No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 453: Scottish Open/John Deere Recap

Episode Date: July 12, 2021

A busy week in golf, as we discuss Min Woo Lee's win at the Scottish Open, why the The Renaissance Club hosts this event, the future of the event, Rory's security incident, Rahm, and everything else from Scotland. We also chat about Lucas Glover's win at the John Deere, #Chezfest, Furyk at the U.S. Senior Open, The Match, Bryson's caddie situation, and a lot more.  The referenced article on the Scottish Open from UK Golf Guy: https://www.ukgolfguy.com/golf-blog/scottish-open-future Jane Park's GoFundMe: https://gofund.me/ad43c4ed Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. I'm not in. That is better than most. Better than most. here. We are live with the boys DJ Pi and TC are in the kill house. Hello boys. Hello greetings. Great to be here. Great to see DJ. He's been he's been just outside Chicago for for seemingly months. Extended period. Extended period. Glad to be back in Jacksonville. Glad to have a window into your guy. I know the viewers are the listeners of course can't can't see it but great to have

a window into the hotel room always curious about that. You know, big guy or little hotel room hard to tell. Now you're asking the right questions. It's got a very, very distinct smell as is what I can report here from Toledo. Me or the hotel room. Both. We have a ton to talk about. We got the John Deere Classic, we got the Scottish Open, we got a little US senior open, of course got the LPGA. Of course, we got the American Century Championship, Corn Ferry Tourism, a playoff right now. By the time we get to the US senior open, I believe Jim Furek will have it one. Over in Scotland, Min Wou Lee earned his second career

European Tour victory at the Scottish Open, the Aberdeen. How do you pronounce it now without the vowels open the the Aberdeen. I don't know how you how you pronounce it now without the the vowels in the name, but he had a a bag full of Callaway and Odyssey equipment, which we'll get to in a minute. He made six birdies in a row in the front nine, then amidst some weather stoppages, it through the rest of the day, added a seventh on the back nine made his eighth birdie. The most critical time on the first playoff haul after a huge drive and approach that he stuffed inside 10 feet in his bag, which resembles John Romes bag, if I may say, who also finished two shots back and seems mega primed for St. George's.

An epic speed driver, nine degrees, an epic speed three wood apex TCB irons, a full suite of jaws wedges, chrome soft X golf ball, and the same putter that fellow, Ossie Mark Leachman uses an Odyssey White Hot OG number one. If you want a deep dive into the specs, check out a detailed What's in the Bag Post on the world of wonder section of Calaways website. That's calwaygolf.com slash wow, w o w again, that's calwaygolf.com slash wow. I think we start there.

Scott is open. That seems to be the premiere event of the week. It sounds like you boys enjoyed viewing it this week. I did. I caught some of it Thursday, Friday, and then a lot of it today. Yeah, Minwoo just, he played so freaking well. I mean, the second shot in on that playoff was great. Not my favorite course. I think it's kind of a waste that they play this Scottish Open on a non-links course, same with Irish open this year. Really good leaderboard, probably a little bit too bunched for some people's taste, but you know, I think it's it was a nice

prelude to a major championship next week. Yeah, I had a blast watching. I was just saying before we came on part of it, you know, I was driving back from Illinois, so part of it could have been my wife was driving, I should say. I was not wide. I don't like the Scottish oven quite that much, but it was maybe because I was driving through, you know, South Georgia, not the most beautiful part of our great nation, but I had a blast watching it. I mean, it's, it's, you're right. Of course, it's not all the things that we love about Lynx Golf. I'm sure there are things here and there that could be a little bit better, but it's been a really long time

since we've gotten to watch some proper golf in that part of the world. I know we had the Irish Open last week, but it feels like we're kind of slowly building to which should be an awesome week this week. And yeah, the Renaissance, we've seen it a couple of times now, but it still tickled the red spots, right?

I think it might be more of a like a Carolingian Renaissance instead of the main Renaissance. Of course. Yeah. No, it was the battle of Chicago there in the playoffs too. It was brutal. Brutal lost. You know, Thomas D.T. versus Matt Fitzpatrick and both of them lost.

I know. The state of Illinois lost. Brutal. See, I'm glad you guys loved it. I really am. I'm super thrilled. I don't feel I didn't feel like I was watching Link's Golf. I know they got rain and I know they didn't get wind. That's important. But I feel like like the truest links don't get affected that much by rain, right? Like the ball doesn't just stop in its tracks on like

real Link's golf courses, even if it's raining, you know? We just said it. Yeah. it's not a link school. Yeah. I know, but you guys are talking about it's nice to like see some links is golf and it's like I just didn't get that. It felt like a putting contest to me and it's it's there's a great, great post on the it's a UK golf guy.com. He made a just a super deep dive into the rotation of courses or the

not the lack there of rotation of courses at the Scottish Open. And I was kind of like, yeah, you can draw a direct line. These three things. Like huge personal and PGA tour created the Rolex series on the European tour to compete with it. Big sponsors come, you know, big money comes with that. So you need courses and sponsors to put a big money and you need a lot of infrastructure. And so you end up at a golf course that can, you can host it. And that's how you end up at Renee Sans. His post details a much more complicated picture of like how it's just not that easy to go visit links, golf courses with these tournaments and how it's just not realistic. And we're probably going to be seeing Renee, a lot of

Renee Sans into the future. I think that's an awesome point. And I assume very well said by him because it's well said by you and makes a ton of sense. And I think the only counter I would make is, you know, put all those same problems in America and we get the Memphis event and we get Akron and we get, you know, those WGCs that we, we suffer a long time and that golf, like really sucks to watch. So if, if we're going to have those problems, at least having them in Scotland, seems like a step in the right direction. It still looks, I mean, it's like right next door

to Murafield, it's good. No, see that's what I hate. See, no, no, that's where you're losing me. Because it's like, this is the one thing we kind of had or the hope we had. If it's all going to start looking like, you know, Stadia PGA tour golf, which again, if they get some weather, they get some wind.

It's maybe a different picture. But just like to see it, you know, the answer be money. When we always know the answer is almost always money, it just makes me lose a little bit, dial a little bit inside. I'm not, I don't like the golf course. I just don't love it. Quit defending it, John.

Turn on it. Like, it was a very good leader board at the end there. Yeah, great field. I think at some point, it just seems like at some point, like, like, are they really hosting that many spectators on site at these Euroator events? Or it's like, why do they need the build out in the infrastructure if it's kind of a worldwide TV product,

right? Well, I think a lot of that is, you know, just infrastructure needed for television, one and two, like the players stay on site at Renaissance, which is a huge perk for them. And not all of these villages in Scotland have, you know, a ton of hotel space for clients that come in, TV media that come in, players that come in, caddies that come in, what all this stuff. And it bleeds in a lot of different ways. And I

think the rumor circulating that it may be a FedEx cup event next year, or a FedEx cup playoff, not playoff event, but it might have FedEx Cup points next year to be a PGA tour alliance, co-sanction, whatever event could only strengthen the field. Which I think is a great thing. I'd rather watch the Scottish Open at Renaissance than a lot of the golf courses that PGA tour go all of them, all of them, that they go to in the summer, basically. So I think that's, you know, me and T.C.'s closing argument there. It's like, it's better than what we've been watching. It's better than what we have it. I do, would have been better if it was at Galen. If it was at, you know, me and T.C.'s closing argument there. It's like, it's better than what we've been watching. It's better than what we have it. I do would have been better if it was at Galen.

If it was at, you know, one of those places kind of down the road, of course, but it wasn't. And is it, is it really still a step in there? It was still a step better than what we've been watching for the past 18 months. Is it, is it realistic to have it a castle steward? Probably not. Like, that's a tough spot to have something and shuttle people over from, from inverness, but you know, but at the end of the day It's Scotland the home of golf like Figure it out

Bottom line. Ireland needs to figure it out too. Ireland is a much more of a disgrace in this department. I think Well, rumor has it that Ireland might be going after the open next year. So you have a Scottish Open sorry UK British open, and then the Irish, which could potentially help the field, could potentially, you know, I think gosh, I really help they end up somewhere links. But yeah, Mount Julie, that was a disgrace. I mean, that's not, that's not, and again, this always,

of course, comes from a place of like loving that style of golf on that side of the world more than any other thing that I love in golf, any one single thing, that's where the frustration comes from. And if it sounds like bitching, it's really coming from a place of passion, if you will. I mean, I'll also say like on the Euro tour, I just like it because it just looks like such a different broadcast. I enjoy that's a big thing for me. I enjoy watching it because it's just, and then it was that was laid bare today. Oh no.

What screen with the, I'm sure John Deere, we'll get into that. But I had this was my top note for the week. I almost forgot to mention it, but the difference between the announcers, go and roll and write into the PXG commercials was one of the things of all time, just get like you know here we see Lucas Herbert is trying to go back to back weeks we'll see if you can do it after the break if

you don't play our fucking shit PXG I almost like startled my wife, drove off the road. It would have been very jarring. But I love the presentation of it, kind of the minimalism of it. It's just a better TV product and it's so much less cluttered. And like I would, you know, I watched the Euro Tour when they're in Cyprus when I can. Or when they're in the Canary Islands.

Yeah, great. Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, there's just like like the golf course, sometimes like the weirder, the better, right? Like that DLF one and it's not in DL. To your point, I think that answers a lot of like, it is possible to do to broadcast golf in a way that is like appreciated, right? You know, it's not, yeah, we don't have to hamster to hand it up, but another big incident that happened, it's skydish open this week. I believe this was Friday. Rory McRoy is getting ready to tee off

with same pairing as John Rom and a fan of some kind comes under the ropes, goes and reaches into Rory's bag, tries to pull out his driver, driver fails gets the head cover and Pulls out a wedge of some kind to the stunt like just the just general Amazement of everyone standing on the t-box before they realize it is not a prank. It is a very real Kind of disturbing thing that happened Randy. What's your what's your initial reaction to what we saw? Everybody's a threat bottom line. I don't know what else you can say about it. I think there were a lot of good takes that I read about it on Twitter and elsewhere. It's both...

I think there are some funny things about it. And then... I mean, you have to start with that. Objectively. Very funny. Exactly. If you want to go into the hypotheticals and, you know, it could have been a lot worse. Yes, of course. So I think it's truly a, it's a glass half full glass half empty. I don't know, just a weird thing. Adam Fonsnika at Golf on Filter tweeted out a great video, like a, the prolonged video of it. Yeah, it was a lot more creepy than it looked just in the in the quick highlight that they showed. I had a friend of mine, Matt Waxman message me and said, you know, if you like if you just put a laugh track on this video, it's the funniest video

of golf and watching it again with that lens, like it yeah, that's that's a pretty good point. Braden C123 asked, as it pertains to the Rory incident with spectators, should the PGA slash European tour do more to protect the players? These players are worth hundreds of millions of dollars and people can get, get close to them with seeming, seemingly relative ease. Do you think anything comes of this? I mean, I think they're, this is where I don't have a great understanding, but I mean, all of you guys know being at events like when you're following a marquee premiere player,

like they almost always have like a personal security guy with them. And I don't know where the laps was in this one and why it took so long for someone to get that guy out of there or what was going on, but it did feel a little, it feel out of the ordinary and I, you know, it's all you might have said this on Slack or something this week. Like, it might be a COVID thing. Maybe there's just less people around. Like, I don't know what's going on. But it, it, usually I would think this was a bit of an outlier. The ribs always got that one body guy that's there with them. Yeah. I think most of these guys have pretty good protection. It just, uh,

you have was a weird one that this, I think it was just kind of the, uh, abd don't like the normality of it, right? If the guy just like, it was a true, uh, you have was a weird one that this, I think it was just kind of the, uh, abd don't like the normality of it, right? If the guy just like, it was a true, like, just act like you're supposed to be there, uh, sort of situation. Because there's Darrell survey guys that go up to players bags and, you know, count, you know, looking their bag and jot down what clubs are using and stuff like that. So it's, and you know, there's equipment reps and things looking in players bags. They wouldn't do that on the first tee.

Uh, but no one looked like had a, had any kind of real reaction to somebody taking a and there's equipment reps and things looking in players bags. They wouldn't do that on the first tee, but no one looked like had any kind of real reaction to somebody taking a club out of his bag. And I, my initial reaction was like, man, that's a kind of tough look for Harry. Steve Williams would have just bashed that guy's brain in, but honestly, looking back at it, like taking an extremely slow approach to it

was probably the right move, because you had no idea what you're dealing with at that point, back at it, like taking an extremely slow approach to it was probably the right move because you had no idea what you're dealing with at that point and the guy has a club in his hand now. And truly anything could have happened at that point. And I think it's just a wake-up call of some kind, which I think is probably going to ultimately end with just volunteers yawning at people, you know, media people that are inside the ropes and you're like, hey, where's your credential? That's probably going to be like the big fallout. The real losers in this.

Yes, but gosh, it was a, I don't know, a very uncut. Am I conspiracy theory hat here of like, all right, we have the Euro Tour who they did the fake pundit thing this week on Twitter. They've done the awkward reporter, European tours pulling pranks all the time. Do they get went through their heads of like, quickly like, hey, am I getting pranked right here?

Like, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna go run and get in the way here because I might look really silly if I'm getting pranked right now. Well, I think they said that in the quotes, right? It was one of the newspapers had had a couple quotes from the guys that were like, yeah, you know, once, it took us a while to realize like it wasn't a prank

and once we realized it wasn't a prank, then, you know, we were trying to figure out what to do. And yeah, I think that's probably exactly right. Which, watching the pundit one this week, how about Stenson just calling it out? Oh my God, you cannot prank Stenson. It's nothing at all. I will put you up this didn't it. Do not try to prank Stenson.

I love the video. I needed them to unveil it. It'd be more reaction from people like, you know, that's the big payoff, right? Is what's the real as they got pond? Maybe some people actually flipped out when they showed that. Here's a question for you that I don't know the answer to, but was there a, what was the sentiment from the British or European side of the pond in response to what happened with Rory. Because I feel like, I feel like as Americans, we,

I don't know, we just have such a guard up these days, right? And I don't know, like had that happen in the US, is it any different? I guess this is my question, is it that it occurred over there? Like, is it? Would you feel more nervous if something like that happened and like, I don't know, Memphis or the Quad Cities this week?

I guess it wasn't, none of us were really disturbed when a guy went out with golf clubs and balls into the 13th fairway at Torrey Pines and hit two shots. I think we universally celebrated that. I think it's because like if it's an American crowd doing it, you assume drunken, tumfulery and just, like, you know, attention seeking, whereas this, this felt, I still don't know the whole story behind the guy or what happened, but it just felt really off, like, you know, to the point of

it, I'd like to know more about that situation. And it just didn't didn't seem funny. I don't like like you said theory like funny, but watching it I wasn't like, oh my God, that's hilarious. Like it was just it was awkward as hell. Yeah, it's just a big time reminder, like for better or worse, of just how completely exposed those guys are. And in a way that, you know that no other sport puts their athletes.

And that's not, I mean, that's just kind of how it's always been in golf. It's just weird. We don't have a stadium, don't really have a defined field. It's just kind of the way it goes. And yeah, if you wanted to get really kind of cynical and depressing, it's kind of easy to go down that road of thinking like, well, I wonder how much longer that's gonna last before someone does something really stupid

and then you can't just separate the crowd with one piece of twine. I'm trying to scroll through my guys, Huggin, Donnie. But the heavy hitters, that's what I wanna know. Truth tellers. Yeah, there's not a whole lot on Twitter. I need to parse through their columns on it. But. Which, if it was an American that would have done it, you know they not a lot on Twitter. I need to parse through their columns on it. But-

Which if it was an American that would have done it, you know they would have flipped out about that. But I go back to the 2016 Ryder Cup where KVV said this on our Ryder Cup recap pod, kind of just feeling like the angst in that crowd, again, that's a totally different situation than what we're talking about here. But the angst in that crowd was very real.

The things they were yelling at the European players was uncomfortable. And he just made this point of like, you know, people were in Rory's face walking between holes. You know, somebody to Rory. And like, he just made the point of like in golf, like you, the only thing that's preventing somebody from punching a player is this like social construct that like you shouldn't do that, right? Like you can't like, but there is no physical, you know, barrier for stopping anyone from just going out and punching. And that's, I guess, this is a threat.

Technically the same in the NBA and whatnot, but like, the players are vulnerable and like the only thing preventing it, like when there's, you know, we're talking about like Ryder Cup environments, we're talking about Beth Page in 2025, like it is not Things are not trending great. No, I

Push back like if we really want to get into it like why don't they just not sell alcohol at sporting events, right? Like I feel like there are steps you can take to if you really really wanted to mitigate certain things like this like you could take steps but Counterpoint why are you giving money to charity? Also counterpoint, this was like Friday morning, right? Yes, it was like 8 a.m. Which as many people pointed out, like maybe, I mean, if they got me drunk at that point, he's gonna be loaded with it,

they're selling alcohol or not on site, right? Yeah, it's more so I guess guess, for the Ryder Cup, more broadly speaking, I think most of these will be as a result of alcohol. I don't know. I just feel like they make so many trade-offs in the name of the dollar that, you know, I don't know. It probably is going to take something very bad

to really shake things up. I would probably- In this case, it would have been the pound. Important distinction. I'd like to talk about MindWoo Lee a little bit. Lee. He's 22, second career European tour victory, former US... US junior...

...Junior Am champ. He'll have a good stat on the second win. Did you see this as well? With his sister is sister. Yeah, so his sister Minji Lee I like ninth or tenth or top 15. I think player top one swing in the world top one swing in the world She has won the Vic open twice He also won the Vic open. She was runner up at the Scottish the ladies Scottish open So they could have had his first two wins almost.

They would have doubled them up, which I thought, Randi, you like that, that's that. I thought that was pretty cool. Well, and you skipped over there. I think they're the only brother and sister to win the junior world. I did. Randi, I didn't even know that. Or the boys and girls junior. Yeah, yeah.

She won it in 2012. But I mean, I think it was fun to watch. Super, super promising. You know, I'm preaching to the choir here, but I mean, I think it was fun to watch super super promising. You know, I'm preaching to the choir here, but like super promising player and it seems like he's the last few years He's missed too many cuts. He's been missing cuts like over 50% of the time and it seems like his best seems to be Very very very good. It was cool to see some emotion out of him at the end there too. Uh, uh, uh, I'll see golf hot in the streets right now. No doubt. I know he's a, uh, he's, he's top mates with our guy, Curtis Luck. Uh, I don't think there's anybody that Curtis talks up more than he's from Perth, right?

And him. Yeah. He's a pro uav wav man. He's got quite like, I don't understand his results because I, he has one of the most inviable swings in, in golf, like it's truly a almost flawless golf swing. I mean, I don't pretend to it's truly almost flawless golf swing. I mean, I don't pretend to know a lot about the golf swing, but he is the swing that I want, that I'm not really necessarily working towards, but that's exactly what I would want my swing to look like.

So hopefully that's... He's like one of those guys, it's just like, you know, not everybody's Jordan's beef, not everybody's Justin Thomas, like, you know, just takes it sometimes, right? And I mean, I saw you got to remember that guy should still be in college. He should still be in college. Yeah.

You know, we say this all the time, you know, it all kinds of different contexts, but it takes while learning how to travel, learn how to play, learn how to manage your time, all that, all that stuff. And hopefully he's starting to get it matched up because he was, he was a fun young guy to watch. I feel like Thomas Dietrich is kind of a similar case, too, where he hit a couple solo seconds last year. Not, I think he's won one challenge tour event,

but it seems like he's made a big time slot at the end there. But yeah, just, you know, super talented, good collegiate career and just hasn't, he's stuck on tour, but he hasn't gotten over the hump as far as winning yet. So it seems like good things are ahead for him, but he's 28 now. Yeah.

So those two Minwoo, Tom, St. Tree and Jack Sr. all got into the open as well. Through the, I don't know, is it still open qualifying series or I don't know what they actually call it? But basically, as the top three finishers, not otherwise exempt, also Marcel Seam for winning at the challenge tour in France.

Also, it seems like everybody's getting to the open. It seemed like Ron played really, really well all week. He just didn't put well. He's already in the open. No, I know. But just going back to Siles Point about it being a putting contest. Well, it was definitely felt bad. Oh, for sure.

It was funny. So watching it on, I don't watch a ton of golf on DVR, because we always, you know, are usually on Twitter or doing whatever watching it live and reacting and stuff, but it was nice watching it on DVR because you can skip through. The commercials, which I'm sure we'll get to, skip through whatever. It's kind of funny when you're DVRing something and skipping through really fast, you kind of pick the guys, even if they're on the sixth hole, seventh hole, eighth hole, whatever,

you're like, oh, well, like clearly this guy's gonna win. So like, let me watch this shot of this guy's on the eighth hole and then skipping ahead. And it was funny how much I was, you know, just skipped like, I have, you just feels so obviously like the guy. And yeah, just had a couple of puts that didn't drop. It's gonna be a putz, it's gonna be a putz. I did appreciate it. He missed like a 18 inch putt on the 18th green on Saturday and he did like a just a routine around like,

I went and examined the cup because it ripped out so hard. And like I kind of missed it when it happened and he was like just looking so hard. I thought that was about popped out of the cup ring or something and they showed it. He just lifted out like it was not going in the hole. But ROM looks he looks. I owned.

Yeah. Yeah. It looks kind of freaky. Predator. Yeah. In terms of it. It still just never seems like he. Do you see the only time we've seen this a game was Memorial, and he obviously famously had to withdraw with COVID.

And the US open felt like B game, anyone, and this felt like B minus C plus, and he was right there, and it just seems like it's gonna be, these runs don't last forever, as DJ has kind of shown us. We kind of felt like DJ's run would last longer, which is an unrealistic expectation,

but Ram is on a heater, and he is the last I saw. He was plus 650 to win at St. George's, which I can't see that going up. I can't see that going down. There's a week goes on. I would say Ram's game at US Open was probably a B plus, but his floor was super high, right? Like he wasn't going to mess up.

He knew he was in total control of his golf ball, even if the top end wasn't there. Guy I would keep an eye on Pulse He's got he's got to you know, I think he's he's gonna try to get into that rider cup Contention to just not have to waste a captain's pick there and Also, I know it's different styles of golf courses, but Lucas Herbert going Yeah, you know winning last week and finishing a courses, but Lucas Herbert going, you know, winning last week and finishing a shot out of the playoff this week is that's pretty good form as well.

Uh, nice, nice homage to Arnie coming over to Scotland, kind of opening the floodgates to the American Ryan Palmer. Yeah. Second. You know, you one one shot back shot shot 64 today 17 under I wonder if they talked about that at like thanks give it and at all those kinds of things It's important if you're in position young Ryan to To the game. It's right. Yeah, pay it forward. All right, Grandpa. I'll do it. I really didn't see that would come I don't know how but I didn't see that coming that That got me good. Randy, have you been on the pod since, uh, Rahm won the US Open and clarified whether or not you said he stunk. Might have been ducking it since. No, uh, he's got to try to stick up for you.

And I'm like, no, I'm pretty, you know, no one loves Randy more than me, but I'm pretty sure he was, he was pretty hostile saying no, Rob Stinks take a boy. Yeah, Rahm is always stunk. I have never enjoyed watching him play golf. He got kind of crowned in Chicago last year with that funnel pin. I think I don't, I would say this, I don't think he wins the US opening anywhere except Tori. Like he got so lucky, it was a Tori this year. Oh, man, I kind of wish you were on this, I definitely wish you were on this recap. This is spicy a month later.

Solly, I do have, I have a bone to pick. We, you know, we're re entering the DJ era. He's these world number one. Back to number one. Back to number one. Great week from DJ to get back into number one. That's definitely gonna help everyone understand the world rankings better.

You know, last thing or not, last thing, but one other thing from Aberdeen, who might be among the best players in the world right now, blown away by this run, Richard bland as long as I knew that's where you're going. I knew it. He finished tied for 15th, which I mean, it's a good result. Good field. He was tied for fourth at the Irish open. I mean, we're a couple Saturday, Sunday, we're a couple rounds away in San Diego from him being literally the best player in the world right now over the last month and a half. I think just to break this up from wherever we're about to head, it's time for a quick break

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but just that felt a little note worthy going into. It's still impressive to like, you know, fly. Totally a few thousand miles go over play well. Like, you know, I thought there were a bunch of guys like, like, Xander played well. He was 14 under. Shaffler played well. He was 13 under. Well, they all took that boat.

Did you see the golf TV? Tweeted. I did fly. They all took that boat together. Yeah. Sam Burns, 11 under. Why didn't speed play? I don't know. Maybe he's just prepping. He's he's already one in my opinion. That's a good point. Big block back entire. Nothing goes to prove

already one next week. Well, back entire play well, podred played well. You know, Zalatoris made the trip 10 under. So I want to see Fitzpatrick and spieth play against each other in singles at the Ryder Cup. Prove there. Prove there. Yeah. I only had one more thing on the Scottish open. You guys see the Wade Ormsby ace. Did not. Ace number 12 today. And for that, very cheeky prize. It was 204 yard shot. They gave him 204 bottles of whiskey, which is an astronomical amount of whiskey.

It will cost me many lifetimes. I just want to, is that a good prize? Bad prize? Curious how you guys felt about the 200 or bottles of whiskey? How did I tax it? That's a great question. You know? You mean, duties out the ass, probably, right?

Yeah, what? You have to, yeah, I can't like, fly with this, man. What do you want me to do with all this? Fly, assume it all in your ship to him. Who is the guy that won the, it was a Heineken and like, somebody beat similar situation. I can't fly with this man. What do you want me to do with all this? I assume it all in ships to him. Who is the guy that won the, it was a Hennakin in like,

some of the beach from our situation. Well, that used to be the thing if you won the event in Japan. It was like, Don't not feel it. Yeah, you got a lifetime supply of Kobe beef. Now that's a prize. I guess kind of what I'm getting at is,

where does this stack up? And it seems like a mess. Like how do you, like distribute your ships across state lines alone are generally messy. How do you ship 204 bottles of whiskey? I don't know. Maybe it's a bluff. Maybe they're like, we're not actually

going to send it to you. We just like little airplanes size bottles. Did not say what size bottle. That's another good question. I just wanted to talk about it. I think it raises some interesting questions. I wanted to talk about how they handled the transition, as we transitioned to the John Deere,

how the golf channel handled the transition from the Scottish open to the John Deere. I want to say this upfront, like, I don't know what they're supposed to do. Like, they had a weather delay, they had both things going on at the same time, like the bills need to get paid, like, I get it. You're trying to fit two things in the same hole.

Like, it's tough. I actually kind of like the split screen. I was vibe with the split screen. I love the interther commercials. It was like, oh God. Well, it was just every time they ignore, like maybe, I don't know. Like I said, I was watching on my phone,

but maybe you guys saw it different. Every time it seemed like every time they cut to like the quote unquote PGA tour was a commercial a commercial right like you're watching the Scottish open full screen and then it's like all right and by the way the John Deere's going on and we're gonna take a break and the whole the whole vibe was very like we are monitoring we are monitoring these two events I just we just want you guys to know that we can't possibly show you both of them but we are monitoring this yeah it's like do I need to watch every single shot from Sebastian,

Munoz? Who's the other guy that like off brand for telly? He looks like he looks like a fertility and Ted Scott out of baby, Brandon Higgy. Like one of the for telly shot into the goodies. Like on the first or the second hole of the John Deere, meanwhile, an exciting three way playoff is going on. Yeah, no, I listen, I get all that. And if there was some like lever to, you know, that if there was some like fan interest dial that they had there, I don't think we'd have any of these problems.

But the issue is much more like contract. Yeah, it's PJ tour time and there's's different sponsors and different obviously different like commercial loads I think that was the big party because this has been the Cox time to shine though Did they underutilize the cock? They could have put it that that Sebastian Munia's shake on peacock premium Peacock double secret premium premium plus yeah Peacock premium plus. Yeah. Yeah. If you cock premium plus, I think maybe just hear me out.

Maybe NBC doesn't need to broadcast every fucking golf event in the entire world because they couldn't what LPJ ended up getting rained out. But they literally didn't even have a channel to put the LPJ on this week. It was on delayed. Can't show it. Can't show it. I got the American century. It's on NBC.

What do you want me to do? The LPGA get a get a refund? I would have to look at the contracts. I would sure hope so. I sure hope they would make it up to them. We can look at contracts. I don't think we understand them though. Like did somebody look at that like who's Jonesing for the American Century Championship? How does that? Marty Fission in probably in a tizzy? I got more press releases in my email inbox in the last two weeks about the American century than I'm guessing people maybe we can talk I don't know if we're gonna talk about the match at all, but I'm guessing people you know the people who

Somebody must watch this or wouldn't have been on for the last like 30 years however, it seems like it's been on forever Maybe it hasn't maybe I'm making that up, but it seems like we'll must watch it. You know who would know my God big flask might have to get it in this. Yeah, we need to break down that effort that. No, it just seems so silly. Like, you know, which of these is not like the others? Like, maybe this wasn't the week to put the American century on counterpoint. Holy moly beat the US open. So it wouldn't surprise me if the American century jibbitch it might outrate some like the US senior opponent. I bet. But they might because they're in the best spot on NBC. You know, if you throw them in

a bad timeslot on golf channel, nobody's going to watch it. Also scenery, right? I mean, people see Oh, like like Todd, that looks sick, you know. I'm like five minutes later. Wait, what am I watching? Yeah, changes. I like that sums up the experience so well. But people just like some people just turn on the TV and want to glaze over on Sunday afternoon, right? Well, my book presupposes is maybe that's not the best business model. Just like eight times as much ads, but also nobody's going to watch the ads. So the ads, the air go,

the ads probably don't work that fucking well. And that's what hit me more than anything today, whatever. But we don't need to, we've talked about this stuff. Come on. Like watching the John Deere, it's just like, man, why is this on for four days? Like this is tough.

I actually enjoyed watching the John Deere today. But when it's a commercial every four minutes, it's like, I'd like watching the back nine, it was great. But like, why does this exist as a TV product for 72 holes? There's no way this can make sense. There's no way these ads make sense. So there, it's just, it's, everything's broken.

It's a bit for hamster, damn. Come on. It really seems like it. I told you the match happened. I wouldn't even thought to bring it up a few at the bottom. As we've said many times, it was not the match. It was a match. No, it's capital ones the match. Capital ones a match.

When we get there, I'll stick up for the match. I enjoyed watching. You know, the capital one cafe. I found my coffee shop in Denver. You're, you know, the capital one cafe. I found my coffee shop in Denver. And then we're gonna have to go on cafe. Are we gonna talk about chess fast? Yes. Go ahead. Take us away. Or do you want to acknowledge Lucas Glover first?

Or do you want to talk about? Yeah. The most 18 to talk about. No, it's not a huge Lucas Glover fans. But I don't, I think everybody would agree that was not the story this week. I think chess was a story. But if you think we should start with Lucas Clever, then you're

running the shifts. Lucas Clever is great, huge fan. Like psychologically to play that well year after year after year after year and put that poorly takes such a long. Yeah. What a mentally strong individual. Like what a decade. It's just going through that for a literal decade, man.

It's just going through that for a literal decade. Man, it's crazy. And like he, you know, he's kind of running away with it today and like outwardly on the broadcast, they're saying, you know, he's missed a couple, like a one and a half two footer. It's missed a couple of these. Yeah, they were steering into it. What's the shout the Idra catalog in the gang? They were, they had a little, a little vibe going. I thought this week.

Yeah. I mean, Glover's not like more a cow on the short plot, so anything like that. But it's real though. I mean, he's a 120th and Strokes game putting come into this week. He was 19th this week, fifth on Sunday. And so that's the kind of, it's like what we say with Becky, right? Like he, he just hits it so freaking good every week that if he gets the putter going, he's, he's going to be there. He's the one guy that I think should be pre-approved. If they get rid of armlock putting, he should be pre-approved. If they get rid of arm lock putting, he should be pre-approved to keep arm lock.

Yeah. Great father did. He was on the podcast back in 2017, like when he, because his career looked kind of toast there for a little while. I mean, you had a good run there. Obviously, when the OSOP in 2009, shout out to the majors deep dive pod where we gave you

the podcast. I was curious if it was podcast bump. It was. a lot of people were called out as a podcast bump. But part of that podcast was kind of like, Hey, you know, who's in the, who's T2 after two rounds? Lucas Glover. Hey, you know, who's sitting at T3 at the blah, blah, blah British open after three rounds? Lucas Glover, he was around a lot more than I remembered and probably a lot of people remembered. And then he fell off there, you know, in the mid, like 2014,

15, 16, whatever that was. He had some, you know, more mishcuts than made cuts probably in that run. And then 2017 round his career resurgence, we had him on the pod talking about it. Maybe it was 20, I think it was 2018 and that we had him on. It was very unfortunately timed with a very public

personal matter he had happened to him at the players championship that year that people are still very, very, very eager to make the same joke that has been made for the past three years, even on one of his most triumphant days. And you're probably missing like a pretty interesting story there of a guy that had like a career resurgence for lack of a better word. And now one 10 years after winning for the last time 247 starts in between, I tried to like estimate it today

like you know me fucking hotel nights. That is like how many flights to catch how many courtesy cars and listen you made a lot of money along the way like all with the goal of like winning tournaments and to go 10 years in between it. I thought it was it was exciting. I was happy for him. He felt a like below 600th in the world in 2014 like 12 14, I think you had the knee injury in 12 and then 13, 14, he really struggled. But even like starting in 15 or I guess last year he missed 10 cuts in 22 events, but it's seven top 10s in 2019. Yeah. And seemingly like a lot of those should have been wins seconds, thirds, like seems like he's just been playing really solid for a while, right? Like this is not not a surprise by any means. And I was very happy to see it for all the reasons you mentioned.

And I think the other cool thing, like, you know, he, he, like went and got it today. Like in a massive way, right? Birdie's five last seven gets up and down on 18 out of the bunker to win. And I mean, it's just, I don't know, it's fun anytime somebody like really authoritatively slams the door. That's a 64s or fun. That's good stuff. Now do you want to enter chess fest now that the warm up act is off stage?

I think we can, I mean, let's, I think we're going to talk about chess fest for a while. Ryan Moore, they had a good stat on the broadcast today. Ryan Moore, he's one of the, one of like 12 players, I think 12 or 14 players to make the FedEx Cup playoffs every single year of its existence. He was 194th on the standings going into this week, finished tied for second, up to 136th.

So then try to keep that going. Kevin Nau, some flashes of two things on run more. Just this for any announcers they're listening. When you're down by two shots playing a 480 par 4 on the last hole, you're not thinking Eagle as go T off on it. All right, they give a lot of points and a lot of money away for solo second places. I bet all of my career earnings that he is thinking about finishing solo second. They try so hard to make it like it is do or die when this tournament or not. But no, it's a big fucking deal to finish solo second. So just that's one thing. Two, I tweeted it. So if you know the result, don't yet shout it out. But career earnings for Ryan Moore. It's got to be like 21, 22 million. I saw your stat and it blew my doors up. More than that. I didn't see it. I was going to initially I was thinking like 35.

31.67 not counting FedEx. It's probably closer to 35 with FedEx money. 38th all time in career earnings. It's probably closer to 35 with FedEx money. 38th all-time in career earnings. I can probably just go and do whatever he wants and never get stopped. He's a, I think, a fascinating guy. He's been low-key on towards the top of my list of guys that I think would be a great podcast. And maybe people know him or have talked to him a lot

and are either enthusiastically nodding or rolling their eyes. I don't really know much about him. I think that's why he interests me a lot. But yeah, we'd love to hear more. Going down. It was just an interesting mix of Kevin Nah, Adam Shankin. Kevin Nah, that was a good one. I know we'd say this all the time, but like, man, how did you

not see that when you come and eat? Come on. Obviously authentic, that should have been. Adam Shankin won like 90 yards over the green. Always cool to see the car bath play a role. And so it's always fun. He's so frustrating watching Luke List down the stretch because he just, he missed, he shortsided himself so many times today.

And, and, you know, came back with a couple of good birdies down the stretch, but man, it was just like, like, you know, came back with a couple good birdies down the stretch, but man, it was just like, like, you're so talented, it's crazy that you haven't won yet. And just, you know, tugging a wedge here or there or missing on the wrong side of the hole, it's like, man, and like, I know it's not easy to win, but Scott Brown, you know, he's out there doing it. It's a vassion. No, the list news music. Moons look like he shot 63 first rounds with the 767 and then shot 71 a day.

No, that was not a shame. That ball went backwards. Like that was that ball like exited the screen near like the bottom right corner, but it says live golf. Like that's where it exited the screen. I've never seen a shame. Look that bad. And then and then he went into the line bad. And then he had three more that were just low squirters to the right that

he just hated right off the club. Yeah. Lebiota. Lea's T8 65 today. You want to talk about the best player in the world. Yeah. Oh, Jim or Richard Blan I think it's got to be Brian Stewart sneaky T8. The Irish contingent wants us to note how hot shameless power has been in recent weeks. They're going to get mad if we don't mention that. So I'd be remiss. It looked like Cameron champ was

wearing fly fishing waiters today in his rain, rain pants. uh, yeah, that brings us down to Chess at T18. Well, how would, how would ZJ have handled the gun range, you know, pop and off there this afternoon? The broadcast finally had to address it. If you're hearing gunshots, trust me, it's a very safe neighborhood. There's a shooting range nearby. But it's like a harding park, right? That they have the same thing? Yeah. Uh, all right. So that brings us to Chess Fest for, for those that have no idea what we're talking about, including me because I was out almost the entire week. So we do a thanks to our friends

draft Kings. We do a preview show every week. Everybody gets 100 hypothetical nuggies or nuggies as the franchise likes to call them. It's spurred a bunch of inside jokes, a bunch of really hard laughs, a lot of very sweaty palms on Sunday afternoons, because nobody wants to lose. And so if you don't know what we're talking about, that's what we're talking about. We do those pictures every week on YouTube

and sometimes we roll them into the podcast, but Neil, I would say uncreatively picks Ches Revy almost every week. This week, he decided that it was going to be Ches Fest. He was picking all five ways. We're going to be Ches Revy bets, Ches to win, Ches to top 10, Ches to top 20, Ches to top 30 and Ches to miss the cut. So what does Ches do? He goes out, takes the first round lead early in the day.

I don't think he finished with the first round lead, but it was an absolute electric inaugural Chez Fest. And, you know, I don't even know what more there is to say. And he did it in one of the classiest ways possible. He just plain such nice goal. Wasn't Bernie in the Parfod. Two of us went to the course. You know, and then Chats 67, round two, 69 on Saturday. And then today it looked like,

you know, it looked like it was gonna be his day. Birdies two, bad bogey on five, and then just a big string of bars there in the middle. Two late bogeys, bogeyed 15 and 18, just devastating, which brings, you know, that second one brought him into, from a T11 to T18, and then, you know, now, now, Neil's going to get chopped down.

Yeah, it wasn't a lucrative. It wasn't a lucrative. I haven't done a win. A win's a win. I'll speak for Neil here. A win is a win. It doesn't matter if you're making money or not. But Ches, I mean, Ches winning this week would have been one of the all time great.

For sure. It would have been moments in the history of the PGA tour. I couldn't, could have said it better by I said more or Chess finishing T 31st or worse. It would have been one of the all-time best moments. We had two we had two outs there on the river. Well, you didn't get either on board, Charlie. I was floating this to you guys earlier this week. I think I had so much fun following this this week that I kind of think I know we've threatened this a lot

But next year we should absolutely go to the John Deere We should have an informal much like would the inaugural Woodstock Just hey anybody who wants to show up show up by a ticket. It's gonna be Chez Fest And just follow about Thursday. I think would be an absolute blast So I told about this we should have we should take Freddie to the Dondere. Like how much would he freak out? He loses mine, take him to the big dig. I've always wanted, it's been like high on my list.

I thought about, I saw as up in Minneapolis this weekend. I thought about if Chez was going into today leading, I was gonna cancel my flight, rent a car and drive down to the Quad Cities. How'd it been on the drive? We've like four or five hours, rent a car, and drive down to the Quad Cities. I've been on the drive. We've like four or five hours, right? No, I've been on the drive. I've been on the drive.

No, I've been on the drive. I've been on the drive. I've been on the drive. We've like four or five hours, right? No, I've been on the drive. I've been on the drive. I've been on the drive. I've been on the drive.

I've been on the drive. I've been on the drive. I've been on the drive. I've been on the drive. I've been on the drive. I've been on the drive. I've been on the drive. I've been on the drive. I've been on the drive. I've been on the drive. I've been a good guess. I was kind of reading that neighborhood to you. I'll say 15. I have no idea

Excuse trot has been hanging a chance first all I guess I'm guessing 18 to 20. I'll say I'll say 19 He has made Let's see. I was sick. I thought he was ready with it. I don't get to. I know my way around. I know exactly how to get to career. Don't you worry about that. Of course, the tour website, like, reloads every time you scroll. 17.8. I was 1 million. Wow. What a guess. It's five hours and 27 minutes from the 20 cities to the Quad cities. Very worthwhile. My wife would have killed me. Well, close the book. I mean, I know we got some, you know, as Neil said, we got you know,

rain during the headliner is never is never good. That's never a good festival. That doesn't mar the three great days of music that were played. Exactly. No, they made it work at Woodstock, certainly. But yeah, keep an eye out for for fest or a chest fest. It's a chest chest. Chest chest could be Friday.

That could be a golf tournament that we put together. That's a whole thing, but keep an eye out for that. It was just so cool. Chest fest, 22. It was so cool to see the community rally around Chess. You know, our friend Stephen Britton played with Chess in the program this week and said, you know, he's absolutely watching it.

He was watching it. Yeah. He's out of the past week. How about Maverick? 18 parts. 18 parts. I mean, on a Sunday at a major is usually good enough to win. Not at the John deer though. What a resplendent performance though. I think that's one of the cooler rounds

of the year. Very proud of them. It was anywhere else besides the John deer. If you hadn't picked him to top 10 in the aforementioned draft Kings thing, I would have been awestruck by it. But I thought Bernie's would have been really, really cool today. I really, I enjoy watching that golf course. It's fun, yeah. There's some fun holes. I think I thought they set it up really, really well today.

You know, it was like throwing darts out there and the guys were actually having to manage their spin and like take spin off. Nobler had a really cool point. He was, I think, has good points, but he was saying that, you know, it's a good day. We're basically trying to hit almost kind of like knock down eight, seven, eight, nine irons rather than wedges, which are just going to spin like crazy. And when it gets a little colder like that, a little windy, like, it just brings a lot more elements into play than they're gonna be able to really showcase

on the TV broadcast. But there's some cool little run outs on some of the, and who wins? And who says is the whole Lucas clover, you know? Yeah, proper player. Yeah. No glove in the rain, still, I just don't understand that you gotta have, just with my glangel issues,

at some I can't of my head around. No, I do not have good, like, calluses. Like, is that it? I have calluses, it's just, I think the heel, like the heel of my hand, the club slides on that. I don't know, I can't, like once the glove gets worn on the heel, like I gotta replace it, it's good. I actually find that when my hand's like,

shrivel a little bit or when it's super wet. Yeah, no gloves, better. I actually get more tacky. I'm with you. It happens like shrivel a little bit or when it's super wet. Yeah. No, I actually get more tacky. I'm with you. It happens like once a year, twice a year, where you're just like, oh, it's a no glove day. Excellent. Shout out to Tim Snell, who in our Gear Heart event, brought out dish washing gloves and

played golf in it. And it was very much a stereo killer move, but it also looked like it. It also kind of looked like it worked and I kind of wanted to experiment with move, but it also looked like it. It also kind of looked like it worked, and I kind of wanted to experiment with it, but a Chaz Reinhorn situation. I wanna call out Zach Johnson T34, unacceptable to John Deerser, unacceptable. 71 today, unacceptable. I hate that.

The slonger kind of got slong too. I thought he was gonna do some slonging, but he got a little slong today. Rulie have no idea what Adam Long's gonna do ever, any tournament ever. There's nothing that comes, no build up to a great event. Great round one day,

you don't know what he's gonna do the next day. He might be the microwave man. That's what I was gonna say. And also, he's first alternate now for V-Open. So, he's probably in, because people just get in. He misses so many like he's missed 12 12 cuts and 17 events this year, but it seems like he's been contending when he makes a cut. Yeah, exactly. So if we've been recording Jim Fiorek just closed out the US senior open eighth player

ever to win a US open and a US senior open. I watched a good amount of it. I could watch you do some on that Saturday night and Omaha Country Club looks with a great crash course that our boy Ben did this week. It's on our YouTube channel if you missed it on Omaha Country Club. Look like a very uncomfortable course. A lot of just really unique shots that guys were having to hit up hills and talking about some of the shots where he had to not spin it too much. And it became a little bit of avoiding divots and a mudball fest because you know the USGA is not playing the ball up despite having crazy storms and a golf course that was struggling there for in the middle part of this tournament to deal with 95-9R wins and towers toppling over and all that stuff.

But got tournament in and yeah Jim Furek, one of the guys that is actually following up on the, oh that guy's going to terrorize the senior tour when he gets there. mantra, which everyone gets when they turn 50, but congrats to my, my great friend Jim. Yeah, a very cool, very proper player. That crash course was one of my favorites to watch.

There's, you know, they all do a good job of this, I think, but they, they, the goal is, I think, when you get done to feel like, man, I really want to go play golf. That place makes me want to go play at Omaha Country Gubbs. Perry Maxwell. Pretty tip top of that list. Midwest associate. I won't say I watch any of the tournament, but respect that it exists. I can't watch Jim furek these days.

All I can think about is fluff is like he looks to old to be carrying back I'm just worried about him the whole time He might be able to retire on this one. So I think I think I think I'm still in okay. I know I'm sure he's doing okay I'm physically I just wish you would I'm you know take care of himself. Why don't don't over strain We're seeing a pretty solid career surgeons from Mike Weir. Yeah. T2, 300 a day fun around. That's, I think, tied for the low round a day with Rod Pampling.

There was a drivable four that Fred Couples hit driver on and Mike Weir hit three wood on and put it in the green sand bunker. Like, Weir is bombing the ball. Things might have flipped when he was playing behind you at the green bill, the BMW celebrity program, T.C. Yeah. Yeah, he was a dark boy. Did you speak to him at all? I did. I did. I was like, man, I got one of the

masters. Yeah, he's playing ahead of me. And the franchise is cating for me. That's the file, man. That's true. Yeah, well, get on him for flipping it around after that. What do you want to do next? The match? You want to ride for the match, big guy? I'll ride for the match. Do we want to talk LPGA? Do we want to do match?

What do you want to do first? I want to talk LPGA because I'm pissed. I think TC's mad as hell. I think Austin Ernst was going to win that thing today. This is such a perfect TC thing like the starting I canceled well, and to be clear, she was started around eight shots back. Yes, right She birdied the two holes and then took her off the course because she got too hot It took her off the course. They read flagged it. I know she was gonna make a move

I think Kang was Dan. Yeah, the mudhand was was looking to make a move as well. For those that weren't following Mr. Randy, what happened this week? They're in just outside Toledo, Sylvania, the marathon, LPGA. One of the more, I think one of the better stops, you know, kind of annual non-major stops on the LPGA calendar. Is that what you like, like, light bulb company in space? Sylvania. Yeah. Well, I know. I mean, I looked at up rainy. Go ahead. Sorry. Toledo is a glass. So I feel like it's gotta be right. It's very well. Very well. Quite great. Yeah. I well, I feel like this tournament ended on day day one when Nasa Hataoka shot 61 took it mega deep. Shout out TC. She's named after the NASA space program. It was a big

it was a big week for space. In general, I actually I got deep into it was good to have a long road trip. I can catch up on all this UFO news that's been going on. That's 100%. Like like the last like every week. Yeah. Yeah. They have a lot of stuff they can't explain. But yeah, NASA is named after NASA. It was the same to say. they can't explain. But yeah, Asa is named after Nasa. It was the same to say. I thought she lifted off the joke. Yeah, right, that's why everybody thinks it's a joke, but it's not a joke, which makes it even better. So anyway, she was up by six, going into the final round.

Terrible weather is solid. And I can attest looking out our hotel room window. Very bad weather here. So they ended up, they sent some groups out this morning. It was just, it was going to be a slog tomorrow's forecast. Unfortunately, didn't look any better. So they called it. So Nasa wins, six shot victory.

Everybody just reverted to their scores after the end of round three. Elizabeth Sokol and Mina Herrigay, tied for second. Yucasasso sniffed around, tied for fifth. She's playing well. TC, Stiff Around, tied for fifth. She's playing well, TC said Austin, Ernst was tied for fifth, just kind of a disappointing. I think this point week, certainly for the local folks who, you know, this is like one of the biggest sporting events

in Northwest Ohio. They don't have any pro sports teams around. So just kind of ashamed that the weather didn't work out. Well, first time in 36 years, it's been washed out on Sunday. I thought it was interesting. This is NASA's third 54-hole victory. Really? She's just...

Dustin Johnson, though. Yeah. The new DJ. Yeah. No other real hot takes. They were like we kind of mentioned earlier. Their coverage was getting all water per job because of all the other golf, but, you know, we can probably let that lie for a week.

I also just want to say, thinking about Jane Park, husband Pete, and their little gold grace in the hospital down in Dallas, trying to figure out kind of what's going on with her. She's been having seizures and all sorts of stuff. So thinking and praying for you, Jane. Yeah. And Tiffany Joe has been, uh, been publicizing a go fund me that's out there to that you can support the park family as they're going through a very, very difficult time.

And we did, we can tweet up the link to that as well. So, uh, echoing TC sentiments there up to Montana. The match, that seems like it was two months ago. I think at this point, uh, Randy, your huge match guy take us there. I thought it was cool. So I didn't get to see the first few holes. I was recording a podcast, I think, as it was. And I turned it on.

First of all, I looked gorgeous. I think I was personally interested. I've been skiing at Big Sky and I've been up there in the summer. So I was curious to what it would look like that time of year. Listen, I'm a huge Michelson homer. Everybody knows that But where I think Phil does a really good job and where I did think like I was drawn in was One example in particular like when he got Bryson talking about his his how he reads putt Like that was genuinely very interesting. Brandy people don't want to hear that shit

They won't lev celebrities hitting golf shots. But fans don't want to know how the game works. They don't want insight into how guys play. They don't want anything about their process. They don't want to hear how they warm up. They don't want to hear what they're thinking between shots. They want to see celebrities. That's it, man.

I don't know what to tell you. I know you think you enjoyed it, but you didn't. Well, they did see celebrities. Is that Aaron Roderick? No, I know't know what to tell you. I know you think you enjoyed it, but you didn't they did see celebrities It's I Aaron Roderick. No, I know I'm I'm messing with you like yeah, of course. It's fucking awesome I don't know why guys aren't mic'd up like it's the best. It's the best But I wanted to give credit to Phil because I think Phil is able to bring that out of Bryson in that format and I think Phil's Presidents at the match, like if you absolutely fill out for another guy, that could get very stale and just like,

nobody's really talking. So I guess I wanted to give him kudos for almost being that on-course commentator analyst, like he more than anybody I felt like was getting the me entertained in the golf. He does a really good job, I think, in those formats. Listen, was the golf, I don't know, I kind of take the rest of it, but just hearing him and then getting Bryson, like, being able to see some of the best players in the world and listen to them go through the pre-shot routine and exactly what they're thinking, exactly what they're trying

to execute. I think that's interesting. Especially at elevation, too, which that adds another variable and, you know, it's an interesting thing to track. I didn't get to watch a lot of it, but the parts I did see I came away with one very key question. Does it have to be live? Can it be a day late because it was five and a half hours or something? I think that's how the gambling comes in, right? The gambling and fundraising.

Maybe if they're on air, like, I just don't, that's a true, like I don't know how the contracts work. Like maybe they have to be on air for a certain number of hours to make the buy worth it, to make all the ads worth it, to make the gambling worth it. Like, yeah, I'm with you though,

I think as a TV show, I mean, if you cut it down to either nine holes, or if you cut it down to like a pre-produ-produced two-hour show, I'd be way more in. But I'm guessing they're probably handcuffed by some things there. Because I think, from what I saw, the Bryson douche factor was not turned up. He felt like a little dialed down. I saw the very first hole when he brought the duct tape out and for Brady.

I was like, I thought, honestly, I thought, like, of Mike Depp, Bryce, and Mike Breaks, and people. But the parts I did here was kind of like, he didn't, you know, like, ham up his answers too much. You know, they're asking about his diet and like figuring out how he's relating his diet to, you know, speed and stuff like that. I was just like, yeah, do that was like a really good, honest human answer.

Like you weren't trying to do too much with that answer. And like if you acted like normal like that, people might have some affinity towards you. It's also like, God, those guys are in such an unenviable position. Yes. Like JT that much time. JT like achieved almost the impossible, I think, in the in the first, you know, the tiger fill when it was, you know, Brady and Manning and raining and whatever, like with how great he came away from that, like it's such a not normal situation, right? And you've just got so many people in your ears, so many people around, so much practice, all this stuff that's just like, yeah, be normal, be normal, be normal like that.

Be funny. No, be witty. Like not even normal. Like you, this is going to be hilarious. Go be hilarious. Hold on, we got to hear from Taco Bell real quick, and then we're gonna hear from, we got the president calling in, and then we're gonna do, blah, blah, blah, we got this many brands, we're gonna do this blah, blah, blah. Yeah, now go, funny, funny, funny. Yeah, yeah. Such a hard spot for those guys, so yeah, I'm with you.

But yeah, and that's where I, another guy like, when Barclays involves, like he's so good. I don't know like they they've there's certain guys at that make that format work certain people and um but did this did this one feel like a step back in the series right because I thought like number two was incredible. I thought that was really entertaining. Number three was a very different um you know it came at a great time. It was like a time when we were kind of craving some more golf, I think. What was number one? That was Barclay.

Yeah, okay. And that's that's where I would say is probably just where it fell on the calendar. Yeah. And like the time of debt, like I think that's where it fell short. I think that's valid. You know, I I'm not like starving for more golf right now. So I do hear you there, which there was some good golf played in the little bits that I saw. Like Tom Burrini played a lot better air in Rogers. Like every time I looked up, he was drained and putts. Like that was, I do think it is interesting to watch

athletes perform under that scenario. I honestly truly couldn't care less who wins. You know, like the trash talk and stuff like that is is gone It's kind of tough, but Bryce and an Aaron yeah, I had a little root speaking of our DK weekly picks, but yeah, I You know, it'll be interesting. You know, I guess we say this after everyone, but kind of interesting where they go from here I think I think we know where they're gonna go, or I think we know where they wanna go.

And I hope it happens this fall. And it would, I don't know, maybe it's already will have died out by then, but I think that they're, I don't know. It's still kind of a silly competition more than it is, like a match. That's why it's kind of. You're talking Bryce on drugs, by the way.

Yeah, right? Yeah. Yeah. We're both guys in sports that like, straight up don't like each other. And not even do like a two on two thing, just make it like two one on one matches. It is such a different vibe though, because you remember the first one when it was Tiger Phil

and they leaned into like, oh, this is, this means everything. This is going to be the most hyped up competition ever. And then you gotta treat it like a real serious golf competition and then that loses a bunch of the juice. And it's just a, it's a really hard spot, I think, to make those interesting and dynamic and all those different things for that long.

And I think, yeah, I don't know, man. It's a tough spot. I dug Aaron Rogers just kind of seemed generally disillusioned and kind of like... Disinterested. Yeah, kind of disinterested, but also kind of Zen, and I was kind of in on his whole... Well, he was just preven for the American Century, right? That could be right. Yeah.

Well, he was very much like not trying to put off the vibe of like, hey, me and Bryce are really good friends. Like, he was very... He not trying to put off the vibe of like, hey, me and Bryce are really good friends Like it was very Free game shows. Yeah, I just don't really think he like knows how to talk to people, which I'm like whoa, that's like a That's like a god. Yeah, that's like a very pretty Serious revelation. I think all of us have kind of like thought in the back of our heads But yeah, you just kind of said it. I'm not gonna lie, man. Like I saw the, it was Tuesday, a lot going on.

And then I saw the thing of Bracen getting out of the helicopter, getting in the helicopter, fuck this. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not subjecting myself to this for the next few hours. Well, so that's, that's the hard part, I think, with these. And this is where it's, you know, I think you're right, so if it was a pre-packaged thing or like a produced, you know, not live thing, I think that would be one thing. But if you look at what made the one in the rain so good, I think a lot of it was just like, it truly felt like,

oh man, like anything could happen right now. And like, that's the point of live sports, right? Is to watch and just like, man, I don't know what's going to happen. Anything could happen. And it was, they got really lucky because, you know, Brady holds out and then he rips his pants and like, people's mics are not working and, you know, people are calling in and it just had all this like natural spontaneity to it. And I don't know how you create that naturally. You know what I mean? Like they have this. Everything's just a button up because there's so many moving parts.

And there's so many sponsors and there's so much like TV stuff. And I don't fault them for this at all. I don't know how the hell you would do it. But like it's so hard watching it. I watched maybe two or three holes of it. And I'm just like, I'm good, man. Like nobody's actually going to say anything interesting. Nobody's actually going to say anything like crazy or outlandish.

And if they do like, you know, I hate to say it, but like I'll just see it on Twitter. I don't need to watch this for five hours. You know, it was kind of my takeaway from it. I don't know if you guys felt that way or I don't really fault anybody for it. It's just kind of how I felt. Oh, and I won't fault you for feeling how you feel. I think where I net out was like I found a couple things that were interesting. And, and you know like it was that or I Didn't find it effect like god. What am I trying to say like it was just on a little bit and I was like oh, it's on I'll watch it better than that. Yeah, yeah, I think that's where it kind of netted out for me Like had I had other stuff going on and I couldn't watch it like okay, no big deal

But you didn't so I watched you know, you know, I'd taken my Montana. Yeah, definitely. It showed out beautifully. Like it was, it was gorgeous. I think also with this one, this was the first one that I didn't really care about the question that was being asked. Like I don't care about this man.

Like Steph Curry, like lined up against the Tor Pro's, like I want to see how this goes. Like a plus one handicap can shoot 82 and that can happen. And Barclay, I want to kind of see how you handle this. Where's like an a Brady and Roger. This just didn't have that matchup but just seemed like a bunch of ideas blended together into one and it was not a must see thing in that regard.

But the only other thought I had while I was watching it was remember when the first one aired and we were like, man, this is going to absolutely change how the PJ Tours broadcast on TV. And then for like three weeks, they were like, yeah, we're going to really, it's going to be some hot audio out here. And then that just went away and now everything's exactly the same. I just wanted to point out the futility of trying to change anything.

I can't. Oh, yeah, yeah, that kind of maybe laugh a little bit. Don't like the players, Randy. Nobody's interested in that. No, give me TikTok people. Exactly. Can't have too much of a good thing. In other Bryson news, I think Bryson was just destined

to have somebody with the kind of energy on his bag that would take his literal bag and jump into his pool as they unveil it in a zany super crazy way that Brian Ziegler is his new caddy which was the plan all along of course if you've read the piece on golf.com the plan was all along was for Tim to quit you know in but on a you know Wednesday night into Thursday morning before a tournament the Bryson was defending. I'm just glad to see the plan from come to fruition finally. Stolly for not myself, I know all about Brian, but for anybody that doesn't know about his new caddy, what's what's the skinny on him?

He is a coach of one of his many coaches, I believe, he's Dallas National guy. I don't really know. Honestly, I have not, I don't know a ton about the caddy or whatever. He's more. You guys, I very well could be the dude guy. Maybe there's multiple dude guys. And how do you backfill the dude guy? If so, I think that we'll look into that. Watching that video, I just kind of like donned on me. Bryson might be, he's like the Nickelodeon golfer.

Like he, everything he does is like designed to amaze like 12 year olds. So I think there's something to do that. I mean, I think, you know, not everybody has to be edgy or crazy. I get it. It's not my thing. But, you know, I guess I get it. A lot of money to be made in the years. That's kind of what I'm getting at.

Yeah, I guess. But anyways, kids are into like, are we that fucked? Yeah, I don't know. Well, let me ask you this. So you sent some shots at the golf.com piece. If everybody doesn't know what we're talking about, there was a Bryson spoke exclusively to the one media outlet that presumably writes him a check to describe exactly

how it went down, what's going on. This is the real story. I saw you take a couple of pot shots at that on Twitter. Is there anything to add? I mean, are you, you know, where are you at here? You're clearly holding some cards. I don't know if there's anything else we can talk about. Clearly in a difficult spot as this goes.

And I just found it particularly interesting that after the article went up Bryce and screenshot it and shared to his Instagram to say, hey, go check out the piece on golf.com about what really went down about my caddy. And that just bothered me a lot because if anyone fell for that, I kind of feel for you.

You are being sold to here. And very clearly, like the story Bryson is edging to get in your face about what happened. It's so obvious not what happened. And it is, I'm just into the hard spot where it's like, this is the story now, you know, that Tim has spoken and said these things. And I don't know who is believing this. This is the story now that Tim has spoken and said these things.

And I don't know who is believing this. I really don't, but that is what is going on the record now. And you can come to your own conclusions on that. It should not be too hard to come to, though. All right. I have two takeaways here from this article. I'm just scrolling. I hope you're not stealing mine.

Is it the helicopter haul? Yes. Because you saw, you mentioned something very important there. You said on the record and sorry, TC, let me let me take that one and then please share your other one. But you got to think that this was like combed through really like pretty carefully worded. I'm sure there's a lot of cooks in the kitchen confirmed. Yes, confirmed that I'm sure there were a lot of cooks in the kitchen. Confirmed. Yes, confirmed that I'm sure there were a lot of people

who were like, let's make sure we're really crafting the narrative as, you know, so many really brilliant people are so good at doing. Getting out ahead of you. We're getting out ahead of this thing. A week after it happened. This paragraph, which was the only paragraph that I read because everything else just went out the back of my head.

Quote. Now, Deshambot says, he's looking forward to the next phase of their relationship and he plans to take up Tucker on his standing off for this offseason of trying helicopter hog hunting. Legal? I don't think you guys know much about helicopter hog hunting because I looked it up on YouTube

and it is fucking harrowing. It's like the weirdest, most dystopian shit I have ever seen. It's outrageous. Where do they do it? Like Texas? Like Texas and I think there's like some spots, you know, down towards like Lake Okeechobee and stuff. Down, down where it gets real Florida. It's exactly what you think. You go in an open shopper like you're fucking, you know, storm in the hill and you're flowing around with a machine gun just like gunning down wild hogs. Sounds really fair. Super fair. This fucking second amendment, Randy. Look it up. But just in a piece where it's like, no, no, no, let's just like make sure everybody thinks,

you know, everybody's very amenable. You guys are just coupled very normal guys, super normal relationship. This idea of like, yeah, make sure everybody knows that I do still want to get in the helicopter and gun down wild hogs. Make sure they know that as well. Cause I'm totally down to do that.

And I want people to know that I'm told, that's the kind of thing I'm super into. Tim's got this to do that. And I want people to know that I'm told that's the kind of thing I'm super into. Tim's got this whole transportation business. Yeah, so he's great. Which no business has gotten more free publicity in the history of publicity than Tim's shuttle service, which sounds great. He's looking to start, he famously was a former caddy at Bannon-Dunes and now is starting a, basically a shuttle, like a luxury shuttle service, you know,

probably picks you up at the airport and drives you down that beautiful organ coast to band it. So yeah, that's apparently what he wanted to do and was gonna go do that eventually anyways. And for reasons that were totally 100% mutual, they just decided to kickstart that right now. Which I think there is something to like a plan that Tim was not going to do this forever. Because I, it, it, but it wasn't a hundred percent not mutual when they split on the

with on the Thursday of the rocket mortgage. Let's just get that on the record. It's possible the Hawks were running in Texas. He ended to get out of there. It's possible the Hawks were running in Texas, he ended up getting out of there. So yeah, what was your big one, TC? You other takeaway? I didn't know anything about the transportation shuttle, but I've been trying to, I've been on a price and diet lately of pricing content, trying to, trying to stay lean on that stuff. Anyways, if this was the plan all along, I'm also very curious as to why it took a week for this, you know, carefully crafted PR statement to come out.

Again, I'm sure that everything in there was totally true and that's exactly how it went, but this was another one from golfchannel.com. I think Brentley Romain wrote this, but he was kind of recapping. So, Bryson famously, I don't know if we forget how much we, while we didn't talk about this because we didn't have a recap pod last week, but Mrs. The Cut at the Rocket Mortgage refuses to, refuses might be a hostile word, but chooses not to speak to the press. Either day, no media is mutual though, but between him and the press. Really mutual.

I have nothing to say. Yadda, yadda, yadda. So the first time he does media is promo stuff for the match. And now I'm reading from golf channel.com. Said before golf digest, Todd Leonard could even finish the first question to DeShambo on a call of a few gathered reporters. DeShambo was quick to play at Kool.

This is the reporter. I know things have been rough, dot, dot, dot, Bryson. Rough, what are you even talking about? Deschambo interjected. I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Aaron Rogers then chimed in. Get him, Bryson.

Ha, ha, ha. Instead, Deschambo spent the majority of the call talking about the upcoming matchup and the trash talk and the altitude. So again, I don't know why people are even asking about it. Couldn't have been more mutual. I mean, how much do you think you paid, Tim? For like a non-disclosure, like an NDA, basically, no idea.

I mean, probably probably a hundred grand, probably six figures, right? Who could that true? I guess a little, yeah, a little parting. Yeah, I think that's a good case. Leave a good taste in his mouth. Yeah, exactly. He's still 100k. Because Tim, how much is helicopter?

Especially if Tim doesn't want to keep cadding. Like if he knows his cadding career's over, he's like, all right, well, like I got nothing to lose. I can go burn every bridge out there on the PGA tour and write a a salacious book about this absolute nut job that I just spent the last few years with. Yeah. Wood would read wood listen. Yeah. Well, that's that's kind of what a lot of people

say is like, man, you know, it would be a really, and this is a, you know, no free ads, I guess, but, but kind of, you know, what I'd love to do is go sit in a luxury van drive down the Oregon coast. For a while. Like, all right, let's keep track. We don't have to go to abandon immediately. Yeah. Oh, what is that? Tim, I'm going to drive.

You drink. OK, you drink and tell. Yeah. I tell stories. Anyways, that's pretty much all I've got for this past week. Bubba is out of the open chavichipi came in contact with someone who was tested positive despite being fully vaccinated is unable to make the trip.

St. George, it's going to be wild if somebody tests positive on the charter. Yeah. Because the. It's going to be wild if somebody tests positive on the charter. Yeah. Because the entire charter is going to get wiped out. Right. So yeah, I could not be much more excited to watch some Open Championship golf this week. We're going to have a full pre-mute podcast

will be out Tuesday at some point. Anything else before we wrap up? Big eye. I got to find some dinner somewhere in Toledo that's not closed at 9 p.m. on a Sunday big news tag writings prevailed and a two hole playoff out in Colorado on the cornferrey tour this and actually tag writings I think was in Mike wears group get out ahead of me. No, no, they were there was a two group backup. And we brought into both of them in between. I think tag was in front and we were was behind and we were the,

the middle of that sandwich when trunks were in a mizzo in main full. I always remember tag writings too. I would always see him at a sectional qualifying in Columbus. And he always carried his own back, never had a caddy. And I think he's kind of crazy. His last victory, only other victory on the Corn Ferry Tour, the Permian Basin Open in 2002. Oh, God.

God, we're praising Lucas Glover. Like, imagine everything Lucas Glover's going through, except for on the Corn Ferry Tour. Yeah, I mean, the fringes of the PJ. Other, other such luminaries is Mark Leishman, David Brugano, Brant Sneticer, Luke Guthrie have all won the Permian Basin open and with this victory, writings goes from 138th on the Cornferia tour list to 69th. So he won, he won a tournament

and he's not, and unless he plays well in the, few weeks, he's not even going to get into like the, the finals. That's wild. Only that thing I got on, uh, on how Cabrera going to prison for two years had that in my notes. Uh, I will refuse to speak until we hear from Billy Payne on this. He did not live up to the ideals that we expected. Sad story, it really is. I don't know, I don't know if I would take on it other than it's just sucks.

What sounds like there are other cases against him down there as well? Yeah, I think he's, I think he's just, it's not good. A bad guy. Yeah, it's not good, it's not good. What do they do? Does he get out of prison and then get to go back to the champions dinner? I got to think that these kinds of charges would fall under conduct on becoming, you know, I don't

think that Augusta will be issuing him an invitation going forward. No, I don't know how they, I don't know how they do that. And then Vinny Del Negro won the American Century championship celebrity golf tournament over my guy, John's Colts. Yeah, I got it for the lads also. That was that was a watch. Which all right, so so Del Negro's father passed away I guess a couple days ago and he didn't with WD from the American Century. We're looking into this seems like a with WD from the American century. We're looking into the situation. It seems like a, I have no idea.

It appears like you have a wild, wild scenario there. But, you know, maybe it was one of those things that was a huge golfer and possible. Oh, no. Too many creeps in their own way. So, Randy, I want to hear about Columbus Country Club. It's wonderful. I, for anybody in and around Central Ohio,

you know, ranking wise, I understand the best course in Columbus, but I think it's my favorite course in Columbus. It's absolutely the course I could play every day, extremely walkable. They restored it to its roots. I think Keith, Keith Foster's crew. I don't know who the actual guy. Maybe Mike Hargraves. I believe is the name. I hope I'm getting that right. It's just a wonderful, wonderful golf course. Yeah. I don't know. I have to do a crash course pod all on it, but yeah, it was a treat. I played White Bear Yacht Club on Friday. Heaving fairways.

Not a flat lie. I just run it over the whole place and then and then play Braimar, the adina city municipal adina. That's where the cake eaters. Yeah, Adam. Famous. Thank you. Yeah. It was it was delightful. Great, great public off course. Well, they got a little part three course there. Reigns was chock full. Awesome grill and bar there. great back porch. I was blown away by the place. Love it. Shout out to Framework.

I played nowhere. I played nowhere as well, dude. You got to start entering your scores, Dege. Yeah, people are starting to notice Dege. Sir, Nonsensmeh, both of that offline. Not told to lie, my friend. Yeah, exactly. Come on, boy.

All right, everyone have a great week. We'll be back very shortly here with a preview for this coming week's UK British Open presented by her majesty, the queen and pray for some decent weather for the big guy and I for tomorrow at Emberness. Oh, drenched city USA. Tough candidates. Cheers boys. Good night. See ya. I'm going to give it a right club. Be the right club today. Yes. That is better than most. How about in? That is better than most.

Better than most. Expect anything different. I expect anything different.