No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 409: Players Championship Recap

Episode Date: March 15, 2021

We recap JT's triumph at TPC Sawgrass, his incredible weekend ball striking display, Westwood's run, the incredible top/shank/queef sequence, Rory's comments, Bryson, course setup, every shot live, Brian Harman, and everything else from Players week.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah. That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. It was originally the DJ Pied Memorial and then it was the DJ Pied and Sully Memorial. Now it's the DJ Pied and Sully and Sully and Big Randy as we both picked Justin Thomas, not to win. Big Randy's here.

On your left, yeah, thank you. Good to be here. I thought that was just a major's thing. But you always add in extra people. So we, like just a taunt, you're like, oh, that guy's not gonna win, that guy's not gonna win. We even added an extra event in this year, and you got tripped up.

TCS here, he's gonna have some takes I have a feeling today. I just like the glot, I said Rory's not gonna win. Rory certainly did that. But the goal is to fly as close to the sun as possible. Or pick the most obvious person, right? You know, it's named after DJ Pai, who is also here. Hey, good to see you guys. I can't help but think maybe Sali is a little whiff of the World Golf Hall of Fame with Sali claiming

this one as a major. I'm going to win away from like the from champion's tour eligibility. Yeah, exactly. And the Hall of Fame here. Congratulations, Sali. Huge week for you. EB3 is asking if we had an insider info on our Jt not winning and uh... uh... yes it turns out we did not uh... one of our proud partners of is of course cullaway golf we had a few names towards the top of leader board this week great sunday for tailored goodch and okay finish for john romp if you count three hundred thirty nine thousand dollars or whatever that was as okay rom recently switched to the new epic speed fairway woods noting he likes how

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He shouldn't say next year's ads because they're going to start next week. Sure. That's a great question. We were kind of joking about this a little bit when it came on. I know JT's awesome, the super fun to watch. Great W. We'll get into unpacking a lot of why that was, but I think I was definitely rooting for Westwood or Bryson, just for entertainment purposes.

And so the JT win felt, I don't want to say a little flat, but it was kind of my third, you know, it was my third preference of those three guys. And I think part of it was, you know, solid, you said when we sat down, there wasn't like a really great, quote unquote, defining moment. I guess it's got to be the eagle on 11, right? Well, I was going say, it's like, it was literally, nothing stuck out because there's a little round full of almost perfection.

Yeah. The ball striking perfection. Every hole, he hit 17 of 18 greens. The only one he didn't hit was 18, which he was, You got crowned on the fairway on 18. Three inch, no, he had cut spin on that thing. That was never in doubt.

You kidding me? I really don't know how that ball stayed out of the water. It was a, you know, I had cut spin on that thing. That was never in doubt. You kidding me? I really don't know how that ball stayed out of the water. It was a, you know, for Westwood finishing one shot behind him, though, Westwood also had a ball bounce away. It should not have bounced. Did he got a birdie out of the 14th? I would argue that JT's defining moment was number 16 on Saturday when he made the equal there.

And I don't know, it just felt like there was a certain spark about him. You know, that kind of put an exclamation point on his third round, 64, and catapulted him into the conversation. Yeah, one over when standing on the 16th tee on Friday and wins the tournament at 14 under. It was pretty wild. That's a good way to underscore it there.

But of course, the golf course got a little easier as the week goes on, which I'm sure we'll discuss, but oh yeah, I will. I know these numbers don't, you know, without anything to compare it to. So he was second in the field in round three and stroking off the tee with 1.7 and then let it with 2.7 in round four.

2.7 stroking off the tee in one round is astronomical. That's enormous. That's price and level. And then the Shoddy hit, I guess, I don't understand these rope draw. The one on 16. 16.

Oh my God. That was absurd. Physically uncomfortable. You have that Shoddy. I think because he hits it so high with his driver, we're like, just hit one over the trees, right? Well, that's what, I know it was a little bit into the wind, but it was what, seven mile an hour wind?

Like, it's not humming. I think it's, you know, if you tried to take one over the trees, you are bringing left into play more so than like, I'm starting this way right and duck-hooking it, I know it can't go any further left than it did. And just getting a ball moving left is gonna be moving it towards the hole. Whereas like Westwood stepped up

and hit a drive, a cut drive, which I was just like, all right, you do you, man. This shot clearly calls for a draw and you're gonna hit your fail. You do you, then you got up there and you had 250 plus into it and hit it right behind the tree.

Like the dudes they were able to get it around the corner. Which, what was he trying to do there? JT had 225 and hit that was like a five wood or I don't know if he has a seven wood also, but it looked like a five wood. I think he had the five wood and it was, you know, whole high. Westwood had 252 and he's trying to smoke an iron

and get it running up there and it's like, that tree is a chemimatumble. Yeah, when it's playing fast of that, I don't know. That feels like bad shit can happen when you're trying to get that running on that green of 16. That's how it seems like people hit in the water there. I've been in that bunker multiple times. Not the brag.

That is the worst place. Death, it's all. It's the double hazard. There's a lot of raw stuff that he has to do from right there. In a bunker behind a tree, it's truly one of the worst spots he could possibly be. With a lake behind the pin and another bunker in front of you, and then it feeds off the left otherwise.

So they have to go right at it or you're going to have another chip. Semi-shanking it into that other bunker might have been the play. That was what you're saying. It was a heavy play. Kind of a comfy five after that. Possibly you're saying that was his defining moment. That could have been, unfortunately, I think that might have been Westwood's defining moment. Yeah.

16 is such a fun hold to watch. It's such a, it's a par four and a half. It's an easy hold, it's getable, but like if you want to win this tournament, you got to go take, you got to go get shots on that hole almost every day. Yeah. It's, it's, it's,

My favorite hold. It should be down behind and watch guys had driver because you see such a wide variety of, of shapes and trajectories. That was by far the most fun hold-a-watch price in this week too. You know, we had six last week. Obviously was the side show hole where Bryson's screaming his face off hitting as far as he can, but 16 was especially after watching that year after year and seeing the lines,

guys were taking, seeing the lines Bryson was taking was ignorant. It was really fun to watch. He had 191 in today, 187 in yesterday, 197 in round two and 179 in and round one. He was relishing it. Was that Friday when he played in the afternoon? And he, and he go, driver nine, driver nine. Thursday, I think. I was going to say, I've watched him Friday morning out there. He, and it,'s supposed to do that with how he played 18. Oh, he ironed off the tee every day. Why is so uncomfortable with that shot?

And not even, like, kept pulling out of the iron and spraying it to the right and the pine straw or the rough there, or really not even getting to the pine straw. Made par each day, but it just seemed like a very, very cautious approach on the team. You knew who had the longest drive on 16 this week? He only had 170 yards into the green.

I don't know. Adam Scott. Hmm. How about that? He also, I think, was last in the field in Strux getting off the tee. So I don't know how he managed that one. Yeah, he seemed like he picked up a couple there. Randy, does this win?

Does this JT winning the players do much for you? Of course. What a celebration. No, I think wider perspective, bigger narrative. I think it's an important win for him obviously. Get some closer to the whole thing. It's a title to put next to his major. From a casual fan standpoint, I mean, I thought it more exciting here, Bryce,

and winning than, you know, no offense, guy like Brian Harmon or even Lee Westwood. I don't know if I'm allowed to say that. I know he's very popular, but he just doesn't do a lot for me. He's, it's a bit of a hipster, dumb going on with Lee Westwood. And I'm very happy to be upfront about my stance here where before Finau, like Westwood has been my Finau

for 10 years, which is like, why do you guys keep picking this? He's clearly, he's gonna be in the hunt. He is so clearly not gonna win a major. It's because you're rooting for somebody to banish their demons before you're very on. And now it felt like somebody on a text right today made a Sergio comp, whereas like, oh, you know text right today made a Sergio comp where I was like,

oh, you know what? That's exactly right where it was always it was hard to like root for bitchie Sergio when he was, you know, younger. And once you got to what was that 2016, 2017, whenever he won the master's team, it was, it's like, okay, listen, man, we're through the looking glass now, we're on the other side, it's clear he's not going to go win eight of these things.

Like, yeah, come on, get one. That'll be really fun. That's the interesting thing. That's the interesting thing about Sergio is, I was very in on Sergio winning a major, and then as soon as Sergio won the major, I'm like, all right, cool. We're good. It's a fuck outta here. You're bitchy and whiny again.

Well, I think we tried to convince ourselves that Sergio was like this transformed man when he won the major, and I'm like, I'm enjoying this. Next year, does the Saudi Arabia thing? It's like, all right, you know what, we're done here. I'm moving on from this. On pack the Westwood stuff a little more. Did I miss anything there?

No, great dude. It's corny to say this, but everybody says he's like an awesome hang. He hated once pound of time in Hollywood, which we went back and forth on Twitter for a little while. No, it's one of those things with him. Like, unless I'm going to the after party or something, like I don't really want to see him win.

I, you know, I don't care. Does it not refresh you at all though that like he's got his fiancé on the bag for him. He's raking his own bunkers out there. Yeah. And he's in the last group. What do you think? That's what I said. I know, I know. That's what I didn't get either. No, I don't know.

I've never liked this golf swing. I think that's a lot of it. You don't like that. Seeing someone cover the golf ball with their irons, the way he does, just brutal. That's because you just use all hands. You don't use your sternum and I don't recognize it. I actually thought it was a good thing

that he kept hitting it out of the bunker. Like he kept hitting it into the fairway bunkers on the last stretch there. I thought it was a good thing where I was forcing him to actually cover the ball and really commit to a shot. Cause I felt out of the fairway, like the one that he missed,

missed the green just left on seven. Wedging his hand should have, I mean that needs to be in a five foot circle, right? And he missed that and then just a little bit, there were, I think there are a few cobwebs there as far as the irons go. And then, especially juxtaposed to, step up on 14 and hits that shot on 14, which was insane in the left bunker. That's he shot probably should have gone in the water too, but.

Casey Whitonberg was over there throwing a hat for him. Lee Westwood was third in Strux game putting this week. Yeah, just he is boss. I can really let him down today. He lost over two shots in Strux game T to green today, which is so wild that he his putter kept him in it today. I didn't feel like that yesterday as much because I think that the the puts that he misses. He misses them by such a wide margin.

That he's the king of the 12 foot brick that doesn't never has a chance. Yeah, and that in the past. Which didn't really show up to them. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, the only one he really missed on 17, but it was like that was a really, you could see I was having something swung.

One on 18 was nails too. That was for so much money. So much money. And it's taken away from Bryson because of it. Yeah, and I think with Lee, it's like, you know, you you ascribe it to be an almost worse putt because he missed it so badly, even though the stroke counts the same. Right? Before we move on from JT, which we may have already, but I want to ask one question. Is it can we count as in terms of like, for arguments, sake, for tie breakers

when we're comparing guys, can we count the players as a half major? Well, I was gonna say, JT. If you count the PGA as a half major. JT is major. Some PGA's are a full major, some are a half major. I would argue that JT's major at Quill Hollow was absolutely a half major.

This was a half major as well. Can you lay out who's the committee that decides which is which? Me and Randy. That's a half major as well. Can you lay out who's the committee that decides which is which? Me and Randy. Pure gut feel. You know when you see it, exactly. Which really, I don't want to take that, you know, I have it on good authority that you fell asleep during that PGA quill hall. At the event.

I don't know if I saw shot that whole weekend, but you know, the fact he, what I respect that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Quill hall, what, I respect that. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that would be cool. Hollywood just doesn't do it for me. Well, yeah. It's a major venue. That's where you filmed it with the first golf,

the only golf adjacent with that one do this, like, be honest, I mean, golf term is kind of suck, right? He's like, yeah. Yeah. We kind of moved past JT. I don't know if we really totally underscore, you know, why he won, which is that he just struck the shit out of the ball.

Like it was, you mentioned it, but it's worth saying in kind of me. It was an almost like perfect round of golf today. It was crazy, crazy, crazy good. He lost over two strokes on the green today, and shot 68 to win the tournament. We're gonna say seven parts in a row to start today, radically different than his third round,

where I think he buried the first four. And there's 37 as well after bogging five. Just four, like two out of the first four hard holes. JT's round today, first in strokes game, off the tee, first in strokes game, T to green and first in driving distance. I have a question for the group about JT. And I want to

word this carefully. I was thinking about it today and I, you know, people are gonna make a mockery of the idea of JT overcoming adversity, right? And I think that's fair when you consider, you know, like his adversity against billions of other people's adversity in the world. But I do want to ask you guys, I think adversity against billions of other people's adversity in the world. But I do want to ask you guys, I think for him, right, for JT, it's probably the most uncomfortable and adverse conditions he's gone through lately. And I am curious what that does for him, whether that

kind of renews him and focuses him on his golf, whether that plays any part in this week. But I think my bigger question is, it feels like he could perhaps be on the verge of a very big season, which I know some of you guys have called earlier this year. Prior to everything that happened. And I think, I mean, I think with JT, you need to separate out like his grandpa, who was very, very important to him. So which is there's a difference between self-inflicted adversity and real actual life adversity. And you can tell that I think that's what he and his dad were embracing about after the round and all that. And that makes total sense. And then, you know, for two Dan Hicks's quote, you know, unfortunate audio, I was picked

up by Mike's, you know, that's the other adversity, which, you know, like, yeah, he uttered a gasele, right? And that's, and I think JT's probably, he hasn't been very public about what he has or hasn't done, which, you know, I think we were all expecting him to be a little bit more like, hey, I'm, I did this, this, and this. So, you know, we'll see what happens there, but I think on some level, it did seem like JT has been down on himself for the last two months. It's hard to walk around with the same swagger. I would assume after something humiliating like that happens.

Again, self-inflicted. I think this is kind of the comparison you're somewhat after there is like the overcoming adversity thing with Patrick Reed, which I think the difference, a big difference there is like the actual showing of remorse, where like JT made a mistake and was like clearly sorry for it. And then as the mother off course, you know, adversity, the overcome, whereas Reed is doing things that are very shady with the rules of the game and then like lying to our face about it is where I think an interesting parallel

and worth discussing the differences on that, right? Because some people say you hate on Reed for all the fake overcoming adversity and you're covering for JT. I don't think that's necessarily, I think there are apples and oranges here. But I think with JT, he's been extremely down on himself. He's like, you know,

Aiman Lynch wrote a great column where there's a week about how, hey, JT, it's time to move forward, man. It's time to focus on the future, focus on the now quit dwelling on what happened. And that's, I thought that was a good thing, just for him, and this feels like, instead of that being the first question,

hey, JT, you played really well at players. That's gonna lead things off. And it feels like, instead of that being the first question, hey, JT, like you put really well players, that's going to lead things off. And it feels like to your point, Randy, like this is going to be the, like the start of, of what should have been in January, right? I think so. I mean, I think we had all been curious why he hadn't followed up the, the four mentioned PGA championship with at least another major, right? He's got every shot all the town in the world. And I'm just curious, it strikes me as you go through something, again, self-inflicted.

So I don't, I hope people don't twist it. But it does where it makes you feel terrible. I'm sure he was down on himself. And it makes me wonder, I don't know the answer, but I would think it would almost cause him like, refall in love with golf in a strange way where it's like. Or put this behind him,

like truly be able to put it behind being the top of mind thing that's happened. It's crazy to go back and read his stuff from Tuesday. It is pre-turning press conference and him talking about, you know, lacking confidence and feeling like he's lost and all his stuff from Tuesday and his pre-turned press conference and him talking about, you know, lacking confidence and feeling like he's lost and all that stuff's like, dude, you're the number three player in the world and you've won 13 times before this week and all this stuff. And I mean, it's just, I think to your point, Randy, it's like, yes, there is self-inflicted

and there's non-self-inflicted, but they all kind of mix together and then you go and you play some bad golf. And I don't know. I mean, if JT can talk about how he's lacking confidence on the golf course, it's like, well, that's probably, that probably happens to do the best of him, truly. And it's got to be a, I don't know. I mean, who can't kind of relate to that, right?

It is. Also, I think JT, like from a major's perspective, he won the last major of 2017. 2018, not a great year for him in majors, T6 at the PGA 2019 not a great year in the majors 2020 feels like a little bit of a wash. But during that time frame, which Brando was quick to point out in the live from after the fact, I mean, JT want a shitload of golf tournaments, right? So it's not like 2018, 2019, 2020 were a wash. Like he won, from the time he won the PGA until today,

he won the Dell Technologies Championship, CJ Cup, Honda, WGC Bridgestone, BMW, the CJ Cup again, Capulua in 2020, and then the WGC FedEx. A lot of... All limited fields. That's where I know. I know. Good to see you in a full field event this week.

Yeah, no, I don't know. I'm playing, I'm playing psychologists, and I realize that I don't know what he's feeling. I think it'd be a fascinating interview. If somebody were to explore these topics with him, I just think of a guy who's what, 27, 28 years old, right, has all the money he'll ever be able to spend, has a major, and I think it could be easy to just kind of

get in a rut a little bit, and then you get some shit in your life, and I'm just curious if it's like, oh God, I really do love golf. And like I just want to get back to concentrating on golf, right? And kind of brings you some clarity. Yeah. I don't know if anything clicked form or if anything changed or if maybe it was just a hot weekend this week, but certainly something to keep an eye on going forward.

What's funny, I think in the very first podcast we did, he was coming off like a T3 or something at the players and made like 500,000 bucks and I asked him, like, what's that like? Do you celebrate after making 500,000 bucks? And he was like, he was not a dick about it. He could have been. He's kind of like, yeah, I mean, to be honest, like I kind of plan on making a lot of money playing golf.

So I don't get like, tied up in that. And I don't know what his career and he's out to date, but it's fun to think. Four over 40 million, not even counting the Thanksgiving bonus. How about Jimmy's? Jimmy, they got a great shot of him in the scoring. So when you sign your card on Sundays on tour, they have like a sheet of paper taped to the table

that shows by place what the payout is. And Jimmy's getting ready, he takes a sip of water, he's getting ready to leave, he comes back and looks, just to double check what the winner gets and sees the 2.7 million. He does like the monkey meme face and walks out. Cause that's true. 70K going to go and gym.

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Let's guess if we can. Okay, Dustin. Dustin's 12 to 1. No, he's 9 to 1. Oh, no, no, no. I was gonna say plus 8 or so. Plus 5.50. Oh my god.

Really? Yeah. I might not be good at this. I feel like, no, I feel like Dustin, if anything, he's just, I don't know, he's playing well, but not too good. He's not, he's trending. He's about to start trending, I think.

Bryson, plus 1,000, Rory, plus 1,000, which Randy, you're shorting like crazy. And JT is up to plus 1000. Ram is plus 1100, Brooks plus 1200, Speed plus 1400. Geez. That's respect. I was ready to, like to,

all right, he's under the radar pick guys. It's gonna happen. He really is gonna win the master so All right Can we please talk about the sequel the most fun sequence of the day which will forever be known as the shank top-queef Which was the greatest 90 seconds of TV in 2021 was it back to back to back? It's really close if it's not don't correct me because I in my memory It's gonna live is back to back to back. I was, so I went out, grabbed a sandwich,

paused my TV, went out, got lunch, came back. And so I'm trying to watch it like on DVR. My phone just started melting with just like, what the hell is going on? Just all caps, text. What is going on? Did you see that shot? I had to skip through the holes two and three.

It was absolute just righteous, righteous. It was the greatest badness. Brennan Todd cold shanks a shot off 17. Almost hits the island. Almost hits the island. I think it crossed the island. I think he should have had to drop there. No, the island though is in the hazard.

It's is it, okay. So they need to make that part of land when we're not in the hazards. Well, when they do the, you know, obviously when there's a way to get to the island and they can, when the flower barge is out there. Yeah. Well, yeah, well, I don't even know if they switched the flowers out there.

When they connected to the intra coast, the waterway, you get a jet ski or something. Yeah, you know, you just hop on a three-seat jet and you're not there. You're tied in your tent. You're right. Take what the guys are going a big wave surfing. They gotta get towed out.

You know, when they do have the boats in there, what would be sick is if like the boats would or swim up real close to the green and deflect shots onto the green, or if it's something they don't like, use the fishing net, like Barry Bond's catching home run. When everybody's out in McCuffey's club. Exactly. They should take away the walk path in conjunction when they do bring the interco soul. I thought we had a lot of good discussion about this this week that my I think where I landed was it should be a drawbridge that I like that too that they put up when someone's hitting they put it down when someone needs to walk a

crowd somebody on and a man homage to the mode at the global home of course somebody said on Twitter that they should make it a lazy Susan green like that's around that that be actually really cool that they should make it a lazy Susan. With a green, like, the green sands around. That'd be actually really cool. I do think on the island green, they need to shave that little strip of rough, or, you know, first cut. I got a lot of messages about that.

Shave that shit. I don't think I agree because there is no way to, it's not the same as the travelers example that everyone wanted to, like there's nowhere to hide there, right? There's no, but it's all, it's all easier when you talk about all week. These guys are about 17.

And they go to bed at night. He's reading from the script. These guys, man, these guys are, how about a compromise? They're on 14, and they're just, they're just thinking about 17. If we're not willing to shave, this is actually courtesy of Neil.

Neil's not on the pod tonight, so I don't wanna steal his credit, but instead of that being a yellow circle, that in circle 17, a yellow line, make it a white line. So anything that just gets past that white line, there's like six inches between that and the water. Is that about? Retie, Retie.

Retie. You can listen. You could really just paint the bullhead. I thought we were talking about the shank top, how do we get here? Retie's better than the bullhead. We're saying it could have been so much worse. No, because of those bulls that now get saved

by the last inch of that taller grass. So it's like other out of bounds. It's like when you lose your ball in the hatch, but you find it, so you keep playing it. Exactly. Anybody that goes to the drop zone, anyway, is a psychopath. On those first two days, they Exactly. Anybody that goes to the drop zone anyway is a psychopath. On those first two days, they were.

Yeah. Day one. Day one was the worst. Day four, I feel like, I would even say day three. There's no reason to go to the drop zone on day three. I think there is. I'll just get the backstop behind me. The shot was.

The shot was. We had a comfy number. Yeah, I disagree on that one. Yeah, I don't know. Respectfully, of course. Can we get to the Bryson top? That's really what I'm here to talk about. Is there anything else to talk about with the shank?

That was glorious. We've been waiting for that for years and years and years. Brandon Todd laughed about it, so I don't feel bad laughing about it. I feel like Brandon Todd and Webb are pretty similar dudes. Yeah. Both kind of nondescript Southern guys, you know, and yeah, it was glorious.

I want to give the biggest kudos to NBC for completely leaning, leaning into that. Yes. Showing the tracer, showing just replays. I mean, that was in years past. In years past. In years past that would have been the, the forest gump, you know, the army captain ripping the, ripping the wires out of the wall.

So it's a forest gump speech can't be heard. It only cost Brennan taught about 50K. So I don't feel that bad either. I mean, a little bit, but that's a lot of money. But what was the worst shot of the sequence? For Bryson? The Bryson top. Bryson, oh, yeah, no of the shank top. Oh, yeah, quiff. For sure, the Bryson shanks happen. Some on the toriot. You don't see tops off the tee. And there was a shank I may even one directly, but there was a shank. I may

even wasn't directly, but there was a sneaky little quif Bryson hit with his forearm. That was off the forward tee. I just saw the transcripts posted. He cracked his forearms. Oh, it was what happened there. How do you crack a forearm? I don't believe that. I don't believe that. He said he couldn't, he said it was made the weirdest noise. It went straight right. Because you topped it. That's why I made a weird noise. No, no, not the top. Not the top. I don't apologize for that. Well, don't apologize for the top.

How do you crack a forged iron? Because he's got all this fucking speed in the world. Dog. It's strong. This is why we have DJ on the pod. Exactly, absolutely relate to this. I crack hundreds of foreigners for a year. No, so he tops it with a hybrid.

Unbelievable. He said he's never done that before. I thought somebody said on the broadcast, they'd seen him do that before, right? I said that on the couch, which is close. Yeah, which is close. I thought he kind of seemed like he had one of those at Bay Hill. It was obviously not to that extent.

I think it was on number three or something where the window came out of, I was like, oh, that looked like he almost top-date. Those are more and out forever. Those are more jarring than a shank. Because you feel like you made a really good swing and you hit the ball in the relative center of the club phase. And you just, I don't even know what happens.

Very, very. What's happening to me left? You have a bunch. Very quick aside, it reminds me of my favorite players memory ever, which was when we had Tron played at Jack's Beach. The first time we were playing golf together, the day after the players in like 20, those are just shit of whiffs.

18 or something, and we were playing. I was working at the, or so this would have been like 20, 18. No, it would have been like 20, 16. I was still working at the PJ tour. And I was playing with a bunch of people from the tour and I was like, oh, this guy Tron's going to join us like yeah No, I know he tweets a lot of bad stuff about the tour. He's like I think he's like a really good guy though

You know, he's supposed to be a pretty good player. I think he's like a you know, he's like a three or four Hey, he's down from Boston. He hasn't played in four months So there's probably what eight people kind of standard on the first tea. Yeah Tron just cold First of all whiffs. I think he whiffs the first It's crazy. We're on number 10 at Jack's Beach. Our number one at Jack's Beach. The old Jack's Beach.

Whiffs the first one looks at me with like, what the fuck just happened? What just happened steps up. I think either whiffs, I think whiffs the second one, and then cold tops that they're going to straighten into the water. It was made two birdies later. I'd like to think, I'd like to think Bryce

was paying homage to that because it was unbelievable. Shit happens man. What are we, he did it? He said he cracked his warrant, he looked down after he hit it, everybody's making fun of him for looking at the club and said there was a big line across the bottom. Said he didn't hit it for the rest of the day. Oh, that's what happened on the top.

So what did he hit on 18? Is three iron? Like what is he carry? What does it, I think bag look like? I think it took a four iron probably. That's a good question. I thought it was that souped up four iron. They kept up. So what's, so what's he hitting on 18 then off the T. Because he hit an iron off 18 again. We'll investigate. I guess it was downwinds. We probably could have five iron, but somebody asked him why, if you know, why carry a five and six iron, he's like, ah, they're there just in case, just in case, just in case, in case he cracks one. When the shot happened, I saw the tracer and I was like, don't get, don't get high. The tracer just malfunctioned. Tracer mouthful. Yeah, for sure. And then sure enough, it went into the water.

And then Westwood just sprays one off the planet right. That was a DJ pie mess. That was not good. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, have seen that one before. Can we talk about it? I thought he was going to clear the water on the on the right side. No, but I've been in homage to your T-shirt on 16. Was it last year? Yes. Where it came Bay was coming backwards. I've had so many conversations with Maddie, because Maddie and Leish hit driver down the left. Every time they play four, regardless of where the pin is,

they hit driver down the left. He's like, because it doesn't, it takes those bunkers and that water out of play all down the right. He's like, I can deal with those mounds four days in a row, but I can't deal with being up against the lip or, you know, messing with that water down the right on a really just bad three wood. It was shadowed the price and for making two out of that or making six out of that only

losing two shots. It was just up and down on the fifth and sixth shots for unreal. The fact that you had a day. The fact that you had a day. Maybe you had a day. The fact that you had a day. The fact that you had a day. The fact that you had a day. The fact that you had a day. The fact that he had the discipline to play it just straight up play it backwards on the fourth shot was pretty impressive too. Can we talk about Westwood's drop on two? Please. This was a topic of conversation. Lee really only amongst us. No one else seemed to really be talking about this.

Will you describe it? Because I only saw the pictures you tweeted and it was hard to get a frame or reference. First and foremost, we're not like, I think Lee Westwood is beyond reproach. Like I don't think we're accusing him. I don't think he's a gentleman. He's a gentleman. No, seriously, he's a glass sack. He's a total gentleman.

Like I don't think he was trying to get one over on anybody. Not at all. He was acting on the information that he had, but looking back at it, his reality and the actual reality, I think we're two different things. Those are the guys you got to watch out for TC. Don't let your guard down. It was a tough look for the process because he sprays one right off the second tee and tries to hit a recovery punch out of some kind. He says, ball was up against a pine cone. It hits a tree branch

and then it enters the water on the right of number two in the very front right corner of the water. We see the splash in the video clip very front right corner of the water. We see the splash in the video clip. Five feet left of the red steak. Yes, on the right. So you see, like, and some people are saying it bounced way right, and I think the tour officials, you know, in the golf digest article said it bounced right,

and it did not come in from the right. It's very clear that this ball was not cutting. It's coming off of a tree that is also well right to the fairway. So it enters on the far right and we look up and Lee has dropped 30 feet, 35 feet inside the fairway line. I was gonna say 15 yards inside the fairway line up almost as close as he possibly can to the bunker. Right, but he's in the fairway from a bad angle,

but in reality, he should have been dropping in the rough from an even worse angle. And he hits ball on the green two putts for Bogey. Again, to your point, he's working off the information he has. I'm just wondering in the final group of the players championship with every shot live, all the camera angles you could possibly have, why there isn't a process there for like, hey, we're kind of uncertain where this went. But hey, with all everyone like following this, we probably can get a very good idea of where this went in. And if he sees the image of where that ball splashed, do I think he drops there? Absolutely not.

Is it possible to do video review when every single rule is decision? No, but it feels like an important one. It's hard to be sitting at home and looking on the screen and be like, yo, the ball didn't enter there. Like, I know that. And the millions of people that are watching this know that, why don't the people that are competing in this competition that many people around the world are gambling on?

Also know that. And the tour wants to keep the onus on the players to police themselves and to make the right decisions. And that's fine. But in certain instances, like this one, I don't think Lee was equipped to make the right decision. Right. It was virtually impossible for him to know where the ball went in.

Then they had no problem using video review on four. Right. That's the only part I'll fault, not fault, Westwood, but I'd say, hey, you wanted video kind of some confirmation here that this ball crossed along this line, which I don't even know how they've reviewed that and got that figured out. That's a separate conversation. But you can use video to do this. Like you've done it before

and they did this with Victor Hovland on the 11th hole on Thursday. And we can talk about that process. And in the final group on Sunday, you know, while there's live betting going on and all these things, a bad drop was taken almost certainly. And in my opinion,

Friday morning versus Sunday in the final group. Can I raise some, some, mark, just some questions. Okay. So was it red? I, I, I have the 3D image up on PGA, two or a calm. Yeah.

And I wouldn't, I can do. And I wouldn't, it would be, it was at the line of the way in the way where the ball went in on the on the 3d shot tracker, whatever that gets adjusted. Where he dropped was left of where it went in in reality. So that's what and so I know you can go straight back and then you can take a club length. Because of that spot in the new rules and all that stuff. I know. Listen, Randy, I got you. I rules and all that stuff. I know, listen, Randy, I got you. I got you. All right. I just want to make sure we're considering all five possibilities with a, with a red, uh, I know you're taking a ride. I know you take

the line. You can do it. You also, of course, that's always at your disposal. I know you can take the line and go straight back between the pin and where across the margin of the hazard and, and the pin keeping that point the trade line. But my thing is it went in far enough right as proven by the screenshots that it there was no way that he was going to drop in the fairway, right? It no way unless it's like in the very corner maybe, but he was 15 yards back from there too.

He was way left of that. So I want to preface this with, I have very little energy for where did it cross Twitter unless Patrick Reed is involved. So this was kind of like, oh yeah, that's kind of weird, but already won, right? Let's move on. It's like grassy, no, twigs. It is very grassy, yes, exactly.

But I will say what I don't understand, and I'm sure there's a rules person who could explain this to me, is just the disconnect between when the video stuff is used and when it's not. Why is it used on John Rom at the memorial, when his ball moves and it's not used here? You know, when do you step in and when you not step in

because it feels pretty gray right now? I would guess with it. Because it feels like John Romkin is probably the best person to hold himself accountable in that instance. And then, yeah. Like, when does the switch get... Yeah, I don't get that.

And I'm sure it's something they're figuring out as video gets better and better, and as video gets more equitable as far as who's on video, who's not on video. I think your difference you're looking for here is where it crossed Twitter here is. It's difficult to judge by video. Unless it's like concrete, right? This is, well, here you can see the splash. You can see the splash, it is, it's difficult to judge by video, unless it's like concrete, right?

This is, well, here you can see the splash. You can see the splash, it is, but it's different than a ball moving, I think. I really do think that there is a teeny bit of gray area that technically the tour can fall back on in this situation. Do I think it's right? Do I think overall what happened and played out

is right in terms of the competition? No, I don't, but there is a difference in like seeing if it ball moved on camera and trying to figure out from camera angles and all this stuff, wear a ball. Crockett. At some point though, like the tour says, at some point, you know, we've got a team watching all of the action, keeping up with it as far as rules go. If something makes the main broadcast, wouldn't it be germane to the competition?

Like if something's on the main broadcast, you know what, we're gonna video, like that doesn't pass the eye test, we're gonna video review that real quick, you know? Such a, God, if somebody suffers through the last two minutes of basketball games with the video replays Be careful what you wish for I I mean these guys take forever for ruling that true to Randy

I totally get that but in golf like as far as As far as what we're talking about NBC just goes and shows six other golf shots And as a viewer, it's not going to affect us one bit. And these dudes will flat out take 10 minutes for a ruling if it's going to benefit them. Yeah. So it's not a, it's not a pay-to-play question. No, it's really not.

I don't think. Just because, like I said, it seems like a thing that players can use when they want to to say, can you review that to see if it covered? And then Sergio had a relatively interesting drop on the back, too, right? Yeah, he had a cut driver starting it out over the water, it covered. And then Sergio had a relatively interesting drop on the back. On the back. Yeah, he had a cut driver starting it out over the water that never covered. And then I look up and he's dropped like 42 yards from the pin, which it's TPC sawgrass

is a nightmare for this kind of thing. It's a minefield for, for, where did it cross? For Wittenberg. Yes, exactly. That's why we need you guys out there keeping them out. Seven, fourteen, 18, and another dig. Only some people are willing to ask the difficult 12.

12's probably got a little bit of that to it as well. 12 exactly. So listen, it could have tangibly affected, you know, where it definitely did, where I don't know if definitely did. It could have affected where Westwood finished the tournament, all the dudes that finished a shot behind him, they lost out on second place money, like it has a downstream effect to it, so it's worth discussing.

Can we talk about Westwood's actual game? Because I feel like we totally skipped over. I feel like we totally skipped over him last week, which I have been feeling bad about, so I'm glad he was in the mix again. We mentioned a little bit of the, I haven't always rooted for him, haven't always, you know, how and why that flipped. And I think for me, you know, we were talking about, I think it all comes back to the ball striking

in that round on Saturday for me, just summed up why that was so fun to watch. I mean, that was like complete textbook, surgical examination of the golf course. It was, it was awesome. So there's been so much that's been written and talked about with, you know, oh my gosh, he's in such a better place and all that stuff.

And as much as that can be cliche, it was, I mean, Randy, correct me if I'm wrong. You didn't have a good time watching him just yucking it up, smiling the whole time. It was great. That was totally different than what we've seen last 15 years. It's got to feel like I'm saying on his back.

Could have been anybody. Thought it was such a good juxtaposition to total Jackson. He's got to feel like 15 years. He's got to feel like 15 years. He's got to feel like 15 years. He's got to feel like 15 years. He's got to feel like 15 years. He's got to feel like 15 years. He's got to feel like 15 years. He's got to feel like 15 years. He's got to feel like 15 years. He's got to feel like 15 years.

He's got to feel like 15 years. He's got to feel like 15 years. He's got to feel like 15 years. He could have been anybody. He's got to feel like 15 years. He could have been anybody. He's got to feel like 15 years. He's got to feel like 15 years.

He's got to feel like 15 years. He's got to feel like 15 years. He could have been anybody. He's got to feel like 15 years. He could have been anybody. He's got to feel like 15 years. He could have been anybody. He's got to feel like 15 years. He could have been two weeks and we'll see you in three years on the Champions Tour. Well, check it out. Can you get on the Champions Tour? I don't know how that works.

If he's only won twice on the PGA Tour, did they take Euro to, well, I guess obviously Monty plays on the... He's got a quarter of the Tour of Champions Tour. Where is the Bryson has? They announced that on the first tee. That had to affect him. Bryson's won four times as many times as it's him. That's sort of...

I've never really thought about that. Euro Tour players that didn't really win on the PGA tour, they're a place on the table. There must be a way in, because Monty obviously beat up the champion's tour. So I don't know what's true. I just, I feel like with Westwood, it's, we've watched him in so many big moments, hit the biggest shots and the biggest,

like he's, whatever the question the course is asking, he answers it and then his putter or his wedges just screw him over around the greens, right? And it's, and then his putter or his wedges just screw him over around the greens, right? And it's very much like there's a certain sense of just tragedy about it where you feel like, God, like this guy is so much better than his record indicates. And I know we shit on Finaw and all that, but it's not like Westwood is rinsing where I mean he did today on fun for or like he yes he rinsed some balls, but I think over the course of his career like thinking back to several masters or just some tournaments here and

there where it's like it's it's always reliably his putter that lets him down and he's such a tried and true ball striker and he love his swing. He covers the hell out of the ball. And question from 76 golf nut. Does Westwood finish better with a real caddy helping in stressful situations? Sometimes you need someone who knows the game and your tendencies to help finish it off. Well, the only thing about, you know, the 16, they keep leading unless you could make an in game switch. Well, they keep chasing for 16 or yeah keep leading, unless you could make an in-game switch. Well, they keep judging when.

Just for 16 or. Yeah, like, hey, I'm coming down the stretching contention. Let's bring in the real. Finnow you're coming in. They're gonna be gone. They keep leading with how little he cares, like he just cares about it less. And every time I hear that, I'm like,

that is a coping technique. You know, Rory's tried this. And for somebody that has dedicated their whole life to this game, I'm sure there is some sense of like everything else is gravy at some point, but the dude cares a lot. Like, and trying to tell yourself, you don't, it might work for like 63 holes, but come back nine on Sunday when you really want to try to win. Like, you are feeling everything that you ever felt when you were in contention.

And he played great. I'm not saying that like- He also just made like $1.6 million. Yeah, that's the, that was good consolation. And like I know he didn't come home with the trophy and I know he wants that, but at some level like my question is, and I know he got divorced in 2017, like what,

like how bad of a place was he in 10 years ago, right? Where, I mean, I know like that's, that's what I struggle with a little bit is like, was he drinking too much? Was he too hard on himself for these shortcomings? I'd like to hear more about, hey, I'm in a different place now. And is that just the, you know, this newfound perspective or really like, what is the it that's brought

this late career Renaissance back? I hope it continues. I mean, I don't think a ton of people are gonna necessarily bet on it at age 47, but two weeks, you know, doing two weeks in a row is different than one week, that's for sure. He's got such a great, like, I mean, your putting is what goes when you're,

when you get older, and his putting already want when he was 15, right? So like what's, there's's, there's nothing to go. He's gonna keep hitting the ball well. Like I don't see, I don't envision Lee West would going away in the next five years. Well, I think to your point, Randy, it's like, was this real or was it not?

I think so much of it has to do with the setups the last couple of weeks, right? And I know we'll get into the setup of the golf course this week and all that stuff. But I mean, Bay Hill just, he's the person to your point, John, like he's going to play great on golf courses that are really exacting and really, really hard. And I think that you had that on Thursday and I think where it's almost like the putter made up the difference.

You know, the softer the golf course got and the more players it kind of led in this week, it was almost like his putter kind of made up the difference and You know, the softer the golf course got, the more players it kind of led in this week, it was almost like his, his putter kind of made up the difference and kept him in it this week. Can we hand up? No idea. He's now ranked 19th in the world. Yeah, I would have guessed he's ranked like 150.

This is all news to me. It's almost like the giveaway. A lot of points on the European tour that I'm ready. Can we talk some Bryson? Before we, I just want to, I want to tee this up for when we get to him, Bryson? Before I just want to, I want to tee this up for when we get to the setup. I think that the tour set things up

as anti-lea west for this. They possibly could this weekend. It felt personal. It was really, it was very, very apparent. I don't even know what that means. I think this is a deep causation, correlation disconnect here. You got a UPS sponsor guy out in front of your marquee event.

I love the conspiracy. I totally get why you're saying it. I just think it's very stupid. You're gonna do whatever's in your power to bring as many guys into it as positive. Well then why did they do that with the rules? And the fact that it was an opportunity. Well, because it's a total gentleman, which we've just said. And the fact that he drained all those pods except for the one on 17, drained pretty much every putt center cup. that he did that, like the fact that he drained all those pods except for the one on 17,

drained pretty much every putt, center cup. That's where I was, you know, like the ones that he misses, they're so far off that you can't even blame him for him. And then he made everything else that counted. And so I was shocked to hear that he was what, third in putting for the week. Yeah, yeah. That's wild. He's clawing, everybody's clawing these days.

And he's putting for well off the green, which I respect the hell out of. What do you what was your takeaway from Bryson? The big golfer. So Ben Doer is asking the question, what are the thoughts on Bryson's game given he played as bad as possible and still fired an underpar round. Pretty incredible. I think it's somewhat indicative of his week. He started out the week playing very well. I don't think any of us necessarily were expecting Bryson to play very well. And I know there's a kind of tweet something along those lines this week. And you know, a lot of people were quick to cite his resume before he turned into a power player. But he's also had one of the wildest

transformations I've ever seen a golfer make in terms of deciding I'm going to bully golf courses. I'm going to hit as far as possible. And he's said that about his strategy at a lot of places. So in my mind, it wasn't a stretch to imagine that happening at TPC, hitting him into ass places, like he did all over Augusta, and things like that. And so I was walking away, watching him like navigate the moguls through the first. There's a lot more ass places.

Yes, TPC saw this. There's a lot more ass places. Yes, TBC Saga's big ass place. And watching him navigate it and never really getting tempted into doing anything reckless and at any point was extremely impressive. And like it was very much like a he has this distance muscle that he can flex when he really, really wants to, but he's not tied to it, and he's not too proud to dial it back and hit this shot and do this

and play proper golf, and it was an exhibition of all of his skills without like his driving being on full display, and I think it deserves credit. I mean, he finished tie for third, and had a tough day at an including a top, but man, it was eye opening to me, and it was concerning in terms of like, I think he's gonna win more than maybe we even thought.

I totally agree. I think people tend to get wrapped up in the distant stuff that, you know, it stops with the driver or something for some reason. And I think we always would say this with Hilton head, you know, it's like, oh, Dustin Johnson, you know, he can't just, he can't just hit driver out there but it's like, yeah, cool.

He can hit two iron. That's even easier, right? Like it's,, yeah, cool. He can hit two iron. That's even easier, right? Like it's, and that, I don't know, you saw Bryson kind of take that tacked on 18. Where it's like, you have this whole that everybody, oh my god, there's so nervous they can't even spit on 18T. Bryson's hitting four iron every day and he makes four parts. It's like, the driver is, it's much more than just,

you know, like watch, let me hit it over this corner. You didn't hit the four iron well on 18 though. Or I feel like that's the story of Bryson's week is how nails he was chipping and putting. Yeah. Right, wait, I mean, putter kind of let him down today, but he, Saturday, he was, he was rock solid with the putter and he chipped his butt off all weekend.

Yeah, I mean, it's, it's a very, very, very, very real thing. And he's got a bunch of, he's got a bunch of bicep acne. So I'm just gonna leave that there, guys. I, I, I, I expect, I'm testing again. I expect him to be in the mix just about every week, right? Especially the bigger events. I feel like enough people out there though are saying, like looking at a golf course and be like,

oh, that, you know, he can't do that stuff around here. And like, we'll write him off before the week. And now I'm saying, there is not one golf course you can do that. There's not one. I'd love to see him tee it up at Harbor Town, which is a similar test to sawgrass, just on a smaller scale.

And with a little bit less penal, especially in kind of that middle stretch. And I think he would crush people, hitting, like you could take driver out of his bag and he would probably contend. He did it last year. Check it out. Yeah, he did play Harvard County Fist T8. That was when he was, yeah, that was.

But I feel like people. I was going to say, I feel like that's early days and he's got so much, like it's corny as this sounds. He has so much more data and so much more. I mean, shit, last week he was still figuring out how the gear effect was going to mess with something or other. And this week he was getting his chew rate dialed in. Did you guys read that?

How fast he's digesting food, he was working with some scientists on his chew rate. I feel like he's just free diving in the data lake. That's a big setting records. There is one stat that we haven't mentioned with regard to Bryce so much. I think is the most important. Feed of putt made. No, that's up there though. He now leads the FedEx Cup standings.

There you go. I think he did before the week, too, didn't he? I guess he probably took over the lead last week when he won. Yeah, he was won. Well, he has maintained that. I think I can report. JT's number two.

She's getting worse. It's cool. Pokerack gave it the top 10 we saw. Shouldn't the players be worth more than 600 FedEx cupboards? You win like Barakuda, you're not Barakuda. You win like Corralis and it's 500 and the players is 600. What are the majors worth? 600.

That's the max. Right, but players should be like a thousand. It's their own dumb system. That would be the, I know what I'm kind of shocked that they haven't flexed that. Right? What if it's a finite amount of, what if they only have so many FedEx Cup points

to give out? FedEx Cup points are neither created nor destroyed. It's not like Fiat country. They're only redistributed. Bitcoin. Yeah, exactly. It's a goal. They just don't have the computing power

to drum up more from that. Read into that. That's how these call these energy problems. So we're going to have a hyperinflation with the FedEx. A few more things to cover here and then we can get to some setup stuff. Want to give a salute to Brian Harman's line on 17. Yes. I did the quick back of the napkin math when he hit the shot.

I think he basically bet $400,000. I mean, he wasn't going to hit it in the water. If he makes double, he would have dropped 400K back, and he makes birdie with it. So I don't know if, let's say, he bet 400K at like 200 to one and hit. I did not see the line, you know, how firm that was. Let's just land it on the downslope

behind that bunker and get it to stop. I do wonder, lefty advantage there, honestly, being able to kind of hit a fade with that wind. Like a lot of the writing. Straight down wind though, right? It was coming off the right a fade with that wind. A lot of the righties. Straight down wind though, right? It was coming off the right. Like all the pieces. No, but today it was straight down.

It was down off the right, all the whole week, basically. I know the whole week was down off the right. Today it was straight down. I felt like I saw some flags whipping a little bit left. But even the guys that were the righties were not able to hit like fades in there. And he was able to get one, I don't know.

I thought there was not a coincidence that the only dude who really took that line in the final groups was the left hand. Neil was out there today. Neil, Neil wants to text it as four times, say, God Brian Harmon's so little. Neil, where have you been for the last 12 years? Rudy's buddy in the stands.

He's so little. I saw a guy in a mega corp hat walking around out there, which I'm gonna go out in the lim, I think he was probably related to Brian Harmon. Or I'm going to make a corp. Yeah. Does Paul Casey ever get shown live? I argue too much.

No, I argue, you try. Never lie. Thank you. He's always up ahead, like always in the top five, like this, just a moment ago, and I feel like it almost always, he's on tape this just a moment ago and it's I feel like it almost always He's on tape to let that's the thing. I feel like Paul Casey is a poor man's Lee Westwood Doesn't very rich man's leave. I was gonna say. Oh, I don't like yeah

I mean he may win on the Euro tour or whatever. I just mean he makes a lot of money Oh, he makes a ton of money, but I don't think he ever does anything that He'll he will never come and snatch it. No, right? If Paul Casey's in the mix, he is protecting the points. He is trying to... He rained on the cat at Valspar a couple years ago. He gives me Kurt Farence vibe.

He's like, I love that take, Randy. Congratulations. Here's a top five finish, like $17 million. You won the leaders or legends division. How about $33 million, right? Just take it all the way, Paul. I'm good. And you are consistent on guys that have a ton of time.

I don't win. I don't see, before, before, costus got let go, CBS showed him all the time. I think they think people like him, and I've never met a Paul Casey fan. He's got that big, big whips of Team Rose. Who's asking for this, man? He might be the B player on Team Rose.

Yeah. I have you ever met someone like, dude, Paul Casey, that's my guy. He's like, Team Rose is stuntman. He's got the Jigsaw bag sponsorship too, which is an homage to the bone saw. Speed. Speaking of guys, you know, we had Tony got unlucky this week.

Oh, hated that. Just a drive-by shooting there. Not a legend. Guys, it's not a, I'm just trying to empty the notebook here. This is a good course for Tony. Yes, exactly. Why? Because it's proper. What the hell does that mean?

What does that mean? We just talked about Bryson and length and how, oh my gosh. You know, it doesn't, Bryson's really good, like really accurate off the tee. I don't think Tony's quite as accurate off the tee, but it seems like he could hit more, whatever,

like all the drivers, all the offense is that. All the hair is the best ball striker in the world. Exactly. What do you mean he's not accurate? He had a bad, he had a good round two, right? You just had a really bad round wall shot. Yeah, shot what it didn't matter. He shot three under and round two, but three,

oh, sorry, I'll yield the rest of my time. I told you that. Well, they've dumped it down in round two anyway. You guys are though absolute worse. I feel like co-crack might be the guy that we are trying to whip it to get him to make the cut. That we thought Fina was gonna be. Hold on, say that you got it.

Co-crack might be the grown up version of Fina. Whoa. I have thought about that. That's a future episode. That's a future episode. Sergio, just wanted to, I don't want to talk about Sergio. I've shocked, shocked.

His 700 day one was Sergio. I'm shocked. Shocked. His 700 day one was crazy. It was unbelievable to me that the guy who was hitting Puts with his eyes closed didn't win the golf tournament. He missed a 23-inch putt that didn't touch the hole. That's wild. And he putt it pretty good this week. I know.

I guess he lost strokes over. Maybe it was just sorry. He didn't. Maybe it was just a TV thing. I'm with you. It felt like every time they cut to him, he's making a putt. The second and strokes game putting in round one

after hitting 15 greens on the hardest day and then just did nothing the rest of the week. That feels sustainable. It was very reverse weird week for Sergio. Doug Kim, I wanted to get this in. I'm not going to read the full question. No, you have to read the full question. Did we know who asked the question?

I don't know who this is. All right, I'm going to read it. question though. No, you have to read the full question. So good. Do we know who asked the question? I don't know who this is. All right, I'm gonna read it. Word for word. And ASAP, this is from ASAP Sports. I'll read the Doug, give answer. You're Doug Gim. I am insert reporter right here.

Which shout out to Sergio, they started with obviously. Obviously. Obviously. Obviously, you're in a great position going into Sunday. When you think, when you see this leaderboard filled with the Europeans, filled with Americans who have been Ryder Cup guys, I mean, this would be a new experience for you, but have you thought about the fact you grew up watching the Ryder Cup, right?

So I mean, do you think that it would kind of be like a preview version of the Ryder Cup when you see who is up on that leaderboard? Garcia, Westwood, D-Shambot, Justin Thomas. I mean, those guys, those are guys that you expect to see in the Ryder Cup. But would you talk about that element to it, even though we can't, we probably can't put you in there quite yet, but just the idea of being with those Ryder Cup guys tomorrow battling?

Yeah, I don't know if you noticed, but I'm like 257th in the world. That was the end of the 8th. What's that? What's that the reporter from pga.com? They could have been. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I think this person wanted to insert the...

The solution. I'm just saying. He's on paternity. I always hate begging and press conference questions because we are never in press conference. I've asked some horrible questions in my time. Really? Oh, on podcast. I've found one of my servers. You? Oh, on podcasts, I've found one. Oh, I was gonna say, you've been to press conference. No, I've never had the nerve to ask a press conference question.

But this is why I hate the press conference questions. It's like, this person has clearly decided what they're gonna write and they're looking for a quote to, instead of looking for the story and finding something out from the guy, they are clearly forcing this angle and trying to get to say something. And he just wouldn't give it it to him which could have been. Oh, literally if you're looking for a Doug Gim story it kind of begins in and with like

today sucked huh? Like this is before this was saddered. Or is dad. Okay. Because this dad and where's this dad? Is dad not on the bag anymore? His dad and griller might be the biggest two alphas on the plan. Exactly.

Can you explain? Maybe it's not even worth explaining. What Europe's session with Doug Gim's dad? Just go for his bag years and years. There's an Alfa Catti. No, I know that. Yeah, he was on the back forum at the USM when Doug lost to Doc Redman at Riviera

and then just like a shepard. He was really regained in the Illinois junior golf scene everybody was like, he was the biggest but also the best helicopter parent that ever lived. And then I was over at the Dunhill couple years ago, or, that's probably four years ago now, and Doug was playing, and his dad was smoking sigarillo's the whole day when we're out at Karnusti. He was a fucking legend, man.

I would say too, I was surprised that whoever was asking that question didn't, didn't pull a Matsuyama in there. No, maybe next time around. The dream was always for Geller. If he was gonna leave speed, was Doug Gimbs' dad was gonna step in and be Spice Cady. Which I think there's the dream. And I wanna be clear to we're all massive fans

of Michael Greller. No, I don't think anybody's calling for that quite yet, but it's good to know that's on the back burner. Oh, this was, you know, back when Jordan was more in the wilderness. Guys, I'm not going to name any names, but it was a local news. It was a local jacks news person that asked the question. Hate that. Okay. Hate that.

Speaking of Greller, a tremendous Greller speed combo was caught on whatever tea that was that was 11, I believe. 11 tea that he's trying to, Greller's trying to talk him into hybrid. Oh, sorry. I was thinking on whatever T that was that that was 11 I believe 11 T that he's trying to Greller's trying to talk him into hybrid and oh sorry I was thinking about the the speed country well we'll get to that one but you great speeds got three wood or some kind of wood and and Greller's kind of going to try and get him to hybrid and speeds like oh I mean unless you think that's the play and grow, just, yeah, I do. Just. Very, all right, let's do speed and Sabatini, which I think, um. Can I just say Friday morning, Miela and I are out,

we're following, we're just kind of bouncing around. Four to nine to 18T to 16, but on 18T, we watched Morakawa DJ and Spieth hit one off. Or no, Moracawa, Bryson and DJ and then Spieth was in another group. And we were in a group in front of them. We were A, we were dis-pointing with Bryson just hitting an iron off T, which, I don't know, and then DJ just stepped up and unleashed one. But Spieth was playing a cut. He was aiming 10 yards out into the water

and playing a cut back into the fairway. And he was like holy shit dude. He's the real atista. He's like 40% of the way back, right? He drove it good this week. That's the scary part. I know, but that's the thing. It's like he's playing with one hand tied behind his back,

and he's still doing good shit. So that's terrifying. Like once he gets shit figured out, I think, I'm putting all my chips on him. I'm me too. He's coming up for parole. He's an absolute killer and he's coming up for parole. Who's in the parole board?

Well, no, I think the parole board is like, Bryson, Dustin, Rom, a lot of these guys, it's like, not only does Speed have to put it all together, like he's got to beat all those guys still. So I mean, there's a lot of really good golfers now. They're all fluffers though, most of them. They're not all fluffers. No, but most of them.

Most of them. Can we talk about the 70s? Rom's a fluffer. That's a bad day. We're getting closer to that, aren't we, Tron? DJ all weekend was like, dude, Rob's gonna win. Obviously, Rob's gonna win. Rob's gonna win.

Rob shot like 73 today. Just not even, didn't even think about getting into contention. Saw you were saying. I was trying to talk about the 17th day. He doesn't want to defend it. He was saying, what do you want me to say? Yeah, that's an uncompetitive T9. Not good.

We can talk some every shot live here in a little bit too, but one of the tremendous things that every shot live gives you is like, they put microphones on the T-Boxes too, with no announcers. So, on the 11th hole on Saturday, Jordan speed T's off and sprays one way right, and it hits a tree, and they realize very quickly they

hit in the lower 70 and he says he's like, oh, who did it to? That's a team. Oh, that's the worst guy to hit into all captured. 17. He looks back at the T like does him to hold up. Very very come at me, bro. It's a terrible shot. And then they're like on the team like, I hope he hits it. Oh, no, that's not good. That's my fault. Katty says, oh, here's another look back. Yeah. And then more, Kawas steps up and says something about 17,

like FaceTime, his girlfriend, or like creeped on his girlfriend, something weird. He's talking about saying hi to his girlfriend, even though his girlfriend wasn't on site. He was like, oh, yeah, FaceTime, dude. Something like that. It was just a very, you know, you know, you don't want to put words in people's mouths, but it's not like they're making some

accusations, it might be a little uncomfortable around, around 17. But like that kind of stuff happens, not, I mean, this was specifically incident was, you know, unique, but that little weird stuff like that happens all the time. It was endearing. Never caught on camera.

Yeah, never caught on camera without an answer is talking over it. And it was refreshing for the five or six hours that it was up before it got DMCA. You know what I noticed though? Griller took part in that conversation, but his back, he knew exactly where the microphone was on the T-Box and his back was to it. And you couldn't hear a word that he said.

I think he was the one saying that about like, oh, that shot was your fault. I was pretty sure that was everything it was to. Yeah. We don't know that for certain. The good thing is the video's script so you could never be proved correct or incorrect. What does DMCA mean for folks at all?

Some sort of copyright act. You take it down and, you, you know, if it's basically just means claiming cop, you've used my copyright. I mean, we're a player on organization. This makes one of our players look bad. And we're going to have to answer their agent. And we're still going to have to get down from a specific and they did it in four hours, which is probably record time. So I applaud them. But we're, we're, we're starting to beat the system now. We warn people, hey, watch it now because it's going to go. And they watch people screwing record and all that.

But you got to. You got to wonder if you got to wonder if the data lake helped with that. And then be if those tokens, those those new the NFTs, the non-fungible tokens. Exactly. You got to wonder if that was a part of that. You see Bryson's boys, Kings of Leon, we're issuing a new album on an NFT. I know. We got to read all about that. It's what I was saying to Perks, front row concert tickets and the next two years. But I think you podcast on NFT. Well, by the end of 2022, I was going to say, I guarantee Bryson will discuss wanting to be paid in some time of crypto. Oh, that's a good day. You can take that to the bank.

I wish I had thought of that. Will there be banks at that point? What's a good point, too? In Randy's world? Hope not. Well, hopefully they're small, but that's a whole nother podcast. I want to give a shout out to Taylor Gooch. 66th and Stroke's came off the tee this week and finished tee five of the players.

That's very impressive and very difficult to do. He made a clean $579,000 this week. I feel like that kind of taints his reputation now. 66th and in Stroke's off the tee. You get good stuff, Jack. You're a bad boy for that, Tron. Can we talk about more Kawa a little bit? Do you wanna do that?

He thought it. He thought it. More Kawa put it bit? Do you wanna do that? Set up a Roy. More Kawa put it so bad the first three days and then lit it up today. It was like there's no recall day to day and then he just wakes up Sunday and puts lights out. But I mean, he missed six footer after six footer, four footer, eight footer, 10 footer. I liked your, he needs to keep finding new grips

so that he has these little honeymoon periods with him. That's a good take. I think two you can't discount. I think this is the first time he's played in front of fans. Ever? Maybe. Maybe.

We're still working on that. Why not go to one in Reno last like two years ago with in front of fans? You can't be sure though. I was there. Yeah, I don't know. I worry you. Why doesn't he go to the,

why hasn't he go to the arm lock? I don't know. He just won with the saw. But it was, it was in week two. What have you done for me lately? Big time would be done. The arm lock's the final frontier. No, the arm lock should be illegal.

For sure, it's a 100% cheating. Hundo Pete. Why can't they just write a rule that says, you're only allowed contact with your putter in your hands, right? In that, just totally. I mean, they wrote rules against Sam Sneed

when he was doing the side saddle stuff. Like how is arm lock any different than side saddle? No, I would let guy side saddle. I'm fine with side saddleing. And I'm sorry, Webb, I know it's gonna ruin your career, but like it is what it is. It takes your wrists and your hands completely out of your stroke.

I never understood the difference between that and anchoring in your belly or your chest. I agree. So I don't know. I don't know. They don't seem to have a full grasp on the putting stuff. So you wish she doesn't have the full grasp on things? It's all a smoke screen.

Let's do distracting the distance. Let's argue about the setup. Let's argue about the setup. Let's argue about the setup. You guys were in the battle lines. What team are you on? What are the teams? We'll see what team is on. You know where T.C. and I are.

I know it's gonna be me and Sully against you too. And all I would ask is that you listen to what I'm saying rather than just trying to instill it. I've already listened to the fake fight. All right. I kind of want to let them hang themselves. I know that well No, they're just gonna be harder. No you you guys are the prosecution We're the defense

All right, it's quite the opposite The burden of proof is on you guys why no the burden of proof should be on you. Yeah, well I hear here's all great golf tournament Here's what I would lay out I think was it a great call for me. I'm gonna play off between Bryson and JT Should have been what playoff between Bryson and JT. It should have been one point. Should have been. What is that even me? All right, here's the prosecution. This is what I'm saying.

Let them hang themselves. It should have been a playoff as part of, is there a lead case? It's not the lead case. It's not opening statement. No, I'm just talking to the media beforehand. Yeah. I'm just, I'm just, I'm going to go get it out.

I'm, we're in jury selection. What I would say to your point of the day, we saw a great golf tournament. I think it was exciting. We saw birdies, we saw bogies on the last day. I totally agree with you guys that I thought Thursday was the most entertaining day from a proper golf standpoint.

Thank you. But however, what I would say is I would look, I would look at precedent here. I would look at 2015 TPC stadium course V Fowler. And I would say, you look at what he did that day. I think the players looks at that as a wild success. Anything can happen on the back nine on Sunday at the players. I think that's the golf course they're looking for. And frankly, it's kind of hard to argue with that. I think what the moronics... That was a black swan. That was a black swan of that.

What the defense is going to say, if I had to guess, is that, you know, if you want to be a major, you got to make it really firm, you got to make it hard, you got to make it a better test. All of which I agree with as a very hard core golf fan, totally agree with you guys. I think that's not the point of the players. I think the point of the players is to make it pure entertainment,

make it as sensational and outrageous as possible. And certainly didn't do that this week. I think, but I think they set it up for that more than, more than defending par or making it a very proper ball striker's test. Because I think 5% of people watching this, think about the shit that you guys are about to talk about. No, come on. Being at the tournament on Friday and Saturday and like reading messages of like

Tron being very pissed about the setup. I was there on Friday too. But I was just like very disc, I was very disconnected from that. I was just like, oh, like looking around at all the people and just being out there. I wasn't really like that dedicated to the golf. I was more having fun. And I was very much like. I was living under par.

I was way under par. He was, there's malbri there. And he's self-incriminating. No, you can, you can, you can plead the fifth right now. No, it's just like wait, what is the kind of the point of this? If I was sitting around here watching the golf, I would want to see some entertaining, I would want to see some birdies.

I would want to see some like dividing line shots. So like, hey, you could birdie this hole, but you might be in the water also. Like people cheer when the ball goes in the water, the same way they cheer when the ball goes in the hole. And I found that entertaining to your point, DJ. Could they have absolutely made it more difficult? 100%.

Like if they wanted to, they could have tucked the pins in harder spots, defended par, and it probably wouldn't have been that entertaining to watch. Cause I think the pins were tempting. The actual, it forced you to be aggressive, to go make runs, J.T. plays a stretch of holes, 500 par and four holes to go win the golf tournament.

And that's probably what they wanted. Was it like amazingly exciting? No, but like it was set up to have that possibility. That sounds like a resounding argument right there. Your honor. I think to your point, especially the hypotheticals that are about to come. Where you say it would have been more entertaining,

I think, when you say it wouldn't have been as entertaining, I love watching that stuff. It would have been more entertaining to me, but I think I'm a total rarity is where I'm at here. I'm saying if the scores were higher, just out of pure, like, putting the pins in different spots and making them inaccessible to everyone, that would not have been as entertaining.

No, he's asking about putting anything. The pins are set. The pins are set. Yeah, it's just about not having soft ass greens and so. So, all right. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, Randy and I would like to present our case. If we may. There was a Thursday,

we talked to a PGA tour rules official earlier. He was demonstrative in saying Thursday was exactly how we wanted things to be. And I'll say this, I enjoyed Thursday. Thursday was fantastic. It was awesome. You didn't hear one from me. So you were shot 65, Henry Extendson shot 84, right?

Like it was awesome. We watched Max Thursday, DJ and I, and I wouldn't match you one over. Yeah. And we got out. That was a good round of going. And I was like, how the hell is Sergio 7 under? Like, I do not.

What? He's even crossed his street. It's Saga has country. Yeah. So, yeah, please continue, John. So on that front, I realized, before we even get into it, I realized that there's certain things in play here. We're in March. They

are, they've been giving themselves a hand job for the entire week about how good the course looks. I believe they just call it masturbating. Correct. It's very, very, very masturbating. Correct. You're on her. Opposing counsel, I should say. It's sustained. It's sustained. And I get that there's certain limitations with they've been dumping water on this golf course. If you, if anybody saw the amount of water that they've dumped in this golf course

over the last five months, it's egregious. They're depleting our aquifer. Up to that. Jackson, conjecture, conjecture. Do you have any proof to this? So all I would say is is it's, it's, look at the water table. With trot, look at the water table.

It's nearly impossible to get that like in basically bubble like dome like conditions. I mean, it was if they would have played the tournament last weekend, which I would argue that they should have on immediate 24 hour notice. Yeah, they say, hey, where you know what, Payhill postponed for playing players. This weekend, get up here. There's a 20 mile an hour north wind. It's like Mavericks or it's like the Eddie Akow imitational or whatever up on the big island or on on a Wahoo. I would argue that they should do that. But all I'm saying is they don't world where that's not possible. Yeah, Thursday was great.

And then I went out there Friday morning. Let me ask you this. Did it rain Thursday over here? No, no, no, no. The court will show that it did not. It was slightly foggy, which I acknowledged. It was a little bit of humidity in the air. There was no wind all week.

I mean, the max sustained winds. There was wind Thursday. There was absolutely wind Thursday. Oh, it was nine to 10 miles an hour. Thursday was the windiest day. Okay, versus four to five all weekend, right? The win was a factor. I think in making the green.

That's some bad faith argument. The good, at some point, you're gonna acknowledge the correlation between when the win blows. The greens just happen to be firmer a lot of the time. They're having a win-foot. The whole time at Winxfoot, the dead, the calm days, the greens just happen to be firmer a lot of the time. They're having a wing foot, the whole time a wing foot, the dead, the calm days, the greens were softer and on the windier days, the greens were firmer and at Sawgrass, the windiest day, the greens were the firmest that they were all week. Sally, if they looked or not.

But they're also, they're also a privy to a forecast and the forecast has been very rock solid here the last six, seven days and said, we're gonna have a little bit of wind on Thursday And there's gonna be relative like there was zero wind Friday and Saturday. All right. Let me ask you this zero Hold on hold on Stand there's a great We're not sorry There was three three or four mile an hour east 717 all day on Saturday and the flags on top of the,

of the, whatever stands we're blowing. Do you know what it is? It's not your readings, did you get a reading? It's a, it's a, solid, we live, we live here at the beach. We live on, we live on, we live on a fucking island, right? There's 340 days a year where it's like 10 plus mile an hour winds.

These are some of the 20 least windy days of the year. Yes, they were calmer, correct? Correct, 100%. So, and I realized the fact that they put rye grass down, they on greens and fairways and rough. The roughs not as penal as they would like to make it out to be. Like, you're gonna get a decent lie in there. It could be juicier.

The fairways are relatively, like the fact that JT was getting as much run out on those. Fairways were better this year than they were last year. Last year was there were mulls last year, despite they're not being virtually any rain, the entire month of March, except for the Sunday night, prior. But I would say, like there's not that much. There's just, there's, there's no excuse for there to be inconsistent firmness. I understand 17s of brand new green.

So let's set 17 aside. 17 was an outlier and that got firm on Thursday. Surringe that one if need be all weekend. That's fine. But I'm so upset with like Friday, I talked to, we're pit half a dozen players. And I was like, dude, that was bullshit. Like the fact that they softened up the course

and I talked to agronomists and they said, no, we didn't do anything different to the course. There was nothing. And it was like, all right, well, what's the, because you're playing golf in a fucking dome and it was a completely different golf course on Friday than it was on Thursday. Two strokes, almost two strokes easier Friday to Thursday.

What when Max was over here at Thursday, and I asked Max what was so hard about today? He's like, honestly, the pins just like didn't match up with the wind. Like the pins were so difficult for the wind. That was day one. So yes, there's a, I don't want to overrate the wind on Thursday because it was. That's why we heard that wing foot. I'm not buying it. It wasn't a big wind on Thursday and it wasn't that's why we heard at Wingfoot. I'm not buying it. It wasn't a big win on Thursday, and it wasn't that different.

Like the win on Thursday was higher than the win Saturday afternoon, even too. And so I think that like there's, here's what you guys are not answering. Why? They put in a bunch of funnel pins today. Here's what you guys are not answering. Just why?

It's where you're losing the good stuff. Why does it need to be, why outside of yourselves, think outside yourselves from once in this courtroom. And all the all the. Let me make my point. So you can't land it off the green. That's an expect to run it on like you saw that with West

would coming down the stretch today on 15. I know that's coming out of the bunker and that has a ton of spin on it. But it takes a far different bounce out of the fairway than it does. If it takes that first bounce of green. That I hate. Let me just, you're not speaking to my,

the crux of my argument, which is, again, all of this I agree with. Why would the PJ tour change anything that they did? Look at the leaderboard that they got. Look at the winner that they got. Look at the score that they got. Look at the furties and eagles that they got. You look at the scoreers that they got.

Other than like, yesterday, or... Toronto and Randy want to see something different. Why else would they change? You look at the scores yesterday morning, this morning, even Friday morning. And it's like, like guys are going fucking low. Yeah, you're gonna laugh.

That's fine with that. That's exactly what I'm saying. Because it's a chaser's golf course. And then at four o'clock, the win does pick up. And it's total, like they were, they were conspiring against Lee Westwood not to win this golf tournament. You guys are doing a horrible job.

It's just somewhat of an effect. No, that's somewhat of an effect. I think the larger point. No, but it's true, it's absolutely true. I think the larger point is, I wanna see the full, I don't think the margins were. The course should get small enough this week. They were on Thursday and a little bit Sunday afternoon,

a wait little bit. The court should get progressively more difficult as the week goes along. Oh, God, here we go. Winkfoot, your exact opposite argument was, they should, from day one, it should be as difficult throughout the entire week. No, I'm saying.

You did not like soft on day one at Winkfoot. No, I didn't like soft on day one because it was too soft and they never got to where we wanted to go. I said they're probably trying to get the golf course to peak later in the week, progressively more difficult. But it never peaks. It did get a lot more difficult.

It did get a lot more difficult. And this is the issue with here. It's like, it got progressively easier as the week went along. Thursday was the peak and then Friday was easy. Saturday was easy. And I would argue Sunday was easy too. And this is, it's a very penal design and people say, well, you know what, like the best players in the world are going to adjust and all that. I totally get that. They're great players. But at the end of the day, like the firmness of the

greens, I mean, Bryson himself said it on Saturday, the firmness of the green shouldn't be scatter shot, right? Like there should be a consistency to the firmness of the greens. This is the first time that Bryson bitching about a ball not bouncing his way has been used in support of an argument. Are you guys talking about consistency? Are you talking about making it harder? Both. Both. It should be. It's simply hard. Okay. Like, yeah, I don't even, you can't argue with what you guys are saying. I can't tell you how many, like every player I talk to, like on Friday night, Saturday morning was like, holy shit, like that was a different golf course that we played on Thursday.

And not nobody I can do that. And you can't just describe that to, to a guy to a motel. To a motel. To a motel. To a motel. To a motel. To a motel. To a motel. To a motel. To a motel. To a motel. To a motel. To a motel. smile an hour more when you guys are the most rubber the green guys I know like that's like that's what's in front of you

Like that's the challenge that everyone got to go take this is the tour nature. This is this is the tours home course that what down The street there is mother nature that no place is so unnatural, but exactly that's that's what we're saying They full control of fucking everything. They have sub air underneath there That the The temperature was 75 to 82 degrees. All four days this week, there was no extraneous factors in play whatsoever. They should have been able to dial that thing up. Just turn off the dial each day, each day, each day.

Right, but what my book presupposes is, maybe they don't care about that. That's my point. But all they care about is being treated as a fucking major. And this is where you guys are doing a bad job of making your argument. If you just say that, if they want to be a major, they need a treater like a major. I agree.

The issue is though they get their cues from the USGA that are making their courses too easy. We need somebody to make a difficult golf course. And just stick with it all week. Exactly. That's all we want to apologize for. It's just, hey, here's the presentation this week. You got a, like, the winning score is going to be

minus six at Saga Ass instead of what was it? 14. Minus 14, which it's, yeah. Which it always is. Yeah, typically, minusus 12 minus 16 area. At some point, hey, it's gonna be a different test this week. We really, like, we want it to be. It's a, it's a, it's a fantastic golf course.

I love sawgrass. It's, it's, it tests everything. It's agnostic. It doesn't favor anyone. And I think at some point, like, especially with the rye, like it's gonna be, I understand that it's gonna be slow and soft in certain spots, but the greens, they have the ability to, like, just don't over water

the fucking thing. It's all we're asking, because I think the tour is obsessed with fast, the greens were the same, it seemed like they were the same speed. The speed of the greens is not the issue. It's the firmness of the greens. Okay. All of this again, I agree. I would I rather watch that? Yes.

But you guys are absolutely, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I said that 45 times. What you guys, you are completely pissing into the wind here. If you watch the broadcast because they don't give a shit about anything you're talking about, that's my point. But the point is, why not? Listen to what I'm saying.

What we should think off of what the broadcast is. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, what is the incentive for them to change anything? If they want to be major. That's going to change it. That would change your mind. I think so. If they want to be a great competition like a great competition of golf where their, their own players

aren't talking shit about them after they get done with their round on Friday, then yeah, like maybe be a little bit more consistent day to day. That's all I'm saying. I think if it was a hard-ass golf course, it would make me think like, oh my God, that's a, that's a major golf tournament. And I don't see that week. That was the entire point, the entire objective of Pete Dye, Dean Beeman, TPC Sawgrass was like, hey, let's test these guys.

They're mental fortitude and like to the best of their abilities. And they've finally gotten them back to, hey, here's how to present this. And we have the ability to do this. And they just refuse to use those tools. The golf course is quite a ways away from where it was designed, I would say. Totally. I get that.

So what I'm saying is like all that stuff seems to have gone out the window with, all right. This, we should get off of this because we're going to just keep talking about this back and forth forever. But I think, to me, closing argument, it speaks to the players as a massive identity crisis in my mind. And where I was talking about this before we started, and it's like, it clearly, clearly, clearly wants to be a major, but it doesn't treat the golf course the way that a major championship would treat its golf course. I think it clearly wants to be like a grow the game device. Let's make this as entertaining as humanly possible, but that doesn't jive with making it as hard as possible.

Like I think they still want to see birdies and eagles and all of those things. I think you're still going to see that stuff, though, even when it's this. But do you get what I'm saying? You're not giving me an inch here on one time. No, I'm not, because I don't think the two things are mutually exclusive.

I think for setup, this setup is way better to me than the past few PGA championships have been. I totally agree. Like, this is way more entertaining. I think they're test of golf. I think Kerry Higgs and Fluffer. So that's we can have that conversation somewhere else. I think this golf course is really good at like we've talked about a million times

of you don't know who's going to be in the mix. Anybody can win there. All that stuff. Blah blah blah, which I think is unique to the PGA tour and that again, they I think they totally could art if they I would not want to see them go down the route and I would not trust them to go down the route of like trying to protect the scores, right? It would be insanely easy for them to have made the winning score minus eight. Regardless of firmness or any that, where they put the T's, where they put the pins, they could have made the scores lower.

We're not talking about any T's or any pins though. All we're talking about is the firmness of the greens. And I would say, like, again, I don't know enough about how to manage a golf course throughout the course of a week in terms of managing, right, while it's warm, and when all these factors that like, I don't know enough to say like, they can crank it softer and firmer than they want. They can literally kill the greens because the grass is going to die anyway because it's

oversea. Like, that's the whole thing. It's like, they, you know, got this from, got this from a friend, plays on Tories, said they literally have no idea how to get courses firm and then let them slowly get firmer throughout the week. I'm fucking livid. And I was on Friday afternoon. But is it something that made the cut or did not make the cut?

Made the cut. From an entertainment standpoint, do I think it would have been wildly more entertaining if it was, unless it's like comically firm, I think it was set up for like golf shots that were a lot of funnel pins, but it was like, hey, if you get it in right here, you're gonna have a great chance to make a birdie

and make a move and that's like what they wanna be as a tournament and you can argue that you don't want that to be that as a fair hand. I think what they wanna be as a tournament then sounds like soak the fucking greens and let guys shoot 61, 62, 63 and have it be as a tournament then sounds like soak the fucking greens and and let guy shoot 61 to 62 63 and have it be just a complete free for all is it sounds like that's what you're arguing where like no I think it's a balance arguing that it was good. Yeah.

It was a good balance. They have a balance of like 64 is the lowest round of the guy won the tournament. I don't know. I don't know what to tell you guys. Agreed. It does. I guess what I'm saying and I'm not trying to be defeatist here, is that 95% of people watch this tournament and we're like, holy shit, that place looks so green, man, that's awesome. Which that's a, I think, and that's part of the problem, is like, that, to me, is a bad message to send. I agree.

And we can talk about all that. But I'm just saying it, it doesn't jive with what they want to do. We best time to play golf in Jacksonville at most area courses that aren't overseeded. They have the native Bermuda grass and it's firm and fast and the ball rolls and all that. I'd rather see Bermuda 100%. Yeah. But like if we're going to do this, I think they're I'd like Tor wants to jack themselves

off all week. It the course just goes in. It's so well. Like and Jay, Jay said it was unanimous from the players. It wasn't unanimous from the players. Like a bunch of players had an issue with the consistency of the course. The player shouldn't have to adjust from,

like don't present it so tough on Thursday and then revert back on Friday. That's my big issue too. It's like don't make the players prepare for one thing Monday through Thursday and then take a take two steps backwards on Friday. Like that to me doesn't seem fair or or or you know, just reasonable, right? I've played in tournaments where it's so the conditions are this one day and then it gets maybe easier the next day. Maybe it's harder the next day, it's kind of like,

if it was a tangible impact on like, who deserves to win the tournament, also it's gonna be a different conversation. But those are tournaments where like, the weather changed, like something demonstrably changed that day. Where I take a show. Nothing changed from Thursday to Friday.

Which what you're saying is what everybody glorifies about Augusta, like all you can go out there, but just wait and Wednesday night, man, that's gonna be a different golf course on Thursday. I don't, but like, Sundays the easiest day of Augusta. They always set the pins. That's never fun to watch.

Right, that's my point. That's maybe, there are some dumb funnel pins at Augusta too. But that's exactly it. Is 95% of people don't think about that. This is where Raining I differ. I don't have a problem with pins being like, if you take on a risk,

you can funnel it down to a certain pin, like on 16 pin with awesome. Yeah, like it's, there's certain things where there were, it's like, hey man, like the margin is thin here, and if you hit the shot, cool, like we're gonna reward you, it's like, you know, skip to level four. I need thinner margin, so I need, I need, I need. And that's the day that's where, and that's where, that's where the firmness comes in.

Yes, exactly. And that's where a, a little bit of wind, like we got on Thursday can, can, can drive things different. So if it blows 15 with how they set up this, it didn't, I know. There was nothing like that in the forecast. It was the most docile win we could possibly have. Again, this is the question you have not answered. What's the incentive for them to do that?

What's the incentive for them to maybe miss on the wrong side? Because they're, they're, hey, I would say not miss on the wrong side, just hit the mark. Would be, well, I would say their core, their bringing risk of missing. Their core fans wouldn't be bitching. I would say they're bringing risk of missing. Their core fans wouldn't be bitching. I would say, like, we all right now, maybe you guys just have low expectations.

Maybe, that's what I think. I definitely do. Like that's where I'm like, this fits within the bounds of like what I think we can reasonably expect. And you guys hung your hat on wing foot with like them advertising it is the toughest test in golf and not living up to that It was great. It was it doesn't pretend to be that it was technically the toughest test in golf also But the players to your point does not pretend to be that in fact like they took a hole and made it a easy

Driveable hole which I think was like 12 was a dumb Oh, hey on real school or challenge, which is ridiculous But like it so they're clearly on the it's calling it on. Like, it's a part. There's four reachable parfives and a drivable par-four for everyone in the field. I have no issue with scoring. I have scoring as relative to the field, right? It's like, you know, the field scoring this each day

and then this each day. Relative to par, whatever. I don't, like, I'm not bothered by, if it was 22 under, but I felt like it was dusty and firm and fast, that's one thing. And I get that we're never gonna get the bouncy approaches because it's just over-seed right that you have to soak for six months.

Totally get that. And it was an improvement over last year where the guys were getting mud balls on Thursday. With no rain leading up to it. I can't believe they got it in this good shape this year. Like the shape this year versus last year was a massive improvement. But I would just say the course

was legitimately perfect on Thursday. I don't know what happened from Thursday through the rest of the week. I will bet they were concerned with the timing and how they didn't even come close to finishing on Thursday and they needed to get 154 players through plus finish the round on Friday morning. I get I would bet that was a concern. I totally agree, which I think is why 12 was back and not reachable. 100% either Thursday or Friday, but I that stinks.

Totally, but I will give them credit that the reason that the field was bigger was because they invited a bunch of people who didn't get to play last year. So, is what it is. Hopefully next year we get a 20 mile an hour north wind. And that's going to happen one of these years. Yes, it will. We'll be praying. But then when that happens, they're going to dump a bunch of water on greens and make it soft.

They didn't at Bay Hill last year. When the weather came through last year, Bay Hill played firm, crispy, win, drying out the greens, like pro golfers, especially with five base, like essentially five par fives with the drivable four, five extremely scoreable holes with no wind, they're gonna take every one of them apart. Like they're going to. No problem with that. Again, like I don't have a problem with birdies,

eagles, all that. That's not the, that's not an issue at all. If the weather gets too good though, we gotta watch out because they'll stop play. Like they did a review era. That's a an issue at all. If the weather gets too good though, we gotta watch out because they'll stop play. Like they did a review era. That's a good point. Let's do that one. The golf course is really fucking fast.

Let's move on to other things. To Rory. We're talking about fast, not firm though. Firmness and fastness aren't the same thing. Moving on to Rory. Rory stinks. Rory has like a eye opening comment. I'd be lying if I said it wasn't anything to do

with what Bryson did at the US Open. I think a lot of people saw that and we're like, whoa, this is the way we're gonna set up golf courses. It helps, it really helps. The one thing people don't appreciate is how good Bryson is out of the rough, not only because of how upright he is, because his short irons are longer than standard,

so we can get a little more speed through the rough than us than other guys. And I thought being able to get some more speed is a good thing. And I maybe just to the detriment, a little bit of my swing, I got there, but I just need to rain it back a little bit. He talked about getting his swing getting longer and flatter, and now he's got a two-way miss going, and he misses the cut by a mile. What do you guys make of Mr. McRoy's comments?

So Roy's always had two swings, right? His driver's swing and then his, like inside 70 yard swing. Is that kind of, I mean, I'm asking here. That's what I've heard from players and heard from other guys. We're like, you'd Roy's so good from 85 yards or 100 yards and you get him inside of 70,

you get him to 69 yards and he's fucking clueless. I think it's the other way around. I think the difference swing would be a shorter swing, but I don't know enough to speak on that, but I think it's like really depressing and concerning to hear him talk like that, right? I mean, it's like, have some self-respect. Yeah, are we buying that?

That sends my spidey senses tingling. I think if I had to totally guess, I mean, I think he's just a complete, as open of a book as he can be of someone of that fame level, right? And so I think you catch him, you know, when he's kind of glum walking off the course, I think he's gonna tell you what's on his mind.

And so whether he feels that way all the time is one thing, but I mean, I think it's jarring to read it in print, right? And I think the Bryson stuff is, I appreciate him not trying to pretend like that wasn't part of it. You know, like obviously that was part of it, is watching Bryson go win a major, doing that, it's like, oh, well yeah,

they're probably just gonna keep setting him up longer and tighter and more rough and all that stuff. And so yeah, I've been trying to do what he's doing. He was posting Instagram stuff with his ball speed shortly after that. Like it was very, there's a lot of guys on it. Oh yeah, a lot of guys were. Dustin was doing the same thing and.

But at some point, I was a guy's word to you. I know we've said it on previous podcasts. At some point with Rory, I want you to be less introspective or less honest with all of us. I think with with Rory for it to come back to the coast. Yeah, why? Yeah. I think he's just saying that he's kind of exposing himself and like sometimes, you know,

saying some these things out loud. Sometimes saying these things out loud. Because that's just playing into Bryce and more and more, right? I would think I think just when looking at Rory's game, you know, from 10,000 feet, like no one looked at it and said like, yeah man, like you need to get like better and longer with driver, like you need to change something with driver.

I think everyone is kind of screaming like, you're not hitting the ball close enough to the hole with everything else. And whatever you're, I have no, I don't say I have no idea what, right? I would be wrong to assume or guess that Rory is not practicing his wedges or not practicing his short irons or, you know, whatever.

But there's something within that process that's not working. I'm not saying he's not putting in the time, maybe he's not putting in the time in the correct way or maybe he's, you know, he doesn't, he needs a golf blueprint to help him practice his wedge-acres here. Whatever it is, it has gone on long enough that it's like, dude, like if you can't see, that's where you're losing shots to this guy. Yeah, he's gaining a little bit on you off the tee, but like, that's not the issue.

Yeah, you used to stuff the ball a lot more and you used to drain puts like a lot more consistently and why is that not happening? And nearly the same frequency anymore? Is I know it's a question you're asking yourself. So why would you dedicate your energy towards changing something with your biggest strength? Which credit to Dustin Johnson?

Because I know he did post a couple of the chasing ball speed things, but he also, I remember vividly, I don't know if it was Ka, it must have been Capelua or someone like that, where he was doing a press conference and people were asking him You know well Bryson, you know, he's just changing the game. What do you think and Brett Dustin was very like yeah You know what man? I'm like very comfortable with how I play golf like I'm pretty much the best player in the world

So yeah, I don't think I'm gonna really change anything and and hearing this was Stark departure. I think more so Rory's comments much I'm not sure if they were earlier this week or last week with him, it was basically saying, hey, are you going to mix up any other variables? Whether it be caddy, coach, something else just change something because the current mix doesn't seem to be working. And you can debate what working is because he, you know, he, he,

he was very successful heading into COVID and all that. And then, but at some point, there seems to be a certain reticence or a certain, you know, hesitation to, to change anything. Right? It's just, it's, it just like a commitment to, hey, here's, here's what I'm doing, what I'm doing is the right stuff. And if he's gonna be that forward with everybody, then he needs to be totally forward and say, hey, if you do change something, tell us what you're changing and tell us why.

Because otherwise, you're not, like, you're trying to, you're acting like you're giving us a full picture and you need to give us the full picture if you're acting like that, right? My thing with Rory is he's not a good putter. Like if you want to fix something dog, like make more putts and what do you think's more comfortable to say to the media?

Like, oh man, I'm just trying to chase Bryson, you know, I'm just, you know, or like, hey, I'm not very good at putting and I don't really know how to fix that. I'm not buying that he's chasing Bryson. I mean, putting wise, what does the stats say? I can pull it up. I think it, you know, he had this driver asset, though,

that has slipped. And again, I don't know what to read out of. But I think that he's 80th on tour this year in in putting, which is not far out of line from some of his best years. He was 122 last year. He was 24th in 2019, which I think was his best year. Which was his best year. 97th and 18 and then go back to 14, which was his best year. He was 41st in putting, but first in structuring over. You look at Bryson went from what, one, one 22 to third or one 22 to fifth or something like that.

And it has, it may ever said like, Roy's, you know, he's just not driving the ball far enough. Right. He's just not in it. Well, but if you're gonna look at it though, like wide angle, wouldn't you think that Roy, Roy's biggest asset was also the one that people were gonna pick off.

He no longer from 2014 or 2012. He no longer has that same advantage, because more guys are hitting it. He's not as much of a head. He's not as much of a head. He's not as much of a head. He's not as much of a head. He's not as much of a head. He's not as much of a head.

He's not as much of a head. He's not as much of a head. He's not as much of a head. He's not as much of a head. He's not as much of a head. He's not as much of a head. He's not as much of a head. He's not as much of a head. He's not as much of a head. he's just done getting better at putting. But it's not easy to unlock this tour leading skill. He has driving and guys have caught up to the driving. But and so I don't think it's reasonable to expect him to say,

you know what, I'm gonna be a world class putter now and just conjure out of them. No, not world class, but when you're already talking about like I'm the best driver in the world, like how do you improve, like where do you go? I don't, it's totally, it's like easy picking. Well, where's my room for improvement? It's I think it's always been putting, like dude, just like make more pots.

But I think that's the whole thing, is like the whole, which is what Bryson has done, which I think it's overlooked in all of this. I agree. I would say what maybe I'm hot done which I think it's overlooked in all of this. Yes. I agree. I would say with Rory. I would say with Rory.

Yes. Yeah. Totally. Of course. I would say with Rory and with Bryson, I, if I have to hear the triangle thing one more time, we're like, yeah, you just got that golf machine thing going as a triangle. I would say with Rory, like he was, he was easy pickins, right? Like he was, he was at the top, but he had a very clear strength.

That was the easiest strength for guys to improve upon and to close the gap on. Yeah, I think it's really what the issue is not necessarily that the driving has gotten worse, it's that it's crept into other parts of his swing. And he isn't hitting his irons nearly as well and hitting his close anymore. So I don't know. I would just say that everybody else has gotten much better at that skill too. He's still way up there in driving though. Like he's still up there in Strokes game off the tee. He's third this year on tour in Strokes game off the tee. But it's the 87th in approach. And 80th in putting is crept him down to 14th

in stroke's game overall, which he used to be one, two, three kind of guy. So, um, you guys have anything for hamstered him? I predicted it would be an excellent broadcast with limited commercials. I thought it was great. I have a very positive thing to say. I greatly enjoyed the every shot on the tour cast. Yeah, I watched that three days and it was great. Every shot live was fantastic. It was a great resource to go back on. It was great to watch. If you wanted to watch a

group, no announcers, hear, speak, and griller talk about shots on the tee, hear, speak, and read what they're saying to each other. It's not that interesting, but watching Reed walk up to his ball on the fifth green today, and look at his lie and be like, oh, there's really thick stuff here. And waiting to see what he was gonna do with it, but hearing the shot by shot, I think it's an open phase 57 here.

I'm gonna try to land it right here and do that, and then he did it. I was like, I am engaged right now. Like that is what golf needs a lot of. It's not realistic to do every shot live for every event right now. It is gonna be added more and more and more throughout the years is from what we understand,

but hopefully with the data lake. If, to make this event stand out and to feel like a big, big golf tournament, one lot less commercials on the telecast helped a lot and two being able to watch every shot live on every shot live was made it feel like a big really big event. A big event. It also made me think like this was a big sporting event and every other PGA torrent

that I watch is just an ad vehicle. It really, really, really made me feel that, especially after big. I was home the difference. Yes. That difference of like, whoa, all the players are there at this one. And it's like getting the big boy coverage. What have I been doing for the last like two months? Like why is, you know, why do they do, why don't they do this 20 times a year instead of like letting it bleed

for 40 something weeks that you're never going to get everyone there? Honda's going to feel be painful. Honda's nobody's playing that, right? I can't imagine any of the top guys. I'm sure there's some that, you know, are local, but like, God, I feel it's gonna be not strong, I imagine. Did the mics cut out on the read? Ruling?

Allegedly. That's what I didn't see all of that, but I don't know. It was, it's extremely interesting to go back on and watch, like, whoa, Andrew putt them chunked one on 7 on Friday. I'm gonna go watch that on number seven and, you know, oh, how did so-and-so make a seven here? And you go watch it all happen is, it's an asset. It's a big, big lift for just like a,

and their minds probably a minimal inquiry. I get's probably not a huge money maker for them right now, but it serves the fan, which we've been begging for. So, the only caveat I would put is I want to make it very, I don't want to be on the block or be associated with like, I'm begging to have, you know, every shot of Matthew Nasemith's round broadcast live. I deeply don't care about that.

I, it's pretty rare, I feel like, where I'm gonna, I'm dying to watch 15 hours of golf a day, especially at the players. I want to, it almost kind of drove home for me. You know what they actually do do a pretty good job of putting the interesting groups on PJ tour live. I don't know if I really need, especially on Ricky Mrs. LeCouple. I don't know if I need a ton more than that from a live golf perspective.

I'm sure there's a bunch of gambling reasons for having these, all these feeds up at the same time. But where I found it really useful, just personally speaking, was with the PJ Tours tour cast, is kind of there, you know, where you can click in, you can see like every shot that somebody's hit, you can see all the radar data from the track man that are on the T-boxes and all that stuff. I thought it was great. Like, when you see Holy Shit, Roy made an eight.

It's cool to be able to click in and see like show me every one of those eight shots. Or hey, Speed just made three birdies. Let's go look at what those three birdies were. I thought that was great. I don't know if I have a ton of use for the, having a feed of literally every group is really overwhelming to me.

And I really like to actually the masters. I I know you're saying it's not live live. It's on kind of a four, five, six minute delay. But the masters, my group or whatever it is when you can actually, it'll just chop up like show me Mark Leishman, Tiger Woods, Bruce Capka, Justin Thomas and Jason Day. And it'll show me all the shots from those guys as they happen. I think that's a lot more useful than just, I'm gonna put on this one feed for five hours and watch 90% kind of dead time, but.

It's obviously better to have than not have. So I would rather have this, honestly, I think. And I think on the way with this is gonna eventually be what the, every shot, or the my group thing is with Matt. But I'm hoping it's more live, because it was too far behind for me. But this is, I don't know, for us that, you know, want to follow Max's rounds, like you

can go in and watch it all. It was great for that. I think they do need a picture and picture kind of option or a four box option. Yeah. If you want to see multiple groups all at once. I think this feels like a, it feels like a supplement to shot tracker versus a live viewing option. And the past viewing, what you're saying is like, you just, I can go and click buttons and watch all of Max's around that I missed or something like that. But instead of going, hey, all right, cool. Like how did he make five on number eight, you can see,

all right, I can see the T-shot and then I can see the lie and all that. That's just a great resource for like, what happened to get on 14 today? Go back and watch that. I think my biggest takeaway from coverage was the fact that the proud partners need to spend more money on their actual commercials.

They're spending that much money. Different commercials, you see. Yeah, just different commercials. Just have a wider variety of commercials. Because I saw so many fucking Justin Rose shots. It was like Justin Rose, Rory and Ricky. And just three of them missed the cut and felt like it's like, all right, cool. Like either choose better ambassadors or like, because they're, you know, Randy, you've got the Grant Thornton purple palette and on the out there and Ricky missed the cut.

I hate that for you, man. I know it stinks. Hate it. Thank you Tron It is like a mate if somebody did a like a Venn diagram of like the things that Players has copied off the masters The partners that run the commercials the live streaming online again most of it's all good like you should probably should be copying a Gustav but it's pretty shameless. They have such a hard on for Augusta.

It's wild. This is the wind tracer was my entire point about the course setup, which I don't want to get back into it. Yeah. You people don't go them into it. All right. The wind tracer was awesome. I don't even know if it's accurate, but like all this shit going on at 17, all the swirls

and everything. It totally messed with my head in terms of I thought I had. I thought I had. It totally messed with my head in terms of I thought I was very simple. It's not. I thought I had they should mess with the setup of the boxes every year to where like they put different gaps in different wind tunnels to do a day today. Yeah, and see if and like put those things on tracks, right? That would be sweet. In the picture and picture on 17 watching guys reactions as balls were coming in and landing on the green. I thought that was awesome.

So mostly positive hamps damage or other than it's hard to go backwards. And I thought the conversation between JT and Jimmy on 18. On 18. Yeah, that was great. That was the best, some of the best comments they've picked up all year via microphone and they let it shine and it was awesome. Asking what he carried this club on the previous hole and like that process is.

It just goes to show you too that like the commercial load has such a massive impact on. It's too big. It's got to change. It's just fun. I've got to change it. And it's not gonna, it's gonna get worse next year. The announcer list tour cast,

it really goes to show how little, I think a lot of talking ads. Oh my god, to watch and go off. I didn't need it when I was watching. I watched Michelson and Charles how on the third this weekend, I was good. Anyway. I've spent a couple of days out there. I just want to emphasize again, it's like one of the best possible tournaments to attend as a fan, just like all the viewing spots,

especially with a diminished capacity. I would like to comment credit them on like, mask enforcement was real out there. Like they had people going around straight up to people like cover your nose. Like you can, most, they would. Almost to the point where it was uncomfortable and like kind of militant.

A little bit and also just kind of more worried about the optics on TV than they were. Hey, I don't care what you do as long as you're not within 10 feet of the ropes. Exactly. So I thought they were you know vigilant on that and you have to be if you're gonna let them any people in and there was not a small amount of people in there but I thought that was handled very well and some some clear thought was obviously given to that. So it's always a great experience on site. Like they do a good job. It's our hometown tournament.

I love going to it. Kudos to the paying volunteers. The energy was just different around two guys. I felt, Speed and Bryson. Bryson was feeling himself out there. He was yucking it up at the crowd, laughing, thought he was really entertaining people Didn't look half as cool as he probably thought but it was he was feeling himself and then when speed came through Saturday Just like he had a really good shot in the 17 and like that whole whole place just lifted

There were some other good shots on 17 and the place did not react like it did with Jordan's teeth Which people validated a lot of what I feel when I watch him and it was cool to see that in person in terms of this whole crowd kind of stopping and really gathering and getting excited about it. He's a superstar. He's the guy. I know. He's the sewing machine.

He moves the needle. He's true. That's pretty good. That's pretty much, yeah. Benon made an 11, which was sweet and then had an awesome tweet after it. The golf challenge did the super cool, really cool creative tag of friend

who had been making 11 and Ben had been on tag of himself. That's well played. Good sport about it. I had a couple of small things. Empty the notebook if you guys will allow me to. We didn't talk about them making the 18th whole internal out of bounds. For Bryson talking about maybe hitting it over into nine,

I walked around there for a good amount of time on Thursday trying to figure out where he was kind of half-bakedly thinking about hitting it. Didn't see a great spot to land it over there, but I've done it, it's not great. I've actually done it before. Like on purpose? Yeah, I did it in a scramble or something once.

I tried to find the video, I swear there's video somewhere, but I've done it. It's not worth it. I don't know why, unless you could get all the way to nine fairway and then take line of sight from the tent, it just, I don't get what he was masterful chess play. It was great. It was absolutely awesome. I want to give a shout out to the Cadi competition.

I feel like for all the things they rip off from the masters, that feels like an actual real players championship tradition that was spawned organically that raises money for charity. It seems like the players and caddies are super into. Even the caddies we talked to, like the only downside, I think it mega slows up that back nine because everybody's got their caddies and agents and all kinds of different people hitting shots on 17. So it takes like three hours to play a practice round on that back nine on Wednesday. But it's good to hit shots. Some of them, if like you don't have a

caddy who, if you don't have a caddy who hits, listen, it's on the edge of becoming horrible. Randy, but it's, I'm the edge of 17. If I know one thing about golf, it will be horrible. I think Ricky, I think Ricky, a couple of years ago, has agent shot. But that's for right now, what I'm saying is preaching the positive, I think it's great. And so shout out to Chris Rice. I believe he caddies for Harold Varna III. Hit it to a one foot two inches,

which is pretty cool. I think he's a local caddy. I believe he is. What else did I have? Shout out to JT Poston. He was playing with Max tweeted this earlier, but he started his tournament six over through eight and ended up just kind of chipping away, chipping away

and finished T22, which is worth about 170 grand. So instead of, you know, maybe a shout out to Neil on that one, I think Neil would have packed it up, maybe WD, threw his clubs in the water, something like that. Instead, the postman hangs out, cash is $170,000. Came into this week's 66th. I believe in the World Rankings, which is kind of the big reason for bringing this up is just a week like that, man, you never know. It could turn around. It could bump them up. I didn't see where he

bumped up to this week, but it's got to be really close to getting into the match play. If he plays well at the match play, who knows, could be getting close into getting into the masters. It's just, it's the little, the game within the game stuff. He's, he can tell you this. He masters. It's just it's the little the game within the game stuff He hates to tell you this he dropped to 68th really. Yeah, I must have had something follow up. All right. Well disregard You never know you never know still a good week Kevin not made an Aiden withdrew that was sweet of course the many people are saying the podcast bump is dead Tough look between that the podcast bump bump not happening. And then, you know, two guys picking the guy to not win that actually won the turn. Kevin, now a drawing

was pretty fucking weak. That was tough. And, and, and Fitzpatrick called him out for it and his, and his poster, I'm pressur. Um, I have no issue with guys with drawing. Really? Like who cares? I never know what you're gonna say. I really don't. Randy, I thought you were a big plan again the right way. Can I go on that? I mean, honestly, like who cares of Kevin All with draws right now?

I am very out on guessing if people are injured. Like if he says his back is hurt, I'm very much like, you know what, I'm not gonna guess that it's not fake. How cheesy is it? Only the other thing I had, I know that I'm sure they mentioned on the broadcast plenty of times, but Adam Scott closes to the pin on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday on 17. That's pretty cool.

That's he's man of the moment and then hit in the water on 18. But or it's all right, hit in the water today on 17. Bum to see the Canadian open got canceled this week. He did that. So work days. I was supposed to be going to open somewhere. I was supposed to be going to a good golf course to do this here, right?

Rural St. George. The other Rural St. George. It was about to be Rural St. George S.E.A. and not quite so much. Where would it be the best place to play it? Um, gosh, I would think you could do a different route and you could do a composite course at Sawgrass. Maybe play Dyes Valley. What do you guys think about a woman's players, like at TPC?

He awesome. I think they would have to, you know, we talk about firmness of greens and all that, I think they'd have to mix up some of that or modify the course a little bit. Why wouldn't the tour have the players in the spring and then like have the season finale and at TPC as well? Like, why wouldn't you come to the home twice? Like, why would think on that? Maybe that's a topic for the future episodes, but like someone, I don't know if it was

can't a decky win or someone on Twitter was talking about kind of scrambled my brain a little bit. Like, why wouldn't you have the playoffs be like those best events of the West Coast swing leading up to the players? Like if you had, the playoffs should be, if you had the playoffs basically,

February or March, be like Pebble, Rive, and then whatever, say, Bay Hill or something into ending at the players is basically like your tour championship. And then golf season starts with the master's. That's, that's kind of, that's intriguing. Provocative and interesting.

Because then you wouldn't have the same, although I guess it would make the wrap around even more important. And it's an arbitrary start date as it is. Why not make it mid spring? So all right, let's wrap it up that. Another two hour special. We're getting pretty good at this.

Thanks everyone for tuning in, very fun week and we will be back for Honda Recap next week. And a great interview coming this Tuesday with Hunter Mayhan, if I may say a surprising and if I may say it might blow you away. It was really really freaking good. And I'm pumped for you guys to hear it. So I also want to give a shout out to Adam Long, the Slong T-22 this week. Thank you. Thank you. Just the Pete Died Master. Thank you very much. Cheers!

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