No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 405: WGC-Workday Recap

Episode Date: March 1, 2021

Morikawa flexes on the field, The Concession shows out, Koepka makes a run, and everything else from an eventful week. We reflect on Tiger's accident, the future of WGC's, Rory, Scheffler, Hovland, Nelly Korda's win at the Gainbridge, some Ryder Cup chat, and a lot more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up podcast. It is official. It is member guest week at the concession. The big week is finally here.

We've gotten through the little hit and giggle at the WGC Workday Championship at the concession brought to you by... Grubo Salinas. That's T.C. Helping out Mexico's image before the world. Sustainable business, inclusive business model. Yeah, inclusive shared prosperity. That's right, that's right.

Neal is here. Hello, Sally. DJ and Randy are not here. They are still down at the LPGA event that they were at this past week. A lot of content to come from that. We'll talk a little bit about LPGA. We'll talk a little bit about LPGA. We'll talk a little bit about a lot of it. I have a feeling about the WGC at concession.

We'll talk a little Puerto Rico. Speaking of Puerto Rico, Brandon Grace got his second PGA Tour win sporting a new Epic Speed Driver at 13 to 14 fairways on Sunday. Full set of jaws, M-D-5 wedges, one of which he used to hold off for EGLE to take the lead on the 17th hole. on Sunday full set of jaws, M.D. 5 wedges, one of which he used to hold off for Eagle to

take the lead on the 17th hole. Also rolling a brand new Odyssey two ball 10 putters, same putters John Rom, most played Odyssey model on tour since it launched a few weeks ago. That thing is moving very quickly. He flashed on 817 and 18 from the bunker. TC and I watched the end. It was a nails down the stretch. It's tough seeing Grayson very fall part there at the end, but he hates seeing that, seeing that snap. Well, it was, I mean, hats off to Grace. You just an old dog showing the young box. What's up? You know, he feels like a guy. You're like, Oh, man, he's not a WGC. Huh? He's, he's back, baby. I get uncomfortable watching him put and I actually felt comfortable over that final part. I was like, you know, he's going to make this. He's going to, well, it's smart of him to win Puerto Rico now

because the curse has been lifted by Victor Hoplin, who we're gonna touch on as well. He's the first one to win another event after winning Puerto Rico. Oh, so it's not winning before. It's after. Okay, it's only after. Yeah.

I thought it was just guys that hit only one there and that's it. Well, I think it's, yeah, once you win there, you've never won a subsequent event, but Hoplin broke the curse. Okay, so I think we should probably start today's yeah, once you win there, you've never want to subscribe then but hovelin broke the curse. Okay. So I Think we should probably start today's episode tonight's episode on the not so cheery note Tiger this of course happened five days ago feels like a month ago now, but

This is not news to anyone Tiger Woods was in a All I would say to say life threatening car accident on Tuesday. Yeah severe damage to his legs. I have a lot of problem. I have trouble kind of talking about this because almost everything I want to say would probably be speculation and I don't want to speculate and I hate the tweets that start with,

I don't want to speculate but blah, blah, blah. What do you guys have to say about what has happened this week with Tiger that hasn't been said or even if it hasn't, if it already has? What would, I don't have a lot to say. I'm just glad he's alive. Yeah, straight up. As a human.

Yeah, I mean, you know, like who gives a shit about the golf and all that? If, you know, any golf from him even pre-accident felt like a bonus. So, you know, the fact that he's able to just be there for his kids and stuff, like that's, you know, that's what matters Yeah, I think Tuesday It's one one of those few moments where I just kind of had like couldn't work anymore

Yeah, I was just like oh man. It just kind of hijacked My day even though it's like what's well, you know, it's not Nothing I can do about it or there's and there's also no like what do you just continue to scroll for no one has any information Right like what are you looking for Neil like what are you doing? to scroll for? No one has any information, right? Like what are you looking for, Neil? Like what are you doing? So it's just- You're looking for the reassurance that like, you always not going to die.

Yeah, once you have that and once you know he's not paralyzed or he's not going to get one of his legs amputated, then at that point you're kind of like, all right. Which we still don't technically know, I think. I mean, to this point, there's not been an amputation, but like it sounds like it was or is a serious threat of that. And I would, at some point they're going to reassure us that that's not the case, but going back in for another procedure later this, later this week, you know, there was some speculation online that that was to clean out infection.

It's really bad. It reminds me, I watched an E60 on Alex Smith. It reminds me a lot of like his injury on the football field and then like the all the work and like all the infection stuff he went through, you know, you just hope that that doesn't happen with Tiger, but at least there's a, an example of somebody that has, you know, had their leg reconstructed, had the infection stuff and come back to perform at a high level.

Yeah. I'm playing tackled. Yeah, exactly. Like, you hold up to it, right? So I don't know, but it's also, I come back to like, you know, Tiger is like maybe the most private person like on the planet. So yeah, like I don't really want to speculate. Clearly, he's, you know, they want to tell you as much as they've told us, right? So both of his statements that were made were obviously made by his representation and they both included the word privacy.

Like, thank you for your privacy. And he doesn't get that. He doesn't get it. He never will. But it just makes me, I don't know, I hate to get worked up about the wrong things about it, but just seeing people speculating about him winning again and all the kind of faux tributes that were out there. We'll talk a little bit about the red and black stuff when we get to max.

That kind of bothers me a little bit, but I think people's, most of the most part people's hearts are in the right place, but at the same time, it just seems like cloud chasing. And I just, I didn't want to do anything to do with that. Yeah, it felt very, I guess people are gonna show support the way that they feel comfortable showing support, even if it's not the way that I would or we would. Sure, that's fair, that's very fair.

So, I do, it was funny. Like the number of ER surgeons, trauma doctors, orthopedists that reach out and said, like, yo, man, I can walk you through exactly what's going on here. I haven't seen his X-rays or anything, but I can walk you exactly through what's going on with his, you know, with the ankle, both these fractures, you know, all the

end. I'm like, yeah, man, like there's like 50 of you that are free to go with the same thing. It's like the jocks of, the jocks of doctors are like the orthopedists, right? The weight room guys, you know, like yo, let me, like, like going through the lifting, you know, techniques and stuff. Yeah. So I don't know. Let me ask you as this. Do you think, and I haven't read much on it the last few days, do you think any more insight comes out on a cause of the crash? Sure, I can say.

I'm like a dangerous ass road. I mean, that's, yeah. The part that, and again, I don't know what information to take in as truth and what not to is the part that was noted that there was no signs of breaking at any point, which concerns me. I don't know what that means. And again, any further would be speculating, but if that's part of the report from the crash and I hope I'm reporting that right, that just concerns me. And it almost like looking at it though, it almost seemed like there

was a, he hit that median. And then at that point, the car is kind of off of its axis or off of four wheels and at that point, there's no brakes to be. You're gonna have to break, there's no brakes to be had. Could be anything, I mean, could be, you know, you could be, I think about this sometimes when I drive in sandals, I'm like, this probably isn't that safe. Like my foot, if my foot slid out of my sandal, I could get trapped and I could not be able to reach the brake pedal and all this stuff. I could literally be anything.

So, I don't know, that's kind of where I think, you know, any further would go with speculation. But, you know, I just thought, I thought a lot about Kobe this week and just around this time last year when that happened and how just like final that was and how like, as not even a Kobe fan, I just like cried that day.

And because of his family and thinking about that. And so knowing that Tiger will get to see his kids again and has been, I'm sure this week, that very well could have gone a different way. I do wonder, and I'm sure it's just because Tiger has a fierce independent streak in him. But like with everything that he's been through over the last 10, 12, 15 years, like get him a driver.

Yeah. I mean, that's just, you know, like, it seems like a no brainer at this, especially at this point, but yeah. So all right, I think we can move on from that. We'll talk a little bit about the, the tributes as we mentioned. But let's talk about Colin Moore-Cal. We got a question from Caleb Fridge. There we go.

Worked in a question in the first 10 minutes of the show. So take that haters. Who's more dangerous? Who's more dangerous? A more a cow that can putt or a hovelin that can chip more. I think the more a cow. That's the answer right there. Uh, the shipping. He's been, he's been good this year. And it's been on Bermuda. Like this was on Bermuda this week and, and you've chipped well. So, you know, I don't think there's as many strokes to be gained for Havelin chipping wise. Right.

Oh, but Morkawa, yeah, he was 12th in Strokes Game putting this week. If he does that, it's over because he was number one in Strokes Game T to green. And number one, Strokes Game approached the green. It is seriously, I like calling Morkawa a lot. Honestly, a little boring to watch him hit the same shot into like every degree.

It's amazing. It starts five yards left to the pin and fives. Fires, the sheds, every time. And yeah. It's so repetitive. It is, and this is like the highest compliment I can pay someone of like, that is as technically solid of a golf swing with an iron as you can have.

It's so repeatable. And that's what makes it boring is like, yeah, it's just gonna do this pretty much every time. But the par three on the front after his early stumbles where he almost landed it in the pool. Yeah, like the fuck. When I was watching both yesterday and today, it feels like Mark Brody created more Kyle in a lab.

Like I've had a tough, not a tough time, but it's taken me a lot of like really understand Stroke's gained. And you know, I've read most of Brody's book and you know, it's kind of like the one thing that when I first learned about it, it was like the shots, the approach to the green, that's where the pros separate themselves from amateurs. They're not rolling in the 30 footers that you're seeing on TV.

They're just hitting it closer and making those putts more often. And more college is the embodiment of that. And that's what you're talking about about boring. That skill approaching the green just seems to cover up for other stuff that is, I wouldn't say subpar, but just solid, right? Like he doesn't wow me off the tee. He makes me a little uncomfortable around the greens. Like he flubbed a chip on two or three today, where you're like, man, that's not very good. And his putting some of his lag puts today,

I think what is it? 213th and putting, you know, I'm speaking to talk about that. On the year, but at the same time, even I think there's, you could make an argument that it's not that bad, but it's also not like, it's not jumping out the page. It's not a strength. It's not a strength.

I don't know if it is a strength yet. But it looked better. It's being able to, I don't think it's ever gonna be a strength, but as long as you're able to ride those hot streaks. But the announcer said something out, like he seems to know know not only is he hitting it close, it seems like he's always getting an easy put. Like he's hitting, he's like, getting the up close to the right side. Yeah, exactly. It's just like, wow, man. So like the more

I get in the golf and, and you know, embrace the data, I guess you could say, the more it's like, that is interesting for me to watch, but it is a bit boring. The one thing that is really interesting though, he's one of the few players where the shot tracer matches up on the way up and down. Right, and it's like, I remember when we were growing up and I was starting to hit the ball a little harder and I was mad when the ball started turning and I remember Tron saying to me on the range,

like nope, nope, the pros don't even hit it straight. No one hits the golf ball straight, like it's impossible. Like everybody picks a side and I know he tends to work it left to right, but it's like, I mean most of the time the ball's just coming off the face. It's like that ball's not moving. Man, like he's doing that. He's hitting it exactly at his target every time and it's just incredible. The stones to hit the driver, he hit on 12 and started at the native area with a cut

with a whatever shot lead he had at that point. And he does the same thing on 13. He stands up and hits a cut. You know, when, if it, so as someone learning to hit a cut, it's terrifying to aim left. Like, it really is because a lot of, you still have that ball that's not that loose. But I feel the same way, aim and write and trying to, you know, close, close everything down. I think that's just scar tissue for you, right? Like, yeah, you know, I mean- I played a draw going, grown up, and switched to close everything down. I think that's just scar tissue for you, right? Yeah.

I mean, I played a draw, going, growing up, and switched to a cut just partly because I got shitty after college, but also partly because I was like, I wanna know how far the ball goes, right? Especially with my irons. And yeah, it's like until you trust that, it's terrifying because your best swings

are always gonna go dead straight when you're trying to hit cut, you know. But that first time that you get the four-iron to stop on the green with the fade, you're like addicted to it. It's like, okay, this is the better way to play golf. So the guy, it is just like looking at the golf courses that set up very, very well for that fade because he hits, to left pins, he hits a fade. He does not try to match up the shot shape.

I don't think it's a quincen in cities one on two Jack Nicholas golf courses. That's a fade. He does not try to match up the shot shape. I don't think it's a quincen in cities one on two Jack Nicholas golf courses. That's a very good point. It's a very good point. I feel like I said this to Tron as covers was wrapping up. More Kawa is what I wanted, what I want Zander to be. It's like young, thoughtful, like I thought his post-round interview was awesome. He just seems like he's engaging and just like so much talent, such a beautiful swing. And it's like, you know, I've been kind of, my I picked Xander to almost be that guy.

And it's like, dude, it's, he's right in front of you. Like that's, that is the blueprint for Xander if he could break through. So same mental wins already. I know, man, it's crazy, right? And, and honestly, I would say better wins. He's thoughtful. Yeah.

He's thoughtful without seeming fake. Yeah, he's not cheesy. He seems so authentic and genuine and looks people in the eye and just really, like, you know, he's emotionally present. Yeah. Also, he seems to sweat, like his arms are out. He's like glistening.

He's got some morning kind of, but I'm like, I sweat a ton. I'm like, oh my god, he looks like glistening. I know it's a weird thing, but I'm like, I sweat a ton. I'm like, oh my god, he looks like he's getting just bacon out there. Like he's, I have some glandular issues. You should ask him about that. So, but he's relatable in that way. I just think he seems like a very real person.

And I appreciate that. So, side vent for, you're noting him being 213th in Shoks game putting. With the tour, way the tour schedule works now. Almost never do these stats actually matter. The stats should really start with the beginning of the calendar year because most of the fall season is... It's all spotty, whether or not they have the Shogs game data too.

They don't have it for the masters. He had three really bad weeks of Shriners. He had lost 1.6 shots, Zozo lost 1.8, and Genesis 1.8, that's per round putting. That's, there's a very, very bad putting weeks. So that, that just like, not skews it. Like that's representative of what he's done, but that's not even bad, it's bad as you have 42 puts.

I have 42 puts last week. That's tough scene. And my, my issue was bad, bad, bad, bad legs. Bad legs, have 40 puts last week. That's tough scene. And my issue was bad. Bad. Bad legs. Bad legs. Leave and myself outside six feet. And they just feel like not making this.

Well, I just feel like not making this. Maybe the stats, like I haven't done a deep dive into stats, but it seems like he's really hot and cold. Hey, like he's got, he's got very serviceable weeks and we have a serviceable week. He's in the top 10, top 20. He's sniffing around for a win. But for me, it's not so much the eight to 10 to 15 to 20 footers.

It's the four footers, right? It's the three and four footers that you know there's one in there that he's gonna miss. And it seemed like with this new, you know, putting stroke, he's got like, they were saying something about the closure rate and all that. Like it seems like he's a little bit more manageable for him. They were going in the middle of the hole this week.

Sometimes he lives on the edge, but they were going in the middle. Well, but it reminds me, we talked about this in previous pods, but that feeling of Phil Mikkelson, where you almost feel like Phil's gonna miss one of those short, like in his career, it's always like, God, of course he missed that. But it's like, he also makes, he hits it so close so often that it's almost like the odds say that yeah, he's going to miss some of those. But I worry about what I was going to say is I worry about,

you know, the honeymoon phase with the grip, with the putting stroke, right? It's almost like he's searching, you felt like I have this a little bit when I put where you get a new putter, you're hot for, you know, a couple rounds. And then it's just like, you gotta go back to the old one or like does that stick, right? You know, hopefully it does, because it looked really good this week, like you said. It was very, very impressive.

Also, I mean, he's gotta be exhausted too, right? Like, A, the fact that, you know, I know a lot of guys played over, like, he played the Middle East, what, two weeks in a row, January I think. I will fact check that, but the fact that he comes onto Bermuda and Putswell, that is encouraging to me,

because I think that's as a guy who's putting isn't a strength, like Bermuda is the toughest surface to put on. Really good Bermuda though can like make you right. It can get you right. I mean, in the greens obviously a concession are just absolutely meant. But just I love having with Bermuda

having that little tiebreaker of knowing which way the grain is going and how you can use that to kind of help the ball in the hole a little bit. So like I agree with like grainy-ass Bermuda can be a very issue slow grainy-ass Bermuda. But when we play in the ult shot, turni, I'm with you.

I kinda, once you kinda start to understand the grain, and even as a viewer, I know we'll probably talk about the course later, but the, you know, aerials of the greens, like seeing the shiny, the shiny versus the dark spots, it's almost like makes your brain fire. Like, oh my god, there's so much going on in this putt. Like, I don't know what, I can't read it with them,

but it just makes you, it makes me pay attention more, I guess. I'll take that back about this. So he played Dubai and then had two weeks off and then played Genesis. Gotcha. But he also played Dubai at the end of the year of tour, year, week 50. They're at the very end of the year.

So he's had some travel. He's 24, he's fine. He's fine. I do, so speaking of repeatable and the golf swing that came with that, I got some to talk to you guys about. I've been using my rap sodo, mobile launch monitor here.

We're going for a more repeatable swing. I do. You've been using your rap sodo? I've been using my rap so I'm like, he's been grinding. I went to the range twice Yeah, he was if you have two range so I mentioned this on a previous pod I'm chasing speed. I'm going I'm going for some swing speed. All right, so it is super helpful

I'm on a plan and I'll talk I'll cover that in you know some future content But it is super helpful to have a tool that you can use to give you measurable data on how you're doing, right? So all I've done right now is my baseline testing for my swing speeds, but I'm documenting it. I'm calculating averages, I'm calculating mediums of what my swing speed is.

Honestly, kind of seeing the launch angle changed from shot to shot was a little bit disturbing. I kind of thought I got things out of a window, a pretty regular clip, but my rap sodo is giving me other data. And it's gonna help me, I hope it helps me kind of train my body to make a more repeatable swing. It's incredibly accurate.

If you don't know what we're talking about, it's a tiny little mobile launch monitor. It's very portable, it's about the size of a rangefinder. Yeah, size of a rangefinder, size of a portable hard drive. Yes, it automatically tracks that, it stores video with each shot, with shot tracer, it's helpful for club gapping,

which I believe you can speak to. Well, yeah, we got some new clubs heading our way, I'm switching from the Apex to the pros, the more gamer clubs. So I'm gonna need to get on the rapoto to figure out how far those goes compared to the Nuky boy irons I've been playing the past couple of years. It prevents you from just having mind, just from mindlessly hitting balls, you can use an indoor and outdoor.

So you can go to you can go to rapsoto.com slash NLU and you can use promo code NLU for $50 off. Again, that's rapsoto, RAPSODO.com forward slash NLU use promo code NLU for $50 off. Again, that's RAPSOTO, RAPSODO.com forward slash NLU, use promo code NLU for $50 off. Purposeful practice. It is. It's made my practice having something to actually know what it's tracking it too,

knowing that I'm not just blasting balls out and oblivion there. Or making changes to a driver setup, like hit in 10 with one, you know, the draw bias on and hitting 10 more without it, it's like, you actually get, instead of just being anecdotal. It's equipment change season.

Well, it also equipment change season. And it's a good time to have a rap soda. So I'm doing sessions of eight drivers, session of eight, rest for two minutes session of eight, rest session of eight, and like, my Swingspeed was going up with each session, which I found interesting. It was like the more you get warmed up, the more you get.

You're getting your glutes. That's another thing I'm gonna be working on. Brooks, Capca, I don't have a lot to say other than like, this week kind of caught my attention even a little more than the win, if he's gonna go out on the... I had this one marked too, Sally. Yeah.

It's kind of like, all right, that win wasn't, not that any win on the PJ Tours of Fluke, but you kind of don't know what you're gonna get from Brooks week to week, but a trending Brooks is a concern as we had in the major SCN. It's also somewhere where he probably feels comfortable because it feels like Some of the stuff he plays down south Florida too. Yeah, I got some Jason Dave vibes from him A lot of the you know, so I think it was more I Almost I have to give him credit. Like he's, I've kind of been stuck between like,

this Brooks, like does he really not care? Like is this, you know, is the alpha stuff real or not? I think it's real. I mean, he just like, Saturday, he's just steps up and makes these like 20 foot par puts and just other dudes, like he just, he feels like the iceman, you know? Like I don't find anything rooting for him, but like I almost felt like I have to kind of tip my cap to him.

Because he just feels like, it feels like the moment is never too big for him. Like all the, like he just, he really does kind of outlast people, especially on hard golf courses. And like this was an example that like, yeah, Morokawa just was too far out in front. But Brooks just, he didn't fade, you know what I mean I mean he just he just grinded it out all the way to the end of the day. Keoah feels like a good good spot for Brooks. They kind of all do don't they? Like talking about like hitting a really straight golf ball. Yeah that's the guy that I think of when like other than more college like hitting like probably even more so than Mooracawa, hitting just a wickedly straight driver. He's also got, like watching him hit wedges all week,

he's got such good tempo with the, you know, with the approach, like, you know, hits the ball a mile, but doesn't look like it's, it's, it takes a lot of effort. I think Brooks is becoming the guy that I want the rib to be. Well, you know, I had that marked as well. I think the rib to be. Well, you know, I had that marked as well. I think the rib is stuck between Brooks and kind of that

DGaff, like I'm the best bad as dude out here. And I'm going to try really hard and be and like, Namaste, like nothing's going to phase me like a little bit of like, like, and then he just gets stuck in this like, apathetic middle ground where you're like, like, oh, sorry, it's not so much Brooke. It's like Brooks Dgaff and Billy Ho all in. You know, Billy Ho is living and dying on every shot and it's almost like,

you've cut a lot of Billy Ho takes the right thing too. Oh, yeah, but I feel like Rory, it's like he's stuck in the middle of those two things. Does that make sense? It does, I think he probably changes like week to week, I feel like with what he says in terms of, you know, I've heard him say, him say, maybe I'm just not as good at golf as I used to be and also say how passionate

he is about it and I think he is trying to figure out what works for him in terms of how much to care. Yes, exactly. Where is the one guy out there where? Which to be clear, he really cares. But like, caring too much can hurt you, right? So do you try to convince yourself that I care about? It's almost like, and it's kind of fascinating to watch that play out week to week with him,

but it's just disappointing, because you're like, God, Rory, like you are the alpha. Like, I don't know, like you did this before all these other things. Yeah, get back to that, man. It almost feels like with Rory that it is, we've held him to the standard of the guy that won four majors for a long time, but it's been long enough now

That's kind of like, you know what dude you kind of need to reproof it. Like you're you're not that guy anymore It's been six years. We're up on seven years since you've won a major So like kind of need to you can't you can't pull on that experience of having done it nearly as closely when it's been that long Sure things with Rory. I think first He's the only guy out there that I'm like, Rory, actually, in interviews and everything, give me less. Just do less.

What less information, right? Like, you're putting yourself out there way too much. You're too vulnerable. And second, I think some of the stuff that made Rory really, really, really successful and very, like gave him a massive advantage over the field. The field had time to catch up on that stuff, right? Like, Rory felt like he had crazy speed and create,

you know, and kind of taking over the mantle from Tiger on that front. And then, you know, other guys, like, technology caught up, other guys caught up, launch angles caught up, whereas it felt like Rory always kind of had that high launch hit up on it kind of mentality, even from a young age. Yeah. I wonder what Rory gets out of a T.

He finished T6 this week, but which by like any measure, it's really good. It's incredible. Yeah. Like if it was Fina, I'd be sitting here saying, he's showing some flashes. He made some longputs today, like he, he played solid, but it just doesn't, he, it feels like there's no juice out there with them. You know? He ate 78% of his greens this week.

Yeah, I don't know. Anacdotally for me, when I watch Rory, I feel like every time I get frustrated with him and his wedges, still. Where it's like, yo man, just I put a pitch and put in your back yard or something. It's like, it's the thrower. Not a picture of that.

Yeah, just start, just get better from 100 yards and in because you're always there and it always feels like he puts it to like 15 feet. I'm like, come on man. What do the stats say? Yeah, I know. And that's why I said anecdotally. It's almost like every time I tune in,

that's what I see and maybe that's not in the case. Because I think some of this is just, it's not sample size, but it's sample that we're delivered on TV, right? That good point. Yes, and I remember, I know I've that we're delivered on TV, right? That's good point. Yes, and I remember, I know I've looked this up in the past, I hate the, when you Google, Roy McRoy, PJ Tour, you don't get, you get the video game and not his profile.

But I remember looking this up and be like, actually his numbers, you know, will show out a better, you know, better than you would expect them to from a certain number. So he's, yeah, this year, 150 second approaches from 50 to 125 yards, 190 third from 125 to 150 yards. Damn, not good. Average of 24 feet, 10 inches.

Switched to a new shaft this week. Like he's making tweaks, he's working on things. But really good from 50 to 75 yards, that's for two attempts though. So again, the data on the tour. Yeah, that's like that yardage sit, like what tire like refused to hit the ball too. Like you would just avoid it at all costs.

Like I'm never putting the ball within 50 to 75 yards. Unless you're punching out to that. Yeah, I don't know. I hope that he gets a, I don't know what to say, a fire lit under his ass, because I know he's trying it I just wonder yeah, I know at a certain point when you've get had so many bummer

I read for Rory. He's like probably my favorite player out there, right? I do and you say do less than the interviews. I love that he's well Yeah, of course we love it But he so we have this question from Mike McGee 51 was why is it when you look at a leaderboard like that like we had going into today The only guy you knew for sure wouldn't win was Rory. God, that's like, oh, that cut. He was far back though. He was, I did not think he was in this to potentially win today.

Yeah, but the Rory common tweets are, are few and far between. Going back in Rory, 68% of his greens all week, 78% on the week, on Sunday. I mean, sometimes like with the wedges again, anecdotal, it just feels like he's trying to like, over swing a lob wedge. You know, it's like, whoa, just choke up, man. And just get more control over it. I do think you can deduce it down to,

like there is a vent diagram where the overlap between what they show on TV and what's an important moment, in the middle there is a pretty big circle, right? Where when they do show him with a wedge in his hands on Saturday or Sunday, like, that's a big moment, right? Otherwise, they probably wouldn't be showing him. And I feel like he's just not... To me, it feels like the battle between natural ability

and mechanical or... Well, it feels like he's not even playing great golf and finishing tie for sixth, right? So that makes it frustrating. But like when Tony Fino finishes tie for sixth, it's like, dude, you want a great week you play. Like that's incredible golf. And we just haven't seen like the crazy week long peak

from Rory in quite some time. He was playing awesome golf before everything hit last year, which he got, I don't want to say screwed out of that, but like he was really, really, really trending heading into the players and that was unfortunate timing for him. He just hasn't been in the sharpener. And we know, like that's his favorite walk in all of golf. It's about 50 to 100 yards too long. And the side of his most important shot, maybe, maybe most defining shot, maybe ever.

Six iron on 15. Yeah. From that bunker. Who's going to maybe most defining shot, maybe ever. Six iron on 15. Yeah. From that bunker, who's gonna hit the defining shot this year? Unbelievable. How about the fleet would bring it in Fleetwood Mac this year for the 17th? My favorite, like one thing that DJ said very early on when it came to like making videos and like teaching me about making videos was like, I don't want to like, you don't have to spell it out for people.

You don't have to like tell people what to think. And so when I see that commercial when it's like, right on't wanna, you don't have to spell it out for people. You don't have to tell people what to think. And so when I see that commercial, when it's like, right on the edge of 17 and they flash the sign that says, whole 17, this is what we're doing here. We're taking this song and we're applying it to the 17th hole. Can you see what we're doing? And you're treating their audience like, in the end, I was gonna say, TZ, the definition of treating the audience like they're stupid.

Yes, tremendous. And I know you saw it the previous 35 times, so maybe on the 36th, you're really gonna understand the reference here, so. But shout out to Fleetwood Mac, just raking in the royalty money on that one. You have some horse-takes, Neil? Yeah, I do.

I watch a lot of Billy Ho, which he's not my favorite guy, but I actually appreciate, today I felt like I really appreciated him being in contention. He is just a ball of tension. And it's almost like you can tell he feels that way because he spends about 30 seconds getting his four arms loose before he swings the club.

He's got a little chimer in him too with the arms wet. He does. And he's like kind of closet Opus Day where he's like, you can tell like really wants to beat up on himself, but he's kind of got's like, kind of closet Opus Day where he's like, you can tell like really, really wants to beat up on himself, but he's kind of got that like, ha ha, you know, I'm smiling, I'm laughing, I'm hitting out of the water. I'm calling everybody. Yeah, like, that was everything's fine,

but then they like flashed to him like smiling, and it's just like, and there's some tension behind those eyes. But I like that, it's exciting. It's kind of how I feel watching Hattenpoy. You get some passion and some, like, he wants it, it and I we need more of that on the PGA. He feels very watching Billy feels very relatable for me. Yes.

Where what I'm playing. Good go. He's got quick tempo. He's wild kind of tight, but like everything always feels like it's on a knife's edge with him. And what I like about Horshull is he honestly doesn't seem like he cares what anyone thinks. Like he doesn't, I don't think he tries to buddy up too many people on tour. He kind of runs in his own circle from what I understand and doesn't really fake much of anything. He's kind of wears it out on his sleeve.

He also, he's also very quick to run to a microphone, though, too, which I have a tough time balancing those two things because I feel the same way. Which I have a tough time balancing those two things because I feel the same way. I feel like he's very content to march to be of his own drum out on the golf course. And then afterwards, it seems like he always wants his voice to be heard.

I don't know if it's him running to the microphone as much as like if someone puts a microphone in front of him. He has a lot to say. Which, I don't agree with a lot of what he says, but I don't have a problem with him being honest. It's always very emotional. Yeah. When Marshall gets hot, the golf wise, he gets hot.

That's what I was going to say. It's almost like he goes through, he's like the microwave guy. Like, he'll just go away for two years. Because, and then all of a sudden, it's like, oh my god, Billy Ho's still doing it. Like, you know, so yeah, he's got some longevity to his game. I think it's because his tempo is like he's so timing based. His tempo is so quick at the top, but when you're on, you're on.

I mean, that FedEx cup, you want that was like the ultimate heater. That was truly 80 seconds after Boston came out of nowhere to win the whole thing. So yeah, hovelin. I got a question from CK Spoth. I don't know where to, never know where to cut off like the initials in the rest of the name. Do you agree that Hodland is still criminally underrated, never misses a cut and is seemingly always in contention. Pinsleman for a major the next 12 months in my opinion. I struggle to talk about Hodland with Sally because it just reminds me my Sam Bowie moment

with the Fred X cup. So, well, that was the biggest own goal of the last three or four years. Yeah, I got, I the biggest own goal of the last three, four years. Yeah, I got, I got, I got got there. I got got bad. It's good news for you. Horseshoes, Birdy on 17, put him in a T2 position with Hovlin, because Hovlin was projected to lead the tour

in money made this year, but now he's second to DJ. So, that's, well, that's good. He might win the Fred X cup, like on his own, yeah, I know. I might have money earned. I mean, you guys are like, Shaffler played today too.

Yeah, and Victor, like, doubled him up and cashed it. So, it's the Fred X Cup's over. It's been over. Talk about a Deering guy, so. How was it so easy to root for? He's the best, man. Like, that was so awesome. When he made the quad on Friday,

like, he stands up there and does the interview and they padded him on the back a million times for that. But just like, how are you, like, how are you able to sit here and talk about it? He's just like, yeah, I think it's just like a coping mechanism right now, because I think inside he was fuming at wasting away four shots when you're playing really good golf. But there's something about when Harold Varner

had that torrid opening round last year at Charles Schwab, and he tripled the next hole. I remember him saying something along lines of like, when you make a triple, when you're playing good, it's really not that big a deal, because like, you know, you can get it back. And I think that's exactly how he felt. Like, he just went right out and played insanely good golf

right after making... What a quad. Gosh, that just blows my mind. Right? What a freeing feeling that must be. Yes. I just made a triple, but you know what? Who gives you shit?

I'm gonna bury three other next five holes. And I I just made a triple, but you know what? Who gives you shit? I'm gonna bury three other things, five holes. And I forget who told me this, but somebody said like, you know, I think it was, yeah, when I quieted the opening hole at the Jack's Beach city and one of the guys I was playing with was like, if you're gonna make a quad, what hole would you want it on? The last one you play, or the first one? And I was like, well, it sucks to do in your first one,

but like, yeah, probably the first one is like, exactly. You have 53 holes remaining until I get it back. Like if you finish with a quad, then you just have to sit there and stew over it. And I was like, that's really interesting perspective. Not that, yeah, he finished with that Friday. So he had to go sit with that, but he did have 36 holes remaining and he played them in 11 under after that. Is there something about Hoveland just looking at, I mean, he's, you know, looking at him, my

co-op of first, DP World Tour Championship in Dubai, T3, didn't play well in Kapalua, and then T2 at Farmers, T6 at the Ponsaw and T5 at the Genesis, and then this week. Is there something with him where we feel like he wastes shots every once in a while or he watching him at Tori, for instance? I felt like there were just some loose shots down the stretch that I mean, is this just part of his maturation and part of his or is it something to where like it's like making the quad, for instance, like it or is there something kind of in his in his mindset in the way that he plays to where he's going to make a shitload

of birdies, but it's also because he's just like a highly volatile player to hold a whole. I think there were a couple shots out there today to that point where he like went at the stick and the announcer's like, there's no way he can get it close here. And it's like, he does, but like that might have been noted again, not really. I know, but it's like, yo, that's you're not supposed to, you're not supposed to flag that one. Basically, like the data says, you know, don't hit it there. And he does it and pulls it off. Well, there's probably, there's a dark side of that style of play,

which puts him in the bushes when he got that crazy birdie up and down. Oh, 13. 13. So freaking good. That shot was unbelievable. It was like, yeah, yeah, he misses in some bad spots when I'm getting at.

Or when he missed left at Tori on that, on that whole at Tori when he, you know, and then he got the big ruling over there and everything and stuff. Oh yeah, yeah, long left. Yeah, it's like man, like that's not a good miss. That's not the place to miss, but he did it because he's going at the pin.

Yeah. It's like maybe he's just the ultimate gunslinger, right? And that's a good word for it. He definitely is. And he's got, he's also got that like, boyish, like, chuckle. And also like the way it dresses, it looks like he's, you know, it's not great, you know, his outfits aren't great.

I'm gonna be honest, but it is charming. It's like a middle schooler, like, yeah, I don't know, man. I just like this orange color, whatever. Was it DJ that said he had stoned Rory vibes? That's a big time. Big time. Yeah, it's, his tribute to, this is a Porter tweet today. His tribute to Ricky Fowler today was tremendous.

It just feels like the, like the, you know, the boy genius a little bit, you know, he's, he's, uh, yeah, he's fun to watch for sure. And they were kind of all over him on Friday for, you know, how he played that ninth hole. But like he had, for those that didn't see it, he, you know, thinned a bunker shot from the fairway over the green into the Paul Meadows.

And that was where he had no good option from there. It was gonna say it wasn't a Decisionary no actionary just sort of He can't can't take the on playable because it wouldn't make it any better basically It wouldn't have made a much any much better you so you technically could have taken it But and then you know take two on playables by assume right? Yeah, get it eventually to a good drop or you can can go back to the bunker, and if you drop in a bunker, it's gonna plug. So what do you, like you chunk it out there, hit five on maybe make six, probably make seven.

He probably thought he could make better than seven from that back. I will say, yeah. Watching the whole sequence today, it was at 13, where like, you know, he had seven different clubs out of his bag, he was gonna hit it one handed, backhanded. There was all sorts of shit going on. And Neal's like, dude, just take the unplayable.

And then he steps up there and hits it to there. But that could have been disastrous too, right? So maybe that's... Oh my God, there's so many. I saw like he could have taken, I didn't can't see the angle to the pin, but it looked like he might have been able to go sideways and get to grass with an unplayable.

But that could be, that's pure speculation. But but that just goes to show you like that's a window into his mentality. Like not only is he not taking the unplayable or not pitching outside ways. No, he's like, he's trying to get into a 10 foot circle. Yeah. I mean, the he got the shot he hit out of the Palmetto on Friday was too good. Like, he got way too much ball and that it went up against the back lip of that bunker. If it goes anywhere else in that bunker, he's fine. It was just, I don't know.

I like guys are gonna play golf that way and are gonna play aggressively. And so I was trying to get a tweet in of some kind that was like, oh, three wood, huh? Well, you're fired after you hit it to seven feet. That was like the highlight moment of the, that was the best shot I feel like I saw this week was that one from Havelin. But he is fun to watch.

All right, so this one from the leprechaun, yeah. And he's got his pictures of the... Anybody else see leprechaun say, yeah. Shout out to Mobile Oliver. Who you putting stock in right now amongst the young crew, we see Morakow and Havelin bucking their heads in Wolf W.D. after a smoke in 83. That's tough.

I lost a future bet on that. I think I had Wolf win in next before those two. I think it's definitely Morakow. I mean, and that's not recency bias. I think I said the same thing at the end of the year, beginning of the year this year. I think Hovland's going to be there more, but Morakow is probably going to win more. Yeah. Like Hovland feels more volatile or feels like he's going to be in the mix a lot, but

Moricale, like when he, when it's in his grasp, it's his, man. So that's a bit, that's a bit counter to what you were saying, like, who's more the first question we talked about? Well, I think Moricale is still going to probably go up and down with his putting, but like, he's going to go out and snatch these things, whereas I don't want to say Hovlin has phenyl tendencies, but I feel like Hovlin is just going to rack up T-sixes. And whereas Moore Cowell, I feel like when he sniffs it, he goes and gets it.

I think it might be a dog versus killer situation. I'm curious, so good. Well, I'll put it. With this new, you know, putting grip, if that brings his floor up with his putting, that could be, very well could be. Where like Moore Cowell might be, you know, like I'm sensing, there's whiffs of

Like very very very great. Yes Somebody said the resume is like 100% more kawa like you know somebody sent a DM over under 17 and a half wins for more kawa I'm going over. I'm like I know it's so easy to go over every time it's after No, I'm normally I'm with you. Yeah, it's's over the road. He might make a hundred million on the course. He's almost got 10. He's 24. So three pot poppy asks is another wolf WD scummy or should we be worried about his mental health?

Serious question. Ryan Lavner wrote a piece for golf channel this week kind of floating that question diving into it. It wasn't like sourced with like this person close to him says this, but like it read to me like, all right, Lavner doesn't write that without having some stuff on background there. And it just doesn't seem like Wolf is doing great. It is worth noting in the article. He also notes that like should be a senior in college. And I think it's 21 years old and has won on the PGA tour and has almost won a major and has had a great run this fall and it has not lasted over into the spring.

And it is a question like how ready are people to be professionals? And despite having some success on the course, you made almost six million bucks on there. For everyone that said, like, you know, I knew that swing wouldn't hold up and all this shit, like no, shut up. Like he has had success on tour in a lot of success. And also he's got security, right? He's got status for the next, at least two years.

It's like, you know, man, take some time. Get your mind right if you need to. And also just, I least two years, it's like, you know, man, take some time, get, you know, get your mind right if you need to. And also just, I don't know, I think sometimes these guys, maybe they do run themselves ragged without, if you're a dude that has the ability to take some time off, do it. If you need it.

Especially going back to like COVID stuff where it's gotta be, like, I feel like the tours are lonely place to begin with. It's gonna be even lonely or now, right? Where you've got. 100% that's what Lavner was getting at was like with COVID and like the lack of hang going on right now on tour and like basically you finish playing golf

and you go back to a hotel room like, dude what I was doing. I was 21 and Wolf seems like kind of an extrovert. Like he likes to talk, he likes to be around others. He recharges being around others. And when you have to go back to the hotel and you're just sitting there in your room by yourself, that sucks.

At 34, that's amazing. And I would love that. But at 21, you could not have paid me, you probably could have paid me $5 million to it, but I could not be good for me. So I think it is just a hold your judgment on this. You know, this is part of growing pains and I don't know. The WD, I think, you know, some people calling it scummy whatnot. If the guy is clearly not in a good headspace, I don't know what reason you

need to provide to not play, but I don't think you're especially for a tournament where you're there's not really fans. Well, there's your under no obligation. I think the other thing there, there is in a tournament like this, not really fans. Well, you're under no obligation to be. I think the other thing, there is, in a tournament like this, there's no alternates. Right. The big thing with WDing for me is if there's, if there's alternates and you're taking up somebody's spot in the field,

and you know you're not gonna go, you know, and maybe that's just me rationalizing this, but at some point he legitimately wasn't taking someone else's spot in the field. And did he get the money for this? Like I forget, yeah, you get the last place check did he get the money for this? I forget. Yeah, you get the last place check. You get the last place check.

I couldn't remember what that just was, 50K, 32K, 32. I forget if they changed it after... Yeah, the DB straight five. The burger was where he teed off and then left with a 50,000 up. That is pretty scummy. He screamed, put the money in the bag on the tee. Which I mean, of all courses too,

to where you're gonna do lasting damage to your psyche in your golf game if you keep playing like shit around there, where it just keeps piling up and piling up. I don't, a lot of weeks I get on guys for WD, he's got some wrist issues, I guess lately too, like just whatever, just wash your hands clean, get right, you know. I think whatever, just wash your hands clean, get right.

Yeah, I think it preaching patience in this scenario. And I think a lot of people out there, I'm obviously still rooting for the guy. I think a lot of people out there are still rooting for the guy. Same here, if only for like more unique golf swings on tour. And he almost won like two majors ago, the guy would finish second.

Like this is not that long ago. That's, and that's why I get even more upset with people, like you said, that say like, oh, that swing will never hold up. You should be rooting for that swing to hold up. It's more interesting. You don't want everybody to hit the golf ball the same way.

That's not fun to watch. Bottom line, he's 21. Exactly. Should something in college. Jay Ed Meads 27, needs some input on the blasphemy in Max's Twitter comments yesterday. He's in peace for Max.

This is like... He's in peace for the fucking moron in Max's replies. We're like, anybody that sent us an email or a tweet that hasn't seen it. Max tweeted out that he's like, I would already packed for this trip. I will not be wearing red and black tomorrow in tribute of the cat. And he just got...

And Max and I are on the same page. I don't wear red ever. Max isn't where red. It's like legit. I don't wear packing. I don't wear a kelly green. And Max is what four or five logos on his shirt where like it's not like you can run down to.

Well, that was the best part is every other reply was to we go down and just take a trip to PGA Superstore. So you know what I do wanna give a shout out to is Scottie Sheffler. That's exactly what it looks like you did, is he walked into PGA Superstore and picked up off a clearance rack and Nike shirt that was on sale. And they're like, sorry man, we only got three XLs.

Is that cool? Yeah, yeah, that's fine, I'll take it. That was kind of the ultimate tribute to, to, truly, exactly. That was kind of the ultimate tribute to to truly. Exactly. That was that was the tribute. I mean, totally like hats off to Sky Shepler. But that works if you're a Nike athlete because Nike athletes don't have other sponsors on their ship. That's, yes. And I'm talking to our two merch guys right here. And we have logos on for the players that we sponsor on their clothing. We have logos. How easy is that? Getting a T-S-T style to an embroider and all that. It's not a simple process.

And then, like, oh, you know, your sponsors should understand. You know, like, what's not what? It's just like, also Max wasn't shown on TV the whole day anyway. So, so. So, who gives a shit? Right?

I can't tell you how many people reach out. Like emails, DMs, you know, you guys need to be banging. I can't tell you how many people reached out. Like emails, DMs, you guys needed to be banging the, I can't believe you're not banging the drum for everyone wearing red out there. I went to the driving range today. There were three or four hardos wearing like red Nike mock turtlenecks on Sunday today of all the, you know, in honor of the cat.

And I'm like, honestly, like Max had a great response. Hey, I'm gonna honor the cat in my way, which is like winning his tournament last week and then modeling my entire game after his. And that's that, right? I just could not be even more out on like guilt shaming people into honoring someone. And also, the guy's still alive.

No, it's also just a complete brand orgy of like, people into honoring someone. And also, the guys still alive. No, it's also just a complete brand orgy of like, oh, dude, you know, tragedy strikes. Like, let's use our clothing. Let's use this to sell shit. Is basically what, like, let's really take a look at this tribute we have here. It's basically just like more brand awareness for Nike,

which is like, hey, cool. You know what, Nike sponsors Tiger just like more brand awareness for Nike, which is like, hey cool, you know what, Nike sponsors Tiger, I have no problem with that, but like, you know, it's stupid, it's not, I don't know, I'm gonna fire it up. The only one I feel like I saw that wasn't a Nike athlete was Patrick Greed, and nobody asked him what to wear anyway, he doesn't have sponsors really, too, and he's wearing a title that's happy he doesn't get paid to wear either. But everyone else was Nike, like that is a brand play here. Like you come on people, you're capable of seeing past this.

Aside from the fact that Sheffler was wearing, you know, wearing that oversized shirt and everything like that. Which was sick. He got off the clearance. Laura was wearing the same one. What a bad fucking shirt. Oh, huge.

Tough scene there with the routing shirt. Somebody said, now I, like, God, I wish I knew this was. It was, it was Mackenzie, or it was Rainer's original routing at Cypherst. Cypherst, that maybe chuckle. That was a great tweet. I thought it was Rasmus Hogard's shot tracer there

to the right of something today. Yeah, that, it just beyond silly to. God, how much of a volume of volume shooters Nike, just they just throw a ton of shit at the wall and they chuck up a lot of airballs with what they're- Sometimes it looks like they're literally throwing shit at the wall and then taking a screenshot. Yeah, I mean, they really, really throw a lot out there

and it's like, they miss a lot of shots, but, you know, they're still, you know, they're still putting them numbers, but like judging from the replies to Max's tweet, they're still, you know, they're still put a number, but like judging for the replies to like Max's tweet, they're probably selling this to a lot of not smart people. A hundred percent terrifying, right? Like that is a scary insight to how I hope not listeners

of this podcast, but how a lot of golf fans, you know, think things work. Speaking of the, I'm saying, speaking of the, of the shirt gate stuff, how about, um, uh, more kawa was going to get a shirt delivered. It got delayed. It didn't get there on time. Hmm. Did that make us FedEx cut off? Allegedly FedEx. Uh, allegedly, allegedly, you know, what, what was Sergio's honor? Oh, God. Well, yeah, Sergio had about four mistakes in his tweet too. It was Sergio wore what, green and yellow?

He wore that keen shirt, the one with no collar, the green and yellow, a D-t shirt. And then called Tiger the reigning master's champ. Reigning major champ. Reigning major champ? Yeah. Which makes even less sense then. Yeah, which is like, well, first of all, he's DJ one, so there's somebody else that's raining,

and it's just like, oh, now I get it. He wore green as in the master's champ. Raining, but I think like, yes. I know. Raining master's champ is like, I know DJ, which is like, okay. I truly was like, oh, yeah, it's not red and black, but it's green in honor of the cat.

I was like, that's just a color, man. Like that's not even, like that's a b- No, I wore a shirt today. It really struck me as like, he finishes round and was like, how can I, how do I work this like a made up lie? It just like, oh, I can, I can, you know, I can make it sound like I thought through this, but it's like, dude, we all know, like Adidas has been

sending that shirt out with scripting for every other guy and they're stable. Like that's not true. Of all people, Sergio. Yeah. Like, yo, Sergio, nobody's asking you anything, man. Let's talk about the golf course. We haven't really talked about it much.

It's not got a lot of questions. Road to the AM says, what event should concession host each year, WGC, elevated event, the military tribute at the concession, et cetera. What do you guys think? I mean, are all bet like we can move any event to the concession? Let's just, I'll work in a couple more concession questions.

I did do the WGC. That's a good, I mean, the place feels like it's in the middle of nowhere, and the tournament kind of feels like it's no cut, and you, I said to TC on the back, and I like, man, that is a stacked leaderboard. But I'm not getting a ton of juice from it, but it is like, we're watching a lot of good golfers battle it out here.

And that's the kind of, with that kind of purse, I think that kind of challenge is, is a good, it could almost be a good identity for the WGC of like, really, really hard golf course and the best 50 guys. Like let's, let's go at it, right? I actually, I like that. I will, so I'll take you one farther there. I think that the HSBC champions WTC presented by money laundering HSBC, all that,

is I think they should move there and then just tell people that it's in China and like nobody goes that tournament anyway. And they could just say, Hey, it's HSBC and we're in China or whatever, but they play it at the concession on tape delay. And but it to your point, like that getting the WGC's and identity would actually be a good thing. Yes. I will say this WGC and I know it's moved, it's changed names and

it feels like a different one. This one delivers a lot. I mean, D'Aral was fun to watch. I hated D'Aral. After they redid it though and all the players hated it, that was interesting. It was interesting. I feel like I would have loved watching that now. Yeah. But, you know, 10, 15 years ago. Yeah, back before the NLU days, it was tough for me to distinguish one Florida course from another. It just felt very, but what's it moved to Mexico? That was fantastic.

And this concession is like, I said it on Thursday, it's like, what is the purpose of this golf course if not to host PJ Torvins? Because, AMs have no shot on this course. And not to hamster in this, but I was a little disappointed in how NBC covered the slopes around the greens.

I didn't see one handheld near the green to like, I think we're officially shifting our focus from CBS. CBS is off. You guys are off the hot seat. The eye is now. The eye is now on NBC and TC is is. NBC. And Tommy Roy, you guys are absolutely mailing it in.

I mean, there's a giant, the no drone and no like panning. No, no wind thing. Like it is. I do wind thing. Yeah, they do wind. Yeah, the NBC does wind, but like they don't have the kit. The I think the, I think the players will be a big, a big spot for them. Hope so.

So hey, you know, it's like CBS is a gust. Well, one other thing on the, and I know this is your block, Sally, but it is thrilling to watch balls roll off the green. Oh, yeah. It's just a simple, you know, and I know it's hard to, like, oh, god, that is like, you, guy thinks he hits a great shot and it just rolls 30 feet, you know, off the back

and now he's, now he's screwed. That is awesome to watch. And I wish I saw more of that in professional wealth. Watching Saturday, the 13th hole, that was the most alive I've felt watching golf is watching dudes just repeatedly make the mistake, like not understanding that a potentially a par five today might not be meant to reach in two shots.

Like if you wanna get near this pen, you're not gonna stop it there. Like why are you trying to and they just cannot fathom or grasp the idea of not going at a pin or, you know, not worry, like actually having to worry about where you leave it around the green and a true death spot.

Long left of 13, it could session is, I'm not, this is not hyperbole. The worst miss I've ever seen on a golf course. Like it, they did a horrible job of showing how far below the surface you are, but it's Sweden's cove on acid. I was going to say, it reminds me a lot of the way I feel when I play at Sweden's where you feel like you hit a good shot, you know, number eight at

Sweden's will be a great example and you're two feet right of where you want to be and you're off the back right of the green and you're screwed. It's great and it's in that that's a stimulating course to play, and it's fun to watch. And I also like it when these guys miss there, and you just flipped on coverage, guy missed in what looks like a very, oh, that's short-crash.

That looks like it should be pretty easy, because obviously we're not seeing kind of the slopes and why it's not easy, but when the announcers are able to say then, it helps them be like, he's dead there. Like that is not good. And it's just like, instead of just playing some gouged shot out of,

yeah, now I'm locked into like, oh, I gotta see this. Like is he right that he, is he really dead? I can't wait to watch this chip shot. So I like that a lot. I think with NBC, it's very, it's over-reliance on tower cams. Yeah.

And that's what, everything is just tower cam. And all that, all that stuff that you guys are talking about gets washed out, right? Right. Fun fact, Ted King, co-creator of Sweetens' Cove, shaped many of the greens out of the concession. Which I heard that this week.

And I remember Ben. That makes a lot of sense. When we went out there, Ben called it. They said it was Bryson's sweetens. Bryson's sweetens because like it's just a grand scale of concession, but with wild ass crazy greens that are crazy punishing. This is definitely your block solid, but more short grass.

Yeah. I mean, let that ball run away. Leave guys uncomfortable, especially on Bermuda. And we got a question there that we should probably back up and answer, you know, this is from Adam McCleaney said, help me understand what's different about the grass when going from so cow to Florida, is it really different?

For people that don't play on Burmute a lot, that could be our, you know, UK listeners or wherever you might be, it is so different when you play with grain. And when you have a chip where the grain is working against you, your contact has to be so precise, so precise that I will put it. Like, if you put me into the grain,

if I like, you know, take a chip and your club just like grabs the grass, I will put the that I will put it. Like if you put me into the grain, if I like, you know, take a chip, and your club just like grabs the grass, I will put the club back and put it almost in every situation. It also makes the shoot like a lot of, you see a lot of the guys pointing like, how did it go that way, right? It's like, well, it's the grain. Yeah.

You know, like that makes, it just makes, I think, more exciting golf to watch. There's more unpredictability, I guess. If people wanna ask like what grain does to people, the reason that I'm playing left-handed for a year is because of wet grainy brimuda. It's a nightmare to chibuff us. And it seeps into your head.

It's like these little gremlins around the ground and they're grabbing your clothes. So you're stubbing it and you're double and triple hitting it. Jesus, T.C. I'm sorry, you've been going through that. I didn't know that, man. Like, we'll take that off. First is, like, I jump at the opportunity to go up and play off of rye grass and bank grass up north.

It's Midwest in the summer. It's so nice. Wow, this is a lot more comfortable up here. I swear the ball flies straight or coming off that stuff too. I don't know how to explain that. It's psychological, right? The grains do get super slick though. Yeah, the bent stuff is in the summers.

But even that, I feel like it's easier because you know exactly how it's gonna break and it shortens your stroke a little bit too. And you don't have to worry about like a down grain, down wind putt, just will never stop. It's like an ice skating rink. But yeah, it just, it takes a certain level of confidence and it adds another layer. So like if you're long left at 13, everyone, I heard a lot of people saying that, why don't they just put it up that hill? It's like, all right, I was saying that. They're definitely not showing how that, you

would not look at that slope and be like, oh, let's put up this. Because then you can't stop it on the green. You can't stop it up there. And when you're putting up the hill on the Bermuda too, it's gonna eat the shit out of your bowl. Like it's just gonna be dead into the ground. The gremlins, the gremlins are gonna eat it. I was blown away at how hard guys had to bump seven irons

and pitching wedges into that. It would hop up and it really grabbed them. Where they had to hit the shit out of them. Which you get it packed. That shot is a great point. Cause that shot is such a sign of skill. Yes. Being able to hit that spot right on the top,

I've Brooks had one yesterday, I think on the back of 13, and it's like, God, he hit the perfect spot. But I think somebody else missed that spot, and it skids in the front bunker. So, but they, yeah, hamster damn take, they didn't really show a good angle to show how hard that shot is to hit.

And I'm sure they'll come back and say, well, you know what, we didn't find out until two months prior that we were hosting an event there and all that. And you know, at some point, it's like, I don't think you're going and scouting out certain places that far in advance, or like, do less, have less towers, have more hand.

That's what I was gonna say, if that's the case. Like, it should actually require less scouting to show the ground level, you know. Yeah, if that was the case, then it's like, you guys should have been running and gunning more, which is kind of what we're asking for. It's just like, Ben and I went to the concession and literally documented these slopes.

Like, it's not that difficult. Like, it's really not. Whether, whether Sony, you know, A6 or A9 handicap. It's not that difficult. And that, I know live TV is different and all that, I'm sure there's a lot of reasons while they don't have handhelds and whatnot, but just like some, like, like, left of seven,

that back left pin that they had Saturday on seven was so insanely hard and I feel like we barely even saw it. Like the viewers of them didn't get to appreciate some of the amazing shots that were played because, I don't know. So I saw a lot of people saying like, the course is too easy, is it really that hard? 18-unders winning blah, blah, blah.

I think I said this last week. It was like, the field is going to separate. There's going to be a ton of variance. The birdies are out there. If you hit good shots, you can make birdies on that golf course. And we saw that. Well, in a good counter to that is the course that hard. Look at Cam Smith.

He shoots 77 on Saturday after having it on fire the first two days. Comes back shoots, I think 66 today. So 67 to that. 67, but like establishing his, you know, his dog bonafides just, you know, licking his wounds from Saturday comes out and plays well, but that that's wait like that's not happening in another course where he was slightly off on Saturday. And it just, you know, water everywhere, lost balls, like it, you know, water everywhere, lost balls, like, it, the, errant shots are fucked, basically.

Cam had a, he missed his drive in the lake, the left on 16 on Saturday. And then just steps right back up and hits one, like 10 feet right of the lake, hits it to five feet. Makes five. Makes five, like it's nothing. And like that was, that, that to me was more impressive than anything he did in his 67.

And like seeing him place, you know, he shot 68, 66 the first two days, seeing him do that and then shoot 77. And with Cam, you really can't tell whether he's shooting 77 or 67. Like he's very even killed. And he's just like, he's just positive out there. Dustin Johnson did not shoot 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, or 76 this week.

He shot 77, 69, 69, 78. Like, this place identifies good thoughts. The greatest plerable. And that's what, like, is we kind of somewhat glanced by what Mark Howe did. Like, even with the lead he had today, nothing was guaranteed. There was like six shots out there that are like, dude, pass this test. Yeah.

This is what you have to hit it right here. Can you do it? And you did it every time. And you can kind of see it on his face a little bit on, you know, 13, 14, 15. I think, can't remember which holes, but he missed some like 12 footers, you know, just misread or whatever.

And you could tell he was like, damn, you know, he just wanted that cushion. Yes. You know, because he knew he had some big golf shots coming up. More so than a lot of guys like on another course, like they're on a cruise control. Like cool, comfy par, comfy par, no big deal. Not a single guy shot in the 60s, all four rounds.

Hmm. Wade Shasky asked, concessions great, produce unreal golf and we all want to see more PGA events. Here, is it even possible though, is the infrastructure there to support an tournament with fans? I don't claim to be an expert on knowing what you need, but it's a big ballpark. And I know it kind of weaves through some Martian stuff

back there, but you're not really confined with a lot of space. They could clear out some space for some bleachers if they wanted to. You know, you don't need to let a lot of fans in probably for it. I don't think it's a max event. I was gonna say the WGC's don't feel like spectator centric events.

They feel like you're blasting these out to all countries on TV product. Yeah, it's got a- It's got a- It almost feels like the skins came more than anything. Like big money TV matches, right? Like- If you can have an event at Cuba with fans, you can have it at concession for sure. I would-

And also it's not, you know, it doesn't look like it's close to anything, but Tampa, Bradenton is sprawled out to begin with, so I'm sure you could get fans to show up. That would be fun. But they're talking about like the bleachers end, right? Like can it support? You're talking about the PGA tour. PGA tour can get fans. They got the, they paid the fanatics to come

and make a huge year for the international world. Thank you, thank you for holding me accountable. Thank you. It was, my big takeaway was a place where I want to, like I love, I like watching the pros play there. It makes me want to play golf less when I watch that course. Interesting.

Or it's just, it just, maybe left handed. Yeah. Yeah. It just, it just looks like all the elements of golf that I despise, right? The way to protect a golf. And I know we're talking about the slopes and everything around the greens, but all the carries off the tee and all the...

A lot of penalty shots out there. All the really, really scary bunkering. Yeah. Like where there's five levels of bunkers, and it may not be that in actuality, but visually, it's just, it's crazy. I struggle with this with Jack, because I think it answers a question, right? It is a bit of a cop out the way all of his bunkers

are just deep. They're just deep, almost unnecessarily and unnaturally deep. Yeah, when I go to Scotland, I'm like, oh, these pop bunkers are so awesome. They just gobblet balls and you're trying to avoid them. And it's unnatural, but like gosh, it's a really good way of identifying talent. I really do think that.

I think this golf course is... Well, going back, you said it's an answer to a question. The question of like, how do you challenge like really skilled players? How do you get people to set up? The bunkers are true hazards in that way. And like, I know people get confused with the word shot value a lot.

Like the shot value out here is enormous. Basically. And what I mean by that And like, I know people get confused with the word shot value a lot. Like the shot value out here is enormous. Basically. And what I mean by that is like, you hit the good shots, you make a birdie. If you're marginally off, you're making bogey or double. Like the value in a great shot is enormous at the concession, which I love seeing that kind of golf. I hate a lot of PGA tour courses. A marginal shot will mean you just make par.

Yeah. Like you just make par and that is not the case. Or you go out of flag and you just pull it off. No, there's no punishment for it. It's like, yeah. Cool. Like you should be making bogie your double for that and you're coming out with, you're coming away with an easy, easy up and down.

Yeah. I think my issue with Jack on a course like this is just the aesthetics, right? Of, you know, like he uses a bunch of contractors and it just doesn't really have a, like that little tongue that Moorakawa was on at the very end there where it's like, what is that, right? Like what's, you know, it's just,

it just looks so fucking unnatural. It's not a 10 out of 10, but like it works for me. If I just, the way it's, I think it works strategically. What I'm saying is like aesthetically, it's like, oh fuck this. Yeah. I think both points are fair. Yeah. All right, I love this one from OG Cho.

Why doesn't pain stewards concession among government at Brookline get the same publicity? Such a slap in the face to pain in his legacy. It should, a hundred percent. That you're absolutely right, Joe. It was like an eight footer, wasn't it? Yeah. It was like obnoxiously long putt that pain's like,

no, no, like we've already won. I don't care about this match. Guys, I'm gonna plead ignorance here. Just like most of the tort pros did this week. How come? When asked about the concession, I don't recall this one. 99 at Brookline, Monty's just getting berated.

Like his dad had to go back inside, like would not follow the match anymore. And after Justin Leonard made the putt and Oath Abel had missed and the US had clinched, Monty and Payne Stewart keep going in their match. And Monty, which never makes sense to me, right? It doesn't, but it happens in every ride of a cup. And Monty's Ryder Cup singles record

is the thing he like prizes the most. And eventually it got to the point, something happened on the final green. I don't know exactly what it was. And Monty's getting ready to play his putt and Payne Stewart just like just pick it up. You're good, like it's over. I forget if they have the match I think or whatever it was,

but way longer put than Jack can see to Dittoni Jacqueline. I mean, it was a very different situation. That's the whole thing with Jack, where should this golf course exist? Yeah, there was a market for it in a development or a... An owner, he's more an owner, yeah. An owner wanted to build this golf course and sure enough. Yeah, absolutely. But do we need to call it the concession and have this whole hand job for these?

You know, at what point is celebrating your great sportsmanship? Like also really bad sports. On sports. Yeah, exactly like it's like, that's a really good point. And then at the opening of the course, this is a couple people. Jack makes this huge deal of it and he says, all right, you know, I gave you a big concession Tony. I want you to make a concession.

I want you to play the blue teas today. I'm going to play the back teas and he just eviscerated in my guess that day. Jack went further back and beat. Yeah. Like what a dick. And like, you know, and Jacqueline was like, it's so outside the spirit of what the place was supposed to be about and Jack couldn't get out

of his own way. T.C. That, I mean, that story, that's a tough scene for Jack, if it's like he's a bad businessman, he's arrogant, he's always talking about himself, anytime he, like, we got haunted in two weeks. Listen to Jack, talk about himself and his ice cream and barbron, all this stuff for two hours in the booth.

Barbara, they're talking about your birthday on the air. I can't believe you didn't call it. I thought for sure we were gonna see him at some point, but yeah, the whole, I mean, just jamming the concession thing down in a throat, I think was easy, easy to roll your eyes at, but that shouldn't come as a surprise. All right, on to the LPGA tour.

Nelly Corta wins the game bridge LPGA at Lake Nona. She became the Corda sisters become the first pair of sisters to win back-to-back events since Anika and Charlotta Sorenstam in 2000. First I'm hearing this, I don't remember that. First of all, I didn't think that that was a thing that sisters would win back-to-back events on the LPGA tour.

That's truly magnificent. But big step for Nelly, that's a big win. That's a really good field this week. Is there first win on US soil, right? A fourth win or fifth win now? That's a fourth win. She's only 22. If we're talking about things,

all right, Kalamokawa has four wins. Four wins. And he's 24. Nelly's 22. And Grant, she's been out there for longer, but. That 22 is older on the LPGA tour than... Correct. 24 is, I would say, just in...

This was her, this was her fourth win. Yeah, she won the, she won two Taiwan Swinging Scurts Championships, the Women's Australian Open, and then this one. I was out there for a couple days this week, and it remains one of a few golf swings that I will just like stop what I'm doing to watch. Like I think it is the model golf swing for somebody that wants to hit the ball better.

Like that's how you want to hit it. And just watching her hit the same cut three wood or five wood, whatever it was on the range, like on repeat, it was just, it was relentless and it was, it was jaw, not jaw-dropping, but it was truly awe inspiring. She's got the, like, ladies version of Rory swing, I think, long, rhythmic, effortless, totally free. I, let's her hands go. One of the few people on the planet,

other than kids that let their hands go. I think, yeah, I mean, she was fourth in the world, heading into this week. I don't know what this will do for her in terms of ranking, but now what it's start to the season for those two women. How was Lake Nona? Lake Nona is pure. It is maybe taking over the overseas capital of the world

from TPC sawgrass. It is overseed everywhere. It, I mean, it's a FOSS. I mean, it's exactly what you would expect it to be, I think, but it was in literally perfect condition, I would say, and the women were just absolutely raving about it. I mean, that's a premier, premier golf course to play on the LPJ tour, and they were stoked to be there.

And it's kind of a cool, I mean, obviously, like, extremely, extremely wealthy environment, but like it's kind of a cool, I mean, obviously like extremely, extremely wealthy environment, but like a weird kind of European vibe to the neighborhood and kind of friendly feel to it. And I followed 36 holes with, we're working on a video about with Madeline Sagsstrom that there'll be more about here in the future. But Madeline was paired with Monica Sorenstein for the first two days. And like the whole, not the whole neighborhood, but like all of Monicaika's friends were out, the following her and cheering her on.

It was kind of like a, I mean, they probably, I don't know, they know her as probably the neighbor more than they do the golfer. I mean, she hasn't played a professional golfer for 13 years. And it was kind of a cool vibe of just like her friends. She's in there talking to her friends in between shots that could just a real local vibe to it more than it was

like a pressure packed tournament. And I don't know, it was cool to see. It's cool to see like legitimately great, legitimate greatness. And then the last time we talked about Anaconda Pada was under various different circumstances and not to ignore that completely but if we can't ignore that for a second it is like watching her play golf without very clearly not having near the same strength that she had in the past, not the same driving distance like she's now Madeline's hidden at 60 yards past her. She's 50 years old and just watching her like hit

just like almost head high wedges at pins and having Madeline who's brought up top 50 players in the world like stop her after they're on like teach me your wedges. Like I need to learn how to hit them like that. And watching her hit range shots, repeatable, repeatable, repeatable, repeatable wedge action.

It was super cool to see. She chipped in on her 35th hole and then parted the last hole to make the cut on the number and it was pretty cool to see. Power rank, Ioworth and Lake Nona for me. That's interesting. I think Lake Nona might be a little more interesting. It's close.

It's a very close call. They're pretty inseparable, but 1A1B I think. I haven't got to play like Nona, but. Shout out to the Tattestock group. Yeah. I know you're a big fan. Big fan. Sal Polter's house.

It's, yeah. Sal Hendrick's sense it was out there. Practically. He see Polter's cars. I did not see Polter's cars. He was down in Puerto Rico actually. So, he had the Ferrari's in the car. He'd be great if he was just a revenue engine.

Also worth noting, our friends at Calaway, 33 epic drivers were in play this week on the LPGA tour. They were the undisputed equipment leader at the first full field LPGA event of 2021. 33 of the new epic drivers in play making it the number one model in the field by far. There were more epic drivers at the event than there were total drivers for any other brand.

The number one fairway would, number one iron at the event, and Odyssey has more putters in play than the number two and three brands combined. They're dominating on the LPG. How about that? You like your new epic flash three would, I think. I did. I was hitting it, went to the range with TC and epic speed.

Epic speed three would. I'll tear you. That's like saying they're chasing the money on the PTA tour, but it's really about FedEx Cup points. Come on. No, I felt like I have a tough time with three woods. It's kind of a two-way miss, Spinny Ball, but I felt like I could really,

I almost let my hands go a little bit with this one. It feels scary. Yeah, it feels really good. So. We did get a question from LSWeb 86. Any word for the awful parentheses lack of coverage, the LPGA received this week? Yeah, you know, we're taking it up with a big flask.

I'm thinking at time in the resorts and your aunt Molly. It, I wonder, this week maybe question like, why was NBC, why do they need to have three events in the same weekend? Like, how did that happen? We have Puerto Rico, we have WGC, and we have Game Bridge. We have a time of the year where you can't be on different, parts of the daylight, windows, and whatnot

to kind of squeeze it in. So you can only watch the golf channel stuff, streaming, if you're streaming online, had some words from some Canadians and Europeans that were unable to watch it and whatnot, a bit frustrating. It just sucks when you have that good of a leaderboard. I know.

And you can't watch the tournament live. And that's just where I just wonder about LPGA coverage of like, how do you differentiate this to make it a priority for people to watch? And like having it streaming online while, you know, Yeah, I don't understand like with ESPN plus taking over next year, like it's just seems like a easy win to To have the street like why wouldn't you be streaming it? They're they're probably gonna be looking for content, right?

Like you pay all are streaming it But it was like asking people to stream it while other PJ tour golf is on is very difficult difficult. And I assume the replay is on tonight, but you could not turn your TV on and watch the live golf today, which is frustrating for a tour that's been off for a month now and come back. And that's not good business either. It's not profitable to stream a tournament,

like get it on live TV, because that's how you're gonna pay for having a crew out there and everything. To me, it feels like the... And I know this is beggars can't be choosers kind of thing. With the LPGA, they've made unbelievable strides the last few years as far as their schedule goes. And the 2021 TV schedule is the most robust they've ever had. Yeah, yeah.

But this is not indicative of things to come. No, and it seems like they're making significant progress. But as soon as the PGA tour leaves the West Coast, kind of feels like OPGA tour needs to get there ASAP, right? Because they've got tournaments, they've got a tournament at Aviarra in Carlsbad. They've got the A&A out in Palm Springs.

They've got one in Hawaii in April. They've got one at, I believe, Wilshire out in late April. And then they've got another one in, at Lake Merced, in early to mid-June. So kind of like, yo, why don't you stack these events right after, you know, while the weather's still shitty, people will, people will watch Primetime Golf on the East Coast

and then in many of your major markets here. That goes back to what Mike Wands said. They're better off like catching people flipping between channels to the LPGA Tour than being in their own window, which was surprising to me. I didn't like hearing that. I would have rather thought that, I would have thought that they would have do better. I'd say that definitely rings true when there's one PGA Tour event. It's just a tough time when there's an opposite field event. Yeah. The LPGA would be, I guess, smart to avoid those weeks, you know.

Well, especially if you're gonna, like you said, come back after four weeks off on that weekend, that's tough. Which is, I mean, who knows when like, no one was available and you just, sure. I'm sure it's just a, It's never a guest. Listen, it's never a guest. And we also don't know how TV contracts work.

So we have to keep that in mind. Got to think. And we don't know what hard cameras are. So we have to keep that in mind as well. Always think of the contracts. Want to do a quick BMW, a shout out to our global partner, BMW, who's also a global partner of the Ryder Cup. First of all, I want to say how awesome it is.

They just basically seed their ad time and just tell us to talk about the Ryder Cup, which is damn awesome. And we're going to do that right now. I was hoping the rankings would be updated by the time we got here, but doesn't look like they are. Scottie Sheffler was 21st in the rankings coming into today. I'm assuming you got a huge boost from that is Scottie. Is Scottie Sheffler a Ryder Cup or this year?

Yes. I mean, he's long. He, like, even if he's not a, all right, sorry, refresh me on how many captains picks the US has. Six captains picks, six automatic qualifiers. So if you're, if you're Steve Stricker and you don't pick Scotty Shuffler,

like you're fucking dead to me, that's not even remotely in question. I mean, he's, he's long, he's an unbelievable iron player. I don't know. Okay, so, but he has, he hasn't won yet, right? Yeah. So let's say he has he doesn't win by the time he does he continues to play really well.

Doesn't win a tournament between now and the you know end of July. He was in a little early season funk. He missed the cut at Tori and he missed the cut in the desert. He had T7 at Phoenix, T20 at the Genesis, and then great week this week. He was second at the Tor championship as far as the gross scores. And then T4 at the Northern Trust, T4 at the PGH Championship. Like he's big boy golf courses.

And to the hasn't won a tournament thing, I just, I've never seen the correlation between great writer cup and ability to close out tournaments. If you are constantly beating a lot of the top players in the game, that makes you a great match player. I don't need you to beat all of them. Sure.

I think that's just, you know, but wouldn't the tie, like there's got to be some guys ahead of them, somebody let's, let's say Patrick Reed, ahead of them. Somebody, let's say Patrick Reed ahead of them. If it came down to those two right now, I'd probably take Patrick Reed. I would not for all the awful reasons. Well, I know the off course reasons, but I'm just saying like a guy with more experience,

Ryder Cup experience, Patrick Reed's probably a bad example, just because of the personality, but. Look at Fino, right? Fino, he's won one time. He's an absolute dog in France. I just think as a captain, I don't know, if you're making the safe pick, you're probably picking a guy that's one over a guy that has not won. I'm just logically making the argument that has been used. I think it's very flawed logic. Okay. I think

I'm here for that argument, but I would say, does he make the right, my point is does Steve Stricker pick him for the Ryder Cup team if it was today? I'd say no, I definitely don't think he does. That's interesting. I don't think he does. Like you guys are making a good argument that he could and it would be a good pick, but I don't think that he's gonna think

that far outside the box. All right, so go down the current ranks. So I'm assuming that Mara Cal is going to jump into the top six. So the top six is going to be DJ, Bryson, Brooks, Zander, and Morakawa. Okay. Now that leaves out Finau, Reed, Berger, Web Simpson, Patrick Cantley, Harris English, Wolf, Homa, Kisner, Woodland, Palmer, Na, Kochrack, Speed, Speed Sheffler Horshaw St. Roman. I mean, there's a lot of names on that list to jump out of me before smoke and Scotty

and I like his game. I just think that there's a lot of, which is why I read that on my team. That's okay. So that's fair. Re was a bad, that was a bad example. No, I think he will get picked, but like why with all of that talent, why would you introduce a huge fair? And why with all that talent and all those wins and dudes that are winning now and playing

really well, like I like burger, would you go with a guy that hasn't wanted who's young and who like, it just feels like, I don't know, feels like an unnecessary risk in a way for a captain to do that. That's the logical argument. I'm excited this year because it year because there's not the veteran fluff at the top. The world-class young players have truly superseded the cooters.

I mean, we're not going to have Phil on this team. And we're not going to have Tiger on this team. And Ricky. And I take a miracle to have Ricky on this team. So it opens up for a live interest, going to be no cooters by all measures. I guess my question for you is, do you take, if you came down to Captain's Pick, do you take web?

That I was just gonna bring that up. At Wistling Straits, because it's not 100%. I think I take web for shirt, even though, you know, we used to shit out of them for, no, begging us to wait out of the team. Wev, I'm full, I was telling TC, I'm full circle on Web Simpson. He's a way better player now than he was 24 years.

He is, he is. And like, God, I mean, I was just venue dependent though. It is. That's why I'm asking this question. I don't mean to take it away from Web. Nope, Web is Web transcends venues, I think. He's so solid that like, he's not a short show.

I mean, I know the numbers don't say he hits it very far, but like that dude competes on so many different kinds of golf courses. There's certain ones that he's been. He's a dog. He's a total dog. You know what, Webb, I- Webb can play on my team any day. I was thinking about it.

Webb strikes me as a dad. Definitely, you know, mega dad energy, but a dad that grinded is like a traveling consultant for years and years, finally opened up his own shop and just decided like, man, this new found freedom working for myself. I'm gonna grow this harsh goatee.

I've always wanted to grow this, but he's still got like the sunscreen. Like, you can't take the dad out of him, but you know, like he, I just gotta get a kick out of Web and he just, he's, I don't know, I just have come to fully respect his game and I just wanted to give him a shout out for that. I'll tell you who I think is gonna make

a sneaky Ryder Cup run, Bubba. I think Bubba's gonna be the 26th right now. It's a great venue for him. He seems to be heating up a little bit. Again, a variable that I don't need on this day. Yeah, there's so many. There's just so many names that jump out at me that you just read off that it's like,

like, yeah, I don't need Bubba. You know, if I'm stricker, I'm like, I don't need that. That's not necessary. All right, if I'm stricker, I'm like, I don't, I don't need that. That's not, that's not necessary. All right. As the, as the euro guy, you know, we got hat and Fleetwood, Rob McElroy, Perez and we, Veeceberger, top six on the European point side. Rob, Hatten, McElroy, Fleetwood, Perez. Casey Fitzpatrick, Hoveland. You're up every time. I feel like they have really eight really good players and they shape up really really

well. It's going to be interesting though. Like you've got Rose on the outside looking in. You've got Big Bob McIntyre who was one of my captains picks when we did our draft, you know, back during coast body. Here we go. Yeah. Yeah.

You got Sergio, Matthias Schwab. Peters is someone you like you want him to play well because that should be a perfect golf course for him. Stenson too. They got a lot of options there as well. And the betting line is pretty close. The US is favored but not by a lot and I can't wait. Almost I kind of have been forgetting

that the Ryder Cup is really coming back in a big way this year. I want there to be really shitty weather. I'm excited man. I never been. I can't wait to get up there. That's going to be awesome man. The 2016 rider cup is the best sport in a bit of every tent.

And I haven't spent a lot of time in the upper Midwest either. And I'm psyched to be in the summer. People that appreciate the summer weather. Well it's flummer for you. The Ryder Cup's late September. Well, okay that's fair. Sorry. I jumped the gun on that. Shout out to BMW for being a great partner and for being a partner of the Ryder Cup. Anything else from Puerto Rico? We kind of talked a little bit of Puerto Rico but anything else to add from that. Just branding grace man man. That was really, really cool to see. Nails down the stretch. Yeah, Grace and Murray, whole hook on 18.

Hate that. Brayden and Wu kind of forgotten man there at the end, but good week for him. He seems to be putting some stuff together. Gosh, who else? We Rafael Campos, hometown guy, great. I think he had a top five finish there was kind of sniffing around.

And yeah, overall, I don't know, just Puerto Rico, wait, man. I wish I could have bet on it like crazy. You guys, you guys hemmed me in with the Martin Trainor Act. Martin Trainor had a tough, you know, that'd be a tournament I'd like to go to. Really? Yeah. I've never been a Puerto Rico, number one. And we, I feel like with the curse of the Puerto Rico open and we talk about it a lot.

And it just feels like watching the, you know, that's some fans out there. It looks like a jolly event down there. And that, like to check it out. It's so many sponsor exemptions. They couldn't even, like, they couldn't feel the field with like regular, one other thing I'd say, I'd shock me

that Brandon Grace is only 32. Like I'm 31. He seems so much older than me, but he's not. He just feels like he's been around forever. I almost put him in the, I don't know. Definitely not like Westwood category, but like older. It just feels older to me.

What about, does that, do you guys agree with that? I would agree with that. Yeah. I want to shout out Jason, the bone zone. He made the cut this week. That was great to see. He was, does that, do you guys agree with that? I would agree with that. Yeah. I want to shout out Jason, the bone zone. He made the cut this week. That was great to see. He was T14 at one point on Friday. Yeah, great.

I mean, Grace, like, playing, not that sound like a dick, but like playing in a vent like Puerto Rico, feels like it's kind of below him, right? Right. He's that down. He's a world-class ball striker. Struggles with his putting from time to time, but one of those guys you expect to be playing in a WGC.

Like he's the quintessential guy that's not manipulating in a WGC, deserves to be there, steps up, plays there, where I know you were, you were, you were, you were, we didn't talk manipulation this week at all, but Brendan Porath does this for every WGC, takes a screenshot at the bottom of the leaderboard and just the United Nations that is,

the bottom of that leaderboard. just the United Nations that is the bottom of that leaderboard. This golf course exposed some people. I mean, I said that DJ finished T-54, but yeah, the bottom of this leaderboard, there was five of us guys in this field I'd never heard of before. Which, yeah, that's kind of jarring. I mean, T.C., have you heard of Danny Van Toner?

No, that was gonna be the number one name of my list. Danny Van Toner, nothing is the South Africans at all. Danny Vontana and JC Richie had never heard of us guys. You know, sources are definitely telling us that Harris English is no longer flushing the ball. Tough, tough week for the big guy. 80 today for you. He, he, he book ended at 78, 69, 71, 80. That's tough. He'd that for Randy. Yeah. Had you heard of Trevor Sims B? That's a new one. He had an ace this week, right? He did have an ace and his that's just his first Like pro tournament wasn't it? No, there's PJ Tori. Okay. Sorry. No, that's stupid The

The rest of my mouth. I'm gonna be in flame for that the British scribes are gonna be all I know come at me Damn it But notice how NBC catches an early round weekend ace that happens and has a video of it. And when it happens, what, who did it? Scott Harrington did it, CBS week, they don't get the cameras out early enough and they don't even reference it on the broadcast.

I think some of that might have to do too if there's only what, 70 guys in the field this week. Yeah. And there's not two waves, there's only one. But on the weekend, there's only 70 guys out there. this week. Yeah. And there's not two waves. There's only one. But on the weekend, there's only 70 guys out there. That's true, so. God, I'm, you know what, I'm trying to go to war

for my guys at CVS now, man. Listen, they've responded to everything else. Like get some cameras out there early on weekends. I know I don't know what a hard camera is, but I'm trying to think of who else I hadn't heard of on this Brad Kennedy. Hadn't heard of you yet. Haven't heard of you, bud.

You got a work harder. We did have a 33 shot gap between first place and last place. You're giving some dudes some bulletin board material. You're taking it. Come on. I haven't heard of you. Sorry. That's what the money's for.

And you got $32,000 to show up this week. Probably this is. Probably this sims be though. Finish the head of Xander, Leesh, Kizner, Woodland, Mackenzie Hughes. I would like, that's a good point. Leesh, Kisner, Woodland, McKenzie Hughes. I would like, that's a good point. I think there should be, even though it's a no-cut event, it should be the last place guy does not get any money.

Just like, you can't come and it can't be everybody gets a trophy, right? There has to be some downside. And I think that might help. That might definitely generate some of the like, no juice, right? Where it's like, oh, like, you know, there's just no downside out there.

Like they're gonna get paid. Yeah, they wanna make more money. They wanna win, you know. But yeah, just make it so that like at least symbolically, like yeah, if you come in last, you're not gonna get paid. I feel like this week had juice. I know more cow one by three, like if he's not in the equation,

like the three guys there tied for second. Like I think more cow I made it a little sleep becoming on the stretch, but that that felt juicy to me. This has been a great. But what would you say like most of the time some of the WGC's have a tough time with with juice because they feel like they are this like someone of what we criticize the players for trying to become the fifth major like like this event. Like they're they're they're buying suspense. Like the money is so big that that is what is going to generate the stakes.

But this event delivers. I agree with you. Matchplayed you little sleepy. I mean, now what's St. Jude, what was Firestone? That was sleepy to me and then HSBC. Yeah, I agree with you that I enjoyed watching this tourney, but I'm just saying WGC's, like we're talking about them getting an identity. Yeah. It's like, I think there's just I enjoyed watching this tourney, but I'm just saying WGC's, like we're talking about them getting an identity.

Yeah. It's like, I think there's just, when there's no downside, there's no cut or anything, it's just like a little, I don't know, maybe, maybe I'm overthinking that, but. This, the Mexico one and this spot in the calendar, I think works really well, but when it's like mid-summer and you go to Memphis

and you got a Ohio and for that WGC, I mean, that means like nothing to me. I just don't, I don't get up for it. But this one, I do think, I mean, there's guys in there that don't play the US tour often, if at all, Thomas D. Tree, Vinwooli, Bizzadenhote, Chan Kim, Van Royen. Like, those guys, like T28, T32, T35, like, those are big checks for them, right?

That's an $80,000 check for, sure, finishing way down the board, but, you know, but, but playing against some, some top-class competitors, granted, yeah, there's plenty of guys on the bottom part of the leaderboard. I do think it's worth noting though that a lot of these guys from the rest of the world

fly in and are playing on a surface that, they don't play on a lot. Like there's, there's some factors contributing to why that they don't play on a lot. There's some factors contributing to why these guys don't tend to play well. I think about having some type of downside, like where, like let's just use last place doesn't get paid as an example. What players are going to sign off of this? I know, but it wouldn't be like relegation in the premier league of the battle for the Formula One, of like dude, I could, you know,

it would create trauma and like, oh, and so and so made a 20 footer to make 40,000 dollars a week, congrats to him. I just think it would be a nice little wrinkle. But it's about the FedEx Cup points, come on. Of course, of course. It's the International Federation of PGA tours. What's this on?

Which we learned today. The international folks aren't getting a lot of bang for their buck. Trying to see where the cutoff for FedEx Cup points for this event is. I think everybody gets a mix of like a bottom 10 to 12. Hair, English, finished 66, and got four points for it. Which four points is like you would have to win... Or you would have to finish top five and like... Two or three WebTor events. Do you get four points? Yeah, yeah. I mean, look at, you don't get

FedEx cup points for web. Oh, sorry. I was thinking of owe WGR points. Yeah, this is a give. There's, I do think I need to point out there's manipulation going on with OWGR. There is manipulation, but also the PGA, the Puerto Rico was a manipulation sweep takes this week because there's a strength field of 28 and 24 points went to the winner. Much like European tour events that I call out often, I'm going to call it out when it happens with a PGA tour, but it's because all the manipulators were at the WGC. But yeah, downstream of the facts of the primary manipulation.

That was exact. That's very, very well said. So anything else before we wrap it. That's it. I think the weather's, you know, golf weather around here in Florida. You know, it's been great. It's been great. I'm ready to get back. Don't make us more punchable than we already are. Right. Yeah. We're getting some people up north. Oh my god. T.C. Where's some lotion, bro? I was out there for an hour. Mixing some alo dog, come on. That's nice.

You've been here right four years ago. T.C. and I went to the pool with Fredy and Gus. And you wore some shoes. I would have put you in the no sunscreen category but I thought older brother T.C. would have been in a little bit. I think I just did a better job of staying under the umbrella. I didn't put sunscreen on, but I was aware

that, hey, listen, it'll sneak up on you. So, but yeah, let's excited. So what's next week? I thought you said, how did Honda was next week? No, we got Bay Hill, buddy. Bay Hill's next week. All right, cool. You wanna model your, what was the commercial for Bay Hill

is the guy that set the example for us, both on and off the course, Arnold Palmer. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I Yeah, I mean, I kind of got roasted for a lot of the same things that Arnie was doing, but that's a different conversation. Different times, different times. Different times. And it's the Arnold Palmer Bay Hill

invitation presented by Mastercard. And group of solitists. So, well, I hope shout out to Bay Hill last year, thoroughly enjoyed watching Bay Hill last year and how difficult the course played. I hope it set up similar this year. That was that mostly thanks to a ton of wind and cold. So I'm hoping it come back.

Do you think that they tell you what the players to play? Do you think that they stepped off the gas pedal too much? A concession? I don't. I think any golf, I think the pins were a little soft today. They weren't as treacherous as they were Saturday, but I think they thought they're going to get a little more win than they got today. You know, any par 72 golf course with no win, Torprow's are going to shoot very low numbers. It's just, that's just a fact. The par doesn't really

matter to them. They're getting to the par 5s and 2. And so I think they could have had a little more teeth with the, with some of the pins, but like I promise you, every single guy walking off that golf course would tell you it's a very difficult golf course. So I think it, they flirted, it was the right kind of punishment. It was, you can make birdie if you go at these pins, which encourage people to go at them

and it gave us the double bogeys. Otherwise, if you set up any tougher than that, you're gonna end up with a lot of really safe boring shots and a lot of two putt pars, which I don't think is great competition. So, Bay Hill forecast, it's going to dip down into the low 70s, high 60s. Looking at the long term forecast here, for the weekend, actually some showers, 10 to 15 mile an hour winds all week.

So there's some hope for some kind of some kind of ditties there. I also want to give a shout out to I hope everybody plays well in the concession. Remember guess. That's right. Yeah, we're thinking of everyone down there. And can't wait to see what happens out there. The green screen is really spicy this weekend. So somebody somebody let us know what they're stimpin' at on Thursday. Oh, last thing. So somebody told me I was doing a little digging on the Gary player, the King in the Bear in the Black Knight, in the slammer in the Squire commercial. That clip was recorded like 16, 17, 18 years ago. Oh my God.

They got more mileage out of that TV spot than anything in the history of television. And any one of these days they're going to book that first trip. You're going to get that first sale. So, all right, thanks everybody for tuning in. Have a great week and we will see you back here next week. Cheers. All right. Get a right club.

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