No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 391: Sentry TOC Recap

Episode Date: January 11, 2021

We recap an eventful week in golf, including Harris English flushing away the field, JT's slur and reaction, Part I of the HBO Tiger documentary, the PGA Championship moving, WGC Mexico moving, Mike Whan on the move, and so much more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Expect anything. Expect anything. Expect anything. Expect anything. Expect anything. Expect anything. Expect anything. Expect anything. Better than most. Better than most. or what? DJ Pies here to my left. Greetings. How are you guys? Tron Carter is here. Good evening. Big Randall is here. Hey, Saul, I am right across the table from you. How are we looking, Big Randy?

Oh, good. Worried about the bedtime tonight, though. We are very, Randy made the official transition to being a full-time media member today when he was rooting for a hair extinguisher to make the putt on 18 so it didn't go to a playoff. That's how you know you're a media member when you're begging for something not to go to a playoff.

It was a true eagle or par situation. I don't care, I don't care which one. Our friends at Callaway excited to announce Tyler McCumber joining their tour staff, like ROM, which you probably noticed this week, he's gonna be wearing Travis Matthew Gear and Quater Shoes. Sounds like he's probably gonna be wearing the Quater Ringer on tour and the Money Maker

in the casual rounds. I forget which one I like, which one's the more formal looking one. You like the Money Maker? I'm the Money Maker, okay. See, that seems very much on brand. In the golf bag, he's got the lower spin version of a prototype driver that we're gonna be talking

plenty about when the time comes, I'm sure. Maverick Fairway Woods, Apex Muscleback, Iarns, Jaws, MD5, Wedges, Chromesoft, X Golfball. It sounds like he's still trying to finalize the putter. I don't know, TC, if you, as the certified master fitter in the group, if you have any plans to get with them here in Jacks. I'm keeping my finger on the pulse. Okay.

He's a bold being guy here in Jacks. The situation is being monitored. Yeah. So we are looking forward to seeing Tyler get his year started. And we've got to get him over here for a little pod or something. Oh, maybe for the second time. For the second time. Yeah.

He taped a, I don't know, semi-infamous trap draw, you know, right here in the kill. And it's very kill. It's very kill. Yeah, no, sir, I think great addition to the squad. Absolutely. We're very excited about that. So shout out to Tyler, shout out to our friends at Calaway. Let's start with the century tournament of champions.

And then we have about 50 other topics, I think, to get through. First of all, let me just throw it right over to Big Randy. Just want to just take a second. There's two words on everybody's mind and nobody's going to say them. They're pleased. Here's English is flushing the ball, folks. I don't know if it was flushing it or flushing the ball.

You're sorry. He's flushing it. Absolutely. I amushing the ball, folks. I don't know if it was flushing it or flushing the ball. You're sorry. He's flushing it. Absolutely. I am just the messenger though. I want to defer all credit to you. You got sources and see how clearly your sources were right. It's a cultivated network of sources. I've worked doggedly to bring them together

and to report this news to everybody out there. So they're the real heroes. I'm merely the vessel by which that information flows. Is there an asterisk though? No, TC of course there is. It's the century tournament of mostly champions. I'm like, of course there's an asterisk. Congratulations on being the first person ever

to end a winning drought at the century tournament champions. A seven year drought in the left. Although as DJ mentioned, as we were preparing for this, they said not to sleep on his QBE shootout. It's three QBE shootout wins in the last seven years. Well, they tied. According to the only time. Yeah, there was a little bit of talk on that in the golf central pregame show.

You know, I know it's not a win, but you know, who knows? It could be, it could be coming with some momentum. You get that little taste in your mouth. I was like, oh, or it could be the fact that he's been playing great for fucking six months, but yeah Maybe I don't know what was the world wrecking in the return to golf coming into the all caps returned to golf He was I believe number one fifty five in the world now today with this win moves up to I think number 17 last That's all he was inside the top 30 coming into this. Yeah, he's only 31. I know he's yeah

I don't even know where you start with him. Weird career, man. Seven years, that's crazy that it's been that long. He was so camp miss coming out of college, two early wins, just absolute world-beater. And man, it can go for anybody, it's crazy. Our friend the Komish, we were picking some stuff and I said, I think Harris is gonna have a better curtain speed.

This was back in like, it was like episode one, I think, that's the only podcast. And then he vilified me for that for years. Are you sticking with this take? Hey, who in the speed? Who in the speed? You face it.

You don't know how early we are in this. I will say to the flushing thing, I, right before the world changed, got to walk with him for a few holes at TPC. We got to walk and see a lot of golf. Here's English probably hits the ball like higher and more flush and more solid than probably anyone I've ever seen.

I know it's kind of a bit, but also not a bit. He really does fit that good. It's not a bit. Like unnecessarily flush high, like it, you don't need does not have that good. I know. It's not a bit unnecessarily flush high. You don't need to hit it that up into the atmosphere. He looks, you know, he's just one of those guys that looks like he was born to be a PGA tour player. Yeah, that's a good thing.

Yeah. He just, he has the walk, he has the swing, he has just everything. It's fun to see him playing well. Does it count as a full win? Because obviously, Walking Neiman came in super cold to the playoff. You know, he didn't go hit any balls after regulation. How about the fact on that block? First, I got to think, first playoff in PJ Tour history between two survivors. Two survivors and two non-winners from last season.

No, he's 2019. He's 2019. Really? Military tribute. But wasn't that the first event of this? Oh, right. That would have been 20, 20. Disregard, disregard. All right, P. Jim Justice. All right, P. Everyone.

Are we ready to go? Do I assume we want to go straight to JT next or anything else? I want to talk about. I want to talk about it. I had on Harris is like legitimately, feet's put him. No, he's just very simple one,

but like six top tens in his last 10 stars. Like it's, he's playing so, so good. This obviously shouldn't have been a surprise to anybody. He's on a heater, complete heater. Including a solo fourth at the US Open. Correct. Yeah. And the win at the QB issue, yeah.

I'd like to just admonish golf channel for cutting away from can't leave. Oh my God, what was that? Can't lay hit it 75 yards over the 18th greed, and the drop was gonna take forever. He might still be there taking the drop. Well put in a FJ tour apiates. They cut away, they show up,

he's putting from 10 feet for par, and he makes the putt. Is it like, oh, what an up and down. We never got to see where he dropped where the relief was. I think they knew that Twitter was going to be up in our forever. He got to drop that ball. But that was that was that was a miss again. Just shout out to the PGA tour app. It somehow gets worse and worse and worse every year.

I was going to excuse golf channel because there were like at least five other players still on the golf course at that point. And that's got to be really difficult to keep up with all that. So all right, hot topic this surface on Saturday evening, a hot mic, caught Justin Thomas saying the F-word, especially not the one named some of Nickelodeon. Not the Nickelodeon one, the one that is definitely the one you do not want to say. We got a lot of questions related to this. I summed them up in four questions from people on Twitter, just also so I can check off

that we've read four questions on the air. At Bogie's on deck is JT canceled. At Amal Yonic, a lot more thoughtful question here. PJ Tour would be much better off with publicly releasing information on fines and suspensions, right? Kobe got fined 100K by the NBA for saying the exact same thing that JT said.

At Store Pork says you guys still friends with JT. At Broom Axel is JT actually sorry or just sorry he got caught Lots taken there who wants to go first? I can try to take a couple of these. I think I T.C. I don't think he's canceled right like I don't I don't think that's necessary yet I definitely think he's sorry. He got caught saying it. I'm sure there's a part of him. Or I'm sure he is, sorry, he said it. This is a tough one. I think the four of us, you know, it's just an awkward topic, right?

To bring four of us with our mindsets and backgrounds to it. It's gonna be a test for the PJ tour, I think. I'm with whoever, it was the second question, I believe. I think the PJ tour should publicly do something, right? I believe JT should face some type of discipline. I don't know, I feel like I'm blabbering a little bit here. Somebody jump in, but. Going back to JT on the podcast, he said that he's vociferously

against being mic'd up on the course. And he laid out this scenario and like something. He's like, hey, there's stuff I said, you know, there's stuff that I don't want people to, he wants like, all right, well, like maybe when you look in the mirror and like not say that shit. 100%. You know, because if you're saying it in that moment,

chances are you're saying it all the time when you're playing over it, Grove 23 with MJ, or you know what I mean? Like there's just, it's a reflection of probably what you're doing a lot of time. You know what, maybe like, you know, it's probably a good learning experience for them. And it did seem like he was genuinely legitimately sorry. I thought it said something that he addressed it right after the round instead of... Letting agents do it.

Yeah, letting Steinberg and company do it, which we all know how they handle, like, culture and all that stuff and let it just marinate for four days until it gets even worse. So I think for him, I mean, it seems like he addressed it head on, but at the end of the day, like, yeah, he's gonna have to keep addressing it and probably make a concerted effort to go beyond words, right? That is what I think I would hope for his sake

that he, and I don't think he would think this, but it doesn't end today. It doesn't end yesterday. It doesn't end with the apology. He should be seeking out either advocacy groups or whatever. To your point, Randy, like the people that are most affected by this word

is not us in this room, but he should be seeking out the opinions of people. Like, what can I do? What can I do? Absolutely. And we had a, there was a gay golfer that DMed Tron and I this afternoon, just kind of addressing, like, I hope you guys. And we had a, there was a gay golfer that DMed Tron and I this afternoon just kind of addressing,

like I hope you guys addressed this on the pod. And we talked about it a little bit back and forth. I asked some questions kind of for his opinion. And his overall takeaway was like, actually the more I think about it, the more I think this can be a good thing. Like we can address this, like people will have more knowledge of knowing

not to use these words, not to offend people, et cetera. I think we'd be having an entirely different conversation tonight if he had either doubled down and kind of given more of an apology like I'm sorry you're offended or I'm sorry I got caught, which he did not. I think it would be more of a reflection of his character if that was the case or if he had said it to someone else

other than himself. I'm not here to excuse the behavior in any way, shape or form. I just think that I don't know where to go next. It's right, he, obviously it was very, you know, felt horrible about it. It regrets it happening. I don't know what we do next about it.

You gotta give him time to make it right and figure it out, right? I think, you know, really, it's in the day. Like, I don't begrudge somebody for lashing themselves. You can use all the profanity you want. I'm, I don't know all the time, but just, there's just certain words you can't use. Right. Yeah, I think there's, I think maybe it's three things for me.

I think one, it's, you know, weird that that's the word that was on the tip of the tongue and under the surface. I mean, I think like you said, Tron, you know, I say a lot of really bad shit on the golf course, I don't go to that one. And I think that brings me to the next point, which is like, it's really hard to weigh in on this without being morality guy. And I don't wanna sit here and pretend like

any of us don't say or do bad things. I don't really think any of us go to that word specifically, but listen, none of us are perfect. And, you know, none of us are perfect. And, you know, I do think there was very genuine contrition and I mean, you can, whatever. You can read as much into the apologies you want, but I will read into the fact that he looked really

genuinely embarrassed and probably felt really horrible. So, and I think the third thing, sorry, is something, Aime and Lynch said, it was kind of like a throwaway reply to somebody on Twitter, but it stuck with me that, you know, it's kind of the byproduct, it seems like of people who would be offended by that word, not really being in your orbit

from day to day. And I just think about that, like Aiman. I just think about that in a way, like compare this to, you know, the LPGA, which has a culture of, there's a ton of openly gay this to the LPGA, which has a culture of, there's a ton of openly gay players on the LPGA. I think everybody on that tour would probably know how offensive this word is

because you're constantly interacting with those types of people. And so I think that it speaks to the sameness of the PGA tour and what it's like out there all day every day. There's not a lot of diversity. There's not a lot of diversity of ideas. There's not a lot of diversity. There's not a lot of diversity of ideas. There's not a lot of diversity of backgrounds. There's a lot of that stuff. And so listen, does that any of that excuse,

like what he said, of course not. And does any of that let him off the hook for trying to carry the ball forward and actually do some good? I think everybody throws out the Kobe example. Someone, I think I'm all said that in the question, but everybody says that, you know, that started this whole path to, you know,

Kobe completely changing his mindset. And I think that goes to, like, should he be fine? Yes, they deserve to die, you know what, I hope they burn it out. What happened to read? Like, I mean, that said the same thing. That was gonna be the last thing I was gonna say is I don't want to not acknowledge

like a massive double standard here in that Twitter was extremely quiet about this or golf Twitter, media personalities. I think we're really quiet about this. I think if it was Reed who got caught doing this or if it was Grace and Murray who got caught doing this. But those are habitual lines. Listen, there would be a bit of a lifetime achievement award,

but still, Reed said the same exact thing and people blew up and freaked out about it. And it's, oh God, there's another example of this person being yada yada yada. And maybe that's true, but with JT, it's like, yeah, maybe he hasn't built up all that scar tissue, but man, we can't be, we can't pick and choose who were castigating here.

And he's got a lot of work to do to try to make it right and prove it. Can't just be like, man, I'm really sorry. And like, please forget about this. And I'm not gonna do it again. It's gotta be like, go fucking do something, man. Like, I think, I think, Solid, that's what you had mentioned earlier. And what are the opportunities too

for Justin Thomas with his prominence in the game and his platform and his social media falling. Like I think he could make a real difference if he chose to, right? He could turn into an advocate. When I was researching, just trying to find some analysis of the situation, I found an article by, I think it's pronounced side, CYD, Ziegler, who writes out sports. The article I read was, it's three years old, so it obviously doesn't pertain to the JT situation.

But it kind of came after the Kobe Bryant situation. There have been a couple similar situations with the F-Bomb by NHL players. He made the point. He's openly gay. He said a lot of times, I won't kind of congeal the whole article, but one of the big takeaways was a lot of times the people who are using that word don't mean it in a way that's like I am trying to exclude gay athletes or I am like, I hate gay people, right? It's just a word that has become synonymous with like, I suck or I'm, you know, which is terrible and I'm not excusing that, but this was his point was,

the message that the person's saying it, they're intended use of the word is so far off of what people who are gay when they hear that, how they receive the word. And there's this chasm that opens up. And really that's where it's like, yeah, I'm sure JT didn't really mean it in like a vicious, he hates gay people way, but like DJ to your point, it's like, yeah, why is that on the tip of your tongue? And so I think net net,

there's a lot of learning to be done. I hope, and I actually am confident that JT will will make the best of this. And like Kobe had words, but I think in this specific area and towards the end of his life, he had really changed his public persona and really became an ally for certain people in certain groups. And so it'd be cool to see JT do that

because I know, guys, there's no LGBT allies on the PGA tour. Like you just don't see it. And so if this can kind of break open. There probably are a ton, but you don't ever hear from them. I think that's different. Or they're not marketed. It's not seen. Right. Exactly.

Yeah. So yeah, one thing I hope doesn't happen is it's not like, see, this is why we can't have hot mics. Right. Yeah. I was going to hear all the horrible things we say we're not doing that. I was afraid to make that too big of a takeaway, but I also agree with that.

I think, you know, we, I was, you know, I was, when the kicking the guy out of the tournament thing happened, I was pretty much like, I don't think this is that big of a deal. I think we should kind of move on from it. I do not think that about this.

Like I think it's just two totally different categories. Yeah. And I hope people understand the difference in that. And the second thing was like, I talked to him some last night, and the apology in the statements he's put forward are very consistent also how he's talking about it privately. He's like, absolutely no excuse. Like I fucked up, I got to own it. And so even privately, that's exactly how he is thinking

about it. So I think it says something too. He didn't wait until he got back to his hotel room or what, he came directly off the course and owned up to it. He didn't go, he didn't get sat down by his agents and PR people and all that stuff. I think that says something. But going back to like F1 for instance, Max first step

and what can be considered as a sl slower this year, like on the radio. And there's never any talk of like, see like we can't air these radio chats, you know? It's like it's a part of the sport and it's a part of it's going on in the playing field. Like it's germane to the production, you know? I also wanna go back before we kind of skip over it, but this is a drum that we can keep beating

that probably will keep falling on deaf ears, but there's a big reason why I think people Lobby for fines to be made public and and there's got to be a bit of like a a public Catharsis I think that comes along with with something like this because like I'm scanning through Twitter and NPR had a story about Justin Thomas today like about this like what what wins the last time you read a Run-of-the-mill golf story on NPR like these are fairly story about Justin Thomas today, like about this. Like what, what, when's the last time you read it, run-in-the-mill golf story on MPR, like these are fairly transcendent, you know, stories.

And it's like, I guess that goes back to actually, like, following up and going through. Well, just make for sure, the stereotype that golf is closed off community, when outlets like MPR, when they don't see any public follow through by the two. Really great week for golf all the way around. Yeah, we fucking nailed it this week.

Like, Justin Thomas made $490,000 this week. Like, I think a large fine is appropriate. And but also on JT, like I would challenge him. It's easy for me to say I'm not the one writing the checks. But like, find a cause that supports like an advocacy for, you an advocacy for gay people, for whatever kind of community that you think is some appropriate to learn from and make a concerted effort and send a message and say, and I'd like to help whatever it is

and find some cause to donate that to. Like, he should talk to Ted Fujikawa, right? I'm trying to think of some other prominent people in the game of golf, but Shady's going to Honolulu next week, right? I know. That's from. I had that in the back of my mind, especially had he won. I know exactly, but it's like, I would have drawn, donated my draft Kings imaginary winnings. Yeah. It's going to be through action. So we'll see. I thought people, you know, maybe it's a bit of a double standard with J.T. kind of being, you know, a guy that is held in much higher regard than someone like Reed,

but I felt like the reaction was fair to it. People were not happy and called him on it. I also think a lot of it was it happened at like 10 o'clock on Saturday night. That too, as many people watching. But it didn't feel like people were in a huge hurry to cancel him. Yeah, you know. No, I agree. So, I think to be clear, if he'd come off as many people watching. But it didn't feel like people were in a huge hurry to cancel him. Yeah.

No, I agree. So I think to be clear, if he'd have come off and just not owned it, I think we would be having a very different conversation right now. I think people are also extremely exhausted. Yeah. I'm just being, being, you know, just everything going on. I'm very well said.

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A lot of what's that button that's in there, no shot at greeted regularly. Equitable stroke control was your friend on that day. We could go a lot of different directions next. I'd like to quickly cover, Spieth and Butch, Harmon apparently according to Twitter and according to Golf Digest, according to Golf TV,

a thing now, which apparently is also not the case. There was a tweet that went out that, you know, golf digest has confirmed that, you know, Jordan's beef and Boucharm and are working together. That technically true based on a very small time frame. It is, yes. Apparently, you know, I don't know the exact story, but what I've gathered, first of all, Boucharm and categorically denied this on his Instagram, screenshot of the golf TV.

Which is a funny sentence. Yeah. Which is very active on the ground. Yeah, which took to Instagram to defend himself. It's screen, screenshot of the golf TV tweet to say, like this is absolutely not true. The story, as I know it, is, there's a tournament, I think that, uh,

spieth was working on a couple of things. Cameron and Cormick couldn't make it out to Jordan or someone on his team with, you know, in conversation with McCormick had, you know, asked Butch to help him look at a couple of things. Like, hey, I'm working on this. How's it look to your eye? Do you see this blah, blah, blah?

They spent some time together on the range in Vegas and that I believe to be the end of the story. So I think it was very salacious and not telling the story to, the way it was presented by golf. It sounded like stiny. Golf time. That's the next topic.

But golf time, golf TV had issued a clarification on it which still didn't explain it. And they left the tweet up that says that they're working together, confirmed working together. And everyone ran with it as they predicted. They need to change it to worked together. Golf Channel, I think, even picked it up and yeah, everyone was very, very quick to jump

on some news. Aiman Lynch wrote an article about the PGA Championship potentially moving someone in New Jersey picked it up. Jersey.com. Jersey.com picked it up. That it was moved and then all of it, everywhere, it's like, no, it's moved. See, this New Jersey article, it's just a mess. This is why aggregators can't be trusted.

Can I be trusted? No, same thing happened this week. I said that, you know, T.C. broke the news that the WGC Mexico is decamping from Tripoltapec and going to Florida. I said, likely Naples, it turns out in that day that a concession, which we can get into that oh god Brode a big ash check and they're actually hosting it this year

And I think they're gonna take it international after that But it already gotten aggregated and all these people from Naples. Oh, it's coming here. It's coming here Not coming there. My favorite thing if I quick side note whenever TC breaks any kind of legitimate news I always love that he'll throw in some of the hide that's so stupid so that everybody retweeted. I cast also. It's the best. I think you said something like shout out to my hitters, group of Salinas in Geronimo. Maybe lap. It's like the wet band. It's like my calling call. I hate to see it leave Chipotle pack. That's

a significant part. Why is it leaving? I think Gruvo Salinas is really struggling. Well, obviously because of their industry that they're in, that we all know. It's not vague at all what they do, so we definitely can tell. What's a shared model for prosperity? Of course, COVID has destroyed that industry. I think one of their banks at the end is suffering greatly because the US was like, yo, y'all are just like laundering so much money and like you can't do that. But what does that, you know,

do the Mexico's image in front of the world? Exactly. Yeah, I don't know. The only thing I can, the only connection I can make is just, it's exorbitantly expensive to sponsor these WGCs and getting more and more so. So I would assume in these uncertain times,

it's probably a fairly easy thing to cut. I hate that, though. I hate that. I was absolutely hate it. By far the best WGC, I think one of the three best non-major tournaments for you. Non-major non-players.

I mean, I think that's top of the heap for me. Absolutely love that tournament. If we ride it, if the next one players. If the next one does, there's a suite. Go international, right? Because there's now going to be, I get it 2021. Yeah, I get 21. COVID year, whatever, like they're going to have three in the US,

but the WGC's are solos as it is. Going to concession is like, I can't wait to see the tour pros at concession. I either going to hate it. There's so many guys. There's so many guys on Twitter. Yeah, it's the highest slope rating in Florida. Like cool man.

They are gonna just flip out at those greens. I don't know whether tour is gonna find pinnable space on those greens, because they won't put it anywhere, that's anywhere controversial. They're gonna have to slow down. The whole 100%. Members play faster.

Members will 100%. Under a mini concession, I don't really know much about it. Well, it's Mr. Nicholas. No, I know that. Or some of the back story. Or some of the back story. Well, it's Mr. Nichols. Well, no, I know that. Of course, I know the back story. Of course, I know the back story. They're true to each of themselves.

Yeah. Being class acts. I played like eight holes out there with Azinger. And it is, I've never, I don't know if I've ever enjoyed a golf course less. Like it's just so freaking out. Azinger is gonna love it though. Yes, he might be sweet then.

Maybe people get punched in the face. You're staying on this tee, you get so nervous you can't. I'll reserve judgement there. Exactly. Yeah, it has a chance to be a beautiful disaster. Where do you guys wanna see it go? As it goes? Australia.

Australia would be great. Obviously, I don't know. Watch everybody skip it. It's a tough one to shoehorn into the floor of swing, going from whatever would be Bayhilded I know I know Randy's holding out for King Abdullah economic city. That's that's at the top my Leapy PC Royal Greens That's how you see boats off as I believe you glossed it on Twitter

These PJ guys do not know how good abuse of These PJ guys do not know how good abuse of breathtaking views of the Red Sea, the Red Sea that you can have. Remember the photo that they did with all the guys in different football jerseys? Like a hike in a football in front of the Red Sea? I do not remember that. Really? Oh man, I'm gonna pull it up.

I think the tour with their new strategic alliance, I think they should take it to Cran Seuer-Cierre in Switzerland. Well, they already have a tournament there. I know, but that's out. Or play two there. But I think I'd love to see the tour guys play that course. Yeah. I'm curious to see what they do. Because it's like, I feel like the WGC's are where they have the opportunity to, you know, hey, I think they should make the torch championship Memphis. And you free up another WGC right there. And then you could have, you could stay in Austin

and then you do, you know, everything else. Texas has too many golf tournaments as it is. They have a lot, a lot of golf tournaments. Mike Wann is out as the commissioner. That was this week. I know, this has been the craziest week. He is no longer, at some point in 2021, we'll be removing, resigning, removing

himself, resigning from his role as commissioner of the LPGA originally planned to be there four years, spent 11 years as DJs pulling up the picture of watch this super ball. Patrick Reed hiking the ball to Dustin Johnson. Nothing Travis Kelsey Jersey. Nothing says Niners cheese like the kingdom. Yeah., while it looks like Brooks is ready to rush off the edge. He is built like a lineback. He is. Mike Wahn moving on thoughts on this.

It was sucks. It sucks. Yeah, I mean, what a outpouring of good words, well wishes, congratulations to by everybody involved with the LPGA tour. I mean, that speaks to obviously the job he's done and how all of the constituents, I think, respect him and have really appreciated his leadership.

And the mess that he walked into. Yeah. I mean, it was, I think it was failing basically, and he stepped up and shot at the Carolyn Bivin. Yeah, that was tough seeing that. Tough seeing. And almost doubled the purse money that was given out over the course of, like in 2020, I think it was 70 something million dollars when he came in.

It was 40. And then, I mean, the job that he's done with, like the schedule last year of getting the rentals of that, getting the one up at Inverness, The schedule for this year, it seems like everybody's just been blown away by the, and every time we've met him, he's been so personable. And there's something that we always feel like, when we go to an LPGA event, when we go to really any other event,

it's like everybody there is, hey, how can we help you? How can we? His touch is everywhere. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say is, I don't think I've ever met him, never really spent any time with him, but I'm a big admirer from afar, have listened to the couple times, maybe once we've been on the podcast and listened to him on other pods and stuff. And I'm gonna talk about someone who's dedicated to the process.

It feels like everything is just like, the way he talks about sponsors and all of that stuff is just so, for whatever reason when he explains it, I'm like, the way he talks about sponsors and all of that stuff is just so, for whatever reason when he explains it, I'm like, God, that makes so much sense. And when every other executive in any other job explains it, I'm just like, fuck you, man. Stop showing commercials. Whereas when he explains it, I'm like, God,

that's the way to handle it. That makes so much sense. It's so confident with absolutely no ego to it. Yeah. Is that like it's just like honest and transparent. Yeah, exactly. Competent. Which is, you know, severely lacking.

Which stands out for it. Because it's, it's, it's so rare. It's so rare. Go be the CEO of the USGA. And people have said, hey, he's not like a golf guy. Like I've seen him float it as MLS, Commissioner, a few other things, but it's like, that's an interesting job.

I think almost having a non-blue blood golf person would be the best thing the USGA could possibly do. I heard that floating around, and then I heard a decently well placed source that thinks he will be the next CEO of the USGA. I'm just, that is very firmly in the rumor category, but someone that I would think would have an idea of it was like, I think it's gonna be him.

He doesn't know anything. He's just like, I think that would make a lot of sense. So it'll be interesting to see where the LPGA goes as well. I think that's the other piece of the news and I don't have any good rumors there. I don't know if he could be big Randy. You've been a big advocate on Twitter. Help me people, we're making a feeble's push.

You already have been changing golf channels graphics package. Oh yeah, tell us about that. You're, you know, Randy was getting an asses. I feel like the LPJ board really should turn to North Florida here. Randy, Randy already acts like a founder. It was, first of all, it wasn't just me, but golf channel put up a Thursday night graphic about golf's biggest events. And it was every PGA tour major plus the players, plus the FedEx comp, layoffs, and the Olympics and the rider cup. And the rider cup. And

I mean, so predictably it pissed off a lot of people. And so they were just taking heat. I honestly, I kind of missed it Thursday night because it's late. It was coinciding a little bit with the coverage. And you were watching, coffee. And that's the honest, I wasn't watching. And so I woke up for IA and saw it.

And it's just like, Jesus, people, you just last month was the whole women worth watching hashtag, which I know to us felt disingenuous. And I think this is just a prime example of why we felt that way back in December. It's like, yeah, it sounds great for that one week a year when you're in the spotlight. And, you know, there were decisions made that week

that had people like, really are women worth watching, are your actions meeting your words, and this was just another example. And so I think by the next that night, Friday night, they had, they re-did the graphics, and it was all of a sudden it was men's golf superseason or something, and then they showed women's golf superseason. But I do think it's an interesting point

and somebody made this point to me that I kind of congratulated them for course correcting at least getting back to like baseline where they're, hey, men and women, you know, they both have big events. And somebody was like, yeah, like that's just back to like zero though, right? Like how big of an opportunity would have been like,

at least they're on the soul-hime cup, right? Because literally that's the event would have been like, at least they're on the Soulheim Cup, right? Because, originally, that's the event this year. I think I'm mostly forward to. Like the writer cup and the Soulheim Cup, honestly. And it's why they can't call it the season champion. It's either because it's two cups. Yeah, so it was just a classic own goal. And just more of that just makes you think,

man, you guys just pay lip service when it's necessary. So. The only thing I would say to that is the women worth watching thing I say squarely goes on the USGA. And I know the NBC was kind of touting it like golf channel was in partnership with the USGA. The head of golf channel was on the.

Well, it's all meant exactly. Yeah. It's on the. She was on the forum. I just want to make sure that the USGA gets blamed for the women with watching thing. Because that was terrible. But but the golf channel was like, hey, yeah was on the forum. I just want to make sure that the USGA gets blamed for the women with watching thing, because that was terrible. But the golf channel was like, hey, yeah, that's us.

We, you know, we're delivering that. And it's like, are you? It kind of reminds me, it's a very simple truth that like in order for things to change, maybe some things have to change. You know what I mean? Imagine that. And that's kind of where a lot of this seems like it comes

to, we can't just keep talking about it. It's there's so many people that are just like, you know what, like? Imagine that. And that's kind of where a lot of this seems like it comes to. We can't just keep talking about it. It's so many people are just like, you know what, like now it's different. It's like, well nothing has changed. Nobody in a position to make a change has made one fucking change. So maybe that's why nothing's changed. I wonder if that could be it.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You can get a big randy. You can get in there as. You want to feel old? The Lisa Cornwall thing was also this week still. Well, so that made it even more delicious. It just, you know, whatever.

You guys want to talk some Tiger documentary, HBO? I'd love to. I'll watch it this afternoon, you know. It's airing right now, but we have some friends that know some people in Hollywood. DJ Pie knows some people and got us a screener that Big Randy also didn't watch. DJ Pie's on the, on Pie, I'd know some people, and got us a screener that Big Rainy also didn't watch. DJ Pie's on the Warner board.

He's on the HBO Super Max. I wanted to bring the Everyman perspective to the podcast. Well, what's your question? Okay, honest question. I've seen. You're the moderator of this panel. Yeah, no, I think it actually makes for good content.

You know, I'd seen a picture of myself this way. I had seen a few people tweeting about the documentary, some other folks that have watched it early, and I was surprised to see kind of the uniform reaction of, oh man, they're just dog and tiger, it's not good. And so I guess that's where I'll start with. What was your takeaway? Is that fair?

Where the people that you were reading this from also had a content partnership with Tiger Woods. May, I forget who it was. There's a lot of golf digest seem to be pushing out. They had to get called out. Something big shot Bob Lusette, I think called out the editors.

Who's in the doc? Who's in the documentary? Neither here nor there. The big group. The originator of the big group. He called out a golf digest for not disclosing the content partnership as they wrote up a pretty scathing review

of the documentary on the website. Well, before it was gonna come out, clearly getting in front of the story, it smelled fishy from the get-go. I think it all comes about down to expectations. Totally. I'll start, I guess, with... First of all, the film critic here.

He watched 100 movies last year. Of course. First of all, listen, anybody can have any review of this they want. They may have had very different opinion. No, I called everybody who had a differing opinion possibly an idiot. No, you had a better word, but I gave everyone a good one.

Sean bottom lined it. So, first of all, other reviews be damned, but I can't stress how much that wasn't my takeaway after watching both parts. I mean, I know only part one aired tonight in part two is much, much more about. Part one's harmless. Very harmless.

Yeah, and I mean, it goes, it's not kind of url, but I don't think it's possible that it's the first. I don't think that's the first piece of media to have that opinion. But part two is much more about the downfall, the scandal, the injuries, the substance abuse, the all kinds of that stuff. And I actually, my takeaway was that it is weirdly sympathetic to Tiger.

I thought, I mean, I thought it does a great picture of kind of reflecting on what golf never reflects on, which is like, hey, yes, of course, this guy is and was the best person to ever do this. He was superhuman at golf. That's amazing. Let's, I think that's been covered. You know, I think we've, I think we've given that it's due. Not enough people just plain bold typeface acknowledge the fact that like, he also went through the most public scandal in human fucking history as well. Maybe I don't know, maybe Bill Clinton's on that, cat on that, not Rushmore,

but like, it depends on what the definition of is. That's a great point. But like, yeah, he also went through that. So like, and he also, and then like a D-line, got a Matt and a FF2. Yeah, had like drug addiction issues. And he also had many, many, many back surgeries. And he also had got the chipping yips.

And he also lost his dad, who we just covered in part one, was like this massive influence. And it's just in order to truly, I don't want to sound like a hippie, but like in order to truly, truly stay like you can appreciate who he is and what he's done and all that stuff. Like you have to acknowledge deeply all the shit that he's been through.

I think it makes some of the success that much more impressive. 100, right? I think it, it all comes back to, I don't know, I don't think this is a spoiler because it's kind of what they lead with in the start. It says, we always try to make him out to be more than he is and that goes back to Earl.

And it goes back to that initial thing that Earl said where he's like, yay, he's like the Messiah. He's gonna do more than humanity than like God be. Yes, maybe that was a lot to put on the shoulders. That's a lot to handle. And then there's, see how maybe that would make you wobble a little bit? And then there's stuff in there where like, you know, like Earl's given lessons to women on the range and then he's going into this RV like tigers right there putting and he's banging these women.

Well, they don't say that at cocktails. They have cocktails with the RV. I'd like to give a shout to Joe Grom and the assistant pro. Shit. Shit. Shit. They're not gonna like this. I'm sorry.

Acting stunned that he's got to talk about the skirt chasing. I didn't think you were gonna ask me about that. I thought you were gonna talk to me about my assistant pro career, the Navy golf course here, but no, shit, I guess I got to talk about this. I think, all right, so where I came out was, was there a ton of new stuff in there for those of us that read the book? And we reviewed the book.

They want books to say what book? Tiger Woods. Okay. Although if you read the golf digest article, it just calls it Tiger, which is not the correct name. Which is Armicotay and Jeff Benedict. Sure. Came out maybe two years ago.

And DJ Alice knew the audio book on a big road trip and couldn't put it down. But it, so for something like Tiger Woods, who has had so many rumors and stories out there about like, oh, I heard he was doing this, I heard this, I heard this for me to have everything laid out by people that are willing to, like, have done the research and to swear by

that these things happened. Like, the Kill House thing was always mythological in my mind. Like, yeah, I know like rumors are that he was doing this. I didn't even throw that out there. You talked about how he was gonna retire and literally join the Navy SEALs. Which women's sick.

That's unbelievable. Nobody grasps how crazy that is. So this doesn't like, imagine Harris English walked off today. It was like I love this game, but like I'm hanging it up and you know I'm gonna become a Navy SEAL. Now a match of Harris English had 80 more fucking wins, and then he did that.

Nobody talks about how crazy that is. So to have it all actually laid out on a timeline, and all contributing to telling the story of the guy. How did this all happen? Has the golf field secondary? It is, it is totally secondary and you know how it basically does I think a great job of documenting like when his maturity stopped and it's like an a it's a I don't know whose theory this is or whatever but the age of when you become famous is when your maturity level you can't mature past that

and a lot of different levels like you can't stops being normal, you stop dealing with the same everyday adversity and same everyday problems and you just are stuck in that mode. So like hearing some of his mistresses and this is a spoiler for part two, but just talk about like him eating cereal and watching cartoons in the morning was just like, oh, fuck, that's sad. Like that hit me is just like, this guy is just not, like never had a chance to, and it's part of his own doing, like that's what the money's for, like you didn't have to be this corporate image,

you did not, you could, you know, there's a lot of famous athletes that have chosen not to go that route, and he did, but it does kind of just shine a light on, like, whoa, this is the story of this guy's life, and it seems pretty complete and fair to me. I thought it was, I was blown away at how positively and almost like friendly the mistresses recalled everything. They're like, yeah, like I was like tiger.

There was no maliciousness or like ill will there. I was like, hey, like, you know, there was no maliciousness or ill will there. I was like, hey, there's enough space now between what happened. And we'll talk about it. But I thought at the end of the first part where Ushatel comes in and she's like, wait, so what do you want me to talk about? That was so lame. That was so stupid. That's 100% agree.

So I thought that I was like, DJ would have never let that happen. Well, so yeah, so then I was expecting part two to be a lot more slanted and, you know, just like, like, stining's more, it's salacious. And I think at the end of the day, it's like, A, like, you guys didn't participate at all. So I think like the fact that it was as fair and, and, you know up front and factual

as it was is like that's a credit to all the producers in my opinion. That's what I was going to say is I think that there's a couple of big things you got acknowledged which is one, I think the natural comp everybody is going to make was the last dance. This is definitely not that because it's not that in scale, it's not that in scope. It's not that. I took that personal. If you wanted to make it a last dance kind of thing, you'd have to, it would have to be eight parts long at least.

Yeah, totally. It could be 20 parts long, I think. But it's like, if you're gonna do that, which brings me to the second acknowledgement, you gotta make it like you have to have buy-in from, like think about who's not in this document. I was gonna say, the biggest critique I think you can have is the people that are speaking throughout it are probably of the top 100 people you would wanna hear

from, Steve Williams is probably the only one that's in there that's like, oh yeah, like that. It may be racist. It's all bit players except for Stevie and you could tell. One or two other people. That's right. I think the guy from the Navy golf course was actually a good source.

I'd never heard from him before. I thought P. McDaniel was great too. Yeah. There was a couple things and maybe we talk about this next week, but yeah, there's a lot in part two, I think, to unpack. But I mean, going back on that, it's like one of the things that made the last dance so awesome. And of course, there were trade-offs to this.

Like, I'm sure that Michael Jordan had things cut out of the last dance. I mean, I'm sure his finger was on the scale, at least a little bit for that. But what you got out of that was like, you know, oh, Michael Jordan and Isaiah Thomas were rivals. Okay, cool. Let's hear from Michael Jordan and let's hear from Isaiah Thomas. Yeah. And let's hear from Michael Jordan and let's hear from Isaiah Thomas. And let's hear them talk about that. Whereas in this, it's like Tiger Woods and Phil Mickelson had a great rivalry.

Here's Tiger hitting a six iron into number seven at Augusta. And like that's it. You don't get to hear from them. You don't get to hear the color, the context. But it's like, none of his peers are in the, no, Nick Faldow is the only one willing to go on from like actual professional golf

perspective and Rocco, I guess which Rocco's in it for like racing sweatshirt. That's tough. Look, which Rocco's only, they only use like 30 seconds of Rocco. It's crazy. But he, yeah, so you don't have any of his peers. So that makes all the golf stuff struggle. Like there's, they woefully can't explain, you know, how and why he is, not only the best of all time, but like heads and shoulders above the other bests of all time, you know what I mean? So you don't have any golfers, so you can't do that.

You don't have, you know, tiger. You don't have nobody. No one can tiger cam. Steinberg, you don't have butch, you don't have Hank Haney, you don't have Sean Foley, you don't have Eelin, obviously, you don't have like Phil, you don't have Como, you don't have JT talking about the last few years, you don't have any of this stuff. And it's like, you had Marco Mirrors' wife, which is cool. Yeah, she didn't have Mark. And so it's like, you know, in order for them to actually put

out, so I guess back in up, I thought they kind of tip their hand on what it was with the intro sequence where so you have Earl speaking at the Haskins dinner, which is like a semi-famous speech where, you know, I'm sorry, I get a little emotional when I talk about my son. Yada, yada, yada, and they have this great montage of all these golf moments and then they end this montage. It's basically like the hero, welcome to the Tiger documentary shot, is him in the holding cell in Jupiter and it's the police video and it's like, okay, like that's your big like boom, music swelling, like that's your moment and that's the shot you chose to use.

It's like, yeah, okay, see what you're doing. That's the tone. That's the tone. And so it's like when you're limited by all these things, I would, these are all massive assumptions. But I think when you're limited by all those things and you can't get into the golf specifics and you can't get into all these other

like hyper, hyper specifics of his life, you gotta kind of try to, you know, create like a character sketch a little bit. And you gotta have some sort of angle and some sort of bent and it's like, yeah, that's one that hasn't really been told in a documentary before. It was told in great detail in the book,

which they used heavily, but like all the other quote, unquote, documentaries are just their Wikipedia pages, right? Like here's Tiger hitting the shot at the Canadian open. So I was kind of glad they did it too. And all the, you know, the frame by frame golf shots, because, hey, they didn't have footage rights to any of those. I'm sure the they didn't do it. All the frame-by-frame golf shots, because, hey, they didn't have footage rights to any of those. I'm sure the tour wouldn't play well. I think, no, I think they did.

They had plenty of stuff from Firestone and Bay Hill. Because that was a big takeaway for me. It was like how little, and we'll probably talk about this in a different context later in the pod, but how little stuff there was from PGA Tour events, but how little that mattered because the only events that really matter

are the majors. That's, yeah. And it was like the US, or it was the USM, and then stuff from the Masters, stuff from the US Open. One of the kind of the big ones was the O6 British Open after the Earl had died. Which got the puffs of dust and the dirt too. That's heartbreaking when Tiger just sinks into Stevie

and Stevie's kind of keeps trying to end the hug and Tiger just won't end it. It's like there's, that's tough. And then he says Sergio's outfit. Diff, really tough. Tweety bird. Really tough. Well, let me ask you this.

Did you learn anything? Or was it just a kind of everything you had picked up through different books and mainly the Tiger Woods book, it was just brought to the screen and brought to life. Totally the latter. Okay, for me, I mean, it was like, there was nothing in there that really wasn't in the book, I didn't think.

I would say I learned a lot in the book. So if you read the book, I think you would definitely learn from watching this. And that's, I think you just learned about like, the girlfriend stuff, the first girlfriend, I think tells so much of the story, right? That, you know, she didn't even know. A very small specific story, right?

Like not like the time your would speak. No, story. But like of the story they're trying to tell. Yeah, I don't know if that difference makes sense, but like, she kind of lost me though when she said, I didn't even know we had a golfing team. But that like speaks to like, their relationship. Because I didn't even know we had a golfing team. But that speaks to their relationship. Because she didn't even know he was famous.

She went to the LA open with him when he was playing at Megas' first P-Jay and he's signing autographs. And she's like, what the hell is going on? And I think that that is very, that signal to me. Like, all right, that is, this is the end of me as a kid. And they have all kinds of home videos of hers. Of him dancing, getting ready to go to prom,

he just is laughing up a storm, and he's on the ground playing a fake saxophone, and I've never seen that from Tiger, and that's because the second he turns professional, that all went away, and he became this corporate, I don't wanna say stooge, but this representative of all these brands and lost so much personality along the way.

I thought it was interestingge, but like this representative of all these brands have lost so much personality along the way. So I'm just. I thought it was interesting too a little bit, how Nike right off the bat pushed him to all the racial stuff right off the bat. So I thought that was kind of an important theme or important juncture there of like, hey, like they took the microphone kind of away

from Tyre a little bit, or said, hey, you have to talk about this. And I don't, but wasn't that a burning, like, it wasn't that so much fuel for Earl, especially with the antiger. But it was, it was Earl. It didn't seem like that was ever Tiger, but Tiger was kind of thrust into that.

I mean, I could be totally wrong on that. No, I mean, he downplays, you know, like, they touch on it. And there's, what's, I forgot the other documentary that's out now about, it's basically like race and tiger. I forget, you know, what it's actually called, but it's just, half an hour an hour long just talking about like a lot of perspective

from a lot of different people on, you know, how tiger views his race and doesn't want to call himself black and all that. That is a lot of time to the cobblin Asian moment. It did. That's the thing. Which, thinking about the cobblin Asian thing, it's given a lot of letters to Asian,

not as many letters to... I might just be a fanatic thing. The Caucasian, the Black, or the Indian. Yeah. So it's complicated in that regard. Just saying it. So the golf stuff, I think a five minute sweep by anybody that knows golf would have helped that tremendously.

If you are a golf nut, a lot of stuff drove me nuts. So many of the shots are like out of sequence. They're dubbing into the wrong. Especially the ones that Augusta. Oh, the Augusta with the trophy. Nuts. They dub in the wrong sounds for a lot. He's like hitting like a little wedge shot.

It's a driver's sound with it and like that. It's just, it's nails on a chalkboard a little bit. But, and not to advance too far ahead to part two, and not to spoil it, but it's like, if you're wanting this to all crescendo into this wonderful happy ending and feel like the build up to this incredible comeback, the comeback feels much more like an epilogue

to the story. And that's, I think, just the byproduct of the timing. It's too much stuff for too small of a hole, right? Like, this is a, I mean, it's a comeback game. I would watch a 40 hour version of this, right? If anything, if anything, the comeback feels like it should have been part three. Yes, exactly.

It should have been another 90 minute game. I would agree with, I didn't really read many reviews, but I'm sure a lot of them would say that, like they spend so much time knocking them down and don't really give enough credit to him actually dragging himself out of the mud and coming all the way back. On that, they do, they say all the things, right?

They say it at the, it feels small. It does. It feels hollow or whatever. It's tough critique because it's like, yeah, they talk about him saying at the champion's dinner, like I'm done playing, talk about he couldn't get out of bed, talking about his daughter finding him on his back. Like talking about how bleak the scene looked,

the DIY, they spent a ton of time on it. Like it definitely feels like it's not gonna happen, but they almost kind of zoom to like, oh yeah, now he's in contention here, right? Well, I thought it was crazy when, and again, we'll talk about part two next week mostly, but like when Armand Catei and he's just like, yeah, he just, you know, he was in the throes

of this unbelievable drug problem and addiction. That was the only time. He just leaves that one sentence there and then they're on to the next thing. I did want to give a shout out to Tiger's kindergarten teacher. She was body and people. She was awesome. She's basically like, fuck you, Earl. Tiger was saying he wants to play more sports. You know how I got to hear more from? I mean, just one of the goats people forget, Gary Smith. Yeah.

Oh, he was, he was a, a ray of light. The Monty music. That was the, why did they do that? Why did they do that? That was brutal. They did. It was dickish thing, I think. Almost like the British, like sad trombone.

Boom. Boom. Boom. As Monty's walking down the fairway. I was so unnecessarily beat. Oh my God. And then cats, sunglasses, Oh my God.

Throughout the entire thing, like from the moment he's, you know, a teenager all the way through to, you know, his mid 40s, like some of the worst sunglasses. I mean, never get any better or any worse. It's just differing levels of bad. This was more of a part two kind of 07 to 2010 segment, but my wife just knew she had a great question that I'd post to the group out of nowhere, which was, why did he wear so much neon green?

So much neon green. And leather too. You worked like leather jackets and stuff. Why did he wear so much neon green? So much neon green. And leather too. You work like leather jackets and stuff. I would say to anyone that says this is too salacious, which is I've only heard coming from Team Tiger, the text messages were not read. And the text messages are like the greatest, like it's not even, I don't even,

I don't know what to think about that. I probably don't, like salacious, it probably is salacious, but it's out there, like it's public. It's not like, the voicemails not on there. It's not on there. Like the details are not quickly there and that would be easy or clickbait to it and it's not in there.

And I think it is probably part of the story, but they do a great job of like, I've only read the text messages or heard that, you know, that stuff and I've never heard, like Rachel, you could tell job of like, I've only read the text messages or heard that, you know, that stuff. And I've never heard, like, Rachel, you could tell, say like, I need you and only you right now until I read this book. And it was like, oh, that's what, at least a part of their relationship was like, that makes me feel a little bit differently about things.

Not that I excuse any of it, but I'm like, oh, like that is not the way I had understood it. So, yeah, I think at the end of the day for me, I just, I expect it even during Tigers most vulnerable embarrassing episodes, I didn't feel shame for them as much as I just felt bad for them, right? And wanted them to like, brutally, awfully bad. Yeah, and you're not, you know, shame on you or you're not, like, it's just like, yo, like, dog, like, I'm glad it worked out to it, it makes me feel out there. It could have gone another way.

Yeah, and to me, that, like, understanding all of that makes the comeback and makes all of that feel that much more powerful and that much cooler. So I think, in a certain sense, you know, and hoping this is the case, it's like, in a certain sense, it feels like since we're still in the midst of the comeback and of that, you know, happy ending, no pun intended. And not feel like, but like since we're still in the midst of that positive ending, it seems like hopefully we're still living that and they didn't need to draw on that much more, if that makes sense.

I'll say my wife was into it big time. I mean, after part one last night, we watched it last night in part two, she said, can we watch part two? So I don't think it's intended for golf fans. And it's, yeah, no, that was my biggest takeaway. It's not like horrifically salacious that it's like cheap TV in a way.

No, either. It was just interesting. I thought it hit a pretty good balance. I think there's, we should acknowledge probably that there's some debate on whether, when you can't get that many people to participate and when, whether it's worth doing. Whether it's worth doing,

and, or whether it's worth waiting until the story kind of has an ending, or, or whatever it is. It does feel unfinished, right? Like you're saying, you don't really know how the rest of the career is gonna go. If there is a rest of the career and all that stuff, it's like, I don't know. I, I, I don't really know how the rest of the career is going to go. If there is a rest of the career and all that stuff, it's like, I don't think this will

ever happen if I had to bet yes or no, I would bet no, but I'm thrilled and delighted at the idea or the dream of a last dance style pod that Tiger is involved in that he's willing to talk about. Even if it's not everything, at least the bulk of some of these very, very, very public things. And because I think once you get tiger, you get, like I mentioned JT, I mean,

like imagine JT talking about what the last few years have been like. And like, you have all these generations of people who have said, like, oh, I started playing golf because of Tiger. And that has changed golf in astronomical ways. You don't hear from one of those people, you know? And it's like, imagine filling all that in,

hearing Phil talk about God knows what, hearing, like, I just got it would be so good if they could ever do like a proper last dance style run at this. I would say on the flip side of what, like, was this worth making I would ask the same thing to the golf channel one That was essentially just that was that was the Wikipedia page Yeah, the SPN one you said was the SPN or the one is like Christmas like two years ago or New Year's

Yeah It was like and next up at the Val Spar championship So it was PGA tour produced. Yeah, it was awful. It was like that's on the other side of it, is like, you guys had, you know, this is the most vanilla. Yeah. Yeah, I thought the saddest part of the whole thing

was the chipping yips. Oh, it's brutal. That shit was awful to watch. They didn't even, they didn't even. I thought that's so deeply. Share some of the chips on there that were so, so, so, so bad. The one he bladed into the stands and Phoenix,

that people thought he did it on purpose. That's fun. Fun loving tiger, did that on purpose? He laughed after it, it was intense. Most of my, no, dog. Most of my, most of my heavy takes are for part two. I share it on my part two takes, I think. Like just like every time I see Billy Payne's face,

that was a god. Big, big, big take over the music. I want to jump through the screen and punch the shit out of that. Brian Gumball destroyed Billy Payne's face. Oh, that was a God. Big, big, big take over the internet. I want to jump through the screen and punch the shit out of that. Brian Gumball destroyed Billy Payne, and it was awesome. Yeah. Every time I see Jim Gray,

I want to jump through the screen and that, what was that? What about every time you see that the Taiwanese animation? That was another note I had. From the night of the fire hydrant thing. And then Fowdo talking about the solar cycles. Yeah.

Oh yeah. When he's getting ready to win the Masters, what are you? Just shut up. Seriously, it really highlighted how dumb that was. And then I'm laying out on Fowdo. At least he was willing to do it. No other golfers were willing to do it.

And then lastly, the, so I thought they put the DUI rest in a really good context after the 2017 Master's Champions dinner. Like, I think they did set the stage of like, yo, he was like not in a good place and he was in soup, he was in a ton of pain, couldn't sit still at the dinner, all that stuff. And then...

The DUI stuff is so cringy. Like it's just, it's so hard to watch. It's really hard to watch. Not the way they presented it. I'm just like the footage is just, this dude was so messed up. So lucky, he didn't hurt anyone. Yeah. I always hated the tiger, whoever the video that somebody

has his mug shot on a shirt. And tiger walks by him in a tournament, starts laughing, and all the meme accounts and I'm really posted it, I thought it was hilarious. I'm like, yo dude, like that, no. That could have ended a lot differently for you. And I feel like I want you to be way more remorseful about that than you appear to be about that.

I think the other clip that weirdly stuck out to me was, after you won at St. Andrews, and you're standing up there with the trophy, and all the presses around, he's just, fuck me. Just like exasperated and exhausted. And you know, we're doing style. I think there's something interesting.

Even if it's a story you already know, I got what it's said and watch it again, probably. Like it's entertain, I don't know if entertainings are right word, probably is, but like it's entertaining. It's the reason why people still rewatch the office, you know what's gonna happen, but like it is not soothing, but it is. And I will say I think it's familiar.

I think maybe, you know, you talked about like casual fans, hardcore fans. I think that hardcore golf fans, I think, like we're so not used to anything in golf, you know, being this interesting. I think so I think it's kind of like, and the spectrum of sports documentaries. It's like, yeah, it's fine, you know? It's okay. But I think in golf, it's like, oh my God, finally. Like, all right, we got one on the board. Yeah, there's still some weight to this.

This is all we got, by the way. This is something interesting to discuss. And so I think that there's gonna be a little disconnect there. I'm guessing a lot of people in the world of sports will feel almost kind of let down by it, but I think inside of golf, it's like, hey, at least, you know, just we got something. Should it be made, we just spent like 30 minutes talking about it.

Yeah, so yes, I would definitely say this. I think it's worthwhile. Yeah, 100%. Another topic that came up this week with a lot of stuff happening around the country. Aiman Lynch's article, I would say, was kind of like that new meme that's going around of the small domino falling and then you know something happening at the other line. We've addressed this on the podcast, the fact that the 2022 PGH Ambitious is scheduled to

go to Trump National. Can I say it is shocking that this is going to have a tough ending. No, this decision to do this. No one could have possibly seen this coming. No one gonna have a tough ending. I know this decision to do this. Who could have possibly seen this coming? No one could have seen this coming. You can't blame anyone in this process. There was no signals over the last six years that this could have been a tough scene.

The guy that made the decision got promoted. That's people Aqua, I believe you're referring to. This was when Ted Bishop was the president of the PGM. I never know all their huge executive. Who by the way was fired for tweeting that Ian Polter was quote, a little girl. And now we have not moved the PGA championship away from the president's private for profit golf course after he incited a riot on the US Capitol. But interesting.

They're going to wait till after the inauguration though, because they can't do anything to them. What did I say? I just want to read this from this is from Aiman Lynch's Pizza and Golf Weeks. The 2017 US Women's Open held at Trump National and Bedminster New Jersey was a painful spectacle as most players tried to ignore the groping elephant in the room. His Bedminster course is scheduled to host a 2022 PGA championship effect that now has the PGA of America bunker down under sustained criticism for a decision

made in 2014, such as the parals of assigning championship venues far in advance. You just never know when you've hitched your premier event to a sociopath, though there was a hint back in 2017 when you do when the PGA, PGA of America chose to kill the grand slam of golf rather than play it at Trump's loss Angeles course in the wake of his racist comments about Mexicans. Amit and goes on to lay waste in this article, which... Well, Shibnak reported, we're Sunday night, that it's imminent. I believe he was the one who said after the inauguration, and also that there's been talk of the members there potentially trying to buy it from Trump.

And I don't know if that would potentially save the PGA there or what, but. There's talk of, there's no chance that they go to Liberty National. Why not? So what have there been ones that mentioned Liberty and Southern Hills. Southern Hills and I get a show. I've heard show Creek. I've heard show Creek. I know they're

they're the US women's open there a few years ago. Which I do think, listen, the optics there and they can be real as fecrate either. Why that's yeah. So darkly funny, but I think show creeks made a lot of wholesale changes. I think they've, they've clean house. It's all for a question. It's all for Nick's design. That's right. Which is really cool.

I think it's, it's a, all right. Now, Ryan Lavner just now reported to hear it 1002 Eastern time. PJ of America says the 2022 PJ will no longer be held at Trump National Bedminster, no replacement venue announced yet. So now it is official. I guess the P.J. America just released it. They voted tonight to exercise the right to terminate the agreement to play. This is from Jim Richardson, the P.J. 25th Amendment of the P.J.A.

P.J. Couldn't they have done it like three nights ago? They could have three years ago. Three fucking years ago. I was going to say it like, at the very least, you know. My biggest takeaway is like, or I guess the part that I don't, is almost like, the meeting was really this week, like, oh, you know what? Now we can have as enough.

Enough is enough. Enough is enough. This is where I'm taking it. You can only push me so far. Mr. President, here, read my lips. You can only push me so far. Oh, God. That's my, like anybody who wants to even make it, I don't think it's a political thing.

It's not. Dude, like they're just gonna, they're gonna lose money hand over fists on it. Companies aren't gonna wanna be involved with it. Like there's a massive loss. I know, at minimum. He's just the most polarizing person in the country. So like ignore the politics.

Yeah. Why would you wanna go to go there to begin with? Yeah. Like you have unlimited options. Of course it actually comes to me. I liked it, but that's a separate. That's a separate thing. That's a member of there. But I don't get...

Listen, I don't... Is that the one with the biggest waterfall? I don't know. I thought that was the DC area for it. That's the DC one. I just, I don't get how it would be okay for any organization like this to take their premier championship. Listen, I know Trump is a unicorn in this situation. But why would you take your championship to the president of the United States of America

like their for-profit private golf club? No matter who the president is, it doesn't matter. As I was gonna say, you're best. Imagine Obama national. Obama national. Yeah, we're going to Barack Hussein Obama's private golf course that he runs. We're taking our championship there.

Do you think there would be any issues with that? What's so ever? Do you think people would maybe have some complaints about that? It's like, dude, as soon as it would have been so easy in 2016, I quote unquote, easy. I mean, seems pretty easy for my seat to say like, hey, you know what, this guy's the president.

This is muddying some waters. Maybe we just, let's move this thing. And instead say like, hey, you know what, this guy's the president, this is muddying some waters. Maybe we just, let's move this thing. And instead, like, good, I'm glad this is blowing up in their face. What a fucking stupid decision to let this just buster for the four weirdest years until this happened. And now be like, you know what, enough's enough guys.

We gotta do something. They've tried to explain it a way like, yeah, we really want something that's like convenient to New York City and all that. Do you have any great goal course? Which can't find anything. Glippery Nationals right across the, across the, it's a short fairy right away.

Hell, their leadership knows where all the private courses are. Oh, exactly. And that where they hung out, Betpage Black Week. Oh, God. Maybe on a somewhat similar note, a day after the capital was overrun by Trump supporters, standing as buddies. Gary Player and Anika Sorensam went to the White House and accepted their presidential medal of freedom, which was not publicized anywhere.

There was no media allowed, neither player posted about anything related to it. No, I thought Gary's Instagram was hopping. Well, I'd heard something that they had not. I had not checked Gary's Instagram. Well, leading up to it, maybe not the ceremony itself. Maybe not the ceremony itself. Yeah, there was footage of him on the grounds and whatnot. Gary's own son called him out and was exasperate.

But that's, listen, that's a minefield there in another cell. I think that's his other son. His other son, no, that was the... Selling the master's tickets. Yeah, but who knows what's going on with his son. I was gonna say, there's so much about Gary Player that just gets glossed over, right? Oh, 100%. A partied, cheating at Lhythm.

He unblocked me. That's amazing. Maybe he's open to the two dialogue now. Looked him. Looked him. Good morning. He's maybe he's open to the dialogue now. Looked at Carter good morning. Yeah. He's a PhD true. Maybe he was trying to go establish martial law. Do you think either gave it a second thought? I mean, do you think there was any consideration? But you know what, this

is probably not the best time. Based on one look through Anika's following on Twitter, and I would say not on her end, maybe Gary player, the World's Most Traveled Man. Trademarked, maybe gave it some thought, but ultimately decided that this was too great of an opportunity to pass up, I guess. The timing. Anika's husband gives Alex Jones a run for his money.

Maybe down the road. I think Anika might be a... I know you have some spice. I know you have some space. Later this year. There was someone in the DMs that pointed out, like, all right. So just like going through, like, we're talking about following some crazy right wing conspir- Like we're not talking about following, like, just right wing politics. Shepherdsmith.

You are allowed to be a conservative if you want to be a conservative. That's not what I'm saying. Like, following the most out there of out there people on Twitter, she's gonna be the president of the International Golf Foundation. Like the, I don't know what they do. I don't either, but like the most basic due diligence there would kind of be like, huh, that seems a little,

little funny, right? Like, it could have been a qualification. Fair enough. That's why you don't know, you don't know. Fair enough. It, what else we got? What else we got? What else we got?

Adam Scott, I have on the list here to talk about. That's been interesting. That's up to Halifax. It's really winding real quick. Have Anika or Gary spoken to the press since receiving it? Have they explained their decision at all? Do you think they'll be asked about this? Is this something that they should be asked about?

I'm checking gear. Where do you think this story goes? No tweets in the last five days. So at minimum, he's not proud of the fact that he did this, but wasn't willing to not do it. He tweets about everything, first of all. So there's something there. Onica at Onica 59 has not tweeted in four days.

I think Gary Player got in some shit at the Masters. Gary and Jack both for like, pimping, you know, sponsorship stuff and like trying to sell stuff. And Jack's Twitter account, by the way. Yeah, you want lit him up. Oh, I was your Twitter. I feel like Jack might need to stick to sports.

I can't wait until next April when we go to Augusta National. Let me paint the picture for you here, the National, the National with its rich history. And Mr. Nicholas is there, Mr. Player and Lee Elder, finally, right? Like what a juxtaposition, it's gonna be next April. Oh my God. What a week. Stick to sports Randy, come on. Are we ready to close the book on that chapter? Adam Scott.

Adam Scott. Basically saying like, yeah, you can do whatever you want until like, oh, any of these events, like none of them matter. What was the context? Well, it's the context. That's gonna be, like wait, well honestly, TZ is pretty close there. Uh-huh.

Do you, one of the questions is, do you think this, the PGA tour, is ready for a mixed team event? Adam Scott says, well, yeah, I mean, there's so many events it doesn't matter. That's actually word for word for word. Absolutely, like I said, I think you've got to identify that there's probably 10 or 12 serious competition events

during the calendar year, and then the rest is a bit of entertainment, really. But the thing for all of us and people trying to peak for those 10 or 12 serious events is that they have got to use those entertainment events to get prepared and get ready. So what, so it's finding the balance of your schedule and also for the tour schedule

and what's entertaining and what, how serious it should be taken. A lot there. There's a lot to unpack there. First of all, I threw out a little, a little twerr thread about this, I think, but it was, it's extremely refreshing I think, you know, I think there would be the vast majority of PJ Tore players would probably disagree with him, I think. And I try to send their kids the college. Most events don't matter. Uh, but I

thought it was cool and I applaud him and I want to hear more from him, uh, you know, just to, to really share the like, how a top tier, top, like tip top tier player looks at the current schedule, which is that, yeah, dude, there's, I don't know. I'm thinking about 10 or 12 of these things, but you want me to give a fuck about the Zeroclastic? Like, it's not going to happen, man. I don't know what to tell you.

But I wrote a one team event, the one that's not a 72L struggle. So because you picked out that one, I will say, I don't think he gives a fuck about whether it's, no, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, or a team event, right? He's asked about stable ferd. He says, I think somewhat, somewhat there's not space for 50 stroke play events in the calendar year. I mean, they can't all be serious 72 whole events. What a controversial take. Some of this, of course, about

competition, but it's also about entertainment. And when there's so much of it and the tours got to try and find that balance Which I think what are you trying to say is like listen? I'm trying to get I yes I might show up at the shell Houston open, but that means I'm or I get whatever it is You know that's a bad example because now it's in the fall I might show up at whatever the Valero Texas open. I might show up at the Valero Texas Open, but like, yeah, I don't really want it to be a mixed team thing because I'm like trying to prep for the masters. So if you're going to make these changes,

like you got to kind of decide how much give and take there is between, you know, we are trying to kind of get ready for those biggies. So I don't really know, I would love to hear him expound on it a little bit. I feel like you can leverage the strategic hashtag, strategic alliance for this a little bit. I feel like you can leverage the hashtag strategic alliance for this a little bit.

Hey, we're having a serious event over here. We're having a not so serious event over here. That's true. An entertaining event over here. I know which one I'll be watching. I know which one, Randy, I'll be watching. We're gonna delight you. Love you just say, I know it's been set on this podcast

at Nazim. Just another plea that the president's cup should be, a mixed team event. This is right under our nose. I don't know why there's not more snow gathering on this snowball that I'm trying to push down the hill here, but that's the one. That's it. The problem with that though, is if you kept the same like US versus the world, the world would absolutely beat the shit.

Well, no, because I think everybody, because that's what the Korean women, and that's what the American public wants though. Well, there's that, but also like the Americans are beating the shit out of the international, not as much and it's starting to change a little bit. I think Americans love being the underdog.

Yeah, exactly. I just don't, man, I don't know. I don't get how we'd be messed with the sanctity of the president. I don't get how, do not. With all of these like blowhards, you don't do to air. Maybe they should have the president's cup

at Trump National. Shhh. Oh, the president's cup. They can be a helmet omen at Obama National at Trump National. But I don't get in royal greens as it is in the kingdom. As all these blow-hards continue to,

over the next few years, this is gonna keep being bigger and bigger and bigger topic until something changes. Like yeah, we gotta make changes, we gotta make changes. Until something changes that's gonna keep being talked about, and it's like, man, I don't get how cutting half the guys out of this field and replacing them with a massive appealing audience,

like, you know, the other half of the population would be a bad thing. But in what delightful content, that will probably be my guess. Listening to that other half of guys. Well, you know, it'd be great. They should have, if they don't do it in that event, they should do it in another event where they should,

they have, it's not men versus men and women versus women. You can have women versus men. That's what I'm saying, right? Like, you have 12 people on the team and you do the, you do the, gotta be the matchups the same way, right? Maybe I was just really drunk this night,

but the night that they had the Australian, was the Victorian open, the men, the women's at the same time. And I was just like, it felt like the the Zach Galvanakis, Jeff, of the beautiful mind, when they had these, like the two tournaments weaving in and out, I was like, this is fucking incredible. Yeah, I don't know. Again, I might have just been, you know, intoxicated as I was taking it in, but I think the problem though is like, the dudes don't want to share any of the money. Exactly. But I think the problem though is like the dudes don't want to share any of the money. Exactly. And I think this gets to Adam Scott's point, which is like, you know, so I think the big thing about what he said is I think that's how the tip top players would feel.

But I also think that's how the fans would feel, right? If you pulled most of the fans, I think they would probably land in that. Yeah, there's, you know, 10 or 12 that I watch. And the rest of them, like, yeah, I can kind of take or leave. Maybe people have fantasy golf pools, and maybe, you know, we obviously have a corner of the internet that seems to listen and watch every week, but it's not the whole internet. Like, I think there's a lot more people who don't watch them.

Especially when an internet football is. Yeah, and it's like, God, I just don't get, man, I don't get the downside of doing something like that. Any final thoughts? I got a couple I'd like to, like, to get out John Wood. I thought he was excellent. I don't think this was his debut on telecast, but really the first time I've sat and watched. But he does what I would hope, which is not doing impression of an announcer. He just talks like a catty, gives some good nuggets of like, you know, you can't really feel the wind here. This is always a hard, you know, hard hold a club, somebody on because they elevate blah, blah, blah.

I thought it's, you know, bones is like a lot of play by play stuff, which is probably what he's told to do, but like I think, I thought bones was exceptional this week, but John, he's gotten a lot better. That's better, differently. Really?

I thought he got a lot better. At least today and Friday. I love bones and I wanna love bones as an announcer, and he just is like like really okay for me. Sorry, sorry. It's too much play by play. Like if he did what Wood does, which is just like talk about the player stuff,

that's what I would be. I also think Wood was probably gifted a very, very, very appealing opportunity this week where like going back to QB shootout. Like he's spent a shitload of time with with Harris English, watching Harris, because because Koocher was always Harris English's partner down there.

And like he knows Harris English is game inside and out. But he was think he's probably I mean, he's caddy for so long that he's probably been paired with for sure. For sure, but but but it was a extra comfortable thing this week. But yeah, I mean, even then he was cogent and and informative and tight with it. It was good. I thought he was he did a great job of, like you did all the technical stuff really well,

which I would assume is the hardest part. It was a lot of just laying out when guys were talking, a lot of like challenging the other analysts, like, hey, what did you, what would you do in this scenario? I was like, oh, conversation. That's great. Cause there's a lot of fucking downtime in this. But anyways, I thought he was great.

What, did you have some other notes? I had a few just a couple. I had Bryson hit two 11 a mouse power on the range this week and apparently I had apologized to Hadecki for grunting Really loud while I was doing or something like that? He also got that story was excellent. You hear that? But I missed the big I think I he was yeah, he was grunting on the rage and Hadecki was hit balls next to it, so he had to walk away like as he's walking away He had to apologize like I'm you know, I'm sorry if that was distracting. Can we go back to it?

It was in Sports Illustrated and then he said it in another another weirdo He said something about he's got low T Yes Which is a Telltale Telltale to bed flag. I'm not saying I'm just saying. I can't wait to hear what the little kicker is

on Trud's tweet what he announces that according to sources, I've found out Bryson has been just laying groundwork for him and Hansen Drudson. Just laying groundwork. I'm just saying. He also has been intentionally breaking his central nervous system.

Yeah, and he's been saying. Blacking out. saying blacking out yeah not lacking out almost almost got that i i i there is a there's a there's a there's a i forget who the account is but it's with our account just college football out of context like no context college football and just images and something makes me that there should be one for golf and there's what the the question that Todd Lewis

asked him after the round was you get there did you get there's oh yeah multiple multiple it's like a lot of it's like when you lost. It's like when Porter always tweets about, yeah, completely normal sports. Yeah, exactly. There should be one of those for golf. Also, yeah, after the round Thursday, the shoe horning in asking pack member Ryan Palmer,

whether or not they should make the long tour championship. Yeah, a lot of people have been talking about this. Yeah. Many people have asked me. Speaking of laying groundwork. Yeah. Yeah, if you want to make it a participation event and not the tournament champions,

I thought that was. The best part was Ryan Palmer was like, yeah, I think it's interesting. You know, it's something we got to look at. And I, you know, I can see it being something, you know, blah, blah, blah. And then every analyst, bang, bang, bang, was like, no, that's terrible. I think that's exactly wrong.

I think it should be winners only. Bones, what do you think? I agree. I think it should be winners only. John Wood, what do you think? I agree completely. I think it should be winners only. Not only that, I think here in English,

a lot of people are talking about this. Should refuse to attend next year and give his spot back to Hermi. That'd be huge. That would be big. Hermi couldn't make it. Coach, I want her to take my spot. Hermi got the vid. Couldn't get there.

I had a more cala take. Missed a lot of short puts this week. Not saying, just saying. I don't, you know, it comes and goes. But I think if, he put it, he made a few, like 15, 20, 25 footers today. But if he doesn't, he made a few like 15, 20, 25 footers today, but if he doesn't, he was like negative 1.2 strokes lost per round, I think going into today, like if he's just even average the first three days,

he's leading by two going into today. Going to challenge that one a little bit. He was negative 0.6 strokes gained total for the first three rounds, putting the first three rounds this week. Okay, so maybe I'm just waiting the first round too much. The first hole of the first round, he missed it. But if you project that put out over the over three days, it would not be good. It would not be good. He was 24th in stroke, game putting this up.

He missed a couple of putts inside of five feet. He missed a cavalcade of putts inside of 10 feet. I got a question. What's your take on Hadecki's putting? Because that man lost 9.7 strokes on the greens this week. Oh my God. Last by almost three and a half strokes. How does this guy continue to get a pass for this?

Well, do you have the tier of like, you know, all the distances like where they were ranked? Like inside of six feet. Let's take this offline. We're getting a little lost in the way. I don't have that week by week. I don't encourage you guys to continue this guy. All I'm saying is that if Fort Kawa putted better

inside of nine feet, like he would have won the tournament by like six shots. Like in like just putted decent from inside of nine feet. Like he would have won the tournament by like six shots. Like it and like just put it decent from inside of nine feet. Oh, that was well, I'm saying. If his feet, his feet of putts made this week was 287, right? You can help us translate that. That's a ton. I'll tell you that.

No, I think he made plenty of feet of putts. He's a really good putter outside of like nine or 10 feet, I think. He's just really shitty inside. Maybe he's hitting the ball too close to the pin. Exactly. Many people suffer from that. That makes you think.

JT, I guess JT was 18th in the short game, putting this week, but he had some opportunities. Oh God. So you were gonna give me out of here and into bed. And I'm trying deep in a putting wormhole. But Kenzie Hughes. I had this on my notes as well. Huff scene shot 72, 72 on the weekend.

Finished DFL. That's similar to the 66, 66 to not win. But it's another strain of the Mackenzie. He's strappy shot 67 in the first round and tied for 38. I imagine shooting for under in a tournament and finishing dead last. That's tough. I had a couple notes. It is a champion champions. Couple notes. I know these will be almost Close to Tron's heart. We got acknowledged Patrick Reed showing up on day one and head to toe G4

P4 Let's let's discuss that and then G4 of course comes out says That's very cool, but we do not have to do the exact create. Meaning, I guess he just went online and bought head to toe G. And then embroidered it all with his other sponsors.

So I to be clear, it was not head to toe because he wore a title list hat and is not also not being paid to wear the title list. Right. I saw something that he had shins flints after. He did. Todd Lewis, I saw had that report. shinsplend stuff. He did. Todd Lewis. I saw that report. Quoting Andy Johnson here from the shotgun start, but I mean, think about how wild it is

that a master's champion that recently doesn't like, can't or didn't or hasn't gotten a clothing deal. That's the most unbelievable. Like a guy who very, very well may win the masters this year. He's very good. He's playing well. Like he doesn't have a clone. Not only that, he chooses the apparel, the guy that founded it. Right. Just mission scale.

Tough. It just either is fresh out or still in. Lori Laughlin. Federal penitentiary. I think she just got out. No, I think he's still in Lori Laughlin, federal penitentiary. I think she just got out. No, I think he's still in though. He, where are they both in? Yeah, I thought she went in.

No, I thought she went in too. No. All right, we'll take that offline as well. Last thing, this might mean we're scraping the bottom of the barrel. Big shout out to you. He's having a rough time in prison. That was a three days ago. Floor guy.

Big shout out to Dick Mast, the greatest name in the game. Of course, on the 65 and over division at the quarter century championship, I bring that up because in the 64 and under division, Omar, your SDF is T8. Which, yeah, Dick Mast is only slightly less gummy than Omar. Yeah.

He was probably more successful than Omar as a pro. We can't let you guys out before we have an urban myertake. Oh my gosh. Well Randy said he's gonna move. I'm moving if he comes here. I will challenge you to that. I'm gonna hold you to that.

Disgusting. I can't share a city with him again. Not after Columbus. Can't do it. Urban, what if he's a scumbag? Bad guy. Bad guy. As somebody with no dog in this fight, like I'm excited for it. Like it'll be entertaining. Jacksonville. DJ wants to take his leadership class.

Again, he's gonna. I took him a lot already. I mean, like you've got $80 million in cap space. You got two first rounders, including the first pick with there's a generational quarterback talent and you're gonna make an urban fucking buyer. I want to be very clear about something. I think it'd be a fantastic hire from a football perspective.

I think he's an exceptional football coach. All he has done is win for amazingly everywhere he's been. Yeah, but a lot of that was because of like decidedly better, like more talented teams and like that doesn't really happen in the NFL. Like you have to coach him up. Pardon me though, like can't wait to like see how it plays out though. For sure. Exactly. That's where I'm at.

It's going to be entertaining. Yeah. Yeah. I don't have to love it. But it's going to be. Yeah, but like he's probably going to move, but he's probably going to move to Pona Veeja. He's probably, he can rent. He can rent my apartment. He can't. It's probably gonna move to Pona Veedra. He's probably, he can rent, he can rent my apartment.

It's a gated command. Get a sublet go. Totally furnished. I bet he doesn't buy. He'll probably rent because he's, because he's gonna run with some fake out. Minces, why Shelley's gonna start menacing the beachers area. Where is he gonna join? Is he Pablo? I would assume. I would assume. I would assume. I would assume. Probably. I think you. I would probably. I think you'd play in the Thursday game. Can I ask? I would love to, yeah, maybe

men some fences with you guys. I think there's nothing around a golf pried. Can't fix. Well, I think I need to apologize to Aaron Thull. That's gonna be time. I think we'll get you to bed on that note. So I want to give a shout to the bills too. Thank you. Big win to the bills too. Thank you. Big win for the bills this week. Big win for my uncle, Jesus. Thank you, everyone, for tuning in.

Thank you for a pretty crazy week, fun week. One F one thing, do we mention for staff and girlfriend? The fact that we have him. Sorry, sorry, sorry, I know we're trying to get out. I know we're trying to get out. Talk about a bad guy. The fact that there's every woman truly on earth, and the one that he's picked is Daniel Koviat's baby's mama.

Baby's mama. Yeah, that's wild. And she's 10 years older than him. 10 years older than him. And he's not. He took his spot in the red ball. What a killer. It's love. As I, I don't want to be insensitive, but as I text you earlier this week Randy like that's the kind of shit speed needs to be doing

Yes, and he's I'm not seeing that from see me married I'm saying like the equivalent. Yeah theoretically also one last thing Scotty chef there's three foot broke. Yeah, that was tough. That's tough He was gaming a friendly Calibre. Yeah, so do you think Max makes the kid call him dad yet? I don't know. I don't know. We can talk about that next week. Thank you everybody for tuning in. We'll see you next week. Let's get the right club. Be the right club today.

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