No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 438: Charles Schwab Challenge Recap

Episode Date: May 31, 2021

Kokrak emerges in Ft. Worth, Spieth fades, as Soly, D.J. and Neil break down the week in golf. We chat about observations from on-site at Colonial, the LPGA Match Play, the Brooks/Bryson video, and everything else from the week.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. great to be back. I missed you for a couple of days there. I know you were off doing something different. Yeah, I was at a private club. I really wanted to talk about it. You were somewhere playing some golf and joining us on the remote line, no stranger to private golf. Young Neil Schuster here to debrief the Charles Schwab challenge in the weekend golf. Neil, how are you? Gentlemen, it's great to be here up here in New Jersey. The short hill sharp is back, baby. Okay.

I just want to shout out the Northeast weather. Stinks Memorial Day weekend, 44 and rainy. Northeast remains undefeated. Happy to be here. Happy to be on the pod. Thanks for having me. I want to shout out the the Christus family. Sounds like your missing family did her over there. Is that right? I am. I'm asking to keep it down with the pots and pans. You know, quickly becoming the product with schnitz. But here I am up in the up of the study, just trying to just try to do my job, you know, just a bell check night for me. You know, everybody this past year, man, everyone's working for Pope, you know, it's an adjustment.

It's tough. It's an adjustment. Question for you guys, Ralph the Bat. Did you know that Odyssey is the number one putter on tour? For sure. I know you knew that. That's it. That's it.

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It's got such a soft insert in the face. Many people are calling it the silencer. For sure. It's catching on everywhere. So what are you gaming these days? I have a two-long Atlanta. Okay. Not great for this ad read, but you know, same idea.

Same family. And Neil, do you, which arm lock are you in or what's your Amazon date? Well, don't put that slander on me. I did I've been testing. You know, I'm a saddle with the R1 cutter as a training aid as a training aid. They do offer that at Odyssey golf. But I'm I'm using the the stroke lab 7 still love that setup went back to Keisha and we've we've been

getting along really well the last couple weeks. So thank you for asking. So between the types of inserts, to the shape options, even the styles of Haasels, you can get the number one putter and golf as you cover. Take a look at all the offerings at OdysseyGolf.com. That's OdysseyGolf.com. Guys, I'm not going to lie. I had speed number one in the agenda, expecting today to go a little bit different. And then he hit a second shot on number one.

And then from the beginning, it did not at any any point, feel like it was going to be a speed day. So we're going to not start with speed. We are not going to have any poker puns at all, but we are going all in on Jason Cocrack, the winner of the Charles Schwab challenge. Tom Kronin, Terp 88 asked, can you name a better golfer than Jason Cocrack, who also has three Ks in his last name? I got off the top of that.

Absolutely nothing. He might be the greatest of all time. I'm sure some of those cooperate. But the greatest golfer of all time with three Ks in his name, just something for you to think about in this deck. I got nothing. I was gonna say Kevin Kisner, but that's only two Ks. Jason Co-Crac, DJ and I were actually on site

for a couple of days this past week. We got to see a decent amount of Co-Crac this past week. It did. He was just, he was bullying of co-crack this past week. It did. He was just, he was bullying the table right from the get-go. He made his way to the final table and wants to become a heads up match-up situation. We're saying, but thank God for alternative realities where you can make your own inside jokes

because between match-play situation and the co-crack poker puns, that was about most of the excitement that we had on this Sunday. That was, I'm going to start on the positive note and just give massive ups to Jason Copic. Jason Copic, I think he has been a much better player than people realize over the last couple of years. I mean, man, that was, I think the first time I ever watched him play in person.

And a lot of that's just, you know, we haven't been out to events in a while. But other than that, before that, you know, he just never really was on the radar. And God damn, he hits never really was on the radar and God damn, he hits the ball hard. So hard like it. We're we both kind of looked at each other when you know, a couple of those drives popped off the face. It was just it's another gear, man, and couple that with the fact that he's pretty much, you know, brought his putting back from the dead. That's a hard person to beat when he's on. You know, a couple stats, always like to come prepared with the stats. He's seventh in Strokes game putting this here. Has not been inside the top 100 since 2014 before that. And that's what happens. I mean, when you find something off the driver, you start bullying the Strokes game off the tee,

and then you're able to roll it well as well. There's we're going to see more of these weeks. I was impressed slash maybe the one weakness and I hate to point out a weakness if we're talking about just one, but he hits the same shot. He hits a draw on high a straw on on almost every hole. And, you know, even if it's the hole is requiring a left to right, you know, kind of looks like it should favor left to right. So that on 17 on saw that on two when we were out there watching he just hits a draw around that corner, which, you know, with some uncomfortable pins coming in, I forget what hole that was maybe

15, the back right pin on 15, back right on 17. Did not look like a great setup for him. And you know, I was surprised on 16 with the front left pin, all I had to do was hit the center of that green. He's going to win that golf tournament easily. Listen, he ended up winning. Maybe because Speed couldn't find the club face, but just the left pin should have looked really, really intriguing to him, because he, everything he

hits is a draw. And I'm in on the practice swing routine. Like, I, because I walk off so many shots, just wondering like, what happened there? Like, why did I make a horrible swing? And doesn't making like two swings exactly like with the rhythm that you want to have right before you make a swing? Doesn't that make a lot of sense? Yeah, I would also add that it's fitting for him. I mean, he's a total unit.

I mean, he's just a big boy and he makes it look really easy off the tee. So I felt like he was in the fairway all day, pretty much all week. And it, you know, golf's easy from the fairway. It feels like, but I think you guys are right about the, kind of the approach game. You just hitting those high draws. Like, you know, there's probably a lot of places that's not going to set up very well for you. Would think colonial. It wouldn't set up very well for,

but you know, it doesn't seem to matter this week. I think he's like the prototypical player. I remember the first time I think we went out to colonial and, you know, we did a bunch of interviews and we were doing a bunch, you know, kind of the video people may or may not have seen on our YouTube channel a couple years ago, kind of like the history of the tournament and talking to a bunch of members and the grounds crew and people like that. And you know, you hear the same thing from a lot of people about Colonial. It's like, oh, it's a ball striker's place. You know, you got to work the ball. You got to do all these things. Hogan's alley, you know, it's, it's all those different things.

And then there was one guy I remember vividly, Mike ball, who we saw actually very briefly this week. He was doing first T announcing former club champion. And he seemed like he was almost, you know, kind of the only guy who was like, yeah, you know what, man, the world we're living in, these guys can just blow it over all the corners. Now and watching Jason Cograg play a couple of those holes. I mean, it was like, dude, this is, this is not the same golf course it was in 1971. You know, these guys, like to your point, Neil, it maybe doesn't seem like it can fit

until you watch them hit T-shots over the corners and have these little flip wedges in. And it's just like, man, this place has kind of been brought to its knees. It's interesting still, the course is almost broken by technology and it presents a different challenge, right? Where these guys are landing balls are not where the dog legs are anymore. So it becomes like, hey, can you get it over this tree and over this corner and hold the fairway? On the right side of the line.

As soon as the ball comes off the club face, like, oh, got stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. It makes the fairways a lot narrower, I think when you're coming in on those angles, totally. And that's something I really probably couldn't have had appreciation for just watching on TV, like going out and watching some golf. I love going to T-Boxes, you and I spend a lot of time

on T-Boxes just watching lines, guys, take, and things like that. And yeah, it may not, you know, the second hole, quote unquote, requires a fade. And a lot of guys were not hitting fades because they can just kind of do whatever they want with the ball, but it, you know, it clearly dictates that you need if you want driver you have to take a totally different line than what the fairway is presenting and

It does become driver wedge at that point and coke I hit 41 of 56 fairways cutting almost all the corners That's so many was fourth in the field and in fairways hit Yeah, I think he he's like I said up for not a minute first in the first in the field It's strobe skating off the tee and seventh and putting. It's like that's that's going to be a hard get a beat. And you know, he basically boat raised everybody except spieth and you know, that's no surprise. Question putting wise. I'll know if you guys know the answer. Has he always putted a left hand low or is that new? Because it looks like a really smooth stroke. And I wonder if that if he changed his stroke, like what what can stroke, and I wonder if that maybe changed the stroke.

Like what can you attribute the increase in putting stats to? I'm glad you asked, because it actually can justify my getting in the archives and reading some Jason Cochrane transcripts. He, I believe he kept his stroke the same. He just went to a longer putter. Like he was talking about how he went and got with the Betnardy guys,

and they put a bunch, like they put almost too much loft according to him. They put too much loft on the putter and he was kind of dealing with that for a couple of years, I think. And then he went and saw someone else and I think they basically just said, you know, at, you know, now he has a 36 inch putter. Like don't change anything you're doing. Your stroke is great. Just add a little more length. So you don't have to hunch over quite as much. As you said, he's an absolute unit. And now this year, and I think probably, the second half of last year,

I think he's been pretty fucking dialled on the greens. So second win is scary, can I? We're scary. I mean, I know they noted it a lot, but when's it happen in the fall, sometimes get forgotten by people. You want to get to a really good field that shadow creek. In Vegas, home game models were off the charts

and you know, the kind of the home of poker, like who could say that the home field advantage was enormous there? I thought the deck was stacked into favor. Ian Baker Fincher, I think it was, was Ian Baker Fincher, maybe his novel on the broadcast had a great point about, you know, that event being moved from Korea

to right in his backyard, you know, like what a, what a ball bounce in the right way for you. And so not only that, he gets, he's one of these rare guys. They mentioned it a couple of times. He's now got his first two wins came after the age of 35, which is super rare on the BJ tour of these days. And yeah, just kind of interesting, man, when a big time premiere event,

like the Zozo moves from halfway around the world to right in your backyard. And there's no fans and you just it's a totally different way to kind of claim that first win. And I got to think that helped him a ton today, which that was CJ Cup that moved right to Vegas. He won the CJ Cup at Shadow Creek. The Zozo moved to Sherwood. Yeah.

Just to keep the haters. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. You know, the point stands. The point does stand. And yeah, it's I'm trying to try to try to go somewhere poker with this. And I think I'm out. I think I find that I would imagine the CJ corporation owns casino. They own they own everything. So you've got Jason Co. Crack to two time winner this year, this season, I should say, Stu Sink. And there is there one more?

Bryson. Bryson. Those are our three multi three multiple winners this season, I should say Stu Sink. And there is there one more? Bryson. Bryson. Those are our three multi. Three multiple winners this season, which everybody had predicted. Yeah, I wonder what the parlay on that was. If you pack into the gambling puns. Did it? I know.

So the CBS was scheduled to go off there at 6.30 today, which was less than four hours after the first T-time. So already tight window. The rolling credits treatment for him before he hold out on 18, one question interview afterward. Do you think they do that if it's speed that wins? Hmm.

I'm gonna, this might be a true, I don't know how TV contracts work. Right. I don't know. Well up here in New Jersey, they cut to the local news. It wasn't straight into 60 minutes. So no, so I would have thought there would be a buffer

So my answer to you saw is I don't think they do that to speak Hmm, tough last thing I had about coke rack. He maybe it's the walk, mate I don't want to get Neil back in the Billie Jean territory here for a couple months ago, but he's an uptown boy He just he seems like he's got a ton of confidence Like I know you have to of course you have to have a ton of confidence to play on the PJ tour, but I don't know, man. He, from someone who I would have looked at a couple years ago on a PJ tour range, and just been like, oh, that guy has no chance.

Like, he doesn't, he doesn't look like he feels that way, you know? That someone stuck out to me too, watching him in person was very much of, you know, as much as you can pick up on this, these kind of things in between shots, but just someone that carries himself with, I know what I'm doing. Like I don't really care about all this noise

going on around me, I don't really care. All this speed stuff really isn't gonna bother me. I'm gonna play my exact game, my exact shot. And it just, he just looked like a veteran out there. He looked like a guy that everyone else was trying to be. And I know it's a week that he played great in one of the tournament, but it was truly coincidence that we got to watch so much of him

and the first couple of days, but I was extremely impressed. It just felt like, oh yeah, that looks like the best player in the field. So I've been saying it for years. I've been saying it for years. He carries himself like a rock star. Oh, push back on one thing, though, Sally. I don't know if everybody else out there wants to be him.

That's my whole point. That's my whole Billy Joel point. Okay. It's like he's a bona fide rock star. Co-cracts a bona fide winner. You know, he's dog tendencies. He's out here winning twice in a year or in a season. But I, you know, I don't know if any of those guys are trying to trade places with him.

This was such a tipped ball. Neal's going the other way with it now. Maybe band horns up. Let's go. Let's play. Let's play as I pull it up. Neal's going the other way with it. Come on, baby. Bad horns up. Let's go. Let's play. Let's play as I pull it up. I don't know the answer to this. Jason Cuckrat career earnings.

God, he's been on tour. He hasn't lost his card for a very long time. You can see my screen. I haven't seen. I'm not liking it. I'm gonna guess 26 million. 200. How many starts?

280. 30. 25 a year for probably seven, eight, nine years now. I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'll take the under on your salary. I'll say 20,000,000 even. I'll say 28. We were not close. It was 16.6 heading into today.

So I think he's probably 17.7 or something around there. Probably right on with the FedEx Cup bonus money. I would have thought that would have been more, but because there's so much money on the tour. Is it time to eulogize Jordan's piece? It's over. We had a great run. You know, it's all over.

Before we do that, I'm really upset that it took 15 minutes into this pod. No one mentioned to think. No one said anything about this. That your boy picked Jason Cochrack to win the tournament this week. Well, we just got done talking to how good he is. He hasn't missed a cut since November.

It's just an obvious pick. A winner play, 15 nuggets, the new draft king, and no one brings it up. I have to beg you to bring it up 15 minutes into this show. We're all so distracted. We got a scandal. Yeah, we're so just going on the house. It's a house divided, you know, the the shop jacks beach. Uh, Tron Carter's been exiled. We'll get into that tomorrow. Uh, but congratulations

on that was a great pick. Also, you picked, uh, you had a couple other guys. Charlie Hoffman and Polter. You had a, you had a good lineup this week. I did. Uh, was totally and completely sober when we made those picks on Monday. I did. It was totally and completely sober when we made those picks on Monday too. I straight up do not remember making my picks. The boy said a day of a day. But the Draft King Sportsbook is not only my favorite sportsbook, but it's also America's top rated sportsbook.

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And you know, many people are writing in, asking what's going to happen with Tron Carter, you know, illegally and improperly reporting that he hit a parlay last week. Let me head you off. This is an ongoing investigation. There's not much we can discuss. What we can't tell you is that Tron Lied, uh, he's an habitual lie. He completely, he said that he hit a massive parlay. Well,

he didn't, uh, and this is now the third or fourth violation. And I think the committee is going to have to look very unfavorably about him. Yeah. Yeah. It's a bit of a Patrick Reed situation. I said it's a match play situation. It's not really. It's a Patrick Reed situation where he's been said it's a match play situation. That's not really. It's a Patrick Reed situation where he's been caught once, you know, the trainer act went into effect once ago. This the second known time. No, I caught him a third time when he was adding is, you know, his, his, his, his bed amount

to the winning amount too. He was improperly juicing his winnings. It never goes the opposite direction. It's concerning. It's very concerning. The, the commission is, is, will release their findings tomorrow from what I'm hearing. is winning. It never goes the opposite direction. It's concerning. It's very concerning. The commission is, is we'll release their findings tomorrow from what I'm hearing. I'm hearing that might get delayed. I think there'll be an update tomorrow. We'll know more tomorrow, but I'm hearing the committee

might not have everything in conclusion by tomorrow. So the shoved Jack's beach. The shoved the sawgrass show. Oh, on the Jordan's beef note, kind of mixed opinion on this week. It went, it felt incredibly normal to watch him contend and now contend pretty much every time he teased it up. Yet it's a very stinky taste that got left in our mouths. I was, it was a concerning note on the range within was Cameron McCormick on a Sunday before he teed off, which I know Cameron's obviously local and Dallas,

nearby close to Fort Worth, but it is not always a good sign when your swing coaches out there on a Sunday. And he had in his own words nothing on this day. And it showed from the get go. He had a good quote on, I think it was either Friday or Saturday where he basically said, I've done tens of thousands of swings the wrong way. It's not just going to flip back immediately.

Like I'm undoing a lot of work. And so that's my takeaway. And not to sound like, you know, the massive speed homer that I most definitely am, but it's like, if you're looking at this event, you know, weeks from now, months from now, I don't think the takeaway or the big trend is, oh my God, he just failed to close.

I think it's like, he keeps putting himself in contention. Of course, he's not going to win him all. He looked fucking horrible today. I mean, it was totally, totally lost. But I think do a little bit of work. Get ready for, I know he's playing memorial. This week, he's going to have that's going to go on a much more demanding test that might not be great unless it clicks back immediately.

But hopefully do a little bit of work and get ready for the US Open. I think we've still seen nothing, but not nothing but positives, but more positives than negatives. I would say it, I think I said something to the group mid-round, I was like, you know what, Jordan shouldn't win this. Like he's still got some shit to work through. He should've donated it to charity,

if he would've been able to go. Well, that's because you've got a co-crack. That's probably too. That's probably it too, but it didn't seem like he deserved, you know, I don't think Jordan takes it this way, but it didn't seem like he deserved, you know, I don't think Jordan takes it this way, but it's almost like if he'd have won today, that kind of masks some still stuff that's just underlying there.

Now, I think you and I were both extremely impressed with how he drove it in person. And watching it, I mean, it's, I've got, when someone shoots 63, like, of course, it's going to look good, but it looked really good on Thursday. It was, that was a proper, proper round of golf. And I know he did not hit very many fairways this week, but he was 16th in the Stroke Skiing Off the T. And it just, it was peers. The win was out there a little bit on Thursday

and he was hitting it straight through that win. It's kind of low, but it just has this carry to it. It doesn't fall out of the sky. It just kind of keeps going and going. It was shaping it with fairways. And I just don't, I've seen him play a decent amount of golf and I don't recall him hitting it like that. It's definitely stuck out to me.

And he just, he had a way, I mean, it's a home, almost a home game, practically a home game. The models were off the charts this week, but he had a way with the crowd that was, the first thing we did when DJ and I got on site was went out and followed that group. And we're like, oh yeah, there's kind of a lot of people out there. And then next day we went and followed a different group and we're like, oh, yeah, there's kind of a lot of people out there. And then next day, we went and followed a different group and we're like, oh, that was a

big crowd yesterday. I kind of forgot that there's not a lot else going on out here in terms of, you know, the big, big guys that have that much of a pull. And yeah, it was, there was an energy about it. And it helps when we were chipping in and hoeing putts from everywhere and shooting 63. But we walked away kind of pretty gleeful on Thursday. Yeah, I mean, again, like if you're zooming out, it was really bad today, but if you're zooming out, I think you go back to Torrey Pines where he missed the cut. I know he was

super frustrated. I missed the cut at Torrey Pines. Since then, T4, T3, T15, T4, T48, T9, first T3, T9, T30. Like I mean, he's still the most consistent player in the world right now over the last couple of months, right? And it's, uh, I don't know. I think it's gonna. I'm not worried. I think it's gonna snap back. But it was bad. Yeah. But I was kid on the record. It was bad. I would say, you know, he take away the shot he hit on 18 in the water, trying to be a hero. It was bad way before that. I know it was but he's still He's he's trying to win the tournament. He's got he's within one stroke of the lead with his D maybe F game today Right like no, we're not sounding the alarm. Yeah, okay, like the comeback is is alive and well America loves to come back

You know, he's the man of the people and I know he said while we're out there. He is truly the kid He's the kid for the people. And you know, he said, well, we're out there. He is truly the kid. He's the kid. He's the kid. For sure, people ride for him. It's unbelievable. He's so relatable. Like, he gives me hope. Him coming back from the wilderness.

It's unbelievable. So this is part of the process. And if he can basically come in second, playing like dog shit, I think we're on the right trajectory here. Jack French 1427 said winner lose today is speed the best player in the world. He asked this this morning before he did in fact lose decidedly. I so data golf would say so far in 2021 that Jordan speed is the best player in the

world. He is gained the most strokes again, you know, relative to the field in 2021. Yeah, I don't know who the number one is, but I don't feel right saying that he's the best player in the world. Mainly because I know he's capable of better golf than he's even playing. It kind of feels like there's a bunch of guys pulling within the margin of error right now, right?

Like there's no clear front runner, who's the best player in the world just feels like there's three or four guys that are all kind of, you know, depending which pollster you're trusting, you know, any of those guys could technically be leading the race right now. I'd love to get data golf models on who the kid is. I don't even know who else is contending right now. I know.

I like to get, we need to make a power raking of who's the kid, Stroke's game being the kid. I feel like it was, I'm trying to think it was certainly Rory was the first probably post tiger kid. I feel like it was I'm trying to think it was certainly Rory was the first probably post tiger kid. And then I honestly would say it was it was probably my being the argument right now. I think he's maybe in the argument. I don't think he's ever quite taken the kid. Yeah, but he's a kid. He's a kid. I think it was Rory. And then I think I think maybe Ricky took it over for a little while. I think Ricky was a bit was the kid for a minute. And then I think since 2015, I think it's,

there's only been one kid. I think it's Jordan is the kid. See, it made so much sense to me with Jordan being the kid. But now with all that, you just describe, I have no idea what the kid is. We're going to have to unpack that. We'll think on that for a little while. It made total sense. We're out there. Like he's the kid. Like clearly, right? Oh, what it is. I see, I see someone walk like a 58 year old guy walking through the gates just like, come on, let's go watch the kid. Where's the what holds the kid on? That there'd be no

mistaking like this week that they're talking about George. But anything else, DJ, anything else you have from on site, you know, from this past week, any big takeaways. Kind of conjecture, but just from watching, I mean, obviously they got a ton of rain. One of the things that made colonial really look really unfun for me to play, but I thought was really interesting to watch pro's play was the rough out there. And for a couple of different reasons, I think one, when that super long, but not real thick bermuda gets really wet, It just feels like there's, it's nothing but question marks.

You know, like watching some of those guys try to, when you miss, it was interesting. I think like we saw it with Speed's group a little bit on Thursday and a couple other guys on Friday when it started raining again. But especially when you're blowing over the corners like that, some of those little like 60, 70 yard pitch shots

from the rough, like you just don't know how they're gonna come out of there. You don't know if the club's gonna catch mud on the bottom. You don't know if they're gonna come out of there. You don't know if the club's gonna catch mud on the bottom. You don't know if you're gonna catch a flyer. You don't know if they're sitting out, you know, if they're sitting up. It just was really interesting to watch. And I thought you saw it today too, like with where Cokerax ball landed on 17 when he missed the green by a mile.

And it's just kind of sitting in this perfect spot. And you saw it with speed when you were sitting down a couple of times, like the stuff is just very, like it's very interestingly, interestingly inconsistent. You know what I mean? Like you just don't know what you're going to get, which I think is a really cool penalty. Yeah, it's a guessing game. It is, it's helped by the fact that a lot of times guys are hitting wedges out of it. So a couple of lies I saw, I was just like, oh my god, where's the ball? But even you saw that on, was that spiethon 15?

He was hitting, he was between those bunkers and the ball's kind of sitting down, doesn't know how it's gonna come out. Yes, let's toast. 50 yard short. Right, the green. So watching, we had watched Phil once this week and he literally couldn't see the ball

and he just like slides away. He switches clubs once and slides away at gender and lands on the green holds it. It was just like, dude, that is just a, again, a shot on TV. I would not have fully appreciated, but a big thing for me was like watching. This is no offense, meaning these guys were in back-to-back groups, but the difference in how I hate overgeneralizing one, how far guys hit it to how good these guys are. But that was a huge takeaway from somebody who's been to a lot

of golf tournaments. You have been to a ton of golf terms way more than I have DJ. It's still was jarring to me just to watch how good the best players in the world's hit it. And we play decent amount of golf with pros of various levels around here. And it is a total separation thing at the very top level. And I mean watching the group of Ryan Palmer and Kevin Kisner back to back against co-crack and Fino, of just like, oh, okay, that is how the best in the world hit it. Like those two, how they struck it on that T-Box that we're on number four, just really rang in my ears,

like how that sound and that flight and that just total move at the ball. And I think there's a couple of ranges where it gets really exacerbated. Off the tee and anything outside of 200 yards is very like, oh my God, I could have a thousand balls and I will physically never be able to do that. And around the greens, I feel like it's the same way.

And it's interesting like when you play with pros and they're hitting it to 145 yards and they're like, oh yeah, you know, I hit nine iron and I'm like, oh, that's what I would hit. Like that's very relatable. And then like, there's this very relatable middle section. And then there's this totally unrelatable outer sections. And just watching, I mean, watching Finaw drive the ball, watching Coke,

crack drive the ball. It's just like, man, that is another sport. It's, it's so impressive. Yeah. So I've got some questions for you guys being on site. First, one of those last time you're on site. Players. Players.

OK. Players. The players this year and the players last year were like my last two golf tournaments. I've been here. So I'm curious, what was the best golf shot you saw? One specific golf shot that you saw in the two days you're there. Cochrex, four iron or maybe five iron on number four on number four.

Just from the long part three and He had it very similar to how he did today. Yeah, he just he emailed the green today But he had just like this shot looks impossible. It's 247 yards and the green looks too small for a shot of that length And he just like draws an iron in there and holds the green. It was just like, oh, yeah, and on that note, I mean, he's playing kind of around Kevin Kisner and just seeing like Jason Kochrack absolutely hammer a kind of like mid to long iron into that green and then just seeing you know No offense to anyone but seeing Kevin Kisner just kind of like Poof a little like three wood five wood seven wood out there that just has of like, poof a little like three wood, five wood, seven wood.

Out there that just has no, like totally beat up, no chance, like that felt like a different sport too. So it was the juice versus the sauce. It really was. It really was. And co-crack again, he had a three wood on number three, and we got a awesome view right in front of the tee, like almost like looking up at him,

like sitting on the ground right from the right T-Marker. And he just like, just sent this three wood around the corner, like almost like looking up at him, like sitting on the ground, right from the right T-Marker. And he just like just sent this three wood around the corner that I was like, okay, well three wood he's playing out to the right. Like he can't go around the corner with it. And sure enough, he carried the last bunker with three wood. So that's what we mean. Like his is ball striking in person stuck out. I mean, it's again, it might have just been jarring because we haven't seen much golf in person up close, but it really stuck out. I had two other ones. It's like, oh, I know it. This could be one was, I, I loved the seventh

hole. Weirdly, I think every single hole at colonial dog legs, one way or the other, except for the seven and kind of 10, like 10, 17 kind of have like these, these little bends to them, but seven is so concernedingly straight that you've been playing. I love that. Did you've been playing these dog legs? That's a lot of that. You've been playing these dog legs all day and you get to seven. It's just like, all right, now just here's a tiny fairway.

Like, just hit one dead straight. And JT hit this driver that got what? Like 20 feet off the ground, 25 feet off the ground. It was, that was mind blowing. Uh, other one I got to give a shout out to is, uh, 13 is the, uh, the par three over the water. And of course, like, solid, I had maybe an hour to kill late on Thursday. And he's like, all right, I'm going to go watch so and so group. And I'm, I'm looking about at who I'm going to watch. I'm kind of like, all right, well, I want to watch

someone I probably couldn't really like see on TV. I'm like, all right, well, there's the group of Keith Clearwater, Keith Clearwater, Michael Vissacchi, and John Ogginstein, which is a true, yes. That's a true boggle, like, jumble them up in the box, kind of group. Keith Clearwater hit one of the worst shots I've ever seen on 13, hit it just banged it like 50, 60 yards left, like short left on 13, the part three, three hits the hospitality goes way over the green up on the

upslope. He's got this like death defying downhill pit shot gets it up and down. It was unbelievable to remain three over through four. And that's why he's on the wall champions. Exactly. So I got to give that a shout out. That was that was awesome. I love it. Thank you for that. Guy came up to me, you know, not a lot of fans are out of this group and Guy comes up to me and he's like, Hey, you're DJ, right? I was like, yeah. He's like, Who are you watching? I think it looks like you're following this group. Like, who are you following? And I'm like, you know, that's a good question. I think it's just kind of the whole experiment. And I would, as I have many times on this podcast,

would recommend just pick out a group like that, go follow, see how those guys make their- It's the best. Go especially- See how they make their threes, fours, and fives. I mean, it was awesome. And those guys will, like, if you follow them for two, three holes, they'll start to be like, what's this guy doing?

Like, why are you following me? They're like, it's almost not playing well. They're like, get out of here, man. You're not supposed to be like, what's this guy doing? Like, why are you following me? They're like, it's almost not playing well. They're like, get out of here, man. You're not supposed to be here. All right. Next question. Anybody you saw that caught your eye as someone to watch this summer?

And that could be a potential yado candidate or in that's year of the takeover candidate or like a don't forget about me guy. Let's take a question. I mean, it's very, very easy answer, but I like legitimately would have said co-cracked, even if he didn't win the golf tour. He just blew me away, watching him hit the ball.

This, what doesn't answer your question, and I tweeted something about this earlier, because he's really not playing good golf, but like, Cam champ hitting the ball in person was, like I could not have been more prepared to walk. I saw him out, like, ah, I kind of want to see, I've played a pro-am with him. And I was like, all right, I want to go watch him hit some shots. And like, I gasped when he hit an iron off the 70. It was like, whoa, like we're talking about speed, like where it comes from, it just like sneaks up on you.

It's kind of like the, what's the old soprano's line with they're talking about like when you die, like you don't get a chance to hear it because like you're already dead. Like that's what its impact sounds like. It hits the ball before you think you think he should and it just like springs on you And it's just you remember that kid that was watching the Ricky Fowler drive and he's like, oh that scared me So I that doesn't answer your question on somebody to watch but

Yeah, that was a bit of a don't forget about me, you know, totally. Totally. The title belt a little bit. The other one, this is, this is very obvious because everybody's going to be watching this anyways, but I'm so fast and to see what Phil does the rest of this year. Like, he just obviously, you know, didn't have it played, played poorly as, you know, no, I don't think anyone is really expected much from him this week after the week after accomplishing what he accomplished at Kioa, but like on number one on Friday, I mean, he hit it, he hit the trees like 30 yards

off the T-box. Oh my God. Shot-tracker totally juice the stats. It was just like, what the hell, man? Like where did that come from? And yeah, I don't know. I think just watching Phil at what looked like honestly like peak Phil at Kiowa. I mean, he just looked so freaking good.

Uh, it's just really interesting to see if that's going to be like lightning in a bottle or if he's going to be able to channel a little bit of that or just how that's going to go the rest of the year. What a different course though. Oh my god. Totally. To go play, you know, it's like, yeah, they're, I'm kicking myself in a bit. He missed the cut, right?

Yeah, he did. He made it. He made it. He made it charge at the end, but I was like on Thursday, I was like, I got to should have bet of the missed the cut. All right. No, I know he's gassed, but like that also speaks to just the absurdity that he won the PGA last week.

Like that is so completely absurd. We're still not having fully like digested that. All right. next question. Any notable post-shot shouts that made you chuckle? Live golf, we got fans back. What do you got for me? Couple of pre-shot ones. The guy from outside the grounds,

that was on my list. That shouted at Kochrack. He's like, Kochrack standing on 14. There's a dude like there. Important detail, he's by himself. Yeah, he's not with his buddies. Totally, he's like a 17 year old kid, just totally by himself outside the gates.

Well, somebody took claim after I tweeted the story, but that he's just starts yelling like, all in 2020, at Cocrack is better self-chasing. Like Cocrack, 100% heard it, like had to have heard it. And then there's a lot, a lot, a lot of, thanks for coming to Fort Worth, man, that a lot of those in between holes, mostly towards Phil.

Yeah. Which, I'm not worth this awesome. On that note, I'll say, I didn't realize how juiceless the no fan events would have been. Like TV did, I know they felt kind of flat on TV But TV really did such a good job of making them feel as normal as possible Being out there with Jordan when he's leading the golf tournament on a Thursday was like There was legitimate juice out there. It was really really really fun and just looking around out there and thinking like man

We did like six months of having absolutely no fans, like college golf style. We did majors like that. We did all these other events like that, like that sucks. And it totally changed, like it had to change the dynamic of, you know, people in contention and all kinds of things like that. So I'm very glad the fans are back. It was a ton of fun.

And for all the issues we've had with the PGA tour on a variety of subjects, seeing like just over a reminder of what operations is like for them, is just astonishing. Like week to week, this thing picking up and going from event to event, all over the country,

sometimes other countries, all the cables laid, the top tracer, you know, as soon as it started like raining, I was just like, God, imagine like thinking of a rain plan for all of these things. And then you got weather delays. And then you got the track man to those need covered.

And what cameras are waterproof and what's not? And the shuttle, yeah, the shuttle tracer. When do you ever hear of any of those one things going wrong? Oh, the top tracer's down on the 13th hole. That never happens. Hey, we ran out of water on the 15th hole. Like, no one is ever like, we couldn't get any water on the course.

All the operations function seamlessly week to week. And that just blows my mind because that is a logistical headache that I don't even want to think about. We got to feed the media people. Like, we got to give them water. We got to get them coke too. We got to get them diet coke.

Food was good. Food was great. Yeah. So that we gotta give them water. We gotta get them coke too. We gotta get them diet coke. Food was good. Food was great. Yeah. So that- The structure, baby. Yeah. That was one. Good to be back. Yeah.

It was really fun to be in an event. Are we right? I got a couple more. I'm not done yet. Okay. People are dying for us to get to Brooks and Bryce. I know, and I have some things there. I have some takes there. What hole is underrated at Colonial?

And this is outside. I want you outside the horrible horseshoe category. Number nine is kind of fun to watch. Yeah, the whole doesn't really match the rest of the course with the water in front of the green, but the up pin on that one, it's like a part four and a half or part three and a half almost from there. That one's kind of a fun one to go get one. I mentioned seven already. I think eight will be really fun after they redo it. I think they're going to, if anybody can picture eight at colonial, it's kind of,

the par three is a really cool at Colonial and like very, there's some variety to them. Eight and 13, I think, are maybe a little throw away or could use some work. And I think that's part of what they're looking to do with the Gilhance gym Wagner, rest of it, restoration, renovation, whatever they're planning to do. But I think they're going to move that green, like clear out all that shit down by the river and really open up all that room, kind of short left, and move the tea right, move the green left, and that'll be a totally different shot, kind of unlike anything on the golf course. So I mentioned seven already. That would be my answer, but my future answer is going to be number eight.

All right. Last question. Worst outfit slash scripting that you saw this week. Sergio, for sure. Sergio, it's a bad guy. Sergio's pants on Friday were awful. Who had this? I need a chance, sir. Oh, dude, that. They've, last, actually, had some of the worst shoes I've ever seen. I mean, they were like, like, what you, you wouldn't wear them, like, they were,

they were too dirty to like clean up the garage in. Like, they were brown and like, just muddy and dirty. And I don't know what the hell this is. He had going on. Stenson, that's a weird shoes too. Stenson usually looks very, very classic and very dapper. He had just like these kind of like tennis shoe looking things. I was looking at his eyes like, man, that looks like something I had where unfortunately.

Like, that's not a compliment for him. See, that's why you got to go in person. The fashion stuff. Exactly. You got to see the whole thing up close on site and how it's how it's fitting on the guy. So these are great categories We got to keep these in mind for our next visit Billy Horscht was very very proud to be in line with the boys with the beard He wants he wants a spot on the team. I think with the beard. He was shouting shouting that out He said he fitted very well with the no-lying up boys. Okay. All right. Well, we'll consider it

Can we get to the highlight of the week? I know we're leaving some on the table from the Charles Schwab challenge, but I think it's time. It feels like a month ago. This is the issue when something happens on a Monday, when you do a Sunday night podcast. It's six days old at this point. But a video leaked, I know you saw it. If you're listening to this podcast on Monday night,

a lot of energy was spent trying to figure out how it got leaked, which we can get to. I think night, a lot of energy was spent trying to figure out how it got leaked, which we can get to, I think speaks to a lot of this situation, actually. The video, which I believe is from Friday, the Friday round. If I'm remembering right, if I'm judging by the outfits, features Brooks, already, he's already perturbed before the interview starts. He's kind of rolling his eyes off screen. And, you know, is asked a question by Todd Lewis.

He's talking about the putting and struggling to read the Greens and Bryson walks by with his cleats clacking and is mumbling something. And I heard a couple of different theories online. I don't know if this was finally confirmed. I heard people saying he said, you gotta start them online. And then I heard some people saying,

he's talking about his drive on 18. And I tend to believe it was more about the drive on 18. I don't know if there's conclusive evidence on that still. But true who could say I really don't care. And Brooks is just like not here for any of this. Just a blatant disdain on his face before price and even comes into the screen, rolling his eyes, loses train of thoughts. So listen, yeah, sorry, lost fucking lost my train of thought. Listen, listen, that bullshit. Todd Lewis is just cracking up, Brooks, and they're like, yeah, we're gonna fund

in the production truck, Brooks's like, I don't even care. It turns out Brooks requested the video from golf channel to share it with his friends. According to many sources, close to the situation. It was reported by awful announcing that that was the case, which it ends up getting leaked on Twitter. It gets like 10 million views in 24 hours for a copyright claim forced to be taken down.

Then we're not done. The next day, it's announced that Phil and Tom Brady are gonna take on Bryson and Aaron Rogers in the match for and Brooks just tweets out, sorry, bro, at Aaron Rogers. Bryson replies saying how wonderful it is to be rent free, living rent free in his head, post a meme to his Instagram account. Easily the coolest, coolest phrase there is.

Yeah, super creative. Brooks replies with a Snapchat video of Bryson getting pissed at someone called him Brooksie. That was my favorite part. That was really good. And yeah, there was just, now there's just, like it's all out there. There's no stop in this thing.

The tour tried to ignore this thing for like close to a year, but this is a real rivalry. Brooks. No, I disagree, because Bryson said to golf.com enough is enough. Oh, he did. Yeah, I think that put it into it. After just getting his brains beat in, yeah, yeah. I got caught.

I wasn't even racing. I'm calling off my offense here. He didn't beat me. Yeah, wasn't even racing, dude. Brooks just publicly treats Bryson the way the other tour pros do in private. And like, it's like flat out bullying. He requested the video so he can put Bryson on blast.

I don't even know where to start. I wanna give a shout out to the New York Times who quoted, who did some digging and found an interview from 2019 with Brooks on pardon my take where he was talking about how it's so annoying the guys wear metal spikes And I think they only do it so that they can sound really cool when they're walking on the on the car path And so that was you know a bit of an inference by the old gray lady, but you know Bill Pennington a bit of an inference by the old gray lady, but Bill Pennington, making the connection that,

I think he just boiled over here in the cleats on the car path. Shout out to Pennington, what a mess. For sure. I think there was something that Bryson said. So you got to remember that this is, Brooks is speaking to a microphone and Bryson can be heard mumbling something.

It's probably speaking at the same volume, right? So it's pretty easy for Brooks to have gotten distracted by all that. And Bryson should absolutely know that somebody's in a TV interview walking directly by it while talking, it's not something you should do. If that's anybody but Brooks, he probably doesn't do that. I also want to call out though at the beginning of the video,

Bryson is already rolling his eyes, like they're like rolled, bro, sorry, Brooks is already rolling his eyes. Like they're like rolled brook, sorry. Brooks is already rolling his eyes. They're already like in the back of his head because he's doing the interview to begin with. Like he's just like, uh, can't believe I have to do this.

It's like a high schooler. Like, you know, in math class. Like, oh, my God. What are you talking about? Yeah, I don't even care about this shit, you know. And so then he's already he's already in that mind frame. Like in that has that mindset. And then the, the, just, it was just a perfect storm because the one guy that can walk up and really just wreck his, you know, wreck, wreck his mindset is bracing.

And it was, it's perfect. It's unbelievable. So I appreciate Brooks dunking on Bryson. I think it, it makes me like Brooks Moore. And I've been, you know, on the record here on this podcast to say, you know, I kind of want Brooks to pick a lane. It's like, do you not care about anything? Or are you working so hard to get back from your injuries? Like, which is it? You know, like, you're working your ass off or you don't, you know, you don't have to practice. He's kind of stuck in the middle for me. But I really like the, you know, this feud. And I want to talk about how this relates to the PIP stuff

and because I think that's a really interesting thread, but regardless of that, this is making golf a little bit more like WWE, and I'm hurt for that. It's a entertainment product. And that's we've been saying that for years. It's like, if this, and I don't think that's the tours, I don't think that was their goal with this PIP stuff, but you're seeing it, that is, you know,

these feuds are probably gonna start blowing up because that makes stuff go viral and that's gonna get engagement. So it's like an unforeseen consequence a little bit, which I think is like, I think it's awesome. I bet they're worried about it. They probably didn't think it through. I think they, I think they realize they need this stuff. Like they need,

the tour realize that. I don't, I don't think so. I think this is a total, the goal, they're trying to whip the ball down to midfield and releasing it in its own. It reminds me of when I was on sales teams and they would do like a, you know, we're trying to close the gap to hit our number and instead of just like getting people to do their job, they'd be like, okay, if you set up X amount of calls or get this many proposals, we'll give you like a, you know, flight voucher or we'll give you like a thousand dollar Amazon gift card. So what is the, people start gaming the system, they start like, you know, all that like they're basically, they've introduced a goal.

It used to be like a measurement, and now it's a goal, and people are just gonna start working towards like, it's not competition related, right? It's about engagement, so people are gonna gain the system. So instead of like, in the sales example.

But that's good for golf. That's, this is pretty good. I know, but it's not, but I don't think the tour intended for that. This is like an unforeseen consequence. I think you're not saying. I think the intention was fight off the premier golf league, you know, super league golf, all that stuff. I think I'm with you, I'm unintended consequence.

But I also think there were parts of this that were orchestrated and parts of this that were not orchestrated. I think the initial thing was not orchestrated unless Brooks is literally the best actor I've ever seen. Not orchestrated. There's no way. That was all very, very real. I think all the match, you know, kind of the match

jumping on it and like all those guys, I don't, I could be wrong. I don't think those guys are just sitting on the couch like running their own social accounts. I think Brooks is. I agree. I'm more talking about involved in the match. No, talking about Tom Brady and Aaron Rogers and those guys.

I think that stuff was all very like, you know, it would be clever as if we as a team did this. Like, which is fine. Yeah. You know, whatever. But I think it started from these, these things only work when they start from a kernel of like something very organic and very real. And that's what we had. I think. they start from a kernel of something very organic and very real.

And that's what we had, I think. But my point is that the tour rolls out the PIP stuff thinking, oh, we'll get, let's get social. These guys are just going to start tweeting more. And instead, what you're going to see is guys like game in the system, like instead of actually having a proposed, like in the sales example, instead of doing a pitch to somebody, they're gonna start logging phony calls.

You know, it's just because they want the Amazon gift card, you know what I'm saying? It's like, I think they, I think they're gonna start, I don't know, it's funny to me. But the PIP stuff is not a social media contest. And I think it's being classified by that and portrayed by that. And people are like, with every tweet, you know,

it becomes like, yo, is this for a pip? Is this a pip play? Is this pip? And it's like, this is a, what these guys are doing, what these guys have generated is like a very real hype, right? We're not talking about Max Hommaget and a bunch of likes for a good tweet. This is like a showdown.

This is gonna be people outside of golf to talk about, like, will these two golfers are feuding? That is interesting. And so I don't think it's as gameable as a lot of people, you know, think it to be. I don't think, you know, the most interesting guy, I keep falling back on Max. Max is not going to beat Phil Mickelson in the Pipscore, whatever that is. You know, Phil is involved in social media and does his own thing, but like it's more about it overall buzz generation that you get, which is involved in social media and does his own thing, but like, it's more about it overall buzz generation that you get,

which is not isolated to just how good you are at Twitter. You know what I mean? Totally, but I think those things snow well with each other too. To where if this Brooks and Bryson thing, and I'm with you, I don't think this started as like some sort of a play as I'm saying. But they had a showdown on the range like two years ago. But what I'm getting at is like if any of these social media,

once they leave like the realm of social media, then it starts to impact other things, right? Like if it became, you know, we can talk about this in a second, but if the USDA was to pair them in the first two rounds at the US Open, now all of a sudden it's like, all right, now we are talking about the broadcast. Now people are writing about it.

Now all these other impact scores are going to start to be affected. So I agree. It can't, you know, it's not just about Twitter impressions, but I think they can start to have an impact on each other. I'm saying I don't expect to see like other players following suit and like start feuding with people. I do expect to see it. And I think it's going to be really bad. I think it's going to be really bad. I think that that's I don't think that I understand what you're saying that the pip stuff is not just social media, right? But guys are going to say, well, I'm not competing this year. So I might as well make a start making wave somehow.

It they start basically what used to be a, you know, I don't know, they're going to they're going to start working towards something that used to be just a measurement and now it's a goal. It's like, Oh, I have to up my social presence. So I'm just going to start, you know, acting a fool on social media or like, you know, generating a feud. And for the record, I'm here for it. I think it's great because it's, this is an entertainment product. I feel like we've been kind of saying this for a couple of years now. But we probably will see some manufactured, you know, very cringy stuff coming in the next

couple of years as well. And I'm in a bad stuff with that. I'm fine with that. Ron, because like the corporate, the really corporate stuff we know does not get engagement, right? People can see through just like extremely sponsored and just incredibly obvious. This player did not write this tweets and publications, right? That's pretty obvious. At minimum, if we get some cringy, realish stuff,

that's one thing that we can make fun of. Sign me up. And two, it's gonna be much more real engagement to that. I guess I'm out on every single thing that any player's ever do, screaming pip at it, because it's like, dude, it's like, we need to, we need all the entertainment we can get in golf. I don't want to discourage any of this.

Like, getting this pip stuff is all behind a closed door. It's a ring. It's not gonna, it doesn't affect you the viewer. Like, all these people are trying to figure out who's gonna be in the top chain anything. Like, I don't root for people's bank accounts. I like watching the golf. I like interesting stories.

I honestly don't care who wins. But if this means people are more incentivized to steer into some of this stuff, I like watching the golf. I like interesting stories. I honestly don't care who wins. But if this means people are more incentivized to steer into some of this stuff, people do request to be paired with certain people because they want to play, you know, have a show down, they want it this, this, this, that would be interesting to me. A lot more than like who's going to be third on the list.

Let me ask you guys this. We can go around the table on a couple of these, but who are the winners and losers of this? Starting with the winners. I think Brooks, I would say Brooks is a winner of this. Of the Bryson versus, yeah, of just the whole scenario, the whole situation. Brooks and Brooks in the match, Brooks and the match. I'd say Brooks is an obvious winner in it. I don't think Bryson is the obvious loser. And I mean, I agree. Yeah, I don't think Bryson is,

when I said this about the match, we'll get there. Bryson for four hours, Mike Dup, is gonna be tough. It's gonna be a lot. The deflate, whatever tweet he had, you're gonna be as deflated as these balls after we beat you. It's like, that was very much like

Tiger and Fils fake trash talk for 2018. Oh, it's the, you're the links master, Jordan. Yeah. Which is the dumbest running joke, baby, that we have. The fake, the fake text from the open, uh, a couple years ago, between J.T. Ricky and Jordan. Jordan. Jordan.

Jordan. So, yeah, I mean, Bryson is not, he does not want to play this game with Brooks. There's not, he's, doesn't have as many majors. He has more abs than him, of course. But that's literally it. He's not wittier. He is not cooler. He has no shot in this to win over people at all.

So he is, but I don't know why these, these two aren't in a match. Like these two need to settle this. A couple other winners I have. I think the PGA championship becomes a winner just because Brooks is a two time two time champion. I think the PGA championship gets cooler as Brooks gets cooler. I think the USGA slash the US open could be a potential winner if they pair these guys together or if they I think there's going to be more eyeballs yes on the golf tournament if either those guys is in contention, which I think is great.

I think the PJ tour could be a potential winner for the same reason. Also think the PJ tour could be a potential loser in this just because they have avoided this exact type of stuff for so, so long because of the way that their corporate images structured and the sponsors that they attract. And I think that was, I don't think Tim Fincham made a big secret of that.

That was kind of the big thing of why they don't disclose disciplinary measures and all of those things. It was very, very built on like, we don't do that in golf. Golf is, we're class acts. And I think that it's just a really interesting development, right? I think as we keep saying like, man, more of that stuff, more of that stuff, it's so interesting. It's so fun. Look how many people are getting excited about this. It's really going to be interesting to watch how that squares with, you know, the FedExes and the, you know,

all these other people that make huge investments in the tour. You just kind of nailed it for me with that. I think that the PGA tour could be a winner in this, but they kind of fall, they're falling ass backwards into it. Yes. That's my, that was the point I was trying to make earlier of like, they're creating these incentives,

but they don't know the box that they just opened, right? They, they're, which I think is awesome and I'm excited to watch it. So I agree with you, Sally, and that like, this is good overall, but I don't think it's good in like, this isn't the plan. This is how they map it out. And I need, I want to, I just want to point that out. That's fair. I do think that the overall plan included something about with this incentive program, there might be more buzz around golf.

People might be more encouraged to do controversial things. There's no way they didn't think that part through. They made a huge pros and cons when it came to this thing. It's a little bit asked backwards, but I also think a little bit of any kind of news or buzz is good buzz had to be at least part of the pro column. But I think you're giving him too much credit. I mean, I just think back to DJ used to run the freaking social media for the tour. And they'd be like, yeah, let's get to social media idiot in here.

Like, they just, I don't think they realized the power of these platforms sometimes. Well, they probably do. That was a lot of years ago. I was there the whole thing is there five years late to everything. I think they may be they're coming around. Maybe yes. Okay, maybe maybe I'm not cutting them off slack. That's fair. I was saying the whole thing is there five years late to everything. I think they may be they're coming around. Maybe yes. Okay. Maybe maybe I'm not cutting them off slack.

That's fair. Is Bryson playing Memorial? He is, but Brooks is not. Okay. I was going to say the PJ Tours not going to pair them together. No matter what they can't do it now. But wait a way too long. You think the US Open is going to pair them together?

I think they'd be idiotic not to. I am putting out a call not what I'm asking. Do you think they're going to? I think they will. I think they definitely definitely can do a group of the last three US Open Champions. That would be awesome. I don't think.

What do they usually do with raining US Open Champions? I think it's usually defending champion, USAM champ, and the Open Champ maybe, which maybe you can get a, you know, a little bit of a technicality. Like, oh, we didn't have the Open last year, so we're just going with the three rating US Open champions. So it was yeah, last year, I was in, didn't Brooks win the last he won two before that. He, uh, so defend it would win. Gary Woodland would play with would them played with Shane Lowry and Andy Ogletree in 2020. Right. So,

yeah, they would have to, they'd have to, yeah, so now I don't think they will, I think they won't because they would have to go against it. Yeah, they'd have to, so now I don't think they won't, I think they won't, because they would have to go against it. Yeah, they'd have to change it. Would Shane Lowry be in that group again? I would think so, right? I think that'd be an easy out if they said, like, oh, well, we already did that. So this year, we're doing something different

and we're doing Woodland and Brooks and Bryson. Yeah, they're not, they did the, they did the what, what, the overweight pairing? Well, that was a year ago. It was also a lot of years ago, but yeah. That was a lot, like they've done some weird tea time stuff before in the past. So they used to be so, I'm sure most of that team

has moved on, but they used to be so fucking proud of themselves and how clever they were. You get it? Look, all these guys have one syllable last name. Doesn't that funny? Look at these are all the fat guys. Ah, it's great. Wow, come on, we're having fun here.

So to do that and then not do the Brooks and Bryson thing would be chicken shit. Yes, I agree. There's not a good reason not to do it, but I don't think they'll do it. Oh, I hope they have a little bit of fun. I hope they do, really hope they do, but I don't think they will.

I also, I think Jeff Shackleford wrote a short piece today where he called out if this was a conspiracy to juice the PIP numbers for the match, which I don't agree with, I'm with you guys, but it does introduce the fact that this could, that could be some fake feuds in the future to juice the PIP scores. You know what I'm saying? Like that, I think that scenario, we may see that in the future and that's lame. So a big winner in all of this is also the match in terms of the the PIP is gonna help the match a ton.

Yeah, because the matches in theory gonna reach a lot of other people that are not big golf fans and That is going to help you a lot and more in these ratings than just like a viral tweet will. I'm weighing on these matches. I think more of those, we've been saying that forever too, like, you know, the battle of Big Horn and, you know, Shell's wonderful world of golf. I'm glad those are back. I'm fully in on the, kind of celebrity, you know, spectacles that they're putting out. Well, now that we don't have fox andulf, we need someone else to be a disruptor to keep, you know, NBC and CBS on their heels or on their toes in terms of like,

I mean, shot tracer wasn't really a thing until Fox did it all in like every shot. And like all this drone stuff, that wasn't a thing until Fox. Like Fox innovated all this stuff and made the other networks change when they just wanna put their hands up and say we can't do it, like we can their hands up and say, we can't do it. We can't.

We can't. We can't the contracts. So anyways, I don't know if that's what people were, you know, people were confident emergency pod up the Bryson Brooks thing dropped. Like guys, we got just cool it on the emergency pod calls. All right, we'll get to it. Like it would have been a very, you got to let the whole week play out too. We would have, you know, not had a, the full realm of information. We just can't do premature reporting cannot,

you know, not the stakes are too high. I'll say this. I watched that video at least 25 times. Oh, my God. It was incredible. I mean, it was fascinating stuff, which how often can you say that about a golf video? Exactly. So yeah, that was great. On the LPGA tour, as we are recording this alley, uing leads, Sophia pop off one up through 12 in the final round of the match play at Shadow Creek, the Bank of Hope match play, presented by the LPGA, which is something like that. It was fun. DJ, did you get to watch much of this this week? I admittedly have not until today. I wouldn't say much. I popped in and out as matches were ending.

So a lot of 15, 16, 17, 18. Major applause to the LPGA and the sponsors for getting this stood up. I thought it was blast. Shadow Creek, I think we talked at great length around the match last year about Shadow Creek. It's probably not my choice of golf courses I'd love to show off from a, you know, here's what golf should look like, sustainability, affordability perspective, but looked fucking badass

for a match play event. I think it's hot. It looks so hot. It's like a hundred degrees every day. But a really cool place for match play. A lot of balls, banking off slopes, a lot of players, you know, just playing the course in interesting ways. Obviously, great field. Like, I thought they, you know, they mimicked the WGC match play format with the pool play and stuff, which I think we've talked about at length, you know, kind of some of our feelings on that. I did think, you know, it's interesting coming from, from the perspective of, you know,

I'm a massive huge gigantic PGA tour fan. I watch way too much of it. And it's interesting in that realm to say like, you know, who cares if these guys go home or not? On the LPGA, I think it was a little more as a more casual fan of the LPGA. I think it was a little more interesting to see like, all right, give them three matches. Let's let, you know, kind of let the cream rise. Let's make sure these, you know, some of the bigger names get into, get into, to match

play or into the, the bracket. But yeah, it was cool. I want to give a shout out, of course, to my girl, Sean, Sean Feng, WDing from the consolation match. First of all, she buried, she played like, Hell yes. She played like 41 holes or something yesterday. You could tell she was so gassed after winning her match against Unigye yesterday.

She buried like a 50 footer on the first playoff hole. And she was just so like, get me the fuck out of here. Like, I'm done. I do not want to play anymore golf. And so it wasn't totally surprising to see her. Pretty unprecedented stuff. I don't think we've ever seen that in the men's match play where someone just says, you know, straight up,

I'm not playing the consolation match. Like, I'll take fourth. It's whatever $22,000. Sounds weird. We need to set up a meeting between her and Big Randy. Oh, I think, yeah, I feel like they're on similar wavelengths. I think that's like, dude, I'm not, I don't need to play for third. I'm good.

The problem is I don't think we'd ever get that meeting set up because it would just be very like, well, I'm not going there. Like, why don't they, they had to come to me. Yeah, no, I'd love to host a Denver. I'll be here, you know, I'll be here anytime she wants to come by. I got a dentist appointment Friday. I can't meet her Tuesday. Exactly.

The whole week is caught. It's tied up there. I will respectfully disagree with you. I can't do, like, can't do the round robin. I was, like, I was in on day one. I was checking the leaderboards and everything. I did not honestly didn't even know his round robin until, like, the second match has started.

I was like, damn it. Yeah. Come on. I can't even know it was Round Rob until like the second match it started. I was like, damn it. Come on. I can't keep track of all this. It's just too much to ask for people to keep track of. But I, so Fia Popov's match was awesome and semi-finals against Shenzhen Fang who yeah, Popov had like an eight footer to win the match on 18

and she just giant fist pump before that thing was even close to drop it in, which was awesome. It got me very fired up for the Soul Heup Cup also. Oh God, that's gonna be phenomenal viewing. And then new commissioner of the LPJ tour was named. It is Molly Marco Summon. Hope I'm saying that right.

I admittedly don't know much about her. She was currently the Ford family director of athletics at Princeton University. She'll become the ninth commissioner of the LPGA since its formation in 1950. So as a fellow Ivy leager, Neil, what, you know, give us some stereotypes about Princeton, what, what he got? I don't know if I want to go on the record with this. I'll see my time back to you. No, she seems, you know, her good stuff seems very impressive. It's cool to see her on the broadcast today. And, you know, we'll see what the agenda looks like.

I feel like, you know, it feels a little bit like a presidential change. What's in your first 100 days? Let's shake some stuff up. It's, we know it's going to have enormous impact on our lives, just like the presidential chair. Of course. One thing I would guess she probably has gone for is, you know, the TV deals locked up with the joint negotiations

with the PJ tour. I mean, that's kind of the big question mark, obviously hanging over both tours, heads at all times. So with that locked up, hopefully she's got some runway to do kind of what she wants to do. Hopefully, once she wants to do is good stuff. And now hopefully she has some runway to do those things. But pretty enormous, you know, not a hot take here, but pretty enormous shoes to fill with

Mike Juan, who I think is universally loved by everybody in golf. So I think it was a lot easier probably for him to, you know, he just had so much good will and popularity with players and media and other organizations, at least, you know, from the outside looking in. That's how it seemed. So whenever he was trying to pass, you know, anything somewhat controversial, I'm sure that became much easier for him. So she'll she'll be coming in without that. But hopefully she, she build it up quickly. I was just say this about I didn't watch the much of the LPGA this week. Bummer that we couldn't watch on TV.

Until the finals, the finals was on tonight. But yeah, the semi-finals were on only on online streaming. So obviously that's, you know, I don't know how hard camera works. So that's I'm not going to go there. I will say this though, and this goes back to Beth Ann. Nichols is peace a while back of, you know, she was trying to say make, you know, make things, more birdies, right?

Make, make things easier. I would say more formats, more match play, like experiment. I'd love to see the LPGA do more of this with match play. Just make it look a little bit different than what's going on on the men's tour and, and, you know know get my curiosity going to to to go find that golf Especially if I can't you know find it while I'm watching PGA tour. I think that's a Winning formula a little bit just to experiment more with the formats one thing on the streaming So I was kind of switching back and forth between the

Colonial and the semi finals which you had to switch. I have YouTube TV, so I'm watch on Apple TV. So I'm going back and forth between apps. So every time I got to go into the NBC sports gold app, reload the coverage for the LPGA every single time I got the PXG pre like pre-roll commercial. And this occasionally, this happens occasionally. And, and let me preface this by like, it seems like PXG supports the women's game. You see a lot of people playing it. I know they pay decently well.

So let me, let me preface all that with that. But this occasionally happens. And it happened a couple weeks ago with the commercials at the PJ Championship, where my wife will just randomly walk into the room and just like a headshot Something we've been railing about for months possibly even years Just absolutely cut to the core of it without without having any idea what she's doing And so to watch her watch a pxg commercial for the first time was a high that I'm gonna be chasing for For years and years Science of sexy what the fuck is this?

Is this a serious commercial? Is this a joke? Is this like some sort of pair, why the guy's strapping the guy to the pig? Like what is, what's going on? It was great. If we can, let's get to our BMW Ryder Cup segment, BMW of course, a global partner of the Ryder Cup, a partner of ours, they are supporting us as we can, let's get to our BMW Ryder Cup segment, BMW, of course, a global partner of

the Ryder Cup, a partner of ours. They're supporting us as we have what I believe to be many, many, many, many Ryder Cup discussions between now and the Ryder Cup in September. We get a lot of questions about this stuff every single week, so I don't feel bad bringing it up every week. This happened again early, early part of the week, this is from golf digest for an article just about Phil and his, his, you know, chances of being on the team and whatnot. And from the article, it says, even before Michelson, a month shy of his 51st birthday, completed

his improbable victory at the PGA on Sunday to become golf's oldest major champion, the text were flying back and forth between love and stricker about the possibility of using a captain's pick on Michelson. This is according to Davis love. With the win, Mikkelsen now has six time major champion vaulted from 50 second in the points to 16th, only adding more credence to the idea. Love said, the first thing I did Monday morning was to look and see what number he was in the standings and he'll continue to get more points. And on Saturday, Stryker added what that what happened at the ocean course could carry a pretty good amount of weight to his decision given the similarities between it and

Wistengstraids both courses having been designed by Pete die and then said Davis love if Stryker was picking the team right now, he would pick him. What's your guys reaction to that? If the rider cup was this week, I'd be down for that. Like I legitimately would. I know he you know, would. I know he would have taken colonial off, he would have come and rested, it's obviously he's driving the ball well. And I don't think that's what he's saying though. I think he's saying if you're picking the team right now

for September, he would be on it. Oh God, that would be, I just don't think that's a good idea. I mean, this is beyond done, right? Like again, we've covered this almost every week. I think Phil too is credit, kind of said that. Phil did, sorry, I should have downloaded Phil's comments. I tweeted them out earlier this week,

but he basically said, I need to play a lot better golf between now and then to be a part of this team, which God, and why is Phil have to step up and say that? Like why is the leadership falling over themselves to Phil drove that bus over Tom Watson? Yeah, the other captains want to get got. Phil said, if I'm the captain, I'm not going to want a guy that plays well

one week in an entire year just because I played really well last week and won a big championship that does not warrant a spot on the team by any means. So why the hell? Why the hell is our leadership saying the opposite of this? I think they're just saying, I mean, think about the reverse.

If those guys came out this week and were like, no way Phil Mickelson's not being picked, they would look like the most old part either. No, they kinda do though. I don't know. I think they're going to, like this is the, I mean, strikers like VNICE's guy out there like what he's he's got

There's no benefit to him going out and being like, you know, yeah, I just don't really see it You don't have to say that either of course he can go as far as he did no you can say like If we're picking tomorrow I'd pick Phil. Yeah, you could say like it's a pretty well Statement obviously that we have to like that's an incredible performance We have to weigh that in but there's a lot golf be played between now and the end of the year. And I'm not making any decisions on the team right now. How hard is that to say he's monitoring the situation? Sure. We'll be following this very closely. More news as it develops.

I will say it strikes me as a you don't get fired if you, you know, pick IBM situation, Phil being IBM, you know, you know, that's a, you know, an old software joke, right? I'm like, you just go with the, uh, with the kind of, yeah, but you might get fired. You pick 51 year old Phil Mickelson, who was Oh and three in France. And like, isn't a guy you're going to want to rely on for 36 holes a day, which can be a huge thing in these things. And it could be a great locker room guy. Could, you know, it can be an assistant captain then. Like, that's not-

I'm not very good for him. I'm just trying to get myself in strikers. You know what I mean? The biggest alpha move ever would be if the PGA just made Phil the captain. So like, Stricker, thank you, man, for all that. All you've done over the last couple of years, but like, I think we're just gonna go with Phil instead.

So he's clearly not gonna be on the team. So why don't we just gonna make him the captain? Everyone's really excited. If we're looking at a Stroke's gain index for this year, who of this, who of this group are you taking? Harry Higgs, Tom Hogi, Doug Gim, Brendan Steele, Richie Rinsky, Phil Mickelson, Troy Merritt, Luke List, or Pat Perez.

Like that's the golf Phil has played so far this year. Again, I wanna point out the ridiculousness that he won the PGA championship, okay? But this is what he has been for the past, you know, whatever. To answer your question, Harry Higgs. Well, yeah, of course, from taking the area, but that is how do you feel about between Stu Sank and Phil Mikkelson? Oh, God.

Who would you pick? This is not a conversation we should be having right now. That's the whole American team. That's the point. The team is so deep. We don't need to be doing any of this. You got to answer that question. What would you take, Phil, Michael's interest you think?

I would take two things. I would take Phil. Just as like for entertainment. So yeah, well, this is the whole thing. I oscillate like very violently back and forth between like, this is a totally made up exhibition that like, it's just made to be really good TV. At this point, you know, I know that's not how it started,

yada, yada, yada. But like, that's what it's grown into, it's like golf's greatest TV show, right? And so on that hand, it's like, I mean, it's only gonna be more interesting having Phil, even if he plays, you know, horrendously, like that's something to talk about, something to watch. It's blah, blah, blah.

But like, yeah, if you're trying to win the thing, like, yeah, I just don't, this what I was trying to say that, you know, Sunday night of, of Kioa was like, yeah, maybe he'll keep driving it like he never has in the history of his 30 year career. And he'll just keep like rifling it the ball dead straight on these incredibly demanding off courses. Like, maybe that will happen. Or maybe this was kind of a one off thing and we should all be really happy that we saw it.

And you know, we should move on from there. Which there is something to be said for what I would think what they're going to do with this setup is going to be very different in terms of I don't there's not going to be a lot of rough. It's not going to be that pinging off the tee. It's feel kind of spray it. But that's what's weird is like, at a place like Whistling Strait, it's it feels like you can only,

you can only cut the rough back so much, right? You hit a point on every one of those holes, it's like, it's like Kiwa, where it's like, all right, you can't just grow fairway here, like this is all like native area. But I don't think, you know, they're gonna play it long, hit it far, and it's gonna be an iron and putting contest, right?

It's not gonna be a driving accuracy contest, which plays into Phil's hands. Or a distance and putting contest. It's gonna be distance. I think they're gonna let him tee it high and let it fly, which we've documented is prone to do. And that's where Cocrack has entered the conversation. Cocrack entered the chat. He has entered the chat where like Cocrack has a lot of things that Phil can offer in terms of hitting it far and make a ton of birdies and a playing style that really fits that

format really well and has like the stroke scheme to back it for the entire year. He's the high stack right now. I'd say Simon F for Co-crack. He's got F250 energy, you know, just diesel, diesel American engine, send him road trip him up to, up to Whistling straights. I'm ready for that. Which a guy like co-crack is still going to have to beat the door down the rest of the year. But I think like if we're talking about, if I'm making a team right now,

is co-crack on it? No, of course not. But like if he continues to play great golf and we want to ride a hot hand and has a playing style that fits it, like Cameron Trangawi has played great golf this year. Does not have a playing style that fits with some straights. Does not fit into this team at all. But how well Jason Cocrack has played and his playing style matching up with what I think they're going to do with his golf course.

That makes sense. That's on the radar for me. Cocrack's not that far out, by the way. He moves up to number 13 in the rankings. That's pretty good. But as a rookie and as somebody that's not like the biggest glue guy ever and isn't, you know, a social media star and I speak for you. I speak for you, so I'm growing.

Is it great friends with, you know what I mean? He's not like a, he's not getting a Ricky Fowler pick out of this, right? He's gonna have to beat the damn door down and get it. All right, here's your north of number six on the rankings right now. Starting with number seven, you guys tell me lock or not lock. Just again, I'm gonna point out the rankings are stupid,

but continue, thank you. They're extremely stupid. You just tell me lock or not lock, and we'll count how many guys we have until we fill the team here. Okay, ready? Patrick Reed, number seven, not lock. Not a lock.

Phonetino. Lock. Not a lock. Not a lock. Phoney Tina lock. Not my team. He's a lot. He should be a lock, but I'll say not lock. Just for fun. Jordan's beef lock. Lock. Lock. Dan Berger. Not lock. Nah. Not I would say very good, but not locked. Web Simpson feels the same way. Lock. I'm in. I'm in on Web.

Send them. Web is like, like a four switch combination code. It's locked, but like three of them are on the code. He's a big lock. He's a big lock, yeah. It can be unlocked. He's kind of like stuck right between the first two. Yeah.

Like, I think he's in right now, but lock is a very strong word. William Ho. Not locked. Not locked. I would say not now, but Locke is a very strong word. William Ho, not Locke. Not Locke. I would say not Locke, but would be fascinated. I cannot, I, for years, for eight years now, have thought about the idea of him being on a Ryder Cup team and I would fucking love it, all in about, of him getting picked.

Number 13, Jason Kochrack, not Locke, not Locke. Patrick Cantlay, I think there's no more Locke. No, there's no more Locke. I can't lay is not a lock. I wish he was, but Fred Stone has been underground for a while. And then just to finish out here, to put all this in context, Harris English 15th, Scotty Sheffler 16th, Phil Nicholson 17th, Sam Burns, 18th, Trills, Allataurus 19th, and Max Homa 20th. With all those names, it's hard to say that if you were picking the team, Demara, you'd pick Phil. That's, that's a tough quote.

That's a very quote, very tough quote. And I just that again, he's not stuck to those words, but like that is just alarm bells for me in terms of how this is all going to go. I just, I do not have a good feeling about any of it. And then just to reiterate, like I've saw so many tweets today of like, oh man, Sergio's playing well, Justin Rose, is the US even gonna get to 10 points. Here's one through six, Dustin Johnson,

Bryson, JT, Brooks, Colomor, Cala, and Sandrochoff Lee. That's very good. And we've formed one month to go. Like, there's so much can happen. And we could come in playin' like shit. And like we did, going into France. And I've formed for months to go. Like there's so much can happen. And we could come and play in like shit. And like we did, going into France. And I was like, I didn't go well. So it's, it's amazing.

Can we talk about Sergio a little bit? I had, I had some thoughts on him. I feel like I don't know where to, like there's no rhyme or reason to his form. The last, I don't know, two or three years. He won what Sanderson last year. And then he, he'll just pop up on the leaderboard and play really good golf. He did it.

The players, you know, he did play well at match play, play well up until today. I just, I'm curious how you guys think his career is gonna end. Like, do you think he's gonna have a resurgence in the next five years? Do you think he's gonna win again? Like, where do you stand on Sergio right now? Just total apathy towards it.

Like, I just, I don't, you know, I just don't root for him. I don't, you know, he ripped, he missed a putt today and ripped a string off his pants and threw it on the green as if he got distracted by a string that was hanging off his pants. I realize he shot 76 today, tough to say. That's not good. It reminds me a little bit of kind of the period that we just came through with Phil, where it was just very like, yeah, it's clear,

you're immensely, immensely talented and when everything's firing on all cylinders, like of course you can contend on like any golf course, right? But more often than not, yeah, it's probably not going to be that. And I think Phil, too, is credit, we set a bunch of this at the PGA. I mean, Phil kind of reworked his whole body. He's worked really, really hard on his game. And I don't have any inside knowledge of what Sergio's doing or not doing.

But it's not really the vibe I get. I guess I bring it up because when the five I get, you know, it's I guess I bring it up because I'm when I see I'm fascinated by Sergio. Like I can't tell if he's motivated if he doesn't care. I guess that's kind of what I'm getting at. I don't really know either. I just don't know where he's at. He's like 49th in the world in the OWGR right now. I looked up stats. He's second and strokes gained off the tee. So he's still driving the shit out of the ball in 2021, but he's 194th in strokes game putting, which is, listen, that's not very good.

But I don't know. It just feels like he's, I mean, he's still in the top 50, but it's like he's not even trying. It's like he's sleepwalking. And I don't know. He's 41. Like does he win another tournament? I don't know. That's just something I think that comes with, you know, a lot of people have this reason or excuse or whatnot, but also getting married and having a kid like can change some things. And I'm sure changes to motivations. And I don't know how, I don't know how some of the guys with multiple kids dedicate the time that they

need to to their game and be on the road that much. And I'm totally apathetic. I feel nothing watching Sergio anymore. I just, it's not really that interesting to me whether he plays well or plays bad. And that's just kind of where I'm at. I think it'd be different if it was a major. You know, if it was Sunday to major in Sergio, I had a chance to win.

I think that would be very compelling. I'd be glued to the screen. But, you know, this is all a guess for me, just kind of based on interviews kind of before this happened. And I guess a little bit after it happened, but he just, it seems like he won that Masters and just took the biggest exhale of all time. And it just feels like, all right, like, it's almost very like, okay, now no matter what happens, like we're good. Which, I like that, that brings me to a different one. Which I think I can totally understand, by way I'm not that's not a judgment

Yeah, I almost feel like he might be on cruise control for nine years, and they'll just go beat up the champion store Yeah, cuz he feels like his game is is tailor made for that tour just seems like he has all the money and like I just don't know that He's unless he wants to you know He really misses competition or wants to get back out on the road or whatever. I just had just don't see him Even like playing the champion store. Oh, or whatever. I just, I just don't see him even like playing the champion store. But who knows? I'm going to bring something up here. Who, who out there is trying to take away majors from people that

have won majors? Who is doing that? Because I keep hearing when people win. Yeah, I'm a major champion now and no one can take that away from me. Who is trying to take these majors away from people? We talked about it on the golf course. I think it's, it's people on Twitter and podcasts are taking cheap shots at my guys Sean McKeal and Rich Beam and Y Yang and all those guys. You know, it's, I'm with them.

You can't take that away. Thank goodness. But who is trying to take it away from them? I'm about Ben Curtis. Yeah. Who are these people trying to take it away from them? It's the eggs on Twitter. The anonymous eggs. They're trying to get after everybody. I do want to let them though.

I do want to give a shout to Phil's post round on Thursday when he's like, yeah, I didn't go very well. I shot three over, but I won the PGA. So that was fantastic. Um, closing out, uh, for this week, uh, this was last event for Mark Russell and Sagar White together. Yeah, I think one of them's working one more, but this was their last one together. Which they, you know, I thought they were doing it. They did a moment of silence today for the That flyover horn that could have been a movie poster. Yeah, I mean that was good. The two of this the whole that whole scene was was Fucking awesome with that mustache sluggers and menace, man. Bryce, and also dropped a week in the life vid on his YouTube.

It's 28 minutes long, something like that. I got a minute, I watched every minute of it. Wow, really? Yeah. I set out to watch it all in the name of research today. I made it through about six and a half, seven minutes. It was just, I mean, it's not like good. It made me physically uncomfortable.

Oh, it's very uncomfortable. Yeah. But it is interesting. I think it helps not define him, but it helps me understand him a little bit. But I'm also have more questions than answers. I had a lot of questions. I don't get why it starts with like a, almost like a, like a foreshadowing rain scene with a lot of moody rain shots.

Like a lot of special effects. Like I don't know if that, maybe that comes in on the last half of the video. Maybe that all, the director ties it all together, brings a full circle. I had the, I wanna give a shout out to, you know, the ads every like two minutes, felt like you were watching,

uh, just watching PJ Dorgulf. Um, so that was fun. The scene of the guy just like mashing golf balls made me like literally hate golf. Like watching someone just swing as hard as they can, just like all I'm trying to get up is just this arbitrary number of like how fast can I swing it? And all the boys just like slapping each other, it just was like, I fucking hate this. This makes me hate golf, this is not what I play golf.

I'm not gonna judge anybody, that's great. It looks like they're all having an awesome time, but I just need to get on the record is like, for all the grow of the game talk, that is not gonna make me play more golf. That was tough. You know those progressive commercials where the guy talks like to parents,

like how not to become your parents. You know, and I feel like there's a one with the seminar, I feel like Bryce needs to go to that seminar where it's like, hey man, you know, like, am I doing it? Like, yeah, I'm not making all this content, it's awesome, right? It's like, no, you know, nobody needs to know how early you got up this morning.

Nobody cares. You know, like he needs that guy in his life to be like, the waiter doesn't need to know your name. Yeah, he's got blue hair. He's got blue hair. It's like, Bryson, just don't say it. You don't need to say that. So on the flip side, I want to commend him.

Like it's very cool. I like seeing more inside, you know, what, what do you got going on week to week Like what what's a week in the life, you know, obviously that's something I all of us are very interested in That's why we spent so much time making a similar video right about the LPGA, but Yeah, it's just I feel like I need maybe one of those seminars every now and again where I'm watching all the again just watching the boys, just crushing ping pong balls and just up in the swing speed.

I'm like, man, I just like really old, am I, am I getting really old? Maybe that's what's happening. So more to come on that. We'll keep you posted as that develops. Yeah, existential crisis. The waiter doesn't need to know your name. I guess not.

But yeah, I had to turn it off after that. I couldn't. Yeah, it wasn't like good. I just like wanted to see how, you know, what else he was going to bitch about and just, you know, how he goes and how he works out and swinging shirtless in his driveway with a bunch of dudes he never introduced. I don't know who the other guys are.

I still don't know who the guys are. The boys. They're the kids. The TikToks. Literally being a TikTok house. The boys, they're the kids. The TikToks, they might literally be the TikToks. Let's see how fast the kid can swing it. It's just uncomfortable, but yeah, he's put himself out. Bryson desperately wants to be the kid, but he's not. He's not.

He'll never be the kid. And if you want to be the kid, you're not the kid. That's, that's the first rule of being the kid. And as we mentioned, the match for his announce for July 6th, big sky Montana, Bryson, Mike's up for four hours. Phil and Tom Brady against Bryson and Aaron Rogers. I do look forward to watching that. Apparently it's just they have a 770 yard par five or something out there that if with at the

altitude like Bryson might hit one 500 yards. Sign me up. I'm excited about it. Yeah. Luke Guthrie makes a cut on the Corn Ferry Tour. Yeah. 23 straight missed cuts. Friend of the program. That was obviously really fun to see. Kudos to him. That was great.

And then this one got a little run on this Sunday. This is from Rick Run Good on Twitter. Justin Thomas, cut a check out of his own pocket and handed it to Big Mike Vissaki this week to continue to pursue his golf career. How about that? That was awesome. I will say it was like,

there were not a lot of people, of course, out there following the Big Mike Vissaki, Keith Clearwater, John Augustine Group along with myself, but once you got to 13 and there was, you know, some people milling about, some people up in the hospitality, a lot of Big Mike calls. It was actually like really cool.

There was a lot of people who knew his story and it's very obvious that that video resonated with a bunch of people. And of course, if you don't know who we're talking about, this is the guy from a couple of weeks ago that was the PJ Tort at a great job capturing him Monday qualifying for Tampa, I believe, right? And Colin is dad and breaking down into tears.

He's just, he's been grinding on many tours for a long time and finally got a chance to play on the PJ tour. You could see how much it meant to him. And I don't know if you talked to JT what his, what, what if the impetus was for doing that? But it was, it was very cool. He just said something along the lines of, you know, not wanting to see somebody give up on their dreams

and being moved by that story in Tampa and, you know, said that, you know, he held his own in Tampa and the guy can play and it just doesn't seem like a guy that should not, you know, that should give up on his dreams at any point. So anything he could do to help, I don't, I don't think he was planning for that to get out on social media because now. Total pit play. Total pit.

I have a feeling he's going to be hit up by a lot of pros. No, why could play? Help fund my career. Not relevant. I'm just, just, just JT travel to checkbook. Is that a like interesting wire transfer? Is that a Venmo? Like what's the? I'm just curious how that how that looks like. Hey, here's a here's a check

from my bank account. I don't know that that just came my sorry. Last note I have is the US women's open could be looking for a sponsor. I miss it. I miss this story. This is summarized from Amiman Lynch at golf week, just talking about how, you know, as they try to reach their goal of purse parity, that, you know, it's still the, you know, the US men's open funds, everything the USGA does, they make $165 million off the tournament or whatever that is. And it funds the US women's open, which is operates at a loss every year, as they, you

know, try to make the Purses as close to equal as they possibly can. I think the winner of the US men's open gets 2.25 million and the LPJ gets one now Which I think 20 which is still I believe foreign way the biggest winners check on the LPGA KPMG. I think my least it was I guess when they announced one of those two others have caught up They're kind of one up each other, which could be a good thing. If they get trying to get close to that, they may have a presenting spot. I don't think it's going to be a title sponsor according to the source in the article, but a potential presenting sponsor, which if it means more person for the women, I'm all for

that. No issue with that. That's it. That is. I have a couple of things, a shout outs, kind of a hamster damn category for me, but I just want to shout out the A on risk reward challenge. Oh, yeah, not the challenges segment, but I know we talked about it today, I just think it's such a better way to work the sponsor

in it's serving the viewers. Why don't like you could sell 18 of those and instead of the Comcast, top 10 FedEx file stuff. Like, it's not complicated, guys. Like that was an awesome segment. Tell me about more golf holes that I'm about to watch and how the strategy sets up for them. I just think that that's just rinse and repeat that one for me. Well, how about in a very literal sense? I mean, they do that as those guys are on the 11th tee, right? And they do a great job explaining, you know, players who go for the green and two, it's very rare.

But when they do, they have a, you know, whatever it was, 0.7 shot advantage. And if you can hit the green until you got a full stroke advantage, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then co-crac has the decision, you know, when he's in the fairway and should I go for it, should I not go for it? And all of a sudden, I'm like, oh, I have, I have contacts now. I have like some thoughts on this upcoming shot. That's, that's a win for everybody.

And every time they cut to that segment, I'm immediately like, you know, I'm scarred. I'm like, oh, this is going to suck. And I'm always like, oh, this is really good. Like hell, yeah. And that's a sponsored segment. I'm in. So I just wished that more of the sponsored segments didn't disrupt the flow of the broadcast. Yeah.

And one other thing I want to call out, I want to give Schwab a shout out. They had three, four, five different commercials running as a title sponsor today. Yeah. And I think RBC and MasterCard and every other dumb title sponsor needs to take note because it's not hard in those, I know that we work with Schwab. And if you know what, if Schwab only had one commercial, I'd be giving them shit about it. But they didn't.

They've got more than one. And they're trying to tell some interesting stories. I just think that that needs to be shouted out. Because I can't stand it when these title sponsors have one commercial 55 times during a broadcast. And I think the truck, I see the floor. And I think the truck was sweet as well. Hell yeah. And the truck the truck was sweet as well. Hell yeah. And

trucking person was very should buy the truck from Cocrack and give it to Greller to drive up to the pack Northwest. Yeah, that might have been a little more burden than it is. Yeah, I think it probably just fly. To your point, Schwab Golf.com for a lot more of those stories that you are talking about. And I would just like to say to the A on Risk Reward segment, imagine only doing that for one of the whole. So like imagine the, why wouldn't the broadcast team like be breaking down a whole statistically like that?

Like those the most interesting. There's just not time. There's just be fucking commercials, man. There's no time to do anything. And I will say, I had in my notes, I thought CBS showed a ton of golf shots today. Even with really only two guys in contention, I felt like we saw a lot of the golf course.

I thought today was great. Well, I feel like you could, I know Aeon owns that segment, but I feel like you could just put the comp cast or the FedEx name on, like you could just have each of them sponsor a hole, you know, it's not, I don't know. Maybe that's too simplified,

but it just, it serves me as a viewer and it's a win for Aon like, hey, everybody wins here, that's kind of the goal. A great, here here. I think that's a wrap on a fun week. We are gonna have a US Women's Open preview out Tuesday. We'll be back for Memorial Slash US Women's Open recap next week. Thank you everyone for tuning in, Neil.

Thank you for joining from Upstate, New York or Long Island. I forget wherever you are, sorry. New Jersey. New Jersey. The shortest charts. It's close. Bids you a dude. I played some golf in New Jersey this week. I'll tell you about it. All right, that's a fish low rap. All right, we're done. Cheers! Cheers!

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