No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 455: British Open Recap, Round 1
Episode Date: July 16, 2021Louis Oosthuizen jumps out to the lead, Spieth gets hot, Bryson says some dumb stuff, a Cobra rep claps back, and everything else from day 1 at Royal St. George's, including the golf course, Rory, JT,... the rest of the leaderboard, and a ton more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back.
Live from the Kill House, Sully here, Thursday, UK British Open Championship.
Presented by Her Majesty, the Queen.
TC is here, DJ Pies here.
We're actually live in Kill House.
We are.
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Where do we start?
I just want to start Bryce. I just saw the first comment was this pod sucks. And I was like, man, fuck you.
And I was like, oh, all right.
It's right here.
It's a good look.
I got it.
I see what you're doing, Dad, all right.
A serious spieth.
I'm buzzing.
I'm buzzing about speed.
What do you buzz about?
He's back, baby.
Everybody, I kept a list of everybody you're on it.
I kept a list of everybody that hated on him.
Don't do this.
Over the last two, three, four years.
Solid Denitem three times.
We're back, baby.
I went back and watched where I, if you're referring to in our season preview, I picked
him to finish over under in the World Rankings over 81 or whatever it was.
I will defend everything I said at that point.
All of those other bets missed.
You have little faith.
I was awful at betting at that point.
Now I'm the draft king. And I said basically, this is what I'm doing for you guys.
I am making this bet because I'm wrong on all of these
and I've made a sacrifice for all of you.
And no one has thanked me.
You should thank me for my service.
Unbelievable.
I need to go back and listen to see when the first time
that I picked him for real Saint George was,
because I think it was over.
We've been talking about it for years and years.
It's just, it's always validating, right?
When you have that feeling two years ago, you're like, man, everything I've seen about
this place, like, that makes too much sense.
And then they come play well in the first round.
And now even if he plays bad, like, we're already validating.
We're absolutely crowning.
And exactly.
Ready to crown him.
Ready to give him the clear of joke.
As hesitant as I am to give TC credit, we went and played Royal Burkdale in the spring
of 2017.
And we're on whole like three.
He's looking, he's like, this is a very speedy course.
Son of a bitch went out and won there.
Got an eye for that stuff.
Well, let's give over some platitudes.
Like, why is it a speedy course?
Why were we so far ahead on this one?
Why are we even talking about this for so long?
It's funky, you gotta hit golf shots.
And, and speed, you know, talked about on the podcast
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and trusts his body a lot more, you know,
instead of thinking technically and he spoke to that
and I think it has a serious effect in how he plays.
I mean, it just, and when it's not a driving contest,
like this guy's stock should go straight up to the top
and he's driving it actually really, really good.
It's not a driving distance contest.
Correct.
Because it is kind of a driving contest
and we could probably get into that.
I mean, you do have to put it in the fairway.
Or barely off of it.
But what you're saying is the typical week to week
what we see is it's a driving contest
who can hit it the farthest while being in the corridor.
Correct.
And that's not the case here.
Deja, I mean, Speed is essentially what you aspire to.
Exactly.
Being an artist and not never hitting a straight shot.
Truly birds of a feather.
I'm sure he'd agree with that.
I think we got a, we can't gloss over, like the potter was hot.
But that was what I was going to say.
It was like confident hot as in pouring it in the center with the right speed.
And I felt like in the majors this year, he's just been around edges, but not really getting
it to the whole with the right speed.
This was like no doubters.
He had one bad putty, missed a short birdie putt,
that actually was a lot closer than I think he thought
it was gonna be.
But this was like, my speed is dialled on these greens
and the putter is not a question mark right now.
It's an asset, which is a complete flip
from what we've seen in the first few majors this year.
I think Greller looked great.
You gotta point that out.
Yeah, I mean, he looked confident,
he looked totally in control.
He was guiding Jordan around all over the place. I think a big part of it,
maybe I'm assigning too much value to this, but we've talked about this Augusta in Capelua,
and there was that famous press conference he did where I think it was at Capelua where he was
talking about part of the reason I play so well is at Augusta is all the uneven lies, and I'm so
used to doing that and maybe other guys aren't, And that was the year he shot like 30 under it.
Cap allume was kind of saying like,
yeah, I think it's kind of the same thing.
It's got to be the same thing at Rolesan, Georgia's
with those fairways being outrageous.
And like you can't have a flat lie out there
pretty much anywhere I would think.
And you saw that with, I think a lot of the wedges
and even some of his wedges where it's like, man,
you know, someone has 104 yards
and they block it 50 feet, right?
Like, it's so hard to tell on TV,
like was that above their feet, below their feet?
What was going on?
Because that's where, like that's what that looks like.
When you have those uneven lies,
you're gonna hit those big misses in one direction, right?
But it doesn't, what I love about this is this
does not feel like we're holding on for dear life.
This is not roller coaster speed of like,
January and February of this year,
and this is like,
no, I feel like he's gonna hit the fairway
when he's standing over a shot.
And if he doesn't,
I feel like it's gonna be close enough
that he can recover.
And I just,
you can replay this back.
If we get to Sunday night,
we have 2016 masters all over again,
but I don't feel like we're gripping onto a hope right now.
This feels like a very, very real thing.
Five, four birdies on the front,
which is the more isolating side, more in the-
The fun side.
Yeah, and then on the flatter side,
only two birdies, and one of those was on a poor three.
So, I think there's some credence to that.
I agree.
I'm excited.
There's every reason to be excited.
I think as soon as we all heard the word cork
with St. George's, we were like, oh, it's speed.
Like, oh, it's speed.
It's got to be speed, right?
It's, you know, that throws Bryson out the window, I think, pretty much DJ.
You were spot on and saying, you know, with Ram, like, at course, where luck is a factor
and, you know, kind of keeping a cool head.
Ram did not fare so well.
It didn't seem to have any temper issues, I wouldn't say today, but did not have a great
day.
But, yeah, it just speed checks all the boxes here.
We should say, let's cover most of the golf stuff here
before we get to the big golfer,
which I'm sure we'll talk about for a while.
We'll figure out who to write.
The golf is not winning.
The speed is not winning, by the way.
Louis Hays is winning.
Do you want to talk about Louis?
Like, I think that's expected.
I think so too.
He's.
Speed is the favorite right now.
Really?
Like the betting favorite?
Yes. What are his odds now? He was plus 350 the favorite right now. Really? Like the betting favorite? Yes.
What are his odds now?
He was plus 350 in the last I saw.
And Louis plus 450.
That's God, what an insult to Louis.
Like, hey man, I know you play well
and finish in the top five of every one of these things
and you're leading, but like, no, no, we're good.
We'll say Louis hit only 42% of his,
or 43% of his fairways today.
So it could be,
That's surprising.
It could be using a little black magic.
It was bogey free today though.
Louis was-
His quote after the round was like,
I made no mistakes today.
So like, yeah, it was super stress free.
So that's where that number, it's so hard.
They don't have a stroke-scained data.
Like he could have, if you're a foot off these fairways,
you're not in trouble.
And almost can, you know, sometimes you can flight it better.
You can get a, you know, a flyer of some kind that you can help you run a ball up on the green
or something, take some mystery out of how it's going to bounce.
Um, I'll be honest, I missed a lot of his round. I didn't, I didn't wake up that early.
So it was, it was, I mean, it was what he said. Like it's all the highlights. Super stressed,
like super nice, just really freaking nice golf. Like just hitting into 25 nice
kind ofities though, too. Yeah too. Yeah climbing so speed. He was
he was a group behind speed right but it was who's got the
most money earned in majors. It's got to be fill in majors
that you haven't won. Most money earned. I mean, Louise
got to be second. You got to be up there right.
Perst start on a per start basis. So I'll say about
I would say like inflation or tiger tax adjusted.
It's probably jacked though, because he's got 17 or 20 runner ups.
So I was looking at those things about this,
because it was kind of like,
all right, do we write Louis Off?
And I was like, you know what, this is the one that he won.
I can't won this one by a lot in 2010.
This was his major starts prior to winning the open in 2010.
Cut, cut, cut, 73, cut, cut, cut, cut, one.
Prior to winning the open by seven.
And then he's finished runner-up six times
in Major since then.
It's always so weird when you go from like,
like, speed going and winning the masters
and then having the runner-ups afterward,
like in the collapse afterward,
doing it in reverse order.
Like, I, it doesn't mean he can't do it, right?
It's such a weird,
and then he won, and he went cut, cut right after he won, too.
Correct.
I mean, I think some of that, though,
is going to, he's got a, kind of a bizarre career arc, too,
and he doesn't, you know, self-eminent,
like he doesn't work very hard either.
I think it's hard, because I feel like we keep,
you know, Louis keeps contending,
so you just feel like he keeps saying the same stuff about him over and over.
And it's like, yeah, you know, when the golf courses get really precise and really proper,
like the same guy seemed to kind of show up.
And Louis obviously that guy.
And he said something afterwards just kind of reading through a bunch of transcripts.
Shout out to the RNA, by the way, they interviewed like 40 guys.
There's transcripts out the ass.
But get the CT pan's quote.
We'll get to CT pan who shot one over and was interviewed.
But reading Louis stuff and, you know,
there's only so many ways you can phrase this
and there's only so many ways you can ask
someone about like, hey, you know,
what's it like to not win?
Like why do you keep not winning these things?
And it's pretty simple to think about,
but I thought it was interesting just to think about
constantly like, are you getting beat in these things
or are you beating yourself in these things?
Was his quote and he's kind of, are you a dog or a killer?
Well, he was kind of like, man, I just like,
I've the last couple of times, I've gotten beat.
The guys have just played better.
And so I think, is there a signature
Louis choke moment?
No, that's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, I don't have one.
You gotta be, I would imagine you have to be so mentally tough
to actually keep telling yourself that
and to actually keep like reminding yourself of that.
But also you keep showing up, man.
So you must be, you must be there.
I don't know what the difference is.
And I'm still obviously skeptical.
If we go into Sunday and the back nine
and he's one ahead or he's one behind
or he's just kind of in the mix with a bunch of guys
It doesn't seem like he's gonna be the guy that comes out of that group
But like why could he not go out and grab the lead by four or five like I don't see that as as outrageous
Well, usually the formula for guy that finishes very close to the top of majors and doesn't win a lot is kind of great
Ballstrike or doesn't roll it very good
It's not the case.
Lee Westwood is who I'm thinking of,
who's just always up there for many, many, many years.
It's got like 40 career top 10s in majors
and never won one because he doesn't put good enough.
That's not the case of Louis.
Like he's number one on the tour and putting
and he's got like, maybe the greatest golf swing
in the world.
It really is a wonder how he hasn't won more of these
or why he only shows up for majors.
But for a while, we've been saying, there's only one guy out there that when they want
to play his best golf, he's the only one that gets better and that's Brooks.
And I think it's time to put Louis in that group now.
Yeah.
So, feeling pretty good having him in a couple of lineups.
So, I'm in first place and then we deal.
Can we do a big golf break?
Do we do skip past the leaderboard to do big golfers?
I mean Brian Harmon.
He's a stud.
He always does stud.
He has big teeth.
Big teeth.
He's got a lot of them.
He's open preview.
He always does stuff.
I think you guys are glossing over McKenzie Hughes a little bit.
66 to open it up.
McKenzie Hughes turned it into the song of the summer here.
He's just, he's everywhere.
Brian Harmon is an interesting one. And I think he's, you know, Aaron Hills was kind of famously
like one of those, hey, this isn't gonna be
the driving contest that we already described
and Brian Harman showed up in finished second, right?
And so his kind of thoughts after were if he can,
I guess his iron play just hasn't been very good
and that's kind of been the difference maker for him.
He seems like he's been driving it well and putting it well and finally figured out something
with the irons this week. So I'm kind of curious. I know he
missed a cut last week at John Deere, which was a place that
you know, seems like he's kind of cleaned up at, but I wonder if
going through and thinking through some of these guys, I wonder
how much like course experience is going to be a just getting a ton
of reps at this place is going to be a thing. I know spieth got
there early, I know harmieth got there early, I know Harmon got there early,
I know Hovlin got there early,
just kind of, I'm interested to,
interested to see how that kind of place is.
What did Hovlin do everyone that,
the BMW international?
Because he, I think he took,
like he didn't play the Scottish,
did he go home to Norway and then just come to,
who knows?
I'm excited.
And then, so six of the top eight guys, right now, six of the eight guys at four or at minus
four are better play in the morning today.
So I think that's something to keep an eye on for tomorrow.
You know, of course, Benjamin A. Bear and Web Simpson who felt like a kind of an obvious
pick for this place, but he's been just playing shitty.
You know, and then Stu Sink, I think he was mentioned on our previous show.
Yeah, Stu Sink, I don't know what, we're not going to do a Ryder Cup segment, but like,
it might be a predator.
Kind of starting to think about it, man.
And honestly, I've been talking to the podcast with him about it and how he was talking about
how he, you know, I think your issue with Stu's always bitty, I kind of, he kind of is
six, four babies, the ball around.
Well, he's not doing that anymore.
And he finally said that he's like, yeah, I'm like six, four.
I was hitting it with like a glancing blow
for a really long time.
As soon as he said, glancing blow is like, oh my God,
I'm totally hitting it with a glancing blow right now.
One, and two, it was like that just like really resonated
with me.
I don't know if he's squaring up the ball this while.
Like why wouldn't he be climbing up the leaderboard?
He hits it so damn straight,
and now he's hitting it pretty far.
So that's impressive.
I think we're burying the biggest story of the day,
which was the putt that Will's allotor is hit.
Oh my God.
I don't say this lightly
and I'm not saying it with hyperbole.
I don't know that I've ever seen a worse putt.
And I don't even mean from a pro golfer.
Like that was like, dude,
that looks like someone who's never like golfer before. Like that was. And he a worse putt. And I don't even mean from a pro golfer. Like that was like, dude, that's,
that looks like someone who's never been like,
golf before.
Like that was,
and he rerouted it.
And believe it, it looks like he almost like,
someone said he, he, it wasn't the backstroke,
he hit it with like a downstroke.
Like it almost just like dropped the putter on top.
That was, that's the kind of,
putt you would never see any of your friends do
because if your friend has that bad a yips,
you give him that putt, right?
We don't make Randy putt those when he said it's worse.
But what do we do?
We video.
Yeah, we do.
Cause it's good.
What does that putt look like if he's not arm walking?
Right, can't be admit.
Is he winking?
He's got to try this two same thing.
Like, he talks, he like has the stutter
before he hits a short putt.
He's like just to get the motion going.
You got, if you do that, that is not a one off.
That was unlike, I don't know, to your point, I don't know if I've ever seen a pro do that.
Seemingly, he's kind of a little bit of a funk here, the last, you know, basically
since the Masters has it been, is it just been putting related?
You didn't hit it really well, or is it?
I'm not sure. I haven't tracked it that closely, but it doesn't seem related? You didn't hit it really well, or is it? I'm not sure.
I haven't tracked it that closely,
but it doesn't seem like he's hitting it as good
as he was when he got real hot,
but I don't think it's not like a,
no, Aaron Wise putting a shoe thing going on.
It looks like he was playing stymies
and trying to hit like the hook hot off the toe.
Which would have been a really cool,
oh my, that's a great open champion.
I started to get mad when they cut to the
putt. I'm like, stop showing putt. We don't need to see this. There is no way I
don't think about that putt the next time I'm standing over a two foot. Oh,
thanks. No, I will be too. No, everybody has hundreds of thousands of people.
I guess maybe it all just kind of balanced out of everybody's thinking about
there's a putt. Nobody's thinking about it. There's a putt that Randy always
references that I hit on Deaphosky Island one time.
I was puttin this satellite dish-looking thing.
This was back in probably 2006, 2007, and we're out of Daphosky Island off the coast of
Hilton Head, and I had like a two and a half foot putt, and I missed it by like two and
a half feet.
It didn't even come within foot and a half foot putt and I missed it, but like two and a half feet. Like it didn't even come within
foot and a half of the hole.
And like Randy just, it was Randy
and his brother and a good bar.
And they would just like started laughing
and just like it took him like two minutes
to hit their shots because they were so shocked by it.
Was that the one that had the sound of Randy's?
Like I can still hear the sound.
Yeah.
There was a putt that Billy or that Kyle Stanley hit one time at Harbor Town.
He was literally the only time I've ever heard that sound other than then was when you
hit that putt.
I'm trying to think of, and there's probably didn't hit you.
If you didn't watch all the coverage, this might not have hit you your highlights package.
It's worth seeking out.
Just Google or Twitter search or whatever, wills out towards putt. Or avoiding at all costs. Or avoid it. That's a trigger warning. You know, if you seeking out. Just Google our Twitter search or whatever, wills out to our spot. Or avoiding it all.
Or avoid it.
Yeah, that's a trigger warning.
You know, you seek out.
No, it's something.
Check it out,
because you're gonna see it at some point down the line.
Watch it on your terms.
Be prepared.
It's like a late horrific leg injury.
It's like the joke thighs.
Yeah, exactly.
That's what I was like,
yeah, that was where I was going next.
I'm trying to think of,
we don't have to keep belabor this.
I'm trying to think of what else is even in the conversation.
Like, Zalatorz had another, he's had one at,
when was that?
I've done a full my eyes,
because the thing was Zalatorz is like,
these are, you know, these are puts that aren't,
they're so ugly.
Whereas the ones that Moorakawa does,
the ones that he misses,
are like they're
fully committed, right?
And it's a normal stroke.
He just misses it.
Whereas, it's all a torus.
Like, this is, it looks horrific in the course of the action.
Neurological damage going on when he takes it back.
It's not good.
I had one PGA.
He had a full on Yip at the PGA.
And then his first putt at the masters this year, he had like an eight footer for birdie that he left like that's right. That was good. That was good stuff
But all I remember that I could even put in the same conversation someone just mentioned in the comments too was the
Ernie L's on number one at the at Augusta a couple years ago
But that wasn't that was just misses. Yeah, you know like a ton of misses
It wasn't like it couldn't move the putter right that? That was tough to watch, but the zalator thing was okay.
And he still shot under par.
I know.
I don't know.
I'm at a legit walk-off.
Kind of evened out.
He hold one out, hold a wedge out.
Like, why do you even want to be in connection at that point
after you just did that?
Imagine having that put the win.
Oh my God, get out of here.
Can we please do Bryson now?
Yes.
Before we do that,
um, for me personally, it seems like Bryson needs, I would say he needs to practice more, right?
Like a little bit more, some more more needs to go into it. I don't know if I see where you go with
that, but I do not think that the four are not going to blame the equipment, right? Let's,
let's quick cross-contain. I think he's probably on the range right now. I don't think he needs
to practice more. Practice in the wrong stuff. There you go. War is not the right thing.
That's automatically the assumption when people have when they think they need to just
go pound balls, practice more. DJ, what's your quote about working out? You have the great
you. We're talking about our friends at golf blueprint in a right now, if you don't know,
who set put these together, these great customized practice plans for you. I think the gist of it was, you know,
it was less of a quote more of an idea,
but if you're, I'm a bad, bad person,
it just go into the gym and aimlessly like,
you know, I'll do that machine first.
I'm like, let pull that.
Yeah, I'll do that for eight minutes.
And now I guess, I don't know,
there's nobody on that machine,
I guess I'll go do that one.
It works a lot better when you have a plan.
When you have some sort of structure to what you're doing,
it's a little less arbitrary.
It turns out that you get a little better results that way.
This is exactly that.
It's like a personal trainer for your golf game.
It gives you specific games to play on the range,
on the putting green, on the chipping green, whatever it is,
and just gives you very focused things
that you want to improve on.
Important note, they do all the work for the members.
So all you have to do is show up, put in the work. I know some potential members thinking they had to provide them
with a ton of data and information and then track a ton. They just want you to know they take
all the work off your shoulders, make practice efficient and focused. At golf blueprint.com
you can get $20 off the first month membership for anyone signing up the next week. That gets
refunded to you after signing up. There's no code needed for that. Again, golf blueprint.com, hand up. I haven't been practicing at all, but I'm excited to get
back into it this fall once it cools off here in Jacksonville.
But can I just say this about the membership? It's the golf blueprint membership. It's the
kind of membership you can show up. You can always get some practice. You can always
get the water pressure in the golf blueprint locker room is fantastic. It's again, you can always
get a game. It's a true members club. Yeah, but it's again, you can always get a game.
It's a true members club.
Yeah, I agree with you.
Bryson De Shambon hits four fairways today.
The driver sucks.
Shoots one over.
Straight up, the driver sucks.
Literally straight up, the quote,
the driver sucks.
It's not a good face for me,
and we're still trying to figure out
how to make it good on the mishits.
I'm living on the razor's edge like I've told people for a long time.
End quote. Is that not the most 20-21 bullshit when it comes to equipment ever?
The mishits are going too far off line.
Yeah, there's a lot to unpack. I don't know where we want to start here.
I don't know if we want to start with the fact that he also missed a lot of fairways without his driver, with non-driver.
That was my big takeaway from watching feature groups
this morning, because he was paired with the Golden Child.
Saw a lot of Brysons, a lot of Brysons around.
But when he started it, he's like, yeah,
the driver sucks.
I'm like, okay, maybe he's talking about,
I swear to God, it is very fun to make fun of Brysons,
because he gives you a lot of reasons to make fun of him. I don't go out of my way fun to make fun of Bryson because he gives you a lot of reasons to make fun of him.
I don't go out of my way looking to make fun of Bryson.
And it's, I'm not gonna say I don't.
But when he's just such a good kid.
When he's going to that, and everybody's tweeting the whole
like, oh, the driver sucks the driver sucks.
I'm like, oh, maybe he just means like me with the driver.
Like, I'm not, you know, I'm not hitting the driver great right now.
Like, the driver sucks right now for me.
No. That was jet, that was not good. That was not now, like the driver sucks right now for me. No.
That was just not a good face for me.
It's not a good face.
Eddie, yeah, he just went in
and this has been going on since 2016.
We can't get it figured out.
It's all about you can't draw the ball anymore.
Spin rate, 2018, $100.
Everybody thinks it's this, it's actually this.
It's literally the physics and the way
that they build heads now.
Nobody hits draws anymore.
We're at $2,800 spin, whatever, It's not. It's not the right design. We've been trying to fix it.
And like, all right. So then we get, I don't know if we go there, go next to the follow-up from this,
which, you know, people are kind of freaking out about it. Ben Schoeman, a cobra, Puma rep,
who also caddy for Bryson. Not just any cobra rep. Yeah.
Caddy Forum at the rocket mortgage says quote, this is from golf week, of course.
This was all mutual, by the way. Yeah, this is mutual. They mutually came out with this
statement, which I'm surprised that, you know, it's disrespectful that he didn't go to golf.com
with this stuff because I imagine he'll be, I imagine he'll be giving some quotes later.
And disrespectful to do it during this week an event that mr
Palmer has won but uh...
everybody is bending over backwards we've got multiple guys in r&d who are cating
computer aided design this and cating that trying to get this in that into the pipeline faster price and knows it
it's just really really painful when he says something that stupid
he has never really been happy, ever.
Like it's very rare where he's happy.
Now he's in a place where he's swinging a five-degree driver
with 200 miles an hour ball of speed.
Everyone is looking for a magic bullet.
Well, the magic bullet becomes harder and harder to find
when the faster you swing it and the lower your loft gets.
So when he's talking about a razor's edge,
we're not gonna be able to help that.
He said, at the Shambos speed,
every shortcoming in his swing or mishit
is exponentially magnified.
We're trying to stay ahead of it,
so we'll place an order for 10 prototype heads.
And then literally, as soon as that order is placed,
usually within a week or two,
we might be ordering more of something else.
The idea is to always have a few driver heads for Bryson that can act as a starting point
when he wants to experiment or try something new.
Still not done.
No, no, no, it gets much more cutting to the core here.
It's like an eight-year-old that gets mad at you.
They might fly off the handle and say, I hate you, but then you go, whoa, no, you don't.
We know as adults that they really don't mean that, and I know that if I got him cornered right now and said, what the hell did you
say that for? He would say that he was mad. He didn't really mean to say it that
harshly. He knows how much everyone bends over backwards for him, but it's still not
cool. And he's a nice person at heart because he says he's a nice person. He's humble.
He's actually very, he's actually very humble. Oh my God. And he has four. This is the greatest, this is the greatest thing.
I, first of all, the snap, the cobra guy
going on the record very quickly.
Unbelievable awesome.
Yeah, massive, massive.
Which goes just speaks to what the people around him
think of him.
Like, would this have happened, you know,
to any other player?
Like, I honestly feel I'm a feeling we're close to like a,
like total walk out on team Bryson
What if the dude I already had a guy quit like that's not unreasonable Not like it was like it was it was a little though. It was mutual. Well, that was that was mutual
They're just looking for the right time. Yeah
Eight-year-olds dude eight-year-olds what if golf dot-com quits on him?
I just didn't even know I didn't even know where you start.
Other than I thought the equipment rep had,
that's truth serum shit right there.
Like that's what we're begging for constantly.
I have no idea if he's gonna keep his job.
I have no idea how that's gonna go.
I should give him a raise.
I imagine it's gonna be a stressful day over it.
Team Cobra Puma, but unbelievable. like Kudos for just laying it all out
and being like, dude, you know what, you cannot shit on us.
Like we are doing everything we possibly can.
And by the way, what you're asking for is pretty much
like physically impossible.
No, no, no, no, I'm sure Bryson's
like one of their easiest guys to work with.
I'm sure.
So reading that too, I was like, wait, why would you want to do,
like none of this is like marketable,
retail-wise for anyone. Like this is like working on a why would you want to do, like none of this is like marketable retail-wise for anyone.
Like this is like working on a formula one car, you know,
and like, why would you be breaking your back over a guy
that clearly is not a, he's not helping you sell clubs.
He's certainly not like, like, you know,
the irons they play are the one-length irons.
I'd love to know how many sets of fucking one-length irons.
I bet they sold a bunch right away.
And they're probably in the, and I'm guessing they played against sports.
Probably tapered off, but I also, you know, I think this is probably the best argument
against bifurcation.
Also that I've heard is like, like that's what equipment companies are going to turn
into, right?
It's already bifurcated in a certain sense too, right?
It is, but like when it gets officially bifurcated in a certain sense too. It is, but when it gets officially bifurcated
and their job is just basically like,
hey, make these clubs that we also put a bunch of money
into making these clubs that we also can't sell,
is a pretty good, yeah,
I see why the equipment companies would be against that.
That doesn't sound like a good idea.
Which I'm sure he is helping them sell clubs,
I mean that literally, but he's not like a good guy
to have your brand associated with. You know, it's not like, I mean that literally, but like he's not like a good guy to have your brand associated with.
You know, it's not like, I don't know.
I know we're sponsored by an equipment company
and this, you know, we can rear back and fire
in this scenario, but like this is very obvious situation.
Well, like Patrick Reed, like me, he had the same,
like he had a similar back and forth with Calaway.
And Calaway dropped him.
They were basically like, you'll fuck you man.
Like, you know, which like, it's happened before.
And you know, there's certain guys that just aren't good.
Like it's a, it truly is a team.
It's a back and forth.
There's a, there's a give and take.
And it's very, you gotta, you gotta communicate stuff
very well.
And it's expensive as shit too.
Like all these CAD, CAD stuff, the milled stuff,
all the molds, all that shit is like talking
like hundreds of thousands of dollars for, you know, just even a couple months of this,
much less.
I think there's a bit.
I think the big one that like really irks me and maybe it shouldn't, but it sounded like
even in the eight year old quote, it almost sounded like he was kind of apologizing for
a little bit.
And I've heard that so much from Bryson.
And it is, it's weird that it seems like the only people you hear this from
are the people that are on Bryson's payroll, which is like, what a coincidence.
It seems like everybody else is, you know, I tweeted something, but it's like, man,
it's so, I get so sick of hearing like the media and tournament volunteers and sponsors
and his equipment rep and people close to him and his caddies and other players
and other caddies and rules and his equipment rep and people close to him and his caddies and other players and other caddies and
rules and
You know blah blah blah like I I'm so sick of all those people trying to convince me this guy's a jerk
but like
You guys are the problem. It's not him at some point. It's like dude. We're not talking about a 14 year old kid here
No, we're talking about a 27 year old dude who's been like a famous person for a couple years now. It's like it reminds me a lot of, you know, when he everybody has like that
friend from college or whatever where it's like, man, Jimmy's like kind of an asshole.
No, come on. Like that's just Jimmy. He's like, no, yeah. Yeah, he's an asshole. Like that's
that's not a personality trait. Like you don't get to hang your hat on like, yeah, that's
just him. You know, he's just, he's just, you know, kind of a petulant child. That's just
how he is.
Which, what would you say like the percentage of the
petulant shit that the public knows about
to this point about price?
Five percent.
I was gonna say we went from 10 to 12 today.
It's crazy.
I mean, we're like, there's all sorts of stuff
that we don't say for whatever reason,
just cause, you know, this like,
source wise, you don't wanna air out the source
or you don't have a second source,
but it's just like, when everybody's telling you these stories,
even if 10% of them are true, it's like,
holy shit, this guy's a fucking lunatic.
Yeah.
Which like, caddies don't quit on top five money-making bags
unless a player is a very clearly lunatic.
And I guess I'll also say like,
I don't want to be too high in mighty.
I am not a super famous person who's in the spotlight
all the time, who constantly has a microphone
in front of their face, and who knows what it's like
to be bricin'.
Who's like, I'm not totally excusing it.
I'm just saying, if you are gonna act like that man,
this is the shit that's gonna happen.
And when you're a equipment company
who's paying you presumably millions of dollars
is turning on you and farting in your face in the media,
like yeah, you've probably done some bad shit.
And that is maybe a good time to look in the media.
Like all this shit that, like the stuff
that you was saying earlier this week
where, you know, I'm famous and I didn't bring this on,
like yo, you're making a highlight tape
of what you did during COVID
or you're on these Twitch streams talking shit about Brooks.
All this shit is self, is brought on yourself.
It's self-inflicted, right?
Well, and it's not that hard for normal people to be like,
like if I'm, if I'm, when he's gotta have somebody
in his ear that, you know, he's willing to listen to.
I'd walk off the course and say this, Dave Bryson.
You know, I kind of implemented this style of play.
Some weeks I knew it wasn't gonna work that great.
Today it didn't work great.
I believe it can work great tomorrow,
but yeah, I kind of got to hand it to me a little bit today.
I got humbled a little bit by this golf course,
you know, tried overpowering places
and it didn't really work.
I'm gonna go work on the range a little bit
and hopefully get things straight now for tomorrow.
How freaking hard is that?
Like, don't get me wrong. I love that he opens up his ass
wholeness and gives us the content of what he's truly
thinking, but like, this isn't that hard.
Like when Tim clearly quit on him, go to the mic and say
like, you know, instead of trying to lie to us and say
it was mutually agreed and this was always the plan.
Like fucking bullshit.
Just go up and say like, you know, I'm really tough guy
to work for and like I probably put him through a lot, you know, I'm really tough guy to work for.
And like I probably put them through a lot.
And you know, I look him back on it.
I probably could have handled things a lot differently.
I wish him nothing but luck.
And I want of course, wanna go hog hunting with him.
I'll hog hunting with him.
I think he's...
BXG!
It seems like he's just a sociopath.
Yeah, straight up.
So, you know, I mean, I don't know,
like, but it's like when all corners of the golf industry,
except for seemingly brand-o, who called him, referred to, he said, you know, Steve Jobs
was also, was also difficult to work with, which was very similar to like the Michael
Scott, like, you know, also didn't go to college, little Braun James.
Like, Van Gogh caught off his ear.
Yeah, you gotta, don't forget about that.
Does Steve Jobs have a college degree?
Uh, no, he does not.
Okay.
What's a good question?
Maybe he prannles on us up the carousets
to run, um, run deeper.
Who knows?
Also from California.
Wow.
Makes you think.
Uh,
Oh, God.
Uh, just, I mean, it all comes back to the word chode.
It always, it's the word choked. It always, it really does.
He's the dynamic choked.
Yeah.
So, but I will say the people that, because this happens every time that he doesn't play
well, the people, you know, some people come out of the woodwork and say, all right, you
guys finally get admitted like what he did doesn't work.
And it's like, no, no, it does work.
It's just not going to work every week all the time.
Like shit still has to go right.
It's still timing based.
It's I would say it's somewhat work today.
Like the fact that he shot one over he shot 78 today.
Yes, exactly.
Wrote down 71.
Like it looked horrible.
Yet the way he manages the ball,
it there were definitely some spots
where a little bit of sense would have made a lot of sense
of just dude hit it right here.
You're still a really good iron player and a really good putter.
You don't have to take on everything with drivers.
It's like your two iron goes as far as other guys' drivers.
That's an advantage in and of itself, right?
And I think that was the issue.
He said all the, his press conference, I thought it was pretty interesting going into the
week.
He was asked about Tigard Hoyleik and,
hey, it was that, you know, is that a model
that's in play for you this week?
And he said 100% absolutely.
Like, I can't hit that many drivers here.
I got it like, I got to lay back and watch it.
He's not having a self-control.
He didn't hit driver until at least number seven.
I don't think today.
And this swing was just awful.
Yeah, he was just missing fairways.
Like, I think he'd only hit one fairway up until like number 10
or something like that.
And like it just was off.
He hit driver off too,
because John would call it right into question.
And he was like,
I don't know why he's in driving.
There's nowhere to go.
Maybe I miss self-control then, right?
I don't know.
Or I was gonna say maybe he's missing with other clubs
so then he kind of forces his hand a little bit
and then he hits driver
and then he's complaining about driver.
Like I don't know what it was, but. he's missing with other clubs, so then he kind of forces his hand a little bit and then he hits driver and then he's complaining about driver.
Like, I don't know what it was, but can we agree though that the data really works for
this style of play back in the States, like a little PGA tour golf course.
And I would say like it works a lot more than it doesn't.
Yes.
Like bomb it far.
You're better with wedge out of the rough than don't worry about the fairways that much.
But I don't think you can properly account for all of that when we have such a small sample size with links
golf, right?
And the rough being so variant from golf course to golf course, the pins and the wind,
how, you know, where you need to position yourself to get at some of these pins and all
this stuff, it's just not that simple, right?
The randomness of the lies and the rough, the real punishment that can come in with drives
and the rough here, like it's just not bomb and gouge. I'm sure there's a bunch
of people out there that will show shoved data and say he's doing the right thing, heading
drivers far down as possible. But it's just not as calculable on Link's golf. Of course,
don't have anything to support that, but that is everything my eye tells me about it.
And again, that's someone that subscribes to his theory for 99% of the golf he plays.
It just seems like there's more variance
they can happen, right?
There's more, you know, I'm curious,
like why is he trying to hit 207?
Swing ball speed on the range yesterday.
Like is that necessary during a major week?
Like that's adding another,
let's say he starts swinging faster
and faster and faster during a major week.
Is that adding another variable?
I don't mean to be laughing but a lot of people in the comments
Oh a weird bid has broken out where people are are imitating good to
Team Haas gene the driver sucks. There's nothing I can do
So props everybody who's doing that that's making me laugh really hard
But I was gonna say to your point, maybe that's not the answer.
It's been you to do it.
There are golf courses on this road
where this style of play would make a lot more sense.
I just don't think St. George is it.
I mean, especially not St. George's this year
where the rough is notoriously thick
and not like I have a lot of prior experience,
but that was what they said all day.
And that's why they had to slow it on the fairways
and slow it on the greens a little bit.
And it was all because that rough doesn't usually
look like that.
And and spief talked about it.
A bunch of guys talked about it.
Like, dude, you gotta hit the fairway.
And there's run outs too.
There's not like straight, like that fifth hole
is super interesting to watch.
Yeah.
Like how difficult that played today.
Suez Canalhole, you know, if you don't win,
I think you can get it in the canal or Bryson could have.
So, which he hit four iron there, I think like four iron, three wood or something.
Like going back, I think, you know, Tori doesn't have a whole lot of dog legs, Wingedfoot
didn't have a whole lot of dog legs.
There's certain courses that fit him better, even just, you know, as versus no rough.
As Amal said in the comments, you know, see how it works at St. Andrews next year.
Yeah.
I'm not exaggerating.
That might be, yes.
Well, I think we're gonna be,
it'll be a different tune.
By the way, people are asking
if I got a haircut.
I did not get a haircut.
It's flowing.
I look like Cam Smith, baby.
All right, back to the leaderboard.
Point, point, point.
What can I do?
Can I put guys at three under?
Because I think the guys are,
there's a bunch of dogs at three under.
Andy Sullivan, Justin Harding, Danny Willett, Jack Sr., Justin Rose, all at three under.
They're not dogs.
You guys are like where's he coming from?
Jeff Flur, Warikawa, Fleetwood.
Those three guys, I guess Warikawa's off 825 tomorrow.
Fleetwood's off 1009. I think those two guys are going to come out dig in.
So let's just trivia for you guys. Speed is plus 350. Louis Ustaz and plus 450. Who's
who's who's third on the sheet? Who's the third the the the the best odds of more cow
more cow a plus 1600 really. And hoblins behind him. Oh, one's way back there. Let's do it sink right now
Stu sink is plus 2800 maybe jump on that that's I don't know man
He's he's looked really good for eight months capka plus 1800 Rory plus 2000
What's DJ web plus 2000 DJ plus 2000 Fleetwood fleet would plus two thousand harm and plus two thousand and uh... hovelins twenty five hundred
jetha twenty five hundred zander twenty eight
rose thirty rom thirty five
DJ i think you had something about the your dog in your slagging off the uh...
the uh... english bloke's
those private take i just you know i hit me this morning they're going to
talk about the last Englishman to win,
being Nick Faldow.
It's like, man, why don't more English players win the open?
That's, I know that, that feels like a,
you know, I feel like that was a big take
like in the early 90s, kind of like before Faldow won,
but it's, it's wild, man.
It doesn't make any sense.
And it's not like, why, you know,
why don't you guys grow up playing this?
You got some of the best players in the world.
Like, just seem to dominate at the rider copy.
You're good in big moments.
Where the fuck aren't you winning the open?
It's not like why don't more English guys win Wimbledon?
Cause there's just not that many English.
There's a lot of like, there's really good English players.
Yeah.
So listen, I mean, make you.
Thank you for it.
Maybe too.
I'm sure nobody will have any reaction to that.
Maybe team Rose needs a look inward.
That's true.
Not to get back to Bryson, but I forgot to shout out
the deep fried egg video from today,
which is socks, the poop commercial,
with Ricky and a bunch of influencers,
and so and so and so and saying like,
yeah, beat that.
Beat that and the dubdovers, it cut to Bryson.
The driver's socks. That was really good.
Oh god, that was good.
Let's talk about the golf course.
Let's do that.
What did you guys think?
I thought it was delightful.
I had, you know, we talked about our qualms with the setup a little bit with, you know,
some of the rough in spots, but.
Well, I don't know if we super unpacked it though.
I mean, like just, you know, if people didn't see that much or whatever, I mean, it was, it was noticeably slow, right?
And not just the greens. I mean, it was, guys, I'm going to, I'm going to sit this one out.
I don't need to talk about golf course setup during the week of a major. I'll talk about it on the
recap pod, but I'm not going to belay over the point. I have a fairly optimistic, that's one minute later. Another more thing, yeah another thing.
Fuck that guy, he should be fired.
I think I was pessimistic going into it.
I was like, oh, this is gonna be a bummer to watch,
you know, balls kind of slowing up in the rough
and balls, or in the fairway and balls,
you know, not really bouncing on the greens.
I actually had a really good time watching it.
I think it makes sense.
A little more sense than I would have liked to admit yesterday
as to why they slowed it down.
I don't know if you got that sense at all.
Just, I know that's kind of the one thing that,
if you talk to any supers or groundscrew people,
like that is the really hard thing to do
is to maintain that, like, wispy,
lintzy, rough,
and make it thin enough that guys can hit out of there,
thin enough that it's hard to judge,
thin enough that it's just not a massive penalty.
And so I don't know how you could,
I think they just really, really struggled with that
with how much rain they got.
I don't know, I don't have a concern
that they have watered the fairways, right?
I think Wes Lumberz did.
Wes Woods quote was that he said they'll probably going to throw some water on the
fairways to stop that happening to stop balls rolling up into the rough.
So I don't know if they haven't because I know they've been dealt some tough
cards when it comes to the weather, the rain, and just the general softens to the
course. I don't think balls backspinning is the fault of the of the RNA to this
point.
They're just they they have just,
the hand they've been dealt.
They are fine letting courses bake out.
And this golf course is different though.
You can't carnewst it because balls literally
just won't stop in the fairway.
And then with the roughest thing as it is,
Westwood's quote is just like lays out
everything totally perfect about the issues.
So looking ahead at the forecast,
it looks like the forecast,
a little bit warmer tomorrow,
20 degrees Celsius tomorrow, same wind.
Can you convert that to Fahrenheit?
That's what, that's like 72-ish.
About 70.
Times two plus 30s, that's how my goats in rule.
And then Saturday ramps up,
it's the same wind tomorrow, 13 miles an hour out of the south.
It looks like pretty much steady the whole day.
Maybe starts a little bit earlier in the day.
And then Saturday up to 22 degrees Celsius
and then Sunday up to 25 degrees Celsius.
So up into the, up near 80.
That was gonna be one other thing,
is I think even if they had put some water on it
or even if they do early in the week
or kind of try to make rounds one and two
play as similar as possible,
which I know they try to do as much as possible.
I still think it'll firm up over the weekend.
And also I hadn't really thought about this
until Spieth's press conference today,
but he was talking about how it's a little bit more
of an aerial links than people probably realize.
And how there's a lot of bunkers kind of guarding
the front of the greens, there's a lot of false fronts.
And it's just not really the kind of place
where you are bouncing it five clubs worth
into these greens.
It's just not that kind of place.
So it's like a little bit in that regard.
That's exactly what he said.
And it was that.
I'll be even hoi-like a little bit on certain holes
in those. I think that'll help. That just kind of changed my thinking on it a little bit in that regard. That's exactly what he said. And it was that, probably even Holi Lake, a little bit uncertain holes in those,
I think, that just kind of changed my thinking on it
a little bit where it's like,
yeah, that actually kind of does make sense
if it's a little softer.
And it was really fun to watch today.
So I loved it.
It's okay, it's fine.
They didn't, again, this is not a set up comment.
This is a weathered Delta.
I'd like to see, honestly, I like a few more par-fives.
Like I think seeing like 260 shots with helping wind,
trying to avoid pop bunkers, getting the club right,
getting it landed right.
Like watching shots into 14 today,
I thought was really fun.
Yeah, there's not enough of that.
It's a lot of wedges.
It's a lot of aerial shots to your point.
And I like watching the ball roll and link scolven.
I like watching to see, can you thread it
between these two bunkers and get it to take that
and funnel.
And there's just not a lot of that on this golf course.
Yeah.
Again, the floor is so high for the open road.
There's not a bad course on it.
I just, I was, I'm right where I came into the week, right?
It didn't, it didn't impress me a whole lot today.
And it didn't, it wasn't bad viewing by any stretch.
Based on what they said about wing foot with, you know, losing the course and losing the
greens, the conditions, I mean, 75, 80, you know, 75, 80 degrees with a little bit of wind.
I mean, this place might be rolling 14 or 15 right in the week if they don't throw
some water on these greens, right?
But you're not going to say anything about the setter.
No, I'm not, you know, I'm not. I'm not until the
wing foot super steps down until he resigns as he promised. Many, many people asking if you'll
apologize for Leash. I'll apologize tomorrow after he misses the cut. If, if and when he misses the
cut. I also, I do want to apologize that I left out Marcel Seam in the group at three under.
He, he's been on hit yeah, Ben on's fine
But Marcel Seem his aesthetic was dial today. He's great
Two names we haven't mentioned can you guess them hoblin Dustin nope Sergio will also accurate but
Capca yeah one under I know we haven't gone all it got my part on the board
English bloke at 200 Paul Casey roaring
I don't want to talk a Roy there. In English, bloke at 200, Paul Casey. Rory. I don't wanna talk a Rory.
It's not, there's nothing to talk about.
That's kind of where I wanna preface this with truly,
like we all love Rory.
We all love watching Rory.
We all want Rory.
Maybe too much.
We all want Rory to win this week.
I hope he goes and shoots 62 tomorrow.
But until that happens, man,
like I don't know what else there,
I don't know what there's to say.
Like he just is not...
It's the same shit every major.
Yeah, it's not there.
I don't know why he's coming up to 20 yards short, like repeatedly over and over on all these shots.
I don't know what I don't know what's going on, man.
But it's, yeah, to your point, Tron, it's just, it's not very fun to watch, man.
It's just very frustrating.
Yeah, he's like a, you know, he's like a teenager that just won't listen right now
and like, I'm gonna give him tough love.
Yeah, I'm gonna go see, I guess,
I guess, I'm gonna sum it up.
I think he got, it looked a lot worse than even par today.
I think it was in, but I don't know,
I'm, this is, this is,
Well, trying to and I were joking about it
when we watched it.
It's like, he, you know, he makes that put on 18 for birdie.
And ever it's like, oh, it feels like this momentum.
It's like, oh, he's always six back after round one.
What are we fucking do it back after round one?
He's like one of those talented golfers of all time.
And we're patting him on the head for being fucking six back after round one.
I'm not, I wasn't falling for anything.
I'm not running that way.
I kind of like sums it all up.
That's where it's like, you know, like it's, it's not that I don't want for anything. I'm not running that right. I just feel like that kind of like sums it all up. That's where it's like, you know, like,
it's not that I don't want them to show them
because I just like, Rory, it's because like,
I know I've seen this movie before
and I don't want to get my hopes up
and I don't want, like, it's just wasted energy.
Yeah, right?
He just does not seem to have
that sustained hot streak in him anymore.
Like, there is no Rory coming.
Like, I hit no worry coming.
Like, I hit send on the GIF, like two birdies too early
because I just wanna be able to use it.
And even like, not even sustained hot streak,
but just being able to like,
tread water in the right spots to keep, you know,
just to not lose the momentum,
but, you know, just to keep it going
or keep your head above water for a little bit
until the hot streak comes back.
Somebody had a comment here,
referencing something Andy Johnson said on the Friday pod,
they said Andy brought up a good point.
Maybe he peaked at 24.
And I bring that up because I don't know
if we've ever actually talked about that idea,
at least not publicly, is like,
I will never forget Patrick Harrington,
like it is so obvious when you hear it,
but it sounds so harsh,
because nobody talks like this,
especially in press conferences or publicly,
and someone was asking them kind of like,
hey, you know why?
Why'd you win all those majors in a row,
but then now you haven't really done anything,
and he was kind of like, yeah, I mean,
that was probably just like the best stretch of golf
in my whole life, and I'm probably not gonna do better
than that, so, you know, after I, I'm still working,
but that's probably my peak, and I don't know. Rory, you know, after I, like, I'm still working, but, you know, that's probably my peak. And I, I don't know, Rory, like, the whole brain would say, like, no, no, he's
still young and he's, he's fit and he's great and he still hits the ball great. But, yeah,
maybe that's it, man. Maybe he just, I think everybody else caught, kind of caught up,
too. Maybe that was, maybe that was the stretch.
I don't know.
We talked about that when he said the quote was like, yeah, maybe I was just better at
golf back then. That was alarming, I thought.
And maybe we've talked about that.
Rory might be too aware, right?
I mean, probably back then he was young and dumb
and running around, you know,
doing a lot of different things
and winning a lot of golf tournaments at the same time.
And you don't think about your mortality at that point
when you start building up scar tissue.
When you win four and four years and then you go two years without winning one, now you're thinking about point when you start building up scar tissue when you win four and four years
And then you go two years without winning one now you're thinking about it when you tee it up in the ninth major since you've won one
Now you're thinking about the 10th. Well shit now. It's been 16. Yeah, all right
Soon enough like it's seven years later and it hasn't been hasn't been the same guy
It's not like he's been close. It's not Louis Ustazins. It's not Lee Westwood in his prime
It's not any of that man. It's not it, he's objectively worse in majors, which fuck like that sucks.
Not good.
Guys, there's six South Africans in the top 30.
That's a lot of South Africans.
That's a lot of South Africans.
A couple, Daniel Vontonda and Yaco Aylers, I know you probably think they're manipulators.
The manipulation thing is like people are like
eight steps ahead of you on that.
You are going to say in eight weeks
that this guy's manipulator is pre-crime.
Like it's just very, people are very well aware
of this stuff now.
I like that it's out in the world.
There's some dudes, I think, you know,
going back to what I said about,
and there I said going back,
talking about the guys at minus three.
There's some guys at minus two.
We talked about a hoveland, but Zaden Hought Chris Kirk, this is a great golf course for
him. Paul Casey, I think we know how that's going to turn out for him, probably a non-competitive
like top top 10 top 15. Yeah. DJ Sergio's at minus two, Snettaker minus two.
Well, all right. French, French, French, French, Esqucheska Molinarri, Cory Connors.
Very interesting that he decided to skip the Dow team event this week.
You got to fl- if you're going to make the joke, you got to flesh that out.
I just said I think he would have the best swing on the LPGA if he teed it up.
It's an ultimate con- I can't give a better compliment to that.
Can't plot.
Yes. It's possible he couldn't find a partner for that. Shout to Keith Mitchell shooting two under Paul. Oh God
The English are gonna be pissed to me and the Canadians are gonna be pissed to me. Anyone else you want to rile up T.C. Yeah
Shout out to the bullet minus one fucking bullet 69 on his birthday
Absolutely loving life. Keppka Boggit 18 for, I thought what was a very good round of golf does not, didn't feel
he got a lot out of that.
One under felt like he played a lot better, but he was in the better side of the wave.
And apparently, gonna get the better side of the draw tomorrow too.
So early late seems to be the better side of the draw.
So maybe Justine has a little bit of a point.
Totally.
I mean, he's tough, tough, tough shirt, tough finish for Pete, tough finish for Fina.
Fina doubled 18, hated seeing that.
Super unlucky to miss that last putt.
You can't do this anymore. I got flit, like he's not playing good golf anymore.
The whole point was you guys taking MC and a T2 are the same thing.
I've been riding for him lately.
And I'm not. He's not playing good golf anymore.
Maybe I'll flip it. I'll start. Maybe I not playing good golf anymore. Maybe I'll flip it.
I'll start.
Maybe I'll start writing.
So fun when you flip.
Yeah, if I start writing for him now.
I think he's gonna have a big dead bar.
I lost faith in tone right now.
Guys, right now he's not on my Ryder Cup team.
Guys, Ricky got it.
Ricky and Xander got a lot of,
Ricky's andor and Cam Smith got a lot of air time
for shooting one under today.
Might have been Cam Smith's pairing, probably,
on that one.
Yeah, I think the waves were kind of lopsided, felt like,
and that's because Rory still draws, you know,
Rory draws a lot of energy, but it's,
for some reason I still want to see what's gonna happen.
He didn't tell me. I know, I do too,
but it's getting less and less.
And he came out of the gate,
stuffing one with a wedge on one,
stuffed another one with a wedge on two.
Of course, that's when I had to send the tweet,
misses the putt, and then does nothing from there on out, shoots two over from wedge on two. Of course, that's when I had to send the tweet, misses the putt, and then does nothing
from there on out.
She shoots two over from there on out.
But, you know, I think Ricky,
Ricky probably could have putt it a little bit better.
He missed a couple, couple, you know,
kind of crappy putts there.
I think we're bearing the big story here,
Richard Blanff, best player in the world.
70, yeah.
Just a rock solid start for for uh, Mr.
David.
He might have been, you know,
napping by about 11 a.m. there.
I think he was like first guy out, wasn't he?
For those calling for Randy to apologize for Phil.
He will be on the show tomorrow and has prepared a full statement.
He's like, ready, picked one to win.
How does he do it?
He's going to go one for two with picking Phil to top 40 into PGA and picking him to win the open.
I think that comment was beautiful.
I think that thing's gonna come back around to get tonight too.
It's even more damning because other than day in Boston,
the big Aussie lad who looks like leash in the bullet
in the bullet and big shot Bob. Big shot Bob McIntyre all had a kid together.
But they're at plus 10.
He's a composite of all those guys.
Nobody else is even close.
The next the next worst guys are two, two English bloaks at plus seven.
So thanks.
Have we mentioned JC yet?
You know what I'm getting ready.
I think we're getting there with JC
where he may be on, he's just,
he may be on life support.
He's feeling, it's feeling very rory-ish.
And it's, the putting looks awful.
It's so crazy to me and I don't know what to read
into this if anything,
but it's crazy how fucking dominant JT can look at a WGC
or the players or, you know,
kind of random random PJ
Torventon. It's just, God, it just has not been there at the majors. I know we've talked
about this at Nauseen. He might be the TPC golfer.
But it sucks. Like again, we don't have the data for this. But if he has field average
putting around, feel the field average 30 puts per, he had 35 today, field average putting
around, he should 67 day. Like he's, he was leaving the field and he had like the first nine greens
or something like that.
Was his proximity any good on that?
It seemed to be like he felt, I felt like he was like super dialed
for the beginning of that round, just getting absolutely nothing out of it.
And it seemed like he wavered.
Again, it's like that front nine, you can get hyped on that front nine, right?
It's kind of an easier nine.
I don't know exactly how the number shake out,
but there's some scoreable.
There's a good run of holes there
where you can make some noise.
And you can kind of fake your way around the front
is what I'm getting at.
Back nine doesn't seem to be something
where you can really fake away.
I wish you could see, maybe somebody has done this,
but it would be hard, I would guess,
without the shot link data.
But I would be really interested to know
who are the really good links putters,
the links masters, true links masters.
Because, you know what I mean?
Like it's a different punch, a different thing.
It's different grass obviously,
but it's also like the greens are crazier
and they're slower, which is a really weird combo.
Like these guys just put on, you know,
they put on glass every week.
And this is so,
it's over on the Euro tool.
Not that, yeah, that's true.
I'm an idiot.
The scores are lower on the back down and they were the front.
But I think it's good.
Never the last.
The 14th whole plate.
It's still staying at the action under par.
The eye test.
We saw way too much of Jimmy Walker today.
Well, I think there was nobody else.
I think that was the peacock.
Yeah.
No, I don't think anybody was actually watching that.
You want to talk some coverage?
Are we ready to do that?
Let's keep going.
Disappointments, you got Lowry,
Rom, Westwood, Fitzpatrick, a plus one.
They were dog and stensen,
plus one, like...
They were just killing them on the broad test.
Absolutely. Body shots.
And that was right when they went to the cock, right?
That wasn't the cock.
And he was, he's like kind of old.
Which I don't want to, you know,
no mixed messages here, like continue to dog players.
That's totally fine.
But Stenson specifically, it's like,
well, I mean, he's hurt and he's kind of old, man.
Like, you know, he's just not gonna,
he's not gonna be the same guy.
I think they were like looking up and like,
well, shit, we have nine guys up in the course.
Exactly.
We stretched this out a little bit.
Chez plus two.
I want to see a little bit. Chez plus two.
I wanna see a little bit more out of him tomorrow. Yeah, shocking the heat.
Brandon Grace was, I thought he,
like he was a sleeper play for me.
He was four over through,
because you're defense, you listed 35 guys.
He was four over through 11 and then got it back to two over.
Anybody mentioned Cantlay yet?
We haven't scrolled that far down yet.
No, we haven't scrolled that far down yet. No, we haven't scrolled that far down yet.
The Schlong, he's currently low, low Schlong in the field.
Joe Long is also in the field.
I think he's, he's one or two shots behind him.
Tyrell Hatton plus two, Tyrell.
Not good.
Not good.
Very disappointing.
He plus two, Bob McIntyre plus two.
And Cantler plus four.
You know what's disappointing so far about St. George's?
Not a lot of triples, not a big no.
That's, you took the words right on my mouth.
That's the shocking thing about Nicholson's round.
But I think that's just kind of a byproduct of the slowness.
It's slow, believe.
Like Bryson hit a couple shots,
like a couple of the really hot ones out of that,
like waist high stuff that just hits it down slope
and fucking takes off.
And that's where you get,
like that's where you get the really gnarly.
Like when you get those bounces and it goes into some death pop bunker, like that's where you get, like that's where you get the really gnarly.
Like when you get those bounces and it goes into some death pop bunker, like that's where
you get the huff.
The hot bounces out of the high moth.
Exactly.
Exactly right.
Adam Scott plus three.
And then yeah, yeah, I mean, can't lay.
Can we talk any wrong?
Not really.
I mean, all I saw from wrong basically was him leaving that one shot in the pop bunker.
That's a lie remember. That's not a live reminder.
That was kind of the only thing I really saw.
But, yeah, it's a bummer.
I feel like it probably, this place probably, you know, after watching it for a day, maybe
neutralizes like his, one of his biggest assets.
I know he does everything well, but like, he just, he's one of those guys, kind of like
Brooks, kind of like, Rory, you know, they just, they drive it really long and really straight, but you can't quite drive it long enough and straight enough to fit
inside of some of these holes.
Like number five is a good example where you have to lay back and you're just, you're
just not going to hit enough fairways to really like, wail away on drivers.
So it feels like it kind of brings him back.
Guys, I'm worried about leash.
He had two pots per green and regulation.
That's a lot.
Yeah, that's a lot of pots. That's not regulation. That's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot of pots.
That's not good.
No, that's a lot.
I mean, maybe he hit his irons like ass and he was super far away.
Big green zone too.
Yeah.
So, I don't know, not good though, not good.
I just can't get down with Cantley, man.
It just doesn't evoke anything in me.
He was great on the podcast.
He's got a, you know, a like his swim.
It's just a matter of like, it just doesn't conjure anything.
I think he's one of those guys like,
we've said this a couple of different times, I think.
But a lot of those guys like,
you just need to see them stack up wins.
And when they're, when you're someone
and can't lay, doesn't play that much.
So, you know, you can't really blame them for not winning.
Like he wins a lot.
Isn't he literally leading the FedEx Cup also?
That's a whole thing.
I was gonna like text you you guys as a joke.
I'm rolling to your house with a gun in your face
and you need to tell me he was leading the FedEx Cup.
I'm super aggressive.
I would have gotten shot.
I would not have known and it's not, I'm gone.
That's a whole other conversation.
But, point being, I think with a lot of those guys,
you just need to see them win over and over
and over to get those feelings.
And I think when he just kind of wins, once year, you know, he hasn't really been there
in majors.
He just don't really feel much for those guys.
Like, Ram, I mean, Ram's a good example, right?
Of, I know Randy said that and we were joking about it.
But with Ram, you don't have this like great base of memories.
It's like, oh, yeah, you know, he wanted Tory Pines and the BMW putt.
Like that was cool.
Now that he fucking slammed the door at a US Open, when you see him on the board at the master's,
or you see him on the board it, it changes the lens. 100%. Yeah. And I think Cantlay doesn't have that.
More Kawa has it a little bit, but like, Hovlin doesn't really have that. I mean, I, he's pre-approved,
I think, right? Like, everybody wants to root for Hovlin really well, but we just haven't,
haven't seen it. He's got global entry.
He does, exactly.
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Saw that the peacock was behind the...
Was peacocking?
It was a true cock block situation.
It was behind the paywall when I woke up this morning.
So I got to watch young Tom Morris die at the end
of Tommy's honor, pushing the mood.
Never watched that.
Spoiler alert.
It's on the last 10 minutes, he dies. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, I don't, I put you in the mood. I never watched that. I spoiler alert. It's on the last 10 minutes, he dies.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't, I kinda knew that going in,
but I didn't know much about it other than that,
but I don't know, it's fine.
I actually, I was,
it took him a while, I think, to get in the flow
and everybody's remote and there's obviously
a lot of negatives that come with that and a lot of reasons why they're doing that.
And whatever, but I think it understandably took them a while
to get in the flow and it was pretty juiceless this morning.
And it just felt like you're watching a bit of a random
Euro Tour event.
The commentators were not super recognizable.
There was nothing really flashy about it.
Didn't really feel like you were watching a major until, really until like,
spieth started going on a run, honestly. So I switched over to the feature groups.
It was great. Had some had some cheeky broadcasters on there.
That was a ton of fun to watch and it's just fun to watch less commercials and
watch every shot of those guys. But I will say I was wrong.
It didn't seem like they hit us. The early risers crazy hard with the commercials.
Yeah.
Like in the past, they've just said,
oh, you got a burly?
Like, how was, how was sky?
It was solid.
Allegedly.
It wasn't.
You would never, no.
VPN in.
No, I did.
Did you have sky on highly, on the big TV or on the computer?
Allegedly.
I had the earphones on.
You're really big, you know.
What's the, what's the computer screen? You had it on. You're really big tea. You know. What's the bigger's?
Like a Peter screen and big TV.
You had it on his phone next to the TV.
They took a lot, it kind of took more breaks than I,
then we're, you know, kind of,
I was led to believe they would, which,
but it was fine.
I thought it, I thought it flowed pretty good.
Just lack of protracer, big issue.
You need to protracer.
You need to protracer.
The lack of wind graph.
Oh God, the whole thing is the wind. Like come on, I don't even think Big issue. You need to approach racer. The lack of wind graph.
The whole thing is the wind.
Come on, I don't even think that's an NBC thing, right?
They're not doing any of this.
You're waiting on that from the world feed or I don't even know who that is.
We got to feed the world, folks.
I guess, but gotta get some pro-trace around here.
They're hungry.
That's so important.
And the wind is literally every shot is defined by you know how you are
fighting a shot with the wind and like you need that for a viewer like a ball starting
way left going off the screen. I honestly couldn't yeah and you can kind of see where the
clothes are their clothes are flapping or whatnot but like give us a wind graphic.
I'll yeah it could be naive. Happy to be naive. We can go harder next year when we're
at St. Andrews but who knows how much of its COVID,
how much of its budget restrictions?
Like I just,
give me Devoid.
I'm gonna run Roberts.
I don't need 14 mile an hour versus eight mile an hour.
Just give me the general win direction.
So like even if it's like the prevailing projected wind
for the day, it gives you a good idea
of what's gonna happen there.
So.
Couple random things I had before we wrap.
Awesome. I carry st stop us on the broadcast,
growing up nearby.
That was cool to have her.
And the only other thing, I know we get it at the Masters and we get it at the Open, but
very underrated have everybody start on number one.
100%.
It's, you can get such a better flow for where the hard parts are what the like you know sounds lame
But like what the like journey of the round is, you know, you get us such a better feel
I have I have trouble with like us open in PGA's that yeah, like Thursday Friday like keeping track of what's going on and all that and
No matter what you got to start one of the days on 10 like golf
This is this is maybe a stuffy take golf was meant like golf courses were laid out to be played from whole one to 18.
Yes.
Yeah.
And like, it's kind of bullshit to play a major championship or UT off on both sides, I think.
I agree.
Fashion wise, anything stick out besides P shirt, which I think Lou Brown said it looked
like he removed the security tag after after there's a lot of
this. He doesn't even have a clothing sponsor. Yeah, he does. He does get that cast door. No,
they're gone. I think they left. Did they? There's no logos on there. There's no logos on there.
I thought people, I thought the foot joy shoes are dope. The the plaid ones. Can't say I did it. The tartan plaid on them, they're fantastic.
I thought Max looked great today.
Of course.
Super sharp, really clean white pullover.
I thought the, was Adam Scott with JT's group?
No, he wasn't.
Adam Scott, obviously had a very crispy sweater on.
JT had a crispy sweater on.
Flea wood did not have the horribly large sweater on, so that was a, that was a posture.
They had a sweater, just a
sweatshirt.
Yeah.
Oh, the sky has a great open mic thing that they do where they go and get the, it's like
a, it's not live.
It's a layout of the player-cadi conversation and people are all over them because they
would do the, the combo and then not show the shot.
That's tough.
But Fino was on there and they did not subtitle it.
So it was pretty, it was pretty worthless.
People are on me saying Castor dropped him.
Listen, I'm the one that potentially broke that story that Castor dropped him.
Use golf facts reached out and said Castor didn't drop him.
So she's been on a roll the last 24 hours or so.
I was telling Tron and we need to be, I don't, you know, knock on wood here.
I don't want to jinx anything. But Tron has we need to be, I don't knock on wood here, I don't wanna jinx anything,
but Tron has a heavy responsibility that he bears,
being one of the few people that, for whatever reason,
you in her head, you use golf facts,
we'll reply to every time.
It's, I was saying, I think we need to publish
a book, almost like presidential letters,
like the, you know, your guys is.
The exchanges?
Yeah, your guys is yeah your guys is you know
just discourse throughout the years I think that would your correspondence did
she reply to your to asking her to lay out no I need to get a couple of so
first I don't think it's I don't think it's just one person I think it's it's the
family the firm there but I think it's like I we got a few shardinets in
tonight yeah you know we'll get a we'll get a couple white wines deep and get it going again.
I do want to do my big thing.
Hey, you know what, I want to give a shout out,
never give a shout out to them before on anything
because their aesthetic is terrible.
I thought the tailor made bags look really cool.
The brown.
The brown, yeah, they're cool.
So I'm extending an olive branch there.
Because I got roasted one time when they did the yellow ones
that looked like the DHL trucks.
They were for the kids.
Yeah.
So that was tough.
You owed them.
Exactly.
T.C. never forgets and paying my debts.
I want to give a shout out, Rose Zhang.
In the US Girls Am.
US Junior Am.
She is absolutely just fucking people.
I mean, she's ruining people.
She's got 62 in one of the stroke play rounds.
She won four and two today over at Mari Avery.
She's also a really good player in her own right,
four and two over her,
and she's just steamrolling people.
It'll be shocked if she doesn't win it.
And then, Barbousall, of course, Brian Stewart's winning.
I'm gonna say, I honestly, I kinda wanted to,
that hit me while I was lying in the couch this week,
I was like, I wonder if I can go the whole week
without knowing what goes on with the Barbousall.
Barbousall is sweet.
No, it's not.
I got all the people from, from that scene. No, it's not. I got all the people from...
No, that's not true.
It's not true.
Northern Kentucky getting all over me
because I said,
Lexington's in Northern Kentucky,
which objectively it is.
Definitely not doing this.
Like, you don't care.
I'm really trying to...
I'm really trying to.
I'm really trying to...
I'm really trying to...
I'm really trying to...
I'm really trying to...
I'm really trying to...
I'm really trying to...
I'm really trying to... I'm really trying to... I'm really trying to... I'm really trying to... I'm really trying to... the land of Lincoln. Right. Springfield. Randy had no idea yesterday. I tried the horseshoe. On the trap draw that that springfields the capital. He thought
Chicago was the capital of Illinois. Which is disgraceful. That's not. And then the LPGA's
up in Midland. That's the definite. Yeah. I forget who was just talking about this. Might
have been J. Revel and Tallahassee. But that's the definition of like a capital city. Like,
you know, you put the capital there and then it's a bunch of like government nerds and
there's nothing else cool in the city
No offense to Springfield, but that's you know you see that in town. Has he's got Springfield you see that in a lot of a lot of capital cities
That's the that's the playbook man. Of course it's not Chicago
Anyways, listen it's the land of Lincoln now I got this guy now I got the Springfield people coming at me to what it that was a own goal
Did you did you tannigar and sisters are?
Going very very low today.
They are nine under through 16.
And the cord is completely, completely shitting the bed.
They're going much lower in all shots than they are in best ball.
Maybe the format's too easy for them.
So anyway, yeah. That's all I got. Yeah, best ball. Maybe the format's too easy for them. So, anyway, yeah.
That's all I got.
Yeah, I'm ready for the notebook is empty.
Get back to bed.
All right, so I guess last question.
Do you guys think-
How far back is too far back?
Well, how far back is too far back?
I think it's probably too early to talk about that.
My thing is-
We always do that.
Do you think-
Yeah, we gotta do that.
Do you think Oosthazen or Speed is the leader after tomorrow or do you think it's somebody else?
I think it'll probably be somebody else. Just math says that. Yeah.
These people still win. I mean, there's not, you know, there is, there are some very
nice players up there. There's not a ton of like hunters. We he use? Right. There's not a lot of, not a lot of, you know, not a ton of, of hunters up there that are
going to go crazy low wouldn't, you wouldn't think, but I'll say, I'll say Lewis leading
after tomorrow.
All right.
I like that.
I'll say Lewis well.
I think he, he just goes shoot three under again and then how far back is too far back?
I think plus two is too far back. I was gonna say I think plus one's still probably in it just because
I'm not wrong in Bryson and some dogs there on but
You know, yeah, I think plus one on the far reaches even if you're a regular player. Yeah, so good stuff guys
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