No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 451: 2009-2012 Majors Deep Dive with KVV

Episode Date: July 5, 2021

Soly and Kevin Van Valkenburg recap the majors from the 2009 Masters through the 2012 PGA Championship. From Rory's wins at Congressional and Kiawah to unlikely winners like Y.E. Yang, Charl Schwartzel and Lucas Glover, we'll look back at a most unique period in professional golf with some of the stories you might remember, and some you definitely won't. We also get into the Bryson - Tim Tucker news on the front end of the pod. Thanks to KVV for joining us for this one!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes. That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No-Lang-Up podcast, Sally here. We do not have a weekly recap this week. A multitude of reasons, if you will. Of course, with the Bryson, Tim Tucker news that came out earlier this week, we do address

that a bit. Kevin Van Volkberg is the guest on today's show. We get into why we chose the topic, which is we're going to cover major championships from 2009 to 2012. We do a full intro of the all the reasons reasoning behind that and knowing that this Bryson Tucker thing would be at the top of people's minds. We address that as well. It's a little tougher for me to weigh in on that because as the person who broke the broke the story I got to kind of stick to What I what I can report versus like all the things I've heard about it So gave you and I have a brief discussion on it

I think there's gonna be more to the story as it plays out and I'm sure will be will be discussing Bryson in many opportunities down the road so Before we get to the topic our friends at Calaway do have a quick topic for you as well. That is giveaways. I know how much you guys love free stuff. In case you somehow missed it, Phil Mickelson is playing in this Tuesday's match with Tom Brady's, his teammate.

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but we are golf nerds and had a great time digging back into a weird little anil of history that I promise you, you're gonna learn some things, I promise you don't have all this stuff memorized. Some is interesting, some might not be, but it was all interesting to us. So enjoy. Cheers. It's without fail. It's every time I have something scheduled. If you're listening to this podcast by now, I'm safely off on my honeymoon. So we are not doing a recap podcast this week. Every time I'm getting ready to do something, all I say is, gosh, I hope Brooks and Bryson don't

do something. And sure enough, Bryson has to go and do go and do something this week. We're recorded this on Thursday afternoon where the news just came out that Tim Tucker and Bryson and Shable will no longer be working together. And my guest with me today to do to cover a totally different topic is Kevin Van Volkentberg from ESPN KVV. How are you? Sully, I'm back. It's so great to be here. Great to have you. We are going to be doing a deep dive into the majors from 2009 to 2012, which is a weird time period to choose a weird topic We'll get into kind of why we chose that but You know, I know the listeners are are gonna leads hope for a little bit of reaction to the news I feel very close to this having been the one that broke the news and hesitant to almost say anything

because it, you know, reporting is supposed to be your thing. First of all, you're my, you're my reporting lawyer here. You got to keep, you got to keep me from saying anything stupid. Just roll me a say what you know. I'll, as the opinionated person here, I'll go ahead and speculate wildly. But yeah, you did a good job. Some other people sort of reported their own versions of it, but it seems to me like from what you heard that this was not exactly a mutual parting, that maybe one of the parties wanted to leave the others. And you could say, caddy relationships are always kind of a little bit tenuous, right? They're not, they're rarely,

like, filling bones being together for 20 years is certainly the exception. That's not normal, not normal at all. And so on one hand, like it's no big deal that a caddy and a player decided to go different ways, it's certainly strange that if Tim decided to leave Bryson, that you would leave like a player who was super highly ranked and like played all the time and made lots of money. But personally, like I could totally understand how getting the course at

seven in the morning and being there until 10 o'clock at night, where a guy is hitting balls in the pitch darkness and being like, no, no, I can still see the track man. So I'm good. We can go get another hour. We can give going by the light of my phone that that would be a little bit annoying, which as I understand it, that is like maybe reason number 168. why this happened. But no, it's a very normal thing for the morning of a tournament for player and caddy to mutually part. It's a very normal thing, at least according to the Bryson's camp. Yeah, definitely. Looking around for another caddy, there's a day morning hours of where your tea time,

that definitely suggests a mutual parting of ways. Sure. Yes. And a tournament you're defending and that you're the heavy favorite at. Yes, it's totally normal for your caddy to be no longer on the premises. So here's a totally random question. Do you have to have a caddy? Could Bryson just get a push start? You have to have a caddy. We did a player handbook deep dive the last time that we were away for a weekend and you learn you do have to have a caddy You cannot have a push cart the caddies have very specific rules. They have to follow you can't wear bright colors You can't you're not allowed in the locker room. Crocs are allowed though

Which is spelled out in the player handbook and that means there is a reason why that has to be spelled out in there But somebody had to ask a thing. we're allowed to wear crocs. Exactly. The competition committee looked at it and said, okay, fine. So I'm hesitant to say anymore because this is going to come out Sunday night. We're recording this Thursday. A lot more could happen between now and then related to the story and making this feel very dated.

And like I said, I think there's going to be more that comes out. It's normal that players in Caddy split, I agree with that. The way that this happened, I do not agree with and for it to happen for such a high profile player, high profile bag, high dollar bag is certainly unique. So we'd be remiss if we didn't mention that Brooks has already seized this opportunity to brief petty trolling which you know what I kind of love still. I didn't like the the Michelin stuff but this was exactly the kind of needleing that I'm. Yes, this is on the tasteful

side. This is fine. Like encouraging other people to heckle another player on site. Not that cool with that. Like pretty harmlessly needling somebody on social media for something like this, that weigh in on that. So that, a point for Brooks in this, when he lost about five points, when he did the, the Mick Ultra thing. But so, all right, why would you say

we are looking into, we've reached in a little research, the structure of this podcast, I dove deep into the year's 2009 and 2011, you dove deep into 2010 and 2012 looking at each of the majors. Why would you say we are doing a topic based podcast on this era? I think because we're a little bit part of new media, right? Like new golf media, I'm not so much me, but more certainly you and we're on a new media podcast. Well, look, think about like podcasts didn't really exist back then, the way that we consume

golf now and golf Twitter is sort of an active, insane, vibrant, terrible, lovable place. That just, all of that stuff didn't, it wasn't a round back when this stuff was happening. So you and I were kind of joking about how would certain like Twitter or golf podcasts react to stuff that happened back then if it happened now. And I think that made us kind of laugh a lot

to think about, you know, what the kind of jokes that we would make or the things that we remembered because certainly we're both golf sickos, but it's easy to forget all of the stuff that happened just 10 years ago. And so I think it'd be a fun trip down memory lane. Some of this stuff, certainly you'll remember,

if you're listening, but some of it is totally like lost history until someone says like, no way. Seriously, that guy was T2 after three rounds at the PGA championship. That is a big one. How about this guy was T3 at the 2011 PGA championship. Anders Hansen. Do you remember that name? No. He was not T3 after round one. He was T3 after round four. Anders Hansen finished third place at the 2011 PGA championship. Well, there's another Hansen, Peter Hansen, who was in first place at the 2010 Masters. So the 2012 Masters, you mean the 12 Masters. So like when he chanked on number 12, yes, we'll see you've already stolen one of my. You could remember what happened. But yeah, let's let's go through

this and and just and kick it off because I think I want to see and set a little bit in that it's not a lot of classics in this era. And I think that's kind of why it's a lot of forgettable majors, honestly. And it really kind of blows my mind and a theme at least in the years that I was diving into. It was when things got close. When it looked like a three, four, five man leaderboard, almost every single time, the guy that you would least expect to come out on top came out on top. Like, I'm going to spoil this for you.

Why you yang won the 2009 PGA championship and it is not the only time we're going to hear the name why you yang, which is another lesson I learned in this deep dive is why you yang was low key like kind of the man in majors for a little time period there in this weird time period. But it there's going to be a lot of at least on Mayan probably, probably unfair laughing at what people, which is obviously these players are incredibly talented, but also speaks to this era where Tiger kind of vacated things for a little while and left things open. And the people that Tiger was super influential on,

the influence that Tiger had on the game hadn't come into professional golf yet. There's on the back half of this Jason Day really emerges. We're going to get Justin Thomas. We're going to get Jordan Speeth. We're going to get Roy McAroy on the back half of these years. And that is in my mind the first crop of people that came up in an era where basically ever since they had decided they wanted to be pro golfers money was already big in this sport, right? Just there was so much more infrastructure in place to support professional golf careers It was that much more reason to pursue professional golf for good athletes

Like Dustin Johnson Brooks Capco who are still at Dustin's on the a little older end But those people hadn't fully Emerged on this scene yet. So you're gonna get some Scott Verplanks popping up in here You're gonna get you know people outside the top 100 in the world winning majors in this time period because it was just kind of there for the taking. And it, you know, it some of the names you go see in there, you have to do a double or triple take us like, whoo, like what? This guy was involved in the major championship scene. So I love going back and looking at old Wikipedia pages for old majors.

So this was a really fun task for me. I got way bogged down in 2009. 2009 US Open is mind blowing event that I still can't really imagine how it happened. But I don't know where you wanna start with this. I kinda wanted to go through and just set the scene a little bit with Tiger Woods was number one in the world from June 2005 to October 30, 2010.

Now, as a record, 281 straight weeks. After that, so again, we're in 2010. Here's what happens with the official World Golf rankings number one spot. Lee Westwood takes it in October of 2010, holds it for 17 weeks. Martin Kimer takes it, February 11, holds it for eight weeks. Westwood takes it back in April, holds it for five weeks. Luke Donald takes it May 29, 2011 holds it for 40 weeks. Rory takes it March 2012 two weeks. Donald takes it back for four weeks. Rory takes it for two. Donald takes it back for one. Rory takes it back for three. Donald takes it back for 11 weeks. weeks and finally, Rory keeps it for 32 weeks into March 2013 where Tiger takes it and keeps it for a year. So leaving the Tiger era of a record 281 straight weeks, we have this just trade-off game with all European players that took it over for basically this entire era. Why do I think I'm fascinated by, I want to know how much manipulation there was going on for Martin Kimer to get to be the number one player in the world before like it was before he won a major right or was when it was when he won

once he had won the major he got to number one in the world shortly after that or somewhere around there because it's not like Kimer was winning a lot on the PGA tour if I'm correct right I'd have to I'd have to look at how he how he kind of traced got it there so he was he was third in the world in 2010. So he won. He was 13th in the world when he won actually the PGH championship that brought him up to fifth. And so he had in that year he had won Abu Dhabi. He had T3 at a WGC, he got up to seventh, but yeah he was actually 2009. He really made a move from you know the top from around 23rd in the world up to the near the top 10

So I don't remember Kimer being a force before he won But I was also 22 years old around this time. So that's again kind of like a I I probably go in and appreciate any any players that have not held their success Late into the 20 teens and into the 2020s I've I've probably unfairly lost respect for. And that's part of this task was like going and be like, no, Steve Stricker was a killer in this time. Steve Stricker was tough, man. It's kind of sad to think of so I was struck never winning the major because like he was in a bunch of them. Like he was really pretty good for a

long stretch, was an amazing ballstrike. And I for the years that I was responsible for 09 and 11, I went in and just looked at the whole PGA tour season as a whole just to try to get a good picture of that on top of the major championship year. And man, it was like, you kind of wanted to pick out some names to kind of make fun of for winning tournaments and strikers name is in there a lot like he was, he was picking off a lot of tournaments in this time period. But winners in 2009, uh, uh, that year. Why are you young?

One, the Honda classic, I feel like we're going to hear that name as this podcast goes along, but don't remember that. I do not remember yet. No, I don't remember that either. That's awesome. Everyone thinks of why Yang is like, this one hit wonder, like this giant or like, no, why are you young? It's a baller. And Yang has some baller-ass quotes from the 2009 PGA, which we're going to get to as well. But what sticks out to me about 09 that is, all right. So obviously, we know what happens at the end of 09 with Tiger and with his his world. But it's easy to forget.

And you know, he doesn't win a major in 2009, but just how good he was post breaking his leg. I think a lot of people, you know, it's been many years now. It's easy to look back and blend, you know, the knee surgery, the first knee, the big knee surgery he has as being kind of what derailed him. But when he came back, he was a complete menace in 2009. One at Bay Hill, T6 of Augusta, fourth at Quail Hollow, eight of the players. Winds Memorial, T6 US Open, Winds AT&T. He missed the cut at the British Open, but wins the Buick, wins the WGC bridge zone,

second at the PGA, second at the Barclays, T11 at Deutsche Bank, wins BMW, second at the Torchie Championship. In a year that is a very forgettable year in Tigers career because he didn't win a major. It's always funny when like whenever Kyle will do like the rankings of like Tigers best years and like 2007 is like sneaky maybe you know as good as 2000. But like 2009 is like super underrated in terms of like his actual career totals and stuff. Just because it was a major didn't mean that he wasn't the flat like best stick in the world.

Mm-hmm. Any bait. Should have won at least one of the majors. But other winners in this 2009. Mm hmm. Any bait should have won at least one of the majors. But other winners in this 2009 year, Brian Gay, Brian Gay again, Sean O'Hare, Jerry Garene, two tournaments in 2009. Rory Sabatini, Bovham Pelt, Nathan Green won the Canadian Open that year, John Rollins, Heath Slokum won a playoff event, Troy Madison won his second PGA tour event in this year. And it's just worth, I don't know where to fit this in, but fashion at this time is an abomination.

There are just so many white belts. There are so many blue shoes matching blue shirts. And listen, I can confirm this had a major, major, major influence on me. And this is your blue period. I wore the white belt way past the time that it was acceptable to do because everyone on tour, like it was just like a standard. Everything wore a white belt with absolutely everything. The cat even wore them a few times on Sundays, which was just appalling.

But man, that white belt really came out in full force right around this time period. I want you to know that every now and then, just for fun, I've gone to like in the back of golf gals or something and tried on a white belt. It is not a look for a guy with like a 36-38 waist. It is just not a good look. What's up?

What's up? Somebody said the rule. If you're waist or your age is above, you know, a certain number, then you should not wear everywhere a white belt. It clearly applies to me. Now, I think Warrie sometimes will pull off a white belt. It clearly applies to me. Now, Shane Wawry sometimes will pull off a white belt. And like, if there's any golfer with a physique that is probably similar to mine, it's either like Shane Wawry or Jason Gore. So like, I feel like if, you know, if they can wear the

web out sometimes, no, it just doesn't work. So the OWGR at the opening of 2009 Tigers won Sergio 2 Phil 3, Patrick Harrington 4, VJ 5, Robert Carlson 6, Camilo Vijaga 7th, Hendrick Stenson 8, Ernie L's 9, Lee Westwood 10. That's a pretty, that's a, Robert Carlson's the only name on that really surprised me. Camilo a little bit, but that's a pretty stout top 10 to open this year. So the 2009 masters was held that year at Augustin National. Again, you go into 09 and you start looking around it, like who's going to win these things. And on how Cabrera wins the 2009 masters, not

to spoil that, but he, anyone the 2007 US open, but Kenny Perry in 2009 is again something like the heartbreak. I don't think I fully had the grasp for going into that Sunday. So it fill and tiger were paired together on that Sunday for the first time at Augusta. Phil goes out in 30. That's right. Kenny Perry had a two shot lead with two holes to play. One par wins him the masters hits a hits it over the 17th green hits honestly a horrific chip that almost runs off the front. It rose barely off the front of the green. He goes on bogie's that one hits it way left of the pin on 18 out of the bunker. Doesn't get it up and down pretty much leaves a putt to win the Masters short Chad Campbell had a putt on the 18th on the 72nd hall to win the masters in 2009.

Right. He also missed it. And I can't remember. It was a close ish, but yeah, and he was not in the final groups, but it turned out that putt was to win the masters. This is pretty any Perry when he, he wasn't wearing his glasses then, right? Clearly he needed to be wearing his glasses. I don't know. That's, I don't, he would correct.

He was not wearing the transition lenses at this point. We clearly, the sun was setting and Kenny Perry needed some transitions. Which like gosh, if he I watched most of that broadcast back preparing for that, it is like a coronation. You know, I mean, it's it they're following that story and he he had a good a really good back nine going. But on how Cabrera birdies 1315 and 16 to get into the playoff from the last group. He was plus two on the day at that point. Cabrera's got a putt on it, a par putt on 18, you know, to get into the playoff and nance, you know, sets Fowdo up says, what do you think about this one, Nick?

And I quote, I don't know Jim. That was Fowdo's analysis before Cabrera. What is my favorite? I'm so glad you mentioned that because I was going to bring it up to you. Because that is literally one of my favorite things that ever has happened in a Master's broadcast where Nance just absolutely served it up on a bladder for Valdo to be like, I break a little bit left,

we'll make sure, you can't leave it, she can't leave it short. And it's just like, no idea, Jim. Don't know. Don't know, Jim. But I would appreciate like an honest Fowl though. Like, you know, what a Fowl all the time was like, where, Jim, I just, I thought I was gonna get up

and roll some pots this morning and I just wasn't. I wasn't up for it, slept in. So it was a four footer on a course that Fowl though has won at three times, okay? Like, you didn't even have to tell us about the break. You could have been like, biggest part of his life right here All you got to do in this situation is close your eyes think of one you've made like give me something because I don't know

Do you okay? So my one of my main memories that sticks out about that broadcast is there's a shot briefly of Kenny Perry's kids like just there's a shot briefly of Kenny Perry's kids, like just sobbing, like, oh, one of the most heartbreaking things ever. Like, you know, this really, Kenny Perry was, I don't remember how old at this point, but like, it was clear that like, this was his last gasp, just a chance to win a major, like his kids are there, they're pulling form, whatever,

and like that line now in between, like, I don't know that they would show Kenny Perry's kids sobbing now. Like that, I think back 10 years ago, there was a little bit different sort of standards in in broadcasting of like, well, it's all part of the story. But now I think there would be a big backlash if you like shoved a camera range in Kenny Perry's kids face. And just they watched them sob.

And that Campbell's wife too. In the play. Once Campbell doesn't make it, it's just like a replays and slow motion of his wife's reaction and stuff. Oh, yeah. And Perry was 48, so you're right, this was the last cast chance to win one of these things.

They go into the playoff, and I did not remember this either. On Hill drives it wave right and directly behind a tree and has to, I mean, he's in a playoff with two other guys. He knows he's got to make a par no matter what. And that might not even be good enough. He tries to go right around the tree and hit this punch hook and hits a tree square.

I just nails a tree. They don't, I can't find the ball. It's pops out in the middle of the fairway. I get could have gone anywhere. And he gets up and hits it to six feet and saves par and makes it the second playoff. One thing I definitely remember about that is like the sort of growl that on hell

let out effort hit the tree. It was like a, oh. I mean, plus on hell. We'll never see him again at the masters. He was probably going to be a job. But that's what is just like again now doing this podcast now for what the current status of on hell Cabrera. I'm still waiting, you know, the chairman of Augusta National to just, you know, address this situation similar to how they address the Tiger Woods situation.

Oh, we'll get you that in my turn. Oh gosh, it's a very, it's a sad, sad story for on people that don't know. I mean, gosh, what's he, he's was arrested by Interpol on domestic. Well, I don't even remember exactly what it was. It sounds like a very bad thing. He's got going like allegations of domestic violence. Like I'm not quite a little like wide Interpol had to get involved. Like he was trying to travel international like running from the he was running. Yeah.

I felt like this probably should have been a bigger story in golf lesson. Master's champion and US Open champion. And he was open. Yeah. We talked about near so but like it's nuts. But Cabrera is what I would consider honestly to be the kept the he's the the Capco or Louis who stays in this era. Like he appears a lot. He was very much like a all right, the regular tournaments mean nothing to me, but I'm gonna show up for these majors and do some weird shit.

And he fucked around and won a couple of them. So was this still when he was smoking on the course? I feel like sure. Yeah, they were trying not to show it as little as possible. I know he was smoking all throughout 2007. It was, and they were just kind of like, cause a bunch of my friends were like, oh, I love this guy.

I just just rip and heaters right and left. And there was some like, he tried to quit smoking for a stretch and then he just realized how much it screwed up his game. So he was just like, look, I'll smoke anytime on the camera's not around. Just you, you helped me out here. So how did he win the play?

I, how did he win? I don't remember. I remember he got up and down for that par, but I don't remember. So Perry goes way left with his approach shot. He hits a drive that doesn't really take the slope. It's an awkward shot. It goes left with the approach. Chip's way past doesn't make the par putt and Carrera hits a shot that was barely gets on the left side of the green. It could have kicked down and gone left and he's able to easily to putt and and went to Perry's bogie. So Perry, yeah,

bogie's 17 and 18 in regulation, par is 18 in the playoff and then bogie's the third playoff hole to bogie three of his last four holes to not win the masters is. It's tough. It's not a fun rewatch. It's not and that's it's like you go and look at the view count on some of those ones that are just a little bit more heartbreaking. There's not a lot of people that have gone back and watched that one. And I don't know about you. I have special empathy for people that have played 72 holes in a major and nobody beat them in that major yet they never won a major. Like, Perry and Campbell both go in that in that bucket and they're not alone. It's just different to me. If you lose in a playoff in a major versus just getting a solo second, nobody beat you over 72 holes.

And a T2 just feels especially harsh for playing 72 holes in a gust and nobody beating you. If I'm bored one day, I may go and just look and see how many guys who are essentially like one par away from winning a major. It would be a fun list of like, what if to put together of like, well, if you had made this one putt on your last fall, I mean, like, think about just like more modern aware, like Justin Rose and, you know, Justin Rose probably never win the Masters, but like, he had a bunch of putts in that Sergio sort of throw down where he, if he makes one and Sergio Judson, he wins, it wins the Masters.

And then, you know, Justin Rose is elevated to a certainly a different level in some ways. It's got two majors. Marco Mierri talked about that on the pod too of his ball covering by 10 inches on 15 on his approach out in 15 on Sunday, like 10 inches shorter, like something you're really not actually not in control of. You can't pretend you're in control of where that ball lands

within 10 inches, but he wouldn't have been on the pod. That whole life would have been different if that ball didn't cover those 10 inches. It's mind numbing, man. It's numbing to just go back and look at all these. And I feel like what I'm about to, when we flip over to the 2009 US Open, I'm about to just start roasting people for making bogies, which is not fair at a US Open,

but you'd be surprised in the year that, white young beats Tiger, and then Tom Watson almost wins the open Championship which is coming up next The one I had the most fun and I had the most notes on is the 2009 US open at Beth page and it is Just it's amazing one. Maybe it helps because US open has awesome films on all the open on you know Showing all four rounds and everything, but holy shit, what a week this was coming in. It's the Phil story. Amy was diagnosed with breast cancer the month before this. And it's, you know, it's a Beth page that hosted the US Open in 2002.

And Phil had three runner ups in the US Open in New York alone to that point, which why can't I think of the third one? He had wing foot, he had Beth Page. Pretty cock. Shinnecock in 04. That's right. Yeah. The Ritifuguson made like in one puts on the final day. And there was a rock in the bunker and Phil, like he, he hit a shot and like

there's a golf adjuster. Maybe it was golf. We did a big story about it years ago. Like how the rocket like no one could see the rock, but he clipped the chip went way long and he had an impossible putt like above the hole and made double. And that's how essentially he was he was either tighter was leading by one at that moment with the team. So like yeah, I think he I think he made a double too when they lost the seventh green that when they couldn't stop a ball on that green

That's a that's a loud when we could revisit at some point, but so it it feels support is just astronomical Which is always kind of confused me a little bit. He's not from New York and Phil's like a natural pairing But he has no New York ties, but they just absolutely love him there Weather was a factor at the 2009 US Open Playlasted for three hours on Thursday, just a complete total down for more than half the field didn't even tee off. The cat, number one player in the world, opens with a 74. Ricky Barnes got out and ran 67 to open up. And a name emerges on day one ranked 880 second in the world, a major champion, former number one player in the world. Do you know who I'm talking about? He doesn't look great. His clothes kind of fit funny. He doesn't really look like a pro

golfer anymore. God, I don't. David DuVal. A qualifier. A qualifier for the 2009 US Open opens with a 67, 300. I remember thinking that DuVal wasn't even really playing competitive golf at this point. Like he was just playing in the British Open because he had tried to have the lifetime exemption

whatever and then he qualified and he was like, just hitting it. It was like a great US Open Ram as he just, not just hitting it. It was like a great, you were so great. And he was just, not just make a shit ton of parts, like I'm hitting everything straight. Like it was, that was wild. He played in no majors in 2007.

He only played in the open championship in 2008. And his last top 10 in a major was T10 in 2001. The same year he won the British Open. He never finished inside the top 10 in a major ever again. So are you, am I molder, obviously, the same year he won the British Open. He never finished, instead of the top 10, a major ever again. So are you, are you my older obviously, the new, but do you remember DeVolves Prime, like were you paying enough attention to it to really? Yeah, yeah, but no, I was still pretty young.

And I mean, in 2001, let's see, I was 15 years old. So when he kind of stopped playing, it was kind of, I remember it, because I was a very impressionable golfer in that age, but I think I more remember it just how, like wondering why it vanished and how it vanished more than anything. He was such a sick iron player. I mean, he was, he flushed everything. And just to watch him, you know, and he was kind of not afraid of Tiger, which everyone else was afraid of him. Didn't mean he always was like, you know, beat him, but he was just, he was an awesome player to watch.

I don't know what it exactly was that, you know, it's not like he drove it like super far or wasn't like he had a great short game, but man, he could step up and just flush irons. Mike, we're open with a 64 that day, opening round lead, made a double bogey in short 64 in a U. a US open. But of course is just sopping wet.

I mean, they had to squeegee the greens. They had a really wet, you know, June leading up to the US open and the weather was just did not cooperate for the entire weekend. First round leader board Mike Weir, Peter Hanson, David DuVall, Ricky Barnes, Todd Hamilton, and Rocco Media. It's open. I have some memory of Phil. Like this is represented a little bit of a change in Phil fashion era.

Like he was a little slimmer, like wearing like the green like tight shirts, I suppose to like the big baggy ass shirts. Is that, is that accurate? I watch a lot of Phil highlights over the last, I don't remember exactly what his wardrobe looked like around this time, but they follow, like the, the film follows his week a lot. And I was kind of like, ah, I don't remember Phil being like around this time, but they follow like the film follows his

week a lot. And I was kind of like, I don't remember Phil being part of this story. Turns out he was also part of this story in 2009. But the draw was really tough for the early late crowd because the second round didn't start until 5 p.m. on Friday. They finished the second round on Saturday afternoon. Duval goes psycho scorecard in round two, but is sticking around at T4. Shot even par 70, but was just all over the place. Bukus Glover enters the conversation with a 64. And I'm sure you know this. Azuma Yano is in a tie for fourth after two rounds.

Oh yeah, Azuma Yano, yeah. I couldn't even tell you where Azuma Yano, what country is from? He is from Japan. And that is the first time I've ever heard this name. Ricky Barnes leads after 36 holes with the United States open scoring record. Eight under par. That's right. Painter's cap Ricky Barnes. Oh, God.

I can't. Pat or whatever. And it just, it starts to look, look, look like a, a like answer to a question of like, Hey, you like scratch-ish golfer If you had a seven shot lead at the US open and we put through you out there in the most pressure Do you think you can hold it because that's what it starts to look like he's swinging it like on Well by the time we get to the final round Hold it off. Oh, it looks horrible. This balance looks horrible. We'll get there, but I hadn't thought about this in years,

so my dad disliked Ricky Barnes, eventually. And I was always, I didn't understand why. And I was like, what is the deal? Like, what is there hate about Ricky Barnes? And he was like, well, there was this golfer who was from Montana. And like, all of us were sort of rooting for him to like make the tour.

And like Ricky Barnes kept getting all these special exemptions And this guy and our guy didn't and I just came to resent him I just felt like you know our our guy was much better is like, you know Never produced a pro golfer ever in history of state of Montana And so that was my dad's irrational Sort of methodology for loathing rich Ricky Barnes. So I remember him kind of rooting against Ricky Barnes as he was falling apart, which I found to be really cruel. He had a great Monday when this day ends up finishing because he does fall apart spectacular fashion. Saturday at dumps rain again, Holtz play before 7 p.m. So the third round resumes on Sunday at noon, third round picking up Sunday

at noon, completed in the late afternoon. And then at the end of round three, it's Barnes still at eight under Lucas Glovers still at seven under. They are David Duval and Ross Fisher are T three at three under heading into this final day. So they barely start round four on Sunday. Ricky Barnes gets out and makes an eagle gets to 11 under par. Can you off the top of your head? Can you tell me, can you guess what the winning score is?

Uh, I, I feel like it's five under maybe something like that. Is that right? Or under par wins. Four in a par. Okay. That yeah, just an absolute doesn't, I mean, Ricky makes like a an eight or something early, something ridiculous where he's just like scuffling around in the, the Fescue, uh, even worse for the, uh, the round four.

I'm losing track of the day. So we're still in round three when he gets it to 11 under. But Ricky shoots a 77 in the final round without making worse than Bogey. She's a 76 without making worse than Bogey. It's just 76 without making worse than Bogey. Wow. That is wild. That is a slow drip of death right there. So when Ricky makes eagle on the front nine of this round three,

Glover makes a birdie at the same time, gets it to eight under. And Johnny Miller calls Ricky Barnes as performance a clinic. It's just like the highlight tape of like everything going right. Ricky finishes round three at eight under. Glover at seven under. Phil is sitting there at T five at two under. They go out, start round four late Sunday night. Barnes makes another bogey. Hooks a three wood on the second hole and they suspend play when he's in the heather. So he's got to wait over to. He wakes up and he starts Monday and hits an insane shot out of the Heather onto the green and like save part out of it. And then he proceeds to hit into the Heather on almost literally every hole after that.

And on several cases doesn't get it out of the Heather on the first shot. I mean, there's a highlight tape of just every time they cut to him. He's hitting hybrid off the team. Boom. Straight into the Heather hits another, it's a driver off the Heather on the first shot. I mean, there was a highlight tape of just every time they cut to him, he's hitting hybrid off the seat. Boom, straight into the Heather. It's another, it's a drive off the seat, into the right Heather. It is just, it's like, it's like the before part of an informational of like,

what could possibly go wrong? It looks like he's trying to hit it into the Heather on repeat. Okay, I have a quick question. If you hit it in the Heather and play it suspended, do you get to pick the ball up and mark it and then take it like you because like I'm very curious about like then you have to recreate the lie like in the Heather the next morning. You are supposed to recreate the

lie. Yes. So I don't I don't maybe it could have worked as advantage some I've really don't think they mode the Heather overnight with as much rate as they've gotten. So yeah, I don't think they mowed the Heather overnight with as much rate as they've gotten so. Yeah, I don't know. At one point, you know, the Glover or sorry, Barnes is up by six shots in this final round. Five bogies in a 12 hole stretch over again, I'm confused on what state it is, but he's up by six shots at one point. I think that's round three. Duval opens round four, plugs a ball into the lip on the second hole after bogeying. The first one, let's start on the third hole. He plugs one in the lip and makes triple bogey. So he started the day at 300. Now he's one over leaving the third green. And he's

going to re-enter the conversation. This would prove very significant. This three shot triple bogey on the third hole. Duval hits one of the worst shots I've ever seen from a pro on seven. It's a mud ball. And again, this is like when it first starts to dawn on me, one of the most doubt biggest downpours that I've ever seen in a golf tournament. Of course, they never played lift cleaning place in the start. Just not going up and deal with it. It is rain suits the entire time. And there's no live clean of place.

He hits this duck hook that like is semi duck hook but like the mud ball makes it look just again, comically goes far left. Makes it bogey. Turns around birdies eight. Crowd is going absolutely ape shit and do vol. Again, looks like, and I don't mean to me mean on this, like his clothes don't really fit.

And like he is put on a lot of weight. He doesn't even look really like a pro golfer anymore with way his, his stance looks. It looks just supremely awkward. And it's really confusing as to how it happens. But he hits iron shaft or iron shaft. You talk about how good he was with his irons. He just keeps flagging it, keeps flagging it. Did he have any like sponsorship clothing deals?

Like it was Nike logos on his, it was Nike still. He was still Nike Wow Nike's bottom on arrow I love it. He turns around and birdies eight to get back to even and the leaders just like keep faltering so Glover goes out in three over and Ricky goes out in five over in the final group of the 2009 US Open. Phil rolls in a bomb. He filled birdies nine to get to minus one only four back. Then wrote goes up rolls a bomb in on filled birdies nine to get to minus one, only four back. Then roll goes up rolls a bomb in on 11 is only two back. Barnes, Bogie's 12 to go all the way back to one under par starting the day at eight under. He's one under through 12 without anything

worse than a bogey. Phil has 229 to the 13th. Stiff. It makes eagle. He's tied for the lead. Phil's tied for the lead at four under. So I'm pausing here for a sec. Did in your research, did you find the deadspin piece about Mike Lupica in regulation to this moment? I do not think I did not what happened. So I can't remember the author, but they were there. The OS open and wrote a piece about how Mike Lubica. Now, this is definitely in the era when sports writers were not supposed to be fans, we're not supposed to sort of like express, you know, favoritism, whatever. Mike Lubica, New York, sort of sports writer of many, many years of great importance,

also according to Mike Lubica. He is like screaming in the crowd, like whipping them into a frenzy, like, you know, pumping up, like running up and feel, like, come on, Phil! Oh, my God. It's not a lot of, like, favorite anecdotes of this entire era of golf, of like Mike Lubica,

like completely feeling so invested in Phil Michelson that after he makes eagle he's just going freaking bonkers. That sounds a little bit like me at the 2016 Ryder Cup with you when Reed made that putt on the 8th grade. I just started shaking your shoulders and it was so loud in there that it didn't matter and it was the first time I did it all week, but I was just like, ah! Ah! Exactly.

Yeah. I was like, my glubica lived so that you could have, you could fly one day. So Phil is tied for the lead. The New York crowd is going absolutely apeshit. He turns around three puts the 15th. Mrs. a putt inside four feet. Doesn't even touch the hole.

And gosh, does Phil miss a lot of putts in this era of this length. It just seems like every time it's, he gets close. He just misses one of these putts. Duval steps up, birdies, the 14th hole. Duval steps up, birdies, the 15th hole. Duval steps up, birdies, 16 to get back to three under. He was plus one after he tripled the third hole, birdied for birdied eight, birdied 14, 15 and 16. He gets within two of the lead. Glover goes out and bogies

15 is fourth bogie of the day and Duval flips over and Bogie's 17 unfortunately, so he got to minus three falls back to minus two Glover makes a stiff birdie on 16 moves to four under You know Phil gets up over to the 17th hole now has like a seven footer for par doesn't even come close Duval lipped out his four footer for par on 17. Glovers got a two shot lead and just coasts it in. But again, if we get to this point where we look at all these names, type the lead, all these possibilities,

Phil making around Ross Fisher makes an eagle on 13 to get the three under, you're like, Lucas Glover can like win the US Open, Kenny. And it turns out in fact, Lucas Glover can win the 2009 US Open. He was ranked, what was he ranked in the world? He was 60, 71st in the world after Ann Haukebara was 69th in the world to win the first major of the year. I definitely remember one other thing I remember is just a lot of like this

was definitely the era of like the let's go. Michelson, you know, Dardaric, Geter, and he had like fans all clapping like that that that cheer cheer was huge and they were giving that to feel like throughout the whole time. But gosh, I just feel like people don't talk about that DuVolve run, man. I mean, this guy was out of golf for those bloody experience. Like that was nuts.

Almost winning the US Open. I mean, shit, it's the 09. Again, it's so hard to keep track like what's going. This is all happening on Monday night and the crowds are enormous. Like this thing, I don't know know how many this how this many people were able to get Monday off that on that short notice or how they even did tickets or any of that but Nobody missed the Monday finish of that event, but a quick break here to check them with our friends at draft Kings McGregor versus poie 3 is all set UFC 264 and draft King sports with the official sports betting partner of UFC has a knockout offer for this weekend's fight. They're offering 264 to one odds on a knockout in the first round during Saturday's main event.

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only new customers, only restrictions apply to DraftKings.com, such sportsbook for details for details gambling problem called 1-800-Gambleer or an Indiana 1-809 with it. Let's get back to KVV. 2009 open championship, I started out with saying, like, you know what, that probably needs its own podcast at some point, but I don't know if it does. I think we all really, really vividly remember

what happened and it's not, there wasn't a ton I uncovered that was like, oh, this is totally forgotten and lost a history. Miguel on Hellemenez opened the 64 Ben Curtis, Kenichi Kaboya, and Tom Watson shoots 65 on day one. Sink, Matthew Goggan, John Sennon, Steve Sturker and Camilo all had 66. Steve Marino got involved. There was him and Watson on top after two days at five under Calc was right there at four under age 49 kind of overshadowed there with what Watson did. Yeah And then sink is sitting right there at four under Watson solo lead On top of at four under heading into Sunday Ross Fisher Matthew Goggan at three under sink at minus one

I don't know what ever happened to Matthew Goggan by the way, but Final round Sunday somebody opens up a three shot lead. Can you guess who that is? No idea. Ross Fisher. I was just going to get a three shot lead at one point, which I did not remember that happening. Chris Wood out of nowhere catches a flyer. Catches a flyer on the 18th pole made bogey ends up being a shot out of the playoff. Wow. Like Chris Wood was barely had turned professional, I think at that point. And you know, he'd later be on like the 2016 European Ryder Cup team. But I remember nothing about Chris Wood in this time period shot a 67 with the bogey on the last all which ended up keeping him one shot out of the playoff. One thing I would be curious about,

re-in-the-rewatch of this, is like, how did Watson, like, sort of think his way around? Was he hitting driver when other guys were hitting Irons? Was it, was Link ever an issue? Like, was it just he knew how to sort of play Link'sy stuff and they didn't? I mean, I would be curious, because I remember watching it at the end of it, certainly, but't. I mean, I would be curious, because I remember watching it

at the end of it certainly, but I don't know that I could tell you, like, oh, this was like, I remember he potted his ass off for a couple, like a big stretch, but how, like, he was standing on the last tee with a one shot lead. I have no real, like, recollection of how it happened. It was firm. It was really firm out there, and he no real like recollection of how it happened. It was firm. It was really firm out there. And he did hit a decent amount of drivers, but like coming down the stretch,

he didn't need a lot of drivers even. I mean, where those holes kind of dog leg a little bit, it was you almost, and how much the ball is gonna run, you almost couldn't hit driver on some of the holes. So, it distance was not a factor. He could easily, he reached the par 5, 17th, pretty easily made birdie. You know, take that one shot lead.

He actually hit it over the green, over 17 and two. It was just a master class and just like, hitting your ball in the right spot. He made a ton of cuts the first three days and he really did. And it just, I mean, we know what happens there on 18. I mean, the putter was bulky, honestly, on the whole day, on Sunday.

And on 18, he hits a great hybrid off the tee and just hit the wrong club in. He had eight iron and it should have been nine, hit the down slope, whatever happened. Invery watching it, it is a harder shot than it looks. Stuart Sink honestly hit a tremendous shot in on his 72nd hole. Lans in the very front, it rolls up, takes a big right.

So I remember him making a 40 foot front, it rolls up, takes a big right to, I remember him making a 40 footer, it was only like 15 feet. He had a very, very good shot at a 18. And yeah, when Watson hit it long, really, it's not even the par putt, the putt he hit from the rough from the French was just gassed. It was not even close. And his par putt also didn't really sniff the whole. I remember thinking, I guess I remember talking to Joe Pasnanski who wrote a book about Watson and Nicholas who sort of said, if you could go back and do it again, it's not the eight, nine or

or twice probably because maybe you just hit a spot that was super firm and it bound it through. It's that you got one of the greatest chippers in the history of like golf and you're putting it from the fringe there like maybe if you could, if you could do it again, you'd just say like, all right, I'm just going to hit a great chip and chip it to a foot and tap it in, you know, yeah. It's, yeah, it's, the, the playoff was not really very close. You know, sink kind of got out and run.

Watson has trouble on the 17 next double. So sink is up winning the playoff by six shots. The four hole aggregate and he stuffs it on 18. And I actually talked about this with Stuart on the podcast this week. I always found it interesting. Myself included in this. Like we hated Stuart's sink for it. Right. This more, it was more of what what like student come up and steal it from him. Like what's in fell back? What's in Bogud 18 and then shot several over in the playoff? It wasn't like, it wasn't sinks doing for the most part. He played a great 72 whole tournament, of course, but I don't know.

I always found that funny that people blamed him so hard. I remember my friend Barry, a really good Washington Post, has written a lot of go for them. He was there and he texted him and I was like, how's it going? And I remember him talking about, yeah, like Watson's got tears in his eyes. Like he is fighting back, you know, some stuff like right now. And so, like, that was kind of sad to see. I have a very specific memory of after he hit his drive in the fairway, I was like, holy shit, like it's kind of like my dad is almost about

to win the British Open. Like this is it nuts. This just doesn't compute. That like, yeah, 50 is one thing, but 59 is a call different world, you know? Well, the broadcast is talking about, and I'm watching the European broadcast Peter Alice on the call and they're so calm and casual about it. One of them, one of the broadcasts at one point says, like, yeah, this would be the greatest supporting achievement ever. And it's like without the excitement

of like, gosh, oh, I love European broadcast, but without the excitement of like, gosh, I love European broadcast, but I was kind of like, man, I feel like the American broadcast would really be driving home how insane this story is right now. And he says this, he's like, whole location is the same whole location when he won here in 1977. It was like 1977, 42 years before that,

like what? Well, that's what they think about like I would golf Twitter react to Tom Watson, like being in the middle of 18 fairway with a shot, you know, in 18th green to win the British show. Like I don't think anybody could breathe. Like the amount of tweets that we flying through your timeline are it would be overwhelming.

I remember watching it. We were in Hilton head and I, you know in Hilton Head, and we stayed way late, and we were supposed to join the family at the beach that day, and we couldn't leave, and it was just like heart, it was so freaking heartbreaking. It just took the air out of yourself, and almost the whole rest of the trip,

it was like, how can we have fun on this trip? It was one of the great sports stories of all time, and it barely didn't happen. It's, uh, gosh, yeah, that would, that would be up there for Twitter moments. I would love to see, or moments I'd love to see, you know, Twitter unfold. I mean, Tiger at 08, I mean, it just made it, it would have been, you know, a crazy fun Tiger thing. But like, we saw what 2019 with Tiger, like, it almost is too, you can't even like grasp it happening. Whereas this would have been, I don't know, man, it was, it was one of the wildest sports stories ever. I mean, just, oh, God. All right, we're up top taking

weight. I'm on my, what did PJ on that? What was the VJ this year? EGA, 2009 Hazeltein. Tiger opens with a Klinnec wall, 67, five birdies, no bogies, one of his best balls tracking rounds in a major ever. Round two, he shoots 70, opens up a four shot lead through 36 holes, his largest margin after two rounds in a major since the 05 British at St Andrews where he led by five. Round three, he shoots a 71, the lead is cut from four to two. Padrik and Y.E. Yang on his heels. Shout to Lucas Glover sitting T4. I wanted to, you know, we're kind of made fun of when the US Open he. What is that? What a freaking era for like this? This was like when you couldn't just be like a great driver of the golf ball, right? Like you had to strike your irons and that was where that's honestly when we talk about like distance and stuff. I think this is what we talk about like guys, the fact that like David Devall and Lucas Glover could be in contention

in in this era was so like and y-ing too is not like y-ing popping off the tee, right? You were great iron player, you were in contention to majors. Yep, and you you were able to compete in this era and that I struggle to to think that a lot of these names would be able to do that in the current era, right? It just seems like it gets thin from like four crazy names so like maybe one a year gets involved in some way. So it's Tiger and Stevie, final round, paired with Y-E Yang.

They don't say one word to Yang or his caddy for four holes. They get to the 16 and an official comes up and says to Yang that they need to speed up. And Yang says, not me, him to the official. And they show a bunch and there's a bunch of clips of like, you know, Tiger, they've PJ of America, PJ, whatever your YouTube channel is great interview with Yang's caddy. And it's a bunch of like the indecision that Tiger had on that day. Like the wind was swirling and he kept backing off shots and throwing grass up in the air way more than you'd think.

But yeah, Y.E. Yang playing with Tiger fucking woods, birdies the third, Tiger bogies the fourth and they're tied. So he's raised the two shot deficit. Tiger birdies 11 to take a one shot lead, but gives it right back. And then on 14 Y.E. Yang, I don't remember this shot. He chips in for Eagle on the drivable par four, the 14th. It takes a one shot lead. Tiger birdie dip and he has a one shot lead.

And they get to 15. They're Tigers, it's a par five. Tigers on a down slope. And he chunks a five wood off the down slope. And the caddy tells the story. He says, Y.E. looked over it and hit him. The caddy and says, Tiger nervous.

looked over it and hit him the caddy and says, Tiger nervous. Why Yang and care? He was a weightlifter man. He, Tiger one, I'm going to intimidate him. It was, it was just awesome. Like, you know, the boldness of Y E. And so they get, you know, they both bogie 17, Yang's does a one shot lead. And Yang drives it in the left first cut on this par four, the 18th at Hazel team. Tiger hits a really good drive, but still has a one shot lead and Yang drives it in the left first cut on this par four the 18th at Hazel team Tiger hits a really good Drive but still has five iron and this whole is long 197 in from the right side of the fairway and Yang is kind of go back and forth back and forth the wind is howling and He ultimately chooses there to have this conversation. There are five head covers and white e Yang's bag first of all, okay

I had to double do a double take to make sure I had the count right, but there's five of them. They're deciding between three and four hybrid. Yang says to the caddy, let's go with three. And he just fucking flags it to a back left pin over a tree with wind coming off the left. The difficulty of this shot is hard to fully grasp. Like it wouldn't make sense with a one shot lead to go at that pin. Fairety blows the call while it's in the air, says it's over hooked, and it lands like a foot away from the hole,

rolls out to eight feet. And crowds go, there's like stun but going nuts. And then Tiger hits like a really aggressive shot at the back left of the pin, but it settles like just eight, you know, six, like maybe three inches into deep rough but pretty close to the hole. And at this point, I remember watching this. I was in a hotel room in East Lansing. It's

weird how I remember the locations of watching all these majors in 09. But at this point, we don't know that Tiger isn't invincible, right? I mean, we think back to the O8 US Open, like he was dead so many times. And I just remember, like, he has this chip, like, it's going in. Like, he was dead so many times. And I just remember like, he has this chip, like it's going in. Like, he's never lost one of these when he's been leading before, like everything, it's gonna work out some way. Like, they're with us. And I remember reading about this

and I couldn't find this, but I remember reading, maybe it was even on Twitter back then. I was on Twitter, but not tweeting at this point. I feel like this is one of my first Twitter majors that I remember. Somebody had said, like a live Vegas odds at one point while they were tied on the back nine. The live odds had them had white e-yang at 10 to 1 to win it. The bookmaker was interviewed the next day or afterwards and said he said,

I didn't regret it at all. Honestly, that reflected like the likelihood of Yang winning was one intent when they were tied on the back nine, which is just like something that's super hard to wrap your head around. But, well, how many, I mean, like other than the true, like sharks, like there's been a lot of like dumb money on tiger. Yes.

There's like people are like, oh, there's no way I'm gonna bet way, you ain't gonna bet a bit bigger whether it, you know, so, that's why the book he would set that line. He'd be, yeah, they probably still didn't lose a lot of money on him at 10 to one. But, and I remember being on Twitter and I thought it was Bill Simmons and I tried to find this tweet,

but I couldn't find it. But it that somebody called this. I vividly remember it was like, we're about two minutes away from Nance giving us a Y E S. And then Nance did it. Did it. Somebody had called it. I remember somebody calling it is like, oh my God. How did I just I will. I really wanted it to find that it was not Simmons or if he did, he deleted it for some reason. It's not there. But somebody predicted the YES call. Nance for sure did it. But

Y Yang pick up golf till he was 19 years old. He was the first Asian player to win a major. He'd already done his military service at that point, Tiger shot 75 with 33 putts. And this is a point I really want to emphasize because this is stuck out here, it's stuck out the US open one, and it's going to come back to bite in 2011 as well. Don't ever say that Tiger made every putt that matter. He's the goat, but he missed a lot of other opportunities. Like nobody converted them better than he did in this time period, but he still missed a lot of opportunities, missed some keyputs. And I just, I'm still left wondering,

I don't know the answer to this. I'm wondering if you can shine it. Like why was Y.E. Yang able to stare down Tiger and fill Ernie, V.J., Westwood, love? None of those guys in this era could stare him down. I don't know, maybe just because he had nothing to really lose. Like no one, like, those guys in this era could stare him down. I don't know, maybe just because he had nothing to really lose. No one, like, those guys were sort of invested in,

Tiger Head sort of lapped them all, right? Made them look, you know, like they weren't trying very hard or they weren't working hard enough to be great. And then, like this dude came out of nowhere and was like, yeah, no one, I don't really care. Like if I win or lose this, like I'm just gonna go ahead and flush some hybrids.

This was kind of really the beginning of the hybrid era too, right? Like this is, it was kind of not cool to have a hybrid. A tiger nervous. A tiger nervous. I've never heard that. He lifted his golf bag up over. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

The press, love it. Military press and beat Tiger by three. I mean, it came down to the last hole, but I mean, it's just freaking absolutely stunning. Watch all Tigers interviews afterwards. He was, you know, pretty, I mean, he was handled it pretty well, just like things didn't go my way today, didn't put, didn't make any puts. And yeah, I'd love to see the strokes game number because we have 33 pots, but it was not a pretty scene. So, in a very Shakespearean way, Tiger Woods' life is about to come unraveled. The signs were there, and I don't think we'll spend any time on the scandal stuff,

because we've talked about that sort of at length. But as we transition into 2010, which is my sort of era, we come to the masters and Tiger has, if you recall, he hasn't been playing golf for quite a long time. Like he's played in the Australian masters, which is allegedly where Rachel, you could tell, according to the HBO documentary, went down and flew with him and that's where the national inquirer got footage of them

that they essentially used to nail him. So he wanted allegedly, Rachel to come to that, the Australian masters. So the last time he's played since the scandal sort of unfolds is then, and there's all this talk about, you know, when this tiger gonna return to golf, like Will, you know, he said,

I'm gonna take some time away to kind of mend my family and he and Eelin are trying to work things out for quite a long time, whatever. And word kind of leaks that she wants him to miss the masters. Like she wants him to prove that he's serious about like mending their family and their stuff. And he is like, yeah, I'm not missing the fucking masters. I'm playing in the masters.

I don't remember that. That's interesting. This is one sort of thing that I feel like has a little bit lost to history and the scandal stuff, but it is absolutely true, is that it comes out that he has been having like a fling with like the 19 year old daughter of like some of their neighbors. So like it's a woman who's lived next to,

but since she was like 10, 11, 12, or whatever, and as she gets comes of age, like Tiger has an affair with her, and this is kind of what ends their marriage. The two things, he's gonna go play in the master's, he doesn't care, and she finds out that he's been messing around with the kid next door. And so that's it, like it's their marriage is over.

But he's gone. He had eventually come clean about like all of the mistresses right to her and you know hadn't mentioned that one and I brought this up and this was sort of like much more I think speculation on my part but a little bit more personal of like really like the you know the 19 year old girl next door that we've lived next to forever so anyway we get to the 2010 masters and we start off with the famous Billy Payne speech Oh my god Which you may not remember in full but watching it again is it is what is clear is that Billy Payne has sat and

Agonized over this speech and crafted it as though he feels that this is like the golf world is waiting for him. Like we need, we need Billy Payne's take on the situation. Billy, Mr. Payne, please share with us. This is like William Faulkner is going to sit down and panellist lecture. And so I would like to read it in my best Billy Payne voice here. With great fortune comes great responsibility, not invisibility. It is not simply the degree of his contact that is so egregious. It is the fact that he disappointed all of us. And more importantly, our kids and our grandkids. He did not live up to the expectations of the role model we saw for our children. And here's my very part. Is there a way forward?

I hope yes, I think yes. But certainly, his future will never again be measured only by his performance against par, but measured on the sincerity of his efforts to change. I hope he realizes that every kid he passes on the course wants his swing, but will settle for his smile. This year, it will not just be for him, but for all of us who believe in second chances. And I'm just, I am assuming that before this speech,

Billy Payne commissioned an audit of the extra marital affairs of all of the white golfers that came before this speech, Billy Payne commissioned an audit of the extramarital affairs of all of the white golfers that came before this scenario. It wasn't until the tiger doc that I really like, got like really flashes, maybe it should have hit me longer of like the, the maybe not even subtle racism related to this of like, wait a second here, why are, why are his extramarital affairs

the business of Augusta National? Well, and the moralizing of it is just so like coming from Augusta National is pretty distasteful. And I think that this plays, history did not look upon this speech kindly, but I want you to know that at the time, the golf channel broadcast this, it cut to Rich Learner and he said, an unquestionably powerfully delivered brilliantly written and crafted speech. Whoa. Sorry Rich, but you did say that. So maybe, and I probably haven't fully fleshed that thought out as much. I think it kind of was, was it Brian Gumball that was on the, the Tiger documentary that

was just kind of pointed that out and it was very much like like really like you Augusta with with your racial history like this is this how you're gonna treat Tiger Woods like this is what you're gonna do You know the guy that won it four times like he hasn't been through enough like we needed to just like publicly Admonish him and definitely I don't know it'd be a kick to him You know he's coming back to the tournament like he everyone is a kind of you know He was he was worried about how the weather reception was gonna be like at that. And it was kind of like really positive.

Like people were, they were happy to see him back. And yet then on the Wednesday of the masters, like Tiger came on Tuesday, I think he did his presser. And I was like, guys, I've obviously screwed up. I've got a lot so that I need to change whatever. You think that that would have been enough of a kind of man called, but no, the chairman had to sort of punch down on Tigers way through the door and make sure

that he knew his place. Cut shot to Arnie's doing the monkey meme over in the corner there, I think. All right, so being his masters, Tom Watson, not dead after, you know, shoots a CIF-67 in the first round. I mean, a lot of names here, as you've mentioned here, that you wouldn't expect, like, Y-E-Y back in the top 10 is K-J Choi. A master's a baller for a couple years. Fred Couples, ballin' out again, also a shot off the lead in the first round. Ricky Barnes, not that after you as open either. He... was shot off the first round ricky barns not it was open either he's a shot off the leaf

and and that he came and that he can an unbelievable uh... believe first-round succeed state to start off so like pretty pretty good showing pretty good uh... tiger what is i would actually saw what is the one thing special about Tiger in this master's that he has never done in any other master's?

Broken 70 in an opening round. Right. Shot 68 in the first round. The only time in every single master's the Tiger's play that he broke 70 in the opening round. Also, as you mentioned, Steve Marino makes another appear. Steve Marino of the famous other person in the Ernie Elz. Sorry, that was called on the pod years ago.

This ends up being the best finish of Steve's career, major in a major. If anyone out there is listening to this, and if you've never read the Eli Sazlow story in Washington Post about Steve Reno playing East Potomac golf course, I would encourage you to Google it and do it. It's based on the premise of What would a tour pro shoot at my shitty local dog track and Eli? Good friend of mine talked marino into doing it and I won't ruin it for what it sort of reveals

But it's it's not quite what you think like a tour pro doesn't go out and shoot 57 that your local dog track from with even with 300 yard parfours, so there are some interesting reveals and all that. This, of course, was the year that Phil hit it off the pine straw between the two trees on 13. And I want you to take another moment and think about what golf would or would do if that happened. Just an absolute feeding frenzy of memes and content and fun. I feel a little bit Sad. I don't I don't know when we could sort of really trace back to What golf Twitter? It's real true birth was I kind of feel like it's like 14-15

So we're still like a year out from that But Phil then in in later years in the infamous leather jacket interview with Ferri in later years in the infamous leather jacket interview with Fertie, so that he could not lay up in that moment with Pitching Wedge because the pine needles might get on the face of the club. And so it was mathematically beneficial to him to hit Six Iron Instead, and he did admit that he pulled the shot just slightly. But of course, it doesn't make the putt not a big deal. I actually, this is a rumor that I heard,

that I cannot say for sure is true, but I heard this from somewhere, and I didn't go back and get to go back and watch the whole term, it's here. There's a rumor that I'm one of the days, and I think it's maybe like Thursday, that Jim Nance refused to say Tiger's name, that he kind of wanted to sort of like see

if that would be Tiger's punishment to the whole thing of like see if like that would be like Tiger's punishment to the whole thing of like, Nance would acknowledge him. So he would like Tiger would walk out and be like, and there he is, the great one about. And so like the whole day, like he just sort of like used these various like little euphemisms for Tiger. I would, so I would love to go back and sort of see if that is actually true or if that is just something that someone totally bullshit me. Because it kind of sounds a little bit like a dance story. So this is also just in Tiger stuff. He plays like okay. He's sort of in it, but not really like he is actually in third place after the third round, but he just he never really kind of gets it going. Lee Westwood is leading.

Everyone thinks like, finally, this is gonna be, it's Lee Westwood and Phil Mickelson there. They're one and two going into the last round, but Tiger's like, he's hanging in there. He's eight under. He's kind of scraping it around, not putting it great. This is one of the few times when he was like tinkering with a different putter set up.

There's a lot of talk and this will come up in the next thing about Nike was one of the few sponsors that was like 100% were willing to stick with you. We're not going to sort of abandon you in midst of all this scandal stuff. And there's always been sort of a feeling within the golf world that Nike wanted him to play one of their putters because the Scottie camera was the one thing that he sort of refused to abandon. So that'll come back. He doesn't go with it yet,

but he plays a different kind of Scottie camera and that we never sort of see him play again. This is also the year of the famous GIF that you important talk about all the time that you watch just to feel alive. Where Tiger Flixit and walks as you search. Not, that's 2011, we're to get to that. Yeah. Yeah. This is one of my highlights. Okay. Well, then I apologize to the thing.

I'm that's the year. So you can you can shame me appropriately. So Phil makes a sort of a he just kind of like after the after he hits the shot on to 13 with them through the trees. Like just kind of like after the after he hits the shot onto to 13 with them through the trees, like it kind of gives them right. Well, met him westwood sort of slowly kind of bleeds away out of this. Is this the year that Phil made Eagle 13, Eagle 14 and almost Eagle 15 on Saturday? Yes it is. Okay. We've almost had the true American of the three Eagles. And so essentially Phil kind of just outlasts everyone. This is also the the Sunday that Anthony Kim finishes in T. All alone in third as he shoots 65 in the last day. It's kind of the brightest moment of AK's career. We never really see him

shine quite like this again. He touched the sun. He did touch the sun He definitely flew a little bit too high And this is the year that That nance says when when Nicholson wins a one for the family Which a lot of people sort of thought was a shot at Tiger Woods who would sort of you know ruin his own Pay life but Phil was here and there was a lot of like backlash about of backlash about how do you know what Phil, Michelson's family is like. I remember a lot of angst amongst Tiger fans that Nance was not just giving a shout out

to Phil and Amy and Phil's mom, both Amy and Phil's mom were battling breast cancer at the time, but this was a real dig at Tiger. So whether that's true or not, no idea. Right after this master's happens, maybe like three or three weeks, Hank Caney announces that he and Tiger are splitting ways. And this leads to one of my all-time favorite anecdotes in golf, where Mark Steinberg says to Hank, as revealed in the big myth, like, you can't do this to him.

You're his best friend and Hank is like, what? Like, why does it make any sense to me? Like is the dude who won't even give me a popsicle? How am I his best friend? So one of the things I remember from that book too is at the 2010, they're driving in the car and there's like Tiger is still reading articles about him and like scrolling down and reading the comments section under the articles. And which I've never understood Tiger to be like fragile in that way in terms of fan support and that that little nugget just always stuck with me as like, oh man. So he did see my comments into those articles.

We still love you Tiger. We'll support you to everything. Fuck Billy paid. All right. So the US open here. This is this is a Pebble Beach. Well, so I remember this, this being like, all right. Again, this was a long time for Tiger to go to not win a major, right?

So it's been two years now. And I remember going into the Pebble Beach being like, all right, if he doesn't win at Pebble, something's wrong here. We were here 10 years ago, and he won by 15. That means he should probably win by about 10. And if it doesn't, something's wrong here, which is very amateur, golf, I'm sure, quarterback opinion. This I think was the first time that I began to understand that if just because you like dominated on a course, a certain point in your life, like, that you're going to come back and do like similar things again, like everything is so different and golf.

It's like Rory Akeo this year, like nothing that happened with Rory in 2012 had any relation to what was happening in 2021, but we couldn't help but think like, whoa, I mean, maybe this will be what gets roaring back. Fashion check in here, this is the year that Phil started wearing pinstripe pants. Do you remember? Oh yeah, oh yeah. You know, these are, now, these are kind of like sepia tone colored.

They're not like white, they're kind of like that sort of old sepia tone look of like the Yankees when you see them in like old yellowed photos. Like the filters they put on like narcos for whenever they're in Mexico. Yeah. That's pretty much it. So this, why exactly feel excited to go with this? Not sure.

Um, Davis Love was wearing like honestly a costume like, a costume, like a Halloween costume, like a sweater that was just like over our guile to the nth degree. And this is also the year, you know, it's open, the Tiger went full-tannibal, which I is truly one of the great members. I think it's Tron that came up with this, right? The calling of the channel. I don't know, maybe you guys in general,

but it's a phrase that I've always loved, tan fans, Tan sweater. It looked crispy. It looked, it was, it was, it was working for me. Yeah. It was, it was gorgeous. So I, we'll get back to the Tannamull again because it makes another appearance. I don't know if you remember this, but it's, it, he, he wears it again.

And it's, I, what you were led to believe believes that Tiger should really go full-t animal again. Like, so Paul Casey is your first round leader. She needs to to wonder like Sean McKeill right there, another sort of interesting name, Rihushakawa, a shot back, Mike Weir, a shot back. These are all like, huh, like I didn't think that guy was, was in it. That's, that's kind of interesting.

Graham McDowell leads after your second round, but the main storyline is that the Dustin Johnson starts to sort of emerge. He fills only, fills in T-second. He's, you know, about, is in the running for two straight meters, but it kind of starts to fade a little bit. And really, as we get into third round, Dustin shoots a blistering 66. Tiger actually matches it. And if they're probably the shot, you can all remember most. From this is Tiger hitting three wood, like big, big fade around the tree on 18, getting onto the

green there to sort of close out that round. I think the best fist pump of Tiger's career, you know, like the big like, you know, not the big like upper cut fist pump, but like the sort of, you know, umpirey like strike free. So I would describe it. So we get in the final round and already Johnny Miller is like trying to breathe the choke, the DJ choke into existence. Like DJ is literally roasting Pebble Beach for three straight rounds. And he's on the first tee. And Johnny was like, he really needs to get through the first two at even par. He's going to start doubting himself. It's going to start going sideways quickly. Like, how's the fit on DJ's pants around this point? Is

he wearing like the weird tapered stuff at the heel? Like, yes, the next word to US Open, he's wearing these baggy white pants. It's just a tough look. It's very tough. And he's got the little sole patch. Oh no, you're his chin. So nothing like, you realize like what a better look the beard is for a beard DJ is a little bit scary. It's really like, you know, the most awkward dude

at the party, like kind of look for DJ. But so DJ comes out and he actually drives it, like, you know, he goes just into like the first cut on the first hole and it's like, okay, like Johnny's already starting to like say, you know, well, we sure seem a little nervous, kind of pulled out of his drive, but makes a par on the first. So it's like, okay, like, you know, well, we certainly seem a little nervous, kind of pulled out of his drive, but makes a par on the first.

So it's like, okay, like, you know, the first nerves of the first hole or out of the way, like, you know, smash is a drive on number two, and he's got like, like 155 into the green, like pitching wedge into the green, okay? And you're thinking like, middle of the fairway, there's no way this can go bad, right? Pushes it just a little bit right, it hangs up in the

fescue by the bunker. So at this point, like they, you know, Johnny and Hicks and then, Fairey, they think it's bad, but they don't think it's like a disaster. So DJ gets up there and he's kind of walking around and whatever and all credits to DJ, like, if he was going to fuck this up, like he did it in a really fast way. Like he was not about like slow play us. So DJ gets up there, he flips the club over and it's clear like he's going to hit a left handed shot. I don't know if you forgot about it.

So he takes a left handed swing and it probably goes maybe two feet, like maybe maybe three feet at the most. So everyone's like, oh my god, like what was that really necessary? So then DJ sets up to hit like a big flop shot. And he's taking like these big, big, like, Mikkelson flop shot swings. And I'm not kidding, he hits it maybe a foot. It hauls like, it's like when you see like a 20 handy cap, attempt like a big flop in like in a possible situation, it basically just like nuzzles sideways.

And at this point, it's like, what am I watching? Like this is horrendous. So then he hits it like a good chip that's maybe like two feet from the hole. And you're like, okay, well, if you can save double here, like it's going to be okay. He shoves it like, it doesn't, it's like six inches right in the hole. So isn't it around this time and maybe it's just because I, you know, we've just seen what's happened in 2009, like it felt pretty normal to watch somebody melt down on a Sunday of a major.

You know what I mean? It felt like I feel like in these days, the last several years have been defined more by success of the winners than they are, like the failure of the people. There's not like, I'm probably blanking on something that's collapsed that's happened recently, but like, I don't know. It just seemed like, all right, we got Ricky Barnes doing this. We got, we're about to get Rory doing his thing. We got, you know, so and so at, you know, Kenny Perry, you know, we have Ty here just blowing this, like it just felt like we kept getting punched in the gut on repeat. And I just kind of remember this happening. It's like, yep, that felt like it was, it was ready to happen. I think so. I think also I want to throw out a take care. I think this is evidence that

the US open had more teeth. Like if you missed in certain spots, you were screwed. Whereas now, like I think, you know, if you miss, like you might make double, but you're not going to make an eight. Totally. We had none of that, right? If you missed it right next to a green, you were going to, if you made double, like you really fell on yourself. And this is like, no, you might make triple from this lie. Yeah, I don't remember a hundred% who DJ's caddy was. I didn't catch it at this time, but it's kind of about as bad of a caddying job as you can do. Like up there with John Vanaville,

like he blows three shots in maybe like a minute 30, like it's just completely, and he's, then what gets worse is he steps up on the third tee, and it kind of tries to take a line that's like so ridiculous, like, let's get it all back at once. And tries to like drive the green, like 380 yards away, and hits it over by like 16 tee, and it's buried in something like, you know, eight feet of grass. They look for five minutes,

they have no chance of finding a ball. So he has to climb on the cart and drive back to him. So it's like all of a sudden, just a complete train wreck of, and I didn't really, but you think of DJ's swing now was like being pretty simple, like not a lot of like moving parts or thoughts to it

or whatever, but Johnny is going crazy about how many... How many... This is the era of guys turning their left wrist down and coming hard across the ball. And the DJ is really the first guy to do this in a way that's super power oriented. They cannot stop talking about how far he drives the ball. Like, it's all powers, games all power, and that's why he could hit, honestly,

like 75% of the greens in the through for three rounds of that. But Johnny cannot quite grasp like the mechanics of DJ's swing and it's just like tearing it apart. Like there's so many things that could go wrong in this swing. And that's why like I just don't know if this lever hold up under pressure. This is definitely, you realize now, like you think the A'singer says pressure a lot, like they're every single time someone in a US open misses any shot. It's like, well, it's got to be pressure, Johnny, like that. You just can't

handle the pressure, you know, and just you're Johnny's like, you never know what It's like, well, it's got to be pressure, Johnny, like that. You just can't handle the pressure, you know, it just, you're Johnny's like, you never know what it's like to stand up there with that pressure. Is this the, do you, like, I don't know if this was in highlights. Is DJ, maybe this could have been an AT&T one year. He drove number four, like with an iron, they moved the T up one of the days. He drove it and made eagle with an iron. I don't remember if that was this year or not, but I don't know why that, if that was this year, then it would have been the third round when she didn't go

back and and I remember that that being like a significant whatever he did that of like a whoa, the power game in golf is like this is changing like things are getting a little bit. This good to a two iron like two hundred ninety plus yards up a hill and you know, making Eagle with it. It was kind of like hey this things might be changing out here a little bit so Phil drives the that green the fourth green in the final round with a three wood. They talk about how the The green they move the green back even a little bit because yesterday guys were reaching it with long arms So the tea back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, interesting So obviously Granite Dell is the guy who comes out of this.

Graham only made one birdie like the whole day. So it's like a kind of a long slog. It wasn't. No one went out and got it in this time period. That's the thing. It's like, it's just, so Graham was, so Phil was obviously that he was the third ranked player in the world when he won the Master's,

but Graham was 37th in the world. But the prior year, we had 69, 71, 33 and 110 ranked players in the world. So we're on this run where one guy in the top, you know, 30 has won a major of the last six. Yeah. So the low round of the day was actually Matt Coocher, one of the only guys who shot under par. Davis Love was had a really good round going

within double 17. It just really like, it wasn't even any drama to it or whatever by the end. Like, you know, Graham Havarray was in a... Gregor Havarray, that's right. That's right, Gregor Havarray. And it ended up finishing the second. It was always like one of my favorite moments in golf.

I think I wrote a blog about this for the Baltimore Sun like way back in the days. His when Graham wins, his dad comes out onto the green one of my favorite moments in golf. I think I wrote a blog about this for the Baltimore Sun like way back in the days. Is when Graham wins, his dad comes out onto the green and like sort of like holds him like painstead style like with your heads around your cheeks. And in case he says, you're some kid, you are some kid. And it was just struck me as like the most wonderfully

Irish thing to ever say. And he said like Graham gives him a happy father's day dad or something like that too, which that always gets me the happy Father's Day coming off the 72nd hole at the US Open. That that always gets me. Yeah, that was that was one of the first times I really kind of like think I was like, I gotta call my dad. Well, it's not it's it's nuts. I'm just pulled up the page like. So DJ started the day at six under and GMAC wins it at even. Yeah. So one thing I always think about about this is that whenever people talk about like, and this

is a little bit the tiger thing, whenever people talk about like what great like closers and stuff, fill and Ernie and tiger were, if any of them had shot even par on this day, they would have made it into playoffs with McDowell and they couldn't do it. Obviously, the conditions were so tough that shooting even par was not, that would be the equivalent of shooting three under or something, but it's Pebble Beach. It's the place where Tiger completely roasted when it was as hard as ever and he just didn't, he had it the day before and then something was just different on the next day. One minor thing I always laugh about too,

is this is not on camera, which I think if it was, it would be like a classic Phil moment. At some point, like on the, I think it was on the 15th or 16th pull, or excuse me, it's like an iron shot that goes right to the green, and it comes to rest on like a bundle of television cables and Phil, instead of choosing to hit a draw,

like tries to clip it off the television cables, which I think is just such a classic thing. But of course, NBC doesn't have to put a jump in. We don't have to hear it on afterwards. That like Roger tells us and we all feel it had to offer television cables and the last shot, we're like, that'd be great to see him. I'm like, what happened? We went a smoke break? While we were away. Yeah. So I remember being heartbroken that the cat didn't win that one, though. Yes.

It was, I mean, that just felt like when he made that shot at 8 into 18 on Saturday, the yellow Nike 3 would and gave the umpire fist pump. That felt like the cat was back. Like I remember like, I think like Tareko was on the call. For some reason, I feel like it was on ESPN, like the Saturday round or something. Anyway, something was like, I have a very vivid memory of that. And it was just like a moment, right? Like that was like, oh, tiger's doing tiger things again.

All right, well, he didn't win Pebble, but he's won the last two with the old course. If he doesn't win at the old course, now something's really wrong. That was my 20, 21 year old brain at this point. Yeah. Two places in a row where he's been completely dominant. Well, it turns out another era of offer is about to kind of emerge here because who shoots 63 on day one of the British open? Is it not Louis? No, it's Rory Mell. Oh, that's right.

No. St. Andrews with a 63. And on 17, Rory hits a pretty good drive into the fairway as like 186 and hits it to three feet on 17 the road hole. The ball I'm not kidding was so high in the air that it stopped over the bunker and was short of the pin on from 186. So this is like, you're like, okay,

like here's the someone who can do things that we have really never seen before, like the, or not never seen, but like the first person since Tiger who can hit long irons that are just incredible. And for worries, Rory is the only guy in this time period that made me think like, is this a worthy topic to do? Because we do get Rory emerging in this time, but he's really the only one that's like entering this scene that it feels very, very different. Yes. DJ maybe, but yeah. Rory misses that putt by the way.

So if he made that three footer on 17, he would have shot 62, which would have been the lowest round ever in a major until what the Brandon Grace shoots it at Berkdale. So I'm going to give you the first name of a gentleman that there's four guys. I don't know. Five guys, excuse me. Five guys who were tied for a second on after day one. I'm gonna give you their name and I would like you to try to guess their their last name, okay? Because this is an exercise. I love it. Okay. Andrew. Not Landry. It wouldn't be the Andrew Landry, but I'll say Landry. Andrew Colthart. Oh, okay. It's under Bradley.

Bradley Hughes. Bradley Dredge. Nope. That's not a real person. Who is it really? Peter, Peter Hansen. Peter Tilly. Another Peter.

This is Peter Hansen. Okay. That one. And then John Sendin. John Daly shoots six under at the 2010 British Open, sort of a throwback to when he had won it, not all that long ago. So kind of a lot of interesting, crazy names on a British open that ultimately ends up being a total runaway is kind of like a crazy

Start to it because like it's guys are completely tearing up the old course in a way that probably makes you think like okay Well, wind is sort of a pretty important defense to this place Because because Rory just goes out and wins it by 20, right? After she gets down to it. Yeah, wait, nope. The next day, Rory almost goes full Camillo and shoots 80. So perhaps, I've always theorized that the best way for Rory to win a major now in this era of like, whereas head is overthinking is if he went out and went like 63, 80,

80, 63 or something like 70, 80, like completely posted up a number where it was like started the day in 25th place and then all of a sudden like, it was like, oh, like Rory doesn't have to think about this at all. Like he's just, everyone's gonna fall back to him with a huge wind storm just came in and all of a sudden Rory was sitting in the clubhouse for three hours

and won this. Is he 20 at this point or is he 21? He is 20 at this point. Yeah, so he has just turned to 20. And it's 80, sorry, he would have been 21 because he was born 89, may of 89, I just looked it up. So the British press is going quite bonkers thinking like this is the, you know, this is his coming out party.

Like he, he says in some interviews, afterwards I've always loved this place, going quite bonkers thinking like this is the you know this is his coming out party like he he says in some interviews afterwards I've always loved this place which is a lie because later he sort of reveals that he hated St. Andrews and hated links until he got older didn't learn to appreciate it till he got older so basically he just loved it because he kind of roasted it in the first day. Sometimes on this is to 40 mile in our wins like a lot of crazy scores the second day Sometimes on this is so 40 mile in our wins like a lot of crazy scores the second day Sometimes on highlight films. You'll see where Miguel Haneel chemins hits it off the wall on the road hole Oh, yeah green. That's this a championship. He actually still made double on that Park it's kind of left out It's a great highlight. Yeah, So could you guess what Rory finishes

after going 63-80? T11. He finishes third. Oh, that's right. The Rory just basically had one kind of god awful day, kind of like Tiger at Mirfield that one year. And otherwise pretty decent open championship for him So he just maybe gotten a better draw got Louis draw would have been sort of interesting to see if he had actually hung around if like

Maybe that you know he would because he was one of the few guys who could have Given us a game, but Louis basically starts to kind of just Emerge like through two rounds. He's 12 under par. He goes 65, 67. And in second place, I'll give you another guess. An old American lion come back to sort of to give one more shot at this. Who would you guess that would be? It's not Calc, is it?

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It's for T7 with a bunch of dudes like Riteef Goosin, Miguel Analemones, Tom Laman would have been another decent answer of an American line coming back to war once more. Jin Ji-ong of South Korea in second place, average, you know, not a member. Nor is Alejandro Kanizaris. That was a new name to me.

Amateurs making their debut, the Victor Dupli Son, who later sort of emerged in the golf world. And then just disappear without explanation. Another like when we go looking for Anthony Kim, we should also go looking for Victor DeBris. They might be playing in the same poker game somewhere. That would be amazing, right? It's like a short story. Stumbling in like a dingy LA like basement.

And there's there's Victor DeBris on and Anthony Kim. And I don't know, maybe YA because he's just an Anthony. Probably Phil is there too. You know, they have to be nervous. Yeah. Yeah. All right, so Louis then, again, he's still kind of put in his foot on the gas.

She's 69 in the third round. This is kind of a little bit like, I don't feel like there's a lot really that happens that's all that interesting the rest of the way, because Louis never really kind of is, it's not even really competitive. Paul Casey makes a mess, right? Three at one point, like he,

it's, he's hanging in there, he's trying, he's fighting, he's trying to make it some sort of, you know, contests, he, the Louis Bogie's eight. And so it's, he cases at 11 under, Louis at 14 under, but then Louis Eagles nine. And then Casey triples 12. He hits it right in the gorse completely like, you know, it's a non contest. Like, we only, what the bummer part of it is is like, we only get St Andrews every five years. And so for this to be like a, like a snooze fest, yeah, kind of a bummer. You're like, oh, I got to wait another five years just to go back to St Andrews. Like,

that stinks. Well, and I just, I, again, was much more of an amateur golf fan at this time. But I was like, Louis, who's to, I've literally never heard of this guy before this tournament. And he's going to win it by like a dozen It's up in like seven or whatever it was, but it was just like we're on this run of like dude What is going on in golf like how are how are these names where these people coming from that are winning these tournaments? Which probably wasn't fair like you know like it it it's just but you know Especially because of the American I probably fall to American golf closer there than

It's just, you know, especially because the American, I probably fall out of American golf closer there than I do now, necessarily. So it's like, there was no Americans emerging at this time. What would you have guessed, Louise odds would have been coming into that week? 150 to one? 200 to one. Wow.

I'm betting that, you know, Laddie Brooks did not take a lot of bets on Louise. How would guess not? Coming into that. Other notable things, Tom Watson sort of tips his cap and kisses this willick and bridge on his way out. And so basically says, this is it for me. So narrator, it would not be it for him. It would not be it.

One thing I thought was super funny is everyone, particularly like the British press loves to invoke Nelson Mandela, like any time a South African golfer is involved in seven. So there was a line like in the, I think it was the telegraph. No one could have failed to be moved by the South African's tribute to the father of his nation, Nelson Mandela. He celebrated his 92nd birthday today, and then they quote from Louis, I was thinking about him walking down the 18th his nation, Nelson Mandela, celebrated his 92nd birthday today. And then they quote from Louis, I was thinking about him walking down the 18th fairway,

he said, adding that he did not know if Mandela was a fan of Link's golf. And then it says, surely he must be now. It's like the spade, anything that happens to any spaniards got to be be it's the 46th anniversary of this time that's said he you know Fudge this coin marking or something like that. It's always like has to be tied to something Spanish hands. Yeah There's only if it's if it's not African. It's either gonna be Gary player knows Mandela if it's a spaniard It's you're gonna hear about something. That's just how it works What was funny is I did I did this kind of emcee this thing that this week for one of our partners that Darren Clark was involved.

It was telling stories of, you know, the, the Clare at Jug and he just said, you know, it was up until 1969. It was the, you win the Clare at Jug. It was your responsibility to get your name etched on the trophy. And I was like, oh, that's very, like, very specific like here. And I thought back to it.

I was like, who went 1968 winner? That was Gary, here, now he thought back to us like, who went 1968 winner? That was Gary Player. That was the year he put his name in bold on the Claret jug. And then they changed the rule that you were no longer in charge of putting your own name on the Claret jug. Twice as big as any other name on there. Gary's personal engraver guy was like, oh, yeah, why not just blow it up huge here?

All right, the last major of 2010 we are going long We're I my 11 is a lot lighter. I know we're It took a little longer to get through the beginning part of this for sure So it's out wishing straits. Do you remember where it was supposed to be? Before that was it was moved from an old place to whistling straights did not know this the 2010 PJ championship was supposed to be at Solhe at in Seattle, the country club out there, where VJ Singh had won his major.

The PGA said in 2005 they were moving it because they had had record crowds at the 2004 PGA at Whistling, and they were worried about the financial support the Pacific Northwest could provide, particularly coming off the Vancouver Olympics. So like Seattle area, the Pacific Northwest got a major snatch away from them by an Olympics

that wasn't even in their country. Basically, the PGA was basically like, yeah, we can make a lot more money. Go on. Yeah. We're gonna take it there. And there's all these like, you can go back and read like all these editorials and the LCL times about like the PGA deserves to

You know reward Seattle with another major though. They should be back here anytime soon if the PGA has any balls and like No chance to ever go back to solute which is like 6,900 yards or whatever like not a not a place that's like and also, they went just to holly for the KPMG women's PGA. There you go. 2015 and Brooke, uh, Brooke Henderson won that one, but the PGA America loves the midwest man. Like look at the Ryder Cup sites. I mean, we did, we covered, you could cover, uh, Vahala, Wistengstrates, Medina and Hazeltein all in one road trip. We did that. We're gonna have some content that's finally is going gonna come out on it. And like they went to, yeah, they went O4 PGA there,

they went 2010 PGA, they would go back in 2015. Of course, the Ryder Cup next year's a whistling. They fell in love with whistling. I mean, like, it did produce some, a cool sort of, like we were get some interesting things that come to forefront here in a sec. But one thing that I think that we have not fully considered about the Ryder Cup

is that this both rounds at the first two rounds of PGA were delayed by weather. Do you know what weather delayed them? Was it fog? Fog. Yes. Three-hour fog delays in the Duel of Things. So it does make me wonder like as a writer cup going

there, we're going to have like some thick soupy fog that is going to roll in just and that I'm sure the year olds will claim that you know the Americans have done this somehow, but we were there in 19 on the year out at the year out kind of opening media day or whatever, weather was ass. It was so bad. I mean, like, they got so lucky at Hazel Teen. I mean, it was the most like the three most blue bird days you could possibly imagine for the fall. They've gotten lucky in past Midwest rider cups, but like, it can be 45 in rainy at Western Straits in October. Or I guess it's going to be September now, but it can get questionable up there. Yeah. It's, it'll be an interesting one to see. So coming into this tournament,

our man, who's sort of the ever present hero of all the narrative Tiger Woods, not doing particularly well, he had just finished up the bridge stone where he had finished up 18 over par. One of the worst performances of Tiger's career. So like the game was not exactly in a great place at this moment. Do you know who called the course record at Whistling Strait, Sully?

Is it Steve Elkington? It is not. It was set in this tournament. It is Leon Wenxiong of China. What? Leon Wenxiong shot 64 in this in this PGA to set the course record at Whistler. I've never heard that name. I've never heard that name one time. Leon played in 10 majors in his career. He missed eight cuts. He finished 64th at the Open Championship in 2008. And this PGHamanship he finished eighth. So what? Yes. So I don't feel that we're not knowing that name. I've potted into the the career of Leon Wenchang but there it was right there. So in this PGHamanship a lot going on like a lot of like Nick Watney is your sort of leader through three rounds,

led by three shots. Everyone was thinking like, whoa, is Nick Watney about to announce himself as the next sort of great American player? He was a force in this time period. He put up some years. Another ball striker, right? Another great iron player that probably,

certainly Nick Watney is still bounce around like if you don't drive it 340, like you're not going to have these kind of chances anymore. Borschtly, Nick Watney shot 81 in the final round again following a theme. He was the DJ of this year. It was like the final round leader just, hey, it ain't going to happen. Whoever you are, it ain't going to happen. Yeah.

As you probably remember, uh, Bubba and, Baba and Martin Kimer end up in a playoff. This is also the year that Dustin Johnson touched the bunker and the whole meltdown over that. But do you know how to put on 18 that could have gotten him into that playoff? I do. A young, Rodric McElroy. Yes. Borey, like, kind of really announcing himself in the last two majors as like a real force.

You would not think that Whistling would be like a course that, you know, he would be able to sort of tear up, you know, you miss it a little bit here and there's gonna be a huge feat of Fescue, but Rory plays a great fall around and has an honestly hits a really good putt. Yeah, on 18, that's just a low, I remember this, but yeah. good put. Yep, on 18. Just tell low, I remember this, but yeah. So after DJ, you know, I don't feel like we need to, is this Rory? Rory's got the mop going right in this year. I get it's a big, it's coming out the sides of the hat. It's a big, it's a, it's a, it's a look. He's got going. I believe one of the more like famous like pictures of Rory that this is occasionally on sort of Twitter, like the how it started, how it's going thing is like of Rory taking off his hat on 18 from this and his hair is like everywhere.

It's like bigger than any of the Beatles and like the height of the mobbiest sort of era. So Elk actually had a chance to get into this playoff as well. He bogie 17 and 18. And Zach Johnson, not like I will say as a decent course, if you are, if Zach Johnson and Rory McElroy are and finish a shot out of a playoff, that's a kind of a nice variety in terms of like how your course is allowing other people to compete. Want to give a shot to Camilla of a J.G.S. He finishes T8 in this. This is his last top 10 in a major. Kind of he's about to drop off of the face of the earth a little bit here, but he was another pretty kind of a force in this. So the playoffs pretty exciting.

Well, before we get to the playoffs, the one thing that I've always been thankful for when it came to the DJ thing, thank God he didn't make the par what he thought was the par put that would have in theory won the pga for him. Yeah. If he busts out into that celebration and then has to make come up and tell him you just got two shot penalty and you're not in the playoff. That would have been even more haunting than you know he's you know as it was he was going to be in a three man playoff. Let's put his chances of winning it at maybe slightly better than one third. If you would have won and had it taken away from him, that would have been like one of the low points

like in golf history that I can think of. I think that's a hundred percent accurate. That is a great point that I have not fully considered. But yeah, the full, like what if his girlfriend of the time runs onto the green? Like, oh, it could be, it could be pretty crazy. Titu, I mean, where did you net out on, was it a bunker? I mean, well, I think the most bullshit thing about it is like, there's people standing

in the fucking bunker. Right. So, how can you say that this is, I mean, look, everywhere that week, in the locker rooms whatever, there were signs supposedly posted that said, all sand is treated as bunker. Like it's not waste area, don't assume that you know, it treated as a bunker, which is, I think they've changed the rule of that, right? Like it's not the case anymore. That bunker doesn't even exist anymore. They basically filled it in. So that's like, there's no, even, you can't even put a memorial plaque up there for DJ. It's sort of a, the here lies DJ where you lost yet another major.

It's so absurd though, like the picture, like it just looks like a dirt patch on a hill. It doesn't look like sand. There's no lip to it. There's no edge to it at all. Like some of the bunkers out there have edges to them. Maybe they've just refined them more now, but like you just look at that and you're just like, no, I want to, I was just like, it is didn't like, no, I don't want to, I don't want to. I also think you do, like, it is, it is, like, there's a stupid philosophical argument to make, right?

It's like, if a bunker is like the transition, if there's no lip between it, then where does the bunker stop and where does the grass begin? Like if DJ's ball had been partially in the sand, but partially on grass, is that a bunker? Like if it's sandy grass, is that a bunker? Like no one can sort of actually tell you, like if there's no grass, is that a bunker? Like, no one can sort of actually tell you, like if there's no lip in a bunker,

then I don't, I think it should be treated like a waste area. Like, I think that's completely ridiculous, like to sort of say, like, oh, especially if you can't control the fact that there's fans for can standing like three feet from you inside the bunker. Like, the window that he has to hit it through is kind of nuts anyway, because all the fans are like leaning into the shot.

It's pretty crazy. Oh, gosh. That would, that would have been a Twitter moment. to hit it through is kind of nuts anyway, because all the fans are like leaning into the shot. It's pretty crazy. Gosh, that would've been a Twitter moment. That might've been number one Twitter moment of like, what the hell are they doing to them? So the playoff is actually pretty exciting. Bubba makes a birdie on the first hole. And then Karammer, Martin Kimer, excuse me,

comes back and makes a birdie. And on 18, they both hit kind of like, skanky drives, but Martin Kimer has to chip out essentially like just like chip 30 yards down the fairway. Like he's got no shot from what he hit it into. Bubba takes like a full rip at the green, which probably not the wisest decisions considering that Hammer just had to chip out.

Poshes it just a little bit left and it goes into the hazard. So then Bobby hits like a frickin crap shot like out of the stuff there and goes into the bunker and he almost chips in for Bogey, but Kymar ends up, he makes double and Kymar wins it with a Bogey. So not a very significant, like great ending to everything,

but a pretty exciting plow for a moment. not a very significant, great ending to everything, but a pretty exciting playoff for a moment. Like a body blow exchange of birdies is kind of a neat sort of thing. Yeah, gosh, it's weird that Bubba's that close to three majors now. Oh, yeah. And it's definitely remembered more for DJ than it is Kym or Winning it.

People have to think about, you know, it's same with like the next one, the Masters is, you know, you think about Rory not winning it more than you do Schwartz or winning it, but, yeah. So on that note, flipping over to 2011, winners on the tour this year include Mark Wilson, Jonathan Bird, DA points, Johnson Wagner, Michael Bradley's fourth career win. He wins back to back at Puerto Rico. Bradley. Harrison Frazier, Freddie Yackebsen, Sean O'Hare, Scott Stolling, Steve Stricker, Bryce Mulder, and Ben Crane, wins his fourth career tour event in 2011.

This is prime golf boys, SCN in this time period. And Mayhan is going Mayhan, you know, Luke Donald wins the money list with $6.6 million. Nick Watney's third on there with 5.2 KJ Choi is 4.4 million dollars in 2011. We go the masters. Rory and Alvaro Kiroz jump out to the first round lead with 65s. KJ Choi and Y.E. Yang. He doesn't go away and he will not go away in 2011. Rory has smoothed 69 round two, two shot lead at 10 under over Jason Day, KJ, and Tiger at 7 under.

Saturday and other smooth 70 from Rory, he's at 12 under, four shot lead over Onhell, KJ Choi, Jason Day, and Charles Schwarzel. Charles shot 68 to come from outside the top 10 to get into the tie for second, going into the final round. On Sunday, that fateful Sunday, eight different players hold the lead at some point in this final round, including a five way tie for the lead at one point on the back nine.

Rory shoots a 37 on the front is shaky. The entire time flips over to the back and makes just the infamous triple bogey duck cooks one hits a tree hits it between the cabin. At this point, I think it's worth noting before the Rory bashing gets too hard on this one, he would have had to shoot 69 on that day to win outright, which is just something that I don't really, he wouldn't need it a back nine 32 four shots seems like a big lead going into that final day and score were low that day and it was possible but he wasn't even like freaking close I mean he shoots 80 it's not even in the round or just shoot the masters like it's but despite all the parses nice stuff like

not a lot of guys you go back to his research and like not a lot of guys shoot like you know break 70 on like a day when they really have to. Like, you know, what happens for sure? Winners, but it's not often. It's not like I had a ton of guys who do it. So, and he flips over and she's 37 on the front. He need to need a 32 on the back to get that winning number and 33 would have put him in a playoff. But I just got to say, Rory's whole aesthetic on this day

is just awful. I mean, black trim on the sleeves of his shirt, black and yellow stripes in the middle. He's got black pants that don't fit him. A black hat is shirt is coming on top. His pants are way too long. He just looks sloppy. Like, and it, it's no, I actually texted him today.

I was trying to get like an insight into when his body transformation started because he shows up at Congressional and just looking different. Like, he really, it had to be sometime in that time period of like, my body needs to change. We know it does change eventually by really by 2012, but it seems like after this major is the one where he's like, all right, it's time to start taking things a little bit more serious. On El Cabrera, like I said, he's pretty much kept

at this point only showing up at the majors, but a little forgotten thing about 2011. The cat. You're kind of... Seven back to start the day, again, But a little forgotten thing about 2011 the cat Tiger seven back to start the day again doing really absolutely nothing is getting me He's fallen, you know, he's no longer number one in the world Starts a seven back birdies two and three and actually bogies four turns around birdies six and seven And then hits an insane hook into eight gets all the way back there to the back pin, the ball rolls forever. Crowd go and absolutely apes it, drains the eagle and lets out one of the more memorable, like just punch fist pumps, just like just lights the place up.

And he's the questions, you know, we're really out there about him at that point. He goes out and shoots 31 on the front, tied for the lead. I go back and watch that eagle pretty somewhat regularly. It was like a really, really freaking cool moment. I remember where I was watching that. He's one back of Rory through eight holes after starting seven back. But he flips over, three puts number 12.

Again, never say the cat made every putt the matter. It was a short, short putt on 12. Drives it into a very ideal spot on 13, but hits it over the green, doesn't make birdie there. And then, so flipping over, this is around the time when Rory starts doing his thing on 10, Fowl calls it adrenaline, by the way. Why Rory went left?

It's because of adrenaline. But it's his third shot on 10 that really causes issues for me. He's got a fairway wood, but pulls it way left. I mean, he could have hit that on the green and made five pretty decently easily, but it's a way left his chip hits a tree and ends up making seven. It's not that he was so far back after snapping it into the cabin. Yes.

That even after punching it down, he had fairway wooded. Yeah. And the ball rolled for a while after he punched it out there too, but it's so surreal, man. There's like one handheld camera that's it out there too. But it's so surreal, man. There's like one handheld camera that's like shaking, like trying to get, it's probably zoomed in really far. And like when you have that much zoom on a camera, it's hard to keep it steady, trying to get an image of him between the cabins punching out and like JP trying to get

a number for him, like it, it's memorable and it just, it's, it's, it's really tough to watch. But so around the same time, Kat misses a makeable birdie on 14 and then hits just a monster drive, 315 down the middle of the fairway and hits the five iron of his life into 18 or into 15. Just does the most casual and subtle little twirl as he starts walking. Lans right in front of the pen,

rolls five feet past it. In between like him strutting and like the cut to him, he's passed off the five iron, he's got that horrible Nike putter that he's walking up to the green with. And he put the sunglasses on, right? And then it puts his sunglasses on. He was like fighting pollen that year.

It was like, oh, he needs to wear the sunglasses for pollen, which is like to see him wearing sunglasses on the golf course is sort of like, it doesn't seem right. Like it's like getting the Mona Lisa with a mustache or something like just something's wrong about it. And then he's got a five foot eagle putt to take the solar lead, the 2011 Masters, and he misses it. And it goes pretty much as far by and he makes the birdie come backer. But so he's now, and again, it's kind of misleading. It's always misleading at Augusta. If you've played, if you're through the 15th hole, you've had more birdie opportunities

than the guys behind you have and all that. That's not truly leading. No, it's, and he knows this because you watch it, he's pissed off. Like, he knows that he needed more, like, you need a D-go, he needed, make that birdie in 14 if he wanted to have a real chance. At this time, it looks like 12 is probably going to be

a really good number to get in at. Tiger, Onhill, KJ, Adam Scott and Charles Swartz are all tied for the lead at 10 under at this point. Again, of those five names, Tiger, On Hill, KJ, Adam Scott and Charles Swartz, in 2011, who's the least likely to win in that situation? Got to be Charles Swartz. Who at this point, everyone is still calling him Charles because they can't actually figure out that like his name is Charles, which I was surprised. CPS was all over Swartzville from the beginning of the day. I mean,

he was, he was a bigger story that I kind of remembered him coming out of nowhere, but he chipped in for Eagle on three, which is a, and then he really stalls out in the middle of that round, makes nothing but bars in between the, I think he makes one bogey and all bars until he gets to 15 famously birdies 15 16 17 and 18 to steal it Jason day and out in Scott finished two shots back of him. It really looked like it was going to be an Aussie coronation there for a little while. And then yeah, Tigers the only American in the top five. Bo Van Pelt and Ryan Paul are the only other Americans in the top 10 at the two that 2011 Masters. You could have said Bo Van Pelt. Like, I mean, I know I remember Bo Van Pelt, but you the idea that like he

finished the top 10 of the Masters in like Tiger's prime as well. Just a whole, just a big time indictment of American golf at this point. But US open, we go to congressional. This was not, there was not much in this. And I'm kind of curious to get your opinion as to why that is because Rory goes out and wins this thing by eight yet. I never hear people refer to it as one of the great golf performances of all time You won the US open by eight shooting 16 under and I think it a big reason is like there's tons of rain Balls are spinning back at congressional other than the USGA flags

It doesn't look like they're playing a US open. I mean It just looks like PGA Tour Central. He was just on fire that week, just ball striking the shit out of it, running in so many 15 footers that with just convincing fist pumps that we just don't see out of him anymore. But again, he's looking slightly less sloppy, you know, just he's got a little cleaner whites on in the summertime. A little bit of a pukachelle thing on here. I don't remember if there was a pukachelle there, but some kind of like necklace, I think, going on and something. But I wondered this kind of setup,

what scores would look like 10 years later, like with this level of bomber, just the total, like the plethora of guys that are capable of taking a course like that deep in this era. I just wondered what that would look like. You know, the Congo is like so mad over the membership that, you know, it didn't show like it was supposed to and stuff. I just don't, I don't know if you ever play congressional, but it's just not that interesting

of a course. Like maybe the redo that they've just done, you know, will change that. Manger Green who's a really good young architect whatever I think is the guy. But goodness, it's just not really that compelling to watch golf there. It's, you know, yeah, you just need it to be firmer. You need some kind of conditions

because you have balls are backspending with seven irons and stuff like that. And so Schwartzall and Y.E. Yang get in at three under in round one. Y.E. yet again, he's paired with Anthony Kim and Rio Ishaqa. I honestly thought Rio was Ricky. Rio looks like he's dressed like Ricky Fowler. I'm like, Rewinded. I was like, wait, oh no, that's Rio Ishaqa. Round two, Rory goes deep again, shoot 66. He holds out a pitching wedge from the fairway. He actually hit it in the water on the 18th and made double to shoot 66 and gets in at 11 under through two rounds.

Five shots clear, a Y-E-Yang, nine shots clear, a third after two rounds. Robert Garagas, Sergio, ZJ, Koocher, and Sneds all at two under, Brent Job, Kim Kyung-Tai, Robert Rock and Heat Slokum all in the top 10 after 36 holes. This might be why Rory is able to win this shot with this event by eight shots. He shoots 68 on Saturday leads by eight over why he Yang. The guy just doesn't go away. Rory shoots 69 on Sunday. Hits the iconic shot in front of the whole gallery on 10 in the par three there to a foot shoot 1600 day finishes in second at minus eight

Yang Garagas and Kevin Chappell and Lee Westwood. I'll tie for third At 10 shots back and yeah, we're just a masterclass the word that the Cinderella story of rebound from the heartache at Augusta and He's now a major champion at 21 years old so and, and does the happy father stay dead as he has even lost his son? And Graham McDowell, like, was hanging around to watch Rory, like giving him fist pumps and then being like best of buds and then about to basically like, you know, not speak again because of their management dispute or whatever, like the whole like,

the of those two or like mentors and best friends thing is kind of funny, like back. Like when's the last time you heard like, Graham talk about Rory, or Rory talk about Graham. Like, not a lot of it. But I don't think they're not on like speaking to,

I know they've got sour. I think they've gotten better. I mean, Rory stroked like what a $20 million check towards the management company or whatever it was just to like get on with it. But that's a little under report. We should dive into that at some point. But that was such a weird thing, right?

Like the management people totally, Roy found out that he was totally getting screwed over and was like, excuse me, like, or, you know, I don't even remember the specific details of it, but it just seemed like kind of a nuts thing. Yeah, and I just, but I just, like he probably could have fought it harder than he did, but he said rather than have the distraction.

It was super baller move, yeah. It's a stroke of 20 million dollar check. Like leave me alone, don't know. I don't want to sit in a position ever again. So that's really pretty much all I've got from Congressional is kind of like, I do remember watching that with like just a, I don't know, like just such reverence for that performance. I remember being super amp for that. I was really, I don't know if that's where my Rory fandom really started, but I was like, oh, shit, we got a new guy. Like, it's the new, I don't want to say the new tiger, but like, we got a new like up

and coming guy, like people don't run out and win majors by H shots at age 21. And that got me super amps. I think that's kind of where my Royal Legends probably started right around that time. I do remember pulling hard from that just because I remember him crying Like he put his head in his hand at Augusta on I Think it's 13 he hit it left into the trees or whatever and it was like he knew with that moment that it was over He was not gonna shoot 32 in the back nine or whatever that was like the end of the masters for him and

Just feeling like I wanted to like hug him and be like, oh man, like it's okay. You're gonna have so many shots. The man is just no way this place is gonna hold up to you. There's no way ten years from now. You'll still be chasing the Masters. Then we go over to St. George's, which gosh, I kind of remember this one being a little more interesting than it actually ended up being Thomas Bjorn and Tom Lewis the amateur shoots 65 in round one Lucas Glover and web Simpson and Miguel on Hellamenez at minus four there and Clark's in a big group at two Clark and Glover finish at four under after two rounds Glover again asserting himself Thomas Bjorn again Trying to avenge the one he let get away in 2003 is one shot back with Chad Campbell at minus three.

Darren Clarkson will lead after three rounds at 500, DJ has served himself and is at four, Ricky at Bjorn or at two. Phil goes out on that Sunday, shoots five under on the front to tie the lead and got it all the way to six under, but he boggeyed 14 and then had a gave a couple more back coming down the stretch. DJ, two back playing the par five, 14th, pretty much shanks it, OB makes double. Darren Clark has a four shot lead made bogey on the last two and wins the open championship in style has the walk up 18 with a three shot lead knowing he can't lose it. And all of Northern Ireland celebrates.

There are third different major title winner and a six major stretch or something like that, five major stretch. So you mentioned Phil earlier in the pod, you were talking about, you know, misses so many short cuts in this era, which is totally true. And I think it's actually kind of fascinating how much Phil like doesn't miss those putts now.

Like he figured out putting at some point to where like, you know, the I was thinking about the Sikia, like there's not really a short putt that he missed that you could think like, oh, like that, that was a huge like costly mistake. Like he, you know, mostly when he made bog made bogus was because he hit him in shitty spots or whatever and didn't make Apartments but like he failures to always be good for like two or three like

Four-foot like just total misses so it'll be If he had figured out putting the way he did and it's if he is there if he had puttin like he did in his 40s in his 30s He would have won two or three more majors There was so many and just the two like like the two year stretch that I was covering for this where I just saw him miss short puts that were not even close to the right speed. They're way too firm, but they're firm and low. Like he had a serious issue with short puts in this time period. He boggied, sorry, he boggied 13, 15 and 16 to finish it 200, which was three shots

back. But for a player that for even to this point, I think people aren't really even fully noticing how well Phil is doing in British Opens. Yeah. Like it was the big knock on him was that he couldn't play that style of golf. And you know, he, he sneaks up there,

sneaks up there for a long time in Opens before he finally wins one. And it still was kind of like a stunner that he finished third at in 2004, and that was his best ever finish before this T2. Mrs. The Cut in 12 and then wins it in 2013. And then Trune, and he almost wins another one in 2016, of course. Just as the evolution that I'm hoping the JT will make, I think it's the Wingsert that he will figure out,

Link's golf and start to, he's got the creative mind to do it. I'll, I'll concede that, but still needs to sort of figure it out a little bit. And then lastly for 2011, this is a harder one to cover. Horrific YouTube collection here from the P.J. of America. The only major that doesn't have anything up for their biggest championships, big win there. Who can you, can you tell me who jumped out to a first round lead? Seven under par tying a major championship record, 63,

and Round One at Atlanta Athletic Club. Oh my God. You know what, I think I do know this because part of what kicked off this pod was me. Is it Steve's tricker? It is Steve's tricker. Yeah, I would have never guessed that other than the fact that for some reason,

because the women's KVG was at Atlanta Athletic Club, I was like, huh, I haven't thought about like, when Kegan won in a while and then I was like, whoa, Steve's tricker just rose to the field in the first round. That pretty much is what contributed to us doing this podcast, but Jerry Kelly, 500 Sean McKeill, 400, Scott Verplank, 300 300 Hester leaderboard for run one last let it club in 2011.

I always talk about Jerry Kelly. Like what is he going to make? And this is totally irrelevant other than like, it's the only reason I think about Jerry Kelly, but it was like Jerry Kelly going to be able to get the John Deere flight to the British open. It's like, I don't care, man. That's like, it was back in the air when everybody had to charter a flight to make it from John Deere to the British. And I was like, yeah, this is not compelling of a storyline to me.

It's okay. Sorry, Jerry. There's too many people to keep track of. So Sean McKeill, who's in the hunt after round one, just gave him a shout out T 74. He finished in this tournament. But he finished solo second in the 2006 PGA to Tiger. And Tiger is prevented Sean McKeill from being a two time major winner, which he doesn't

get enough credit for almost winning a second major. Michael's like, yeah, like he, he, everyone again, like think of him as a one hit wonder, but he had the similar kind of way he ain't path, right? Like he was in a couple of others. It was like, you were like, wow, okay. It was his only other top 10 in a major, but, but sure, yeah, let's go with that. Let's go with the shot, Vickiel.

He's been doing up. Keegan and Duff shoot 64 and 65 respectively to tie the lead after round two. Furek, DA points, John Senet and Scott Verplank all one back. Duff and Brendan Steele are tied after three rounds. Keegan's one shot back. Sunday comes around, Brendan Steele fades very quickly, makes four early bogies, shoot 77, finishes T19 playing

in the final group. Again, almost every one of the majors during this time period has a Brendan Steele that does this in the final round of the major. Robert Carlson makes a move with an eagle on 12, putting him within a shot of the lead. Anders Hansen, birdies, 12 and 13 to get within two shots of Duff.

David Thompson makes a move. He birdies six of nine holes at one stretch. Keegan Eagles 12 to tie the lead at nine under Duff birdies, 12 and 13 takes a two shot lead. We get to 15. Keegan hits it in the green side bunker on this part three that has water to the right famous hole. David Thompson's Aston 2003.

Keegan chips it into the water, goes to drop area. Can't get it up and now makes triple. Duffner leads by five as Keegan has three holes remaining. Duff steps up on 15 and hits it in the water. But he gets it up and down for Bogey. At the same time, though, Keegan birdies 16, the lead is now three. Duff doesn't get it up and down

from a green sign bunker on 16, lead is two. Keegan birdies 17 from way downtown, while Duff is standing on 17 T. Duff three puts 17, and all of a sudden the lead is gone. They both par 18, we go to a playoff. I remember the playoff being a lot more fun than it actually was because they both stuff it on 16, Duffner to 18, sorry to eight feet,

Keegan to four and of course Duff misses the putt. Keegan makes his, Duffner to three putt 17 again. So Keegan's got a two shot lead, hits it to 18 feet in the playoff, Duff to 20, Duff makes the 20 footer to make Keegan have to two putt from 18 feet, but easily does first person to win a major championship with a belly putter Keegan Bradley easily makes it.

And yeah, just again, we know that he's Keegan Bradley now, but we did not at the time. He was a rookie on the PGA tour at that point, and that too was winning majors in 2011. The only thing that I'll say to this is it's right around this time my ex-wife was pregnant with our second kid and we were like thinking of names and stuff and funny like I'm not this much of a golf sicko but like we were throwing out around Rory is like a name for a girl.

That'd be kind of a cool name for a. Like maybe like Gilmore girls kind of maybe inspired it partially. But my mom was like, oh, I Rory is a terrible name. Like, you know, don't do that whatever week. Cause we were like, okay, we can do that. And then Keegan Bradley was like, one the PGA and we were like, huh, Keegan's a really cool name. Like, why don't we need Mark? If it's a girl Keegan. And so my second daughter is named Keegan. And so I mentioned this to Keegan Bradley once, thinking like, you know, not being like we named her after you, but like, oh, when you won the PGA, like we were thinking about naming her kid.

And we're like, Keegan's a cool name. And thinking that he'd be like, oh, wow, like that's interesting. He was like, yeah, I get that a lot. Like a lot of people do that to me. So barely, there's a lot of Keegan inspiration out there for whether it's girls or boys or what, but there's some Keegan stories out there. Everybody's there's probably pretty decent reason why we don't find ourselves rooting for that guy.

He did not think it was, yeah, wasn't a good connection for us to make. But yeah, I don't, I was dramatic, you know, I guess maybe more for bad reasons. And again, it feels a lot better that Duff wins one two years later because it was pretty heartbreaking for Duff to have not won that one. And it was a sign of things to come, honestly, on the putting of just like, whoa, dude, like that was really not close. But Duffner is like, gosh, he low key was a banger there for a little while at in, you know, in this stretch. And he is really, really unfortunately fallen off.

He was in it and whistling too. I didn't mention that, but he was hanging around. Even he was in top 10 there stuff too. So it's like, and again, ballstragors, like you didn't have to drive it out of your shoes back then to funny story. I was actually at Africa. As he says, I was at the 2010 US open for a day at Pebble Beach. And I ended up running into a buddy of mine from college who I had no idea was working in

the golf industry and had was in the agent world and was starting, was representing a player. And I was like, oh, he represent. And I was, he's like points over like, that's my guy right there. And he points over to this dude with a big lip in his mouth, belly hanging over a white belt doing this weird waggle. And it was Jason Duffner and I was like, cool man. Congratulations. That seems, that seems great. And then like sure enough, he like emerges onto the scene and I, I get super animal. Like that's my buddy's point.

Just I just remember like, look at it. Duff would be like this guy could make anything. Sure enough, he made a lot. Take us into the last year. All right, so 2012 Masters, things you might remember from this question for you before we get into this 2012 fit in this podcast, because it kind of is more of the transition year into like, things are shaping up now. Yes, I would say that 2012 is the true transition.

This is where like the big names that are now sort of relevant. I mean, you get web winning the US Open and then web kind of fell off the map for a while when the punter band happened. And so then he comes back and is a great player again. So it's a little bit of both in that sense. But Rory again, kind of like he roasts the the the Kiwa at the end of this year. And so that's a true like we were Rory when his first, I think it was like he was still like, all right, who is this guy like this is awesome. Like this is this how big of it. And then when he wins a second, it's like, okay, this is kind of evolving into the Rory era. He's a number one player in the world, you know, at this, at this point,

he doesn't science the big Nike deal after this year. Yeah. So I think, yeah, the 2012 is where we get the true transition of things. I won't go too deep into it. But, you know, again, Lee Westwood here, I mean, how many times has Lee Westwood sort of been, you know, in the mix at the Masters and not gone at Don? He comes out and shoots 67 solo first round leader. Peter Hansen, as we mentioned at the beginning of the podcast, is in this Roy McElroy again.

Also, after two rounds is only a shot back. So you're thinking like, oh, maybe Roy's already going to get his quick redemption. Maybe this course does really suit him. But I know a quick trivia question for you. Absolutely, absolutely. Top five, number of top fives in majors for Lee Westwood. What do you got?

God. I would guess, top five. I would guess, I'm gonna be realistic. I'm not gonna guess way over like Neil and DJ I always do. Yeah. I'm gonna be realistic. I'm not gonna guess way over like Neil and DJ always do. I'm gonna say six, 12. 12, you doubled it, wow. I was gonna say that 10 would have been too many. I was thinking a lot of top 10s.

No, 12 top fives and 87 majors, three runner ups, six third places. So nine top three finishes in majors for Lee Westwood. That's hard. That's, I didn't even, I didn't even say that he berg bogie three of the last four at the 2009 open championship to miss the playoff by one. I totally left that out. That's totally like, often like overlooked part of it. Like Lee Westwood could have, you know, been in that playoff with, he had a much more makeable birdie putt than Tiger. It was so not shocking that he bogey

three to last for to miss a playoff that I didn't even bother mentioning it. So again, Duffner is, you know, he's tied for lead after two runs with Fred couples. His old man Fred is still sort of hanging around in this. But the real story kind of at the last day is that Peter Hansen is after shooting a 65 on Saturday in Phil Mickelson are basically like the two kind of lead dogs here

at nine Peter Hansen leads by one, nine under par, Phil Mickelson at eight under par, Louis hanging around at seven and Bubba Watson at six under par. This is before we begin, this is the first time that we begin to understand that Bubba was be well suited to Augusta National and that maybe the last few years have shown us that left-hander's

have a distinct advantage here. At the masters. Before we sort of close out here, I just wanna to say that, if I get deep into this, the 2012 was the year that sort of Rory and Caroline's relationship began to sort of be splashed all over social media, you can sort of begin to see some of the things

that would make Rory a little bit sick of himself overexposed, like he's constantly tweeting about places. Like they're constantly, mean Carolina, constantly tweeting about places that they're going or he's like, I haven't picked her up in a while. Like at the airport, I'm so excited to see her. And a lot of gushy, like young people, sort of oversharing on Instagram. And are mostly on Twitter because Instagram doesn't really exist yet at this point. So Rory's got some old tweets out there from like what he was like

in call like basically a college aged about like Yeager Bob and stuff like that. I would be doing a whole podcast going back to the beginning of Roy's Twitter account, which would be awesome. If you somehow you get ready to join and participate, like maybe that's long golf pass, I don't know, like, but that would be kind of a really fun trip to see where to be like, what we think about this one here. Let's get some deep. So we're just going to kind of a really fun trip to be like, what do we think it on this one here? Let's get some deep. So we're just gonna kind of skip ahead to the end here of this one. Peter Hansen comes out pretty shaky, but you're thinking, okay, like Phil's gonna,

he's gonna be the dude in this. But then Louie Ustazen, who hasn't really, since his open championship win, hasn't really been much of a factor in majors. He double eagles, number two, at the Masters. And, and Faraday has the famous, come to Papa call, which there's some dispute about whether it actually happened live or whether it was on tape, and he sort of, anyway.

Um, there's a big talk about how this is the first time that a double eagle has ever been shown at the Masters on camera, and then there's all big talk about how this is the first time that a double legal has ever been shown at the masters on camera. And as all this talk about, Sarah sends double legal, but this is the first one that we sort of remember seeing pretty just incredible foreiron into the left side of that green that then trickles all the way across and ducks in the hole. Like, easily one of the most memorable kind of iconic shots of the Masters in the last 20 some years and you see it literally every single year

that's the for the- And the high five whiff is the best part though. Yeah, so it's getting to that. So just completely, I mean, almost a total whiff within his caddy. Barely, I would say the outside like palm portion of Louise hand barely nicks his caddy's thumb. That's about how close it was to a total whiff on a high five.

Never in slow motion too. It's just like, oh, God, I could picture it from a mile away. Question for you for this time period. Yes. Do we know the, and I've kind of come back around slightly on this guy. Do we know about Baba at this point? Do we not like Bubba? Do we, you know, I think we kind of like him at this point. I think I remember liking Bubba at this point. Yeah, he's, you know, very southern, very sort of, we're thinking like, genuinely shapes the ball a ton of different ways.

He's got the pink driver, like, no one, you know, he hasn't done anything. He hasn't, he's never like yelled at Teddy in public at this point. Like everyone's kind of like, oh, Baba Watson. Like he's the longest player in the game. So it's like back then, nobody was hitting it 350 like he was. You know, and so that's what when Baba came on to the scene, was like the beginning of the track man era too. So I remember like everyone was like,

God, I would love to see Bubba's track man number. So there was a lot of the talk of he's never had a lesson and his hair's wild and stuff. So yeah, like I think Bubba, everyone was kind of in on this at this moment. If unless you're like a big Ustazen fan, you didn't really mind that, you know, Bubba won this master's.

But before we kind of get to the end of it, it's really important to sort of discuss what happened with Phil Mickelson on the fourth hole of the master's. So at this point, he's got about this because of Louis double ego. Phil is, he's still a shot back, even though Peter Hansen has kind of already kind of collapsed But it's like you're kind of thinking like well Phil's won the master's like three times. He's Even here too. Yeah, you're like he's totally gonna win this master's he's he's like in control You might not be in the lead, but like he's in the driver's seat and Phil He's played pretty decent You know to start and then he decides on the fourth green that he's played pretty decent to start,

and then he decides on the fourth green that he's going to intentionally hit it into the stands left of four green. Now, I thought he was intentionally trying to hit it in the left bunker. Well, I guess it's, yeah, I'm intentionally hitting the left bunker or like if it goes in the stands like I get a drop,

like it's nothing, there's no bad things that can happen over there. Now, this is the explanation that happens kind of afterwards. They, as I watched it yesterday, you can hear him in bones talking, there's no discussion of like hit it into that bunker or like make sure you're left or whatever. Boses just like, hey, you know,

be committed to the swing, like you're, you know, you got this, blah, blah, there's you know, be committed to the swing. Like, you're, you know, you got this, but there's no like, and you get, I will say, listening to some of these, especially true at Olympic, you get to hear a lot of caddy player conversations. I don't know whether this era was sort of a little different, but there wasn't a lot of like crosstalk over, like, you know, blablae blabbing over the conversations. So you get to hear a lot of like crosstalk over the you know, blabla blabbing over the conversation So you get to hear a lot of stuff which is a lot of strategy which is neat But Phil of course just hammers it into the stands and it ricochets off of where the stands are and then goes backward

Into an area that no one really thinks about if I guess that at all like I've seen guys hit it long into the I thought Rory hit it into the What the hedges behind fourth green? Yeah, you see a lot of guys like hit it short right in that bunker. Whatever What I will say is like like feels Reasoning after was like oh, well, it's such an easy up and down from that bunker like you know It the green was just playing so hard that day like there's a lot of groups that already came through there And no one was basically like whoa can hold this green got a hit it left into the bunker and already came through there. And no one was basically like, whoa, can't hold this green. Gotta hit it left into the bunker.

Like, he was, this is filled out thinking himself. It was nobody fill into the bunker. Okay. So he'll get a chance to play out of that left bunker. So he hits it and finds it in like deep into the crap. So there's a whole like discussion between him and bones and you could tell that that Phil realizes like I've really fucked this up badly because they can't take an unplayable because an unplayable go backwards further into the woods and basically leave him with

nothing. So he gets he flips a club over and decides like he's going to hit it right handed. But there's really no way for him to swing. He's got to basically like chop down on it. Like scoop it on those. Yes, exactly. So he does this and the ball maybe goes afoot. Like it stays very much into the shit. And so now it's like Faldon and Ferdi and and in bigger Finch are like about to like melt down.

I don't know if he just mad. He just got to, it's just going back to the tee. I thought I felt the chances of getting, making hitting on the green in three from the tee much better than here. I will say with things go wrong, Fowldo is usually pretty good. Yeah. Just conveying like what a complete disaster. So Phil has to take another right-handed swing. And that's I don't know if you remember

Tura. And he does it in sort of like a cookie. Yeah. It's a club where it almost hits him. Like it almost like nicks his foot. So he manages to get it onto what is like at Augusta where it's like that weird area of like sand slash green slash walking path. All right. So he's left of the green still. He's taken three shots to get to here. So his fourth, he goes, he either pulls it or he tries to go at the pin from where he is. Instead of just like hitting it left of the pin and like trickling it down and being like, made a five, that sucks.

He tries to like make a miracle shot and hits it into the bunker. So finally, now after four shots, he is in the bunker that he intended to be in. And then, Phil being Phil, he almost chips it in from there, like extremely close, but doesn't make it and then taps in for a six. So he's gone from essentially like probably being the true leader of the tournament to being basically out of it.

I mean, he's in it sort of throughout the day, but he's so kind of deflated by what happened that he can never really quite recover. Yeah, I remember it being like Phills. Like it was Phills coronation and we were all expecting it. But again, again, what are we set of million times? In this era, whoever you thought was going to do it, probably didn't, aside from Rory running away And then Louie had the one run away. Like it really is just

this era of like, wow, really that happened, huh? I think it's an underrated Phil collapse. I don't think people talk about that much in terms of because it happens so early in the round. Right. Like oh, yeah, I don't really remember this tournament for Bubba hitting the big, you know, the wippy wedge around the on 10. You don't really remember it for Phil completely like falling apart early. How about I quiz you on Lee Westwood who had 12 top five finishes and majors. Bubba Watson top 10s and majors. Wow.

Eight. Five. Five. Okay. Five to all top fives. When, when runner up in the playoff in 2010 and then two T-Fives, his major record is pretty bad. relatively speaking, yet he's won two titles. It's it's fascinating to think about the where he emerged on the scene at Oakmont, right? Like the weekly likely place that you would think that like Bubba would have been. Right. So,

likely place that you would think that like Bubba would have been right so. So, Tiger really not a factor at all in this tournament plays really poorly but does one thing that I had totally forgotten about or even if I remembered it, CBS does not mention this and I want you to go back and watch it someday but Tiger makes a birdie on 18 to finish it five over for the tournament and looks at like at someone over in the stands and does kind of like a jerk off motion. Like with his mouth being like, whatever. Like I'm so, this is so freaking annoying, whatever.

It is kind of one of the more like untiger like things that I can remember, like tired doing like whatever. It's just like, okay. things that I can remember, like Tiger doing, like whatever. So maybe that's what, maybe that was it in response to Billy Payne. Like, oh, yeah, those shitty little tournament delightful. So a bunch of guys, you know, are sort of in it, but you know, it ultimately is just Bubba and Louis. They both have Pluts that could win the Masters on 18, but Louis hits his approach way long and has to kind of trickle it down the hill.

Nothing really have a chance. Bubba has a real chance and misses it. They play 18 and again is the playoff to start over again. And I cannot emphasize like what a good putt Louis hit on 18th playoff that should have gone in like it every single putt it was left of the hole so like if we're looking backwards at the back down on the green from like the tower he's he's left of the hole every single putt from there breaks left. His putt just stays up right above the hole. Really?

Although cannot believe it. It misses by like such a hair. Like if it's, I'm not kidding, if it's probably a quarter inch left, it catches the lip and falls in because it was like pretty good speed too. So the, the, the notes, this thing where like, Louis O'Cyzen couldn't have a lot of majors.

Oh my God. He, he has more top two finishes that majors than Rory does. Like, it's wild, man. It's seriously wild. So they go to 10 for the second playoff hole and Bubba just absolutely nukes a drive right. And to foul those credit, he calls it

like right before it happens. It's like, you know, if he doesn't turn this over and fade it around the corner it could just go miles into the trees. And it's exactly what happens. And so then what's kind of like sort of horrifying, this is where Louis sort of really kind of blew it, is he switches from driver to three wood. He's like, all right, Bob is in a world of hurt. And he blows three wood way right. And it clodders around in the trees and actually

kicks back down into like the whatever they call it or the gust of the first cut, you know, the not the rough but the secondary cut. Yeah. And but he's got like two 40 years or two 30 or something into that green. So Louis hits it down. He hits a decent shot, but it's just it's too far. It's down like it's probably like right at the front edge of the green. It's three feet shorter the green, whatever. So Bubba's got, you know, you think he's got nothing, but to the CBS, it's credit. They're like, you know, I've seen him fall though again. Like, I don't know what when Fowda started falling asleep, but the wheel, but like he's actually given some pretty good insight into this stuff. And Fowda's like, I've seen Bubba on the on the range. Like hit a big hook wedge. It goes,

you know, 50 yards in the air. He could just turn around and do that. And I was like, I've seen Bubba on the range, like hit a big hook wedge, it goes, you know, 50 yards in the air, he could just turn around and do that. And I'm thinking, I remember watching it and thinking like, there's no freaking way. I'm not gonna be able to hook, this is around the tree. He's going, and what's not just like, he clips it so, like he kind of hits down into it

so it goes high. He wasn't just like, he hit it low, kind of hooking around, like, he, man, he crushed it. And the ball was like high and spinning. And it's just like, nance can't believe it. And it's like, what a shot. That's it. That's it.

And then so that's a great dance. So they get up the green and, and Louis hits a really kind of a, the pin is way back on 10 and, that day. And Louis hits kind of a, the pin is way back on 10 in that day. And Louis hits kind of a pretty, I would say, a skanky chip that goes beyond the pin, like 10 feet, and it's like right up against the collar, but then almost makes the part, the part put there. They would have at least made Bubba, like if he wanted to win it, like have to make the burry. And then as a result, like Bubba just two butts easily for. But one thing I wanted to sort of point out here is that this is the first example I can remember of

Ricky Fowler is waiting around the green. Oh my god, greet the winner. So this starts the we're talking about the change of eras. The starts are a trick to ease. He's the first congratulator. The all the tears flow. I remember that and I remember a lot. Yeah, saying I never made it this far in my dreams, which I was a pretty good person. It's a great line. I will not make fun of that one.

So yeah, I remember too when he ran that putt by, he like calms the crowd down. Like not yet, not yet. It's like 18 inch putt. He's like, no, no, no, calm down, calm down. All right, so 2012 US Open Olympic Club, which we are familiar with because just had the women's US Open there.

Do you remember Solid Tigers position at this US Open after 36 holes? Leader, and I believe one Alan Schipnuck declared the tournament over. Tournament over. This is what I alluded to early in the beginning of the pod. Like I think we started this a week ago. Tiger, everyone kind of thought like, oh, tiger, tiger was super in control of his iron.

So I'll say it in defense. He was hitting like, you see, if you watch some, if you Google like tiger highlights, he was hitting like these sweet like stingers and like, oh yeah, it's just, he had like seemed like total control over everything. He had a side twirl going that week. It was not like the vertical club twirl. He would like get it like horizontal with a little flick of the wrist

as he went to go pick up the tee. I, there's a clip on that floats around on social media or YouTube that I see every now and then. I don't think I can ever replicate that twirl, but it was, he was, and remember that shot he hit, it's on YouTube too of, I think it's the third hole, maybe the fourth hole,

where you're hitting an up, he's had a seven iron in the first coat of the rough, and the ball is like below his feet, and everything's sloping from left to right, and he hits his low punch draw up a hill to a front left pin, like Phil Blackmark is the announcer on it, and he's like,

oh, look at this shot, what is this? Yeah, they all think he's setting up the head of faith and they're like, yeah. Punch draw is like, oh my God. Yeah. That was like, I think, part, so again, like I think if you think about like Tiger the Artist, that's a pretty big,

like you think that Olympic would sort of suit, right? Because like, you got to shape every shot. Every shot is often unhielded a lot and even lied like that would be a place that you would think it would set up well for him. Yeah. Uh, and again, evidence that golf Twitter was a different world, uh, looked up shipnux tournament over Tweet and it had no replies to it, uh, and only 14 retweets. Uh. I don't know. It's possible that Twitter change their deal

so that the replies weren't attached to it. Yeah, that might, I think, Twitter, the replies weren't always attached to stuff back in the day. That makes sense, actually. But I will say, just like one like and 14 retweets. So that stuff has remained. Like that's, it just wasn't quite the same amount of interaction.

If you tweeted that now, it just wasn't quite the same amount of interaction. Like if you tweeted that now, like, turn it over after you're roaring it would be a shitshow. You would both get people that were, it was over yesterday. And also, how could you declare it's over? So a couple of amateurs, future US Open champions make their debut, US Open debut. And this do you remember who, could you tell me who those were? Amateur champions that make their debut, US Open debut. And this do you remember who, though, could you tell me who those were? Amateur champions that made their debut.

Well, so amateur, future US Open champions who made their US Open debut as amateurs in this championship. Gotcha. I know John Peterson makes a run, but I know he's the future US Open champion. No, I don't. This is the first time we see Jordan's beef. And Brooks Keppka both make their debut

in the US Open as amateurs here. Keppka misses the cut, go in plus 14 after two rounds, but Jordan's beef makes the cut and finishes tied for 21st. Do not, I have no recollection of that. Speeds not a great US Open player, I would say, has only really had three, I would say good US Open's, but one of them is this, which is finishes T21.

It finishes like T16, they think, maybe that's an Aaron Hills, and then obviously won at Chambers. So like of all the speed US Open's, like this is among like the top 30%. Kind of interesting. You can see him in the, he's actually there when Webb is about to get the trophy

before Bergman makes an emergency speed. He's the whole. Really? Do you remember though, there was another amateur who did much better in this tournament. Do you remember who that was? Oh, Hossler. I remember that.

Yeah, so BoHossers in it, like, you know, that? Oh, Hossler. I remember that. Yeah, so Bohusers ain't it. Like, you know, like, series actually contending for this open a lot. But if you were sort of into social media back then, you might remember that there was something else about Bohusler that people remember from this term. Did he have braces or did he? I don't remember. He had a really hot mom.

Oh my God, I forgot about this. Oh, boh-hossler's mom, Amy. Very cute woman, you know, just in her 40s or whatever. Shout out to women in their 40s, they're absolutely gorgeous. I'm about to marry one. But boh-hossler's mom is like the the talk of Twitter and like the big lead is writing a stories about her and like a lot of jokes about how Tiger may not go home with a trophy, but he's going, oh my god.

Oh my god. Oh Hauser's mom. Like a very, very funny content. Like to me in some ways like an evolution of like, hey, golf putters are a place where we just basically make very stupid jokes that are very inappropriate. So, I see it bleach your report. It's all over there.

Oh gosh. Not gonna lie, went to BoHoster's Instagram today, saw a pick of his mom, still hot. No, shot. Shout out to Amy Mabals of, I believe her name is. Do you know who Blake Adams is, sorry, have you ever heard of him? I do remember the name, yes.

Okay, Blake Adams was two shots off the lead going into the fall round of Olympic. I don't remember that, that's for sure. Blake Adams played in two major championships in his life. He finished T21, this one, and T7. How about that? Like, you've only ever played in two majors and you've finished top 25 in both. What was the T7? I believe that? It's only ever pulled in two majors and you finished top 25 in both.

What was the T7? I believe it was a PGA. Interesting. I can look that up while you go. Yeah, so I did not remember Blake Adams at all. So this is the Furek, you know, is really sort of the guy who everyone expects to win. This is kind of the the pinnacle of him, like driving it straight, hitting great iron shots. Also, since we've touched on fashion, this is where Fierrick is wearing the five-hour energy hat. Very straight and led to a lot of jokes afterwards that maybe it should have been a four and a half hour

energy hat because he sort of ran out of gas near the end. What you probably remember most from this use open the final round other than the Birdman is that Fira kits a such skanky like snappy hook on 16 and they had actually move the tease up 100 yards on Sunday, which I surprise like other than the weird shit they were doing at Chambers, like I can't remember a hole where they moved up 100 yards. Well, and it's that's the

hole where you need to hit like a snap. You need to hit a snap hook when you move that tee up that far. Whereas in the head and he hadn't hit that shot in a practice round or something like that. I will say this era, if you watch a lot of the golf, a lot easier to hit snap hooks back in the days. You know, the clubs now, like, a lot of the reason the guys hit like bomb fades is because that's an easier shot to hit. It's harder to turn the ball over with the newer clubs. Back then, if you're trying to hit a draw and you got a little bit ahead of it with your roll and your hands a little bit much, Tiger hit in the Pebble Beach open one of the

nastiest snap hooks that I think I've ever seen him hit. Into six-foot deep hay and somehow made a freaking par out of it. So that was kind of where Furek sort of started to sort of unravel a little bit. Web Simpson just kind of like super steady, like made a bunch of birdies, not a bunch, but made several birdies to he came, he started the day, like I believe he was bored and for behind, like not, you know, was not a guy who was really, yeah, for down, for down start the day, was not someone that anyone thought like,

oh, yeah, he's gonna go out and tear it up, was tied. I think he was like T28 after round two or something like that. He was like, one of the dudes is like the poster boys for like how far back is too far back? Like, don't go, you can go pretty far down the list. Started 72, 73, just, you know, was not even, and the lead was one under. So it was like, boy, you know, he started to just get hot

with like, this is again, like another guy, after Keegan, first guy ever to win with the anchored putter, like Webb was sort of like, you know, another sort of resounding, like, oh, this might be an advantage, this might be a way to, you know, to do all this. Also, Ernie L's, really, like,

if you think about like the, like, Fierriken L's kind of the two legends in this, both of them could have won this US Open. Not great putting from Ernie down the stretch. Like, start of the stretch of, you know, Ernie's, he's gonna win, you know, a major this year, spoiler, but it's still like he's, he's been in the wilderness for a while. He's hitting it really good with his irons. So you're starting to be like, oh, maybe Ernie's back, but just doesn't pot well enough. We westwood once again, same deal. Well, on that Jim Fierrick top fives. And I don't even have to look this up. I know this

one. Top fives and majors for Jim Fierrick. Seven. Sixteen. Sixteen. Sixteen. Top fives. Yeah, just a wildly what if career as well. Yeah, did not see that. Four runner up, three US open runner ups too. I mean, he and Phil are two of the great like, honestly like US open players of this era and the fact that they have won US open between them is kind of like, it's wild.

We have gets up and down on 18 from a really like a It's kind of like, it's wild, like, wow. We have Gets Up and Down on 18 from a really, like a weird old drain that, like, there's a lot of controversy about why this one area next to the green was like all browned out in a perfect circle, but they told them he couldn't get relief from it. So he has to kind of, like, hit like a really a classy little chunk and run that gets

across the green and he makes the putt to get in. And then Grammack Dowl hits honestly plays 18 really well. Grammack Dowl made a steely birdie on 17 to get within a shot. Hit it in the fairway on 18, not easy to do. And then hits a great shot. Has the Lexi Thompson putt from behind the pin down the hill and really just did not hit a very good putt. Like for some reason,

did thought that it was gonna break away from the lake. Very, very unclear what kind of read he was getting there, but really didn't give himself a chance on the putt. And then we come to the infamous Birdman, right as Bob Cosses is interviewing Webb, talking about what a see the thing. In the corner of the shot, the Birdman appears like he was smart enough to figure out a way to get into the shot and and gives us a

Right before Mike Davis Not yet serving as a USG president, but as like the VB's yanks their Birdman off the stage and to Webb's credit He delivers a pretty good line in the moment. Enjoy the jail cell pal like I think of a lot of dudes in that moment would have not been able to think of something Quite so clever Bob Costa says something like always something So that was lame and then web yeah, I enjoyed the jail cell pal. We cool the way that he handled it. But again, like of GMAC, who won the US Open

2 years prior, Furek, who's leading most of the day, all these names up there, Web Simpson's the guy that ends up winning it. And Web had was a good player on tour for several years before this. But again, it's just like, really, that is not what I had brewed up on this day. But you know, Web would sort of, it would be a long time again before Web would be, would finish top 10 in a major. Do you know how long? I can't even think of some of Augusta one that he ever top 10. So he did, but in 2019, he finished top 10 of the US open in 2018. So six years, he went without like really ever

being close to contending. Like a lot of, a lot of Miss Cuts, a lot of T64, T46, T40, T54s, like seemed very much like a total, like fluke until, you know, in the last two years alone, he's finished, he's at a top 10 in the major and at top 12, like four times. So yeah, pretty, pretty good to see what figured it out. And one of the players as well. So the next major websites to skip the major and not even go to the British Open, the first

time this has happened in like 50 years because his wife is pregnant. And he says, I think I'm gonna have a lot of kids, but this is my first one or whatever. And I know I'm gonna get a, I can play in British Open's anytime, but I don't, I'm wanna be there for my birthday my kid. So, correct prediction, because he has,

I believe five kids now. So, we don't have a US Open winner in the field, but no one really cares. Tiger once again goes full-tannibal. Open around. This surprised me, did not remember that there was multiple tannables in this era. He shot 67.

So I don't remember that. Yeah, 66 with the tannable in the US Open and 67 in the British Open of Tannimal. So Tiger, if you're listening, more Tannimals. So Adam Scott, of course, just starts out kind of blitzing everyone 64 to be the sort of first round leader. Follows it up with a 67 and a 68. So there's 200 bunkers at St. Anne's and he is navigating them sort of brilliantly. He's got the big broom putter.

This isn't even like the chest anchor putter. This is like, you know, the five foot tall broom putter that he's pressed into his chest. Just a fashion check-in. At one point, Adam is wearing a very nice gray pullover sweater, but it has brown, black, and gray elbow patches. He's a tenured history professor. It's quite fair. Tiger is in it. He's not doing outstanding just because Adam is such a commanding lead.

It would become more relevant when Adam starts collapsing. But on the last day, Tiger makes a triple bogey. I don't know if you remember this, but he hit it into like a pop bunker on the sixth hole. And instead of like tripping backwards or chipping sideways, he tries to like basically hit it like straight vertical in the air and then has to like dodge out of the way as it comes blasting back off the face and almost hits him, makes a triple bogey and is basically not at all.

Ernie else is like in the final round is there, but no one until about the back nine, no one even really thinks about him because Adams like cruising, Ernie's kind of stall, he's not doing anything, but then Ernie Bernie's for the last nine holes to basically post a number and Adam is slowly leaking oil as this happens and as Ells makes his final birdie on 18,

Adam the lead has fallen to one, he just is just kind of missing. It's not like a horrendous choke. He just makes four-strike bogeys where if one of the shots would end up sort of, you know, staying on the green, he probably wins this open championship. But as you often talk about like at A and A and A and all of the areas around the greens are mowed down really tight until there is then like thick stuff away from the green. So the ball, instead of like holding up right at the green and like leaving you with easy chip,

runs away from the green and then gets into more like thick stuff trouble and Adam has a tough time like getting out of it. Ultimately, it comes down to, Adam needs to make a par to get into a playoff with Ernie L's chooses to hit three wood off 18 T and finds the left pop bunker and has to like to even have a chance to get up and down from like 160 yards has to stand in the bunker with one foot like almost vertical on the wall and chip out sideways.

It's a great shot into 18, like thinks like, okay, I got this. I'm going to make this but it's nowhere close. I remember thinking he was going to make that putt. I really did. Fowl though says Adam Scott is going to be scarred for life for this. It's it all watching. I feel like I've gone back and watched that. And I remember that all of the bogeys he was making It was all very believable like it was not it wasn't like

Dude you have these easy ass holes right in front of you don't screw it up It was just like dude like yeah, that's not easy and like you can make a little mistake here That's probably gonna be bogey a little mistake there. That's probably gonna be bogey eight teams a tough one That's not that difficult of a hole, but you still got to thread the fairway. You got to hit the fairway. And he's probably thinking I need to make Bernie to win the tournament here. And it just was, it was so painful

because it was like, yeah, this could happen. And it did, this could happen. And it did, this could happen. And it did. It wasn't like a big stomach punch. It wasn't, it was just a slow, slow bleed that was truly difficult to watch. But I just, I don't remember thinking it just a slow, slow bleed that was truly difficult to watch.

But I just, I don't remember thinking it was a choke. I don't know if you felt that watching it, rewatching it, it just felt like, man, everything just didn't work out very good for four straight holes. I was really rooting for Adam Scott, because he's such a nice dude. And so I remember like trying to talk myself into that maybe, you know, maybe it wasn't a choke because things, you maybe got some it wasn't a choke, because things, you maybe got some bad bounces, things can go as way. It seemed like the one on 17,

he just kind of flew an iron like maybe four yards long and it of course it hit the slope and went down into like a really shitty thick, thick, thick stuff. I don't know, I mean, if you got to make one part to win the British Open of Four Holes, and you, like, it's hard to argue that's not a joke, but like it, it wasn't like nerve, I'll say what it was, it wasn't like nervy swings. Like he was making some good contact and stuff. It wasn't like he was, it wasn't like Peter Hanson. I think we missed talking about this, but

hit a, hit a shank on 12 at Augusta that didn't make the water. There was nothing like that. It was just things where any of us never been a great putter. So that kind of reared its head with things. I will say credit to any else. They go in and they talk to him. And the first thing he says is I just really feel for Adam.

He's a really good friend of mine. He's such a good person. And that's the nature of the beast. Maybe it was my time this time, whatever, but it's a moment to be like, I'd want to reach out and acknowledge that. But wasn't this the year or shortly after this, where Ernie had the seven putt at Augusta,

like had the full yips, I forget when that was. That might have been later, but it's later. That was Ernie was struggling with putting to that point, even at big time. And it was kind of... Seven putt at Augusta was, I think, the first year I was there, was Ernie was struggling with putting to that point even Yes, big time and it was good Seven hundred Augusta was a I think the first year I was there which was 2017 So it's we're still a way strong with seven putt But he putting was not like Ernie Connacott lightning in a bottle for putting for one day on this

That's it. You know it was 2016 at the seven putt So I was not even remotely not even remotely close This is in the midst of So Gar Darren Clark won it last year, Ernie L's wins a this year in Phil Mix and the obviously wins the next year. It's three straight majors at the open championship with guys in their 40s, like 40s. So the Chauzy link sculf is a little bit of a different piece. 40th ranks player like the the OWDR of the four major winners in the in the time period we're covering Stewart sink was 33rd Louisus

He's in 54th there in Clark 111th Ernie L's 40th No prop 30 players won the British open for a four-year period. Well So now we come to the final sort of era. I think as we've sort of said like the the true transition into the Rory era He's gonna win two more majors after this, but this is sort of said, like the true transition into the Rory era, he's gonna win two more majors after this, but this is sort of even more so I feel like thing congressional, like backing up that you could win the PGA by eight strokes was a huge thing. And what everyone thought was like

one of the toughest courses on Earth. And could you tell me though, who the first round leader of the 2012 PGHA championship was? Is it Blake Adams? It is not Blake Adams. It is Carl Patterson. Mmm.

Glitch Bankake is our friends at the shotgun start. Did not remember that, but Carl Patterson came out and shot. I want to say I don't have it in front of me, but I want to say it's like six under to start to around. I'll give that typifies the era though still. Even though we get the Rory win, Carl Patterson round one leader that speaks to this era, I think. That's not, I don't mean that in a disparaging way about Carl Patterson, it just speaks to the era. If I told you that a golfer named Gonzalo was shot off the lead in the first round Could you be able to finish what his name is? I would have said for Fernando

Gosh, no, I couldn't because I can't even piece that name together right now. Gonzalo Fernandez Costano. You're you're mostly I can tell them okay. I had the order of the Dave's good Wrong on that one, but it's three We're three hours into this man. I my braids numb Who is the second round leader at the PGA championship? The second round leader was of course David Lynn Tiger was what the second round leader., another sort of forgotten thing about this era is that Tiger was in a lot of of these majors and he just couldn't really figure out how to close and

this would be sort of a theme for a while like that you know Tiger was not uh could not sort of just seal the deal like he he, you know, he faded, I think he shot 74 on, yep, on Saturday. So he, it's a wild sort of a truth today. We started out, 69-71 was four under. He, Vijayan Karl-Peterson, we're all tied for the lead after two rounds. And everyone thought that like it was gonna be sort of a dual,

he and Rory, it was like the sort of the true kind of like generational dual that Nike execs always kind of dreamed of and it wasn't even like. Well, Rory's not Nike just yet, but they're still there. That's right. He's ready to start dreaming about this. Oh, yes. I believe Rory finished like 10 strokes ahead of 12 11 strokes ahead of Tiger throughout the rest of the deal. Like Adams did make another appearance here. I think we talked about that another person

I had not heard of was the finished two majors and this was his sort of his T7 in the end of finishing. Conditions in the second round were so windy and blustery that scores were insane. The average, can you guess with the average around the average score in the second round? 76.1, not close. 78.1. Jesus. Yeah. Paul Casey shot 85. Ryan Palmer shot 86. Two club pros shot 90 and 93.

It was a blood bath. I'm like, what did Roy shoot? 74, I believe. Wow. Yeah. So he had a rough go of it, but he, 75. He, but he hung around. He made like a crazy up and down that was sort of like helped him sort of steady himself.

And then he came out the next day in shot 67. So it was like, but it was the fact that like he had a, he finished 13 under and had a 75 in the mid-middle of pretty nuts, right? Because they finished the weather was an issue, right? Then they play a lot more golf on Sunday that that's a finish round three on Sunday. Yes Tiger faded pretty hard in third round. He his 74 was tied for the worst round of anybody in the top 10 so another sort of example of the Tiger Meg every putt that ever mattered like not really. So Sunday was kind of really not

all that much of a contest, but somebody came out and birdied six in the first seven holes. You know that one. Six of the first Ian Polter. Ian Polter. Yes. A long time friend of the pub. Ian Polter. I'm not cheating by the way. That's that's just a straight guess. Well done. And your your boy David Lynn, if that David Lynn, right? That's a he actually finished second in this tournament. I knew see I knew that and then he didn't no longer play professional golf. Because that was a story that was revisited with Keel going back to Keel. I remember seeing that. Keel Bradley, Karl Puddersen, Polter and Rose finished nine shots

back of Rory and tied for third place. Yeah, so changing the guard, everyone sort of thinks like, this is the new era. And I think a golf podcast we're just about to be born, you know? That's pretty much right. That, we started the Twitter account in February of 2013. So that was truly all the, all the, the, the, the post tiger majors that, you know, we were not around for and not, not starting to cover. So yeah, I don't know if,

I don't know if I have an enormous takeaway other than like I felt, I feel, I did feel like it's, it's interesting to dive into this era of golf as, you know, kind of such a weird, you see so much stuff pop up. There was still so much money being given out by these tours at this point. And the talent was, it had not really, it hadn't risen to the top at that point. Comparing, you know, the OWGR and that time period to now, it's, you know. It's a totally, totally different ball game. And it was just a weird, weird stretch of major winners. Almost all of those major winners for first time major winners.

Like, I know Ernie wasn't, but I saw some stat. I should have shouted it down in terms of, yeah, Rory, of course, is not, by the time he wins the second one in this era, that's not his first major, but Ernie was a first time winner. And I think literally all the rest of them on hell was a second time. But almost everyone I guess feel that's a bad stat. Anyways, a lot of first time major winners in this time period. It's a decent point. You're right. They're it may not hold up to all of them, but like a there's nine in a row at one point. Graham,

Louis Ustaz and Kymar, Schwartz, all Rory, Clark, Keegan, Bubba and Webb, winning consecutively was all first time winners. So anyways, well, we're more interested in others. I hope people stuck around and enjoyed it for three hours. I certainly enjoyed researching it and I find it made it makes it makes me feel like my time spent watching those old USDA films and stuff was worthwhile because there's some goodies in there. Go back and watch 09, US Open if you can, because that was just to see where Ricky Barnes ends up, because it's honest and comical. And go back and watch the tiger making the jerk off motion. Hopefully I'm right and he is making that to Billy Payne.

So I will go find that as soon as we hang up. So KVV, I did not know I was asking you for three hour podcasts. Will be when I asked you to do this. I should have known that. That's on me. But thanks for the time preparing and the time spent revisiting a weird time in golf history. I hope people find this as interesting as we did.

Absolutely. I'm sure there's a few sickos that. You know, all three of you that reached the end of this podcast got busted. Cheers buddy, thanks. Cheers. Let's give it a right club. Be the right club today. That's better than most. How about in? That is better than most. Better than most.