No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 420: Sunday Masters Recap
Episode Date: April 12, 2021Hideki makes it interesting, Xander makes a run, Spieth can't find the hole, and everything else from Sunday at the 2021 Masters. We take listener questions, discuss Augusta, Zalatoris, Rahm, and the ...usual hits. This episode was live streamed on our Twitter and YouTube accounts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I'm going to be the right club today.
Yeah. That's better than most.
How about him?
That is better than most.
Better than most. Neil is here. Sully, it's great to be here. T.C. is here. Always a pleasure, sir. DJ Pi is here.
Great to be here.
And on the line, we don't have five microphones
in the killhouse, so we'll actually have a better
capability to do a five man pod with Randy
in Denver.
Hello Randy.
Hey guys, sorry to use up the listener line each of these days,
but appreciate you guys having me back.
Not only that, the intro took so long
the Calaway has had to unfortunately
seed their time for advertisement
on this podcast this week.
They actually elected in honor of the masters
and the limited commercial interruption.
They could have gone a lot of different ways with that.
They could have told you about the three out of six guys
they had, three out of top six guys,
they had on the leaderboard.
They could have done that.
They could have done what's in the bag for Xander,
Rom, Leish, any of those guys.
Could have just let TC talk about leash, which I think will probably do.
You're going to get that anyway.
But they let them act.
They could have sent you to CalAGolf.com, you know, to check out all the content they
have from Master's League, but they didn't do that, right?
They didn't.
They see their time.
They could have sent well wishes to Joe Ford with their time, limited commercial interruption.
Proud Paul.
Thank you.
Again, we didn't see Joe Ford this year.
I know. I think it's time to be Proud, Paul. Thank you. Again, we didn't see Joe Ford this year.
I know.
I think it's time to be worried about Joe Ford.
A little worried.
Hideki Matsu-Yama is the champion of the 2021 Masters.
And what's your rating?
Rani, let's go to you first.
What is, I feel like you were pretty pumped up there
on Twitter there watching those final few moments.
What a lots of different ways I can go with this take. Let's let's let's play
it straight at the beginning. Very cool. Great for him. Worthy champion this week. Great
for the whole country of Japan. Their first men's major champion. So the caddy moment, I'm
sure we'll talk about that. That was so cool. Yeah. Bit of a big off, though.
I was kind of ready to get on with it about the turn.
I was good, just a little flat today.
Randy, you're just pissed that they're actually
growing the game now.
The game is now officially, it's grown and it's too big.
Yeah, it's getting real big.
You're drinking a lot of milk.
This geney's about to get out of the bottle.
I hope everybody understands the ramifications.
I heard an outrageous number tied to this today.
On, what do we think this means for Hadecki in terms of like
fortune over the course of his life,
in terms of what the master's means in his status as a,
you know, an athlete slash celebrity in Japan.
I heard a B number thrown out for how much it could
mean to him of the course of his life.
That seemed pretty big, but I think it's safe to say
the point being that there's a lot writing on this
in terms of, we probably as Americans aren't familiar with.
We can still talk about an act like we understand
that it's a big deal, but I think it's probably even bigger
than we have grown to understand.
Is that fair to say?
There's a lot of people in Japan.
And they, you know, they ride for their countrymen.
So I'll be tracking the Nomura stock price tomorrow,
the Lexus stock price.
Let's see how the partners are doing tomorrow.
I think that'll be a good test case, you know?
Indeed.
You know, we were both very excited to see
indeed on the color of the...
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, they help people get jobs.
Sorry, maybe the B number was number was was Japanese yen, though.
That's possible. I didn't want to say that.
I didn't want to say that as well.
It was a billion yen.
But I think I think I'm the whole Japan is a sporting culture and as a
point of national pride, like as a percentage of the population,
they're a hell of a lot more in the golf than we are here in the state.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
That's what I said, would definitely seem to be.
And it's interesting watching Hadecki,
this is total projection because, of course,
we don't hear him speak,
we hear him speak in Japanese,
but it seems very uncomfortable with the spotlight.
And I think it comes with just almost like he,
to understand English, probably needs to read lips a little bit.
But like when Xander and Xander's cat ear congratulating he just looks so uncomfortable kind of like what are you saying?
I'm trying to still understand what you're saying to me and interpret what you're saying
It doesn't look like you know
We got a glimpse into what it was like emotionally for him to do that
I think which is what sorry to cut you off that that's what made the
I forget what Jack Furbers calling it the Venice camp. I think the steady cam, the shallow depth of field cam,
that's what made that so cool, right?
It was like there's no one talking to him,
it is just purely him soaking in that moment
and fist pumping with everybody and just trying to wrap
his head around everything and just walking
to go sign a scorecard.
That was awesome, man.
I mean, that moment's always really cool,
but in a weird way, it's almost cooler
when you don't have that long history to go back on
with a guy, right? Where it's just you kind of feel like you're really like seeing this guy have
a big moment for the first time almost even though I know he's won a bunch but he just doesn't feel like,
I'm totally with you, it doesn't feel like we in America at least we really get like a window in,
you know? That was really really really cool. I think conversely though from what it sounds like in Japan
They don't really get a window in either. Yeah, he sounds like he's just notoriously shy and which is okay
Oh totally like I think that's more interesting than somebody like his friend Kevin Nah who's there thirsty Kevin
But like not kitchen straight
there's the Kevin, but like not catching straight.
He's, you know, but yeah, I think that's, you know, he's a very, because he's been under an immense spotlight
for the last decade plus more than, more than I would say,
anybody this side of golf, except for maybe Tiger, right?
It does seem like there's a, whether it's,
he does it to himself, it seems like there's a whether it's he does it to himself. It seems
like there's a lot of weight on his shoulders, you know, pretty, pretty consistently over
the last five to seven years. One thing I noticed in the, in Butler Cabin was, you know,
it's a lot of one word answers until they, until Nance asked about Japan. And I think he
gave the most, you know, thoughtful or it seemed like that's the
one that got him to open up a little bit, which I thought was really interesting. It was
like what you know kind of asked him about his pride and his country and everything. And
you could tell he almost was like that. You could see a little bit of emotion there. So
I thought that was pretty cool. This could be, you know, I'm willing to hand up. I could
be totally outside my depth here, speaking on golf in Japan
and its perception, but I think a lot of the blow up has to coincide with, it was probably
right before this, but a lot of it probably has to coincide with Tiger, and especially
his early career, I would think.
I feel like Japan has been looking for their guy to be that world-beater on a world stage
for a really
long time.
And I think you saw it with, you know, Ishikawa almost kind of getting crushed under
the weight of that.
It seemed like.
And Hadecki, I mean, I feel like it has to even just go up to another notch when you almost
kind of move on from Ishikawa into like, no, no, no, this is a guy.
He's going to be our guy.
And to finally break through on a major just has to,
I don't know, I don't want to say legitimize, but like a lot of the, a lot of that has to feel
really validated, right? With all the media stalking those guys so hard every week. And I mean,
this is, it's a massive, massive deal. It's, it's, I don't know, I hope somebody does a good job of,
you know, I feel like there's always a good, I know Augusta Chronicle did this for a long time
where they would go visit the champions in their hometowns, kind of like
leading up to the next year and a profile on like Hideki following Hideki around in
Japan would be really freaking cool.
And if someone has one, please send it our way.
I'd love to read it.
I'd love to, I hate not knowing anything about Hideki, which is probably on me a little
bit, but like I hate not knowing what golf means to him.
I didn't, you know, they found, Nancy had mentioned his on me a little bit, but like I hate not knowing what golf means to him.
I didn't, they found, Nance had mentioned his wife
and daughter or child, but I had not made,
and we talked about it on the live show, I think last night,
but it is weird to just watch someone that you almost,
I don't wanna say I don't have any emotional energy invested in,
but like I haven't had an avenue in
to invest emotional energy into him.
And I, and now he's a not, he's a major champion.
Well, Tron said something good on Twitter that kind of summed up how I was feeling too,
is like it almost felt like he plateaued a couple years ago.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
A post-hype sleeper.
I'm not feeling like.
Yeah, and he's still, he was still playing as well to green.
It seemed like the putting was going to, was going to swallow him up and really,
you know, just mess with
him psychologically and be a heavy weight that you're gonna crumble under. And the fact
that he not only seemingly overcame it, but that was partly his strength this weekend was
remarkable. Yeah. Well, I was poetic. The put on 18 was poetic. I think just that was
no much to, you know, to the old Hedeke.
Hedeke, you bring something up that's interesting though.
I think, you know, from, this is anecdotal, but it feels like modesty is a high value in
Japanese culture, right?
Like to just be very modest, very, very low-key.
Don't talk about yourself, but then, like you said, the amount of pressure and media attention
that then all of his, you know, country puts on him, but he's not allowed to
react or be pat, he's not allowed as wrong or but, but not supposed to be passionate or
you know, thumb is chest or whatever. It's an interesting
combination. I think that's that that just has to weigh on you, you know, over time, which I think is why Ishikawa turned into such a,
kind of this borderline controversial rock star
was like he was so flashy and so outward with like,
his fashion and I feel like he was,
he let media in a ton and Hadecki almost
just seems like the total opposite.
Everything I've always heard,
it's probably a fairly lazy comparison,
but I've heard a lot of this like,
even from second hand, from Japanese media,
people would always look at Ishikawa like Phil
and Hideki like Tiger,
just in the way that they view their privacy
and the way one is very gregarious
and willing to let people in,
and one is totally just closed off and,
hey, I'm here to do my business.
And I don't know, interesting to see
which one of those two broke through.
It sounds like practice habits too.
I mean, it sounds like he's like,
he's got some epic BJ Singh style,
practice sessions both at home and on the road.
I'd like to attribute this to whoever sent this in earlier,
but also, you know, I'm,
I'm no one's been harder on his putting than I have
because I'm like amazed at somebody
that can be that good and consistent hitting the ball year over year over year and not improve his putting that I have because I'm like amazed at somebody that can be that could inconsistent hitting the ball year over year over year and not improve his putting.
But the stat that was sent in was no one has a greater differential from their average
strokes game putting.
You know, like on bent grass, his differential is the largest variance of anyone on any
surface.
Like he's 0.42 strokes better strokes game putting on bent grass than his normal strokes game putting meaning like he must be
horrible and pass pal and poa and vermuta and like on on Brent he's totally
fun which I found very very interesting I'm trying to think his other major
finishes Aaron Hills he finished second which is probably bent I would guess in
Wisconsin isn't what what is TBC Scottsdale he wins out there like that's
probably overseas overseas to ride.
Yeah.
And then Quail Hollowey, I mean, he was leading after 36 holes at the PGA.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know if he was.
That's just interesting that, you know, I mean his putting stats at our very, very bad.
And he's we're talking about a guy that was number two in the world at one point.
He's talking about a guy and he's now like he's kind of forgotten.
He's been the forgotten man for a couple of years now.
He was the forgotten man on Thursday with us.
That's the thing. This feels like it was supposed to happen four or five years ago.
It feels like it was supposed to happen in 2016, 2017.
He was, I mean, shitty one. How many times you won
waste management in 2016 and then you won HSBC Champions in 2016.
Anyone twice in 2017 as well and anyone in Japan back to back waste management in playoffs
I didn't that I kind of for did blacked out didn't know that I was runner up to Brooks to end up on that
That's crazy speaking of back to back. I mean how about like
I'm about Japan
Yeah, like huge sweeping the Augusta not two weeks in Augusta got I was so roses roses wilting in both
tournaments that we didn't get the Japanese broadcast at the end there I know for the final call
I think they get such a bummer I think they got put on notice that like oh my god we could give
her place yeah yeah what do you think of that yeah I know I know you probably that made you wake up
from your nap maybe oh sorry I was I was trying to ice-signal to DJ that I got
his roses wilting joke. So can you repeat the question to me?
Everybody else got it to the next laugh. I was going to say that when they piped in the
Japanese broadcast in a couple spots on the second nine, I really, that kind of woke
me up. I was like, got some energy. You can tell these guys are locked in, they're hanging
on everything. And then we Icaritoed on 15.
That was an excellent call there by the Japanese duo.
Yeah, I mean, I can jima.
For sure, I really liked your tweet, Neil, when he said,
they just switched the television feed there at the turn.
It would have been a much more entertaining broadcast
down the stretch with the Japanese signal.
They would have been a hell of a lot less breathing.
That's well said.
Kudos to CBS on that.
That was a cool flexibility.
And like when you're trying to really, you know, humanize this guy that people don't
really know much about, I mean, that, what a, that was an awesome idea.
I was really glad they did that.
Just reading, just flipping through to it, I saw Jane Park's tweet.
She said, the respect that Japanese people have for not only people, but places and things
is so endearing and wonderful to witness.
And she says that with a quote, we tweet on the on Hadecki's caddy bowing to the golf course as he as he put the pin in on and the one on 70 the 72nd hole.
I think that's so cool. I think I wish that that's something Japan's that one of the few of one of the places that I've never been that like is sticking out to me is like top on my list
of like, dude, how I not been there? Come on. and that really that kind of thing makes me want to go even more.
And like going back to the golf stuff too, I mean Shibuna winning a couple of years ago on the LPGA smiling assassin.
Yeah, like they're on a freaking run right now.
Yeah, and now they get the Olympics. I mean what better what better timing to take it into Tokyo this summer.
That's what I was going to say to you. I know the Olympics can get a little eye-roly sometimes,
but that's an awesome storyline heading in.
I mean, that's like, that's really cool.
That makes this, that makes, that gives a lot of juice
to the Olympics.
That's probably much needed, at least, you know,
obviously in Japan, for sure, but I would say
much needed more here in America.
I think that's a really fun one to follow.
Well, another fun day to follow will be Olympic blood testing
starts next month. So I imagine we'll see really fun one to follow. Well, another fun day to follow will be Olympic blood testing starts next month.
So I imagine we'll see a few of these interesting.
So I started to clear whether they're in or out.
TC, that's usable intel right there.
Can I propose something?
Can I get to something before you do that?
Yeah, you can.
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Golly. That was a major performance.
That's hard to do live because sometimes listen,
sometimes in the edits we got to we ship that around.
But don't I know today I get it.
All right, and I don't want to hear about draft Kings right?
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Well, get to that, but you had something to propose it.
I would like to say Matt,
you I'm a won this tournament, but I think there was a bit of a little bit. Well, get to that, but you had something to propose it. I would like to say, Matt Siyama won this tournament,
but I think there was a bit of a crowning.
Before we get to Zander, let's break down.
Matt Siyama's play a little bit.
We've talked a little bit about what it means
from a higher level perspective,
but came out and bogey number one,
kind of thought you're gonna let Matt back into it.
Not a good tee shot.
Not a good start. I was talking to try how fast were things moving
Just on his downswi got number one. That had to feel
I'm not ready. I'm not ready. I'm not ready. I'm not ready. Back off back off
He actually kind of kind of lucky that it ended up where it did
It looked like a cut of got all the bushes over there somebody pointed out
This is the first time we you know in three years that there's been the long wait
for the final pairing to go off on Sunday at Augusta.
Yeah, true.
Morning.
Morning in 2019 and morning in 2020 and November.
Burdy's number two played just extremely solid
major championship winning golf in the front nine.
Up in the par on five.
Par on five was unbelievable. Burdy on eight, Burdy on nine. Up and the the par on five. Par on five was unbelievable.
Birdie on eight, birdie on nine. It felt over.
Crazy how few people hit it in that bunker on five.
It feels like, right? I mean, I know it's death
and you're trying to avoid it as much as you can,
but with a whole that's so long where everybody's trying
to just, you know, get it out there as far as they can.
It's that felt like a death sentence.
Great candidate. Yeah, that was.
Yeah, I think I mean,
Leeson Rose, like watching them lay up
in front of those bunkers.
I think that's the play,
because otherwise so many guys are just blasting it
way down the right.
I was impressed with the deck.
He's T-shot into six up on the ridge up there.
Shot into seven.
I mean, he missed like a four footer and a seven, five footer.
And so yeah, that was the only put that he really struggled with.
I felt like all day. No, I would say struggle with the three put it 16.
And that was the first. That was on the t shot though.
Yeah, and seven was glass. I mean, I was, I think that was probably top one or two
fastest greens on the golf course today.
Um, so yeah, it goes into 12 with a six shot lead, made honestly a really
smart bogey because it felt like all he had to do was just not make double there. Just,
you know, hitting that back bunker, chip out to the fringe, two putt, make bogey, you're
fine. The birdie on 13 was insane. Couple lucky breaks in that one. Listen, hitting the
tree very solidly, coming back out in the rough, you know, delofting a five iron and almost
going into the asalias, that all bounced backwards towards the green, going along on I miss
all. And then an insane chip to get that one close to make birdie there. And
then 15, 15 was where the things got a little bit interesting.
235 in, were you guys thinking layup at all? Randy, were you thinking layup?
No, I think, you know, he, he, worst case scenario is what happened,
which is still, you know, you should make a six there.
I feel like lay up brings in a whole host of problems
if you overspin a wedge or, you know, chunk your wedge
a little bit, then you can bring in the seven rate.
I wasn't thinking lay up,
but I was also thinking, put it in that right bunker.
Yeah.
Like that's the, like, I mean,
it seemed like you kind of was going for the dagger there.
And it was like, hey, like what's, you know, why?
Like why go right at that pin?
Maybe just overcooked a little bit,
did the same thing on 13 there.
But I mean, I, I think I understood going at 15 more
than going at 13.
And I think going for two, it's like,
I might as well hit the hard shot now.
And if I hit it in the water,
I'm, you know, I'm one stroke ahead still.
Like I can still get up and down for par.
But long in that water is real bad.
That is not a heart.
That's not an easy shot.
That ball was moving in there too.
Yeah, there was people on Twitter asking
if he had hit the Icarito Nukiboy six.
I believe. I believe. Yes, I'm getting worried that was, Icarita Nuki Nuki boy six. I believe agree. Uh
Yes, I'm getting worried that was that was certainly was a Nuki boy
That might have been a chloroform. I feel like the large quick the large six might have even been too much. Yeah
He was juiced up man
He was he was trying to put a dagger in right there T.C
I don't know
I think if you lay that up and then play a wedge to the right side of that green and two put like I think you could have
Not guaranteed that but that was going to be safe.
It felt like an unnecessary risk, but at the end of the day, I
appreciated the hell out of it after like rose laid up yesterday from on 13.
If it's a two-shot lead, send it.
Like, I'm with you there, but that big of a lead, like the only thing that could
happen that could go wrong was hit in the ball in the water.
I almost think the opposite.
I think he, I don't know. I mean, I know it's just all judgment, but I think he made the right play.
I'm with Neil, where I have this shot, worst case, it goes way long into the water.
And then, like I said, it's a difficult chip, but you're still looking at six worst case
seven, where we've seen guys, guys Justin Thomas on 13 like that's
no gimme wedge shot on on 15.
I wouldn't say worst cases six or seven.
No, because you could do there's dudes that chipped into that pond from long of that green
this week. And I know it was in his firm as it was the first couple days, but I get
speed share chipped into the pond. He had a very smart shot there. Yeah, to where that pin was, you know, you're not being as aggressive on that on that chip. Yeah,
where he left that first chip though was actually the more I think about it. Like what a savvy play.
Really good. Right. It just that was so comfy. Like, okay, now we're just gonna put it from the
fringe and we're fine. We are so fine. And then yeah, the bogey on 16, I mean, he missed the
ball, missed the funnel. Rainy, how after today, how do you not love the pen on 16?
I just think it's stupid.
I like, how's it stupid?
Is it too easy?
It's, it's just not very fun for me.
I don't understand what the big attraction is.
It's, you, you're still, I mean, it's, you saw it today.
You saw it exactly, you can make birdie if you stuff one and get the bull right but if you miss it
You make bogey or double or triple if you're zander
So much that can happen there Randy. I would offer you compromise
I'd ride harder that the Thursday pin is dumber than the Sunday pin
Thursday pins up front Thursday pins is funnily up front
Whereas at least Sunday is like you're up by the bunker and it's closer to the water and so many hardputs to that.
So it's a lot. Yeah, you there's a lot more three puts.
It feels like one that I agree Thursday sucks,
but I think Sunday was actually pretty fun.
The one that had had where he's back to the hole.
That was sweet.
Yeah.
The putt I was referring to on 16 was the come,
you know, the fun footer back the other way.
It was a little probably a little longer than that.
But like that's, that's not an easy putt either.
But I mean, I don't know, I love 16.
I, the Sunday pen on 16 is a birdie or bogey pen.
Like there's not, you know, there's a decent amount of powers, but like things can happen
there.
I don't know.
It's more fun than like thinking and being I'd say, damn right.
It is.
Talking 17 sucks.
I like the pen on sticking it in.
Have you ever noticed that every,
every master's Sunday, leaders come off 16
and what do they do?
They go to commercial on 17.
17 is just a giant, it's like a,
it's like a piss break for the, for the broadcast.
Like it's, the whole, it's not,
there's nothing happens there.
It sucks.
I mean, the green, you're right.
They finally showed a camera angle
from on the right side of the green before Zander putted.
Did I finally got a sense of how sloped it was?
And then they moved away from that camera.
I was trying to say, I wish they would have stuck with that camera.
Yeah, and it's like, it's a combination of like,
maybe the whole isn't as bad as I'm saying it is,
but I don't get anything from watching it on TV.
That's my problem with it.
That's fair.
That's the most important thing. And the eyes and how it's really gone, you know, Ike's gone, it on TV. That's my problem with it. That's fair. That's the most important thing.
And the eyes and how it's really gone.
Ike's gone.
It's unbelievable.
There's no identity to it.
It's just boring for me.
Speak made,
speak made birdie on 17.
And I thought you had to hit two really excellent shots
to do it.
Yeah, that's great.
But I don't have a sense of how excellent those shots are.
It's my friend.
Sure.
I don't have it.
You know what?
I'm not understanding how difficult it is.
Whereas when I see someone make birdie on 10 or on 11, I feel a lot more like wow. What you know,
what a golf hole they just played. 11 stings. Number 11's in my doghouse. I was just going to say
that. That whole so boring. They've ruined it. The fact that they're five too. I know five sick.
Five is just I think the only proper part five on the golf course But I think that eleven there was a lot of people talking about this on Twitter
I know I'm certainly not the only one but the the what really shined on eleven this week was that runway
Right of the fairway that showed so obviously where
Where the whole used to extend to yeah, where where how the green was designed to be played where you're supposed to play it up
That right that right side to get the proper angle.
I was resaw, I think Adam Scott had a shot over there.
I think Leech had a shot over there.
A deck he did Saturday.
Yeah, and when you see it come in over there,
you're like, whoa, what a,
this is actually a great angle over here.
It's like, yeah, well, I think that's kind of how
it's supposed to be supposed to be played.
There's no doubt in my mind that the Ridler fixes that.
Well, don't you get, at least though on 11
when they show that approach, like it makes me nervous. It's like, it looks like a heart shot on TV. Well, don't you get at least though on 11 when they show that approach.
Like it makes me nervous.
It's like it looks like a heart shot on TV.
Oh, super right.
That's why it's like not like good hard.
I agree with you on that.
Like it's not they the whole could be better.
But the point I'm trying to make about 17 is that I just don't like get any sense of how hard it is.
Yeah.
Right.
Well, on 11, it's so hard that everybody plays away from it so much
that it's actually like takes the excitement out. Yeah, there's no variance at all.
Well, that's what I mean. Nobody hits it in the water anymore. You know, like the, yeah,
they need to penalize, I don't know if it's bunkering or, you know, shortening the whole
changing the angles, but that that that pond might as well not be there anymore.
How about rositing that back bunker DJ?
And I'm like, man, I didn't even know bunker was there.
I don't think I've ever seen anybody hit it in that.
I'm like, yeah, of course, I've seen that bunker, but I've never seen anyone in it.
That was the first time I've ever seen anyone hit out of that back right bunker on 11 contrary
to all of this.
I feel like number three shined really brightly today.
So it turns like 17 into something like that. You know,
give me some excitement down the stretch, at least be able to collect 17. We're moving
up. This is a fat wall on Stinking and Dean. We get it. All right. The millennial one.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm done. Can we get to Zander now? Is it time? Yeah, skip over. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Let's skip over.
Three is cool. Go ahead.
And I have one more Hadecki question. DJ,
do you want to talk about number three first?
No, I just think it's really interesting.
Like, you know, there's a lot of different ways to play it, right?
And we were talking about what, what made the most sense?
You saw guys taking, especially in those last, what, five, six, seven groups.
You saw guys taking all kinds of different routes.
Salatoris banging it up there, what, 20 yards, 30 yards, short of the green and making a five,
leash, laying back and making a five.
I mean, they're like, Zander seemingly doing it, exactly how you're supposed to.
And then not executing the second shot and watching it kind of roll back to his feet.
It was just a, that was a horrible second shot though.
But I think that shows like, you know, just what kind of a knife said it is.
It was 300 really cool.
350 yards that whole played to a 4.24 score.
Hell yeah.
And it wasn't like, it wasn't like they lost the green
or the pymus absurd.
It's just in a really challenging spot.
And it's all about contouring there.
Like there's nothing.
I mean, that angles.
Yeah, that thing, that's not coming from like bunker, you know,
a bunker that's, you know, everyone was driving in or anything
like that. It's just angle elevation change and mounting and slope. That's all it is.
Yeah. Seeing as a layback to 125 yards, yeah, 350 yard hole with no bunkers up by the green.
Like that's, that speaks volumes, right? One more thing on the, on the Japanese golfers,
guys, I'm telling you, prepare yourselves to Kumi Kenaya. He's coming. He's coming. Okay. He's
coming. He was like world amateur number one for almost a year or over a year. Where is he right now?
He's he's coming. He's he's en route. Yeah. Like he's on his way. What you know, is he? He's
not what towards the on top. No, it's in the top 100 in the world. Okay. He's with a lot of those
boats that are kind of stuck off the off the harbor right now. There's a lot of a lot of trans-specific.
We need some tracking in the edition. Yeah, exactly.
Rainier soon though. What was your question, Randy?
A couple people on Twitter were asking, does Bob Turner get invited to the
champion's dinner next year? Does he get let inside? And if so, does he get a
plate of food?
No, it'll be like the wedding band.
They'll, they'll, you know, you can have it, but just not in the room.
Not in the room.
Yeah, but they'll pay for the dinner, but it has to be outside.
It's always awkward when you look over the wedding band has their own table.
Yeah, you know, they pretend like they're one of the guests.
Because that's golf sacred, that's maybe golf's most sacred space.
Like, and then there's just champions only.
And like, what if a deck he can't talk to anybody? God, that's what I want to talk to anybody. God, that's sacred space. Like, through champions only. And like, what if Adecki can't talk to anybody?
God, that's true.
What if he doesn't want to talk to anybody?
God, that's maybe right.
I might be, he doesn't want the interpreter to come
because he doesn't, he's like, no, I'd rather just not.
Just, I'd rather just eat my food in peace
and hope you guys enjoy my menu.
What, thank you.
What if he can't put even, he wouldn't be able to say that.
Nobody would be able to, you know, well, he can practice. I mean, he won't even be able to say that. Nobody will be able to know, you know.
Well, he could practice.
I mean, he's got to hear.
He's true.
What's your guys closest route in as interpreter right now?
Like what language could you like?
Oh God.
Pig Latin.
I don't know, man.
I got no.
I could body up with Yoast Loudon,
even though he speaks perfect English.
And be like, yeah, all right.
Yeah, I'm going to be your interpreter in here.
I always speak like zero Dutch.
I feel like Yoast Loudon's just passed his prime at this point.
I got, you know, you got to maybe Anvand Am.
You got to, you know, see if you can get into it.
I think you'd have a better chance of a women's master's developing
in Anvand Am winning.
And you getting in that way.
No, I'm, I'm trying to go to the chairman's dinner on the,
what is it, the Wednesday night or the Tuesday night of, of the A and W a.
Oh, sure.
It's Ridley and then, you know, 75 amateur golfers.
It's like the weirdest picture I see every year.
I thought it was just to be Ridley and Jennifer Cupcho
and what's her name who won this year?
Sorry.
Because that was the only championship.
Yeah, because we're like two of them.
I'm just tiny. Codgettiny, I'm sorry. Only that was the only champion. Yeah, the only champion. Yeah, because we're like two of them. Couch, Tony.
Couch, Tony, I'm sorry.
Only other thing, I'm that note.
Only other thing to bring up for Hideki that I had was,
it is cool to see these initiatives by Augusta
kind of like coming full circle a little bit
with the Asia Pacific Am that they started in 2009.
Hideki was a two time winner of that.
I mean, that's pretty wild to see him, you know,
go to an event that Augusta started on the other side of the world,
win it, come do Augusta Biloam, turn into an awesome career
and cap it off by being a master's champion is like, you know, again,
we talked a lot about the the women's game last week and what they're doing
with the Anwa. I mean, it's's a pretty you can draw a pretty natural line there from from on what champions to,
you know, women's major champions as well. I'm just out of ladies master champion yet, but,
you know, I just think that's that's pretty cool and Augusta, you know, hasn't always made the
right decision throughout the history of the world, which is well documented, but they've done
also some pretty cool stuff that now is kind of starting to come full circle.
I just wanted to shout out to Daniel Young in the comments who said, uh, do it interpret
for Bubba.
It would be your best chance to get into the championship instead.
I'd also like to draw the line there where the day that we see a drive chip and put champion
mm-hmm, win the age of Pacific or the Latin America am and then go on to win the masters,
that's when I'm out.
I was going to say it's probably probably gonna be sooner than you think.
You got these 22 to 23 year old kids in the drive chips.
The game is too big.
I would say it's growing at a ferocious pace.
The real dream would be to have a 15, 16 year old win
the drive putt chip and then the next week win the Masters.
So all you two, we did this.
We bring it up every year. Not enough is made out of guantan long,
making the cut as a fucking 14 year old.
While there was a 14, 15 year old division
of the drive chip and put on and in that division this year,
there was a 17 year old plan.
Of course, due to some circumstances
outside of his control.
But come on, man, he's 17.
That's how we are the parents. Yeah, maybe he should have relinquished his control. But come on man, he's 17, that's a very hard the parents.
Yeah, maybe he should have relinked which is spot.
You know what?
Thank you.
Thank you.
But T.C. I know that's your block.
So I don't want to.
I was worried.
There was a shadow of a doubt in my head today.
I was a little bit worried when they put him on.
They said, hey, you guys are out of position.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, shit.
Are we going to do this?
All right.
I've got to part of that history of theirs
is only penalizing the Asian players.
So, you know, who knows what they had up their sleeve, but...
And to their like two, nobody's credit just to be fair.
Hadecki is not fast.
No.
Well, you know.
It is interesting, DJ, to your point on kind of these pasts that they've carved out
to getting to the masters in that.
There's a, I forget what year the broadcast is.
Maybe it's 86 or one of the old ones I've watched before.
One of the announcers is like, and Gary Player comes into the booth, shocking.
He won some airtime.
Comes into the booth to do some analysis after playing.
And one of the announcers asked him, like, Gary, what do you think of all these foreigners
up here on the front of the leaderboard?
And Gary's like, I mean, I'm one of them.
And you know, too, I think golf is an international game.
And it was just very much like, it's not always been the case at Augusta, like the embrace
of, you know, foreigners playing this, you know, game that was also not in Ben and in America.
Which I have to think if you're, you know, being somewhat cynical, I also think that
Augusta probably realizes that, you know that the Asian golf market is the biggest growth opportunity
in the world, and I think that's probably much more
why they started this tournament
and trying to get more Asian players into the masters.
So for anybody who, you know, you're so negative, Dej.
No, I'm just saying.
For anybody who was kind of floating like,
oh my God, what a nightmare scenario for Augusta,
having a non-English speaker win you know, win the green jackets.
Like, I think this is probably actually a V good, a V good outcome for them.
Going back to the champion's dinner, I think, I think Kat might be disappointed because
he's had a bunch of like American style sushi.
Like, I think Kat thinks a California roll is really, really good.
They're going to show up with...
He's got a searchin and all sorts of crazy, crazy shit that Cat's never had on an Omikaze menu.
He's going, wait, this isn't sushi.
This isn't my spicy tuna roll.
Come on.
Cat's a heavy soy sauce dunker.
Big on the wasabi.
He's got a lot of ginger and wasabi.
He's watering down the flavors.
I want to talk Xander.
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All right, so you, I wanna book to dig into the Xander round.
I want you guys to answer the question I had earlier.
Was Hadecki crowned today?
No.
Yes.
I'm gonna say no.
I came over the four-shot lead and he shot one over.
That was exactly coming in.
I know, but God, when he shows up and miss it, Bogie's 18 and finishes it, what, 10 under?
Like, if he needed to par 18, I think he would have.
I think it's exactly what we were saying yesterday is Augusta lures you into thinking more
people are in contention than they actually are, right?
And it's, I don't know, a couple stats that I really like,
this is now, I think 24 champions in a row
that have been within four shots of the lead
going into the final round.
So if you go by that, I mean, it's like,
there were really only the four guys that were gone by that
today, so I didn't have to listen to you pump up,
stinky Jordan all day.
No, I fall for it every year as well.
Every single year, I've just, oh my gosh,
there he is, man, he's to seven.
If he just does this and this, you know it,
but I don't know, I'm with you, Sally, that I think if,
you know, it probably looked a lot closer than it ever was,
right? It was close on 16 T.
Yes.
Yeah, Neil, I'll say this,. macro, it was not a crowning.
There was a micro crown.
He played well enough to win the tournament.
So I'm not trying to take anything away from Hadecki, but I just, 17 and 18, I just, it's
just so frustrated.
It's like, man, we have a golf tournament here, man.
If you just take seven iron instead of eight, like that's so, you can't let that happen,
Zander. I just can't do that.
I'm afraid you listen to the podcast where bones,
you know, said, you know, whatever it is,
Sunday at Augusta, the ball goes further on 16.
That was interesting, Nuggety said in the post-run interview,
he said, talking to some veterans and everything,
they said, you know, play the win you feel,
we were playing, we felt down and off the left.
I flushed it and it didn't go.
And there's just a question about whether or not he actually flushed it.
But that's that's my question is like, and then Doddy said wall of wind.
Yeah, I was like, what?
I don't, I mean, I don't think there was a wall of wind.
There maybe there was a little ghost out there.
Maybe she's feeling.
You know, something.
I think it's my scene.
I didn't feel anything.
I don't feel any.
I know.
I'm not going to.
I'm not going to think. I'm going to say that Doddy didn't feel anything. I didn't feel anything. I'm not going to, I'm not going to tell.
I'm not going to say that Dottie didn't feel any win.
That's fine.
It was, it was a good 10, 11 yard short of where it needed to be.
Yeah, it wasn't close.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, I think talking about Xander, you got to go back to like three, four, five was where
you really lost the plot.
And then, I mean, Shady birdied seven eight twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen like he
he tried his hardest to get back in it and did a great job six birdies and nine holes
but man the the the bogey on three was bad the one on four four is really tough and then the one
on five was just just sloppy shit that was five was a a bad hole. I'm a little gutted because I feel like I've,
I like Xander.
I find myself rooting for him.
You know, it's almost like a fool me once, shame on you.
You know, fool me twice, you're not gonna fool me again.
It's like, I, I, I was like, dude, you're just letting me down.
It's like he's not, I know he's not closing it,
but then his interview afterwards,
I just like his awareness.
I thought he gave a really classy interview,
he explained exactly what he was thinking.
I thought that was a good window into like,
you know, that sucks, man.
Like I feel bad for him.
Like I want him to break through.
That's just how I feel as a fan.
So, and I'm curious, does he bring that out in you guys at all?
I think we're talking about it downstairs a little bit.
And from a very casual golf fans perspective, that out in you guys at all. I think we're talking about it downstairs a little bit.
From a very casual golf fans perspective, I almost feel like Xander kind of needed this
day to become more popular if that makes sense because I feel like there's a lot of people
that probably don't feel a whole hell of a lot towards him.
I think people recognize his name because it's a unique name and And beyond that, I don't know what the casual golf fan
can really like tell you about Zander.
You know what I mean?
He hasn't had any crazy memorable moments.
He hasn't had any like, you know,
I know he's been close a lot and to super hardcore golf fans,
he probably has a lot of heartbreak,
but like casual golf fans are gonna really,
really remember this moment.
And I think probably almost like root for more now.
You know what I mean? I think he struggled to have much of it in identity
before. And I think I'm with you, Neil. Like I root for him. And I like watching him.
And I wish, you know, I wish we had more from him. But, you know, I almost in a weird way
I feel like this is going to be good for kind of the macro story of Xander.
I think Xander, that's, I like that.
That's good take.
Listen, winning would have also been good.
Yeah, that would have helped too.
But, you know, I think what you just said goes,
goes to show you too, like he,
he's maybe collected some scar tissue in our eyes.
Yeah, because of coming up short and PGA tour events,
but it goes to show you how little those events matter
in the consciousness of the average fan. He get, The harder the golf gets, the better's Andrew gets.
Yeah. And so I think that's the frustrating part, you know, probably for us, it's like, hey,
we see this progression and we see this. But at the end of the day in, we've seen them win,
what, you know, four or five times. This is going to be obvious. Yeah, this is going to be obvious the answer here, but who's, who's major resume would you like?
15 majors played two runner-ups, two thirds, and six top-fives, okay, in 15 majors, or
18 majors played one third place finished four top-fives.
Obviously, no wins, no seconds. Who do you think the other guy is? Brooks.
John Rom.
Brooks is one more. Four. No, I thought in a top five.
I thought in a top five.
I'm sorry.
Hand up. Really?
Hand up.
I thought you were going to trick question.
You always do that.
But it's like it's like going back though,
like just with, it's all right. I missed it. What was the other player? John Ra. Okay.
What's like the, the, uh, the, uh, torch championship, you know, people can point to the
torch championship and say, yeah, he's one, he, he's won this big event. He won cap
Alua, um, WGC, not get off, Randy, but it's not get off. It's like, yo, this is where
I'm so happy we have live comments coming.
I wish we could edit that part out.
You guys are right, Boot.
Why?
Why mail bottle?
Yeah, unbelievable.
God.
But it's like, yo, check it out.
Nobody gives a shit about those events.
Yeah.
Like, it's a mechanism for distributing a bunch of money.
He's a rich man's fee now.
Yeah.
I think it's too early to call that.
That's unfair, right? That's unfair. You rich man's. No, no. There's it's too early to call him that. That's unfair, right?
That's unfair.
You're right.
No, there's a lot of people come to the chat about Ricky.
He's the new fowler.
Which people, yeah.
Three or four years younger than Ricky, though, right?
Yeah, and I think that he hasn't been overexposed
in the same way.
Is he approaching that potentially?
I see a little bit of, you know,
maybe not with the putting scar tissue,
but I see a little bit of Matsu Yamma's career trajectory with Sandor, where, you know, won a lot like one, a lot when he kind of came onto the scene
and then stalled out for and granted, Sandor hasn't stalled out, but hasn't won in, you know,
a couple of years now. Yeah. I mean, Ricky's got 43 major championship appearances in eight top
fives. Sandor's got 15 major appearances in six top fives.
So I mean, I know strong.
I know this.
Yeah, really good major record.
I know you can say the same thing about Fino too, but there's something to be said also
for.
And I know we've mentioned this on the show before too, but when you go talk to players
and caddies and anybody in the game like Zander is the guy that everybody talks about,
right?
I mean, like he's all the right shit.
Yeah, like, everybody is the guy that everybody talks about, right? I mean, like he does all the right shit. Yeah, like,
just ass off.
Everybody is so impressed by him.
And like, that's got to, it's got to click it some port.
I hope it does.
I'm rooting for him.
And if you go watch, man, if you go watch a shot on,
on 16 again, it bounces in a little different way.
And it's, it's very close.
Well, I'll also say, I want to give him some credit to imagine,
like he, you could tell he was gutted when he hit it in the water to give him some credit to imagine like he you could
tell he was gutted when he hit it in the water on 16, but he kept it like he had the
ability like he's not freaking out like Billy Ho. You know what I'm saying? Or like
Ram, like there's no like fake club break. He just bites down just kind of grits his teeth
and just I got a ton of respect for that because I can't do that. You know what I'm saying?
Like I super super well adjusted. Yeah, just like, just, you got to swallow this one man
and just keep grinding and then he came back
and he had two solid holes and he wasn't enough.
He had a great put on 17.
It's just like, damn it man, one shot.
So, which is almost what I'm getting at, right?
Where it's like, I think he, when he does break through now,
like I think this just makes it even better.
Yeah, I like that.
I think you're right,
teach. I just think at the end of the days, he's top,
he's going to be top five in the world after this. Like we expect
to hell of a lot of them, right? And there's not,
there's not a major is to go around. But if in, I think by the time he turns
30, if he doesn't want to major by time, he turns 30. All right,
then we're ready to, you know, like, and I'm saying the same thing
about Tommy Fleetwood.
I'm kind of, that's the attack.
I'm telling Tommy.
Tommy might be older.
To your point though, Tron, like,
it shouldn't really be glossed over this.
The swing on 16 was, was one swing.
The golf through, you know,
Tommy's 30, so I might be dead.
Three, Tommy's out. Sorry.
The golf through three, four and five
needs to be acknowledged as stinky.
And just like that was where, that was where it got away.
And like needlessly careless, right?
Where and then because I think that's the freshman part too, as you see the highs, like
going back even to the drive on 13, for instance, was unbelievable.
I mean, he laid that was it probably the most one of the most impressive shots of the day.
And then the approach into 13 was really good too. And he missed the eagle putt there,
which that wasn't a great effort, but four birdies in a row. It's like, God, man, we're vibing.
And the deck he's feeling the pressure and he just let like that's what he would like.
Randy said it was a microcrowning or like, like all the pressure watching him at the
Torch Championship. When he was coming down the stretch hitting big shot after big shot.
Like I know we should have the Torch Championship, but he's shown a propensity.
He may be on a bad run of it right now, but he's shown a propensity in the past for being
able to hit the big shot in a big moment. My issue with him is it's never clean, right? It's never
like just 14 holes of dominance. Like it's a lot of up and down within it overall really,
really good. Obviously, but like he never has that, oh man, it's a lot of up and down within an overall really, really good, obviously,
but like, he never has that, oh man,
he's totally got it under control right now
and is not gonna make a mistake.
Which honestly, I know everybody will,
I feel like people are gonna feel like Hadecki
play a lot worse today than he did, right?
Like, I almost felt like that about Hadecki
for the vast, vast majority of today's round.
I mean, obviously, this wing on 15 was was not good
But beyond that it was like I mean where else did he make big mistakes?
Randy I mean as a big female guy. Are you getting are you getting phenol vibes out of out of zander?
No, I think the Ricky one feels a little bit more accurate
But he you know part of the Ricky blowback was just how exposed he was and
Part of the Ricky blowback was just how exposed he was and you know his profile. His results not matching his profile.
I don't get that from Xander.
He's a guy.
I don't have anything against.
I want to root for him, but I'm kind of like, I don't know what there is to root for.
And I think that's DJ.
I found myself being the exact person that you were describing about how like, I don't
know if this is going to make me root for Xander more or less, but it's nice to just see
him.
At least there's something.
In a spot here.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Where, you know, he doesn't make me feel much coming into this week.
So it's just a little weird from, you know, I think he's ranked what, like six in the world
right now. It just seems something's off there.
He hasn't won like a, what?
Over two years.
Yeah, so January, yeah, January 2019.
You guys ready to talk about Taurus?
Very.
Yes.
What a fucking week, man.
How about a Billy Z.
That was awesome.
Billy Zane. On your friend, Billy Zane. He's a cool guy.
Unreal ball striking. I don't I hate not having strokes game stats. I got a couple
for a deck. You that's about it. But just an just the absolute clinic of a ball
striking week. He took picked apart the parrhoves. A rookie does not go
through and weave through all the landmines of Augusta National like that.
The ones that do are named Jordan's teeth and I think it was Coltnost compared his good buddy.
His, yeah, his first round, you know, his first Augusta, his first masters to Speets and like they both got second in their first masters.
Like Fuzzy's LR1, that was the last guy to win in his opening masters, but I don't know.
When you, we've only got like 40 years of history there, it's not as, it's different now that
there's like 80 years of history of doing this and that dudes do not come out and just
like play a gust of like that.
It was jarring.
It was so awesome.
No doubles, but that was impressive.
No doubles in your rookie.
Dejan and I were talking, for how good he strikes a ball.
And I love watching his swing with how high he gets the club. It's just he's got like a he's a complete ball striking. So Vaughn, but his putting stroke
freaks me out a little bit. It's a little jolt. Yeah. You know, and he's got the armlock thing going
on. It seems really doesn't make me feel like comfortable on the green. It seems really pronounced
on uphillers. Yeah. Whatever reason. At least this week, it seemed like he left a lot of kind of
benign uphillers, just, and I guess nothing's been
nine around there.
But it's a little concern.
I had concern, he might not be the right word,
because he does win and he's played it some way
in the top 50 in the world.
But it's weird when you see someone that young already having the long putter
and the arm lock and the claw.
Yeah, that's kind of like fuck, but all the band-aids
are already, he's got the gauze,
but he's got the ace wrap, he's got it all on there.
And the next step is amputation.
So especially when they outlaw the arm lock,
you know, we're just coming, right?
Can we be clear that this is coming from the flyer lie?
I have not audited his version of Stroke's Game stats. He's got Zalator's leading in Stroke's Game Pudding for the week. Really? He gained 6.3 strokes
on the Greens. So this is a bit, I assume that's, I don't know. I don't feel like he made a putt all
lead some long putt. He made one like 18. He made that one for par. But I felt like he had like
yesterday specifically. So I'm talking about yesterday. I felt like he had like yesterday specifically so I'm talking about yesterday I felt like he had a ton of really comfy two-puts
Right, he was role. He was rolling a lot of
15 20 footers up to two three inches where it's like oh my god
This guy's just stress-free parts everywhere again. I do not know
I have no reason to doubt these stats, but I do not know the source of these stats
But he was by far the best on the greens this week. Yeah, that's I went through with me away I went through a few of those I'm not greens as we had. That's I went through a few of the same guy.
I went through a few yesterday and some of some of them I had an issue with, like some
of like leashes, stats kind of going through and like, you know what?
That doesn't make sense.
But they didn't match your gymnastics scores that you were giving them.
Exactly.
Well, yeah, no, I was actually knocking him in certain spots more than he was, but you
know, never mind.
So someone had a question in the comments there.
How many three puts did he had and the answers for?
And so that's that's kind of where I come back to, you know, yeah, the stroke.
I don't know how that works.
Like the strokes game might say one thing, but you know, you listen to me.
I'm like, yeah, he also missed a couple like real shorties that that and lost by one
So like what do you want to say and I subscribe to the theory to like he's such a good ball striker
He gives himself many more opportunities at those like
seemingly makeable putt
And so I think we see him not making all of those putts because nobody can make all of them, but I just
I don't know he didn't strike me as like his putting motion
didn't look uncomfortable.
His whole setup does.
And just devil's advocate for that, I'd say,
the putting, hopefully, like I don't think
it can get any worse probably.
If he's already arm locked with a claw,
like I feel like he's got to be near rock bottom
with the putting.
If they outlawed the arm lock though, which they should.
He could go the way Tim Clark.
Randy, have you considered the rock that the masters to never be seen from again?
No, I can't find a putter that long.
I want to try it.
I just can't find one.
I can't find a lab.
I'm serious.
Yeah.
Going back, I've been thinking about it, but I'm not going to lie to you.
Yeah. Yeah.
Going back, I've been thinking about it, but I'm not going to lie to you.
Is Alatorus, he's, I think he's, he's got youth as far as his, his, his PGA tour, like
professional career goes, but he doesn't have a PGA tour career.
He's not a number yet.
True.
Yeah.
He's, like, he needs to talk about that.
He turns 25 this year.
It's not like he's like this spring chicken that's 19 and like, I mean, 20, at 25,
speed that one, speed one of it's 25 speed that one.
Speed one.
Mass 21. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
He was finishing runner up when he was 20 or TC. Yeah.
He, someone in the chat said, he's kind of a, you know, JT.
He's got a lot of JT vibes like with the swing.
It's kind of how he gets the hands high.
Just body languages, a hell of a.
That's why I would, that's it.
That's fair. He does seem to to roll with it pretty well. That high fade that high like late cut on the
driver is so good. Yeah. Can we talk about the membership stuff? Because there may be,
you know, much like the Xander thing, there may be some people listening to this who are
either coming to, you know, maybe don't listen to a ton of golf podcasts, maybe are just dipping
their toe in for the masters. Why, you saw you on explain this?
Why is he not a PJ tour member?
So he's not earned PJ tour status.
He did not go to, you know, as a graduated from corn fairy tour, which is like the main path
into getting status as of right now.
You can get because of the supersese.
You can get the special temporary membership to the PGA tour by in your sponsor's exemption
starts that you get or Monday qualifying spots, whatever starts you get on the tour, if you
earn as many points as the 125th ranked player earned in the prior year, you have obtained
special temporary membership, meaning you can take unlimited sponsor exemptions for the
year.
So he has unlimited sponsor exemptions and deterrentments.
So he has his card for next year, next season.
A different category.
You have to earn enough points.
It's a weird, different thing,
but it's almost the same thing.
You gotta get enough points to,
or you gotta finish top 125,
I think in the current imagining FedEx Cup
that you're not really even in,
and you get your card for the next year.
The point being,
you got it.
The only reason this is of interest
because of course every tournament
is gonna wanna give him a sponsor exemption at this point.
But the only reason it's interesting is, like, he can't play in the playoffs.
And he can't, you know, which is crazy.
I saw Andy Johnson read a story that if he would have won today, so he's won shot away from
winning.
If he would have won, he would have gotten PJ Torment Membership, which would have put
him, he would have gotten retroactive FedEx Cup points for all of his starts he's already
made, which would have put him forth in the FedEx Cup points for all of his starts he's already made, which would have put him forth in the FedEx Cup ranking.
Which means think about how high he would already be in the rankings and he's not in because of...
Because the PGA tour is a closed system and they want to bite their hand,
just bite their face or whatever.
Which I get why that works. It's just like a weird, they can't just wave a magic wand and say like,
now you're in.
So I'm going to say.... Someone someone say bite your hand.
Bite your hand to spite your face.
Yeah, I don't know.
No, bite your nose.
Listen, what's in that the saying?
I don't know if you're nose.
I was never so successful by the parts.
I was thinking of.
Deage, they someone said that Zaltoris needs, he needs a big win.
He needs a real big.
He does.
He's a real big win. He's a real real big win. Going into
this week, he was leading he had 713 FedEx Cup points leading the non-members list. Victor Perez
was next with 234 and he would have, I think he probably got 400 more something this week for
finishing second. So it's like he's you combine those don't count for anything. It's just that's
what if he wins, they would all count retroactively.
Yeah.
Those are how he is.
But if he does, it's better than what he's there.
If he doesn't get a real big win, then they disappear
into the e-fist.
No, he can't play in the FedEx cup.
The only reason, like, hell fuck, hell yeah.
That's so stupid.
And I think, spiting your, your, the thing that you talk
about all year and sheepening up, young talent,
on up with this guy, he's, he's, he's, yeah, he's young talent. Oh, no, but this guy he's he's he's in the top five
Technically, but like he's not playing whichever again
Like I get why it happens because you can't just say like you can't just decree like okay, you know what now you're it
Now you're it because then there's gonna you know
They got to make that decision. I think you are in the top you're in though. Like if you get a hundred top on 25,
that's the points you're in.
That's, that's not that difficult.
Listen, I'm cool with that.
That's cool.
That's cool too.
But it is like, it's the only reason I bring it up
is because the FedEx cup money is so fucking big now
that if he can't get into the playoffs,
I mean, imagine if he was supposed to be number 15
or 20 or something going into the playoffs
and have a really, really good chance at $15 million
Instead, he can't play. I mean, shit think about how much money Scottie chef or made last year. He should sue them
For like Casey Martin style like sue the tour and loss of it lost income. Yes
Restraint restraint of trade. He needs to maybe needs to garnish some of these got Roger Sloan and some of these guys as wages
It should be paying taxes to his out towards
Andrew Sheldon asked over under 1.5 green jackets for his out to us. I
Love this I love the questions. I love this game. I'm gonna take the ender so early at this
I love where you're at Andrew, but I'm gonna take the under I don't see how he done one four
Speed has what four five now at this point.
I think so.
God it blows me away every time I think it's like
it's like speed is only one one.
It just sped up.
Speed might have 1.5.
I know.
I know.
I know.
I know.
You had a couple, you know, it's crazy. Did you see the stat I tweeted?
That it's six in 2014, 2015, 2016, 2018, 2021.
A total of six golfers have beaten speed at a gust.
In the total of those five years, does he include him?
Are you including himself?
Total of six golfers.
And that is, uh, he's got one green jacket out of it.
He's got as many as Danny Willis got in that time period.
That's God, that's crazy.
I'm trying to wrap my head around there.
I don't know where to start.
I don't know where to start.
Let's go with guys.
Let's celebrate it.
He's back.
He's back.
Listen, you're exactly right, Randy.
It's just, I can't possibly watch as much golf
as I watch this week and think about where
speed possibly could have saved three shots.
You know, minus 2.7 on the greens this week according to the flyer line. That was a joke. He should have won by fucking six this week and think about where speed possibly could have saved three shots. You know, minus 2.7 on the greens this week, according to the flyer.
I was a joke. He should have won by fucking six this week.
First and foremost, he needs to apologize to Griller for number nine on Thursday.
It was disgusting.
We try to hit the punch out.
Yeah, it was almost, yeah, reckless punch shot of all time.
He hit it off.
Todd your strong.
Like I just I, I can't I I can't that's real.
I totally I can't get over that.
I mean, can you get over this that he was first in strokes game t to green this week?
Yeah.
By a mile.
So good.
He had it so good and just complete like lost brain activity on a couple of holes.
How about the conversation on 15?
Oh my God.
Yeah, I flipped over to the 15 on 15. Oh my God, it's flipped over to the 15, 16 feed.
When he's just, he's trying to lay up and it's like,
he's like trying to talk Greller into shooting this gap
with like a 52 degree wedge and Greller just finally
was like, what are you like?
Why don't we just punch out with the wedge over here?
What are you talking about? It's going to be like 10 yards farther right, but it sounded like the old.
I really like it sounded like me and TC would be like had way too much to drink.
And it's, you know, we're partners in an all shot or something.
I promise you,
Tron, which blade of grass you looking at? Are you going to start it on that one?
Are you going to finish it on that one?
I promise you their conversation is more interesting.
I haven't been a part of it.
And I've said observer to both of them, only to outside. I bet they weren't having as much fun
as you. Oh, no, no, no. If we don't take it five yards closer, then I then I can't hit the
chipie cut in. What is the architect asking for us here, though? Maybe that I mean, that's what
speaks in girl or what? What question this Clifford Roberts want me to answer here
It was so stressful watching them all week. Oh, he should I mean legit
I don't say that lightly. You should have like had you played great and I keep played, you know
It was the serving champion of course, but God's beef serving runner should have won by three or four, right?
I mean it was just crazy to the people say stop tweeting about him? Absolutely fucking not.
Not going to happen.
Like, this is, this is, like, what is worth following golf for?
Yeah, that's fair.
It's not going anywhere.
Neil, going back, I don't, I don't want to know, like Clifford Roberts.
He's probably, I know, he was probably asking a lot of questions.
We don't want to.
I like between Bobby Jones and Alistair McKenzie.
You went with Clifford Roberts.
It's the first time in the pop.
For my head.
For Fosia.
Guys, thanks for circling back around on that.
Because I was thinking I was like,
Fosia, that's not what I wasn't to.
That wasn't the architect.
Hey, that's wild, man.
Thank you, TC.
Why did Greller shave his beard?
I don't know.
Why did anything shit happen?
The whole week was confusing.
People were saying he's got a job interview.
That was, we're not doing that.
Come on, we're not laughing about those jokes.
I think, I think, you know, what?
He shaved it because why not?
He's an alpha.
He's Miguel now.
He's Miguel.
It's getting hot.
While I'm thinking of this, would you like to issue an apology for saying that can't lay
broke up with this girlfriend because we got some DMs that identify that he did not.
I'm sorry, you know, apparently there was a born, you don't need to give more detail
to it.
I'm a born supremacist.
There's a born marathon.
I'm a man.
I'm just a mom.
I really can't lay had a lot more to do this weekend than, you know, play golf.
So yeah, it wasn't a broken heart.
I mean, the blue go with search and for answers. And that wasn't the answer.
Search and for answers and all the wrongs, like,
so you know what, I hope Cantlay is, you know,
freaking, you know, loving good open and chug grace right now.
Randy, did you have anything else to add on speed?
No, he's back though.
He might win every major the rest of the way this year.
He's back and he stinks, which is which is
Which is the sweet spot, which is exactly the sweet spot. Royal St. George's man. That's that's up great. It was
Concerning how well he drove it. I mean, it was it was just like I don't know. I don't know if I've ever seen him hit it that good
In Augusta. That's what was so frustrating. Oh god damn man. I know. How does the shot in 18 come up short?
I don't know what happened there.
What are we doing?
Get the big back stop to take it off of?
Did girl or give him a bad number?
Don't even take that.
Stop it.
Stop it.
It was frustrating.
I mean, we knew he was back,
but I'm even more committed now to him to be him be back after that performance
TC let's talk about leash. Let's
Here we go the floor is yours. What would you like to say TC good bad otherwise give me your honest reaction to the day
You know, I know I talked to Maddie a little bit earlier in the week. They
Least finally listened to him as far as the like they didn't play it all in
Monday, late night on Tuesday, night on Wednesday. And so I think he was super, he was bouncing around
Thursday, Friday, he was super fresh. It just seemed like one of those days where like from the very
start, he was in the fairway on one and then from the very start, he missed that, which should have
been a really good thing for his eye, that approach shot into one.
And, you know, Maddie said it was just a different win. They're just a, just kind of an awkward win
for them. You know, I imagine like I wouldn't have wanted to play with team Rose.
So I imagine, you know, that, you know, Rose is shaking his hips all over the place.
Yeah, exactly. He's got the room on, all that stuff.
But he came back and birdied too.
And I thought in, and then like drove it down
into the Delta counter on two and then ended up
making birdie on two.
And then from there, the lines are short though
in airports these days.
Exactly.
Well, in doing a lot of social distance.
You got the app too.
Yeah, that's accurate.
In Delta, you don't have to go to the counter.
Like you saw that with speed.
Speed just skipped the whole counter. Yeah, looked like he was going in there. I know go to the counter. Like you saw that with speed. Speed just skipped the whole counter.
Yeah, looked like he was going in there.
I know you're good.
Yeah, pull this three back.
Why do you guys call it the Delta counter?
Is it so?
Something we made up.
Yeah, we made it up.
It's an old thing.
Like you hit it down the left of two.
Like, that's a Delta cat.
Check out.
You're leaving for the weekend.
Back your head on home.
Change your ticket.
Yeah, that's good.
And then you lost a little.
Shout out to Dan Jenkins, I believe.
Dan Jenkins.
A lot of strokes off the tee. He was today today
It's a like he drove it super well. Yes, which is again. That's where we want to be
That's leashes game. No, but like lead he drove it. He drove it super well
He had two bad driving days and two good driving days. I felt like he drove it like asked today
Um, and then I think on three was where I really started to worry where he missed that like he laid up off the tee
Had a comfy number and I'm sure like 125 ish and then that was a tough shot
But goes a little bit long makes Bohee from from you know just off right there and then
Played really solid golf like number five. He had he did freaking laser in the number five
I've had it had probably one of the closer birdie puts anybody had all day ship on four
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the chip on four was gross
And then yeah, and then like seven was like all right, dude. We need a we need a bird here
We need a bird here and then ends up
coming up short and
Trying to hit a mega flop and then makes bogey from there when it's like dude like we got to be hunting for a bird there
I think if you for a bird there.
I think if he makes bird there, things flip a little bit,
but many's in the trees on eight after that.
I don't know, it just felt like he started off
on his back foot and never really recovered.
Yeah, I mean, incredible week overall.
Take away.
It's just awesome, awesome golf from the bottom of the line.
I'm super, super proud of him and and and Maddie for that matter
Just you know, yeah fans. It's 72 67 70 73
finished four shots back and you know T5 with ROM so incredible week. I am
Just sitting pretty in our draft Kings thing. That was big.
What did you have?
120 on the plus 900 plus 900.
Plus 900.
Mm.
I'll take my boosted shadow of the draft Kings.
I'll take my boosted top Australian bet.
Top, top bloke.
Top love.
Hey, that's really cool, guys.
Really cool.
Neil, God, I hated seeing Mike.
We were Mr. Cut, man.
I did too.
I hated that for all my friends up north.
Can we talk about talking to all you Canadians?
Take that for us.
Can we talk about the top English bloke bet today?
Top grinding on the top English bloke bet was so money.
We were so money.
Mike, Matt don't call me Mike Wallace is, I just need to be top three Englishmen and
there were, it was a log jam.
It was a bloke,
but you know, the bloke points. You got to watch the bloke. I was reporting them from everywhere.
They're all tied at plus one. It was Fleetwood, Hatton, uh, Mike Wallace, uh, Fitzpatrick.
Rose already up there. Rose is already at the top, but there's somebody else was, uh, was tied
with them. Uh, no, Polter. Oh, yeah. And Casey. And then Casey left the chat Paris English was in English was it kind of an honorary bloke
but then so they Kate no sorry Casey posted number and then hadn't went to one to minus one and then Wallace was hanging out at
Plus one and the other guys had fallen back Fleetwood
Pistot and it was like oh dude. He's on 15 yet a 10 footer for birdie on 15
We're so money, baby. We got a funnel pin next hole.
This is on 15, starts biting his shirt.
Goes to 16, three jacks it, and then comes in
and shoots fucking two over.
And finishes fourth, like T-4 for the top English bloke.
Paul Casey, Bernie, 13.
It was 14, 15, and six.
It was the top.
It was maybe personal.
Of all the pouches I've had this year
This this one that's gonna stay the fact that I hitched my wagon to frigging
Nuts job mat wall was a tough tough scene, so thank you. Thank you for
Let me share that much like the Xander miss on 16
I think it was it was picking the Mike Weerbet. I mean that you, but you bogey two or three early, you know, that I know.
Yeah, you bogey 16.
That's what it's gonna.
But listen, the Weervat was fun.
I was like, you know what?
Like I want to I like riding for we're weird.
He seems like a, you know, a easy got a root for sure.
Speaking of, you know, mental cases, I believe it was the phrase you used there.
We have an official apology tweeted from Billy Horshaw.
Really?
I am and have always been a fiery competitor.
Unfortunately, the fire inside me sometimes runs hot
when I'm not getting the most out of my game.
It leads me to some instances where my conduct is not what I wish to show,
especially as a role model to the younger generation.
I apologize to Augusta National, the members of the club,
and to the patrons for any conduct that may have crossed the line.
I'm always trying to improve and do better as a golfer, husband, father, or as a human being. Thank you at the Masters for a memorable week.
I got it. I hate that. Respectfully, like, just shut up. I don't want you to apologize. Exactly.
No, it was great. Stop talking for like six months. Yeah know, however you want on the course, just stop talking off the course.
And if somebody pressured him to apologize,
we'll screw them.
I key had nothing to apologize for.
I'm totally with you.
I did issue the thoughts.
You run, he runs hot, man.
What do you want?
It's entertaining.
I give me more of it.
Brandy, I feel that way too, Randy.
Today, I reissued the thought to all.
I did see that TZ thing.
That's important.
He did the outburst today with the multiple taking the same club
and slamming in the bag three times in a row was that's not a great
way.
No, when he was when he was looking at the master flag, just, you know,
have to what he like that was yesterday yesterday.
Yeah, yeah.
Who are you talking to? Until I hear whether or not, you know, I have to what he like that was yesterday yesterday. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who are you talking to until I hear whether or not, you know, I should accept his apology from Billy Payne that I'm going to reserve judgment.
Billy Payne should should hold a presser.
Exactly.
Say, hey, our hope we can get him back in our gig.
Our idol Billy, Billy Ho did not live up to the standard that we expect.
Yeah.
I mean, nobody was asking for that apology. That's, you know, I don't think they were, right?
I'm sure he just maybe just like don't,
I mean, he was a loser, just don't do that.
Or he got feature group coverage two days in a row.
Exactly what I was gonna say.
They knew what they were signing up for.
Yeah, you know, they don't, he doesn't need
to apologize to anybody.
He's a apologize run hot.
He's got his competitors.
I'm sorry.
He's apologizing because his, his,
but his official position at the tour
precludes him from acting like this
That's true
So can we talk a little rom
Yeah, what's there to like he shot 66 today as a great round. Yeah, I just don't know
Like you put a really sensible round of golf for the first time in ages. It seemed like well, she got a wonder perspective.
Just set in.
Has to do with the perspective.
Just set in.
Yeah.
72 72 72 boom bogey free 66.
That's, you know, that's the perspective that you can get from, you know, you know, you
can't lose it.
You can't win it on Thursday.
You can lose it.
You absolutely can.
Uh, I want to.
I actually appreciate
Rahm's post around comments. He essentially owned up to, you know, he's had some decent finishes
on paper today being one of them, but he hasn't truly competed or been there down the stretch
in a major. And I thought, you know what? That's what I've, that's what I see myself. And so I want
to give him props for recognizing that stating it publicly
He moved up a couple notches in my book today. I'd love to hear you come on board the the wrong bandwagon Randy
I know he's you've been not anti-ROM, but you know, yeah
Yeah, he hasn't interested you very much. I've been the last couple years. Yeah, no
It's just he's a big garty relief pitcher
He doesn't aesthetically don't do anything for me. Who'd you compare him to? Todd Coffee.
Todd Coffee, just pound in the zone with 94 mile power,
straight fastballs. He's got, come through the chat that's I missed that
I'm saying you need a layoff burn. Yeah, why you take your
Yeah, watch yourself man. You can't be doing that these days
There's all there you can't be doing that all people these days. I'm asking the question. Oh, I'm asking is the question legitimately
Verne didn't sound like he was in the best of health today on the broadcast careful TC
Neal's gonna come after you and I don't know I think that's that might be a bit of a stretch
I didn't think he sounded any different than he sounded last November now some Jim John Haynes was saying it was Jim
Dan's the call to very immediate corrections. I have I will I will apologize. I asked that's why I asked the question
Do you I think you need to apologize then you said I said dance always nails the family to him. I asked that's why I asked the question. I think you need to apologize then. You said
I said dance always nails the family to him. You said you played a perfect game. Perfect game. I was
wrong then. I will apologize for that then. You know what? I know we bash CBS a lot. I know this
is not going to be what people want here. I was very impressed by dance this week. I just I missed his.
I thought he had a lot of gravitas this week. Randy serious. What is that mean? What is that mean? What is that mean?
What is that question?
I thought his questions were great.
I thought he asked very considering the translator,
barrier, considering the,
the most, Randy fuck you, that's a hard job.
That's hard to ask people questions that draw a motion,
especially when they don't speak your fucking language.
Oh, it's, yeah.
I thought he did a great job. It's real hard to draw a motion out of somebody. He't speak your fucking language. Oh, it's yeah, I thought he did a great job.
It's real hard to draw a motion
as somebody who just had the biggest moment
of their life.
Give me a break.
I couldn't get over Nance.
Nice tour.
That's Randy's had a point.
I couldn't get over Nance giving.
Oh, I'm sorry.
He's giving Roger a little bit more.
This is a small trap to our interview is should we?
this is some rady's quite is not getting paid
$12 million a year
hey hey my money it's big rady how are you?
whoo
that's that's electric the people love that
sorry that's a love of belt rady
that's a love of belt
PC PC you make a good point though
that's fine I want to fit in good L there
he gave Roger good L a hand job in the middle of a telecast.
Yeah, that's good.
It's good to happen.
Yeah, that's good.
Listen, there's some other contract,
there's some stuff going on behind the scenes that you don't know about.
That's gonna happen.
That's gonna happen.
Didn't Nance?
He did vacate the premises that seemed like for an extended period of time.
It was laying out.
That's what you guys want from him.
I think he was on the phone with promo.
It's possible.
Hey guys, God, you scared me.
I'm not happy.
It's scary.
Get it out of here.
Sure, we could do some coverage.
Get out of here.
You loser.
I'm a toss.
I could kick off hamster, damn.
I got one thing.
What the fuck was that?
And Fowl-Dowed second nine piece.
He walked up from nine green. And the leaders are on like a whole number six like what are we doing guys?
That was brutal. They did another feature on seven and then went straight to
Whole six from there whole like it just didn't nothing
It almost felt like that Fowdo piece felt like Fowdo's Like bug in the produce like yo, I really want to do this piece
I really really like I think it'd be awesome. They're just like I mean, we got it
It's just get out of the way we got it. It's like a school project
You know, it's like we got let's just give for throw Fowdo a bone
We'll we'll sneak it on the front nine and won't even be a big deal. They're pot committed like I we made it
We got to show it. We have to show it. It's like man
That was that didn't add anything. I felt a lot like, ESPN does those,
I'm not just saying it on this week of all weeks,
but ESPN does a great job with their tremendous job,
with their segments.
They legitimately do.
Like the right Thompson ones,
I feel like always add value,
especially at the Open Jamie chip.
And it felt like CBS was kind of trying to do a counterfeit.
Yeah, version of those and they just weren't good.
The pricing one they did this week was awesome with Tim Tucker, he espanded it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just about talking about, you know, how he does math and their whole relationship and everything
if they have it online somewhere, I'll try to link to it.
It was really, really good.
So the club show one, I thought was decent as well.
That was great.
Yeah, I thought there was a great perspective.
Going back to CBS.
I thought Big Tone was actually great in that one.
He was. I brought a toss in that one.
He's just I can't wait to tell you about big tone.
You want to go back to CBS?
That's part two of the whole podcast.
Let's just get this out because this is like poison.
I need to just get out.
Right.
Okay.
It felt like for the second day in a row, they got behind early.
They got behind in the count early with coffee's thrown heat coffee's thrown heat. They're not. They're not. They're just looking to protect.
Like they first 10 minutes they go, they do the whole Butler cab and deal and he sit,
standing there with, with, you know, Fowl to a nance. And then they lost the plot with
Xander on three. I mean, that was inexcusable on four or four. Yeah. And then, and then they ended up,
like they, they were missing shots of guys in the top five top six.
They were five, six, seven minutes behind on certain shots.
There was just no, there was zero flow on the front nine.
On the flip side, I thought some of the camera angles they used were like they covered
15 magnificently this week.
Yeah.
I thought they had some great great cameras on like on seven on
Five like some stuff to really show off the different
You know slopes around the course that normally get washed out on TV
And then really at the end of the day like I just like somebody
Turned Fowdo's mic off when he's not talking just breathing and breathing stuff
But in their defense, he never stops talking.
So it's kind of tough to shut it off.
But I think overall positive, I don't know.
Overall pretty good, I'd say point one,
being able to go online and watch four broadcasts
at once, including the broadcast is incredible.
Counterpoint, it really highlights how far behind
they fall in the broadcast,
because you just see things way, way, way in advance.
It's so unnecessarily so, or even when like there were certain spots where guys would be hitting
a shot ostensibly live on the broadcast and the score on the score box has something
completely different where it's basically a spoiler for that.
And like there was a there was an hour stretch on the on the front Nile was like, yo, just like like
This is limit this is limited commercial interruption and you're still not able to show us yeah live golf like that
That in that case the commercials aren't the problem guys. It's you. Yeah
Yeah, I mean the online good raining. I got one well I
I mean, the online Go ahead, Rainey. I got one, well, in CBS's defense, I guess,
I thought the Front Nine, just the action lacked a lot of flow.
You know, besides Matt Siamond's, Outtourist,
they're like, it was like drawing name out of the hat.
No one, no one was really making a charge
or it didn't seem that exciting.
I got one big pet peeve that I've noticed
with Masters coverage on those hyper zooms that they do to the ball,
when they settle by the hole,
you lose all perspective on how close it actually is.
I hate that.
Great call.
I agree.
I'm right there with you.
Thank you guys.
Randy, big, that's hard hitting.
Just don't zoom in that much.
All I had to add, I want to double down
on the different camera angles.
I feel like we saw a lot of different stuff.
And it just really shows off Augusta National probably in the best.
I think we've ever seen it.
And the drone.
So that was awesome.
Some of the drone stuff.
Like I know for a we're watching with some of the wags and was like, oh my God, it's so
hilly there.
Get the people that don't watch it.
Which is nice because you don't get a sense of that from the hard camera.
There's some that I wish they would stick with longer like lean into like when they were
showing the one on 17.
That yeah, Xander's put on 17.
They had the like almost like down the line from his putt and you could see how downhill
it was and just how crazy that green was or showing rose from the drone on 15 when he
was chipping.
Yeah. Back up up I think on Saturday
that was a really cool shot and then the whatever the 15 million dollar cameras that they're using
there's super high-def wide-angle ones are so cool. I feel like the drone was a new toy for them in the fall
and they didn't really know how to use it that well I mean they did some good stuff
I think they seamlessly interacted the drones in like this year, but I think the Venice cam, whatever it's called, still
was kind of a new toy. They're kind of showing off and there's the next time around, they're
probably a little better at integrating that into the broadcast.
I think they, I mean, that shot of Hedeki, leaving the 18th green. I know it's hard to
screw that one up, but like that, that made it all. And any overuse they did of it through
the week. I felt like that was justified by how awesome match I was.
That's more breaking news here.
Mr. Nicholas has tweeted,
I want, take note of this,
I want to send my heartfelt congratulations
to Hadekki Matsuyama for his master tournament victory
and for being the first Japanese male golfer
to win a major championship.
I'm not only very happy and pleased for Hadekki,
but also the whole golfing world of Japan, not them.
I've been blessed to spend a lot of time in Japan,
and I know they love the game of golf.
They're also very proud people,
and they're even prouder today.
I competed against the great,
as Sayoa Hoki, and know how revered he was, and is.
Hideki will also now forever be a hero to his country.
I was able to watch every shot.
And Hideki played beautiful.
He kept cool and calm.
Got a bad break on 15, but was composed enough to stay in it.
I felt bad for Zidner who played wonderfully
and had every opportunity to put pressure in Hideki
but wasn't able to with a triple on 16.
No mention of Barbara.
Dying in a match.
No, I don't know where Barbara was today.
I would say emphasis, emphasis added by the narrator at their
old discussion there.
Just that fly.
I was a lovely bit of breaking news.
Thank you.
What else?
What else we got to get to?
Fino, Big Tone, we shocked the world.
We did it, baby.
Top 10.
What's, what's Team Tone Ranger?
How they feeling on the boards right now? Tony. Yeah, Tony message boards. I'm only on the team rose message boards. You know, and take a peek at the Tony message boards. No, because that's the whole bit.
Solid moderator on the the whole bit for team Rose was that there is no team Rose. Nobody's done fucking team Rose.
And they tag team Rose on all their things.
That's the bit. Tony doesn't do that.
He doesn't pretend like there's Finao Nation out there
or something like that.
You know what I mean?
I got a couple really sorry.
I'm sorry, you had to hit me on the nose with it.
Well listen, you're setting me up for failure there.
What are you talking about?
You're talking about the Finao message board.
It's the whole separate bit.
All right, listen, I was just trying to extend the bit.
Come on, man, I was just trying to work the bit
into something else.
Sure.
I had a couple really, really shitty DMs from Team Rose
people last night.
Just play the chords, Neil.
Yeah, I will do.
What'd you say?
I had some like bad drunk DMs from members of Team Rose
last night.
I got two separate ones that were like very upset and then they woke up next morning.
Sorry, I had too much drink last night.
My fight about the same guy.
I think overall on Team Rose, I think we're chuffed overall.
I think it's a big week.
I think it's a big week.
There's lots of build on.
I think we should have taken heed of his comments coming into the week that
he was sitting in his trophy room, uh, visualizing every shot at Augustine National and that
that was going to film with good vibes.
Obviously it did, uh, you know, a little disappointing to finish what, what were we?
Fifth, seven, seven, seven, seven, uh, but, you know, we're, we're going to be back
and stronger than ever.
That was an expensive, especially in Olympic games.
On 18.
I give a shout out to the DJ Pi School of Central
He made the pattern 18.
He did make the pattern 18.
All right, I guess leash made a pud to hop up into T5.
The DJ Pi School of subtlety of like,
you know, the one of the first lessons he taught us
when making videos is like, don't,
like you don't have to spell things out directly,
literally for people, like let them kind of interpret things. The roses all over
his shirt today. Yeah, that's not from the DJPi school of subtlety. Did you get it?
I need you get away with where they're going for there. I'm going to take it
take it easy. Yeah, take it easy on my my my my, my hitters over at Pinobos.
I'm sorry. So P, P finished top piece, not in there.
Top 10. Good round from P today. Good weekend from P 70 69.
Which is, you know, I feel like he kind of finished where we,
where we thought, you know, he's playing well coming in.
He's going to be, he's one of those guys like, you know,
probably not to the spieth level, but I mean, he's going to be a threat here for a long time.
The threat to do a lot of things.
This is going to be something we're going to have to live with everybody.
Everybody's a threat for that.
Exactly.
But read read it Augusta is going to be, you know, people want to talk about how
Salatores is going to have 10 or 11 masters.
Like reads going to read is going to be a threat for a really long time.
Shout to Corey Connors, top 10.
I know he had a rough day today, but you know,
ball struck his way into top 10 of the Masters.
That's very impressive.
How about that?
How many people get invited back next year?
Is it top 12?
Top 12.
And speaking of which big shot Bob McIntyre finished
in a tie for 12.
And he, he, there was some tweets going around
about a, a rain bunches celebration
you had with his caddy after finding
the baby for next year.
Massive group at T 12.
It is a big group.
One, two, three, four, five, six guys at, at 12.
And so all those guys will be back.
Yeah.
And they've already got big issues with field size as it is.
So they were low this year.
They only had 88 guys or something like that.
Um, yeah, Web Simpson's do sink.
Kevin Na, C. Wilkin, Bob McIntyre and Brian Harmon
all back for next year. They're making horseshoes apologize. Maybe they won't ask him back
next year. That'd be free of the spot. Cam Smith, T 10, Wayne players getting an exemption
actually. Is there an example of when players going to get into the drive chip, but
is there some example of Augusta not like quietly not inviting someone that should have qualified because like because of not,
you know, because of etiquette. I heard of them like threatening people. I'm talking
racially like back in the day. Yeah, there's some. I'm not talking that. I'm talking like like
legitimately like if they didn't like the way, you know, like Billy Ho conducted himself or
something, you know, like somebody did something, somebody cheated, but they were qualified
for the next year.
Like, I'm just wondering if there's a historical precedent
for that.
Because it seems like if there was a tournament
where that would happen, it would be at Augusta.
Like, hey, you're taking a year off, bud.
I think they, I think they kind of can hold it
over people's heads.
I mean, it's definitely within their right to do so
as a total invetational.
Yeah, I don't think Onhell got an invite this year.
That's probably true.
Yeah, well, not that he could have thought she had been saying Gary McCord.
Is it good example?
Yeah, that is a good call.
Yeah.
I would not be shocked to see you, Skullfax.
You know, not back on property next year.
Interesting.
After the cell phone debacle this year.
I don't know about what about my friends.
I heard about George Gankus too.
Yeah, Gankus.
That's a legend, but yeah, there was a couple of swing instructors
that sounded like escorted off property or asked to leave this year.
Gosh, what else we got?
You want to talk about this?
Another shout to Stu Sink for finishing T12 with the masters
at age 47. I mean, that's freaking incredible.
Yeah.
Is it?
Is it?
Yeah, DJ was dogging him for being a big guy that babies a ball around.
Oh, no, I can't claim response.
That's Ron and that's the TZ's words.
Yeah, I recognize those words.
I've been on that block for 20 years.
I was going to say literally 15 years I've heard that take.
It's one of my favorite.
I would try to say that Cory Connors was that.
I was saying that's not I don't buy that.
I was saying he has whiffs of that.
No, I think.
I think it kind of babies it around.
No, but he's got the he's not like the LPGA tempo,
which you should love.
I mean, like that's it's like metronomic tempo.
I said I think he, you know, I don't think he babies it, though.
I don't think Cory Conner's babies are golf ball.
I have to look into it.
Before we wrap up, if you have any other topics,
people want us to get to get us in the chat.
I was gonna say, hey, golfer.
Yeah, I was gonna say, we did pods throughout the week,
but if people missed some of those,
I mean, some of the guys who missed the cut, anybody,
anybody who weren't far down anybody who,
we've probably started cut missers, I think. I just the only one that bears repeating.
I mean, Dustin was really bad.
That's tough, but do we need to mention Rory again?
Or is that just bad sport?
Yeah, I don't think we've covered.
Well, Dustin went and played Champions retreat today.
Just hung out.
Love that.
You know, do you think Justin's, do you think he's back in Jupiter yet as of this recording?
Oh, I'd definitely say so. I'm not thinking about it. Yeah, yeah. Speaking of miscuts, do you think they're going to he's back in Jupiter yet as as of this recording? Oh, I'd definitely say so nothing
Yeah, yeah speaking of miscuts. Do you think they're gonna retire any of the old guys?
Marka Mio didn't seem to think that there was that you know tap on the shoulder
He's like I've heard some rumors of it, but didn't seem to think that was a real thing. Who's next Larry my sandy liel
I don't think those guys are husband are ready to like I wouldn't I don't think they're they're distracting from the quality of play
There's only one guy that didn't shoot around in the 80s and it was you're you're raining us open champ Tyler's Trophachi
Didn't shoot around in the 70s or sorry in the 70s didn't break 70 I should say I'd like to see some of the old guys like Larry
Mies and those guys you can play in the tournament you get to play two days to matter what and you get to play the uptees
and those guys, you can play in the tournament, you get to play two days to matter what
and you get to play the uptees.
Failure.
You get to go play.
Well, this was, you're not in the tournament really,
but you get to go play.
You're a mascot.
Don't listen.
That was so much to ask for those back teas.
All he's just trying to undo his ages,
don't listen to those.
This was my commissioner for the day, idea I had.
You should play the masters forever,
but you get to lock in, like it's like locking
and interest rates, you get to lock in whatever it's what what tees you won from.
Yes.
Yeah.
I like that.
Then you should have to use that same equipment too.
Can we talk more about that's totally fine.
Sure.
The second cut's got to just go.
It serves no purpose.
Well, I think it does come one of those firm greens.
It seemed like it made it harder to hold a lot of those greens.
I think it made a big difference between being in the fairway and being especially on the 13th and 15th. Like try to hit like a
draw. I mean just, but it just slows the course down even more. Like it just, it doesn't
need to play any longer than it does. It doesn't, when the courses and the greens are that
firm and the fairways are soft and then balls stop and the rough, I just don't think that's
really serving much of purpose. I'd be open on nine. How they they got rid of that second cut
and Speed's ball ends up rolling
until it got into the pine straw on nine.
Like I'd rather see the course play like that
than you know, balls just kind of stopping it.
I don't know, I just don't see what it really does.
I'd be open to add to speeding up the fairways.
Yes, right?
But I don't like on a whole like 10,
I think the second cuts serves a purpose of like,
man, you're gonna be stuck way up on this hill,
30 yards back, like you're not gonna get the benefit of,
if you hit the fairway, you're gonna get like crazy run out.
That's great.
Even 10 wasn't running out that much this week.
I know, that's what I'm saying.
The fairways were too shaggy for sure,
but the second cut, I don't feel like is,
I'm a little indifferent, I guess.
I think the riddlers put the,
put the owners on the governing bodies to do what they need to
do with equipment and then anything that's why the fairways were slower.
Oh, I think that's just what they need to do to defend against like having some integrity
in the golf course as far as sure, you know, length and everything.
But yeah, I do think that there's a little bit of you're not you're not putting as much
spin on the ball.
A little agree, but it just it seems
to like catch balls more than you know keep them going further into trouble more than it does like
really punish you. One question I have is which like a few few spots I guess they shaved down and
took that cut away around the greens. What were the specific places for that? I don't know I don't
remember where I don't remember encroaching too much on the greens.
It felt like if I still feel like there's plenty of, you know,
I guess six is it? Maybe a little bit?
I have to look that up. I don't know where they really
shaved that down much. They don't give you a list of all the changes.
15, they should make that.
They have to make that green all the way down to the back lake.
I love that, TC. I love that.
I pin it back lake. I love that TC. I love that.
I've been it, pin it back there. One of the days. What cosine?
The fairways just seemed shaggy to begin with. They just seem like
they're not CTR Steve saying, did I just call the fairways shaggy?
There goes my master's badge. You know what? I did. I'll say it
again. I thought the fairways were shaggy.
Apparently you can't, you can't, you can't say that about like us.
But they were. They were the fairways were longer than they, Apparently you can't say that about Augusta, but they were.
The fairways were longer than they,
they, you know, there's no run out.
There for sure.
I agree with you.
And then they mowed back towards the teas to prevent.
It's just all these things.
They're like, if the ball didn't go that far,
we wouldn't have to do some of this stuff,
but we don't have to rehash that.
God, I'm, I'm kind of shaken by the idea of that big greed
all the way down to the backwater.
I'm 50s for lock.
If you imagine if they had just like almost like the pine trees are in the middle of the
green, like get the putt around them.
What if they just made a little finger out there that was pinnable one of the days?
Would be very interesting to see who went for it.
It's just so you had to go for it.
You know, you're down free shots back. That's the interesting T.C.
I'm here for that. It's just such a weird deal when T.C. got a beautiful mind when it comes
to color setup. Three was a great, three was a great example today. Like somebody goes just long or
just off the green or shed a decky on, on 15. Yeah like just over and it's so slow putting out
that stuff. And then you've got and then and then all of a sudden it hits the
green and it hits the nost boosters on the green. They've got to they got
to get somewhere in the middle. I agree. I'm gonna ask you guys three questions
here on our way out. One first one. What's your strongest memory of the week?
What's what's gonna be your lasting image of the 2021 masters?
Yeah, what's the shot of the tournament? What's the,
I think you're asking or you ask? No, just like what lasting memories? What's your
last, I mean, mine's Wayne player for sure, but it's really? No, I'm just gonna say, I
mean, just like, Hadecki's just, like, just total prominence. He was the most like
of extremely deserving winner. Wasn't the most exciting golf at the most part got a little exciting there near the end, but just supreme dominant
golf performance. I think yeah, I think realistically I think it's going to be Hedeki walking off
the 18th green. I thought that was awesome. I got I kind of got Zander in on 16T just the
disappointment on his face. They zoomed in on a replay and it was just like, God, that's so brutal, man.
Yeah, that sucked.
I'll go.
I'll probably think of, sorry, Randy, go ahead.
Oh, sorry.
No, I was going to say, just before talking one image,
I retweeted the great image of Hideki's caddy,
bowing back down the 18th fairway.
I would say, yeah, shot or, like, the longer I think about it the more I think about
Hadecki's back nine on Saturday.
He's shot into 15, man.
Holy shit.
Yeah, and that's the one that really is seared into my mic.
So Micah said Billy host slipping.
That's a good thing.
That's gonna last as well.
That can be that too.
That's good.
All right.
Who changed what you think of them after this week?
Whose legacy has changed?
Who's, you know, who has shit, what shifts have you made?
I feel like non-Mozzi Yama Division, right?
I think so, yeah.
I say Zalatoris.
I mean, I've been kind of, you guys have been talking about them a bunch, you know, on
our weekly previews.
I've been like, yeah, you know, whatever.
And now you have my attention.
He's up to 27th in the world.
Yeah, I think he's deservedly so.
That was a bit of a yado for him this year.
I would say, man, I don't like this
because it's gonna involve eating a lot of my own words,
but I think it's Bryson and Gustaf,
at least for a while.
Hell yeah, I think it's the least it, DJ, let me, I'm trying to be very humble here and explain why I'm changing my opinion,
but I appreciate your guys' humility. Of course.
Yeah, it sucked ass this week, man, and it sucked ass in November, and he just looked so off,
and that didn't feel like, oh, he just doesn't have it this week.
That just felt like mass confusion.
And it's possible that like everything else,
like he's gonna, you know, he'll snap too
and he'll figure it out
because I'm sure he's gonna obsess over it.
But man, it sucked, sucked this week.
And it just didn't look like, you know,
the guy that we thought was gonna bomb it over all the corners
and just have a little flip wedges,
it doesn't look good.
Do you see?
Oh man, go to somebody else first.
So many different directions.
I think I'm so overwhelmed.
I'm gonna say a great question.
I'm gonna say Rory.
Yeah, I was thinking Rory.
Yeah, similar to the Bryson comments or what?
Doesn't seem like it's gonna happen for them there. It's probably maybe an overreaction
to maybe his worst master's performance he's had,
but gosh, picturing him winning,
I can see a lot more top five, but winning,
do you see how hard that was for a decade,
how good he played and he won by one?
Do I think we're always gonna win one?
I'm really starting to convince myself
that I don't think he's gonna win one. I don't know, but Roy has that other gear where I had I still think he has it. I still think he has it.
Seven years, man. And now other people have that gear too. That's fair. I mean, you're
searching. I get what you're saying. That's what I'm saying though, that it's a place you can win at.
If there's anywhere you can win when you're older, I feel like a gust is that place, right? Where he could just, what, how old is worried now?
30, in a year?
Yeah, in a year.
I think he's 31, 32 maybe.
Who could pause that?
I'm not ready to declare his chances over to go.
Yeah, I agree.
But also I do think this was kind of shocking.
It was damning.
He was damning.
There was the manner in which he knows 31, 31.
Solid, I've, I, he's the same age as me. I really feel So I've very, I just see me just me. I really feel I don't think you're gonna win it.
I go see you. I don't.
Especially after this year.
You get the clock.
Even on Rory. It's definitely taking on me.
Not after the shaggy fairway comments. That's for damn sure.
No, that's for damn sure.
Yeah, I don't know if I can co-sign it, so I only but I very much I feel where you're coming from.
I'm in the boat currently. I just don't know if I'm signing for a lifetime taking it to the boat.
No, I'm not bailing on Rory.
TZ.
Leash.
I think he's gonna win one of these.
So you don't think it's over for Rory,
but Leash is older and he's a golfer.
Rory's a guy that hits golf shots
or tries to hit golf shots.
Leisha's a golfer.
You know what I think might be tougher leash in some ways
is like I almost, what's the right way to say this?
I almost feel like his exemption is gonna run out
before his ability to win.
It's gonna run out.
I was thinking about that last night a little bit.
You know what I mean?
Like I feel like he's gonna, and no fault of his own.
It's just the way it goes.
But like he's gonna fall out of the top 50 eventually
or he's gonna not win a tournament or like,
I agree, I think he's just a ball striker
and he can contend there for a long time,
but it was-
He's got to figure out how to get punches ticket.
And that's the thing I think I was thinking about last night,
like thinking about guys who,
obviously, about Max, for instance,
of like, hey, this has to be a super motivating thing to, you know, like he stuck around yesterday on Saturday and watch, you know, watch the and play around and that's got to be a super motivating thing.
Like, you know, I got to, I got to stay at this high level. I got to get back here. This is too good. This is too good to miss every year. I never want to be on the couch sitting at home for this. And I think for leash going through it, it's like he's he's played.
He missed 2015, but he's played 16 17 18 19 20 21.
And you know, I don't see like it seems like he's obviously
a shoeing for next year and probably for the year after that.
He's got two more yeah, two more shots here.
And I don't see his game deteriorating at all.
I also do wanna just point out as many of the commenters
have that the question was, what changed the most
that you're riding?
The guy you picked to win this week,
you also picked to win again.
No, it just changed the fact that like I was thinking
that I was thinking that this was-
You brought this instance of that.
I was thinking that this was his last good chance, right?
That like this was his last good chance.
And I don't feel that way.
I think that I think that he's got more left in him.
And I think that we will see more of him at Augusta
in the coming years.
Did you give us yours, Randy?
No, I mean, I agree with Rory.
Just for the second, I kind of hinted at it earlier,
but I think, you know, we can all
say that Jordan Speed is officially back. And I, you know, at least from November where
he was a tie for 46, I think in 2019, he had a top, what was he tied for 21st, but he
was just kind of band-aiding it together. The biggest thing for me is like, dude, he's had five top five since the start of February.
He's competed at the Masters.
He, I'm so excited for like him to regain
that like spot at the top of the golf world.
Which brings me to my final question.
Steve's Master 22 asked,
how does Kia was set up for Jordan
and how many will he win by? Steve's master. Shout out to the Steve's master.
Yeah, Steve's master. Thank you for that question. Appreciate that.
Because I went from thinking like, I don't know if Steve's ever going to win a PGA,
and now I'm like, oh, dude, like, he wish it worked good for him.
It's the driving, right? Like, if he's, I mean, if he's driving like this, it's a totally
different conversation. Yes, that was the whole issue, as he was kind of, he's given up yards and driving it kind
of all over the map.
And now he doesn't seem to be doing that.
So that is continuing. That's the career slam, huh?
Then it's a very interesting, interesting conversation. But, you know, I don't know if he'll
be my pick necessarily at Keele, but it's, I don't know, I'm looking forward more to
the open than I am. Yeah. The other two majors for Jordan.
I don't think he was suits him. And I don't think. I'm looking forward more to the open than I am. Yeah. The other two majors for Jordan. I don't think he was suits him.
And I don't think Tori suits me. But Tori definitely does not.
I think he or it could could work.
I like the greens are a lot different.
Walking Neiman, column work,
uh, like just, you know, I don't know.
Rom. Yeah. Rom feels like a great pick for Kiwa.
I don't know why. I just, you know,
speech just doesn't feel like he's because he throws heat. That's why.
We'll see. I think I'm I think I'm taked out. What a week. Good stuff. Yeah. That was a,
you know what? There was people's dog in this leaderboard. No, that was fun. I had a great week.
I really, really enjoyed it. It was great for the masters to be back in April. It's great for,
you know, things kind of felt a little more normal.
I felt like then this one, the one in November.
So it was thrilling.
I'm glad we had good.
It was a pleasure watching it with all of you.
Oh, it was.
It was a lot of fun.
And you ran.
And the live stream stuff has been great.
Thanks everyone for watching the live shows.
And go ahead and listen on the pot if you want to
to help us out with the numbers there too.
That helps a lot.
If anyone has curious what the podcast looks like, there you go.
It looks really sexy.
Just one more shout out to the Steve's master.
Yeah, that's appreciate that last question.
Randy, we missed you in the kill house this week, but thanks a ton for coming on all the
shows this week.
There's a lot of fun.
Of course, guys, thanks for having me.
We'll be back next week.
One more shout out.
Jose Maria, all the trouble.
Maybe cut.
Maybe cut hasn Maybe cut.
Maybe cut hasn't made a cut since what?
Like 2014 or 2015?
In any event.
Worldwide.
She's incredible.
And I had some great quotes that you can look up at your leisure.
But he was, yeah, he was interesting.
All right.
Good night.
Thanks, everyone.
Cheers.
Cheers.
Be the right club today. Yes. be the right club, I'm going to be the right club today.
That is better than most.
How about him?
That is better than most.
Better than most.
Expect anything different.