No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 440: US Women's Open/Memorial Recap

Episode Date: June 7, 2021

19 year old Yuka Saso wins the U.S. Women's Open, Lexi Thompson gives one away, and everything else from the week at Olympic Club. We also chat about Jon Rahm's wild W/D at the Memorial, and the annua...l Brooks/Bryson update. A lot in this one, enjoy.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm going to be the right club today. Yeah. That's better than most. How about in? That is better than most. Better than most. Expect anything different. Better than most. Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!
Starting point is 00:00:27 Oh! Oh! Hey guys, it's Sully. Welcome back to the No-Lang Up Podcast. Do you see what I did there? Did you see that? Did you catch that? Sully, I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Did you get it? The Brookseat thing? Yeah. Welcome back to the No-Lang Up Podcast. Sully here. T.C. is here. Utterly confused by that intro. Totally confused. I had no idea where you Sully here, TC is here, utterly confused by that intro. Totally confused.
Starting point is 00:00:45 I had no idea where you're going. Big Randy is here from Denver. How are you bud? Guys, if I was any better, the cops would break down my door and haul me off to jail. Interesting. Okay, don't really know where to go to that. We got a lot to cover today,
Starting point is 00:01:00 one of which being the US Women's Open at Olympic, watched a lot of women's golf this week. Something that always stands out, a big takeaway I always have whenever I leave an LPGA tour event, how they're used to the hybrids, how many they carry, you know, what situations they use them in. We talk a lot about how the women's game
Starting point is 00:01:17 is more, maybe more relatable to the amateur game. It's kind of got me thinking about a hybrid. I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about putting the driving iron away. Hybrid looks to be a little more versatile. There's a lot of hybrid options that Calloway has. The Apex Hybrid, the Apex Pro, the Big Birth, the Maverick Standard, the Max and the Pro.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Randy, we're all jealous of your use of the hybrid around the green. I believe it's referred to as the 15th Club. Yeah, which makes the ball retriever the new 16th Club. Hmm. Wow. I don't know if that has any effect on a USGA rules or whatnot, but TC any you know, you've just experienced the game in a whole different way from the lefty side Any any insight to how hybrid might help yeah the apex skill apex pro I'm my opinion that's the best hybrid in the game. No offset on it. It's just, it's got the best sound of any hybrid ever.
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Starting point is 00:02:28 or apex pearl hybrids, the big berth of hybrid or any of the maverick hybrids. All right, let's start. U.S. women's open. We just finished watching that. I'm a little concerned, honestly, at how much joy TC is getting out of Lexi Thompson, not being able to close the deal today. I can't help it. I'm sorry. like, I just never been a favorite of mine. I was trying to think of this on the way over who I would enjoy watching that in golf and I struggled to think of a name. I really, I don't think even my worst,
Starting point is 00:02:58 my biggest rival on the pro circuit, I would wish that on. Like that just was deeply uncomfortable. I mean, if that happened to Bryson, you wouldn't enjoy that if that happened to Bryson. I would enjoy it more than it happened to Lexi, but I really have no personal feelings towards Lexi either way. Bryson would be a complicated one, probably.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Yeah, I would probably get a little bit of joy out of that and I would be in on this. Randy, did you get any joy out of that? No, no, I didn't. It was just hard to watch. Yeah. I think the, it being gradual, right? You know, it's one thing if it happens just on the last
Starting point is 00:03:34 hole and it kind of sneaks up and it's over before you realize it. But man, that, that, uh, train wreck was, was happening over many holes. Um, I feel bad for Lexi. I don't even know if I would wish it on Tony or Ricky. Oh my God. They seem like good guys. I really needed a round the horn mute button.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Your far away would be super easy to mute you. And I think I really actually need one of those. What's the comp? What's the collapse comp for this one? Because I got one and I think it's pretty, feels like Adam Scott at Lidham, right? Or it's just a slow motion. Yes, low bleed.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Because I think when she stubbed the chip on the front nine, 11, or yeah, on 11, that was kind of like, all right, this is. Which the more they showed that replay, the more I was like, I've seen this from one of member one of our team before. Oh, I felt that. I mean, it was the exact action, the right shoulder just dropping.
Starting point is 00:04:27 DJ calls it the building demolition. You know, just your vertebrae just going out. I got a little bit of that going on right now, so I should not make fun. But yeah, that's exactly what it looked like. And then when she, like, she putted from way off the green, actually, some pretty good putts from way off the green in a couple spots. And then just constantly under clubbing. Yeah, I'm like not even collecting one,
Starting point is 00:04:50 one and a half club short. 17 is not even remotely in the neighborhood. In 18, I don't know what happened there. Exactly. I mean, it was, so yeah, her ball striking really covered up some short game weaknesses for the majority of the weekend. She did put well for the majority of the week, right? She did. I mean, that was, I think that was probably the story that, you know, can this last, can this last?
Starting point is 00:05:12 Yeah. That was the big news, really Friday and then into Saturday. So, I think that Adam Scott comparison was, was a very good one. You know, I was kind of thinking just back to Jim Furek at Olympic. was a very good one. I was kind of thinking just back to Jim Furek at Olympic. And he didn't make a birdie on his back nine in the final round. Just that slow, withering away. The snapshot leads a lot. I mean, that is not,
Starting point is 00:05:38 and it ended up being 400 to get in. So really, she was in reality four shots up on the number that needed to get in the playoff. And she didn't make the playoff. Well, the crazy part is, you know, five shots is one thing, but the, at the simultaneous, the rest of the field is melting down and has no momentum. It's not like everybody's no one's making a charge. Yeah. You know, and yeah, there were, there were, there were few that not so had to take a birdie three and to last five to get to four under it. You could But like like well well before that. Certainly, you know, around 11 12 13. I felt like angel was was making a run. Then she she misses that
Starting point is 00:06:14 Green left falls off in just terrible light on there. Sean, Sean just couldn't buy a putt down the stretch was was rolling some good ones couldn't buy a putt down the stretch was was was rolling some good ones. Megan Kang like she she played. She was absolutely striping the ball. Missed that wedge on 17 or on 16. That was probably one that she wishes she had back, but you know, missed a few shorties throughout the day. And then yeah, and then but the fact that you cassero just started like that and then just stayed in the battle.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Double two of the first three holes hit like the close of ever seen to a duck slice off the third second T. I think I mean it look like a top tracer error honestly but they couldn't even get the camera ready in time for that bottle land up on the hill on the right and yes you doubles two and three and and just hung in there only made one more bogey on the eleventh which was playing as a difficult hole birdies the two par fiveives coming in and 19 year old phenom. I'm glad, you know, I'm glad we watched the Lota championship. That was the first I'd ever got to see of her. And I was just like two hands up in the air like, whoa, that golf swing, like holy shit. I probably feel like I probably should have heard of her by now. And that's more of
Starting point is 00:07:21 a me problem than anything else. But I was an immediate fan, was a huge fan of the way she played the first couple of days. And then just battled tough, 71, 73, last two days to get in the playoff and wins it with just, she made me a little nervous on that second playoff all that playoff. Oh my god, the punch she ran by. But nails on the comeback.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Seriously. Even in regulation, I thought, you know, that took a few extra rolls to where I was like, they both Yeah, even in regulation, I thought, you know, that took a few extra roles To where I was like they both You know, they I thought Nasa had a chance to win it right they both missed those puts on 18 her and Lexi Yeah, it's interesting though. Solly like Yuka if you just looked at her score 73 like You know, she it's not like she lit the world on fire, but certainly played well down
Starting point is 00:08:05 the stretch when she had to. And, you know, her and Lexi obviously had that buffer and Yuka took, took advantage of a little bit more than Lexi did. But I don't know, it's a little weird because I think the take will be like, oh my gosh, she played so well. And she did like the last, how are many holes, but before that, it was really rocky. She played last 15 and two under and Lexi, you know, you can weigh heavily on your mind with somebody does out of the gates, right? She makes two doubles.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Lexi comes out, should have eagle the opening hole, almost part of the second, which was really difficult, and then hit an incredible shot into five to make another birdie, and that's when the league got really stretched out. And you almost kind of ripped, you know, like you said, you could didn't make it crazy run, but just like stayed in it, stayed in it and got a couple late birdies and waited for Lexi to just slowly bleed back the field. And Nasa got, you know, really, really bad break on 17, ball nestling down in that. I mean, that was that was like one of the worst spots in the golf course to be which we got to talk about some of the Rough around those bunkers. We'll get yeah. No, I was just gonna say NASA was so under the radar. I felt like all week, you know, like I
Starting point is 00:09:16 Certainly was not she was not nowhere on my radar at any point until like the back nine today Well, that's what she did at the KPMG Women's PGA, Kemper Lakes that we were at in 2018. Yeah. She had to find around 64 to come out of nowhere and so you knew she had to close that one out and didn't. But yeah, I remember that at the time, like, man, I have been at this tournament all week and I haven't seen her hit a shot.
Starting point is 00:09:37 I am not prepared to talk about her. Had that same feeling with a cable to the podcast. I was like, I don't have an enocetakes here. I have not seen this. And I watched almost every shot from this golf tournament that was on TV. Huge fan of Major League baseball ball parks, Randy. Like, it's so cool. She was gonna, she was gonna basically plan her whole schedule out around that. Gina Catti. So if she's ever in Denver, I would
Starting point is 00:10:01 love to go to a game with her. Nasa, if you're listening. Going back, I think Yuko, Randy, we saw her a little bit last year at the, at the US women's open down in Houston. And, you know, we talked to Corrito who I don't think he coaches her anymore. No, he, Corrito was a Corrito Villa Ramon. We got to talk to him. He was Bianca Pogdenanin. He was her coach specifically, but I think he had growing up,
Starting point is 00:10:28 it's a small world elite Filipino golf. And so I think he had cross paths certainly several times with Yuka. And but he basically just said, yeah, like Bianca's awesome, but take a look at Yuka too, because she's, and she finished tie for 13th that week. So that was, that was kind of her first, you know, really foray into, you know, big time
Starting point is 00:10:52 major championship golf. I found her super likable too. Obviously, English is not her first language, but did all of her interviews in English, even though she was clearly pretty uncomfortable with it. And you know, at the very end, just kind of said, like, as she's like sobbing, after she just won a US Open, like, yeah, sorry, I'm not very good at this.
Starting point is 00:11:07 It's kind of like, yeah, it's okay. I thought she was great. Yeah, I thought it was an, oh, it's so endearing. Fantastic interview, great emotion. And,
Starting point is 00:11:17 and yeah, I mean, really like, like very, very good English. Yeah. You know, which I think going back to language and all that, that's kind of how she got started playing golf, right? She, her family moved to Japan when she was five or six and she didn't speak the language in Japan, so her parents would just drop her off the driving range
Starting point is 00:11:34 and she would just hit balls all day and that's what she did. And so kind of found a haven in golf. And, you know, so kind of remarkable that she can, she's 19, get up there, speak English, probably better than I would of in that situation. Does she speak six languages, or three languages then? She's got to, right?
Starting point is 00:11:53 Yeah, I would have to imagine. I would say at least, yeah. Now I was gonna ask you guys a question, going back to Lexi and how the day started. Playing in three sums today, and how the day started. Playing in three sums today, Megagane is, I believe, three over through three holes, right?
Starting point is 00:12:11 She starts like double bogey, maybe even three over through two holes. Yucasaso is four over through three holes. In a weird way, do you think Lexi having that big of a lead? You know, it's like the most dangerous lead is the two goal lead or, or I guess I'm just asking you personally, even, like, do you think she would have been better served had you could gotten off to a hotter start? And then it's a true match play situation where you're, you're, I know, you're almost
Starting point is 00:12:38 competing against somebody else versus yourself. You're more dialed in. Like the person next to you is elevating you. Yeah. I see what you're going to do. You've got to go get it and hit shots instead of just like having that. Oh my God, I got to protect this lead all of a sudden. When you started that take, I was very out on it by the end of it. I'm kind of like, you know what? You're probably right. I guess, well, as soon as something starts to go wrong, like, which was the double on
Starting point is 00:12:59 11, you have to start thinking, oh no. And which like, Alex, he's credit, like, her demeanor. I mean, they talked about it a lot, and they talked about her mental game improvements. And honestly did seem a lot better than it usually has. And she seemed to be, you know, had her head up and did not seem overly concerned when things were going wrong.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Well, maybe almost to her detriment. I saw somebody tweeted something that's like, she's playing, she looks like she's playing like it's a Friday at Witch's Hall right now. Like, didn't, I almost like, wasn't registering for what was happening. And yeah, I don't know, it was tough to marry that, like, you know, acting super calm
Starting point is 00:13:31 and not wearing any emotion on your face with like this is falling down around you and it's just really hard to watch. I did feel like washing her, she seemed to enjoy playing golf. Yes. That's always been my biggest bugger but with her just in the past. And who cares what I think about watching her play golf?
Starting point is 00:13:50 But it was just always like, man, she just does not look like she's enjoying it. This looks like a total complete chore for her. Yes. And I didn't feel like that this week. Which I'm sure she owes some of that to the time she took off. She skipped the Women's British Open a couple of years ago in terms of just for exhaustion, mental health.
Starting point is 00:14:07 And like if you're doing this since, this was her 51st major. She's 26 years old. Like you do that from the time you're a kid. Like that is gonna wear you out. So maybe she, I don't know. I'm kind of iffy on the, you know, she after two questions,
Starting point is 00:14:22 she was started breaking down a crying in her interview afterwards. And like some of that was the agent, she, after two questions, she was started breaking down and crying in her interview afterwards. And I don't like some of that, was the agent, for Agent Cutter off, which Winston-Eleon, it's also a price in season. I'm 50, 50 on that. I can kind of understand like your professional athlete, you know, face the truth here,
Starting point is 00:14:37 face the media, the world, whatever. And I'm also kind of like, man, if that happened to me, I probably would just like want like a day to like, let me take this in for a second and then I'll happily answer any questions anyone has. I'm firmly in the old school, maybe I'm just a dick, but that's in the old school. Hey, you know, you face it in victory and defeat.
Starting point is 00:14:59 You know, I give her credit for going inside and some autographs afterwards, but you know, I don't want to put it all at her feet on that because it sounds like it was the agent stepping in. Yeah, which, yeah. It's a, I almost kind of even understand that more from the agent's perspective though. If like your players like in an extremely vulnerable position right now and like getting emotional and crying, like that's probably not the image she wants to put before in front
Starting point is 00:15:22 of the world. Yeah, that's obviously a wider story right now. I don't know the answer to that. I think selfishly, I'd love to hear from her, but I understand the other side of it too. I think from a maybe an image standpoint, I don't necessarily know why you wouldn't want to put that image to the world, where it's kind of endearing and people have empathy for you and know,
Starting point is 00:15:43 how close you just got and shared a little bit. I know that's very vulnerable and all that, but I don't know. I mean, yeah, I don't, I don't have the right answer for it. Right. I don't know if there is one. Megagonna, how about that four-day show? She races out to a 67-day one. Honestly, played pretty iffy the remaining days and made a lot of puts to stay in it. Smiled her way to a 77 today. It was a tough day today, but inner interview afterwards was all smiles and says, you know, no regrets on anything and finished this T14 and is going back to school tomorrow as a high school junior as a fun story for everyone except TC. She was fine. Her
Starting point is 00:16:21 putting stroke was great. You know, Randy was like, what didn't you like? Was it her gritty play or her very endearing press conference after the fact on Saturday? No, I just, she's very polished. She's very Stanford. If that makes any sense, right? Just, I think that makes a lot of sense. She is, she does not look sound act like a 17-year year old in any sense of any work.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Like, I just know every 17 year old that I've ever met is, you know, brooding and moody and awkward. And she is, she is a magnetic and charismatic. Yeah, really impressive. What I got a question, is she actually going to be in school tomorrow? Because I know that's a good story, but I want to see, you know, interseat at home room, you know, eight o'clock or whenever that bell rings, I'm going to need some proof to buy into that storyline, because that's a long flight back. I mean, she can fly direct back into Newark though.
Starting point is 00:17:23 And, you know, I, I, I, I, it's a lead eye though at this point, right? There's, there's nothing good now as F, SFO. I want to truance, I want to truant. I want to mark on a record if she's not back in school. Is there going to put that in for? It sounded like her calculus teacher was chiming in on Twitter and said, Hey, like, don't worry about this project. Oh, it's getting favorite.
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Starting point is 00:19:19 That's getting too easy, man. Keep adding more qualifiers in there. I can get through all the legal easy throw my way. Um, excited for the basketball the next next few nights. It's gonna get good. Um, TV or Olympic first, let's go Olympic. Okay. What did you just overall you guys were you guys played out there a couple of weeks ago. Um, you might have a little bit better on the ground perspective for it. But I have some takes on it, but I want to hear what you guys think first. TC. no, Randy, go ahead. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Lead us off. I loved it. I absolutely loved it. It checks a lot of boxes that I look for. I know everybody looks at golf courses differently, but a very cool setting, historic course, lots of history, the trees, you know, you had everything from the fog and the cold to sunshine yesterday sunshine today, it was a stern enough test for a US open in a classical sense, obviously fairways greens hitting it straight avoiding the long rough, which we can talk about little bits is that's where you could have a bit of an advantage was getting out of the rough, but I really enjoyed it. Are there better US Open venues? Sure, but Olympic is in that top core tile for sure for me. I just really enjoy the course.
Starting point is 00:20:43 I don't find it a very lovable place, right? You got all these side hill lies. It's built on the side of a hill. I think the famous story is, I think just Tilling Haas said, like, yo, you can't build a golf course up there. Like, this is the far better land over here on the SFGC, it's out of the lake. But I think the more I paid attention to it this time around
Starting point is 00:21:04 because I felt like in was it 2012 And then the other like it's just kind of washed over me and all the holes kind of blended in a little bit together There's some spunky par threes There's I do like the finishing stretch But I just didn't love the presentation of the golf course this week I felt like some of the cool stuff around the greens is just covered up by dense dense rough The bunkers are so freaking deep and they're and they're the sand and there's great great sand Some of the cool stuff around the greens is just covered up by dense, dense rough. The bunkers are so freaking deep.
Starting point is 00:21:27 And they're, the sand in there is great sand. It's not a whole lot of it, but you can really manipulate the ball out of the sand. But it just felt like there was no opportunity for any sort of recovery shot or any sort of artistry. It was just blunt, forced trauma. One of the many things that stuck out was just the rough between these bunkers and the greens. Like that looks like these bounds are meant to bound balls onto the green or
Starting point is 00:21:51 kind of maybe service back stops or, you know, that some of these openings into some of these greens are so narrow that you needed a little space on either side to kind of bank a ball in like the third green is what I'm thinking of. That par three, everything's canting to the, yet you can hit one in the left rough between the bunker and the green and it's stop there. And it's just like that, I don't know. That is such an interesting challenge, like to challenge a player to try to use this bank to get one down to the hole,
Starting point is 00:22:16 is more interesting than like actually the shots, like kind of impossible, and you're probably going to end up in the rough no matter what you do. That's where I kind of draw the line of like, I don't really know what we're testing right now. And over 72 holes, like again, maybe I'm just exhausted from watching almost all the tournament, but like that was just tough to just watch it be a driving contest
Starting point is 00:22:35 of like, hey, hit the fairway, like hit it. And if you are a foot off, like you might not, you're probably not gonna be able to hold the green, right? Because a lot of the greens are elevated and the openings are small. And there were a couple holes that had like wide openings that were like, all right, if you hold the green, right? Because a lot of the greens are elevated and the openings are small. But there were a couple holes that had like wide openings that were like, all right, if you miss the, miss the fairway on this side, you can hold this green. You can run one up, you can use this slope, blah, blah, blah. And those were the shots
Starting point is 00:22:55 that I found to be the most interesting. And I just, I don't know, the scale of that course just doesn't seem to fit the women's game. Great. It doesn't like a lot of those uphill shots where they're coming in with no spin, they had pins in the front all week. They can't hold it close to the front of that. And that's just, I don't know. On repeat, that was tough. Do I think it identified the best player in champion?
Starting point is 00:23:14 I do. So does any of that, what I said matter? I don't know. But I think for entertainment value, I think it does. Compare that to what we saw in 2019 with Country Club of Charleston. And this was the other end of the spectrum. It's not horrific, it's not a one out of 10,
Starting point is 00:23:28 but it's like, do I think that that is what the future this championship should look like for the women? I don't think so, candidly. And you know what, I give him credit for going there for- Prestige-wise, yes. Like, and the women were excited to be there, and if that's what they want to play, that I'm all, like I'm fine with that
Starting point is 00:23:46 I just think that there are styles of play that would show off their talents a lot better than this would and they've got so many great Options out there for courses that that have kind of you know been left behind by the men's game exactly That's the that's the courses that I would love to see the women focus in on rather than play the ones that the men play I want them to like go to these places that the men probably just can't play and embrace that. Coach Colbert Charleston being exibidae. There's a few holes out there where there's run-offs. I think on 15 over the left there or there's another one, like one of the par fours on the bottom. Nine has a good run-off to the left there or there's another one like one of the par fours on the nine has a good run off to the left
Starting point is 00:24:27 Yeah, but but it's like those are two few and far between and they're the exception not the rule on that course I think something else too is just this goes into the TV stuff But they did a better job of it today with more handhelds from the fairway and everything but Like when they're when they're from the tower you can't can't all the elevation change and the can of the fairways really gets washed out, especially on 16, 17, 18 there where you know, it looks a lot flatter than it really is. I love the finishing stretch. I think that 15 through 18 is just a phenomenal exceptional finishing stretch. Randy, I threw a lot out there. Anything you want to reply to?
Starting point is 00:25:13 Well, I would just say, you know, as as you're going through and talking about it, like I, you're complaints, I don't think are female specific. If that makes sense, because I think you would complain about the same things when the men come here. Yes. It's, you know, it doesn't necessarily reward certain types of golf. It's just, you know, who can survive and hit it out of the rough and make some putts. So, you know, I guess what I would say is I enjoy the country club of Charleston type US opens, but I kind of like there being variety. And I think this is Olympic represents one side of the spectrum. And I think that's good every now and again. I'm with you though. It's friendly doesn't need to be
Starting point is 00:25:59 like this every year. And honestly, I got really pumped seeing, you know, the next 40 years where the women go, uh, Pine needles next year will play much different landcaster country club, Pebble Beach, Aaron Hills. So you, there is a nice mix there with some, you know, different styles of golf course. I just, I happen to like, Hey, let's throw in, you know, an old school plotting US Open Test every now and again. And it sounds like they're going to announce three or four more here soon that are in that same Pebble Beach, you know, like I feel like Marion would be a perfect place to. That would be awesome. See, I worry about Pebble already about what they'll do with the rough there. Because like that's again, that's just where I'm at with like some of
Starting point is 00:26:42 those shots. Just, you know, there are 150 yards out and they don't have a club That they can get on a ball that can hold a green. It's just weird where there's no Just didn't feel very graduated. It felt like you're you're punishing You're punishing a mediocre shot. Just as bad as you're punishing an awful shot. Yes. I was also expecting the win to blow a lot harder today Yeah, that was advertised. I know we got some reports. Yeah, we got some bad reports there. But you know, I mean, everybody says, you know, San Francisco, hey, this is a, this is a typical winter day in San Francisco. Winter in the middle of the song.
Starting point is 00:27:15 All right. You don't like the weather fails. Just wait for you. Wait 15 minutes. Yeah. It never fails to blow my mind. How cold and miserable it can get in San Francisco in June and July. Even when it's like a sunny day. Yeah. It'll get you television
Starting point is 00:27:32 wise. Got some takes. I think I don't know if we want to start with Sunday or the whole or the whole week in general. But yeah, let me, yeah, let me jump in and embrace progress. I thought, you know, I thought on the whole, I didn't have many complaints. I want to commend us GA for offering. And I think it was, I don't know who their sponsor was. Maybe American Express, they maybe deserve a shout out. The feature group coverage on Thursday and Friday was new this year, the online streaming feature groups, which, you know, badly needed, right, kind of modernizes the women's open. So I applaud them for that. I thought peacock was less intrusive or stressful than I was anticipating. I thought I was going to have to pay for
Starting point is 00:28:20 it, but I didn't have to do that. And the coverage itself golf channel, NBC, like QJUPS to Rolex, the commercials were not a factor. They showed a lot of golf, and I felt like I was at the event for a long time. I spent a lot of time at the event as a viewer, which I like. I switched over to the PGA tour. I feel like 10 minutes of on point and went and immediately back.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Yeah, and Jack was in the booth and all that. Like it was, it legitimately felt like they were covering a sporting event with the US women's open instead of just showing a golf tournament as a vehicle by which to show ads against. I agree with everything said said improvements across the board. I, it just didn't feel like NBC's best foot forward, you know? It didn't seem like there was a lot of experience and like committed commentary on the broadcast.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Sure. It, I know, I understand why and I want to give them a somewhat of a past knowing that they took this contract over from Fox, which like I don't want to give NBC the credit for no commercials because Fox signed this deal which ended up being a very bad deal which is why it's the only like series of events we get that are commercial free. NBC took it over for 30 cents on the dollar and is stuck with the same contract and that they can't run commercials during it now. But it just, you know, and they've got, listen, they've got PJ tour, you know, golf channel
Starting point is 00:29:53 coverage of the PJ tour going on right now. They got champions tour. They got tennis, I believe. They have gymnastics. They had the Belmont, right? Was that this week? They had something on Saturday that that preamp, on Saturday that made the coverage go to golf channel. So, we're stuck with very limited windows where they're on NBC.
Starting point is 00:30:12 They moved T times up on Sunday, play them in threes in the final round of a major to fit them in. Which sucks. It sucks. If you're gonna have it immediately on a west coast and not take advantage of the prime time. Like, that's what was felt weird That's what it was. That's what it was. That's what it was. That's what it was. That's what it was. That's what it was. That's what it was. That's what it was.
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Starting point is 00:30:45 Gymnastics Twitter is mad. They had their knives out. And it's an Olympic year and that's NBC's thing. But like, hey, maybe you shouldn't have all these events. Like if you can't do them all justice, then like, break up the bank here. Could be break up. You know, we need some separation of of church and state on some of these things
Starting point is 00:31:01 because it it if that's like of what the effort's gonna be, then that, you know, I don't think that's what the USGA would want. I don't think it's what the women want out on the tour, and I just don't think it's the best thing for women's golf. I think from a broadcast perspective, or from a broadcaster perspective, that's where it felt, and this is no slight on Morgan Presle, who I thought, you know, she's only been doing this
Starting point is 00:31:24 for a few weeks, I think. Like she was, I thought she was good and she had good things to add. It's tough spot for her to roll off the course and like hand, like someone she probably knows really well in Lexi and like be critical of her. Like that, she's not like a broadcaster yet, you know, like she's a player. We're like Rich Learner, Astor towards the end, if she, you know, if she thought that, that Lexi caved in and she kind of took Umberidge's her offense to it.
Starting point is 00:31:47 And I was like, yeah, that's exactly what happened. And then I thought K. Cockrole added some great nuggets, being a member there and knowing, you know, like that put on 18, she called that Nasa was gonna blow that pie. But at the end of the day, where's Judy Rankin? Yeah. Like she's the OG of women's golf commentary.
Starting point is 00:32:08 I'm sorry Tom Abbott just creeps me out a little bit. I struggle with it. I like Tom. I like Tom. I don't know. It's just there's like the the hushed tones with him. Karen Stuppels was like, where was she on the weekend? Yeah. She's been great. She's been in the booth for major championships before. And like, she, I really enjoy her
Starting point is 00:32:29 calm. I don't know. It's maybe nitpicking a little bit, but gosh, and maybe this is just a transition year with the Olympics not supposed to be in this year as it is. It's just a kind of a perfect storm leading up into to their big summer. But I don't know. I just didn't quite seem right. This was their one chance to like capture, you know, the memorial tournament, they're going up against the memorial, which I know Mike Wanness, you know, been on this podcast saying why that's actually a good thing for LPGA golf. I still just like don't, I don't love that. I don't like making golf fans choose between two tournaments, not everyone's flipping back between two events. And then you have it on the network TV and then you move it over for the last playoff hole, which again, I probably have millions of reasons why they did that, but like, that's
Starting point is 00:33:10 still sucked, right? I mean, I missed the T-Shots on nine. I didn't flip over in time. Yeah, well, I think it sucks too when you've got, like, mess with the competition to do this, right? Just teeing off early in the day in three sums off of two T's as well, like doing that for the final round with no weather, of course, of a men's major is like unheard of. We did it.
Starting point is 00:33:31 2019 masters because of the rain. But yeah, that came. Yeah. Like, there's a reason why you do this. And this was not that. And it makes it feel a little gimmicky. And I'm with you guys. I hate that.
Starting point is 00:33:43 And so I'm glad you said, like Mike Juan, I know, like maybe he gets a ratings, maybe they get a ratings juice by people flipping over. But I can't imagine that's very sticky. And I can't imagine that's the best way to go about it. Like on a long term strategic level. That that's stunk. I'm totally with you guys with that. Once I started thinking about like, smoothbiles and then gymnastics, I guess I got a little less heated about throwing the playoff over the golf channel, but it's just unfortunate that, you know, they're in such a bind that that had to happen. But like straight up smoothbiles is incredible. So it's like like truly one of the greatest to do what she does
Starting point is 00:34:26 in the history of sport. So I don't know. I'm a bit torn there, I guess. Yeah. Anything else from US women's up and we can save any other nuggets, maybe towards the end. What's a better scenario? Being all day, prime time on golf channel tonight or being, you know, being what they did today.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Three hours on, I guess four hours on NBC. I know I was thinking the same thing, Tron, like a part of me would have just rather been like, okay, let's keep with golf channel sent them up in two sums and, you know, we'll get that true prime time ending. I don't know, maybe a bit of a no in situation for NBC and golf channel in the powers that be, but I don't know, trying to cram them in there. It just felt like it was being manipulated. Like you said, like it felt like, you know, the competition was being messed with a little bit. Yeah, they don't, they don't bump like a big 10 basketball games that go long. Don't end up on a different channel right at the conclusion of play. You know, they, they put the golf that whatever the program, their preempting
Starting point is 00:35:34 goes to a different channel. And it just felt, felt weird doing that order. I could kind of see it kind of see it coming. That also was like, they wouldn't do that for a women's major. Like they totally wouldn't do that, right? And they did it. So maybe they're just ready to weather the storm and stand by that decision. But I know there's a lot of PGA news that we're going to get to. But I just want to maybe shout out a couple players, a couple performances this week before we put a bow on the on the US Open. You know, T.C. I know we got a lot of people we got our eyes on, where do we start?
Starting point is 00:36:06 But for me, it's, it's Angel, you'll in just how freaking talented she is, right? Three rounds of eight under cumulative golf at a US open and then that second round 79. She is so interesting and fun and outgoing. Sometimes I worry like I don't know how serious she takes her craft. That could be totally unfair, but I think just her personality gives me that type of vibe from time to time, but I really just hope she can put it all together because she's got immense immense talent. And that was on full display this week. So I wanted to shout her out. I mean, what a six place finished with a 79 in the second round? Yeah, I think in an alternate world, that's a, that's a four shot win for her, right?
Starting point is 00:36:53 Sean, Sean Feng, I want to shout out the two gloves. She has two different gloves that she used a different glove for chipping, which maybe, maybe we should look into that of us that are struggling with the chip again, but I've never heard of that. Kind of the same story for Brooke Henderson as, as, as, as I am. Joel, you know, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Shot 78 in a second round.
Starting point is 00:37:15 I was a little disappointed in Lee Six today. Yeah. 70, 76 today, seven three 76 on the weekend, definitely faded. I was expecting a little bit, a little bit more out of her. Good to see Lucy Lee. Chris V outfits all week. Looting around. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:31 LPGA major fashion versus the PGA tour major fashion is, like, one gets way better and one gets way worse. Like, take a look in the mirror, guys, this is how it's done. Lucy Lee, wearing the Nike stuff, like, well done. Lucy Lee wearing the Nike stuff like with as bad as the Nike stuff is on so many of the male players. It's equally as good on her. A couple of world class players. Jinyunco, Arya, Jitana Garn, I get out a little bit whiffs of the Rory uncompetitive top 10. You know, probably speaks out good. They are didn't didn't have their egg games this week, but but we're right up there in the top 10. Our young hitter, Madeline had a great 70 today.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Shout one under, uh, finished tied for 20th. Awesome result for her. Want to give her a shout out. T.C. Swedish women are coming. My start, the amateur, uh, it's unbelievable. What's going on over there? It really is. There's, there's,'s there's there's a host of them. There's like half a dozen of them that are in the amateur ranks that are that are that were prominently featured during the Augusta women or the Augusta women's amateur. Randy, I know you want to talk about Nelly Cordo a little bit.
Starting point is 00:38:40 You got some strong words. Big disappointment there. It was tough. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what went wrong there. She had nothing. I mean, she wasn't even close on the greens. Not even close off the tee. It was, I watched a good amount of her round on Thursday.
Starting point is 00:38:56 And it was not close. But the round was so slow that her and Jessica and Soya knew were like just chatting up on T-boxes. And they weren't flashing to any other groups so the cameras just stayed there. They had an interesting conversation on one of the T's but it was just like talking about a Korea versus US, like Ryder Cup style, Solheim Cup style event. And now it's just like, yeah, I don't know if we want
Starting point is 00:39:15 to get our asses beat, like Clear's Day, Cuttle camera. I really enjoyed that little nugget. They were roasting somebody else for being super slow. More of a T-Tanagarde. Like I think Moria knows she's slow and then they actually did cut away during that part. That was one of the things like Lexi's slow.
Starting point is 00:39:30 The pace of play out there this weekend was tough. Yes, very tough. I don't know what it was that Monday or Thursday Friday. They could not, what the traffic issue was there, but it was not a great showing on the pace play front. Last thing on Olympic, I love the fact that they tee off on nine instead of 10. I wonder if that's part of the pace problem though. I don't know why exactly.
Starting point is 00:39:55 I have to picture it in my head, but I hope I don't know if they timed that out right if they put the right balance on either side of the course, but it is a little funky. It's just one of those little idiotic secret season golf that, you know, always catches you off guard when they go there. Guys, uh, the first round leader, everybody's favorite Mel Reed 78 78 this weekend. I don't know if that's, you know, that's not quite the McKenzie Hughes, but, you know, maybe that's, that's the Mel Reed, the 78. Eight that T 46. And, uh, that was unfortunate. You know, maybe that's that's the Mel Reed the 78th at
Starting point is 00:40:33 246 and that was unfortunate. I got asked one more question that we absolutely would have asked for any men's major Overrunner on Yucas Saso majors 19 years old You got to set the overrunner if you're asking the question exactly No, I'm gonna set it and then let's just have some wild speculation before we move on. I'll set it at, you got to remember they play five a year. So let me set it at God, this feels like a lot, but I'll set it at three and a half. I will do exactly what I would do for a men's major, but I mean, heart says over brain says under. I was going to say four. So I'll go just just over. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:12 I'm really curious how how she backs us up because it's like what, you know, where's the hole in her game if she's playing well, right? Like she's got, she's got all the tools. And of course, we say that about everybody, but I mean, hell, why not? I'll pound the over to let's, you know, let's make her among the best ever play. No pressure there. Randy last thing on the Olympic front. I know we talked about a little bit on the on the pregame show today. And I don't think we got enough burger Dog content this week.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Do you consider the Burger Dog a sandwich? And do you think it's overrated? I think great questions. I do think it's a sandwich. And I actually do not think it's overrated. I thought it was very tasty. And it came in with a lot of hype. And those first burger dogs that you and I had T.C.
Starting point is 00:42:03 I think they lived up to it for me. It's a great delivery mechanism for beef. But it's also just a burger shaped differently, correct? No, it tastes different. Oh, absolutely. Thank you. All right, that's all I'm saying. I'm not saying it's overrated.
Starting point is 00:42:18 I've never had it. I'm just saying like, all right, it's a hot dog shaped burger. That's all I'm saying. I thought it was like a hot dog with beef and I got like a hamburger beef in the middle and initially, but anyways. All right, I think we could put a pin
Starting point is 00:42:33 in the US women's open. Let's go, let's go, John Rom, first. I think that's, that was probably the biggest story of the week. You know, I don't really even know where to start. I wasn't really watching very closely on Saturday, but kind of flipped over. I had two devices going. See, Ram just pouring in birdie after birdie after birdie, shoot 64. And then CPS is getting ready to go off the air.
Starting point is 00:42:58 And they health officials are wearing masks come up to Ram and he just like sinks into the ground, like almost slams the ground and says, no, not again. And like CPS just goes like quiet, like eerily quiet. And they were ready to go off the air. And they stuck with it and like didn't say a word. And I want like my reaction, wanted to be like, guys, like fill us in on what's going on here. After the fact, it breaks a ton of sense as to why they said nothing. And I commend them for actually how they handled this. That ROMs informed that he had a positive COVID test
Starting point is 00:43:34 as he was in close contact with someone who had COVID, which required him to be tested every day this week. The report so that he got his first vaccination shot on site this week after being exposed. It was negative every day this week. Saturday's test came back positive at 4.20 PM. It was tested again and at 605, a second positive test was confirmed.
Starting point is 00:43:56 And that's where they greeted him coming off the 18th green to tell him that he had tested positive and would have to withdraw. And that was, it took like a year to happen, but I would say that as is as close to like the nightmare COVID withdrawal situation that the tour could, anyone on tour could imagine. The only thing that would have been worse
Starting point is 00:44:12 is if the test would have come back, say beginning in the back nine or something. Yeah, you got to pull them off the golf course. Yeah, just to, I was watching it on mute, I was at a neighborhood barbecue, watching it on mute as I was at a neighborhood barbecue watching on mute Not you know, I was thinking oh my gosh did did something happen to a family member or based on this reaction and then no one saying anything Not being a rules official coming up to him like that's an I didn't go there initially But like and hindsight was like yeah, that would have made a lot of sense for that reaction
Starting point is 00:44:41 So I guess in that scenario is probably What happened is probably good news, considering all of the possibilities and everything. It just seems a little bit, I guess we're just as a country or as a society, we're kind of stuck between release patterns a little bit, right? I would definitely agree with that. It's like really tough to marry. So let's get this in first.
Starting point is 00:45:06 I don't think I feel bad for ROM. If musters more to the story that I don't know, and that he was not vaccinated and could have prevented this in theory, if you are vaccinated on the PGA tour and you have over 14 days since your vaccination date, you are not you are considered fully vaccinated and you do or not required to be tested, even if you're exposed to somebody with COVID. And that if he would have been vaccinated, he would have been prevented from testing and would have prevented from,
Starting point is 00:45:33 in theory from contracting COVID. And he knew the protocols. Yes. And, you know, so it was black and white, right? So it was a surprise to us, but it couldn't have been a surprise to John, honestly, as of what, that he tested positive by Saturday, right? I mean, he was tested every day that week and was exposed to somebody with COVID.
Starting point is 00:45:50 So like that, and he's not vaccinated. So like that, he was shocked, of course, and heartbroken, I'm sure, when that happened, but like he was, it was especially a shock to all of us, but he knew better than anyone, what that was going to mean when they came out from that 18th crane. Yeah, just to put a fine point on it, he not only did he know, I, you know, he had to enter this contact tracing protocol on Monday. So like, you know, I'm sure it was put to him on the 31st when they figured out, you know, he had been in close contact with somebody that tested positive.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Like, hey, you can withdraw right now. But it was like, you know, if I test positive, it almost seemed like a roll of the dice. And it just came up, you know, he crapped out in the end. So I'm with you guys. It's like the policy itself, pretty black and white. I have a hard time like feeling awful for him. But I do have sympathy just for the larger, you know, being stuck with
Starting point is 00:46:47 like one foot in one foot out kind of where we are as a society. I'd say largely, you know, not to get whatever, but like if everybody just got vaccinated, this wouldn't be an issue. So I don't know, I guess that's where I net out. I also have, you know, I have like, I'm fully Vax, but I have empathy for those who, if you don't, for whatever reason, don't want to get Vax, or you think there's, there's downside risk there, and you know, you want to see how it plays out.
Starting point is 00:47:15 You know, I get that, you're, and you're accepting the risk of doing that. And, and I see what the PGA Tours trying to do, right? They're trying to incentivize players to get vaccinated through this policy. But, you know, so looking at the policy just in and of itself without that context, you'd think, all right, like, is there any reason why this guy can't just play by himself, play with him, ask on, it's outside
Starting point is 00:47:42 that sort of thing, but then you look at it in the totality of what they're trying to achieve through the policy. And I bet this scenario, this situation makes a lot of these guys probably think twice about, because they're spending so much time on their swings or on every little detail or every little variable of their game. This one, I mean, not just did it cost Rob the $1.7 million that he would have won on this. He would have gone from 15th in the FedEx cup to probably top six or seven. And you know, that's
Starting point is 00:48:13 that's probably another million or two dollars right there at the end of the season. Plus performance bonuses. You know, and then, and then, and then you're getting in such a, it's such a loose, loose situation for the PGA tour because you've got on the one hand, you know, everybody looks back to what happened at the PGA championship, for instance, where, you know, it's just a spectator's run a muck full capacity, all that. And then, you know, kind of going back to this, it's a little bit, you know, it's like, hey, which which way is it, right?
Starting point is 00:48:47 And then, and then on the flip side, you get all these guys, you know, the hyper conservative, like the Jimmy walkers, who are basically gonna like use this as their like anti-vax waterloo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:02 It's interesting to marry with, how do I say this? Things have changed in this country, especially over the last like five months. If we're talking COVID cases in the US as of five months ago on this day, 255,000 and COVID cases reported on June 5, 10,000, 437. Like it is COVID's on the run, right? It's, it's, there's a lot of vaccinated people are contributing to that. Hopefully everyone that's it's at high risk is, is been vaccinated probably less testing as well. Like it's yeah, so less testing. And so there are, you know, policies have been relaxed, right? Fans are, it's just hard to marry like, Ram having to withdraw with like just tons of maskless fans
Starting point is 00:49:46 walking around every every week now. You know what I mean? Like there's not really actually preventive measures going in. I don't know. Maybe that's exactly the reason why he needs to withdraw. Now that I say that out loud, but it just is, I know, I come back to like you, this was avoidable and you could have been vaccinated. And I am, you know, this is a risk you're gonna run. Any of the, almost 50% of the tour players that aren't vaccinated according to the tour, this is the risk you run and it's amazing. Somebody tweeted like, yeah, this is gonna,
Starting point is 00:50:15 this is gonna cause a big run on people, on tour pros to get vaccinated. It was like, this is what's gonna cause it? Like not the last year of like us waiting for this vaccination. It's one guy finally getting popped in the most costly way that it's going to make you do it, but I don't know. That's kind of where I net out. I know I'm sure no one out there listening to this has any COVID takes at all. So I'm sure this will be well received by 100 population,
Starting point is 00:50:37 but like it's it's extremely gray at a certain level and it's extremely black and white on like this was preventable. I just think it like I know why they haven't, but at the end of the day, the PGA tours protocols and policy hasn't kept up with the reality of the situation. Right. Well, but but they're trying to follow. I mean, they're they're following what like the CDC and the government is saying. So, I, you know, their hands are a little bit tied in terms of, they can't just like break away and go rogue. I think that would bring much more headache than keeping this policy would. But I mean, it sounds like like on the Champions tour,
Starting point is 00:51:20 there was a threat of a lawsuit from several players and they've basically dropped testing on the champion's tour. Really? Yeah. For some. I don't know the veracity of that, but you know. It's just, I mean, it's a total lose lose, right? It sucks.
Starting point is 00:51:39 There's nothing good about it. There's no good way around it, right? There's not, and again, when I say things have changed, like the whole huge part, huge reasoning behind why this virus needed to be taken very seriously from the beginning was that when no one was vaccinated and there was a big portion of our population and population around the world that would be high risk if they contracted it, we needed to prevent
Starting point is 00:52:08 it spreading from basically everyone to eventually reaching those people, right? I would assume that, you know, like John Romney himself is not high risk for this virus and the risk of him spreading it to somebody that is high risk is hopefully much less considering all the vaccinations. That's where I'm at. It's like, hey, we've caught, like, you know, the high risk population has been. Has had plenty of time to get vaccinated. And again, maybe there's other reasons, you know, why that they can't get vaccinated,
Starting point is 00:52:34 but you're probably, you're gonna have to live with this for reality or for eternity, really, into the future. But I don't know. It's a perfect lightning rod at a time where it kind of felt like we were on the other side of this and And yeah, it's it was a wild wild sequence of events I was not in any way claiming for special treatment for rom from the tour I think the tour had no responsibility to let them go play by himself or send them out first or let them play with the mask
Starting point is 00:52:59 I think the rule was the rule when the week started and you can't change that midweek That would have been unfair, really. I think they took a little bit of unfair flack from people for saying, hey, why did you do this behind the 18th green? Well, they're not gonna let them go into scoring or into the clubhouse. Well, he was supposed to be following
Starting point is 00:53:18 a separate protocol anyways. He was in a separate locker room, I think, because he was in the contract, contact tracing protocol, what not. But yeah, I was, so if that's the case, and don't let him shake hands with people, he was shaking hands with people on the 18th green. And the, and the health official, even I'm assuming he was vaccinated, but he comes up and pats him on the back and what not to tell him he's COVID positive. It's just, it's all confusing for people, man. Like, this is a very confusing time for everyone with a lot of information out there
Starting point is 00:53:46 that only a percentage of it is accurate. And like, it's just like really hard to marry all these things for everyone taking this in. And the fact that he had a fucking six shot lead. Oh my God. That's the thing that's crazy to me. It's like, it's not like he was tied for the lead or one up or two up.
Starting point is 00:54:02 He was up six shots and like playing some of the best golf I've ever seen him play. If this was the cat, would they have, how would this have played out? Cats got a six shot lead. He's been in contact tracing the whole week. He's not vaccinated. How would they have played this out? I mean, the same way they have handled all this drug testing for the last. There's no way they bring him off the course. Marriott. Marriott. Marriott. Marriott. We find out one day. Yeah, he test positive on Tuesday or Wednesday. I'll say, you know, all these guys with some strong opinions, like, why don't, you know, it'd be cool if these guys all chipped, Ram off like 1.6 million proportionately, you know, like, can't like and put a big portion of his
Starting point is 00:54:45 winning check. And he walked with them. He's six. Exactly. Like, that'd be cool. Why don't you guys recognize, do you think one the tournament, nothing stopping him from doing that? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:58 And so, Ram is in isolation. Won't be able to show up to, to, uh, to Tori until Wednesday of that week. That's just when his 10 days is. And it's not like he has a good record at Tori until Wednesday of that week. That's when it's 10 days. And it's not like he has a good record at Tori or anything, you know? I mean, if I'm him, I do want to play a lot more golf than he's going to be able to play out there in terms of playing that course, what you used to and playing in US Open conditions. But it's tough. It's tough. It's, again, like I said, it seems like a very preventable thing and I'll keep using the qualifier unless there's more to this that I don't know if I think
Starting point is 00:55:29 we're going to find out probably shortly this week where, you know, who the person was that he came in contact with and, you know, it's just a very weird situation that... How are the... There's a lightning rod on Twitter. How are the course changes? You like them? I didn't watch enough of it. I don't think I did either.
Starting point is 00:55:48 I mean, I watched, I had kind of one of the background. It was just tough to do to watch all the golf this weekend. You know, for me personally, growing up, you know, five minutes from that course and going to that tournament every year, I held the course in such high regard as because it was where I learned PGA tour golf. It was, you know, mecca for me as a kid. I guess maybe once a year when I played high school golf. And now it looks very foreign to me.
Starting point is 00:56:10 And I just feel very disconnected from it. And I, it, you know, it's a tournament that I've always, I'm realizing more and more is make so much sense when you're there. The shots look so difficult. You have great appreciation for the pros. You have great viewing angles. It is one of the best spectator courses,
Starting point is 00:56:27 one of the best tournaments you can attend. And it just doesn't quite translate to TV. The more I get removed from it. So I hope to go to it next year, just because I miss going to the memorial and seeing people and hanging out of my hometown tournament. But I don't know if it was just
Starting point is 00:56:42 because I was distracted by the women's major, but it just didn't, did not capture me this week. I think the changes are overall positive for the most part. I liked 15. 15's way better, 16's better. That was horrible. 16 still sucks. It's better.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Yeah. Seven. I like 17. I like what they did there, like what they did on the front nine with one, four. Like there's, there's some in five, like five, I thought five was probably the best of actually challenging these guys. That was the intent of the...
Starting point is 00:57:11 Yeah. Which, yeah, we can't lay one by the way, we haven't mentioned that, but apparently didn't change too much because he's won this tournament in the past and I wasn't really dialed in though, I got admit to like the matchup just because it was like
Starting point is 00:57:25 I said, concluding at the same time the women's major. How did how did more call a putt? Putt it well this week. He was making a lot of plots. I saw him missed a four footer. He was six and strokes game putting this week. It's tough to critique the putting, which I was just suggesting. I think you should try a new putter every week. It's the stranger endless honeymoon period, just a new one every week. You can just keep catching these, you know, lightning putting weeks in a bottle. That's what I'm doing right now. Lefty, righty, cross handed, putted my ass off at at San Valley this week after having probably 40 something puts the week prior.
Starting point is 00:58:00 So that's that's the ticket, man. Yeah. So that's that's the ticket, man. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think more Kawa you've got Scotty Shuffler finished two back with a shank today. That was a bad shank. That was tough. Some juicy rough out there. Which contribute like watching two tournaments with thick juicy rough, like warm me out. It's just where some of these shots come to rest and the like the the next shot being dictated exactly how you should play it. Uh, that's, that just kind of wears me out eventually. But yeah, P finished solo fifth.
Starting point is 00:58:30 You, you starting to get worried he's going to play himself onto the, not on points. Yeah, right. I'm not worried about that. I mean, he, he notches a winner to down the stretch. Maybe. Yeah. If he probably deserves it, if he does that, um, I know the tournaments called them a moral tournament.
Starting point is 00:58:44 And it's right after a moral day. Remember how fun this tournament was in July last year? Yeah. And it got firm. There wasn't the spring rainstorms that happened pretty much every year. There wasn't the cotton. The cotton, whatever those cotton would, whatever those white fuzzy things that fly around
Starting point is 00:58:58 in the air everywhere. It's a tough time of year to having a golf tournament. There's plenty of data that supports that. I love this in the summer. I wish I didn't guys I didn't watch. I think I watched maybe two shots. What were the cicadas? A big thing though, because I am telling you having just got back from Cincinnati and the rest, they are bucking. It was unbelievable. It was like haunting for that to be like, be the mark that signified 17 years since my high school graduation.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Because they were. I was a graduation going to college that whole summer. The whole summer. The whole summer, they were just bucking their heads. And they actually, they showed a highlight from, I didn't say what year was on Twitter. They had a Tiger highlight playing. I clicked it.
Starting point is 00:59:40 I heard this cicada says, oh, that's a 2004 highlight. There it is right there. But yeah, it's certain parts of the course. It was actually pretty annoying to watch. I think going back to last year, I struggled to differentiate the work day and the memorial. It was like one, two week tournament to me, right?
Starting point is 00:59:56 Which one did more of the comments? You worked the first one. Yeah. Later, it's like Zoolander. It's the same look. It's the same thing. But the fact that they could kind of kill the greens off and do whatever one of that second week was that contributed to the furnace. But like they, those greens could have survived, you
Starting point is 01:00:13 know, it can get firmer out there. And it just always rains this week. And that course is going to play pillow soft when it rains. But they did move the tee up on one of the days on 14, which they don't usually do it the memorial. They did it the work day last year. As reported first on the NLU Crash Course Pod. Yes. We had the superintendent and general manager of both those guys on that Crash Course Pod. They mentioned that.
Starting point is 01:00:39 They said, yeah, we're excited about it. We're gonna give some new looks to these guys this year, which is full support of. And some guys went for it. A lot of guys went for it. And, you know, it's a true risk reward shot. And I'm not positive that the right move is to go for the green. Lee schnapped it on there and made Eagle, which was sweet.
Starting point is 01:00:55 But, yeah, it makes that whole way more interesting. Otherwise, everyone's hitting like the same exact shot. Yeah. It's a great, great hole. I mean, that's one that'll always recall fondly from watching and playing. I'll always remember that you used to have a volunteer there who overdo this volunteer. Yeah. Yeah. Like no other volunteer. I've come across since. Your field village has a plenty of overzealous volunteers. Behind the green on 14. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:01:24 just patrolling inside of the walkway. Kind of over to the volunteers behind the green on 14. Yeah, just patrol on the inside of the walkway kind of over to the left a little bit, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure we got more to get some various nuggets from the week before we do that. And off course, we got to talk Brooks Bryson. I wanted to give a shout out to our friends at RAPSOTO. You guys have heard us talk a lot about this mobile launch monitor. Fits right on our golf bag. You don't even have to think about bringing it to the course. I carry it with me at all times. You know, if things maybe aren't going right and I need a practice session after around, whip the thing out in two seconds and press a button and connect it
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Starting point is 01:03:14 as like, I just don't know what's going on. Can you explain it to me? Gosh, where do we start? I mean, you're at least caught up to date as to what happened last week with the PGA championship video, right? I know the meme. Yeah, Brooks with the interview and Bryson walks behind him. So I'm good from there, but like what specifically was going on this week? So here's what happens. Brooks, so in that happening,
Starting point is 01:03:40 the match was announced. The match 4.0 was announced and Bryson is pairing up with Aaron Rodgers. Brooks tweets out, sorry bro, at Aaron Rodgers on Twitter and everyone goes nuts. And Bryson replies, it's nice living rent free in your head, which is like the most Bryson trash talk ever. Brooks replies with a Snapchat video from someone in the crowd at Kiowa. Bryson hits a shot and somebody yells, nice shot, Brooksie. And Bryson does the exact wrong thing you should do in the scenario, turns around and says, whoever's saying, Brooksie needs to get out of here. And of course, like that's just going to encourage more people to do it.
Starting point is 01:04:20 In fact, the part in my take podcast put a call out for listeners to say this to Bryson during tournaments. So of course this happens on Friday, on repeat, Bryson seems very well prepared for it. And then there were police following the group. I don't know if they were there from the first hole. And it is reported widely reported that they're removing anyone from the grounds that yells out Brooksie at Bryson after any shot, which couldn't, no one in this scenario is playing this right. Bryson is doing the exact wrong thing you should do.
Starting point is 01:04:52 I don't know why the tour is like letting Bryson do this. I don't know what the policy is there. So is it coming down straight from Bryson? I assume it's coming from his team of some kind. Like Bryson tried to play it cool, like oh yeah, no, I'm flattered by it. Like, it's totally cool. I'm totally cool with it.
Starting point is 01:05:08 When obviously that's not the case. Like, it is not measuring up at all. And then after the round, Brooks tweets out a video. He says, hey guys, it's Brooksy. And says, you know, I heard some of you got your day cut short at the golf tournament today. So, Mick Loeb, Ultra wants to provide, you know, I heard some of you got your day cut short at the golf tournament today. So Mick Loeb, ultra wants to provide every, you know, if you got kicked out DM them and we'll provide you with a free case of beer. Which mind you is the official beer of the PGA tour?
Starting point is 01:05:33 Correct. So Brux turns this kind of taunting thing going on at Bryson into an activation with Mick Ultra. And that's 2021. Yes. Love a good activation. So this is where it's complicated. And like my immediate reaction to it, you know, I was kind of like, you mean, I kind of need some time to process this, but like, man, this feels kind of gross. Like just encouraging heckling of another player,
Starting point is 01:05:59 one and two, getting a brand involved with it. I'm like, Brooks, I kind of thought you were like the cool guy here, and this is, I don't know. And a lot of people did not agree with that on Twitter. I'm not surprised. There is a vocal group of people that just worship the ground that Brooks walks on. And I think that there's a line to be drawn somewhere
Starting point is 01:06:20 in this, I think everyone can agree on that. And at minimum, I would say that this gets close to the line and I believe that I'm leaning that this is probably over the line. I think two things are interesting with Brooks. One that last week or a couple of weeks ago at the PGH Championship, he was bitching after the final round about, you know, somebody almost took out my knee.
Starting point is 01:06:40 He did not care for the fans at that point. Yeah, and so, and then be like, you know, the fans are back in a big way. And I think Bryson would have been, you know, over the last year, year and a half, Bryson and Reed have been totally let off the hook by not having fans, right? Because they're both, I mean, like, I'm in,
Starting point is 01:06:58 so, Sally, I totally, I agree with, and understand what you're saying, but at the end of the day, I'm firmly in the like, fuck price in it all costs. Like that guy sucks. He's brought all this on himself. And I'm okay with the natural element of that happening and fans reaching their own conclusion on that
Starting point is 01:07:16 and like deriding him and like the breed thing happening in Australia and the president's cup and the shovel thing and all that. Like that was natural. Like that was a natural fan reaction. Nobody told them to do that. Like that was, you know, their reaction to what they witnessed on television out of Reed.
Starting point is 01:07:32 And if fans had gotten there on their own, like, I feel better about another player, like rallying a group of people to do this in a competition, right? And there were a couple reports from Bryce and this happened once or twice during backswings or before shots. And like, all right, even if we're saying this is, you know, I don't think there's a realistic situation where we can call on this to happen from fans,
Starting point is 01:07:55 and it be totally limited to after the shot. Like some assholes gonna always want to up the ante. And in the context now, now you have, you have live betting all these like where is this gonna stop and I I get like the a lot of people chime in like this is what you guys wanted like you wanted chaos and all that I'm like I get where you kind of can it can look like I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth and maybe I am but we all have to agree there is a line with it somewhere
Starting point is 01:08:22 right if Brooks and and Bryson get knives out and start sword fighting in the fairway, we agree that's over the line, right? Well, I just think it's- As entertaining as that would be. I just think at some point, Brooks needs to stop being kind of passive aggressive and just come out and say, like, yo, I don't, like, supposedly he was the one that leaked the video. Yes. And, you know, it just seems like he's like, you know, totally dancing around this.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Just come out and say, like, yo, I don't like this, dude. I think he's a tool, dot, dot, all. Instead of, you know, instead of just dancing around the issue, my big thing with Brooks is all this just feels like he's trying to get the pit money. And he's trying, I guarantee you that these two guys play in the match, whatever, the match six or seven this fall, it'll be Bryson versus Brooks. And that'll, like, that'll be something and they're trying to juice the payout for that.
Starting point is 01:09:13 I don't, I think that it's, that it's a very real rivalry and this, they're not like in on this together. Like I, I hope we end up with something like that, but I don't think that this was born out of that, you know what I mean? Somebody's gonna capitalize off this at some point, but I think this is a very real thing. And I think it, I don't know, it just, where I'm at, in competition,
Starting point is 01:09:35 another player rallying people to do that. It's like outsourcing his fight. It was kind of fun when you were dunking on him online. It was one-liners and all this, but like, gosh, I don't like it where like Brooks is so punching down in this. Like he's winning 99 to one. And he's up here just like punching down on repeat. And I don't, it's not going to stop.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Like if that, it's kind of stuff is encouraged, then it's only going to get worse. And that just think that, I don't know, I got it. I just didn't sit great with me. I didn't think that was cool. I gotta say too, I think that the people who said, like, this is bullying, like, brand will count and say, this is bullying. I thought that was bullshit though too, right?
Starting point is 01:10:14 Like, they're calling the guy, they're calling the guy Bruxy. I mean, yeah, but it's clearly something that annoys him and like that, bullying is like too strong of a word for like what real and actual bullying is and the consequences of that, I agree. But it's in the same vein. I mean, this is a guy that made a,
Starting point is 01:10:36 what a four minute video of himself like frying bacon and working out and his whole gym and all that. Bryson gives us so many reasons to make fun of him. I just like, I really think there's a difference between doing it in competition. And, you know, even face to face afterward of some kind is a very different situation than in competition.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Is that fair? Randy, where do you, where do you get out of here? Yeah, I think this is great. I appreciate, you know, you guys bringing me up to speed. Uh, yeah,'s so few things. I've long, you know, wanted to lean into villains and heels and I think what makes me anxious and you guys have said it. Like, I just want some genuine bitterness or hatred or animosity. Like, that's what I want. When it's so quickly turns to brand activations and you kind of see behind the curtain,
Starting point is 01:11:28 that's when it almost makes it even worse than just be class X, right? Like, I don't want fake, staged, doing it for the PIP shenanigans. That's the worst of the worst. So I guess a little disappointing from there because I think last week there was genuine giddiness on my part, like, yeah, these guys, like don't like each other. And that's a lot of fun. And I'm there with you too. Yeah. If it's kind of a
Starting point is 01:11:55 ruse, then I'm a bit out on that. Yeah. You know, I think it kind of makes a mockery of actual issue of bullying to attach that to what's going on here. You know, I think it kind of makes a mockery of actual issue of bullying to attach that to what's going on here. You know, Bryson, certainly, handle his business. And, you know, if you do certain things, you got to expect to take a little bit of ribbing. So I, I'm with you on that T.C. I think that's a bit miss. Go back to Brooks. But sorry, Brooks always wants to be considered a real athlete, you know, real like, yo, like guys in the NFL or guys in NHL, like they fight,
Starting point is 01:12:30 right? Or they talk shit and they say, yeah, I just straight up don't like that guy. They don't rally and incentivize the crowd to do the fighting on their behalf. Like you just like, that's so true. You're bringing them into like a space where you can't even like,
Starting point is 01:12:45 like any reaction he has, he has to, I guess just putting him in a really tough spot. And I hate being the one like to defend Bryson because I'm not a Bryson fan. I appreciate all the content he gives us. Again, he's a, he's a, he's a showed for lack of a better words in so many ways. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:12:59 We'll continue to make fun of him for a lot of things, but like, I just again, I, Randy, are you with me on that? Like doing this in competition and rallying other people to have your fight is, is where it's very fair to draw the line? And would you, would you draw the line there? Yeah, it's, it's a bridge to like, I don't know if that makes me an us sound like funny, dirty old school, like keepers of the game.
Starting point is 01:13:23 That's fine. But that's like you said, Tron, like if you guys have a problem with each other, talk about it outside the locker room and maybe exchange some blows. But whatever they're doing here is not for me. Let me ask you guys something. How long has Baba Booey been in our lives on the golf course? Too long.
Starting point is 01:13:44 That was started as a ruse from Stern. Like, it's like, hey, we're sending our people out there to go yell this at golf tournaments. And it's stuck around for two decades. Like, this is not dissimilar to that. Like, if it doesn't stop, like, it's just gonna get yelled at him for however many years. If it continues to be encouraged, like, that's not fun.
Starting point is 01:14:02 It's gonna be mashed potatoes guy, getting the whole guy. Does anybody like that guy? I will say, I think that at the very end of the US one. So I've been today somebody out flavor town. That's that's that's that's a funny one. I'm not sure man guy theory. Which I actually left. Yeah, I believe it was on Lexi's horrendously short put on 18. The flavor which we've been consistent with this in the past that a good, funny post shot unique yell is something that will celebrate.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Something that's not recycled. Yeah, it's unique. Yes, so I thought Aiman Lynch summed it up great. I got a couple of quotes from his article. He said, there's many valid reasons. Again, like not to, I'm not defending Bryson too much here. Like Bryson is to blame one for just like feeding into this. Just being true.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Yeah. And he says there's many valid, valid reasons to show loud now it's the door to golf tournament, but the sin of calling someone Brooksie ain't among them. I agree. Tuning out Heckler's is a basic requirement for any professional athlete. Perhaps realizing that no one likes a whiny snitch, D-Shambo attempted to diffuse things after his round, saying the name calling was flattering, but his inability to ignore the taunts
Starting point is 01:15:11 is just likely to draw more. All the in agreement there. He also says this is sport for Keppka and he's damned good at it, but his free beer for boar stunt crosses the line from entertaining fans to enlisting them as code conspirators. He must know the effect will be to incite more heckling of a fellow competitor that's a dangerous game stunt crosses the line from entertaining fans to enlisting them as code conspirators. He must know the effect will be to incite more heckling of a fellow competitor that's a dangerous
Starting point is 01:15:28 game to play these days. Ask Tray Young who was spit on by a fan or Russell Westbrook who had popcorn dumped on him or Kyrie Irving who's head was the target of a tossed water bottle. There's a cancer, metacizing in American sport of people who believe that buying a ticket to makes them an actor in the action, not merely a spectator to it. Of course, he's not saying this happening is comparable to, you know, somebody's spinning on a player, but like that's what he's saying here is there's a path this leads to where that becomes more likely reality than putting a stop to it.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Is that fair? I think that's very fair and I would just say there are certain spots on a golf course. Really a lot of spots on a golf course where those guys are more vulnerable than, you know, NBA, MLB NFL players who are a little bit vulnerable themselves, but you know, we've all been to golf tournaments. If somebody has too many beers and takes it over the line and something happens, I agree with Aiman, it's asking for trouble. 2016 Ryder Cup, the things that were youted
Starting point is 01:16:35 that European team made me uncomfortable. If golf tournament start turning into that, I am out on that environment. I mean, people just going in Rory's face, suck my dick, Rory. Like it was uncomfortable. And like that is, okay, that makes me a curmudgeon when it comes to the game of golf, so out on that. That is not, that's not fun.
Starting point is 01:16:56 And here's where, all right. So here's where Brooks, like really starts to lose it. How he tries to like have his cake and eat it too. He says, he says, he says, to Aiman Lynch, I never condone anyone being a distraction during someone's swing or when they're about to hit. As professionals, we do enjoy fans getting engaged at the appropriate times as part of sport and competition.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Hecklers are always going to be part of any live performance. We all know that they're out there. We all get called different names. I've been called DJ many times, even when I was slipping at Beth Page. It's part of it. He even said he considers it flattering. It's like, that's just such bullshit right there.
Starting point is 01:17:28 Like you know, he doesn't consider it flattering. He's trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube. And then he says, with the Mick Ultras, I wanted fans to know I saw what was going on and I appreciate the fans who care about golf. It's great to see fans out there loving it, having a, having fun after a year of no one. I'm not condoning disrespectful or inappropriate behavior. I'm engaging in helping grow the game of golf
Starting point is 01:17:51 and growing the tour. I'm here for people being engaged and excited about golf as long as it doesn't cross the line. I would put this directly at the feet of our friend, Joe or Curie, the mastermind behind the live under par campaign, right? Right. You know, this is straight out of the live under par playbook. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:13 So that's just falling back on, grow the game is again where I'm like, why is this being celebrated as a cool move? Like it was, it was fun, dude, when you were taunting, you know, when Bryson made fun of your abs and you said, yeah, I'm too trophy short of a six pack. Like, that's a great taunt. Like, that's funny. Like the steroid, the steroid jiff after he won last summer. Like, that's pretty funny.
Starting point is 01:18:35 Maybe pretty borderline close to the line, but pretty funny. But that was, that was, well within the line. But that's great. But again, that, I've made the point many times now, rallying the fans, that's just cheap. There's a reason why no one has done that in golf, like history. I don't affect that he wasn't even playing this week. We talked about Brooks all week and he wasn't even in the field. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:59 So R3H4B 2025, come on, we need some better handles and sending questions. Do you think the PGA should step in and the Brooks and Bryson feud? I'm sure they've already done so behind closed doors, right? I mean, I'm sure somebody at Mikult forgot a phone call on Friday night, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:20 I don't know, it's kind of like Bryson is put in an uninvial position of like, no matter what he does here, it's kind of like, Bryson is put in an unenvealed position of like, no matter what he does here, it's gonna probably make things worse. So he just has like, whether the storm out on this and, you know, I don't know. It just went from fun to, it's still like relatively harmless, but like,
Starting point is 01:19:37 I don't know, it's not gonna end well. I really don't think it's gonna end well. If a golf tournament gets, if we get to the point where people are screaming and people's backswings when millions of dollars on the line and a lot of people are betting on this stuff, like I'm out on that. I agree, totally.
Starting point is 01:19:50 I think the loss in this is, or I guess going back to the original point is what's, I think these are two guys that desperately need the money, too, right? Like they spend, they spend, they have an appetite for the money. Like they spend, they spend, they have an appetite for the money. Like they spend, they're trying to leverage their brands, their personas for this more than, more than some of the other guys out there.
Starting point is 01:20:12 I would agree with that. I don't know how badly they need it, but I know that they both, one, especially one of them loves showing off the amount in their bank account and one of them, the other one loves spending money maybe to his detriment. Exactly. You can probably figure that out on your own.
Starting point is 01:20:27 But other, other notes from the tournament, Ricky gets inside the top 125, Randy finishes past it finishes T 11 69 75 70 up to 110. Some signs of life. Hey, signs of life. Is he into the into the US opener now? Or tomorrow? Is he's playing tomorrow? Golf's long as day.
Starting point is 01:20:50 I can't keep his special exemptions. He got what, what exemption did he get earlier? Was that for the PGA? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I think of Ricky gets in. I think Ricky and Fina are both threats at Tori, which we can debate the marital territory
Starting point is 01:21:08 and whether this is an actual US open or not. But, and then, I'm trying to think who else kind of... You know who else is back? Justine is back. Oh. We almost forgot about T.C. Yeah, T.C. and Vokter. T.C. was like one of the bathroom and said, Bloody Mary, three times.
Starting point is 01:21:27 She hadn't been involved in the scene since, since, from about four or five months, I don't think. Since the incident where she accidentally, you know, tweeted the wrong, on the wrong account, and the, the fateful day at Farmers. Yeah, I went after, um, cast cast is it castor or castore? Yeah. The apparel company that partnered, I'm not sure if they're still
Starting point is 01:21:50 partnered with P, but they did a whole big thing. He was plastered all over the website. He's no longer, he wasn't wearing, he was wearing his old store bot G4 stuff that he self-embroidered in everything this week, not wearing the cast story stuff. I called into question and I said, hey, did they finally vet this or what? Because I think there are only other guys, Torvjorn Olison as well.
Starting point is 01:22:13 And she did not take kindly to that. Called me, called me troll. Your name, your name should just be troll, not Tron. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Anyhow, cast stories just coming out with their golf line. Geez, give people a break or get a life. Why do you care what P. Reed wears anyway? Jealous much? Roll P. Reed roll.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Roll. What's roll P. Roll. Roll P. Uh, and then and then she, she replied to my follow up tweet with the exact same thing. Oh, it is. A copy paste. I see that.
Starting point is 01:22:43 And this was at 3 a.m. Eastern. I mean, this is, you know, I feel like she's, she might be slipping a little bit or this is the mother-in-law. It's not, it's not, it's not J. It's, uh, it's Janet. Oh my God. I didn't even see where she, uh, she, she, she, she, she comes in to defend Torbjorn Olison. Yeah. Where, you know, somebody says, take a while,
Starting point is 01:23:04 guess it and say that they, they don't do their research. We can just Torbjorn Olsen famously, I believe it was some sort of harassment of somebody on a plane when he was over served. She said, talk about ignorance. Who would over serve someone alcohol at 40,000 feet in the air or over serve anyone period? Do your research, alcohol at 40K
Starting point is 01:23:21 out the two can be a dangerous combination for anyone. I don't make excuses, but this is my opinion based on physiology and science. Does she realize how like, pressurization of aircraft works? I don't, it does not appear. Well, she understood. I don't know if that was factored in the physiology and science. I can't really tell, but the tweet just cuts off there. Yeah, and then yeah, she's back. Randy, incidentally, this castore company, they also outfit McLaren, F1 team, and then yeah, she's back Randy incidentally this cast or company. They also outfit McLaren F1 team and then I guess a couple of English primarily clubs and there's there's been a whole big kerfuffle that they they haven't been able to get them the uniforms on time. So
Starting point is 01:23:56 Hate that hate that I don't have to talk to my guys that grounds. You know what they're doing at McLaren Couple of nuggets I had from the week Hadeadecki, unfortunately, the Hadecki putting much is back. His day on Saturday, he lost 6.87 four shots on the Greens on 17 of the 18. He gained strokes putting on one of 18 holes, which listen, I don't need to tell you guys, that's not good. JT was second worst in strokes game putting. That also not good. JT was second worst in strokes came putting that also not good as we go. Two weeks. How much time did, uh, did, did Jack spend in the booth? Honestly, don't know. I was on mute almost the end to honestly the only time I had the sound on was when the rom thing happened.
Starting point is 01:24:37 It was total luck, but I had my sound on US women's open the whole time. I love love it. An astute listener. Phil is in on that tough day for Harry Higgs today. What happened, man? Shot 84 today. That's all that. A 42, 42.
Starting point is 01:24:51 Just the sprinkled a couple of birdies in there too, but just a lot of, a lot of multi squares on the card. I just want to say 42, 42 is literally aspirational goal for me. That's like my goal every time I go out. It means you're not grinding too hard, but you're not getting your ass kicked. I hate 85 for whatever reason.
Starting point is 01:25:10 I hate the number 85. So it's always like, if I can get 84 better, that's a great day for me. Talking about the actual golf, Bryson, just a, kind of a non-er week for him, 71, 72, 73, 71, minus one for the week. T18, I mean. Yeah, same with speed.
Starting point is 01:25:28 I mean, speed was T18 as well. Bryson was not an auto T18 in a mediocre week before he had his distance. He was number one in strokes. He was number five in strokes getting off the tee and hit a ball OB this week. Like again, a lot of people are still online. He's like ripping it and every time you hit a crazy drive.
Starting point is 01:25:45 It's like, oh, we made four. It's like, yeah, you're not really seeing what he's able to do. And his ability to raise this floor here is commendable and noteworthy. So. I think it's pretty interesting. There's only, there's 25 guys under par this week
Starting point is 01:25:59 out of, you know, most of the field was over par. And then, yeah, just a couple of shout outs for Sahi Thigala should have been at Pepperdine still, right? Should be in college. Yeah. And they want they won the national championship this week, uh, made, made cut for him. Congrats to him. Tyler Strafachi also made the cut this week as well. So, uh, couple of, you know, newly minted pros coming out and playing well. T6 for our guy Max made a boatload of cash. This is a big big money event. $313,000 there. So didn't have his best Sunday, but you guys still top 10ing while not having his best Sunday. We like that. He's a ballstrike in Jesse. I think that's about the end of my golf.
Starting point is 01:26:41 He's a ball strike in Jesse. I think that's about the end of my golf. We of course have some for me that wanted to discuss and the other golf stuff before we wrap that. Steven Yeager lost in a playoff today. The Korn Fairy Tour. Unbelievable. I guess how much money he's made. I don't even think this counts. Is he going to, is he going to call for the FedEx Cup playoffs on the,
Starting point is 01:26:58 based on just some money made on the Korn Fairy Tour? It's crazy. He has made, I don't even know if this counts this week. He's made $601,000 on the corn ferritor. Like this, you know, super season or whatnot. But Mido Pereira, I believe that was his second win of the year. He's, how much was the money?
Starting point is 01:27:21 What was the money amount? 600K, I think. 600K, that would put him at $129 on the PGA tour money list for the year. Right behind Ricky. So, and then elsewhere, I saw Maverick Antcliff was playing well on the Euro tour. I didn't. Is it a much better stuff? I too much going on.
Starting point is 01:27:44 It was not on the European tour. So I think only through two rounds or something like that. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. There are around three starts tomorrow. So nice. Monday, Tuesday, golf. Maybe it's it might be a three round tournament. Where are they? The Porsche Porsche European Open Porsche European Open. That's exactly right. And then we've got Congerie this week, which yeah, we should get
Starting point is 01:28:03 this in now. We are not going to have a tournament recap next week We got an event out of Gearheart in Oregon that many of us are going to be at we're not be able to watch enough golf to opine on it Please Bryson and Brooks just put it all off for one week We'll have plenty of US open content rolling into that week Brooks is playing Bryson's not DJs in the field pretty weak field otherwise, otherwise. Otherwise we're gonna miss the majority of that event. It's a field plan. I don't think he is. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 01:28:28 It's just tough because it's an easy coach tournament. Yeah, the week before the US Open, a lot of guys qualifying in, which is interesting. A lot of the guys that are trying to qualify in Ohio and I'm not sure what other qualify, because they used to have the Memphis qualifier. I'm not sure what other qualifiers have kind of popped up this year.
Starting point is 01:28:49 Bears club this year. Oh, it's bear. Like a lot of those guys are probably in the field this week. But yeah, I don't know. And actually, you know what props to golf channel. I will say I'm excited for tomorrow. I always love watching. They're bringing now that they've got the US open back.
Starting point is 01:29:02 They're bringing back the golf's longest day. all the coverage of all the sexual qualifying tomorrow, which is always fun and interesting. And hopefully you like watching, you know, women's major this week. If you're, if you're new to that game, there's going to be another one coming up in a couple of weeks, KPMG, women's PGA will be there for the majority of that week. And there's, there's prime time LPGA on this week. That's right. From Lake Merced, They're on seven to 10
Starting point is 01:29:28 Six to nine on Thursday and Friday East Coast seven to 10 East Coast Saturday Sunday. So prime time finish that we didn't get this week You guys ready for forming the one Of course guys, I haven't seen it. I taped it. Oh my God. I'm gonna be of no help. I almost want to like hang up. So I don't. Well, as always, you know, if you're listening to this, we are done with the golf portion of this.
Starting point is 01:29:52 And if you don't want to hear the F1 part, you are welcome to flip over to a different podcast. But yeah, so do you want to sign off for any of them? We can talk about it. No, it's sincerely I did have not watched it. And I have it taped on my television. Okay. I will have nothing to add. And I kind of want to watch it and I have it taped on my television. Okay.
Starting point is 01:30:05 I will have nothing to add and I kind of want to watch it and not hear all the . Go watch it. Have you been on our formula one slack at all this week? No, I've been avoiding it intentionally. Okay. It's just so nice that there's a separate channel where I can keep that cordoned off. People are going to dog us. We're going to slack, but we're a real company now.
Starting point is 01:30:21 We are real company now. Exactly. Well, guys, this was this was such a treat. It was a nice talk. Thank you, Randy. Thank you very much. And thanks for all your coverage of the Women's Peak. Women's Open this week.
Starting point is 01:30:31 All right, see you guys. See you, bud. All right, so that's it. I didn't, I didn't, hope I didn't spoil it with what I have in the agenda here. You didn't watch it live this morning either. I didn't, I watched, I slept in and I woke up and I said, shit. It's like, where are they? Shit. It's Azerbaijan. I really wanted to watch that race, but I've
Starting point is 01:30:51 got them all set to auto record. And then Alex went and got her nails done. And I convinced Freddie to watch the race with me. It was a red car. Fantastic. Very good, though. He was a red car. Max Verstappen, huge lead going down, following a safety car still stretches out his lead. And this is after Lance Stroll just completely blows out of tire, just unprovoked on a straight. St. Again, I haven't followed this board very long. I haven't yet to see a leader just totally have a car blow up, like a tire blow up on
Starting point is 01:31:24 him to cost them a race. It was a tough day for a parallel. Well, no, no, no, I probably said it wasn't their fault. It was a puncture. It was after stroll after strolls tire explodes. They, one of the commentators tracks down the parallel spokesman and it's like, Hey, are you worried about these tires at all?
Starting point is 01:31:39 And the manufacturer of the tire that exploded said, No, we're not worried about it, which, yeah, I got I couldn't see that. It was what it was the same, same part of the tire that exploded said, no, we're not worried about it, which yeah, I gotcha, I couldn't see that. It was the same part of the track, too, right? Same ish part of the track, I think, and same tire, the rear left tire, just in a spot that, you know, it wasn't like it wasn't a well maintained tire.
Starting point is 01:31:56 They claimed there was a puncture of some kind that caused it to do that. There's no debris out there. Doesn't seem, that doesn't seem to add up. And it was just freaking, just a heartbreaker for anyone that roots for Max. Red flag the race with only three laps to go,
Starting point is 01:32:12 which is also pretty unpress. I've never seen that. And then I guess the formation lap for when they get ready after Red flag counts as a lap. So then they're starting from a dead start, two laps with Sergio Perez was on pole, right? He was in first, yeah, he was in first, Hamilton in second. Going into the restart.
Starting point is 01:32:31 Yeah. And it kinda looked like coming off the line and Hamilton was gonna take Perez, but it turns out, I don't know if you saw this, Hamilton accidentally flipped a switch, like a break switch. Oh, was that what happened? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:42 Like I saw his tweet afterwards and I just figured he just locked up at the wrong moment. No, he accidentally hit a magic break switch or something like that. It gives total his fight. He owned the mistake and just veered right off the track. No points. I've never seen him finish this either. Like, doesn't finish a race or he wins.
Starting point is 01:33:00 And as a pin finished in five. I know about that. Progress for my team. But I was just, that was a wild, wild race. Pierre Gasly got on the podium finished third in Sebastian Vettel finished second. It reminded me a little bit of Mons the last year of just like total mayhem. The Pazley was hit a good, good qualifying week.
Starting point is 01:33:19 He was only like two 1000 soft of Max, I think. My beautiful boy, Yuki. He was still bitchy on the radio this week, but finished seventh. The thing that stuck out to me was just in the after highlights. Boat us, just absolutely letting people pass him. Yeah. I mean, I think he lost five or six spots and like a lap and a half,
Starting point is 01:33:50 just very lack of a days ago driving, just totally mailing it in. And then the war of words between Horner and Toto is really ramping up as well. Good total criminal windbag who just likes to be on TV. Man, it's tough for both your drivers and not finishing the points after calling out the, the guy that won the race. Well, I mean, check, oh, check, oh, one.
Starting point is 01:34:15 That's what I'm saying. Oh, yeah, a toe toe corner. Yeah. That was a tough look because Red Bulls got Mercedes on the run. And net net, it probably was, you know, not a big effect on, you know, obviously Max and Hamilton got zero points today. So, or I guess Max got his fastest lap point, but it was big for the constructors. Big for that.
Starting point is 01:34:36 Red Bull now is 174 Mercedes 148. Like that, that honestly feels like it's going to be a very real race. But Perez, just getting involved at all, is such a boost for Verstappen and something that he has missed. Gosh, this is bordering on actual real F1 take. But it like Max has been racing on his own ever since we've been into this sport,
Starting point is 01:34:56 or since I've been into this sport and like watching how different it works out just having some protection. Like I'm really starting to understand that and it's significant. And it makes Botos look even worse. Yeah, oh, he's a total fluffer. So.
Starting point is 01:35:10 Are you gonna apologize for your album? Absolutely not. I was not an album guy. Why do you keep making it? You just like were so unfair on album and just fluffing Perez for a very average start and record. And you and others on Twitter have just sent me
Starting point is 01:35:24 the, you know, the eyes and then statistically, you gave, it just your prize and Albon were, you know, Albon was a danger to himself and others. Perez and Doug. And he was driving that, he was in their system for a few years prior, whereas. But he was not, Perez and not got promoted.
Starting point is 01:35:44 It was going from a vastly different car. Which was this the sixth race of the year? Cause I forget, I think it was. Before the season, Perez said, it's gonna take me five races to get used to the car. And in the sixth race, he wins. I mean, that tracks, they just need him to qualify better.
Starting point is 01:36:01 He's so good once you get on the track. Like he's a dog. Yeah, he goes from nine to fourth, like all the freaking time. And if he's going to qualify well, then yeah, like I said, Red Bulls. So third race win for Red Bull. Mercedes has three. But the first one not by not won by Hamilton or Verstappen. And I think Ferrari total disgrace by Ferrari this week. total disgrace by Ferrari this week. Not, you know, not getting a podium and just signs. I don't know. I think signs is, I'm gonna stick by it. I think signs is a fluffer. LeClaire just from being on pole to just being a total non-factor in those years. It's weird. It is. It is. Tough look for Ferrari.
Starting point is 01:36:39 That's a, I think that's a race I want to go to at some point. It always looks fun. Like it's, I thought, you know, a couple of years ago last time I saw it, it felt like kind of a novelty, street course, and they've got some weird angles around that castle and stuff. But like the more I watch it, the more I'm like, no, there's actual passing, and it's just a really wonky little track. There's chaos, there's always chaos on that track, more so than monocles. What do we got next? France? Yeah, that's in two weeks, is that right, or is it more on that track more so than than Monica. What do we got next?
Starting point is 01:37:11 France. Yeah, that's in two weeks. Is that right or is it more than that June 18 through 20th? That's in two weeks. That's the US Open Week. So We've got two in Austria back to back. So I and I saw Singapore got canceled. Yeah, unfortunately did but there's some races in reserve. think, to fill it in on the schedule. Hopefully that hopefully the outer ring at uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, I don't know if that's on the schedule, but that would be a great ad if not. So all right, let's wrap it at that uh, crazy week in golf and in Formula One. Uh, thanks, everyone for sticking with us. And yeah, gosh, like I said, we'll have, don't know what's going to be up coming up Tuesday, could be a variety of a couple things. And then we'll have a special topic-based episode next
Starting point is 01:37:55 Sunday, which I think you will both learn and enjoy next week. Start prepping for it today. Yeah, doing some homework for it. It's gonna be fun. So thanks everyone for tuning in. We'll see you next time. Cheers. Go Hawks. So thanks everyone for tuning in. We'll see you next time. Cheers. Go Hawks, go jazz, go sons. Good luck, club. Be the right club today. Yes.
Starting point is 01:38:14 Be the right club. That's better than most. How about in? That is better than most. Better than most. Better than most.

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