No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 429: Wells Fargo Recap

Episode Date: May 10, 2021

We chat about Rory's resurgence, Quail Hollow, Viktor Hovland vs. Morikawa, the PGL (and the SGL?), Korn Ferry Tour news, LPGA, Patrick Reed, Walker Cup, and a lot more.  Learn more about your ad cho...ices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying a podcast, Sully here in the Kill House on a Sunday night. A lot of golf going on all around the world this past week. We're going to try to get to all of it.
Starting point is 00:00:39 T.C. is here on my left. T.C. how are you? I am great. It was up in Northwest Ohio this weekend. It was low 50s. Mm, felt so good. That's gotta be pleasant. We're done with that down here in Jackson,
Starting point is 00:00:51 to my right on the screen. And actually probably behind me if we're talking literally way out in Denver, big Randy, how are you? Good evening gentlemen, I am well. TC, I hope you enjoyed God's country up there in Northwest Ohio. I did I did You know, I was you know, it was a little bit a little bit scattered the whole time. That was keeping my head on a swivel with that Chinese rocket
Starting point is 00:01:13 And did it come down yet? Yeah, where did it where did it land? In the ocean in the Indian ocean off the Maldives. Yeah in the Indian Ocean off the Maldives. Yeah, probably fortunately, but also a little bit unfortunately, in my opinion. Well, I think you said it best. It could have been the ultimate rub of the green situation of all time. God, could you imagine just getting your day ruined by a falling Chinese rocket from nowhere? Tough. On a somewhat different note, speaking of falling rockets, I'm going to talk to you guys
Starting point is 00:01:43 about the epic speed. We've talked about drivers a lot. We have not talked about fairway woods. And I have to say, I've been hesitant to change my fairway when I use the epic flash for probably too long. You have been very hesitant. I put the epic speed in and immediately, I kind of, I thought I'd like the kind of spoon,
Starting point is 00:01:58 what do you call it? The epic flash looks like a spoonier face. Like, you know what I mean? A little bit deeper face. Yeah, deeper face, the epic speed is back to that flat face look that I think I use the original epic. And this is the best three wood I've ever hit. I went to it immediately.
Starting point is 00:02:12 I've never had a three wood that doesn't like hook on me. And this one does not. I actually, first time I've ever hit a fade with a fairway wood, used it in my qualifiers the last couple weeks. I told our guys the color was like, I want to talk about this and that was two qualifiers ago. The last one didn't go so great, but the one before that,
Starting point is 00:02:28 I hit a lot of fairways with three woods and there's two models of epic fairways. There's the speed and the max, the max has a slightly larger footprint. It's meant to help with a slightly higher launch angle, a little more draw bias. And the epic speed has got a little more compact footprint, more standard launch angle, neutral shot shaping bias. Both the epic speed and the epic speed is a little more compact footprint, more standard launch angle, neutral shot shaping bias.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Both the epic speed and the epic max are available in three, three strong, five and seven woods, and then the epic speed also has a forward option. Which is, I'm most excited about going back to right handed. Cause you want a forward? I want an epic, epic speed forward. Just perfect. I'm interested.
Starting point is 00:03:02 The max also has a couple cult classics, the heaven wood, the nine wood, and even an 11 wood, which I see Randy's eyebrows parking up with that. Mm. Randy, that's in your future. Out in Denver, have you played golf yet? No, no rounds yet. You can learn more about Epic Fairway Woods
Starting point is 00:03:18 at calwaygolf.com slash epic. All right, the rib, I said the rib is back. I said the King has returned. TC already is in my ass on Twitter about that. I just, I'm not putting that, that much stock into it. It was poultry leaderboard other than, you know, I like honest Abe. I like hobbling a lot. You mentioned it today. I, I like Gary Whittling a lot off the course. I can't stand watching him play golf. It's not joyous to watch him play golf. I don't know why that is. It's all canonical. Yeah, I don't know why that is.
Starting point is 00:03:47 We can talk about that. But Rory, it just feels like that course is just so prime for him. I mean, he's blowing it over every dog leg. I feel like the Greens were fast all week where everybody was hitting defensive pots and the ball was kind of limp into the hole. I was disappointed with Keith Mitchell today. You know, Rory hit some great shots on the stretch, really impressed with his shot on 17. Like I typically like when a week is like a race to minus 10 versus minus 20 or minus 22
Starting point is 00:04:20 or something like that. But for whatever reason at Quail Hollow, it just never really, I don't know, it just feels like it was just Taylor made for Rory and that's all there is to it. And nobody mounted a charge. Yeah, I think it's significant that he's back in the winter circle, right? Even if the course is Taylor made to him,
Starting point is 00:04:40 there's a lot of courses on the PGA Tour, they're Taylor made to him and he doesn't win. So to see him go out and win, now was he the benefit of one of the great draws of all time on the PGA Tour or in recent years on the PGA Tour, yes. He was, but you know, I mean, well, all right. So Randy, a lot of some positive rub of the green,
Starting point is 00:04:56 which he could use a balancer to in that regard. Randy, I still, I guess you gotta re-explain this bit for like the 85th time, because I got a bunch of messages on Twitter saying oh You really regret calling them dead now Randy? What's up now? He won a tour of that, you know That you know say do it in a major I'm I'm good on especially quail hollow trying I think you neutered your take a little bit
Starting point is 00:05:20 I was expecting you to bring a little bit of fire that I could get behind. But even I neutered my take. It was, I, that needed his win. I was, I was not impressed. Not impressed at all. It's just, yeah, whatever. It doesn't do anything for me. I, I will say though, in all seriousness, it's nice to have a win, but until he does something in a major, doesn't mean a whole lot for me long term. I just don't feel like that course was asking him that many questions. He can cheat a lot on a lot of the questions, right?
Starting point is 00:05:51 Harry knows what the answer, he knows what the questions, the questions are in the study guide, right? And he studied pretty hard for it. There's a couple, you gotta hit a, you know, you start to hit the golf shots, right? But in 72nd hole and then yesterday, he made a little bit of a mess yesterday, but that's,
Starting point is 00:06:06 you know, it just seems like he's playing a radically different course than say Abraham answer. Yeah. Out there. Yeah, and then we can talk some, some coil hollow. But so the thing with Rory that's been for, you know, the past several years has been really good golf everywhere in the world except for majors really. And to a certain extent, like at least right before the pandemic, like really good golf, but why aren't you winning? Like this is crazy good results. Why aren't you winning?
Starting point is 00:06:29 But that went away. That has been gone for a couple of months now. He's felt a 15th in the world. Wasn't really even playing good golf anymore. So in that regard, whether he won or lost this week, the fact that he's back to playing good golf is the number one sign, the big takeaway, right? I don't think you have to take too much from him winning.
Starting point is 00:06:46 I mean, he's expected to win some of these things, but to me, it's just like, all right, now we're back to playing really good golf. Was it perfect? Was it like, Rory flexing on people and Rory out in the wide open and running and dunking on people? No, it wasn't. But that almost makes me a little bit, you know, more cautiously optimistic about things going forward.
Starting point is 00:07:04 I want to see invalidated two weeks. I mean, winning a couple weeks right before you're returning to a major site that you won by eight shots. Like, yeah, he knows the questions are coming and the expectations probably just changed for that week, but I don't know, did it change in your range? Is it change your opinion going into a QF for Rory? Um, you know, I, he was going to be a threat to win.
Starting point is 00:07:25 He's still a threat to win. No, it doesn't change it that much for me. I mean, I think we got to, we got to go back to it. Hovelin said early in the week, Colin, Colin, a driving range golf out there at Quail Hollow. And what, what guy more typifies driving range golf, uh, than, than Rory? I, that's, I don't know. And kind of tried to gag on 18.
Starting point is 00:07:49 We'll talk about 18, but going back, we got this question from Philip Lucity, he said, how impressive is it that Rib disappeared for three weeks and came back exclusively hitting cuts and contends immediately? He doesn't always get it done, but that is insane. And I did find it very interesting that he's saying he's committing to hitting only cuts
Starting point is 00:08:05 off the tee, which sounds crazy. And there were a couple shots out there where I was like, yeah, man, draw with driver would look really, really good right here. But there's also something to like Dustin Johnson saying, how many draw, when somebody asked him, I forget where this was, you know, how many drivers, how many draws that you hit with driver last year and he's just like zero. I hit no draws with driver. That's where I don't understand why he pulled three wood off 18T.
Starting point is 00:08:26 I think he said, you know, when he needs to draw one, he's gonna pull three wood, right? And a lot of guys like would rather move a ball towards a hazard than aim at it and move it away from it. So that I'm sure that's what he's thinking. And then he just, he still has that left, left of left miss there on 18, which that was, that was jarring there on 18.
Starting point is 00:08:45 I was impressed, I thought it was good decision-making to do what he did though, you know, dropping it. It must have been a really bad, worst lie than it looked on TV though, because I thought he could hit a 60 degree out into the fairway at least. It looked so awkward from like how much, how side hill it was.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Yeah. But yeah, I don't know. It's just like, I was in a hotel actually, Randy, when we're out in California, we're in sitting the hotel and they had the PGA championship from Valhalla replaying. And I just I couldn't I couldn't take my eyes off of it. Like Rory just being an absolute killer.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Alpha. And and yeah, like no regard for anybody else on the course. Playing literally playing through bouncing out of his shoes, like, you know, like that walk. That's why I get hit in that nasty draw and all that and pouring in putts, like, you know, just not- Playing golf. Not drip speed, like, playing aggressive golf. And I was thinking, God, like, that was the last time
Starting point is 00:09:40 I remember Rory being, being Rory. Is this, is this Pete the Cat, Pete Cowan? I mean, are these immediate dividends from the new Swing Coach for Rory? Has the link to buy in on that? Has to be. They showed that CBS is a great graphic where it shows the different colors of the club going back
Starting point is 00:10:00 and almost like their version of Swing Tracer, but I don't forget what they call it. But it's like a red line going back and then green and the down swing, they did a side by side of it, which was awesome. The bad part was Fao Doe was explaining the differences and it made zero sense to me, but the club, so I can't explain what the difference is.
Starting point is 00:10:16 It looked a lot better than that. It looked different. I don't even know if better was the right, but he, you know, look at the knee, look at the foot here. I'm like, I don't know what I'm looking at here, man. And so, but it was, it was kind of jarring to see the difference in the swing.
Starting point is 00:10:27 It looked a little more vertical, which I guess would support a cut a little bit. But gosh, yeah, I mean, as long as he doesn't have a two-way miss off the tee, as far as he's gonna hit it. And if he knows, if he plays almost like Tiger Peak Tiger Golf, where you just kind of miss it in the right rough all the time, like yeah, he's probably gonna contend
Starting point is 00:10:44 at a lot, a lot of golf tournaments. So, in that regard, I'm in Brendan Kelly 33 asked any connection between the return of spectators and the return to form of Rory. I mean, he talked about it afterwards. That was probably the most attended event that we've seen so far. I mean, that can't be a coincidence, I wouldn't say. I would definitely think. No, I mean, he used to wise.
Starting point is 00:11:02 He was bouncing around. Yeah, he credited a little bit in the postgame too, so I take him as word. It seemed to help him for sure in the perspective was off the charts walking off to see on Mother's Day with his wife there and his baby daughter that was just perspective intensifying right in front of our eyes. And the griplet. Yes. Any story to be told with the stats? Or, uh, not as dominant off the draw. Not as dominant off the tee this week that you might think he was 18th and strokes gained off the tee which kind of surprising.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Intent and strokes gained approach to green. His, I will say his distance control from Friday on, at least everything that I saw was spectacular. I mean, he's still not stuffin' it in there with theges. And I think a lot of people are still waiting for that to happen. And if he wants to, you know, win one of these things that's going to be more of a birdie fest, he's going to have to do that. But third and strokes came putting this week was the big, the big difference, which I found was green's just to be borderline not fun to watch on the putting out that it was so defensive. And the greens were just so fast. And we can
Starting point is 00:12:04 talk some coil hollow here. He was buoyed by facts and calling them one of the 10 best putters. Which is certainly a take to our friend, by our friend Brad, but yeah, we can maybe talk about that. But I wouldn't say he's one of the 10 best putters of all time, but you know, Rory Ken, he'd up with the putter, but Randy,
Starting point is 00:12:20 where are you out of coil hollow? Kind of like, for whatever reason, it gives me Mirafield Village light. Just feels, I don't know, it seems a bit, just plastic. I don't know, there's not a ton of soul there. Whenever I watch Quail Hollow, I just can't, there's not.
Starting point is 00:12:41 It feels like there's not much juice for me. It feels like if Quail, or if your feel village and congressional had a baby. Hmm. I like that. It's just crazy because it's like, those are the Rory courses, right? Yeah. It's just so tailor made for him.
Starting point is 00:12:57 It feels, I gotta be careful that we don't talk out of, that I'm not talking out of both sides of my mouth in terms of wanting challenge for tour players. It just kind of seems like the not fun version of challenge. Like it doesn't seem that entertaining to watch, dude, it's like, distance be this much of a prerequisite and you know, the guys that don't bomb it, you know, are not eliminated but like just slowly die off as the week goes along. That doesn't seem like it rewards kind of one-plank style.
Starting point is 00:13:24 It's one of the most bomber friendly places on tour. It's just, especially what they did, all the changes they made for the PGA, they linked in so many holes and I know parts are relevant, but it's just, it's kind of boring to watch, you know, dog legish sort of long 500 yard par four with ruffle on both sides and kind of some haphazard fairway bunkers. It just, it just doesn't really do it for me. I struggle to really explain why I'm kind of with you, they're really handy, but it just does not do it for me.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Now I was up in the charlotte this week and talked to a bunch of people about it and like very evident, talking to eight to 10 people at the wedding I was at that, that like they're all in love with the place, love walking around it, it's green, it's beautiful, awesome place to attend, a tournament, I'm well supported., awesome place to attend a tournament.
Starting point is 00:14:05 I'm well supported. I'm sympathetic to all of that. But like if we're, I don't know, a nerd like myself, I think I can put you guys in this bucket too, it just like doesn't do a lot for me. I'm not gonna tell you, if you like Quail, I'm not gonna tell you you're wrong. Like that's kind of very much,
Starting point is 00:14:19 it's, I don't feel passionately about it, not being a great golf course for tournaments, but I just, doesn't really do a lot for me. It's the Fossus Stadium course. It is the most, right? It's extremely fuzzy. It's all, you know, and it's, I mean, I don't want to dump on the city of Charlotte
Starting point is 00:14:34 because, you know, it's the best venue in Charlotte. Sure. And it's been very well supported since it came on in the early 2000s. Remember when David Thoms made a plot to win it? So one by four, that was awesome. You know, and then yeah, Randy, he showed up to the tournament,
Starting point is 00:14:49 and they'll sign him for a checking account, right? Exactly, a couple, maybe. Sally, I think you described my feelings perfectly where like it looks good, I want to like it. And if you like it, that's awesome. There's just something missing and I don't really know what it is. That was well said. Presidents come.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Really? Like, yeah. What a following Royal Melbourne. We're going to go do this at Quail Hollow. I went to the beach with Maddie today and he was actually kind of positive on it. He was like, you know what? It's not, they won a couple weeks ago, and then they were originally gonna play Quill Hall.
Starting point is 00:15:28 And Mark was like, not like we're good. But he said, it's actually, he thinks it's gonna, not go against the international team at least. It certainly doesn't favor them, but he said they're gonna dial those greens up, and you could probably grow the rough up a little bit like I was It's so impressed with Abe answer. Yeah, I mean there's there's no reason he should be contending on this golf course Abe hits it like way better than and I always just assumed he was just great putter and got that's how he
Starting point is 00:15:57 Contented but he's sure with his iron. He's just like an okay putter and I should really great ball striker And actually really good off the T's a the strokes can out the T this week. But where I'm at with that's kind of like, all right, we have, we go to these golf courses for PGA tour events for a lot of reasons, but a lot of them being 156 guys can get through this field. A 72 whole stroke play event at this venue is why we're going here for a 12, 12 V 12 match play event that's made for TV. Like we, we can get creative on where we go with that. I would like to think, I mean, Liberty Nationals,
Starting point is 00:16:29 not where I'm going with that, but like. Just comes down to hospitality, right? I know, but still, like, Mirfield Village, Liberty National Quail Hollow in the last three American venues. And they're gonna reroute it. So I get what, like 12, 13. The Green Mile, like moves up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Yeah, and then, you know, it's, but it's just, yeah, I'm with you. It doesn't do a lot for me. And by all accounts, it doesn't sound like they're doing great as far as selling hospitality and corporate tickets and sponsorships in and around Charlotte, you know. So, but yeah, I mean, I, not, President's Cup, you think about it like, like, go out to the, go out to the West Coast somewhere.
Starting point is 00:17:05 You had something good going on. You had the Melbourne momentum. I mean, I know they've decided on these venues a long time ago. I know there's some Johnny Morris, not Johnny Morris, but Johnny Harris is the guy, right? And some stuff that was going on, on moving some events,
Starting point is 00:17:18 and he basically kind of wheezled his way into a President's Cup or like kind of, he saved the Greensboro event. In fact, you know, like, five to ten years ago. That sounds right. Yeah, and got it basically got a President's cup or like kind of, well he saved the Greensboro event. In fact, you know what, like, five to six years ago. That sounds right. Yeah. And got it basically got a president's cup out of it. But a few more things from Charlotte
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Starting point is 00:18:51 That was good. Yeah, Keith Mitchell. It's good to see him back playing some good golf. I know we had some great feedback. He came on the pod in December, had a great interview with him about an hour and a half. He claimed it was too serious and he wants to come by and drink some beers and do it at the killhouse sometime. You look too serious on the course. He is it was too serious, and he once come by and drink some beers and do it at the kill house sometime. You look too serious on the course.
Starting point is 00:19:06 He is very mentally in- Very wet. Very wet, too. They were coming in on the way, Dottie thought he'd like nervous with the waggles. That's what he does before every shot. So that's a lot. It's a lot of waggles.
Starting point is 00:19:19 I was struggling with the whole pre-round or the pre-shot routine a little bit. But yeah, I just, I don't know. I'd love to see him loosen up a little bit out there. You know, great week, Fran. I mean, as to, he came in, you know, there's a two-shot lead heading into Sunday. He had a tough-ish Sunday.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Really, he hit it fine today. He was 40, he gained strokes, T-degree, but kind of, he lost some strokes around the green today. Potted it pretty much neutral. Just, he did not play quite good enough on Sunday to win, but a solid, solid T3 finish. A lot of guys that were in that, you know, over a hundredth in the FedEx Cup, Keith Mitchell, Gary Woodland, Luke List, made some big plays.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Scott Piercy, Sadosheka Dyer, I don't think we've seen Sadosheka Dyer as one. That guy's put some crazy bad numbers to the tour. Harbor town. It's officially late early. I mean, I was kind of trying to put Woodlands FedEx Cup rank into perspective and I kind of struggled to get it out on Twitter today, but like, we've three months until the playoffs, but you know, that might seem like a long time, but like we are long ways into this season.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Yeah, it's tough to make any progress because there's so many points out there already. Right. So, but yeah, he moved from like 149th to like 116th or something like that, which listen, I don't, I don't pretend to care that much about the actual Fed X Cup, but it's interesting to see who's in the actual top 125 and some big names that aren't. I found that one. This could be like the death panel here where, you know, a lot of got like certain guys falling outside of even that top 150, top 175, not getting into the corn fairy finals even.
Starting point is 00:20:49 It's top 200 get into that right. Or 70. Is it not? A lot of us. You're right. It's yeah. It's 126 to 200. 200.
Starting point is 00:20:58 But which is ridiculous. Victor Hoblin again, as we question from pilot AMP, Morakawa has the better resume at the moment, but it's Hoblin, the better player, Randy. Oh gosh, better. I don't know. I'm not qualified to answer that. He doesn't strike me as better, maybe on the same footing as Morakawa, but it would hard to be,
Starting point is 00:21:19 to just say he's better right now, in my opinion. There's a perfect question for you, because Morakawa's resume is better, and you love resumes, and like, Hovelin's stroke scheme is decidedly better than Morakawa. Like, he's more consistent week to week than Morakawa's. Yet, you would rather have Morakawa's resume.
Starting point is 00:21:36 So, I find that interesting. Well, maybe Morakawa just, you know, finds a way to win, a little bit better than Young Victor right now. He needs a big win, and some would say that. He's got a couple wins. So, statistic, yeah, it's an interesting discussion. So, statistically, I don't have all the stroke gain stuff in front of me right now.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Is Victor that much better than MaraCawa? 2021 DataGolf Stroke's gain plus 1.85 for Hovland, which is really, really freaking good. And MaraCawa is plus 1.85 for Hovland, which is really, really freaking good. And Morakawa is plus 1.25, a bit of a decline from last year from Morakawa from plus 1.56 to plus 1.25. Imagine if you isolated their top three performances, each of them, Morakawa's top end is probably, he's got that extra gear.
Starting point is 00:22:23 It seems like he went away and hot and hit at concession. I mean, he's put that extra gear. It seems like he went away and hid at concession. I mean, he's put some really, really, really great weeks together. But it seems like Hovelin's more week to week to week to week. Well, Hovelin's like third or fourth on the money list for this year, which Fred X Cup is a little out of head. Little out of head. But yeah, I'm ready for him to win something big time. Like on, he's won a couple, you know, one poor week open open you want to bring you to like those those were not like feature weekend on TV
Starting point is 00:22:49 So people like I feel like golf fans have not seen him succeed at the very top and it's it kind of feels like it's about that time I just stumbled into like the 200 neighborhood in the FedEx cup 215 David David 216 David Lingworth, 217 Martin trainer, 218 Tiger Woods, 219 Mike Weir. That's a hitter's row right there. 222 Hunter Mayhem. Mayhem made the cut this week.
Starting point is 00:23:17 That was his first made cut in a while. I did, I've meant to get squeeze that in there somewhere that we're a shout out for him for that. I mean, we had a great podcast with him about a couple of months ago, just detailing a lot of stuff from his career and just struggles and all that stuff. It's amazing to me that stuff like that that's happened, a hundred doesn't happen to more people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Like how hard it is to maintain year after year after year after year of success. I mean, he had not made a cut since Maya Coba, which was back in 2020, was his first made cut of the year. He tied for 54th. So that T 54 took him from 1833 in the world to 1291. Like that's how far he'd fallen. So what else from this past week?
Starting point is 00:23:59 Phil, how about your boy Phil? Students of first round 64, I can't believe that didn't last all the way to the weekend. Oh, God, he looked so good too. He looked legitimately. It was like, roll the clock back 20 years. It looked like he had that wager going against Damon. And that was what kind of kept him in it.
Starting point is 00:24:18 And then round two, he looked just rudderless. Yeah, I don't know if he just got bored or, you know, expose a little bit. It was, it was a rudderless. Yeah, I don't know if he just got bored or, you know, exposed a little bit. It was, it was a tough finish, but yeah, the first round was awesome. Probably just drank too much coffee. Round two. Is Phil going to do a four round event again? Like, is he going to play for four straight rounds?
Starting point is 00:24:40 Yeah, are they going to be playing for four rounds in Saudi Arabia? Well, I mean, I'm saying the champion store events, he seems to have no problem with the little three round setups, but four rounds on the PJ tour. He just does not seem to be able to, I mean, I get it. He's in his 50s at this point, but I don't know. I'm waiting for something somewhat competitive out of Phil. Just doesn't seem like he can stay focused for that long anymore. That's what it seems like to me, which is crazy. I, you know, is just doesn't get bored, or is it just not that exciting? I mean, it feels really stupid to even say that, but I see the same thing, Sally, where it's like,
Starting point is 00:25:14 kind of, it just looks like he's just kind of needs to find ways to entertain himself, but I don't know if that's actually it or not. How about Bryson? That flies home on Friday afternoon, after what he built, he, you know, he, I think he was in the, in the 90s when he finished his round, then the crazy win picked up Friday afternoon
Starting point is 00:25:33 by a time he landed, he'd figure out he made the cut, got to work out and turns around, comes home and finishes in the top 10. Made his money back. Then then some, you know. Punky Perkins asks, what's the longest flight you'd make if you were in Bryson's Friday night situation?
Starting point is 00:25:47 He says, I think four hours is the cut off. What is it from Dallas to Charlotte, probably two and a half? Probably about that, yeah. I think this is all in a elaborate scheme by Bryson just to flex that he flies private whenever he wants. I don't think it's a great look for, like, you know, like net jets, you know, it's like, yeah, it was so expensive. I don't know if that's a great thing for him.
Starting point is 00:26:11 I would have, my hats off would have been to Bryson for, if you would have flown American. Because that's really the only other way to get from DFW to Charlotte. Yeah. How does that happen? Did they just not anticipate the weather or just back for the next night? I mean, he was like 90th, 20th. Yeah, I mean, I could see it happening.
Starting point is 00:26:35 They'd honestly, I'm surprised stuff like this doesn't happen more often. Like, I would have been less, it was almost surprising me that he went back. Like, if you make the cut on the number, I would have thought that, you know, I flew home, like whatever, I'm gonna miss this week. I'm gonna rest up instead. My left hamstring was hurting me. Yeah, I'm surprised. He jumped to flight like 245 or whatever it was,
Starting point is 00:26:55 came back out, doubled 18 to shoot 68 on Saturday, which is pretty, I guess people on Instagram really actually thought he flew home to get a workout in, because he posted that on Instagram Come on people. We're gonna need you to need you to audit the stuff. It was one of the more extreme circumstances of You know train wrecks at the end of right the second round. Yeah, to move the cut That helped make you know make the cut what it was McQueen golf says will Bryson be carbon neutral by 2040? You worried about his footprint, Randy? Yeah, it's horrendous. It reminds me of the scene from a succession when the uncle,
Starting point is 00:27:33 uncle, you and is saying how Roy is worse than Hitler in large part due to his carbon footprint. Anyway, one of the many Bryson stories that I figured out, I finally figured out a way to shoehorn this in there with the net jets. I've heard this one a couple years ago. I honestly don't remember who the player was. Then we've heard like 15 stories that are somewhat similar to this about Bryson,
Starting point is 00:27:57 but Bryson knew there was some golfer that he knew growing up, some amateur golfer that he, you know, new in college, new in an amateur level, like somewhat intimately, like, somewhat decent friends, saw each other in a lot of tournaments, you know, we talked to each other, blah, blah, blah, and then we got out to tour together, like, on tour,
Starting point is 00:28:13 like, Bryson just, like, started not talking to him at all, just, like, awkwardly walking right past him, and a mutual friend of theirs was kind of like, hey, you know, like, why don't you, like, talk to, say anything to So-and-so anymore. And Bryson just looked like astonished, like, oh, I mean, like, yeah, I was, I was friends of like, hey, you know, like, why don't you like talk to say anything to so and so anymore. And Bryson just looked like astonished like, oh, I mean, yeah, I was, I was friends with him, but I mean, I was before I had a net chance account. And that thing, that line is stuck with me forever. Like, oh, yeah, that was before I had a net chance account. I honestly don't remember who the
Starting point is 00:28:37 player was. I'm sure whoever told that story said, yeah, I shouldn't tell it on the podcast, but since we're not naming the player, I'll think you're really nice. Just straight up. That's Bryson and a nutshell. That's Bryson. Just straight up, right. Right, right. That's Bryson and a nutshell. That's Bryson, like, even if it's not the most audited story, there's like 20 of those where there's smoke, there's fire. Like pulling up, hey, like look at my bank account. Yes, those kind of things.
Starting point is 00:28:57 There's a lot of those Bryson stories. Is that pretty good on quail? Anything else you guys want to add from the Wells Fargo? No, I think that's it on quail. Get Dallas this week. We got Dallas this week. We got some content coming out around Dallas new course. Excited to see that one. It's going to be a pretty low score in a fair rate. I get the sense that if the wind doesn't blow, it's like a 26-hundred event. That's from what I've gathered and it doesn't look like it's going to.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Look at the little weather early in the week, but it looks like it's going to clear-hundred event. That's from what I've gathered. And it doesn't look like it's going to. It's a little weather early in the week, but it looks like it's going to clear up a little bit. This has been a, I think, a corn fairy-tour event, or a corn fairy-tour venue in the past. They've had one of the rounds of Q-school there in the past. Like, I'm sure a lot of guys have played this course before. I'm sure the Dallas guys definitely have, but yeah, I'm not familiar with it,
Starting point is 00:29:42 but excited to see a new course in the PGA Tour. You know, reflecting a little bit on Trinity Forest, and we're not going to see Trinity Forest this year at the AT&T, it was kind of like, you know what, that just felt like a marriage that they were staying together for the kids. It just didn't work. As much as we wanted it to work, there's a lot of reasons why that tournament needed to move, and I've come to terms with it, I think. I wanted to see a course like that succeed on the PGA Tour, hope that other tournaments took notice and I just wasn't going to have.
Starting point is 00:30:08 It was like, you know, they got drunk one night, got pregnant, and then... Don't think it worked it out. There's just too many differences. Yeah, dad's traveling all the time. It's just like the way that the tour set up that course just did not work at all and it totally defeated the purpose that the tour set up that course just did not work at all. And it totally defeated the purpose of going there. Exactly. Then they got screwed on weather. Weather was tough.
Starting point is 00:30:31 There's no shade on that course. It was either too hot or you know, just too many variables. Couldn't raise money for it. So the tournament's back on the north side of town. And I'm excited to see it. I'm excited to see the new air of AT&T. But on to the Walker Cup at Seminole, a literal shit show this week. Gastro and Testinole issues ravaged both teams.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Little uncomfortable watching a couple guys today that I was just wondering if they were going to shit their pants. You know, it was weird looking at the leaderboard and being like, oh yeah, it looks like the US is favored here, but like trying to handicap it based on like, okay, but that guy's been shitting his brains out for the last couple of days. Like, sounded like, like, next level to, it wasn't food, okay, but that guy's been shitting his brains out for the last couple of days. Like sounded like, like next level to, it wasn't food poisoning or something like that. We're talking about a mebo level shit here, Randy.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Like, TC's got his phone out, which I believe is to share some details from what he heard. He tweeted it all over. So, yeah, this was just, just, you know, came into the DMs, came for real, my sources, but this stomach bug is bad. A player on the US team shit his bed
Starting point is 00:31:28 and his hotel room floor. And a kid on the British team clogged his shower and toilet because it was coming out both sides. I'm sorry to laugh, but like, that's wild. It sucks. Like I asked, like some like Tyler's to Fachi state amateur to play in this event and like got sick this week, like that brutal,
Starting point is 00:31:46 really, really sucks. I wanna sound like, so what is this, like a neurovirus situation? Potentially, yeah, you know, maybe there's a, maybe it came in, you know. Have you guys ever had that? No. Oh my God, I had it five, six years ago.
Starting point is 00:32:04 It is the worst. It is absolutely the worst. I can attest to that. I remember, where'd you get it? I don't know, that's the thing. I was working, that was back when I was in Columbus working at the school. So I'm sure, you know, through the school,
Starting point is 00:32:19 I picked it up and yeah, for like three days, I remember one night where I was so, there's just one thing like fluid left that could come out anywhere. And it was the closest I've ever felt to like, do I need to check myself into a hospital? Like I know I'm like crazy dehydrated. But I just, you know, thankfully though,
Starting point is 00:32:40 it's that shorter duration. You're the brand man. I know, Randy. But it is longer than food poisoning. You know, usually food poisoning, once you... It's 24 hours. Get rid of it. Yeah, you're back to normal.
Starting point is 00:32:53 So I'm saying it was probably a neurovirus situation. I guess they had some crazy shit down in Southwest. Southeast Florida, the last few years too. Like there was, there's been some outbreaks, similar stuff. So I can't imagine going out and playing in 90 degree heat after that, like trying to replace the fluids in your body and, and, and, and it could beat and like that had to be miserable. Zinger said like, God, this is, this guy's played his backside.
Starting point is 00:33:16 All this way. I thought it was crazy. Hey, God, I must have been like IV central over there. I think I saw Strophachi had like a bandaid on his arm. I was like, that's gotta be from just pump it in full of IVs. The biggest upset of the week was Zinger just trying to pronounce some of these guys' names and me thinking they were wrong and they were actually right.
Starting point is 00:33:37 He actually got a couple of them right this week. Whole Castilla thing. That was mine blowing. Strophachi, I always thought it was Straffacci. Now they're saying Straffacci. I don't know. That's how they say it in the old world. In the old world.
Starting point is 00:33:51 You gotta do the hand motion if you say it that way. They did manage to work his grandfather into the coverage, which you can cash here. One to 100 tickets on the one. I will say, I thought the setup marvelous job by the USGA. They took it to the limit. Took it to the edge. It's match play.
Starting point is 00:34:10 It's true. It's not like it's that's different deal and stroke play. It's match play. And I was blown away at how many of those guys were trying to go down the left on 18. Well, the wind is off the left and they had nowhere else to like, yeah, to hook it if you wanted to hold something down the right, I think. It was just a look into all the reasons why
Starting point is 00:34:32 Quail Hollow's not that fun to watch. Seminole is that fun to watch. Like there's no rough. Like there's almost no rough on that golf course. And there's never like, you don't even notice it unless you go in there thinking like, hey, where's the rough? Like you don't even think about it
Starting point is 00:34:44 because there's a ton of places you don't want to hit it. The place is just defined by the contours and the sand and how that all runs into the fairway and how the fairways are sloped. You've got to curve the ball certain ways to hold the fairways and leave in the right spot around the means. I love somebody to say that angles don't matter. It's seminal. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Yeah, especially with the wind blowing a little bit and it playing that fast. It was really entertaining to watch. I, I love watching the, the walker cup. It's kind of hard to, it's one of those events that I love watching. I don't actually care about the result that much. Like I just, I, you know, it's cool to see the US win, but I don't feel passionate. Come down to, yeah, I just want to see some, it's like watching NCAA golf. It's just like, I don't care who wins.
Starting point is 00:35:20 I just want to see something, something exciting. But, uh, Boxel Mark is asking how long has Big Randy been cause playing as Amdr golf legend, Stuart Haggistead? Let me just say there are a few things that, you know, as a fellow, fellow slender man, I'm gonna have to talk to Stuart at our next meeting about one, I don't like his putting. I'm concerned about some possible anchoring.
Starting point is 00:35:42 I wanna make sure he's playing that. If I may say so, I've never seen somebody with that fulcrum style that has that much daylight in there. He's not anchoring it. I'm with you. It's not. It's not Ruby too sure, sorry.
Starting point is 00:35:57 He might be the one guy doing it like not in a scummy way, right? Yes, I'm okay. It doesn't look right. I still think that style of putting should be banned, but he's not angry into his chest, but continue. And then second, you know, we, the NBC trying to pump is full-time job status at the end was like, come on.
Starting point is 00:36:17 We don't need that. So, Randy, you got your, you went full-time, got your MBA. That's what he's doing right now. Yeah. And that's, I mean, I would say that all these kids playing college golf have a much more full schedule, right?
Starting point is 00:36:31 Yeah, it depends. What I assume he's in a second year of the MBA program, like the first year is when you're in the classroom in an MBA program. And then they want you to get a good internship. And then the second year, ideally, you get a job offer off your internship. And so yes, the second year is very light.
Starting point is 00:36:50 I would say though, the college golf programs are probably like more designed to have all the proper work around so that you know, take polio out of class and all that. He just, it doesn't sound like he has those conveniences. Like I know during the USAM last year, he had like a bunch of, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:03 stuff he couldn't get out of for school and had to like go do that right after rounds of golf and stuff like that. But he wanted to get his MBA. It sounds like it was a lot tougher than his actual job. Yeah. I think I think your issue is more of them than playing up like he's working 60 hour weeks and then hit and range balls at night and putting on a pitch.
Starting point is 00:37:19 I don't think I don't have it on, everyone I've ever talked to seems to suggest that that is not the case, although I don't know for sure myself, but that seems to very much not be the case. Yeah, I mean, you know, nothing against the guy, but it doesn't sound like it's a hard-knock life for Stu Hacks that way. That is what I think the point is.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Instagram and it's like, hey, I'm at the Madison Club this week, and I'm at my place in Newport Beach next week and PV the following week and seminal, you know, and it's like, all right, like, but let's not, let's call a spade a spade and not go overboard with the amateurism and the, you know, he's basically a professional amateur. That seems to definitely be the case. Accomplished. And that's cool that he's chosen to remain in amateur. I'm totally with you and that, that I don't begrudge him at all. I think that's cool that he's yeah chosen to remain an amateur. I'm totally with you and that that I don't begrudge him at all. I think that's cool if you can do it. I just don't need Dan Hicks, you know, making it sound like he's
Starting point is 00:38:12 taking a break from his 60 hour work weeks and you know, it's gonna get back Monday to an inbox for Yeah, or or as a mid-am like a like having kid like having two or three kids and all that. I would say I would say also like Hicks, Hicks called him one of the greatest amateurs of all time. That's a stretch Which I thought was a little bit a little bit much but a little bit What he wanted at us GA. He want to mid-am. He made the cut the best. Yes. Yeah, he's a very good Amateur. Yeah, totally accomplished and that's awesome. They're one of the best ever. But you know, never want to mid-AM. Bobby Jones never want to mid-AM. You know, you never want to mid-AM. Tiger Woods never want to mid-AM. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Makes you think a lot of the biggest days of golf have never want to mid-AM. Some great future venues for the Walker Cup. Old course and Cypress Point are coming up. I committed to Panther, Panther Mike's dad, Panther Chris. He said, hey, are you coming with me to San Andrews for 2023? I said, I will be there. So I'm verbally committed to San Andrews for the Walker Cup in 2023.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Career Amateur, Tron Carter will be making a trip, making the trip on the boat. The six week trip on the boat with like the no kidding. That would be sick. Lefty TC might earn a spot on that walker. No, I'll have to TCC's a tough scene right now. Going back to Haggistat, did he kind of hinted something in the post-rounder there?
Starting point is 00:39:36 He said he's re based on this past week. He's re thinking some of his future goals. I don't know if that meant I went one and two and don't know if I want to do this anymore or I want to match it the Walker Cup. I want to be a pro now. I really don't know which way he was going with that, but I don't know why this week would have decided anything for him. You know what? In the vein of all these, you know, like the Floyd Mayweather versus Logan
Starting point is 00:39:57 Paul, you know, fight all that. I'd like to see John Peterson versus Stuart Haggistad, you know, you know, reinstated AM versus a professional AM, battle royale, fight to the death. God, that would make you put it in prime time. Where would Haggistad fit in the world of professional dollars? He turned pro tomorrow. What would he be a corn fairy player? Would he be?
Starting point is 00:40:24 It's a great question. That's where I'm just like trying to wonder like how, how special of an amateur is he, right? If is he just some of the just never turned pro that is, look that kind of, as a PGA tour level, I don't know. I don't see. Is he big Randy? Could he win a tour of sausage in the world? No, that's a great question. I mean, it makes a shitload of birdies. Data golf has got him as the number fifth ranked amateur in the world. That's a, it's of all ages. So, I mean, that's extremely good, obviously.
Starting point is 00:40:55 I mean, that's tough, it's tough competing with 21 year olds that are dedicated and have like upward trajectory style looking at that. PJ Tworkin. That's the other thing I was going to point out is, you know, he's like, what, five, six years older than everybody else, but if he's been an A.M. and nine, he keeps doing this. It's going to be days and confused.
Starting point is 00:41:15 You know, he's going to like a reverse days and confuse. I guess he's going to keep getting older and everybody else is going to say the same age. You know, like who's he? I would assume he probably hangs out more with the captains than his fellow teammates, right? Yeah, that's gotta be a weird little dynamic. Who, talking about everybody else, anybody else you were very impressed with?
Starting point is 00:41:37 I didn't get to watch a lot of it till today, honestly, I was traveling some this weekend. Castileo is by all accounts, you know, from the University of Florida, I got to see him when he was down here and Jack's for an amateur tournament earlier this year and he fits the bill. But I'm not like, I'm not, I'm not extremely good at looking at the college kids and being like, oh, that's the star right there. That's not my, I'd be out of my skis with that one. You?
Starting point is 00:41:57 Uh, long impressed me today. I thought he showed some moxie. Barkley Brown was too light full. You like to. Yeah. Big fan. He picked a fan today. He just got some got some pizzazz and some gumption about him, you know. Yeah, he seems to have some like innocence, like goofiness. I was a big fan. Uh, I like, I like that John Pock from, uh, he's from Fort Estate, right? Um, he's got some got some swag to him. Or as Zinger says, John Pack or Pock.
Starting point is 00:42:27 He said that at one point. He was unsure enough. At least he made it. He was unsure. It's a guy. It's John Pack or Pock. I do want to, I thought the US outfits were not good. And the shoes especially, shoes were a tough scene.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Those blue shoes. Those red pants just didn't do it for me. It's a I think it's a look ahead to the to the Nantucket mid-and this year. Yeah. Yeah. It's out on the island. You guys ready to talk a little super golf league or premier golf league or whatever the hell it's called now. This is a bone saw golf. A lot to catch up on on this front uh in this past week. Yeah. Yeah, gosh, where do we start with this? Apparently, there's two different leagues. That is news to me as of this week.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Yeah, I did not know there was a premiere golf league and a super golf league. I think we knew that this was all bubbling beneath the surface, but I don't think we ever differentiated that, or needed to differentiate that there were multiple where I want to be very clear. Like I thought the PGL concept with going all over the world and you know 40 to 50 players and relegation and 14 teams for person teams and all the team stuff sounded delightful.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Like this super golf league sounds like the worst fucking thing I've ever heard. Take it take it all the way. Take it all the way. Can you quickly summarize it for those that, so like myself that read the article, but may have forgotten. This is from Alan Shipnick at the Fire Pit Collective. The summary is one of the best I heard, but the PGL is still actively trying to create
Starting point is 00:43:55 a viable competitor to the PGA tour and European tours, but is not staked by Saudi money as is widely believed. Says a PGL investor, they are not our partners, they are now our competitors. After the idea of the PGL was born in 2019, there were advanced discussions with Gulf Saudi to underwrite the All Star New Tour. The deal was never consummated,
Starting point is 00:44:18 and now Saudi Arabia is making its own play with the super Gulf League. Again, says the PGL investor, they 100% stole our idea. Which is totally true. Which is sick. Yeah, like they 100% stole it and then watered it down. And then like it sounds like it would be more events in Saudi Arabia, shout out to the Kadea.
Starting point is 00:44:39 It just sounds like all the worst elements of this and the super name which right after all that English Premier League and and and silly silly money with this like more than I had imagined with the Premier Golf League. We're talking like 30 to 50 million dollars. I saw a hundred million dollars floated out there for Phil Mickelson of some way. I don't know if that includes the team ownership or whatever it is. Phil has a quote he says, I'm 50.
Starting point is 00:45:01 This isn't really going to affect me. My career is wanting down. But if I'm a golf fan, which I am, it would be interesting to see the top players play and compete against each other in additional 15 times a year. Golf is the only major sport where the players have control of their schedule and the sponsors and television are not able to know exactly what it is they're buying. Which I think is what we kind of agreed with what was going to be interesting about the premier golf league, right?
Starting point is 00:45:21 It's like, we know these 20 weeks, it is all the top players getting together for a big tournament. That's a member. I remember walking away from the players championship being like, dude, that was sweet because they were all there. Like, I didn't have to worry about who was there. Like, you know, Rory won this week. Yeah, Dustin wasn't really there.
Starting point is 00:45:38 So what does that mean? Like, that was going to be a cool thing of like, hey, everyone's going to be there on these days. Aimen Lynch had a column today in golf week about, you know, it was a little bit, he's taken kind of the kind of pro PGA tour side of things, but it was, it was very much talking about how that, how the tour needs to use the WGC's as a counterweight to all these threats. Basically, say, Hey, here's, here's how to take care of the best players in the world. Like for the HSBC or the FedEx St. Jude or basically all of them except for the Dell match play, which seems to kind of serve its purpose. They need to make them
Starting point is 00:46:15 strictly top 45 or top 50 in the world increase the hell out of the purses and just incentivize the hell out of those and you know, kind of cut off those. Yeah, I still don't think that cuts off like what Saudi can offer, which is like, hey, and just incentivize the hell out of those and kind of cut off those. Yeah, I still don't think that cuts off like what Saudi can offer, which is like, hey, here's 30 million, like 30 million to come play here. You know what I mean? I think the Saudi thing though is like,
Starting point is 00:46:35 all right, that's 30 million and how many of those tournaments are in the Middle East? 12 time zones away from where you are. And like I feel like there's too many compromises with the Saudi one, whereas I still come back to the PGL one, and I'm curious to know where they're at, and how their plans have evolved or stayed the same,
Starting point is 00:46:53 because that sounded like a very viable... Intempting thing. Yeah, where it was going to be truly a global golf tour, and go to certain parts of the year, and certain parts of the world, and certain parts of the year and certain parts of the world and certain parts of the year. And it fit into the existing ecosystem much than what the proposed supergolf league would, which I think is good as a fan and good for most all parties, PJ two or brass, maybe accepting.
Starting point is 00:47:25 And then Amin's calling to saying, like there's, you know, it was this talking on background to a different people that know Jay Monahan personally and they were saying there's golf Jay and there's hockey Jay. You don't want hockey Jay to come out, which I guess is like. Checking people up against the boards.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Yeah, being like a, you being like an enforcer or something. But go on with this company line of, hey, you're not going to be able to ever play the PGA tour again. We're going to remove you, you know, ASAP and all that. And like, that's where you get into the anti-trust and anti-competitive practices stuff. Which I wonder like how real that, like, I don't know, like the tour must be extremely confident
Starting point is 00:48:03 that that will hold up in court, right? And I don't know the law well enough to be like, you know, you can or can't do that as a as a sports league or whatnot I've heard you know some people that say that yeah, you can't do that But also like if I if you can't do that I wouldn't if I'm Jay Monhand I certainly wouldn't be going around saying the things I'm saying so they must know Something in that regard or or it's just a regard. Or it's just a brave front. And then I would think that the PGL and the Super Golf they would have kind of whittled away
Starting point is 00:48:31 if that was the case. That all right, you know what, this is gonna hold up in court and we're kind of SOL here. Yeah, and then you get the world rankings and all that. I don't know, it's gonna to be an interesting time for him. But USGA, RNA and PGA America all spoke out in support of the tour, but they did not make the, they didn't make the statements of the tour made like they did not say, Hey, you can't come play our events.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Have you joined one of these leagues? Yeah. PGA of America had a stronger statement. Then, but then also like it was a big takeaway going back to your point. It was like it, it did make the $40 million pip thing seem halter. Right. That's what I'm like, yeah, when I've read the $40 million dollar pip thing,
Starting point is 00:49:13 I remember kind of thinking like, yeah, this could be, you know, the tour obviously has their shit together and like this could be the end of PGO or whatever. And then it's like, oh no, like we're given, maybe these players more than that individually to come do. As a whole, you know, that's 40 for divided by 10 guys. And this could be like more than that per person. It's kind of like, oh, yeah, that is kind of seem kind of minuscule.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Yeah. So I think, you know, let's see where the other shoe drops, but I think at some point, like, I'm keen to see if the PGL is totally saudi free and you know and fun like we thought it might be. Yeah and it sounds like they bought the Saudi they kind of kind of took the Saudis out of it pretty early on like after that initial backlash and you know some I'm really keen to see how that's evolved as this next shoe drops. I'm gonna steal some of DJ's take who's not here. We were talking about it some this week. And, you know, we've been as hardcore golf fans.
Starting point is 00:50:11 We've kind of, you know, internally been like said things along the lines of, hey, you got to get everyone. Like they need everyone if they're going to do it. It wouldn't make sense if it's just a mix of so and so and Justin Rose and Hendrix Tenzin, blah, blah, blah. He made a really great point of like, hey, like we've slowly gotten into Formula One, right? Like, what if there was 10 better drivers
Starting point is 00:50:29 than Daniel Riccardo out there, we just didn't know it? Like, like, would we care? I'd be like, no, I'm actually kind of invested in this guy. Like, I don't really care if somebody's actually a better driver than him. Like, I'm watching this guy every week. So this point was like, what if Harry Higgs is point eight shots worse than Patrick Cantlay
Starting point is 00:50:44 as per round? Like, and what if they got somebody like Harry Higgs and not made a what if Harry Higgs is point eight shots worse than Patrick Cantlay is per round? Like, and what if they got somebody like Harry Higgs and not made a league around Harry Higgs? But like he competed in something that's fun, right? And was a part of these teams and these things happen. Like you wouldn't, you watch the Walker Cup. You're not like, oh, these guys, this guy couldn't hang with Victor Hovlin, you know, you don't think that, right? You're watching them compete against each other.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Let's go back to the team stuff too. The team stuff sounds so cool and like, it sounds like a real sport kind of thing. Right, I mean, there's a reason why like every other sport except for almost tennis has like a team element. And going back, like it's not like these guys are playing a ton of events together on the PGA tour.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Like if they're still playing in the majors together, it's not like we're getting weekend, week out, row versus DJ, or, you know, Bryce and versus Ram. Like that's just not happening week in, week out. We're getting it eight, 10 times a year, which we'd get it then, with that, we'd get it with the guys that are on the tour
Starting point is 00:51:43 and then we'd get it like even supercharged at the majors. So. The only thing that like to your point about F1, and I think one of the things that excited me about the PGL most in some of the proposals we had read, at least if there is a mechanism to where new talent has a way into the league and you know and folks that maybe aren't playing well. As long as you can cycle in some new talent, I think that's what's important.
Starting point is 00:52:14 And yeah, you know, it's just really interesting where professional golf goes because, you know, the more you think about it, the vast majority of people, all they really care about are the majors, right? Like it's just such a interesting time to see where this all heads. So you might as well have some professional wrestling to it. Yeah, I mean, that's why the more I heard about the PGL, the more it peaked my interest was for that team component. And you know, give me something to care about that's not just like hey, we're in You know whale hollow this week who's gonna win the stroke play? Yeah, like it's Ricky's getting relegated three weeks
Starting point is 00:52:55 Like there'd be so many more story lines popping up But where I'm worried is now It was it was far fetched to get everyone to jump or whatever you needed, critical mass to jump now to PGL. Now that there's a third element to this with SGL and PGL, just the general vibe around it's going to get even stinkier and it's going to be even harder for this thing to get momentum now. There's two competing leagues.
Starting point is 00:53:19 It's not even one really tempting offer. It's like, we got two competing leagues. People aren't probably going to do their homework, what either one of them really is. And just get lumped into the city. Yeah, it's gonna be, it's, it's, I find it, I'm gonna find it funny. We're talking about like the Aramco Spanish Grand Prix. Whatever.
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Starting point is 00:54:27 It's helpful to look up and be like, hey, I've totally eliminated the left miss, and you pull it up and back. Actually, you know what? I hit six balls left of my target there, and that's not as eliminating the left miss as I would have thought. It's about the size of a rangefinder fits right on the outside of your bag.
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Starting point is 00:55:23 Yeah, I had a couple a couple things go left lately Which causes some balls to go further right. It's tough. We're working on it. We're working on it It's fun to fade it though. What else we got for this past week? P P P did an interview with a tell-all interview with golf digest Which I found it interesting. I raised from Max Adler a golf digest I did not find the headline on the tweet very interesting. I raised from Max Adler, a golf digest. I did not find the headline on the tweet very interesting. It was very much.
Starting point is 00:55:48 I think, and that's something that props the golf digest. I think over the last year or two, they've really stepped up their game and they're doing some substance of stuff, but yeah, they need to clean it up a bit on the headlines and the clickbait. Well, it's like the stuff is there, right? It's a good article.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Don't oversell it or don't. Yeah. Don't tease me with Patrick Reed's not who you thought he was. Somebody had a great reply to it. It was like, when somebody says Patrick Reed's not who you think he is, I'm like, oh, is he worse than I think he is? Go check it out. He's 10 times worse.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Yeah. It was hard to give, I gave the, you know, a shout out on Twitter. It was like, I think you should read it. People should read it. But at the same time, like, hey, it's kicked in bullshit. Like don't go in like thinking like this is gonna totally change your opinion on read.
Starting point is 00:56:30 However, it's interesting. It's interesting to see how he answers the questions. It's bullshit. Yes, that's kind of what I was meaning to say with it. It was just like, you know, very much like you can smell it from a mile away. Some of the people, he shouts out as being friends
Starting point is 00:56:45 are like what he said, Henry Stenson or something, was his friend in the past. And he said, Bubba's one of his friends and Bubba had just said at the match play like, wait, are we friends? I didn't know we were friends.
Starting point is 00:56:54 So that's how you know he's just spewing shit because he says things you just know, you know, no or not true. But. I mean, I got the distinct impression like, you might be friend to you, but like I feel like Webb might be doing mission work. What?
Starting point is 00:57:08 What was the baby sitter? Yeah, exactly. So, that was an interesting little wrinkle earlier on in the week of reading that. It's also, I don't know, it's a cover story. Like, it's not going to be, it's not the hardest hitting interview ever and it's not a tell-all because it's somewhat of a fluff piece yet, you know, it's not like golf. I just fell all over themselves and totally sold out to him. So I at least appreciated that, you know, there's some awkward questions that I'd like to ask him and pin him down on answers that, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:36 he kind of weaseled his way out of, but it's interesting. What else? Cornfrey, some cornfrey torneus as first broken bio of very own TC. Of course, truly. Just out here pounding the pavement. Tor news as first broken buyer of very own TC. First truly just out here pounding the pavement. No, great news. I think this is a long time coming. It was supposed to be, supposed to be last year. And then obviously COVID had other plans.
Starting point is 00:57:53 But minimum purse on the corn fairy tour will increase by $150,000 from 600K to 750K. And then another 250K in 2023 to a million dollars. So that'll be the lowest purse on the corn fairy tour for the season. The regular season finale purse will increase 100K in 2022 and then another 400K in 23. And then in 23, purses for all three finals events will increase by 500K up to 1.5 million.
Starting point is 00:58:21 So I think it's one of those things where the 25 guys that get their cards through the regular season, like they're doing fine financially, but it's the guys that if you had a relatively successful season, you didn't get your tour card, but you're 50th on the money list.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Like, I think it's, it's, it makes a difference. It behooves the corn fairy tour and the PGA tour to invest in this to make that like a living wage or like a living wage or like a liv- you know make make it so these guys aren't scraping Nichols together because because it's like you're you're playing on arguably like the second or third best tour in the world, you know. Right. And it's not just for the players either. It's like for caddies. Like that that trickles
Starting point is 00:59:00 down to caddies. It trickles down to coaches. It trickles down to trainers. It's it's it's just funding the world of golf. And it trickles down to like, it trickles down to trainers, it's just funding the world of golf. Well, and it trickles down to like, these guys, when they get to the tour, they're better prepared because they've, you know, like, they didn't have to drive 16 hours from one of them to another event. Like, they truly were able to prepare for the PGA tour versus completely grinding. And, you know, people can say, well, that's what, you know, that's what the Cornfairy tour or Mini-Tour golf is all about. versus completely grinding. And people can say, well, that's what the Corn Fairy Tour
Starting point is 00:59:25 or Mini Tour Golf is all about. And at some point, it's like, yeah, that's what Mini Tour Golf is all about, but this is one of the best tours in the world. And it's not like, I know the big complaint from a lot of the older guys has always been, well, we don't want that to be a destination tour. We don't want guys to get too comfortable there.
Starting point is 00:59:44 And I don't think anybody's getting too comfortable there. And you know what, I don't think anybody's getting too comfortable in the corn fairy tour. Like going to, you know, Wichita and Springfield Illinois and Kansas City in the middle of the summer, like that's, you know, it's still a grind. And it's crazy too, this year, like with, you got guys that won in 2020
Starting point is 01:00:04 that are outside the top 25 right now that are looking on the outside looking in as far as getting their PGA tour card next year. So, I wish they were giving out more spots for tour cards this year because it seems like 25 guys from what, 50 events, it's just. That's a lot. Yeah. So I gotta take TC. Oh, hit know, 50 events, it's just... That's a lot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:26 So I got to take TC. Oh, hit me, buddy. Oh, no. Goes hand in hand with increased purses on the corn fairy tour. They should go the exact opposite way, in my opinion, and hand out like five cards a year. Make the corn fairy tour the PGA tour, and have like 75 cards, 75 PGA tour members,
Starting point is 01:00:48 essentially make every PGA event elevated status, big purses. I feel like that's, well, that's the answer for the PGA tour that I don't think that they're gonna be able to ever do that, but if I could come in and wave a magic wand, that's what I think. Well, I think that's the elephant in the room,
Starting point is 01:01:05 is like a John Deere classic or a Sanderson Farms or a 3M feels a hell of a lot closer to a top end corn fairy tour event than it does to the players or memorial. Or like, I feel like those events, like at least in stature and people who are watching, like there's a wide dispersion between events on the least in stature and people who are watching, there's a wide dispersion between events on the PGA tour, just as there are with events on the corn
Starting point is 01:01:29 fairytour. I think the gap between the top corn fairytour events and the bottom PGA tour events is not as wide as they would want you to believe. More money on your tour is going to make it more competitive. It's going to help it compete with the European tour and the path of the, it's going to make it a better path to the PGA tour and less Peter U lines and pro scuepers going over to Europe and manipulating the official World Cup record. Thank you, Jason.
Starting point is 01:01:53 I called that out when it happened, by the way, which we can talk about that next if you want to. Garek Higo has won for the second time. King of Spain. King of Canary Islands has won 21 year old South African African wins the Canary Islands championship on he he shot 66 63 64 64 to win by like six or seven maybe even eight he won by a lot impressive impressive young player from South Africa just racking up the points overseas if you will you had a pretty damning stat who do you think got more world ranking points this week? Gary Woodland for his fifth place finish at the Wells Fargo or Maverick Antcliff? Because they got the same amount.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Maverick finished second at the Canary Islands Championship. I might have this wrong, but it's something along the lines of there were 45 top 100 players at Wells Fargo this past week. And there were two top 100 players in the Canary Islands. Yet you have to beat, basically, you can beat one top 100 player and get as many points as you would get on the PJ tour if you beat like 43 out of 45 top 100 players. Like there is a supreme injustice with world ranking points happening and no one seems to care about it. And I don't know how like American players ranked between like 50th and 150th haven't like filed a lawsuit because like it is a heist right now.
Starting point is 01:03:12 Like is this not a more guys go over there and collect world ranking points in? I don't know if that's like the bet and the most economical decision for them. I really, I don't think you want to leave your, you don't want to give a, honestly, you don't want to give a FedEx cup points because that's how they maintain, you know, their status on the PGA tour. I mean, you still got to work your ass off on the European tour to get, like, in the top 50,
Starting point is 01:03:35 but basically kind of how the world rankings are going to get filled. I think they give away major championship spots based on these points. And that's the thing is like, holy shit, a lot of them are gonna become, the European tour has been hit very hard from this pandemic. And their strength of field has, it's jarring.
Starting point is 01:03:52 I think they have seven straight events, or basically since they've left the Emirates, or since they left Saudi, they haven't had any event reach like a strength of field number that would get them out of the, so how it works is like, you default to 24 points to the first place finisher, no matter what your strength of field is if you're a European tour event, you know, but if you get to a certain strength of field number, that would go
Starting point is 01:04:11 up to 26 or whatever. But the minimum you can get is 24, even if you get like no one playing in it and they have like no one playing in like eight straight events that I will say. All right, so it's kind of a perfect storm because after the bone saw, it's typically, they come over for the WGC and they've got like, codders kind of falling on hard times the last few years. They had the Kenya double, Randy. They had Austrian open, they had the Grand Canaria,
Starting point is 01:04:39 they had a tenor reef. They went three weeks in a row. Yeah. Oh my gosh, they had the Austrian open. Like it's typically the weakest part of their schedule in normal years too. So it's not like we're talking about the meat of their schedule here.
Starting point is 01:04:54 And then they've got the British masters at the Bell Free next week, which probably a little bit better. I'm hoping so. I mean, that event is probably gonna be properly allocated. It's like one of the first ones. Yeah. And so. I mean, that that that event is probably going to be properly allocated. It's like one of the first ones. Yeah. And then they've got, you know, they've got some fun stuff.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Like they've got the Scandinavian mixed the week before the US open. And then July is really when it kicks into gear. They've got the. I told you live, my friend. They got the Irish open. It's got a show. And they've got the whales open this year, they've got.
Starting point is 01:05:26 And that's all fine, but my point being, we're all building up towards the PGA championship coming up. And like major championship spots are gonna be given out because of points earned in this little stretch here. And that's, I don't know. That's my point. I can't believe there's not more players that have taken notice of any of this,
Starting point is 01:05:41 or have any issue with it, but it just seems like this system is not, is not set up great for, you know, identifying the guys that are constantly beating top 100 players. But it sounds like the alliance seems to get more strategic. I'm surprised the tour is not flexing more muscle regardless of that now that they have this alliance. So anyways, LPGA, area Jotana Garn, back in the winter circle, she shot a final round 63 to win by one over Atia Titskuhl. I have that right, Randy? That was really good, yeah, I'm impressed.
Starting point is 01:06:16 And two over Patty Tavitanikit. I, among many others, so Yanyu was up there, of course. She's the greatest. I didn't get to watch a lot. Did you get to watch much this weekend, Big Randy? I did, but I could never make it through the full round because it would just get too late nightfall sleep. That's why we sent you out west.
Starting point is 01:06:34 You're supposed to be able to stay up later than we can. I was still just on, it was just a little too late. I saw a ton of like holes one through 11 though. I was bummed. I was crushed to wake up to the news of of patty T not getting it done. Although I love our is one of my favorite, you know, top three or four favorite players though. I know it looked like a patty T run away again.
Starting point is 01:06:57 She was like 18, 36 and 54 whole liter. Yeah, I believe she had a share at least after each day. But shot 70s, a pair of 70s on the weekend, of course, was playing pretty easy. It was very wet. They had gotten a lot of rain over there. I was super impressed with Tidacool, though. She was very impressive on her home soil. Yeah, patty tee. I don't know. It just, you know, for whatever reason kind of stalled out. I think it's a good sign though that we're all very disappointed and you know like, oh my gosh, how can she do not have won? That seems like a good sign for her going forward. I need to share
Starting point is 01:07:36 this on Twitter, but they had a great, that their tournament social was awesome in this event. They had an awesome warm a video of her warming up. And it was basically every swing she took and. And this like drill she's doing where she's balancing on her left foot and balancing on her right foot, taking these full swings. And they edited out. There's no waggles at all. It's like all swing, swing, swing, swing, swing. You can just slowly see her ramp up her speed in her practice session. It was just very much a kind of jarring thing to watch, you know, very condensed cycle of like what an actual, the words warm up never made more sense to be than watching somebody go through that. I need to share that. But, uh, angel in society. 65, 65, 66 to close it out after, after even part
Starting point is 01:08:17 first round. T three. That's good to see. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, the other, Hannah Green has been playing really good golf the last several weeks. She's right in and again tied for seventh. So the women they the next week's event was supposed to be in China, which got canceled. So they'll take I think at least one week off and are coming back to the United States. Their next event will be in Williamsburg in a couple weeks. And then after that, I'm really looking forward to the last week in a May is their new match play event at Chateau Creek, which is going to be a ton of fun. And then it rolls right into the US Open at Olympic. So pretty good stretch here on the LPGA. TC, you did some scouting this week for a future venue on the LPGA tour this year. I did. Yeah, first, I'm super, super excited for the reshuffle. It was per two.
Starting point is 01:09:12 It's our friend and young, young hitter, Lauren Coglin in the mix. I think she'll reshuffle. Is it before or after that event, Randy? The reshuffle? Yeah. I'm not, I'm not deep enough to know when the re-shuffles are. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:09:28 And then yeah, when's it, when's it in, Inverness this week? And it was fantastic. I'm not that pretty amazing at first. Not my socks off. Such a cool course. There's, you know, there's like, one of the coolest first 10th tee,
Starting point is 01:09:44 kind of combos there with that, you know, kind of ravine and then just going over there to the same creek, same two creeks kind of over and over and over and over again, but in different ways. And I think they'll they'll they'll mess with the mess with the routing a little bit for this all-hime cupheim Cup, but it's a great course, even better club. Like everybody I met out there was just a, you know, total members club. Total members club, big national membership. Okay. Don't take themselves too seriously. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Always trying to game. Can you get a get, can you show up and get a game? Evidently, we showed up and got a game. What was the water pressure like? I didn't, I didn't, I didn't see the water pressure. Then you haven't been ever nasty yet. That's true. That's true.
Starting point is 01:10:27 No, it was fantastic. So I think Toledo will turn up for that. I'm excited for that. Rani, you got in the tours asked a little bit as it came to some LPGA stuff this past weekend. Well, you're referring to the piece in the Polish and publishing the athletic earlier this week that had a few tidbits there about a deposition of PGA tour commissioner Jay Manehan,
Starting point is 01:10:56 another senior executive, Lauren Neal, I believe is the senior vice president communications. And I think the headline was, you know, talking about the TV deal that the PGA tour negotiated on behalf of the LPGA tour and, you know, kind of bundling the LPGA with the PGA tour, the new media deal. And how like, you know, at least 95% of the revenue goes to the PGA tour. I, you know, I don't know if we have to like, you know, at least 95% of the revenue goes to the PGA tour. I don't know if we have to like like that, I wish that was different, right? But I get that. That didn't surprise me at all.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Yeah, I thought some of the outrage on that was like... I didn't like the headline. The headline is PGA tour acknowledges that it keeps more than 90% of revenue in joint TV deals with LPGA, which makes it sound like, all right, they get this money and then they're supposed to divvied up and they keep 90% of it and they'll only give 10% of with LPGA, which makes it sound like, all right, they get this money and then they're supposed to divv it up and they keep 90% of it and they'll only give 10% of the LPGA. That's not. Yeah, and I think, you know, like I would say,
Starting point is 01:11:53 objectively, the LPGA is probably getting more money from the deal because they're lumped in. Like if they were negotiating it on out, they probably wouldn't have as much sway with the networks and everything. So do I think that the PGA tour could do a whole hell of a lot more to encourage more collaboration between the two tours or do,
Starting point is 01:12:17 support the LPGA tour more? Absolutely, but I don't think this is one of those instances that was like this smoking gun that kind of made it out to be in the headline. No, included in that story though, there were a couple anecdotes where Commissioner Monahan was asked, this was last December, right around the US Women's Open in Houston last year. He was asked to name, you know, like the best LPGA players competing at the US Women's Open. He declined, I guess, which, you know, I honestly have a hard time believing Jay Monhan doesn't know, like, who most of the top LPGA players are, like, to think he
Starting point is 01:13:01 would not is just so ludicrous, maybe. don't understand though why he didn't answer the question. And I think my bigger concern is just how, you know, I think of other leagues. You know, I always turn to like Adam Silver. I think he for the most part does a pretty good job with the MBA. Like how do you get in a position as the PGA tour commissioner where you're even in a spot
Starting point is 01:13:26 to be deposed like that and to have it leak in the media? Like him refusing or not being able to name any LPGA players was just so, seemed like just such a bad look where I'm like, how does it get to that? And I guess my thing is too, having signed a strategic alliance,
Starting point is 01:13:46 you know, the tour loves to do that, having signed a strategic alliance with the LPGA back in 2016, I believe. It just came across very disrespectful. And I know maybe that's the way the article was written, and it certainly generated some clicks, but I don't know how else you're supposed to read it, right? I don't know. I don't know if you guys had differing opinions or what you thought about it. I think it's important to view it the whole thing. And if this was a LPGA lawsuit against the PGA tour,
Starting point is 01:14:20 like, hey, something's wrong here. I think all of this would be very fair game. I think this is a Hank Haney, like weird kind of type loose tie back to the LPGA where Hank Haney got fired because of disparaging comments he made. And basically he's trying to make the case that the tour doesn't care at all about LPGA golf. And that is why his lawyer is asking Lauren Neal and Jay Monahan to name these top five players to, you know, find a way to make a case against them. Whereas if Jay goes and doesn't name them in order and get all the top five, who knows his lawyer might be telling him a tour lawyer might be
Starting point is 01:14:55 saying, don't, Nate, don't answer that because like they might use that against you in this this way. Blah, blah, blah. So I think the context of how it's kind of happening is important. But like honestly, as much as like I would love to consider myself a champion for the LPGator, if you ask me to name the top five, both in the men's and women's ranking, I probably wouldn't get five all five right. Like that's a little harder to...
Starting point is 01:15:17 Well, and I think it's, yeah, like are you taking it literally or are you taking it? Right. And I think that's where, that's where I come back to. It's a deposition. They're like, they're supposed to be uncomfortable. Yeah. Kind of miserable and like, you know, you just feel like just kind of slimy, right? And so, you know, it's very well like I'm
Starting point is 01:15:34 I don't, you know, I love I love throwing stones at the tour and taking a dump in the in the data mode and all that. But it's like, you know, at some point, like maybe he was under various specific orders to not, you know, not saying anything. I actually read through the whole deposition, somebody shared it with me. And yeah, I mean, it's not like, they're, it's very in line with like the tours,
Starting point is 01:15:59 the tours attitude and approach to a lot of things. Like it's, if it was, if it was very different from that, I would say, all right, I'm throwing this out with the bath water, but it is in line with how they treat other stuff as well. They're just fucking airing it, you know? Yeah, I think that, yeah, sorry, go ahead. Go, no, go ahead. No, I think that's maybe my bigger frustration
Starting point is 01:16:25 is it's just indicative of, I don't know, I guess it just gave me ammunition or some affirmation of just what I felt is like, you just don't get the sense that the PGA tour does much to support the LPGA tour in any way. In their marketing, in their schedule, in their, you know, whatever. And, you know, having signed a strategic alliance with them, whatever that means. Like, I know very tangibly, I guess, you know, they can help them get a few more TV dollars.
Starting point is 01:17:00 But it just, I don't know. To me, it's like, I'm trying to imagine Adam Silver, right, to bring it back to the MBA and the WMBA relationship. That's where I give him and the MBA so much credit is what they do to support and really build up the WMBA. And I know it's a little bit different because the MBA actually like fully owns the WMBA where the LPGA and PGA are separate entities, but It just I don't know it just leaves me disappointed. I feel like the PGA tour could do They could do a lot more and I'd love it if they just did a little bit more. Yeah, I feel like it's a instead of looking at as a route It's a symptom, right?
Starting point is 01:17:45 It's seeing a sign of all this other shit that you're seeing, like below the surface, it's like the iceberg, right? Yeah, yeah. I just, the only challenge I have, like, Randy, do I agree? Do I wish that was the case? Of course I do.
Starting point is 01:17:59 I guess if I'm viewing it from their perspective, like, if I'm Jay Monhand, like, that is not in my job description. Like, it's just not, not like my job is to create money from these sponsors and get it circulated to our players that are members of our tour, right? So do they run into issues if, you know, their priorities somehow lose focus on that?
Starting point is 01:18:17 Like do I think they're serving those players quite well? Yes. Tom Hogi makes a fantastic living. And he's unfortunately the go to and all of the, and whenever that joke gets cracked, but like, is that his job to support women's golf? Sadly, I don't think it is. And maybe they do, if they do more than we know of, I'd love to know what that is,
Starting point is 01:18:35 but you know, it just doesn't seem like, that just seems like as a golf fan, it's like it would be a nice to have that's just very much like, unfortunately, probably not part of his job description. Does that make sense? Okay. It totally makes sense.
Starting point is 01:18:47 I think that's the very narrow focus view. Just talk to golf weeks Beth Ann Nichols recorded a chapter on which we'll come out early this week. And she made the point we were chatting, you know, what started the Korean Gulf craze, which the PGA tour is reaping, right? Not only through talent, but opening, advertising, and revenue, and fan interest, that was say repock that has created, essentially is what has become a male and female Korean Gulf craze.
Starting point is 01:19:23 And so I just feel like it's a little bit short-sighted for the PGA tour, not to recognize the impact that building up the women's game can do. Let alone for the fact, I'm somebody who got involved in golf through my grandmother, my dad's mom. You bring all these different golf fans and you create golf fans, they're gonna pass that down to their kids.
Starting point is 01:19:47 Like it just seems like if you took a little bit broader more holistic view, they could do a bit more. But I certainly understand your sentiment that day to day, I'm sure he's got a lot of other stuff to worry about, but I do think the tour could do a bit more. It's just little stuff. Like you could do a joint event. That one's a no-brainer where it's like,
Starting point is 01:20:08 actually, I think you'd be serving your constituency better doing that than throwing, like get creative with the president's cup or something. But. No, we're going to Quill Hollow next year. Okay, and it's gonna be amazing. It's gonna be incredible. We're taking on the world, the international team, they're from everywhere but you're going to Quail Hollow next year. Okay, and it's gonna be amazing. It's gonna be incredible. They're taking on the world.
Starting point is 01:20:27 The international team, they're from everywhere, but you're up. I think the other thing is just, that's more broadly and melodic of like, that's the way that the tour, everything's in the two to three year timeframe. They're so disincentivized, even from an executive level of looking beyond that,
Starting point is 01:20:43 just because they're know, it's their bonus on playing opportunities and, you know, like the guys that are on the PGA tour right now kind of thing. Yeah. Which is, you know, tying it back to what we said earlier, I think, is part of what is exposed them to the PGL and the SGL, right? Yeah. Like, they're just not that strategic or forward thinking, maybe.
Starting point is 01:21:04 That's where it kills me when, when, when Rory's like, yeah, you know, like it just, it would just be so different if we went and played in this PGL thing. And, you know, and like we're playing for such prestige and such history on the PGA tour, like fuck off. Oh. Playing for like, you know, the Comcast business top 10 and the FedEx Cup, which was, which was made up in the mid 2000s.
Starting point is 01:21:28 You know, like it's absurd. And it's, yeah, I mean, it's 18 minutes of commercials, jam down your throat every, it's not, it's not treated like a prestigious sporting event. It's treated like a big commercial vehicle. Like so don't, I mean, don't try to sell us on that. The reason why the majors are interesting is because those are like the prestige we're
Starting point is 01:21:45 talking about. It's not. There's a couple of PGA tour events that have it, but not a lot of them. Cleaning out some other notes. I saw Ian Polter got a notice about a slow play. His average shot time went up a second to barely being over 45 seconds, which he put up on Instagram with. Hey, the fact that that's a thing all for it, which I just don't know how that's being
Starting point is 01:22:01 measured. I mean, is it shot link volunteers that, like our 65 year old paying shot link volunteers, raining, let me beat you to that, that, you know, are they accurately charting their time? I just don't know how real that is. I wish they would publish everybody's average shot time, right? Like, make that, put that on the tour website under stats or whatever.
Starting point is 01:22:23 I would love that. And that's all I've got on the golf front, anything else before we switch over to form the one. It sounded like a really good corn fairy tour event up in Nashville. Austin Smotherwood grew up with college team Adolf Bryson, the Shambo. That was a guy that Harry Higgs last year, I asked him, you know, any guys in particular coming up the stuck out to you and he mentioned him. So and Steven Yeager was going for his, he's number one on the, on the list right now. He's going for his third win, which would be a battlefield promotion, which in my mind is the most impressive thing at all of golf.
Starting point is 01:22:54 And you have better status than Will's outsourced. Exactly. Peter, you line finished T7. He started the week 25th in the standings. Guess what he got up to? 24th. 24th. Yeah. It's, it's, it's,
Starting point is 01:23:08 God, Lee, any one event that's here, he's 25th. All right, so that's the end of golf talk. If you do not want to listen to Formula One talk as some of you have made clear, you do not, then please just exit this out of your podcast feed. But I missed the race today, but let me, let me report it that Formula one on serious XM is just like watching on TV
Starting point is 01:23:27 It's incredible. I felt like I didn't even miss out on the race today just by listening to it Who are the guys who are the the commentary? I don't know what their names were. I don't think it was Crofty and the boys I couldn't quite tell Exactly who it was, but it sounded exactly like it But they just you know they can pound on the strategy even more and like they were all over it when Hamilton pitted again. They were shocked and then they were saying, exactly what was gonna happen. It was awesome on radio.
Starting point is 01:23:50 I was very impressed how good it was. I mean, Toto dragged his nuts all over everybody today. It was true, Alphas, it was true, Alphas, shit. Toto just absolutely panced Christian order. Why did, one thing they didn't explain is why didn't, when Hamilton went to go pit, and it was evident that he was gonna get past, why didn't he pit right away? Like why wouldn't him, for staffing pit right away?
Starting point is 01:24:16 Maybe it's because he was gonna come out in traffic for whatever reason, but like, his only chance was to get on slightly better soft tires at the end and run Hamilton down, right? I mean, there was no defending against that. Oh, yeah. That's a great question. I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:24:29 And maybe they just weren't prep for it or... Yeah. I don't know his tire situation, as we probably should know more, but... Yeah, I was kind of in and out. It was Mother's Day morning. So, it's kind of... You would have had to have pitted that like very next lap after Hamilton went in and I think or else he would have he would have been undercut. I think, you know, by the time he went around once, I was like, okay, if you're not coming in now, you just have
Starting point is 01:24:53 to try to stay out there and somehow hold him off. How about Botos not getting out of Hamilton's way? So I had two big takeaways, really three big takeaways this week. One was Botos knocking out of his way and like Hamilton having to do an actual like racing maneuver to pass him. Like what a bitch. No, I like that. I'm gonna stand up for Botas here. He had no chance, like he had zero chance
Starting point is 01:25:17 of holding off Hamilton for more than a lap or two. A make a merit, make a merit. I, Botas has too much pride. I do not fault him for that He's just a weed that man. I can't pin the fins down. Can't pin the fins down I was devastated about I felt like four or five laps to go or or man Georgie Was in was in was p 10. He was he was sniffing a point and then was in was p 10 he was he was sniffing a point and and then you know in like the blink of an eye he was 15 he was in there's this like huge what were they calling it all day like the DRS train they were like these five cars that were just bunched and all of them had DRS and not only
Starting point is 01:25:57 to pass each other and yeah poor Georgia I think ended up at the back of the DRS train hated that do we have standings for our Formula One fantasy league yet? I mean, TC's gonna run away with it this year. I have a feeling. No, I'll have to manually, I'll tally him. Maybe we can tweet him out this week. We're in like a fantasy league. I got a grid rival, Lee, Randy, and I are at least.
Starting point is 01:26:22 And it's Randy's got an off to a good start this year. Yeah, I got the team I got the team playing well. Got the boys racing hard. I was bummed my man Yuki. Oh, shit and all over us. God, that was a tough look on set. A week. Just really bitchy. And then didn't finish the race. Yeah. What do we think about the Aston Martin's this year? What's up with that? T.C.'s in a lot to answer for that. Do you have anything you want to answer for? No, I think they're on to 2022. They're trying to...
Starting point is 01:26:53 You're going to cheat again next year? No, they're trying to get ahead of this stuff. I don't like the paint job. That's what's told them back. What was the cheating last year? I was at the Atlanta Airport last night. There was a guy that decked out in Aston Martin, you know, ex, you know, like that dark green,
Starting point is 01:27:11 you had the whole like tracksuit on it. And I don't mind the green, but it just doesn't pop. No, no, there's so much black in there. Like they got to figure out a way to make that green pop a little bit. Another great, great ride for my man, Checo. So I got a question. Is Checo any different than the last two Red Bull racers opposite backs?
Starting point is 01:27:35 Like, what's he doing any different than? He's so much, he's squeezing, he's finishing races. He's squeezing so many, he's making lemon, making lemonade of lemons. Oh, he's had a red ball. Yeah, but he's getting, first of all, he's got to get used to a new car here. You guys are. So check out his six than the standings right now. Okay. Okay. Do you remember what Alex Albon finished? How long came out fire in last year? He, Albon finished seventh last year in St. And then he was, he was a danger to himself
Starting point is 01:28:06 and others in the process though. I don't feel like Albon got this like, he's got to get used to the car grace period that Checa's getting. Mm. Listen. It's very interesting, Rudy. I'm just saying, I haven't noticed,
Starting point is 01:28:18 like Sergio has certainly nowhere, and it might just speak to how good of a driver Max is, right? Where it doesn't matter who you put beside max he's just gonna be that much better than them but I guess my point is like check out and look any different than I like I like to see check out check out given charlie clah a run for his money charlie's trying to start into starting to reassert himself a little bit this year, which devastating. I was watching it with my little guy Freddie this morning,
Starting point is 01:28:48 Big Ferrari fan, Big Ferrari likes the red cars. I think that's how they've got a lot of fans over the years. So who do you guys think is the third best driver right now? Obviously assuming Lewis and Max is one two. I mean, is it Landau or is it Botos? Or is it LeClair? I think it's LeClair.
Starting point is 01:29:10 The guy who's doing the most with the East. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's LeClair. And then, you know, I think the most probably it's like, who's the fourth, the fourth best driver? Because Ricardo has been kind of up and down, hit her miss. Landau can't seem to start properly. Signs is a fluffer, in my opinion.
Starting point is 01:29:31 I think signs is like a, signs is like a, like a sexier version of Lance Stroll. It's worth knowing Ferrari. Ferrari's sniffing on McLaren's heels already for third. That's going to be quite a bounce back for Ferrari. It's going to be, there's a couple, the races are gonna shake out a lot more interestingly this year, I think.
Starting point is 01:29:49 I'd rather, there's gonna be an actual race for third place it looks like, which I think is gonna be interesting. I think the fourth best driver might be, if it's not Lando, I think it might be George Eurussel. That's where I just don't know how to separate the car from the driver in this regard. So. Do you guys wanna apologize about Esplan Ocon. No, we're good there. He's putting together a nice little stretch here. He's up to ninth in the driver's standings
Starting point is 01:30:14 I think I think it'd be big of you guys to maybe offer just a little bit of I don't think we've had a I don't think we've had that many good tracks yet. Have we I mean I mean, it's been a, it's been kind of slim pickings thus far in the I was not overly impressed with the Portugal's Spain. What's up next, Monaco? Yeah, we're going to Monaco in a couple of weeks. Okay, which I, I just to prepare everybody, I guess it's not like the best race. It's just the best party.
Starting point is 01:30:40 So I guess that's something going, going back, I do want to, you know, another guy that I really love. I really enjoy watching Akita Mazepin. Oh my God. Hey, we're there. They're gonna blue flag him today because he refused. He's getting laughed, but he's refusing to let like guys buy. To do getting on the horn. Yeah. I want team. It has to to be the agents of chaos. It's amazing that they're going to like not even sniff a point, like not even get even remotely close to one. Or Masepin could take out half the field and then Schumacher, you know, Waltz is in denying
Starting point is 01:31:20 there's something. I don't think Masepin's beaten a racer yet. Like I don't think Mazpin's beaten a racer yet. Like, I don't think he's only beaten anyone that maybe has retired in a race, which is awesome. It looks like from where I can tell there are like four storylines this year, right? There's like the Lewis Max World Championship storyline. There's the like who will finish third in the constructors, right, which is essentially gonna be McLaren versus Ferrari. And then I think there's like the best of the rest, which is a little bit, eh. And then it's like Will, Haas, Williams, maybe Alpha Romeo,
Starting point is 01:31:58 like, when have them even scored a point? It's like the other thing. The other thing. I think. I've been impressed with Kimmy this year. He's punching above that car's weight, I think. Which, listen, TC, nobody loves that phrase more than I do and I love that you use it. I just don't know.
Starting point is 01:32:15 I don't know. I'm not, I'm not smart enough to know. Why don't we, it seems like the type of guy that will give you a professional drive. Does he met with? And he always had a wedding this weekend with a French guy who was shooting all over Cyril. So I think you guys need to apologize to me. Well, Cyril's not in race in the form of the one who's shot.
Starting point is 01:32:33 I know Neil was shot. I brought that up at the draft. Nobody listens to me on this podcast. All right, let's wrap it for the week. Big guy, thank you very much and TC. Thank you guys. Yeah, this is fun. Thanks for having me.
Starting point is 01:32:48 Anytime, anytime. We got an interview coming up. Not just, we'll tease it as that. Coming out this coming Tuesday in advance of the AT&T Byron Nelson. And then yeah, we'll be, I'm heading to Dallas tomorrow, actually, for another interview. Aplex.
Starting point is 01:33:04 Head into theplex to do another interesting interview that'll be playing on next Sunday night's episode. So, should we go? Ray, what do you got cooking this week? Anything? Oh, the reds are in town. This is in the Rockies this weekend. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:17 Buy some line drive seats. Yeah, big four game home stand for the Rockies. I'm gonna be there supporting my red legs. I was supposed to play golf Tuesday, my first round in Colorado, but the weather forecast is right now, it's 42 degrees and snow. So I don't know if that's gonna happen or not, but.
Starting point is 01:33:34 Nice. Do you miss it here yet, Big? God, I, not, not really. I mean, I miss you guys. I don't miss the location. That's fair. I still haven't, like, I'm still waiting miss you guys. I don't miss the location. That's fair. I still haven't, like I'm still waiting for you
Starting point is 01:33:46 to just walk through that door. I can't, it doesn't, hasn't set in yet that you're gone. We got some new content coming this week on the video front and the little series we were calling Film Room. That'll be out, I believe Monday, believe tomorrow and maybe that's how this is an episode is, maybe that's how you're listening to this episode might be out. And then a bunch of other videos coming out this week,
Starting point is 01:34:04 probably I'm not sure on the dates on those might be out. And then a bunch of other videos coming out this week, probably I'm not sure on the dates on those exactly, but then we had a couple of that. We had the Northland, while we were golf came out last week. We needed to do a proper, proper, you know, tourist-sauce treatment or something up there at some point, the bullet interview.
Starting point is 01:34:19 And then yeah, we were on the road this week, Neil and Cody and I going to Congurye. That's right. And then going to Seattle. Never been a Seattle before. Going to Seattle on Thursday. Back here, back here in Brella. Holy damn it.
Starting point is 01:34:33 All kinds of things going on. So yeah. All right, thanks everyone for tuning in. We'll see you back here next week. Cheers. Gee, frugal. Give it a big club. Be the right club today. club. Be the right club today.
Starting point is 01:34:45 Yes! That is better than most. How about in? That is better than most. Better than most. I expect anything different.

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