No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 433: Thursday PGA Championship Recap

Episode Date: May 21, 2021

Kiawah shows out, Corey Conners stripes it, Rory doesn't, and everything else from round 1. We talk ESPN+, Brooks' dumb hat, Hovland, Morikawa, Spieth, JT, Keegan, Phil, grandstands, and a lot more. ... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to be the right club today. That's better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. How are you? I am wonderful ready to chat some PGA championship big Randolph out in Denver. How are you? I am great. It's good. I want to say you guys are my full-time hitters. Thank you full-time hitters only and joined live from an undisclosed location in the greater Charleston area. Code name Cody who was on site at Kiawood today. Cody. How are you? Great. Happy to be here and
Starting point is 00:01:02 who was on site at Kiawood today, Cody, how are you? Great, happy to be here. And ready to talk a little day one action. Well, let's do that. It's all where do you want to start? You're driving the ship here. Well, at first I was going to ask Cody how did Scott Stallings do today? Did he have a...
Starting point is 00:01:14 Ha ha ha. Listen, listen, folks. I appreciate it. I still think he's vibe in next week's program. Love him. Never count him out. Never. We're gonna go colonial. He's gonna win. He's in next week. Love him. Never count him out. Never. We're gonna go colonial.
Starting point is 00:01:26 He's gonna win. He's gonna win it. Congri. We're totally fine guys. It's gonna be okay. I had to welcome you to the live show in that way. Before we get rolling, I wanna give a shout out to our friends at wineaccess.
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Starting point is 00:02:55 Let's start with Cody, who is on site here. What's the story of the day for you? What's the first thing that comes to mind that you'd wanna talk about? Well, for me, I think it's Will's Out of Torres. So lucky enough to see him hole out for that ego on six. Absolutely flushing it. Miss a couple, you know, T-Shots here and there, but, you know, overall a really
Starting point is 00:03:15 good day. And I think he's going to get a little bit crowned by having a laterally start. And that's kind of going to be the motto going forward. But that's where I start out. Big Randy. Well, I want Mr. Cody to be very, very, very judicious in throwing around the term flushing. It's a high bar to clear.
Starting point is 00:03:36 So don't just throw that around willy-nilly, okay? I'd say for me, the first thing, my first story was just the course and the conditions. I think it was spicier than I was anticipating. The wind was fresh for most of the day. And honestly, I mean, I tweeted some of this stuff later in the day. I turned on the Michelson only, feed on ESPN Plus, his back nine was just resplendent.
Starting point is 00:04:04 It made me feel like a young man again, turning back the clock back nine 32 was just a lot of fun. It's just a lot of fun for me when he plays well. It's what, you know, where would you put that on the sustainability charts? The film makes us a lot. Absolutely zero. Short shelf life. I have no confidence that'll back it up. It'd be great if you did, but I, you know, I, if the overrunner was like, you know, 74 and a half tomorrow, I would probably take the over
Starting point is 00:04:32 with my smart money. But hopefully you're wrong. Pumping carbon into the air. DJ, what's your big takeaway from today? Randy kind of mentioned it up front before veering into Mikkelson land, but the course for me, I had an absolutely just thrilling time watching the golf today. I had it, it was a rejuvenating round of golf on TV, especially kind of early afternoon, as that first wave was finished in second wave was taken off. It was really, really fun. Fun to watch how the guys navigated the wind,
Starting point is 00:05:02 fun to watch guys hit it in absolute shit spots. Dustin Johnson before he got dropped from coverage. Honestly, like I don't want to spike the football on the world number one, but it was, uh, it was a thrill to watch him make the golf course look as hard as it as it is. You know what I mean? It was just fun to watch him on those first four holes. Just hit it in horrible spots and that, that was kind of the story of a day for me. It was the golf course. We didn't really know how it was going to look. And now we know.
Starting point is 00:05:28 If you don't know, now you know. I would say out of how many, there are 156 guys, 155 of them made it look pretty hard. And the only one that didn't was Corey Connors. Even the guys that shot three under and stuff were at some point in what we would like to call ass spots. And Corey Connors was just in command. He was never out of position really the whole day. It's interesting that none of us said the story
Starting point is 00:05:51 of the day was speech shooting one over in a tie for 45. Well, that's what I'm just about to get to. I mean, this is the lip outs for Jordan's speech, we're just off the charts. I mean, I know that's what everyone's been dying to talk about. But I believe, do you want to apologize for, for, you know, meet the Corey Conn's takes you ahead. Are you talking to me or Cody? It's a DJ. Okay. No, I don't want to apologize and I don't want to treat the situation, you know, flippantly. It is a very powerful storm that is developing out in the Atlantic Ocean. So I know your models were pointing to a lot of different directions it could go. You thought it was going toer unexpectedly. None of the other models had this across face.
Starting point is 00:06:27 With across the Atlantic, just decimate the aisle of white. I'm not ready to evacuate those folks quite yet. The storm is developing, but I think there's a lot of golf to play out. He's holding stuff from the fringe. You know, he didn't miss a fucking golf shot all day. And yeah, maybe that'll continue for 72 holes. And he's also gonna put his eyes out like he did today, you know, maybe.
Starting point is 00:06:50 But, you know, I think much, we're gonna see a much more traditional storm. I would, I would warn the folks on the, on the US East Coast, your Wilmington's, your outer banks, like those, those regions that are typically hit pretty hard. You know, I would expect a normal storm coming your guys this way. Start preparing. If you didn't listen to the preview, I'm sorry. No, that's gonna make sense, but what do you get?
Starting point is 00:07:11 I did, I was in the preview, and I don't even remember where this bit, or what? We're talking about your models. It's a Y, it was a Y tone. Exactly. No, I will say I'm not willing to apologize, but I will absolute doff of the cap to Corey Connors.
Starting point is 00:07:28 He did not miss a golf shot. And it was really, really fun to watch. I kind of expected him to get eviscerated by the wind, especially on those, those back nine holes. I think maybe we got a little, little taste, seeing him tank the head cover off, coming into 18 there, but he, he, man, it just laser, laser straight iron shots.
Starting point is 00:07:46 It was really fun to watch. I think I think what my, oh, sorry, go ahead. Now, I was just saying, he hits the shit out of the ball. We know that, but he rolled it today. Yeah, man. I think he made a lead the field in Stroke's game, putting that is kind of in the mix. That's that's rare.
Starting point is 00:07:58 That's really model. Yeah. We're not, we're not counting on that last and, you know, three, four days, but is he going to top 20, which is what I had him for? Yeah, I think he will be. I think that's probably a pretty good bet right now, but is the same thing he's gonna bring? Is that weird?
Starting point is 00:08:11 Is that not surprising? Well, no, he's got a two shot lead, and he didn't miss a shot. And there's not really many Clydesdails around him up there. Other than I guess Brooks. Other than Brooks, other than Brooks. Victor? Keegan's a big one.
Starting point is 00:08:24 And a hot. He won a major a decade ago. Let's put the leaderboard up, should we? There we go. The reigning PGA champ is right there. Well, admittedly, Randy, I didn't really look that far down the leaderboard when I said that. We're kind of shooting from the hip here. It's, well, I think what my associate was saying with all of that, if I can, DJ, I think I would sum it up. Sure love is right. Well, you certainly cannot win the tournament
Starting point is 00:08:50 on Thursday. Thank you. God, but I think you can lose it. Who lost it then? There were a lot of guys that lost it. Yeah. Sam Burns for sure lost it. Any other guys? I think we expect a DB to be straight, vibing. That was not the case. Daniel burger, very trendy pick opening 79. I would say he lost it probably. Yeah, that's safe to say. If you want to play the how far back is too far back game, we can maybe we can save that for later. We can get it out right now. What we can go from the bottom up. Everyone else is doing top down from leaderboard. Why don't we go bottom up? How far back is too far back?
Starting point is 00:09:25 Is Roy and JT out of it at 75? I don't think so. No, and that might be my cutoff right there. I don't think everybody at plus three is in it, of course, but I think those guys can hang in number tomorrow. Get back around on the weekend. Yeah, I'd say plus four. I'd say anything plus four or worse today, get back around on the weekend. Yeah, I'd say plus, I'd say anything,
Starting point is 00:09:45 anything plus four or worse today, I'm saying they're done. They can't win it. Plus three is, plus three is the number that we're talking about right here. All right, so Cody, you were there on person. You kind of touched on, I'm guessing the best shot you saw.
Starting point is 00:09:58 I hope it's the zalatorous whole out because that was pretty much the best shot. I think I, any of us saw all day. What was the worst shot you saw today? Probably San Bern's on five. So flailed right into that bunker and, you know, flub two sand shots ended up making a six triple on that hole. And you could tell he's kind of grimacing a little bit, but I guess he didn't realize
Starting point is 00:10:20 that his back was in that bad shape. You know, he tried to strap it in and make it the nine what you did and then a prompt WD, but he looks like you was struggling all day, right out of the gates and you know, sucks for him because obviously coming off some really good play. Count me out on, I just searched on Twitter for Sam Burns. I'm trying to figure out why he withdrew.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Oh my God, it stumbled into DFS Twitter. Oh my God. He's my line of fuck this guy. Oh my god. What are you doing with drawing? I was like, oh, whoa. I have I have set my part partitian off that part of Twitter for very long. And I accidentally fell into it. It was like, get me the hell out of here. Oh my god. I did want to give some thoughts and prayers to, you know, obviously I hope hope saying burns is back gets better and one of the world's best young players gets back in the course, but I do want to give thoughts and prayers to anybody who had him in their line-ups this week because I know he was a highly highly populated player. And if you had him, make sure to meant like send a message to tweet at him. Yeah. Yeah. See if you can find his phone number, text him. I think he he'd love to hear from those guys tonight.
Starting point is 00:11:26 And a really good vibe too is just calling into question the severity of the injury that you can't feel. That's what I really enjoy because, yeah, I'm sure that Sam Burns coming off as this hot of play just decided to quit it after nine holes, you know, just decided, I don't wanna do this anymore, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:41 I'm gonna quit and walk off from my profession after preparing for this. Yeah, I'm sure that's, I think that's probably what he was after. So yeah, keep that vibe up. It's fun. Cody, give me give me some insights from from the golf course today. Head. First of all, what's your background of Kiowa? Have you been there before? Was this your first time? How long you've been there? What's the what's the what's the take away? It's just just download a little bit. Yeah. So I've been here for two days, got in yesterday afternoon, went out to the course right away, and then was out there early this morning.
Starting point is 00:12:07 This is probably my fourth or fifth time out here, although other times I played. So I love Kiowa, the ocean course kicks my butt every time I try to play it. And it's cool to see pros out there actually getting their teeth kicked in a little bit, no offense to them. But some crazy things happen that, that, you know, not just the wind and the wind swirling, but some over aggressive volunteers, I would say, maybe that's due to... Tell me, I want to hear about this. Maybe that's due to like limited spectators that are out there and it didn't feel you know crowded by any means so 10,000 people I think they're letting in this week, but
Starting point is 00:12:51 There was not that many people out there, but volunteers absolutely getting an asses everywhere And it started out this morning With some overbearing rope bears and then the funniest thing is when the afternoon wave started uh... go and warm up i walked over to go watch max and bones warm up and uh... katumi canaia so primarily plays on the japanese tour kind of walked right
Starting point is 00:13:19 right through or everybody else was standing and did not take the players route to get out to the driving range at like three volunteers immediately jumped on him because he had like some wrinkled pair of dockers on and just like kind of a faded polo shirt. And they're asking him for badges for, you know, he doesn't speak very good English. So badges he didn't get. He's literally signaling for agents and somebody to come help him But they finally got the situation under control and then he's over there. Threat was neutralized
Starting point is 00:13:51 Yeah, more with everybody else. I was like wow intense Did you ask how much they paid to volunteer this week? That's on my list to get tomorrow just for you Just an alley you just to feed them up perfectly. Can we talk a little bit about Cuba? I thought they did the hype coming into this week was about as good of a build up in terms of a mystery. I watched live from several times to the last night just to get every piece of information
Starting point is 00:14:20 I could on the golf course, talking about the win. The coverage of the golf course was just incredible. I mean, they, they, I felt like I was there. I've sitting here watching it for six hours on ESPN plus. I felt like I'd sand up my ass like that just from the visuals. Like I felt like I was walking keel just from taking it in because of how, like, how present everything really felt. And I don't know, I don't remember golf coverage really taking me to a site like that. Cody, I don't know if you have a standing in your ass as well, but the golf course is really, really tough, really challenging. Yeah, I'm kind of struggling with a leaderboard. It's given us right now. And where I'm at with
Starting point is 00:15:00 it is it seems like in spots that there are shots that there's not a great option to pull off a spectacular shot or it's extremely unlikely almost too unlikely whereas you know I'm thinking of 11 and I mean it's playing dead downwind but the way these greens sit with the way they're perched if you land on top of that within a with a second shot it's probably not holding and if you land short you can't bound up on And I feel like the praise for this golf horse has been pretty universal. And while I think it's solid to good, I just, I miss like a brick.
Starting point is 00:15:33 I know it's not realistic to expect a British open out of a PGA, but a shot that where you at least have the option to bound in front of and onto these greens, I feel like would make for way more entertaining golf tournament where you have more opportunity for spectacular shots. And that's just, it just seems like it's really set up to
Starting point is 00:15:50 protect par. I don't know how fun that's going to be for four days. I hope that's, I don't know if that goes too far in the negative camp, but I'm curious you guys feedback on that. I think that's totally fair. Granny, go ahead. No, I mean, I was just, I don't have a ton to add. So I'll just say, so I think those are good points.
Starting point is 00:16:10 I think I would love to see the course play like that. The one thing I noticed earlier today, just starting to watch. And honestly, as Kiwa came back to me, like, God, I do not remember many holes out there just on my own. So it was nice to really watch and have my memory jog. Just the length of the rough seems, it just feels unnatural.
Starting point is 00:16:33 And that's a lot for me to say, because usually I'm all about the rough, I'm all about the carnage. But I think just being so close to the ocean, it just doesn't sit right. There's something to bid off and I think maybe that's what you're hitting at a little bit too. So I would mostly agree with your take. I also think I'm not as down the leaderboard though as maybe you guys are. I think it has a chance to be very interesting here over the next couple of days. I agree it has a chance to be interesting. I'm not saying it's not going to be interesting. I just think that, you know, we're super bunched.
Starting point is 00:17:07 And that's where I'm at with like, you know, Cory Connors is too shot lead, but gosh, didn't the total number of guys that are, you know, there's 15 guys at minus two are better. And then you go, there's go super deep at minus one are better as well. And I just wonder if it's like this, it's like birdie or par on some holes and it's par or bogey, right? Those lines between birdie and bogey aren't that close. Does that make sense? Yeah. Totally. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:35 So Cody, did you get any sense of that? Like if you're out there seeing these golf shots, right? Seeing them being played. We're trying to take it on TV. Are you seeing like tremendous opportunities on a lot of these shots? Or do you kind of pick up what I'm getting at? Yeah, I think the downhole, you know, everything that's downwind.
Starting point is 00:17:52 So as soon as you make the turn from four to five, it's kind of the go zone all the way until you turn back into it on 14. And you saw people taking advantage of that, specifically on 11. The issue is once you get downwind on those holes, the majority of the part four is, I mean, if you're trying to land, you know, the ball a little bit short to a pin that's four paces on, you land it short and it hits the fringe, it's not going to bounce up.
Starting point is 00:18:21 You're not going to roll up on the green at all. And I think that's where you're kind going to roll up on the green at all. And I think that's where you're getting that there, Sally. The other side of it is there's rough in places where there shouldn't be roughs. There's protecting balls from rolling into bunkers or waste areas. And I think you could see more of the rough taken out of there just to get the ball more on the ground and kind of running because specifically into the wind, one through four, they're flying it, you know, right at pins and they're sticking and pretty reasonable putts because the greens are
Starting point is 00:18:58 rolling really, really good. I saw a ton of made putts today, a lot more than I expected one through four. But we'll see what it's like tomorrow. I mean, today the win was primarily like 10 miles an hour out of the North almost all day tomorrow. It's going to get up to 15 miles an hour and more out of the east. So a little bit of a switch there. So more cross wins to deal with both coming up and going back. Yeah, we'll see.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Well, the only thing I'd add to all of that, I thought it was a cool variety. Meaning that the par fives, you know, a lot of what you're talking about, I think, with, you know, hard to get close is, it's talking on your second shot, I think, like, in which shouldn't be really a
Starting point is 00:19:39 guarantee, I don't think, to try to hit, you know, these par fives and two, I think they're still very, very getable. You saw a lot of the birdies on the par-fives and two. I think they're still very, very getable. You saw a lot of the birdies on the par-fives. But I think that there was a ton of, especially like I'm thinking of a hole like 10, that pin was almost impossible to get close to,
Starting point is 00:19:55 which I thought was kind of cool from the perspective of, there were getable holes elsewhere. And I'm thinking specifically of Corey Conner's shot where he's trying to hit the perfect golf shot and he lands it, you know, right at the flag. No coincidence there. Right at the flag, but it's downwind. He lands it on a downslope and it scoots all the way through to the back bunker and hearing him on the telecast like, oh my gosh, what an unlucky break. That is. It's like, well, no, that you're not allowed to do that on
Starting point is 00:20:21 that whole man. You can't just hit it at the flag on all these, right? Exactly. Yeah. And where I'm at with that is like, all right on that whole man. You can't you can't just hit it at the flag on all these right exactly Yeah, and where I'm at with that is like all right that that's that's fine But if if for that 10th hole if the fairway was super wide and there was like a hazard down the right side that if you played close to it You could create an angle for that shot. Yeah, it would be super interesting Whereas with narrow fairways with this rough that Randy's talking about you got to kind of hit it right here There's not a lot of creativity off the tee right now. It's hit it in between, you know, these somewhat narrow fairways right now.
Starting point is 00:20:50 And then you're kind of trying to shot that's pretty impossible. Like there's no way to really get it that close there on 10. And that's kind of where I'm at with like, the praise was very universal for it. And I think it's mostly good. I'm intrigued by this golf course, but I just, I just don't, it's not, it's not a 10 out of 10. And that's probably nitpicking. I know,
Starting point is 00:21:09 but that's just, it had, it didn't create the most exciting style of golf today. I don't think. Yeah. We talked about this last, last Sunday, the changes that they made of the course and trying to put the teeth back into it back to, to 91 days. And as opposed to 2012, and I think when they tightened up some of these fairways, they went a little bit too far.
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Starting point is 00:23:35 What a, where do we want to start? We want to start with this golf game, his injury. He kind of looked like Ken Caminetti a little bit out there. All right. P, uh, I think let me start it out this way. Good to have him in the mix. Caminetti a little bit out there. R-O-P. I think, let me start it out this way. Good to have him in the mix. Oh, sure. I think he's a great guy to have back.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Happy, happy that he's there. What a terrible hat. All fat. Tough hat, yeah. What, how is he not in the, you know, may, you shouldn't yuck anybody's yum here. Maybe he loves, maybe he loves the hats, but how does, you know, Rory seems to get out of the ugly
Starting point is 00:24:10 ass hats, the cat obviously gets out of the ugly hats. How does Brooks not have the clout to get out of those things? They're awful. I think he does. He does it, so we save mean things about it, and then he does the, and I took that personally and goes out in shoes 69. And this is the first time, about it and then he does the and I took that personally and goes out in shoes 69 and
Starting point is 00:24:25 and this is the first time kept because had a great first round of a major that I haven't I'm not kicking myself for not seeing it coming because there was right I know he's extremely tough in majors his record is unbelievable but we've not seen good health at him out of him. Cloud Porter said it best he's bending down to read puts like Eddie tovincies setting up for a slider low in a way which again I, I don't know if he is on the sustainability model. I don't know if he's going to be able to last four rounds, you know, battling knee injuries and whatever it is. He did sound way more confident going into this week than you did for
Starting point is 00:24:56 the Masters. I kind of just kind of wrote it off a little bit just because, you know, I just needed to see a lot more out of him coming into coming into this. But dude, it really is, and if he continues to have a great week, we got to start talking about this guy in a different way. He needs to lead the major conversation every single time that there's a major championship and he's even remotely healthy. 100%. And it's also crazy.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Talk about sustainability and all, Corey Conner's putting his eyes out and all that kind of stuff. Coming into this week, it felt like most of the talking was about driving the golf ball, right? And you got to drive it. Well, you got to do this. You got to do that. And I mean, Brooks was what, 134th today in driving, Strokes Game Driving.
Starting point is 00:25:38 So I got to think that's going to go the other direction probably. That's probably not going to continue, which would scare the shit out shit out of me I guess if I'm anybody on that leaderboard so I got alerted somebody's at the front door but you do want us to pause we can wait okay that's my my my nest system there learning me so Tyler Serb in three asked how does a guy with two bad knees absolutely dominate Rory and JT it's rhetorical but if you want to comment be my guest I don't know who wants to jump on this grenade I mean some of it's just golf is fickle some of it is Rory hasn't been good in majors in years and years and years and JT leaves a little to be desired so you know you know, that's my answer.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Can we talk about Rory? Very scientific. Yeah, I mean, it, were you guys expecting good things out of Rory this week? I told you it was a complete coin flip. I know that's a cop out, but like I totally didn't know, like 75 doesn't surprise me in the least and 65 wouldn't surprise me in the least either.
Starting point is 00:26:46 You know, it was one of those it kind of felt like the win. I think they said it on the broadcast either today or maybe it was on live from or or what, but the peak how and thing almost seemed like kind of placebo like, you know, he was talking about how, you know, we really haven't even made too many changes yet. We're just kind of getting into it and it was almost like tricking yourself into, just finding what you needed to find to get it over the finish line at a Quill Hollow. And so it still doesn't seem like it's there, obviously, but yeah, it wouldn't have surprised me
Starting point is 00:27:18 if you went crazy low either. It's just, it's fucking disappointing, man. It's depressing. I hate seeing them do that. But we've seen them do it about 40 times's fucking disappointing man. It's depressing. I hate seeing him do that. But we've seen him do it about 40 times in a row now. So opening T-Shot, dead downwind, 10th hole. It was a driver in a flip wedge and he sprays it. And I mean, he took a, we can call a questionable drop.
Starting point is 00:27:37 I mean, I mean, we don't know. That overmokes friends here. That's the thing. When you have a course that's set up, holes that are framed like that with water and hazards, it becomes this, it's amazing that the highest level of the game we're playing this game. If I, hey, do you guys think it crossed here
Starting point is 00:27:52 or 150 yards further back? What do you think? While I was in the air, we have no depth perception on it. But where should I drop it? And the players decide that stuff is still insane to me. But yeah, gosh, it doesn't seem, I was trying to think about this earlier. Where would you guys have rather started?
Starting point is 00:28:11 Would you rather start on 10, play four holes downwind and then go like nine holes into the wind and finish kind of coming downwind? Or would you rather go four out like eight to nine holes downwind and then finish with five into the wind? Cody, where would you rather have started? You were out there. I'd probably say the front nine, I think it whole set up
Starting point is 00:28:30 lies, I mean, from there's not really any difficulty until you're coming back downwind anyway. Whereas you start in, you know, the back nine, 10, 11, 12, you're gonna be okay, but once you're turning in, you're, you know, getting your teeth punched in. Yeah. Brooks was talking about that too, that he, he seemed to think that was dramatically easier starting on the front, especially I would think in the afternoon tomorrow, like the guys
Starting point is 00:28:54 who start on the back in the afternoon tomorrow are going to have a, that's going to be the toughest, the toughest end of the toughest part of the draw, right? Yeah. So yeah, get this. If you, after playing the first four holes, you will go, again, these are all into the win. 206, 458, 606, 214, 474, all dead into the teeth. That includes 15, 17, and 18 were 3, 1, and 2, most difficult holes.
Starting point is 00:29:18 So you play the three most difficult holes there in a four hole stress. Then you flip over, 401, 551 559 381 and then 453, which they moved the fourth tee up today, all into the wind. Like that would be so grueling. Like it is so difficult to keep a round going when you're just like, you can't advance.
Starting point is 00:29:36 So you're just trying not to retreat. And it kind of doesn't really matter, because it flips, right? If you started on one today, you're starting on 10 tomorrow, and it does even out, but gosh, that's just something to watch. Somebody that really goes and tears through that nine-hole stretch into the wind is somebody that's gonna gain a lot of shots in the field.
Starting point is 00:29:53 So to your point, Sali, on wanting some more accessible hole locations and things like that on some of those downwind holes, does that almost like make the disparity even bigger? Do you know what I mean? Where it makes the easy holes even easier and it makes hard holes even harder? You know what I mean? It might make it almost like too lopsided.
Starting point is 00:30:14 It wasn't even, my comment wasn't even as much on the pin setup as it is just like the design of the golf course, right? The green sit first, right? There's just not, it's not accessible, which is a feature of the golf course. Like I'm not saying it, you know, it's apples, or it's not accessible which is a feature of the golf course like I'm not saying it you know it's apples or it's you know Potato potato it's not like it's right it's not like it's wrong it's just like here's the challenge we have perched up greens here you know how can you you know can you test can we test your
Starting point is 00:30:36 skill of hitting it high and be able to hold them and do all these different things and no one can do it for 18 straight holes and that's what's interesting is like a big part of the test here is how you scramble and how you get up and down and do you leave yourself in the right spots? Do you leave yourself green to work with? Because as we've seen, there are some ass spots. Like you can miss in the wrong spot. I almost no golfer, literally except for Corey Conner's, do I recall not seeing just being in a spot that was like, oh, well, he's toast.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Like he's Brooks, the very first hole. Worry hasn't even done dropping yet. And Brooks is hitting about five yards in front of him out of the bunker on the 10th hole and making double out of it. Sandy area. The sandy area. Right. People are out there. I mean, it's one course that's you're completely exposed
Starting point is 00:31:19 everywhere you go. So not just perched up grains, but perched up fairways, perched up teas. You're above the dunes almost the entire time. So there's no place to hide from the wind. Yeah, people were mad about sandy areas being overused. Like, come on. What are they supposed to say?
Starting point is 00:31:33 You can't say bunker. You can't say sand because then people are going to think bunker. You got to remember some people tune into this that aren't watching golf week after week. And they probably turn it on after work. And yeah, I don't know. I can play it about a lot. I'm not complaining about sandy areas. Yeah, I think we've been conditioned by the masters for dumb
Starting point is 00:31:50 vernacular for long enough. Cody, did you see anybody not raking their bunkers or the sandy areas today? As a courtesy to the other guy. Did you see anybody? Yeah. No, I see everybody's everybody's gone and not that they are. Leave everybody's out there leaving no trace. I think that's dumb, man. Like, do you want to win or not? There's no way I'm raking after I'm done. I do apologize in the preview for saying there'd be no rakes out there, Randy, because they're way more than I thought, but there are some spots where they're not raking. And JT almost sounded, JT was in a bunker on three or two and left of the fairway and he was like, are there no rakes here?
Starting point is 00:32:30 Like I'm in a footprint. And that seemed to be a surprise to him, but. I love it, I love it. It, it would be a lot for a 156 person feel with that much sand to just not rake it because by the end of the day, like that is such a bad, that's a, I know everyone's gotta go through it and gotta play at the end of the day at some point,
Starting point is 00:32:49 but that would mean, it could potentially really bunch things come weekend where guys that are, you know, the last offer almost guaranteed to be in footprints if they hit it in the sand. I feel like we should talk about the 18th hole. Oh God. Cody, take us there's what's the report on the ground on the everybody blown into the grandstands
Starting point is 00:33:10 yes godby chef almost killed me man that's right over my head and for anybody who didn't get to watch to set the table basically they they move the tee up thirty yards on eighteen because a lot of the a lot of the pros were hitting some, some metals into the, into the green. I guess I didn't like that. So they, they moved the tee up and now the grandstands are even more in play, which means it's a pretty obvious play that,
Starting point is 00:33:38 you know, to avoid those death bunkers on the right hand side and the marsh and all the shit that's up the right. Guys are just absolutely blowing it into the grandstands, taking a drop in some very nice, mad at down rough over there, with a great angle into the green. Cody's that pretty much sum it up. No, that's completely true. I even went back and stood by 18T
Starting point is 00:33:59 just to kind of overhear conversations and literal conversations of, oh yeah, just aim it up that left side and we'll be good to go. So I know. The quote of the day, maybe from Keigh Bradley, you said, quote, I hope the fans over there have helmets on because there's going to be a lot more of this going on. What's everybody doing a pre-Fore call? Like, you know, hey, for a name and write it at you. No. Oh, you know how the four calls out out here anyway. They're just like four. I can't hear them. Nobody hears them, you know, 300 yards up there.
Starting point is 00:34:32 We need big shop Bob McIntyre getting people's, getting people's grills about that. I know that was a part of his, his due diligence. Let me ask a group. Let me ask a group. What do you think of that? And in all honesty, it seems a little scummy, right? Like, what can be done about it? I tweeted like the TIO, it's ludicrous to give free relief to TIO. It's going to be absolutely insane if somebody has a two shot lead on the 72nd hold this tournament and they go and just say,
Starting point is 00:35:02 all right, aim it left. Like, we can't, you can't get a penalty over there. Like, you can't. Like, you're gonna get a free drop, right? That you know exactly we're gonna be dropping. And I'm almost gonna guarantee you we can make five from there. Like, that's gonna suck. Like, part of the challenge of that tee shot is,
Starting point is 00:35:17 there's trouble left and there's trouble right. And there's nothing good right to begin with. And pros are always looking for a safe place to hit a ball. They're looking for a bumper, they're looking for a mound, they're looking for anything that's going to bound a ball towards where they want it to go. And you give them an entire bumper up the whole left side of the whole on the final hole of the championship. Like what is going on here?
Starting point is 00:35:37 This is ridiculous. It's not safe for the fans that are there. It ruins the point of challenging the players. And I see some people on Twitter saying, well, everyone's got to play it. It's the same for everyone. It's like, all right, you follow that logic far enough. Like you're playing putt putt for this championship, right? Oh, yeah. Like everyone's got to play it. Like that's the championship. The idea here is to test people in a unique way. I had a player walk off the course this morning and just say, by the way,
Starting point is 00:36:01 18th hole is cheating. Like if you, you can play left and you can totally cheat it. You can just say, by the way, 18th hole is cheating. Like if you could play left, then you can totally cheat it. You could totally cheat it. And it was just like, whoa, that's kind of jarring because it doesn't stick out that much on TV because they don't, unless you're watching a featured hole on the 18th hole, you're kind of relying on them to, you know, pop in every now and then and show somebody taking the drop relief from it.
Starting point is 00:36:19 But gosh, they did show enough balls that were just peppering those left stands and getting a free drop, right? And some really easy rough It's not it's not a guaranteed par from there like I don't know if that's the best strategy on the whole But you're better off going left and right and that is something that I don't know what they can do now though They're they're in too deep you can't change the rule You can't I don't think you can change the drop area because you got to let at least let the players get through the second wave
Starting point is 00:36:41 I don't think it can change it for the weekend, but it might be stuck on it and it's not a good look for the 72nd hole. Listen, I'd tell you, if they want to put up like some in-course OB on the weekend, God, I would be all for that. I mean, so what do you want them to move the team back to where it was earlier? Have these poor guys getting three wood in the 18th. Yeah, I mean, think about it though. Think about we don't want that. Oh, why would you drive? We're drivers. Yeah, be three shot for some of those guys. We can't have them doing that.
Starting point is 00:37:14 I got. Yeah, I mean, those guys, if you put five on the number five on the whole, they would have no problem putting the team back there, but you call it a par four, and they can't fathom possibly hitting lumber into it, even though it has absolutely zero impact on the championship. You can make it a part eight or a part two. They will have the same exact effect on every single player in the field. So I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:37 I'm not saying necessarily the whole is just way better from back there, but just whatever was going on today was not adding up for me. Yeah, I agree. I just don't know what you can do without like a rule change or something, right? Whatever was going on today was not adding up for me. Yeah. I agree. I just don't know what you can do without a rule change or something, right? I mean, without making that a penalty area or making that, you know, no. This is so stupid and it turns pro golf into kind of a clown show. But like, oh, yeah, I don't know. I mean, the tent is there.
Starting point is 00:38:01 I guess you should hit it over it or around it. Like that, like if you were my honest answer, that's what it would be. It's like, yeah, oh, I don't know, man, you shouldn't hit it behind that big fucking building. Like, I don't know what to tell you. Like, the building didn't move. It was, it was there when you hit your shot. Like, you know, but I don't really see that happening.
Starting point is 00:38:18 So I don't, I don't know what to say. It's tough. Like, if I was a player in the field, like, I totally get why they're doing it. It's just kind of blows. This is on set up. This is not on the players. Players can do whatever the hell they want. It's all in balance for them.
Starting point is 00:38:32 It's all a set up thing. And I get it. You want a lot of people around the 72nd hole or the 18th hole of the tournament. But gosh, I just seemed a little bit excessive. But maybe they should say as a courtesy to everybody, you shouldn't have hit it in the grandstands. Maybe that'll get him Aimed differently
Starting point is 00:38:48 Work wonders with the rakes exactly. I can't believe guys are raking. I that's a competitive advantage. I'm not raking Now maybe you know karma comes back around, but that's a chance. I'd be willing to take just Sprinkle in a little chaos I love that guy like you get roughed up in the locker room big. Okay. Can we talk about my pick? How has no one brought this guy up yet? Victor Hovland, the guy insisted,
Starting point is 00:39:15 the guy insisted we talk more about on the preview because we hadn't given him his due yet. He was my pick to win. So I think I know I covered him, but. Unbelievable. What is he? Number six in the world? I can't believe you picked that guy. That's fucking awesome. You looking for a Thursday at crowning or what? Sleeping giant. No one saw this coming. Where were you would solid made this pick? Where were you in
Starting point is 00:39:36 Victor Hoblin Chef 69 and round one? How that? That was a brave pick. How great was the sequence on four? If you didn't get to see it, Victor Havlin hits his ball above just to the right of a kind of pot-ish bunker, the small little bunker that lined the fairway, kind of at right center part of the fairway on four. And he's trying to figure out a stance and they stuck with him,
Starting point is 00:39:59 he has to stuck with him for the whole sequence his whole back and forth, this caddy. Oh, it's so good. They're kind of making jokes about how many clubs he had out of his bag, different shots he was going to pull off. And he just turns to his caddy and he's like, how far is it over the crap? It didn't even register for me that approach has said that, because that's exactly what we would all say to each other
Starting point is 00:40:16 if we're playing. And that's what it feels like when you watch Hovelin, have a conversation. You just feel like you're out with a buddy who is treating it like a normal round of golf on a weekend. And he goes through, like the cat he talks about, you know, doing it nine iron here, do this.
Starting point is 00:40:31 No, I can't get speed on it, blah, blah, blah. And he ends it with, kind of not try this, which of course is met with a really, like a really, this is, we're in a major here. This is the time you want to try something, but it's a pretty good shot, you know, left of the green, whatever, and gets up and down for par. But that whole sequence then he goes in and rakes the bunker himself, which of course, as a courtesy to the San D'Area, the San D'Area apologies, but that that was a great sequence. And gosh, I hope he's around for a
Starting point is 00:40:58 weekend. I think he's going to going to garner a lot of fans if he's around for four days. I think that's extremely well said. I think he is a guy that super hardcore fans know how funny he is to watch, but he hasn't really had like a really big, really big coming out moment, right? And especially leading into the rider cup, especially leading into all this other stuff. I mean, he's gonna be a Mondo superstar, I would think,
Starting point is 00:41:20 and he just needs that moment. So yeah, maybe this week will be it. Nobody would be happier than me, that'd be great. Nobody. Really So yeah, maybe this week will be it. Nobody would be happier than me. That'd be great. Nobody. Really? Well, maybe Sally, but nobody else. LSTJ3 said, who time traveled and told you guys to bet Keegan?
Starting point is 00:41:34 And why were you acting mad about it on the preview pod? A complicated question. A lot of it. It's a lot of it. It's a lot of ways we can go with this question. I mean, Keegan's been playing great golf and he played well here nine years ago Which means a ton of course of course glory today He just hits the shit out of it man like he just he's playing really really good
Starting point is 00:41:55 I didn't even putt well today, which is kind of scary as well I get that that's kind of one of those like it's might be for real negative strokes game putting today He drove the shit out of it. He was number three in Stroke's game off the tee and hit 12 out of 14 fairways. Number one in Stroke's game, Tee to Green, which includes chipping, but gosh, he did pretty much everything. That is of all the models I'm seeing up on that top page,
Starting point is 00:42:17 that's one of the more sustainable ones that I'm seeing. Little more, that may have some staying power. So just don't be surprised if he can stick around a little longer than you. Can you predict where this, where this storm is, is gonna like landfall too many variables right now, the key storm is somewhere off the coast and we're exploring a number of different options. Could be up in the Northeast. Could be the people of Boston.
Starting point is 00:42:39 I know you haven't seen a storm like this in quite a while, but possibly could be time to, you know, make sure you've got some, some some some canned goods, some water, things like that. Um, not only other, not only other name, but a name we haven't talked about enough years so far as Colin Moore, Cal. T8 right now, Miss three very makeable puts in those last five holes went to go look up as putting numbers somehow gained 1.2 strokes on the green today. He's the guy that like, you could watch Putt and be like, what the hell is going on? And then somehow the numbers
Starting point is 00:43:08 tell a totally different story. There's no way to talk about this without bringing up my three favorite words, the eye test. You know, does it pass the eye test? What is your gut tell you? Exactly. Exactly. No, it's, do the shortpots are tough. But as I believe said after Colonial, I mean, it makes for a hell of a compelling story when he gets down the stretch. There's weirdly nothing better, more stressful, more exciting, nothing that whips your eyes to the screen
Starting point is 00:43:41 faster. We always talk about it with Phil. Then when a guy really gets in the hunt, a guy who is notorious for missing short putts, I mean, that makes for an exciting afternoon of watching golf. So a huge more a cow of fan, and again, hope he plays well to you, but yeah,
Starting point is 00:43:56 that's gonna be fun to watch. Is this why we root for speed? Is that what it is? Exactly. For sure. Yeah, but doesn't it more a cow and peat die makes so much sense? Just. Yeah, exactly. You know, a cow and Pete die makes so much sense like just yeah exactly. You know, this is a little longer than a Pete die course that we're used to, but just a demanding
Starting point is 00:44:11 iron test is what I think of when it comes to die. And you know, it's got it's got to have whiffs of concession, right? At least a little bit. A little bit, I'd say, you know, and I loved more a cow of the players and he did not play well with the players. Yeah, honestly, it hasn't played great since concession, but it is just a, an iron, I don't know what to set, what, what to call it. Like we're talking about with the fairways, right? You're not able to create a ton of great angles with your t shots. So you're going to have just iron after iron after iron test.
Starting point is 00:44:42 That is a little uncomfortable. The line might be a little different, you know, the ball might be above or below your feet. You might want to draw one in yet the green is going to promote a fade or something like that. And so for somebody that's a really, really good iron player and it's going to do that over 72 holes. Like he probably should have been a little higher on our radar. Well, it's also a place where you can, as we've mentioned many times now, you can miss an ass spot. And if you're not a guy who misses a lot, like that you're gonna miss it a lot
Starting point is 00:45:07 if you were those spots, right? Amen. All right, what else is jumping out at you guys? What have we not talked about? I had just some random things in my notebook here. Great note from the ESPN broadcast. Tringoli was Boutros, Boutros, Boutros, Boutros, Tringoli was Boutros, Boutros, Boutros, Boutros, Tringoli was playing well early.
Starting point is 00:45:26 DQ twice at PGA's for signing an incorrect scorecard. That's just a wild, wild stat I hadn't heard that before. Shout out to the ESPN guys. For that, I- That'll field promotion or something. You just started three times. Three times you'd never get to play another PGA. Fool be words.
Starting point is 00:45:47 The only thing I was gonna say about the rough, I'm with you, the rough, it negates a lot of the angles. It did make the hovelin shot possible on number four. Otherwise that ball probably runs into the bunker, the way that the course was designed, but that little strip made that shot possible, so that was cool. On that note, I thought the bunker cam on 17 was sick, because weigh in on that different angle,
Starting point is 00:46:07 and I don't know if we want to go into any telecast stuff, but I thought CBS, ESPN product was fantastic today, loved watching it. I was weigh in on the ESPN, go ahead, Randy, sorry, I've talked way too much. Well, no, no, no, it's okay. Just to follow up DJ's point, then we can get into the telecast.
Starting point is 00:46:24 I think, you know, Bryson, looking at his stats, well no no it's okay uh... just to follow up de jace point that we can get into the telecast i i think uh... you know bryson looking at a stats i i i think he's lurking uh... or i always get confused lurking or lingering what what's the one gering or the way during lingering or two different he's got bad intentions i think yes exactly uh...
Starting point is 00:46:42 obviously i said i said michael sendelson, the back nine, 32. I think the field average on the back nine was like almost 38. So just to put that perspective was, was very cool. And then guys, no, I can't believe we, I can't believe we ever mentioned this. And it's in my notebook. Of course, it's in my notebook.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Inside the top 20, Mr. Is it is weak? Is it is weak? Best putter on the planet can do the major. I mean, come on. What a story. What do you think? Hell no.
Starting point is 00:47:13 What are we going to sell? Hell no. Is that the story is about Michael Jordan? You know, he's been hanging with Michael Jordan. And totally he's slumped Michael Jordan slumped a star that that's not right. But yeah, I slump buster that that, come on, right? But yeah, I don't know. I mean, come on, Randy, I think you even set it
Starting point is 00:47:30 before he came on. There's, there's arguably, there's very few things, very few things that, if we didn't say somebody just said, who the hell are they talking about? We're talking about Ricky Fowler, of course. Very few things that would make this weekend more fun than Ricky being in the mix after getting the special invitation that apparently a lot of guys get.
Starting point is 00:47:49 I'm all in on that. Of course. It's like you mentioned Phil or Colin or even watching Speedplay, like Ricky being in the hunt on Sunday when you know he's not going to win but it's still fun to get everybody riled up. That's it. That's as good as it gets. there's nothing fun about Ricky playing poorly. Like he's not exactly, he's not interesting enough that, you know, it's great. Oh my god, it's crazy that Ricky's not playing,
Starting point is 00:48:14 right? It's like, no, it, it, there's no story there. Like it's just boring. Like we need him to be around, maybe just for Randy's bits. I don't know exactly what we need, but, uh, yeah, we need that guy around and I'm excited I'm excited again, not the most sustainable model. He can't really get off the tee right now or he's 119th in Stroke's Game off the tee, but Hit played well with the iron today 11th Stroke's Game approach Potted it good. So we'll see who could say who could say One last guy real quick to jump in out, branding grace.
Starting point is 00:48:47 And I know how the hell was he under par there? Around six, seven o'clock. He was, I mean, the wheels had completely fallen off. I completely agree. I mean, I don't know what, I don't know where this golf came from and I don't know when it decided to implode this afternoon, but I mean mean kind of hanging around we'll see you. The other thing is that I thought the auto-flex shaft was illegal. I guess it's not he actually has it in plain as driver this week. You guys know what auto-flex shaft is? This is totally for the listeners of my life. This is patented Korean technology.
Starting point is 00:49:22 So if you if you look at the shaft. Is it the Chinese finger trap? Oh, yeah, it's Oh god, this is wild. The wipiest shaft you've ever seen that comes in like stiff 1x and 2x and I swung at a couple weeks ago and I was like what is what in the world is this? I thought it was the orange whip training aid That's how wipi it is And Brennan Grace has it in play and is just absolutely killing the ball. What does it do? What are the benefits of it?
Starting point is 00:49:51 Again, for the people who go to. Exactly. I mean, I know. I read about it. So, tempo, it makes you slow down, it gets you to very Hadecki like at the top. So, you almost have to like pause because it automatically makes you start casting if you're transitions way too quick. So as long as you set it at the top and come through, I mean, he, the guys that I know that, including one recovering PGA tour player right now, said he had a 30 yard drive just by going to the auto flicks.
Starting point is 00:50:21 So yeah, it's like the way it was explained to me was like the technology behind like a Chinese finger trap, right, where you can like get stuck with. I don't know how to translate directly to that, but just think of it along those lines where it really stiffens at impact, right? And it's given you a kick at the bottom, but it's not like, it doesn't like play or feel stiff. not like it doesn't like play or feel stiff. God, this is a risky risky sentence. Until, until impact or like right at the bottom of your swing. And it's kind of weird to swing.
Starting point is 00:50:52 I've hit one with the Andrew Algood, one of our young hitters has won. And he's been messing around with it. And it is freaky. It doesn't feel right. And it's like a bold, bold play to put one in. I did not realize he had one, but it could be a trend on tour if that reigns legal, but it is a just a full send.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Like he is blowing it by 30, 30 by me and we used to be somewhat in the same realm. And it like I did not know it was in play. I think Adam Scott, I don't know if he has one in play, but I know he was one of the ring leaders with this shaft, I think, but gosh, that's going to be interesting to follow. The weird thing about it is that it only comes in two colors as well. So it comes in rainbow and then bright pink. So big for you. I just want to let you know, I do have one on order and I'm going to put it in the bag.
Starting point is 00:51:41 So as soon as we get together in a couple weeks, I'll gladly let you hit it. Is there an extra long one? Of course. Extra, extra long for the extra, extra stiff chef just for big. That's good. Shout out to these guys being better athletes these days. I love it. Well, that's what I was saying.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Would this be a way to just like not have to do anything, but add a ton of distance? Yeah, because some of us are listening on that. Yeah, I'm in that market if anybody wants to. I mean, I'm pretty sure I saw Terrell, you know, messing around with them this weekend, happy Gilmouring on the range. So we got that done for him. We haven't talked much, Bryson.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Am I wrong in saying Bryson like last couple months, it's gotten a little bit boring. Like, hasn't really given us any flash of play, hasn't really said anything absolutely ridiculous And am I wrong in saying Bryson like last couple months got a little bit boring like Has it really given us any flash of play hasn't really said anything absolutely ridiculous other than seeing UFOs That's pretty sick, but that's pretty normal like that we can expect that yeah, so that's true That's true, but I didn't feel anything when he shot even today. It just felt like I don't know This is not a great golf course for him. It doesn't appear to be. You know, he pounded off the tee, but couldn't really make any puts today.
Starting point is 00:52:51 But yeah, just kind of a boring even part around. I need a little, I need something to make fun of you for or to compliment or to praise or to, you know, rip you on and he's not giving me, not giving us the content right now. Shout out to Max Meltzer in the comments. The, uh, the square root division sign sure it was done. We can rip on that if you wanna talk about that. We can do a lot of fashion stuff. But yeah, I'm kinda with you.
Starting point is 00:53:12 I didn't really feel too much. I think we might be hearing from them by the end of the week. I think he, I don't know. You're on notice. Well, he had to ball really well. Yeah, if, you know. Cody, how big was he in person?
Starting point is 00:53:25 One, one to 10. I thought he was tiny. I mean, what's the big thing about this? No, I mean, he's easy, you know, man. I was like, I see what the people were talking about. Yeah, it was impressive though. You know, I don't like to accuse anybody or anything, but I also know that we're coming up to a Olympics season and telling somebody's about to get accused pretty hard.
Starting point is 00:53:48 So, maybe we're lacking something these days, but I don't know. That reminds me of one of my favorite memes, which is, so it's not insider trading. Somebody that's about to describe insider trading. Exactly. We don't have to go out Bryce in too long. I will never forget getting a text from a swing coach first week back.
Starting point is 00:54:12 When they saw Bryce and for the first time, they said, I, I was quote, a gas and how big Bryce had gotten that, that word is, it's just so good. Oh, it makes me laugh. It's truly the get a load of the look at the size of this lad.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Absolutely in the in awe of the size of this lad. Yeah, yeah. So, but Neil was on this from the get go, right? When he was talking about all this weight gain that was happening like he over a little over a year ago, that's like not going to be sustainable. And Bryson actually talked about that a little bit this week in terms of, you know, when I was in quarantine,
Starting point is 00:54:46 all I could do, all I did was like, get stronger, just put on a weight, blah, blah, and I gained a ton of speed. He's like, I'm still getting stronger, but it's not translating the speed, and I don't know why. And like maintaining that level of fitness and protein and calorie and all that while maintaining
Starting point is 00:55:00 a professional golf schedule week to week, doesn't appear to be, like he not it's not progressing like he's almost Regressing a little bit when it in terms of distance like it's not getting worse and worse and like or better and better and better and better It's still obviously incredible But it's not like the separation that we saw last summer where he was hitting it Forty past some guys, right? I mean, it's still the longest, but it's not like he's separating himself more and more. Yeah. I think those courses that when we came out
Starting point is 00:55:29 at quarantine two set up perfectly for him. I mean, he's kind of exposed now playing in the wind. You didn't see it last year with a June event down at Hilton head. You know, I think that adds a lot to it. But we were screenshotting stuff that was like, dude, this is ridiculous, right? In Rory was walking off golf courses after playing with them being like, I turned a hairy and said,
Starting point is 00:55:53 holy shit, man, this is unbelievable. And it's just starting to regress a little bit. And it's still like an incredible asset, and it's a great skill, and it's going to give them an advantage, you know, just at the start of every tournament, but it's not like blowing me away as much as it was. He was sixth in driving distance today. So not heads and shoulders, you know, first like usually. Right. A couple of the random things I had firing up the notebook. I had firing up the notebook.
Starting point is 00:56:28 I don't know when, like, StuSync, chill. I don't know when. Just chill. I don't know when this is gonna stop, but it's starting to get concerning. Just chill. Just chill. No, no. StuSync, no, Doug.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Just, no. I bet, I bet Kymar to win the players in 2014 and when he won like I've rooted from like six years after that And like I had to sink to win heritage like he's good for like five years in my book like yeah I keep going for even I've got no money on him. I'm like keep going bro. Keep going Seems seems like an absolute great guy. Just you know, just nah Can we talk about beef bailing on the shirt that was scripted for him? Alphan under armor, which yeah, he had so early back down the whole city of Baltimore. It was the story of, you know, maybe the whole nation on Wednesday when he showed up wearing
Starting point is 00:57:19 a shirt like a huge ax on his back. Many people saying it was a tribute to DMX, but and it was scripted for him to wear on Thursday and he didn't come out and apparently had vetoed it before the week had started. But yeah, I had people from the from the tour in my in my mentioned saying like, yeah, that shirt's like not legal. Like logos have to be three by five inches and all this stuff. But gosh, it just seems like, you know, Nike like Nike has the crown for like, hey, it's major week. Let's do some bad shit. And under armor is fun to do bad things. Yes, under armor is just a true hold my beer situation with that shirt because that was an atrocity. It's it's not good. It's not good. I had a couple of shout outs, Rich Beam shot two over and just looks like he's having a fucking blast out there.
Starting point is 00:58:09 I think that's exactly what you want out of your one time major champions, guys who had nice career. He seems like he just rode off into the sunset totally happily. It seems like he has a blast doing sky sports stuff. He's basically a full time broadcaster came out held his own today. He's chipping in. He's making longputs. It looks like he's just having a ball. So that's love. Things you love to see. That was awesome. He missed a shorty on the last to shoot one over. And he bogey the downman par three eighth to.
Starting point is 00:58:39 He bogey's last two to shoot two over. He had a hell of a round going. Do they do a Monday after the PGA, like media lottery or anything? I don't know. You'd absolutely run a train on people that way. What do you mean? There's a visual for you. I didn't realize, just someone in the comments mentioning,
Starting point is 00:58:58 he was commenting on sky before his round also, which is epic. Yeah, I mean, that's just, that's awesome. I love that. A couple. Yeah, I mean, that's just, that's awesome. I love that. A couple other notes. You know, we've been referring to Cam Smith as the Mangy dog. Many people very upset. Multiple separate sources of set that we didn't call them the Dingo.
Starting point is 00:59:17 I think that is a total no brainer. I would sign off on that. Rubber stamp that today. If you guys are down with that, I think Cam Smith as the dingo, I think makes a lot of sense. I have a research what a dingo was. And now I know it's it's kind of like a coyote or it is kind of like a coyote. Indeed. And last thing I think I had was the John Catlin slow play penalty. We got it. Got a chat about that. I mean, first first guy penalized it a major since his eminence,
Starting point is 00:59:45 Guantian Lang. And that was just very interesting to see. Yeah, it's weird how it always ends up being non-PGA tour members that get slapped with the slow-play penalties. But it's amazing how fast the PGA tour players are. They've never gotten penalized in how many years. years like they're just our model for fast pace play and I just thought it was I hated to see I know we've had years and years of peace with no slow play at any majors and I just I hated
Starting point is 01:00:15 Seeing this whisper of one instance pop back up man. I hate seeing that. I hope it's not assigned the things to come but I shout out just a couple people. Sure. Ben Cook, low club pro guy today. I didn't eat a par, 72. Unbelievable. Big, I got a story for you.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Ben Cook is a huge NLU supporter. So come on. Yeah, he's always, I'm usually got the handles on the Instagram account. He's all over at all the time, likes everything, comments. This is a third PGA in a row that he's qualified for a full time teaching professional, uh, I've been up in Michigan. So I'm really, really good for him.
Starting point is 01:00:57 I mean, hopefully I love him even more now. Even I want to give a bigger shout out a true PGA professional. Yeah. That's. Yeah, that's, yeah, that's the look how many do look at the names of the dudes he beat today like seriously. Yeah, like I'm looking at the leaderboard he's hanging right with Cam Smith the the the dingo, the the shlong and Mary Higgs and Scotty Schaffler. What a group. Gain strokes in every category except he barely lost in putting. He kept it up with the best ball strikers in the world today.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Unreal. That's cool. That is cool about the PJ championship. These club pros that go up and we have these stories every year of somebody that does tremendous. I hope that lasted tomorrow. I'm going to get him on the show this Maiden's weekend. Get him to get him talking about playing the course. This weekend is going to make the cut.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Well, I know. I mean, after he plays after, you know, after he plays, see if you want to do a rich beam thing. Exactly. Might not pay as well, but we can ask him. Uh, coverage front ESPN plus, like I mentioned earlier, it was just awesome this morning I couldn't figure out a time to go PI I did my morning shower at two o'clock
Starting point is 01:02:08 this afternoon because I couldn't didn't have time to get up like they were just absolutely vibing they had all these feature group channels it lost team for me once it went to TV I don't know if that's just because I can't watch golf for 12 hours straight I don't know if you guys felt differently but I don't know ESPN just like fresh voices just makes it feel like a major championship and a big deal. And they are covering a big sporting event and not making it about themselves. And that's appreciated in the Gulf world. Two things there.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Here here. Yeah, I fully agree. I love the variety. They had tons of feature groups. I love that feature on the ESPN Plus. And what else was I going? I took a big nap this afternoon. That was, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:52 So it was, it was too much golf. Like a 40 minute app. It was really nice. That's what we were talking about a little bit before we came on. I think for me personally, it's like the fact that this happens at every major where every Thursday afternoon, I get so excited in the morning, have such a good time watching and then you hit that, leaders are on 10, 12, whatever, and you're just very sleepy.
Starting point is 01:03:17 And I think it's gotta be just a byproduct of watching too much golf throughout the day. Nothing can be exciting for that long. Yeah, and you're always struck by what happens in the golf, right? Like this morning off the bat, we have Rory in the shit, we have Brooks in the shit, we have Adam Scott in the shit, and all this stuff going on. And this afternoon just did not have much going on. And so that's not their fault.
Starting point is 01:03:38 But you need a player to make a crazy run, or you need the weather to change, or you need something. I don't think there's anything really to do. That's not their fault. I'm not saying that, but also it's kind of like a, hey, you kept asking for all this coverage, but we didn't think you'd actually do it. We don't want to watch golf golf hours a day. Come on, don't make us sit and do it, no.
Starting point is 01:03:58 No, it's nice to be able to pop in and out. I loved it. Shout out to all the people working hard, making that happen. That is a long, long day. I'm gonna reach out. I'm gonna win it out. I loved it. Shout out to all the people working hard making that happen. Yeah. That is a long, long day. I'm gonna reach out. I'm gonna reach out.
Starting point is 01:04:08 I'm gonna reach out to 40 hour work week just by watching the telecast this week. No doubt. Nothing would count anything else. A couple, sorry, my notebook's very, very thick today. On the telecast front, I thought the wind calibrator was cool. I loved seeing the, you know, it's playing 2 18, but really it's playing 242 like that. Hell yeah, anything that makes me smarter about the golf shot, about the watch. Way in love.
Starting point is 01:04:32 And the flyovers they did of the graphics of the hole that have the wind like going, you know, with most little motion arrows going across the screen, like that makes you feel it, right? Like some of these holes kind of change directions a little bit. And I know they did one with the second hole illustrating that part five that bends to the left and then goes back to the right, showing the wind over top of it and the contours of the green all at once. It was like, dude, if you didn't play that hole, like you just like saw it right there. Like you just experienced the, if you're like Randy,
Starting point is 01:04:58 that also doesn't remember playing the hole, like you got to read it. Now you know what that hole looks like. So, I don't know, that kind of stuff is what you're afforded when you don't do a lot of commercial breaks and they don't do a lot on these big plus. I have a very serious question for you guys. I hope this is okay to bring up on this show. I do need an answer from all of you. Thumbs up, thumbs down. Stephen A. Smith, win, Dessay. I was mega thumbs up. I wish I had more hands.
Starting point is 01:05:25 I wish, yeah, give me four hands. I was already, I was already not vibrant at that point. And that was just kind of really. I mean, that's certainly one way you can go with this. It was a complete 12-6 curveball. I needed it at that part of the broadcast. Yeah, my knees buckle when that one came in. I was so far out in front of it.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Yeah, exactly. these people with that one came in. I was so far out in front of it. Yeah, exactly. Totally tied me up. This is the first of not watching a single bit of the coverage today. I have no clue what you guys are talking about, but I'll find out. Cody, I will say just like here in your reports and, you know, for people on the ground, it makes me, there's a reason we don't go to a lot of majors so we can do these shows and take everything in, but gosh, I kind of want to go to some of these. It made me kind of want to give some boots on the ground.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Yeah, we might need a designated survivor out there at each one of these things. We can't all be posted up here in Jack. Yeah, so. Exactly. I sacrificed myself for it. Randy expects some aloe vera on my expense account because man, it got a little warm and I'm a little red.
Starting point is 01:06:23 So we're saying before we came on, I think it's the sand. it's so white out there. Like it's like holding one of those big reflective, sun, sun tan things. Sand in your ass, exactly, right? Well said, two things, and the notebooks totally empty. Podrick Harrington, one under, that was amazing. Like from the, you know, kind of a stew sink,
Starting point is 01:06:44 like I'm sure many people are like, you know, I'm good I don't need to watch this but totally out of the blue I loved watching that. That was really fun and then the last thing I had something we discussed earlier this week on on Slack, I think was earlier today on Slack Dustin Johnson wearing the blade collar I I kind of think I've my defenses to the collar have been worn down and they're no longer offensive to me whatsoever. It used to be very offensive. Now I think I don't care. I'm, I'm apathetic slash maybe even a little bit in. So here's the risk of that. The blade collar was the Brooks hat of like 2015 or something like that, right?
Starting point is 01:07:22 So are we going to, in 2025 or are are we gonna be like Brooks was right all along with that hat? He nailed it. He nailed it. So you gotta stand firm on these, you gotta be stubborn. Never change your mind on anything. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 01:07:35 That's a sign of weakness. If you ever change your mind, never change your opinion. Even if you're dead raw. So I'm right. Hey, can we get you, can we get you in a blade collar? I have to look. I don't mind the blade collars, but I was just thinking it looks better on a certain body type. Well, that was going to be like, I think Dustin can wear can wear anything.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Yeah. So it did look good on. I would certainly try one. I do. You know, a little birdie say maybe there might be some NLU ones here soon, but really? We're not quite ready for you. Keep it will keep you posted The God I want that to be the takeaway for this. So Ollie just never change your mind never apologize
Starting point is 01:08:20 Someone said the comments I guess someone said the comments. Dig in. Double down. Double down. Dig in. Good stuff, guys. Should we wrap it there? Let's wrap it.
Starting point is 01:08:30 That was fun. It's pizza time for me. Thanks everyone for tuning in. And we will see you back here, same place, same time-ish. The rest of the week. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers.
Starting point is 01:08:43 It's a good night's club. Be the right club today. Yes. Be good right club. Be the right club today. Yeah. That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Expect anything different.
Starting point is 01:09:01 Expect anything different.

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