah dude, you gotta be.

A lot more depth. So good to win one. There's gotta be, it's gotta be so frustrating to see Dustin just like look like he is doing it, you know, without even trying, also. There's gotta be something to that as well. Like, that's gotta be so frustrating for everybody else. And I know they see a lot of the work

that he puts in behind the scenes and stuff, but man, he looks just effortless. I would love to hear that someone asks the cat that, or a detailed answer from the cat on that, and or Phil, like their careers have expanded like what, how many, 25 years plus, like can you truly speak to how much the game has changed in terms of depth and homogenization of the

skills and stuff like that. It seems like you can't win a major without having your absolute A game whereas I'm curious you know it seemed like Tiger 15 years ago could could win major with his, like, you know, B game. Even feel I feel like. I'm wondering if there's any player of the current younger crop. Like, I don't think anybody can win a major with their B game because there's always going to be a few other guys that, you know, are playing at the top of their abilities. I don't know.

That's an interesting question. And I'm obviously not, I can't answer. Going back to speed, I think that's why we felt, I feel like speed made you feel so alive, because it felt like he was winning with his, like the sum of it was so much bigger than the individual parts. Like speed, there was, I mean, sometimes it looked like

he was playing with his C minus game. But he was just, yeah, He was just like getting by. Yeah, he'd make a puddle or he'd, yeah, exactly. And that like doesn't feel like it's gonna fly even five years later, you know, at Augusta. Which, yeah, hearing it like that, I don't disagree at all, but hearing it like that makes me look inward a little bit.

I'm like, man, should I have maybe seen this coming? Yeah. A little bit. So I'm a scumbag for liking that, right? No, I love it. It truly makes you feel alive. like, man, should I have maybe seen this coming? Yeah. Am I a little bit? Am I an idiot? I'm a scumbag for liking that, right? No, I love it. It truly makes you feel alive, but you're totally right in that. Huh, yeah, maybe that's not the most sustainable thing, but then I look at like at Augusta,

that wasn't the C-minus game. I mean, that was just jet fuel, right? Like he was- Well, the last year that he was really- I mean, the year he won. Oh, the year he won was. It was the- That's a game every day. Every day has a strong.

Exactly. And well, and even just to follow the last point on that, like the US Open, I think, traditionally would give somebody the chance to, it's hard because you have to play really freaking well to win a US Open, but you can, you don't have to, you have to be flawless. You don't have to be flawless. But now with Bryce and showin' us this,

you're like, good luck, man. He just took a part wing foot. Yeah, that's a great question, Tully. Hopefully we can get somebody a fill or tiger or somebody with a lot of experience to talk about that. Cause I wanted to go look this up last night, just kind of, I think it speaks to something, like how many runners-ups somebody's had in a major.

Now, everyone knows the jack stat that he had 19 runner-ups in majors, but I think that speaks more to the era than, like he literally went 15 straight years without finishing worse than six that the British opened. Like it's just a totally different era. That, you know, Phil having 11 runner-ups in this era.

Rory and JT combined have one runner-up in majors. I think that just kind of speaks to like, Rory bagged four majors before he faced any real adversity in any of them. And maybe that's starting to even out a little bit. Keppka's got two runner-ups now, but like you, if you have six top twos in majors, you wouldn't expect the balance

to be heavily tilted towards winning a lot more than runner-ups now, but like you, if you have six top twos and majors, you wouldn't expect the balance to be heavily tilted towards winning a lot more than runner-ups. And so the dudes that have kind of a hollow runner-up record, I don't know exactly what it means, but. I think for some of those guys, it means they're either on or they're off too, right? Yeah, it's interesting, because maybe we're, like our major winners

is the trend kind of getting younger and younger. Like guys have a better chance to win before they've faced adversity or before they have scar tissue. Seems that way this year at least. That was kind of my thing with Bryson talking earlier this week was a lot easier to lean into all the, oh yeah, no, no,

I just put on 95 pounds. And now I totally changed my game. See, it's working great until it doesn't, and then you're like, oh shit. Okay, it's not going good this week. Should we put a bow on, Ryzen? On that second place thing, I mean, DJ's got five second place finishes,

so I think some of that too is just a commentary on those guys' games. But like JT and Rory have wildly divergent, like when they're on or they're off, versus like DJ's floor is higher than both those guys games. But like JT and Rory have wildly divergent, like when they're on or they're off versus like DJ's floor is higher than both those guys. Yeah, like I would look at DJ's two major wins, five runner ups and be like, he probably should have like three and a half of these. Whereas I look at JT's got, this is his second career major top five.

I would say like, in theory, he's pretty lucky to have nabbed one of these. He's not given himself the opportunities that say DJ has. And there's luck involved with those like Ernie, six runner-ups is that's a ton, man. I mean, obviously, Louis Ustazins like five swings away from being a five-time major champion. But I know. I mean, that's just, I mean, we,

majors are such a small sample size. We have four of them in a year. You're going to have weird anomalies like this, but I'm fascinated to kind of dig into some of those. He's really, really looking at going back to A game versus B game. Like I think you can look at Sungjae this week, and at least on the weekend and say like Sungjae didn't have his A game.

And he still finished his 1500. Like I think that's a statement from him that like I had no idea he chipped it that well. And maybe he was just on a mega heater today, but he was getting up and down from everywhere. It's fun to watch him drive the ball. Yeah. Well, I mean, it seems like he drove the ball really. It's boring.

He drove the ball super well all week. Like the most, the most, I mean, he had 13 fairways today. He had 11 fairways yesterday. But the big thing like greens, he hit 56% of his greens around 3, 56% of his greens, round four, which is subpar for him, at least on how he was playing. So to see him, like I think he had his B or B plus game

and finished five shots back at DJ, I think that kind of predicts some pretty serious a heady company for him here in the coming years. You guys want to put a bow on the Bryce and Dishambo's week? I know we talked about a lot on the live show. We've reacted several episodes on, you know, what we've seen out of him this week, anything more to add after Sunday putting on.

What do you make of his post-round interviews? I don't want to make fun of it just out of hand because I appreciate him, you know, at least giving us something, revealing, like if he's feeling dizzy or off, I, that's certainly more interesting than just spewing cliches, but on the other hand, I guess very bizarre.

I don't, I don't, wouldn't make of that. Brando kind of called him a bitch last night. I'm live from. In so many words, yeah. Do't want to make of that. Brando called him a bitch last night. I'm alive from. In so many words. Yeah. Do you want to elaborate on that? And you're just like, yo, like tiger, it's not about when you're feeling your best.

It's about when you're not feeling your best. And tiger didn't really, you know, ever, like he's like tiger showed up for how many hundred and how, you know, 140 straight cuts or whatever, like that. And like, I'm sure for at least 30 of those, he wasn't feeling great, you know, probably for a lot more based on everything he was doing off the course. But like, you know, like at some point, it's like, dude, like, you got to, you're not always going to feel good every week.

And you can't just build it up and talk all this smack. And then like, you know, say, oh, like, my tummy hurt this week. When things didn't go your way. and talk all this smack and then like, you know, say, oh, like my tummy hurt this week. When things didn't go your way. I'll direct this at more at Brando than in your response there, but like we're talking about Tiger who's maybe the most dramatic with injuries

and everything going on of any player ever. Like I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,. I really, even this week bending, like the back bending and stuff like that, I mean, I don't think, I don't think that's being dramatic. I don't think it is necessarily either, but it's not like Tiger has put up and shut up forever and you can't tell when he's injured, can't tell when he's not feeling great, like none of that. So I feel like,

but he doesn't soak around all week. Which is what Bryce and Dave do. Unless he's playing bad. He still doesn't soak around, though. In fairness, Bryce and Sson does. Unless he's playing bad. He still doesn't soul around, no. In fairness, Bryson sulks around when he's not feeling sick. That's true. When things don't go bad, Bryson's not tough. So that's a separate category, I think.

I have, you know, I always have trouble like estimating or guessing when people aren't feeling, you know, like always faking that or, oh, I'm sure it's not that serious. It's just impossible to do. Price doesn't really have a history of doing anything like that. He's never been whiny about how he's feeling or anything like that. Sometimes you just have weeks where like, yeah,

if you have a, yeah, if you have a diet where you're having seven protein shakes a day, maybe your body might not enjoy that for six straight months or whatever. I think that's the take is, well, two things. One, obviously it's a little awkward with COVID, and I know he took some tests, and but it's like, who knows, right? The veracity of the test or the incubation period or whatever. But I think the funnier thing

is like, well, exactly what you said, dude, you're having like seven to ten protein shakes a day that like, it's probably not great. It's not normal. The only thing I'll say to that, in fact, is, of course, none of us know, maybe he is feeling horrible, we don't know the severity of it. He looked so out of sorts this week. Like the misses, and I'll totally apologize for Bryson, I was of course very cool.

Riding so hard for it, he's still gonna pick him to win in April, but you, what I would all I would ask in return is that you will admit that did not look like the Bryson. We've seen the last four months. I agree. Like he was squirrely with every single club in the bag. So if he says like, yeah, I was feeling really fucking dizzy. Like, yeah, okay, maybe that makes some sense.

Sure. I also want you to acknowledge that the Greens books have something to do with it. I don't have enough information to acknowledge that. I would say I must, I, Dustin's a huge Greens book guy too. Lean more way towards that than I previously did. He didn't look comfortable in the Greens this week, but he didn't look comfortable with anything though,

to be fair. I remember this, like as a kid more so than now, but I remember having days in the fall where I just, everything felt weak. Your body just felt weak. Wethers changing. Pressures changing. So I totally get how you just don't feel

in touch with your body in a certain week, and I'm sure you put a lot of expectation and pressure on yourself to perform this week and when it wasn't going great, you just felt like shit. And so. That's what I'm saying is there's got to be something to the fact of, okay, I've just p-cocked around

for the last four or five months, and everything has gone my way pretty much. Whatever, I had some close call at Harding Park that didn't go his way, but still, everything's been validating of his thing until, like basically until he, like, rope hooked that ball on 11, you know, to start the tournament.

And that felt like a punch in the mouth, and then all of a sudden it was like, oh god, this everything looks super uncomfortable. And like some of this has to be, I don't know, you can't diagnose anything, but like some of it's gotta be just weird pressure, weird changes, weird expectations, all kinds of different stuff, right?

I mean, he's gone from being this like kind of, not kind of, he's gone from being this just dork to, okay, now all of a sudden everybody's taken this seriously, like Bryson, what do you think? What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? And like, as soon as that's not going your way, that's gotta be so such an awful feeling.

But at some point, like that's a lesson in that. Of course, well, of course, he brought it all on himself. Yes. Yes. Do you think he had the most focus on him coming into a master's of anybody like outside of Tiger? I thought I would make somebody say that I'm a Brockess. Absolutely.

Totally. Yeah. If that doesn't put you in a weird headspace. Like that might make you kind of dizzy. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think Bryson's mentally tough. I don't think heson's mentally tough.

I don't think he's, I mean, when it's going, like you said, when it's going his way, I mean, he can run downhill. But in his defense, I don't think he was like saying, I played bad because I'm not feeling great. I think it contributed, but I don't think he was, he didn't give off the vibe of like, well, Dustin's lucky to be winning

because I got to tummy ache this week, and it's not allowing me to perform. I think it yeah. And I guess where I'll net out in all of this is I was extremely bullish coming in this week did not you know it didn't make me take a step back about the hashtag process. I still think when he gets it dialed in like it's the ends are going to justify the means. For sure. I think there was enough that we saw on some of what he hit

in the 13, what he hit in the 15, what he hit into two that like when it's working, you can see where the 26th under par might come into play. Now, having said that, he got beat by Bernard Longer. Yes, this week, which is the oldest player to ever make the cut. Which is awesome, yet has might have set us back with a distance debate like another.

See? He's good. There's no climate change, it's snowing out. So, I'm going back to Bryson though. I think too, it's everything for him and his mind is predicated upon like everything going perfectly. Everything, like when you add variables into the mix and into, you know, whatever the equation is, he doesn't know how to solve for those variables.

Which is frustrating, because we're talking about organic matter here. And it seems like he would be able to solve for that. If anyone can solve for it, it seems like it'd be him. Yeah, I'm with you. I still just think he's gonna have total tournaments where he's not able to solve for those variables and it's gonna go like this.

And honestly, scraping out a T34 is not the end of the world for him with that with his poorly as he played. That's truly truly as bad as it can go, right? For him? Yeah. I don't see how it could get you. Like luck was. It's got any worse. Yeah, yeah, exactly. You guys need to apologize for the lost ball. That was bullshit. That was sweet. I know. That's that's a rub of the green straight up. When he said, wait, so if I can't find it, that's a lost ball. That was incredible. Which he was truly by every definition, Bryson, yes. Yes, but he was close to being on to something

there. If there was abnormal turf condition, if there was any sitting water there, he could have got away with a drop. If there was any sitting casual water there, that they could have all agreed it went in that area, that I forget what the definition of it is, but he could have taken a drop. So he was on to something. I think it would have been a stretch to prove that it went in right there though. It was a stretch, but that's what he's trying to get at. It's like, if this muddy ass area is casual water and we can all agree it went into it, he could have got a drop.

I don't know. You're always on this block. It's shocking to me that they find every single ball that lands left of 13. Yeah, and they didn't find that one on three. I feel like conspiracy. But I'm wondering if left of 13 is not nearly as thick as the TV makes it look.

Or maybe there's just more volunteers, maybe that was just like a weird, they found a hole in the zone defense there, maybe. No one ever loses a ball back there. Right. I don't understand that. maybe the floor of it is very Find it but it's it blows my mind. I really could Sergio like won the masters because they found his right Michael's been hidden from there for

Fill put a bench in over there All right, what are what else are we Let's just run down the board here. Sure. All right, say like fluke or do you think this is to use DJs where it pour tens? You know, like for tele. Kinda see this as. He's becoming, like he's becoming a... I can see you can't ignore the length. Yeah.

Yeah. And like when he's on, he's on, right? It seems like he's either on or he's... Can I be honest? I have absolutely no idea. I'm looking up his results. He's a guy with a ton of precision. So I don't know. It's like a shotgun blast.

It almost feels a little like diet brison, right? Where it's like, if brison strategy is just hit it as far as you can, like that's gonna work a lot more than it's not going to. And maybe there's some whiffs of that. But that's just me probably not being super, super familiar with his game, I guess. Coverage take, maybe related to that, but I felt like they were just kind of picking him up

at random spots. Like I got real no idea for how he played that golf course or his flow of round. It was just kind of like, well, for Telly's doing something crazy over here now, we got to get to that one. Now he's doing something crazy. Like I really couldn't. Out of context for Telly's doing something crazy over here now, we gotta get to that one. Now he's doing something crazy. I really couldn't.

Out of context for Telly. Yeah, I couldn't really think the picture there. No top 10 since the 2019 Safeway Open before this. Yeah. I couldn't say this. CT Pan, Master's Rookie, T7, 7066, 7468. Again, man, it's all blank. He's just bullying him.

He had to wait, he did have to wait 19 months for to get his master start. He was the one that won the two. Oh, that's all for each character. Yeah, we got any back in, right? Yeah, back in with a T12 and good for head ties. So kept getting Rom or back in for next year too. All right, we haven't talked Rom yet.

Is this a good week for Ram or is this a disappointment? Disappointment for sure. I'm just pointing. Definitely. You're waiting for me. I listen to you. You know what a major? I certainly agree.

I mean, does he just need more reps? Just a little bit more experience under the gun. Like what? He's the controls and motions a little bit better. He's doing so much better with that. You know, does he that good? Does he maybe sting? He does.

Just such a web Simpson week. Well, I'm back on the rom. Yeah, that's a good question, Randy. I don't really know what, it's gotta be just hard to win. I think it's hard to win and it just takes a long time, right? Like, should anything else be the lesson

from the Dustin Johnson Master's victory, other than like, you're gonna put yourself in contention a ton and they're not gonna all go your way. So just be patient. Rom hit six fairways yesterday on Saturday. Like, that's not very good either. That's not very good. Rom is born in 1994.

Yeah. What about his adventure on eight? Oh, that was yesterday. Among the highlights of the week for 1994. Yeah. Wild. What about his adventure on eight? Oh, that was yesterday. It was among the highlights of the week for me. Absolutely. That's really him, truly. Vasters, where I felt like we didn't have everybody highlights. That was that, that truly sticks out.

Maybe the defining shot of the week. Brahms got five PGA tour wins now, but only one top three finish in majors, three top fives in majors in 17 of them that he's played. So how old is the whole 26 pretty hollow major record? Well, he or JT who are you more bullish on? Because I feel like they to me, JT's already got a major, which is a huge distinguishing factor, I guess, but you're a part, you know, what do you feel better about? I don't know. I would say JT if I had, or I'm sorry, I would say Ram. You're a part, you know, who do you feel better about?

I don't know. I would say JT, or I'm sorry, I would say Ram, if I had a gun in my head on that one, just JT's looked a little dicey, man, on some of these weekends, it's been weird to watch. It's like he doesn't wanna play discipline golf, if that makes sense. Yeah, I don't know how to. Maybe that's super unfair from my end, but. I don't know how to. Maybe that's super unfair from my end, but.

I don't know how to break it down. It's jarring and of course it's just a much, much smaller sample size, but it's weird how different you feel with JT holding a two-shot lead or around the lead at a normal PJ Tor event versus at a major. It feels like we've seen drastically different guys. You guys are talking about a JT now.

Like I'm going back. I'm, you know, DJ. It was just a weird thing today. I know, I know. But there's some, there's some it with JT or I feel like JT has it. I think he's got more it than ROM in my opinion, but, you know, I don't know. It, the errors seem, I hate saying unforced errors because at this level with that kind of conditions, I guess pretty much everything is somewhat

of an unforced error, but he just has like a little bit of speed in him of like, you bogey number two today when you were like someone in the right, whoa, come on, like what is that? But you're still playing good. It's not like you collapse. It's just a couple shots that like, I always say like the toughest people to go up against

in matches are just ones that don't let you around. They're gonna hit it in the right spot, they're gonna get it in the right spot, they're gonna hit the right spot and just way too often he hits it very much not in the right spot. I guess you could probably say the same for Ram, but I don't know.

It's a good question I wish I had the answer I think with. Some of them may come down to the... A few more years of data we'll have. A long time we'll tell. JT's got a long question. I wish I had the answer, I think, with... Do more years of data. We'll have a lot of time. We'll tell. JT's got a long swing. Yeah. Right?

And if long, like fast swing, where's like, I mean, DJ's got a long swing, but DJ's seemingly more, you know, smoother tempo, more, or control. But it doesn't, yeah, it doesn't really usually seem. This week did not seem like he lost his swing at any moment. No. You know, even the, you know, the four bogies in the back nine yesterday were, you know, just not... How many should have played the fade in the 15?

Obviously, straight through the gap and the trees are from according to Fowdo. But I don't know, time will tell. It's hard to be patient. It's super hard, but we gotta do it. We got a group of T10, Simpson, Conor's and Reed, I fully expect, use golf facts to lash out at some point this week, which he's been awfully quiet this weekend.

Usgolf facts, of course, declaring that this was not going to be a true major without fans. Yeah. I mean, shout out to Conners too. T10 after our first round 74 is a good effort. And it's nice You know web just quietly kind of goes about it Getting the most out of his talent. Yeah

T13 was leash Matsuyama not an answer tough day for Abe. Yeah, you know what I see that I think now is truly the I don't know if I saw now had one shot on coverage. I Would lobby Randy If you were getting gonna death panel somebody, we gotta start looking at Deckie. That's a great, yeah, that's a very good point. I don't wanna bring that up.

You know, I feel like I need to bring that up in that. Dude, come on man, come on, where is it? His putting might just be shitty enough where, you know, I would hate to do that to somebody. Might be shitty enough, he's never made a pie. He's 28, he turns 29 in February. Like, yeah, give him another year. I would say putting, his putting already makes a terminal case.

Like I just be piling on. And the shit that he wears, Mr. Vista, there's nothing we can do. I mean, the numbers are, we, we, we, how he gets a pass on it from like, it's unreal. And let's just make him as comfortable. They always say what he comes on the screen, like he's been working really hard on this, like the fundamentals get worse with this potting. I am far from a technique expert, but that is not how you're supposed to put so uncomfortable to work. Yeah. So yeah, we're I think we're ready to move on from the techie air.

How much do you think those guys made this week? They finished tied for 13th? Tied for 13th. They made 100,000, 178,000. 241,000. That is sick. The also in that group never told a lie. I want to say a tough day. I think as as Tron astutely pointed out on Twitter, haven't seen an Abraham Also in that group, never told a lie, I want to say, tough day. I think as Tron astutely pointed out on Twitter, haven't seen an Abraham test into that way in many, many, many years. I think he had 256 in a number 11.

Like, that's tough. It's gonna be tough to keep that stuff. He had a pretty good shot. I know, it's just, man, you're putting a lot of pressure in yourself all day. That's the ultimate junior golf. I mean, watch Dustin, see what he's doing? Try to maybe be more like that.

It's like watching a really world-class version of your friend Wilgrimer. Yeah. It's like, yeah man, everything's got to go exactly perfect for me to even, I got to make everything on the greens and all that. Leish so, so stoked to see him out of the wilderness. Yeah. No doubt it was a dark place. It was like not long ago, just a couple months ago. Three weeks ago.

Yeah, it's cool to see it click for him. Yeah, I mean, that got something that just Augusta does to the people that really like that golf course. You can show up with your golf game, not totally there and you can channel something there. I mean, there's something to lang or making the cut, Larry Meyers, Mike Weir, those guys playing that golf course periodically very well. That, you know, like obviously the course still favors guys that hit it long, but it doesn't completely eliminate the shorter hitters from being able to, you know, play it well. Not at least the shorter hitter I'm just saying, speaking to the other guys.

I've got a big, big disappointment from the weekend. Oh, hit me. Can't lay. Oh, God. Very much so. He started out as eight under through two rounds and then he shot 73-72 on the weekend. I mean, I occurred, I made him one of my picks.

I switched to picking him. I'm the cooler. Do you have any idea how hard it was this year to have your major picks be Bryson Bryson in DJ and go over three? That's tough. Truly, truly a special year. That's inspiring stuff.

I must say I did pick DJ last night to win, so. Good stuff, that's cool. That is cool. Would you get a little nervous after that? About five. I got a DJ last night to win. So good stuff. That's cool. That is cool. Would you get a little nervous after that five? I got a Bogey five. I came in with three run, a three run league, gave up two home runs, and then straight to the bases loaded to get the save. And the last guy lined out hard.

And the short stop allowed out. I want to give a shout out to Chez. Yeah, Neil, that was Neil's request. out to Chez. Yeah, Neil, top 30. That was Neil's request. We tell Chez's story. 71, 72, 72, 70, minus three overall. Just snuck inside the top 30, tied with one Richard flower. Rick, this is a question from Mike Stone on Twitter, not that Mike Stone, a different

Mike Stone on Twitter, not that Mike Stone. A different Mike Stone. Favorite one week in April. Although big week for Mike Stone. Favorite synonym for Mudball this week. I think that's a runaway. Gotta be organic matter, right? Yeah. Some earth on it, though, was like really set it, set it growing downhill.

They finally did say mud. But they never said mudball. I think they just threw their heads up after a while. Yeah, that's right guys, nothing we can do about this. Well, Trevor Oomans saying, the patron observation stands like, like what? They have a year.

I know, God, they've put so much effort into like trying to appease. I feel like they, Gus, it's so weird. DJ and I were talking about the other night. I feel like they kind of amped up the ball washing and she's dickiness, like year every year. Like it's always been there,

but there's more quantity of it now. So that's what I would think too, is that there's just a little, we're living in the age of content, right? So I think it's just a volume game at this point, whereas normally any Augusta stuff was kind of mostly coming from the telecast, a couple like, you know, reporters and stuff, but now it's just everybody's got, it's just, it's a content day loose.

So I feel like you get so much more Augusta ball washing because of that. And how fun is it with the juxtaposition now? And I don't mean to trivialize it, but with what they did with Lee Elder and Payne College, there were some articles about, like, Augusta is maybe the most progressive body in golf, and then you flip on the telecast and the announcers, well, yeah, they aren't allowed to say this word. They have to call it this. They have to say that it's like, progress is slow, right?

Which is it, right? How bad does that make the USGA look? That's, yeah. Anybody who's the USGA look? That's yeah. Anybody who's uttered that for? That's a great point. A gust that might be the most progressive out letting off other allot should be. I think that's a scam.

That's the biggest damn nation of the sport at golf. Yeah, seriously. Which to your point, Tron, I think separating out cheese dickiness and ball washing is important. Cause like, I don't think a gust of like one to find the terms there I mean there's cheese dickiness from Augusta out the ass right I mean it's everything that goes with it but that's people the the baller cabin ceremony personify the ball washing comes from the

outside parties that are willing to play ball with that which like so to speak the cheese dickiness that comes with from Augusta, like I get that, I mean, but that even felt more amped up this year, where for sure, all the, we miss you guys and then the painting the curb or the cutting the grass with scissors or which it was always gonna be that I get it. I mean, that's like a salute to craftsmanship or whatever they want to call it and all that, but it just feels like, like before it was too cute, now it's like way, way, way too cute. I also, yeah, not to make a sweeping take, but please all I hear is.

In the hashtag these COVID times, it's a little hard to take like, Augusta National seriously. You know what I mean? It's like dude, look around for the last fucking eight months what's been going on. Like I don't care what you guys have to say. I really, I just, I don't have a capacity for it.

Like, I'm worn out, man. I don't have the normal capacity to take on a gust. And I feel like they've maybe even kept it at a similar level. Which, all right. Dude, read the room a little bit, guys. The Lee Elder thing, and I'm surprised. That was great. I've separated that.

Yes, but to that, they are very much celebrating themselves on this. But like, let's rewind and that we're celebrating that this was the first black guy that was able to play in the masters in 1975. I need some admitting of wrongdoing to celebrate this, right? I wasn't born much longer after that. Right. That's almost in my lifetime. And they don't seem to like your old, but I'm an old. This is like, man, yeah, we scored two own goals on ourselves.

And then we went and scored the head as the first half. Not gonna lie. And then we went and scored another goal and the other end. I were still losing this battle. Not only that too, where like you go in a boat with Cabin and there's still a picture of raging racist dickhead Clifford Roberts up on the wall right there. It's like, all right, cool. It still feels a little hollow, guys. Yeah, which again, when people are saying

that's your most progressive body in the sport, is if I were at the USGA, I'd really be soul searching. Wow, how did that narrative come to be what if what if we It's because it's because Augusta doesn't make their volunteers pay Why would we say is it accurate though? I mean I Don't pretend to know the scope. I do say I mean did the Augusta National women's Manager, not the Latin America and the Asia Pacific and like they've done it like they're doing some great shit I don't want to yes, you know totally after

Many many years of being pressured into doing this I know we joke about this all the time But it does get lost like how truly how much money the PJ tour injects into different kinds of charitable organizations as well like That's not a small thing the first first T, as much as you want to, you know, point fingers at it or find faults with it, I mean, is we're talking like hundreds of millions of dollars that the PJ Tours has pumped into that thing. So that's, I'm saying, I don't know the full scope

of Augusta's charitable giveings, but is this scholarship and honorably, I'll put it on par with right? That's what I would say. I would say not. I would struggle. I'm sure that their charitable elements are involved. I think Augustus really get a PR, you know. Yes.

And they're good at, they have a lot of people willing to tell the story of like, hey, you know, I don't know. There's a shit. You just talk to a non-Golfer that funded off is like keeping a whole golf program of float. Right. Whale has a full time job. Whale has a full time, like has nothing to do with professional golf, except he just enjoys it.

And like he's doing arguably like that's, you can say his name. Okay. Yeah, I mean, you just talked to Steph Curry, which I think will be coming out next week. Steph and Curry. Yes. Okay. Full government. Mr. Curry. No, you, I mean, you just talked to Steph Curry, which I think will be coming out next week. Steph and Curry. Yes. Okay.

Full government. Mr. Curry. No, I just mean like, God, he just funded the whole Howard golf men, men's golf team for what, eight years or whatever it is. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Which is absurd. Yeah, he's not involved in golf in any way.

And so yeah. Yeah, and I don't want to trivialize what a gust of dick. Cause I don't, I don't think that's a good look. But yeah, just like bringing some perspective to maybe. I will say, I do have hope over the next few years that I think the riddler, Fred Ridley is a far better messenger and spokesperson for the club than like Billy Payne. Who's a fucking... Let's go say Billy Payne has had the, you know, the balls are the audacity to say what he said about Tiger

and they've never had any inward reflection to say, like we've made these mistakes in the past. Yes. Like our friend knows that that's the worst. Our hero did not live up to his blah, blah, blah. He was like, guys, come on here. And I'm guessing at an organization like a Gus National, it's almost a little similar

to again, to bring up the PGA tour. Like, there was a lot of institutional Tim Fincham stuff that can't change until you have a new leader, right? Like, even though everybody knows it needs to change, everybody wants it to change. Yaddy, yaddy, yaddy. And I think, you know, say what you will about Jay Monahan, but like, he's been instrumental in doing a ton of different things.

Like talk to any player out of the PJ Tour, and we joke about this all the time, I've never heard anybody say a bad word about Jay, and I think he's been so much more progressive than that organization has ever had. And I think Ridley's the same way, but the difference is, or not the difference, the similarities are,

Jay's also not gonna go in on day one and be like, here's all the things we fucked up. Like we really need to change this, this, and this, it's like, dude, you're not gonna ever speak ill of any of these misters that came before you, but like, you've gotta slowly start changing it, and I think that's what we're seeing with Ridley. I think Ridley's doing that a hell of a lot more

quickly than one hand. And it's got a lot smaller scope. For sure. Again, I celebrate the movement that they currently have ongoing. It would be easier to praise it if it came with some of that. Even if it's unrealistic. It came with just an ounce of humility or humbleness. Yeah.

And like going back to the same thing. I hate to compare that to just because I know Jay has to report back to, you know, 100 and however many players and they run the show. You know, player on player on the player on the organization. Um, what else? What if we not cover to more coverage coverage? Lance Barrel. Do you want to, do you want to give him a a eulogy? Well I thought I thought at first that that that

Nance was coming at us. I did too. I had to kind of double take so easy just to snipe these people from social media. Working so hard. I just want to say this to Tron. They're working so hard, and they don't even know what a hard camera is. Now, he said, I think it's one of the greatest things I've ever seen from Dustin Johnson right there. He gets so many people that question what's inside players' hearts. So easy these days to post a thought or a comment on some site or social media.

People feel good about themselves for trying to tear these talented people who work so hard and the fire that's inside of him. You just saw it right there. Those are a reflection of how much it meant and how hard he worked for it. Do people do that to Dustin? I don't think so.

There's that a strong man. I feel like that's the real. Dude, there is a huge amount of just people on Twitter that are those people that just harass people for perfect bad. Of course. I don't think he's talking about media members. I don't think he's talking about, you know, anyone with any real intelligence, but there's a ton of people that sit at home

that maybe watch not that much golf and just rip on people. I think the two dust and things I hear are like cocaine, and he's dumb. Which, first of all, cocaine thing is, listen, that's very warranted. He was literally suspended multiple times for Jetsky related to his sex.

I was gonna say. But also, like, the next, you know, suspended multiple times for for Jetsky related. It's not the same. But also like also like don't like like the next you know four or five months like don't tweeted us like oh what's going to be on the champion's dinner menu like cocaine. It's not fine. It's not funny right. But also I do think Nancy was was saying like like fuck you TC to like, you know, but then like Barrow I like to think he was. I really like to think the one the one T shot we said it last night on the pod

sitting in the night the one T shot they showed all day on 18 that didn't have pro tracer was Dustin's. It's like what the fuck man in their defense. They also missed his approach and his walk coming up 18. So it was not just how it is. It was not a short, it was not. Coming up 18 in his walk from 11 to 12 T. Like they went to commercial at some of those in opportune times and then had weird dead space

to fill it other times. They did the the the Fowdo remembrance of his 30th anniversary of his playoff against Raymond Floyd. And then we're gonna get the whole thing all over again in April because it's gonna be the 25th anniversary of 1996. And then we're gonna almost be starting right back up with 30th anniversary. It's so self, it's just so, like they're giving the self

a hand job, constantly. It comes with just a complete lack of respect for the viewer, because I talked about this before when I rewatched the 96 Masters and they followed Norman coming from 11 green to 12T zoomed in on his face, talked about it, gave different perspective. What's going on in his head?

You gotta think about this shot, blah, blah. They went to commercial between 11 green and 12T, come back and dust and like hits the green. There's no, you can't appreciate how great the shot was without setting it up, without building the drama, without like the suspense moving to the edge of the couch. Like, you lose people when you go to commercial. You lose the flow and like to do it in that moment

was just like, okay, I mean, I'm not surprised at all. Yeah. It's just but the complete lack of respect. I've lost my energy to get upset about it because it just doesn't surprise me anymore. To miss his walk coming up 18, I know there's no patrons there. But like, are you, it's just a,

it's a complete, it's a parody of itself at this point. Like, is a complete joke. I'm not mad, you're mad. I'm not mad. I'm not mad. I'm calling you a man. I'm not mad. I'm not mad.

Like, it's, like, was I surprised? 100%. That was percent that would be on me about surprise There were several points today were I felt like I was watching a scripted video game to where at one point Abe answered, you know, missed a putt for par for bogey and I Said it five seconds ahead of time. You know what? He's a talented young player. We're gonna see him again and sure enough I think in 11 I was like, and he's just, you know, we'll see him again in the masters.

He's a talented young lad. Or something. Can I balance the scales a little bit? The migrared thing was phenomenal. That's not CBS. I know, but everybody's gonna... Everybody's gonna be average. Everybody's gonna lump it together though, I think.

All right, so before we get to that, I think that some of the drone shots were awesome. I didn't understand why they, why we saw so many drone shots from behind, like from like over the par three course looking back at whatever cabin that is there. It just didn't really, yeah. We're Mr. Roberts, off to himself.

I'm just seeing people forget. A couple of times I thought you were flying the drone. It was like, that was like, that was like, that was like a creative one I think. That was like, semi hard care. I was like, damn TC might be flying that thing. But even that one, like that one didn't add anything. The one super, super cool one was the one behind 15.

That was sick. Awesome. I thought the drone really added a whole, the best usage of drones that's been happening in the tournament. And I don't know how they're doing it, because I didn't hear one, on a silent proper, didn't hear a buzz the whole time. I mean, I don't know if there's, you know, stealth unmanned aircrafts, predator drones.

Predator drones. They're flying. They didn't have to use the function which was built into it, which just takes out unwanted leaders out of off the leaderboard. Those are defense contractors. But no, that was the best views, looks, contours, aside from the weird angle on nine, which didn't kind of ruin the contour of that green. It was the best look at August.

I think we've ever seen side angles on chips that we'd never seen of some of the mounds they had to deal with. 17. All that, eight, they did an awesome job with that. I mean, it was, that's sweet. That's what defines that golf course and they brought that to life better. I mean, I'm sure that back of fans. 14, they did a great job with that one.

That's one that you don't really see at all. This goes back to my take. I don't know if I actually said this on the potter just while we were sitting downstairs. I feel like fans slash patrons should be allowed Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday during the practice rounds, not allowed Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and then allowed back in on Sunday. Yeah, I heard that too.

Yeah, it was horrible. Then I think you'd satisfy everybody. I always would do for the record. You'd have to total compromise. You'd get all these great angles, but then you'd also get the roars on Sunday. Not even the roars. You'd get, like the pretenders would get absolutely

eviscerated by the, when the fans come back in on Sunday. It'd be great. Yeah, the one on eight, I think. Just think about it. I thought about it. I thought about it. On cam shot. That was the one with the whole shit.

That was fantastic. I remember we walked that course, you couldn't get, like, a view, a standing view of eight because of how big those mounds are. You absolutely couldn't see the whole or anything on that, which was some. You need to be in the patron observation stage. Sorry.

You get a much better view. Cam shot there too, like this. His second shot and there was so close to being really, really good. I mean, he missed his spot by a foot and a half. But yeah, the online coverage was the best it's ever been. It was so freaking cool. And it was so freaking cool.

And it was so seamless, like no boot up time, and no like, that is a huge value. Yeah, it was awesome. It was awesome. And the my group thing, I know, it's not, that's not how you're gonna watch live golf, especially for whatever reason you're poisoning yourself on Twitter all day, and you're trying to be up to the moment

like all of us are. But it's a great way to catch up if you're out running errands and you're trying to be up to the moment like all of us are. But it's a great way to catch up if you're out running errands and you're like, how did, you know, how did JT get to 400 like fire up JT and just watch all of the shots in a row. It was phenomenal. If I can make a shout out or a suggestion to the PJ tour live folks, it would be start the coverage like that. And when it starts up, whatever, say PJ Tor live is brought to you by FedEx and put a graphic up there while you're showing play,

rather than every time I boot it up, if I have to exit the window for whatever reason and come back into it, I gotta watch the same thing again. I'm generating a hell of a lot more goodwill towards FedEx. 100%. Like I will give a free FedEx cup shout out every time that happens,

but like that gets people in and out. I guess not, you don't want people out, but like that brings you right back in, that barrier to get in is so small. And that sounds petty and minuscule, but it is vital to the viewing experience. Offering up all the highlights, the way they did,

instead of offering you highlights instead of shot tracker, right off the top, on the app, or on the website was awesome. Where like, well, that was the other cool thing about the migrapting too is when your favorite players run out they're still rolling in like oh by the way I want to make sure you weren't going to miss this one. This was really cool. This guy hold this bunker shot or this leader did this. It was awesome. And the fact that they do this, I know it's a once a year tournament but also the fact that they've like generated this software or whatever their algorithms are.

All this technology that's gone towards this, and the PGA tour, like this is what they do 52 weeks a year, and they can't do anything remotely close to this. I thought about that, and I wonder if I can't figure out if that works as a positive for the tour or a negative. It's both. Having to pick it up and move it. Yeah, so I'm with you there. I still want the my shot thing to be,

look, if I want to watch Max Homa walk between shots, I want to be able to do that. Like somebody is shooting these things, like let me have an option where I'm, I don't want to catch up his shots on, you know, on delay. Like let me have a camera going where I'm just like following him around. That would be like the true value of it, I would think.

Yeah, that's tough. That's a lot of cameras. It is. You can go dark in between, but every one of his shots is being filmed, right? So that's what I mean is, when you do go dark in between, that would be a cluster fuck.

Right, I would think. That would be jittery. The guy walking all the way down. Sure, regardless of that, you get to watch every shot live, which you couldn't even do that with the leaders today, which that was weird. First couple holes, which that sucks. Like I, if I wanted the timing was bizarre, wouldn't they?

Yeah, they just started when the leaders go off, right? Yeah, that was a little confusing. But that's a tradition unlike any other. They're getting, it seems like we're just inching more and more towards that, you know, a full round is going to be going to be viewable. I'm sure pandemic had something to do with it because they eventually got into where you actually watch the leaders tee off on Sunday. But this one.

I would say in this regard, they are the most progressive force in golf. Like they're forcing, you know, and I know the tour runs in a massive loss also. Oh, for sure. And I'm sure, you know, IBM's basically fronting everything for this, but I'm sure also like, you know, I want to give the tour the benefit of the doubt.

It sounded like they had something like this cooked up for the players, but, but even the tour, like, you know, I want to give them tour the benefit of the doubt. It sounded like they had something like this cooked up for the players, but even the tour, like there's no way it's going to be as clean and uncluttered as this. Like they're going to make us work for it and they're going to throw all sorts of really poorly produced commercials in front of stuff. It's going to be really interesting to see what happens with,

I know we have said this a bunch, but it'd be interesting to see what happens with the gambling stuff. We have all these alternate feeds in the telecast and how are the betting, like all these live betting lines gonna move and all that stuff. I'm not curious how it goes. We talked about that a little bit with like CBS

where like when they're showing stuff on tape delay a lot and like how, you know, how does that work with betting? Which I guess it would, yeah, I don't know. I guess it would just all run off the data feeds, right? So then it's kind of, the onus is on the better, I guess, to find the most up-to-date information before you bet whether someone's gonna hit the green or not. Sounds like an arbitrage opportunity.

He says, yeah. I wanna give a shout out to the camera men that were overheard very frequently on a lot of those clips. When DJ hit that shot and the two was, oh, fuck, you already hit. I'd like to just give a big shout out to the F word, because it was all over the live streaming.

But I think everyone pictures everyone in any kind of position of power in any way is like, you know, a puppet controlling the strings like a gust of like complete geniuses just absolutely spread out everywhere and every single thing has been thought of. And then you hear some of the people over, is that Fitzpatrick that just hit who just hit that one?

And to hear some of that was actually really, really refreshing. But what's next? What do we leave on the table here? Do we have to pick the April winner? All right, my pick is in. The pick is locked. The big golfer. I'm going with Dustin back to back. I'll take Rory at this point.

I'm probably going to go. Despite the fact that he's point. I'm probably gonna go. Despite the fact that he's dead. Yeah, which is interesting. Which is very interesting. I haven't thought through all of that yet, but yeah. I'm gonna go big golfer, I think. Hell yeah. That's right, you guys.

Welcome. I think I said he's gonna win one of the next two, so I gotta go with him for that one. The only other thing speaking of betting, Randy, I was a little disappointed. I trust your model implicitly, which is who it's a home game for. And now all we're hearing on the weekend is how close Dustin Johnson grew up to a Gus and National. Well, what I want to tell you is this, and I'm just very curious how you didn't

pick that up. Well, and that's, there's good news and bad news. And the bad news is, as a data man, myself, I got to be better. The good news is the data itself is beautiful. It's absolutely the home game factor proves once again. It is the strongest force in golf. The mistake was mine. And to air is to be human human and so that's on me.

I got to be better. Very interested with we're going to see Ile this week. The modell might be completely in my glitch out of all with that home game. I'm calling all my people. I got to make sure Harris is still flushing them all. There's a lock on on this week. It's kind of Bizarro Hilton head week. Yeah. That's very, very, very similar. I'm curious to see. I know a doubt will see at all if or much if if at all on on TV, but are playing the new plantation course again. And then you know, my guy Tyler Duncan on my Fred X Cup team's defending. I think it's the first time that you know, anybody on a Fred X cup has defended.

I don't think Lantzo Griffin accurate at all. Defended Adam Wong, Cameron Champ. That's a very, very, very bad take. Yeah, listen. Listen. No, like, do you wanna apologize for that take? Well, they're still on the team. I guess Lantzo is. Yeah.

But it doesn't count because Lantzo is like, it was a different question. Okay, that makes sense too. I just wanna give a shout to this this tweet from at platinum poly He's a paraphrasing. Dottie. It's downwind Nick the clouds up there moving left to right Dottie the grass I threw up in the air moved forward And platinum piece says nicks sucks All right, I think that brings it to a rap. That's close to five hours of podcasting,

I think more than that actually for us this week. That's all the takes I got. That's all the masters takes I got. Thank you to Elijah Craig. Thank you to Elijah Craig. Thank you to everyone that tuned into the live shows, the pods, interacted on Twitter, and had a fun, weird November masters

that definitely didn't feel like the real thing, but it was better than no masters. I think we can definitively set. Shout out to the AP. Well, that one, yeah, as well. thing, but it was better than no masters. I think we can definitively shut up to the AP. Well, that one, yeah, as well. Cheers, thank you for tuning in. Greg home. It's a good right club. Be the right club today.

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