No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 415: Valero Texas Open Recap

Episode Date: April 5, 2021

What a week! Jordan Spieth gets his first win since 2017 at Valero, Patty Tavatanakit holds off Lydia Ko to win the ANA inspiration, plus we get Tron's first-hand account of Tsubasa Kajitani's playoff win at the Augusta National Women's Amateur.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the No-Lang Up Podcast. Yes, this is Neil, substitute teacher today. Happy Easter first off. Sally's taking a couple days off.

Well earned. So we hope to have him back soon. See here across the table from me. Couple of prized pupils in class, TC, how are ya? I'm good, do you fashion yourself? It was like, yes, Terry Gannon or Bill McAtey or. No, that's, yeah, that, you know. You know, Nancy's office week,

McAtey's handling shit in the booth. I always look at it like a local news thing. Good evening, Chris Solomon's office evening. Yeah, exactly, exactly. I would, that's, that's, that's, I'm Mayo Schoeson. Chris Solomon's office. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I would. Well, the baby news. I made shoes. Chris Solomon is awesome. That's less, less or whole. Yeah. And then Brian Wayne's, you know, detonated himself. But yeah, we'll just don't make up any experience. I'm gonna let the people decide. I was gonna hit him with an air horn, but I think I'm gonna try to,

you know, keep it, keep it between the rails to start tonight. DJ. How are you? I'm doing great. Jordan's spieth one, man. Exciting. I mean, that's exciting. I knew we were gonna say it at some point soon. I didn't know when it was gonna be. I believe TC and I, I think we've really been keeping the faith. Yeah, people seem to think I'm Mr. Negativity,

your pessimism on the spieth train. I do say like, he's both the best player in the world and he stinks at the same time. Like I think maybe they're, maybe they're, they're, I don't even mutually screw in that. Yeah, it's like he's like, generationally good, but I want to get to all of this. There's a lot, there's a lot to unpack, okay.

I'm so excited to talk about that. I appreciate if you guys would raise your hands. Yeah, sure, sure. I'll set that up first, okay. I gotta keep control of detention here. But first, T.C., I have a question for you. Shoot, what if you could have one polo that does it all? I'd love that.

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We've got the, we've got the Augusta National Women's Am, we've got the A and A, we've got Speed, we've got all sorts of other nonsense. So I don't think anything's getting short-shriff. I think if anything, we're starting with a good thing and then it's only going to ramp up because I'm most excited to talk about Augusto National Women's Am. I'm excited to hear about it. We've asked T.C. not to tell us. He was on site.

He was on site yesterday. I was offended. So we want to get the boots on the ground, perspective, but first shot. He's a bride, will you? We don't want to, you know, barely lead. Speed wins by two over Charlie Hoffman

at the Valera Texas Open. I think we should open up with an excellent question. The Texas Valera Open as, as, as Azinger called it., as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, as, Who's saying that back there? Hey, come on guys. Didn't Randy substitute T.J. Yeah, I think you got run over like a freight train. So, Tooms Norman, what's Speed Island real estate? What's the Speed Island real estate market look like these days? Hot. Hot, hot, hot.

It is an absolute sellers market on Speed Island. This is where I think we, this is what we're trying to get into before the, the Zinnah ad read was, you know, I think we, this is what we were trying to get into before the Zinnah ad read was, you know, I think that you could kind of see, it was a weird thing with spieth where you could kind of see around the corner that like, listen, this guy is way too talented. First, I think there were a lot of converging things.

One, it probably wasn't as bleak as, you know, people were led to believe. Well, then the fact that it was hurt too, the fact that he was about. Had an fact that he had an injury going on. But what I said, what I mean by, it wasn't quite as bleak was, it's not like he was missing every single cut, it's not like he was shooting 85.

He was still, he wasn't really contending. And so it was kind of clear or fairly clear, I think that it was gonna come back around at some point. The guy was way too talented and I think that's what I kept preaching. Were there a couple dark moments where it was gonna come back around at some point. The guy was way too talented, and I think that's what I kept preaching. Were there a couple dark moments where it was like, I don't know, maybe he should maybe view some other instructors,

maybe he should maybe try some other things? Yes, of course, I'm sure there were things said. Luckily, I don't think anyone can ever go back and listen to any old podcast that who could possibly say. Emotions ran high, that's well said. But the point being, I think, you know, for most of the people on this podcast, I think it saying emotions ran high, that's well said. But the point being, I think, you know,

for most of the people on this podcast, I think it was stick to your guns. It's gonna come back around, truly in the truest sense, trust the process. And, you know, we saw that bear out today. The people that were adamant that, you know, like he was on this magical, almost lucky run, right? That he had found this form

or that he could never quite recapture. Like that never really resonated for me because it just seemed like, you know, the totality of his work for, I mean, because really how long was his main kind of peak stretch? Twenty-four-thirteen to twenty-seven-teen? It's like twenty-six-teen? Like the balance of thirty-seven-teen, you have to throw the open in there. 2014, 2013 to 2017? I said like 2016? Like the balance of 2017, you have to throw the open in there.

Well, yeah. So it's like three or four full seasons here, right? And we're not, yeah. So like it's hard to, like you can't just smoke and mirrors it for three or four full seasons. Maybe one thing if the guy went out and won three majors in 15 months or something like that.

And, but to me it's like the balance of what he did one, three majors in 15 months or something like that. But to me, it's like the balance of what he did and the fact that he's greater than the sum of his parts. That's the best way to describe it in my opinion. And so when those parts aren't working in symphony with each other, it's just, there's gonna be, that greater than the sum of its parts isn't gonna happen. Well, his game feels like it's almost built

for slumps a little bit, because he hits it all over the yard anyway and just gets out of trouble. So, it's kind of like, if anybody can bounce back from it, it feels like, you know, spieth was going to plus he putts the putter, and he putts the lights out. Well, this felt like,

a true easter performance. A true easter performance today. Yeah, shout out to West Bryant. This felt like the JZ. This felt like something that like his baseline where it's not like he drove it exceptionally well. He, you know, it was great to see him find it today off the tee though because he started off really shaky.

Very wobbly. And then it was kind of like he snapped in around six or seven. It was like, okay, I've, you could tell he was like, I got it. I'm going to hit this cut. Well, how about the fact that he, he's walking off the first team, wondering whether it's drivers' crack or not. He's talking to the rules official about whether

there's a visible crack, and if he can replace it, and they've got a backup on standby, I mean, it was, and he had to leave it with the scoring. Not good vibes. Apparently, I had to leave it with the scoring table because a fan or a, you know, someone from his team isn't allowed to bring it out.

That was a rule I didn't know anything about. But that was very, you know, someone from his team isn't allowed to bring it out. That was a rule I didn't know anything about. But that was very, you know, I didn't know if that was one of those omens that was. Yeah. Like, you know what, maybe this is a good thing, you know, if speed can't hit a driver today. That somebody has shot his best round ever without a driver. I was kind of like, well, this is shaping up

to be very interesting. Well, it could have been the best because it seems like he's automatic with that three wood. Yeah. Right off the tee. And then see, like, judging from this weekend, just being, you know, under the gun, trying to put together, there's some pretty nervy driving holes around there. Like, we can get to the course later, but it seems like he's super comfortable hitting

a cut, or hitting a fade off the tee, and holes that move right to left. It seems like he's having a problem with, which I think is gonna be interesting for Augusta. Yeah, because it's like, he's got that left mist lurking under the surface. It seems like. Yeah, it seems like the difference is, you know, way off that left side at Augusta

is a lot different than way off the left side at this golf course. You know, it's like there's a lot more, you can get away with a lot more Augusta seemingly. So I've got a couple questions for you. Well, before we get there, there was just in case I forget to lay it out, there were a couple of things that really stood out

to me about this week particularly. First one was a stat from Justin Ray. Of course, we're gonna pillage all of Justin Ray's stats per usual, everyone should follow him, read all the great stuff he does. I think he's doing more master stuff this week, but he said, spieth gained 12.89 strokes on the field T degree in this week.

His most over 72 holes in any of his PJ Torfictories. So that bodes well. Guys hitting it. He's hitting it nice, man. I mean, it's not all smoking mirrors and, oh my gosh, how did I happen to make par from there? For the most part, it's hitting it great. And the second thing was,

quote, reading through his transcript afterwards, a quote that stuck out to me was, when I would have really maybe started to freak out and change swing fields instead, I stuck to my guns and said, what I'm doing is the right thing. Let's just try to figure out what we've got. And he had like some really good stuff in his post-round, press conference today about,

like, just, you know, he talked about it in the, in the immediate interview after just this, like, lightness of just, listen, we're not gonna freak out. Let's just, let's just step into the ball and like, make it work, man. If that means we gotta hit a massive cut here to feel comfortable, if we gotta hit a massive draw, if we gotta do some weird, he said,

you know, we gotta do some weird bubble stuff to just get it to hit a massive draw, if we've got to do some weird, he said, you know, we've got to do some weird bubble stuff to just get it to point B. Like, that's fine. But let's just do it. We're in total control. And I thought that was a fully embraced this week or seem to fully embrace kind of that idea of like, hey, man, I'm a very talented guy and I'm just going to go figure it out. And it's going to be totally fine, rather than being a lot more stuck in in that swing thought golf swing kind of thing that we've seen him in the last, you know, the last couple months where he's played great on Thursdays, Fridays, even Saturdays and then

under the gun it gets a little anxious a little a little tight and the putts don't go in and today just kind of felt a lot more like chilled out trusted like yeah I'm just gonna I'm gonna go fucking win because that's what I do. There is some parts. I mean, some of the parts he had done the stretch, the biggest moment for me was the up and down on 17. On Saturday. On Saturday.

That was one of the filthiest shots I've ever seen in my entire life. That was like, so I was driving back from Augusta, and we were listening on PGO tour radio, shot out to Earl Forci and... All the boys. Carnival. All the hitters. All the hitters.

And they were mind blown at how good that shot was. And then, yeah, between that and also, it feels like he just rose to the moment and also, it felt like he kind of convinced himself, hey, this was the Valero Texas Open. Because I think even if this were the, you know, at Riviera or Pebble or somewhere like that, it felt like this was a little bit of, I know there were fans there, which felt I loved watching because it seemed like the crowd was really into it.

That was a nice, nice addition. You know, it felt like it was lower stakes than some of the tournaments prior to, you know, just because of the field and all that, which I think is a good thing. It was truly like a warm-up event for him. I don't feel like he blew his stack with a week before Augusta. Almost like the old school bell south days.

Yeah, when that used to be the tournament at the sugar loaf in Atlanta, and those guys would all use that as a warm up for Augusta. But DJ, the quote you just brought up about Speedhouse around, that's what, I love it when he says stuff. That's so relatable. That's exactly what I do in the middle of a round. I'm like, this swing feels not working, put it in the tracks.

It's garbage, throw it out. We're on to the next one. Let's go, let's go with that one where it feels like I'm getting a little more upright. That was working on the range, right? Yeah, yeah, that worked like six months ago. Let's just go there. That's why he's so, and then he fucking wins the tournament.

Yeah, it's unbelievable. Do you think people, like you think certain people don't like him because he's too raw to watch or he makes you feel almost vulnerable where you don't wanna watch something of yourself of, you know what, I know that feeling. I don't think there's a lot of people. you don't want to watch something of yourself. I know that feeling. I don't think there's a lot of people that don't like him though.

I think the people who don't like him don't like him because he's probably a little too like Captain America, Captain of the football team, kind of all American kid type of guy. Which I could, I guess empathize with. He's obviously my favorite player, so I don't really feel that way, but I can see it. He doesn't act invincible, though. No, right? No, he's so favorable.

No way they're like, you know, Brooks can do where it's like, right. Yeah, I'm, you know, like I'm one athlete, not like, like he doesn't do that. He's very vulnerable. Well, thinking about by his standards, playing like shit for the last two or three years, I can't think of a single instance where he's let it boil over or he's been really

shitty to somebody other than, you know, I've demanded a couple of apologies for to myself, Hank Greller, or some of his, you know, some of his conversations with Greller on the course, but that's for the club selection. That's club selection. Yeah, no, like just freaking out on a part, on a member of the media or getting extra pissy and around. He certainly, he can whine about getting certain breaks here or there, but it's never anything that leaves the golf course. Yeah.

Do you guys see, speed over the last three, three and a half years in this, we'll call it a drought or slump? Do you see any, you think it was worse than what Ricky's going through now? Or because he was at a higher level or do you think Ricky is deeper into the wilderness? I think it gives him the blueprint to come, he has the blueprint for how to come back, or how to get back to there, whereas Ricky's never been there.

Yeah, I think, but you would say Ricky, I mean Ricky's fallen off from his peak, right? So, do you think he's fallen off farther than speed did from a higher peak? I don't really check the numbers as far as like missing cuts and what you're, you know, Stroke's gained or doing and all that stuff, but it's certainly anecdotally it definitely seems like Ricky's farther off, but I think what's interesting about the speed thing and probably would extend to the Ricky thing too is, you know, it's talking to Solly about this a little bit today and just kind of what his take on it was. No, no, no, no, actually quick side note on that.

Sully's taken like three days off in the last, like, you know, everybody takes days off, but like three very specific, like, hey man, I just, I need to check out my parents are in town. Can you take over the Twitter account? Like that doesn't happen very much. And the days that it happens are always, the best shit happens. I remember it was the day that Kessler

punched that fan at the president's cup and we've got the exclusive first report on it. All that shit happened with Sali's at a Christmas party with his wife or something, the speed thing happens today. There was one other instance I can't remember what happened. But it was one where he was, I think he was, he was on vacation somewhere,

like when he was living in Europe when Miguel and El Jim and I was like, he got no fight. That was a hard and hard. No, so he was texting me, just like, fuck, I can't believe I'm, I can't believe I missed this. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. But he pointed out a lot of really good stuff about, you know, just, everybody can roll their eyes at like the team and the process and all that stuff. But there were so many people calling for

speed to just blow it up, start over, fire this guy, go see this coach, do this, get a new caddy, yada yada yada and speed just like to his massive credit, stuck to his guns, stuck with the guys that, you know, that made him the best player in the world and was like, no, let's all figure this out together. That's pretty impressive and commendable. He had especially contrast that with, we're going to talk about how it's going to say. We're going to talk about the A&A, but contrast that with Lydia Coe just blowing up the ship a couple times and going through eight caddies in a season.

Yeah, it's crazy, man. So I think there's a lot to take away there. I think Speed had some, like, in a classy way, some kind of pointed, almost sub-tweet kind of comments after the fact, where he's like, yeah, I work, you know, my swing guys who's a world class instructor, and it was just kind of middle finger to like, yeah, everybody that thinks they know it's up, just shut up.

Yeah. Yeah. All right, a couple of questions for today. Most impressive aspect of his victory. I think for me, it was kind of that quote, right? It was, it was, you know, making, obviously made a couple birdies early to two, but, you know, when the driver gets swirly, it was not like, there was never like the, you know, everything is fucked to dude moment.

It was just very pretty calm. Let's just do what we got to do to get in the fairway and stuck to the driver and turn that around. And it was just impressive how he was able to kind of, you know, just stay calm, I guess, right? Is that especially not being in that situation a ton? I mean, I know he has the last couple of weeks or the last couple of months, he's done it a couple more times.

But to your point, Jonathan, I wonder how much of that has to do with, you know, the stage and the stakes and having it be the Valero Texas Open versus Riviera versus the players versus, you know, something like that. I would say, for me, it goes back to Saturday, the, um, kind of a, just not a whole lot going on at the start of the round. There was a weather delay. And then, uh, bogie four, I mean, four is a tough hole. Like four is like, you know, four hundred and ninety five yard par four.

He went right both Saturday and Sunday there, but he was won over through eight holes on on Saturday and then birdies nine and shoots 31 on the back. And to me, that felt like, you know, things easily could have he could have gotten left in the dust. And some guys are, you know, like Charlie Hoffman started playing his ass off just came out of nowhere. What a lot of Charlie Hoppin played awesome. We're gonna get the heavy back. That was a bit of air time here. But I thought that was a good gut check

and then getting back to the birdie on 17 or even the shot that he hit, I mean, it's a weird set of par threes out there at TPC San Antonio. Shout out to 16. Couple mega long ones. And yeah, the one with the bunker in the middle of the green. But like third, not a black sand bunker.

It's not a black sand bunker. 13's like 230 yards. And he hit one to, you know, 15, 20 feet and missed the putt. But to me, that was when it felt like, all right, this is real. Like he's, he's hitting the shit out of his irons and he's playing. Yeah, it was playing the win.

Yeah. Okay. We've got best shot from TC, best shot from today or this week from speed. I mean, it's obviously the wedge on 17, getting it down on 17. Yesterday on Saturday was mind blowing. Yeah.

And how casually, he, he, he almost expects that like, oh, yeah, I got this in the bag. The one, he had a three-wood into 18 Saturday. I actually, I caught that. I was like, and it seemed like he and Matt Walls were dueling a little bit. Like, excuse me, Mike. All right, but.

I would say, I was really impressed with his, his T-shot in 18 today. Yeah, you know, I've never been to that golf course. I don't know how snug that is, but I know, like when you've got the two-way miss going, as much as I can relate my game to his, which is very, very, very, very, very little. But, you know, when you've got a little bit of,

like, this driver could go either way, that having the road and the trees up the left is not a good feeling. And so just putting that ball in the fairway was really impressive. I think going back to you, you've got some doubt, like you shot 67 on Thursday, and then which you were sweating a little bit

because you had the first round. Leader thought that was really good. Jordan Street to be first round leader was looking good for about. Do you try to tough Thursday? 12 hours. Now we'll get to that later. And then second round, shoot 70.

And so I think like that was like, why for me Saturday was such a big gut check. Yeah, for him, right? Where, you know, hey, I'm asserting myself and I'm ready to roll this weekend. All right. Good question from Chris A. On Twitter, will Jordan wear the boots

to the Champions dinner? If I need to discuss the Valero, Texas opens a boots policy, giving boots to the winner. And making him to discuss the Valero. Texas opens a boots policy, giving boots to the winner and and making them put them on right down in there. Like, yeah, you know, you're checking out right now. The, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

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I know. I know about the, yes, sure. Like I know about the Texas open and kind of like the macro sense, right? Like there's long history of this event, but like the Valero Texas open at the AT&T Oaks course. Go longer the AT&T Oaks course. Not pay the sponsorship anymore, just the Oaks course.

Yeah, just do. But you know what I mean? I don't know anything about this modern Valarotex open. Never went to it, never been to the course. And it kind of always was top of mind for me as what's the worst event on the PGA tour for a long time. And so it's just, it's so out of their control, but I always like when a fairly long-term

Sponsor gets a good week like this, right? Yeah, that it's like man There's nothing we could have done, but like we really needed a bounce to go our way And it's like hey spades first win back good good for you guys and we could talk about the shot at course Similar to the John Deere when spades one is first time. Yeah, I have a like I want to make a mechalpa like it kind of overcoming Almost discrimination against TPC Like I the minute I against TPCs. I prefer something at first. Like I, the minute I see TPC in the name, I'm kind of immediately like,

no the minute you see the TPC, what is it TPC? I don't even, TPC San Antonio. TPC San Antonio, the Oaks course. No, it used to be literally called the AT&T Oaks course. Well, it does, yeah, that's the point. No, I'm with you. I'm with Vive, and but I never,

that was a total, you know, read the name and just like, like that. Oh, that place sucks. Yeah, and that's unfair because I was, was very intrigued watching golf the last two days. I guess that's a much shorter version of what I was trying to say. I don't think I've sat down, like I watched every shot today.

Yes. That's bethit. And I haven't done that for the Valero Texas Open. And I always thought the course time, listen, hand up, that's on us. There were a couple pretty cool holes out there. Yeah. I remember on these couple weird holes. Just a lot of good ones.

At the lock and Tara. Where they had the rollercoats. Like, yes. Six flags, which I think is where that's how it was there forever. Yeah. Yeah. So, all right. Going back, I think, to the point of, like, worst tournament on the PGA tour thing, past champs include Adam Scott, Zach Johnson, one back-to-back years, 08, no, 9.

You've got Jimmy Walker, Charlie Hoffman, now, Spieth, runners-up, you've got Baruch's, Reed, Spieth, Rory, Anthony Kim. This is so, This is so selective. No, I know. You're skipping Robert Gamme as Eric Axley. No, I'm right there with you. It doesn't have a purpose.

Because it's always bounced around on the schedule and it's just, it's one of what, four, five, six events in Texas. Yeah, which doesn't help that they run together. There's a lot of golf in Texas. There's not that many. There's just Tyronelleon Colonial. This's that many. There's just Fire Nelson Colonial. This one, Houston.

Austin. Austin, at least four. That's five right there. All right. Good proceed. You know, I think it's, and it's bounced around a little bit on the schedule. You know, and I feel like when I watch it too,

it was really gray there today. When I watch it, I always feel like it's kind of gray and it's relatively in the season and that kind of Texas scrub oak and kind of dusty look and they've got the tan hospitality tents, which is a weird look. And but you know what, the more important I watch it, I don't know if it's a good course,

but I'm really intrigued by it and I wanna go play it. Yeah. The whole thing stuck out to me was like number nine. Cool green. God, there's no bunk out to me was like number nine. Cool green. God no bunkers And it looked like a just like a volcano hole. Yeah, sitting up and those guys were if they you know Wanted two yards too far. They're down that hill with a with a touchy chip 17s cool to yeah, there's some there's some cool Like short-ish meeting you call out some our four some cool bunkers like I cut out of the rock. Yeah Yeah, Again, I know, I know we'll get to this too, but

clearly a second shot golf course. Yes. You know, very speedy. I would say very both well. The whole strengthy. Yes, it was. Before we move on to, because I want to talk about Charlie Hoffman, I want to ask you guys, I've been looking forward to asking this. What was the most speedy moment or shot of today or this? Not even close. A little layup. Yeah. Yeah. Grelr, shout out to Grelr, talking to, you know, trying to talk him into going for it.

Appreciate it that. Come on. No, walk, walk. Well, there was just a great, great, great moment where Jordan asked the absolute right question, which was, does this three would take Bogie out of play? There was a great pause, Greller. Yes. And George's like, okay, no, it's eight iron.

It's eight iron. What's Greller supposed to say? Like the pause set of all, right? Exactly. He's not going to plant a negative thought. For sure. Yeah. And then, and then he hits it.

What's the answer? Like it was such a weird decision to let the eight'd ironed up to, up to the left. It was a dual fairway and there's a creek down the middle. And up the left side, I guess that he can go as kind of as far left as he wants, but there's, it's a shitty angle into that pan. It was tucked behind this mound on the left side, whereas you can just,

and a few guys did the same thing. We're like, they laid up, up the left. And then, which I, and a few guys did the same thing. They laid up the left, and then, which I didn't really understand, but it worked out. He hit a brilliant wedge shot in there. It just seemed like a shitty angle versus going down the right side. It just got it, it seemed like he hit it

70 yards left of where it was looking off the face. I don't think he's quite that bad, but. He's like, I just want to cross the water. Give you over the water. I think the water is like, I just want to cross the water. Give you over the water. I think the moment for me, there was a, on the front nine, he's talking to Greller and they were on him for like 15, 20 seconds and it just summed up their relationship

where spieth literally didn't stop talking and I counted, the Greller said three words. And I was just thinking like, I'd love to see like a pie chart or something of their round and how many words the spieth says and how much like how much growler speaks and it's just like he just his job is just like just active listening. Which is active listening.

It's unbelievable all up and down every fairway. He's just talking Michael, Michael this, Michael that Michael that's on me, Michael here's what I was thinking, here's what I thought, that I thought, but I didn't really think that. Which I think going back to, you know, why do some people not like him? I'm sure that rubs a lot of people the wrong way. As for the three of us who,

like when there's nobody playing behind us, I will say are happy to be like the slowest players of the golf course, which is like, it's so fun. Nothing makes me, nothing, I never have more fun on the golf course than what I'm like partners with one of you too. It's just like, which blade of grass are you looking at? Right there? Cause I think if we started on that one

and we finished it on that one, I think that's the play. How about 16? I see your 13 over through 15 holes. How about 16? Down the stretch. I think that the lead was down to one at that point. Or no, it was two and then Hoffman chipped in. Birdied 16, right?

I'm thinking that Chipmunk was earlier. Yeah, so Hoffman, or something. Funnied from off the green. So the wind is blowing, the wind had stopped, but they knew it was up there and Mike's like, yo, just stall, just stall, just stall, it's just wait, just wait. Just stall and hit it.

And then they're back in fourth on these clubs, they end up switching to another club. Speed hits it and then just trying to all sorts of body, yeah, body English to get it to go that extra. And it took a nice hop on the first bounce on the green. But all right, so got asked the question. You know, people want to know. It's 10 to one.

Master's prediction. What do you guys think for spieth? Did he peak, did he peak a week early? I think leash is going to win. I think spieth comes in top three. Okay. Dej. All right, so I think that, first of all,

no, I don't think he peaked early. Like that. Anybody, I have, I don't know why I got asked. No, of course, I respect you asking it, but it's one of the, of course, I don't know anything about winning on the PJ Tour, but, you know, like, man, would you rather win or lose?

Like, I think you'd probably rather win. I think that's only a good thing. And I think what he has going in his favor is a couple of things. One type of golf course he won on is, you know, somewhere he's got his iron's awesome. I think he's got great validation for a lot of what he's doing. Again, if you read through the transcript from this week,

I think he was focused on a lot of areas where he was psyched about the fact that he regressed a lot through the week and he still got everything out of it. He knows what he needs to tighten up, knows what he needs to sharpen up. Like, you know, I thought that was really interesting to read. And then two, I mean, I think all you can do when you're trying to pick a winner for these things,

and again, not that I pick a lot of winners, when Neil, we can ask you about that. I listen. But when you're trying to pick a winner, it's like all you can do is pick a guy who's likely to be in contention, and then whether it goes their way or not is kind of a crapshoot. It's like, dude, who the hell else do you think

is gonna be in contention right now? The guy who plays so freaking well in this golf course, he's hitting his iron so good, that's the calling card of this golf course. It's all about local knowledge, it's all about a past experience, all those things. It's like, yeah, of course he's gonna be up there. I don't know if he's gonna win,

but I think I feel like finishing in the top 10's a pretty good bet, right? I mean, he just seems like he's gonna be right there. Better be for a guy that's 10 to one. Right. I think it's gonna be him and Bryson. I think it's gonna be a true. I'm so excited for this master.

I think there's a prediction. That's what I'm looking for. That's what I don't know if I said that on the pot or if I said that elsewhere. I'm just getting the Elysian, no, I like Elysian. But he's coming with the, you know, the Elysian Bryson's name. It's almost like I just hit the,

the ear horn. I didn't even have to hit the ear horn. I think it's gonna be an absolute good versus evil, maybe one of the biggest like dichotomy majors that we've had. We don't have a lot of like head to head, you know, I guess Trune, Phil, and Stenson, but nobody, I don't think, you know, that doesn't really stir your fill, of course,

gets the people going, but Stenson doesn't really stir a lot of people's passions, whereas I think Bryson and Spieth, I think it's going to be a very like line in the sand, who's pick your sizes, who's starting on two different styles of golf. Science versus literature and history. Well, I think it's going to be a watershed, maybe. Science versus the arts. I think that exactly. You guys think that I think then that Tredstone operatives gonna come in and just

Poor cold water on it all. Well going back to I think yeah Man that could have been on top of this guy just came in and ran away with it speed doesn't Can't lay though for that's Patrick can't lay for those that don't so you get credit for your prediction. Yeah Speed doesn't strike me as the kind of guy that's like the tank is running low right now. It seems like he's he's vying excited to play golf. He's excited to get going. He's really excited to. Yeah, like he's not tired from the process of bringing himself back up. It seems like he was tired maybe three, four months ago when he wasn't seeing the results

yet. And then now it's like, yo, I'm ready to I'm ready to fuck it. Whoa. I think a lot of this has to do with again, we're projecting so much that onto him and his process and his team and all that stuff, but I think it also has to do with the fact that it's the Valero Texas open and the fact that he's Jordan's speed, right? And he's won 12 times and it's not like he needs to, you know, it's not like this was a life-changing win for him.

Like he's going to go back and he's going to, you know, I'm sure he's going to celebrate respectfully with his team and he's going to, you know, I'm sure he's going to celebrate respectfully with his team and he's going to really enjoy it. But it's not like this was a life changer. Oh my God, I won on the PGA tour, blow it out, media requests. This is going to totally derail my next four days. It's like he's going to just, I think he's just going to shut it down and roll a new Augusta. Yeah. He's going to go celebrate respectfully. Oh, trick responsibly. He took the pledge. And he took the pledge.

We know he's not driving. He took the pledge. I'm just looking back at his record too to see if you've got any kind of back-to-back style wins. I mean, that whole 2015 felt like it was just back to just like a hot at the crowd to say. Just a man's words. That's probably the one that like speaks the most,

was 2015, that was St Andrews too, when he lost, when he was like a shot shy of the playoff, he had won the John Deere the week before. And then flew overseas to St Andrews and finishes a shot out of the playoff. So that should answer any, that should quell anything, any doubts there. I will also say first win since he got married.

How about that? That's gotta be kind of a, you know, a cool thing for him to celebrate with that. We found perspective. Exactly. What is why? I think the, the sadder it was gonna be looking for, I think the last person to win,

I don't remember which win of his it was, but the last person to win the week don't remember which win of his it was, but the last person to win the week before the Masters and then week the Masters, a week of the Masters was Phil, winning the Houston Open and then going to win the Masters too. So that was like 2010, I think. All right. Well, I hope this was a celebration cathartic for you guys to see. I think we kept it classy though.

I think you did too. You were trying to spike the football a little bit at the beginning, but I think it was classy. I would encourage people, I don't want, you know, I don't want, this isn't me talking, this is just whispers that I'm hearing, but you know, the guy rises on Easter Sunday, if we've had Sully, one of his close to Cyples, deny him publicly. It'll lead me to two, possibly three times with full, you know, the draft can take.

And then what's the name? The crow that we heard the crow said Jack's Beach. Like a reed-o, like a reed-o. When you hear that crow, I mean, you know, you know your trouble. The Charlie Hoffman kind of has some brab as vibes. Like going back to the real estate question, to answer the question, I think it's hopefully the new comers.

Like we've been paying property taxes here for a while. We're on the board of the E.T.O.A. all that. Like, I just hope the neighborhood doesn't change. Don't act up, right? Don't change the culture of the neighborhood. You're not gonna be the guy tell people they can't paint their mailbox a certain color. Are you though?

You know what we're gonna have? Neil, you know, Luxin' to a little bit of dough with his, with his George Speedpick. He's gonna come in and start, you know, new money, new Vow Riche. Somebody's gonna park my boat in the courtyard. Somebody's gonna flip him a house. Exactly.

What's wrong with my boat? You don't like my boat? What's wrong with my RV? This all hits home because there's some big fights going on in my neighborhood right now about people painting houses and all sorts of stuff like that. Does the RV guy move his, is he still part of the car? He's got 24 hours, 36, yeah. 36 where he can't, but that thing's a beast. Full school too.

No, I will shout out to Loll. I will say there's a lady down the street, Peggy, that she speeds like crazy and there's like 15 kids on our street. That's not good. I'm like Peggy, like, you know, she told me off the other day. So we're in a war of words. I'd love to get, I'd love to maybe get her on the trap chart. You guys can hash that out.

All right, let's talk, I want to talk a little Charlie Hoffman. I mean, a true horse for the course here at TPC San Antonio. Has it missed the cut? After today, five top fives, seven top tens, 12 top 20 top 25s. Unfortunately, going into the tournament ranked 111th in the world, so he will not be, as I understand, it will not be at the masters. I think you had to win to get in. Which is, which is a bummer for the first round. Charlie, 500. Also, I want to shout out at a gut.

Shout out to PGA tour Instagram. They've had some good like In helpful stuff. Yeah, they have one on this and then I got another one with Cam Tringale that we'll talk about in a minute But you got a sift through a lot of bullshit. You do and that's that's so but I want to praise progress It's like hey, I would like the more informative stuff But that's probably not you know growing the game. They leaned in heavily on MLB opening day this week stuff Thoughts on Charlie Hoffman. Well, I think it kind of has to start with the fact that he shot heavily on MLB opening day this week. It was tough. Thoughts on Charlie Hoffman. Well, I think it kind of has to start with the fact that he shot 75 in the first round.

And didn't have to, I think he had a birdie's last hole maybe on Friday to make the cut if I'm remembering correctly and ends up playing in the last group. He's one of those guys that, you know, the telecast shapes your, this is the whole keeper of the takes thing. The telecast shapes your view on everything.

And there's a lot of Charlie Hoffman, toiling in obscurity that we haven't seen over the last two years. Sure. But when he's flushing it, holy shit. It's fun to watch. Yeah. So that's you today. The way he just, it's almost like a slingshot coming out.

I'm guessing it doesn't always look like that, but what it looked like today was like, whoa, he is. But he did have the chloroform ball working a little bit. Lushing the ball. But the quick left. But he gets that like right arm through it

and his, you know, he's got that kind of a breathing ball that's just shit out of his body. It's a, it's a fun to watch golf swing. And he hits it pretty deep. Yeah, he just fly in speed. It gets drippy with the putter. Like when he's on, he's streaky, when he's on, he's, it feels like he has a tough time,

he run into buzz saws a little bit though. He's got four wins. He wouldn't have, like, and I guess he's faded a little bit of the gust of, so that's why it's interesting that I can be there because I see a guy kind of heat up this week, almost like speed. He might be kind of microwaving, you know?

That might be what you see Thursdays, Fridays, and a gust of. Yeah, I think he heats up quick, but even through Saturday, I mean, he's usually, he usually fades on Sunday, at least recently. He's one, he's one of the pretty wide variety of courses. He's one Bob Hope, he won the Deutsch Bank up in Boston, at TPC Boston, won at myocoba, and then the Texas Open. He might be a horse for course on Norman courses.

Okay. It just feels like- He got him down in, was it Exuma or Abaco? Whichever. Yeah. I kind of, I agree with you on the microwave take, DJ. He almost feels like though when the ball striking's on, like that game will travel, right?

Like, you know, if you get it close anywhere, you're gonna probably, you know, do some damage. Right. But yeah, I think, you know, he's been around long enough. I don't think he gets a, he kind of does float under the radar. He's got, doesn't help that he's always in that flat brim and sunglasses though. He feel like he's, he almost looks like a, like an extra

and like Carmen Sandiego. He's like something, you know, like, I don't know. He always has the, I just don't, I don't, he just like, he's just kind of sly. Like, you don't know what's going on. Really deep hole, but I remember when I used to watch a ton of white talk schemes, they would always talk about how Carlos Quentin looked like he had Lego hair.

And Charlie Hoffman looks like he has a Lego hat. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like, they just popped the Lego hat out of him. Oh, but not top of his head. On that note, he's got some. Shout out to Carlos Quentin, he was a minister. Yeah, he was. Um, uh, Stanford got a lot. Shout out to Carlos Quidney. He was a minister. Yeah, he was. Stan forgot. A lot of deep cuts in his last 30 seconds.

He's got some wrong thumb vibes too with the head shape and stuff. He could be Rums uncle that like, you know, on his dad's side that grew up in the US or whatever. Could be a candidate for maybe Godfather for Rums new child. Shout out to the wrongs. Well said.

Congratulations to them. Newfound perspective on the way. And shout out to Charlie Hoffman for... Charlie Hoffman underrated, overrated, accurately rated. I think he's underrated, but I'm shocked like looking at his Wikipedia page. He's played him 33 majors. How many top tens do you think he has in majors?

Four. three. He has two. Wow. That's good. T9 at the Masters in 2015, eighth at the US Open in 2017. Which is where I would lean on accurately rating. How out, but no, I'm actually thinking of my mind. I'm like, shit, maybe I'm over rating him.

But then I look at it and he's made 21 cuts in those 33 majors. Seven top 10. I mean, I think it comes out the wash. And then I got a lot of he's made 21 cuts in those 33 majors. Seven top fives. I don't know if it comes out of the wash. And then I got a lot of running out of Charlie office. So that's probably enough. I don't want to talk Mike Wallace.

Well, I was going to say Mike Wallace, you know, they were telling us he's working really, really hard on his mental game. That was the... You seeing the progress there? Let's start with that and then we can go to his golf game. That was the best I've seen. The commentators, shout out to John Wood. I know I've said this on the podcast before

and I know he's been on the podcast, but massive fan, I think he's doing a great job, but he was very, very vocal about like, this guy's on the edge right now. He's like potentially getting into it with fans, he's moving volunteers, like, this guy's running hot right now. I always appreciate here that, that's great color.

Well, and he's got, he's got Gareth Lord on the bag. Lordy. Yeah, Lordy, which he told us. It sounds like he's a pro's pro. Yeah, he's a complete pro. He grew up with a couple of alphas. He was kind of like a British, British girl. He was kind of like a British girl a little bit.

And on like the third or fourth green, they were kind of over there like whisperin' some stuff, laughing. I feel like, you know, Wallace rescued him from Team Rose. DJ Kidd a comment. As a team rose. Team Rose. And then before that, he was, he was a stensen's guy. Tough week for Team Rose all around.

Well, you know, with the on will out. Team Rose was out at the drive chip and putt today. Jiren on, Jiren on the kids. He's seen the kids. Rose is close. What's about visualizing. No. He said he was sitting in his trophy room.

I didn't see that. Visualizing. Visualizing all the shots in a gun. That's what I mean. That going through his rounds, play by play by play. Which is a flex. And, you know, I don't have a trophy room. I gave him a trophy room.

James Corrigan had a good, had a good call. I didn't see that. That was great. I will give a shout out for Team Rose. Let me speak up for Team Rose real quick. I don't know how we got talking about Justin Rose. The Rose Lady series is back with going to small. Some courses in England. That's a very, very cool thing that Rose and his wife are doing

for hashtag growing the game. In all seriousness, the guys on the radio broadcast yesterday were going out of their way to say I like this Mike Wallace or You know I call my calls Matt. I like this Matt Wallace guy. You know what? I would explain why we call him Mike Walisters. It's so stupid like it's it was from the masters It's very long. Yeah, yeah He's he makes a hole in one and you can always tell when someone's gonna make an ace when they cut to the other side of the golf course They're like oh oh, here, over to 16.

And Vern, who is among the most accomplished, we love Vern. Nobody loves Vern more than us, but he's really, he's kind of drilling down into just bullet points over these last few years. It's very, it's just meat potatoes, information that you're getting. And so he's very point blank, very to the point.

And he just said, you know, over to 16, this is Mike Wallace, and he made a day's, and that was it. And on CBS of all channels. It was just like a point plate. Shout out to 60 minutes. It was just an execution of like play better. So, but like I was kind of blown away by that because they're, you know, hey, this guy's really

a good guy and he's hard on himself. You know, he's like, no, he's like, he's really shitty on everybody else around him too. Like, he's bitching at fans. He's gone through several caddies. I know a number of caddies who don't care for him because he's so bad to his caddies. But he's such a talented ball striker. Yeah. He gained 15 shots from T-degree in this week.

Number one in the field. Jesus. Three more on the speed. You know, and he's got that two thumb putter. Yeah, that was a grip. Yeah, that kind of gave me a little bit of agita. And I was thinking like he chipped well. Like he didn't really struggle chipping,

but it just felt like every, he was just running hot the entire week and every time that, you know, like he's come at me on Twitter before, we've gotten in our spats, I mean, we are not. I feel like DMs are off the, you know, you can't air out, you can't air out DMs, but in like, what I wanted to say was,

there have been the M's. Oh yeah, yeah. Or in, and there have been like actual tweets too, but he missed Puts today from like on five minutes from five feet. He missed from seven feet on eight, 11 feet on nine, four feet on 14. Like he lost, he lost two. Well, I just want to call out, I mean, he's definitely a candidate for Opus Day. He bid himself today. Well, that's on, want to call out, I mean, he's definitely a candidate for Opus Day. He bid himself today.

Well, that's on, yeah. Which was, I mean, I was sick. Whoa. He just was just trying to clamp down on the, on the frustration. So, you know what, I hope he, he does figure it out because he is like crazy talented. And he brings like, similar to Hatten,

like it brings, bringing some fire out there, like at least, you know, he doesn't, I don't see a lot of, I don't see him chucking clubs and I think he's done that too. Yeah, it's good. Well, that's because we don't see him very much. I think, yeah. And you know what, a lot of Euro Tourga.

So maybe I'm off base there. He had a lot of kick-in birds and he had, he's got a really bad reputation from the Euro Tour. I'll just say that. So, all right, well, before we move on, I want to shout out something. We gotta talk a little bit of Augusta.

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Anything else on? I appreciate you, you stand and buy as I got through that. I want to take this opportunity to just shit on Boutras, Boutras, Trikali. Well, you might have to tell people who Boutras, Boutras, Trikali. God, I watched the Alley G, Boutras, Boutras, Gali interview this week, because you kept

leaning about Boutras, Boutras, Gali. So good. That's a Randy special. He's always called him. Boutras, Boutro's Golly interview this week because you kept cheating about Boutro's Boutro's Golly. So good. That's a Randy special. He's always called him. Boutro's Boutro. I just, I have no, I was talking about Cameron's Golly. I have no issue with Cameron's Golly as a person.

He sounds like a great guy. It seems like he's injected a lot more personality into his play. My only thing is like, he's been on tour for how long and like, what have you done, man? Well, it's a double edged sword, right? We celebrate a lot of the guys who, you know, never lose their card and, you know, stay in the system, but the system's kind of set up for guys that already have their card.

Well, I thought I saw another great stat from the PJ tour getting social. 296 starts without a win is the most on tour active player. It's like some skimcandle shit followed by Ricky Barnes at 292 and Chad Campbell followed it with 291 starts without a win. Do you guys know who has the most starts without a win ever? Skipcandle. Pregnibaird.

I think it is Pregnibaird. Do you not have the answer? I did. Now I can't find it. You know what folks, if you know the answer, hit us up. Can't find the answer. Yeah, we're having trouble finding the answer. I thought I had it written down, but I must have,

I thought the teacher had left, I'd left that in the notes for the substitute, but he's, he's having an hard time fighting it. This is still in the stuff. Just put on a movie. No an art time fighting it. This is still the stuff. Just put out a movie. No, our lesson plans. Why are you trying to teach us stuff? Just put out a movie.

The lesson plan sticks. So that's on that's on that's on Stolly. All I'm saying is, Chingale had like, I had Sean Martin text to me. I had people saying, oh my god, Dringale is going to do it at a five shot lead at one point. People coming out, he's big strong man, and the streets coming up the trail.

I know how this is gonna end, man. Like he finished T9. It's what he does, and he flushed one on the part three on the front of the day. And I think that's fair, T.C. But I would also argue, I brought the 296 start to that a win, not to flamethrower Dringale. I find that to be incredibly impressive.

Like, the, it's similar to like, like Tommy Armour III won twice on tour, but it's spanned like 23 years. And like, you have to play so consistently to keep your car right season. Yeah. To keep your car to not win a tournament. Like, it's all about winning, then you get the two years, the breathing room, and all of that. So to be able to have the longevity without winning a golf tournament, to me is very impressive. I agree.

So I know you wanna hang on bootrest, but. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Let me ask you this. Question from Josh Coaks. Did Tringali shoot himself in the foot with his own finger guns today? He was doing the shooting again. A little bit.

Yes. And you know, like he finished third at C Island. Obviously T9 this week, T7 at Pebble, T17 at Phoenix. So he's had a good, like he's playing good golf. He finished T3 in Minnesota last year. But it's just a matter of like, the guys, the guys putting up 25, 30 starts a year. And he's, you know, might get two top tens and he's just always in that hundred, you know, 125 slot and that's where we've lobbied for the death panel in the past. So we don't need to re-illegate the death panel.

We've... You can't, that's a pretty harsh term to bring up. Well, it's basically just like, we can just let that go. Figuring out how to get new blood on the tour. Yeah, okay. A little bit more often. It's when you get the, yeah, the unbiased panel,

I'm being drawn, we should have carpalon should be able to tap guys on the shoulder. Hey, you're out. You're good for a while. You can come back in like three years, but you need to take a breath. You're good at last chance, kitchen.

Exactly, last chance, that's a great commissioner for a day idea. Yeah. Which is coming, I promise. Okay, so question for you guys. Anybody else you want to call out from golf today? The honorable mention that cuts your attention. Good to see honor, Bonley Harry, playing well. It was, great mustache too.

Yeah, what's your tweet about that? I really appreciated that was a strong look from him. Luke is clever, absolutely flushing the ball. Of course. And it's in putts woodland good to see him playing well. Yeah, beach anybody. No, I got not let's get into the ladies. Okay, all right, let's go to the, let's go out to Palm Springs, the and a brick. Riki finding some form. That was good. Rick and I mean, Ricky playing well, I mean, Rick, Ricky playing well. Well, it's cool.

I mean, it was his one, you know, I had a Thursday at a tough day. Shot 76, 68, 69, 70. That was a tough, like, here's a chance to play into the masters and shoot 76 in the first round is tough. I think with Ricky, this has to be a pretty emasculating time for him, right?

Where, like Mercedes is one of his biggest sponsors and he's, like he does with them during Augusta and he's like not there right masculine humbling yeah yeah yeah yeah it's not the right word I don't know I mean I'll be I don't know if it has to do with this man yeah but I see we're going with that for sure yeah it got kind of like when Steve Kerr was announcing a sons game He said somebody got neutered It's like wait, I don't think that I don't think that's the right term there Hey, what let's go to the a and a we're going out to Palm Springs first first major of the year for the LP GA

one of five one of five. How about that? Patty to have a tannicate there you. With her first career win after STC alluded to what three starts, three wins and 11 starts in the Cometrator in 2019. 2019. And then like kind of the rookie season last year. Cases, Ricky of the year, they didn't give it out because it was, you know, it's like a super season same, same deal this year, but yeah, she's fucking stud. Absolutely mashing it.

Just just overpowering the golf course. Just jarring how much speed there was in the golf swing, how far she's hitting the ball, how like unflapable she looked. Solid did an awesome interview with Pernilla Lindbergh early in the week, past A&A champion, talking about a lot of great stuff, the golf course and all kinds of things.

But what was really relevant this weekend was, she was also talking about, you know, Pernilla had never won an event on the LPGA, was wired, wired winner, I believe, and also was trying to get, you know, so Sala's asking her about kind of, getting comfortable, what's it like going to bed on Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night,

Sunday night, and she was kind of saying, you know, it actually like honestly got easier, because their playoff went into Monday. She's like, it honestly on Sunday night, and she was kind of saying, you know, actually, like, honestly got easier because their playoff went into Monday. She's like, it honestly on Sunday night, like, it got easier because I had the lead for the whole week. And so I kept thinking about that as, as Patty had this massive lead all week, you know, it's, it's crazy to, you know,

the first win on tour being a major is just a weird, it's a weird path. And, uh, Patty's was obviously a lot different than Pernilla's who came a little later in her career, but yeah, like nothing but fully impressed. It was a complete clinic. To me, she feels a lot like everybody expected Merne Fossey to come out and dominate or play really well in the heels of, you know, she's SEC player of the year. She finished second at the

ANWA last year or two years ago. Super long. All that. This is like, how do you, how do you want to UCLA? Two time all America, like first team all America, three wins and 11 starts on Symmetra in 2019. And then like T5 or T5 at the 2018 US women's open, she shot 61, two years ago in an LPGA event as well. 61 when you're not even a member of the tour. That's some can't lay shit. Didn't can't lay do that. Shot 60, that's traveling.

That's travelers, one guy. Another UCLA person as well, but can I get down? Yeah, I was just blown away. away like she's she's got swagger she's got rock in the aviators. Yeah, she just killer look. She was dripping in like 10 12 footers for she made some all time like up and downs to like the one on 16 today. First off, awesome day of golf. Yeah, spieth win right into primetime LPGA coverage on the West Coast. That was a fun, you know, the energy was great, especially because, you know, we kind of thought Patti,

you know, she was up by so much on Friday and Saturday. It was kind of like, oh man, she's gonna run away with it like this is, you know, it's fun to witness greatness and first win, but then Lydia Coe comes out of nowhere. Yeah, unbelievable. It makes it interesting. So shoot 62 historic round.

I think Ty, I think someone else... Ty's the low, I believe it. Ty's at A&A. Fun around, yeah. Yeah, and put some heat on patty. So she had to put what to go 10 under through 11? Yeah, she had to go put on 11. That would have put her 10 under through 11.

And she got you almost made that like 25 footer on 18, which was left on the high side, pro side miss there. So that was a ton of fun to watch. And an excellent chance DJ sent an article over like 25 footer on 18, which was left on the high side, pro side miss there. So that was a ton of fun to watch. And an excellent chance, DJ sent an article over from Kevin Van Volkenberg from 2018, how a golfing prodigy Lydia co-lost her way.

I didn't, I wasn't up to date on the story with Lydia co, but just some stats that stuck out to me. She's only 23 years old. She's won 15 times on tour with two majors and she hasn't won since 2018. So, you know, when she was 20 years old. She's only won once since 2016. And it's just a weird story. I mean, it's, it's, I think very easy to for casual fans, which, you know, I'd say we're slightly above casual fans, but it's, it's easy even still for us, I think, see Lydia Coe's name on a leaderboard

and just kinda think like, oh yeah, you know, Lydia Coe and Jessica Corta, and they're just kinda the big names. And it's like, no, she had a much different path than everybody. She won when she was 15 on the LPG. She was the number one player in the world when she was 17.

She's also two majors when she was 19. Like it's nuts. And the fact that she's lived another, you know, two lives since then and she's only 23 still. It's just, it's a crazy saga. It's also the counterpoint to speed. Totally. Keeping all your stuff together and, you know,

she's done the exact opposite of that and gone through a dozen at least caddies and different swing coach. Like, I was blown away when Rania and I were at the US women's open in Houston in December. And I mean, the work that she was putting on was Sean Foley. Like, they were grind, it was a major week. They were outside grinding. I don't know if it was impressive, but it was almost shocking to see that level of like technical work being done during a major week.

Yeah. You mentioned the KVV article, but I mean, I would strongly, we tweeted from the main account, but I would strongly recommend looking that up. Just great stuff from David Leadbetter in there, kind of talking about her parents and how involved they are. I'm sure a lot of the stuff is a little bit outdated at this point. I know the story's three years old, but it's just a very well reported wild saga, man. Got a great GCQ from Billy Ho in there too. Shout out to KVV for doing the digging. But no, that was awesome context watching the back nine today. I think also just looking at Patty,

she's had a good year thus far. She probably should have finished a lot higher in like she had a really bad final round at the Gain Bridge. Yeah, she's in the final group, I think. Yeah, and you know, like was right in the mix and kind of folded. So I think she learned from that and is really like, so Justin Silverstein, the USC coach,

replied to a tweet I had today and said, hey, like check out this final round scorecard from the onica event, like the onica collegiate event in 2018. Patty started the final round, round three, one over through six. And then birdies seven and nine. Make the cut it or make the tournament one under and then birdies 10 11 12 13 14 15 par 16 par 17 Eagles 18 to win by one Yeah, she shot 28 on the back to win by one. It seems like a true a true bomb threat

just you know fearless don't don't let them get hot type of player because that was that was what was crazy to me was you know a lot of players can mask it pretty well. You know, you don't totally know what's, what's going on and they can kind of camouflage their feelings a little bit, but she looked totally unflappable. And the whole idea of just coming in and, you know, having a five shot lead, never winning on the LPGA before coming, having a five shot lead coming into the, the final round of

a major, I think, I think it was Inbee Park. I was reading some quotes from her where she was kind of describing what it's like to have a big lead going to the final round. She's like, honestly, it's like more stressful because you know that if you lose, like it's only your fault. It's going to have to be spectacular. Yeah, like you're in complete control and if you lose, like you fucked up. I don't think she said that. But that's the idea. Whereas when you've got a one-shot leader,

you're tied or whatever, it's kind of like, yeah, it's golf, anything can kind of happen. And so anyways, to do all that, and then essentially Lydia Coase, kind of a freakish outlier with her 62, but essentially increased her lead on the field with a Bogey Free 68. It's just wild.

One to be like, I mean, say young Kim, Nelly, Sean Sean Fang, Jin Young Co, NB Park, like they were all in the top 10. Like, bunch of really, really good players. Dogs at the door. Yeah, and yeah, so I don't know. It was a great week. I will say, I know she won there,

and I know she likes the course. It's not a good golf course. Like what's the, it doesn't, it's a friend of the program and all that. But like, it doesn't look like an interest. I just watched that golf course

and like actually 18 looked a lot better. I think 18 is very interesting. And 16 looked, look interesting too, but otherwise, what the fuck like this is, this is not a good golf course. Just seems like it's in great shape.

I think everybody likes going there. And it's got the history. Yeah, exactly. Like going back to the history of the course. It just seems like it's in great shape. I think everybody likes going there. And it's got the history. Yeah, exactly. Like going back to the history of the course. Yeah, I looked up the history and really just the Wikipedia for Korean artists, but the A&A inspiration, formerly known most recently as the craft

and abisco championship, which was actually stuck out to me because it shows up in barbarians at the gate that book about the RGR and abisco. That's a great book. Great book. And the CEO's playing in the pro-amounted of the A&A. Yeah.

And still sometimes referred to, still sometimes referred to as the Adina Shore. Dina Shore. Dina Shore. God, I guess on that one. God, I had it right. I actually spought about that. But fucking movie on it.

It was one of the five major championships of professional women's golf and first major of the season. In event of the LPGA tour, it is held yearly at Mission Hills Country Club. So it's just kind of one of those, it's always been there. Kind of mission. There's some cool stuff on like,

Brendan Porath and A&J Johnson did a good deep dive. They're Friday deep dive into the event. I was listening to this week and some interesting stuff about the Colgate the coal gate folks And how they got involved and juice the purse and then ended up using a bunch of the players in the In the advertising for coal gate and like kind of all the executives who wanted to do it kind of got laughed out of the building and Yeah, cool. They ended up, you know, paying off in a really big way. All of chairman David David Foster Not David Foster Wallace.

No, not the writer. Founded it in 1972 with Dynas Shore. And yeah, they just basically doubled the part like back in 1972, they just said, we're just gonna pay the winner double so that it was just like boom. There's some great stories about like. Which is sweet.

The winner, you know, making more that week than they made the whole rest of the season. It was just talking to Travis Hill about it on our Palm Springs trap drop. So it's, it's lesbian, Lollapalooza, or at least it used to be. It used to be. It used to be. Yeah. I mean, it was very much like, I mean, Palm Springs is LGBTQ, you know, friendly place and hotspot for all that. And it was kind of like their, their spring. Well, it's out of like their spring. Well, it sounded mean.

From what it was cool seeing. It was real as saying. It sounded like it was like the end of the palm springs season, too. Like for the snowboards. Everybody's going back to Minnesota. All right, this is the end of the year party for see how it went. For wintering here.

Yeah. So good vibes. Which is tough because I think there were no, you know, no fans out there. Yeah, it was tough to go from the telecast was, you know, that's just, especially going from, from Valera, where they did have, you know, you could feel some, some energy out there from the crowd.

Well, especially just having such a golf being played too. That was a bummer to not, not have much juice. I can't, I just, it's so good to have Judy Rankin back in the house. Yeah, she's, she's a total crowd. And Terry Gannon, I mean, that's a good one too. Those two, I'm just like, it's the best. And then yeah, it was, so I guess before we segue into NWA, it's just such an untenable situation

between those two right now, it seems like, because you've got all the major, most of the major golf writers went to Augusta. They're going to Augusta anyway. Most of them went to Augusta yesterday or two days ago and they were covering the Saturday round at Augusta National.

And it's just, I feel like something's gotta give there and it doesn't feel like it's going to be a gust of national. Yeah, it's a tough situation where it's one of those things that I feel like a gust that does a lot of stuff, maybe less and less now, it kind of seems like they're they're sort into, you know, in the post-billy paint. Yeah, it seems like they're kind of trying to clean up their perception a little bit at least, but I don't think this is something they're doing maliciously.

Maybe that's giving them too much credit, but it's like, man, it does work. It works so well for everything else, right? With media already being there and with the drive-ship and putt, and with all that kind of stuff with TV. I mean, it just gets everybody ramped up, like ready for the masters.

It kind of drafts off of the masters juice a little bit, you know, with just getting people revved up for like an early look at the golf course. And I know we'll talk about on one, the telecast and all that, but it's, it sucks though that players have to choose. And because you know, such a big part of the A&A's history is kind of inviting the premier amateurs and, and given them a chance to play in a major. And it just sucks. It's a really shitty situation.

And it's hard for, it's hard to look at an event that has such good history on the LPGA because there's a lot of great history on the LPGA, but there's also a lot of tournaments that have closed down or moved around or had to dissolve or whatever. And it just sucks to look at kind of the gold standard, I guess,

for lack of a better term on the LPGA and be like, yeah, all right, cool, it's up to you guys. You should probably move if you don't like it. Which I don't think is really the issue or the intent, but that's obviously how it comes across. Think about like Rose, Rose Zhang, for instance. Yeah. You know, she know, she finished top 10 at the inspiration last year as a 16-year-old, this year she played at Augusta.

It's just one of those things where it puts those women in a shitty spot, right? That's what should matter. You know? It's an untenable position, I think, is well said. I mean, it just feels like a little bit of a stalemate right now. So before we get to the Amwa, anything else on the ANA, you guys want to any honorable mentions?

I want to for sure shout out Sean Sean Fang. I mean, that was good to have good to have a back. Good to have her back. She had to play to turn him in 16 months. She had just like some great quotes on Thursday. She came out. I think she was in second or something on. She's got good energy.

On Thursday. Great energy. She was talking about quarantine life and just kind of summed it up as like, honestly, like you wake up and she's like, I got a pretty good like delivery, too. And you wake up and you're like, what should I have for breakfast? And then you eat breakfast and you're like,

all right, I guess the next thing is like, what should I have for lunch? Did you make lunch? It's like, all right, I guess the next thing's like, what should I have for lunch? Did you make lunch? It's like, all right, only thing left is dinner. I mean, I guess we'll figure out what to make for dinner and then you kind of go to bed. It's like, that's quarantine. And I thought that was, that made me laugh.

Pernilla. But then she played great, I should say, also. Finished T14, 69 and 68 on the weekend. And then I just wanna give a shout out to Megan Kang. Matt Megan, about a year and a half ago now at the, down in Naples, raining out into podcasts with her. I was so impressed with her. Her game slow and steady. She's just starting to like rack up top 10s and top 20s. And she's gonna, she's gonna be a force. So I couldn't be more impressed. Shout out. Love it. Well, we were talking a little bit about Lydia Coe, absolutely grinding on the range. I know another guy around here

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Did that inspire you to figure out what your stock yard is are cuz she's got that yeah She's got a great card on the back or her caddy Shane specifically has a great card on the back. Yeah, it was just... I really needed a little bit more of a data set, you know? Just like, hey man, how far does my A-dion actually go? I know how far I think it goes, but I don't seem to be scoring very well. So maybe the issues with me. Sure, you need some benchmark.

You need some benchmarks. And honestly, what really got me dialed in on it was the wedges. That was the biggest instance of just like, man, I know what 75 yards looks like to my eye, but I have no idea what club that is. I don't know how far I'm taking my club back. A lot of that stuff in Rapsido makes it super, super easy to set up at the range and just see if you can hit 80 yard shots, 82 yard shots, 92 yard shots, whatever you need to work on. It just helps you build a baseline for what you're trying to do.

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Walking, she's getting a lesson, she's doing something golf related, and I'm really proud of her. She stinks. She's just a worst green reader. I'm a good man. And I love her, but she's really embracing the game of golf. And it's kind of like rewarding to watch her do that.

So Tron took my mom, I was the mom, she had not been to our mom since 1985. When Bernhard Longer was. Of course. Yeah. They went like seven days in a row in 1985 and then, but it was, I've been to Augusta, I'm probably eight to ten times between, you times between just going, our next one, everyone growing up had, he was a volunteer, he had badges, and he was very generous.

Shout out to Chris Marsh. Yeah, and then I dated a girl for a while, she had her family had badges, and then just, you know, over the last few years, it was... It was Condoleezer Rays. Exactly. I've gone to some rounds.

So I've been to a pretty, I've never been in Sunday, but I've been every other day of the week. I can confidently say this was the most enjoyable, most easy-going day I've ever had there, where I struggle with the practice rounds, because there's, like, nobody's trying to get the ball in the hole.

Sure. You're just wandering around out there basically looking at the golf course and seeing some guys hit some tee shots. Take your pictures. Yeah. And then Saturdays are really, really crowded or, you know, just everybody gets bunched up on the back, you know, on the back nine wanting to watch the leaders play Thursday and Friday

during the main master's tournament are great. But just the combination, it was super cold in the morning. We drove up there from Jacksonville, left it like 4.30 and it was, they had a frost delay. It was like 30 degrees. I mean, so I'm sure that some of the asalias will be, like the flowers will be falling off early this week

because they were in perfect shape and then it got super cold. I hate that. But it put them vacuum covers over. And before I forget, like the course, like the first thing I noticed out there was just like, you know, having been there, like eight or ten different years, the course looked as good as I've ever seen. Like it was, it was as bouncy and firm and crispy as I've ever seen. Like it was, it was as bouncy and firm and crispy as I've ever seen it.

It was remarkable. Just, it seemed nipier, right? So I mean, I could not be more excited for next week, or really for this week. I think it's gonna be, as long as we dodged some thunderstorms Thursday, Friday, it's gonna be in as good a shape as it's been in a decade. That's exciting.

Yeah, it's very exciting. It's sweet. We should mention on the go up front, Subasa Kajitani. Well hold on, yeah, I'm gonna go there. Was your winner? Yeah. Just, you know, to cover our bases.

Oh, we're gonna get there. I'm gonna pull it off. Yeah, I got a whole right up here. So it was really interesting because there was, there's only 15 groups, right? There's 30, there's like 25 or 30 women that make the cut. 30. Yeah. So they play the first two rounds of champions retreat and then they take Friday off and have a practice round at Augusta and then they get one round at Augusta, which psychologically, that's insane. Right. Imagine like, you know, going,

and then you're switching caddy midweek too. So a lot of these, a lot of these girls, they've had a coach or a parent or a friend on the bag at Champions retreat and then they get to Augusta and they switch to, you know, one of the Augusta caddies. Well, they all get a local caddy for their practice round and then it's up to them whether they want to keep them for Saturday or, or get rid of Matt for Saturday and bring in their

preferred. That was interesting, wrinkle. So that was super interesting where you've got, you know, like, um, Migliace, her, her mom was on the back. Her mom was in all America. Good player in her own. Great player in her own right. Um, we'll get to her. But Chad lambs back caddy for Cajatani, the winner.

Actually, interestingly, he had Cady for Takumi Kenaya, the Jaffe. Really? The Fina? Yeah, previously in the Master's. So he had had some experience with Japanese Cady's. Will Cheney had a great write-up in the Gusto Chronicle on that. But I was blown away, like standing on 18 green, seeing him, I mean, she like, Codartani does not speak English at all. She's got, you know, they brought the translator in and all that and him throughout the round.

No, no, no, no, no, like, but like that was going to sit there. But like, but like him reading the greens. Yeah. And he's, you know, he's pointing at a very specific spot. And that two pot that he had, or that she had on 18, like from that back shelf down to the plate there. Yeah, it was unbelievable. Insane, like we were staying right behind there and he's 16, 18 feet over to the right

and she trusted it. Like I cannot give her enough credit where like it's the kind of put where you would be playing it. A nice club with crazy greens and the caddies telling you to hit it there and you're like wait, you want me to hit it there? What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you insane? And she hit it there at perfect speed and it was it was remarkable like the commitment that that took from her. But it was yeah, so the kind of working backwards from there,

we walked in, we followed Megliaceo and the French girl. Oh, God, she made like seven birdies. Like, we kind of lucked out, because we followed Megliaceo, because her coach, Coach Lu Luel and from Wake Forest It was Lauren Cogland's coach at UVA right and met her at the At the US women's open in Houston and then you know just figured hey, let's follow one of her players And then we walked the first you know four or five holes with her and

We got totally lucky because she got off to unbelievable start. She birdied I think she birdied one and two or one and three. And then she was kind of right in the mix from there. Pauline Roussand Bishard was the player. He's hitting this shit out of it. She was hitting it 30 yards past Mingliaccio, which I guess is the reason why Mingliaccio, who's a highly decorated amateur and collegiate player, is not going professional. She's got an internship with golf channel this summer. It's partly because she has no length

and everybody's hitting it so far past her, and she's just kind of sick of it. Yeah, Polin mitz seven birdies in her one round in Augusta, which is sporty. Yes. So she's a sophomore in South Carolina. Yeah, seven birdies So she's a sophomore in South Carolina. Yeah, 7 birdies. She shot 70.

I just, she was, like, five bogies, 7 birdies and what, six powers, I guess. She was so blessed to watch. She had a great personality, just fantastic. And then, it was such a, by the time we got to 10 or 11, so we walked the front nine, then we walked, walked up to seven, a student extra seven, it was a mega funnel panel on seven. And, but it was such an intimate experience. Like normally at Augusta, you know, a lot of locals will say like over the last 10, 10,

12, 15 years, they've upped the amount of tickets for the big tournament every year. And so it's gotten to where it's less and less personal, less and less intimate. And I have never been able to just sit there and like marvel at all the little nooks and crannies and all the little, you know, humps and bumps and rolls on, you know, standing five feet from the fringe on seven green and watching balls come into it.

Like you could never, you would have to camp out there all day long at a master's round. And how much of that do you think was, because it was the on one, how much do you think was, because you know, limited number of fans from COVID.

I think it was mostly limited number of fans from COVID. There's no grandstands out there in this year. There's no, you know, it's so it's a truly like, you're watching the course just in and of itself. There's no grandstands out there. Again this year, there's no, you know, so it's a truly like, you're watching the course just in and of itself. There's no, there's not a whole lot of stuff chopping up the course or whatnot. Maximum freedom, like if you want to walk over to 12

and sit right on the ropes and watch and stand 10 feet behind them while they hit shots into 12 or behind 15 or the ultimate freedom there, which I've never experienced. Normally you got to plan out your day and plan out, hey, we're gonna follow these people on the front nine and then we got to move to the back nine and pick out a spot. Right.

The other thing was just, I was talking to Ryan Lavner about it. I saw him on 18 and it was really, really hard to figure out where to go or who to watch because after Rose Zhang hit the, you know, had her disaster on 13, which for those that didn't watch, she was in complete control all day. Pulse her drive left on 13.

They didn't have a spotter down there somehow. And it fell into the creek, but they never found it and nobody saw it. And so she had to go back to the tee and drop. Or go back to the tee, re-t, hits it into the fairway down the right side, has like two, probably two, two of nine, two 10 in. And I remember turning the mom and saying like,

wait, she's going for it? Like this is fucking insane. And she had, and there was a little bit of a wind in and she hit she had a good shot and it just came up probably two yards short and bounces back into the hazard and makes an eight. And she's the far and away number one player in the world like you talk to AJGA people you talk to college coaches you talk to LPGA folks and I like you know like I mean she she finished top 10 at at the A&A last year.

And she's 17, she's graduating from high school next month. She'll be a freshman at Stanford allegedly next year. And it sounds like she's going to go, go to Walker, seems, you know, confident that she'll go for at least one year. And she sounds like wise beyond her years. And she wasn't distraught or wasn't, you know, she was upset after the round, but it sounded like she kind of took it in stride, where she made an eight, and then she came back on 14 and buried the next hole. Yeah.

And it was... Hit it to like two feet. I don't know anything about that. Yeah, and it was so, you know, there was definitely some resilience there, but you know, everybody says like she works, she works her ass off, she's, like it's not just talent, smart, she's personable, she works her ass off. She's, it's not just talent, smart.

She's personable, she has perspective on things. And why did you say that it was reckless for her to go for it there? She's hitting her fourth shot. So at that point, she had, she was the only player on her par at that point. She think she was up, you know, it was tough to know because I can't say enough good things about Augusta,

not having your cell phone on you. And it's one thing, like during the tournament, whenever it's fall in the tournament, it's not anything like, when you're out here like this singular day for women's amateur golf, and you're just kind of immersing yourself into it. And there's every single person you meet is fully present. Sure.

Like nobody is drifting off or looking down at their device. Everybody is just totally in the moment. And it's the most refreshing thing ever. But it was just tough to know like, you know, where exactly she's sat. But I think watching the telecast, I think Fred Gard was either tied with her or just maybe a shop behind.

But to your point, she was, she was in pretty good control, especially with the par 5 solo play. Yeah, and so, you know, basically it was, hey, lay up, and then, you know, you try to make, you know, you basically try to make a six, and then you lay up your fourth, hit your fifth, you know, up to the green, and then try to try to make a six if not a seven. Like you're bringing eight out of play, right? And then she made an eight, like, lip the pot. And I mean, I hit a pretty good chip in there.

And then it ends up birding 14, kind of a sloppy bogey on 17 which was and then I was blown away like hit a exceptional drive and a Like a ballsy second shot into 18 it was it was really really impressive to see her hit that shot into 18 Mrs. The pot it was just a tough pot, but well until your point finished a shot out of the playoff after You know making an 8-7 a shot out of the playoff after, you know, making an eight. Make seven years in the playoff. Well, and so I think, well, and then six players finished one shot off the lead. Right.

So it was like, like, there's all this shit is happening really, really rapidly. So we sat on 12 and watched, it was, it was crazy because 11 was playing really easy. Like it was a, like a middle right pin. A lot of the players are, they're hitting down there pretty far and they've got, you know, I'm not sure what, they looked like eight or nine irons in and they're hitting great shots in there. And then, and then they're coming to 12 and a lot of these women hit draw.

Like most of them draw the ball. At least that's their stock shot. And with the wind, the wind was kind of in off the right. And it switched like four times when we were sitting down there. Like it was the truest sense of like the wind does crazy shit out there. It was really, really hard to hit a draw in there. And so I would say probably 50% of the shots that we saw go in there. We're long left in the pine straw and then rolled back down into the grass there.

But yeah, that was one of the things where seeing how the course plays differently, like the drive on one where they had to, they're aiming right at that bunker and trying to draw one off the bunker or the drive on 18 was really really tough because mostly they're a draw here draws and You know most of them are one hopping into that bunker so many people in that book are you know what length were they playing? They're playing the members tease. I think they're like 60 60 250 6300 You know on some spots, like number three, members' teas in the same spot as the masters' tea.

But you know, sevens, but radically different whole. Or, and there's a pretty big disparity between, like, you know, some of these women, they use length to their advantage and some are just dead straight. And, you know, they're only hitting it, 225, 230. So, you know, very, very kind of wide dispersion there.

So yeah, in my nose, I had Emma Spitz. She bogeyed the last two, but birdied 12 and 13. She's a UCLA sophomore, she's Austrian. She's kind of, she's probably kicking herself. Like that, that was the thing. It was like, there's so many, they get one round, one shot at this, and there's so many of them that are probably sitting there thinking, oh my God, I gotta get back there next year because

this is, I wish it was two rounds after the cut, because that's gotta be so hard, not only adjust to a new caddy for a lot of them, but also just getting reps out on the course. That was one of my big takeaways. I watched the broadcast, which was awesome. We can talk about it in a second, but it was the idea of going there with a local caddy and not using it is mind-blowing to me because you've got, like, in a vacuum

or kind of from the outside looking in, the putting was really bad, right? Or it looks really bad on TV. There was not a lot of people making putts. And a lot of that is just like, okay, cool, well, you're playing the most intricate, like hardest to read, greens on the planet. And so that's where it just kind of blew me away

as some of the people who decided not to take a local caddy. That would be a nightmare. This idea of like, all right, play one practice round and then try to solve it for, you know, the biggest round you've played in your career up to this, to this moment. And you saw a lot of that, which was interesting. But what was cool about the telecast, I loved, I thought Golf Channel did an awesome job with the actual telecast having, particularly like, you know, bones and Trevor Imelman on the broadcast. I mean, it was extremely like two guys that are like,

yo, you guys can speak very, very specifically to Augusta National in a way that, you know, Bill McAtey and Vern are great, but it's like, you know, those bones can give me like, oh man, where she's at in that fairway is so much better for this reason because she knows she can use that backslope. Trevor was doing a great job of like every year,

I would try to hit it exactly there. She's a little further right of where I would try to be. Like they were awesome, man. It was really, really fun to watch. Bones was working hard out there, too. Yeah, and he was all over the place. Well, that's what I was going to say to your point. It was like there's so many people thrown up,

you know, within such a tight lead that they were constantly like, all right, Bones has made his way over to this group. Oh shit. All right. Now he's over in this group. And it was such a throwback because you're, you were looking at these scoreboards like and as soon as they throw a new number up, oh shit, let's go over here. Like, let's, let's walk as fast as we can up to up to 17 green. So we stood behind 17 green for probably another, you know, 30, 40 minutes watching hate here and that. But it's thinking andina hate here. And there's nobody there.

There's so many like it was a cool pin kind of back left there. There's so many or middle left. I guess there's so many, you know, players just taking dead aim with wedges. So many of them coming up short. Long was dead. Kajitani had such a relatable train wreck on that hole. Just perfect. It was the type of hole I've played just so many times.

It was like, yeah, you just kind of lazy, hit it in the fairway, great. And then you just chunk the shit out of your second shot. She was 20 yard short. And then just like bad shit, bad putt. Oh my God, I've made a six all of a sudden like three on three Just going through to like Rachel heck she's a Stanford freshman. She's from Memphis. She bogey to 18 To miss the playoff by one. She birdied 12 14 and 15 way there

Karen like Karen Fredgard. She's Danish. She birdied, nine, eleven and thirteen and then bogied fourteen, doubled fifteen and bogied eighteen. Um, she's a, she's a sophomore at, at Houston. Lynn Bladnuk, the ball. I don't know if you followed her at all. We talked about Rose. We saw a lot of Lynn Blad. Yeah.

She was really impressive. She had a birdie on, on thirteen while everything was going on with Rose because it took forever for her to look for the ball and then she got to get another ruling when she hit it in the hazard and then kind of went back on the line. She's a sweeter sophomore at LSU, very impressed with her. The Irish girl, Olivia Haffey, she's at Arizona State. I believe she's a fifth year at Arizona State. She was in a great spot. She was in total control.

Burdies at seven and eight. And then she bogeyed nine, bogeed 10, doubled 12, like really, really bad shot on 12, like super nervy. Yeah, that was like in the middle of the water. Yeah, I can't stress enough too. Like if I ever hit it in the water on 12, I would go back as far,

I would go back to a number. I would never, ever, ever chip in. Oh, from right there. I'd go back to 75 yards or 85 yards or whatever your comfortable stock sandwich is or whatever. That is the most uncomfortable shot. That green looks like it's three feet deep.

Gosh, Maya Stark, like she's sweet. She was super impressive at the US women's open last year. She won the rounds of the day. She had six birdies, shot 69. We watched a lot of Beatrice Wallin. She birdied one and two. She doubled 13, which kind of took her out of it, but she's a junior at FSU.

And then Gina Kim, she had a, she, she hold out from the bunker on 17. After a really tough day, but had two birdies on the back nine. Shot 77, she finished five back, like she was right in the mix, she's at Duke. Yeah, and then actually saw Justin Silverstein out there. He had six players, T.O.F. in the,

in the, in the, in the, USC coach. Yeah, yeah. Six players in the field. He was following Alus and Corpus, who made the cut, but six players on a college team, which I think you only start... Four, five. Five.

Yeah, that's pretty useful. That's pretty useful. Yeah, so he's building a great program there. It was just really, really cool to see, kind of see the golf course more attuned to accuracy and precision versus raw distance. You're seeing them hidden to number two, for instance. Like they were kind of trying to keep it as,

nobody's flying it onto that green and then working it left to right on the green. They're trying to land it short left or get it in that bunker and then they've got, because it was a far right pin. They've got that whole, you know, whole green to work with.

Yeah, it was, I don't know. It was just an unbelievable day of so cool to share it with our mom and. Oh, well thanks, takeaways. She was in heaven. Like, and you know, I think she, she was blown away too at the infrastructure that they've built with Augusta, just, you know, I think she, she was blown away to it, the infrastructure that they've built with with Augusta

Just you know between the parking and the new media center and the new range and I mean, you know, looks a lot different than 1985 Yeah, yeah, yeah, so for a while there on Recept behind 12 for probably an hour and a half and just watch shots into 11 or I'd walk over and get a sandwich and you know, see a second shot on 13 or whatever. But I'm gonna say it once you get. I'm gonna egg salad guy. Big egg salad guy. But I felt like we were sitting in like a public park almost where you're just sitting

there watching like just completely enjoying the day and there's not as much hustle and bustle. And I think again, that was all COVID related and it was all like there was, it was like sharing one of the most beautiful places in the world with 3,000 people instead of 30, 40, 45,000 people. Yeah. Deeds, takeaways, any parting thoughts on the broadcast?

I mean, nothing that I didn't mention are already other than it's just really fun to watch. I mean, nothing that I didn't mention already other than it's just really fun to watch. I mean, I thought Toreco's awesome. Like the whole crew was really, really great. I mean, it's just a thrill to watch other people play the holds that you know so well. I was actually gonna give Toreco a shout out.

True class act professional on the drive trip and put stuff this morning. Watch that when I woke up and just you know what like maybe not the most exciting thing to announce and yeah I appreciate he just treats it like it was the freaking Super Bowl. Yeah I think it's great stuff. Everybody loves loves being a part of that one. I also I think it was K-Cockerel on the on what coverage who She was just, she had like great notes on every player in the field, like very hyper specific notes. Just like, it's good. Yeah.

Look at how, you know, she's, her, her putting stroke gets a little long and slow. Look at how, you know, you see it there. She's trying to do this with her swing. She's trying to do this. I was like, kind of, kind of what you want from the FedEx file. It's kind of what you want just from the broadcast in general. It was awesome. No, it's great. I mean, it's solid. I keep going back to the Solian pernilla podcast, but I mean, it spoke to how cool it would be to get the LPGA playing a golf course that the men play on a very regular basis, whether that's a women's master's, I know it would always be kind of the goal for all golf fans or even like a women's players would be really cool to just just the US Open when they did it.

Pinehurst. Yeah. Like that. There's a, I don't know if it feels like a layup, but like a good use case. Well, I think on that note, I mean, the women go into Pebble Beach in a couple years will be a perfect example of that. It's just it's cool to see other other styles of play playing 12 and playing 13 and playing 15 and it's just, it's

really fun. But there's something to be said though for the back to back weeks. When we're playing Augusta and the men playing the week after Or vice versa, I think that's a, you know, interesting. Yeah, I was trying to work through that in my head a little bit yesterday just, you know, what would be the best, the best compromise for Augusta, right? Where they say, hey, we, you know, we realize we want to have the LPGA. We want to have the best best women players in the world come play here.

Is that through the USGA with the US women's open? Is it through a, you know, a Soul Hime cup? Is it through the... God, that would be awesome. It's going to be such a great match play. Of course, too. Or would it be in like watching 13 and 15 is true risk reward. Just match play holds. Like that talk about like par being irrelevant. Like that's the whole dream. Hey, you have 210 yards into three, or into 13 and you hit your three with like 212 yards.

Like, man, that's a decision. Yeah. Versus like, all right, am I gonna hit a Suks on or a Seven on? Right, yeah. But, you know, or is it the KPMG women's PGA, but I think the thing with those is it's very much a gust of what have to make certain concessions or certain compromises. And as would the host organizations because, you know, with corporate sponsorship or with like they don't want, they don't want somebody else running the show

at their club. Well, the SoulHum cup idea is very interesting because it wouldn't be so much recurring, right? It'd be like, it seems like a gust has been doing some new stuff the last three or four years. It'd be great if they kind of continued to keep the traditions that everybody loves and then like, yo, you don't have to stick to tradition

just cause, right? And a tournament where it's like, yo, you don't have to stick to tradition just cause. Yeah. Right? And a tournament where it's like, you know, an international event that's, it feels like a good test case because it wouldn't be like, all right, we signed up for this for next five years. Yeah, I just, like something,

like figure something out and that's not like a, no mean is like a thread of, it's like, hey, like you're on, you're on like a, no mean it's like a threat of, it's like, hey, you're on like, or else. No, like DC's come. You've done a really, really good thing here and it's a step in the right direction and like, I think if you asked any of the men, like all the green jackets that were out there,

they all seemed like genuinely, genuinely enjoyed. And it was almost a throwback to the Masters of Old back in the 70s, 80s, early 90s, before it was, you know, before he had Berkman's place and before it was as popular and transcendent as it is now. And yeah, it would just be, it'd be so cool to see Nellie Corta or, you know, Soyeon Ru or In Be Park playing be, it'd be so cool to see Nelly Corta or, you know, Soyeon Roo or NB Park like playing those, it would just be, it would, it would elevate the hell out of the women's game. Sure. Basically. Well, good stuff. I know our parents are leaving bright and early tomorrow.

Peg's got to get back for a golf lesson tomorrow. She's, she's, she's, she's jacked up, man. So I hope to keep work on your game, Peg. I don't know if she listened to the pod, but if she does, we're rooting for you and excited that you're into the game. Good week of golf. Good week of golf. Congrats to Jordan. Congrats to Patty Tavitanicat.

Congrats to Steven Yeager. Congrats to Steven Yeager. Winning on the Cornfairy tour. Yeah, sixth career win. Probably not the six wins, like the tour you want six wins on, but at the end of the day, six wins is six wins. Better not have it six wins, yeah.

Exactly. I also like to just tip my hat to the performance that my friend Harrison and I put on a Jack's Beach. Oh my God. Gotten Yalls asses 10, what, 10 ways? 10 ways. Could have been 14 ways. 14 made about five footer to go.

We played so bad on the front. We got our process. We already did better. We had the hang. We've seen out in on the team. I had the hang dog thing going on for a few holes. So did you, but T.C. It's pretty damning when T.C.

makes two natural birds and wins. T.C. you played well. You know what? You didn't get off, you didn't get in any trouble off the tee. And when T.C.'s in the fairway, I mean, because I had water balls on the first two holes. Well, other than that. But I felt like every time, like on number six,

every time I thought you were gonna blow one off the planet, you kinda, you refused to do that. I hit the irons as good as, I'm entering that final stretch here where like I should have got off the pot time. Do you think you're gonna break 80? good as, I'm entering that final stretch here where like I should get off the pot time. Do you think you're gonna break 80? I do.

Really? I got about six, seven weeks left playing lefty exclusively. I think I'm gonna keep the lefty thing going. I got about six or seven weeks playing lefty exclusively. I need to get up North, man. I need to get on to like an old school Donald Ross on some rye or bent grass. And because it's just, you know, skanky half dormant from you to down here. It's just not that tough. That's a tough recipe.

Well, there you have it. Lakes everywhere. Like lakes and bunkers are the only defense here in Florida. Yeah. And we'll win the Jack's Beach. I kind of put it, put out there a blow in, like, at least 15 miles an hour every time. It's hard. DJ, can we play it yesterday? And it's like, I think I'm gonna, I don't know when we're gonna do when the wind's not blowing.

It's just like this constant companion. Every time I play golf, it's just windy. So you're going through some swing changes right now too. I am, I am. But you know what, it's always dark for the dawn. So we're gonna stick to the process. Anyway, Sally, I'm sure everybody is excited to have you back next week.

I know I am, but thanks everyone for tuning in any party thoughts, boys. Big stuff, I mean, it's the masters this week. That's gonna be exciting. I almost just asked you guys before we have on tap. It's a big one. What's the two of them this week? Maybe I buried the lead. No, I totally forgot it was the mess So we'll have what live pot or not live pods, but you know live show after each round those will be turned into pods

Well, of course have the big recap on Sunday night our weekly preview tomorrow Weekly preview tomorrow Tuesday. Yeah, but that'll be a longer one have to get get deep in the pics do some research for sure Of course congratulations for getting out of the pouch this week. Hell yeah. Had to get an air horn in. By the way, I forgot to say like the 14, 15 year old thing with the drivetripping putt. That's not a bit like one guy. They said he was turning 17 and a week and a half.

Well, that was I know I think it left over in bite. You had a fucking beer. You were like, yeah, from New Jersey, get from New Jersey. Disgusting. It's disgusting. Even the announcer's like, yeah, he looks like he could be playing in the master's next week.

It's ridiculous. Like, it's a great event, but like, let's clean it up a little bit here, guys. And then, yeah, and then no symmetrical or this week, which is kind of a bummer. Well, I mean, I think it's a no symmetrical. And no, we, and then no symmetric tour this week, which is kind of a bummer. Well, I mean, I think it's a no symmetric. And we might be preoccupied.

Yeah, we'll have golf at the top. And no plenty of the top. And no plenty of the top. No, I was talking to DJ about it. I could not be more in the symmetric tour. That's great. But I'm in on the masters too. I'm excited.

I'm excited. I'm excited about this week. Also, what was my show up on ESPN? Mm. Sure. I think, oh, so I'm, when's it the first day? I would say maybe watch me, maybe watch the boys might show up on ESPN. Mm. Right. I think, oh, so I'm not. Wednesday, Thursday. I would say maybe watch the, maybe watch the Master's

preview show on Wednesday. Yeah, the ESPN like pre preview, and then I think the pre game, or the pre round show on Thursday. Okay. So, I don't know who knows. Maybe give it a shot. Yeah.

Maybe give a shot, we'll see. So, yeah, I think that's it. Exciting week. You'll probably be sick of us by the end of next week. Yeah, maybe give it a shot, we'll see. So yeah, I think that's it. Exciting week. You'll probably be sick of us by the end of next week. So there you go. Randy actually did move. He did. Randy is now living out west.

The man went west, you know. He got to go find himself, but he still works with us. He still walked. Still part of the squad. There's no, a lot of people, a lot of concern. No lawyers involved work, everything's fine. And hey, why doesn't Randy work for NLU anymore? No, he does.

He's just trying to find himself. He's working remotely. Like, like so many of you are. Exactly. Exactly. So, all right, thanks for listening. So I'll, like, get back here. See y'all.

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