No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 395: American Express Recap, Diamond Resorts, Abu Dhabi

Episode Date: January 25, 2021

Si Woo Kim wins in the desert, Tony Finau does not, Cantlay makes a crazy run, and everything else from Palm Springs. We also chat about the debacle at the Diamond Resorts, European Tour content, and a lot more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm gonna be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Hate that you had to see that today. I hate that. Hate that. Big randies across the table. Man, you're just, you know, just things you hate to see and there's that.

When people let you down, it's no fun. Right, Neil is here. I'm here. I might catch some strays for the pie, man. I'm gonna throw a couple of haymakers his way too. I'm ready to punch all you motherfuckers. Why are you so upset? I don't know. I'm jacked up, man. I wanted to play off. I wanted to hit my DK vet.

The true, the strap boys divided here in terms of wanting a playoff and not wanting a playoff. There's nothing Randy hates more than. Randy had, I had a nice on the, I've played for a playoff, though, which is against your ethos. I know. Seaboo Kim has won the American Express championship. I don't know, remember what it's called anymore, but he won it with the brand new epic speed driver. I bet you guys didn't know that. You should know that. It was all over his bag.

Apex Pro Irons, JAWS wedges, he led the field in Strokes game T to green on the stadium course for this week was eighth in Strokes game putting with the Odyssey 2 lawn Madison, same putter that Kevin Na uses. You can build your own 2 lawn Madison in the 2 lawn garage at Odyssey Golf.com and you can get a bunch of details of the other club he's gotten his bag and the Chrome Soft X Golf Ball at calowategolf.com. No bogies on the stadium course. How does that even happen?

Sheesh. Struck it. Tied for best in the field in total putting as well. So that's pretty, pretty wild. That's pretty impressive, pretty impressive golf that we saw there coming down the stretch. He rolled it well with the Toulon Madison Club. Extremely impressive. Shout out to Palm Springs. You said you didn't know what it's called. It's just the American Express. Not a American Express. The American Express. No championship,

no tournament, no eventational. I kind of like that. V. I like that a lot. American Express. I liked it better when it was, there's like five of them, how's it there? V, Northern Trust, and the, that's true. Whatever. Anyways. It's not all caps though, right? Am I right in saying that?

You are correct, okay. Okay, and that. Which is good stuff. Yes, Seawook came from around eight under 64 upstaged. I would even maybe say upstaged. I know he won the tournament, but Patrick can't lay. Oh my god. Oh my god.

Like, Jesus. The trend stowed. He got the Treadstone. He got the tie. I had one ready for when things were gonna go bad for him, which was just what's his name from the third born. He's like a board, full of board mission, but it didn't. He shot birdies the last whole shoot 61, which looked like it was gonna be enough.

Well, it kind of played in well because he didn't win in the end. Like the assassins, they never win. They never win. The Treadstone guys never win, but you don't want to see them. Look what they mean. You don't want that phone to ring. We, it's like born's like, we have to leave now. Like now we have to leave right now.

Look what they make you give. It's unbelievable. Is, is that makes Seawook him Jason Bord? Cause I don't know if I can't afford with that. I've been thinking about this a lot. Is he a killer? I think the field has killed for sure. With Amnesia.

Yeah. No, I think he has killed. I forgot how to do it for a while. As a whole is Jason Bourne. Just like that again. The whole field is Jason Bourne. Do you know what I'm saying? Like anybody, because like I guess,

or you could say like Bourne wasn't there this week. Like I kind of think DJ's Jason Bourne. Jason Bourne might be just whoever's the best guy out there right now. But I like your macro. It's kind of the PGL golf belongs to no one. Can't lay his never take to that. Can't lay's never out in front.

Like he's never, you know, can't wait to see if can't lay holds on. He always just like comes flying by you. Like Saturday, 64, just it happens. That's how it happened at Augusta. It just comes and he comes hard. Well, so a guy on the refuge, our message board, live Adam said, he might not be Tredstone,

he was put in the black briar. Black briar. Just like the... That's the ultimatum. Tredstone got shut down, but then they started at the black briar. And I mean, I think he was under a black briar playbook. I gotta rewatch these.

I gotta rewatch these. I just did. You just get to watch them. Very top of mind for me. I know. I need to get on board. It's very worthwhile. I mean, know. I need to get on board. It's very worthwhile.

I mean, stats. So 20 birdies on the weekend. So you called out on Twitter. Three whole short of completing the 36-hole birdie challenge. Are you serious? We should start with the fact that, of course, he... Well, we should get back to see who came. Let's not forget to go back to that.

But we should start with the fact that Patrick can't make the cut on the number. Yes. Which we should talk about that, about how absurd it is that they change the cut, like the number of people that make the cut because they can't get everyone around a golf course in time.

And you can literally win a tournament. I mean, he didn't, I know, but you can win a tournament from the cut line, which is... That probably has absolutely nothing to do with par-fives now being par-fours and everybody having to wait on every single par-five. I'm sure that has nothing to do with the ball going too far.

No, that's an incredible reach on your end. You're gonna have to apologize to that later. I think I heard it passing on the broadcast on 11 that can't like group was on the clock. Yeah, which means nothing, of course. Yeah, but relevant here because clearly they're not playing quick. Not even the guy that's like by far having the best round, the lowest amount of strokes. I mean, they're not playing quick, right? Not even the guy that's like, by far, having the best round, the lowest amount of strokes. I mean, they're just not, they're not moving.

I feel, I thought it, so whoever, they said that and whoever was falling the group, like dove on the grenade for Cantlay is like, it's not Kale, he's falling, he's not the one playing slow, because I, it's just the easiest low hanging fruit for people to reach for. But Kale also had like 21 puts. No, so it was Sunday. It's been a minute. He had 15 of 18 greens, 23 puts, and of course everyone's favorites that.

Oh, Randy. 152 feet of puts made. Do you know how long? Do you know how, like that's so long? I'm truly, I mean, do you have any reference for that? Like could you give me, what do you think is 150 feet long? That's 15 basketball hoops, Neil. There you go, that's perfect.

It's true, one and a half basketball courts. That's like, what else would it be? It's half a football field. It would be, yeah. No, that's, no. That's right, yeah it is. Yeah. I'm actually making a second of this.

It might be an indictment of his iron play though too. Yeah, it was always, it was second in Stroke stroke skin approaching the green today. Kind of wild to shoot 61 and miss three greens, honestly. But 23 puts, I don't, I mean, forget the feet of putts, mate. That's very few. That's so awesome. Well, then he walk off and say,

I literally forget the feet. That's as good as I can play. He had 47 putts over the entire weekend. Like I think I've come close to 47 putts in a round. For sure, no doubt. That is absurd. But yes, C. Wilkin, I'm fine around 64. Walked that one in on 17, by the way. Randy, what did you feel today? Did you did anything jump off the off the screen at you today? I came over. We were early back nine.

I came over from the NBC telecast, which we'll get into in just a bit. And I was real curious. I know we'll get to him. How our boy Tony was doing. But I didn't even check. What did he do? No, I was gonna ask Sully, but was he in the final group or the second last group? I saw the T times.

You two, Neil? I was just wondering if I can't remember. I didn't, couldn't see what he was playing with. No, but here's, here's, uh, Say Woo Kim, the biggest takeaway. Love seeing the live under par. Logo on his sweater. Hell yeah. That was cool. It lives on. That's all I got for you, so.

Okay. Do you want to just do a few now? No, I mean, I mean, I'm trying to think if there, I want to give Say Woo Kim is due because he did come out in the final round and this maybe, you know, maybe leads into the Tony stuff, but in the final, in the final group, seeing what Cantlet was doing ahead

of them, Bogey Free, Eight Burdies, Burdies on what, 15, 16, 17 to basically shut it. And awesome shot, or just 16, 17, sorry. Awesome shot into 18, just awesome T-shot. That's such a hard T-shot and nails on the T-shot, nails on the approach into the green. I mean, that was, it was impressive. I was pulling for Cantley, obviously,

after seeing what he did, but it's good stuff by C. Wukim. First win since the players. Exactly. Two things still got to me. The third win overall, I believe. The bounce. Fire and no smoke.

He got into 16 on a second shot. Yes. Above the, you know, the milk cart and bunker down there. Really soft, soft bounce going left there. And then, but then he made the most of it, which was awesome. And then 17, like what a putt, he got a nice little read from Max.

A big time read from Max. And juxtaposed the bounce he got on 16 it felt like like with Max had a, I can't remember what first par five on the back. He came up like, or he clears the bunker. It bounced straight up and then back in the bunker. It's just like, man, it's a max, you know, didn't play well but couldn't get a break.

But that fist pump on 17, it was like, all right, he's got it, he's in. Yeah. So, and one other thing I'd like to call out, like, you know, I think, so when I were talking about this, his post-round interview. Do it in English.

Do it in English,, mad props, man. I cannot imagine trying to speak another language on national TV. And I think at the players, when he won there, I think he did it in Korean. And even the media day the next year, he was not speaking English publicly. And to do it, come off the course, Emotions high, like, try to gather your thoughts and speak a different language that is not your native language, that, you course, emotions high, like try to gather your thoughts and speak a different language that is not your native language,

that you're still learning. It takes a lot of comfort to do that. I'm saying he doesn't have the comfort there. It's not there and to still do it is, I don't know if he just didn't have an interpreter there this week or what that situation was, but I really respect that.

Totally. I think you hit on it perfectly. Like the emotions, think about how many guys walk off the green and are, you know, can't get words out in their own language because they're trying. Right. You know, it's like, super impressive. To that point too, like imagine trying to be the, you know,

best golfer in the world. And then try, I mean, trying to learn a language on the side. Like I just can't even... A lot of time while you're traveling probably. Maybe that's a good time to do it. I don't know. But it should, I've just add that to the, like of stuff you got to do on top of your golf game. So yeah, as you said, tons of respect for that.

Possibly he's getting some reps on cameo. Also, one of the few PJ tour players like. Yeah, hell yeah. Yeah, we should think it turned one around for us tonight. No offense to see Woo Kim, no offense to anyone. Uh, absurdly expensive. It's like 160 bucks. Oh my God.

Woo Kim. Petey fucking Pablo was like 40 or 50. So that would be my one. You heard it says, awesome. You would hope the market would correct that. Well, I think it's only a big Korean market. Yeah, it might be. It could be a big Korean market.

You could be totally right. Yeah, maybe I'm being too xenophobic about this. Nationalistic, American, typical, hand up, close world view from you. Yeah, you guys could be right. Well, Neil, you mentioned Max can get a break today. I'd sorry, you know, somebody else can get a big break. Should we talk about him? Sure.

Do you want to just apologize again? No, the bet is still open. Well, I won't buy today. What's the bet? The bet was that he was going to win twice before the end of 2020. COVID threw a little wrinkle in it. So we pushed it to the end of the West Coast swing. So going to need a little miracle. We're going to need still think it was three times that we could be it was twice. You guys

keep trying to first of all, the bet was never in my favor. So I'm not even trying to change it. Honestly, I know what you want. Yeah, you brought that up. We didn't care what the bet was. That was unsolicited from you. 100% of the bet was unfair. That's doubling down. I think he's gonna win twice before the end of the whole. I was coast-wing. I am not giving up on my bet.

That's all that has left. I'm not giving up on my bet. I would have loved, the only way this will work is if you win the last two. That would be the greatest bet moment in no-lingup history. That would be unbelievable. That would be unbelievable. My hat would be off, but let's start with today.

Okay, let's put one foot ahead of the other. Just talk to me about what you saw today. Talk to me about the emotions. Yeah, I'm thinking. The ride. I don't think I'm gonna do it, but there's been a lot of pressure to release our group text to the Washington Post.

Just some of the things you were throwing out there, some of the things I was throwing out there that seemed pretty prescient, looking back. You know, you're, I was saying as soon as he made par, I think it was number five, right? As soon as he didn't birdie that par five, I was like, oh, baby, this is how it starts. And you said, oh my god, he's birdie two of the first five. You guys are actually like, he's collapsing. We're getting, we're fine. We're fine.

Text, oh we're fine. I want to commend you, DJ, for your growth. They were points last year when you would have been really nervous through like five holes today. And you would have been texting me like, Randy, I don't like this., is today, and I, I did it in a moment of weakness. I sent a group text, I said,

guys, I said, Tony looks good. Tony looks good today, after he made the birdie on what was at 10, but I said, God, he does look good. But you never panicked. I never panicked. And you trusted the process. Exactly.

And in this the year of our Lord 2021, tons of respect for you. Thank you, that's cool to hear. I don't know why you guys thought, I never even brought this up that today was gonna go any differently. On Friday, you guys, oh, Fino's in the mix, it's gonna be brilliant.

And I was like, yeah, he's in the mix right now. This wasn't any different than any of the other shots he's had at it. It wasn't like he blew a four shot lead. It wasn't like, oh, this is the one, he's got a win. This is the big important thing. What did Datagolf say? What did the percentages say?

Should this one have gone his way or not? It would be one of the highest ones it's been. Was there some 52%? Was there some vicious stink that got involved that skewed the data? Implicitly, you needed today to be the one to be one of them. He wouldn't need to shoot 64 today to win. Just so we're clear. Just so we're clear, which he did not, but who was playing with him?

Did, yeah. Yeah. Someone else went out and shot 61. Of course it was out there today, but he was, he gained 2.6 shots on the field today alone. He shot six feet. And didn't even come close to winning. The 10th best round on the golf course today

from first place. So when is he gonna see the expectations on Sunday? When is that gonna come? I don't know. That's a, I will throw this actually. That's a compelling stat. That is, that's a compelling defense. But the problem, what's the, what's the quarter,

Kyle Porter tweet? He started the final round five time, or in the top five or oh, yeah Top five I think what this is 19 times without a win and it's like dude. It's Listen, maybe he's the most unlucky guy in the history of the planet or maybe just Like gas to a couple three footers and I didn't play good enough to win I'm glad he didn't play good today Like great today because he probably probably still wouldn't work down his favor Like he what happened around him today was not good. Now, he also

didn't play good enough tough combination. Sure. Probably not going to work out. It's not going to go your way. It's really not. I don't chalk this one up. I was like, oh, man, he should have had this one. This was really the one. He had his opportunities and the putter looked extremely shaky at times today. And he, but he was still barely, didn't even lose a full shot to the field in putting today, which I think it seems, more for me. Again, all this is not database, this is very, you know, the I.C.s what it seems, but it's like, it seems so repeatable where it's, he always has a good start, he always comes out hot, and he gets up, you know, gets a couple shot lead, gets comfy, and then he

just fucking slams it in a neutral and it just It's the same every single time. He's not a killer. I think that's not a killer. What holder do you miss the Probably a lot of no the short putt was for maybe no, no, no, it was like I thought was like 10 or 11 Oh, he meant well he missed a couple, but there was one that but that moment is where you're just like Well, no, it's the one where you miss a room. It was so dated a point to like, dude, that's the one. It was the one where he missed the really short birdie putt. Yes. I think it was four maybe.

Or 11. And then the first part, five was for par. Yeah. So then he blew up. After he hit it in the water. Yeah. So that, that to me is like, I don't know how you can put data around like just the moment in the round of like, you know,

we can go either way a little bit right in the middle. And he just, like, I feel like that's a, you know, song on repeat for Tony. I was thinking about this a little bit, because I knew of course, of course there's gonna be some grave dance that going on today, and I wanna clarify, this has really Tony's an innocent bystander in this whole conversation, this really has nothing to do with Tony.

I'm gonna explain why in a second. He is just the symptom of, he's just the symptom of why I'm finding it harder and harder and harder to watch PJ Twork Golf, which is, dude, if you're not gonna give an edge to anybody or say out loud, any of the real things that are going on, then I just gotta cling to any kind of storyline I can possibly find. And it's like, I was thinking about it in terms of any other sport. And golf has seemed to think...

When you... Let me interject to get some clarity for you. When you say not talk about what's going on, what do you mean? Like the fact that he has been fucking terrible around the lead. Like nobody, every time you watch it, it's taken almost 20 times. We've been saying this for like two years. It's taken almost 20 times. We've been saying this for like two years. It's taken almost 20 times of seeing this to where commentators are just barely kind of now being like, you know what, be really good if he'd played well

in this back then. He could really, this is really where it would help him a lot to play well. And you saw the story on PJTWORT.com this week that's like, yeah, he hears what you're talking about. It's like, come on, man, like this is, this has been so under our nose. If this was any other sport, this would have been talked about nonstop.

For somebody who has been in the Hunett majors, who's been on Ryder Cup teams, Presidents Cup teams, all this stuff, like he is a marquee player. And it's just like, he doesn't win, it's wild. And so where I keep coming back to is golf. It's a fluffer. Golf has seemed to like build its business model around this idea that it can just,

it's okay if they think fans are showing up and turn on the TV and just being like, man, I hope everybody wins today. I can't wait to see who wins because I want them all to win. And it's like, that's not how anybody consumes anything in the whole world, right? Class X.

There's gotta be favorites and it's a zero something, I think. For there to be a favorite, it's a fucking competition. For somebody to win, somebody else has to lose. And like, that has to be okay to talk about and to watch and to think about. And it's just, they get paid very handsomely in order for us to make cheap shot jokes about this kind of thing. You know what I mean?

It's just, that's what it represents to me. Pymant, I love everything about that. I will say this though, the PGA Tour social media team did get, they did get involved very interesting. With a big graphic. A lot of graphics have been floating on screen now there's no hiding from this now 34 top tens without a win the most by any pga professional Tommy Fleetwood is actually in second was 16 top tens without a win and I think it was was Louis Ustazen And there's another guy we can talk about.

But I've been very vocal on that block as well. Talk about a guy who doesn't win. Yeah, so, and there are a couple other guys on that list, but my point being just maybe they're starting to say something. Maybe they're gonna make it a storyline. Maybe they're searching for one too. Maybe part of this gets back to it.

It always comes back to this, but maybe part of this comes, God, people are gonna roll their eyes so hard. Part of it almost comes back to speed. Listen. Almost comes back to speed, where it's like, dude, if you're gonna shit on my guy's speed, look at these fluffers that don't do anything. Man, at least he's gone and done something.

You know what I mean? It's just, I, what I followed you on that one. You know what I'm saying? That like, listen, has speed took, speed took so much more in print. Oh my God. It's horrible. What's wrong with speed? And even Ricky. Ricky does the same thing. It's God, it's horrible. What's wrong with speed? And even Ricky, Ricky does the same thing.

It's like, dude, at least Ricky's fucking done it. He's won a couple, man. It's just, I don't know. Randy, have anything to say about that? And so what I'll, he's right. What I'll finish out with. He's not out in a fluffing class of his own. Like, you're exactly right.

Ricky's won five times more than Tony Fino. And it all comes back to like, it's nothing against Tony. It seems like a great guy. Everybody, I've literally never heard one bad thing about him. I hope he breaks through, solid. I hope he does win the last two events of the West Coast swing. That would be phenomenal content.

But it's like in the absence, okay, let me put it this way. Jeff Shacklford wrote something that really, really resonated with me recently, where he was talking about how in a post tiger world There is no superstars in golf and golf itself can debate that by pretending like there are but there aren't and I think we see that on like a a week to week basis Here's quick interjection there Brooks Keppga can go miss the cut On a week like this and nobody cares. No one cares.

No one cares. We may be in that post tiger world with a fifth back surgery. Very good. And too, it brings back the spieth. Like spieth was the one hope to at least give us that superstar. And so Jeff's point was the only superstar that there is is the four majors, right? And so in the absence of any of those superstars to like, you gotta do something to get me to care

on a week to week basis. And it's like looking at that leaderboard other than, you know, having a very, very close personal friend in the final group, which I don't think is realistic for everybody watching the telecast. It's like, I have no reason to watch other than like, God, this finaw guy guy just can't get it done. Like, let's see what happens with that.

He's like, I don't really care about anything else that's going on on this leaderboard. Is that fair or unfair? Completely fair. I think it's spot on. That's a lot, but that's what Fienaul means to me. God, I love you. Thank you.

You didn't even have time to lunch at the top. You didn't even have to mention football. The AFC and the AFC and FC Championship being on. Like what real reason was there to tune into that? Can I add one more thing, complete, completely off, but it's phenol related. I get very, I get like agita with his low top nighties, especially with the ankle situation that the masters. He looks like his shoes aren't tight enough.

And like for a... Could be an issue. Big guys, you know, he's swinging it pretty fast. I just wish he'd wear like some shoes that look like they were, they fit. They don't look, it looks like he's wearing top-siders out there. It's crazy. I think he's right, like jogging down the tee box

and I'm like, he's gonna roll a sequel again. I kinda like those shoes. I looked at them buy it though, but there's gotta be... I don't think I could, cool. But he has the short pants though too, so you see the ass, I think my video should. I would have to think though, him not getting it done for, let's say like the first 20 times,

which is insane to say. Like that, that not going his way, like a mixture within that of things, not going your way and poor play. It is impossible to ignore that anymore. Like even if nobody's talking about it yet, like fuck man, another shot at it. Damn, it didn't work again.

Another shot. Man, I really gotta start taking advantage of these. Didn't work again. How do you not think about that over every shot? Dude, it's impossible. Ever, like for sure. Now we're 34, 35 times into this. Like how does it, how do you get past it?

How do you change something? And it is definitely a thing, like for him, no matter how many times he says it, now he's actually getting asked about it, it is gonna be impossible to ignore. He's gonna have to go out and boat race a field by six. Otherwise this is gonna keep happening. I don't wanna sound super insensitive,

like I am sympathetic to that, like that's super interesting. But, you know, in the absence of really anything else to kind of like latch on onto, it's like, well, also, it gets run. If they would ask him more about it and give him an opportunity to be vulnerable about it, then I would be.

Maybe talks about it with the leg- I think they had. Well, I don't feel like I get that from him. Of like, he's not getting put, like you're saying about speed. He's not getting put on the spot. I feel like we're just scratching that it right now. Yeah, just finally, right?

Before, it was like,, you just off the hook, always got so much potential. Oh, this is almost like Phil not winning a major for so long. And I think that's the, and Phil got roasted for that. And I think this kind of comes back to one very important word you said there, which was major, right? Like maybe nobody, maybe just like the week-to-week golf media, which is dwindling,

and that's a hard job in itself for a million other reasons we can talk about. But I mean, maybe they're just kind of going through the motions at this point to where it's like, you know, maybe nobody really outside that core seems to give shit kind of, is the vibe I seem to get more and more week after week. I still go back to this conversation. It may not have lasted a year if this would have been the case, but the misplaced hate at the waste management is where this whole thing started. Between me, Defini, yes.

We can go back and listen to that. Okay. I said, listen, Webb came and got it from him that day. No, you threw your hands up after that week. Like, that just can't get it done. He can't get done. He didn't get it done. Right, but that was the case was like, dude, like,

he never gets it done. I think I did concede this was the time. Like, yeah, after like 30 minutes of arguing, you're finally like, yeah, I mean, web the, probably, listen, if you want to hang your hat on like, you know, over these last 20, that was the one, the one L that I had to take, sure, I'll take the L.

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There's a lot of time to kill in that broadcast today. And as he's just hitting puts on the 18th green, they're like, you know, he's overcome so much adversity in his life and injuries and everything. And I just wanted to like jump through the screen. I was so upset. Like we can talk about the adversity. That's a told different topic.

But a constant thing is how he has to go to the golf course like four hours before his tea time. To get, we're talking morning tea times too, to get stretched, to limber up, to get his back ready to play. That's how serious his back injuries were, how many years he had washed out of his career, overcome and debilitating back injuries,

and just to wash over that, and that's that second of just like, yeah, you know he's been injured. It's like people don't know that story, like tell that story. Dude, that, sorry, I've been talking a lot, but one more thing, the fix for that, I think, is like, just take one camera, one time,

and go with him into the equipment trailer, produce one, like, awesome feature, right? And I know they're running low on resources probably and all that stuff, but like holy shit, man, how impactful would that be to actually see him? I'm so with you, see him getting up at 4 in the morning, driving to the golf course, getting stretched out. And just like a timeline of all the shit he has to go through would talk about like creating favorite players and all of that stuff. God, that would resonate so much more because exactly what you're saying is the whole telecast just gets so flattened to, you know,

oh, Max had a tough round today like man, he's really, you know, he went through some adversity today. Oh, Patrick can't lay lost five years of his career. Man, he's really, he's gone through some adversity. It's like, dude, these words don't fucking mean anything. Patrick, Patrick, Patrick, Patrick, all of you came a lot of adversity. Well, especially a lot of adversity. A guy like Cantler who doesn't show a lot of

adversity. We don't talk about that one. So much adversity. Cantler doesn't show a lot of emotion. And so you're looking to make this guy a superstar. He's in the top 10, you know, if you're FedEx cup standings and you're talking about him a lot and he's on the billboards. Well, like, find something interesting. Show me, like, build a store, like, tell me a story about him. Like, he's not going to do that for you. He doesn't have to best amateurs of all time. I don't know what there could be like Interesting to talk about well, but you know I'm trying to say like kidding. Yes. There's a big man They're just they they rely on somebody that's fiery or I think somebody that like make make it a specific group of people

Hiked up. I think like it's just come on man like might get a specific group of people hyped up. I think like it's just, come on man. Like dig just a little bit deeper. I'm so with both of you on this. It's straight up bullshit. This goes to just, it's almost being like embarrassed of the golf aspect of what you're talking about. You know what I mean?

It's like what you said, they were gonna default to max is so, he's a riot on social media. It's like dude, Patrick Cantley is one of the best golfers in the world and I'm watching a golf telecast, explaining me why he's so riot on social media. It's like, dude, Patrick Cantley's one of the best golfers in the world, and I'm watching a golf telecast, explaining me why he's so good at golf. And like, what does he do that's so different? What does he do that Cameron Davis doesn't do?

You know what I mean? Like set the stage for why this guy's so good. Despite having these back issues. And they just like, damn, paint me the picture. It just seems like the PJ Tour in general. And maybe this is a, well, I'm sure we'll talk about the Euro Tour later, but I hadn't watched the Euro Tour in a while.

DVR the coverage from Abu Dhabi this morning, I was watching that, and it's crazy how much more confident they are in just like, oh, you know what? You're watching this golf, you're probably a golf fan, we're gonna talk to you like you're a golf fan. Whereas every PJ Tour tele cast just seems so surface level and just afraid to get into like the nitty gritty of it. Fucking anything.

Like I get the millennials. Well guess what, but they're not showing up, man. We could just, though, but just get those, maybe they'll accidentally, maybe they'll accidentally wander in, we can hook them. The Mike Wann podcast this past week, while it's not PJ Tort related,

kind of threw me for a loop in terms of, you know, I asked him kind of why, why LPJ events finish opposite PGA tour events? Like, why can't you find a different window and we'll watch both of them? And he was kind of in the mind of like, no, no, when people sit down to watch golf, like they watch golf, like we're not going to try to make you sit down twice to watch it. We're better off trying to get you flipping back between the two broadcasts than we are on our own. Tough week for the LPGA to have that message, but we'll get there.

We'll get there. That kind of freaked me out. Is this my go time? Not quite yet. Okay. That freaked me out. That freaked me out. That freaked me out.

Because it was more like, oh, and this is like one of the more thoughtful guys, but like, oh, they don't actually care about like getting us. They just like want the numbers to say a certain thing to that so they can go to their sponsor. And so like, yeah, they don't care if the good, like the hardcore fans follow it for the golf reason.

They are just trying to like hook you, even if it's for a little bit, just trying to get you in in some way, you know. So this was one of the things I was gonna say about the the Fiena thing and, and oh my gosh, I hope everybody wins and everybody's a class act is, I feel like they have just gotten away with that and who knows, maybe it was like this before, you know, in the Nicholas days and the Fowl-do days and everything else.

But I feel like they've just gotten such a free role with Tiger where it's like, oh, you know, everybody's going to tune in to watch Tiger and if we try really, really hard, that number's not really gonna change. If we try not at all, that number's not really gonna change. So we'll throw it up and we'll pick, we'll cherry pick some good stuff. Let's get it. Pretend like we're, you know, pretend like we're doing

some good stuff. Those aren't the days anymore. Like that is not gonna happen anymore, I guess, is what I'm getting at and it's like, dude, all you're doing is just infuriating hardcore golf fans who are like, man, why is none of this stuff happening? Yeah. I felt like that more this weekend than I have in a really long time, which was just like,

man, why is anybody watching this on like a Thursday, Friday Saturday? I had a fun time watching the back nine on Sunday, that was great, but like, I don't why the fuck you would watch it on a Friday afternoon. It's horrible. Specifically this week had something to do with. Is it not? Did you watch a lot of it? Oh.

The venue, this event specifically, I think you could say that about a lot of weeks, but this one just feels lost especially without fans. Like I had a real eerie feeling looking at Palm Springs in this course with no fans. It looked like an abandoned theme park to me. Like, it's a place that like shouldn't be there. It's like out of place.

It's like drive through the suburbs. Oh, there's an abandoned six flags. Like something that they did. It's like, you know, messed up and they, you know, went bankrupt or whatever. Like, the one in New Orleans, they got like flood and they never opened it back up. Austin photos. Because this, this tournament to me is so, and basically listening to like the trap draw preview, it's basically the venue

for a giant party. Like that's just like waste management is. It's like, oh, this is, you know, it's like a pro-am. It's just, everybody's just getting bombed and trying to see somebody shoot 59. Like that's what it's known for. It's a birdy bananza, and these guys are supposed to just tear it up out there.

With no fans, it's just like, what are we doing here? And what is that doing here? Like, it's bright green in the middle of the desert. Like, I'm just having a lot of like, what is going on questions when I'm watching it? And so, then you pair that with the fact that, like, they're not telling any golf stories. And I'm like, what am I, I am a little bit like,

what am I watching? It's like, I'm watching something just like, very fake in every way. Like, manufactured drama, basically. I'm almost, I'm like only 95% confident that this is the same golf course that the stadium course, PJ West, that was like way too hard when it opened

and all the players bitched. I'm afraid to even say that because I don't even recognize it as that. And the fact that that could be the case right that this was all the players bitch so badly about this course that a rider cup was supposed to be there and the players hated it so much that they moved it to Kiwa along with other reasons. Now is like one of the easiest ones on tour, one in part because technology just obliterated

that place. And two, they must have softened it in so many ways that it's unrecognizable from when it opened. And it just like that, I look at that course and I'm like, that is a nightmare course for me. Like none of that looks comfortable for me. And at the same time, it is so easy for those guys to just like, like they don't miss, they don't miss left on 18.

They don't hit it in the water in the island green. Nobody in contention has to deal with any of these hazards. And it just becomes this, like, miss a fairway and it just ball randomly ends up in some weird ass overseas at the bottom of a hill that you have a perfect angle in. It doesn't appear to be like rhyme or reason between certain spots on the golf course you wanna be.

It just like doesn't, and maybe it is there in person, but on TV it does not shine through. So is it, it's not a direct, obviously not an exact replica of the stadium course, but is there like a written thing where it's like this is what like Pete Dives just taken inspiration from the stadium course. I think it's more like the, I think as I understand it's more like has to do with the spectators like all the mounds are built up so that it's like a stadium people can see down and you know it's like stadium

and then 17 18 you know they did a good job in the broadcast, juxtapose in the two, and then also calling out the CW Kim, you know, that was fast. We and I thought that was all very good. And it was cool to see them side by side. The other thing what you're saying is all like with the overseed, if you're going to be the green oasis course in the desert, like if you're going to be basically the showcase of, along with waste management, like golf in the desert and during the West Coast swing, I thought there were some real scruffy looks out there.

Like I thought some parts that course looked really, really bad. They were expanding on like eight or nine. They had like, like, same, like, it just was like, man, that doesn't, like if your identity is gonna be that desert oasis, that's a tough look. I missed kind of what they were taught,

they did talk about it, but they were expanding some of the greens, I think, and that was some of the new expanded parts didn't take very well, and they didn't get it prepared in time. And the guy, the players didn't seem to have much trouble with it. I think it probably looked a lot worse on TV than it probably did, you know, affected play. And person would be my guest, because I didn't hear a lot of complaining about it. Yeah, but I saw the expanded greens, but even the rough to me, like some spots, it just looks so,

like I guess fake is the right word, where it's like so bright green in the fairway and then just brown and like, it just was, it wasn't my favorite look, I guess. I'm done trying to hold Brandy back if we're ready to move on from the MX. Cameron Davis has an incredible golf swing and he had his best week as a professional. That was cool to watch. But tough one for our friend Max. Yeah. Yeah, we should talk about that.

We should be pretty self-effacing about that. Obviously not. It was not good. Total bummer. Total bummer. Hard to watch. Hard to watch. And I, you know, God, I just hope he takes a lot of good stuff

from the first three days and grinding. But sometimes I think, you know, he was tied for the lead with a triple and a double. You know, it's like, he just kind of ran out of the magic a little bit, right? Like he might not have had, he might have had too many loose shots all week and he was just covering it up a little bit.

So was this his first final round? Sunday final round? First ever time he's played on a Sunday? In the final group. Oh, in the final group, Sorry, in the final group. He was finally, well, as far as I go. Well, as far as I go. Yeah, I think he was the last guy.

I think he was in the final group. Okay. Well, point being, you know, he doesn't have a ton of reps in this spot. So, you know, good, good experience. I think he'll have much he can take away from it. But yeah, selfishly it was, it was disappointing. Yeah, his numbers for the week, I'm kind of curious as to how he ended up so high up on the leaderboard to begin with.

He was 50th in Strokes game, T-Degrean, 18th in Pudding. I guess he had a great round on the at the other course that was not tracked on stat tracker or whatnot. Well, he didn't seem to like him throwing his golf balls in the lake. I just it's so funny. Like, would you throw them in the lake? I don't throw balls in the water I have before, but I don't do it as frequently as pros do it. And they probably feel like such a badass

when they throw them in. And on TV it just never looks. I don't know, he did it on a, Max is on a TV. He did that look like you felt badass. He just felt like he wanted to jump in the lake himself. Trevor M.A. had an interesting point. That would have been, that would have been sick. You know, he said, you know,

Max is so fun loving on social media. He's probably too serious on the golf course. And it was probably contributing to the round four fade, which certainly a take. I'm on the edge on that side. I'm on the edge on that take too. I do if Max would say that. I do think he would say like, not too serious.

Like it's not like he's too locked in, but I think he does like beat the shit out of himself on the golf course, you know. I think- Wait, just the day before I got off the course and said like, like all the things he's doing, like trying to be grateful, like show he had a great attitude and tries to, you know, six or seven times just said three things,

like out loud to myself that I'm grateful for, blah, blah, blah, and that was just what made it weird, was that. But I think that is a new development. I think that comes probably from, I don't know. I think maybe Trevor was slightly onto something in that like, you know, those changes aren't just for fun. Like I'm sure he's changing those things because, you know, for a reason.

So. I have a hard time just telling a professional to be less serious though. Like, just because you're fun-loving on social media, doesn't mean like that is what's gonna work for you on the golf course. And I think Max probably knows that. I thought the comment was kind of like out of,

because he went back to it later in the telecast, but he also related it back to his career. He's like, I was a tough guy to be, like I was too hard on myself. So there was a little bit of him relating there, which I think he's got some credibility there. And also like with Max, the gratitude stuff that he was talking about, one,

I thought that interview was awesome. And like God God, can we just get, like, seriously, more guys like Max, like saying real stuff and interviews, like, that was delightful to watch. And two, it's a test right there of like establishing that habit and continuing to do that, like when it's hard, right? Like, so I think today was probably a good thing of like, like, you got a taste of that working in Friday, Saturday, and then Sunday he might have, you know, it might have just been too hard to overcome and just didn't have it.

And hopefully in the future he can stick to it. And I got no issue with them trying to unpack, you know, why a round is going very poorly or anything like that, just because he's a friend of our, like that is what they should be doing. That's not my point. It was just kind of like, I don't think it's just as simple as being like, be less serious

out there when you're trying to win a golf tournament on Sunday in the final pairing. But anyways, all right. I think that's a wrap from AMX. Randy, why don't you take us to the Diamond Resorts on the LPGA tour. DJ, how about that pulpit? I'm coming up. Randy's been like, you know, the Olympic swimmers when they hang out in that kind of like lukewarm tub. For a while, that's very, very, very, very,

the divers, he's got this squishy towel. I'm laughing my arms like my health. All right, next up, big Randy. Hop on up here, bud. Guys, season opening LPJA event, the Diamond Resorts Classic down in Orlando. It is like their tournament of champions, very limited field this year.

I think there were 25 players. Golf Channel coverage all week, and then afternoon, late afternoon coverage on NBC Saturday. Sunday, I'm here to tell you, that's the worst golf broadcast I've ever seen in my life. No hyperbole. No hyperbole. No hyperbole. The worst.

Full stop. And I want to draw a distinction. It wasn't the folks I was listening to on the broadcast. It was purely the folks that were making the decisions about what I was seeing on the broadcast. Before you get too hard on that, Ryan, I'll also say the structure of the tournament worked against them from a television perspective. Like, whatever flow they had going between celebrities and players and the wait times that had to happen,

ruined, it put them behind the eight ball for how that product was going to be presented. Okay, so let's talk about it. It's a celebrity, again, a celebrity pro-AM field. So, the way they structured it, they had the final threesome of professionals as the final group on the course, and then the group immediately in front of them were the final three celebrities,

or the top three celebrities. Which Josh Scoe was one of them with a no-lang update. Let's put it in the video. Who were grinding in metal play? Correct, stable for it. But they're playing on their own, they're playing with... No, there are three some on their own in front of a three sum of LPGA players behind them.

Which if they're gonna be on the golf course is maybe good to not, you know, I hate when, like at the Palm Springs event, when C. Woo Kim's coming down the stretch, trying to win a golf tournament, and he's also got his amateur partner in the group with the Goldbergs. Check it out to crowd of throwing guys in the lake.

So here's what NBC. Who's next? Here's what NBC, I mean, you could just tell. Here was what they had. They showed every shot from the final group of women crying in the court of sister. Kang and Jessica and Ellie Corta. And then they also showed not every shot, but the only real other group that they showed

hitting golf shops was the group of media in front of them, which were three ex-athlete men. Marty Fish, the 2004 silver medalist in some sport. I mean, we were dead in a skateboarding. And the tweet about And the Tedious player. He wasn't that Idiot girl. And I'll have you

know I love Marty fish. I mean, the guy wrote one of the most impactful stories about overcoming anxiety on the player's Tribune. Like if anybody has never read that, uh, he's awesome. Um, and this is where the, the

production of this broadcast just put everybody in a horrible spot. And so what happens is, you know, they had a couple of hard cameras to like 18, which is a part three. They obviously had a hard camera there. Do you know what a hard camera is? No, but I think it's just a stationary camera, right? I don't know to our friend, Jay. Who Thomas is that?

Yes. And that's the only time you saw an LPJ player outside of that final threesome was them putting out on 18 And so what you had was okay Let's show Jessica Danielle and Nelly they hit their drives, right? Okay, we're gonna go to a commercial break for four or five minutes and then we're gonna come back We're gonna show you a couple of the celebrity shots on tape. Maybe it's a fun interview Mike Flasky. Or, you know, we'll check in with Aaron Hicks again. Maybe Roger Clemons is singing. Toby Keith. I'm doing a duet.

And so then it's Nelly Danielle Jessica. Hit their approach shots. We're going to commercial. And then you come back and you rinse repeat. And it just, it, it it you were watching so many commercials and here's my problem with it. You know one of the one thing I've gathered from talking to some of the people we've gotten to know and hanging around the tournament right is and nearly to your point exactly with Patrick Cantlay and the PJ tour right. The job should be how do we build fans? How do we show off these people's personalities, their stories, you know, how do we make it impactful for viewers, new viewers, etc. Especially when you have a tournament that's only full of tournament winners. So you're 25 of your better. Just.

L.A. players. Yeah. And so, no, we're going to ignore 22 of them. We're going to focus on Danielle Jessica Nelly, which again, bare minimum. Like thank God they at least showed every shot from that threesome. Which the call was incredible. It was awesome.

Right. And, you know, you're just sitting there as a viewer though, which is like, oh God, yeah, another four minutes of commercial. Like just an absolutely terrible product, and the cherry on top of it all is two things. One, back in December last month, you get golf channel,

all aboard the Women Worth Watching train, right? And my takeaway today was, like, Women Worth Watching, but only And, you know, my takeaway today was like, women worth watching, but only for you in the final group, because none of the other ones were worth watching. In their opinion. And then two, worth watching as much as party fish. Right. That's equal time. That's not me saying that. That's what I gather. That's what golf channel is telling me through their actions. And then two, the LPGA pays for this coverage, right? This isn't the NBC golf channel bidding on rights to show this.

And so I understand, well, okay, they're paying, that they're getting paid for the coverage, but they're obviously they're likely not making as much money as they are for PGA tour coverage, which goes into the Women Worth watching campaign. And at some point, like actions from these companies have to align with these hashtags and these marketing terms. And so it's just so, I don't know, it just felt like insulting to me and a little disrespectful

to the women's game that you're going to put on such a shitty broadcast that was quite clearly below any week to week PGA tour event on NBC. It just left such a bitter taste in my mouth. And I'm talking about that instead of what was the most, you know, it's basically the equivalent I was thinking about it's like the equivalent of like a Justin Thomas Ricky Fowler playoff on the PJs. That's what I'm saying. It's like the most delicious final grouping that the LPGA could have asked for.

It's like an extreme for your product. And the golf was great. I want to talk about the golf. Too bad ass sisters taking off. Yeah. The mudhead. The mudhead. The mudhead.

It's like, you don't mudhead. I mean, a complete showdown. I mean, it's just, that's good stuff. That has a story there. And I wanna get out in front of someone who has, you know, taken much criticism about complaining about the TV too much. The point is like that, I'm so with you in that,

that became the story today instead of the golf, which is like, it was a chore to try to watch it. I was like telling people early in the day, like, oh man, this is gonna be an awesome tournament. You should flip it on later. DJ and I went to the golf course this morning and we're coming home, he's like, I can't wait to watch the mud hand today.

Yeah, I'm so jacked for this. And after about two holes, I was like, this is anybody who's not me who doesn't have to talk about this on a podcast. Like I totally understand why you turn this off because talking to a lot of players and stuff, it's like, you know, the biggest thing here in Mike Wann talk about it a ton.

I mean, this was probably his top bullet point, right? It was network TV coverage. Where it's like, this is, you have no idea how big of a deal it is for us to be on network TV. And it's like because you can make such an impact. You can, you know, you can really interest a lot of these people in tuning in, maybe on a more frequent basis.

You can also turn off a lot of people when you put out a shit product to that big of an audience. So I got a nassus on Twitter and two of the replies that stood out to me was, the Twitter user Carl Spackler tweeted, you know, I had two young daughters who I had convinced like this is such a cool pairing. These sisters are playing together. And he was like, I lost their intention within the first half hour. Like, they spent the rest of the tournament

like over in the playroom. They had no interest because it couldn't, there was no flow, there was no, that broadcast would not grab anybody. Which sucks because I had it on for the entirety of the broadcast on either Thursday or Friday, I forget. I think Friday on the background while I was working and I was just drawn in. Like it was a the format was working for me. It was 25 players.

They were mixing in a lot of players and they the way they worked the celebrities in there. Like it's good. It's kind of a cool story with the celebrities. Like it's good. It's some of the best athletes at golf. Like playing, you know, for a gross title, like Josh Scoby and Martin. These guys are playing their ass. Aaron Hicks was murdering the ball and you get to watch, like, we throw out all these ideas all the time,

like how cool would it be to watch like a scratch player next to an LPGA player and you could see the difference, like that was it and they were kind of capturing that and then they got to the weekend and it looks like the strategy was totally different with NBC and it was unwatchable. Yeah, so can I ask you a question?

Yeah, please. How much does LPGAP for Golf Channel 2 broadcast their sport? I do not know the answer to that. I just, that baffles me that with all the fight over live sports, and that's kind of the last bastion along with like cable news of like where you can sell ads against it. So I think it's a streaming platform not come through and say, Hey, we'd love to, we'd love to broadcast your sport. Like how is there not somebody else that could,

I think how that works is, it's big, it's the spot, like you, at least how it works with, you know, certain events on the corn fairy tour. Like you sell to a sponsor and it costs $6, let's just call it that. But for $10, we'll put you on TV. So the sponsor is the one that's paying for it, but it's an extra cost. There's a way I understand it. I don't know if that's the same for the LPGA, but basically,

sponsor puts up extra dollars, basically pays to put it on TV. You know, that money goes to the network to broadcast it more than the network is buying the rights for it. Does that make sense? It does. Okay. So that's how I, and that helps the network cover almost like maybe losses if they don't sell enough ads.

It's like a little buffer for them if they don't sell enough ads against it. It costs something. I'm going to throw this out there. It's going to be a totally wrong number. It costs them like half a million dollars per week to broadcast a golf tournament, basically. So like, if it was up to NBC or golf channel who were cutting costs everywhere,

if they don't have to go spend half a million dollars to broadcast an LPGA event, they probably don't want to. On speaking on a pure dollars and cents, you know, landscape. But if they, like, if you're talking about the hard cameras and kind of the skeleton crew they got out there,

like what, what, what is that costume? Like, because it doesn't, I get the PGA tour to like a normal PGA tour broadcast, but it feels like there's gotta be something in the middle, right? But here's my problem, you can make good broadcast with a skeleton crew. I mean, we see that, the golf channel does that with the college championships.

Yeah, so that, I don't even like that excuse because you can have compelling broadcasts with a very stripped down equipment standard setup. I think one thing that model probably encourages and you know, I hate taking a shot at like the title sponsors because there's probably not a massive amount of people lining up to sponsor these LPGA events and it's awesome that someone like Diamond Resorts puts up the money to do this. But when you get put in that predicament of like,

you know, put up all this money and then we'll put you on network TV, it also probably emboldens you a lot more to be like, cool, the leader just pumped it, you know, potentially out of bounds on the 16th hole. Yeah, why don't we put the CEO on TV right now? It's like, dude, how do you have so little self-awareness to not realize that like, you're not fooling anybody.

Like nobody's tuning in and being like, oh, you know what, I was really into this golf, but yeah, no, stick with this guy. This is fucking fascinating. What, what's this guy's favorite? Yeah, I didn't think about it. I didn't think about, you know. What's the last guy I'm more than once?

I didn't think about timeshairs the way this guy's put it. Flasky was all over the telecast. And it's just,'s just rewards like the most eagom maniacs among us and these CEOs that think they can fool people by like being in the booth, they're being, it's so stupid. So it was everywhere.

And so it sucked, it straight up sucked and it sucks even more because I think for me at least it overshadowed what was an awesome golf tournament. So let's get to the golf tournament then. Just a quarter shot 60 on Saturday. Well, at back nine, nine under 28, if I have that right, which I got kept trying to figure out the math, I think I have that right.

But she shot 28 on the back nine. Yeah, yeah, it's a part 37 coming in. She says so she, she didn't birdie a part five. Correct, yeah. And then she eagled the other par five or one of the other par fives. So Daniel Kang who we've affectionately nicknamed the mud hen everybody calls her the mud she won the two Toledo starts last year at the at the restart. The no brainer's looking for exactly. God she was working on a bogey

list streak going back to the CME in December of like 80, over 80 holes. I don't know officially what that number ended at. Imagine how many feet of pus she made at that time. Oh my God. So she was in control looking to go wire to wire and then doesn't make a bogey until the 15th of Sunday. But as you said, Jessica Corda was kind of dropped out

of the mix at the turn on Saturday, and then plays her last 27 holes 14 under. Finally runs down Danielle on the back nine, goes to a playoff, and Jessica makes a birdie on the first playoff hole. But then you have Nelly, who, you know, the younger sister of Jessica, in a very stretched Venus and Serena comparison,

you know, Nelly, I think people are looking at her as the Serena, like, yo, she's got more talent. She was right there. She got a little loose Saturday, not the best back nine, came back with a 65 today. There are times where I watch Nelly court of swing and I'm like, that is it, that is the greatest

golf swing in the world. And there's also times I walk off and I'm like, you know what, she might have the second best swing in her family, not that I think about it. It looks so pure. It's unbelievable. Like they, they, they, they had a great graphic, LPJ tweeted a great graphic of like Danielle,

Jessica and Nelly's swings all in one gif, kind of all making impact at the same time. And I watched it for for 30 seconds on repeat. It was awesome. Seeing some of God with Daniel puts into her golf swing, like the one she lost right, I think that was on 16, right? Six, yeah, short four. It is, dude, she's squeezing every possible

outside of that golf swing. And when it goes, when it goes, it goes. That was compelling. Flip it, flip it, flip it. Exactly. That was a save. But, fuck fluid, fluid, exactly. That was a stable, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. But, hell into it.

I'd also say I watched a little bit of it Saturday and I didn't get to watch any today, but it was her process. Her pre-shot routine is, it is like, you know, on repeat, which as someone who's trying to get better at that, that's fun to watch her and her caddy go to work. I think that's a very optimistic way to look at it. I think she's also slow as hell. Oh, all right.

That's for, we'll see. I need to, I need to, the process is good. She was, she was very slow today. LPG has a lot of, I should single her out, I guess, but yeah, but that was a take away from the test. But you know what, there's slow play everywhere. Good guard throw hand there.

I'm gonna defend that because that is actually good tournament sense on a day where the pace is abysmal and you are true. That's what I was saying really about that television flow. They could have showed other professional women 100%. But they got stuck in a rut of, I don't know how that was flowing, a drivable par four and then a reach bull par four, and

then a reach bull par five, and then a par three finish. I'm not an expert at directing traffic on a golf course, but that way that worked out was a nightmare. And so if you are trying to win a golf tournament where you know you're going to be waiting on every other shot, there's no reason to go fast. You are doing yourself a disservice if you're doing that. That's very fair. And I think that almost, you know, the way that they,

I don't know if it's, it has to be because the celebrities were zippered in the way they were that the pace was so bad, right? I mean, I know the LPGA pace is never lightning, but it's like, that was abysmal today. And one, those guys were playing gross. And two, there, you know, some of those part fives are much more reachable for those guys.

I'm sure that they are for, yeah. So it was just, goes back to my initial thing about diamond resorts, which is like when you're ponying up all the cash to make sure this gets on network TV, then you're probably able to put your thumb on the scale a lot more for like, oh no, well, clearly everybody will care who wins our esteemed celebrity title.

It's like I have never ever, ever needed to see one of these celebrities hit a golf ball. Like I, maybe I'm Thursday, Friday, like you were saying, you know, show me a couple of like, oh, maybe show me a package throughout the final round. Like here's how this swing compares to this. Then my question is answered at that point. I don't need to see if he's gonna chip this one close.

Don't need it. Aaron Hicks was interesting, I will say. Should I just end programs on Saturday? Like, and then just the Sundays like let the pros Well, the idea is to get people to tune in to watch some of these guys. Yeah, it's it's all is not you're trying to drop You my favorite is then Pebble Beach though doing the Larry Fitzgerald interview during the NFC championship Like what football fan is this? Toon again for this and not watching somebody tweeted that I mean, I don't be to steal that take that

I don't know who said that, but that's a good point. I never met these people that are tuning in for the amateurs, for the celebrities. I'm sure they exist, maybe. Let me see what's Toby Keith's schedule like. All right, he's gonna be at the diamond resort this week, so we'll be watching that. Cool, that's great.

That's my boy. I better be watching. Like Marty Fish, like, again, God love him. I like Marty fish like He's not anywhere near like the most watch guy in his original sport like Josh goby nobody's watching a football game for Josh Goby Aaron Hicks God bless him people aren't tuning into Yankees games to watch Aaron Hicks And so why the hell would we tune in to watch those guys play golf? Especially on a Sunday. This gets back to my point that I was saying earlier.

It's like all these people are so afraid to just lean into what their actual product is. It's all these like spit shining, shiny new object ideas to like, oh God, nobody's gonna watch because our product sucks. Maybe this'll bring him in. It's like no, that's not gonna bring in any more and all you're doing is just nuking the people

that are watching. This makes no sense. Stop the madness, Neil. Stop it. It doesn't make sense. Like, Neil, I'm gonna... This is cathartic for you. I'm gonna pick on you.

Do you know anything about Inji Chun? I don't. Okay. Do you know anything about Shion Knight's story? No. Defending champ. Lost a brother in a tragic accident. One in his honor, great story there. So Fiya Popov, I think you do know.

I do, and it was great to see her in the top 10. Exactly. Brooke Henderson was in the top 10, you know. Yes. Lexie Tompula. Fugually popular, Lexie, like, guys, we could have told some stories, and maybe educated some viewers, and maybe gotten a new fan or two.

You guys ready to get to hamster, damn you? Oh, yeah, God. It just was, it wouldn't piss me off. I don't think it would piss me off as much as it did. And this is the final thing I'll say. If you don't see Molly Solomon and Golf Channel and a lot of these networks just patten themselves on the back last December with the Women Worth Watching campaign. And as these opportunities to see if anything's changed and to see about, you know, these power brokers in the game of golf, if they're actually taking action to change anything, well, this was a resounding no today. And I think that's what most maddened me.

And you were speaking with LPGA players today who were very unhappy. Oh my God, they're yummy me. Yeah, like one big guitar player. They're like, get a real LPGA player. It's coming up to with tears in their eyes. Many, many players. Sing, sir.

You have to fix this, sir, please. It's not that, but I can tell you among the players themselves, there is a lot of frustration. So we have a new young hitter in the program. And debut. Thank you. Last thing, Madeline Sackstrom. She was teeing it up with a no-ling up bag and towel and she's going to be in a lot of content this year with us.

So that's going to be exciting. And she hadto top 25. And she's top 25. You put so much pressure on her when I knew you shouldn't have picked her to win. Well, we'll see. I think the home game model was thrown off. Like you said, there was too many home games.

They all cancel each other out. Well, and when you have the DJ on the 18th, the like, that was the right thing. That was literally- Nidalee, the models did not pick that up. That was kind of wild. I'm just trying to figure out where I knitted out on that one of all holes to have an 18th hole Like the 72nd hole the tournament was just what they got what out there

No, there was he would have been a massive improvement. There was a straight up disc jockey just like yeah, like up in the assassin tower of straight over the 18th tea is Unbelievable, either I go the players do have the option to tell the DJ to turn off the music were their fans? Yeah, yeah, okay, so I was gonna say this a fanless event with a DJ that would have been quite a vibe Just it was tough I'm playing no, I appreciate what you said that's, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, They opened the season with a bang. Couple great pieces of content came from the European website. They had the the Opus Day video. The Angry Belfers.

We were talking about this this morning. Talk about your, you know, what you were saying about Matt Wallace. All right. So I love that video. Obviously, you know, Lord Tyrell, you know, owning his Opus Day is awesome, but Matt Wallace, it's like, God Patrick Reed, are you listening?

Cause if you are, like, here's how you God, Patrick Reed, are you listening? Cause if you are, here's how you get people to like you, if you care. Like him lining up the cat is like, I think you're an awesome person. I think, like, it's not you, it's me. It's not you, it's me. Like that was so good. And I think the video might have been like a little too long. Like they might have gone back to the well for one too many jokes.

But I give those guys a ton of credit. They're like super self-aware. They're funny. They seem to like each other, which is like, oh my god, like, instead of us being forced to watch like SB2K21, you know, oh look how good a friends these guys are. It's like, no, they're just like, they're like doing stuff together to better the tour itself.

And I think I'm sure we've said this, but that single handedly speaks to the team who puts those videos together. Because a lot of people say, oh, like all those guys just get paid, yada, yada, yada. And yes, there's some appearance fees that go into these, you know, especially the Middle East events and stuff like that.

But by everything we've heard, it's like, no, like the guys just like legitimately love doing them because they know they're gonna be really good. And they probably make them easy to do, they make them easy to, you know, fun to do. It's a true credit to like having worked at the PJ tour when you go up to someone and you're like, hey man, the PJ tour needs you to do this.

Like it's total 50, 50 ball. I'm like, if it's a no name player who's never gets asked to do anything, yeah, probably your best friend. If it's somebody who gets beat up all the time, it's like, why the fuck would I do that? No. The European tour players don't like treat themselves like they're their own corporation, which PGA tour players are all their own walking corporation. And it just looks like they're there for a common cause. And it's, I mean, it's different.

It's apples and oranges though. It's a totally different tour. It's totally different structure. Totally different cultures. It's just, it's a very different ballgame over there. It's, it's totally different structure, totally different cultures, it's just, it's a very different ball game over there. Well, it's cool to see like, across the spectrum, like young guys, like Eddie Pepperel, and then Stenson's in there, you know? Like he probably treat, like he is a corporation, like he's one of the best to do it. I thought Kymre stole the show.

Also. He was great. And Fleetwood's in there, like, I mean, it's hard to get time with Fleetwood, even on the pod, like, and it seems like it's important to them to put the tour that they're playing for, like put their best foot forward. And I appreciate that. To your point though, I don't think you can overlook if you come to guys with ideas that

are genuinely fun. Yes. Like, that's a provocative, that is a provocative formula that they're working with. But have a good creative idea and make it fun for the guys participating. God. Especially that stuff, bottle that up and sell that idea. That stuff snowballs so hard too, where it's like,

you do one and then everybody sees it and everyone's like, oh, I wanna be involved in the next one. Yeah. It's really, it takes one like home run to get so much goodwill. We're saying again, I give Matt Walls credit for, you know, I was great. Just making fun of himself. Mike Walls.

Sorry, Mike Walls. The turn of it. Matt Walls. I am solid. This is Mike. What? For making fun of himself. That was great.

For being a dick to his caddy. Like that's so, like that's it, man. That's how you get back in the good graces. I think that was awesome. And they post another awesome video you shared, DJ of the Justin Rose, Pudding Lesson. Yeah, that was really good too. It's like, this is a crazy idea.

Shout out to Team Rose, baby. Shout out. That was so complicated. The Team Rose message boards were fucking popping off when that thing went up, man. You should have seen. I've never had somebody in notifications of my team Rose app. But they posted a video.

If you didn't see it, it was very long for some reason. It was like nine minutes. Probably didn't need to be that long, but I'm not going to complain. It was just straight up, Justin Rose working on his putting with his putting instructor. And it was, they're both mic'd up. You can hear exactly what they're doing. You can see exactly what they're doing. And I think this gets back to the mic'd up players thing

is, no, we've said this over and over, wanna be very clear, nobody's expecting Seawook him, common down 18 live microphone right now, no filter. It's not the first step that we're asking for. Be funny. That's not what we're asking for. What we're saying is, dude, start small,

start in a practice round. Just tell me, again, unpack the golf stuff. It doesn't have to be like, oh my God, you should totally dunk on your playing partner. That would go viral. It'd be crazy. Just start with like, what are you talking to your caddy about? What, help me get better at golf?

Or just produce it a little, right? Like, that's where you see the one I think about all the time is the NBA coaches, right? And in the time it takes for a TV timeout, right? They capture that audio of the coach in the huddle with their team. And then they play it, you know, a minute or two back from the break. And you're not going to hear cuss words, you're not gonna, you know, there's an understanding there

that the people on TV are gonna make you look pretty good. But to your point, like, a lot of time during the telecast, you could gather audio from the prior 16 holes and then have really, really good audio coming down 17, 18. Here's an even easier one for you. You know who's gonna be in the final group? They're probably gonna be relevant in the tournament. Mike them up during their practice round.

Urden out practice round, they're warm up. They're warm up. No, oh, I forget. Oh, what is it? I think what you do. I forget who set it on the telecast. It was a great point when Fina was standing on 13T. I think and they said he's missed short left.

Twice today, both were from this number, both were with the six iron. And then he's standing on 13T with the six iron. I was like, oh my gosh, that's awesome. That's really interesting. Like, let us know maybe he's going through something like that in his warmup, you know, like, oh gosh, he kept missing right in his warmup. He kept missing right, he kept missing right.

Oh, and then he just missed right right there. Let's roll that package from, you know, from the warmup thing. And it's, I don't know. There's so many little things you could do. You just, I know the big hurdle because I've gone through it on a very micro level is like you gotta get guys to say yes to it. But there's enough guys that will say yes.

I promise, they might not be Justin Thomas and Dustin Johnson and Brooks Capka on the first week, but that's why again, I know we said this at the time, but like I give Ricky a ton of credit for being a big name person who actually did that, but some of these guys, they look like Matthew Wolff, would be a guy like that. Like they might me up.

There are guys that will do it. People might not like that. Keith, do you think the Torres asked for someone to be mic'd up during warmups? I don't. Or is it just for like, oh, we need you for all 18 holes and you gotta wear this mic pack and. I'm not sure. Right? Like it doesn't seem like they make it easy on themselves. I think they ask for like, oh, we need you for all 18 holes and you gotta wear this mic pack and- I'm not sure.

Right? Like, it doesn't seem like they make it easy on themselves. I think they ask for like small wins first. Probably asked for practice round stuff, but then even that stuff gets like, there's so many disparate parts. I think the, the, the, Euro-tours really honest something with the warm up. Like, because now I'm gonna, like,

like, what I have ever said this yesterday, I'm gonna be watching Justin Rose's putting stands. Exactly. Like, is he putting pressure on the outside or the inside of his feet? Right. Like, honestly, I have something to watch now when Justin Rose comes up, just a little bit more to look for.

And you know what? Which is unbelievable. You know, it's a lot easier to tie someone to the product when you're using the product. Yes. You don't need to stage a photo op with Justin Rose with DJ Khaled. You know, that's not going to make me want to watch

all of them. We don't have to put them in chiefs and Patriots here and make them hike the ball in the red sea. But all right. So Tyrell hadn't wins the upper top. Last thing. What what is everybody doing when they go to a golf tournament or maybe not everyone, but they usually go to the practice range first. So to kind of get their bearings like, oh, let's see who's here. Let's go, I mean, it's like almost just learn from your fans are there live when there are fans. It's like, God, it's such a great place. They just gain some knowledge and some vibe and they just don't leverage it.

So, to your point, the transition, hadn't looked so good today, man. Oh my God, I don't know if you guys watched the telecast at all. I watched while I was doing some editing, he murdered the rib in cold blood. It was. True. Mark. He stopped. It was hard to watch, man. I was, I was hoping to hit the, the Finau max Rory Parley today of all three of those balls bouncing my way. Unfortunately, only got the Finau one, but it was, Rory was tough to watch and Hatten was a thrilled watch to the point where he's

he's on my big board now. I think of guys who are like, man, when he's in the lead, I'm tuning in. That was awesome to watch. I had some people that were tweeting, you know, see the new Noren? I think he's like top five in the world now. No, totally different category. Totally different category. He's done it on both sides of the pond.

He has played amazing golf in the US. He won Bay Hill this past year and came back. After COVID got T3 at Heritage, finished T4 at Rocket and Mortgage, went out in one. I finished fifth in the Torch Championship, that actually was 72 whole score section of that. And then won the BMW PGA, another top 10 Houston and now wins in Abu Dhabi.

He plays really big boy golf. Yeah, and he's gonna be a major threat, I think. Aesthetically, there's something that I just can't get with. It seems like Westwood vibes. Yeah, he's like a bruiser, right? I don't sense much grace in his move or in his- No, over the top move is not. Yeah, but it's unique though.

I love it. I like- I think it keeps me from- Fashion it and he's fiery and he's like, he makes you feel something. Sure, I guess. I guess. I don't sense much,

might be a little abrasive, but it's something. I don't sense much artistic quality about his game. And I think for me, that's maybe my personal disconnect with him. I thought, so he was one of those guys that there's very few guys in golf that are really exciting to watch, hit it to 20 feet or 30 feet. And for whatever reason today, he was one of those guys for me, where the obvious example is Tiger, whenever Tiger's playing,

it's like, oh my God, did you see how he hit that ball right in the exact spot? He hit it right where he needed to. That was Hatton's round today, man. He didn't make any mistakes and Rory couldn't get anything going and it was just like... Mike a play. Hatton just didn't blink the whole time. It was just like, cool. I'm going to hit it if I missed a fairway.

I'm hit it to the fat part and making... I'm too putting. And if I... In the fairway, I'm going to hit it to the right spot and have a straight put and probably make it. He was... He was really good. And what I add is, I like watching him because he's unpredictable with his reaction. Oh my gosh.

Sure. It's exciting. If he does hit a bad shot in contention, you're gonna know about it. And that's so sick. That's why I think I enjoyed today so much. It was great to have seen the extremes on both sides. It's great when everything's going his way to see how good he is and when it's not going his way.

Obviously, that's even more fun. One thing I don't think I gave him enough credit for was I totally kind of spaced on a lot of his injury stuff. I don't think I realized that commentators pointed that out in a really good way that he had risk surgery. I forget how long ago, but basically over this last 14 month stretch here, it's kind of the first time he's played like

pain free golf in a long time and he's been really good. So I'm sure I was definitely discrediting, you know, just how big of an impact that had on him. My favorite hat and thing ever was when he hit that, he hit like a not really not that bad of a shot, but hit a bad approach shot. I was like, is that the worst shot you've ever seen? And that's just kind of answer the question.

He's so dramatic. It's great. Golf needs more of it. Yeah, I'm looking forward to watching my mom more. I think he's dramatic in a, it's not so much a whiny way. It's almost like a, like he's just a, he's like abrasive with himself. Yes, you know, he's not like, God, and nothing's going my way. He's like, God, I fucking suck man. It's sick. All right, anything else you guys want to add in

before the, well, the room you to talk about the ribs. The ribs shot 72. So he's a comfy Sunday for the rib these days. Not only that, he's very fiendish in that he started out so good, a couple of birdies to start. And like, I was excited. I told you this morning, I was like,

man, I don't know the last time I DVR'd something, stayed off Twitter, like don't tell me who wins. I just want to, I want to watch a rib coronation to start 2021 here. And he comes out with a couple of birdies. I was, I was very excited. And, uh, God, it just, it just wasn't, it wasn't great after that.

I didn't realize, realize his results at this tournament are very spooky, four runner ups, and I think four third places. Not good. I mean, actually, it's super good, but like crazy that he hasn't got a dub there. I hate that. I hate that for, man.

But I was hoping, I guess, that we'd see Rory kind of scale a mountain to start the year and very much was not the case. Hatton was awesome, but Rory could have been more awesome. Yeah, it's Rory. So like, everything is obviously thrown out, I guess realism is thrown out, but I struggled to get beat by two guys and have it be a horrible take away to start the year. No, that's of course. Of course. You're totally right, but like, dude, two guys and have it be a horrible takeaway. No, no, no, that's start to get out. No, that's, of course. Of course.

You're totally right, but like, dude, he didn't, he didn't have it. It was, Yeah, and he concerns about the fun around 72 though. I mean, that's less than ideal, I would say, but it'll happen, right? Yeah. He's there, he's, you know?

I think it goes back to the, it goes back to the phenom thing a little bit, right? Where it's like, dude, I agree, of course, finishing third is excellent. That's by any measure a great thing. But like when you're Rory, man, you got to slam the door. When was the last time we saw him slam the door on somebody? We expect more from the ribs.

It's been a minute. I'm honestly at the point, like Rory's four tournaments a year matter for Rory. Like I can't get worked on. Well, I hate to break it to you, but he hasn't really slammed the the door any of those either. But I know that. That.

I think if it was a final round 72 at the Masters to win by, you know, the B5 behind, I think we could have a little conversation. But I wouldn't have had that conversation. I just don't think this gives us any more information today. I wanted to ask you, the Fabrizio Zanati. Was he driving the Alfa Romero? Is he in the Alfa Romero car?

I have to double check. It was cool to see him. Yeah, that was very cool. He's like, prime time, two sport athletes. Yeah. All right. What do you guys have? What else do you guys have to wrap up the night?

Oh, boy. Doug Kim sweater today was a complete disgrace. He just out to a Fred X cup team member. He counts horrible though Some of those Nike ones from a couple years ago just were made like three sizes too big And I can't believe he's still waiting. No one's still wearing those. I want to give a shout out to TC on the fashion front He he got a great line Yesterday he said that Dylan for telly makes Brendan Haguey look like a no Brendan Haguey makes Dylan for Telly look like a rock star.

Which, yeah, that's tough. Which I was like, easy, that's a spicy one. So, yeah, that's all I got. And any other various things, I think it was all over social media, but the San Valley putting in a replica of the Lido, still not totally sure how I feel about that, you know, in the middle of central Wisconsin. But I think we saw at Bannon just what an inspiration

that place was to Mike Heizer. So for anybody that may not know, what's the Lido? It's a long extinct golf course. No, me, I'm asking, I'm asking. Long extinct golf course up in New York that many people said was the first or second best golf course in the world at its time in the country at least at its time and Seth Rainer golf course that I think has been lost to the stands of time. He had turned into an army base and then turned into a development hotel.

So it's out by Jones Beach and like,, it's big time, like Robert Moses, like Powerbroker territory, like building highways and bridges out to the beaches to, to get the suburbs out on the water. And then there's, actually there's a pitch and putt now out there, like it's kind of a replica of the, of course I haven't been to that one, but there's another one, which is the Robert Moses, like State Park pitch and putt, which is right on the course, I haven't been to that one, but there's another one, which is the Robert Moses,

like the state park pitch and putt, which is right on the ocean, which is a sweet one. So Randy, I'd love to take out there, know how you feel about pitch and putt. I would love that, Neil. Well, first impression, it sounds like maybe, you know, I've quite taken by the Old McDonald Project out in Oregon.

Yeah, which was heavily inspired by the Lido, not exactly a replica. This is, I think the goal is basically like, you know, as close of a replica as you can possibly have without the Atlantic Ocean. Which are people that aren't going to really care about the original, like, I don't know the whole by whole of the original Lido, like, I don't have anything to compare it to. So I'm just going to show up and play the course and be like, is this good or not? And it probably will be, like, it's going to be a Tom Doke off course at San Valley, I'm sure it's gonna be excellent.

And I'm kind of a sucker for projects lost in time. Yeah, it's a good story. You know, and something to do a little research on. So that's exciting news. You wanna play us out? Yeah, so I got a little Sunday soapbox. Got this in the mail today, I know people can't see it, but we can put it out on the the inner webs.

A friend of ours, we don't know him, but he sent us, it's John minimum, Minium, excuse me, John Minium. And he writes a year in review, like a little pamphlet. So this is a 2020 year in review. And what is it a review of? It is a review of his golf game and in great detail. And the reason I bring this up is we got it in the mail yesterday and it's just we have every one since 2017. And they show up at the kill house. They show up at the kill house. And I remember Tron showing me this.

He's like, you got to read this thing. I was like, what is it? It's like it's a review of this guy's golf game. Like a year in review. I was like, his golf game. It's like, yeah, I was like, it's like a professionally assembled tag. He's keeping so many data going like a little magazine about about his I will give a shout out because it's such like a someone whose goal this year is to track his scores.

Like this is like, this is the opus, right? This is the benchmark. And so I want to call out a few things. It's it's a mix of like really good stats. So rounds played, uh, how many birdies, uh, birdies were up. Birdies were up, which is good to see because 45, 45 birdies had been going in a bad direction. So like total rounds play this year, 128. That's up from 98 last year. Birdies were going down last year. They went up this year. Uh, they had been trending down to one just a one year thing. So 100 fair. The rounds went way up to 100. I would like to see birdies per round. Is John a volume score exactly?

Well, he had 125 birdies and 125 rounds, which is sweet. And Randy, I think it's good for you to see something like that because you have a 100 birdies in 2021 goal. I can also have another goal un-stated that to stay under 100 rounds a go. So you mix in like good stats, like really well thought out stats. He has balls lost that.

So zero balls lost number of rounds, 77, 60% of rounds, he doesn't lose a ball. That's great. One ball loss, 38 rounds, 30% of rounds, two balls lost, seven, five percent, three, five, four percent. So on and on. So 71 loss balls, but then right next to that, you got a picture, John, and he's wearing like an Arnold Palmer outfit with just a question,

who wore it better with John versus Arnie, right? So there's a little bit of humor. He's got some pictures from the year mixed in. I would like, the only criticism I have, first of all, I'd wish him well on, it sounds like his golfer's elbow was flaring back up. Hey, hey, hey, that's not on. But it's a sign that he's playing more rounds.

I'd like to see the questions get a little tougher. You know, I don't know who's asking the questions in the magazine. So you're skipping ahead. Oh, sorry, sorry. So it goes to like rounds, 2020 courses played. So then he has a little breakdown on all the courses he played, like one little blurb about him. And the next is, yes, 18 questions.

And this is consistent with the last few years. It's like, number one question, as always. Still no hole in one? No. Zero for 11,500 plus par threes in my lifetime. I witnessed one for the fourth time, cost me 50 bucks. Shout out to Josie.

I mean, the guy that was running around with Kid Rock for a while. No, sorry. Three foot nine with a 10 foot 10. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Shout out to B Johnson, who had the whole one at Legend South. So, but then he's got these, he's got these. Could be just two big, big goons. Shout out, John's got these shirts to say zero career hole in ones, which, like, I mean,

it's just like, to me, it represents everything that's great about golf. He's taking it serious. He's recording his stats and he's trying to get better. But then he mixes in like at the end, he says, uh, no, sorry, last question. He goes parting thoughts. Um, I said this a lot in my 2016 year in review, but I find myself quoting this a lot. Golf is hard. Focus on one camaraderie to getting some exercise, three, communing with nature.

If you only focus on your score, you'll be disappointed most of the time. Look at playing well as a bonus. I'm honestly wondering if Randy's been making these pamphlets. Truly, and that you, I don't know if you would John are the same guy, but like, it's the best, because on the back he's got a sign that says, no preferred lies, we play golf here. Well, and that's a great, I'm glad you brought that up

because if you're listening, I have one very important question for you. Are you hitting cups? I need to know if you're hitting cups. No give me. Exactly. So, you know, give me an answer there. So, I don't know.

I'll probably take a picture of this and put it out there. One last fun fact is he has two states left to play all 50 states. I think it's Alaska and Utah and Utah. So I hope that John gets it done this year. I think that's a goal for 2021 for him to play golf in all 50 states. And he's already got some goals that he outlined in here, which are play the top college courses, play the top nine whole courses in the country and play the top Native American courses in the country.

Man. So, I mean in the country. Damn. I mean, thoughtful guy. Yeah. So, you know what? Shout out to John, and I think that, you know, that makes me want to go play more golf. And it also makes me want to track my stats. So it's exactly what I, it's almost like I needed to get this in the mail for me to be excited about the stack keeping stuff.

That's like here. That's what I was journaling during the round, round, last week at Sea Island. You were taking notes on the scorecard? No, I'm just, no, I'm trying to start small, which is just track greens. And then, obviously, which side do you miss on? Fairways, what side do you miss on? Puts and then saves, right? And hopefully, maybe a little build from there,

but I don't want to start tracking like 10 different things. And then, and I'm also tracking birdies, where I made them and how many. Because I want to think I got DJ on. I mean, I want to see if I can get to 100 to... I think I got DJ on that. You got me. I want to see if I can get to 100 this year or just like where... That's a great one. And you look back of where you made birdies.

Exactly. That's really a good call. Part three is part four. Part five. John Minimum's year in review. Kind of like your catcher in the ride. Just came into your life at the right time. I'm your little bit, man.

So shout out. And it came with a little post-it note. It said, love the pod, boys. So I hope he's listening. Yeah, I love it. I love it. I killed John Lennon after this. Yeah, and why you got it? That's your parting thought after all that.

No, that was a beautiful sentiment. I'm really glad you brought it up. John, I have no idea how John got the address. I have no idea how he started sending these to us, but it truly brightens my day. It's the fourth one we've got. Every time I see it, I absolutely love it. So thank you.

And we've saved him all. We've got him all downstairs. So they're great. Great love it. So thank you. And we've saved them all. We've got them all downstairs. So they're great. Great bathroom material. So absolutely. All right, thank you everyone for tuning in. Boys, thank you for a eventful Sunday night. Thank you for not taking it easy on me on Fee now.

And we will be back. We got a podcast with Tommy Fleetwood coming out on Tuesday. Shorter episode, we were not able to wrangle too much of his time, but look forward to that. Because he was doing Opus Day stuff. Yeah, it was busy with making content. He's a content king. So thanks everybody for tuning in and we'll see you next week.

Cheers. Cheers. Get a right club. Be the right club today. Yes. That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most.

Better than most. How about in? That is better than most. Better than most.