No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 426: Valspar Recap

Episode Date: May 3, 2021

We chat about Sam Burns' win at Valspar, who his comp is, Innisbrook, Keegan, Cam Tringale, what's going on with D.J., Max, the LPGA in Singapore, overreaction to the PIP, 1991 Ryder Cup debrief, and a lot more.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most. of the week for you, because I know the answer. I'm gonna go with the Marcus Armageddon Callaway videos that were you trying to steer me? Exactly, I'm steering you. I loved it, absolutely loving life. Oh, great idea.

No, but I just smile on your face one right now and when you like shared your reaction to this video with me, just brought joy to me. Absolutely. The bullets back. The bullets back. I was laughing my ass off sitting at the airport trying to get Neil to come over

and show him what I'm laughing about. The bullets at the airport trying to get Neil to come over and show him what I'm laughing about, the bullets running around, no shirt on. This is a European tour video that's another one of their pristine videos that they shot. One of these all day affairs, which are so freaking hard to put together and they make look effortless where he's trying to break the Guinness World Record by hitting the longest drive ever to go into a moving vehicle, which- Such an outrageous. Many people are tried to break this every single day, but Marcus Armageddon was perfect for it. There was maybe some aligned interests on the Calaway

and BMW and on our end, but gosh was that even though I knew the outcome, that was an extremely entertaining video. I did not know the outcome. And so the whole, I did after talking to you. Yeah, that's true. I don't know, spoiler, but yeah, though, there's a bit of a false start in there that's very entertaining. It just, it had everything, man. It was a true Stefan video.

This thing has everything. Head to the European tour, social media isn't fine, that I'm sure it's on Calaways. I'm sure it's everywhere at this point. You can find it very easily, but congrats on that. Sam Burns, that dude feels like he should be a PGA tour winner. And now he's officially a PGA tour winner. Good for him.

I think he's one of those guys, like you said, you've kind of watched him swag around for the last couple of years. He just carries himself like a winner. He just looks like the most confident dude on the golf course. I never met him, but everything you hear from other players seems like a great guy that stuff you hear from the Cowley people. He seems like a great guy to work with. So, yeah, happy for San Burns.

That was fun to watch this afternoon. He drives a well. It puts it really, really, really well. It just seemed like he would hit a foul ball here or there or lose a little bit of focus the last few years. I know he had a bad injury too, that he was fighting other last year or two years ago. It took him a while to kind of recover from that, but I feel, I mean, DJ, we've been all over him in our picks.

We were early. We were early. We were mavens. It's looking at his stats over the years. He's been consistently good off the tee, consistently good on the greens, but everything in between has been negative stroke scheme. But this year he's flipped it on stroke scheme approach, gaining over half a stroke approach per round. this year, still struggling around the greens, but everything else is very positive and trending towards just being a really, really, really freaking consistent player.

Which I realized I'm projecting like crazy and going off of how confident he looks and just how swaggy he looks like when he's on the golf course. But those numbers to me just illustrate like somebody who goes at every flag and misses in a bunch of really horrible spots and doesn't get it up and down. You know what I mean? Like that's when you see someone who drives at that well, who puts it that well, who just looks like they have the factor. But also the stats say they hit their irons horribly and they can't chip and put means they're probably trying to chip and put from from pretty horrible spots. I feel like I heard a story a couple of years ago from a guy in a tour and he was like, dude, I play with Sam Burns and he should have won the tournament by like four or five months. He had a couple of those spots.

Careless, like blackout things you possibly could. And then he just kind of snapped back too and just cleaned that stuff up and he's a five time winner on the tour. Which again, I don't know if this is overly projecting, but I think there's a lot of that that goes into when you're playing certain types of courses in college, you're playing certain types of courses on the Cornfairy tour. I mean, it's a weird type of golf that gets rewarded. And of course, it's gonna take,

unless you're a freak, you know, like the Jordan's Speed, Justin Thomas's, those guys, I mean, yeah, it's gonna take you a couple of years to figure it out, right? Burns is in the weird camp, you know, weird camp for me, like with Doc Redmond, the dudes that got the special temporary membership turning that into a card. Like we didn't get to know you through Corn Fairy,

yet you didn't come out and do Moorakawa and Hovelin and Wolf and Speed Things. He just is almost like a, almost like a, not a forgotten man out there, but he does, it's just a man without a home, right? You don't know where to place his career, where you don't talk about him week to week. Doesn't have a natural progression.

Right. But it's just a super talented dude that we're waiting, you know, it's weird with the Walker Cup coming up this coming week and like the one big thing that, you know, most people know about San Burns is that he was like passed over for the Walker Cup when he was like a very, very, very deserving player to be on it.

And I mean, it's very much a, you know, look at me now. I think I'm sure he's going to be like, I enjoy the Walker Cup this week, guys. I'm a freaking tour winner. I can see him having a, the arc of, it's Daniel Berger for the career. That's a nice calm. Um, just, you know, a little bit of a late bloomer, but then starts winning, starts bagging some tournaments and, and, uh, you know, I think too. It's like, it's one of those things where you've got,

once you carve out a little bit of stability, like he's had a great year up to this point. And so he probably felt like, hey, I can really send it and, you know, not have to worry about, now it's time to start tinkering. Yeah, it's time five or it's time six. It's like, I'm gonna try to win this golf tournament

and then when you get that four or five shot lead down the stretch, then you're like, all right, I'm going to win this golf tournament. I'm not thinking about the what is you're thinking about just keeping the pedal down. And it's interesting hearing, you know, a lot of guys say this, but it's interesting hearing him after the round, talk about why he hadn't done it sooner

and what needed to change. And all of it, of course, this year of the process, you know, all of it was so process related. It's not like a, you know, it's not like he came out and got punched in the face because this wasn't good enough. I couldn't hit it far enough, I couldn't put it well enough. It was just probably like game management type stuff, right? And so that's-

Soft skills. Yeah, that stuff, I would assume, feels like a lot easier to learn than trying to rebuild your game or rebuild some very important to rebuild your game or rebuild your you know some Very important attribute of your game. We'll say to it seems like he's got a really really good caddy Yeah, just some of those some of those instances He you know, it seems like those guys work well together and I'm not sure how long they've been working together But it seems like they're they're a good team. How about it? I think Travis Perkins is his name

How about him calling him off the shot on 16? That was great as they just they're both right on the same page. And I don't know if he went up a club or down a club, but just absolutely perfect shot. Try, I know we were texting Tron like that. I mean, that was, you guys always tell the story about Gary Daniels making the call. You know, that's the best drive I've ever seen.

It hits three college football. Six Florida South Carolina games. But that was whiffs of that on 16 today at it is bright. It was just like dude, that's fuck man, that's as good as you can play a golf ball right there. So hard. Yeah, perfect drive leaves the second shot, the perfect spot rolls it in with pace.

I mean, that was like a whoa. That was one of my favorite moments of the year when Neil and I went down and played in his rook. And Neil hit one of the top three best drives of ever seen him hit like 330, you know, a bright, like right in front of the green. You know, probably 80 yards out or whatever and then just throws the sawdust. Yeah, I could see what that was going.

I wanted to, to your Daniel Burger point, like his strokes gained, 2018 Daniel Burger strokes gain looks exactly like Sam Burns current strokes gain. Like current burger is obviously miles ahead of burns, but like that's a great, if he continues to progress in this way, like that, that profile is astonishingly accurate in terms of little week around the greens, but strong and everything else. And Burns has some swagger to him as well. Yeah. progress in this way, that profile is astonishingly accurate in terms of little weak around the greens, but strong and everything else. And Burns has some swagger to him as well. Yeah.

It's not burger here. Oh, burger. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, burger. Someone says, bye, but. DB. That's true. Sam Burns needs to go by shit, a little boast, though.

And a great, so the one thing, too, is to do it more tweeter this out. And I kind of forgotten about this story, but I remember Scott Harrington when he came on the pod, had said, you know said about all the people that had done amazing things for their family, Steph Curry and things, raising money, helping raise money for them to get his wife treatment and things like that. And that Sam Burns, he's like, I never even met Sam Burns. He's just like volunteered to donate $100 per birdie.

And I kind of had forgotten that story about Sam Burns and perfect to a little human interest story. And then yeah, a great week for golf tears, for just happy golf tears, you know, on the 18th green emotions and CBS is really coming, it's coming in hard with those family interviews now. I think that's gonna become a true. Family knowvers were through the room.

That's also people out of the crowd. This is his uncle. Look at that. Eddie, you know, he's a veteran. They should be sort of pulling out the uncles and see if Nancy could name him, because I think he can. I didn't know who they were following.

Like when they cut to his wife and the two friends or sisters, whatever, I didn't know who they were. So I thought they just followed the sounds. The sound porn. No, man. It's like, what's going on? So I just plugged Sam Burns into Google. The first question that comes up, people always go ask, is Sam Burns,

Arnold Palmer's grandson? Really? Yeah, that's the first thing that comes up. Well, as we could defiantly say, on this podcast here, we can put a rest of that. He's not. He's not. And then the fifth, you know,

now it's gonna backlink to that when people ask that question. The fifth one is, does Arnold Palmer's grandson play golf? Yeah, he does, his name's Ryan Palmer. So it's the Sam. Try my head question for you. So you mentioned playing in his brook a couple weeks ago. This is a golf course I feel like all of us like

on the PJ tour, all of us like watching this tournament. I'm curious if what your takeaway was from playing it, if it helped your viewing experience this week, what takeaways you had? It did, probably more so than any other course I've seen on tour. Not having seen this, and you can't really place it because it's down north of St. Petersburg, but it's inland and it's got these crazy hills. It's a lot, yeah, some weird movement. And I don't know if it's a good golf course. It was super fun to play. The parfives are

incredible. Variety in the par three is like just just a Larry Packard in the double dog like. There's some stuff that'll make you cringe a little bit like some shrunken greens and five layers of yeah, we've probably talked about that. But, but there's a really good piece of property. Number 12 is a little Mickey Mouse for me, the one that you got to lay up off the tee and then it's like the worst resort hole ever. Because everybody just gets punished on there. Water on the right. Yeah.

And the sliders, water, shots. Water again on your way to the green. But it's just, And then a part three, where you're good at it, the water as well. You can't fake it around there. The greeners. Super small.

Yeah. And they're like, it was really interesting seeing. I believe they were firm this week. I heard that a couple times on the set. I didn't watch a whole lot on Saturday. I watched, like I recorded it Friday, watched that, and then flipped it on today. I was like, oh, shit.

This course changed in the last two days. And typically this event's in March. I think it's moving back to March next year. This was kind of a one-off in May. So it's a little bit between that, which they said that, but like, why, if I'm them, why move it back? Like that's like, I think it's a decent spot on the calendar for them.

It's hard, man. There's just so many events, right? Right, but if you get in that march Honda kind of stretch or somewhere around there where it was very much, Honda was like the thing on GC's. Circleed on the calendar, like, hey, skip this one. Whereas they got DJ, they got JT, it's not an amazing feel, but if I'm them,

I'm liking this spot after, you know, a couple weeks of heritage and whatever, a Zurich that was last week, this feels like a better spot. And I like the way the golf course plays this time of year. I think it's more interesting. Definitely more interesting. Yeah. And I mean, shit, some of those holes on the front, like number six, number seven, like those guys were, I mean, that like, like, Keegan had a wedge on number six or number seven and had to land it. Yeah, like 15 yards short of the pan.

It was career short of the green and then bounced it up. It was insane. That's way more interesting than when the balls stop and things like that. You can tell they were really pushing up against the, like the, I think their limits because like those drone shots, like they didn't look great. No, it's not beautiful.

But there, it's not very monochromatic out there. There were some weird colors going on at some of the fairways. It was starting to look proper. Yeah, it could be it. Shout out to Kurt Schilley. But like it's kind of between that weird time of the year where the Bermuda's popping,

but they've overseeded all the rough. And there's just a lot of different grasses going on. Grain is really interesting in golf, and especially at the highest level, like for them chipping into grain, you hear guys say, oh, that landed into the grain, and like where do they have to land stuff to get it to run out or get it to stop?

And watching pros actually struggle with that is interesting. I know people, you know, most people are used to complaining about greens that are too grainy and stuff, but at this level and that maintenance level, it's actually extremely, extremely interesting. Yeah, that's a wrinkly. You saw that with Mr. Burns on 15, right?

Where he's chipping into the upslope and he had to fly to the top of the grain. And yeah, that was an interesting shot. Yeah, I think it's one of those toruses that's complete, like it's a great tournament course. Yeah, it's one that I enjoy watching every year. As long as Paul Casey doesn't win, I think like we're in a good shape there. It's just that I watch. I enjoy watching every year. As long as Paul Casey doesn't win, I think like we're in good shape there. It's just like it's low blow. It's kind

of a, it's kind of a ballstriker's golf course. Yes. You got to hit greens. Sam Burns just obliterated the par five this week. 15 under on par five's 300 on par four's won over on par threes, which is, it's usually a sign of somebody that's playing good golf is when you dominate the longest holes in the course and, um, basically make a four on it every time. I love that. Yeah, he birdied three out of the four today and raised his scoring average on par five for the day, which is like, I can't emphasize enough to like, like number five, the par five, uh, it's the second part five on the front.

You go up a 75 foot hill and then go back down and then the green banks right and it's this super super shallow green and then the double dog leg 14 like 11's crazy long and then 14 is is the one that's like the the vintage double dog Like and they're they're really really fun holes to play because like there's no obvious strategy You can try to blow it up there But you can get yourself in some really, really, really bad spots up on those greens. Watching a guy leading a tournament,

have 248 yards into a par five with no water and lay up was very much like, huh. There was a decision that had to be made there and he made a decision. It was the safe one and what I'd like to see him go for it, sure, but like, hey, I respect a shot on a tour course that makes you think that way. And shot up to CBS for that awesome graphic

they had on that shot. That was cool to share. Like, what does Angle look like? Why it was so blind? Why in essentially why? The boys were f-ing blind. You made out the boys in Dottie, of course. Yeah, the telecast was great today.

I thought it was a good carry to weight. I thought it was very good. I thought the first 45 minutes were excellent. And then I don't think they were helped out by the way the action on thought. The separation and the top two or three eyes First 45 minutes were excellent. And then I don't think they were helped out by the the way the action unfolded. The separation and the, you know, the, the top two or three eyes and then everybody else.

Of course commercial load still a disgrace, but that's always this. There was an asterisk on the comment, which was the commercial. Of course. Of course. Of course. Of course.

Of course. Never watch golf golf course. That's outside of their control. You know, it was, you know, everything inside of their control, I thought was great. I feel like they mid-loaded the commercials. So they also, I saw a lot of the Gary Player marvel at our treasures. A lot of that, a lot of the same Valspar commercial,

which I know probably speaks to. Like to Neils, Neils, RBC comment, and, you know, have multiple commercials to roll in. Would be great, because we're gonna see it 400 times. A little more Inverness stuff. We got a question, Luke Peacock. He's having a couple good questions. In Spirits. How many par threes, what did I say?

Inverness. Okay. Same thing. How many par three's? What did I say? Inverness. Okay. Same thing. How many par three's is super similar spots? How many par three's is too many for one course to have and why is that number five? I like five. I like a lot of par three's.

If you're gonna, if you want to go, of course, to be not a driving contest, the more set approach shots you have and the more times that mid to long irons get tested, the more part three you're going to have. Yeah, I think. Are they the most interesting part three? No, no, the ones in the back. The one's in the back. The one's in the back.

Yeah, four kind of stinks, like eights long shit. It was like 244 today, which was funny. CBS showed 230 on their original graphic the first five minutes of the telecast and then they changed it to 244 for everyone thereafter. Maybe that was the senior division went off first and then moved the teams. And then, yeah, I mean, 13s, 13s are really good hold down the stretch under the pump.

15s, 15s cool, and then 17 doesn't really do it for me. It's just a long brood up the hill. It's the snake pit. I think that one's the moccasin. Who could say? Who could say? Shout out, of course, San Bernard Sattacromesoft X and an Odyssey 7 in the bag this week.

I got to what question. He was number one in Strokes, Keegan Putting. He was number three. He missed that shoulder. I'm the last one, the kind of threw everything off. All my notes are before the AT toll was finished. Can you, TC, help me with where the Keegan, the despising of Keegan begins?

Because I think it's just inflicted me over the years and I can't, I don't know if I can really say definitively why I dislike Keegan or if I'm just very much nodding along with you. I don't either. You got swept up. Yeah, the her just took off. Yeah, and we almost got to stand up. The propaganda got me.

I think it's a two horse race for most punchable guy on tour. Keegan and Willie Ho. And I don't disagree, but I don't know why. And that's probably important part of this podcast. Part of it is pre-shot routine. Yep. His whole, just his whole persona, his whole rider cut persona, the not unpacking. Has he unpacked the bag? He wasn't on the 16 team, but when the 16 team won, I would have been nice to see if he has what I asked him about that.

That's my only critique. It's been nine years, but unpacking. He just strikes me as a child. Like he needs to be just shepherded around the golf course by his catty and- So this is where I struggle, because I'm totally with you, Sally, and that like trying to everything you're saying makes

so much sense, and I physically wanna agree with you, but I also have no proof of that. So that's what you're saying. He goes in the category of, I can't remember. Listen, I don't like him, but I'm not telling you not to like him because I can't really tell you why,

but that's just how I feel as a golf fan. Is that fair? If you had a gun to my head and you're asking for proof, it's like I can't really point to any quotes, I can't really point to anything. He really like says, like I have no reason to have anything against him. But I also hear what you're saying. Would you take Keegan or me all Casey?

Oh, that's a, I don't have a picture of all Casey. That's another one that I know why. I just, I just, how he's smirming. He's a lot of fans. He's a little smirmy. And then Keegan, like, if the USJ needs one, like, one reason to outlaw a armlock putting, like Keegan is it. How many, I mean, if you get, it's kind of like a three strikes

if you're out, if you get two methods banned, do you get like banned from golf? You should. How many is Bryson had? Bryson could be, oh, be a half. He got side saddle, he didn't, he never was in belly putter though. That's true. But he was side saddle and armlocked. But he'd be in the normal off.

He was right there with Keegan. Yeah, that's true. I was, man, I was ready to ride on this podcast for that front nine of like, man, Keegan played great. He played like really proper golf until he didn't. And then it went away very, very quickly. Starting probably with that shot on 13. That was, that was tough, man.

I got to assume, you know, that wasn't like under the gun. I'm going to go right at this pin and just mash on this club that might not be enough. I think it was just a bad, bad swing. Yeah. I would agree. And then Ian Baker finished like trying just for, you know, maybe you could have started in a little level of the flag. It's, yeah, the push is not going to cover on that line. I was especially like, you can't go with that pin and expect to stop it on that green either. You got to go left of it and probably that was a ten. Sure.

Right. I'm a large heart hole. I will shout out Ian Baker Finch who last week said that the tour average for ball speed was 177 off the tee and I called him out for it. And this week he said, tour average, 170 miles an hour, like emphatically very much is like a, either a nod to me or a flick off to me of some kind, but he got to write this week.

I know your list area, thank you. That was appreciated. I like, I just can't, if Keegan's coming down the stretch of a tournament, are you gonna root for him? No, no, of course not. I ride with you here TTC, I just, my problem is I can't

explain why. Like, do you see our role in this is very much important in that regard of, like, I'm not telling anybody to, hey, Kegan, like, it's much easier when there's someone who's like, I despise this guy because of that. For this reason. For this reason. One time he did, culture, right? Yeah. Who's, who's the last three years has looked at culture the same way? I mean, like, man, that guy, I ride for that guy. Like the fact that we get a very, very specific example, right? I mean, that guy, I ride for that guy. Like the fact that we get a very specific example, right? I mean, Keegan, Keegan going at Miguel and Hell him and us. That was mostly Pepsi, wasn't it?

Pepsi was a lunatic and Keegan were boy. No, it's totally normal to go deposit Pepsi's around the golf course. You go pick them up. I'm not the course of the world. That's true. Yeah, that's what it's taking. It comes from Pepsi's. Yes, they didn't have Pepsi in the coolers,

so he would go out like, according to urban legends, like he would go out and hide Pepsi's around the golf course so he knew exactly where they were during the round. Yeah. Holy shit. I know, that's sick. It's seen now, maybe T.C.,

if you research into these guys, maybe you'll come around. Who does Pepsi Caddy for these days? Is it Seabook him maybe? That sounds right. I think I saw that recently. It says Sun Kang, but Sun Kang is Damien Green. Yeah.

There's another guy that's on my shit list. For different reasons. Partying, like, listen, no, was I reading for King and No? But can I explain really like why that is? Other than the pre-shot routine, which is tough. Like the Jordan, like the oversized Jordans and the way that it's aesthetically not pleasing. The whole, the, in the stance and everything. Does he have flatter clubs than normal because of how his stance is or does he, you know, get

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One, did you know Von Taylor finished T6 at this golf tournament? Absolutely not. T6. Finish T6 and he's still not inside the top. He tied Max. He tied Max, finished T6. Did you image $241,000?

That was $241,000. Von Taylor. Did they show him once? I straight up would not have been able to tell you whether he was in the field made the cut. Volunteer sweet. I like want to be that as it may. Didn't didn't try to mar it also to you. You see Troy merit fish T8.

You see something called a bronze and bergune T13. Unbelievable anonymity in this event. Crazy. JT, like blew the field away with ball striking and was almost dead last and putting. He was number one in Stroke's K and T degree, number one stroke, off the T, number one stroke, gain approach and finished T13. That was impressive.

That's tough. He missed on the T. And then steps right back up and makes the par. It jures it from twice as far away. Yeah. I had more Harry Potter metaphors to explain what happened to our guy, T. P. J. today. Four. Well, he was going to come back after yesterday's 20 puts. And I know Innisfrog is very weird with their encroaching fringes. And I think he was a fringe manipulator.

But literally 20 puts and without a chip, without a hole in from off the grid, 16 one puts on Saturday in shooting 63. That is freaking real. So, they don't call them the wizards, though. They absolutely do not. Yeah, JT had four feet, five inches on 18, and he hit the putt 12 feet, leaving a putt of seven feet, two inches coming back.

That's just special. You wanna get in some shots on Camtron, Goliath, TC? It's not even shots. It's just like, this is why we need the death panel. This guy's made more money now than anybody else in the history of the tour without winning a tour of it. Which brings up an interesting question. Who's the best player ever to play on the PGA tour and never win an event? Monty. Besides Monty. Monty's a different category, I would say.

But yeah, see, I'm with you there. He played a not a few amount of events. Who do you got? So who do you just pass, Brian, Barry or Brian Davis, were like the top pass, Brian Davis? This is per Justin Ray golf, of course, on Twitter. Skip Kendall's up there too. But I'm wondering if there's somebody else in the past, you know, in golf history that would stick out on that list.

It's hard to call Camtron Guller the best of anything, you know, but he might very well be. I don't know. Like he's one of those guys that for this player impact program, they should garnish some of Camtron Golley's wages to help fund the best. That's sick. Sick. That is. Listen, like you're taking more off the table than you're putting back on.

Cool. We're going to, we're going to redistribute. Anytime anybody's wages gets garnished, I mean, I'm, you know, I'm, I'm, you're taking more off the table than you're putting back on. Cool. We're gonna, we're gonna redistribute that. Anytime anybody's wages gets guardished, I mean, I'm, you know, I'm mad. I just think every, like every five, if you, if you, it's not only that he hasn't won, it's that like today was so fucking predictable. What if they, right? Oh man, you got my head spinning now.

What if, I mean, what if there was an independent council, possibly some of the people who had volunteered to be on the death panel, people like yourself and myself, who just scored each person's round and then gave them a tab at the end of the week. Like, here's how much you won and here's how much you got to pay back. Like, Keegan, those late puts that you had,

that's gonna cost you 40 grand. I mean, those were fucking horrible. That forefooter didn't touch the whole. Not even ever. There were two of them. Yeah, they were awful. Like, I had a text from smart and that you know 230 three o'clock. Oh here comes here comes cam We call my god. We call that we should publish the receipts at our text read. He's about to jam it in neutral

Just jam up all the gears it was right on schedule and it's something where like he's he's basically Jam up all the gears. It was right on schedule. And it's something where like he's basically Fina was running his playbook. It's not even him running Fina. Don't do this. Please don't do this. Please don't do this.

It was the birdie on 18 when you're out of contention was a nod to Fina 100%. I give him a ton of credit. That's a secret language that those guys are speaking. He seems like he's put a shit ton of work in. According to Ian Baker-Fench, he was working with the ton of work in. According to Ian Baker Finch, he was working with the TpX guys.

And one of the things I don't like about him puts his glove TPI. TPI, yeah. TpX is the golf ball I think. We're shouting out a lot of sponsors that are not our sponsors right now. Whatever. He puts his glove behind his back on his belt loop.

So does Sam Burns. So, he's kind of zero-concerning, I know. When it's humid in Florida, gland Sam Burns, which is kind of serious. I'm just concerned. When it's humid in Florida, glandular issues, I'm kind of down with that. It doesn't look good, of course. Keep your butts wet off. Yeah, it keeps it, it lets it breathe a little bit and gets a little less soggy.

Like, I, I, going back to camp, I just don't understand like every five years, if you, if you keep your card for five years, but you don't, you don't like do anything, or there's nothing you haven't done anything really, no really other than just keep your card for five years, but you don't, you don't like do anything or there's nothing, you haven't done anything really, no really other than just keep your card. Like shouldn't you, shouldn't you just have to start back over?

All right. I always heard Tringolli didn't win like the Valero Texas open a couple of years ago. Everybody just forgot about it. Everybody just forgot about it. Yes, so we just forgot about it. Yes, so we just forgot about it. So we just forgot about it.

We had two in 2015, one in 2014, yet two thirds last year. If he would have really pressed me, I would have said, oh, yeah, no, he won the Valera Texas Open. Honestly, he's been a sneaky, awesome guy to bet on. Every time I bet on him this year, he was like, just like, just racked up the finishes for me. And yeah, he's 43rd in the FedEx cup and really good at golf just like that doesn't win It is it's even more jarring though to think about like Finau stuff because like we're talking about two totally different caliber players

And fact that Finau still doesn't win is even more mind-blowing than when looking at cam. So Thank you for that. Yeah, I'll concede that to you. They're just non-competitive top five Like he's not he's not gonna win. he's not, he's not gonna win. No. And you know he's not gonna win. And that's, that's fine. He might not even be trying to win for all we know. And I'm not stunting on him.

It's just a, you know, that's just a fact. Maximus had a rough Sunday that's gonna happen. He shot three over today. He's not as best. This buddy's dad's were fine. He didn't hit it very good today. I mean, he was 61st today in Stroke's Game T-Degreene, which that's gonna hurt us.

Just, yeah. The Acerito on two was a harbinger of bad things to come. I feel like taking one off the camera man behind the green there on two was a signal that maybe his distance control wasn't totally dialed in. He almost, I mean, you never know you're guessing on all this stuff, but almost kind of seemed like he was pressing a little bit.

I think he was trying to go get it, which is understandable. And it was true, let's get it moment. Instead, he got got. And that's gonna happen. It's something like he was given all of his putts a really, really good knock. I mean, they were missing high side, just three or four feet by, like really aggressive strokes.

I did dig once he was out of contention. There were a couple that he just blew like five, 10 feet past. The one that he missed on 11. Which was sweet. The five footer that he missed on 11 was tough. Yeah. That was a really good shot in there.

There was a couple that just let the air out of the balloon. Yeah. But hey, that's life on the tour. He still made $241,000 this week. And he made Vontailer money this week. Up to 16th in the all important FedEx cup. Stanings. I mean, he's playing really, really freaking good golf.

He's about to crack the Comcast business pro top 10. Mm-hmm. Whatever. German Fitz 88 asks, who partners Max Holman with the Ryder Cup? He said Shirley JT. Let's solve a couple Ryder Cup calls. Of course.

I think I love the Oak Ryder Cup. Let's keep that up every week. Anytime somebody has like a top 10, just be like, hey, what about him on of Ryder Cup calls. Of course. I think I love the hook rack. Let's keep that up every week. Anytime somebody has a top 10, they're like, hey, what about him on the Ryder Cup? Let's do that for the next five months. That's gonna be so much fun. You just probably watched a lot of Ryder Cuffs on Taylor. Oh, just saying.

He's got experience. He's got experience. He's got experience. To the 2016. The legend there. That's if we're bringing Brett Wetterick. People are asking what the next Brattacop deep time is gonna be, it might have to be on 2006.

It might have to just be on the painting of the 2006 Brattacop team that's in the bathroom now. I get shook every single time. I go and take a piss. It's jarring. One is because the paintings are really bad and nobody actually looks like themselves.

JJ Henry. And two because the names are really bad and nobody actually looks like themselves. JJ Henry. And two, because the names are really bad. Yeah. Can we talk about DJ? Again, Luke he clocked. Unfortunately, not much to say. Is it time for the pre-PGA? What's wrong with DJ?

Think pieces? Or should we wait another week before during those off? The guy won the Master's like seven months ago. Seven months ago. Six months ago. Seven months ago. Six months ago. Anyone with a bone saw? People forget about that.

So he went T2, win second, T3, T6, T2, win T11 and first, rolling from 2020 to 21, ending with the bone saw. And then he finished T8 at the Genesis, but has no other top 10 since he won in Saudi, which is seven events. He's still number one in the world. Right, but I just point out why he is. It's not because of his last seven events.

He's not number one in the power rankings. Yeah, like he is, I believe I saw Will Gray or someone say something about the general muleys around DJ right now, and I found that a great word. Like it's clearly not, he's clearly not the best part in the world right now. And I think it's worth discussing. What's wrong with you?

He missed the cut of the most recent masters. Listen, if you're offering up win one and miss the cut, I'm taking that. A lot of people are taking that. But still, it's a cause for concern heading into the rest of this season. Yeah, I agree. I mean, he seems like one of those guys that,

when he gets off the rails, it's something small that needs to snap back. Right? Didn't we have one of these kind of late last summer? And I know some of that was back injury stuff. And when it flips back, it's like, oh, that never happened. Exactly.

To where it's like, listen, I mean, what are we talking about? Do we think he's done? Like I don't say, probably not. So in that case, it's like, yeah, it's gonna, you know, going back. Stand by, it's gonna snap back., going back and just stand by. It's gonna snap back and, you know, it'll be glorious. I'm sure.

Going back through his results, I don't feel like he always, he plays all that well on the floor to swing that much too. Like he, he always plays heritage for sponsors. You play Gettiterral when they had it. That's true. So it, that was, you know, that was big game. He was hunting down there. And looking at his page on data golf

like he had that stretch where he blew up at the memorial last year and then had a really bad round at the 3M and then played The rest of 2020 where he lost strokes in two rounds and then we're talking barely losing strokes We're talking like one of the best stretches of the decade. Yes, and it's just all huge spikes in the positive yet When you flip over to this year like you see like It's just all huge spikes in the positive. Yet when you flip over to this year, like you see like five, six rounds that are negative strokes game, which is like, if DJ is losing strokes to the field, that's a jarring thing.

That's not a normal thing. All I'm saying is he's missed one cut this year. Right, but like, I mean, it's not like he's, if he's far off, it's not like he's that far off, right? Is he getting married? Apparently. Maybe. He's also missed two cuts this year. He missed the players and the masters and the, oh, I'm sorry, that's Roy. Sorry. I'm on Roy's WGR page.

That's right. We'll get to that. Roy gets to the Freudian slip. We'll get to that. Sorry. He's missed one cut, which was the most important tournament of the year, the masters, the easiest cut to make, probably of any tournament. So yeah, I think there's a reason to be, just get your, get your antenna up around DJ right now. I mean, it needs to turn, it needs something needs to change, clearly.

Sure. Listen, I don't know what that is. I have full confidence that you're out. Cause he's dipping his right shoulder a little bit. Exactly, it's kind of one of those, like, what do you want us to say? It's gonna flip, and if you don't think it's gonna flip, then say you don't think it's gonna flip.

I bet he plays well. It's like Hungary. It's like the speed stuff. Hungary seems like a good fit. I mean, Kiowa seems like a good fit. If it has 18 holes, they all seem like a good fit for DJs. Right. I don't doubt that it will flip, but just note it.

I can, I'm with you there. I think you're being way too alarmist here. No, he's just asking the question. I understand. I understand. You're a journalist. You gotta ask these questions. If he keeps playing like this,

it's not gonna be a good thing. I think that's the sort of thing to say. The golf week's Saggering Rankings, kind of a little, a little bit more of a heat map, still having third. And John Rob, Zander, Shoffley, Dustin Johnson, Victor Havlin. I'd like to officially announce

I've changed teams from the Saggering Rankings to the data golf rankings. And they've got them fourth right now. So, it's not, listen, that's not bad, but you're not clear-cut number one. It's not, you know, as more events fall off, it's, he's not getting better. Correct.

How about Hoveland? Hoveland's up to, up to third in the all-important FedEx scope. Crazy, and fourth in the all-important second ranking. And above Rory now in the world, golf rankings, I believe. Unreal, man.

Like, honestly, you don't share that stuff. Without, oh yeah, so Rory's gonna be 15th in the world by the time you're listening to this episode. If you woke up this morning, somebody asked you, what is Roy ranked in the world right now? What would you guys have said? What a price at 12, yeah, 10th.

I would have said like, oh, he's probably fallen to 6th. Like, I really didn't, like, because these rankings can be sticky, you know, and stick around for quite some time. I just did not realize it had fallen that far. It's been a while, man. It's been a while.

They didn't shout out to Stain. He didn't do shit this week. Yeah, that just, that. Neil loves Stain. Neil does? He did it at least. Stain and Inky Ves is like his two favorites. Well, that's a trend lately.

Inky Ves is, you know, that's a crap favorite of mine. Maybe so maybe there is something to the fans thing, because yeah, he was absolutely just blitzing the golf world right before COVID ravaged things. Yeah. Last thing, I guess, last thing before we move on, I still can't put my finger on hobblins game. So they, I feel like every time we see hobblins on TV, and I'm sorry to turn this into a coverage take, like they're just kind of randomly picking them up,

doing something weird, and they don't follow him through the day. I don't get to watch a round unfold unless I'm watching PGA Tour live with Hovlin. Is that fair to say? Totally, I always feel like I, you know, he'll make three or four birdies in a row, and then they cut to him, and he inexplicably misses like an eight footer by a foot and a half.

And you're like, what the fuck? But like, he's made, he's been making everything up until then. So it feels, feels jarring. Yeah, I agree. I think there are certain, this isn't even a judgment. Like I get why it happens. But I think there are certain like telecasts, darlings, right? Like the guys they're gonna go to no matter what

and show you kind of more of what's going on. And I just, yeah, Hoffman doesn't really seem like one of those guys for whatever reason. He is averaging plus 1.85 strokes gained per the data golf rankings, which is extremely, extremely strong. Like he's just very solid. So good. So good off the tee, so good with his irons.

Just very average-ish with putting an average around the greens, which has been a good strong development for him. So tell you who disappointed today. Joaquin. I mean, it's been a good, strong development for him. So tell you who disappointed today. Joaquin. It's been a couple of those fun rounds. You're expecting Joaquin to step up. 72 to the day.

He shot 68, 68, 67, 72. Just could never get it going. And then I also want to shout out Camilla B. J. Gus. It's up to 94th for the season. Hell yeah. Another one. Playing good golf.

Another good kind of a lead for him. In the shadows of some heartbreak and everything. Definitely. So on the LPGA tour, Hoju Kim has won the, what's the event called in Singapore? I just have been referring to the event in Singapore. I've been calling it the Singapore Masters, which is not called the HSBC Women's World Championship.

She wins by the final round 64 to run down Hannah Green who had quite a topsy-turvy roundover night. She hold out for Eagle on the 14th hole, birdied the 16th and then bogied 17 and 18 to misapply off by one, which is tough, tough way to finish that one. Look how to shit in Singapore. Have to give a shout out to Hoju Kim's son protection. Of course. Of course. It's H.J. Kim.

That's what she's always referred to on the leaderboards and everything like that. Even if that makes DJ uncomfortable, we're gonna call her that. You guys are sick. That's common parlance. The son protection was obviously the big story of the day.

I think she's got like a sun allergy or something I read. Which is why she was all like fully, fully, fully decked out. It was James Driscoll asked. Sun protection. James Driscoll was envious of this kind of sun protection. Go ahead. Interesting tournament to watch. It was, I've been greatly enjoying the kind of the LPGA late night, late night swing LPGA after dark.

Who does the production for that? Is it, I don't know if it felt very like European tour. Yeah, it was really cool. It's intense, I like it. It's just really strong, like committed vibe. And, you get called in a video game course. It looked like a very, like what the hell's the game? Like a WeGolf game, some kind of golden teeth. Like a very golden tea type course, just like, what the hell's the game? Like a Wee Golf game, something, golden teeth.

Like a very golden tea type course, just like. Get the port in the background. Yeah, kind of like, almost like artistic vistas throughout mountains and oceans and like, arbitrary palm trees everywhere. It's everywhere, it's wild. But also looks sick, like, I was like, man, I kind of want to go play that golf course.

That looks sweet. Dude, listen to our Singapore, it was great. Maybe they got monkeys all over the place. Of course. They got snakes, they got all sorts of stuff. I want to give a shout out to Patty Tavitanikit, Fimal round 65. Could have used a birdie or two down the stretch

to get up within one, but another, she's a killer. And be Park up there, T3 as well. It was a fun tournament and in the middle of the night, that was kind of a bit of a bummer after having some really great prime time, but listen, if you're gonna play a Singapore, that's gonna happen. That's gonna happen.

I don't think that was a shot against us. I think there's a schedule in that one for my schedule. I think I thought Lydia was gonna make another run. She had a whole lot as well. She went under through six on Saturday night and then ended up Bogey 11 and was, was one over her for her last 12 holes, but. Did you see the back stopping incident? No.

She hold it from the fair. I mean, it was like from an actual approach that banked off another player's ball into the hole. From how far out? Like over a hundred yards, seasons. Yeah, it's totally safe. It's totally fine. Mad on Sagsdram solo 11th place finish.

Getting some mo go good for her. Yeah, it's found around 71. Didn't get it. Couldn't really get it going there in round four, but that's a tough week for the wild trip. I was there. They had to they couldn't leave their hotel rooms other than they got the golf course. That's yeah.

I mean, Singapore is. Got a ton of delivery. It's snuffed out the vid. They're keeping it snuffed out. Singapore and, you know, Louisiana, I think both snuffed out the vid. Same exact treatment. We kind of even breeze past, I think, her H.J. Kim's final round there, by the way, 64. You're the third person to mention it.

Yeah, I congratulate you. Yeah, congratulations. Yeah, that's 60 64. Yeah, 72 64 on the week. 64 on the weekend. How not to be kids are you. And then the other thing I was going to say was first win in five years. You say that already too did not say that one. Thank you, which seems like bizarre because she's right incredibly incredibly competitive lost a playoff to the US women's open a couple years ago But yeah first first went on the LPGA I should say I was a little bit disappointed to see 2016 so many of the American players skip You know, I know they went to They they ended the what L was it LA they ended early yeah They ended two in a row Hawaii NLA early. Yeah, and I get it like it's a long trip, but you know, you've got Singapore and then Thailand this week and

Brook Anderson, the Cordas, Lexi, they all skipped and I don't know, it just seems like there's there's like it's not like the LPGA is is flush full of bumps. Rimming with sponsors, right? So, you know, support the ones that you can that are that are that are pony and up in these weird times. Yeah, it's gotta just be tough between the Hawaii, back to the mainland and then go back across to Asia and then another Asia event. Probably just when you got a circle and say, I can't play them all.

I hear you, it's very much a, yeah, I don't have a great answer for that. It just seems like it'd be so draining. Like it's just- Totally draining. But it's just- Totally. But it's just frustrating when like, somebody like Brooke Henderson plays like 28 weeks a year. Yeah.

You know, maybe she's trying to change that. I wonder if she's gonna win. If the COVID's grew to me too, just kind of as an extra on top of jet lag, you're gonna have to be confined to this place. But they do, I mean, it's a no-cut event, and everyone gets paid, which is great, which, you know, makes a lot of sense for that kind of event. But yeah, it's a no-cut event and everyone gets paid, which is great, which makes a lot of sense

for that kind of event, but yeah, it's, that's it. Bit of a tough look, I may say. You guys want to talk some pip follow up? I know TC, you haven't got a chance to talk about it on the pod. I don't know, I feel like it's just been kind of weird seeing people's reaction to it.

I guess I shouldn't be weird out by it. I feel like people are making way too much of a big deal about it. I think we talked about it a lot last week and talked about why it was an important thing, but I think people think this is going to be a bigger deal week to week than it is. It's like, it's basically tour. It's just tour internal money distributions. It's not that it's kind of funny, but like I think the right thing to do would have been give Tiger the full 40 million, like this year and next year,

trip him off 80 million and then start the PIP. I could get on board that or it's just a separate 40 for the cat just in perpetuity. Yeah. I would say give Tiger the 40 for him to disseminate as he sees fit. Maybe that would be an interesting play as well. I think the PIP has, as we've kind of looked at it now for what it's been a week, two weeks, whatever it's been, time is a flat circle. It's one of the, it's kind of like the perfect storm

of Twitter, internet, misunderstanding-ness, right? It seems like one of those things that has a very, very easy albeit mostly incorrect headline to latch onto, which is like the PJ Tours giving away 40 million to the person who's best at social media. Yes. And that's so not it. Very obviously not the case.

It, you know, if you were going to make another very, very oversimplified headline, I think a better one would probably be the PJ Tours disseminating $40 million to ward off the PGL and keep their players where they are. And just the PJ Tours is distributing $40 million to its most impactful players. That's in the name, the players that generate the most buzz around the game. And I think it, sorry to interrupt you there, but I think it is, people are, you can manipulate this kind of stuff in theory, right? The way the numbers work with sponsorships and impressions and broadcast time

and all this stuff that you would present, you know, agent would present to a sponsor and all this stuff blah, blah, blah. Yeah, there's some like a lot of noise in that and there is all across the media world but it's not like you can just flip a switch and make yourself relevant in the golf world. Like, it's also not like the PGA tour is gonna just

publish the, you know, it's not like the BCS rankings where, oh, right. Oh, what the, USA Today, coaches pull up this. So, I would recommend, the Taurus, the Taurus. I heard some bots this week. You need to pop your numbers. The Taurus is notoriously closed off

and sketchy about this kind of shit. They can manipulate this any which way they wanna do it. I mean, shit, the fact that Jordan's speech dad runs one of the companies that's putting together these algorithms or these rankings. Yeah, so in that regard, it is very much like just an off the course thing that is not what I find interesting about following golf.

Do I think it's interesting that the tour made a move to basically pay off its most impactful people to fend off the PGL? Yeah, and that was very much worth talking about. Week to week. Every single tweet a player makes like, oh, pip thirsty. Oh, thirsty much. You want some pip action? Like, this is not going to make your break. There is going to be some thirst though. There will be, but like, that's not where it's going to be decided. I'm going to be tweeting that constantly. I think it's fun to point out. No, it's not true, but I'm still be deciding. I'm gonna be tweeting that constantly. I think it's fun to point out guys. No, it's not true, but I'm still gonna keep tweeting it. Like Brooke seems Pip thirsty, right?

Yeah, it's just like some people that are clearly not in the running for this thing, like tweet something and it's like, oh, Pip, you want to eat on that pip? Like that is gonna get old. It's already got an old. I think that's not where the fun for this is gonna come from. No, of course. I don't know if anyone's gonna top the responsive Jim Herman,

who retweeted the article, $40 million going to the PJ Tour's most impactful players and he just quote, tweet, it's my ship has come in. Which really made me laugh. Hard. Shout out to everybody. All right, so going back to the distribution of it, it's like 8 million to the top guy.

I don't know if we know how much is gonna go to it, but it's eight players get the 40 million, which I got we've discussed this last week. Eight million. Two few people to the top guy, I think was the only thing I've known. It seems like they, like Rory's the guy that seems to be driving a lot of this and banging on the table

for a lot of this. And if Roy keeps stinking, they should get his ass outside the top eight and not give him any of it. Well, I think that's kind of defeats the purpose, all right? He's the guy that helps bring buzz to the tour, right? So he should get paid for this. I don't think he's bringing buzz anymore, though. No, I think he is.

I think he is. I think Roy's showing up to your tournament and that's selling some tickets. I think he's going to come see us. As soon as he's in the hunt on a weekend, I think, yes, it think he is. I think Roy's showing up to your tournament that's selling some tickets. Yeah. I think he's gonna come see us. As soon as he's in the hunt on a weekend, I think, yes, it'll feel like Roy is. I'd love to see like big tone or Charlie Hoffman, you serve Roy into the top eight. That's the exact kind of thing

that's just not happening. Yeah, after doing that, it's a really bad algorithm. Yeah, I think. I guess, yeah, I'm just kind of, we're talking about the tors. I know. I'm just kind of... We're talking about the tors. I know. I'm just kind of surprised at how much people seem to be

into following this. And again, it's just, it's a fending off play. That's what it is. And it's a distribution. It could have done it quietly. I think they tried to do it quietly just because I think they were probably aware of the reaction that was going to come preemptively almost

without people really fully versing themselves in what it is, why it's happening. I just don't think that they counted on people to be actually able to take it in. Like to your point, they're gonna say, 40 million, what, you said $40 million laying around and you decide to give to these guys, what about the funneling that mind to the women?

What about the corn fairy tour? What about the champion's tour and all that? And it's like, guys, you're totally missing the point. What I would, I think, like the most, because they're, man, not to pick on anybody, but there were some pick on somebody, baby. There were some really bad takes, like published, really bad published takes about this,

which were exactly what you're saying. Like, you know what? Why don't you just give it to the corn fairy tour? Shut out to Calc. And it's like, what the fuck are you talking about, man? Like, this is not about like, hey, all right guys, we've got this 40 million dollars. Our players are underpaid.

We got this $40 million line around. We could give it to anyone for anything. What do you guys think? Like, that's not what this is. It's not a girly game fun. It's purely keeping the guys where they are to keep the PJ tour rowing in the direction that it's going, keeping people from leaving for the PGA.

That's the end of the conversation. The girly game fund is something separate that they're holding other sponsors hostage. That's a different story. But also if we're talking about a $300 million increase per year in TV rights, right? Where is that money gonna go? It's gonna get distributed.

That money doesn't just pay for the moat at the new headquarters. Yeah, clean the moat, too. Okay, you gotta keep up with the moat. You gotta have a moat boy. That's a moat boy. That's what I was gonna ask. You should be like, you should be like,

you should be plentiful out of the moat boy. That should be a pouch of mystery thing. You gotta go clean the moat. Yes, I gotta go out to, in front of headquarters this week with a sign. Is that your pouch of mystery? Yeah, I gotta figure out what the sign says. So I don't wanna hear any like,

TC didn't pay his bet on time. I wanted to do this specific with a sign. Is that your pouch and bus? Yeah, I got to figure out what the sign says. So I don't want to hear any like TC didn't pay his bet on time. I wanted to do this specific pouch and bus. He tanked his picks. So yeah, again, like a lot of that money, like, Persons are gonna go up on the PGA tour, right? I mean, they have to. If I'm on the PGA tour and I saw that increase

and the money's not going up, like, we're gonna have a couple conversations about that. And to your point, if the TV money's going up that much, like it stands to reason that the money should probably go to the guys driving the TV rating. Sure. And this is a small portion of that increase is going to them.

And I saw a lot of reaction when we talked about, I don't know if it was last week or two weeks ago, whenever it was, but when we kind of talked about this at first, I saw a couple reactants who are kind of like, you know, you guys love this, I can't believe you love this, this is so soulless and like, let me be very clear, like, yeah, it's super soulless. We don't love it.

Yeah, I don't think any of this is like, emotional like hell, yeah, finally. I root for Dustin Johnson's bank account. That's why I root for him and go. I wanna be very clear, this is just like, no, let me explain, like, just explaining why this is going the way it is. And that's what I was, and what I was, smart move totally. And so what I was saying earlier just like, no, let me explain, like just explaining why this is going the way it is. And smart move.

Totally. And so what I was saying earlier was like, the published takes that were very like, you should give it to the children's hospital. It's like, yeah. Oh, yeah, of course, man. Yes, of course they should. And the fact that person's to go down

and charities took a massive hit last year, like, yeah, that sucks. And that should be rectified by the tour, but this is a totally separate instance. Yeah, and the point I'm getting at is like, a published take I would read would probably be more along the lines of like, man, maybe like we've hit the point where there's too much money

in pro golf and now we're rewarding people for like kind of stupid stuff. And be that as it may, we're rewarding them, to keep them in this system, and to ward off another system that would be probably even more of a soulless money grab. Like, I get that, it's not very practical, and it ignores a lot of,

kind of just market forces and guys playing for the most money that they possibly can, but I get why I would turn people off where this might be something where it's finally like, all right, I get why it's happening, but this sucks. I think it is something that people want to kind of brush to the side. When we say like, emphatically, the PGL was a major threat and bigger threat than a lot of people in the Gulf world thought it was. People are like, yeah, yeah, but this money, like, no, that is what we're doing here.

That is what it is. That's the game. You can't push that to the side and then try to have the conversation. Because again, that's what it is. That's kind of where it stops. It's like, all right, now this is in place. Does that probably put the final bullet in the PGL?

Maybe it does, maybe the PGL happens to 15 years. I don't know exactly what happens. I don't really really interesting to see if that pot grows or see it because they've tweaked the FedEx cup, you know, the playoffs and the payouts and all that, especially the first four or five years, they tweaked them a lot. Yeah. And they up the money a ton. I think it'll be interesting to see if they expand it from the top eight to, like, it's

like Team Rose is going to want some of that top that. They're going to be making a play. So a couple questions we got at Robert Wyndon is knowing I'm going to be pivotal in improvement players. Pip absolutely not. Like absolutely not. I mean, we made try to say that to agents, okay, please have your player come on. It'll help their pip. But like, is it going to move the needle?

No. If Tron runs out on one of the greens and Camtron got like punches them in the face, Camtron Golly might get a lot of press out of that. That might move the knee. It's gotta be positive press though, right? They put that qualifier in there. Well, it could be positive, depending on how many enemies you have.

Yeah. Speaking of cash grabs, there's kind of following out the corner of my eye. Chondayly, Mike Weir will tie it for the lead with two holes to play. Wow. And down in Houston, shortened to a 36 hole event because of the rain.

I don't even know this golf course. I'll just say that's got to be an incredible golf course to reward those two different playing styles. That's fantastic. It's the woodlands. That's right. Yeah, that's fantastic. All right, let's give a shout out to our friends at BMW

global partners of the Ryder Cup as well as partners of ours. I hope people have gotten a chance to listen to the 1991 Rider Cup deep dive that we published this past week. It please just go listen to it if not for any other reason that it took me like a year. M-M-G-L bill, I can't quite make out your Twitter handle said, how long did it take from start to finish on the Rider Cup special production? This was a core and team project that Stuart Moore helped me a lot from the PGA tour, setting up interviews that started last April

and every time I kind of uncovered something, I had to go read this book and then go read this book and then find this on YouTube, then talk to this person and piece the whole story together. I knew it was gonna be a big project when it started but didn't know it was gonna spiral out of control to be that big, but there's a lot I want to react to. I had to keep my editorial comments out of it

as much as I possibly could, but there's a lot I want to say about this. I would say go off. What's your guys' reaction? What was interesting to what you guys heard? Hey, I thought I love the Concord anecdote. So good. I was like, all these people are here

like, no, they're gonna see the point in you, you get shit. And then the car accident, or the limo accident. Just the idea of getting across the Atlantic three hours was heady. Yeah. Yeah, the Concord was wild.

You know, he researched the Concord. That was an interesting time. Oh, he flies the Concord, though. I, he goes to his overseas, though. It's no longer in use. Oh, there's one left. That's bullshit. It wasn't was the conchords though. I was too as overseas of. It's no longer in use. Oh, there's one left. Bullshit. It wasn't even the concord's fault.

It was a piece falling off like an MD 11 or L 10 11. It was just also like horribly un-economical apparently. Yeah. You should do a deep dive next, I think. On the concord. No, but I think the car accident's Florence saying to to Ferri, like, yo, like, like, what being it? I'm going to go quote.

It's, so Ferri chunked his putt on the first hole. And I'm assuming this is a said to him very endearingly, but if like, if you don't pull your head out of your ass, I'm going to go, I'm going to go join the other team. You're going to take on all three of us. I'm going to be going to play all three of us. You useless bastard. And like, Ferri got his head out of his ass and played well after that. They got a half point out of it.

But the car accident, like, I'm not going. So it couldn't be less, it couldn't be more different stakes, obviously. But I remember when I was playing in the BMW charity Pro Amp, no, this is the same. With Zach Blair, he was, I was playing like absolute shit, so bad.

And I remember there's, you know, there's like the little food stands, like the little grills and stuff, set up, that's like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I had a great drive. I only birdie the tournament. I got you back into it.

The car accident thing just permeates through the entire Ryder Cup. And how one of my things I despised the most in sports was when people that are not the injured party try to critique the injury of somebody that's saying that they're injured and look so bad to be shot. That's adjacent to H and T so bad to me. Shout out to Jason DeHan TC. Yes, yes. And like people say, like people on the European side like saying that Steve Payt was not hurt and you know,

it's just like the perfect fodder that he did play on Saturday and couldn't play Sunday. And the way, like the conspiracy theories running a mock was just like, one, this is why is the greatest golf event in the world. Like you just don't get the shit for any other professional event anywhere. Can you imagine spending two years of your life trying to qualify for the Ryder Cup team and then getting there and not playing when you're able to take a dive?

Yeah. Yeah, your game is, you came in playing well as the thing. If Wayne Levy was faking it, that'd be a different story because Levy couldn't break 80 that week. And if he was the one that got hurt and I got the half point out of the singles match by not playing, that would be a story. But Steve Payte, and maybe Dave Stockton's overplaying how well Steve Payte was playing,

but he was like, that's my number one guy going to this week, and now he can't play. Many people asking if Sevy got crowned. I played with him. I played with him. God, that was just a shit talking. Sevy is just relentless. Yeah.

It's like, again, that, every time I would joke, go find like a Sevy story, I'd go find like five more. He did this, he did this. And at a certain point, I was like, all right, there is something following this guy. That I really wonder if, I feel like he has been painted as this total and complete hero by golf media for so many years.

Shit, he had maker finish. Must have mentioned him six times today, it's Sam Burk. Yeah, he was huge in Shrewslor. It's just Chaneling. Yeah, it's Chaneling. Sam Burk's is heard of Spain, so yeah. So like, I don't know if he was seeing Baker Finch,

who was somebody on the telecast. I just read all these stories about seven. I'm like, is this like, is this to not the Patrick Reed of this era? I know he won a lot more than Reed has, but like holy shit, man. There's some smoke, for sure. I had two really big takeaways from listening to it.

I thought it was excellent as I said in the podcast last week, but all the background stuff on Kiowa was awesome. Kuwait. You had Kuwaiti's owning it. All the stuff Pete died in with how he had to build a course and with Hugo coming in and messing everything up. You go crowned him.

And Hugo completely crowned him. That was good. And then, of course, the other one, Bernard Gallagher seemed just woefully but hurt throughout the whole process, which was great. Zinger getting Zinger's from all directions was interesting too. Oh, great story about this.

The ball stuff. Yeah, we missed that part. But would you have done with a good ball, Sebi? You have no idea, I mean, times I've heard these clips by the way. But Gallagher, so I reached out to him requesting an interview and he replied nicely saying, you know, I've said all I can say. So I was like, okay, that's fair. You probably have, where is it?

Where is it? Oh, you have this book that you published. It honestly reads like something you've never planned on any American ever reading because it's, which is sick, because today it probably would have just been like either a string of like horrible tweets that would have been deleted or like you know, 10 years ago it would have been. A podcast. Yeah, or now it might be a podcast, but yeah, you know, Bernhard Gallagher dot blog spot dot com for something like that.

Like getting in Dan Coiles' ass about his comments. And in Pave and Zass about the camera hats. And like all this shit about, you know, questioning day stockings character. The highlight reel was great. Yeah, that was actually, I mean, some of the stuff stockings very much like, oh yeah, this was a nightmare.

What was the deal? Didn't, did Stockton get a Christmas card? Or did he send a Christmas card? He a game, which is an asshole move? He sent a card with Stockton and the winning red cup to Tupor and our Gallagher and Gallagher threw in the fire. That's sick. That's a power move. It's Stockton that says again, I don't like him.

I don't even think he likes himself. It's like that's the kind of shit we need for these captains. It's way too friendly these days. I remember when Randy and I were at the, Randy and Neil and my dad and I were at the 20. Were you there too? You're at the, like the PGH Championship

at Atlanta Athletic Club. Nope, never been out. And Steven Gallagher was playing and we were just shit-faced. I'm up with each shirt, something like 14 or 15. And Gallagher comes up and you know we have no idea who he is or we're like hey who is this guy's a club pro or whatever is family sitting right in front of us and so the whole time we're talking about Gallagher the guy that's the fruit and stuff.

Especially water. We were really entertaining ourselves and she just looks, she just turns around, she's not a club pro down there. Oh gosh. So yeah, that, Galt, I don't know, Bernard Longer actually spending the time to go over detail. Like how many times he told that story? And 30 years later, he doesn't even know who I am. He just gives you every detail. I gotta say, maybe this is just kind of, you know, the way the legends work.

I assumed it was a way shorter part than six feet. Maybe five, I mean, it's hard to tell. But yeah, even I mean, I remember this was pretty shot link. That's true. Yeah, I just always assumed it was like a two or three footer. No, yeah, from the way the highlight looks and stuff. Like, you know, yeah, people miss five footers all the time. Calcutta two footer on on 17 for double bogey to win the match. I mean, yeah, Calc gone and

all that detail about, you know, he was sick. He's like, yeah, I was, you know, I got a lot of power. Everything blasted out of my mind. Yeah, I got everything's a blur. I don't remember any of it. That writer cup, man, it just gets my, it really did change, change the writer cup. Change the game, man. I really appreciate everyone's, all the messages we've gotten about it.

And, you know, as soon as we finished, finish, I swear we never do another one again, but take nominations for what the next one will be. Am I taking another year before we get it out? But- It takes to be on W2 supporting that kind of- Yeah, that's their idea of sponsorship is to kind of support that kind of content, which we greatly appreciate another listener's due too.

So this next one has TC written all over it. I'm gonna seed my time on this one. I've said enough. I've said enough. No, this is what every time anyone on this podcast seeds their time, they wait for one person to say one thing and then they dive right in, they look like the hero for seeding their time.

Tell us about Omar Eresti winning the PGA Clutch Championship. He won again, he's a scumbag. Yeah, there's nothing else I can say about it. People will remember where were you and Omar Eresti? I feel like I put this out into the world a few years back, you know, four or five years ago. And Gilmour and I have had our exchanges on Twitter over the last, you know, year two years, three years.

And he's taken exception to some of the stuff that I've said, but it just seems to go way against the spirit of the club pro championship, right? No, I mean, he barely played on tour in fairness. 377 career starts. He was really, his career was cut short, you know, from his first start in 1991 to his most recent start in 2021. I don't want to. Shitty, was it Quail Hollow?

I know. He didn't know the shade. It was so hot out there. Like, my bigger problem with him is he's so fucking slow. It's incredible how slow slow Mar is. I don't wanna throw more gas on this fire, fire me if I'm gonna do that, but he also has 210 corn fairy stars now.

Oh my God. Some context from a friend of the pod. Omar 377 PJ Tour starts Ricky Fowler 265 Dustin Johnson 284 Justin Rose the consummate pro Justin Rose 362 great he's got a lot of Euro Tour starts of course and Rose does but still I would say Omar too it's like you know people say it's the what about is them well what about these are four other guys that are in the field that are, that are kind of doing the exact same thing that are not really employed by a club.

And I'd say, yeah, yeah, kick them out too. Can you imagine if Ricky just totally, I know it's not the same thing, but what if Ricky just, you know, continued his decline, totally lost his game, and then became a club pro in like 10 years, and was just beating the shit out of everybody. But he's not, but instead of actually working in a club, he just goes and acts like works at a club pro in like 10 years and was just beating the shit out of everybody. But he's not, but instead of actually working in a club, he just goes and acts like he works at a club. Like, I mean shit, all the people that run into him down in the section events down in Austin,

they're like, it's unbelievable. He's going from this Texas PGA event to the PGA of America section event. So there's just, there's like, he, every day he's playing a new tournament. So, other, totally obviously a fair and balanced report here, but on the other side of it,

I can't imagine what it's like to, like, be ultra, ultra competitive, like these dudes are, and then kind of get to a point where you just have nowhere to really play anymore. When you feel like your game's still in good shape, and like, what I'm getting at is like,

there should be some rule where this is not allowed. Right. I would think so. I would say the cutoff is somewhere between one and three hundred seven. I don't know. I agree. But if that doesn't exist and he's out there playing like dude I'm playing they said I could play so I'm going to play.

I kind of like go play some. Go play some many tour events then. Right. If you want to scratch that itch because I mean or play better and and get on the Get on the champion store like but that that's turning into much more of a closed system close circuit I want to hear maybe I'll put this challenge out to people I'd like to hear some more resumes that look like Omar Eurasd's 377 career starts no top two finishes No wins no runner-ups. That's so many starts to never finish top two in a tournament. He has two third place finishes.

14 top 10s and 377 starts. That's like legitimately hard to do. Get that many starts without top 10ing. That's like a next level Camtron Golly. No, Camtron Golly puts up top 10s, dog. That's true. Currently, he does. I want to see how many overrunner on how many top 10s for in Camtron Gulles career? Like 30. I don't care. I'm staying at it. Of course this is gonna take a while to get there

on the PGA tour website, but I'm there. 26 top tens in 299 starts. So not that, not that on some. How many top tens do you think Dustin Johnson has? 377. He has a hundreds you think Dustin Johnson has? 377. He has 96. He's got, so the fourth through 10th, so he's 1173, 91. He's got 126.

Jesus, that's a lot. Go to golf. All right, a couple random notes, I think this, I'm pulling from the bottom of the agenda here, but for positive COVID test this week, is this really, is this the thing? Is this, you know, I, I kind of feel like there's a way to avoid that. We have a little Leon, little Leon let situation go in here. Feel like our, our tour pro is getting vaccinated.

That's kind of what we're getting. Well, they're worried about getting microchipped. Oh, yeah. According to big J. Monane. Our tour pro is getting vaccinated. That's kind of what we're getting at. Well, we're worried about getting microchipped. Oh, yeah. According to Big Game On It, and... The fact that he included the head in his... Was that a thing? He included it in, he's like, yeah, we're not changing your DNA,

we're not microchipping you. He said that in his email to players, and now saying that they were not going to be tested if they got vaccinated. I got to look announcing that they were not going to be tested if they got vaccinated. I got to look into that. Yeah, it just seems like. Well, I talked to a couple pros about it, but they're like, I guess the hard part is, getting in the same spot three weeks, you know, like on three weeks away from the separate date, because how much they travel. But you can do Johnson and Johnson. You can do it in different spots.

Right. Now, I'm wondering why the tour isn't like setting this up or are they, I don't know, but it's surprising that at this point that, you know, you could have four positive tests. What would have to assume if the tour, the tour has been really like really good about the COVID stuff.

I agree. I would have to assume they've been equally as good about the vaccine stuff. They're putting out fucking PSAs about like, go get vaccinated. I got to assume that some of the, I'm saying like ultra conservative members of the town. Yeah, of course.

Of course, I'm just saying like, I don't think, you know, I don't doubt you can point the tour of that. They're doing their part. Yeah. JT successfully hit a driver off the deck and it was very thirsty for a shot. Total pip, total pip move, right?

We should do our own pip. That's what we said last week of, of, who do you think's leading right now? No, among us. That's what I'm saying. Oh, okay. Yeah, who do you think's leading? Probably Neil.

It's, it's, it's such a MOOC. He's a media darling. Is it all positive? Is it all positive engagement? That's a great point. We can look at a lot of the set of it. And a lot of it's just people making Twitter. So people making fun of them for air bail,

it greets, all that stuff gets filtered out. Yeah. Yeah, that I see. I see no way that could go poorly. Solid's a manipulator running the main, the main Twitter account for these days uncatchable. Speaking of manipulation, no top five for John Catlin this week over on the Euro tour.

I'm guessing there were a lot of points for that. Speaking of John Catlin this week over on the Euro tour. I'm guessing there are a lot of points for that. Speaking of John Catlin, uh, should Ricky have gotten an exemption into the PGA championship as John Catlin did. I'm thinking we have talked about this. Wait, Ricky did, right? Yeah, he did. Yeah, yeah. I got no problem.

John Catlin too. Yeah. Sick. Which he's won like three times on the Euro tour. That's an understandable exemption. Ricky has one less than that. Dude, it sucks. Like that, yeah, that sucks.

I mean, they have an exemption for 2018 brighter cupers, right? If you're in the top 100. Okay. And he fell out of the top 100. And he got in via President's Cup then. Oh, he got in by a special exemption. I thought they leaned on something though.

No, he was. He should have. He should have. Well, yeah, he was on the rider cup. He should have gotten in as a 2018 rider cup member if he stays inside the top 100, which he has not. It's I don't know. The whole thing's pretty, pretty unbecoming. I mean, are we worried about who that spot would have gone to? Like, or does that make sense to have Ricky Fallon the PGA championship? That's where I'm at. Like, who's he bumping out? He's not bumping out Omar.

Of course not. Omar's coming. I'd have to look at the rankings, I guess. But like this feels to me like, dude, if you're, yeah, I don't know, Ricky should go play the European tour, just manipulate his way back up. Does it help the PGA championship to have Ricky Fowler in it? Like at least a little bit. No, I get that, but it's a fucking major. Like, this is kind of like,

you can't do clown stuff in a major. Yeah, this is it. Well, that's a take I would listen to. No, there's only three majors this year. The Tori is not a major. The players is a major. There's just kind of a major. Oh, that's right, we did sit.

Yeah. Ma'am McNeely currently number 101 in the world. I mean, if he, like, it wouldn't have gone to the next guy. Does it go to the next guy? No, I know, but the point point being like, dude, there's, there's probably going to be a lot of guys who are right on the bubble. I don't know. I just, there is still a set field number, right? Like, they're not going to go over 156 or whatever. So,

someone's getting bumped out. Like, someone's, I mean, someone's not getting a spot. It's not like they're going to just add more clubbrows or something. Like, I don't know how, I don't know how all the exemptions work, but there's clearly somebody who's not getting in. Should they make it over? I like to reserve my judgment. My judgment, till I know who the name is. What the name is, right?

I guess, but that just... That feels so subjective and sheer. This doesn't feel like a Tony Romo situation. And that's where I think people are trying to paint it as a little bit, right? Is, you know, oh, it's great, man. It's good for this tournament. Technically, the strongest field in golf. We're growing a game. And it's like, dude, this is a, yeah, but this is a major. I thought we weren't really supposed to do that major. It's supposed to be a meritocracy.

Yes. So I'd like to know who else they've used this on in the past. What other exemptions? I get if we didn't get upset at those, I struggle to get upset with Ricky. I literally don't know. I don't follow the exemption criterion to the decision. They gave an open exemption into Whistling Straits because he was close and yeah, I feel like they've done that. There's a track record for that. If you had an exceptional performance at that same venue, you know, years prior. Maybe that's your last shot it. Maybe there's just a slush fund of special exemptions that they give out and nobody usually cares about it, but that's just I don't know. All right. So here we go. Here we go. The PJ in 2019, the PJ

of America reserves the right to invite additional players not included in the categories listed above. Do you want to hear who that who was added? Ricky Valor. Kiritak Abibonra at Lucas B. R. Guard, Alexander Bjork, Sam Burns, Jorge Campio, Ross Fischer, Ryan Fox, Dylan Fratelli, Chesson Hadley, Justin Hardy, Brian Harmon, Lucas Herbert, Bo Haas, or Shugo Imara, Jazz Jan Awatanaan, Brandon Jones, Kurt Ketayama, Patton, Kazair Russell, Max Satoshi Kadair, Miko Kernen, Tom Lewis, Lee Hal Tongue, David Lipski, Luke List, Mike Lorenzo Vera, Yoselout and Sean Norris, Adriano Teggi, Eddie Pepperel, Papperes, Richard Stern, Steve Stricer, Julian Surrey, Michael Thompson, Eric Vrenroy, and Matt Wallace and Lee Westwood. Wow.

That seems to put a bullet. Delicious. This is the first time here in this. This is the first time here in this. But maybe that may just be like straight up off ranking. So maybe that's the rest of the ranking time hearing of this. This is the first time hearing of this. But maybe that may just be straight up off ranking. So maybe that's the rest of the ranking list that they're filling off of. Right, doesn't that feel like it would be so much overlap

from that just feels like I won the Masters and like he's in the top 15 of the world. He's raining masters. He's had a US Open win in the last five years, that's the real thing, right? Yeah. Gosh. I was like special invitations or those were the category 12 for PGH, championship, uh, quality case.

That's the case and I take back everything I said and I have no issues with it. I wasn't trying to dunk on you. No, that's very helpful. Do you apologize? I apologize. And so Ricky's wrong and those were not special invites and those were just like numbers. It's category 12. One through 100.

Then I'm going to. I'm sure that is a big way of how they fill it, right? But like Ricky, like the 111th player on that list makes a lot of sense or whatever that would be. So, I mean, there's a lot of manipulators on that list so I'm guessing it came from World Rankings. Yes, that's what I'm saying. I think because there's a category and I don't that list so I'm guessing it came from World Rankings. Yes, that's what I'm saying. I think, because there's a category

and I don't know if it's listed out there separately, but I thought it was supposed to be like everyone inside the top 100 as of a certain date. That's what that list screams to me, is like everybody who lets invite, you know, the guy who is inside the top 100. See, this really looks like some matrix, right? Well, not really, there's like two guys

who are inside the top 100 and Ricky's not, that it feels like, what is Ricky right now? 111th, I think. Hate that form. So yeah, members of the most recent US and European radical teams provided there in the top 100 of the OWG are as of one week before the start of the tournament is a criteria. Right. God, Ricky's just been a tough scene. So anyways, the way that list is getting filled and we have that's where we have a lot of the issue with how the official World Golf rankings are accumulated. So if somebody gets bumped from that list for somebody like Ricky, I got no problem with it. So yeah, I don't know. It feels like the pip a little

bit where it's like, listen, you can't, I can't what you're saying, but you can't just arbitrarily give out money to who you think is the coolest guy. You got to have some sort of metric. And the best metric we have right now is the OWGR. I just can't make myself care when a guy like Omar Eresti is running a mock, gobbling up spots. Who bring up spots? Michael Vasecki was a viral sensation, I guess, on the Interwebs this week, Monday, Qualifier,

and that had a very emotional reaction to it that was viewed very, very many times. 37 Mini Tour wins, 5Q school appearances, seven-year pro, his first PGA Tour of any, Miss Cut by a few shots, but that was a story that even us can't get upset about this week. Oh, it was great. We talked about the PIP a lot, and I think he's ranking so high.

I mean, as a total PIP move to call his dad, most of what has, gets all the, all the minutes, all the talking is, you know, these, the top 10 players in the world. And it is good. Every time you get swept up in PGL fever or something like that to just PGL fever and catch it. Catch it. Remind yourself of, you know, the fact that there's still a ton of awesome stories and that's a big part of what makes the BJ tour great as well.

So it was awesome. I wanted to watch it and actually shout out to the Friday broadcast was, I thought the Friday broadcast was really interesting this week and maybe I just don't have watched a lot of Friday broadcast in the last couple of weeks but make it to concerted effort to. Yeah, I thought it was kind of like cut watch a little bit and they're showing Viseki and they're showing Phil and I know a lot of the, you know, I Yeah, I thought it was kind of like cut watch a little bit. And they're showing Viseki and they're showing Phil. And I know a lot of the, you know, I think a lot of it was happenstance

where the feature groups just happened to be on the cut line. But it was so much more interesting watching, like he has to play his last nine and 200 to make the cut, rather than like here's a guy who's arbitrarily playing well and he maybe or maybe won't be involved in the weekend. It was great. I loved it. It was fun to watch Viseki. It's fun to watch. If I'm tuning into golf at four o'clock on a Friday afternoon, I'm probably a pretty sick guy who's willing to watch some names like I have no

idea about. And so I kudos to golf channel. That's probably not an easy thing to do. I would say the tour in general just, you know, the Viseki thing happened on Monday and went nuts. And like they were ready come Thursday, like with video crew out there documenting his first hole, made a bird in the first hole, hit a 334-yard drive, like they followed up on let you follow the story. And they have the resources to do those kind of things

and they don't do them or have not in the past. And I thought that was something commendable. I'm allocating the resources to the right stuff. Weirdly trending in a very good direction, PG and Tor social, which is- I think CVS too, just going back to today. Some of the, I thought Keegan was gonna get pissed at the long arm on-

The boom height. On, no, the camera on 12 on that green that he yanked a little bit long left of that green. And it was like way out over the green looking at his pot and I'm like, dude, that thing is in play. That is in your eyesight. And they had a few of those, what was his dominant eye?

Or his non-dominant eye? That's true. It might have been his non-dominant eye. We could say. Yeah. And I just, I felt like they had a really good cadence the first hour or so. And then it just got so stratified and then they did

a couple funny drive-bys early on or like midway through where like here's Charlie Hoffman badly missing like a like a 12 foot for birdie. Bob, Bob, Bob. They did some weirdly, weirdly funny stuff Saturday too like Nancy was harassing you and Baker Finch about yeah it's funny to hear you talk about the NFL. You drafted three tight ends in the first five rounds in our fantasy draft. Like a couple, I actually, I laughed out loud a couple times. I feel like the whole crew,

what was given this week? We couldn't, yeah, right. I can't figure it out. Yeah, who was that? They just had so much better flow to get. I just don't know what, why would that be? I have, I have, I have, I have. So, mumbles.

The whole crew seems like they're loosening up a little bit. I think this goes back to the PJ tour. Social stuff, I think it goes back to a lot of stuff, is all these people seem like they just kind of need to see the ball go through the hoop, right? Where it's... It's just golf. It's just golf. Like, you do it a couple times and people respond positively and then it's a lot easier

to do it more. And I think it just, they ask, like, to the matter of getting over that, over the hump and showing like, no, it's okay. You can let your hair down. You can ask each other questions. Trevor, I'm a man, tees up, Doddy. Like, can you get this up over this tree, Doddy?

And Doddy's ready with an answer. Like, that kind of stuff is added. Doddy's had it. And they lay the fuck out for the player, Cady Combo's. And like, give you the whole stuff they got with burns on Saturday. I forget which hole they were on, but it was like, do you know, just wedge cover this,

blah, blah, blah, and it was into the wind and it was very much a speed, growler situation. Like, no, don't hit the spending when it's gonna come up short and sure enough, it came up short and spun off. Like now when I see that shot, I'm like, oh, I know exactly what the thought process

was and where they made the mistake. Where if you don't have that in there, I'm just like, whoa, how the hell did he miss that short? What a bad shot that shot. I'm like, oh, I know exactly what the thought process was and where they made the mistake. Where if you don't have that in there, I'm just like, whoa, how the hell did he miss that short? What a bad shot that was. And it just makes you understand what's actually happening in the golf tournament, which is greatly, really appreciated. And it's teed up, Ian Baker French, a few times too, today, like just, especially down the stretch. And then, yeah, it's making the shops of the tournament too. They've been bounced around so many times. And it's a good golf tournament. Tracy West does a fantastic job

and regardless of where it is on the schedule, hopefully it kind of settles back into March next year. It kind of seems like one of those that's low key like settling in, right? Like it's kind of been there for a low key amount of time and there's starting to be some history there. And just one thing we had on the agenda, I don't know if we really specifically got to it,

but there are a couple of people talking about, this stretch between the masters and the PGA doesn't really have any juice. And there's what do you do? Do you add a WGC? Do you add some bigger event? Antfields 25, what can turnies between the masters and FedEx cup, excluding excluding majors due to get attention

or more big, big name players to play? Well, and I think that if the PJ Tour is going to be what the PJ Tour is, which is a collection of, you know, 200 different types of players, like the way it is now. If it should get the death panel. If it's going to be that, which it obviously seems like it's going to be for a long time,

it's not the PGL. There is a bunch of different types of players. You can't, having that many really big restrictive events messes up the flow for a guy like Sam Burns, right? Where those guys, like, I mean, some of the names I rattled off there, I mean, we can roll our eyes at the Tringolies and A-B answer, Vontaler, Troy Merritt, a walking Neiman, I guess, to a lesser extent. Let those guys are top 30, like even some of them.

But like, you know, Bronson Brigune, Hank Lebiota, Adam Shank, like some of those guys it's like, dude, if you're, if you're having, you know, if you can only get into two events over the course of two months, like, yeah, you're probably not gonna keep your car. Well, and the tour has to, every time you have a WGC, the tour has to stand up a opposite field event. Right. For that, which, that's so,

that's two events that you have to start that. Right, and so for that reason, and like getting those guys the reps and stuff, it kind of seems like Vals bars and stuff like that, have, I don't know, maybe it's wishful thinking, but it has a bit of a chance to have like that be their identity, right? Well, going back to the player impact program,

that was one of the things, right? They have to play one event above and beyond the minimum schedule to be eligible for the payout. And do one or two corporate days with like PGA to our sponsors. So that it seems like they're incentivizing them to get more skin in the game too. So yeah, I mean, it's really, it's what the answer to the question

was asked is more money. The big players show up for the big purses. You can just draw a correlation model on big purses and great feelings. I guess what I'm indirectly getting at is like, I don't know that I really need another big event between the masters. I'm with you there.

It's like, yeah, give, but to have some lower key events and give ramp up to the beginning. Yeah. Yeah. Um, by the way, what's the, uh, is the Comcast business top 10? Are they still getting a big ass payout too?

For sure. I would assume so. I assume that takes place of the windom reward completely slides into that I doubt the Comcast business top 10 is free. Just get free cable just guessing they get free HBO show time ATVD 76 when is it a match place situation. It's total match play situation. Total FPS. God, you are all over FALTO. What last week or two weeks? Every week. It's never like these two are playing match play. Unless, unless you are playing a match play event. Right. Or to play off. Yes. A one hole playoff. A sudden that's a total match. That is a total matchplay situation. Never any other situation is a matchplay situation.

Double still worse than a bogey. Two and three shot swings can happen in stroke play events. It is not a matchplay situation. Total matchplay situation. Definitely not a matchplay situation. I listened, but where did you guys fall out on the Zurich thing? Is it four days of all shot. I think that's better.

I kind of get why they don't, but... I should do three days of all shot and one day of two man's scramble. Sure. I felt very apathetic, okay? And I'm like, listen, I'm probably only gonna watch this on Sunday. We're being honest. Sunday, four times was sick. I don't really care what you do the rest of the day.

I'm kind of with you there. Anything else before we wrap? That feels, oh, Formula One, I missed the race today. Of course. It was fine, it wasn't. It was a good start. Good to see Max assert himself early and then good to see Lewis completely take the wheelback from him. Yeah.

Podas just shitting himself. Are you sure? Will you apologize to the Alpine folks? Nice seventh and eighth finish. I kind of apologize for shit. They're zero get fired. Yeah. He left or we got fired or something.

He got forced out, I think. You didn't know that. We talked about it on the draft plot. I think I missed that. Analogs is on the tea. I do miss the Renault's being yellow and black. I know, the Alpine colors, it's way too confusing. They look like bad Williams.

And then you've got the Aston Martin, that dark green, it just blends in with the Mercedes thing. It's not as colorful of a grid this year. I'd like for you to publicly, you know, nice ride from Checo, nice ride from Lando. My team's gonna be- Checo's my guy, Lando was really impressive. It's been impressive from Lando.

Stroll sucked, I think we could say that. Bad weekend all around. It was a bad weekend for Alpha Tari it was Pierre got got a point I think but you know Yuki's Yuki's He's good about to get black flagged after like the fifth lap of every race. It's sick Coffee goes off one more time. He's gonna be pulled off the track Did they have Barcelona? I can't see over the steering. Oh, yeah, it was a horrible race Barcelona's like one of the worst races because that's where they do the practice all the they have Barcelona on the track? I can't see over the steering wheel. Oh yeah, it was a horrible race. Barcelona's like one of the worst races

because that's where they do the practice. And all the drivers love it too, right? I don't know. But remember watching Sevy there? Yeah. Haha. Sevy's birthday was last month. Seins is gonna be absolutely, oh god.

Oh, this is for Sevy. Sevy's. He grew up watching Sevy race. Seins was terrible. Sey, he was tough. Yeah. I think Seins is, I don't think signs and stroll are that different.

I don't know what to do with that. I don't know what to do with that. And then a lot of people are asking me to apologize for Massopin. If will you? No, Massopin's sick. He cost Chekko like four seconds today when he wouldn't get out of the wave.

Would he speak a lap? Okay, I'll speak. Probably for the second time. I loved when Hamilton was racing against Chekka. Chekka was leading Hamilton with asking him. He was laughing. He was laughing. He was laughing. Hey, is this guy lap tonight?

He will allow me through and like, they're like, no, you're racing. He's leading the race. He's the first place in the race. That was sweet. It's always good when you had like multiple, multiple drivers talking about Mazapid. That's great. What is this fucking idiot doing? It's always good when you had multiple, multiple drivers talking about Mazapid. It's great.

What is this fucking idiot doing? It's the bottom moron. Get out of the way. I thought it makes you a macro had a pretty good job today. Yeah, he's making lemonade. God, George, tough scene for George. George was horrible. I don't know what I had.

I had the gremlins. Yeah. I hate seeing him get gobbled up by the gremlins out there. So I don't need to go back and watch this one. Not really. I would go back and watch some highlights. There was a fraction in the second lap or third lap.

Watch the restart from the caution. Awesome overtake by Max of Hamilton, which you don't see very much. And then Hamilton, I mean, he just, completely smashed it back. Check it was on the on tires like 20 laps longer than anybody else. He was insane.

Did he pay it on the last lap? No, he didn't, well, he pitted twice. Or no, did he pitted again? He didn't p it till like, he didn't p it till like, 45-50 lap, this crazy. But then it was fun to watch. I mean, I know it's obvious why it happens,

but it was fun to watch the gap because everybody pitted except Checo. It's fun to see the gap start out at like 11 seconds and just see like, oh shit, here he comes. Now it's seven seconds. Now it's five seconds. Now it's three seconds. Okay, he's gonna pass them.

All right, I think that's gonna put a wrap on this week. Thank you everyone for tuning in. What are you doing tomorrow? Oh, that's right. We have a US Open Local qualifying tomorrow. I got a... Where are you going? We are going to Plantation Bay, the club that bombed all.

Just about an hour south of here. I needed to get out of Jax and away from Orlando, way too many pros, I looked at the pairing sheets. I made the right call. 51 dudes for three spots, it's mostly pros where I'm at, but I looked at the sheet for Jax and Bill, I want nothing to do with that one. Who are some of the big names in Jax and Bill?

I mean, it's not the biggest names, but dudes that are like, that guy's five shots better than me. That guy's five shots. And listen, this field is still better than me, but it's gonna take, what I wanted to avoid the most was if I played a great round and then just got beat by a volume of dudes that are corn fairy dudes,

that was gonna be the hardest thing to swallow. Whereas if I go play a great round tomorrow, I think I can get through. It's gonna take a somewhat of a miracle, but hey, that's why I would bring in the miracle maker on the bag. That's right, I got young Neil Schuster carrying the bag and I couldn't feel bad about that.

Besides getting a suit tailor, he said he will hopefully be there 15 minutes before the tea time. Yeah, I don't know if he's wearing the suit for the catting or what it's for, but also what tailor opens at 7 a.m. I don't know. Just the tailor's have some weird out. Completely unbelievable string of messages from deal. Yeah, my cat is going to be rushing to the first team, which is a tremendous vibe. So, what if he's gonna be hiding? Our process worked pretty good. We're gonna be hiding Pepsi's all over the game.

He's gonna be hiding jewels all over the game. He's gonna be hiding jewels all over the game. He's gonna be hiding Pepsi's all over the game. He's gonna be hiding jewels all over the game. He's gonna be hiding jewels all over the game. He's gonna be hiding jewels all over the game. He's gonna be hiding jewels all over the game. He's gonna be hiding jewels all over the game. our process was great at the at the four sims event in December and I I kneel kneel kneel kneel kneel is going to be good on the back. What do you think gets it done? Do you have a number

in mind? You know you can't you can't go into these things with the number in mind. You know these things. T.C. Before I or four hundred. I thought you did. But if you could go to my four hundred you're great. Uh 72. Like par 72. It's a good tough golf course, but it should fit me pretty good. Par 72, it's a good tough golf course, but it should fit me pretty good. I really am loving playing some tournaments and qualifiers with a fade now. Like I see golf courses differently. You've been eating full days. I've been eating a lot. I'm hoping to be in a flay tomorrow night.

I, I just feel so much better about getting the ball in play and using my iron game. And I just need to need a hot round for the putter and we're going to be, we're going to be totally fun. So we're going to have fun no matter what. know that there's it's absolutely zero pressure. What's that tell me a little bit about the course club that ball malt is a mind of the 2018 rider coach. It's a pretty cool. It's a pretty cool course. It has pretty big greens. elevation change to it and it's wide enough for a Florida course. Couple getable par 5s on it. Some real tough par 4, like 18s, 492. There's a 470 par 4 and this is a US Open Qualifier. So this is going to be stretched out

and about as hard as possible. But it just seems like it, you know, there's room to breathe and room to get creative a little bit and you know, greens that were somewhat easy to read. And I feel like it's a decent fit. And I kind of just randomly signed up for it. So we'll see. They made a point on their website to say,

private golf club. That's how you know I'm gonna play good. Okay, you know, I'm gonna feel welcome there. Oh, even more welcome than I'll feel. That guy plays. Ev all over the place. Randy and I were on a heater this week. You know, the best place in golf.

Cowl Club and then we went to Colonial and Randy couldn't have been more at home at that place. Randy and I were on a heater this week. You know, let's put some golf. Yeah, let's put some golf. And then we went to Colonial and Randy couldn't have been more at home at those places. Oh yeah. God, they're not who they tell you they are. They're just, they're not. I saw the strap always, you know, have themselves a day at the Lou Lemonstore.

Yeah. For what that's worth. They were like kids in a candy store. Well, we looked nice stuff. What? What? The kid. What? What? The kid. What?

What? Uh, all right. I think now that's officially a wrap. Let's get some sleep. And thank you, Rump Tune in. Cheers. Cheers. Rump in.

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