No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 403: Genesis Recap
Episode Date: February 22, 2021Max Homa! The 2021 Genesis Invitational champ (briefly) calls into the show, and the boys react to his emotional win, Finau's incredible Sunday 64, a wild Saturday at Riviera, Mike Whan at the USGA, a...nd a lot more from an action packed week. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I'm going to be the right club today.
Yes! That is better than most.
I'm not in.
That is better than most.
Better than most. of the Genesis imitational solid here, TC is here. Never a doubt, never a doubt.
Not even one doubt was ever shared in this group.
DJ Pies here.
You're the process man, trust the process.
We've seen it before and now we've seen it again.
Lastly, Neil is here.
I'm jacked up, I don't know what to say.
Jacked up or tear it up?
I've just jacked up, it's gonna be a do-it-life kind of pot,
I think.
Do it live. We usually spend a few minutes. Yeah, we usually spend a few minutes like planning
How we're gonna say today is just like now. Let's just let's just send it. We are gonna say one thing first
You're gonna hear us talk a little bit about Sam Burns in this episode. We're gonna set the table real quick
Quick overview of what's in the bag and a way to learn more about him if you're not familiar
Friday, Cal way tweeted a video about Burns is called the jump gives you an insight into his background personality and his hidden talent which I bet you
guys didn't know what you probably do know because you watch the video but he
can operate an excavator really yes interesting you didn't watch the video
no I did I just forgot my son Freddie can also up
yeah I said Freddie's new favorite player yeah so you can watch the two minute
video and see that but terms of his on-course skills, first in Stroke's game approach on Thursday, the round
that set him up for the rest of the tournament.
For those approach shots, he's got the same Apex prototype irons that Ram and now Zander
having the bag and he's using an Apex 23 degree hybrid set of jaws, raw wedges.
And he's playing the Chromesoft X Golf Ball.
He said, I love this ball.
It's so fast on the driver.
It gives me all the shots that I need.
There were a lot more Chromesoft X balls. They're visible in that Sunday. Burns, Ram, Mollinari, N love this ball. It's so fast on the driver gives me all the shots that I need. There were a lot more crumbs off the x balls.
They're visible in that son.
It burns, rambles, anari, noren, rogers, among others playing these.
The gouch was just a little bit stuck in between in the middle.
He was going to shoehorn that one.
You're going to stick that one in a better way.
That was making one the show regardless.
I thought I saw a utility club in there.
The x forged.
Maybe check the Darryl survey for that.
I don't know.
I'll tell my head.
Neil, the Daryl Survey is,
he's also the Daryl Survey.
I have no idea.
That's fair, that's fair.
That's inside my spot.
That's fair.
No, no.
It's just like the survey of all the players clubs
that are in play during internment.
So I'll do my research next week.
Thank you, thank you TC.
Multimedia countable.
To round out Burns' this bag,
he's got an Odyssey number seven
putter which he loves on the account of the easy alignment that it gives him. So.
I mean, I was impressed with Burns. I know. He was great. I've been on him. He's played
so well on Thursday, Friday, the last really eight weeks or so. And then finally, you know,
he's like God, crazy upside. Yeah. Crazy upside.
A lot of swagger.
Yeah, I'm going to play 60, 3D, 64, really, really good holes at golf.
So he's getting there.
So was this a good start to the year for the tour this last month?
Was the West Coast swing exciting?
Like, yes.
And yes, and almost in spite of them.
That's the best part.
I wish you weren't right, but I'm nodding because it's like, yeah, you want to give him credit,
but it's like, man, they're still.
They didn't really, yeah, they don't really deserve credit for it.
And it's worked out incredibly in the last month.
I draw a high theater.
You almost forget that there's not been fans of these things, waste management, there was
some, but like the golf, even exciting tournaments, we're feeling very boring there for a while.
Like the Ram DJ one, the BMW championship, just, I don't know, I feel like it fizzled just
the fact that it didn't have fans despite some exciting moments.
And then this little stretch comes, maybe it's just because it's people that we like that
have been involved, but Max Homa got it done.
Little stressful there.
The three flittered.
Do we start there?
No, I think we start.
No, I think we start with the Bowie free or there's just the Bowieer. Do we start there? No, I think we start.
No, I think we start with a three or there's just the bowie free.
What? What? 66?
The bogey free day, as he mentioned in his.
Well, let's set the stage for the day, right?
Because going into the day, we can talk about Saturday and all that.
But like going into the day, we had, Sam Burns had what, four, three shot lead, four shot lead
going into the final round, like after they finished up this morning.
Going into the final round, he had a two shot lead. Two shot lead. He got. Yeah, he shot 74 and
round three. He was minus nine going into the day. And Max was at minus seven. So it felt like
something that there were, there were like, it was like, all right, it's, can Burns get this done?
There's, there's some hunters chasing him. And I would include Max in that,
because he's been striking the shit out of his golf ball
the last four, five, six weeks.
There was a volume of guys back there willing,
willing and ready to make a move.
And for Burns to have to like sleep on the lead,
Thursday night, Friday night, go through that whole thing
Saturday, play a little bit of golf Saturday afternoon,
come out early Sunday morning, play, and then go rest up, then go out in the final group,
and keep a lead.
That's a lot to ask.
I want to thank you, by the way,
for rejiggering the final group.
You're welcome.
I know you're a big fan of the current system
that you couldn't even define earlier.
Here's what I'm gonna say before we talk about
how the groups are meant.
You need to decide whether you're in or out of this idea.
Because you keep waffling back and forth.
Every time someone pokes a hole in you,
like, I don't know, I don't know, I don't even know if I don't know
if I'm in on it.
Just their team.
I'm 100% in on that they could,
there could be a better way to do it
than there is right now.
Okay, we can find common ground.
Okay, that's where I'm at.
It's like everyone's, no, I earned it.
No, it's a damn tie breaker.
Like that is where I'm at on this.
Is why do we take what is currently being done as gospel?
We can talk more about that later.
But Max went out and played pretty much, yes,
a flawless round of golf.
He hit 9 of 14 fairways, which at Riviera is enormous.
Especially how they're rolling out, how they're canted.
It's just, it was unbelievable stuff.
Round three, guess what the field's fairway hit percentage was?
55.
42%.
Oh my gosh.
I don't know.
I assume that it's more attributed to the firmness
than it is narrow fairways.
I'm not saying narrow fairways are what we're going to
say Saturday.
Saturday.
Round three.
What includes today, too, because round three finished today.
But yeah, the wind was a contributing factor.
But even the early rounds, it was below 50% fairways hit.
So yeah, he's T8 today and hitting
in the volume of fairways he hit.
But I'm just trying, I mean, I, I know we're kind of scattered.
I don't really know where to start.
I'm trying to think of a shot he missed today.
You know what I mean?
It was, well, he struggled on the one on 10.
No, on the front nine, what's the, what's the par three?
He got it up and down today, but he bogeyed it.
Bogey four.
Number four.
Yeah, four is four eight is what.
He missed all we ate.
He missed long right there. Bogey bogey the first three were up and down.
Um, which even that one is I don't know what it was playing today.
It was like two four like two yes, like two twenty six.
So it's that one.
And I think it was downwind yesterday.
I don't know where it was today.
But even that one, I'll give him a pass on that one.
I guess.
But after that, I mean, it was fairways greens, fat parts of the greens.
It was like watching major championship golf.
You know, I mean, it was like watching major championship golf. You know what I mean?
It was like watching someone win the USO.
Well, that was like, so from a golf.
Sit there with strategy perspective.
Sit there with Neil watching him play 12, 13.
Those are hard, hard.
So hard.
I think hard is on the course.
And he's missing, like he's missing 20 foot birdie pots.
Yeah.
It was like man, like he had a lot of stress for me to go in.
But at the end of the day,
like he's still putting from 20 feet for birdie.
That said, did he need to be left to the flag on 14
when he knows what else?
He knows in the book.
Maybe not the book.
Maybe not, I don't know.
Yeah, yeah.
I think that was pulled a little bit.
That was probably the left edge of his variance
of where he was gonna hit that ball.
I'm trying to think back some shots.
You asked, where did he miss?
I'd say the second into 17.
Yeah, which even, that's not a horrible shot.
No, that was not a bad one.
No, that was not a bad one.
But if you asked him, I would say he probably, you know.
If I didn't want to be there,
but to that pin, you could chip straight up the hill at least
and it probably wasn't like horrifying to be there.
Well, Deij, going back to 14 in regulation,
he hit, he hit, well looked like a great shot.
Like, I was like, I was like, hoop it?
Like, maybe he's trying to fly it into the hole.
But he went along left, Icarito Miss.
For sure.
And really good up and down there.
But yeah, that was one that, that was really the only one that I can kind of recall on the
last few holes.
It was like, all right, like, this was a little bit sketchy. It was just a, it was a really, really stout round a golf.
It was, it had a lot of rhythm to it.
Yeah, that's what I mean with the stress-free two-puts,
where it's like, okay, these are hard paurs, you know, 12, 13, 14,
and he's just, I'm not stressing out yet.
It looks like he's in complete control of everything here.
So that's, that's fun to watch.
I think it's interesting to note, like just personally personally talking to him like the last four weeks or so he's been playing
really really really good golf and the putter hasn't been cooperating. So psychologically to kind of
get over that hurdle and almost trick yourself into thinking you know what at some point these
these putts are going to go and at some point I'm gonna make this putt. And, you know, it doesn't seem like he's even there yet,
and he's still one.
Like, he did that, like, he won without even getting
over that hump, really?
Because the, like, I mean, shit, the putt on 16.
Like, that was one where I was like, fuck man,
like that was like, and then I thought he missed it on 17.
I thought he missed it low, and then it kind of straight
now at the end. But say 18 was only maybe 16
were the only two puts, but I'd say one put on 18
that he only put him missed, they should have made all day.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, he was a positive show skim putting every round
in this tournament and it was 14th overall.
Totally.
I think he's doing the stuff that he needs to do,
but he's not like psychologically, he's still the stuff that he needs to do, but he's not psychologically,
he's still battling back from like,
this is what's holding me back, right?
Instead of using it as a strength.
I don't know when he said this exactly,
but what year this was,
but he said something along the lines of either
it was on his podcast with Shane Bacon to get a grip
or with, I forget what it was,
but he said, this year is the first year
I've ever gone into a year with my golf swing. The way he phrased it was, but he said, this year is the first year I've ever like gone into a year with my golf swing.
The way he phrased it was just like,
I know my swing now, I got it.
So watching him and rooting for him,
every time he's standing over a shot,
there is no fear.
As a fan of his, it's like,
this is gonna be a great shot.
I can't wait to see where he does next.
Can't wait to see what he does next.
That approach into 18 wasn't even remotely surprising,
I felt.
That's the craziest part about watching him.
I feel more nervous over a 10 foot putth
than I do over a 150 foot iron.
Yeah.
You know?
What he called it out, like 127,
it just felt like, we were like,
that's too good of a number.
Sounds like a good number.
You know that he has a club,
it goes exactly that far.
What a drive, right?
Like just, I mean, he kept the backspin off of it,
kept it low, then rolled out like crazy
and gray drive on 17 as well.
I always struggle with days like this
where I think about this when I watch Tiger
because you get so emotionally invested
in a round of Tigers that you really watch every shot
and you pay attention to the result of every shot
and you're just like, oh my,
it's what I've talked about on the pod a bunch
where it's like, man, it's so cool.
He's hidden into 30 feet.
Like that's, that's fucking awesome.
And he just started to like think about it.
Like maybe everybody is doing that.
Like maybe a lot of these guys are doing that.
And this is the first time I felt that way about another player.
Like today watching Max, it's like, man, is he just like boat race and everybody?
Or is everybody doing this?
This is, this is really fun to watch.
Only certain golf courses really require that.
Like the major championship courses that we've seen Tiger do that on.
I felt like I was watching Adam Scott today.
Like it was a very Adam Scott like round.
Just classy, classy T-to-green play.
I don't know.
If I could...
If Draft Kings wants to put up odds for the 2023 US Open at LA Country Club, I will nibble on those.
You got some extra funds now to play with, but I'd like to share three quick stories about Max
that we, the kind of, you know, I guess set the scene for what kind of duty is and how
like, how awesome he's been towards us. One, the fact that he flew on a red eye from Sony to join you guys for Strap Southern
California because he wanted to show off like his home courses is just like one that just
like speaks to his character.
Yeah, he's just when it's not bugging us.
Like, yeah, I totally don't have to do this.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I guess we'll meet you.
Is that an easy guy to root for? One, two, like, state in the Airbnb
as I'm snoring in the bedroom,
and then, like, went back and played on tour the next week.
It was unbelievable.
Two, and I don't think we've ever shared this story
because we didn't wanna give this information away,
but in the 2018 podcast, we recorded with Max.
He came over to the kill house.
We had an awesome hour recorded the podcast,
and we had a new mixer, we go to save it.
Not only just this, he's like in tears, right?
Like on this podcast, like telling stories
about being in the wilderness.
This is with my rock bottom moments of my career,
and then I came all the way back and I won, man,
and I did it.
Opened a vein.
Yeah, yeah, hand up.
Just didn't record.
Didn't hit the button.
No, it didn't save.
It just didn't save.
So we lost everything.
The whole podcast.
And this is after a day of like him going out
and watching his, like he missed the cut.
Yeah.
And him just going out and watching his peers.
Well, is that the Cornfairy Tour Championship
and the podcast as so as you can probably,
you know, surmise from the story, he sat back down
and was like, he's like, no, we're fucking doing it again, man.
Well, that's the thing.
Well, in my mind, I was like,
Let's do it all again.
I was like, shit, we can't ask him to come.
Like, we didn't even ask him, he's like,
oh, all right, I guess we'll try to get him tomorrow.
And we're like, oh shit, really?
So yeah, do we know some of the stories that were coming?
Yes, but like, that was, he was willing to do that.
It's to your point, John, like, he had missed the cut
at the Corner Fair Tour Championship,
but Newey was gonna be getting his card on Sunday.
And as anybody who listened to that podcast could hear
how much that meant to him, he's like, no,
at least like, I'm staying in Jacksonville
for the whole weekend just to hang out
because I'm gonna be at that 30-second card ceremony
where they call my name and I walk out onto the green
and make sure you get a big, and go out and yeah.
And he came to our dollar beers thing.
And he had a lot of dollar beers.
And lastly, personally, I got married in October
and understandably for a lot of reasons
that are happening in the world right now.
Like quite literally, every single one
of my out of town friends could not come to the wedding.
And I got a text from Max, and he's like,
hey, I gotta save the date, but I didn't get an invite.
Just wanna let you know, I didn't get it.
He did, but he just lost it.
And I was like, yeah, you know, sorry.
I was like, yeah, he looked.
He later made me say, oh, I found it.
I didn't expect him to come.
He's like, yeah, I think actually we're gonna come.
And like a month before the wedding,
he RSVP that he was gonna come to the wedding.
And it came out of nowhere.
At a time when no one was gonna be making the trip,
again, for understandable reasons,
he was like, yeah, I'll be there
and he hung out in Jack's book for the weekend.
So, what you're gonna hear for the next two hours
is not gonna be unbiased.
You quit it before it's not.
No, and I think that's totally fine.
Well, no, but you know what?
I felt like, so during that weekend,
so we played golf on Saturday morning
at Ponton Featuring Club.
Friday morning.
Friday morning and Neal shot his first under par around.
70 of all time.
And.
Would have been really good today out there.
Yeah, really good.
And Max, Max shot 65 set the course record.
That was cool.
And so he was playing the one up T's.
It didn't cut that short.
Which was like the third time I played with Max and it's like, yeah.
Like, yo, that was the course record.
No, like I didn't even keep score, man.
I didn't finish that.
But, like, I felt like I was actually, we were standing behind 18 green watching you come
in.
And I felt like I was, I was with him again watching him come in.
Like, it was like, man, some of the stuff
that you were saying about Neil is stuff
that he's thought about in his own mind.
You know, dude, I know how it is.
I know how it is to have that six footer.
I know how it is.
It's tough, man.
It's really tough, especially when you got the megabonus
that gorilla on your shoulders, man.
And you know what?
I want to say one other thing, well two things.
One, my fiance watched pretty much
the entire tournament with me and then Tron came over.
And it was because Max was involved.
She's like, oh, Max is, he's in second and she's in, right?
And she met him at Sally's wedding
and he's an easy guy to root for.
You know, she doesn't even like golf
and she just wants to sit down. She's living and's like she doesn't even like golf and it's like she just wants to sit down.
She's living and dying on every putt with us.
So it's awesome.
Which a lot of that felt,
this is not a hamster damn thing,
but this is where we've just been screaming about this
for three, four years now.
We're just like, hey guys, like show this fucking guy
in the broadcast, like come on man,
why are you not showing him?
You can tell at the end, Nancy.
People are gonna root for this guy. Nancy's only rooting for yeah, well, and it's not he's not great on
Social media that he's just like great. Well, that was a miss that's a media in the FedEx file
I can't believe they didn't put like
Active on social media Max takes their social media. It was it was Dodgers and Tommy LaSort
I was like come on come on give me a Twitter call out here
We're not done debriefing this, but I do want to talk a bit about well first of all Social media. It was Dodgers and Tommy LaSort. I was like, come on, come on, give me a Twitter call out here.
We're not done debriefing this,
but I do want to talk a bit about,
well, first of all, this is a great transition
because nobody practices harder than Max, right?
You guys have been practicing a lot.
Boys at Rapp Soto have been helping you a lot
with your practice routine.
I want to hear about it.
Give me the mmm, speaking of the country.
Well, I would say that's why when I saw the 127 number
into 18 for Max, I was like,
that was one of the numbers, I think DJ hit on the number.
I was like, God, that's too good of a number.
I know he's gonna hit that number.
DJ hit it on the rap photo, it's unbelievable.
RapSoto is a mobile launch monitor,
if you're not aware of this yet.
Streamly mobile.
We've got a, it might be too mobile.
We've got a video on our Instagram page
about these two, Neil and DJ doing a little distance
control contest.
It's about the size of a rangefinder, fits right on your bag.
You can use it to practice.
It's extremely accurate.
It gets within 2% of what, like, a $20,000 unit would get you.
And these things cost like $500.
And if you go to rapsoto.com forward slash NOU, use code NOU, you get $50 off that.
And a lot of you guys have been doing that.
So we greatly appreciate that.
Agile mobile.
It's really hot.
It's a useful tool.
It tracks your stats, it stores video,
it's a shot tracer in it, you can use it indoor
or outdoor, you can use it in a net.
Yes, Salisman is garage.
Yes, grind it with the rest.
So it's great.
It's great.
You say we're practicing a lot.
You're getting reps in the garage.
Of course I am.
It gives you your ball speed, your distance on all these things.
It gives you kind of a chart as to where you hit all these balls.
A immediate feedback.
It gives you a little video of your swing that you just made.
I can't speak highly enough about this.
It's repsota, RAP, SODO, forward slash NLU,
use code NLU for $50 off your unit today.
Going back to the Mac stories, just checking Twitter.
Remember when we were talking about, if we broke down how much he won at Wells Fargo for
Straps, $2,500.
It was Straps.
TJ Denwally, friend of the pod, said congrats on another 837 years of Straps.
Yes.
With today's victory.
Four a year, man.
That was the ultimate mega bonus today. And not to mention three more years, three year exemption.
Oh, that's an extra bonus here.
Extra bonus here.
That's right.
I'll be on tour forever.
The super season.
No, because it's invetational.
It's a elevated elevated.
Elevated.
He's still not elevated.
He's still not exempt for the champion's tour though.
Yeah, he gets through.
He needs to three.
Is he in the WGC now for next?
He is.
I thought you had to get to three.
No, they, I think they raised it.
I think it's, I don't know.
I think they're getting it off.
They're getting rid of Q school though for champions for, which is crazy.
Shout out to Mark Burk.
If Neil corrects Tron on champions tour, uh,
eligibility, he's talking to his sources.
No, it was always three.
And I think, uh, I think it. And I think it might be five now.
You have to have five.
With a change of four, five.
We're just kidding.
We're just getting this information now.
Oh my gosh.
So Ali, come on.
Help me out here.
Look it up.
I'm gonna be very impressed if that is the case.
I think it's still three now.
What was your, what did you guys do when he missed
the three-foot-four-inch putt on 18?
I felt like a jackass because I was really up close to my TV filming it
just to have the winning putt on my phone.
You walked right into the kill house right after that.
And then as soon as he missed, I put all my shit in my backpack.
I was at my house and drove over to the kill house.
Knowing we needed to change up the mojo.
I walked in the door.
Everybody's looks like their dog had died in here.
And I was trying to rev the troops up,
saying we're changing the momentum here,
don't trust the process, it's gonna be okay.
You know, it wasn't okay then shortly after,
but then it was okay, so that's what I did.
And for the people asking me who I was rooting for
between Fee now and Max, the fuck out here, right?
I don't need to be right that badly, okay.
It did, so when you hit the,
all right, what was your reaction
when you hit the ball up against the tree on 10?
Well, so can we go back to,
when you hit the ball to three,
you know, three feet, four inches.
Closest of the day.
From the fairway, closest shot of the day.
Kind of, you know, not a river magu pud,
but kind of a,
just a little bit. Just a little bit. A little bit of a snapper, but a river magu pud, but kind of a little bit.
Just a little bit.
A little bit of a snapper, but Fowdo said it up front, he said,
hey, you know, this is, I would say,
firm right half of the hole, firm right half of the hole.
And even four inches out, the pud looked like it was down.
Right?
Max, maybe he tricked me, tricked everyone.
Like, he looked so calm and like happy and there's no possible way
He could have been that calm, but he props because he did a really good job of pretending like he was
I thought there was no way he was missing that I've often thought about what my reaction would be if I miss a gag a putt
But you're like still in a playoff like how do you rally?
I would at WD yourself to do and he looked like he had the attitude of like,
if you'd have made that putt to get into the playoff,
how pumped would he be?
Like, you have to go to the playoff with that attitude.
Well, and that was the thing,
like, going back to the putt on 10,
like, how to almost trick yourself in the thing
and like, gosh, like, I just hit, like, I have second life.
I just hit this putt, or this shot from behind a tree
on the green and I'm everybody counting me out
and now I've got this, what was it?
Like 15 feet on 10?
I think it was closer.
It was 11 feet, nine inches or something like that.
And it's like, all right,
like how do you trick yourself into thinking
it looks like a basketball who, you know,
and I felt like you hit a pretty good putt there.
It just, you know, just didn't.
DJ said I was in TC territory, but I would say
that's the best shot.
I can remember like in recent memory for,
I would say that's the best shot I've ever seen.
Under those circumstances against that tree
with your, you know, trying to win at your favorite course.
Like, I just thought that was unbelievable.
And he put it to pin high from where he was
with 11 feet nine inches.
I thought he hit it way too hard.
Right off the, I was like, oh shit, this thing's in the bunker or this thing's, you know,
down the fairway there.
And then he just, and then they showed the slow mo and what he did with his, like the way
he turned his wrist over is like, that's why, like when you said the best shot of all time
was DJ's approach at Oakmont on 18.
It's like, that's it.
Yeah, that's it, but that's a stock shot.
It's like how often is Max practicing the up against the tree
hooded sandwich shot?
Like, this is like a whole that off.
It's like, oh my god.
Check it out, maybe at Vista Valunci.
That's true, that's a good call.
So the Max's shot on 10 was obviously an outrageous example
of this, but I had to say my notes of things to talk about
is when the course gets mega firm like this,
dude, I can't remember a week where I walked away
saying like, holy shit, these guys are so good
more than this week.
Some of the recovery shots,
some of the shots around the greens,
like the shot Sam Burns hit on six yesterday,
the bunker shot max hit on 10 yesterday,
like it's just like I've walked away,
I don't know, there was probably 15 times,
and I watch golf all week, every week,
for the last 15 years.
And I walked away this week, more than ever,
just being like, fuck, these guys are so good.
It is, I think that's what we're calling for
on a lot of the setup stuff, on a lot,
like that's, I know you can't do it every week,
but holy shit, man, like that's why you watch golf
is to see these guys recover
from just absolutely boned positions like that.
The mist put on 18 is a, it was not,
it is a reflection of how challenging it is to play 72 holes
on baked slippery greens with,
and I'm not joking with how thin the cut is on those cups
at the speed you have to hit the putts at,
that is so easy to lift that out.
And it is so freaking hard to control your run out
for 72 damn holes and have so many stressful five footers.
The two and a half footers on those greens are stressful
because you can't just ram them right in,
you gotta play the break.
And I said gagged earlier but I did not,
I don't actually don't believe that. I think you just maybe pulled it a little bit, but it wasn't
like this putt is a guaranteed make it that that can happen so easily. It revere.
Also, I think it like it's more about the, the can't and the, the slope of the greens
than is about the speed. Like it's, it's more about the firmness and being able to have greens that sloped
versus like, you can jack the speeds up to 14
on very, very flat greens
and that's not gonna test your stroke as much as.
Yeah.
We sell that at Pebble 2 where there's a lot of like,
you know, four or five footers that you're starting
well outside the hole and just pr praying that they come back and that's
It's just really fun to fun. I should females females
Find the how many wins dude
The champ is or is a car tell
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formulation and player handbook.
Sorry.
Please continue.
Are we ready to talk about Fino?
Do you guys have anything to say first is what I would open up?
We're not apologizing.
No, I'm asking for an apology.
I'm asking for anything to say.
I think Tony was extremely gracious after the fact.
You know, some people would say too gracious,
I don't think that's a thing.
I think he's knocking on the door.
He keeps knocking on the door.
It's crazy that they put up on golf central after.
It was, like in his last 120 or so starts,
he's had like 38.
Like 38 or 40 top 10s and he's had 21 top 5s.
It's that really rough.
It's easy.
Four wins.
Four wins now?
Four wins.
Wow.
Validated.
You shouldn't have changed it to five.
Not five though.
It's not five.
But it's Ricky's eligible.
It's four wins.
Fino not eligible.
That says, is the Puerto Rico open?
It says, no, Puerto Rico open does not count. Because it's a week as of it. Sorry, not eligible. That's as is the Puerto Rico open. It says no, Puerto Rico open does not count.
Cause it's a week as of it.
All right, please continue.
No, I just think Fino, like it's gonna happen.
Is it though?
I don't know if it is.
I think it is.
It's not like, well, so if there was a place
that it wasn't gonna happen,
it's a place with greens like Rivera, right?
Where he lasted so much longer than I thought he would this week,
where I would say somewhere with flatter greens, like market, right?
He was flawless to you to green today.
He was second in the Stroke's Game Pudding today too.
He was flawless period.
He was, that was an unreal round.
It was the, it was the let's get it round.
He went out and got it today.
And, but at the end of the day,
though, like, can you,
are you confident when Tony Fienaust
standing over a 10 foot putt in a playoff?
Did you say 10 foot or a three foot?
Because the answer's no either way.
Yeah, exactly, right?
Like it's, I mean, at some point,
he's got to get that,
he's got to turn that into,
well, before, hold on,
before DJ does the Dion dance.
He made like four must make putts to get into the playoff today.
I felt like it was, he made the putt on 16, which was six inches outside the whole and
down the hill.
That was the dirty.
That was the best he's ever putted.
Best of best found final ride he's ever played.
That's one of the best putts of the day.
Yeah, Max was pretty close.
That's a very similar putt and yeah, I didn't get it out there for.
So that's where it's just like, yeah,
it's almost a little reverse this week
where he didn't do enough early in the week
and a incredible final round still wasn't enough.
I thought for sure it was gonna be one of those,
you know, non-compete, like,
at the end of the day, yesterday,
like before they retreat off this morning,
what was he at, like 500?
Start of the day, five, yeah.
And so that's, you know, you're thinking,
all right, this is cute, again, Tony,
this is, you're doing your thing,
you're gonna, you might push it to nine or 10,
you'll eagle one, you'll probably birdie three or five,
and then you'll start backtracking a little bit.
And he didn't. So I feel like he's making progress. And it's not like,
like progress isn't like a linear thing. There's fits and starts and all that.
But I feel like at some point, like he keeps putting himself in position
to where it doesn't feel like scar tissue, right? Like he's not, he's not,
it doesn't seem like he's being affected's being affected by these, these shortcomings.
And I think that's the cool thing about watching him
and it's like, we've got this bit going and all that,
but like at no point do I, do I personally root
against Tony Fienel outside of that bit?
That's very well said.
That's a good way to put it.
What, so let me ask you this, Sali,
shoot 64 today.
Give me the data golf story today.
Do you have, like, what, what,
him in a playoff with Max,
and where Max was behind that tree,
what are the stats telling us he should make?
Because my eyes are telling me that
he has a 10 footer to win the tournament,
and then he's got another one to prolong it on the next hole.
And he doesn't make those.
And I don't know if the data's going to tell me that like, because we clutch
or not, right? We do need to talk about him coming up short on 18 on the approach.
I was a bad one because that felt like it was an amazing. But it was a great ship shop.
But all made those hell of a hard. But I want to know like, so this is where the,
this is where you can't tell to me, you can't tell the whole story with data
because I, and maybe I'm wrong,
but I would think that the models were saying,
oh my God, they're red alert, he's gonna win it.
So the betting markets went nuts when CBS zoomed in
and showed Max's ball up against that tree.
And I got a million texts like, oh my God,
can you put that break?
Like he's so, he's so boned.
And then Max was able to put a club on the ball
and get on the green. The camera angle, the way it showed it, they made it look like, and my god, can you put that break? Like, he's so, he's so boned. And then Max was able to put a club on the ball and get on the green.
The camera angle, the way it showed it,
they made it look like, and I definitely thought
Max was gonna have to hit it left hand,
they're talking about making left hand it swings,
that he was just got to punch it to Tony's ball
and get it up and down, is where I thought.
So at that point, it's almost assured
that Tony's not gonna lose on 10.
So the markets get skewed heavily towards him.
So it's like, basically, you can't really lose it here.
Your odds are going to go great, you're probably going to win it.
But when he lines up, he had chipped it to like eight feet, left to right or 50% putt on
the PGA tour, and it didn't go in.
So he had an opportunity to win it.
There's no doubt in that.
And then the putt on 60, I mean, the bunker shot was where he lost, or the T shot on 14's
where he lost it, not the putt.
I mean, you get a very good bunker shot either,
and you left himself a less than 50% putt at it.
And-
But the argument would be,
he had similar length putts back to back holes.
He's got to make one of them, right?
And his skill level and how good he is
and how the data golf stuff that you've cited
to me, The data boys.
A lot.
It's like,
data boys, the models would say he's gonna make one of those,
right?
One of those two puts.
That's the whole argument I've made about,
like, the data would say with the probability
of how often he gets in contention.
He should win one,
like, it should fall his world.
And it doesn't.
It doesn't.
I can't help you're truly ever dying.
I'm just trying to run out of here.
I know, you know, I mean, I kinda am,
but I'm just like, I see, I feel like I've been an innocent
bystander watching this street fight between you guys
for the last, I don't know, three months.
I've tried to stay out of the street fight,
and I'm like, I'm just like, I'm just like,
I'm sure I'm legitimately, I'm like, okay,
like, 20 females really good.
Partest is in the stands.
I know, I've like, I got my beer in the stands.
I just threw my coconut solid.
DJ's, DJ's got me in a headlock now.
I don't know what to do.
I feel like some of the stuff that was said privately today,
I feel like me and Solid, it kind of feels like the end of Rocky.
We're former enemies.
I feel like we're running down the beach together on a similar wave
like where listen, I'm sure there's many people out there that want me to
want me to dance on Fina's grave tonight, talk about all the reasons why
you can't get it done.
He was fucking amazing today.
He was outstanding.
He hit it as good as Max, I thought.
Like, I mean, it was really, really, really, really good.
And got, it was, it was surgical.
It was. And it was, to your point, John, like,
every time we're like, oh, this, the one he misses,
this is the one he misses, dude, he poured him in the center.
Yeah. And his, his, he tried, I don't know.
That's not at the end, he didn't pour him in the center.
Then that's how I'm like, you're saying that.
You can't do a lawsuit on repeat.
Is like, that's just odds falling back to,
you lost two coin for the same reason.
I almost felt like we can't judge,
and this sounds like a total cop out.
I can't believe I'm saying this,
but it almost feels like we can't judge Fina,
based on what happened in the playoff, right?
The tournament should have been over.
Some people were between the worst possible thing is that Max missed the putt
and they had to go to a playoff and then Fina lose it.
And then he beat him again.
Yeah, because if Max makes the putt, we don't sit here and we're not even having that conversation.
It's just like, you know, Fina shot 64 and it wasn't still.
It couldn't win.
Yeah, it's nuts.
It came from this far back and all that.
Could you have maybe wedged a little closer on 10?
Yes.
Could have, but still not a horrible shot.
Tightly skinny like, it's a tough spot.
You're like, I don't think I'm under this table.
I thought they kind of underrated that spot.
I do too.
He was awesome.
I mean, I will say, listen, he came out to start the week
if you want to get deep in the if you wanna get deep in the data.
Birdies three of the first four,
and then that was where his backpedal started,
finishes the day even par.
So, double in a bogey on two and three.
I'm not trying to get deep in the day.
I'm just trying to understand the...
Well, no, so I'm just, I think here's my thing.
I found that Sali makes a good case about Fino.
But then my eyes tell me that it's wrong.
Like that it's like, well, it just doesn't make it
when it's on the line.
Like he's gotta make the putt.
My body's tellin' me yet.
Yeah.
No, yeah.
So, I'm hards tellin' me no.
You know, but you've written for that argument for weeks.
And so I'm trying to understand like,
are you still riding for that?
I think there's a point of contention here
where if this is what he looked like on every Sunday,
this conversation never would have taken place.
If he did this every Sunday,
this was so far and away better than I ever,
and this is the best round I've ever seen him play.
That's where I'm sitting as progress.
That's why I think we're running down the beach again.
And progress on one of the best golf courses
in the world and one of the most prestigious events on tour.
It's like this was a, like this week was a win
for Tony Fino, in my opinion.
I don't think you can look at this and say,
it was a massive step forward.
Yeah, I agree with you.
I agree with you.
I'm going to have a lot, you know, a lot to go on
the positive for the list for the let's get it pot.
And it's very easy.
And this is where, you know, we might start running down the beach
at different paces on this.
It's very easy to say, you know,
when it doesn't happen down the stretch to do,
it's snowing outside my house, it's not climate change.
And point it, well, he made a bogey right there.
And he just comes up close to get,
well, he made a bogey right there.
And ignore four birdies that he made
even put himself in contention.
So my take is like fair.
72 whole tournament. This dude keeps lobbing shots at the top of the leaderboard. right there and ignore four birdies that he made even put himself in contention. So my take is like fair.
72 whole tournament.
This dude keeps lobbing shots at the top of the leaderboard.
And it's, and I feel like it's been painted that he can't get, like he chokes these tournaments
away.
He can't get it done at the end.
And the whole point has been like, he said some really weird luck.
He's had some bad play.
And then he's had some really, really weird bad luck at the end.
It's kind of like, how does this, like you can't throw this many shots at the board
and not win one? He's also had some really, really weird bad luck at the end. It's kind of like how does this, like you can't throw this many shots at the board and not win one.
He's also got some really, really weird bad play too.
At times he's had some bad play.
He's had bad in, so it's something.
I would say,
but the numbers show that he plays well in final rounds.
So it's this one away, he just came up short today.
Right, whereas in the past you've argued.
Yeah, no, this is where I would totally agree with all the numbers.
I agree that he plays better than average.
I've trust me, I've gotten plenty of tweets about it.
It's macro versus micro, right?
But I also see him like, he races to the top of leaderboard
and then makes like two sloppy ass bogeys.
And then he makes two birdies coming in, or that are meaningless.
And it's like net net, that's better than average.
Like we've seen that four or five times too, you know?
And so like, today was different though.
Today, like, almost was a round.
So I felt like,
are you willing to backtrack on your take
that you wouldn't want Fienal over Reed
on the Ryder Cup team?
No, I still won't read.
No, I would still won't read.
Okay, but that might just be for me.
I appreciate you asking that for an entertainment.
Yeah, well, I also said there's consequences.
Yeah, I kind of know if there's consequences
to your bit about Fienal.
You got my fiancee Carson called him Phoney T-Nail.
Which, I am not so worried about winning hearts and mums.
I'm not gonna let you guys use that
because you had a year to come up with that
and you never got it.
So, we never come up with it.
Car truck's name, somebody say.
That's what I'm saying, you don't get to use it.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I said, God, she comes up with this epic nickname
that they wins.
I'm like, man, we're not gonna be able to use that.
Exactly. All I'm like, man, we're not gonna be able to use that. Exactly.
All I'm saying to is, A, I don't think we're having this conversation.
If Tony plays Phoenix, I think he wins in Phoenix.
Well, you conceded that win.
That's true.
So if you had a wonder, you would have had to apologize.
I know, if you're right.
And if you wins concession, you still have to apologize.
No, no, we had to win two.
Oh, no, because it would have been two,
because we conceded Phoenix.
Yeah.
So he would have easily won Phoenix.
He was T2 in Saudi Arabia at the bone saw.
I'll have a new bet for you to propose for you at the end of next week.
But I will still say looking through his world golf ranking, his best performances thus
far, you're still seeing, you know, hero world challenge, solo second 2018.
Stuff like that, that's just, you know,
I need to see, keep it going, Tony.
Keep it going, baby.
Come on.
You're looking at official World Golf ranking points one.
That's not, I wouldn't say that's a,
the best performance isn't the official World Golf ranking
or not your best performances.
That's just most points, aren't it?
Oh, well, yeah, but yeah, but I'm looking at,
I mean, the Stonebrake classics on here.
So I'm, I'm seeing every single notable performance in his, in his career, right?
Like the, like the 20 best performances against the, against the best players in the
world. It's incredible that at the end of all of this bit, his last four finishes, fourth
T2, T2, solo second. It's a, it's a John Mahler. We have a streak.
What he's got gone 37.
Yeah, top 10s with no wins.
I mean, it's it's really, really strong.
I don't work.
It's fun to watch you two run off into the sunset together.
All right, all right.
Question for you.
Who wins first?
Speak or Fina?
I'm still with Fina.
The dude is, I would say, right now, Fino is one of the five best players
in the world. Yeah, I would agree with that. All right, five best players in the world. Who are
those? Yeah, you can't just throw stuff like that out. And then not I'd say he belongs with DJ
ROM JT. Is JT one of the five best players in the world right now? Now you're asking
the pocket of questions. I think he's one of the five best players. Is he one of the five best players in the world right now. I mean, like, I mean, like, I think he's one of the five best players. Is he one of the five best hottest players?
No, but like overall,
if they're team it up this coming week,
am I putting into the top five on top?
Five's kind of crazy.
DJ, ROM, JT, Zander, and Hatten.
Is the top five?
I take Hatten over Fino.
Really?
Yeah, I do.
I think so.
I mean, he's not only, he's hot and he seems like he gets it done at the end.
He's a stone cold killer to me.
Okay, okay, so that's gonna be an interesting, that would be an interesting heads up at the
Atory Pines.
So going forward.
So, so you're taking Fienel over Spieth, Neil.
Man, another, you know, our Kelly.
Is that our Kelly?
Who is that? My body? I think it is yeah
So something else might be telling yeah, they are sorry. I mean, well, that's yeah
He's a singer the song like I'm that not celebrating man. All right
The smart plays to take fina obviously the fun place
It's probably gonna win the main I'm a fun guy, I'm taking speed.
I remember what I was gonna say earlier.
Committing to the bit about Finault has enjoyed,
like that has made my golf enjoyment ramp up so much
and has make it as worse and mine.
That is, let's do the distraction for some.
Like God, I gotta talk about this again.
Maybe it's a zero sum game.
But that's like, you gotta create your own reality here, man.
If they're not gonna make the product
as entertaining as it could be,
you gotta do something on your own
to really live and things up.
And it absolutely has.
Well, I think Fienaal's streak is awesome.
And I kinda wanna keep going.
Like that's a root against them winning,
but it's like, man, that's an epic streak.
So I want to pick something.
What a root for history.
I wanna root for history.
I wanna root for what I want to happen, which I
want speak to win first. So I'm going to pick speak. All right,
solid. Another question for you. Fina or Morikawa to win first.
Fina. I'm like, I think I'm all my chips. I can't lose more.
This is kind of like a I own the bank situation. We have
bull. I can't pull any farther officer. I thought you were going to ask,
what should he do next week?
Should he go play Puerto Rico
or should he play the WGC concession?
He's the bylaws state that he cannot even show up
in Puerto Rico.
Which broke my heart.
Yeah.
Absolutely shadowed me.
I can't remember who it was a few years ago.
They said, like, it was like DA points or something like that.
Like he had one.
That was a DA was going to play here at the
opposite field event and they couldn't let him go and skip the WGC even though nobody
would have ever allowed him or like ever noticed that he was going to be apart from that.
So yeah, first sure going to win a session.
Yeah.
The WGC's are sacred.
Yeah.
It's true.
I got to say I'm he willing.
The bits been very fun. I felt like the he will win. The bit's been very fun.
I felt like the bit, this was a fun conclusion to the bit.
I'm ready for Fina to win now.
Like, it was like an all boats ride.
It really, really was.
I really didn't want him to win today, of course,
for very obvious reasons, but now it's getting to the point
where it's like, okay, listen, I've had my phone with that.
Fina, you seem like an awesome guy.
I'm ready for it to happen.
And my session kind of seems like it might fit really well.
My only reason I really,
like what have wanted Tony to win
is I had a good,
I ready like warrior meme of,
I've won, but at what cost?
Truly.
Because of course we really, really want to match.
DJ's kind of in the,
it's like in Rudy when the O line starts rooting for Rudy.
Exactly.
They hate him,
like God this guy keeps going so hard.
It's not just respective, he keeps giving back.
Now it's like, all right, you know what, he's gonna what?
I gotta give this guy some credit now.
Exactly.
He's starting to slow clap on the practice field.
I can't speak for Randy.
Randy, you know, I just been, Randy's my brother in this,
he's been locked step with me in this anti-feedout thing.
So I can't speak for him, but, you know,
I saw plenty today that I was like, you know what,
this guy clearly deserves.
He deserves some PJ Tour of W's.
Randy's one of the guys in the villages
that nobody's gonna see him for four years
and you should come out and, you know,
Fina might be the number one player in the world
and be like, no dude, Fina still, he's a fraud,
he's a fraud.
He has no idea he's the number one player in the world.
But I don't understand how Fina,
he's 15th in the world golf ranking prior to this week.
You want him to get me start on the world golf rankings?
God, it seems like it's under rating Fienault a little bit, right?
I don't know what his problem is,
he was chasing the points in Saudi Arabia.
He was trying to manipulate,
he was trying to do everything,
what a one-mace-fit waste management though.
That's true.
I was so much to talk about.
Can we talk about the bass master?
Can we get into the Saturday?
Yeah, please.
I want to talk Saturday.
I need you guys to fill me in on everything
that went down Saturday.
I get off the golf course and just, first of all,
the first thing I see is the putt that you can proudly hit.
And I swear to God, I have never happened to a worse person.
I have never laughed so hard at golf club in my entire life.
It was so funny to somebody that hadn't seen it yet.
It just rolls and rolls on the putt on 10,
rolls and rolls and then goes between the bunker.
That's what shocked me.
I was like, how did that happen between the,
it was that guy in the bunker like on a string.
And then he got it up and down.
Well, congrats to him.
I laughed so hard. Which props, yeah. That string and then he got it up and down. Well congrats to him I laughed so hard. That was disgusting up and down
So play gets called on Wednesday. I get I understand there was some reaction amongst the group as to
On Saturday. I'm sorry some reaction here that that should not have happened
Let me ask this before we get into this who was actually actually watching? Because I was watching everything before it was canceled,
all the way through the delay.
I watched on Thursday and then I didn't watch much on Friday.
And then I was like, I had shit blocked off on my schedule.
You know, Alex, you're watching the kids.
You're, you know, my mother and I was coming over
all this stuff.
And then it was like, what?
I think there's two arguments as far as what happened.
So obviously what happened was they suspended play due to wind
and we can...
Oh, it was due to coarse setup.
We can unpack all of that.
Yes, it was.
And so that's the biggest thing that I saw in the mentions
was the obvious misunderstanding of why they canceled it.
It wasn't because the winds were too high.
It's because the balls aren't staying still in the green.
Like those two things obviously go hand in hand. So the green were too fast. The greens are too fast. Or the pins were too high, it's because the balls aren't staying still in the green. Like that's those two things. Obviously, going in and in.
The greens were too fast.
The greens are too fast.
Or the pins were in the wrong spots.
Or the players might say a mix of both,
but mostly the balls aren't staying in the green.
They're never gonna put the pins in the wrong spots
on a Saturday and the PGA tour though.
Like it's gotta be green speeds.
And that's where,
it's all you bring this up on the spot all the time.
Like the PGA tour messes this up so little,
like they push it over the edge so
infrequently that for this to happen, I like it is very rare.
It hasn't happened since the day we met in, uh, St.
Ed.
It's right.
That was absolutely that wasn't the PJ tour.
Well, that was the RNA.
But that was a similar like real officials.
Let's get these greens going a little bit to challenge these players.
And then when the wind blows too hard, the ball doesn't stop.
Blackout. Let's talk about it.
So we got we could
Oh, glittering. So to the player was like, please don't we?
We're in play.
St Andrews and every bar in St Andrews.
You just what you just started bar hopping.
Well, I got I literally flew in that day and I got there got two St Andrews for my first ever open championship
The horn and we had no first ever open championship. Burr. They blow up the horn.
And we had no, we drank for 15 hours.
We drank from noon until 3 a.m.
and we had a 6 a.m. t-time the next day
and we did not make it.
So that's the KVV one.
Yeah, it came to be try to wake me up.
Did not make it.
But how's happened to long time?
So going back, like I do,
that's why I'm so much,
I'm so sensitive to the never air on this side of things.
And I don't want to vilify them.
Exactly.
We're airing on this side of it.
Because walking off and reading everything, I was, I was so confused as to like, bro,
we cannot have this both ways.
We cannot have them push the setup.
And then when the ball start blowing off the greens, get upset if they, but I think
there's a difference between firmness and speed.
I think what I saw with those wins, they weren't close to being able to play.
Like not like, hey, if we didn't cut and roll in this morning, we would still be able to play.
I did not feel like that.
And I don't think if they, I don't think they could have made Thursday, Friday,
easier with this forecast.
Like we would have been on them for that.
Like you can't preemptively make it easy on these days in fear of the wind picking
up Saturday. That's where I ended up settling was like, I'm extremely frustrated, You would have been on them for that. Like, you can't preemptively make it easy on these days in fear of the win picking upside.
That's where I ended up settling was like, I'm extremely frustrated, but only that I can't
watch golf.
Like, I don't know that this was, I think this was probably the right decision to cancel
this.
It sucks.
And yeah, maybe they couldn't have rolled the, you know, cut and rolled greens.
Maybe that would have made a difference, but I don't know enough to know that one way
or the other, but I was mostly just pissed that I couldn't watch it because it would have been awesome. And for
the 30 seconds or two minutes or whatever, it was popping off. It was the best golf I'd watched all year.
It was unbelievable. Like it was able to be greening themselves, balls rolling all over the place.
Max hits that the one on number one to a foot for a tap and eagle while the whole world's fallen
apart. I mean, it was just it was unbelievable. was like the horn blows. It was like that Ron Paul. It was.
It was all happening. It was all happening. And then I think well, it was just surprising,
like hearing the horn, like it never crossed my mind. Sunny day and L.A. Stop that play was going to
stop. And yeah, it was. Well, so that's where I get is, is think it's very much, like, all right, because Sunday they didn't cut the greens.
Right?
I don't think they cut the greens this morning.
So, they did not cut the greens.
That's what they said in the broadcast anyway.
And that's after watering the shit out
over me yesterday afternoon.
Which by the way, didn't affect the viewing experience.
Exactly.
But, and it didn't affect the firmness all that much either.
Didn't take my time.
So, I think at some point,
like everybody seems to think,
oh, you know what, like they're just doing
what you guys want them to do.
And it's like nobody's clamoring for like the fastest greens
in the world,
nobody's clamming for 13, 14, even 12 in the stint meter.
I just want to see the ball hop.
We just wanted to be firmer to where it's not going to like,
be like throwing darts with wedges all the time.
And that's the thing that gets me is like, you know,
I mean shit, even Max's wedge into 18
on the 72nd hold today, like that was,
that thing hop five, six, seven feet in the air
and then thought about backing up a little bit,
but really didn't that much.
Get back a little, but not.
It's an exciting moment when that four foot hop happens
and you're like, is it gonna catch?
Is it gonna catch?
That was like feign out.
And we've frayed today.
Yes, that's tough.
And that was on a green that they watered the hell out of.
And, and, and,
and, and,
I understand that so much has to go right
and mother nature has to cooperate and all that.
But at the end of the day,
it's like the fact that they saw the forecast,
knew that they were gonna be crazy wins.
I mean, Chip, people were looking at the forecast
on Tuesday and Wednesday and saying,
this weekend's gonna be crazy, man.
And then the fact that they still cut and roll the greens
on Saturday morning.
And then kind of-
They did do that officially, They cut and rolled Saturday.
Yeah, yeah.
And then kind of throw their hands up.
Like, guys, there's nothing we can do.
It's like, fuck you, man.
Let me.
You know, it's like, like, at some point, yes.
Like, it probably was gonna be over the line anyway,
but you guys didn't help yourselves at all here.
So you're, but you, you just said
you shouldn't want it taken to task
because you wanted to push the whole way. I know, I don't don't want to listen. I don't want to take the task. So the
last thing I want to do here, Neil, it's the last thing I want to do because I've already
heard it. No options. No, it's a tie. I've already heard that they're, that they're terrified
of concession next week, even though it rained all week this week. I got good news on that front. Soft. The membership has told me.
They're slowing the green step out
for the PGA tour of it,
because they have the member guest the next week.
Oh my God.
And they want us out for that.
Question about Sunday setup.
Do you think Saturday impacted Sunday?
Saw a lot of under par scores.
Do you think they kind of like really laid off
the accelerator?
Well, just not mowing the greens today.
Like, yeah, I'll actually hear that.
Like putting a funnel hole in one pin on six.
Like, yeah, that probably helps.
Yeah, I would say it was set up brilliantly.
It was awesome.
And the viewing, I was streaming it yesterday evening.
First of all, first of all, when weather is an issue,
CBS, all of the sudden becomes awesome.
Like, when they get their commercial loads reduced,
like they flow so good viewing it was so much better
than today.
Yes, of course.
The Saturday evening viewing when that course was going,
the wind was still blowing some.
That was pre-mel.
Like it was mega light.
Yes, mega light at Rive, going into the night.
And PGA tour live this morning was like,
was like one of the best viewing experiences of the year.
I asked it, one point of that.
Have they shown a commercial?
I haven't noticed that if they have,
like it's really flowing that hard.
So that was, I thought the camera angles were awesome.
I mean, let's just roll this into hamster dangles.
I think it's gonna be a nice hamster.
It's positive.
Aside from photos, stuff.
They were using the 8K camera that they used for NFL cameras are insane.
The blue cams and the ground level gimbal cam week to week has been a nice
issue. I like they're using more handhelds. They're they're doing more to show the
the actual like context. I will. I feel like they were a little off on the shot tracer today.
Yeah, it's shot.
You were seeing I'm coming into 18 you can see the ball here onacer today. Yeah, it's shot tracer's long. Shot tracer's long. I think you were seeing, coming into 18,
you can see the ball here on the right.
And you're like, yeah, that line's over here.
You guys are making it up.
No, I thought you were just talking about
like when shot tracer shows up first,
as when it goes.
Well, it was a little spotty just on the volume.
But I was talking about like the actual,
like there was one, I think,
I can't remember what whole fenal hit it.
I was like, oh, that's going left.
And then it came up like right on the front corner of the green. And I was all phenyl hated. I was like, oh, that's going left. And then it came up right on the front corner of the green.
And I was all jacked up because I was like,
that's, you know, he just...
You're bad, Kay.
Well, no, go.
Max, come on.
So that's right.
I was like, yeah, that shot trace was off, right?
There were a few, and I don't feel that way
week to week normally.
I love the PGA Tour live shot tracer.
It looks like a kid just opened up Microsoft Paint
and started drawing on there.
It looks so low budget.
I'm not making fun of it.
I still love it.
I still want it.
No, I got genuine red shots.
I'm in on the bare bones stuff that comes with PGA tour live.
Image quality is not as sharp.
I doesn't really bother me.
If they show, they do such a good job with that
when they have the emergency coverage today.
And it's progress.
A lot of pro, like listen to this conversation
we're having versus like five years ago.
Fowl though made the Genesis land of confusion joke,
at least four times.
So I wanna, that was not good.
But I learned that.
I'll yield the rest of my time.
Sure.
Tombo today was, I saw there's sideburns going on.
Fowl's sideburns are like,
they're out of control.
It's like all red alert on the other things.
Moan rolled aside.
Those, the, that's gonna be my bet proposal by the way
Okay, look at there. Yeah, I was bummed for the for the Genesis guy having a shirt
You know being full of clothes. He was taught yet. Yeah, as well. Yeah
And then we saw the cat. Well, no, that's a rock. Yeah, we'll talk cat in a bit here. I think
I they were all saying the right things
on Saturday as well,
with in beginning of the telecast today,
as far as, hey, we wanna see it firm,
we wanna see less rough,
and we wanna see just better,
like just more execution of golf shots
instead of land and stop kind of thing.
Dottie, Frank, Ian, all those times.
They did have like a two minute exchange that was awesome.
That was great.
Yeah, and it was like all of them were totally unleashed
and said whatever that was on their mind.
It almost felt like they, you could almost hear
the relief in their voice.
I've been waiting to say this.
100% out.
I've been waiting to say this.
I'm glad I got to say it.
I watched a lot more Thursday Friday than I'd probably
usually do and they were like, they were loose, man.
They were joking around with each other.
They're giving each other shit.
I don't want to encourage that,
because it's not funny.
Which they're sensitive to humor and not good.
But at least it was like, all right, man,
it's at least it's better than the usual.
Just because, because lances, I don't know.
I just know there's no despot.
Well, no, I think it's just like a breath of fresh air
that regardless of who's in there,
I think sellers shy is doing a really good job
because like it does feel like there's a renewed sense
of purpose and a renewed sense of just new energy.
Like ownership of it of like,
hey, like we give a shit.
We are proud of our products.
It seems like they're embracing the process a little bit.
And I think going back to even as far as Nance. Nance feels like there's a weight off
of his shoulders and he's more free and he's just talking more freely about everything
that's going on instead of yielding to Fowdo to talk about nonsense or this or that.
I don't know. I just feel like Nance is more free to-
I feel that way. I feel that way. I feel that way.
I feel that way. I feel that way.
I feel that way. I feel that way. I feel that way. I feel that way. I feel that way. I feel that way. I feel that way. I just feel like Nancy's, I feel that was more freed up. The Noble O2, I think Noble has been awesome recently as well.
Yeah.
Since they are listening, I would say one thing I want to see in a,
we know it's a blessing.
Because they're actually responding to some of these things.
It's taken a few years, but next advancement I want to see is,
they've done such a great job honestly in the last several years of golf.
Pro Tracer, the little golden tee thing on the side
that shows the ball in the air.
This score, this scoreboard on the bottom right.
Scoreboard on the bottom right.
The next frontier is strokes game.
Even for a die hard like myself, strokes game
is hard to understand.
When I see Tony Fiena'll hit a tee shot,
I have no idea what he's gained.
So while the ball's rolling out,
maybe if it's in that shot scope on the right.
Do a man get in the context?
Do like, hey, a gain of point one is right here in this line, gain of point two right here, gain of
point three, you hit in this bunker, it is minus point four. And like, start to illustrate
where shots are gained and lost on the PJ tour that you're going to help illustrate why
driving distance is important, what accuracy really means, where the death spots are, where
the good spots are. I think that would help people
a lot, because they default to a definition of,
that's fine there, and that's gonna be trouble there.
And I think there's a lot in between that.
That's an outstanding idea.
You gave a shout out today on Twitter too,
sorry about the A on risk reward challenge.
How great was that?
Excellent.
It was an additive.
Yes. Number 10.
If you lay up, you know, people make a little, little worse than par. There's all the hot spots.
Here's the goat. You got to go for it. Yes. And maybe, you know, maybe the drivers go too long
and too straight. You know, there's no, there's no risks to it. But like that's great info for me.
I was locked into that segment, Especially when for a very casual fan
who doesn't watch very much golf
or whatever, seeing where Max's ball ends up to hear it.
Like that probably stops a lot of them for me.
Like what the fuck, why doesn't he lay up?
What's he doing?
You don't have to go for it, you know?
It's, yeah, it's, it's additive.
It makes the viewer smarter, which is the goal.
100%.
I have one hamster damn thing.
Before we move off of that,
I was thinking the exact same thing
on the driving distance stuff for watching Dustin.
Like watching how he was driving the ball is like, dude, someone needs to put this in context house.
As you said, he was in absolute God mode between like Friday and Saturday.
It was unbelievable seeing how he was driving the ball.
Well, we'll talk about the bass bass bass bass.
He may have got smited after that.
So, and I said this on Twitter, this is unrelated to the actual tournament.
Weather delay.
We see last year's replay.
I like, yes, I want to watch live golf.
But I was kind of into it.
I was like, oh man, you know, I, you don't remember it from last year.
I think that's just because you didn't watch last year.
No, I did watch last year, but why don't they show those if you paid $700 million or whatever
the number is,
it seems like a good business move
to maximize your investment.
Why is there not at least a cut down hour to two hours
on a Monday or Tuesday night of last year's tournament
to get me ready for this year's tournament?
I would check in with that weekly.
They do that.
I mean, they do that very sparingly.
Well, why isn't it a feature thing? Like every Tuesday night from eight to 10?
Like, I mean, and I said this on Twitter and it's like,
Sky Sports does it. Okay. That's like, so I don't understand.
Like if you're paying that much money for it, you would think that you would want to
the only time they open up that vault for old tournament, they end up, they'll show like the
players from, you know, whenever like sometimes you see classic golf, which is awesome. They had the 2013
players on this week. Yeah, but you can only do that so many times. And I think there's,
I think there's two things going on here. I think a lot of those replays are based upon,
you know, ratings that didn't get met. So they're part of a sponsor contract
to where, hey, you guys get a replay on golf channel
at this time because you didn't meet a 3.0 or whatever.
But think about like the way we look at like
wild war golf or something, like they live on our,
you can access them at any time.
Like why wouldn't you want to,
this thing you paid hundreds of millions of dollars for,
why wouldn't you, at the very least, just replay it?
Or if you're smart, like package it,
here is a cut down version.
Like I'm legitimately asking.
So I'm gonna challenge how much you actually do
on a watch this because the PJ Torg does have a thing like this, which is called like PJ Tour Rewind
or something like that that you basically like subscribe to
and you can watch old rounds.
First I'm hearing this.
Exactly.
But I would say on golf channel,
a channel that seems to be struggling
for original content that people wanna watch.
I'm saying I doubt that that's what's holding it up
but who knows, maybe it's like a,
why would we, you know, allow golf channels
to run this stuff all over the place
when we're trying to monetize it over here
and do this on demand thing?
Might be part of it, don't know.
I doubt that that's the case, but it's the possibility.
And two, like, it has to do some,
like, it has to have something to do with rights and stuff.
I don't know if the rights are carte blanche,
just like sign the check and they do what I want.
It's not CBS, because CBS is paying all this money.
God, it's so much money.
And the tour, yeah, but-
You've got that not included unlimited redistribution.
But CBS is never the one putting this back up.
It'd be the tour putting it back up.
And at some point, all right, what do I want to watch?
I want to watch the five,
I'm not sure if it was five or six man playoff from, it was like Charles Howell and Phil, right?
Alan B and Brando. Yeah, awesome. And you know, there's just like, there's so many
rate. There's so much random stuff I want to watch from the 80s and 90s and just setting
the stage for these events and seeing how these events have-
I'll tell you why they don't do that though.
It's sponsors, right?
Sponsors change.
So, can't show the niece on open.
They don't want to give niece on how jacked up
does everyone get when the master's puts that on YouTube
to watch anything from like 1960 on.
It's like that everybody goes nuts for that.
I don't know.
And this is- How can you not fit?
It seems like there's value there.
What I'm getting at is like,
if I'm thinking about it from a business standpoint.
And so let's look at next year, ESPM Plus, right,
is taken over the streaming stuff.
And like, I'll never give them access
to anything in the vault of what they're...
There couldn't be some type of rev sharing going on.
Like it just feels like there's something.
I don't know.
Maybe I'm trying to do someone else's job right now,
but it just struck me to, all right.
Maybe I'm sorry, I'm getting lost in the sauce.
I don't get why they wouldn't do,
I mean, I know this is what you're saying,
but like you mentioned brandels in that play off the LA open.
Like, even just like,
why not just like sitting down with brandel,
cutting it down to an hour and just being like oh yeah earlier in the week
I had this going on. I remember this this guy
On stuff as you need totally like I don't know why gosh that seems like talk about sponsored money
Like how is somebody not sponsoring that show? It seems to it would it cost sit down with max at this time next year
And you're like hey man, let's go through you round. What shots are you most nervous about what were you thinking?
What were you thinking here? What do you look at sound-
Tony say during the playoff.
What it, like, God, I mean,
sound effects that NFL films does?
Where they yes, they like to act the guys up.
The following week, it's like, hey, here's the best sound clips
from, the tour is three, four, five, six, 10 years
behind the times.
There's so much you have hours and hours, days of content.
It's a lot easier in my mind to
recut, repurpose, reuse what you already have
and add a little bit like you're saying,
add a little bit of analysis over it.
And then on Twitter, a lot of responses to what I said
were, well, why don't we have,
why don't we do something with the practice rounds? Like, I think that's a great idea. It just seems like Monday, were, well, why don't we have, like, why don't we do something with the practice rounds?
Like, I think that's a great idea.
It just seems like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
I almost find myself wanting to put on the golf channel,
but then I turn it on and I'm like, man,
I don't really want to watch, like, just interviews.
I don't want to watch them talking.
I want to watch them playing golf.
And you have all this old golf for me to watch.
Why can't I watch that?
And it's all about the subscription thing.
So maybe I would,
I mean, that would not even exist anywhere.
That was there when I worked there.
It's all additive to like getting someone
to watch this year's telecast.
Exactly, it would set up the course for me.
It would remind me and then it would help.
And then they want to get into the live bedding and everything.
It's like, well, oh my God,
you know, I forgot that.
Coacher played well last year and I. It's like, well, oh my God, you know, I forgot that. Cooture played well last year.
And I forgot, Adam Scott won last year, right?
It's like, oh my God, yeah, you know,
horses for the course here.
So it just feels like a miss, sorry.
So that's my hamster, damn.
That was truly a hamster, damn.
Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
Going back to the tour though, I think, you know,
like what should the tour have done?
I'm glad that they didn't just call the roundoff
and restart and just throw everything out.
There was so much culture there.
Everything out.
Yeah.
But, you know, it just seemed like, you know,
it seemed like a little bit fly by to see their pants too,
where they said, hey, we're gonna,
we're gonna postpone it for the next hour.
And then nothing substantively changed.
And then they said, hey, we're gonna go back out.
And then all of a sudden, no, we're calling it off
for another 90 minutes or two hours.
And then they said, well, some piece of communications
equipment fell and blamed it on that.
And it's like, no, just just, just tell the fucking truth,
like the balls wouldn't stay on the greens, right?
Like, TC's on his well-spit.
You did it truth!
Tell the truth!
No, but just like, don't, don't, don't say it's because some,
some random piece of PGA tour live or, you know,
something fell over on the 14th hole.
Just, just say, hey, the balls aren't staying on the greens.
Yeah, I think.
PjTorri won might not exist anymore.
I'm not really sure.
It looks pretty bleak.
There's 1,300 subscribers on YouTube.
KD YouTube.
We'll investigate.
We'll investigate the fridge.
Okay, so even that though,
you're gonna, you're gonna prevent golf channel from,
I'm saying that prop may not be the case.
I'm just trying to think of any reason to why.
Okay, so you're trying to drive.
Let's say it was a paid subscription or maybe it's golf TV maybe they have have it and I just I don't I'm not a golf to TV subscriber but well that's international stuff also.
I still know about it guys they can't even get people are.
I'm just saying the live stuff I'm just saying how how maybe in the negotiations it's like man you know it would be super valuable for for the $700 million is like if we could play the alternatives.
Like that would be, how is that not part of it?
Somebody, somebody answered my question.
I'm going nuts over here.
Because they would just go charge you more.
It's not included in the set.
I'm putting on how their mind works.
I know, but it seems like even that stuff to me would, you know,
you would make more ad money on those.
But nobody thinks long term.
It's all short term.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. I'm lost in the sauce right now. Let's please move on. Maybe the bass be, I don't know. But nobody thinks long term. It's all short term. Sorry, I'm sorry.
I'm lost in the sauce right now.
Let's please move on.
Maybe the bass master, you tell me so.
Let's talk about the cat.
Oh, God, please.
The cat makes an appearance in the booth.
Let's not raise any conjecture about the cat.
We can't prove anything.
This is all legit.
This is all legit.
I'll just ask you, did the cat look good too?
He didn't look good.
Did he sound good to you?
He did not sound good.
No, he didn't.
Guys, people are on me.
That's what they're saying.
You know what I see?
Why are you bumping this?
Why are you bumping this?
I don't wanna do that.
No, that's the last thing you wanna do.
He looked like he was, he looked awful.
He looked like he was feeling good.
He looks, he looks good.
He's like Neil.
When he shows up on screen,
you don't know what he's gonna look like.
You don't know what his look is.
Is he gonna be fit?
He's gonna have the goatee,
he's gonna have the thin, the light here what his look is. Is he gonna be fit? He's gonna have the goatee, he's gonna have the thin beard.
Yeah, the sharpie beard.
Thank you.
No, seriously, any sharpie beard.
Do the sharpie beard.
Do the sharpie beard.
Yeah, comparison to the cat.
I mean, I'm honored.
Because sometimes you just look,
shows up just looking fit like an athlete and clean
and sometimes got long hair.
I remember last year at this very tournament,
after his round, I was like,
God, he looks so skinny and just like,
he looks dehydrated and just washed out.
And this, he was like leanin' forward into the camera.
It looked like-
He looked like someone who had just had back surgery.
Yeah, that's true.
It looked like an interview from 2016.
Like, when you gonna be like,
well, God, I hope so.
I hope I'm there, I'm so excited.
And Jim, I'm just just,
I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just'm gonna be a hope I'm there. I'm excited. And Jim, I'm just gonna just put a little,
he looked a little like he had his,
like a piece of paper.
I'm still in a gym.
You could tell he's reading off,
like, look like he was preparing for that interview
at the last minute.
It almost felt to me like all week.
They were like, we'd love to get Tiger in the booth.
And it was like 10 minutes before Tiger was in the booth,
he agreed to it.
Yeah, we don't know how he's gonna be.
So let's just, yeah, exactly like, well, Tiger's not to it. Yeah, we don't know how he's gonna be, so let's just... Yeah, exactly.
Well, Tyre's not really feeling very good
and we don't know if we want to put him in the booth.
And so it was almost like,
it felt like a fire drill there with Nance and Tyre.
Like Nance was kind of,
he was asking really long drawn out questions,
he was, it didn't feel like that was expected in a way.
Yeah, it didn't feel cheery.
No, it didn't.
All right, should we talk about Dustin?
It was, Tron said this to our group,
group, I mean, it's just really weird to,
and unsettling to see him out of sorts.
That was a bummer to, you know,
kind of felt like his to lose a little bit.
I felt like getting in that final group
and, you know, with how well he's been playing,
with how much he's won, with how good he's won with how good he's been at
Riviera with how inexperienced Sam Burns was like it felt like a very dust and it's gonna go
run away with this thing and it's just really from like the when he didn't make birdie on one it was
almost like whoa that's that was kind of unsettling yeah what's going on yeah and I just never really
found his footing it's sucked. Goal you, those rounds are not very far away when the
conditions are like that. It's the exact round that's going to,
if you're a little off, like it's going to punish you on repeat,
on repeat, on repeat, and you're just going to kind of be like
treading water, and there's no real way to go. But the golf course was set up so
well for just like, if you are tactical and hit your right spots,
you're going to take this place apart. But if you're missing the wrong spots, if you're off,
and if you're getting the stickiest of the icky,
the cacooia, then it's gonna get you.
It's gonna get you.
What was his fairway percentage?
He had five of 14 on Sunday.
He lost almost a shot off the tee,
which when DJs lose and strokes off the tee,
that's a bad spot.
The fish just weren't bite.
I was gonna say, we're on the same wavelength.
His driver's been a complete get out of jail free card.
He just got himself into trouble off the tee today.
And it was almost like he didn't know what to do.
He's like so used to hit it, so good off the tee.
He got snagged in a couple branches,
for sure, with the lures.
I think that wind changes and they just stop biting.
There's only so much you can do. You you just got to kind of wait for it to wait for it to turn around and
Sometimes you go home empty-handed the best master thing works even better when he's got that hoodie on
Gator it's like god, man, it's too good shout out to Bunky Perkins straight up so good. I'm looking at the
I'm looking at the leaderboard. I had no idea Victor Hauvin finished T5. That's so good. I'm looking at the, I'm looking at the leaderboard.
I had no idea Victor Halvin finished T5.
That's first time hearing of this.
I didn't see a single shot of his in the last two days.
I think they showed him at the very,
I think they flipped it at the bottom,
showed him at the very last minute.
The Fred X Cup is just, it's a complete, it's a boat race.
Oh, we're not talking about that.
I'm trying to be honest.
I've traded million Sundays like today.
I'm not sure.
A million Fred X couple of losses.
We're not doing that.
I would, you know who else I'd like to talk about?
The Mangy Dog.
Camp Smith.
Yes.
God, he's total dog.
T.C. called it today.
Total dog.
He's a dog.
He's a dog.
He might be a stray dog.
He's a stray animal.
You don't know what he's gonna do.
He's unpredictable.
Super unpredictable.
Hasn't had shots, baby.
Who knows?
But he's trying to mix it up with everybody.
He's trying to get in the mix. He is. He's a gamer, man. I like watching him play. He shot on 16, 17.
Like, he almost made it to. He's going after dogs bigger than him. He doesn't, he doesn't care,
man. He's just willing to, he's willing to get in the ring. Does he play a draw or a fade? I've
always pictured him as a fader. I've always pictured him as a fader. And then they got to 10. He's like,
he's gonna play a fader.
That's going against his normal shot shape.
I was like, I don't ever remember
watching seeing Cam Smith play a draw.
That's a good question.
I don't know how to do that.
He just puts well.
It doesn't matter how he gets the ball to the green.
He did not put, did not put well at 17.
That was cool.
I thought he had the cover still on the potter.
What do you mean he made potter?
That was tough putt.
Yeah, he actually lost strokes putting this week.
He struck the shit out of the ball,
but did not have the fodder go in this week.
How about Cocrack lighting up a volunteer this morning?
That was awesome.
I want to ask him to assist.
He, somebody's on a cart or something
as he's getting ready to chip
and he like turns and yeah, he's like,
you can't be moving back there, hits his chip
and then there's a bad chip and as he's walking through the green to his caddy, he's like, you can't be moving back there, hits his chip, and then there's a bad chip,
and as he's walking to the green to his caddy,
he's like, how about that guy?
Like you can't just walk wherever you want,
like very clearly picked up by the mics.
Like it didn't, and the commentators were even all over it.
They're like, ooh, it didn't look like he shook that off
very well before he hit that shot.
We may need to institute a new McKenzie Hughes,
and it called the Jason Cocrack,
74-74 on the weekend to not win
After being in the final group. You know what we're not gonna do that. It's gotta be at least 77 77 Okay, anything else from Riff or can we put a bow on? I would I would like to say
One thing about the course. I said this morning on thread when I I don't know why the maybe it's the California light and
on our thread. When I, I don't know why the,
maybe it's the California light and the trees.
I love the spooker.
They you go into the trees.
And the first tee with the view out
from the, from the top tee box there,
I, it made, it's one of the few courses on the PGA tour
that I look at and say,
I wish I was playing golf today.
And I don't say that,
I really don't say that that often.
Like no offense to someplace like Bay Hill,
but I'm like, no offense to anyone.
Really?
Like I don't, when I, when I see him tee and I like, when I turn to someplace like Bay Hill, but I'm like, when... No offense to anyone. Really, like I don't, when I see him tee
and when I turn on coverage of Bay Hill,
I'm like, I'm like excited to watch the golf,
but I'm not excited to be like,
I don't, it doesn't make me like,
oh, you're into play.
And that's something about the course makes me...
I love that you had to do no offense to Bay Hill.
Like was Bay Hill gonna be very offended by that statement?
Honestly, probably, yeah.
Yeah, no, maybe they are, but...
And it might be the, I mean, Harvard time.
Maybe FAA, that's interesting.
Going to Orlando, maybe it's part of like,
ah, I wish I was, you know, California's fun to visit
and there's like an aura.
Oh, a pebble.
Like, no offense to pebble.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, no offense to anyone covered that.
But that's not, no, T.C., that's a good point.
Like, pebble, I see pebble and I would say pebble
probably makes me like, man, I wish I was playing Pebble,
but it's something about Rive just makes me want to play golf.
Like because the actual course in the land,
they're not good.
It's not that interesting.
There's no ocean view.
There's no, it's like there's no fluff.
It's just like, wow, the golf course, the actual hole,
this hole looks awesome.
And it's like hole after hole after hole
and shout out to CBS for the drone shots.
That's helping me probably feel that way.
I just feel like I wanna go play the game of golf
when I watch it.
I think a lot of that is just the ball,
what the ball does when it's on the ground every year
makes it so much more engaging.
You can't take your eyes off of the screen
like the camsmith shot into 17.
It's not like he almost flew it in the hole on 17. He landed it in
the perfect spot at Chaston. You're watching it the whole time. Like you're on the
edge of your seat, you know, a lot more watching the ball on the ground than you are in the
air, which we've said a billion times, but it is a great example.
And there's that the they do a good job with the cross bunker. Like the holes are
sh, they're almost framed really well 18s a great example
And I think the camera works great there where it kind of weaves around and then there's this big, you know
It's so much better now than it was even three years ago. It just fits my eye really well
And I think it you know you guys feel the same way. I just really really like it
So one of the give rib and CBS a shout out who missed thick rough this week
So I wanted to give Riv and CBS a shout out. Who missed ThickRuff this week?
Does it?
I keep hearing these clamors for more rough on PJ Torgulf courses and I'm waiting for
the first fun one with ThickRuff.
So Mike Wann is the new USGACO.
It's been a little, it doesn't feel like that was this week.
Least shocking news, but maybe a little shocking after I interview with him, he didn't sound
like he was.
Oh, he totally did.
He was playing POSK him. He didn't sound like he was oh he totally did. He was playing posse Sure, he fooled me
This was a TC special
Most credit TC. Yeah, most credit TC. What did they consult you? There's a what he said?
I just said like god like this is a fucking no brainer. Yeah
According to Tron Carter a Twitter. It made too much sense
Which yeah, I do wonder how it's all gonna play out,
but obviously we've all been quite complimentary
of what Juan has done at the LPGA tour
and I think the USGA probably could use some rebranding
and leadership that is along these lines
and I think it could be great for him.
I don't know what it means for distant stuff.
I don't know what his...
It's a former OEM guy, right?
Former OEM guy, I don't know.
He even says himself he's not a big golf guy.
Does he know the rules?
What does that mean for the structure
of what his job looks like?
I don't know, it's to be determined.
I do think it's amazing how universal this decision seems.
And I'm also in that camp,
but it also makes me suspicious as to why everyone is like,
what an amazing move.
It almost never seems like that works out great.
It kind of feels like, you know,
someone who's willing to listen, right?
Like someone who's willing to be the sum of all the best parts
and figure out, all right, hey, here's what we have going on.
Here's what the USGH strengths are.
He said it in his opening remarks.
He said, hey, we want to have the best championships.
Right?
How do you make the US open, the US women's open, USM?
How do you make those the best championships, right?
And then build the entire organization around those things.
I do have concerns about the OEM,
Stahlite, and he's a former tailor-made exec.
He's, you know,
We're from Wilson, I think, for a while.
Wilson, and then Procter and Gamble, you know.
He used to sell, you know,
to Shwacher, to charge it in toothpaste, you know.
Not a proctoid though.
Yeah, allegedly.
Much more engaging.
It seems like.
So hopefully we'll have him back on in his new ride.
I would say I would give the USGA as a body credit
for he seems like somebody that will challenge
the status quo.
Yeah, and so it's nice.
He's not a blue blood.
Yeah, and again, I don't want to say no offense,
but no offense to anybody like rising through the ranks there,
but it's nice to get a fresh perspective at the top.
And like, that's an organization that's been around
a very long time and could use probably a fresh perspective
and hasn't been, you know, kind of indoctrinated maybe.
Or like, I wonder how much of the,
I think you can kind of almost feel like a
tidal shift a little bit of in the USGA
between both what you're saying,
moved Pinehurst just like a very,
whenever I would think of the USGA
when I was a lot younger, it's always like,
oh yes, we hang out at,
I picture him sitting in the grill room at Garden City
or something like that.
And it's like, now it's like you're going to Pinehurst,
which is a very public,
like such a forward facing public place.
It's very like.
Just outside New York, somewhere just outside.
Yeah.
Just outside Manhattan.
I don't know.
Exactly where.
It's far hills.
It's not short hills.
It's far hills.
It's far hills.
We don't know where that is, but it's,
you know what I mean though?
It's a, it's a,
it's also a very private organization., it's, it's, it's, uh, yeah, they've always seemed like a very private organization and it seems like they're at
least attempting to try to be a little bit more like, you know,
aren't wide open.
I think that's the thing that's, that's kind of killed me is like they've,
they've, they've, they've acknowledged, I think of the last few years that
they've needed to brand things of, you know, a bit better and have a better,
uh, communication. Yeah, I just, just a, a better storefront have a better communication.
Yeah, just a better storefront to the golf world.
But at the end of the day,
the actions may not have matched that.
And then it feels two or three X,
like more disingenuous,
when the actions don't match the storefront.
Where now it's like,
hey, let's try to get something
to where both of those things match up.
And I think that's important.
I think it's a good thing for women.
It can only be a good thing for women's golf,
with his relationship with the women's game.
And speaking of which, the LPGA television schedule
was announced, NBC is producing more than 500
tournament hours of women's golf coverage in 2021.
Most hours and events ever dedicated to the women's game,
you're going to see LPJ on CBS a couple of times this summer.
The marathon LPJ and the Dow Great Lakes, which is interesting.
Network TV, that was his whole thing, the whole pot.
The network TV didn't increase, it went from, as far as my count,
it was only nine events on network TV this year.
On NBC at least.
Well, but...
Are we counting big flasks event as network
TV or now that counted as network TV for sure. That was that was women's golf on network TV.
So and also fill potentially getting more involved in broadcast this year. I saw this is from
front office sports that Steve Lloyd, whose fills agents says it wouldn't surprise me if in the next 12 to 24 months, you might see more of Phil on the air.
So.
I'm, I'm, I'm struggling there.
I can only imagine that when Phil was finished
and out on 18th pebble with his glove on,
he's like,
gotta keep one of the fucking booths, man, his socks.
Speaking of putting the glove on in case we forget
to get to him,
shout out to Tyler McCumber.
Oh, got awesome first couple of days.
Yeah.
Yeah, the, the Phil thing in the booth was,
was it massively invigorating when we saw him
at the PGA last year?
Of course, it was roasting Fowdo.
Awesome, it was really, really great.
Is there such a thing as, you know, too much of a good thing?
Definitely.
So do I want to see him every week?
I'd be hesitant to make that proclamation.
How many times out of a hundred would you want Fowl-O overfill?
100.
But Fowl-O overfill.
Fowl overfill.
No, you're zero.
Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, I have to think of the way around.
Yeah, no, zero.
Okay, so you're right.
There isn't too much of a good thing.
I think there's some danger there, though.
I think there's some danger there, though.
I would, the devil that I know versus the devil that I don't know.
I think feel like I'm a total land of confusion.
I think Phil could do some really, really bad things.
The broadcast.
So I may have to kind of say, like, like, like, shake it up, man, you know, like,
having, having, having, he's on offense the whole time at pleapo playing defense.
Like that'd be, they were, they were talking about, they were pumping the shit out of
the fact that he's playing the colo guard next week
on the champion store.
Which, if I look at, since Johnny Miller's retired,
there's not like a lead co-heat,
like fully committed voice on the telecast right now.
Like both Fowdo and Azinger don't,
you know, they kind of speak in a little bit of platitudes.
They fall back on the same things.
Fowdo just openly just does just word vomit.
He just throws out whatever he's thinking.
It doesn't even have to go through any real actual process.
He's like, I forget what he did something today
where he just openly asked a question to himself.
Like, oh, is he aiming this left?
And I'm just like, that's not an analysis.
So yeah, I think Phil could completely transform
golf on television.
So I would not be afraid of, he would give us so much content.
Maybe that's the lens I view it through, but he would be relentless in that regard.
I just don't know about that.
Yeah, I don't think they can pay him enough.
I just don't know how that, that's where I struggle.
He wants to be Roma.
Yeah, he thinks he's like, you know, yeah, like $15, $18 million a year, you mean, probably the
same, you know, Rommel has what, $16, $18 games a year. And, you know, Phil's saying, hey,
give me $16, $18 games a year or tournaments a year. And they're like, no, like, you have,
like, the NFL contract is so different from the PGA tour contract
and what we're making from this, that's insane.
Yeah.
We're gonna lose a lot of hard cameras
if we get fill in the booth,
but maybe we don't need them as many.
Well, that's not the tariff sign.
That's not a nothing comment,
because there's so much of,
why can't you do this on the broadcast?
Why can't you do this?
Why can't you do this?
It's like, there's so stretch then on the right steel
and what they have to pay the tour,
that it's, yeah, I don't
get how that works.
That's not an insignificant amount of money.
Yeah.
Super, super significant.
I mean, who knows if NASA's going to be at CBS, past, I mean, the threat is ESPN and
a lot of it.
I think that's total bullshit.
Who knows?
Feels like kind of a smoke screen.
Could be.
A couple things.
All right, I want to do a quick segment here on our, this is our February version of our Cali,
what's in the bag series?
Are you up?
I'm up.
Hell yeah.
I wanna talk.
I wanna talk to you.
Okay.
Because I'm the master fitter guy.
Okay.
And you never listen to what I want to say.
Should you give the people some context
and gasp reel this week before you talk about,
you know, I feel like that would set you up
as a real authoritative source for this.
Yeah, sure. So I have struggled in golf
for the last six to eight months.
Let's give over that one.
Well, I struggled a lot and I struggled
particularly off the tee.
I had a left miss going very,
like a horrific left miss.
Describe it was at a chloroform.
150 yards off the tee into the trees.
Was it a spin-in form? No. Or it was a straight left ball. Straight left miss. Describe it was at a core. 150 yards off the tee into the trees. Was it was
it was it was it was it a total club. No, it was a straight left. Straight left ball.
Like toad. Like no understanding of how it is going that far left.
Shadda Sam Burns, who's who's had one of those today that bounced back in bounce.
I have played a tournament this year where I have aimed out of bounds right just to make
sure it stays in balance. It's all to be clear. You are you are a right
hinder golfer. I'm a right hand golferfer. I later, kind of, find out. I think some injury had something to do with it.
I was really dragging the club inside, doing all these things, blah, blah, blah.
And it was contributing to the club getting horribly across the line and then going way left.
And I didn't really know that the Maverick regular Cali driver has a draw bias in it.
And I accidentally grabbed my epic flash one day
and had to use it for the round.
And looked down at it and I was like,
oh my God, this club face like makes so much sense to me.
And it was, it mitigated the left miss
because it just didn't have that draw bias.
Anyways, fast forward another month.
I've worked a ton on my takeaway,
worked a ton on my swing,
and I've kind of worked into now hitting a cut.
But with that epic flash, I was block cutting.
Everything was missing right, but I was okay with that.
I'm kind of building towards getting rid of the left miss.
And I'm kind of building building, but not really getting there.
And then it just like clicked in my mind.
I was like, oh, let's go back to the Maverick.
This is exactly what the draw bias is, therefore, to help limit this fade.
All that process just got me to thinking of how we talk so much about equipment,
we talk so much about clubs, and we don't talk a lot about getting fit, and how important it is
to try and get the clubs to match up on your own.
An experiment took me a long, long time to do.
I should have worked closer with our certified master fitter sitting to my left, that's what I'm getting at.
And the recognition of the technology,
and like some of the shots I hit this past week
and where it is just fading five yards
instead of going into the right trees,
allowed me to compete.
And I was just wanting to get that off my chest
of the importance of getting fit into the right equipment
when you're changing equipment
as to how important that is.
So what's your plan moving forward?
We're closer with TC.
And just now understanding that when I switch into the Epic Speed,
which is about that time to do that,
in understanding what the bias is in the club,
what the club is trying to promote,
what the settings are doing on the club to open
or close the club face,
and how that's relating to my misses, and how if I I take two different clubs and I'm getting two different results,
it doesn't mean I need to make a swing change with it.
It means I probably need to make some kind of equipment adjustment with it.
Yeah, I'm a big, big proponent of get the right club in the first place and then make
small tweaks instead of, hey, you know, this club, like get the 10.5
and then tune it down to nine and then put the draw
and they're like, no, like I still think
you need to get the right club.
And then there's so many other tools at your disposal
to fine tune it the way you want it to be, right?
And a big thing being changing one variable at a time.
Yes.
Don't change the loft and the end, the face squareness
and the draw, the club, whatever,
like from a sub-zero to a regular all at once
because you don't know really how that's gonna affect you.
But I've always been kind of,
I just had the thought that like,
you know, I could change from one year's Cowboy equipment
to the next year and it should be pretty normal.
And any issues I was having were my swing,
but in reality,
there's a lot of variables going on.
And it's not to be quite clear.
It's not the equipment's fault.
It's just a getting it actually in the right setting.
And you can use online tools,
Cowboys got online tools to be able to do all that stuff,
to get properly fit.
But I've just seen hand in hand the difference
in just popping one club head off
and putting on another one in terms of
how my two golf swings have been.
Watching those two different ball flights has kind of blown my mind this past.
I had a similar feeling switching from the rogue driver.
I hit the rogue really well.
So you had to set on the wrong setting for a year.
I did.
But my point being, I think some of it also mentally wrapping your head around.
Like what you're saying about what the club is trying to promote.
And like almost when you start to, you said the aha moment, when you start
to understand like, oh, you know, I don't, it almost puts you at ease where you're, you
stop thinking about like, I have to do, like, I have to work so hard to do, you know, whatever
it is you're trying to prevent. When you're like, actually, you know, the club will, like,
maybe this club is just set wrong.
You just gotta wrap your head around what the,
I think you want the club to be guarding
against the lowest common denominator.
You want it to be guarding against your baseline miss.
Just making that miss a little bit less bad.
Exactly.
I can play from barely in the right fairway,
or barely in the right rough.
When it's going way right, that's not a good thing
unless it goes way right, which can be a good thing.
But I am now really starting to understand
how to start it on one spot and get it to go that direction
and not feel like I'm guiding it,
but feeling like I'm just sending it on that line.
I don't know if that makes sense.
So I think you're a prime candidate for just the regular
epic speed and then the thing I'd like to work with you on
is shaft.
Yes.
Because I think you've always just played a stock shaft
or standard shaft and I think there's different flux points
and different things going on.
100%.
I think you could gain from a lot more stability
in the bottom of the shop.
TC and I had a good session a couple of weeks ago,
up at Coastal.
Coastal Indoor.
Join us.
I'd love to.
We'd welcome you.
It's time.
I needed to get through this past weekend,
and now I'm ready to.
Yeah, variables, right?
I'm right.
Yeah.
You know, it's nice to know what the club's promoting.
I'll tell you what, though, some of the stuff
that comes off this track meant, the data,
it can overwhelm you.
And then it also makes, sometimes when I see my club path
and how over the top, it just makes me mad.
I'm like, man, I wish my-
You get so triggered.
I just hate my club path.
You get so angry at data.
Because I put so much spin on the ball.
And I'm like, I don't want to see that, man.
Because you just want the screen to say like all zeros.
You want to change your whole entire goal.
Oh, I just don't want it.
So that you see all perfect numbers.
I don't like coming over the top.
I was like, he's competing against the track.
It's like, he's like, he's like, he's competing against the track.
I was honest to God.
Me and Randy, it was maybe the most fun I had in 2020
was me and Randy sitting.
Fuck you, dude. And watching Neil hippos on the track, man, it was maybe the most fun I had in 2020 was me and Randy sitting. Fuck you, dudes.
And watching Neil hippos on the track band, it just, just lobbing grenades.
It's like, oh god.
You got to dig so much.
You got to dig so much.
Spin on that.
Oh god, Neil, what harder?
On that point, first.
On that first smash factor, you almost missed it.
On that front, I'm excited.
Neal's got the new Apex pros coming in.
I do, and I'm excited about those.
And I'm graduating to the ball striker, Iron.
Yeah, I think, I think, like, I'm going to be able to get a lot of attention. I'm going to be able to get a lot of attention. I'm going to be able to get a lot of attention.
I'm going to be able to get a lot of attention.
I'm going to be able to get a lot of attention.
I'm going to be able to get a lot of attention.
I'm going to be able to get a lot of attention.
I'm going to be able to get a lot of attention.
I'm going to be able to get a lot of attention.
I'm going to be able to get a lot of attention.
I'm going to be able to get a lot of attention.
I'm going to be able to get a lot of attention.
I'm going to be able to get a lot of attention. I'm going to be able to get a lot of attention. I'm going to be able to. Yeah, it is. I'm governing myself.
That's very cool. I'm growing up. I'm growing up. Provided with the personal
eye. That's very mature. I'm excited for it. I think you guys are also going to like what's next
because I'm about to start some speed training. Oh my god. Dispersion. Can you give us a 208 call? Can you give us a good,
I need to hit 171 first before I get to 208, I think.
But just needed to get through this past week
and we're on our way from that.
Can we just have a couple more just, you know,
a sides from Riv?
Sure thing.
So going back to Haaland, Haaland had no idea.
He was in the top five.
Matt Fitzpatrick, I'm never, I'm always totally taken aback when I see him putting with the
flag stick in from close range.
I'm so I feel like I watched Matt Fitzpatrick miss nine straights.
Not his day to day.
Six footers.
I felt, he shot 71 today.
I know, but every time this show didn't miss a six footer, especially early on, it was tough.
He did his Saturday thing, firm conditions every time.
It's firm on Saturday and when he's out in front of the leaders,
he goes out and gets it,
shot 69 on Saturday.
I said this to the,
shout out to the light.
It's getting strong today, though.
I feel like you want to,
like you want to pick Matt Fitzpatrick when,
like, oh, this is going to be a hard setup this week.
But it's almost like when the course,
the courses, how am I, what am I trying to say here?
The courses that shouldn't be that hard of a setup,
but then they end up being hard, that's when he plays well.
When he gets accidentally hard.
When he gets accidentally hard.
Accidentally hard is when he then steps up.
It's not like when you think it's like,
oh, this course is always so hard.
I think it's kind of mental, right?
Like when the rest of the field is defeated, he's like, when he goes down, when he gets down, when he's going, it's tough. It's Patrick so hard. I think it's kind of mental, right? Like when the rest of the field is defeated,
he's like,
here's my window right here.
Going its tough, it's Patrick Shazap.
Mollinari T8, he is really, really,
really starting to find some form.
Which is good to see.
Yeah, the tough scene there for a little while.
Which honestly, he was one of those guys that,
like if he were just roared in the sunset,
wouldn't notice.
Wouldn't have been, no.
I mean, he made all his money,
move to call for, yeah. I would've been like, yeah, sick man, like good for be. I mean, he made all his money, moved to Cal State.
I would've been like, yeah, sick man, like good for you.
That was, that was fun to watch in 2018.
He moved to San Francisco.
We haven't, we haven't talked about speed yet either.
Oh, it's right.
Did Mollinari move to San Francisco or is he a member at RIV?
No, is it both.
No, I think he's a San Francisco.
I think he's an out, they said in the broadcast.
I thought San Francisco.
But they said in the broadcast, though.
But today they said he's an L.A.
Oh, I thought.
He's a member at RIV, they said. Oh, I thought for sure he moved to San Francisco. I did said it was the broadcast that we go, but today they said he's in LA. Yeah, it's a member of it, they said.
Oh, I thought for sure he moved to San Francisco.
I did too.
I was in the impression as well.
I thought he was playing out at Cal State.
We'll follow up on this next week.
More of the story of the develops.
Literally who could say.
We didn't talk about that.
That was massively disappointing, especially in the
the Candidities on Saturday.
I kind of was hoping that that would be a like as everyone's
falling apart,
speaks ball-strike in the death, way too many typos.
It's a pretty, yeah, exactly.
But it's a process.
T-15, another good week.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, it is kind of insane.
Well, Royal Rankings going up.
That's right.
He actually got off the tee decently well this week
as his iron plate kind of let him down a little bit.
Which is the most inspiring thing that could possibly have happened.
Yeah, he's still making stuff happen.
His floor has definitely raised a lot, but yeah, that's exciting.
Signed development.
Will's out to our sneaky T15 as well.
Yeah, played, played, played 67 today, played really well.
Can't lay a little bit of a disappointing weekend.
Forgotten, man.
Plus one this weekend, Saturday, Sunday.
I do wanna say some things about the PGA tour live pairing
today, which was like Nick Taylor, Ricky, and...
Tyler Duncan.
Tyler Duncan.
That was only an issue for like two minutes.
And then they eventually switched over to the lake.
It's like, what the fuck, man?
I don't know, I just don't get it.
You were tricked.
DC came in with this mellow mushroom.
You just triggered about that.
Solid, do you wanna apologize on my house?
Whatever you're gonna say, no.
Your boy, Lonto.
I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, whatever you want.
I miss this.
No.
This was such a, this was such a nothing.
Just anything that gets caught on,
no one of these guys don't want to wear microphones.
No, no.
Anything that gets caught.
Lonto was like, wait, the guy in the locker room told me,
I didn't have to walk back up that hill.
I have to walk back up this hill.
This is ridiculous.
This is ridiculous.
This is a light exaggeration of the tone from T.C.
And then Willie Wilcox was like, no, he, he,
that's his boy.
Exactly.
He was taking the piss. Now, just, he was taking the piss.
Now, he wasn't taking the piss out of anybody.
Lonto and I ride with Willie Wilcox, Willie the Wave God,
any day, overtese.
Lonto and Fiery tied.
Not one person have I heard mentioned this except for TC.
So I know it's a complete non-story.
All right, related to this.
Who do you guys think hit, hit was hit
in the best trick shots on the range there during,
during the, yeah, so we had some, you know, reports on the ground that Ricky was just just lighting it up.
Putting on a show out there laser show and then the cameras came out.
I'm gonna turn it on with commercial.
I can't believe this.
I think Sallie said this a number of times.
But why is there not a skills competition of PJ Tore?
The shot that Max hit from the tree even seeing the guys dick around on the range,
it's like, man, just,
just do that for another layup.
Yeah, God, that would be so easy, right?
Just who can hit the biggest?
I don't know, whatever.
I'm not gonna try to come up with the ideas off the top of my head,
but if you put some thoughts to it,
I feel like that would be very fun to watch.
Guys, highest score today?
Yes.
78.
Lower.
75. 75. Scott Pierce. Yes 78 lower 75 75
Scott Pierce you shot 75 on the weekend. You hate to see that hate that for
Piers high score yesterday
Sun King 83 can we turn our eyes to concession please I'm excited a lonely nation turns the size of the
Consulate yeah, so you were there this week we went there a week and a half ago now, Ben and I went and shot a crash course video,
which hopefully is coming out this week.
UPS lost a hard drive.
We're, we'll see.
It's gonna be a scramble to get it together.
But I believe-
Hold on, real quick.
Do we need to start using FedEx?
Well, if we wanna get in the weeds,
so I assume we do.
I went to the UPS store,
which I can't speak highly enough
about the Atlantic Beach UPS store. We need to start to A.J. Complete assume we do. I wonder the UPS store, which I can't speak highly enough about the Atlantic Beach UPS
store.
AJ, complete, just absolute stud.
Hamils has been.
Professional.
They outsourced it to USPS, so that's where our issue lies.
So more on this story as a developer.
Anyways, the golf course, I'm just saying we might not have a video on Wednesday.
We're trying, but we might not.
It's only what happened.
They lost, you ship the drive and then they lost it?
No, I ship the drive.
Oh, you ship that same drive from the construction drive?
Well, no, no, it's different.
We have redundancies.
Oh, I thought that it would be different.
It's got to be different.
It's different drives here.
No, no, no, no.
So the golf course, I believe I've been previously
stated on this podcast that the pros are gonna hate it
and that I hated it.
I have to revise my take on it.
I'm starting to think we should play courses more than what.
Correct.
I went out and played six holes
and I didn't know what was coming.
It's fucking stupid.
I got punched in the face so hard.
Now I was mentally prepared knowing
it's the hardest course in Florida
and what it, you know, I knew what I was getting into
was what I'm saying.
And I found it very interesting and much more fair.
And did you have the big left miss in play?
I had all the misses in play.
And we went out there and played it
as far back as we were allowed and counted every shot,
and I won't spoil what happens in there,
but that doesn't go great.
But I found it to be one of the most interesting courses
ever for like, oh, this is the perfect place for,
do you wanna see how good these guys are?
And like, how much like a player like me
will get ejected out here
and how these guys will have no problem?
This is the course.
Not to be confused with, this is a good golf course.
No, you know, it's not, it's just crazy greens.
It's sweetens cove, it's been called it,
sweetens cove on, on Bryson, basically, is what it was.
That's what the Greens are like.
It's big boy length with insane Greens
that are sillier than Sweden's and not nearly as fun,
and like more penal and-
It sounds like Jack on acid.
It some dudes are gonna eject,
it's Jack on HGH.
Some dudes are gonna shoot a million this week.
It's gonna be like the, like some of the dudes traveling
with the OWGR manipulating the company. Yes, when there's Brown on the dude's travel in. Travel in. Yeah.
The OWGR manipulate the company.
Yes.
When there's Brown in the scorecard,
what can Brown do for you?
The scorecard's here to get a terminal that this time of year.
It is gonna get, it's gonna be some separation in this field.
I still think the lead, the winner is gonna shoot
a plenty low number, but the difference,
I hope it shows off on TV as to how severe some of these misses are gonna be.
If the wind blows, anything could happen.
Is it severe like missing it off the tee
or is it just iron play from the fairway?
The fairways are wide, so guys are gonna be in the fairways,
but like the slope behind 13 green,
I've never seen anything like this,
like par five green, it sits so perched up high.
And if you go long left, you have to chip it
well above your head to a tabletop.
And like you are probably going off the front
of the green on the other side.
Like there's nowhere to hide.
You're chipping off a down slope too.
And it's this, like this, this pin,
I know the tour doesn't get crazy
with where they put the pins,
which will probably keep it from being absurd.
They're gonna listen to this and not put a pin
on that front half of the green.
Probably not, but like there are some spots that are so insanely penal and the birdies
are still gonna be out there, but I think you're gonna see some clips of like, they're
gonna do a highlight package of like look at this fall rolling off and this doing all
this.
Love the hell, yeah.
So it's gonna be an interesting goal.
It's a good tournament golf course.
It's a Fienu DJ golf course.
Yeah.
And it's not concession, it's the concession.
The concession.
Oh, this is my concession.
Workday championship at the concession.
You should see Jack, you know,
presented by the real high estate.
Maybe we should call it the concession,
not the concession.
I think it's, I think it's the concession golf course.
It's dropped to the, it's cleaner. Cleaner. But it is, I'm saying jack. The show's the concession golf course. It's dropped it though. It's cleaner.
It is. I'm saying that with WGC Sean Parker with the Ohio State. There's a tie in there.
Yeah, they should play gimme's this week. Everything's good inside 18 feet. God, I love that. 18 inches.
Feast party. If you're too complaining, you might be able to win a two feet. Anything else
for when this week. I'm really will. I think he's going to win at 8 feet. Anything else for me to win this week?
He really will.
I think he's going to.
It's just crazy to me that Tyler McCumber shoots 67, 68.
He is in the front of our minds for the first 65 hours of the tournament.
And then shoots 77, 74 on the weekend and finishes T-52,
which is one shot, which is one spot clear
of dead last of the guys that made the cut.
Like that's broke off.
This is hard.
That's fast.
Yeah, got it.
It's hard.
It's all any comment on Morikawa's new putting stroke.
I haven't had a chance to check it out and get to watch
him as golf this week.
Grinding to make the cut, which is more than we can say.
We can't get out here without, I know we're going long.
Can't, what a fucking shame that the rib, Bryson and JT
did not make the cut this week.
That's a bummer on a golf course like that that set up for a
major that is just like that. That's a bummer. On a golf course like that, that set up for a major that is just like, that sucks.
The rib breaking his, his big cut streak going to, didn't he?
Three letters.
20 events, P, G, L.
They don't have a cut for these guys.
Well, that's true.
And I mean, they deserved to miss a cut, like they sucked.
Well, I'm bummed that they sucked.
Not that they were like, we're kept out of the weekend.
It's just, it was the bummer from those guys.
I think we're, those three specifically.
I think we're giving JT too much credit here too.
JT finished like fourth from DFL.
It was not good.
It was great for my brewery over JT beverage.
So we should have got him.
I'm pretty what.
But you know what the most crazy part about that was?
Charles Hall of Third plus nine.
Hate that.
I feel like he's.
He's had a tough West Coast swing this year.
He has not played well.
Not good, right?
Yeah, that's alarming.
As soon as I picked him,
he started falling apart.
And so I'm so excited.
How many wins do Charles Hall of Third have?
Two, three, three.
He's not eligible for the champion's tour guys.
Oh, no.
He can buy the champion's tour.
Yeah, he's got like 25 career money exemptions.
So I think I'm, I am positive they want us to sort of,
his three wins.
Three wins.
He's got to get the four.
He's got to get the four.
Not going to.
I would like to give a shout out to the fine folks
that run the gas barilla for invite to the tournament to play this past week. Absolutely world
class mid-AM event from some of the best players all over the country and it's
what it's the super bowl for me every so far every year. It's the second year I've
played in it. It is so crazy fun to compete on a great golf course, Palma
Sia and there was so many people out there watching the finale like all the
people that come out to support that, like all the people that come out to support
that tournament and all the players that come in for it.
It was mind-blowing.
We got a lot of content to come from it.
Ben, our guy was there and captured it all.
And it was, I don't even have the words of scribe yet.
It was insane, insane week.
Well, congratulations on a great first round.
Making me cut.
It was awesome to follow this weekend.
Thank you.
I'm overall been giving me a B-plus for my performance,
and I'll take that.
I think it was a lot to build on.
Other content stuff, Randy and I going down
to the Gainbridge LPGA this week.
I won't say specifically what we're doing,
but I will say it's the most excited I've been
for a video project.
I think a new video project in quite some time.
I'm just absolutely buzzing about it.
Me and TC are recording a podcast tomorrow morning.
I'm absolutely buzzing about.
Absolutely loving life.
Big trap draws coming up.
I mean, it's just, it's just, it's just,
It's a choke points folks.
I don't want to be in the, you know,
the nesting doll of promotion here,
but I feel like we don't talk about our own stuff enough.
We got a lot of good shit coming up here.
And an hour 55 in, I think, that's not quite as much to ask.
I don't know.
She's been having cuts we had today.
Newsletter out on Thursday.
Got some merch coming out and merch this week but also just March is going to be a big
month in the shop.
We got a phone call.
Oh my goodness.
The champ is here.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, champ. Tell me about that put on 17.
Oh no, no, no.
That's all I got.
That's all the action I do.
Oh my god.
Congratulations.
Max, how bad was it on 10?
One to 10.
You're on the podcast, by the way.
Just don't say anything though.
It was like a seven or eight.
You thought it was like 11.
Did you have more room? I don't know if it was like an 11. Did you have more room?
Like I know I don't know if you saw the replay,
but did you have more room than it looked like on TV or what?
Um, no.
Have you ever practiced that shot before?
Yeah, unfortunately I hit it in place like that far too often.
Vista Valencia, right?
Little Vista, who's just like number four, Tika,
just like a hooded
gap wedge and just pray a little bit, but it worked out. What are you doing right now?
What are you feeling? Have you had any celebration libations yet?
At one by the light, Joe and I have been scrambling. We just got to play at home. So now we're
waiting at an Uber lot where we dropped out his rental car to then take it over to the other airport to get picked up to go home.
The life of a champion.
The other airport, like which two airports are you going to LAX and Burbank probably?
Yeah, well I'm actually at Burbank going to Van Ayes.
Oh, are you flying private home big dog?
No comment.
Hell yes.
What was your true reaction after 18 going into the playoff? Because you looked unfazed by everything that happened.
I kind of laughed. I did literally everything so well today.
And then I just was really nervous on that part.
And I just made our nervous ass throw.
So, you know, I don't know.
It did happen.
It was embarrassing to do it in front of Tiger.
But I just had to move on.
I mean, I would have taken a chance that a playoff start today.
So I just tried to be positive.
I don't know.
It was not my finest moment, but I feel like, you know,
I hit a great seven iron on 14 and a playoff to make up for it.
So, I don't know.
I think I still got, I still got the clutch, you know, I, I just you know, it took a it took a yes to real quick.
The shot in 18 was absurd, right? Yeah, Joe called. I wanted to get away. He's like,
dude, this thing went to going one thirty one. You're just, uh, you could do it. And I was like,
wow, okay. And then we hit it to three feet. And I'm like, oh, sweet. That's going to be a straight
three footer. And it was like right edge. I'm like, I don't know about this one.
Is it different? Not not having to worry about spinning
something like that off the front when it's so firm like that
and you can just go after a wedge?
Yeah, it's all, you guys know,
but when it's firm back pins are like the best case scenario.
Front pins are tough.
So we, of course, we did have a full number
to just hit some as high as we could.
And it helps when the greens are like that
because you know if you can just cover your front number, it's going to like bounce back,
so you don't need to do a ton of work. Was that the best golf you've ever played?
Stop there. I shot 63 with Sully Tron and he let thing wonder. Marshall and except the course
record. This was pretty good. I mean, so I think I had point that it's called about a bug.
You're some point for all. So it was some good golf. We got it. We had a good
game plan and I, uh, I don't know, I executed. Dude, I thought you were trying to land it
in the, in the hole on 14 the first time around. Yeah, that was probably that was a little
small. That's what on 10, give me some gratitude dots before that chip up on the green.
What were we thinking about before that one?
I don't know.
I was thankful that I had a shot
because if I took that club back
and I couldn't even hit it, then I was dead.
But unfortunately, I was grateful to have a little.
And I used you and my grateful speech to myself today
or walking down to the range, Neil.
I said, oh, I'm saying I'm also thankful
to Neil and Clark and I'm watching a little golf.
Watch the whole tournament.
Got my fiance on the side.
Watch the whole tournament.
The whole tournament.
She was calling him Fony T-Now.
Because of you, she was rude and gets toony, man.
What a...
They didn't show the trophy.
By the way, if you have to go at any moment,
just hang up.
No, please don't. I'm going 30 seconds.
Okay, anything, any exchange with you in the cat?
Oh, yeah, it was awesome.
And I got like a little like five, ten minutes at the end of the, and all the media stuff
is sweet.
Wow.
You hit a nice little hooky, flippy, whatever.
Does he call you Maxi?
No, he didn't.
I don't think I'm that, I'm not there yet.
But I'm working on it. Maybe you can get that practice round with them now. I know I am gonna have to
Oh yeah, by the way you're going back to Augusta. I forgot about that. And you're on tour for three more years.
You get three years? Yeah. Hell yeah brother. Elevated status baby. I'm so vested right now.
All right enjoy. Get out of here, buddy.
Congratulations.
You saved me.
Cheers.
Be the right club.
Be the right club today.
Yes.
That is better than most.
How about him?
That is better than most.
Better than most. Better than most.