No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 413: WGC-Match Play Recap

Episode Date: March 29, 2021

Pool play format, Horschel's performance, Scottie Scheffler, Victor Perez, and everything else from Austin, including the Na/DJ spat, aces galore, a really fun match play course, and a million ways th...at can make it better. Plus, Dahmen's win in Punta Cana, Campos' close call, Inbee Park, Spieth & Rory, Bryson's NFT's, and a lot more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. That is better than most. Better than most! point. Big Billy Horseshal guy himself as well. T.C. is here. Hello, we're celebrating Randy's last last week in Jack's here. That's right. And Passover. That's right. A double celebration this week. We got no hold on. You can't say that. No, we already said that you're. Oh, yeah, people don't know where. Yeah. Yeah. People know you're moving. They just don't know where. Yeah. A lot of people don't believe it though. Okay. Well, it is actually happening. We have so much golf talk about two PGA tour events,
Starting point is 00:01:07 European tour, corn fairy tour. We're gonna talk some LPGA later in the pod, but for just one second up front, can we talk about our young hitter, Madeline Sagstrom on Saturday. She doubled the first hole, and then went on to make 11 birdies, Anthony Kimstyle. In Madeline's bag are a few of my favorite pieces of equipment, some
Starting point is 00:01:25 X forge Nirens, Crumpsoft X golf ball and an epic speed driver and fairway wood. She's not the only one on the LPGA tour playing Epic Woods. Calabah had nearly twice as many drivers in play as the next brand, plus more woods and more irons in play than anyone else as well. Adam Spenson won the corn fairy tour with an epic speed driver and Crumpsoft X golf ball. That's his second career, corn fairy win. I think Michelle, we had, but I believe in 11 wood in the bag this week. Is that correct?
Starting point is 00:01:51 She did. Okay. You can learn a lot more about epic drivers and woods, including the epic max 11 wood at CalAGolf.com slash epic. And right now there's a limited time 50% trade in bonus when you send in your old stuff for credit towards new gear. So head over to calwaygolf.com for more on that. I think you have to be a parent to carry an 11 wood.
Starting point is 00:02:12 You have to be a parent. Mother or father. Okay, so Scotty Sheffield qualified. Young kids can't carry an 11 wood. Gotta be a parent of a human being. Well, I still can't wrap my head around Madeline's 11 birdies. And she parbed the 10th hole, which is par five. I don't really understand that either, but, uh, um, all right, where do you guys want to start?
Starting point is 00:02:31 What's, we have so many good questions to get to. I imagine match play is going to dominate a lot of this. We're going to solve the match play. We're going to be the only ones on any podcast talking about alternative formats. I have a, I have a feeling, but TC, why don't you take us take us to what got you riled up about match play this week? I love, like, the group play is not ideal, but Friday afternoon is awesome. I mean, even if I get a heart on this, though, there's some meaningless matches, there's some guys mailing it in when guys in the other matches, like, are depending upon, there's
Starting point is 00:02:59 a lot of flaws there. I'm not making a value judgment. I'm just saying it's an exciting afternoon. Why is it? Why is that though? Why is it a fun afternoon of golf? Because there's like all sorts of golf. Because it's like sudden death? Exactly. Yeah, there should be sudden death all the way over.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Okay. Yeah, no, no. But I'm just saying, like the best part of Matt, the best part, I'm a huge fan of this tournament. It's one of my favorites to watch every year because you get to see so many different players that you don't normally get to see a lot of in some, I love the golf course, just super awkward, quirky golf course. But like the group play is just, and the way
Starting point is 00:03:36 that the groups are put together, like there were some definite fluffered groups out there, too. unpack that for me or for the listeners that maybe don't know what you do. So, so, so let's just go through the groups here. Group one. Can we, I want to talk about this group play now, now that we're on it. I think I watch a lot, a lot of golf this week. I honestly, I think I can pair up like four or five people off top of my head and to,
Starting point is 00:04:01 like these two guys were in the same group this week, memory wise. When I'm tuning into watch Wednesday, Thursday and Friday and I can sit there for five, six hours and watch it, I still don't know who's in what group. They do such a bad job of storytelling of like, they don't show you a graphic as to where all the matches are at. They give you no, like, there's nothing, no NCAA tournament vibes at all. And I'm just super confused. It's like, wait, is this, is this match meaningful? What happens has to happen in this one for there to be a playoff? Nothing, no NCAA tournament vibes at all. And I'm just super confused.
Starting point is 00:04:25 It's like, wait, is this, does this match meaningful? What happens to happen in this one for there to be a playoff and then what happens in this one and then boom, they're on a different part of the golf course? It's impossible as well on the app and on the website to track what happened in each group like day to day. You gotta go back in and then they reshuffle all the groups every day.
Starting point is 00:04:43 It's impossible to track online. And like, for anyone that wasn't paying like absolute attention, I was paying as close to absolute attention as possible and still couldn't keep track. So like, what, what hope do they have to keep like a casual fan tied into all this? Maybe they're just counting on you'll tune in to watch Rory play golf even if he's eliminated on Friday. It just seems so arbitrary too when you've got two super hot guys in a group and then there's a few other groups that But that's gonna happen in match point. I mean, that's the vagaries of setting up a 64 person tournament. Randy, where are you at with this? I kind of like it. I do I do think I Feel like I was complaining about just the 64 person single elimination, so I don't know I don't want to be inconsistent.
Starting point is 00:05:25 I think they can do six years ago. No one will remember that if you work. I think they can do some fun tweaks to the group stage. They could lean into, it's similar to the NBA All-Star game and have, you know, the, what is it? 8, 12, 16 top seeds, like, pick their own groups, right? Like give Dustin first pick. Maybe do a little snake draft. We'd love the snakes here. I think too you can make group play double elimination. So you know, on that first day, you got four guys in a group, have them, you know, two matches, have the loser's square off, have the winner's square off, and then the next day, you know, the guy who has a loss has to beat the winner two times to advance something like that. Just what I hate is, it's certain big names.
Starting point is 00:06:08 It seems like if they lose that first match, they can be done. And that kind of stinks. Well, so I think going back, the biggest issue with it is there's only one match play of that every year. That's the biggest issue here, where if we had a true,
Starting point is 00:06:22 I think that's okay though. I do. I don't know, I love it, man. I think it true, I think that's okay though. I do. I don't know, I love it man. I think it's just shows different skills, it shows different. It does, but there's, no matter what you do format wise, you're gonna get to the weekend, and it's almost always gonna be a dud.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Like it really is. But how many times, but yeah, but like go back to Dove Mountain with some of those matches, you know, like you're gonna get lucky. And to a certain extent, you need to educate the fan that a lot of the good stuff is on Friday or on Saturday. Because I don't think Saturday morning is always great.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Yeah, that was the best in the current format. It's the first time where it goes to true sudden death. And the first time where I can look up on screen and know exactly where everything stands. I think I think it's weird Friday, like you play an 18-hole match and then you're all of a sudden you're in that. It starts as no sudden playoff with someone else that maybe you either already played an 18-hole match, you might have even lost to or beaten yet you got to, you know, playoff to make to move forward. I would just be so much more in on this format if there was a true 64 or even 32 match
Starting point is 00:07:29 play at some point at some point during the year. And then they could kind of throw stuff at the wall on this one. Because I mean, think about how many clunker events there are anyway, like 72 holes, like stroke play events. So I think, I don't know, I just, I enjoy watching it. It's a good look at guys from around the world and guys that can't compete on every course on the tour. What about, I agree the playoffs are a little awkward,
Starting point is 00:07:53 especially if you haven't just played that person. Could they do a most total birdies tiebreaker, you know, incentivize the guys to, if you find yourself in a tie on points, we're going to most birdies. So you're gonna have to beat somebody too quickly then you didn't get to play all the holes. I mean, and it's almost like there's a lot of birdies.
Starting point is 00:08:14 If you beat somebody quickly, I don't know. And as flawed as that is, like the sudden death is also fun and enthralling. Yeah, like at least you have like that dramatic day, right? Which right now the Friday afternoon is kind of that thing But again, it's it's convoluted and it's tough to keep track of to be honest and they don't cover it well No, of course not so you had at least that day of like dude Rory might lose his opening match And here's and I get why they do this I do for sponsor reasons for ratings reasons all these things
Starting point is 00:08:44 I get why they want more golf, they want the stars sticking around, I get that. I have a little alternative, right? And there's a lot of ideas floating around up there. What if you lose, like if you lose on Wednesday, you have to stick around through Friday regardless and like play almost like a pro-am with the sponsor, whoever the sponsor wants to invite,
Starting point is 00:09:01 like you go, you have to go play. Like that's, it's a reverse pro am, right? You're eliminated, but you got $35,000 to show up, you go play a pro. Well, here's what I, here's the, right? Where should I go? Where should I go? I'm doing manual labor.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Like a digger trench or something. I'm down with that too. Super. Some tough as nails jobs. Yeah. I think a great idea, a friend from Boston sent me this. Sully, not Sully, but Sully. He said they should just do a new flight.
Starting point is 00:09:26 All right, so the round of 64, the losers from that, start their own flight, and let's say they play for a $300,000 purse or $400,000 purse. Love that. Winner take all. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Round of 32, losers from that, same thing.
Starting point is 00:09:43 And then you keep going, so there's matches going. I know all these guys would be beat to shit, or I mean, some of the guys would be beat to shit, but they'd still be playing for substantial amounts of money. And it'd kind of be like a, almost like a challenge. Sure. Yeah, I mean, gosh, I don't know. I really do think, because like I said,
Starting point is 00:10:00 it's gonna end up with not a lot of golf you can put at the end, you're counting on a great match. And if at seven matches, again, back to back 36 whole days over the weekend, like these dudes are wiped. I don't care how good a condition you are. It's a shot. It's a shot. The wind blows, the conditions are, you know, another factor.
Starting point is 00:10:16 It takes forever. Like the golf just is very rarely good at that point. There were some great golf playing the early parts of the week. I mean, the easier the course played, the more interesting the match is actually where. I mean, some of those holes are so great for match play. There's so much land movement. I love Austin Country Club. I think it's a perfect venue for this kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:10:34 There's so many interesting pin positions on those greens, so many the ball rolls out there, a lot of different creativity required in those shots and actual strategy in playing the holes. And that you can appreciate that when the guys are on and dialed. But as the week goes on, it just kind of slowly burns away. The other thing I think would be if there was a way to do this that we could have less pools or less pods,
Starting point is 00:11:01 and then there was a chance for, all right, we're gonna subjectively, the committee is gonna subjectively choose two guys that didn't advance, but they were in the strongest pods and then played their asses off. Some lucky losers. Yeah. I almost think like great like a gymnastics score. Like, you know what, you played great golf. You're in, you're through, you got a, you got an 18 points.
Starting point is 00:11:20 I know, these guys I didn't get through that went 20 and one. I, you know, I guess just trying to call's just right. I think he was the only one. We'll see the only one You know create a couple wild cards. I think you got $189,000 for that So I think you guys that didn't even advance from from pool play got so much money Got six figures. He got one for Brian Palmer got a hundred and forty four K for being the only person with 2.5 in group play and not advancing. And then the guys at two got like one one 13 700. Yeah. I mean, going through the groups like group one, Adam Long went toe to toe with DJ for 14 holes. They won. And then which I am totally in the can. I'm not in protect the stars camp. By the way, Adam Long going toe to toe with DJ is what I'm here for.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Exactly. Yeah. And then, but I think like some of that gets washed out or you kind of forget some of that, like how close the margins are, where I mean, like like long had a great look at going and then lost to 18 or lost on 18 on Friday to Macintyre who, who hit it to what, like, who could say.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Allegedly. They never showed it. Yeah. Like one of the best shots of the entire year thus far. But I mean, Adam Long is going to, is basically going out of group one. He's gonna advance if McIntyre doesn't nearly ace the 18th hole. Which I don't even think I've really, fully realized that.
Starting point is 00:12:41 And then like group two, that was all coach, coach just, coach was the only one that went, only one that fully realized that. And then, like, group two, that was all coach. Coach just... Coach was the only one that went, only one that made Final Four that was like undefeated up until today. So my final match losing that. Group three, Rob missed a seven footer on 18 to tie Palmer, and then one on the second playoff hole. I was blown away at how many guys,
Starting point is 00:13:00 how much carnage there was on number two. Bunch of guys, one with par on number number two like so many guys bogey to Group four bunch of certified killers. I thought that was Horseshole posting Homa and more kawa. Yeah, Horsesho was in that Friday afternoon playoff Max Homa and then go goes out and wins the match. Yeah, that was disappointed in calling not not a good showing But some some tough tests there in his group. I mean, post and beat the hell out of Horseshal on Thursday, you know, and then post and also put it in the water. But it was awesome. And then, and
Starting point is 00:13:37 then yeah, I mean, group five Fleetwood was a complete roller coaster, like watching him against Bryson. Bryson was like, you know, Tommy hit driver on 18 and then got up and down from like complete nowhere on that whole rosner beating. Bryson was sick. I believe you said last week, like who is Ants Juan, and Rosner? Yeah, no idea.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Still can't tell you anything about him. And then Scotty had trouble. We gotta talk about Bryson's match by record at some point. Yeah, over to you. It's bad. Which is strange because he won the USM and he won, you know, and he won NCAA. Yeah, of.
Starting point is 00:14:13 The Group 6, he had Sky Shuffle or Xander. There was a nutty finish on Friday with Xander and Scotty. But like Scotty didn't really close anybody out all week. Right, he was 102 in the, and then in the group play and advanced out of the playoff. The guy that, so group seven, Joaquin Neiman really had a tough time closing stuff out. He lost against Poseidon Hote on Wednesday
Starting point is 00:14:40 and then lost 14, 15, 16, and 18 to Thai Baba. And then he crushed the radio, it was five up after five on read. And then he went to play off with Baba, both of them buried the first, and then he missed a three footer on the second hole. That was tough, seeing. That was after Baba made like a 20 footer too.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Yeah. I think Group A was the group of death in retrospect. You had Sir, Jesus. Wallace, Hatton, and Westwood. Watching Neil had his, one of his par lays was the castanza, or the castanza play on the American House. The God save the Queen. Yeah. And he watching Neil grinds her that one. Wallace, you know, basically gives it away on 17 and then, and then comes back and almost holds out on 18.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Group nine kind of stunk. McKenzie Hughes wanted Taylor Guch was not good. Which I thought Webb was gonna assert himself in the right way. Like what? Something's going on with Webb right now. He's just a little off. Group 10, Harmon, I could have watched Brian Harmon play.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Like I go watch him play match play all day every day. It's awesome. Um, can't lay in Harmon on Wednesday was strong. And then, uh, group 11, cam Smith hunted down Lonto, won the last three there. Lonto folded, uh, and then can lost 16, 17 to Pulse and the legend of Pulse grows. Pulse. Pulse fire back at me on on Twitter this week. I called him out. He was putting, we're in the purple shirt on pink pants,
Starting point is 00:16:09 which I've literally tried to walk out the door with that. And my wife's been like, that does not go. It's the Easter button. You can't do that. And so I've posted a picture. I was like, yeah, I'm going to decline to ridicule him because on that screen, it showed his record as 3 and 0. I was like, if you win every match,
Starting point is 00:16:21 you can wear it the hell you want. He still was like, well, you know, I'm getting in the Easter spirit or something, little. He'll say so. He's a week early. Yeah. I thought Cam Smith was going to do something. I think he tied Rory with losing 18 and then didn't get into it with Pulse. Group 12, Fienaal, tough scene.
Starting point is 00:16:40 He got beat six and five by Fertelli. Co-Crak went all the way down the stretch on Salatores, birdied four of his last five by Fratelli. Co-crack went all in down the stretch on Salatoris. Birdied four of his last five to win one up. And then Finao Boggied his last two against Salatoris to tie, which was tough. Group 13 stunk. That was hobblend, laid an absolute egg against Strelman. And then he didn't play well against Whisperger.
Starting point is 00:17:00 And then it was just a pillow fight. Strelman advanced out of that after honest aid, missed a seven footer. Group 14, Birdger was just a pillow fight. Strillman advanced out of that after honest Abe missed a seven footer. Group 14, burger was vibing on Wednesday, beat Van Royen and there was a C Island pillow fight, Harris English and Brennan Todd with Harris English prevailing. Van Royen ended up advancing out of that one.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Speed overfits and Wolf over Connors on day one and group 15. And then, yeah, Corey Conor's didn't bring it, O and three, brutal. And then lastly, group 16. That was leash, Perez, Henley and Sungjae. And my lasting memory of that one is Perez hitting a nasty driver off the deck on Wednesday. And then kind of holstering it against Leish. Leish missed a six footer on 18 to put Henley away
Starting point is 00:17:52 and then that was kind of all she wrote. Perez was impressive all week. He was. He was also slow as shit. He was that as well. So I know another, there is another sport out there that does maybe a little bit better with the sudden death stuff if you'll bear with me for a second here. 68 teams started the tournament.
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Starting point is 00:19:24 So I've never done that live, well, we're gonna talk to him F1 later, but watching, lap by lap. I'm super curious what that looked like today, it's absolutely. And like, for Stappen was the favorite still, even trailing Hamilton coming down the stretch, it was really, really fascinating to watch.
Starting point is 00:19:38 I wish we could play here in Florida, because that would have been all over Hamilton. Real quick, just looking to it. Brian Hormann made it, Eat Birdies in a row. That was sick. That match was bubble. It's bubble.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Awesome. Yeah. That was so good. Bubba seems to, kind of somewhat rounding into form, which is a little bit concerning. But yeah, that, that, this course was set up so well for like half-par holes, right? Yeah. Which there's going to be winning hole. It wasn't a survival of the fittest. It was, you know, go out and get birdies, make stuff happen. But you, same time, it wasn't all the shots had the consequences you're looking for out of a shot.
Starting point is 00:20:09 And there's a ton of variety in the lies. Like, there's a, it's still early enough in the season. I think it's a kind of a, a Bermuda, Zoyja hybrid or mix. And there's just a lot of squirrely lies. There's a lot of barrel lies around there. With the firmness and the ball running out as much as it did. That was interesting. But bummed to see Coach playing well. I thought he was leaving our lives. Randy, once you tell us you tweeted something about, I think your only thing I saw you tweet
Starting point is 00:20:36 all weekend was you being in, way in on Horseshal, take us there. Oh, I loved watching Billy today. TC and I were watching it. He is throwing off strong American psycho vibes to me. It just, everything about him is so, I tweet said it's just overwrought. It's just turned up to a million. All his little mannerisms, just his whole deal, right?
Starting point is 00:20:59 Anytime he talks, he's just this like nervous, intense like ball of stress. Hyper aware. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, talks, he's just this like nervous, intense, like ball of stress. Hyper aware. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know, it was kind of fun just, I felt more of like a boy you're watching him today. I felt like I was at the zoo watching some animals
Starting point is 00:21:17 like natural habitat. It was quite a thrill. So yeah, all in on Billy Ho. It is super uncomfortable to watch him like get into a shot. Like it's just very procedural. It's like kind of back forth. I don't even know how to describe. It's like an erector set almost like kind of falling into it. And then he executes what's like the most, I'm not a swinging expert, but what appears to be like the most technically sound, like if I can draw up a way to swing a club, it's not to get it all the way back
Starting point is 00:21:44 like he does and just swing it with the body, the club never gets out of position and he hits it very, very, very straight. It seems extremely repeatable. So he's got, obviously got something going on. The way that he rotates is aspirational. I mean, it's really, really nice. Like the technical aspect of watching Horseshal
Starting point is 00:22:00 up against Sheffler who was just, you know, as Fautos, still trying to figure out his footwork, you know, through impact. And like something like that was the difference this afternoon and when they got super fatigued, the guy that was way more, I would say, just fundamentally sound outlasted the guy who was kind of relying on a lot of athleticism,
Starting point is 00:22:21 is that fair to say? Yeah, totally. I think Billy had some really bad misses. So like the one on the par five that he airmailed into the back bunker there. And then just some little wedges. Really were the most egregious. It's just you stop.
Starting point is 00:22:36 I think it, but like that speaks to Austin Country Club, right? Earlier in the day when he was in the playoff, he was playing that whole and all he was it today, I guess you don't even remember, he's playing that 12th hole, and all he needed to do was make par and fleet what was out of bounds.
Starting point is 00:22:51 And he struggled to make par, like he had a bad lag putt, and I think he kind of played it too conservatively. And this time around, yeah, Sheffler's in the water, but Sheffler went out and made five out of that. And he probably knew Sheffler could make five easily, get that up and down after going on the water.
Starting point is 00:23:07 So he's still got to try to make birdie, right? And he's, you know, not, it was not a gimmie, just hit the middle of the green two putt, and you, you know, you're going to have the whole, which, I don't remember how that actually, I think they both bogeyed it actually, but it's still, it was a possibility that, uh, that sheffler was going to get that up and down. And when the wind's gusting that much, I guess suit you could. Yeah, I know they took forever. I know people are all over and for it myself included.
Starting point is 00:23:28 But like when there's that much shit going on, elevation change wise winds swirling and gusting and like balls reacting differently in the wind. Yeah, but you're going to miss in some bad spots that are like looking embarrassing like how the hell do you miss there? But like in person, I bet if you're there, you'd be like, yeah, it's super easy to get like the winds slightly wrong. I just thought it was like Randy was saying today you'd be like, yeah, it's super easy to get like the win slightly wrong.
Starting point is 00:23:45 I just thought it was like Randy was saying today, he's like, they need a shot clock. We're like waiting out the gusts or trying to time the gusts. I mean, it was, because Scott is my guy, but he was very, very slow. It was just, I don't know what, is it Pepto Bismol that advertises for instant relief for whatever it was?
Starting point is 00:24:04 That was Scottie just aiming at tents. And then before even got to the ball, there's a tour official there. Like you get full relief right here, edge of the fair. The one on 15 was absurd. They're aggressive, they're aggressive grandstands though. Incorporate tents. And the one down, is it on 16?
Starting point is 00:24:21 The one down the right side? 15 on the left side where he hit his two-shot. But even, like, it's not in play, but it's just kind of sticking out on the- Judging out into the line of play. But yeah, I mean, shit, the one's like- 13. Neal's out of town, he's on the pod this way.
Starting point is 00:24:35 He would be furious. He hates TIO relief. I mean, shit, the one that Scotty hit, and it was under the tarp in the courtyard of the hospitality area. You got the drop of like, friendly edge of the fairway. Yeah, you was under the tarp in the courtyard of the hospitality. You got the drop of like, friendly edge of the fairway. Yeah, you get to come over here in the fairway.
Starting point is 00:24:49 What the fuck? I feel like tournament golf, you should make that stuff part of the course. Totally. You know, if you're gonna have it, make a part of the course. Ah, yeah, I don't, that seems like a liability. I mean, like, like the one that he just bailed
Starting point is 00:25:04 the three wood straight into the tent and then get, I mean, like, like the one that he did he just bailed the three wood straight into the tent and then get, you know, granted, he drops on kind of a bear lie and all that. But even then, like, it takes all the strategy out of the hole, just blast the one up there as far as you can down the right. And it's dangerous too. They get all the benefits, though, of like, a tournament setup with spotters and even fans being able to find your ball, all that stuff. Like you got to take a little, little of the bat with the good.
Starting point is 00:25:29 They made grandstands in place. If they made a one-shot penalty, guys would not be over there nearly as often as they are. Which that would be interesting. That's the edge of, and it's now what you've defined as the edge of the golf hole, right? I mean, it's in course OB or whatever you want to call it, which I'm not a huge fan of,
Starting point is 00:25:44 but like you want to put grandstands there. That's now the edge of your hole in my picture. It's not even like OB. It's just straight up like, yo, it's there. Deal with it, right? Yeah. Right. Yeah. It's something, something smelly there, if you will. I did want to shout out, Billi's on a nice little money run here at the WGC's. Obviously winning the match play finished tied for second at concession earlier this year and then Top 10 last year
Starting point is 00:26:11 He's you know He seems like he's he's a streaky player He's a streaky player and he seems like he's on the come-up like it it seems like he's getting very involved in some Some of the larger events so somebody to keep an eye on, I think, as the year progresses. I give him a hell of a lot of credit. Like, I don't particularly like him. I think he's chatty, Kathy. I think he's, he's, he's exhausting to watch.
Starting point is 00:26:34 He wears me out, but to be that, Oh, nice, great. To be that consistent, and that, that, like just, to work that hard and be that diligent about your routine and your habits, I think Neil and I watched him for probably 20 minutes on the range at Sawgrass. And it was exhausted after watching him for 20 minutes on the range. It was just methodical and just so antsy and so much energy there.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Yeah, I don't know. I mean, of all people, I think, you know, he's the biggest cheerleader for Pana Viedra here in HQ and just the standard bear for the tour. So it's, you know, maybe other than Rory. So it's just ironic to see him cleaning up in WGC's. I think too, like we can, we can, on the Shaffler node,
Starting point is 00:27:23 it's easy to look at the final match and have that be the lasting thought. But what he played such great golf this week, just a viscerated ROM and the huge takeaway of course is that he made it to the finals of the match play. And it's somebody tweeted it at striker, like, hey, I hope you're watching, you know, Sheffler right now. And he quote retweeted it. Like, oh, I'm definitely watching. So I think, yeah, we have some writer cup stuff we do want to talk about. Victor Perez, Darcy Rossinger, sorry, I'm way late getting to questions,
Starting point is 00:27:50 says does Sali want to rethink the Perez as an OWGR manipulator take or no? Absolutely not. We'll not rethink that position. It's not, we don't have to relitigate this. But like, it wouldn't be a noteworthy performance. If like deep down people, I got a lot of tweets about the Victor Perez manipulation.
Starting point is 00:28:13 If you really with that confident in his standing, like this wouldn't even be that noteworthy performance. Like he should, if he's that great of a player, if the ranking say is that great of a player, he should be up there more often, right? I mean, he is obviously an extremely good player. He's probably going to be on the Ryder Cup team. He has a lot of good results on the European tour. I mean, there's almost no one that has a bigger gap in like their Strokes game data and their official World Golf Ranking and Victor Perez. And that's
Starting point is 00:28:34 not his fault. That's absolutely not his fault. He's playing the tournaments that he gets into and playing well at them, but it's also trending. I mean, like taking out the players, taking out the second at the BNW PGA last year, which is the manipulation world series. See another crime. He was seventh in the seventh and Dubai at the year of Torrent finale, which I'm getting like, I'll give that. It's fair. It's not getting the boost that the BNW PGA is. Yeah. And he got, and finishing second is like one of the ultimate boost. He was T4 at the bone saw. Sure. And then he was T94 at the bone saw. Sure.
Starting point is 00:29:05 And then he was T-9 at the players and then, you know, top four this week. So, I mean, that's some good playing on some best stages. The whole point about the manipulation is that you can route yourself towards the top of the world without going head to head against the top goal. It's the way that he got there. Yeah, not the fact that he's played well since he's there. Correct. And it's not that he's not capable. In any way, I think people take such great offense
Starting point is 00:29:27 to this every time I mention it, and that is not the intention at all. I love to have him on the pot. I think he'd be an interesting. I had dinner with him last year when he was in town for the players. He seems like a delightful lad. He's a unit.
Starting point is 00:29:38 He doesn't swing with a glove though, because that's got a, that costs him a lot of points in my book. I don't understand how any of that works. I think he's gonna throw the club. That should be extra respect. Like guys like Streb and him should be. Ah, I just, I truly don't get it.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Just too much trepidation for me. Truly don't get it. It's interesting. He's never, he only has one Euro to a victory. I would, you know, for being a top 35 player in the world, you would expect coming on board, Randy. You'd expect a few more. Yeah, I'm, I'm saying something stinks. I'm, I might be with you here.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Okay, a lot, a lot, a lot of Ryder Cup chatter this week. And first of all, one of them remind everyone that the Ryder Cup is six months away. And of course, another partner of the Ryder Cup is a partner of ours, BMW. This segment, Ryder Cup segment, we're moving this up towards the top of the show. We have a lot of Ryder Cup questions that we got and we're going to get through as many of them as we can i'm a start the discussion with this did this week change anything for you guys in terms of what you guys are thinking for the writer cup who should be on either team the u.s. team or the european team did anything change this week
Starting point is 00:30:40 i think robber mac and tire should absolutely on the european team the care whether it be captain's pick or whatnot, I think he's a bright young star and then you need to nurture the hell out of them. The pride of Scotland. You need a good Scottish golfer on the Ryder Cup. Where do you think Robert McIntyre, like what would you say is American comparison in terms of like Strokes Gain data is? Who do you think he stacks
Starting point is 00:31:05 at one spot above? No idea. Like our friend Max Homa maybe. Patton Kazir, Aaron Wise, Richie Brinsky. All right, where are you pulling this straight? That's from Data Golf. But is it pulling in? Put his A.J.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Events or is that Euro? Is that a limit of sample? That's from data golf. But is that just a PJ events or is that euro is that all his events and all of his events that he plays in. Okay. I mean, that's fine. I'm going to he passes the eye test for me. I think it seems like he's a gamer and I think part of the fun of the rider cup is finding out who you know, who rises above what the bear numbers say, right? And who has on a stage like that, either who has, you know, it is a little cliche, but it's a stage where guys can certainly make a name for themselves and display it more than their week to week stats might indicate.
Starting point is 00:32:02 He's definitely got a pretty inconsistent record, I think, over the last year, year and a half, but you're talking about a guy that won the Aphrodite Hill so I'm gonna show that. I was waiting for that. I mean, so the third, but how do you decide to do it? I'd do a soundby,
Starting point is 00:32:15 at the Dubai Desert Classic, T29 at the bone saw. Okay. Other than that, you know, he played well, it kind of some seasoning and any events in 2019. But yeah, I mean, I, you know, I think his best golf is ahead of him. I just, I just like his game and it seems like he's kind of a bulldog. That's where I think captains should, I think part of the fun or how I would think of the Ryder Cup as being fun is trying to cultivate a team.
Starting point is 00:32:43 And you look at a guy like Robert McIntyre who you want to be a part of and a big part of future Ryder Cup versions of Team Europe. And I would rather be a year early on picking him or two years early as it is with the Ryder Cup than having to wait two years late. Yeah, I think it's easy to extrapolate out his game. He's super young.
Starting point is 00:33:04 And I think too, it's also to extrapolate out his game. He's super young and I think too. It's also interesting to see these guys play. I mean, for a lot of these guys, this is their first extended time playing in the States. And I think that's a really underrated element of judging these European players. Like, you're playing a long way from home on different style of golf, especially for you guys that grew up in Scotland. I think there's something to be said for that. Where I was kind of going with this week changing anything, it really, it's hard for me to get super hyped about results six months out in a different time of year
Starting point is 00:33:37 on a different golf course in a very different format than the Ryder Cup. And I feel like a lot of people I read on Twitter are shot by shot changing their Ryder Cup. Like the most overused thing I hear is, so and so's got to be a lock, right? Kisters got to be a lock for the team. Like, do we understand what the word lock means, right?
Starting point is 00:33:55 I don't know who I'm actually locking in. Like so much can happen over the next six months. I mean, you could convince me five months from now that Dustin Johnson couldn't be on the team. Like if he is battling some injuries and comes in just playing like shit and doesn't have a great Ryder Cup record to begin with, like, and has sometimes had questionable energy
Starting point is 00:34:12 around him at the Ryder Cup, like, should he be a lock? I would not say so if that's the case, but like, if he comes in hot, obviously, I think that makes a lot of sense. And I'm just amazed at people's willingness to, I don't see this week as a tiebreaker when it comes down to deciding the team five months from now.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Is that fair to say? But I do think if there's a guy that you're not all that sure about or you're looking for something from any punches above his weight, like Bob McIntyre did this week, that feels like, you know, but I think it's gonna be super interesting for the Euros.
Starting point is 00:34:42 I can't think of a guy whose game seems to fit whistling straights worse than Matt Fitzpatrick. That's, I think that's gonna be a shock, like a very, very interesting one to follow if he's on the edge on the world points or the European points. And that's what I think people have not put the proper weight and how the US is gonna set up this golf course.
Starting point is 00:35:01 I mean, we can talk about the Kevin Knaud, Dustin Johnson, Dust Up. People are like, did not just cost himself a ride or cup of spots. Like, this setup is gonna be the antithesis of what Nau would thrive on. Like, they are going to steer into, like JB Holmes is more likely to be picked than Kevin Nau
Starting point is 00:35:15 because they are gonna set this thing up with no rough, they're gonna put the pins in the middle of the greens and they're gonna make it a birdie fest and just a bomb fest. It's crazy. And. Okay, so staying on this topic, switch into the American side. Or are we done with Team Euro?
Starting point is 00:35:29 I mean, I would say just going back to Team Europe and like who fits that style of play on the European side, I would say it's probably like, I would look for Martin Kimer to start trending here soon. Thomas Peters played well down in Puntacana this week. He seems to be like kind of continually on the bubble there. You're a Ryder Cup team is shaping up extremely nicely right now. I mean the top of Fleetwood Hatton, Rom, Rory, and then you flip over to the world list. You have Westwood, Perez, Kasey, Havlin, Fitzpatrick. So that none of that includes Sergio, Willett, Macintyre, Shane Lowry, G. Mack, Cabrera, Bayo, Justin Rose. Yeah, it's preses on there in the world points.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Like, their top nine is extremely solid and that doesn't even include Sergio and Sergio has ball striking right now is just absurd. So, yeah, European, Europe is, I'm not trying to make the case at all of the Europe is not looking great. Does team Rose make the team? I don't, I would think so. Probably. Um, we'll see. I mean, we'll probably see one TV anyway. Um, but so Shane Ryan sent it, sent it into question.
Starting point is 00:36:33 He says, one, I'm arguing a lot about lately. Should striker pay attention to what happened here? If we get a situation where someone like Sheffler or Horseshal sits around 10 to 12 in the standings, come September in form. And the picks aren't obvious. I think that alludes to your question as well, Randy. Honestly, I think it's you, you could use it absolutely to support your case for why you want to pick a horshural or chefler, but I don't think it's, it's six months. It'll be, it would have been six months ago, where so much has changed.
Starting point is 00:37:01 I just don't put that much stock in this event specifically. But that being said, like, if I'm trying to make a pick that might piss some people off, then I would use the match play in my favor if I want to pick Shephler. Like, you know, I don't know. I do want to say number 21 in the American Ryder Cup standings. I think has to be a lock. I've seen enough.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Jordan. Speed. Speed. Yeah think has to be a lock. I've seen enough. Jordan. Speed. Yeah. For sure. For sure. Another question we got, which was from Crenshaw in Texas, 12 Ryder Cup spot us down to Speed or Sheffler,
Starting point is 00:37:33 who are you taking today? You're saying Speed. Oh, for sure. I would take Speed over probably all but two people on the US team. He's got a lot of love. These games seem so malleable too. I don't know, I'm super curious. The guy like Jason Kochrack seems like a great fit
Starting point is 00:37:51 for Whistling straights. I don't hate it all. There's gonna be some like weird, weird fits. Like what are you looking at for the bell weather? For like what courses or venues are you looking at Kioa? I don't know. I don't think so. Again, I think this is gonna be a heavily manipulated setup, right?
Starting point is 00:38:07 It's not gonna be, like they're gonna put these T's exactly where it's like Fienau and DJ and Keppka can all clear the bunkers and someone like Fitzpatrick probably couldn't. Like that's the whole thing is gonna be, I would hope, be thought out like that, especially after what you're up to in France. What is Scummy? Oh, look at what Europe did in France. Are you scummy scummy. Oh, look at what Europe did in France. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:38:26 What, they set the course up hard? They made it like 15 yard wide fairways with ankle deep breaths. That's sick. It's proper golf. That's that proper golf. So that, this whole thing just goes to like, yo, this read thing we do not need. We do not need it come September. The US has so much depth.
Starting point is 00:38:44 You know, read Fienau Berger, Simpson, Cantlay, Hare's English Max, Co-Crack Wolf, Kisner, Horseshoe, Speed, all in Sheffler, all not in the top six as of right now. If Brooks can't play, do they go down the list or is that an extra captain's pick? If a guy is injured and can't play? I think it's an extra captain's pick.
Starting point is 00:39:03 It is if it's qualification. Okay. Brooks is is according to Brad Faxx and he made comments that Brooks's injury might be a lot more serious than he had originally led on. But the last thing I have to say is Finau, I've absolutely seen enough of Finau after this. I agree. I will leave him off the team's on the happily. He's definitely on the team. I agree. He's a lot off the team. He's on the happily. He's definitely on the team. I agree. He's a lot, I guess, if you will. Again, and it's gonna, people are gonna do this
Starting point is 00:39:30 and it is a common thing of like just going right down the points list. I challenge people at every stop I can to like look how silly the points list is made up. It's so, it just, it doesn't evaluate the best players. It's an accumulation system. It's spanning such a long period of time now. It's very random, which events get rewarded
Starting point is 00:39:48 and play well in a few weeks and it oversaturates your point total. And I just don't, whatever. It's gonna do a good decent job of finding the top six guys and I'm fine with that. But don't just like read seven through 12 and assume like that's who the best players will be. Come match play in October and September,
Starting point is 00:40:05 you know, under the lights in the most pressure pack situation. Are you leaving Kizmer off the team? Yeah, with this course set up, I would. I mean, you probably made a lot of sense for France, but like, they're gonna, they're gonna set the course up so that like they have to fix certain players. They're gonna gerrymandate that much. I know. I mean, I'm scared of that though, honestly.
Starting point is 00:40:23 I mean, it's not out of merit. It's not out of match play record that I would say, no, it's like truly form. It's just truly how they're probably going to likely set it up. At some point, like, doesn't that kind of suck though? It should, the team should not be in control of set up. I have said this in the way before France happened, way before Hazel team happened, like, it's kind of silly. If you want a good competitive event, this is not the way to do it. On the flip side, the European tour should, or the European team should absolutely be able to set the course up.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Sure. However they want in the president's cup. So if you had to go off the board and make a pick that doesn't seem obvious, like, where are you leaning right now? The eighth guy on the standings, Tony Fee now. That's where I'm leaving without the board. Now, like, if I was going off the board, off the board being outside the top of 15.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Yeah, Sheffler at 22, like, hit Sheffler's, like, raw data and everyone, you can make fun of me for all that all you want. Like, his, look at what the, what would the market say? What would Vegas say about these guys near the top, right? They would go off of, like, their, constant ability to get the ball in the hole. They're Stroke's game data, right? And Sheffler at 22 on this points list, this is before it updates today, and being the 15th ranked Stroke's game player in the world, according to data golf, like there's a huge, that is exposing the gap in this point's
Starting point is 00:41:37 creation system, right? But if Vegas is going to sit there and tell you that this guy is one of the best golfers in the world, and that's somebody that I would consider way off the board in points that Vegas is telling you a very, very different story. I'll tell you who's my off the board guy. I know he's, you know, if he for team chemistry, but his Bubba. 31st in the rankings, but look at his... I'd listen to it.
Starting point is 00:41:58 I would listen to it with this setup. I mean, France didn't make any sense, but I think he actually went to in one in France, but that did not make it one little bit of sense, but dude, you know, with he won the Fricking PGA there. Yeah. Right? Or no, he said, sorry, finished second to in the playoffs, he lost a Kimer, but like, he essentially won that there. I think that would make a lot of sense. What about a guy like Matthew Wolf? That's where I would say, if I'm the czar of like Matthew Wolf. That's where I would say if I'm the Zara of US president's cup golf, this is a guy that I think is going to be an
Starting point is 00:42:29 important part of our next, let's say five to six writer cup teams. Hopefully, I would take him on US soil two years early, break him in at home. So he's ready to go in 2023 back over in Europe. If we can get a little bit of form, I mean, he's coming off some of the worst form and kind of just trillers withdrawn with. Just to me, he plays some decent golf this summer. His body language sucked this week too. Yeah, it's something still not quite right there.
Starting point is 00:42:56 I'm with you. I'm more in lines of more cow. Like I think, I mean, I think he's probably in on points right now. He's in the right now, but those are the type of guys I would love for them to air on kind of a wink and nod towards the future. Then seeing Kiznur and Kutur and guys that are like, God, like we don't have to reward you for the last four years. Like that's already happened. Let's look forward. I I'm starting to think all the task for stuff and you know, basing all this stuff off of the thing. It's all bullshit, right? I mean, at some point, like, all that shit, all that stuff's bullshit.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Of course, of course. I think listening to Hunter Mayhan talk about it was, it was the most it's ever made sense to me in terms of like, how Zinger rolled the balls out and told those guys, go have fun. Like, go have fun with this week. And I don't feel like any other captain treats it that way. They treat it as this is the most important golf
Starting point is 00:43:48 you're ever gonna play in your life. Like, we expect to win. Like, how come we win this? Let's go win this. Like, how do we win this? People are kind of us to win it. What chance do you have to play great golf when you're under that kind of pressure?
Starting point is 00:43:56 Well, I think that's, that's where it was zinger, but I feel like even like the task force all the rest of these guys, after the task force do treat it like that. Exactly. Yeah, like they've not followed this, you know, you know, free, I don't know. There's no freedom in what they do. Or looking at grooming future captains.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Like the fact that DL3 is the captain for the president's cup at Quill Hollow, like, get the fuck out of here. Here's no vision for any. There's no imagination. That's part of my problem. That, and that speaks to a lot of the captain picks we've seen. Speaking though, I will speak abo, size of my mouth. I would absolutely in a heartbeat
Starting point is 00:44:27 take Phil Mikkelson on the writer cup. Oh my God. Just for entertainment product. Your entertainment product. Come on. Anything else from WGC this week? Any other notes? I mean, we didn't get to Sergio's walkoff ace
Starting point is 00:44:40 against Lee Westwood that caused me some draft Kings points. That one heard a little bit. Tommy Fleetwood had an ace on the same hold. I think Fleetwood will lament this one. For a while, I think Tommy was playing really, really good golf. He had some weird shots down the stretch and a couple of his matches, not to mention the one he hit OB.
Starting point is 00:45:01 The playoff there. I mean, he kind of extrapolate that out into some of his career Yeah, no performances, which is what scary some of it. I mean, maybe is it like do this Tommy need to start going by Tom And the skydiving start going by Scott Ricky Yeah, Ricky when he Billy hit 30. I'm a father of a kid named Freddie like I may start calling him Fred Just to get out ahead of this. Yeah, how many wins is Horseshal have to have before he becomes Bill Horseshal? William, huh?
Starting point is 00:45:28 William, huh. Yeah. Question we got, we almost missed this one. JD, Coleman, 74. Was Kevin not being a jerk, either call it, or keep quiet, his comments serve no purpose? I agree, like either be, like either just mention something on the next tee, or play it by a letter
Starting point is 00:45:45 of law. So here's what happened. He wanted his cake and wanted to have it. I disagree. Randy, where do you? Well, let's set up what happened first. DJ Mrs. Uplight leaves it to six inches and DJ waxed it away before Nal has a chance to say it's good and Nal has a three footer left to tie the hole. That's the scenario. So, do you, Randy, where do you stand? Where did you stand on this? Um, I loved it. I think it was a class act, mentoring a younger player in the moment. I couldn't have been,
Starting point is 00:46:12 it was just so great to see. I'm the whole hand on the shoulder thing. It was a little much, right? It was, but like it came from like DJ, like not even bothering, like listening to it. He's trying to explain to him. Which is sick. It is, but I'm team Nah here because,
Starting point is 00:46:27 and this may be very different of what I said when this happened to Allison Lear, whatever, because that, it's different in this scenario, right? And it is like, you don't, DJ put Nah on that situation, right? DJ broke the rule, and even though it was obvious, Gimmi, that's technically just putting Nah on a heart spot. And he said after, he's like,
Starting point is 00:46:44 I didn't want to be standing up the three footer thinking about that, that happened. So he just said to him, like, why don't we call this a tie? I don't want the win, call it a tie. They probably didn't think the cameras would be all over it and there'd be a big dramatic story. But he could have gotten, he could have won the hole
Starting point is 00:46:58 with it if he wanted to. He technically could have, but kind of said to DJ, like, I don't want to put this right now, but you just broke a rule and like, now it's in my head, like, let's just move on. Like, this is probably what would have happened, but I don't even wanna risk losing this hole right now. I get it, I mean, that's a tough spot,
Starting point is 00:47:13 but I guess I just look at everything that Kevin Nod does through the limbs of like, he's like a thirsty drama queen. There's almost no chance on, if this scenario was flipped, that this would have happened. DJ would have never cared. Like this one, like it's so funny that it happened with these two where, you know, and Kevin Nal was had no chance to move forward. He still had some money he could have
Starting point is 00:47:36 earned, but in Fowda was just like flabbergast. He's like, he's got nothing to play for. Why is he even doing this, which I kind of disagree with. But again, I mean, I guess that's protecting the field that it's gonna be right. How old do you think Nause? Well, I know. I was 37, 38. He's 37, DJ's 36. Kevin Nause got such an interesting career.
Starting point is 00:47:59 That's what I'm talking about. He's a fascinating dude. And I get, it's way too much a lot of times, but I do, there's a big part of me that I like Kevin off. There's just so much of it that seems like disingenuous or hyper aware of the exposure and the... I think how he looks. I think he's just kind of sort of, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:24 I think he's just rebranded himself a little bit from this super slow dude to like, which I'm kind of funny and like walk it in guy. And I don't, I don't know. I, I'm down with all of the tea to me, but like, and I want to respect, because I was kind of coming around on him after. I felt like that took a lot of stones to regroup
Starting point is 00:48:41 from not being able to pull the trigger. Yeah. At, at, at, at TBC Sawgrass, you know, I mean shit, what was that five, six years ago now? That was 2012, I think, or maybe 2011, something like that. So yeah, I mean almost 10 years ago, and I mean the fact that the guys never lost his card. Oh, it's amazing.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Since you know, Perez and Paul are like, some of the wildest, wildest possible careers. But I think he's just kind of deeply uncool. With, yeah. You could say that about a lot of golfers. Yeah. That's, yeah. That's true.
Starting point is 00:49:12 It's fair to say, but anything else, I think, you know, we have some notes here and we kind of covered a lot of the Austin Country Club stuff. I thought the setup was really good. I thought for the most part, I decide from the hospitality tents. How are you playing 18 if you? I think it depends on the pin. I think they did kind of a shitty job explaining it for the most part of siphon, the hospitality tense. How are you playing 18? If you... I think it depends on the pin.
Starting point is 00:49:26 I think they did kind of a shitty job explaining it for the most part of the week. I think a lot of people, I got a lot of tweets like, 18's a shitty closing hole. I'm like, to a back pin, it kind of is. But like that front pin with speed and culture was super interesting. I had so much fun watching it.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Yeah. Yeah. The pins, man, I mean, it's just, it's so awkward and it's like playing plinco down there down the right side. Yeah, it's a truly good line. It's a total luck down there. It's a total rub of the green down there. And then it's the most awkward uphill blind 35, 40 yard shot up that hill.
Starting point is 00:49:57 It's so good for a match play. Yeah. If a stroke play tournament was ending on that hole, I think it'd be very different. But it's like, hey, dude, go both. You go play this part three and a half. You can figure out any way you want to make a three, but you play tournament was ending on that hole, I think it'd be very different, but it's like, hey, dude, go both. You guys play this part three and a half. You can figure out any way you want to make a three, but you kind of got to make a three here if you want to win the hole. And if you make four, you probably lose the hole.
Starting point is 00:50:12 That's cool. That's fun. Like, that's what makes a really good match play hole. And I was surprised. So like, Speed and Coacher, when they got to it, they, you know, they were in the book for there for a while, trying to figure out what to do. And Speed hit driver, but didn't get it all the way to the upslope. And his pitch was way harder than Kuchers.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Kuchers just flopped it right up there and hit it close and won the match. And I thought I was the deciding moment. So I thought that was sweet. I will say that the drive that Scottie hit this on at the end of the morning earlier today was so like that kind of step through super low bullet runner. It was awesome. Yeah, God, that 17s a while hold a watch. There's some really good par threes that kind of funnel some funnel pins out there, I think maybe too much for your liking.
Starting point is 00:50:53 No, no, I don't have as much of a problem in match play. Okay. Where it's just, you know, hey, one group, it's both guys have an opportunity. It's, I don't know. It didn't bother me as much this week. Yeah, and I think the other big takeaway is just like Sergio was hitting it, concerning well, really, really good two weeks ahead of the masters.
Starting point is 00:51:12 I'm done with his whole deal. It's too much. Take, take all of that away. Well, and you know, obviously, and, you know, just always saying hi to the kids, just I don't need it, Sergio. Take, Sergio. Take that on along down the road. I feel like he threw off your home game models too. I know, they, yeah. Your home game models were a mess this week with Sergio and fertility and Scotty and speed. I know.
Starting point is 00:51:38 All sorts of fake, fake Austinites, right? Which, maybe are the real Austinites. Maybe that's the lesson. Do you guys want to do Bryson NFTs next? Or Corralis? Corralis kind of snuck up on us. Let's do Corralis. Let's give it a good morning, Joel Damon.
Starting point is 00:51:53 PGA Tour winner and his 114th start. Awesome celebration at the end. And just the true like gut wrench. I don't want to try to convince people like, oh, opposite field events are so much better than WGC's, but only time I felt something all week was watching him and Rafael Compos play the 18th hole today. They mean a whole hell of a lot.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Same shit. Same with Brandon Grace's wind down in Puerto Rico. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I think I was gutted for Rafael Compos. I do want to say like he had some of the worst outfits I've ever seen this week. But I thought that putt was Dead Center. We went out.
Starting point is 00:52:32 We blew it out. He thought it was Dead Center, I think, every day. I think we both gasped. I mean, we both thought it was in. He had just the big high five ready. That was amazing. It like affected, I'm super happy for Joel,
Starting point is 00:52:44 who's been a great contributor to our podcast and it's been awesome dude to us. And like it honestly affected my enjoyment for Joel like that lip out. I was like, yeah, it's so gutted for, I have no relationship with Rafa Campos, but it just felt so bad. But for Joel, that emotion pouring out after he won
Starting point is 00:53:01 and just saying that loud, like it's so hard to win a golf tournament being in tears. His wife run on the green screaming, and he's not an old guy, like it's not, he's somewhat of a journeyman, 114 PGA Tour Start, that's not counting like corn fairy tour, Canadian tour, like all the shit that goes into being a pro
Starting point is 00:53:18 for many, many, many, many years, for your one chance to win a tournament and to execute it with an incredible shot into 18 with a long iron, I don't know what it was, but every time I flipped over to that broadcast this week, the win was absolutely whipping and to survive that for 72 holes and to win hats off to him. I mean, think about he's 33 Kevin Nas four years older, but think about the arc of Kevin Nas career. How many years he's been out on tour versus Joel Damon, like finally feeling like, all right, I can exhale a little bit, right?
Starting point is 00:53:46 I also want to give a shout out to the winner outfit that they give him. It's amazing. The white shirt. Groupo Corralis. They had that guy on the broadcast. I watched a lot of that broadcast. That's a really hard 18th hole. Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:01 It shows like, it was easy last year though, like the wind was totally different. That course shows really cool on TV I don't I honestly can't tell if it's a good course or whatnot from TV But it it shows expansively and there's some really cool ocean holes And it's just fun to watch on TV. I enjoy a lot of short grass around the greens a lot of weird grainy chips and just I saw I mean some of the shots coming down the strips those dudes were coming up 30 yard short into the win That was tough tough to watch that Michael giglet I think they cut to commercial he he came up short on
Starting point is 00:54:32 We switched we switched back to the match play and we saw him hitting his partner. We like oh my god What happened out of the chip? Yeah, she's Yeah, he bogey I think 16 and 18 to lose or to finish behind by two. The tour tweeted out, the letter that Geno Benelli sent to Joel, like when he got his corn fairy status or web status, like asking to be as caddy, like it's intense of like, I don't think he understands how much I love golf.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Like I don't care how this affects me financially. I want to caddy for you. I'll work the hardest of anyone blah, blah, blah. And it was super cool to see like the two of their emotions after winning and stuff. So I'm sure, what a great shout too. Said the boys, Mesa, Cudrick up, open up the tab. I'll be home in a week.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Damon's the best, Betty. Like, is he really gonna show up at Valero this week? And play? Like I feel like he should just fly home at night, right? Well, I mean, I think he's played some decent golf hungover before in the past, right? So when I kind of an uncharacteristic, he hasn't played very well this season.
Starting point is 00:55:35 I took him a few weeks in a row on the beginning of the West Coast swing and he was super, super cold, like not really his style. So it's good to see him find some form. I got two more things from Austin too, which we got about Scotty kind of getting crowned by that little lip of grass. Oh yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:55:53 And then the tour, the tour, or the tournament tweeting out earlier this week, like the best, or like the most beautiful back nine and all of golf period. Do you see that? Did they delete it? I don't think so. They got roasted pretty good though.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Interesting. I don't know. I don't know. That's a very much nobody, PGA tour. Oh, hold on. And it was so, it was so, like, you know, firm and frantic. It's definitive. Yeah, like this is it.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Period point blank. I, uh, to, to, to good morning, Damon, uh, I'm already dreading the coverage that we're gonna get over the whole summer. He's gonna join the Max Homa crew of like, you know, this guy is good at social media, you know, pretty active on social media. Wouldn't believe he's actually a great interview.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Like, we're just now discovering this. He's very interesting, dude. Joel Damon, you know, he's won for social media. Great Twitter follow. The fact that he won without a bucket today, I think it was too windy. Anyway, he switched to the baseball hat with a few holes to go,
Starting point is 00:56:58 which I think when he started going back into the win, that was his, yeah, these boys are pumped up. I'm gonna have to take this a little seriously. Big win for the troops. Yes, salute the win. That was his yet. Things. Oh, these boys are pumped up. I'm gonna have to take this a little seriously. Big win for the troops. Yes. Salute the troops. And Billy Ho, you know, former true one for the, he's a veteran, one for the discharge troop.
Starting point is 00:57:15 On the LPGA tour, we has not closed out yet. They're on the 18th holes. We says MB Park has a five shot lead over Lexi Thompson at Aviyara, the key at classic. I feel like it's been over for quite a while now. Three and a half hours. I mean, I guess it's been over since the second or third hole today. She's been on cruise control.
Starting point is 00:57:32 We had mentioned at the top of the show a shout out to Madeline Sackstrom for her crazy Saturday 64. She is T13 at the moment. She had a tough little stretch today, but wildly, that's just quite a successful week. But I didn't get to watch a lot of that. I think gosh, there was a lot of golf to catch up on this week, but now it's officially a major championship week on the LPG. I want to say something that's the police bullshit
Starting point is 00:57:54 is put them in that 9-11 broadcast window on Thursday and Friday. How's anybody supposed to watch them when they're on it from 9 to 11, right? Like I had to go out of my way Friday night which speaks to the current situation of my social life. Is this PM you're saying?
Starting point is 00:58:13 PM. Yeah, totally ridiculous. And it chapped my ass because it just brings up some discussions about perception of women's golf. And nobody will, nobody, specifically a golf channel like they won't talk about how they're broadcast and presented. I just think it's very bad. How could, riddle me this.
Starting point is 00:58:36 Is this too crazy to have imagined that if the WGC and Corralis were combined into one broadcast this week, like how is the NBC slash golf channel supposed to do two PJ tour events and an LPJ event? Like how, something's not, like that's not adding up for me. Like how are you supposed to do all three?
Starting point is 00:58:54 You can't. Right. There's two matches going on today. Like how could they have not, I'm flipping between Corralis and WGC. Of course commercials on both of them as I flip back and forth. Well shit, how about them leaving the playoff?
Starting point is 00:59:07 Oh, in the European tour this week. Yeah, for Tigaota. To go to early play at the Coralus. Yeah, I mean, you clearly don't know how contracts work, but yeah. So that's the answer, right? It's like, well, contracts. Sure.
Starting point is 00:59:19 We all understand their contracts. I guess what I'm saying is, if we want to like change perceptions and we want to, you know, if that truly is the goal, which, you know, you tell me that's the goal. So I believe you when you say that's the goal, then we're going to have to, you know, you know, you know, sign some maybe different contracts or get a little bit creative. And you'll check it out. Guess who negotiates on the LPGA tours behalf? Now it's the PJ tour. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:45 So I don't know, just a little disappointing for me, I was a bit chapped on Friday. It's like a good venue, good like a very well-supported tournament out there in prime time. Like they could easily, it's freaking taped away from 9-11, too. It's not even a lot of broadcasts.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Right, right, right. Right, right. They're, we're like 50 steps away from this possibly being, you know, being possible, but there can be some, I think there's a, you can be some creativity in how these things are presented, right? The WGC, when there's four people in the golf course, they, first of all, it's still struggle to show every shot, but like you can. Scott Hansen. Combined, yes, you can combine this in some way. Like I, I, I, I need to see if you're going to have three tournaments that you're running on between the NBC family, like I need to see some creativity.
Starting point is 01:00:31 We're using NBC sports channel or like just do something. Yeah. Do anything, something. Do anything. Please. Like that's such a miss for them on Friday afternoon when all that shit's going down to not be able to, you know, half of it happens on playing through. There's no, there's no, no, no, mess between jumping around. It's, it sucks. It's such a good day of golf too.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Yeah. Inji Chun got de-cute on Friday for not signing her card. That's right. She was in fourth place. I didn't, I don't know. How do you not sign your card? That is weird. It, yeah, you play tournament golf long enough. You should, you do you not sign your card? That is weird. It, yeah, you play Ternicol's long enough, you should remember to sign your card. But there's some weird stuff with COVID and they weird protocols and stuff that I don't know. I could kinda see it happening, but there's probably a reason why it does happen.
Starting point is 01:01:15 The other person, probably. She attests the other person's card and then just slipped, I don't know. Charlottes and Marina Alex, she's, I think this is their second start after coming back from injury T13. Any park friend of the program also T13. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:31 The Korean women. I mean, I'm looking at one point. They were eight in the top 15. It continues to be the race for the Olympic team among the Korean women is probably the most sweepstakes that That most highly competitive golf that will be played this summer. Yeah, but I mean, fantastic leaderboard out there. I mean, the top 10, Brook Henderson,
Starting point is 01:01:53 Nellie Cordu, Daniel Kang, it's, I don't know. They deserved to be in the mix a little bit more, I think. Speaking of deserved being in the mix a little more, is it still not totally messed up that this Augusta National Women's Amateur is opposite a LPGA major? That sucks, because I think, like I get it on both sides,
Starting point is 01:02:13 like the LPGA doesn't want to move. Yeah. The traditional weekend for other majors and the way that it works for Augusta is they want to have it rolling into the masters, yeah. The weekend before, which makes total sense from a, you know, publicity standpoint and everything like that. So I don't know, but something's got to give, right?
Starting point is 01:02:31 Something's not quite right there. I like to learn a little bit. We're going to do it. We'll be doing a little dive into the A&A this week. I like to learn a little more about it. I like to understand what makes it a major. Really, you know, it's the dinosaur, man. I know. I want to dig into that just a little bit. But on the cementritor as well, we have Gabby Ruffel's I know it's the kind of shore, man. I know. I want to dig into that just a little bit.
Starting point is 01:02:45 But on the Sematritor as well, we have Gabby Ruffel's finishing a solo fourth place on the Sematritor. Did she, so good, she's making things happen pretty quickly. I'd like to give a shout out to Fadi Connell as well. She played it so, she played so well this week. It was a super windy day out there, I guess. There in Beaumont, California, which is halfway between Palm Springs and like Riverside, Ontario, Bakersfield, that whole inland area that I know nothing about.
Starting point is 01:03:14 But yeah, she's she's playing exceptional golf right now. And I would be shocked if she doesn't get her LPGA card after this year. Sophie Hausman, which candidly, I don't really know anything about her. One on the semesterometra tour, but some starts for our young hitters out there. So continuing to monitor the situation. What is net? Can we do some pricing in the NFTs?
Starting point is 01:03:35 Police. Randy, can you explain NFTs for me? I literally cannot. And it's, you know. It's a non-flusherable turd. I, right. Yeah. I've had, I just like, this no less than 25 times if I asked like other people to explain it to me
Starting point is 01:03:50 because I still hear other people's explanations and I still don't really get it. Well, here's what, you know, some of what I've always remembered, like Buffett and Charlie Munger saying is like, if you don't understand investment, like you just don't invest in it. Like don't even worry about it. Like there should be no reason
Starting point is 01:04:07 why you would ever invest money in something that you don't just naturally completely understand. And- It's one of those things where I feel like, am I getting old? Do I not get it? And it's like, no, this sounds like, I've tried to understand it and it sounds so fucking stupid.
Starting point is 01:04:20 And people have explained it to me. I'm like, cool, like I still don't understand it. Well, that's what raises the alarm bells for me. Here's my best explanation, right? Can you explain why a honus Wagner square with his picture on it and some stats on the back? Why that is worth like $2.7 million or whatever it's worth? Like, along those lines, somebody at some point has determined
Starting point is 01:04:41 that that was worth this. That's just scarcity in it. But that's scarcity. And how people value it, they value this. Yeah, so if you create a digital signature on this piece of art with a, basically, it looks like you put it through a free app on your iPhone of you posing with two fists in the air
Starting point is 01:04:59 at Bay Hill and try to sell it to somebody. You're just trying to convince somebody that it's gonna be worth more than that at some point. This digital signature, this one-of-a-kind thing that you'll be able to sell it to somebody. You're just trying to convince somebody that it's gonna be worth more than that at some point. This digital signature, this one of a kind thing that you'll be able to sell it, if you buy it for 50,000, you'll be able to sell it for 60,000 to somebody. And the value of these things will keep rising.
Starting point is 01:05:15 And it is tough, it sounds like a very bad, like if this went on Shark Tank, I think we get eliminated. But there's a market for this stuff. So being like, from the value going way, way down, because nobody gives a shit. But and I would say it's a bubble. I would get it if like the creation of the NFT coincided
Starting point is 01:05:34 with any digital copy anywhere being removed from the internet. So essentially, I am the only one who owns this highlight. Like if you look it up on YouTube, not there. The PGA tour can't DMCA this piece of it. But that's not the way it works. At any time I want, as non-owner of Bryson doing his dumb two-fist in the air, I can go watch that clip anytime I want.
Starting point is 01:05:58 It's not even the clip that he was selling. He's selling like an image of a literally, like put through an iPhone app, slat looking like a painting image image that's kind of shitty art. But how many people could have taken a picture from that exact spot, too, that we're in the gallery that day? Right, but it's the creation of the digital signature on it, which is like, hold different note, horrible for the environment,
Starting point is 01:06:21 like the energy that takes it away. I totally understand blockchain and how all that shit works, and I get it, but like I don't know how to understand it. Spucking stupid. It's really stupid yet like Bryson, so I've read this article on brobible.com, the great journalists of our time. It just has something awfully shady up here to be going on with Bryson to Shambos NFT auction. And Eric Patterson from the score, it was documenting this on Twitter that basically you can place bids on these NFTs.
Starting point is 01:06:49 I still don't really know what they are, but you can bid on them, but up to the point where the auction ends, you can cancel the bids. And on three of them, the bidding ended early with a surprise. Like people that had put a bid in, I had been like, yeah, I was planning to cancel,
Starting point is 01:07:04 but they ended the bid early and I had to pay blah,, I was playing the canceled, but they ended the bid early, and I had to pay blah, blah, blah for it. So like, they were doing some backtracking saying that, you know, the funds haven't been exchanged or anything like that. And some tweets were deleted. What did they pay $40,000 for one of them? Something like 50, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Some of the distances, the distance card, it was one of one, it included a meet and greet with Bryson and autographed US Open flag, a custom set of Cobra clubs, a thousand dollar Bose gift card and six dozen bridge stone golf balls. But that's the thing that throws it off for me is, like this thing can't stand alone, right? A card should never be worth that much, like three weeks after it actually happened. Like whoever had a bonus Wagner card back in 1920, it wasn't worth anything.
Starting point is 01:07:46 That's the whole point of it. Is just a lot of alarm bells going off. What a dumb. And why do you, what are you gonna do with it? If I have it, do I display it on my picture frame that just scrolls through my digital pictures at my house? What do I do? Do you have one of that?
Starting point is 01:08:03 No, but I think those are, I don't offense anybody. I think, I don't need that. Like what? You hold it and then hope it goes up in value and you'll be able to convince somebody it's worth 20% more than you paid for it. But like why did you collect baseball cards? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:17 It wasn't to like, sell them, right? It was because like, oh, I'm a big kangaroo feet junior fan. I'd love to have this card and me and my buddies are gonna get together and like show each other cards. Maybe we'll trade them. Which somebody said, this is so stupid. I didn't understand that baseball cards are like back
Starting point is 01:08:33 in a big way. That shit's going gangbusters, right? New ones are like buying old ones. Just the whole market in general. Really? It's crazy. It's hot as... I've been out of that game for a while.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Yeah. Anyways, it sounds like Patrick Mahomes and some other like, drunk, actual famous people have done these like, for charity, like made them and sold them for like millions of dollars. And then Bryson got like 66,000 or something for it. And then some of the, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:57 I'm still kind of confused by it, but it didn't sound like it went great. Despite, if you read any golf website, it's like, oh, Bryson's the first one into the NFT. Well, that was the other thing. Like know some of these publications that have a business relationship with Bryson being breathlessly promoting them. Fuck off. Also we have from at lamp lamp and nil one lamp and e1 what are your thoughts on Bryson's online presence on tiktok youtube videos etc. I think it's refreshing to see a golfer do something like that,
Starting point is 01:09:25 but it's clear that others don't. He posts a video or somebody that it was at his house, posts a video of him coming out of his main room with the US Open Trophy rushing to do a set on one of the gym machines in his garage that also has his logo with his, the dumb hat on it. And it's the most awkward, like 13-year-old cringe video you'll ever see, and it was posted freely to the internet,
Starting point is 01:09:50 and I do not understand why that was. KVV said it was- Contenking. Where he said, he's like, yo, like the, he's not pissing us off, or he's not like getting under our skin, it's just like, we just, like, we're just like marvel at this. We're allowed to shit on him. Sure. Like it's not bothering us, but it's kind of sports to just like marvel at that. We're allowed to shit on him.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Sure. Like it's not bothering us, but it's kind of sport to shit on him at this point. Yeah, that's exactly right. I was gonna say, you know, I hope he and his buddies had fun creating that video. I don't want to tell people how to get their kicks, but I'm allowed to like watch that video and say, that's the dumbest video I've ever seen.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Bryson makes Kevin Nile look like the coolest guy on the planet. Yeah, I was gonna say it it goes back to some golfers deeply, deeply uncool. Just socially, not adjusted. PFT commenter had a good, he was like, you know, he's basically... Dude, perfect on steroids.
Starting point is 01:10:36 On steroids and HGH and all that. That's the perfect summation right there. It just, it wasn't funny, it wasn't like creative. And we're talking about the same guy that released a 15 minute B-roll video of him cooking bacon shirtless in his house, you know, during the quarantine. But like it is just,
Starting point is 01:10:54 so for everyone that was all over me for calling like his post-round interview cringe, like this is what we're talking about. Like this was actual cringy. Like it was so uncomfortable to watch this. It was just like, I wish Brooks would have clapped at him. It's truly the definition of we're not laughing with you,
Starting point is 01:11:08 we're laughing at you. Correct. Well, I don't even know if it's designed to laugh with you. And then he's the exact kind of guy that's gonna pull up his bank account and say, well look, there's $24 million in here. Got you. Well, add like 60,000 or whatever,
Starting point is 01:11:23 those NFTs were all over me. Yeah. Few other notes to get through Jordan's speed. The news came out this week that's speed played for the better part of the last three years with a bone chip in his hand. Love it. God, I love it. We're back, baby.
Starting point is 01:11:37 I, somebody sent us a picture of he had his wrist taped at the 2018 Ryder Cup. I don't remember that, but if that is the case, who knows? Well, you know, I've never heard one one one people about this, but like that would explain a lot of poor play and bad fundamentals and like him somewhat getting it back. If he's healthy now, I think that makes a lot of sense to me. It's also kind of the point where like he could have said that to some privileged insiders. And they could have made a lot of money like fading him.
Starting point is 01:12:03 Fading him, right? That is interesting. Or he could have used as an excuse as like, you know, quickly, quickly use as an excuse anytime over the last couple of years when people were very publicly questioning him. Yeah, it truly, you know, he answered the question for me,
Starting point is 01:12:19 are you hurt dog? He's pouring his heart into this shit. He was injured. I hurt. Yeah. but he was still playing. Exactly. If the driver, what do you think about him for Augusta? If the driver is like on the one who love it, it's gonna be a leash-speath plan.
Starting point is 01:12:34 No, I do, I'm just gonna leave. I'm sorry. He's got a look. He's already made this. Yeah. It's a, I think he's like the third favorite on the board or something like that. He was already made the same. Yeah. Yeah. It's a, Ike's like the third favorite on the board or something like that. He's like 14 to one the last I looked,
Starting point is 01:12:49 which is insane. I mean, honestly, But it's not, if we take him out as word and he had a very serious physical ailment over the last couple of years and now presumably he's on the other side of it then God, I'm buying all this stock. Interesting ailment to be be able to play through that
Starting point is 01:13:05 and not shut it down for a while and not know that, is it just not gonna get better if you shut it down for a while? Or was he just that stubborn and wanted to play through it and just prolonged it? I don't, yeah, maybe it wasn't that serious, that just those the first I'd heard of it was this week. Actually, so I see, this is from reading CBS Sports.com from seven hours ago. It still has them as 25 to one for the Masters, which seems not right to me.
Starting point is 01:13:33 I thought I saw them at less than that, but DJ still the favorite at six to one. We'll cover all this in the Masters preview pod, but are you are you buying or selling DJ right now? I don't think I'm buying. Are you buying or selling DJ right now? I don't think I'm buying. I don't think I'm selling. I don't feel like it right now. Does it to you? No, but I just, you know,
Starting point is 01:13:51 I don't know what the price is right now either. It seems like it might be a good time to buy because he's kind of- We're two weeks out. Two weeks out. I think it's a hold right now, right? Yeah, I don't like him at 6-1. I'll tell you that.
Starting point is 01:14:04 I would not bet him at that. No, absolutely. It almost just feels to me like he's trying not to overexert himself or he's just trying to kind of coast in. He's probably so nervous. He's like that Mercedes this morning. Probably shouldn't have gone to Saudi Arabia if that's the case. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Rory McElroy has added Pete Cowan to his performance team, which I thought that was pretty. I has been working with him since at least the players I gather, but yeah, whatever he needs to do it. It doesn't sound like he doesn't sound like he's left Michael Bannon. It sounds I'm a little confused as to what the setup is actually like. But I wonder if he's like, if he's digging too deep here. Like, he doesn't seem, he was a little off the players. He had some big numbers and obviously badly. He's like, he's got to marry up those two swings.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Yeah. It just didn't seem like he was as far off as he seems to think he is, which obviously he would be much more tuned into that than I would. But it's a surprising move right before the Masters, I would say, and who knows how long this has been going on, but... I mean, I think it's encouraging that he's changing up some of the variables, right?
Starting point is 01:15:13 I think it's true. It's been a little bit frustrating over the last year or two that seems like it's been consistent inconsistency and he hasn't changed up any of the variables. You know, what seems like he loves having Harry on the bag. So what's one of the other, the only other variables besides equipment is swing coach. For listeners who I'm sure are wondering who, who have been some of the pupils of Pete Cowan in the past.
Starting point is 01:15:39 I don't have a listener in front of me. Oh, okay, it's by your back. So I'm not the only one who doesn't. I'm not a list. Like, uh, uh, current people would be Matt Fitzpatrick, for the extent of a stensen. What nationality is he? He's a, he's a bloke.
Starting point is 01:15:55 Oh, I love that. Graham McDowell, Lou Eustase and Danny Willett, Sir Joe Garcia, Darren Clark, Henry Stenson, uh, and many other players going to his Wikipedia. His whole financial. But he's kind of a mysterious guy. The financial thing, and this was on the golf digest article that somebody tweeted
Starting point is 01:16:09 us this week, but he basically says no salary, no set salary, but 4% of any top 10. And like if you go to leave him, you're expected to like make good whatever that means, but pay him, whatever, you know, you should. Otherwise, it's like, yeah, you're leaving with all this knowledge that I've given you and you're gonna make a bunch of money within the future. And like somebody left him and didn't like make good with him and then tried to come back. And the rule is, if you leave and like don't make good
Starting point is 01:16:34 with me before you leave, like you can never come back. And some player like tried, I've top 50 player in the world in a rider cup or it's who he said it was, left and tried to come back. And he's like, no, I don't think you were listening. Like you can't, you're gone. Out, you're done. Like, you cut off.
Starting point is 01:16:48 You're dead to me. And it's a totally subjective. You want whack art holds? You got to go through me. Like, you know what? I know how much you made in the proceeding two years in your swing or five years. You haven't changed your swing.
Starting point is 01:16:58 You're still using the exact same swing. It's awesome. I want the royalties. We're gonna be hunting that guy down for a while. He's a, like, just watching him. I remember watching him out in over in Abu Dhabi on the range working with Shit Half the Field. It seemed like, and he's always wearing black.
Starting point is 01:17:13 He's just a really, really interesting cat. I dig it. I dig it. I remember when I went with Chad Coleman from, who was a Calaway at the time. I went with him to the 2015 Open Championship. And like, I'd never been to any of this shit. Like he took me in the Calloway truck and like Henrik Stenson was there or something.
Starting point is 01:17:30 I was freaking out. I got never been around. Tor Pros at all. And this guy, this old guy kind of, older guy comes, soundering up to me and just starts asking me all kinds of questions. I already live. I'm like, oh, actually live in Amsterdam.
Starting point is 01:17:40 He's like, oh, no way. We just talked about Europe for like 25 minutes. It was peak count. And we left and Chad was like, what are you talking to peak count about? That's like, I was like, oh, no way. We just talked about Europe for like 25 minutes. It was P-Count. And we left in chat, I was like, what are you talking to P-Count about? That's like, I was like, who? He's like, P-Count is like one of the top instructors in golf. I was like, oh, I didn't ask him any questions.
Starting point is 01:17:55 He was asking all the other questions. I prefer to that one. I felt like an idiot, but. We're gonna talk some for me, the one here in a second, but Randy, you are on the spot here for our little what's in the bag for March. You are going to tell us about anything you want in your bag. I have a feeling you have something in mind, but this segment is brought to you by our friends at Callaway. But tell us something. Teach, learn me something. But I think people who know me know I'm a big hybrid guy. And so I wanna shine a spotlight
Starting point is 01:18:28 on my favorite hybrid in the bag right now. And that is the Calaway Maverick Pro. It's a two iron hybrid that I carry. 18 to 18 degrees. That's 18 degrees. I've been very, very impressed with it. I got it late in 2020. So candidly, I've maybe played 15 rounds with it.
Starting point is 01:18:53 You got it before the organ trip, right? Or during the organ trip. No, I didn't have it in Oregon. Yeah, so it was like after that stretch, which takes a lot of courage to change up the setup after a big win like that. That's when you start, did you get time to tinker now,
Starting point is 01:19:07 you have your status locked up. Well it could have been one of the reasons that you didn't punch your, like, you know, bump the hybrid from all over the place in that season. It was so sad to see you get away with that. This storyline's got, well, you like one time didn't bump the hybrid, everyone's like, he's a band, he was playing the ball through the air
Starting point is 01:19:21 at band and the greens, it was disgusting. No, I kind of have, I lost a little bit of the feel for it. But when it's going well, it's honestly a 15th club in my back. But while I like it, I was nervous. So I don't have anything in my current setup from I have a huge gap from like a really a three hybrid four iron, which even the three hybrid,
Starting point is 01:19:44 I can if I really flush it, it's maybe going 205, like 210 if there's a ton of roll. And then three wood, so I'm left with in that 210, like 220 yardage, trying to finesse a lot of three woods, like choked down, just trying to work that in there because I have no other option. And so I wanted to get the two iron, the 18 degree hybrid.
Starting point is 01:20:06 I was really nervous that it would be like hard to hit. Just, you know, any like two iron gives me a little bit of anxiety and could not be more thrilled with it. Great ball flight. I found it, you know, a large center, like what feels like a large center, like what feels like a large center of contact, sweet spot.
Starting point is 01:20:31 It performs really well out of the rough, which I've been shocked by. That was the other concern I had was, okay, one of the areas I really like to use my hybrids is when I get in the rough and a two iron, you know, is it actually gonna be able to get that ball up out of the rough? And it's passed a lot of tests with flying colors. I love to go to it now off the tee, where,
Starting point is 01:20:51 you know, I'm looking for something to 15 to 20. Big Randy's got less than drivaring. Yeah, just a little fairway finder. It's become just the most comfortable club in my bag. And like I said, added bonus, I can bump it around the green. So it's truly a 15th club. You're always a tough guy to fit into stuff because you hate offset. So like you'd probably be your game profile would probably be a great fit for just the regular maverick
Starting point is 01:21:20 or the regular apex hybrid. Yeah. Instead, you know, you love no offset, very small head, and you're the same way with your irons, too. And I think if I had to, again, I don't, it's bad that I don't really know my own game, but if I had to guess it's because I come from so far inside and try to like flip it at the last second.
Starting point is 01:21:40 You can't close it fast enough. That offset on the irons, it just is like, shank city waiting to happen. So yeah, big shout out, Maverick Pro Hybrid. I have the two iron, the Kerium and 3-8 iron, 4 iron. I'm actually, you'll be like, why don't you have it in three iron? I actually have the new Apex Pro Hybrid.
Starting point is 01:22:01 So I'm giving that a shot right now. But you got me wanting to try hybrid, man. I've been struggling with my driving iron lately, and I think I might flirt with it. You've been struggling with the driver? I've been struggling a little bit with it. I think I broke part, I damaged part of it. The feral little thing came off,
Starting point is 01:22:15 and now it just, it doesn't look good to my eye. Hybrids have been fun. I can't wait, you know, another 15, 20 years, I'm gonna be hybrid up to like seven iron, I think. Are you not a five wood guy? No, I don't have a five wood. Yeah, I'm gonna be hybrid up to like seven iron. I think. Are you not a five wood guy? No, I don't have a five wood. Yeah, I don't know. Because I think I hit the hybrid so well,
Starting point is 01:22:31 I kind of are overlapping. I might try five wood too. I'm looking to flirt. I'm looking to get weird. Thank you, big green. I'm starting to get back to the world where I'm excited to go back right handed. I miss hitting creative with some stuff.
Starting point is 01:22:43 So that you can't wait to hit a writing bunker shot. I'm so excited. For me the one time, there will be no more golf talk on this podcast if you want to leave you please. You can. I actually, I do want to say, I got DMC 8 yesterday. Oh, that's, what a thrill on a Saturday. For the first time, I put it up on a Friday night.
Starting point is 01:23:02 I loved it. I thought it was awesome. Rom, I think flicking off a boat. It looked like it. Yeah. Flip from the bird to a boat on Friday, which is new perspective from this. Yeah, he's working on his own. And intrepid follower, you know, sent it over and said, Hey, eat your heart out here. And I love just just throwing a shot across the ballot at PGA tour HQ at 7.38 pm on a Friday night.
Starting point is 01:23:25 They were working efficiently. Even though there were layers there, it was like somebody else taking a picture of their TV and their computer. Of their computer, yeah. Of their computer, but you were the account that tweeted that video. And then it's so easy to say, and it says, hey, your account is locked out. And it's first like, oh shit, my account's locked out. And then all you have to do is just accept, you know, I know you can only get like, there's
Starting point is 01:23:44 like three strikes, right? But it was my, I think it was my first one ever, my account's locked out. And then all you have to do is just accept, I know you can only get like, there's like three strikes, right? But it was my, I think it was my first one ever, my first one a long time. The Olympics used to be really, really deep into it. And then I also wanna give, I do wanna give a shout out to the Corn Fairy Tour for doing a live feed on Twitter of the playoff today. That was a big, like, point of contention in the past.
Starting point is 01:24:02 They've basically said, hey, we're gonna do this. If it's not a televised event, we have a playoff. They are allowing Kevin Prize in the social team to get out there and live stream it, which is great. I also meant to give a shout out to Andrew Yoon, who was in the lead at one point on Friday afternoon, who Monday qualified for his first PGA Tour event in three years and missed the birth of his second child to play in Pudukana. I didn't see where I think he ended up somewhere near
Starting point is 01:24:28 the top, near the bottom, the top 20. But yeah, he was leading at one point. A interesting story was developing and I, I, I, that was a little, a little uncomfortable just knowing that he missed like, watching him like really rooting for him. No, he missed the birth of his son, but he finished in a tie for 20 seconds this week. A top 10 would have got him another start, obviously, that he missed, like, watching him like really rooting for him, knowing he missed the birth of his son, but he finished it in a tie for 20 seconds this week. A top 10 would have got him another start, obviously, but he missed that by a few shots, but that was interesting. Okay, on to the real exciting stuff. Man, was it hard to flip over to golf after watching Formula One this morning?
Starting point is 01:24:57 It was exhausted. We are back, baby. Crofty and Brundel. They were in rare form today on the telecast. Spirits were high. Yeah. What a just wonderful start to the year. That if that is any indication of the new competitive balance at the top and form the
Starting point is 01:25:13 one, we've always loved the midfield battles and everything going on. But if there is an actual race like that for half of the races this year, that is going to be such a refreshing case. So many storylines. Ophmara was unhappy about not being able to races this year. That is gonna be such a refreshing case. So many storylines. Atmar was unhappy about... Not being able to cheat this year. The new regulations. Vettel got right, right, really,
Starting point is 01:25:32 fitting in nicely at his new team. Vettel's with a penalty. Wow, how about Mazepin going off the track after three turns? That was a highlight of the day. A dream, dream start for Haas. Haas might need to like, Haas is gonna be dangerous in the worst way.
Starting point is 01:25:48 It's a really real sense of the word. Like they don't belong out on the track. The cars might be close to competitive. I was gutted for Pierre. I thought Pierre, they talked up how good his car was all week with the nose damage early on. I thought that just never had it after that. Yuki acquitted himself well, ninth, in the points.
Starting point is 01:26:12 There were some early concerns, but the last half of the race, he really turned it on. I thought the prancing horses were back for Ari. They haven't. Are they back or not? They don't suck. They're not dumb trucks, baby. They're not dumb trucks, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:28 But all, Craig, I mean, they got six to eight. The story of the day for me, everyone's talk about Lewis, everyone's talk about Max, all that. I get that checko. Sergio Perez. He's an absolute dog. Started in last place and ends up in fifth.
Starting point is 01:26:43 Not the first time he's done that in Bahrain and he looked quick in that Red Bull. That is gonna be, but also a sign of, there's still learning curve, which he said there's gonna be around this car. But the fact that he did that in the first week. Yes, like had to start in the pit lane. And there was very much like a,
Starting point is 01:27:02 I don't know, Red Bull had to like, almost on the fly, do some things, are like sportsman, I don't know. Red Bull had to like, almost on the fly, do some things that were like sportsman, I don't know, I don't know, the true sportsmanship before me the one, but it was like, Max had to very quickly, when he passed Lewis on the near final laps, but he passed him off the track,
Starting point is 01:27:16 he had to like give the spot back to Lewis. And I know that, did that come straight from race control? I think they read, they sent it to race control and said, hey, you're either gonna get a five second penalty here or like, we can let you, you know,. I think the red ball. The sentence of race control and said, hey, you're either gonna get a five second penalty here or we can let you, you know, but I think. That was just, that was almost like soccer, like an injury in soccer, like you give the ball back to them.
Starting point is 01:27:33 It seemed like, and then Max was all, you know, like, yeah, pissed afterwards saying, hey, you know, I, I think I could have stretched it some more than before. And then like, no, dude, no dude, that's sociopathic. Did Louis bait him into going off the track there? Do you think? Good question, I don't know. It was an early move.
Starting point is 01:27:53 I don't think he needed to do it right then. That was not his only shot at passing it. It was super interesting. It was super ironic, because Louis had been bitching about the track stuff, because they had warned him early in the race about leaving the track. Well, Lewis did it so many times.
Starting point is 01:28:07 And the corner played a great move and got on the radio to Max and said, just by the way, Mercedes has been doing this the whole time so you can run off, turn four as much as you want because they're not doing anything about it. So didn't go bitch to race control and then finally I think something came up.
Starting point is 01:28:20 And then one of the commentators, because they had been really inconsistent about it all week too, but they basically said, hey, like, we're gonna keep an eye on this. You can't do it. In the former, like the, you know, supplemental regulation.
Starting point is 01:28:32 I thought it was, like, you can't keep getting away with it. I thought, like, it took a lot longer for Max to catch up with Hamilton. So good. On worst tires and a car that maybe is not as fast as the red bull, like, they're just racing was just fucking perfect. Max was, he was saying he was fighting the car a little bit though too. So early on, but I didn't feel like that.
Starting point is 01:28:54 He was later on. They were saying that he's always winging about the car. Yeah, that was God. God, the broadcast, he was so good. They were, I mean, it was an interesting, like, it was a strategic race, you had the early caution and then there was the virtual caution. And then, and then after that, undercutting moves were awesome.
Starting point is 01:29:11 Like the, all the, the, got, Bo-Dus got, got done dirty on the, pit stop. Well, he's such a bitch though. He was, he was so salty in the, in the, in the post race interview. I like Checo better than Botos going forward week to week. I do want to shout out my guy, Lando too,
Starting point is 01:29:31 just a very professional race. He was finishing fourth and that McLaren. Ricardo left a little something to be desired if I'm being honest. A lot to be desired. Maybe he's just getting used to the new car. We shall see. Tell you who I like.
Starting point is 01:29:42 Thing, he's just sporty, just an oily vet. I'm already starting to like Fernando Alonzo. It seems like a... I think they call him a wise old owl at one point. Yeah, just a capable hand. The alpenzer did not look good. Yeah, I don't trust him, but we'll see. If I can get some out of him, I think Alonzo will will shout out to Alfa Romeo, finish 11th and 12th.
Starting point is 01:30:07 And no points out of that. Well, yeah, how about how about when, um, because they were the next ones to pass right when, uh, Lewis and Max were starting to kind of go out at it. And it's such a weird, it's a little wrinkle where you can, you can do D. R. S. When you're lapping somebody. Yeah. Which I, that's where I was like, where I thought Hamilton had the best chance, like hold on,
Starting point is 01:30:30 is he knows some little move he can pull in terms of like waiting to pass the guys in traffic so that I can use DRS and Max won't be able to use DRS and. You were suggesting too that, you know, Toto was playing inside baseball with Williams. That was bullshit. God, Toto. Toto's just the goat.
Starting point is 01:30:49 That was, yeah, George Russell, who's managed by Toto Wolf, who's a team principal from Mercedes, slows, they was not letting Hamilton pass until he got to the straightaway, so Hamilton could use the DRS to get by him. That was, that's 100% Toto move. For sure. Prove it that's 100% total move. For sure.
Starting point is 01:31:05 It's proven. Prove it. Exactly. I mean, it's not even illegal, but I'm assuming it's not illegal, but that is absolutely a factor. It felt like, it felt a little like, like Lewis and Max almost have a,
Starting point is 01:31:18 I don't know. This is a little half baked, but it was almost like a late, late in his career, Michael Jordan against like a up and coming Kobe Bryant, where like this, you know, Kobe's got all the physical attributes and athleticism. And he's just so eager and it's like, man, Michael's just got that bag of tricks though. And he's got the officials in his pocket, too.
Starting point is 01:31:42 And a little bit of that. And it's like, you know what, the goat will stay the goat for a little while longer. Well, I think Max, Max did make a mistake where like Red Bull and Red Bull could have set him up better for this, where he didn't have to let him through right then and there he could have waited another turn or to, right? So that's the best case or that I read was that he let him let him through in the wrong spot, right? In the worst spot to go. He's like, they almost can't. He lost all of his momentum, you know, but, but, but I would throw that at the feet of, of the team and not of Max because it was just super interesting to have two cars that are
Starting point is 01:32:16 extremely competitive because then you get to see the strategies play out, whereas they am undercutting and pitting before red. I got never really seen that play out at the top of a race, right? Because Mercedes car last year was just so fucking good. It's always first four to fifth. Exactly. But to undercut and get in front and like basically rely on Hamilton's racing on worst tires to beat Max on the tires that had five less laps on him at the end was just super
Starting point is 01:32:42 interesting. Like, because none of the passes, they exchanged first, the two of them just exchanged first the whole race. Neither of them passed each other at any point. It was all undercutting. It was all through pit stops that they were getting past each other. And it was, gosh, I'm so happy to have formed the one
Starting point is 01:32:57 back, I hate to have to wait three more weeks for the next week, but it's terrible. Which, you know, I think it's gonna be. It's good time at the masters though. Yeah. So we've got Italy and then and then a week off and then Portugal and then right into Spain and Then and then Monaco and Azerbaijan with the the Monaco Azerbaijan Montreal
Starting point is 01:33:19 That stretch that stretch is gonna be I'm so excited because those are three that we didn't get last year TC wants to embed for that three-week stretch. He told me three be. I'm so excited, cause those are three that we didn't get last year. TC wants him in bed for that three week stretch. He told me, can we get three race stretch? I'm thinking about working remotely from Azerbaijan. I'm at least so sick. It's one of my regrets. The place I never got to was Azerbaijan.
Starting point is 01:33:34 I'm just so excited to see like a proper street course. Wait till Jedah Saudi Arabia sounds like it's gonna be the vote track. Mike McG51. The bonus hog round free. From a business standpoint, how can F1 show an entire race with zero commercials? I watched the broadcast for 90 minutes
Starting point is 01:33:51 and I'm not sure that they got anything out of me other than my ESPN slash cable subscription. I think golf air paid a lot of money. They got a lot of oil money. And there are, there are, you probably subliminally see countless advertisements that you don't really take in as ads. It just seems to be the complete opposite structure of American sports leagues and the PGA
Starting point is 01:34:15 tour, which is like your most valuable thing is your live television rights. You know, that's how, if you're relating to this to golf, the networks pay a huge amount of money to the PGA tour to broadcast them so they can sell commercials on it and the tour pays its players that way. Whereas in Formula One, the money comes into the individual team through their sponsors, which is why they have 80 sponsors on their cars and jackets.
Starting point is 01:34:39 And that's where I would assume the majority of their money comes from, whereas, and they view the television as a marketing tool. So the billboard, yeah. So ESPN in the past, and I've read about this, took, used to take the world feed, like the Sky Sports feed, and just like abruptly add in commercials to it.
Starting point is 01:34:57 And people lost their shit. And now they no longer do. And it's like a loss leader for ESPN, like they paid whatever rights are, and they don't run any commercials on it. And I'm not sure how all that works economically. But like I think it's also worth noting too that it's broadcast on Sky in the UK, which is pay TV. Exactly. So they're not like it's not just an ad revenue model. Yeah. They're in the UK. And I can tell you it's brought to by Mother's Wax. Yeah. Which is which is the car polish product.
Starting point is 01:35:26 Yeah, I mean, that's not to say too, that all the, all the ancillary, like the bumper shoulder programming is worth a great deal, like those commercials, or the shit load. They do, their pre-game show is fantastic. Yeah. Their post game, I don't know if you guys saw that.
Starting point is 01:35:41 Like they have Toto and Horner together, like talking to like facilitating that conversation almost right after a race where, you know, their two drivers are duking it out. It's awesome. Randy, it was cool to see the CFO get some run. For the Mercedes. Yeah, he got to go up and lift the constructor trophy.
Starting point is 01:36:01 They're run out of people to go and send up there. The abaco asks, if you could transfer one aspect of F1 coverage over to the PGA tour, what would it be? Like the leaning into, you know, just like... Controversy. Yeah, just, you know, the way that they cover it and the way that they, like, they, like, that feeds into the competition, that feeds into the intrigue. Biking up the players, turning the competition. Yeah, the audio between, you know, the true intimate audio that you get between the race
Starting point is 01:36:31 teams and the drivers is unparalleled. Like it just tells the whole story. And shit, even the, like, Op-Mar was like, they had a guy in the pits and he was on the telecast at that very time and it got super loud when he was on there because the car was in the pits. And I don't think I fully appreciated this last year watching it, the strategy of not giving away too much on radio, like I'm surprised
Starting point is 01:36:53 to use all the speaking code. Maybe that's illegal. Like I'm sure there's probably some rules around that, but it would be, I wouldn't want to give away like, hey, really struggling with the front left right now because those messages get relayed in the world. Well, they said today that Red Bull was doing Morse code or something on the steering wheel,
Starting point is 01:37:11 sending those messages through, because they didn't want to telegraph their strategy to Mercedes. And then lastly, Vettel, he just seems like kind of an asshole. Yeah. He seems like he's got a VJ streak to him. There was somebody said that during our trap draw. I said that about Reikin'in.
Starting point is 01:37:29 Oh, about Reikin'in. I think Vettel kinda seems like that, where he's just salty and he takes pleasure in being salty. I saw the meme where I forget the one meme where the guy shoots the other guy. And that's Vettel to Okon. And then it's like, wait, why did Okon do this to me? He ran right into a...
Starting point is 01:37:49 Okon was a complete non-factor to this. Like he usually is, unfortunately. God, that was just awesome. I'm so excited for this season. It's gonna hopefully be... I gave you guys a lot of time to congratulate me on winning week one of our fantasy week, but I didn't hear any congratulations.
Starting point is 01:38:02 Did you win, Wayne? Oh, I didn't tabulate, did you? Yeah, I didn't believe I did. I have to be in the last one. How much did you, so with Lewis getting what, 25 points? Yeah, I get like 16.6 points out of from him. And then I got, how much? You got, you got 18 from Max.
Starting point is 01:38:18 Max and then you get two from Yuki, but I got four from signs and one from Stroll. So, Neil might actually be in second. What he has, Bo Toss and Charlotte Klaugh, and he gets the flying lap. He might be up first, actually. I just knew I'd be too. Who had the fastest lap today?
Starting point is 01:38:35 Bo Toss. Bo Toss. I got that. Six strategy. He pitted on put on sauce. Oh, and got it. Yeah, I mean, it was there for the taking. I think Yuki definitely made a mockery of stroll there at the end.
Starting point is 01:38:48 But did they even show that? I didn't even see that. That was the little, they kind of missed that. They lost the track of the midfield battle a little bit. They were getting very excited though about that. But it was like, yo, this is the first time we've had this in years. Yeah, exactly. All right.
Starting point is 01:39:02 I'm yawning. So I think that is a wrap for this week. Anything else before we go? No, Randy never hop in. I went to Huntsman shortly tonight. Oh, God, I didn't know that. I would have wrapped this up way soon. Check the trap draw if you need to learn about the Suez Canal. Guys, I'm sorry. I would have gotten you out of your way earlier. Head to the trap draw feed right now and pick up on that one. Thanks everybody to an in. I'm off next week, so you will see these guys next week. And then it is Master's time. Cheers.
Starting point is 01:39:29 This is a record. Get a right club tonight. Be the right club today. Yes. That is better than most. How about it? That is better than most. Better than most. How about in? That is better than most. Better than most.

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